[00:15] <dogmatic69> Azelphur: I got a set of the ~80GPB logitec 5.1 and its not bad.
[00:15] <Azelphur> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-X-540-Multimedia-Speaker-System/dp/B000LBHFMO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359677103&sr=8-1 found these, thoughts?
[00:16] <dogmatic69> I have these on my pc http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/surround-sound-speakers-z506?crid=47
[00:17] <Azelphur> interesting, similar then
[00:17] <Azelphur> reckon they'd be good for surround sound on a tv?
[00:18] <daftykins> main thing you want to look for is being able to take dolby digital _and_ DTS via optical or coaxial digital interfaces
[00:19] <Azelphur> do the X540s do that?
[00:20] <dogmatic69> Azelphur: using pc ones, you should check the cable length. Mine are long, but I dont think its living room long
[00:20] <Azelphur> ah
[00:20] <dogmatic69> maybe 5 / 10m or so
[00:20] <Azelphur> yea, cabling is certainly gonna be interesting
[00:21] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:21] <daftykins> especially as Logitech ones are often hardwired in at least one end
[00:21] <daftykins> so prevent custom cable use
[00:21] <daftykins> unless you can do some kinda extensions
[00:21] <daftykins> i got myself a proper Onkyo AV receiver though last Christmas :>
[00:22] <Azelphur> fun
[00:22] <daftykins> only 'cause Best Buy UK were closing down :D
[00:22] <Azelphur> hehe
[00:22] <dogmatic69> also traditional 5.1 for example uses twin flex. The logitech by comparison is ~ http://i.imgur.com/YCg6O8O.jpg
[00:23] <daftykins> super cheap deal! they refused to ship to the channel islands but a friend helped me out :>
[00:23] <Azelphur> :D
[00:23] <dogmatic69> My wires are all with connectors. iirc they are the same you get for old TV
[00:23] <dogmatic69> RCA or something
[00:23] <daftykins> you'd be surprised how hated we are by UK companies 0o
[00:23] <daftykins> yeah
[00:24] <daftykins> same with my set
[00:24] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Digital-Multimedia-Theatre-Speaker/dp/B0006HBCL8
[00:24] <dogmatic69> but they are a good 7 / 8 mm thick. Thicker than a std iphone charger cable
[00:24] <daftykins> not so cheap XD
[00:25] <Azelphur> yea, pricey
[00:25] <dogmatic69> twin flex on the 5500 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0006HBCL8/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
[00:27] <daftykins> that's actually a strange version shipped in some markets
[00:27] <daftykins> mine has hardwired single feeds that connect into RCA at the sub
[00:27] <daftykins> a friend worked Logitech support until recently, when i mentioned it he hadn't heard of my version before :O
[08:44] <popey> Morning
[08:44] <daubers> Morning
[08:45] <popey> Nexus 4 out for delivery!
[08:45] <daubers> popey: This being turned into an Ubuntu Phone?
[08:46] <popey> well, not yet
[08:47] <daubers> Heh :) Surprises me, knowing your general annoyances with Android
[08:49] <popey> Android has improved, that's for sure
[08:50] <daubers> Absolutley, JB is pretty nice compared to ICS
[08:50] <daubers> Not tried the latest iOS though (or wp8... which I've heard mixed reviews of)
[09:02] <popey> Went to a Unity3D conf thing yesterday. Met the guy behind http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/701664180/cyberstream-fugitive
[09:13] <popey> ali1234: do you have an n900?
[09:27] <directhex> android-1 sucks. android is awesome
[09:27] <directhex> 3 months pass
[09:27] <directhex> android sucks. android+1 is awesome
[09:32] <JamesTait> Happy Friday *and* Happy February, everyone! :-D
[09:33] <Laney> i'd never notice the passing of the year were not not for mailman reminding me
[09:34] <Laney> s/not not/it not/
[09:34] <JamesTait> Yep, that's a whole load of e-mails that are easy to deal with this morning. :)
[10:23] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:52] <popey> bug 1014054
[11:00] <ali1234> popey: yes i have a n900
[11:04] <popey> ali1234: do you still run the original distro on it?
