[07:07] good morning [07:07] Happy Automated Testing Hackfest Day! :-) [07:07] yeehaw! [07:21] good morning [07:22] salut jibel [07:22] hey dholbach [07:24] I need an xchat macro to say hi on all the channels, I could call it "dholbach's greetings" ;) [07:25] jibel, you know what it's like: forget to greet one guy in the morning and they're mad at you for the rest of the year :-P [07:25] heh [07:36] jibel: bonjour [07:36] jibel: isn't there a /wall command or something similar? [07:37] pitti: you want to make an announcement? [07:37] jibel, it could be you login message. [07:37] JoseeAntonioR: no, just responding to jibel's question about dholbach-style good mornings :) [07:37] oh :) [07:38] I'm glad the irc council is not on my case yet :-P [07:39] * JoseeAntonioR files a bug [07:44] pitti, bonjour [07:45] there must be something like that, I'll RTFM [07:49] when does the hackfest start? [07:50] just curious [07:56] it's "today", there's no defined start/end [07:58] ok, i'm just wondering if you can get someone to work on transmission [08:16] * pitti looks at the gvfs autopkgtest === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [09:54] Who is all here for the Automated Testing Hackfest? :) [10:18] dholbach, \o i'm here, going through failed tests http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/ [10:18] I'll have a look at apt-clone [10:19] * dholbach hugs jibel [10:21] * jibel hugs dholbach back :) [10:21] dholbach: me, I guess :) [10:22] I can't reproduce the gvfs failure locally nor in a local test VM [10:22] jibel: I'll log into the production machines and investigate there [10:34] brb [10:35] pitti, ok [10:36] pitti, the other day I had a failure in the lab for bzr tests that I coulnd't reproduce at home, because the VM in the lab are configured with 2 CPUs and at home it was configured with only 1 [10:38] jibel: that error doesn't look like that, though [10:52] pitti, do you know who maintains software-center? [10:53] jibel: not sure who does these days; used to be mvo [11:18] meh, hardcoded release names everywhere in the tests :( === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === _salem is now known as salem_ === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:32] hey all, how does one go about getting a meeting added to the #ubuntu-meeting caledar? [12:50] Is there anything wrong with the latest ISO ? [12:50] it won't go to partition setup [12:51] cprofitt, did you try the procedure described on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar ? [12:51] psivaa, ^ did you see anything like om26er ? [12:53] jibel: om26er: not recently, but i am not sure if bug 1080701 is the cause [12:53] bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080701 [12:53] om26er: which image, arch, release etc please? [12:54] psivaa: 64bit, the very latest iso of today === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [12:56] om26er: i have not tried the 20130201.1 yet manually, the automated tests did not have any issues. let me try [12:57] psivaa: its working now, it seems. [12:58] om26er: ok fine :) [13:51] balloons: balsamiq requires adobe air... :-( [14:08] jibel: bah, jhbuild update is insanely slow on rabisu :( (currently running jhbuild.cron in terminal) [14:09] jibel: I went through most of our yellows and reds, a lot of them looked easy (dirty tree or missing build dep) [14:10] oh dear, I finally nailed the gvfs autopkgtest failure -- that was a beast [14:16] pitti, slow update might be due to the proxy, I was expecting this machine to move to the other lab at some point but it never happened === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === salem_ is now known as _salem [16:52] phillw, you can always suggest things like this for us as a team to look at [16:52] it looks like bug 1073433 is well-known at this point [16:52] bug 1073433 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Ext4 corruption associated with shutdown of Ubuntu 12.