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dorohorodont wory i will try on some other folder which i dont use like picture00:00
dorohoropictures00:00
kunjidorohoro: It's working for me with the same icon as far as Nautilus is concerned, is there some other app that uses the icon that you would like me to try?  Though in /home, it uses the Music icon, but knows it's a symlink and adds the link arrow thing.00:01
dorohorook th that all i need00:02
yusufHi everyone, I've got a problem with my Ubuntu, I can't find Hardware drivers app!! usaully I can get to it to change the Nvidia Driver, any idea ??00:05
phoenixsamprasyusuf: its on sources00:06
andresnHi everybody! Mi wifi broke after an update. I have Ubuntu 12.04 and I can't find the way to fix it. Can you help me?00:07
sweetteawhy does eth0 come up as p1p1 now?00:11
andresnI'm in the right channel?00:15
scarrshow can I gat a 1600X1220 display in ubuntu00:15
scarrs1200*00:16
escott!details | andresn00:16
ubottuandresn: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:16
escottscarrs, what does xrandr list as available modes00:16
andresnI did. Let me copy it from above.00:16
teehee:-D00:16
andresnHi everybody! Mi wifi broke after an update. I have Ubuntu 12.04 and I can't find the way to fix it. Can you help me?00:16
scarrsty escott00:17
escottandresn, thats nowhere near detailed enough00:17
scarrsboo00:17
andresnWhat can I do to help you help me?00:17
andresnlet me know00:17
escottandresn, start by identifying the wireless chipset with lspci, also see if the adapter exists in iwconfig00:17
andresnok00:18
phoenixsamprasyour wifi is broken? bakrupcy?00:18
escottandresn, you can also try "rfkill list" to see if your radio is on or off00:18
andresn20:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)00:19
lcabrezaactivkey. anybody has an issue ?00:19
sweetteawhy does eth0 come up as p1p1 now?00:19
escottandresn, that is ethernet not wireless00:19
phoenixsampraswhat to do fun in the web?00:19
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andresnohh, sorry00:19
andresn08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)00:20
escott!broadcom00:20
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx00:20
scarrsI am trying to record a guitarix stream with ardour but am unable to caputure audio, can somebody help me please?00:20
andresn0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN00:21
andresnSoft blocked: no00:21
andresnHard blocked: no00:21
andresn1: phy0: Wireless LAN00:21
andresnSoft blocked: no00:21
andresnHard blocked: no00:21
FloodBot1andresn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:21
andresn2: brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN00:21
sweetteaI really dont understand why ifconfig shows p4p1 when dmes shows eth000:21
DrGrovI seem to have found a solution to my 12.04 LTS issue I had with Chrome. Apparently not a Chrome issue after all but not sure where to add these lines in xorg.conf. Could someone check this paste out to clear it up for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1595280/00:22
zykotick9sweettea: this page (from Fedora) explains the change http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming00:23
homecable<homecable> <homecable> [ 1.918654] ACPI Error: [DSSP] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20110623/psargs-359)00:25
homecable<homecable> <homecable> [ 1.918667] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.SAT0.SPT0._GTF] (Node f444bdd0), AE_NOT_FOUND (20110623/psparse-536)00:25
homecable<homecable> <homecable> [ 1.919200] ACPI Error: [DSSP] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20110623/psargs-359)00:25
homecable<homecable> <homecable> [ 1.919214] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.SAT0.SPT0._GTF] (Node f444bdd0), AE_NOT_FOUND (20110623/psparse-536)00:25
homecable<homecable> <homecable> is that a bug or is that my motherboard ?00:25
FloodBot1homecable: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:25
scarrscan somebody please help me be able to record with ardour00:25
sweetteazykotick9: thats confusing :(00:26
sweetteabut thank you00:26
zykotick9sweettea: agreed!00:26
homecablehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1595283/00:26
summervincan someone help me with a simple .zip problem?00:27
sweetteazykotick9: I suspect you can use persistent udev rules to revert?00:27
phoenixsamprassemeion: apt-get install unzip00:27
sweetteamy machine only has 2 built in NICs00:27
zykotick9sweettea: i have no idea.  i haven't had to deal with that yet.00:27
sweetteaso wtf is eth1 called if eth0 is p4p100:28
zykotick9sweettea: prior to find that link i gave you, i did see a Fedora forum post that suggested you could just remove one package (in fedora) and it would revert to eth.  so might be the same in ubuntu?00:29
barborihow can you I kills a tty/usb lock while using minicom00:29
sweetteabarbori: use screen00:29
sweetteascreen /dev/ttyUSB000:29
sweetteaso much easier :)00:29
barborikk00:29
edveanyone knows what date is the next release?00:29
sweetteazykotick9: okay thanks again00:30
Myrttiedve: late April00:30
barboriok let me try00:30
barborithanks00:30
edveanyone has any news about the new feature ?00:31
zykotick9!13.04 | edve00:31
ubottuedve: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+100:31
edveso in fact no one knows about the  new feature ? mark shufflework is doing like steve jobs.... lol00:34
zathras_laptopdon't suppose anyone knows if there is a couchdb 1.2.? package available in a ppa or somewhere else?00:35
summervinphoenixsampras:I unzipped, but the files are not in the directory I sent them to.  When I do a find,the state that they are in that directory, but even when I do ls -al, the files still do not show up.00:36
phoenixsamprassummervin: oh.. sorry i dont do scripting00:37
thoonaikunji: did you tried scanning with in line convertsion of the picture to jpeg?00:38
escott!paste | summervin send your terminal session00:39
ubottusummervin send your terminal session: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:39
andresnI tried what you send me and can't fix it.00:40
andresnis there a way of reinstall the whole driver software?00:40