[11:05] <ali1234> popey: yes
[11:06] <ali1234> i haven't used it for ages
[11:06] <ali1234> there's no distro for it that replaces the internal memory anyway
[11:06] <ali1234> everything else boots off SD cards
[11:07] <davmor2> Morning all you funky people and Happy Friday
[11:29] <popey> saw this and thought of bigcalm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QodrSfsboFk
[11:32] <bigcalm> popey: haha!
[11:32] <Paladine> afternoon
[11:36] <davmor2> popey, bigcalm: Wow it sounds that good, I've listened to some but it sounded worse than that :D
[12:25] <Myrtti> new meerkat advert ♥
[12:29] <gord> Myrtti, my special edition arrived :P https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95627817/2013-02-01%2012.25.50.jpg
[12:29] <Myrtti> gord: our normal did as well
[12:30] <gord> the book is awesome https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95627817/2013-02-01%2012.26.53.jpg
[12:31] <popey> http://i.imgur.com/rZFBUCO.gif
[12:33] <Myrtti> oh well, instead of the extended edition, I have NFC thingies to play with
[13:05] <popey> grrr! postie has been teasing me
[13:05] <popey> two parcels have arrived, neither are nexus 4s
[13:05] <brobostigon> :(
[13:08] <popey> they are both nice things tho!
[13:08] <brobostigon> :)
[13:09] <davmor2> popey: you went and bought the super star destroyer and Millennium Falcon uberspecial edition right?
[13:10] <popey> haha, i wish
[13:10] <popey> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digistump/digispark-the-tiny-arduino-enabled-usb-dev-board?ref=live
[13:10] <popey> got a few of them
[13:26] <daubers> popey: What're you intending to do with those?
[13:35] <popey> daubers: not sure yet ☺
[13:35] <popey> cute aren't they?
[13:37] <daubers> They are :) Wondering if they'd fit in an inMoov, but I don't think there's enough pins for what I'm planning
[13:37]  * popey has no idea what an inMoov is
[13:37] <daubers> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:17773
[13:37] <daubers> In the middle of printing that at the moment
[13:38] <popey> golly
[13:38] <daubers> Want to put a light sensor on it, so when someone approaches my desk it swears at them
[13:54] <davmor2> popey: wow those things are tiny
[15:24] <mrnbuntu2> Hi all, i'm having some issues installing Ubuntu, after booting the CD, and about 5 seconds into loading the drivers
[15:25] <mrnbuntu2> The bootup will stall on a message regarding loading the USB
[15:26] <mrnbuntu2> I think this is an issue to do with the motherboard, does anyone have any experience with this?
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> Anyone else found that Skype, if launched by Pidgin, has stopped following status change in Pidgin?
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> Trying to work out if a Skype bug or a Pidgin bug, or a bug elsewhere
[15:41] <davmor2> popey: when you getting one of these http://www.roadkilltshirts.com/DO-OR-DO-NOT-THERE-IS-NO-TRY-T-SHIRT-P13723.aspx
[15:53] <daubers> Hmmm... Apple are going to stop selling Mac Pro's in Europe on Thursday next week
[15:53] <MartijnVdS> yay
[15:54] <popey> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/750308586/stormfly-like-a-pc-on-your-wrist
[15:54] <popey> boggle
[15:54] <popey> usb stick on your wrist
[15:54] <popey> http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/538061226/colorfull_bracelet_USB_3_0.html
[15:55] <MartijnVdS> uh.. yay?
