[00:00] <Unit193> / <-- Here you go.
[00:01] <BarkingFish> lol. Thanks :)
[00:08] <em> whats the latest slickest kubuntu?
[00:08] <em> also does Kubuntu still have any concept of LTS or no?
[00:09] <BarkingFish> em, yes we do have a concept of LTS
[00:09] <BarkingFish> The latest released version of Kubuntu is 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) - our latest LTS is 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[00:10] <LINKSWORD2> BarkingFish: I have no running mouse.
[00:10] <BarkingFish> Offhand, I can't remember whether an LTS is 2 or 3 years support
[00:10] <BarkingFish> LINKSWORD2, Has it packed up working, or you mean you don't have one connected?
[00:11] <LINKSWORD2> Laptop with touchpad. It worked before, and now doesn't.
[00:12] <BarkingFish> Have you updated anything recently, LINKSWORD2?
[00:12] <OerHeks> LINKSWORD2, look for the FN key for ext mouse/trackpad selection
[00:12] <LINKSWORD2> OerHeks: ???
[00:12] <OerHeks> printed in the same colour as the FN key
[00:12] <LINKSWORD2> There isn't one.
[00:17] <LINKSWORD2> So, can I get help getting my mouse capabilities running?
[00:17] <OerHeks> usb mouse?
[00:17] <LINKSWORD2> OerHeks: It's a laptop with a touchpad. ON the system.
[00:18] <OerHeks> oh, with 'mouse' i was thinking of an external mouse
[00:19] <LINKSWORD2> -_-
[00:20] <LINKSWORD2> It's really making it difficult to do things.
[00:20] <OerHeks> neverless the FN key could switch mouse + trackpad, mouse or trackpad
[00:21] <LINKSWORD2> The laptop has a touchpad, and the FN key has never done anything to affect it before...
[00:23] <OerHeks> with laptop details i can try to look for simular issues
[00:23] <LINKSWORD2> Dell Studio 1555
[00:23] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[00:24] <BarkingFish> I can't really help with laptops, I don't own one and wouldn't know where to start, so I'll leave you with OerHeks :)
[01:33] <em> how can i see what version of kubuntu im running?
[01:44] <em> h snele
[01:45] <em> w 3
[01:45] <Unit193> em: lsb_release -a
[01:46] <rapidsp> em: apt-get install lsb-release :)
[01:47] <em> thanks
[01:48] <em> apparently im using precise
[01:48] <em> is there any reason i should be using 12.10 instead of 12.04?
[01:50] <rapidsp> em: all works right?
[01:57] <em> rapidsp: yeah things are working
[01:57] <em> rapidsp: well i do have one weird thing
[01:58] <em> for some reason when i do apt-get updates it says a key is invalid
[01:58] <em> i consistently have to have it install stuff that it can't authenticate
[01:59] <nafg_> Is there a program that repeats whatever you say into the microphone?
[01:59] <nafg_> Like a parrot
[01:59] <em> audacity would probably do that.
[02:00] <rapidsp> em: you can update keys
[02:02] <rapidsp> but i like be up to date :)
[02:10] <em> rapidsp: how do you update keys?
[02:17] <em> rapidsp: is 12.10 pretty stable?
[02:17] <pavpaw> есть тут кто по русски понимающий?
[02:17] <pavpaw> or not?
[02:17] <Unit193> !ru | pavpaw
[02:20] <p4r0xysm1z3r> hey guys
[02:20] <p4r0xysm1z3r> newbie of linux OS can someone help me with wireless?
[02:21] <p4r0xysm1z3r> i need to get wired just to connect to internet
[02:25] <em> is there a kubuntu alt cd?
[02:40] <james147> em: not anymore as far as I know
[02:50] <em> james147: hmmm
[02:50] <em> james147: then i wonder how i will set up Full Disk Encryption on Kubuntu
[02:50] <em> i used to use the alt CDs to do that
[02:53] <james147> em: Do you really need full disk encryption? If someone steals your hard drive (most likely in a laptop) they are more likely just looking for a quick sell rather then your data. So home directory encryption if probably enough.
[02:55] <james147> em: Looks like ubuntu can do it: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/11/privacy-ubuntu-1210-full-disk-encryption  cant find anything about kubuntu though :P you can always install kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu though.
