[05:01] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos to wake up and smell the daisies - it's a beautiful day
[05:02] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:21] <barrydk> good morning everyone
[05:33] <Kilos> hehehe morning superfly and others
[05:33] <Kilos> been trying to get nm to see modem on kde and upgrading maverick on old p4
[05:34] <mazal> More oom
[05:34] <mazal> My email gekry ?
[05:34] <Kilos> hi mazal hoe gaan dit daar?
[05:34] <mazal> Raasie baie nie dankie en self ?
[05:34] <Kilos> ja dankie. het gewonder waar was julle
[05:35] <Kilos> hmm... lewe gaan maar aan
[05:35] <mazal> Oom ek het kwaai projek uitgedink
[05:35] <Kilos> vertel
[05:35] <mazal> Dit gaan te goed met my huis pc , het gedink om maar terug te gaan na Win 7 toe
[05:36] <mazal> Is boring as als werk die heel tyd
[05:36] <Kilos> ai!!!!!
[05:36] <Kilos> speel met kde dan
[05:36] <barrydk> Nee dis ok mos maar linux so sal seker ook net werk
[05:37] <Kilos> ja maar dis die plan
[05:37] <Kilos> ons het n nuwe man gekry van limpopo
[05:37] <mazal> Had loads of ISP trouble last night AGAIN
[05:37] <Kilos> netwerk admin
[05:37] <barrydk> Dit gaan so goed met ubuntu ons moet net keer of dit gaan beter
[05:37] <Kilos> ai! mtn?
[05:37] <mazal> Nah , axxess
[05:38] <mazal> Once again couldn't log in
[05:38] <mazal> So couldn't use my last data :(
[05:38] <mazal> I wanted to DL 13.04 and tried to get into the beta thing , but alas
[05:38] <Kilos> aw that sucks. its too expensive to waste
[05:39] <mazal> It happens frequently these days that I can't authenticate
[05:39] <mazal> Very irritating
[05:39] <Kilos> if/when we get a debdelta server i will also go with a daily build
[05:39] <Kilos> where does it work through
[05:41] <Kilos> this is a happy 2+1 day for me again. only lost 30m
[05:41] <mazal> 2+1 ?
[05:41] <Kilos> was too poegaai to find something that size to download
[05:42] <Kilos> 8ta promotion
[05:42] <Kilos> 2g all hours and 1g night surfer
[05:42] <Kilos> R146
[05:42] <mazal> ah ok
[05:43] <Kilos> you have cable dont you
[05:43] <mazal> No signal , have tested it a while back
[05:45] <Kilos> you must fone them and hear what they are doing in that area
[05:45] <Kilos> they piggy back with mtn
[05:45] <Kilos> put their sender/receiver on the mtn tower
[05:46] <Kilos> whew we are min here today again
[05:47] <Kilos> Squirm, whats happening? you home yet?
[05:47] <Squirm> Sunday
[05:47] <Kilos> ah
[05:48] <Kilos> tired fingers again
[05:48] <Squirm> yeah, my sister is swimming in pta this weekend, so will be watching
[05:48] <Kilos> great
[05:48] <Kilos> and chearing
[05:48] <Kilos> cheering
[05:51] <Kilos> new kernel day today
[05:51] <Kilos> nuvolari, ping
[05:56] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[05:56] <Kilos> need to reboot here
[05:56] <barrydk> Hi again
[05:56] <Kilos> wbb
[05:56] <Kilos> lol
[06:02] <barrydk> Hello Kilos 
[06:02] <Kilos> barrydk, hi again
[06:02] <Kilos> hehe
[06:03] <Kilos> morning not_found 
[06:48] <Vince-0> Hiho
[06:49] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 Tonberry 
[06:49] <Tonberry> hello
[06:59]  * staticrat says good morning
[06:59] <Vince-0> Work work for the weekend
[07:08] <staticrat> oh my....now who thought up all the swear word for maaz?
[07:08] <Kilos> hi henkj staticrat 
[07:08] <staticrat> hi kilos
[07:08] <Kilos> eek
[07:08] <staticrat> jy?
