=== ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [15:20] yo, mpt, i hear you need an icon: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/update-manager.png [15:30] Hey snwh :-) [15:30] snwh, that looks like Reda Lazri's. Have you changed it at all? [15:31] Oh, the logo is white rather than yellow [15:38] and the stripe thicknesses are reversed [15:42] mpt, his was a reboot of my original: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/update-manager300.png [15:42] :) [15:42] and i was looking for a new metaphor [15:42] I see [15:42] and like the 'loading' thing [15:42] (took place on G+) [15:43] more or less i wanted your thoughts on that metaphor [15:43] It's kinda like a torrent, with segments downloading [15:44] i though of making it into little blocks assembling into the ubuntu logo [15:44] more package-ish [15:44] snwh, Escher-style? [15:44] M.C ? [15:44] i was thinking more Tetris [15:45] www.google.com/search?q=escher+metamorphosis&tbm=isch [15:45] one of my favourite artists [15:45] Might be a bit fiddly for icon size. :-) [15:45] Yeah, mine too [15:46] I have a huge poster of relavity [15:46] relativity* [15:46] [15:48] * snwh can't find a google image of what he has in mind [16:19] mpt, something like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/update-manager.png [16:20] with perhaps 'bad' squares falling from the bottom === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [16:34] snwh, eep, Matrix [16:36] snwh, actually, it reminds me even more of Space Invaders :-) [16:37] mpt, I was going for the video game look :) [16:38] snwh, I'll be reviewing the plausible proposals with Matthieu James on Monday or so [16:40] mpt cool [16:40] i added the 'bad' squares: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/update-manager.png [16:41] rather 'old' [16:48] mpt, apologies for not going the ML route, but bugging you here would get more immediate feedback :) [17:02] {"error": "Service Unavailable"} [17:02] ah, there it is [17:03] snwh, that poor Ubuntu logo, you're maiming it [17:09] yeah, aren't the "official" guidelines say that ubuntu logo should not be modified and have a clear space around it.... until it went all purple and flowery in raring big fat button. [17:10] no, maiming then? :) [17:17] A maiming-free environment seems like a good thing to aim for. [17:18] I suspec the way to make the Dash button obvious is not to make it flowery, but to put it back in the menu bar, just colored. [17:19] (Which would also have the advantage that you could click to open the Dash without having to reveal the Launcher.) [17:20] i don't like the bfb hurricane at all -as i like to refer to it as [17:20] i agree, much like GS and Activities [17:20] and it could be hotcornered as well [17:20] yes indeed. [17:21] And free up space in the Launcher, and make the items in the Launcher behave more consistently. [17:21] the support should be at least added for the hotcorner if not on by default. [17:22] a launcher for applications [17:23] I don't think (when I use Unity) i ever use the button anyway, when super is much more convenient [17:23] nor do i click activities in GS [17:24] also if the button was returned to the launcher, one would get rid of that sometimes occurring menu-title duplication [17:25] Thunder File Edit [17:25] XChat IR XChat View Server [17:25] GIMP Im File Edit [17:25] etc [17:25] increasingly most GNOME [17:25] apps [17:26] since they migrate to the drop-down menu [17:26] thing [17:29] aka "Let's solve the menu organization problem by not organizing menu items at all" [17:32] it is quite annoying in nautilus, that there's the cog menu and the global menu, so you don't know which to open to get to a setting; i get that the nautilus settings are in the global menu and the setting for the current window are in the cog, but why break everything up [17:32] === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [17:57] * mpt is finishing off https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#settings-developer [18:03] mpt, neat! that would be useful. is it something forthcoming? [18:47] snwh, yes, targeted for 13.04 === mpt_ is now known as mpt [19:16] mpt does apport/crash dialog still need an icon? [19:16] snwh, yes :-) [19:18] mpt, anything you'd like it to be? [19:18] metaphor-wise [19:18] snwh, about 10% whimsy and 0% Ubuntu logo, but beyond that, I have no clue. :-) [19:20] mpt, okay. I'll start anew. :) [19:20] awesome [19:20] thank you [19:25] mpt how about something like this: http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/thumb_small/483673/483673,1272484664,2/stock-vector-quirky-drawing-of-crumpled-paper-airplane-51969973.jpg [19:31] snwh, that could work :-) [19:35] :) [19:38] * snwh makes paper airplanes to get a crumple to emulate. === sabdfl_ is now known as sabdfl