[00:40] <Blazeix> rick_h_: snap-l widox any thoughts on http://files.fuqua.io/upload/royaloak.coffeehousecoders.com/
[00:40] <Blazeix> or anybody else who wants to give feedback :)
[00:42] <brousch1> Needs more rounded corners and bootstrap
[00:42] <brousch1> I like the cup
[00:54] <Blazeix> probably one of those 'share this on one of 27 different social networks' buttons, too
[00:54] <Blazeix> and an amazon affiliate link
[01:07] <Blazeix> argh, why do browsers not support svg favicons
[01:10] <Blazeix> hm, i guess svg can include js, i suppose that's why.
[01:27] <jhansonxi> brousch1: I thought Apple patented rounded corners.
[01:46] <widox> Blazeix: ooh, green :)
[01:47] <widox> and, the coffee cup is correctly in the top right corner
[01:52] <widox> heh, they added a dropdown thing on the node app for the different editions: selecting ours is funny http://annarbor.coffeehousecoders.com/
[02:49] <Blazeix> widox: yeah, pretty funny. maybe i can add a pretend twitter bootstrap header to increase consistency :D
[02:59] <Blazeix> which one do people like better? http://files.fuqua.io/upload/chc/
[02:59] <Blazeix> (coffeecup logo)
[03:00] <Blazeix> the whole coffee-cup-that-looks-like-a-laptop concept is growing on me
[03:03] <widox> I'm leaning more towards the left one
[03:03] <widox> what about making the border thinner on the right one?
[03:07] <Blazeix> ok, i think i'll go with the one on the left, thanks
[03:07] <Blazeix> if you refresh i added one with a thinner border, but i don't think it turned out well
[03:12] <widox> I dunno, not that bad. maybe the handle is a bit thick now though
[03:19] <snap-l> blasI'm a little partial to the blue colorscheme
[03:19] <snap-l> but it's quite nice.
[03:20] <snap-l> Blazeix: ^^
[03:20] <Blazeix> widox: made the handle a bit thinner
[03:21] <Blazeix> snap-l: yeah, i'm a fan of blue too, but we need to CHC-ize it a bit
[03:21] <Blazeix> luckily there are only two rgb values that need to be changed, so we can easily tweak to our heart's content
[03:22] <Blazeix> hm, maybe the handle is _too_ thin now...
[03:22] <Blazeix> i might just say screw it, graphics are hard, i'm using the one on the left :)
[03:24] <snap-l> heh
[03:24] <snap-l> I don't think the SVG is that bad
[03:25] <snap-l> It works. Gives it a 1950s diner geel
[03:25] <snap-l> feel, even
[03:28] <widox> Blazeix: whatever floats your boat, I like the right-most one though
[03:28] <Blazeix> ooh, drama
[03:28] <Blazeix> :P
[03:28] <widox> ;)
[04:20] <Blazeix> widox: ended up going with the right-most one, btw
[12:02] <rick_h_> thanks Blazeix !
[12:34] <rick_h_> http://xkcd.com/1168/ so so good
[13:29] <rick_h_> scary thought of the day http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/30/rubygems-org-hacked-interrupting-heroku-services-and-putting-millions-of-sites-using-rails-at-risk/
[13:29] <rick_h_> and TGIF
[14:04] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:05] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, and deploying from github is an AWESOME idea
[14:05] <snap-l> let's do more of that.
[14:05] <rick_h_> yea, I need to update bookie to use a dl cache :)
[14:05] <snap-l> It's python. It's not succeptible to stupidity. ;)
[14:06]  * snap-l (knows he will eat those words someday)
[14:06] <rick_h_> I would rather have the wiki attacked vs pypi
[14:07] <brousch> eh?
[14:07] <rick_h_> 13:29  rick_h_- scary thought of the day
[14:07] <rick_h_> http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/30/rubygems-org-hacked-interrupting-heroku-services-and-putting-millions-of-sites-using-rails-at-risk/
[14:07] <jjesse> brousch, your son feeling better today?
[14:07] <brousch> No. We're all miserable
[14:08] <brousch> rick_h_: Oh man. That sucks
[14:08] <jjesse> that sucks sorry
[14:08] <snap-l> brousch: Ugh, sorry to hear that.