[07:08] <Kilos> some bad guy
[07:08] <Kilos> nee ek is n soet seun
[07:09] <staticrat> there are some words there i did not know existed LOL
[07:09] <Kilos> haha me too was kinda shocked
[07:09] <Kilos> mazal, here is a networking guy
[07:09] <Kilos> staticrat, meet mazal 
[07:09] <staticrat> hi mazal how u doing
[07:10] <Kilos> dunno how busy they are there
[07:10] <staticrat> no worries 
[07:10] <Kilos> he struggled with axxess
[07:10] <Kilos> whatever that might be
[07:11] <staticrat> ISP company
[07:11] <staticrat> :)
[07:11] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:12] <jrgns> morning Kilos, all
[07:12] <Kilos> naand inetpro :-)
[07:12] <Kilos> whew hard work these smileys
[07:16] <henkj> hi kilos
[07:17] <Kilos> staticrat, did you learn some LPI
[07:18] <staticrat> yeah started with the doc last night
[07:19] <staticrat> very useful book, think at the end of it I might pass as a competent linux user 
[07:19] <Kilos> good
[07:21] <inetpro> eh, goeie middage Kilos
[07:24] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:24] <inetpro> lyk my Kilos het eers gaan kyk of hy daisies kan vind op sy landskap
[07:24] <inetpro> goeie more almal
[07:25] <Kilos> lmga
[07:28] <staticrat> more inetpro
[07:29] <Kilos> ons het net baie jacob regops met min reuk
[07:34] <inetpro> hi staticrat
[07:34] <staticrat> how you doing today
[07:39] <Kilos> not_found, is really lost methinks
[08:37] <barrydk> escom escom
[08:37] <Kilos> ai!
[09:00] <inetpro> barrydk: escom or city council?
[09:01] <inetpro> BTW it is not Escom but Eskom
[09:03] <Trixar_za> I see Adobe brought Cool Edit Pro
[09:03] <Trixar_za> It's now called Adobe Audition
[09:03] <Kilos> iges
[09:03] <Trixar_za> Atleast the free version isn't crippleware anymore, but an expiring shareware
[09:04] <Trixar_za> The type of stuff I check up on :P
[09:05] <Trixar_za> Adobe is taking over quite a lot of specialized software development
[09:12] <staticrat> maaz is google.com down
[09:14] <staticrat> wake up maaz
[09:14] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[09:14] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[09:20] <Trixar_za> Well Audacity is pretty huge
[09:20] <Trixar_za> Yeah, I'll rather go with the free alternative now since it supports so many plugins
[09:20] <Trixar_za> :P
[09:20] <Trixar_za> pretty huge plugin support wise I mean
[09:20] <Trixar_za> :P
[09:21] <Trixar_za> Now to teach somebody how to make a record into an mp3
[09:22] <Kilos> whew
[09:22] <Kilos> 7 single
[09:55] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:55] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:00] <magespawn> cable sorting today, what sup there?
[10:01] <Kilos> not much diffs from other days but got new 2+1 this morning and new kernel upgrade for unity and updated/upgraded maverick so all good
[10:08] <magespawn> thats cool fresh data
[10:13] <Kilos> yeah
[10:39] <magespawn> having lots of rain here lately
[10:40] <Kilos> enjoy
[10:41] <magespawn> makes everything wet (big surprise there) and muddy, and tends to dampen business
[10:42] <Kilos> lol
[10:42] <magespawn> anybody got recommendations for a good blog or site to follow via rss?
[10:44] <Kilos> what kinda blog you looking for magespawn 
[10:45] <Kilos> the pro follows some good ones
[10:48] <magespawn> anything tech or techish but the feed must be a full feed not just intro etc
[10:48] <Kilos> im sure the pro will come up with something for you
[10:48] <Kilos> or the fly
[10:50] <magespawn> cool i find it is a nice way to stay up to date
[10:50] <Kilos> you missed the wriing apps for ubuntu class hey
[10:51] <inetpro> sjoe magespawn
[10:51] <inetpro> there are so many out there
[10:51] <inetpro> all depends on what you want to read
[10:52] <magespawn> there are logs and such i think
[10:52] <magespawn> sjoe?
[10:52] <inetpro> actually there's way to much to read out there
[10:55] <magespawn> thats what I find too but currently i read thins like lifehacker, techdirt, ideate,hack a day, groklaw, smashing magazine, from the canyon edge, lets talk geek(podcast)
[10:55] <magespawn> and a few others 
[10:55] <magespawn> anything techish or educational, general news etc
[10:56] <inetpro> magespawn: check http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[10:56] <magespawn> wilco
[10:58] <inetpro> or http://www.planetkde.org/
[10:59] <Kilos> eek quickly with dependancies is huge
[10:59] <Kilos> 83 meg downloads
[10:59] <Kilos> magespawn, will mail you the class lecture
[10:59] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[11:01] <magespawn> do ssd drives work with the same way as flash drives?
[11:06] <Kilos> they too expensive to even try
[11:07] <Kilos> but must be fast
[11:07] <Kilos> no moving parts
[11:08] <tonberryE352> same basic concept as a flash drive but much nicer controller and faster flash memory
[11:12] <magespawn> tonberryE352: but with the same sort of limit on read/writes?