kunjithoonai: I did not try doing conversion to jpeg inline, should be pipe-able though.00:41
DrGrovAnyone else experiencing random logouts on 12.04 and having an nVidia card?00:41
andresnThe bottom line is that an update broke it, so it has to be a software thing.00:41
dr_willisDrGrov:  logouts? you mean x crashing?00:41
Constyanyone been usin a chromebook with ubuntu?00:42
thoonaikunji: I piped it to convert but it doesnt convert at all00:43
DrGrovdr_willis: Hi there. Yes, I am having some issues with being thrown out back to the login screen. It has only happened when I have been running Chrome and having up multiple tabs and watched some Flash-based video in fullscreen.00:43
DrGrovdr_willis: But apparently what I am reading now over here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1754844&highlight=random+logout+12.04&page=3, it seems to be happening completely at random.00:44
kunjithoonai: What are you piping it to?  What command are you using?00:46
thoonaikunji: scanimage --format tiff --resolution 1200 | convert bild.jpg00:49
DrGrovdr_willis: Have you experienced anything similar? Could it be Unity causing the problem or Compiz?00:50
phoenixsamprasHELP!00:50
phoenixsamprassuspend is crashing the laptop00:51
DrGrovdr_willis: So apparently it is X crashing then if I understand you right.00:52
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spacecaseI'm trying to use tasksel, but I errors out with aptitude failed (100) any ideas?00:57
kunjithoonai: I think it can take the pipe output as either argument so you need to use a dash for the argument you're getting from the pipe.   http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-processing.php00:58
jribspacecase: what task are you trying to install?01:00
spacecasea bunch of stuff, remove unity, XFCE, install KDE-full (already have KDE desktop installed and running), audio editing software, video editing software, photography software01:01
spacecasemain thing is the DEs tho01:01
jribspacecase: with tasksel, what are you doing now that is giving you an error?01:02
zykotick9spacecase: DON'T use tasksel to remove01:02
spacecasejrib, sudo tasksel, select packages, select OK01:02
spacecasezykotick9, no?01:02
dr_willistasksel can be.... overzelous in its job01:03
zykotick9spacecase: no!  use apt-get/aptitude/other to remove packages01:03
jribyes...01:03
spacecaseok01:03
jribspacecase: installing tasks is ok though01:03
DrGrovdr_willis: You did not have anything similar to my issue now or in the pst?01:04
DrGrov*past01:04
The_Parkershey all01:07
The_Parkersnoob ubuntu here01:07
The_Parkersjust trying to figure out the best version for me...i want to dump windows01:08
heraclitisanyone know of a good program for designing and presenting networks in ubuntu?01:08
ulkeshThe_Parkers: Ubuntu 12.04 is the Long Term Support version, will be supported until 201701:10
DrGrovdr_willis: Could the problem I am experiencing be related to my nVidia GPU and/or my BIOS settings?01:10
The_Parkersu guys frown on kubuntu or any of the other flavors?01:11
zykotick9The_Parkers: LTS is a cool idea, but you'll find most ubuntu users find the newest version the most compelling (as it will have the most recent versions of software)01:11
jrib!kubuntu | The_Parkers01:11
ubottuThe_Parkers: Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde01:11
coz_The_Parkers,  no frowning here :)01:11
jribThe_Parkers: it's just a different default set of packages in ubuntu's repositories01:11
paperboatsJust installed xubuntu 12.10 on my MacBook 7,1 (refit, nvidia 304 drivers). -- It just werks! :)01:12
coz_The_Parkers,  kde tends to be more a resource hog than gnome , however , if your system is current, it shouldnt be an issue01:12
zykotick9coz_: s/tends to be/is/ ;)01:13
coz_:)01:13
ISOcratesFresh install of 12.10 x64 keeps crashing on me with this screen, does this point to a hard drive issue? http://puu.sh/1VB6101:16
vimerrrrrrr62352353a01:16
coz_ISOcrates,  mm not sure about it being hard drive...what was on the drive before installation of 12.10 ?01:18
zykotick9coz_: that I/O error at a specific sector, "suggests" a HD issue (only a guess on my part).  ISOcrates01:19
ISOcratesit had windows but i wiped it with gparted to ext4, then ubuntu formatted it again before install01:19
ISOcratesit's an ssd01:19
ISOcratesso i dont' even know how to test it01:20
homecablehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1595283/01:20
ISOcratesdo you think if i clone the drive and blast it onto another drive, it'll be ok?01:20
ISOcrateswill the sector faults cause a bad copy?01:20
_helios_ISOcrates: I've heard bad things about ssd's that after things such as format etc they crash.01:20
coz_zykotick9,  I understand... still with it being ssd  I am not completely sure :(01:20
DrGrovWould a easy switch of current kernel be suitable to perhaps solve my X crashing/logout issue? Or could it be that the nVidia drivers have been forcefully updated to newer ones and thus causing the X crashing?01:21
zykotick9coz_: i'm certainly not "sure" either.  ISOcrates i'd think trying to copy that drive will give you issues (whatever is on that storage location is probably corrupt, regardless of issue/cause)01:21
ISOcrates:/01:22
ISOcratesok good to know, thanks guys01:22
_helios_ISOcrates: if you get a new drive don't get ssd01:22
ISOcrateswhat software would you guys use to clone a linux drive?01:22
ISOcratesgonna try cloning the previous drive before i wipe it01:23
ISOcrates_helios_: yeah01:23
coz_ISOcrates,  dd is one01:23
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escottISOcrates, you should avoid doing low level clones onto SSDs.01:27
_helios_I'll be back gotta log out to reboot my laptop01:27
ISOcratesescott: ok thanks, I'll probably just go from scratch on a SATA drive :/01:29
mattwj2002hey guys when is the new ubuntu coming out?01:29
ezrafreeanyone use the new sublime text 3 yet?01:29
ISOcratesescott: can i clone an ssd onto a sata drive?01:29
ISOcratesor rather, shoudl i?01:29
ISOcratesshould*01:29
* mattwj2002 loves clonezilla01:29
escottISOcrates, sure pull off of it as much as you want. just writing to it will make the firmware think you are using the unused sectors of the filesystem01:30
