=== Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === jalcine is now known as Guest15162 === Guest15162 is now known as jackyalcine_ === jackyalcine_ is now known as Guest15162 === Guest15162 is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as jackyalcine_ === jackyalcine_ is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_jackyalcine === zz_jackyalcine is now known as zz_zz_jackyalcin === zz_zz_jackyalcin is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_zz_jackyalcin === zz_zz_jackyalcin is now known as zz_zz_zz_jackyal === zz_zz_zz_jackyal is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_zz_zz_jackyal === zz_zz_zz_jackyal is now known as zz_zz_zz_zz_jack === zz_zz_zz_zz_jack is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_zz_zz_zz_jack === zz_zz_zz_zz_jack is now known as Jacky [08:47] morning === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:53] hi yofel [09:03] yofel: morning [09:03] shadeslayer: hi [09:03] hey [09:04] hi === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [09:31] yofel: any ideas if cronjobs running in a schroot are persistent? [09:34] actually, nvm [09:45] 4.10.0 is done building for quantal in ninjas [09:50] nice === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [09:51] yofel: did we finish before suse? [09:51] no idea, packages won't be public before the 6th anywa [09:51] y [09:51] yofel: why not? [09:51] I don't particulary watch how fast the others are [09:52] phoenix_firebrd: kde 4.10.0 release is Feb. 6th [09:52] http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.10_Release_Schedule [09:52] yofel: in that case can you put the news in planet kde before suse? [09:53] we'll write the news when we're done. If that's before suse, good. If not not many will care [09:53] yofel: done means? [09:54] done as in, packages published to the official PPA's and official KDE announcement out [09:55] yofel: can it be done before suse? [09:55] probably? I have no idea when they do their release announcement [09:56] yofel: everytime i see they are the first one to break the news [09:56] well, maybe they have someone that just sits there waiting for the kde announcement to publish theirs [09:56] yofel: It will be nice to see kubuntu do that [09:57] not all of us are online all of the time [09:57] yofel: i can do that [09:57] well, we've gotten a lot faster since we started scripting the packaging already [09:57] yofel: lets get some market share' [09:58] i like to hear "Kubuntu is the distro that releases the update first" [10:01] * yofel would prever quality over speed, but we do have a few days left [10:01] anyway, we need Q/A first [10:01] yofel: i am going to update now and test [10:01] for quantal === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [10:03] yofel: do you want me to test any sepcific app? [10:03] *specific [10:09] phoenix_firebrd: not really, general Q/A is needed really [10:10] we should look up the list of bugs fixed for 4.10.0 too [10:10] but I forgot what the bugzilla query for that is [10:10] mmm [10:12] * yofel hits freenode around with a throut [10:12] * shadeslayer rejoices === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [11:08] brb need to restart [11:21] phoenix_firebrd: want to do something? [11:22] btw I'm going to go ahead and upload precise as well [11:23] shadeslayer: ya [11:24] shadeslayer: i can test quantal stuff [11:24] phoenix_firebrd: ok, so, we have daily builds of KDE Telepathy [11:24] nah, this is something new [11:24] https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds [11:24] shadeslayer: ok [11:24] launchpad allows us to pull git repos from projects.kde.org and make daily packages [11:25] https://code.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/telepathy-kde/ktp-desktop-applets [11:25] is not packaged [11:25] alot of the KDE telepathy code was moved around and this repo created [11:25] so you get to package something new :) [11:25] ok [11:25] nice [11:26] pull-lp-source ktp-desktop-applets raring will do? [11:26] have a go at it, look at the packaging branches here : https://code.