[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[07:07] <dholbach> Happy Automated Testing Hackfest Day! :-)
[07:07] <pitti> yeehaw!
[07:21] <jibel> good morning
[07:22] <dholbach> salut jibel
[07:22] <jibel> hey dholbach
[07:24] <jibel> I need an xchat macro to say hi on all the channels, I could call it "dholbach's greetings" ;)
[07:25] <dholbach> jibel, you know what it's like: forget to greet one guy in the morning and they're mad at you for the rest of the year :-P
[07:25] <jibel> heh
[07:36] <pitti> jibel: bonjour
[07:36] <pitti> jibel: isn't there a /wall command or something similar?
[07:37] <JoseeAntonioR> pitti: you want to make an announcement?
[07:37] <Noskcaj> jibel, it could be you login message.
[07:37] <pitti> JoseeAntonioR: no, just responding to jibel's question about dholbach-style good mornings :)
[07:37] <JoseeAntonioR> oh :)
[07:38] <dholbach> I'm glad the irc council is not on my case yet :-P
[07:39]  * JoseeAntonioR files a bug
[07:44] <jibel> pitti, bonjour
[07:45] <jibel> there must be something like that, I'll RTFM
[07:49] <Noskcaj> when does the hackfest start?
[07:50] <Noskcaj> just curious
[07:56] <pitti> it's "today", there's no defined start/end
[07:58] <Noskcaj> ok, i'm just wondering if you can get someone to work on transmission
[08:16]  * pitti looks at the gvfs autopkgtest
[09:54] <dholbach> Who is all here for the Automated Testing Hackfest? :)
[10:18] <jibel> dholbach, \o i'm here, going through failed tests http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/
[10:18] <jibel> I'll have a look at apt-clone
[10:19]  * dholbach hugs jibel
[10:21]  * jibel hugs dholbach back :)
[10:21] <pitti> dholbach: me, I guess :)
[10:22] <pitti> I can't reproduce the gvfs failure locally nor in a local test VM
[10:22] <pitti> jibel: I'll log into the production machines and investigate there
[10:34] <dholbach> brb
[10:35] <jibel> pitti, ok
[10:36] <jibel> pitti, the other day I had a failure in the lab for bzr tests that I coulnd't reproduce at home, because the VM in the lab are configured with 2 CPUs and at home it was configured with only 1
[10:38] <pitti> jibel: that error doesn't look like that, though
[10:52] <jibel> pitti, do you know who maintains software-center?
[10:53] <pitti> jibel: not sure who does these days; used to be mvo
[11:18] <jibel> meh, hardcoded release names everywhere in the tests :(
[12:32] <cprofitt> hey all, how does one go about getting a meeting added to the #ubuntu-meeting caledar?
[12:50] <om26er> Is there anything wrong with the latest ISO ?
[12:50] <om26er> it won't go to partition setup
[12:51] <jibel> cprofitt, did you try the procedure described on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar ?
[12:51] <jibel> psivaa, ^ did you see anything like om26er ?
[12:53] <psivaa> jibel: om26er: not recently, but i am not sure if bug 1080701 is the cause
[12:53] <psivaa> om26er: which image, arch, release etc please?
[12:54] <om26er> psivaa: 64bit, the very latest iso of today
[12:56] <psivaa> om26er: i have not tried the 20130201.1 yet manually, the automated tests did not have any issues. let me try
[12:57] <om26er> psivaa: its working now, it seems.
[12:58] <psivaa> om26er: ok fine :)
[13:51] <cprofitt> balloons: balsamiq requires adobe air... :-(
[14:08] <pitti> jibel: bah, jhbuild update is insanely slow on rabisu :( (currently running jhbuild.cron in terminal)
[14:09] <pitti> jibel: I went through most of our yellows and reds, a lot of them looked easy (dirty tree or missing build dep)
[14:10] <pitti> oh dear, I finally nailed the gvfs autopkgtest failure -- that was a beast
[14:16] <jibel> pitti, slow update might be due to the proxy, I was expecting this machine to move to the other lab at some point but it never happened
[16:52] <balloons> phillw, you can always suggest things like this for us as a team to look at
[16:52] <balloons> it looks like bug 1073433 is well-known at this point
[16:52] <balloons> we could be around to help test once it's ready
[16:52] <phillw> balloons: yeah, they seem to have it pretty nailed down to NM
[16:53] <phillw> I haven't seen it on my VMs, just wondering if any people who test with 'real' kit have come across it.