[02:55] <em> Yeah i need full disk encryption
[02:56] <em> it just makes me feel better because then I dont worry about my passwords and stuff on websites
[02:56] <em> i am more freewheeling when it comes to stuff like 'remember my password'
[03:07] <james147> em: just encrypting your home directory should be enough for that, the kubuntu installer can do that with ease. I also recomend you look at lastpass, great tool for storing passwords (keeps them encrypted via a master password and takes security very seriously).
[03:32] <allen_> anyone know if update manager will take care of the new xf86-video-ati 7.1.0 graphics driver, or do I have to install it manually
[03:33] <kayvee> eversince i installed the linux kernel updates, i am seeing this kernel panic error and the system does not boot. can someone please help?
[03:44] <kayvee> hello again! i need some help with a kernel panic error.
[03:48] <allen_> post it in the ubuntu forums, i don't think anyone hear knows. sorry
[03:49] <allen_> *here
[04:43]  * calwig hugs kubuntu
[04:44] <calwig> no crashes, no faults, no gpfs, no bluescreens of death, no fat, no sodium, no salt, no uric acid, no excess junk software. Kubuntu just works
[04:44] <calwig> THANK YOU
[04:44] <calwig> :)
[04:44] <FloodBotK1> calwig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44]  * calwig kisses FloodBotK1 
[05:57] <nafg_> Is there any way to make Konsole turn file paths into links that open them in an editor?
[05:58] <nafg_> Right now I'm piping with
[05:58] <nafg_> sed -u 's_/home/naftoli_cgi:///st.cgi?/home/naftoli_'
[05:58] <nafg_> And I have  a cgi Kioslave that opens it
[05:58] <nafg_> but it always focuses on the browser
[06:12] <Senjai> Bought a flash drive
[06:12] <Senjai> installing dat Kubuntu
[06:13] <Senjai> Any residence experts that have any reccomended reading material? Mostly on bash and the kernel.
[06:22] <calwig> Senjai, I must warn you, Kubuntu is awesome
[06:22] <Senjai> lol
[06:22] <Senjai> Yeah
[06:22] <Senjai> I just want to dive into it
[06:24] <calwig> 12.04 is amazing
[06:34] <Senjai> any reccomended reading calwig
[06:44] <calwig> Senjai, arent we all starving for reading hehe
[06:44] <calwig> wait around someone may post something
[07:40] <noaXess> morning all
[07:41] <noaXess> hey Mamarok ;)
[07:41] <noaXess> bbs.. reboot.. :)
[07:44] <Guest53702> Whoop
[07:45] <Senjai> Whoop
[07:45] <Senjai> Officially set up on Kubuntu
[07:45]  * Senjai cheers
[07:54] <calwig> how does someone check the hdd manuf thru terminal?
[07:57] <Enkidu_ak> calwig, hdparam -I /dev/<drive>
[07:58] <Enkidu_ak> Er.. hdparm
[08:30] <calwig> Enkidu_ak, wha, man how could i forget
[08:30] <calwig> :)
[08:35] <Enkidu_ak> Do any of you know what might cause 100+ instances of ksnapshot to open without any keyboard input?
[08:36] <Enkidu_ak> I thought that I had some short in my keyboard, but that is not the case.
[08:36] <shadeslayer> nope, but you could run a script to kill them all
[08:37] <calwig> Ctrl Alt F4, then back to Ctrl Alt F7 try that
[08:37] <Enkidu_ak> Killing them all was easy, I'm more concerned with why it happened.
[08:37] <Enkidu_ak> This is the third time this has happened. It doesn't happen often, but I can't figure out what triggers it.
[08:38] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[08:38] <shadeslayer> are you running 4.10?
[08:38] <shadeslayer> maybe some key gets stuck?
[08:38] <Enkidu_ak> For now I've just set ksnapshot to 600
[08:39] <shadeslayer> to 600?
[08:39] <Enkidu_ak> 4.8.5, whatever is in the repo
[08:39] <Enkidu_ak> Yes, read-only by the owner.
[08:39] <shadeslayer> ah
[08:40] <shadeslayer> 4.8.5? O_O
[08:40] <shadeslayer> oh, LTS?
[08:40] <Enkidu_ak> Yes
[08:45] <Enkidu_ak> Hmm... There is a closed bug regarding this ksnapshot behavior. Apparently it's a "feature"...
[08:52] <sbivol> Enkidu_ak: which bug is it?
[08:54] <Enkidu_ak> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125982 is the only reference that I can find. It's from 2006, though.
