| phillw | cjwatson: infinity do the flavors that do not 'subscribe' to 12.04.1 / 12.04.02 get the 'core' updates as part of normal updating? | 01:14 |
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| cjwatson | phillw: yes | 01:39 |
| cjwatson | it would be pretty hard to stop them | 01:39 |
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| * cjwatson eyes an image build failure on amd64 | 10:03 | |
| cjwatson | (before psivaa notices :-) ) | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | good grief, is it February already | 10:05 |
| psivaa | :), but there is an amd64 | 10:06 |
| psivaa | image i mean | 10:06 |
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| cjwatson | psivaa: mm, with a stale livefs though | 10:09 |
| psivaa | cjwatson: ok, i dont know the impact of this, but the image has passed the default smoke tests including a manual installation | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | if it's not broken for you yet, don't worry then :) | 10:16 |
| cjwatson | but I'll fix it anyway, since it'll go wrong eventually | 10:16 |
| cjwatson | impact: the image doesn't actually have new software | 10:21 |
| psivaa | cjwatson: ok yes just noticed amd64 images have 3.8.0-2-generic whilst the i386 have 3.8.0-3-generic :) | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | I think it's just bad luck with upload timing, actually | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | I'll poke a respin | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | linux-meta was uploaded in the right kind of time period, and there's probably a window where the live task is wrong in the archive | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | ok, that respin seems to have worked, or at any rate hasn't complained at me | 11:01 |
| psivaa | cjwatson: ok, will use the latest. thanks | 11:11 |
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| cjwatson | Wait. What? libxkbcommon generates shlibs with *exact version* dependencies? | 15:37 |
| Laney | grim, eh? | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | Huh, it's in 0.1.0~0-1's changelog | 15:38 |
| Laney | We were just discussing that in #-desktop - I pinged tjaalton for comment | 15:38 |
| cjwatson | "Since users are likely to be only XServer and Wayland, that shouldn't be too much of a hassle." | 15:38 |
| Laney | I believe that's a hangover from when it was really expereimental | 15:38 |
| cjwatson | So, uh, yeah, I guess somebody's going to reupload gtk+3.0 ... | 15:38 |
| Laney | We'll take care of it, but I'd like it to be after fixing the shlibs | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | Depends how long the latter takes, I guess | 15:39 |
| Laney | sure | 15:39 |
| Laney | Surprised this didn't get caught at MIR time though | 15:40 |
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| infinity | Laney: It was totally caught at MIR time as a feature. :P | 17:02 |
| infinity | Laney: "Looks fine. The packaging is great. No symbols file, but it specifies a strict -V arg for dh_makeshlibs. Builds fine. Even has a bug subscriber!" | 17:02 |
| Laney | Hah :P | 17:02 |
| infinity | (Were it a -V of just the upstream version or something, that wouldn't bug me terribly, though symbols files are much saner to guard against regressions and such) | 17:03 |
| Laney | that's what we have in u3 now | 17:03 |
| infinity | Laney: The symbols file in -0ubuntu3 is surely a lie... | 17:05 |
| infinity | Laney: Not that I guess partial upgrades are a big concern, but I assume most of those symbols should be tagged 0.1.0, not 0.2.0 | 17:06 |
| Laney | I didn't look at it. What's the problem? | 17:06 |
| Laney | Maybe. I'm not sure I care all that much for the two rdeps that are already broken. | 17:07 |
| infinity | Yeah, it's not really a big deal, I suppose. I'm just the sort of anal retentive perfectionist who would have gone back in time and generate my symbols file on 0.1.0, then updated it for 0.2.0. | 17:08 |
| infinity | With absolutely zero benefit. | 17:08 |
| Laney | I'm sure tjaalton would love a patch. :P | 17:09 |
| tjaalton | well, there never was a 0.1.0 | 17:10 |
| tjaalton | 0.2.0 is the first release | 17:10 |
| tjaalton | that doesn't mean 0.1.0~ didn't have any symbols.. | 17:11 |
| tjaalton | so I could fix that, but it's probably not urgent?-) | 17:11 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Not only is it not urgent, it's pointless. | 17:13 |
| tjaalton | :) | 17:13 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Since the only reason to have a symbols file that lists 0.1.0's symbols is to allow people to install 0.1.0 to satisfy the dep. Which we probably don't want anyway. | 17:13 |
| tjaalton | right | 17:14 |
| infinity | tjaalton: I was just being mildly anal about the documentation of symbol history, I guess. :P | 17:14 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 17:14 |
| infinity | I do find that, with a few rare examples like glibc, Debian symbols file are often one of the better references for "this symbol was added in version $foo". | 17:14 |
| Laney | http://upstream-tracker.org/ is quite neat | 17:16 |
| infinity | Laney: Ooo, neat, I've never seen that before. | 17:17 |
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| phillw | ScottK: from the OP --> Devon Tourond : Thanks | 22:49 |
| ScottK | phillw: You're welcome. | 23:40 |
| phillw | well, we don't often get a 'thank you' back from OP's, So I wanted to share that one with you :) | 23:53 |
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