mattwj2002would clonezilla work for ya?01:30
ISOcratesok cool01:31
_helios_Well I just installed a kernel update for 12.10 on my laptop01:31
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ISOcratesyeah perhaps, i've used it a few times01:31
mattwj2002so when is 13.04 coming out?01:31
ISOcratesis redo any good?01:31
ISOcrateshttp://redobackup.org01:31
zykotick9mattwj2002: are you aware how ubuntu version numbering works?  new release every 6 months - and the version says 2013 - 04th month01:31
Guest60220I'am new here.01:31
_helios_mattwj2002: Should be to long before the (Raring Ringtail) version comes out.01:32
mattwj2002zykotick9:  I didn't know that is how it worked!01:32
mattwj2002:)01:32
* mattwj2002 huggles zykotick901:32
mattwj2002raring ringtail?01:33
DrGrovCould someone help me with my X crashing issues? Or perhaps have a minor brainstorming around it? :)01:33
mattwj2002did you do updates recently DrGrov?01:33
mattwj2002since your last restart?01:34
_helios_mattwj2002: I'm not sure if I'm going to switch from 12.10 personaly because I hardly have any issues,  Running Xubuntu 12.1064bit on my desktop cause it don't have much ram and Unity on my laptop.01:34
DrGrovmattwj2002: No, I just did a few updates during the week but this problem has been persistent for a bit longer actually when I start to remember.01:34
sharperguyis it possible to use my wifi to bridge a router to an ad-hoc network?01:34
DrGrovmattwj2002: If I remember correctly it wanted to update my nVidia drivers and also the kernel.01:34
mattwj2002yeah I was thinking it might be a driver issue01:35
mattwj2002I have had driver updates kill my graphics before01:35
thoonaikunji: thx again, it seems I have my stupidest day of the yeat :)01:35
mattwj2002there is my brainstorming01:35
mattwj2002:)01:35
mattwj2002_helios_: xubuntu is nice01:36
mattwj2002especially on old systems01:36
mattwj2002:)01:36
DrGrovmattwj2002: :) I really feel the irritation growing when having myself thrown back to the login screen at least once per day.01:36
_helios_mattwj2002: yeah I'm running it through ssh from my laptop now,  ssh is so fluid and smooth it don't get any better.01:36
mattwj2002:D01:36
mattwj2002_helios_: indeed01:37
mattwj2002DrGrov: have you seen anything in the logs?01:37
mattwj2002not sure where01:37
mattwj2002start digging in /var/log01:37
DrGrovmattwj2002: Not anything related it seems. I could definitely go back there and search through.01:37
mattwj2002I am far from a linux expert just a few ideas01:38
_helios_mattwj2002: I run Unity on my laptop because I like the eye candy but the desktop don't have enough ram yet but xubuntu is quick01:38
mattwj2002you know01:38
mattwj2002_helios_: I like lubuntu too01:38
DrGrovmattwj2002: But what I have been reading on the Ubuntu Forums it seems like a fresh start, then rebooting and then logging in seems to do the trick. So apparently something is not really working out as it should.01:38
mattwj2002but it is almost too stripped down01:38
DrGrovmattwj2002: Could be completely unrelated as well, unfortunately.01:39
bradleeE01:39
mattwj2002DrGrov: not sure01:39
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mattwj2002e bradlee?01:39
bravisevening...01:39
mattwj2002good evening01:39
tchaffeeI'm stuck on Windows 8 because I just got a new laptop and Ubuntu install dualboot isn't working with nicely with EFI.  4th try now installing. Any suggestions on how I could get some local in-person support?01:39
DrGrovmattwj2002: But the strange thing seems to be that this problem was not persistent until this past week. So it has probably very much to do with an update to my nVidia drivers or something close to it at least.01:40
mattwj2002okay01:40
bravisrunning on a acer aspire with dual atom atm..01:40
OerHeks!uefi | tchaffee01:41
ubottutchaffee: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:41
escotttchaffee, if you need direct assistance see if anyone in your area LUG is available01:42
escotttchaffee, but the main recommendation is to disable secure boot01:42
OerHeksindeed01:42
tchaffeeYeah, I'm a programmer and pretty tech savvy. I've read all the guides and am still stuck.  Have even tried bootrepair utility.  This is a difficult one.01:42
mattwj2002tchaffee: I have an idea01:43
mattwj2002have you booted into Windows since the ubuntu install?01:43
craigbass1976http://www.ubuntugeek.com/playing-encrypted-dvds-in-ubuntu.html  is this still valid fo how to play encrypted DVDs?01:44
tchaffeemattwj2002, I have booted into Windows.  It's the only thing I can get reliably working.01:44
OerHekscraigbass1976, no, skip the amd 64 part " sudo apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot"  this is no longer needed01:45
mattwj2002okay01:45
_helios_sorry guys I had a connection error01:45
escotttchaffee, at some point you will have to describe what isnt working01:45
OerHekscraigbass1976, ifollow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs01:46
tchaffeeescott, depending on how I install the sypmtoms are different. Sometimes grub won't show and Windows boots auto, sometimes grub shows but Ubuntu won't boot, sometimes grub shows and Ubuntu boots, but then Windows refuses to boot.01:47
mattwj2002what is up with this?01:47
mattwj2002http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit01:47
escotttchaffee, and what are the different ways of installing that correspond to each01:47
tchaffeeSince I've read and tried everything, I was hoping there might be a guru nearby that could help me get up and running.01:47
ISOcratesif i use dd to clone a 64gb drive to a 250gb drive, will the big drive have 186GB left, or will it just be a 64GB drive then?01:48
OerHeksmattwj2002, it says download or buy :-)01:48
mattwj2002they use to ship for free :(01:48
tchaffeeescott, I don't remember all of them anymore, but for example if I install with EFI off then grub will show but Ubuntu won't boot.01:49
OerHeksThey still do, free digital shipment.01:49
mattwj2002:P01:49
mattwj2002not the same01:49
escotttchaffee, ok. does grub load the kernel at least?01:49
mattwj2002;)01:49
elkymattwj2002, it was costing them too much because the abuse level was too high.01:50
mattwj2002I guess just makes me sad01:50
bradleegoogle01:51