[16:29] <amayer_> you can do that same stuff with a regular usb drive and unet boot
[16:31] <AlanBell> looks like a complete scam
[16:32] <amayer_> idk if its a scam. its just conviniece that you pay for(and a usb braclet)
[16:33] <gord> scam is a bit far, its fashion
[16:34] <amayer_> a 32Gb flash drive is $30US, ubuntu is free, so for $30US(+/-) you can have the same thing without the flashy wristband
[16:35] <popey> its a 16GB one
[16:36] <popey> 8GB for OS, 4GB for /home and 4GB for shared partition
[16:37] <amayer_> is it really? wow 16Gb usb is $10US
[16:38] <popey> thats what their FAQ says
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> at least it's not like Windows tablets.. "64GB" .. 27GB usable
[16:41] <popey> commodore 64 only had 38K usable ☺
[16:41] <popey> oh how we've come such a long way (not)
[16:41] <MartijnVdS> so free space went down, relatively speaking
[16:42] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: well you have to remember that you need a backup of Windows plus the install of windows, plus all the additional crap that windows 8 installs by default whether you want it or not
[16:43] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: yeah but this is _excluding_ office
[16:45] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: yeap but there are about 10-14 additional apps installed by default as in fresh OEM from MS themselves
[17:03] <davmor2> popey, bigcalm: http://www.badideatshirts.com/LEGO-NO-T-SHIRT-P2246.aspx :D
[17:03] <MartijnVdS> hahaha :)
[17:46] <MartijnVdS> heh
[17:46] <MartijnVdS> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/and-so-the-older-male-makes-way-for-a-younger-rival-david-attenborough-reveals-his-choice-of-successor-professor-brian-cox-8474169.html
[17:56] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS:  ♥
[18:10] <alcockell> Hi all..
[18:50] <ali1234> why is my monitor able to display 1048 horizontal lines without blurring/scaling and still have the image fully fit the screen?
[18:50] <ali1234> it's 1920x1200 native res
[18:50] <ali1234> i don't understand this
[18:52] <gord> maybe just doubles some lines?
[19:04] <SuperEngineer> ooo... after a full Bleachbit clean & a full restart - skype suddenly starts following Pidgin status again... hmmm
[19:36] <Myrtti> gord: ohmygowd it's Rhod Gilbert.
[19:38] <gord> Myrtti, i actually switched to the Japanese VA, but i hear the english one is pretty good. normally they choose a southern north american accent for an Osaka accent but going with a welsh accent makes muuuch more sense
[19:38] <solarcloud> Myrtti: Gilbert ? The Guy with the flaming Battenburg Tattoo ??
[19:38] <Myrtti> it sounds like it, or a Scottie
[19:39] <Myrtti> but Rhod Gilbert, yes, Battenberg.
[19:39] <solarcloud> He'd be a good software tester, .... with his insights !
[19:40] <Myrtti> oh, it's the Reg Cattermole from Harry Potter :-D
[19:40] <Myrtti> Steffan Rhodri even :-D
[19:40] <Myrtti> brilliant
[19:40] <solarcloud> soz, never did Harry Potter at school.
[19:41] <Myrtti> ah, but we're talking of a PS3 game called Ni No Kuni, in which a character is talking with Welsh accent
[19:42] <solarcloud> Right, a friend got a PS3 from Tesco, today in fac I just sighed at a ife of proprietory software ahead of him ...
[19:42] <solarcloud> **in fact ...
[19:42] <solarcloud> damn apple keyboard !
[19:46] <gord> Myrtti, once you can access the book, you should know the ingame book is exactly the same as the hardcopy real book i goot, all 300 odd pages of goodness :)
[19:46] <gord> they really put a lot of effort into the whole thing
[19:46] <Myrtti> yeah we just got there
[20:23] <popey> nexus 4 should have been delivered between 9AM and 18:00
[20:23] <popey> ☹
[20:23] <daftykins> is that in the UK?