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde [11:26] no [11:26] because ktp-desktop-applets is new [11:26] bzr branch? [11:26] nope [11:26] nothing [11:26] zilch [11:26] download the tar? [11:26] it's a brand new source [11:26] ok [11:26] yeah, download tar / clone git / whatever [11:26] i will make a deb [11:26] shadeslayer: thanks [11:27] np [11:27] have a go at it, put up your packaging somewhere so I can have a look [11:28] shadeslayer: my ppa? [11:28] nah just push up a bzr branch [11:28] shadeslayer: ok [11:28] with the debian folder in it [11:28] :) [11:29] use packaging hints from ktp-presence-applet [11:29] that was dropped [11:29] shadeslayer: ok [11:29] shadeslayer: is this a casual jor or a priority one? [11:29] *job [11:29] well ... not exactly priority [11:30] would be nice to have [11:30] ok [11:30] or I'll do it tomorrow [11:30] shadeslayer: i will finish tonight [11:30] before tonight [11:30] no hurries :) [11:30] ok [11:54] shadeslayer: kde for precise? feel free to if there's space [11:54] shadeslayer: where to though? [11:54] yofel: I've asked for more space [11:54] ah [11:54] in the meanwhile I'll prepare the packages [11:54] hm, I think I'll just file a question [11:54] ok, I'll switch the status page [11:54] switched [11:55] yofel: will 5 more GB's do? [11:56] yeah [11:56] shadeslayer: you'll have to copy a lot of stuff over from beta though before uploading [11:56] :( [11:56] esp. the newer pkg-kde-tools [11:58] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/220753 [12:06] what was that browser that had XREFER support? [12:07] w3 somthing [12:07] w3m [12:07] !info w3m [12:07] thx [12:07] w3m (source: w3m): WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.3-8 (quantal), package size 1120 kB, installed size 2156 kB [12:08] I wiped my server last night [12:08] so stuff is missing [12:08] shadeslayer: well done... :P [12:08] ;) [12:08] ok, now to fix the version number handling in the backport script [12:09] shadeslayer: if you're backporting from raring a few packages will have messed up changelog entries ^ [12:09] like 4 or 5 [12:09] oh, I was going to backport from quantal [12:09] isn't that how it should be? [12:09] ah, that'll be fine then [12:10] well, not really, but it won't matter currently I believe [12:10] actually, right now that's a better idea [12:10] :D [12:10] quantal only has one hook anyway that's run for precise as well [12:12] whaaa [12:13] yofel: were are them keys stored [12:13] what keys o.O? [12:13] the lp auth key [12:14] no idea, python-keyring on my server is utterly broken [12:14] heh [12:14] gives json errors [12:14] (IIRC) [12:14] ah wel [12:14] I'll do it again [12:14] lynx was still installed [12:15] and stupid blinky cursor [12:15] can't get rid of it [12:15] hit insert? :P [12:16] btw, anyone know how to fix ruby crap when I accidentally did "sudo gems ...." which apparently breaks things... [12:16] not supposed to use sudo with gems... [12:18] mmm [12:18] yofel: can I unlock the keyring for a longer duration of time [12:19] you're asking the wrong guy [12:19] heh [12:19] *blink* [12:20] yofel: [12:20] http://paste.kde.org/662474/ [12:21] ist that the whole trace? [12:21] http://paste.kde.org/662480/ [12:22] jussi: insert doesn't remove blinky cursor :( [12:22] the only thing I could think of is that %7E isn't correctly replaced [12:22] but that shouldn't usually happen... [12:23] hmm [12:23] lemme check [12:23] just as I suspected [12:23] no dpkg-source :P [12:23] lol [12:23] what was it, apt-get install packaging-dev ? [12:23] I just install ubuntu-dev-tools [12:24] we haz more space [12:24] yofel: care to copy over binaries [12:24] can do [12:25] now let's see what we need... [12:39] need to rebuild qextserialport because launchpad is being stupid, but otherwise we should be ready I think: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=200 [12:41] W: kalgebra source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 25) [12:44] shadeslayer: hard to say what to do with a file that has no copyright... [12:44] lol [12:45] not sure why that makes it BSD then though, would't that be public domain? [12:45] *wouldn't [12:51] kde-runtime is kaput [12:51] how so? [12:52] I can't copy from konsole :( [12:52] because of blinking === Jacky is now known as Jacky_ [12:56] hm, know of any small keyring manager like kwallemanager? [13:00] yofel: can you double check if https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+files/declarative-plasmoids_4.10-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc can me made arch all [13:00] I don't see anything that would need arch any [13:13] shadeslayer: 'make' does nothing, so I guess it can [13:13] cool [13:15] Riddell: I've uploaded declarative-plasmoids to the kubuntu active ppa [13:15] needs reviewing and uploading [13:50] Hello [13:59] yofel: anything interesting in yesterdays sessions> [14:05] shadeslayer: I didn't really get to read anything yersterday [14:05] heh [14:05] I just browsed over the ubuntu image creation bits [14:05] unfortunately that just touches on about 20-30% of how it's done [14:05] HI all [14:06] Hello [14:06] hi folks [14:06] no talk about seeds, no talk about germinate, nothing about live-build config options :( [14:07] how boring [14:08] shadeslayer: is ktp-common-internals daily build latest available? [14:08] :D [14:08] phoenix_firebrd: yes [14:08] see the PPA [14:08] shadeslayer: how can i use that with the pbuilder? [14:08] https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds [14:08] phoenix_firebrd: did you install the ninja hooks? [14:08] shadeslayer: no [14:08] well ... install them :P [14:09] phoenix_firebrd: you did [14:09] shadeslayer: can you guide me? [14:09] or at least I told you to [14:09] yofel: you did? [14:09] the ~/.pbuilder-hooks stuff [14:09] yofel: ^ can you help him? I have like a bazillion things going on :P [14:09] yofel: let me check [14:09] yofel, help me too please:D [14:09] where's that stupid wiki page again... [14:11] yofel: i am inside the .pbuilder-hooks dir and i can see some files there [14:12] phoenix_firebrd, you're better than me, I don't even have that dir [14:12] smartboyhw: yofel helped me [14:13] is this some kind of competition ? [14:13] smartboyhw: truely i forgot how i got that folder [14:13] BluesKaj, no. [14:14] smartboyhw: i saw that you have built a package for the upcoming release, congrats [14:14] ok, now I have a minute... [14:14] yofel: help [14:14] phoenix_firebrd: why would you use that ppa in pbuilder? [14:14] yofel: ktp-desktop-applets needs git ktp-common-internals [14:14] phoenix_firebrd, thanks:D [14:15] which is only available from that ppa [14:15] yofel: need a updated version of ktp-common-internals [14:15] shadeslayer, phoenix_firebrd: in *that* case, I just login with --save-after-login and edit the sources.list inside [14:15] heh [14:15] yofel: I find it easier to just do everything after it fails and then copy over the debian folder [14:16] well, works too, I don't like fiddling with the build too much [14:16] yofel: so you want me to add the daily build repo to the pbuilder with the save after login option? [14:16] * shadeslayer is still waiting for debsign [14:17] smartboyhw: for the hooks: "bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks" [14:17] smartboyhw: and add HOOKDIR="$HOME/.pbuilder-hooks" to your .pbuilderrc [14:17] they make life a bit easier [14:17] disable the apt hooks if you're low on bandwidth [14:18] (with chmod -x) [14:18] phoenix_firebrd: well, that's how I do it [14:18] yofel: do i have to create a base image for a new project? === ben__ is now known as vassie [14:19] phoenix_firebrd: you could probably add a hook script that installs software-properties-common and runs add-apt-repository too [14:19] but I just manage that by hand [14:19] yofel: i will go by your way [14:20] phoenix_firebrd: well, if you want to keep them apart yes, in which case you'll have to change the naming of the image [14:20] not sure how to do that with pbuilder-dist [14:24] phoenix_firebrd: my pbuilderrc again: http://paste.kde.org/662588/ - the BASETGZ handling is the relevant part. My build command later looks like "sudo -E dist=r pro=ninja pbuilder build ..." [14:25] smartboyhw: ^ that rc is a bit overkill complex, but maybe you'll find something useful === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:25] Darkwing: I'm going to try send your tshirt, sorry it takes so long [14:25] * Quintasan is dumb and forgetful [14:25] yofel, oh ok [14:26] yofel: what is this pro=ninja? [14:27] phoenix_firebrd: I guess it's shot for profile [14:27] Quintasan: ok [14:27] * rgreening pokes Quintasan [14:27] phoenix_firebrd: Note people round here usually have two pbuilders for each release [14:27] rgreening: Hi [14:27] sup dude [14:27] Quintasan: oh [14:28] yeah, the second one is called a PPA xD [14:28] Quintasan: so when we are creating we can give a profile name? [14:28] phoenix_firebrd: We usually have one clean pbuilder and one with ninjas ppa enabled so you can testbuild latest kde there without going through the hassle of logging in pbuilder, making changes, building and reverting them again. [14:29] phoenix_firebrd: you can though it's usually not needed [14:29] since with this pbuilderrc you can invoke stuff like [14:29] Quintasan: how can i add a ppa to my current pbuilder [14:29] sudo -E DIST=raring ARCH=i386 pbuilder create and you will get a basetgz file called raring-i386.tgz [14:29] phoenix_firebrd: http://paste.kde.org/662588/ line 68 handles that, if I say "dist=r pro=ninja" it would look for a raring-ninja-amd64-base.tgz and use that [14:30] yofel: ok i will try that' [14:30] phoenix_firebrd: log into the pbuilder, add the ppa to sources.list and save the changes [14:30] phoenix_firebrd: one would do it via pbuilder login --save-after-login [14:30] phoenix_firebrd: that is what /var/cache/pbuilder/ looks like here ^^ http://paste.kde.org/662612 [14:31] rgreening: Nothing much, started uni and now I have some free time to I'm trying to sort out overdue things on my todo [14:31] like sending Darkwing his tshirt [14:31] Quintasan: cool. I've been afk for quite a while. work took over my life there for a while [14:32] looking to get back to packaging :) [14:32] yofel: can i clone my current profile? [14:32] hah, lot's of things to do this cycle [14:32] yofel: pbuilder's [14:32] phoenix_firebrd: you can just copy the tgz file I believe [14:32] phoenix_firebrd: define clone, if you mean make a copy of the base image sure, just use cp [14:33] Quintasan: yofel ok [14:33] probably faster than making a competely new one [14:33] actually that'll be definitely much faster [14:33] yofel: You did tell him what those tgzs actually are? [14:33] 4.10 going up for precise [14:33] Quintasan: not really, one of the bazillion things I forgot [14:33] all done [14:34] * shadeslayer braces for 142 emails [14:34] phoenix_firebrd: See, those tgz files are actually base systems tar gzipped (think the whole directory structure under /) [14:34] shadeslayer: I can sign you up to a few spam lists if you want :P :P [14:35] erm, no thx [14:35] shadeslayer, yeah:D [14:35] I'm subscribed to way too many email lists [14:35] jussi: I kind of think you would kill shadeslayer's connection [14:35] haha [14:35] Quintasan: hah, nope, I have a 2 Mbps line now [14:35] Quintasan: it's not that bad these days [14:35] phoenix_firebrd: pbuilder just unpacks those, chroots into them, copies the files to build there and starts the whole building procedure then [14:35] so a sane amount of bandwidth [14:35] Quintasan: thats right [14:36] Quintasan: but there should be a proper way to do these things right? [14:36] phoenix_firebrd: to do what? [14:36] Quintasan: using a ppa inside pbuilder [14:36] yeah [14:37] Quintasan: like pbuilder clone base base-ninja [14:37] phoenix_firebrd: usually you want to have at least one clean (ie. NO changes) pbuilder for each release [14:37] phoenix_firebrd: there an OTHERMIRROR setting for that [14:37] oh, for that [14:37] phoenix_firebrd: Not really, just copy the tgz [14:37] rename it appropriately and you're done [14:37] not really, you just run pbuilder create a few times. Copying the tar is faster [14:37] Quintasan: done copying and renaming [14:38] say I have precise.tgz and I want to have another pbuilder for ninja stuff so I copy it over to precise-ninja.tgz [14:38] phoenix_firebrd: By ninja we mean the stuff involved with packaging newest KDE