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073433 [16:52] we could be around to help test once it's ready [16:52] balloons: yeah, they seem to have it pretty nailed down to NM [16:53] I haven't seen it on my VMs, just wondering if any people who test with 'real' kit have come across it. [16:53] no.. none of my real or virtual boxes have hit htis [16:53] jibel: yes, I found that and book marked it. I knew there were instructions, but could not find them [16:53] or.. heh, I'm oblivious.. but pretty sure.. I would notice :-) [16:53] modem-manager is always the last to close on my virtual and real machines, but it does die. [16:53] thanks [16:54] +gracefully === zequence_ is now known as zequence [17:22] wow, the irc logs from today read like an "exciting" hackfest ;) [17:23] is there a video recording of the on-air session? [17:24] kparal: I'm looking on that now :) [17:30] lol [17:32] dkessel, now that you are here.. it's much more exciting.. [17:32] :D [17:32] this is the time for EU and soon some US'ers to have fun [17:34] so dkessel what did you want to work on? [17:35] kparal, I didn't see a recording for dholbach from this morning [17:35] * dkessel updates his netbook to then run the autopilot tests on it [17:35] however, I'll be pushing out a screencast today on autopilot.. fingers crossed anyways [17:35] for now, you got me live [17:35] :-p [17:35] balloons, cadence testing week 5 ;) [17:36] kparal, any questions? need help with something? [17:37] balloons: I just wondered, http://ubuntuonair.com/ says "Next Hangout: QA Hackfest: autopkgtest Test-cases Demo 1st Feb 2013, 10:30 UTC" (we are past that) and the video is Jono Bacon [17:38] where can I access the screencasts tomorrow, is it going to be linked on the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Hackfest [17:38] kparal, yes, the autopkg folks where around earlier, but it doesn't look like they got to record a video for some reason [17:38] that's a pitty [17:39] kparal, I'll update the wiki with the screencast.. sadly the original screencast for autopilot got lost in a hard drive failure.. So I'll be doing another one, but I didn't want to take away from today [17:39] basically it will go over what's in the tutorials, but be visual.. [17:40] still, we can work on some tests.. what are you more interested in? [17:42] sorry, gtg === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:23] balloons, ubuntu-autopilot-tests should depend on recordmydesktop if it needs it to run the tests, maybe? [18:24] or recommend, or whatever the correct relationship might be ;) [18:25] yes, it should [18:25] I have to push a new pacakage, but someone prposed a branch and I merged it [18:25] so it does depend on it now [18:26] ah, ok :) [18:26] I was hoping to push something new with today's new stuff [18:26] :-) [18:28] meh... i just got the evince test to fail. and apport can't process the crash report because of a lack of memory [18:29] ... to process the recordmydesktop crash, strangely.... [18:31] i'll go the normal "file a bug" route... [18:40] bug 1112758 [18:40] bug 1112758 in Ubuntu Autopilot Tests "evince autopilot test hangs at a certain point" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1112758 [18:47] dkessel, ohh, a bug :-) [18:47] i'll file another one in a minute... for the gedit test [18:47] german locale? it should fail due to strings [18:47] meh. [18:48] but it shouldn't blow up [18:48] gedit just crashed btw :) [18:48] yea, for the moment, it's english only.. however, I was discussing with the translation guys about how we could fix that [18:48] and make it do string lookups [18:49] the bugs are still valid tho, but I'm guessing most of the tests will fail.. anything invovling string [18:49] hmm i had one timing related error in the gedit test i think... that might still be worth reporting [18:49] yes, definitely report everything [18:49] we'll look at the logs.. there might be other things happening === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:54] bug 1112772 [18:54] bug 1112772 in Ubuntu Autopilot Tests "gedit autopilot hangs, then crashed gedit (?), then hangs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1112772 [18:55] dkessel, ok I'll look at the logs for these [19:05] done breaking everything ;/ [19:09] dkessel: breaking things is good... Better we do it than our 'customers' :) [19:10] phillw, yeah i know :) i'm actually working as a developer in my day job ;) i know that is important [19:11] :-) [19:11] hi Noskcaj you want to have a play on the channel you'll be holding your classroom session on? [19:11] balloons: have you set the flags I asked? [19:11] ok [19:12] Noskcaj: /j #ubuntu-quality-chat [19:12] phillw, yes [19:13] balloons: most odd, chanserv should be there after the set guard on command :/ [19:31] * balloons is allergic to irc.. I can't stop sneezing [19:35] lol [19:36] balloons, one (offtopic) suggestion i have to help newcomers is, we make a wiki page with the irc name, real name etc. of the more active users of -quality. [19:38] e.g. : balloons, nicholas skaggs (link to your wiki page), head