MurderSongss01:52
escottISOcrates, it will be a 250GB drive with partitions only on the first 64GB01:53
tchaffeeescott, I don't remember anymore. I tried so many different combos. I think what I need to do is to come back here when I can get my other laptop running so I can use IRC on that and try the install on this laptop.01:53
escotttchaffee, well. i guess the only thing to tell you is that you must use EFI to boot if you want to dual boot01:53
mattwj2002you could probably expand it with a partition too I think01:53
escotttchaffee, any legacy boot mode will break windows boot01:53
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tchaffeeI'll try the guide one more time, making sure I follow the steps carefully.  Thanks for the help so far.01:53
ISOcratesescott: thanks01:54
ISOcratesescott: so would i then use gparted to partition the rest of the free space so i can use it?01:56
escottISOcrates, sure. remember that you cannot resize an active partition01:56
mattwj2002escott: when you say active you mean mounted right?01:57
ISOcratesright01:57
escottyes01:57
summervinWould someone be able to take a look at my .zip problem? paste.ubuntu.com/1595417/01:57
craigbass1976OerHeks, Thanks.  It's a little choppy, but I see more in the walkthrough about that.  At least i tplays!01:57
escottsummervin, /Docum is not the same as ~/Docum01:58
topper4125which processor has better linux support: Intel or AMD?01:58
escottsummervin, and why would you sudo unzip01:58
escotttopper4125, both01:58
dr_willistopper4125:  i doubt if it will matter much01:58
topper4125k.. Working on Building a Desktop, 100% linux01:59
ISOcratesescott: can i dd to a usb drive, or should i only do it internally?01:59
ISOcratesor rather, can i use dd to clone to a sata drive connected via a usb connector01:59
DrGrovWhat would happen if I did a backup of my xorg.conf and installed some other version of the nVidia drivers? Could that perhaps be a solution?02:00
escottISOcrates, whatever device you want. in fact you dont even need to use "dd" you can (in a sudo -i root terminal) just cat /dev/whatever > /dev/something_else02:00
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summervinI see, did not see the difference at frist02:01
ISOcratesescott: ok cool... are the write speeds affected when going from an internal drive to a usb-connected drive?02:01
escottISOcrates, USB is slower02:01
ISOcratesescott: think it will cause errors?02:01
escottISOcrates, why should it?02:02
ISOcratesescott: not sure really, didn't know if it would lose data somehow02:02
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shepardofsheepHello peoples02:05
DrGrovWell, I will be back later on to see if anyone else has had the same issue I am having.02:05
DrGrovThanks for the help everyone =)02:05
shepardofsheepAnybody in here familiar with LAMP?02:06
dr_willis!lamp02:06
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.02:06
anders_Is there a channel for Ubuntu installation help? or is there just this one?02:07
zvacetanders_ here02:07
anders_Ok.02:07
anders_Here goes.02:07
gelhello everyone!02:08
anders_I installed Ubuntu alongside Windows 7. However, I cannot figure out how to boot into Ubuntu.02:08
gelhow do i check for other users on a terminal?02:08
dr_willisgel:  check them for what?02:08
anders_Both Ubuntu and Windows 7 are on the same drive.02:09
zvacetanders_: do you see grub when you boot02:09
geldr_willis: to see who is on02:09
dr_willisgel:  try the 'who' command.  ;)02:09
zykotick9gel: w or who might show you02:09
anders_No.02:09
geldr_willis: got it. thanks.02:09
gelzykotick9: thanks02:09
dr_willisshouldent that be 'whom' ? :)02:10
ulkeshanders_: I use EasyBCD and it finds my Ubuntu bootloader every time (it's a windows app that modifies the windows bootstrap)02:10
anders_So thats what I should use?02:10
dr_willis!fixgrub | anders_02:10
ubottuanders_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)02:10
ulkeshanders_: I wouldn't say "should"...just an option02:10
dr_willisbest to use grub anders_02:10
* zykotick9 just discovered his "w" alias wasn't a good idea02:10
escottanders_, how new is the computer?02:10
anders_2010, Toshiba C65502:11
zvacetanders_: is windows installed in uefi mode02:12
escottanders_, its unlikely but possible that the laptop has a efi firmware that is booting hard disks in legacy mode for windows, but usb sticks in efi mode. that will confuse the ubuntu installer and then you end up with the wrong bootloader installed02:13
KentrelI've tried in vain to install kde-full to Ubuntu and I keep getting this message02:13
Kentrelhttp://pastebin.com/WpPyu1vQ02:13
Kentrelabout unmet dependancies. I've switched on and switched off the kubuntu repository but to no avail02:14
zvacetanders_:  does bios look like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:14
dr_willisKentrel:  i tend to install  the kubuntu-desktop package..  I dident know  there was a kubuntu specific repository...02:14
giggazillaAnybody familiar with raid / partition recovery?02:14
Kentreldr_willis, I just get a different eror if I try that02:15
zvacetKentrel: sudo apt-get -f install02:15
dr_willisKentrel:  so you are using some kde ppa or extra repository?02:15
KentrelI was, but I switched it off to see if I could install02:16
escottgiggazilla, what kind of raid02:16
dr_willisyou did purge the ppa?02:16
dr_willis!ppa-purge02:16
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html02:16
anders_To bo honest, I'm not sure.02:16
KentrelI did not purge the ppa , no, but I'll try it02:16
dr_willisi see a 'pre' in the package names.. tht may  be packages from the ppa still wanted02:16
KentrelWell I removed the PPA by just unselecting it in Software Center02:17
zvacetanders_: boot in bios and see if you have uefi mode enabled or if you have it at all02:17
dr_willisthat dosent purge it.   that did not remove the ppa installed files.02:17
anders_Ok.02:18
Kentrelubottu, so I'd go ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports  ?02:18
ubottuKentrel: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:18
KentrelI mean dr_willis02:18
dr_willistry it and see i guess. :)  looks about right02:19
yofunSo how long does it take to boot up after the reboot of the install?02:19
KentrelWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ppa backports02:19
Kentrel:(02:19
Kentrelso nope02:19
dr_willisKentrel:  you have allready removed it via the package manager tools.. you may  need to readd it02:20
anders_Where would I look in bios? (I know, general question)02:20
yofunSo how long does it take to boot up after the reboot of the install?02:20
anders_Should I say, what am I looking for?02:20
escottanders_, you might boot your install cd and see if there is a directory /sys/firmware/efi or /sys/firmware/uefi. if you see that then your install cd is booting efi mode02:20
yofunO_o checking disk for errors is  that normal?02:21
dr_willisyofun:  only if you dident shut down properly02:21
shawnhello irc world!! I haven't visited this world since 200002:21
yofunAh.... Yep that would be it02:21
shawnI can't remember how to use this again. Is this Ubuntu chat02:22
dr_willisyes02:22
zvacetshawn: it is ubuntu support chanell02:22
yofunI shut down incorrectly because I had a black screen when rebooting after the install02:22
shawnThank zvacet\02:22
KentrelNope, it's still not working02:23
shawnhow can i get ubuntu to work on my flat screen tv. it always blanks our02:23
shawnout02:23
zvacetyofun: you can always shutdown with sudo shutdown -h now02:23
Kentrel kde-full : Depends: kde-plasma-desktop (>= 5:71~pre15ubuntu12.4) but it is not going to be installed02:23
KentrelI get a bunch of those02:23
KentrelDon't even know what that means02:23
dr_willisshawn:  what video card and how is it connecteed02:23
yofunNo... I just installed liunx and it asked to reboot02:24
zvacetKentrel: do you still get message about broken packages?02:24
shawnI'm using my netbook HP mini02:24
dr_willisKentrel:  the 'pre' in the  version number  means to me - its still wanting stuff from that ppa.02:24
dr_willisshawn:  that dosent really tell us  what video card and how is it connecteed02:24
shawnI don't know what type of video card that I have02:24
dr_willisuse lspci to  see what it says02:24
zykotick9shawn: specifially, "lspci -v | grep -i vga" should show ONLY your graphics card(s)02:25
zvacetshawn: lspci | grep VGA02:25
UlyssesGaYou darn pipers02:25
anders_I don't see either of those folders, I see acpi, and memmap.02:26
zykotick9zvacet: 2 sidenotes - 1) without the -v lspci will only show 1 card on optimus setups and 2) giving VGA, many people don't know that capitalization is required, thus i find -i for grep helpful02:27
Kentrelzvacet, I'm not getting messages about broken packages, but I'm just getting weird messages when trying to install kde02:27
Kentrelstuff like this02:27
Kentrel kde-full : Depends: kde-plasma-desktop (>= 5:71~pre15ubuntu12.4) but it is not going to be installed02:27
shawnokay I will come back when I have all the right information. Thanks guys02:27
KentrelWon't tell me why its not going to be installed02:27
shepardofsheepAnybody who has managed to start up Apache and change the default directory that it displays web pages from without attempting to hang themselves, I request your assistance.02:28
dr_willis!info kde-plasma-desktop02:28
ubottukde-plasma-desktop (source: meta-kde): KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:76~pre1ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 37 kB02:29
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zvacetzykotick9: tnx  ;)02:29
dr_willisyou are on 12.04 or 12.10  Kentrel ?02:29
shepardofsheep12.102:29
Kentrelhow can i tell?02:29
shepardofsheepOh02:29
dr_willis!version02:30
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »02:30
Kentrel12.0402:30
anders_The sys file in the filesystem is empty...02:30
dr_willissys file? what sys file?02:31
escott!who | anders_02:32
ubottuanders_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:32
Kentreldr_willis, if I upgrade to 12.10 will that help do you think?02:32
escottanders_, if you dont see /sys/firmware/something_efi then you are booting in bios mode. if you see a folder for efi then that indicates you have an efi system02:33
zvacetanders_: so you don´t have uefi and you can not boot Ubuntu is that right?02:34
anders_yes.02:35
dr_willisKentrel:  i always do clean instgalls.. if your repos are all goofed up.. a upgrade may not work02:35
Kentrelcan i do a reinstall without reformatting?02:36
dr_willisi keep my /home/ on its own partion. so i can reinstall easially02:37
zvacetKentrel: you can reinstall on same partition but if you don´t have separate home backup your files first02:37
zvacetKentrel: did yo utry to install kde from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports02:38
Kentrelzvacet, yes02:39
KentrelI think02:40
zvacetanders_: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair02:40
zvacetKentrel: if you do then upgrade will not help you will add same PPA and have same problems02:40
Kentrelso what's the problem??02:41
anders_zvacet: I found that page, but the USB version of Ubuntu won't allow sudo commands.02:41
dr_willisanders_:  ive used sudo on the live usb befor.....02:41
anders_It says "Command not found"02:42
zvacetanders_: is live cd on usb if it is you don´t need sudo02:42
dr_willistheres also the boot-repair iso  disk.02:42
zvacetdr_willis: but it is easier to just add ppa in live session I think02:43
anders_zvacet: "error. Must run as root." :)02:44
dr_willisive definatly  added the ppa for boot-repair and installed it on a live-usb02:46
yofunSo I just installed liunx and http://s14.postimage.org/j0tqdoz1d/IMAG.jpg02:46
zvacetanders_: and you can not run command with sudo I give up someone else will know better02:46
yofunAny idea?02:46
randypopabawaAnyone had any luck loading Ubuntu on a newer Samsung laptop? I just read a launchpad bug stating that Samsungs that could with Secure Boot are getting bricked when you try to install Linux on them02:48
dr_willisyofun:  first guess... bad cd, bad burn, bad iso image..    second guess.. some sort of hardware failure or issue02:48
anders_Can you install boot repair onto a live USB?02:48
spacecasewhat's the best way to go about removing Xbunutu desktop?02:49
dr_willisanders_:  I  have done so dozens of times.02:49
randypopabawaI'd love to replace Windows 8 with Ubuntu but I don't want to brick my brand new machine02:49