releases [14:38] Quintasan: ok [14:41] Anyone will be online on 20th Feb, 12:00 UTC? [14:43] smartboyhw: Presumably I will. [14:43] smartboyhw: LOOONG way to 20th :P [14:43] lol [14:43] Quintasan: how go the exams [14:44] I bombed logic but I have second try at it [14:44] applying for Ubuntu membership at that time... [14:44] shadeslayer: Physics exam is on 4th but I get C for just coming there xD [14:44] heh [14:46] maliit is done faster thanks to Laney [14:46] He will sync it when it gets accepted in Debian and we need testers [14:47] smartboyhw: not that I worked with you but if you send any examples of your work my way I can say a good word or two there :P [14:47] Quintasan, eh? I got 8 testimonials at my wiki already [14:47] And it is very difficult to SHOW my work [14:47] smartboyhw: You're good to go then :P [14:47] I mainly do Quality Assurance:P [14:48] Wait. [14:48] ? [14:48] * Quintasan grabs smartboyhw for Kubuntu [14:48] lol [14:48] I don't think you are going anywhere my friend [14:48] :P [14:48] !? [14:48] QA GET! [14:49] Quintasan, you mean sudo apt-get install python-autopilot ??? (LOL) [14:49] kajongg 4.10.0 failed in precise [14:49] implying I know how to use and implying I have time to learn it [14:50] Dependency problems:P [14:57] smartboyhw: the stuff on http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.0_precise.html will mostly auto-resolve itself when the packages get auto-retried [14:57] yofel, yeah I know:D [14:57] oh [14:57] pykde [14:57] not again [14:58] yofel, where? [14:58] * yofel wonders if he forgot something [14:58] smartboyhw: kajongg [14:58] oh [14:58] I forgot soprano -.- [14:58] brrr [14:58] -.- [14:59] copied [14:59] yofel, kate failed really because of python-kde4 I think [15:00] they're failing because pykde isn't installable with old soprano [15:00] they'll need manual retries once soprano is published [15:00] oK [15:02] phoenix_firebrd, smartboyhw: did anyone point you guys to the automation stuff yet? [15:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation [15:03] that's the actual KDE SC packaging scripting [15:03] yofel, nobody:P [15:03] yofel, oh wow!:D [15:03] * smartboyhw immediately pulls it [15:03] yofel: no [15:03] that status page is generated by kubuntu-ppa-build-status [15:05] Yes sir [15:05] hm, how do I extract "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1" from "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar" using bash [15:06] or rather "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1" from "package (4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar) release; urgency=low" [15:07] ${line##*(} will give "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar) release; urgency=low", but then I'm stuck [15:11] yofel, soprano should be successfully built [15:11] ah yeah, it's published [15:11] (I copyied the binaries from the beta ppa) [15:12] LOL [15:12] *copied [15:13] shadeslayer: something went wrong: kalzium: Dependency wait: libboost-python1.49-dev [15:13] mmm [15:14] we do have -e 's/libboost-python1.49-dev/libboost-python1.48-dev/g' \ [15:14] ah shoot [15:14] I did not have the latest checkout of bzr [15:14] :| [15:14] ... [15:15] we should add it to the script [15:15] bzr pull before doing anything [15:15] yeah [15:15] want to fix it manually or regenerate with ppa2? [15:16] just regenerate with ppa2 :P [15:16] latter is probably easier depending on how much is missing [15:16] yeah [15:17] hm, I don't see an option to specify what number should be appended to ~ppa [15:17] well, not supported >.> [15:17] heh [15:17] yofel: although [15:18] we could be clever [15:18] and use -V 12.04.1 [15:18] :P [15:18] since 12.04.1 is approaching [15:18] oh right, you didn't use that [15:18] yeah [15:18] huzzah [15:18] shadeslayer: er... it's 12.04.2 that's approaching btw [15:18] pbuilder warns about untrusted packages and displays option, but exits the build session [15:18] phoenix_firebrd: ah wait [15:18] oh ...okay [15:19] phoenix_firebrd: ALLOWUNTRUSTED=yes [15:19] i have added the keys [15:19] if you have the keys that's weird [15:19] in pbuilderrc? [15:19] yep [15:19] ok [15:27]