[14:08] <brousch> Sinus infections for everyone!
[14:09] <brousch> I took the real pseudoephedrine this morning to get through some work. It's giving me the sweats and heart palpitations
[14:10] <rick_h_> yea, that stuff messes with me too.
[14:11] <brousch> There's one more powerful weapon, Afrin. It clears me completely for 2 hours and 15 minutes, and tehn it is like the Goblin King is sitting on my face
[14:20] <snap-l> And that's an image I didn't need to have this morning
[14:21] <brousch> You're welcome
[15:38] <snap-l> USN-1696-1 fixed vulnerabilities in the Linux kernel. Due to an unrelated
[15:38] <snap-l> regression inotify/fanotify stopped working after upgrading. This update
[15:38] <snap-l> fixes the problem.
[15:38] <snap-l> That might explain the dropbox issue
[15:41] <rick_h_> coolio
[16:18] <snap-l> Well, I fucked up
[16:18] <rick_h_> oops
[16:19] <snap-l> Apparently the Ting ETF thing was by reservation
[16:19] <rick_h_> did you volunteer for something?
[16:19] <greg-g> ETF?
[16:19] <snap-l> and the reservations were gone in 8 miunutes
[16:19] <snap-l> Early Terminiation Fee
[16:19] <snap-l> ie: I could have registered the phone two weeks ago for the same results.
[16:19] <snap-l> And I should have read more carefully.
[16:20] <greg-g> oh sad
[16:20] <greg-g> sorry man
[16:20] <snap-l> Yeah, no worries
[16:20] <snap-l> Not surprised it was gone in 8 minutes
[16:21] <snap-l> just wish I could have saved the cost.
[16:21] <greg-g> $10,000 isn't a ton, I suppose
[16:21] <snap-l> Oh well.
[16:21]  * greg-g nods
[16:22] <rick_h_> what's your ETF then?
[16:22] <brousch> snap-l: I was skeptical of that offer. It would've cost them a fortune
[16:23] <greg-g> well, they limited it to a set amount, but yeah, addes up quickly when it's ~$200/pop
[16:23] <snap-l> Well, it would have been a little nicer had they said it was essentially first-come-first-served and required you to be online at midnight
[16:24] <snap-l> I wouldn't have waited.
[16:24]  * greg-g nods
[16:24] <snap-l> I'm in the same boat as before, but I would have had the phone activated sooner, not later.
[16:24] <snap-l> That's the part that stings
[16:25] <snap-l> I've had two extra weeks of Verizon
[16:25] <brousch> And an awesome hone collecting dust
[16:25] <brousch> phone too
[16:25] <brousch> Write them a strongly-worded letter
[16:25] <rick_h_> well hook it up and use it on wifi
[16:25] <rick_h_> access point up your other phone :P
[16:28] <snap-l> I'm done worrying about it
[16:30] <greg-g> good
[16:37] <jcastro> buenas mornings
[16:38] <rick_h_> TGIF!
[16:38] <greg-g> :)
[17:11] <rick_h_> got your back jrwren :) we keep a download-cache bzr repo that's just the .tar.gz of python deps
[17:11] <rick_h_> deploy is bzr branch download-cache and install from there
[17:12] <rick_h_> makes for nice static versioning and preventing pypi network issues nicely. Just need to get time to change my apps to do that myself
[17:12] <jrwren> ok, i kinda see what you mean.
[17:12] <jrwren> I need to some up with something like that.
[17:12] <rick_h_> so if you look in that makefile right before that line I linked you to it makes sure download-cache is up to date and if not does a bzr pull
[17:12] <jrwren> is it as simple as create a venv, version it in git, move that venv around with git clone/push and make more venvs by pointing pip to that original venv?
[17:13] <rick_h_> no no no
[17:13] <rick_h_> don't try to remove the venv, always rebuild it
[17:13] <jrwren> so, mirror the pypi source that I need.
[17:13] <rick_h_> create venv, bzr branch download-cache, run pip install -r requirements pointed at download-cache
[17:14] <rick_h_> right, download-cache is a mirror of the packages and versions we need
[17:14] <jrwren> right, so download-cache is your pypi (and ohter) mirror
[17:14] <rick_h_> right
[17:14] <rick_h_> pip supports installing from a local fs directory
[17:14] <rick_h_> we just point pip at that directory with a bunch of flags to say "don't you dare ask the internet for anything"
[17:15] <jrwren> need this.