of ubuntu-quality, is/isn't employed by canonical [19:39] e.g. 2: Noskcaj, jackson doak (link), email, one of the only PPC testers, isn't employed by canonical [19:41] hmm.. not sure everyone would be down for that idea [19:41] however, we could make mention of people who are active and willing to help [19:41] such as yourself.. meaning, if someone straggles in, you can help get them started [19:42] pretty much my reason for setting it up, i would have to check everyone is fine with being on the wiki === root is now known as Guest59686 [19:55] Noskcaj: balloons you may want to look at something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre [19:56] will do, isn't balloons meant to be somewhere on this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quality [19:56] I must go and edit back to sorted by UTC! [19:56] ohh.. that's an old page :-) [19:56] ok, that's exactly what i meant [20:15] i have the WhoWeAre up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre , does anyone want to add themselves? [20:15] balloons, the autopilot gedit test fails [20:15] letozaf_, I'm looking at dkessel's bug reports now [20:15] see if your issues is similar [20:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/+bug/1112772 [20:15] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1112772 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1112772). The error has been logged [20:16] balloons, yes I saw it but as I did not understand if it was like mine I have submitted bug #1112838 eventually I will mark it invalid if it's the same [20:16] bug 1112838 in gedit (Ubuntu) "autopilot test "GeditTests.test_display_file_browser_panel" fails with "AssertionError: No window was opened"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1112838 [20:17] no worries [20:17] I'll pull your log now too [20:17] balloons, I have attached the recordmydesktop files and a screenshot, it does it everytime I run it, I tried 3 times [20:18] k [20:18] is it italian locale? [20:18] balloons, yes [20:18] yea, there may be other issues, but that is one of them [20:19] ohh [20:19] yours looks like it never even tried to run [20:19] the introspection example I should say [20:20] balloons, yes [20:23] k, looks like there's some stuff to fix-up [20:23] I have to merge some of the newer introspection stuff in there anyway [20:23] good stuff [20:24] balloons, if I run autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.gedi.test_gedit.GeditTests.test_display_file_browser_panel [20:24] balloons, it works [20:24] run, running specific tests work [20:24] you can see your log some passed [20:25] balloons, the tests previous to this one were ok and if you run this one alone it works [20:26] ohh [20:26] you mean it failed in your log? [20:26] I closed yours [20:26] these passed: [20:26] [20:26] [20:26] [20:27] your right it failed in your log [20:27] balloons, I mean that when I ran the entire Gedit test this "display file browser pannel" failed and if I run it alone it woks [20:27] I think once this one failed it failed the rest: ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection.test_geditintrospection.GtkToolbarTests [20:27] balloons, yes it stalls [20:27] yea, so they are probably ok [20:27] balloons, look at the screenshot [20:27] just need to fix the middle one [20:28] balloons, it stalls with three tabs open [20:28] yea.. the introspection isn't working [20:28] i might have you try something for me quickly [20:29] balloons, but it works if you run only that test, no errors [20:29] autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection [20:29] that is failing for me now too.. [20:29] so hmm [20:29] let's try the branch version [20:30] fails [20:30] bah.. something must have changed :-( [20:32] balloons, I'm running the entire gedit branch test now... [20:32] I blame thomi [20:32] balloons, let's see if it fails [20:32] lol [20:33] balloons, lol [20:33] so i'll mark those against autopilot itself [20:33] so I have pool/universe/a/autopilot/python-autopilot_1.2daily13.01.28-0ubuntu1_all.deb [20:34] what are you running? [20:34] apt-cache show python-autopilot [20:34] balloons, yes the Gedit introspection test fails for me too [20:34] yes, that worked when I publishe dit [20:35] balloons, do you need the output ? [20:35] balloons, I remember running it and seeing it work [20:36] lol -- so the fix for this is what I spoke with thomi about [20:37] we'd like the push these tests into there stack so they make sure they don't break stuff on our end without their