[20:24] <Laney> couriers are terrible
[20:24] <Laney> DPD slightly less so
[20:24] <daftykins> heh all those little companies have generic people in vans over here to cover their stuff. they're dire
[20:25] <daftykins> a friend discovered they had walked into a completely different house and left her stuff on their kitchen table recently XD
[20:25] <daftykins> to rectify the matter, the person walked back into that open house (nobody home) discovered the partially opened items and took them back O_O
[20:26] <shauno> DPD have been pretty decent here
[20:26] <popey> this is TNT
[20:26] <Laney> at least it's not HDNhell
[20:26] <daftykins> maybe TNT are still getting all the details mixed up like happened before!
[20:27] <daftykins> popey: tried your local depot?
[20:27] <popey> calling them
[20:27] <popey> while making pasta, pesto, chicken & cheese
[20:27] <popey> i r chef
[20:27] <daftykins> ^_^
[20:28] <Azelphur> TNT arrived at my house and gave me the wrong package
[20:28] <Azelphur> didn't realise till I opened
[20:28] <Azelphur> (when I got my Nexus 4, that is)
[20:28] <daftykins> oops!
[20:28] <daftykins> was it someone elses, or something else entirely?
[20:28] <Azelphur> someone elses package
[20:28] <Azelphur> I was just on the phone to TNT when he came back "Did I give you the wrong package?"
[20:29] <daftykins> this is what i get visiting the Play store
[20:29] <daftykins> "Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet."
[20:29] <daftykins> =|
[20:29] <Azelphur> what country you in?
[20:29] <daftykins> island of Guernsey
[20:29] <daftykins> :>
[20:29] <daftykins> so technically still the UK when it suits us
[20:29] <daftykins> blatantly just a GeoIP fail
[20:29] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:30] <daftykins> took me SOOOO long to find a contact feature to complain about it
[20:30] <daftykins> just now trying to find my email from the Google chappy so i can chase him up
[20:30] <popey> hah, so, they are going to deliver today
[20:30] <Azelphur> o.O
[20:30] <popey> apparently this one guy has all the "google stuff" in his van
[20:30] <Azelphur> they don't have long rofl
[20:30] <daftykins> :D
[20:31] <daftykins> hope he's getting overtime
[20:31] <popey> yeah
[20:31] <popey> they implied he was the keen one
[20:31] <daftykins> :D
[20:31] <daftykins> doh can't find this email
[20:32] <Azelphur> only 5 days till my internet finally gets connected
[20:32] <Azelphur> been waiting since november
[20:32] <daftykins> :)
[20:32] <daftykins> 4 days 'til i have a house :O
[20:32] <Azelphur> :O
[20:32] <daftykins> then at some point i too shall have the fun of waiting for tubes :>
[20:32] <daftykins> though i might not rush tbh
[20:33] <daftykins> get far more done in a house when you have none
[20:33]  * Azelphur shrugs
[20:35] <daftykins> cannae find it ;/
[20:37] <daftykins> i give up ;x
[20:37] <daftykins> looks like Google are gonna get away with this one
[20:39] <daftykins> http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy
[20:39] <daftykins> that still blank for you guys too? :)
[20:39] <daftykins> at least there's that 0800 number i suppose
[20:42] <daftykins> solarcloud: can you see the Nexus 4 purchase page?
[20:43] <popey> arrived!
[20:43] <daftykins> ;]
[20:43] <daftykins> go go gadget charging
[20:45] <popey> being reserved, leaving it while i eat ☺
[20:46] <daftykins> just tried their support # but the woman was super quiet
[20:46] <daftykins> could barely hear, so i just gave up ;x
[20:51] <daftykins> SuperMatt's connection has had issues for ages now ;x
[20:51] <daftykins> SuperMatt: what's up with your tubes?
[20:58] <Myrtti> AlanBell: ping
[21:05] <Laney> SOUP Y U NO SIMMER
[21:05] <daftykins> heh
[21:05] <daftykins> food does not comply?