[08:55] <Enkidu_ak> Thank you, ubottu. You understand me in a way that no other bot could...
[09:01] <sbivol> HO-LEE-SCHITT. I-ve just held PrintScreen pressed for 1.5 seconds and the bloody KSnapshot opened 40 instances!
[09:05] <shadeslayer> hah
[09:05] <shadeslayer> "The software works too well"
[09:06] <sbivol> shadeslayer: unbelievably (<- literally) well, I'd say.
[09:07] <shadeslayer> :D
[09:07] <shadeslayer> anyway, off to lunch
[09:07] <shadeslayer> bbl
[09:11] <sbivol> I have a hard time imagining a workflow that would require more than one instance of KSnapshot. there are tons of desktop recorders out there; but even if there weren't, that wouldn't pe a reason to start KSnapshot with 15 instances/sec.
[09:12]  * sbivol is frustrated about this "not a bug in KSnapshot" thing
[09:15] <invariant> sbivol, all desktop recorders for Linux suck.
[09:16] <Enkidu_ak> sbivol, Heh, I didn't even want it to start once
[09:16] <invariant> sbivol, I don't know why, but somehow every single person who has released such a tool made it not work.
[09:16] <invariant> Quite an accomplishment for a sequence of 10 people to all fail so miserably.
[09:16] <Enkidu_ak> sbivol, I had 100+ sessions and I never touched printscreen. They continued to open as I tried to close them manually. I finally had to pkill the lot of them
[09:17] <sbivol> invariant: really? 'cause I record often, and had no problems. ever.
[09:17] <invariant> sbivol, what do you use?
[09:17] <sbivol> anyway, that's not a reason to *record* with KSnapshot
[09:17] <invariant> sbivol, what do you use?
[09:18] <sbivol> invariant: ffmpeg. I'll give you the command in 3 minutes
[09:18] <invariant> sbivol, I also have an ffmpeg command, but I wouldn't count it as working. Does it record audio too?
[09:18] <invariant> sbivol, it's likely that you have a better command.
[09:18] <sbivol> invariant: yes, it records sound
[09:25] <mokush> does anybody use kate for web development?
[09:25] <mokush> is there some way to highlight the opening and end tags (for html), or the opening and closing brackets for (css/js)?
[09:25] <invariant> sbivol, what about the ffmpeg command?
[09:26] <lordievader> mokush: Vim is a commandline text editor that can do this. Not sure if Kate can do the same.
[09:27] <sbivol> invariant: sorry it takes longer, I'm getting my files from the backup....
[09:31] <sbivol> invariant: ffmpeg -y -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -f x11grab -r 30 -s `xdpyinfo | grep 'dimensions:'| awk '{print $2}'` -i :0.0 \
[09:31] <sbivol> 	-vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast -threads 0 captură_`date +%H-%M`.mkv
[09:33] <invariant> sbivol, Unrecognized option 'preset'
[09:34] <invariant> sbivol, /usr/share/avconv/libx264-lossless_ultrafast.avpreset: Invalid option or argument: 'preset=ultrafast', parsed as 'preset' = 'ultrafast'
[09:34] <sbivol> invariant: are you using THE ffmpeg or the „deprecated” ffmpeg?
[09:35] <sbivol> I'll adapt it for avconv today
[09:36] <invariant> sbivol, Failed to set value 'lossless_ultrafast' for option 'vpre'
[09:36] <invariant> sbivol, I now switched to avconv.
[09:36] <invariant> sbivol, but I still get the above.
[09:37] <invariant> sbivol, it's called ultrafast these days
[09:37] <sbivol> invariant: as I sait, I'll adapt it for avconv
[09:37] <invariant> sbivol, oh, great.
[09:38] <invariant> sbivol, I thought you meant for yourself, not for me too :)
[09:38] <sbivol> invariant: I'll post the updated command today. please stand by :)
[09:40] <hateball> I find recordmydesktop works rather well, not sure what problems one might have with it
[09:58] <Jacky> mokush: that'd require a nifty plugin
[09:58] <Jacky> should push it on KDE brainstorm
[09:58] <mokush> Jacky: well, kdevelop has this functionality already
[09:58] <mokush> why didn't they implement it directly in kpart?
[09:58] <Jacky> good question
[10:29] <bacon> identify strips
[10:29] <bacon> wow man
[10:29] <bacon> i got bacons stips man
[10:29] <bacon> whos high man?