[16:53] <balloons> no.. none of my real or virtual boxes have hit htis
[16:53] <cprofitt> jibel: yes, I found that and book marked it. I knew there were instructions, but could not find them
[16:53] <balloons> or.. heh, I'm oblivious.. but pretty sure.. I would notice :-)
[16:53] <phillw> modem-manager is always the last to close on my virtual and real machines, but it does die.
[16:53] <cprofitt> thanks
[16:54] <phillw> +gracefully
[17:22] <dkessel> wow, the irc logs from today read like an "exciting" hackfest ;)
[17:23] <kparal> is there a video recording of the on-air session?
[17:24] <JoseeAntonioR> kparal: I'm looking on that now :)
[17:30] <balloons> lol
[17:32] <balloons> dkessel, now that you are here.. it's much more exciting..
[17:32] <dkessel> :D
[17:32] <balloons> this is the time for EU and soon some US'ers to have fun
[17:34] <balloons> so dkessel what did you want to work on?
[17:35] <balloons> kparal, I didn't see a recording for dholbach from this morning
[17:35]  * dkessel updates his netbook to then run the autopilot tests on it
[17:35] <balloons> however, I'll be pushing out a screencast today on autopilot.. fingers crossed anyways
[17:35] <balloons> for now, you got me live
[17:35] <balloons> :-p
[17:35] <dkessel> balloons, cadence testing week 5 ;)
[17:36] <balloons> kparal, any questions? need help with something?
[17:37] <kparal> balloons: I just wondered, http://ubuntuonair.com/ says "Next Hangout: QA Hackfest: autopkgtest Test-cases Demo 1st Feb 2013, 10:30 UTC" (we are past that) and the video is Jono Bacon
[17:38] <kparal> where can I access the screencasts tomorrow, is it going to be linked on the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Hackfest
[17:38] <balloons> kparal, yes, the autopkg folks where around earlier, but it doesn't look like they got to record a video for some reason
[17:38] <kparal> that's a pitty
[17:39] <balloons> kparal, I'll update the wiki with the screencast.. sadly the original screencast for autopilot got lost in a hard drive failure.. So I'll be doing another one, but I didn't want to take away from today
[17:39] <balloons> basically it will go over what's in the tutorials, but be visual..
[17:40] <balloons> still, we can work on some tests.. what are you more interested in?
[17:42] <kparal> sorry, gtg
[18:23] <dkessel> balloons, ubuntu-autopilot-tests should depend on recordmydesktop if it needs it to run the tests, maybe?
[18:24] <dkessel> or recommend, or whatever the correct relationship might be ;)
[18:25] <balloons> yes, it should
[18:25] <balloons> I have to push a new pacakage, but someone prposed a branch and I merged it
[18:25] <balloons> so it does depend on it now
[18:26] <dkessel> ah, ok :)
[18:26] <balloons> I was hoping to push something new with today's new stuff
[18:26] <balloons> :-)
[18:28] <dkessel> meh... i just got the evince test to fail. and apport can't process the crash report because of a lack of memory
[18:29] <dkessel> ... to process the recordmydesktop crash, strangely....
[18:31] <dkessel> i'll go the normal "file a bug" route...
[18:40] <dkessel> bug 1112758
[18:47] <balloons> dkessel, ohh, a bug :-)
[18:47] <dkessel> i'll file another one in a minute... for the gedit test
[18:47] <balloons> german locale? it should fail due to strings
[18:47] <dkessel> meh.