[21:05]  * Laney cranks it up to 11
[21:06] <Laney> gas >>>>>>>>>>>>> electric :(
[21:06] <daftykins> too true
[21:06] <daftykins> when i was cooking on someones electric hob i found the exact right spot was between two numbers
[21:06] <Myrtti> we've got a simmer setting in our microwave ♥
[21:06] <popey> induction > gas
[21:07] <daftykins> i wonder how the sensors work for that 0o
[21:07] <Laney> induction you POSHO
[21:07] <daftykins> some people
[21:07] <daftykins> ;)
[21:07] <popey> I ♥  my induction hob
[21:07] <Myrtti> is Ubuntu UK a member of the O'Reilly User Group programme?
[21:08] <popey> i think in the distant past we were
[21:08] <Myrtti> alright, just wondered
[21:09] <meet> Is there going to be an official vanilla gnome 3 flavour in recent future?
[21:10] <Laney> what does official mean?
[21:10] <meet> Like lubuntu kubuntu.
[21:11] <Laney> I'd imagine so, but within the constraints of Ubuntu it's difficult to be as pure as other GNOME 3 distros
[21:11] <Laney> there already is an Ubuntu GNOME remix btw
[21:12] <meet> Has there been any hint / announcement from canonical?
[21:12] <Laney> I don't imagine they would be very involved; it's a community effort
[21:13] <meet> Ok
[21:14] <AlanBell> hi Myrtti
[21:14] <AlanBell> induction hobs ftw
[21:14] <Myrtti> AlanBell: would you remember the up to date information about the O'Reilly thing?
[21:15] <AlanBell> I don't have any info on that at all
[21:15] <Myrtti> alright
[21:15] <Myrtti> just wondered
[21:21] <daubers> AlanBell: o/
[21:21] <AlanBell> o/
[21:21] <AlanBell> nice hand daubers
[21:21] <daubers> AlanBell: Still lots to print
[21:22] <daubers> AlanBell: Are you aware that Rdg Hackspace are looking into setting up a coworking space?
[21:22] <daftykins> hrmm, is 0800 free on Skype 0o
[21:22] <AlanBell> interesting, no I wasn't
[21:23] <daubers> There might be some problems relating to being registered in a certain way (we're not supposed to make profit) but if we can overcome that then that's the aim
[21:24] <AlanBell> got any info on it?
[21:24] <AlanBell> why are you not supposed to make a profit?
[21:24] <AlanBell> nfp can carry forward a surplus
[21:24] <daubers> There isn't much yet.... We're not supposed to make a profit because we're a company limited by guarentee (or something) and the landlords rules state we get a discount on the rent as long as we're not profit making
[21:25] <Paladine> daftykins, I dont think so
[21:25] <Paladine> but I get free international anyway so I can't confirm
[21:25] <daubers> AlanBell: People cleverer than me are looking into that bit anyway
[21:25] <AlanBell> fair enough
[21:26] <daubers> Thought you'd be interested as you where pushing it for surrey and hampshire
[21:27] <AlanBell> well I was pushing against it in the end :)
[21:27] <AlanBell> had to do a bit of a big ragequit to make sure nobody got hurt
[21:28] <daubers> heh :)
[21:30] <bigcalm_laptop> Hoi hoi
[21:35] <daftykins> Paladine: seems i didn't get charged anything! thanks anywho :)
[21:56] <Paladine> np
[22:17] <daftykins> Paladine: i called your pals at Google support to ask them to unblock the channel islands from being allowed to buy Nexus devices ;)
[22:17] <Paladine> how did that go?
[22:18] <daftykins> Paladine: i got asked if i'd tried another browser :D
[22:19] <Paladine> hahah
[22:19] <daftykins> when i said it failed on several, she quickly understood it was a problem with the website and not me
[22:19] <daftykins> BINGO \o/
[22:19] <Paladine> you seen this http://www.googlelawsuit.co.uk/
[22:19] <daftykins> i tried to mention geoIP but that kinda got ignored ;D
[22:19] <daftykins> ooh it has its' own site now
[22:20] <daftykins> your site no less!?