[10:29] <bacon> want some bacon man?
[10:29] <bacon> i got tons of it man...
[10:30] <bacon> im strippin for bacon strips
[10:30] <bacon> LMAO
[10:32] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[10:48] <Jacky> i do like bacon
[11:06] <mkuzu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596278/
[11:08] <lordievader> mkuzu: I think this question is better suited for #ubuntu-server.
[11:08] <mkuzu> thank you
[11:22] <alobar_> Hi, im trying to compile a kernel module agains usermode linux architecture. in my Makefile i have to include additional CFLAGS but when i execute 'make ARCH=um' my cflags are overwritten. How can i fix this? thanks
[11:23] <alobar_> according to usermode linux doc, this is suggested CFLAGS=`cd uml-tree ; make script 'SCRIPT=@echo $(CFLAGS)' ARCH=um`, but kernel makefile does not have script target
[11:54] <yossarianuk> how you get apache2 debug packages in ubuntu
[11:54] <yossarianuk> apache2-dbg doesn't exist
[11:55] <Peace-> yossarianuk: apt-cache search  apache | grep debutg
[11:56] <Peace-> yossarianuk: apt-cache search  apache | grep debug
[11:57] <yossarianuk> Peace: thanks but on Ubuntu 8.04 I just see
[11:57] <yossarianuk> libapache-db-perl  + libserf-0-0-dbg + alpine-dbg
[11:59] <Peace-> yossarianuk: i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596406
[12:00] <yossarianuk> Peace: is that on 8.04 ?
[12:00] <Peace-> yossarianuk: 13.04 :D
[14:05] <BluesKaj> HI all
[14:07] <ik__> hi
[14:20] <funweek73> Hey
[14:22] <funweek73> Hi guys
[14:47] <Guest96540> guys, what do I do when kwin crashes and kde won't accept keyboard input
[14:55] <FrobtheBuilder> so guys, what do I do if kwin crashes, and KDE stops accepting keyboard input?
[14:55] <FrobtheBuilder> how can I restart it?
[14:56] <FrobtheBuilder> can anybody possible tell me the answer to this question?
[14:59] <Torch> i was trying to answer the guest, the guest was gone. trying to answer the nick, the nick is gone.
[14:59]  * Torch sighs.
[15:41] <PrincessLuna> Has anyone tried using Kubuntu with a touchscreen on a Windows 8 ultrabook like the Thinkpad twist, Zenbook touch, Vivobook etc?
[16:39] <hundinderpfanne> hiho
[16:39]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[16:41] <gdf> #bluserver
[16:47] <dragonious> hey guys im trying to open a file in perl to edit my squirrelmail config but I cant seem to get the file to open can anyone help me?
[16:48] <PrincessLuna> dragonious: Doesn't Kate open it?
[16:49] <PrincessLuna> dragonious: "kate /home/path/perl.perl"
[16:49] <genii-around> If squirrelmail is using the file, it's conceivabl locked
[16:50] <PrincessLuna> Anyone using a Windows 8 touch screen Win8 ultrabook with Kubuntu?
[16:51] <dragonious> PrincessLuna: Thank you for your response. I honestly didnt try to open with kate I assumed it was ment to be openned with perl
[16:52] <dragonious> sorry I am very new to linux in general, but I learning at a pretty good pace;)
[16:53] <PrincessLuna> np
[16:54] <dragonious> PrincessLuna: and I hate this keyboard :)
[16:59] <dragonious> ok now im confused, Im using the squirrelmail walkthrough from squirrelmail.org and it tells me to "run the squirrelmail configuration utility" but this is a code based text doc ??
[16:59] <dragonious> do I need to open it in terminal?
[17:18] <Guest1317> hi
[17:19] <Guest1317> i want to design my house
[17:19] <Guest1317> pleas help me?
[17:20] <bazhang> !info librecad | Guest1317
[17:21] <Guest1317> hi
[17:22] <Guest1317> i want to design my house
[17:24] <Guest1317> hi
[17:25] <bazhang> Guest1317, this is Kubuntu support
[17:44] <Guest1317> hi
[18:19] <nik9000> hello #kubuntu - I'm installing now.  This'll be my first KDE experience.  I've had so many people tell me to try it that it is finally time.
[18:19] <genii-around> nik9000: Hopefully you find it an enjoyable desktop!
[18:20] <invariant> nik9000, disable all the semantic desktop features when you are done.