[18:48] <balloons> but it shouldn't blow up
[18:48] <dkessel> gedit just crashed btw :)
[18:48] <balloons> yea, for the moment, it's english only.. however, I was discussing with the translation guys about how we could fix that
[18:48] <balloons> and make it do string lookups
[18:49] <balloons> the bugs are still valid tho, but I'm guessing most of the tests will fail.. anything invovling string
[18:49] <dkessel> hmm i had one timing related error in the gedit test i think... that might still be worth reporting
[18:49] <balloons> yes, definitely report everything
[18:49] <balloons> we'll look at the logs.. there might be other things happening
[18:54] <dkessel> bug 1112772
[18:55] <balloons> dkessel, ok I'll look at the logs for these
[19:05] <dkessel> done breaking everything ;/
[19:09] <phillw> dkessel: breaking things is good... Better we do it than our 'customers' :)
[19:10] <dkessel> phillw, yeah i know :) i'm actually working as a developer in my day job ;) i know that is important
[19:11] <balloons> :-)
[19:11] <phillw> hi Noskcaj you want to have a play on the channel you'll be holding your classroom session on?
[19:11] <phillw> balloons: have you set the flags I asked?
[19:11] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:12] <phillw> Noskcaj:  /j #ubuntu-quality-chat
[19:12] <balloons> phillw, yes
[19:13] <phillw> balloons: most odd, chanserv should be there after the set guard on command :/
[19:31]  * balloons is allergic to irc.. I can't stop sneezing
[19:35] <Noskcaj> lol
[19:36] <Noskcaj> balloons, one (offtopic) suggestion i have to help  newcomers is, we make a wiki page with the irc name, real name etc. of the more active users of -quality.
[19:38] <Noskcaj> e.g. : balloons, nicholas skaggs (link to your wiki page), head of ubuntu-quality, is/isn't employed by canonical
[19:39] <Noskcaj> e.g. 2: Noskcaj, jackson doak (link), email, one of the only PPC testers, isn't employed by canonical
[19:41] <balloons> hmm.. not sure everyone would be down for that idea
[19:41] <balloons> however, we could make mention of people who are active and willing to help
[19:41] <balloons> such as yourself.. meaning, if someone straggles in, you can help get them started
[19:42] <Noskcaj> pretty much my reason for setting it up, i would have to check everyone is fine with being on the wiki
[19:55] <phillw> Noskcaj: balloons you may want to look at something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
[19:56] <Noskcaj> will do, isn't balloons meant to be somewhere on this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quality
[19:56] <phillw> I must go and edit back to sorted by UTC!
[19:56] <balloons> ohh.. that's an old page :-)
[19:56] <Noskcaj> ok, that's exactly what i meant
[20:15] <Noskcaj> i have the WhoWeAre up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre , does anyone want to add themselves?
[20:15] <letozaf_> balloons, the autopilot gedit test fails
[20:15] <balloons> letozaf_, I'm looking at dkessel's bug reports now
[20:15] <balloons> see if your issues is similar
[20:15] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/+bug/1112772
[20:16] <letozaf_> balloons, yes I saw it but as I did not understand if it was like mine I have submitted bug #1112838 eventually I will mark it invalid if it's the same
[20:17] <balloons> no worries
[20:17] <balloons> I'll pull your log now too
[20:17] <letozaf_> balloons, I have attached the recordmydesktop files and a screenshot, it does it everytime I run it, I tried 3 times
[20:18] <balloons> k
[20:18] <balloons> is it italian locale?
[20:18] <letozaf_> balloons, yes
[20:18] <balloons> yea, there may be other issues, but that is one of them
[20:19] <balloons> ohh
[20:19] <balloons> yours looks like it never even tried to run
[20:19] <balloons> the introspection example I should say
[20:20] <letozaf_> balloons, yes
[20:23] <balloons> k, looks like there's some stuff to fix-up
[20:23] <balloons> I have to merge some of the newer introspection stuff in there anyway
[20:23] <balloons> good stuff
[20:24] <letozaf_> balloons, if I run autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedi.test_gedit.GeditTests.test_display_file_browser_panel
[20:24] <letozaf_> balloons, it works
[20:24] <balloons> run, running specific tests work
[20:24] <balloons> you can see your log some passed
[20:25] <letozaf_> balloons, the tests previous to this one were ok and if you run this one alone it works
[20:26] <balloons> ohh
[20:26] <balloons> you mean it failed in your log?