[17:15] <rick_h_> but it means any new dep has to be first added to the download cache, checked in, and pushed up
[17:15] <jrwren> great for dep mgmt
[17:15] <rick_h_> rgr
[17:15] <jrwren> don't get a new version of pkg unless you really need it.
[17:15] <rick_h_> our production required no internet access deploys
[17:15] <jrwren> although I guess requirements.txt does that too
[17:16] <rick_h_> right, requirements.txt helps since everything must be version pinned
[17:16] <rick_h_> well, must be according to our standard practice
[17:16] <rick_h_> but yea, we can hand production our app and our download-cache as tarballs for deploy
[17:16] <rick_h_> I've got node packages in the download cache as well
[17:17] <rick_h_> see the npm lines below the one I linked you to
[17:18] <jrwren> *nod*
[17:18] <jrwren> we dont' do any node production
[17:18] <rick_h_> yea, this is just to build the css/less files on build
[17:19] <jrwren> ah. good call
[17:19] <rick_h_> but better than checking in both the dev/build files
[17:19] <jrwren> *nod*
[17:19] <rick_h_> but Makefile magic ftw :)
[17:20] <jrwren> its not really magic.
[17:20] <jrwren> what I would like is something to manage the download cache for me.
[17:20] <jrwren> I could probably hack pip to do it
[17:38] <rick_h_> ugh, starting to feel bad for the rails kids https://twitter.com/niallohiggins/status/297397819206160385
[17:46] <widox> rick_h_: because that's a non-rails app??
[17:54] <rick_h_> widox: just that 'it's not rails' is turning into a big selling point
[17:54] <rick_h_> especially because the travisci folks are good folks
[17:54] <rick_h_> always done free OSS builds and been building up in a good way
[18:00] <widox> gotcha
[18:00] <widox> yeah, that project is definitely a good thing
[18:02] <rick_h_> Good news! Your Pebble is almost ready to ship. Please double
[18:02] <rick_h_> check your shipping address in the Pebble Account system.
[18:02] <rick_h_> woot!
[18:04] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/17ogyo/xkcd_tar/c87hsre
[18:04] <jcastro> it's comments like this
[18:04] <jcastro> this is why I love reddit
[18:04] <rick_h_> lol
[18:05] <rick_h_> love the follow up with all the other examples
[18:09] <snap-l> I don't find the tar mnemonics that hard to remember.
[18:14] <greg-g> rick_h_: odd question that I might be made fun of for: you ever looked into dash covers for your subaru?
[18:14] <greg-g> the dash right above my glove compartment is starting to crack from the sun
[18:14] <rick_h_> no, never have
[18:15] <rick_h_> :(
[18:15] <snap-l> greg-g: That's a common problem in climates where sunlight happens
[18:16] <snap-l> Happens to all cars
[18:16] <snap-l> sunlight dries out the plastic, and causes it to crack
[18:16] <brousch> Going to get a car bra too?
[18:16] <rick_h_> yea, have to keep the armor all on it
[18:16] <snap-l> brousch: Gotta hold up those headlights.
[18:16] <snap-l> (hi-beams)
[18:18] <brousch> hawt
[18:19] <jrwren> i don't have the tar issue either.
[18:21] <greg-g> brousch: :P no, but my dad got me one of those headlight polishers since he noticed they were a bit foggy/oxidized
[18:22] <greg-g> wouldn't mind a bug deflector, I like how that looked on my Ranger (and was fun to install, drilling into my hood)
[18:30] <jcastro> greg-g: you don't have a windshield cardboard thing out there? Man that's like rule #1 in california for me
[18:30] <greg-g> yeah, should :/
[18:40] <dzho> I like the ones with fabric in the middle and memory wire of some kind on the periphery
[18:41] <dzho> my wife can't usually be bothered to try to make them fold up though :(
[18:58] <greg-g> ordered one
[19:33] <rick_h_> man I love tests
[19:34] <rick_h_> "wtf am I doing? Well I want this code to work..." put it in a test and watch it blow up, then make that code work
[23:36] <jcastro> snap-l: PAGING CRAIG
[23:39] <rick_h_> lol