[11:12] <magespawn> got the mail ty Kilos
[11:12] <tonberryE352> the write limit is usually specified somewhere
[11:13] <Kilos> yw magespawn was an interesting class
[11:13] <tonberryE352> no read limit that I know of
[11:13] <magespawn> hmm will have to look into that
[11:13] <Kilos> looks a bit easier than vim
[11:13] <tonberryE352> also ssds usually have more space than it makes available for wear leveling and replacing unwriteable parts
[11:18] <tonberryE352> oh and after your first ssd you will want to replace every os drive with one
[11:18] <tonberryE352> expensive hobby
[11:21] <magespawn> isn't everything to do with pc's?
[11:53] <magespawn> later all gotta go get fish
[12:44]  * staticrat waves hello
[12:47] <Kilos> wb staticrat 
[12:49] <staticrat> thx
[12:50] <mazal> bye guys
[12:50] <mazal> Enjoy your evening
[12:50] <Kilos> toods mazal 
[12:50] <Kilos> fix your axxess thing
[12:50] <Kilos> grrr
[13:01] <staticrat> i love my job
[13:02] <staticrat> makes me feel smarter than the average user
[13:12] <Kilos> lol
[13:12] <Kilos> at least you are moving forward now
[13:12] <Kilos> at last
[13:14] <staticrat> oh and I was stuck?
[13:14] <staticrat> :)
[13:15] <Kilos> oh yes stuck in the ms groove
[13:15] <Kilos> and always dodging virii and malware and that stuff
[13:17] <staticrat> ya that is another subject
[13:17] <staticrat> why is MS so easy to infect
[13:18] <Kilos> bad design
[13:19]  * staticrat thinks bill gates secretly uses ubuntu to get things done
[13:20] <Kilos> you can sudo aptitude install gufw
[13:20] <staticrat> what is gufw?
[13:21] <Kilos> graphic firewall
[13:21] <Kilos> ufw is no graphic
[13:21] <inetpro> aptitude show gufw
[13:22] <staticrat> i will go and research it before install, thx
[13:23] <Kilos> you can see it in synaptic as well
[13:23] <staticrat> i will go and research it before install, thx
[13:23] <Kilos> lol
[13:23] <staticrat> oops
[13:23] <staticrat> uh how did that happen
[13:23] <Kilos> ?
[13:24] <staticrat> same sentence twice
[13:24] <staticrat> uh...must have press the up arrow
[13:24] <staticrat> anyway
[13:24] <Kilos> i thought you were stressing your view
[13:24] <Kilos> hehe
[13:24] <staticrat> lol
[13:24] <Kilos> too long on ms
[13:25] <staticrat> yeah ok ... give me some time I will catch up with you okes
[13:25] <Kilos> dont worry in other ways you are ahead
[13:26] <staticrat> cool
[13:26] <staticrat> for now I must leave you fine people
[13:27] <staticrat> my weekend is about the get started
[13:27] <Kilos> go well lad
[13:27]  * staticrat says have a great weekend to all and see you all soon
[13:27] <Kilos> enjoy
[13:27] <Kilos> we are always here
[13:28] <staticrat> cool
[13:28] <staticrat> cheers kilos and everyone else
[13:28] <Kilos> cheers staticrat 
[14:17] <magespawn> hey Kilos and room
[14:18] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[14:19] <Kilos> no one said niks here today
[14:20] <Kilos> just you the rat trix and i
[14:20] <Kilos> superfly, you still winning??
[14:20] <superfly> Kilos: it depends on what I'm supposed to be winning against (or with)
[14:20] <Kilos> oh the squirmy one too
[14:21] <Kilos> lol with whatever you are doing superfly 
[14:48] <Kilos> i think i gonna fight kde to see my modem this weekend
[15:08] <magespawn> you mean nm Kilos?
[15:11] <Kilos> ya that stupid thing
[15:11] <Kilos> the 12.04 weakpoint
[15:12] <Kilos> i did it before first time with kde but that was installed with winsucks then i did clean install and used sakis3g since then
[15:12] <Kilos> forgot how i got it to see modem
[15:13] <Kilos> maybe modprobe or something
[15:21] <superfly> Kilos: these days most modems just work, so try just plugging it in first 
[15:23] <Kilos> i have many times in all ports superfly . remember this was that saudi arabia modem
[15:23] <Kilos> alcatel
[15:24] <superfly> right
[15:38] <Kilos> the strange part is that maverick and before saw it without probs
[15:40] <Kilos> so the later nm and modem manager arent as efficient
[15:52] <superfly> Kilos: you and hardware aren't the best of friends
[15:53] <Kilos> lol yeah never have been thats why im saving up for a new mboard ram and cpu
[15:53] <Kilos> will get there where everything just works one day
[15:54] <Kilos> but maverick i can install and everything works
[15:54] <Kilos> saw a new thing in synaptic today as well
[15:54] <Kilos> ssvnc
[15:54] <Kilos> will get to that too some time
[15:56] <Kilos> lo Trixar_za 
[15:57] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[15:58] <Kilos> is manganese bad to drink in tap water
[15:58] <Kilos> i see the pro posted it on twitter that its in pta tap water
[15:59] <inetpro> uh
[15:59] <confluency> If there's too much of it, yes.