[20:26] <balloons> I closed yours
[20:26] <balloons> these passed:
[20:26] <balloons> <testcase classname="ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedit.test_gedit.GeditTests" name="test_highlight_searched_text" time="25.572"/>
[20:26] <balloons> <testcase classname="ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedit.test_gedit.GeditTests" name="test_replace_test" time="23.960"/>
[20:26] <balloons> <testcase classname="ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedit.test_gedit.GeditTests" name="test_save_a_file" time="27.637"/>
[20:27] <balloons> your right it failed in your log <testcase classname="ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedit.test_gedit.GeditTests" name="test_display_file_browser_panel" time="22.193">
[20:27] <letozaf_> balloons, I mean that when I ran the entire Gedit test this "display file browser pannel" failed and if I run it alone it woks
[20:27] <balloons> I think once this one failed it failed the rest: ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection.test_geditintrospection.GtkToolbarTests
[20:27] <letozaf_> balloons, yes it stalls
[20:27] <balloons> yea, so they are probably ok
[20:27] <letozaf_> balloons, look at the screenshot
[20:27] <balloons> just need to fix the middle one
[20:28] <letozaf_> balloons, it stalls with three tabs open
[20:28] <balloons> yea.. the introspection isn't working
[20:28] <balloons> i might have you try something for me quickly
[20:29] <letozaf_> balloons, but it works if you run only that test, no errors
[20:29] <balloons> autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection
[20:29] <balloons> that is failing for me now too..
[20:29] <balloons> so hmm
[20:29] <balloons> let's try the branch version
[20:30] <balloons> fails
[20:30] <balloons> bah.. something must have changed :-(
[20:32] <letozaf_> balloons, I'm running the entire gedit branch test now...
[20:32] <balloons> I blame thomi
[20:32] <letozaf_> balloons, let's see if it fails
[20:32] <balloons> lol
[20:33] <letozaf_> balloons, lol
[20:33] <balloons> so i'll mark those against autopilot itself
[20:33] <balloons> so I have pool/universe/a/autopilot/python-autopilot_1.2daily13.01.28-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[20:34] <balloons> what are you running?
[20:34] <balloons> apt-cache show python-autopilot
[20:34] <letozaf_> balloons, yes the Gedit introspection test fails for me too
[20:34] <balloons> yes, that worked when I publishe dit
[20:35] <letozaf_> balloons, do you need the output ?
[20:35] <letozaf_> balloons, I remember running it and seeing it work
[20:36] <balloons> lol -- so the fix for this is what I spoke with thomi about
[20:37] <balloons> we'd like the push these tests into there stack so they make sure they don't break stuff on our end without their knowledge when they push a new ap version
[20:37] <balloons> so we need to step that up next week and get it in, so we don't have this
[20:37] <balloons> let's see if I can downgrade and have it work again
[20:39] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+build/4247296/+files/libautopilot-gtk_0.5-0ubuntu1%2Bbzr19%2Bpkg0~raring1_amd64.deb
[20:39] <balloons> trying this one
[20:39] <letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:40] <balloons> don't mess your system up :-)
[20:40] <balloons> I'll try
[20:40] <letozaf_> balloons, tell me if you need help
[20:40] <letozaf_> balloons, doesn't matter I can reinstall
[20:40] <letozaf_> balloons, I test on a partition just for testing so I won't lose anything important
[20:41] <balloons> works perfect
[20:41] <balloons> ok, I'll file and blame accordingly
[20:41] <letozaf_> balloons, great!
[20:41] <balloons> lololool
[20:41] <letozaf_> balloons, lol
[20:41] <balloons> ohh one thing
[20:41] <balloons> apt-cache show libautopilot-gtk
[20:42] <balloons> what's it say for you?
