[01:14] cjwatson: infinity do the flavors that do not 'subscribe' to 12.04.1 / 12.04.02 get the 'core' updates as part of normal updating? [01:39] phillw: yes [01:39] it would be pretty hard to stop them === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === henrix_ is now known as henrix [10:03] * cjwatson eyes an image build failure on amd64 [10:04] (before psivaa notices :-) ) [10:05] good grief, is it February already [10:06] :), but there is an amd64 [10:06] image i mean === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix [10:09] psivaa: mm, with a stale livefs though [10:14] cjwatson: ok, i dont know the impact of this, but the image has passed the default smoke tests including a manual installation [10:16] if it's not broken for you yet, don't worry then :) [10:16] but I'll fix it anyway, since it'll go wrong eventually [10:21] impact: the image doesn't actually have new software [10:21] cjwatson: ok yes just noticed amd64 images have 3.8.0-2-generic whilst the i386 have 3.8.0-3-generic :) [10:21] I think it's just bad luck with upload timing, actually [10:21] I'll poke a respin [10:21] linux-meta was uploaded in the right kind of time period, and there's probably a window where the live task is wrong in the archive [11:01] ok, that respin seems to have worked, or at any rate hasn't complained at me [11:11] cjwatson: ok, will use the latest. thanks === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === jbicha is now known as Guest65975 === Guest65975 is now known as jbicha_ [15:37] Wait. What? libxkbcommon generates shlibs with *exact version* dependencies? [15:37] grim, eh? [15:38] Huh, it's in 0.1.0~0-1's changelog [15:38] We were just discussing that in #-desktop - I pinged tjaalton for comment [15:38] "Since users are likely to be only XServer and Wayland, that shouldn't be too much of a hassle." [15:38] I believe that's a hangover from when it was really expereimental [15:38] So, uh, yeah, I guess somebody's going to reupload gtk+3.0 ... [15:39] We'll take care of it, but I'd like it to be after fixing the shlibs [15:39] Depends how long the latter takes, I guess [15:39] sure [15:40] Surprised this didn't get caught at MIR time though === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:02] Laney: It was totally caught at MIR time as a feature. :P [17:02] Laney: "Looks fine. The packaging is great. No symbols file, but it specifies a strict -V arg for dh_makeshlibs. Builds fine. Even has a bug subscriber!" [17:02] Hah :P [17:03] (Were it a -V of just the upstream version or something, that wouldn't bug me terribly, though symbols files are much saner to guard against regressions and such) [17:03] that's what we have in u3 now [17:05] Laney: The symbols file in -0ubuntu3 is surely a lie... [17:06] Laney: Not that I guess partial upgrades are a big concern, but I assume most of those symbols should be tagged 0.1.0, not 0.2.0 [17:06] I didn't look at it. What's the problem? [17:07] Maybe. I'm not sure I care all that much for the two rdeps that are already broken. [17:08] Yeah, it's not really a big deal, I suppose. I'm just the sort of anal retentive perfectionist who would have gone back in time and generate my symbols file on 0.1.0, then updated it for 0.2.0. [17:08] With absolutely zero benefit. [17:09] I'm sure tjaalton would love a patch. :P [17:10] well, there never was a 0.1.0 [17:10] 0.2.0 is the first release [17:11] that doesn't mean 0.1.0~ didn't have any symbols.. [17:11] so I could fix that, but it's probably not urgent?-) [17:13] tjaalton: Not only is it not urgent, it's pointless. [17:13] :) [17:13] tjaalton: Since the only reason to have a symbols file that lists 0.1.0's symbols is to allow people to install 0.1.0 to satisfy the dep. Which we probably don't want anyway. [17:14] right [17:14] tjaalton: I was just being mildly anal about the documentation of symbol history, I guess. :P [17:14] hehe [17:14] I do find that, with a few rare examples like glibc, Debian symbols file are often one of the better references for "this symbol was added in version $foo". [17:16] http://upstream-tracker.org/ is quite neat [17:17] Laney: Ooo, neat, I've never seen that before. === zequence_ is now known as zequence === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === henrix is now known as henrix_ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [22:49] ScottK: from the OP --> Devon Tourond : Thanks [23:40] phillw: You're welcome. [23:53] well, we don't often get a 'thank you' back from OP's, So I wanted to share that one with you :)