[16:00] <inetpro> Kilos: we definitely had it by us
[16:00] <inetpro> stains all teh clothing and all
[16:00] <inetpro> the*
[16:00] <inetpro> not nice!
[16:01] <inetpro> but the worst was to see the color of the water on Sunday evening
[16:01] <inetpro> thought I was dreaming
[16:01] <inetpro> was very green
[16:02]  * inetpro noticed it very clearly in the toilet bowl
[16:02] <inetpro> thought my wife gave us funny stuff to eat
[16:02] <Kilos> eeek
[16:03] <Kilos> dont you use borehole water inetpro 
[16:03] <inetpro> Kilos: why not?
[16:03] <Kilos> we dont touch any towns water
[16:03] <Kilos> sis and swaar take water to work with them
[16:04] <inetpro> well I don't but think it should be ok by my side just below the mountain
[16:04] <Kilos> i thought you got a borehole
[16:04] <inetpro> Kilos: what I mean is that we don't drink our borehole water
[16:04] <Kilos> isnt it a good supply?
[16:05] <Kilos> aw
[16:05] <Kilos> why have you had it tested
[16:05] <inetpro> looks very clean, but I prefer to be careful
[16:05] <Kilos> no man
[16:05] <inetpro> should actually test it
[16:05] <Kilos> drink some on a friday evening so if you get sick you better by monday
[16:05] <Kilos> hehe
[16:05] <inetpro> :-)
[16:06] <inetpro> Kilos: where can I test the water?
[16:06] <Kilos> no pollution 50 metres under the ground
[16:06] <Kilos> whew one of the labs or even try pta water peeps
[16:06]  * inetpro should find out
[16:07] <inetpro> wonder how much you pay for testing
[16:07] <Kilos> sis se vra by n apteek hulle sal weet
[16:07] <inetpro> ahh, good idea
[16:07] <Kilos> en swaar se csir ocsir as well
[16:09] <Kilos> of csir
[16:09] <Kilos> dit lyk verkeerd
[16:09]  * not_found lurks in the shadows
[16:09] <Kilos> inetpro, 
[16:09] <Kilos> http://www.csir.co.za/environmental_testing/water.html
[16:10] <Kilos> google is your friend
[16:10] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh great
[16:10] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[16:10] <not_found> hiya uncle Kilos 
[16:10] <inetpro> not_found: go find yourself then come back out of those shadows
[16:10] <Kilos> whats with the lurking bit
[16:10] <Kilos> lol
[16:11] <Kilos> ive greeted you twice today
[16:11] <Kilos> drunk on camel juice again?
[16:12]  * not_found just got home so greeting me was kind of pointless
[16:13]  * inetpro wbbl
[16:13] <Kilos> ah well i couldnt smell so far
[16:14] <not_found> old age dulling the senses I see ;)
[16:14] <Kilos> you supposed to put up a gone fishing message
[16:14] <Kilos> hehe cheeky too
[16:15] <not_found> :p
[16:50] <not_found> night
[16:51] <Kilos> night neelsie
[16:51] <Kilos> sleep tight
[16:53] <magespawn> home time later all
[16:53] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[17:43] <Kilos> aw missed him
[18:17] <Kilos> goooosie!!
[18:18] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[18:18] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[18:18] <Kilos> 8ta are investigating and will contact me about speeding up the connection
[18:19] <Kilos> will let you know what they /do/findf
[18:19] <Kilos> ai find
[18:40] <Kilos> night all , sleep lekker
[19:13] <zeref> whoah!
[19:22] <smile> :p
[19:31] <smile> good night :D
[20:05] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[20:06] <Kilos> has he been back tonight superfly ?
[20:06] <superfly> huh?
[20:06] <superfly> oh, no.
[20:06] <Kilos> ai ty
[20:07] <Kilos> sis heard a report on radio that pta peeps mustnt drink or cook with town water
[20:07] <Kilos> 4 heavy metals found in it
[20:07] <Kilos> mercury is one
[20:12] <Kilos> superfly, please tell him he can have his borehole water tested at pathologists at hospitals as well
[20:12] <Kilos> i gonna sleep
[20:12] <Kilos> night and ty
[20:13] <superfly> night
[21:12] <inetpro> good evenin
[21:14] <inetpro> eish! Looks like our water is a big problemo