[20:42] <balloons> actually, we can blame alesage
[20:42] <letozaf_> balloons, version 0.5-0ubuntu1+bzr22+pkg0-raring1
[20:44] <balloons> letozaf_, hmm
[20:44] <balloons> hmm
[20:45] <letozaf_> balloons, hmmm means something wrong I guess
[20:45] <balloons> try something for me
[20:45] <balloons> sudo apt-get remove libautopilot-gtk-dev libautopilot-gtk0
[20:45] <letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:45] <balloons> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libautopilot-gtk
[20:45] <balloons> my guess is it works
[20:46] <letozaf_> balloons, just a second and I will try
[20:46] <letozaf_> balloons, it's running update
[20:46] <letozaf_> balloons, it's installing libautopilot-gtk
[20:47] <balloons> once it finishes try running it again
[20:47] <balloons> autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection
[20:47] <letozaf_> balloons, I'm running the whole test over again
[20:47] <balloons> yep works
[20:48] <letozaf_> balloons, too late...
[20:48] <balloons> ok, so I blame alesage anyway.. packaging change looks like.. having those old packages conflcted
[20:48]  * letozaf_ is looking at the test running again
[20:49] <letozaf_> balloons, it worked... the introspection thing worked
[20:49] <letozaf_> balloons, magic!
[20:49] <balloons> the whole test pass?
[20:49] <letozaf_> balloons, yes
[20:49] <balloons> nice
[20:49] <letozaf_> balloons, should I mark the bug invalid?
[20:50] <balloons> I'd rather it got marked resolved
[20:50] <balloons> but we can only do fix released...
[20:50] <letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:50] <balloons> so be t
[20:50] <balloons> that's the status
[20:51] <letozaf_> balloons, I will leave you manage the bug
[20:51] <balloons> you can comment that it fixed it I guess for summary
[20:52] <letozaf_> balloons, ok I will write that the apt-get install libautopilot-gtk fixed things up
[20:59] <Noskcaj> balloons, can you add yourself to the WhoWeAre page? once a few people are on it we could even add it to the "getting involved" wiki page.
[20:59] <balloons> you have my blessing to add me :-)
[20:59] <Noskcaj> ok, will do
[20:59] <balloons> you can link to wiki.ubuntu.com/balloons
[21:03] <phillw> Noskcaj: feel free to add me :)
[21:03] <Noskcaj> phillw, i will.
[21:03] <Noskcaj> balloons, your on it now. what timezone though?
[21:03] <Noskcaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre
[21:04] <balloons> est
[21:04] <phillw> my entry is about the same as I have on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> balloons:  oh so you're in the same timezone as me.. no WONDER at 3AM you don't respond :P
[21:04] <phillw> balloons: I think he means +/- from UTC :D
[21:04] <balloons> rofl!
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> balloons:  EST as in eastern us time?
[21:05] <balloons> yes
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> Noskcaj:  UTC-05:00
[21:05] <phillw> +5 ?
[21:05] <balloons> 1600 local here
[21:05] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> yep
[21:05] <phillw> ahh, -5 :P
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> UTC-05:00
[21:05] <balloons> yep.. but it goes to -4
[21:05] <balloons> :-p
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> during dst
[21:05] <balloons> est is always -5
[21:05] <balloons> edt is -4
[21:05] <phillw> day light saving time... wonderful :)
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> but its est right now ;P
[21:05] <balloons> funzies
[21:06] <balloons> I switch timezones twice a year
[21:06] <balloons> what can i say
[21:06] <phillw> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> balloons:  really?  my schedule's written based off of UTC
[21:06] <phillw> I have my own little one, so as to keep track :)
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> so...
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> its kinda irrelevant :p
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> at least to me.
[21:06] <balloons> honestly, I switch timzones almost weekly
[21:07] <balloons> t's not good.. but I've run on london time , munich time, cali time..
[21:07] <phillw> with the people on *buntu, I switch time zones almost daily. Fortunately I get no complaints for going to bed at 0600 UTC and getting up at 1300 UTC :)
[21:08] <Noskcaj> phillw, do you have a website? also, can i add your surname?
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> phillw:  lol
[21:08] <phillw> Noskcaj: all my details are on my wiki page :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
[21:08] <Noskcaj> ok, should have checked that
[21:10] <Noskcaj> is there anyone else who wants to add themselves?
[21:10] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: oh, my TOR Tee-shirt arrived - Very happy with it :)
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> you said taht yesterday?