dr_willisanders_:  you can even 'install it' on a live cd.. but it saves to 'ram' so it gets lost when you reboot.02:49
yofunHard ware failure...02:49
anders_dr_willis: Everytime I type the sudo command to add the repository, it says command not found.02:49
yofunHarddrive02:49
anders_dr_willis: Or any sudo command.02:49
dr_willisanders_:  whts the exact command you are using02:49
dr_willisand what usb/cd version are you using02:50
anders_dr_willis: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update02:50
dr_willisgetg that boot-repair iso that comes with boot-repair perhaps.. i dont recall ever having issues with sudo on a liuve-usb02:50
max___great idea: ubuntu for smartphones02:52
boukehi everyone02:52
cfhowlett!phone|max___,02:52
ubottumax___,: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone02:52
cfhowlettbouke, greetings02:52
randypopabawano one can help me with my samsung issue?02:53
phunyguydoes anyone know what the name of the process is for the screen shot program? It is hung up taking a huge chunk of my screen with a white square, and I can't kill it without killing the window behind it instead...02:53
boukehow is the new blackberry ?02:54
Kentrelblack02:54
bouke?02:54
cfhowlettbouke, this is ubuntu support.  please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic02:54
phunyguynevermind, I found it.  gnome-screenshot02:54
cfhowlett!ot|bouke02:54
ubottubouke: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:54
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OerHeksrandypopabawa, that brick is confirmed, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/104055702:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1040557 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Fix committed]02:55
max___bb q1002:55
max___seems to be great02:55
giggazillaWhat a pain.... no live cd would load off my marvell chipset cdrom drive02:55
max___lg nexus 4 ...worth to give it a try ..plus will ubuntu support it?02:55
giggazillaHad to connect it to the onboard raid controller chip02:56
KentrelWhat's the difference between apt and aptitude02:56
john_redmondhello room I'm running ubuntu on my Acer C7 chrome book ... I like it much better now :)02:56
anders_Alright, thanks guys. I'll try and figure this out.02:56
randypopabawaI have a Samsung NP365E5C02:56
twodogsdavehi all02:56
cfhowletttwodogsdave, greetings02:56
randypopabawaShould i assume based on the bug that all NP series Samsungs will be bricked by trying to install Linux?02:56
cfhowlettrandypopabawa, until a definite fix/answer otherwise, I'd suggest yes.02:57
randypopabawathank you02:58
OerHeksrandypopabawa, does it have efi, then yes.( to be safe)02:58
wbfmy lib/modules/3.0.8+/build link is broken02:58
wbfjoin #ubuntu-arm03:07
ntzrmtthihu777Quick bash/sed question. I have a text file with portions separated by "*", that is, quotes with 1-2 different characters beween it. What sed command should I use to replace these characters with a space?03:08
wbfforgot the slash03:08
wbfsorry03:08
fruitFlyplease help me with dual boot partitioning http://superuser.com/questions/544580/dual-boot-modular-partitioning03:10
ntzrmtthihu777you absolutley need a /03:11
ntzrmtthihu777is the bare minimum of an install, its basically the linux C:/ drive03:12
dangerousicedoes anyone know if i need to use an active display port to get the 4th monitor working with 660ti?03:12
GaboXandrefruitFly: have you tried with GParted Live CD?03:14
cfhowlettfruitFly, is this a windows installer aka wubi install?03:15
fruitFlyGaboXandre: I haven't done it yet. I am gonna use the mint 14 so I guess it's gparted,right?03:15
fruitFlycfhowlett: I am gonna use the mint 14 cd so I believe it's gparted03:16
GaboXandrefruitFly: not if you use the install partitioner03:16
GaboXandrefruitFly: when I have a new disk, I usually make all the partions manually with GParted and the use the "other" option03:17
zykotick9GaboXandre: cfhowlett you really shouldn't support mint in #ubuntu... just sayin'03:17
GaboXandrefruitFly: with ubuntu or whatever distro03:17
ntzrmtthihu777Quick bash/sed question. I have a text file with portions separated by "*", that is, quotes with 1-2 different characters beween it. What sed command should I use to replace these characters with a space?03:18
GaboXandrezykotick9: I know, sorry. just offered GParted.03:18
fruitFlyGaboXandre: What is the partitioning tool that comes with mint? Not gparted? Why shouldn't I use the tool on the mint cd?03:18
dr_willisi doubt if the tool matters.03:19
dr_willisyou could insgtall gparted. if its not on the live cd03:19
fruitFlyGaboXandre: zykotick9 Why can't you help me? I'm going to do an elementary os install as well. I am a good guy that needs help. I've asked a lot of people and haven't gotten the help and have done some reading but am just trying to make sense of it. I though you guys would be the best community to help me out... #linux doesn't give a shit. I didn't even get an acknowledgment in there03:20
dr_williselemtaryos should have its own support forums/channels i belive.. ive not looked into it in ages03:20
dr_willisi just dont see the  need for all these ubuntu  variants.03:21
wadI want a program (synfig) available from Universe (I think), but Universe isn't one of my software sources. How do I get to the software sources to add "universe"?03:21
ntzrmtthihu777I understand your frustration, fruitFly, but its akin to calling micro$oft for apple support03:21
dr_willisof course once you get the linux fundamentals under your belt.. the specific linux dosent matter much03:21
giggazillaIs there a check disk on the live cd?03:21
ntzrmtthihu777should be an option for that in software center wad03:22
* wad looks there again03:22
dr_williswad:   or use the dash search to look for 'software sources'03:22
wadfound it!03:22
wadthanks!03:22
ntzrmtthihu777no prob wad03:22
wadIt's at the botton of the EDIT menu, of the software center.03:22
ntzrmtthihu777yup03:22
GaboXandrefruitFly: if you use Gparted to partition your drive prior to intalling the os. You have a lot more option to do it as you like.03:22