knowledge when they push a new ap version [20:37] so we need to step that up next week and get it in, so we don't have this [20:37] let's see if I can downgrade and have it work again [20:39] https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+build/4247296/+files/libautopilot-gtk_0.5-0ubuntu1%2Bbzr19%2Bpkg0~raring1_amd64.deb [20:39] trying this one [20:39] balloons, ok [20:40] don't mess your system up :-) [20:40] I'll try [20:40] balloons, tell me if you need help [20:40] balloons, doesn't matter I can reinstall [20:40] balloons, I test on a partition just for testing so I won't lose anything important [20:41] works perfect [20:41] ok, I'll file and blame accordingly [20:41] balloons, great! [20:41] lololool [20:41] balloons, lol [20:41] ohh one thing [20:41] apt-cache show libautopilot-gtk [20:42] what's it say for you? [20:42] actually, we can blame alesage [20:42] balloons, version 0.5-0ubuntu1+bzr22+pkg0-raring1 [20:44] letozaf_, hmm [20:44] hmm [20:45] balloons, hmmm means something wrong I guess [20:45] try something for me [20:45] sudo apt-get remove libautopilot-gtk-dev libautopilot-gtk0 [20:45] balloons, ok [20:45] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libautopilot-gtk [20:45] my guess is it works [20:46] balloons, just a second and I will try [20:46] balloons, it's running update [20:46] balloons, it's installing libautopilot-gtk [20:47] once it finishes try running it again [20:47] autopilot run ubuntu_autopilot_tests.geditintrospection [20:47] balloons, I'm running the whole test over again [20:47] yep works [20:48] balloons, too late... [20:48] ok, so I blame alesage anyway.. packaging change looks like.. having those old packages conflcted [20:48] * letozaf_ is looking at the test running again [20:49] balloons, it worked... the introspection thing worked [20:49] balloons, magic! [20:49] the whole test pass? [20:49] balloons, yes [20:49] nice [20:49] balloons, should I mark the bug invalid? [20:50] I'd rather it got marked resolved [20:50] but we can only do fix released... [20:50] balloons, ok [20:50] so be t [20:50] that's the status [20:51] balloons, I will leave you manage the bug [20:51] you can comment that it fixed it I guess for summary === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [20:52] balloons, ok I will write that the apt-get install libautopilot-gtk fixed things up [20:59] balloons, can you add yourself to the WhoWeAre page? once a few people are on it we could even add it to the "getting involved" wiki page. [20:59] you have my blessing to add me :-) [20:59] ok, will do [20:59] you can link to wiki.ubuntu.com/balloons [21:03] Noskcaj: feel free to add me :) [21:03] phillw, i will. [21:03] balloons, your on it now. what timezone though? [21:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre [21:04] est [21:04] my entry is about the same as I have on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre [21:04] balloons: oh so you're in the same timezone as me.. no WONDER at 3AM you don't respond :P [21:04] balloons: I think he means +/- from UTC :D [21:04] rofl! [21:05] balloons: EST as in eastern us time? [21:05] yes [21:05] Noskcaj: UTC-05:00 [21:05] +5 ? [21:05] 1600 local here [21:05] ok [21:05] yep [21:05] ahh, -5 :P [21:05] UTC-05:00 [21:05] yep.. but it goes to -4 [21:05] :-p [21:05] during dst [21:05] est is always -5 [21:05] edt is -4 [21:05] day light saving time... wonderful :) [21:05] mhm [21:05] but its est right now ;P [21:05] funzies [21:06] I switch timezones twice a year [21:06] what can i say [21:06] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html [21:06] balloons: really? my schedule's written based off of UTC [21:06] I have my own little one, so as to keep track :) [21:06] so... [21:06] its kinda irrelevant :p [21:06] at least to me. [21:06] honestly, I switch timzones almost weekly [21:07] t's not good.. but I've run on london time , munich time, cali time.. [21:07] with the people on *buntu, I switch time zones almost daily. Fortunately I get no complaints for going to bed at 0600 UTC and getting up at 1300 UTC :) [21:08] phillw, do you have a website? also, can i add your surname? [21:08] phillw: lol [21:08] Noskcaj: all my details are on my wiki page :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw [21:08] ok, should have checked that [21:10] is there anyone else who wants to add themselves? [21:10] TheLordOfTime: oh, my TOR Tee-shirt arrived - Very happy with it :) [21:10] you said taht yesterday? [21:11] (in priv) [21:11] soz, I was drunk :P [21:14] Noskcaj: I'd suggest sending an email out to the group inviting people to put themselves onto the listing. [21:17] phillw, i will when i'm finished eating [21:17] food is good :) [21:18] :) [21:28] i'm back, email has been sent [21:30] Noskcaj: have you finished with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre ? [21:31] yep [21:32] letozaf_, are you still here? [21:32] balloons, yes [21:32] excellent.. I'd like to have you check something else [21:32] okies, I'll go edit it back to UTC order :) [21:32] your in a non-english locale yes? [21:32] autopilot launch gedit [21:32] autopilot vis [21:33] balloons, just a minute and I will do it... [21:34] balloons, done! [21:34] I'm curious about changing the test to not look at the english string for a new document [21:36] any deas? [21:36] balloons, oh ok, but let me do a thing... [21:36] for instance, under geditwndow, what does the title property say? [21:36] balloons, I mean I have half english and half italian, let me put it all italian then I will have a look [21:37] kk [21:37] balloons, I was just looking at the title and saw it in english, so let me se my notebook properly in italian and then I will tell you [21:38] kk [21:38] I'm curious if the string is translated in the dbus session or not [21:38] if it's not, then :-) [21:40] balloons, ok now looks like everything is italian [21:41] k, so title reads as? [21:41] balloons, the title is "Documento senza titolo 1" [21:41] balloons, bleh@ [21:43] balloons, wait exactly it is : "Documento senza titolo 1 - gedit" [21:44] hmm [21:44] ok, so I think I can be abstract enough now [21:44] ty [21:44] Untitled Document 1 - gedit [21:45] and when there is no doc open [21:45] it should just read gedit [21:45] is that true? [21:45] balloons, "gedit" [21:45] perfect, then yep === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [21:56] The hackfest is over, then? [21:57] we're still here :-) [21:57] So, I'm no programmer, and kind of stumbled on this by asccident. [21:57] fizyxnrd, what are you thinking of hacking on? [21:57] so letozaf_ I'm going to push up a new version of gedit that uses introspection completely and goes farther than the other stuff [21:57] I saw a message on my screen saver (the apple2 module of xscreensaver) announcing this hackathon. [21:58] hopefully that will help server as an example [21:58] fizyxnrd, ahh [21:58] balloons, when will it be available ? [21:58] If you want to hack on it, let me push in just a min [21:58] I want to make sure it works :-) [21:59] balloons, ok [21:59] balloons, do you know if this screen saver module always points to the fridge.ubuntu.com message of the day? [22:00] fizyxnrd, I'm not sure [22:00] fizyxnrd, if your interested in learning more, and you haven't yet read the 4 posts I did on autopilot, I'd recommend doing so [22:01] let me link you if you wish [22:01] balloons, ok, thanks [22:01] http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/a-glance-at-autopilot.html [22:01] http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/getting-started-with-autopilot.html [22:01] http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/our-first-autopilot-testcase.html [22:01] http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/01/introspecting-with-autopilot.html [22:02] the first will demonstrate how autopilot works by running some tests you already have on your machine :-) [22:04] I'm getting a really weird error [22:05] there must be a bad char in here [22:06] i'm getting the lovely invalid syntax on valid lines [22:06] balloons, yes also happens to me [22:06] I dislke it.. it's not helpful telling you what's wrong [22:07] balloons, I solve it canceling between the last letter of the previous line and the first letter of the next line [22:07] balloons, maybe I wasn't very clear explaining ... [22:08] no makes sens [22:08] *sens [22:08] *sense [22:09] whew, typing is too hard [22:09] balloons, :) [22:10] ok, it's runnng nw [22:10] I just pulled the whole function, haha [22:12] balloons, did it work ? [22:12] more or less [22:12] yes [22:12] letozaf_, shall I pull and try it [22:12] let me retype this bloody line and send you t [22:14] it hates me [22:14] balloons, lol [22:15] literally I copied this line from other example [22:15] I'm so confused [22:15] balloons: look on the bright side, I've got to have a 'sensible' method of both getting a GPG key and allocating it to LP over the weekend :) [22:16] ZOMG [22:16] I got it [22:16] balloons, great! [22:16] nope [22:16] rats [22:17]