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> (in priv)
[21:11] <phillw> soz, I was drunk :P
[21:14] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'd suggest sending an email out to the group inviting people to put themselves onto the listing.
[21:17] <Noskcaj> phillw, i will when i'm finished eating
[21:17] <phillw> food is good :)
[21:18] <Noskcaj> :)
[21:28] <Noskcaj> i'm back, email has been sent
[21:30] <phillw> Noskcaj: have you finished with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre ?
[21:31] <Noskcaj> yep
[21:32] <balloons> letozaf_, are you still here?
[21:32] <letozaf_> balloons, yes
[21:32] <balloons> excellent.. I'd like to have you check something else
[21:32] <phillw> okies, I'll go edit it back to UTC order :)
[21:32] <balloons> your in a non-english locale yes?
[21:32] <balloons> autopilot launch gedit
[21:32] <balloons> autopilot vis
[21:33] <letozaf_> balloons, just a minute and I will do it...
[21:34] <letozaf_> balloons, done!
[21:34] <balloons> I'm curious about changing the test to not look at the english string for a new document
[21:36] <balloons> any deas?
[21:36] <letozaf_> balloons, oh ok, but let me do a thing...
[21:36] <balloons> for instance, under geditwndow, what does the title property say?
[21:36] <letozaf_> balloons, I mean I have half english and half italian, let me put it all italian then I will have a look
[21:37] <balloons> kk
[21:37] <letozaf_> balloons, I was just looking at the title and saw it in english, so let me se my notebook properly in italian and then I will tell you
[21:38] <balloons> kk
[21:38] <balloons> I'm curious if the string is translated in the dbus session or not
[21:38] <balloons> if it's not, then :-)
[21:40] <letozaf_> balloons, ok now looks like everything is italian
[21:41] <balloons> k, so title reads as?
[21:41] <letozaf_> balloons, the title is "Documento senza titolo 1"
[21:41] <letozaf_> balloons, bleh@
[21:43] <letozaf_> balloons, wait exactly it is : "Documento senza titolo 1 - gedit"
[21:44] <balloons> hmm
[21:44] <balloons> ok, so I think I can be abstract enough now
[21:44] <balloons> ty
[21:44] <balloons> Untitled Document 1 - gedit
[21:45] <balloons> and when there is no doc open
[21:45] <balloons> it should just read gedit
[21:45] <balloons> is that true?
[21:45] <letozaf_> balloons, "gedit"
[21:45] <balloons> perfect, then yep
[21:56] <fizyxnrd> The hackfest is over, then?
[21:57] <balloons> we're still here :-)
[21:57] <fizyxnrd> So, I'm no programmer, and kind of stumbled on this by asccident.
[21:57] <balloons> fizyxnrd, what are you thinking of hacking on?
[21:57] <balloons> so letozaf_ I'm going to push up a new version of gedit that uses introspection completely and goes farther than the other stuff
[21:57] <fizyxnrd> I saw a message on my screen saver (the apple2 module of xscreensaver) announcing this hackathon.
[21:58] <balloons> hopefully that will help server as an example
[21:58] <balloons> fizyxnrd, ahh
[21:58] <letozaf_> balloons, when will it be available ?
[21:58] <balloons> If you want to hack on it, let me push in just a min
[21:58] <balloons> I want to make sure it works :-)
[21:59] <letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:59] <fizyxnrd> balloons, do you know if this screen saver module always points to the fridge.ubuntu.com message of the day?