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: GaboXandre dr_willis So I NEED a /, do I also need a boot? Will / be it's own primary partition? I heard the installer would install grub on the windows partition, is that true?03:22
dr_willisfruitFly: you  techincally only  need a /03:23
HalftrackHello03:23
dr_willisit does not have to be a primary partition03:23
fruitFlyGaboXandre: There is an option to customize partitions, to add /boot, /home, /swap etc.03:23
dr_willisyou can tell grub wher to install03:23
GaboXandrefruitFly: then during installation you select "other" and choose the partiotions you already created.03:23
HalftrackI want to install Netbeans IDE on Ubuntu to program with Ruby.03:23
dr_willisits a swap partion.. NOT /swap ;)03:23
ntzrmtthihu777It will create an extended sda2 with your resultant partitions in it. I never do more than / /home and swap, myself03:23
HalftrackI downloaded the Linux zip but don't know how to install it.03:23
GaboXandrefruitFly: yes. That exactly why I use GParted03:24
cfhowlettHalftrack, greetings03:24
fruitFlyGaboXandre: I'm not sure what artitions to create03:24
dr_willisHalftrack:  what .zip exctly?03:24
HalftrackThe version of Netbeans is 6.9.103:24
GaboXandrefruitFly: that depends on what you wanna do03:24
dr_willisextract, look in the directory  it made.. see whats in it. ;)03:24
Halftracknetbeans-6.9.1-201007282301-ml-ruby.zip03:25
fruitFlyGaboXandre: I put what I want to do in this link if you want to help me. dr willis03:25
HalftrackAccessed from http://netbeans.org/downloads/6.9.1/index.html03:25
fruitFlydr_willis: ^^^03:25
kroq-gar78hello all. My desktop can't seem to find any machine on the local network (even the router). It's connected to a switch, which is connected to another switch, which is connected to the router. I can confirm that machines on the second switch (next to the router) can see the router, but my desktop can't see it. Can anyone help, please? I remember internet working before (really long time ago), and the green light on it sti03:25
kroq-gar78ll blinks, so i don't think it's a problem with the card.03:25
GaboXandrefruitFly: ok, but as said, this is not the place for mint. let's try at ##linuxmint03:26
dr_willisfruitFly:   / /home and swap  - is about all i  ever need.03:26
ntzrmtthihu777any sed wizards on channel?03:27
dr_willisntzrmtthihu777:  i always google for 'sed examples' first. and normally find what i need from the hundreeds of examples out there.. then theres #bash03:28
ntzrmtthihu777Yeah, I was checking my go-to sed site, but I can't quite get it to work right03:29
dr_willisyou basically need to  determine the regular explression that will match "(1 or more characters)"  from what i saw03:29
HalftrackDo I need the full version of Netbeans installed to use the Ruby segment?03:29
ntzrmtthihu777what server is #bash on?03:29
fruitFlydr_willis: so what is the point of a /boot?03:29
dr_willis   /boot/  has a few uses these dasys,, but rarely  needed except in specail cases03:30
ntzrmtthihu777fruitFly: I believe it has to do with ext2 being a better filesystem for /boot. I may use one if I get a small ssd, for the fact it will boot faster03:30
dr_willisi keep .iso  files on /boot/ and setup grub to boot theiso files for easy recover/reinstall ;)03:30
fruitFlydr_willis: what r the uses?03:30
dr_willisif you  dont have any special cases going on.. you  dont need a /boot/03:31
fruitFlydr_willis: but doesn't it NOT hurt to have a /boot?03:31
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, but it doesn't "hurt" to have a skin tag either03:32
dr_willisit can use up  more space that could be used elsewhere..03:32
kroq-gar78eh, nevermind about my problem. I forgot that it's running 10.10 anyway ;) I think i'll back it up and reinstall to 12.0403:32
cyb3runkn0wncan anyone help me out here... I just installed ubuntu 12.04 using minimal install. I want to strictly have gnome classic and openbox. I already installed both, but cannot start them. I assume it's because my display drivers are missing?03:32
dr_willisand if you fill up  your /boot. because you made it too small.. its annoying03:32
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: skin tag?03:32
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:   you mean the gnome-fallback mode of gnome3 ?03:33
fruitFlydr_willis: how do u fill up boot?03:33
dr_willisfruitFly:  instsll lots of kernels03:33
cfhowlettfruitFly, might you not be better off perhaps running your ubuntu in virtualbox until your plans solidify??03:33
cyb3runkn0wni did gnome-panel03:33
ntzrmtthihu777loose extra bit of skin, think of like a mole03:33
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  tried a 'startx' yet?03:34
cyb3runkn0wni just finished installing 12.04 minimal. the only things i've done is "sudo apt-get update" sudo apt-get openbox, and sudo apt-get gnome-panel.03:34
CD2000Hi everyone! I have a few questions about 12.10. I installed it, had issues with Grub but now that is out of the way. I had to purge Grub then reinstall it. Now, Ubuntu works and feels really good but every hour or so, without any warning, the system freezes over. The mouse cursor won't move or will move very erratically (if it moves at all) then will freeze solid. I have no other option but to hit the reset button on the case. An Xorg error popped u03:34
cyb3runkn0wnwhen i type openbox, it says "Openbox-Message: failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable."03:34
zykotick9cyb3runkn0wn: is that a typo?  did you use "sudo apt-get install FOO"?03:35
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  openbox is NOT the command to start the  x server...03:35
zykotick9cyb3runkn0wn: try "startx"03:35
cyb3runkn0wnyes that is wshat i mean. apt-get install.03:35
dr_willislinux fundamentals. ;)03:35
ZarjazAnyone know how to install glibc on Ubuntu Quantal? I would think this would be easy, but it's proving challenging to figure out....03:36
cyb3runkn0wnto start gnome i was trying "gnome-session --session=gnome-classic"03:36
ntzrmtthihu777CD2000: I personally had issue with Quantal so I came back to Precise untill the next lts03:36
cyb3runkn0wnone sec let me install xinit03:36
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  again that is not the command to start the XX session..   that is a command  ran INSIDE the X session to start the window  manager  stuff03:36