[18:20] <genii-around> Hehe
[18:20] <invariant> nik9000, they are misconceived features and will only work for the simplest of setups.
[18:21] <invariant> nik9000, otherwise, KDE is a good choice.
[18:21] <invariant> genii-around, I am not joking.
[18:21] <genii-around> invariant: I find akonadi frustrating also, that is why I have it disabled
[18:21] <invariant> The only reason the semantic desktop code is in KDE is because some company just wants to test their code.
[18:22] <invariant> I can't think of any other reason.
[18:22] <invariant> It's certainly not to provide a good user experience to people, because otherwise the proper solution would be implemented.
[18:23] <nik9000> I just read the from page for nepomuk and I'm really not sure what it said.
[18:23] <invariant> nik9000, just disable it or endure lots of pain.
[18:47] <Torch> nepomuk's not all that bad. strigi is problematic in cases.
[19:22] <zoom> good evening
[19:23] <zoom> can anyone tell me how i can make tpm_tis play nice?
[19:24] <zoom> im still having trouble with suspending and dmesg says "ton_tis ßß.0a: tpm_transmit: tpm_send: errir -62
[19:24] <zoom> which supposedly is a timeout
[19:28] <Guest36207> ciao
[19:29] <Guest36207> chi puo darmi una mano
[19:29] <Guest36207> devo risolvere un problemino con kubuntu
[19:29] <genii-around> zoom: Try loading it with itpm=1
[19:29] <genii-around> !it | Guest36207
[19:30] <Guest36207> sorry
[19:31] <Guest36207> my problem with kubuntu is: THE VIDEO IN THE SITE VITV.IT
[19:46] <zoom> 'echo "options tpm_tis itpm=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/tpm-tis.conf; rmmod tpm_tis; modprobe tpm_tis itpm=1' and it still wakes up instalty, with the same error from dmesg
[19:46] <zoom> instantly*
[19:56] <zoom> just removing tpm_tis lets me suspend, but if i modprobe it again (with ot without itpm) it fails
[20:07] <phillw> hi guys, a quick ask from a lubuntu user who is looking to install a kde komponent ;)
[20:07] <phillw>  I just opened Blogilo and it says "KWallet" and under it, it says ".. KWallet allows you to store your passwords and other personal information on disk in an encryption file..". This may sound like a dumb question, but is that safe?
[20:08] <phillw> I'm assuming SHA coding?
[20:23] <zoom> have a nice day everyone
[20:23] <zoom> bye
[20:31] <jacksy> hi there
[20:32] <LordWuggi> hi
[20:32] <jacksy> I need some information about using Kubuntu with an Intel Atom
[20:33] <genii-around> jacksy: I'm running it fine on my Acer D260 which has an Atom 450
[20:34]  * riccardone 
[20:37] <jacksy> I have a problem with changing the Desktop Page in KDE4
[20:38] <jacksy> it always crashes by klicking on the change button
[20:43] <genii-around> jacksy: Was it always doing this since it was installed?
[20:46] <jacksy> yes always, also on the live USB
[20:53] <jacksy> i'll try to reinstall it
[20:54] <jacksy> i think theres something wrong with my iso file
[21:04] <mandoguit> jacksy:   might want to check the md5 sum for the iso first before reinstalling.....that way you will know for sure whether the iso is valid or not
[21:05] <jacksy> ive downloaded already a new iso from official Kubuntu page
[21:11] <faust_> Привет
[21:12] <faust_> Hi All!!!
[21:57] <nyquist333> join #grub
[22:42] <swarfega> hmm libxkbcommon0 wants to remove a whole bunch of packages
[22:47] <disharmonic> Hi guys
[22:47] <disharmonic> What would be the preferred meta-package for a laptop, kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-netbook?
[22:52] <contrast> disharmonic: kubuntu-desktop
[22:53] <disharmonic> contrast and then i should just manually disable strigi?
[22:56] <contrast> disharmonic: You might want to for now. In about a week though, you'll want to upgrade to KDE 4.10, and it sports vastly improved desktop search.
[22:57] <contrast> disharmonic: In case you're not already using the official Kubuntu PPAs: for i in ppa backports; do sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:kubuntu-ppa/$i; done
[23:04] <disharmonic> contrast, i'm not using the official ppa atm.  thanks for the tip
[23:06] <contrast> disharmonic: No problem
[23:18] <giannhs694> ?
[23:18] <giannhs694> hi?