[22:00] <balloons> fizyxnrd, I'm not sure
[22:00] <balloons> fizyxnrd, if your interested in learning more, and you haven't yet read the 4 posts I did on autopilot, I'd recommend doing so
[22:01] <balloons> let me link you if you wish
[22:01] <fizyxnrd> balloons, ok, thanks
[22:01] <balloons> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/a-glance-at-autopilot.html
[22:01] <balloons> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/getting-started-with-autopilot.html
[22:01] <balloons> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/our-first-autopilot-testcase.html
[22:01] <balloons> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/01/introspecting-with-autopilot.html
[22:02] <balloons> the first will demonstrate how autopilot works by running some tests you already have on your machine :-)
[22:04] <balloons> I'm getting a really weird error
[22:05] <balloons> there must be a bad char in here
[22:06] <balloons> i'm getting the lovely invalid syntax on valid lines
[22:06] <letozaf_> balloons, yes also happens to me
[22:06] <balloons> I dislke it.. it's not helpful telling you what's wrong
[22:07] <letozaf_> balloons, I solve it canceling between the last letter of the previous line and the first letter of the next line
[22:07] <letozaf_> balloons, maybe I wasn't very clear explaining ...
[22:08] <balloons> no makes sens
[22:08] <balloons> *sens
[22:08] <balloons> *sense
[22:09] <balloons> whew, typing is too hard
[22:09] <letozaf_> balloons, :)
[22:10] <balloons> ok, it's runnng nw
[22:10] <balloons> I just pulled the whole function, haha
[22:12] <letozaf_> balloons, did it work ?
[22:12] <balloons> more or less
[22:12] <balloons> yes
[22:12] <letozaf_> letozaf_, shall I pull and try it
[22:12] <balloons> let me retype this bloody line and send you t
[22:14] <balloons> it hates me
[22:14] <letozaf_> balloons, lol
[22:15] <balloons> literally I copied this line from other example
[22:15] <balloons> I'm so confused
[22:15] <phillw> balloons: look on the bright side, I've got to have a 'sensible' method of both getting a GPG key and allocating it to LP over the weekend :)
[22:16] <balloons> ZOMG
[22:16] <balloons> I got it
[22:16] <letozaf_> balloons, great!
[22:16] <balloons> nope
[22:16] <balloons> rats
[22:17] <letozaf_> balloons, :-D
[22:17] <balloons> ok, I'm commenting it out and leaving it
[22:17] <balloons> I've no idea
[22:17] <letozaf_> balloons, do you think I can help ?
[22:17] <balloons> the test isn't complete anyway
[22:17] <balloons> yes, you can
[22:17] <balloons> here
[22:18] <balloons> let's just put this in a pad
[22:18] <balloons> http://pad.ubuntu.com/YURlsvBE25
[22:18] <balloons> so I stubbed out some more tests i wanted to add
[22:18]  * letozaf_ is reading
[22:18] <balloons> and pulled over things
[22:19] <balloons> you'll probably want to take it out of the pad and place back into your editor
[22:19] <balloons> for syntax highlightng
[22:19] <letozaf_> balloons, yep was just thinking of doing it
[22:22] <letozaf_> balloons, got lost,where is the part ?
[22:22] <balloons> which part?
[22:23] <balloons> the broken piece?
[22:23] <letozaf_> balloons, the one you commented
[22:23] <balloons> test_insert_overwrite_mode
[22:23] <letozaf_> balloons, thanks
[22:23] <balloons> the blank functions have just a return at the top
[22:23] <balloons> so they will still compile
[22:28] <letozaf_> balloons, I'm knocked out! I will check tomorrow can't focus I'm too tired, it's been a hard week for me :)
[22:28] <balloons> no worries
[22:28] <balloons> anyways, I'll push up the result
[22:28] <balloons> so you can ignore what you've got
[22:29] <letozaf_> balloons, maybe tomorrow I can have a look at it anyway and see if I can make it work
[22:30] <balloons> sure
[22:30] <letozaf_> balloons, do you want me to pull and try the one you have pushed
[22:32] <balloons> it's not pushed yet
[22:32] <balloons> but yea, whenever tomorrow, you'll see something new in there
[22:32] <balloons> feel free to hack away on it
[22:32] <balloons> or, just hack on one of the others
[22:32] <balloons> are you comfortable with introspection yet?
[22:33] <letozaf_> balloons, so and so.. did not have much time this week to work on it
[22:33] <balloons> ok
[22:33] <letozaf_> balloons, but I will catch up
[22:33] <balloons> the blog post i did with the geditintrospecton example is a good place to start
[22:34] <balloons> it works and covers everything you need to know
[22:34] <balloons> it's in the branch
[22:34] <letozaf_> balloons, yes I saw it, started reading but could not finish it
[22:34] <balloons> right
[22:34] <alesage> balloons hi, is someone working on eog tests?