[22:20] <daftykins> :>
[22:21] <daftykins> it's ok though they're only Apple users ;)
[22:22] <Paladine> yeah my site
[22:23] <Paladine> been working on it all week, launched yesterday
[22:23] <Paladine> still tweaking a few things and adding some more features
[22:23] <daftykins> :)
[22:23] <Paladine> the press page will get tackled tomorrow and made to look pretty
[22:23] <daftykins> who're you hosting with? i've gotta look into hosting for someone soon
[22:23] <Paladine> I have my own servers
[22:24] <Paladine> 2 in different data centres
[22:24] <Paladine> I use my leaseweb server for email and I can't remember name of other provider gimmie a sec
[22:25] <Paladine> WorldStream
[22:26] <daftykins> ah Dutch?
[22:29] <Paladine> yeah
[22:29] <Paladine> anyways I am going to bed, laters
[22:33] <n1md4> is there a minimal desktop ubuntu distro?
[22:33] <solarcloud> daftykins: I can see the Nexus 4 shop page,to answer your question from earlier, However, when I click on the it says it's not available yet ... To be exact ... " Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
[22:33] <solarcloud> We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
[22:33] <solarcloud> Please check back again soon.
[22:33] <solarcloud> "
[22:33] <solarcloud> soz for the flood.
[22:33] <daftykins> solarcloud: yeah i get that here too :) thanks
[22:34] <daftykins> i contacted support just now to get Guernsey 'allowed'
[22:34] <daftykins> bit harsh they block you too
[22:34] <solarcloud> strange isn't it ?
[22:34] <daftykins> yeah :(
[22:34] <daftykins> i sense it's by intention
[22:34] <daftykins> geoIP is blocking our islands
[22:36] <solarcloud> I have chosen a song to explempify (is that even a word ?) http://open.spotify.com/track/4V7bxkj5BJDnoVMvTHaLkQ
[22:43] <daftykins> exemplify, ja
[22:44] <daftykins> though i don't use spotify
[22:44] <daftykins> ^_^
[22:46] <Azelphur> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvYrv2s9Kk this is cool o.O
[22:47] <solarcloud> daftykins: yeah, there's too much background noise where I am , So I have wireless closed loop expensive headphones on my head 90% of my day-time... Spotify is just a killer application and the £5 a month is nothing compared to the quality of it.
[22:48] <daftykins> what's so noisy where you are?
[22:48] <daftykins> shaky cam is shaky
[22:48] <daftykins> Azelphur: shame those milk the battery :D
[22:49] <solarcloud> just background noise from other in the aparttments etc .. it doesn't affect me.
[22:49] <Azelphur> hehe
[22:49] <daftykins> ah
[22:58]  * awilkins has just discovered that his version of Windows doesn't have an RDP server
[22:59]  * awilkins is not surprised but is annoyed
[22:59] <daftykins> :O
[22:59] <daftykins> win7 home?
[22:59] <daftykins> or older
[23:00] <daftykins> awilkins: ?
[23:05] <awilkins> Win7 Home Premium
[23:05] <daftykins> i'll bet there are guides out there to hack it on
[23:06] <awilkins> There are
[23:07] <awilkins> Meh
[23:30] <dwatkins> awjust run it in virtualbox, that'll give you an RDP front-end ;)
[23:30] <dwatkins> oops, awilkins left
[23:31] <daftykins> dwatkins: doh hate it when that happens
[23:35] <dwatkins> yeah, I don't have enough room in my terminal for a user list ;)
[23:36] <daftykins> when i first moved to irssi i found i didn't miss the nick list
[23:36] <daftykins> just a waste of valuable real estate!
[23:36] <daftykins> aka MAH PIXELZ!!!
[23:49] <daftykins> any of you guys still use bitfolk VPS's?