[22:34] <balloons> so yea, perhaps something new is best
[22:34] <alesage> b/c I happen to need to write some
[22:35] <letozaf_> balloons, ok I'm going to bed now, goodnight!
[22:35] <balloons> alesage, hello
[22:35] <balloons> g--night letozaf_
[22:35] <balloons> umm. let me see alesage
[22:35] <alesage> hello balloons, also hi
[22:36] <balloons> alesage, https://trello.com/board/autopilot-tests/50e735ad7351f0a64e00040c
[22:36] <alesage> right, I see a card on yr trello
[22:36] <balloons> I guess that was me :-)
[22:36] <balloons> lol
[22:36] <balloons> ohh
[22:36] <alesage> this is a neat site, btw, never worked with it before
[22:36] <balloons> i remmeber
[22:36] <balloons>  Sergio is going to do this with my help
[22:36] <alesage> is it free to sign up, etc.?
[22:36] <balloons> so atm, no nothing has bee ndown
[22:36] <balloons> *done
[22:36] <balloons> serigio didn't get a chance to start
[22:37] <balloons> yes, feel free to claim it
[22:37] <balloons> you have a username, i'll add you
[22:37] <alesage> ok--I have a branch that someone on my team is attempting to land that's relevant so maybe I can contribute here
[22:37] <alesage> ok is the program just to replicate this, e.g. http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1416/info ?
[22:38] <balloons> in the case where we have manual tests, we reference them as a good starting point
[22:38] <alesage> ok
[22:38] <alesage> balloons, are you around for a bit, just curious? may have a q or 2
[22:38] <balloons> yes, I'm here for a bit longer
[22:38] <alesage> ok thx balloons
[22:38] <balloons> did you see me blaming you and thomi earlier for the packaging?
[22:39] <alesage> btw apologies about the packaging
[22:39] <alesage> did it get sorted?
[22:39] <balloons> no worries.. I figured it out
[22:39] <balloons> and it worked after
[22:39] <balloons> so :-)
[22:39] <alesage> ok, was the problem just the module name itself?
[22:39] <alesage> (invoking it, etc.)
[22:39] <balloons> conflicting stuff
[22:40] <balloons> the old gtk-dev and gtk0 packages had to be removed
[22:40] <balloons> then I installed libautopilot-gtk
[22:40] <balloons> and everythng worked again
[22:40] <balloons> with all of them installed, it couldn't find the introspection module to load on startup
[22:40] <balloons> and they just fell over
[22:41] <alesage> o hmm, ok, well I did some testing to try to avoid the update pain but apparently to no effect :/
[22:41] <alesage> and then the re-naming, right
[22:41] <alesage> sorry 'bout that, hope it's all better--no more packaging changes to do anyway
[22:41] <balloons> yes, it's good
[22:42] <balloons> just abusing the early adopters :-0
[22:42] <balloons> other folks shouldn't have the issue
[22:44] <alesage> last time I swear :)
[22:44] <alesage> balloons, I set up a trello account if you want to add moi
[22:44] <balloons> yes
[22:44] <balloons> what is the name?
[22:44] <alesage> balloons, either allanlesage or Allan LeSage
[22:45] <balloons> lol
[22:45] <balloons> I think i found it
[22:45] <balloons> I started typing and boom
[22:45] <balloons> it added you
[22:45] <balloons> boom, your assigned
[22:45] <alesage> boom!
[22:45] <alesage> got the notifications
[22:45] <alesage> nifty site, again
[22:46] <balloons> :-)
[22:52] <phillw> balloons: will you be about over the weekend?
[22:54] <balloons> hmm
[22:54] <balloons> not a ton
[22:54] <balloons> gong to be traveling
[23:25]  * thomi heard his name
[23:25] <phillw> balloons: okies. I'll get the GPG issue sorted over the weekend. Hopefully be ready for approval on Monday :)
[23:39] <Noskcaj> thomi, i think that was two hours ago