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ntzrmtthihu777cyb3runkn0wn: logout, and at the login screen click the ubuntu logo next to your login data03:37
Zarjazis glibc just libc-bin?03:37
CD2000Ok. Thank you ntzrmtthihu777. I will consider installing 12.04 instead of 12.10.03:37
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  or just install lightdm. and use the login screen. ;)03:37
cyb3runkn0wni do not get a login screen to click. currently it is strictly command-line03:37
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: dr_willis So making a /boot in ext 2 would give me faster boot times? And I may want to use a zfs kernel how large should it be you think?03:37
dr_willisfruitFly:  i use ext4 for /boot/ i douibt if it will be noticeable..03:37
ntzrmtthihu777no idea fruitFly, just saying what I have read/heard03:37
ntzrmtthihu777startx, cyb3runkn0wn03:38
dr_willisfruitFly:  and i dont think you  are at a experience level where you should be playing with zfs yet. ;)03:38
CD2000Good night everyone! Thanks again ntzrmtthihu777   ;-)03:38
dr_willismy /boot  was 2gb.. but as i said.. I kept .iso  files on it for booting via grub. ;)03:38
ntzrmtthihu777later CD200003:38
dr_willisi dont een have a /boot/ on my current installs03:39
nuthows it going yall?03:39
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: did you answer my question about #bash's server? If you did I did not see it03:39
fruitFlydr_willis: wuts the purpose of having iso files in grub? to be able to boot other distros?03:39
ntzrmtthihu777its like a recovery partition, fruitFly03:39
cyb3runkn0wnok i installed xinit and ran the startx command. now i'm on a screen with a blue background. i can right click and have the "create new folder, create new document, organize desktop by name, and change background options03:40
ntzrmtthihu777you can set your grub.cfg to boot straight from iso.03:40
DrAgonmoraySo I just installed Ubuntu and I'm having clicking problems.. My mouse is working, and I can launch applications and everything. But, for example, if I open my home folder, I can't click on anything inside it. I can't move the window around, close it, maximize it, or navigate within it. The same thing happens with every application.03:40
DrAgonmorayCould someone help me out? :s03:40
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  congratulations.. you are using openbox sounds like03:40
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: aaah... good idea. But couldn't you ask grub to boot from a cd or usb? dr_willis03:40
cyb3runkn0wn<dr_willis> how can i get a terminal?03:41
dr_willisi had grub2 set to boot iso files for testing the iso..  and to allow faster reinstalls during beta testing03:41
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  no  idea.. should be a entry there somewhere.. may  be time to  read the openbox docs.03:41
dr_willisif its openboxx you  are using03:41
cfhowlettfruitFly, *respectfully* I'd be inclined to agree with dr_willis  ... a few weeks/months of virtualbox might save you many an angst filled hour.  build your skills with the defaults before venturing out into exotic customizations.03:41
dr_willisbut that dosent sound like an openbox menu.03:42
dr_willissounds like a nautilus menu..03:42
cyb3runkn0wnhmmm03:42
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  you edit some .xinitrc or .Xsession in your home to tell startx what to run03:42
dr_willisor was it .xsession03:43
dr_willisor just install some login manager and use that..03:43
cyb3runkn0wnthat was my next question... how to configure startx to run gnome-classic or openbox03:43
dr_willis!info slim03:43
zykotick9.xinitrc for startx03:43
ubottuslim (source: slim): desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (quantal), package size 876 kB, installed size 1482 kB03:43
dr_willisyou may be better off using a full desktop install  untill you learn this stuff...03:43
dr_willisyou are going to  be beating your head on the wall for some time i imagine.03:44
nutthats how i feel tryn to get used to the console stuff lol03:44
cyb3runkn0wnagreed, but i believe that being forced to do it from the beginning will benefit me03:45
dr_willisi wonder what a good old skiil type referance would be for  all this stuff ive learned over the years... perhaps that Linux From Scratch book.. it may give some good core info... worth  reading through at least03:45
ntzrmtthihu777learn to walk before run, cyb3runkn0wn03:45
deadmundNut its much easier to learn the console when you have the GUI to fall back on03:45
dr_williscyb3runkn0wn:  Id seriously check out  that linux from scratch guide.. its got some neat info last i  looked at it.. even if you dont insstall LFS.03:45
dr_willisotherwise you are going to be asking  1000's of rather fundamental questions in here about  everything...03:46
nutwhat u mean deadmund runing console instead of the gui?03:46
cyb3runkn0wni will do that. thank you guys for your help. sons crying, gotta go. if anyone has skype and dosn't mind an idiot like me asking silly questions, add cyb3runkn0wn03:46
deadmundNut I mean learning the CLI using the gui terminal app03:47
nutsry i dont understand what u talkn about03:47
dr_willisbest thing for learing the cli.. get that 'using bash book' by Oreaially.. keep it  in the  bathroom... eat lots of  fiber... read it all day long. ;)03:48
ntzrmtthihu777lawl03:48
nutlol03:48
nutdam color wont change03:49
dr_willisi literally had a HUGE booksshelf fiull of barbin bin linux books next to the 'guys bathroom' in our house.03:49
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dr_willisthose clearance book stores are gerat for getting the older edition linux books.03:49
ntzrmtthihu777lol, I generally just look for pdfs online.03:50
dr_willisGot a copy of 'Mastering Regular explressions' by Orialy that  still  handy even tho its like 10 yrs old.03:50
nuti all ways get confused with the options03:50
dr_willisi got most of mine befor you could even get such books online03:50
fruitFlydr_willis: what exactly is /... can put / at /boot?03:50
dr_willisfruitFly:  / IS the root of the filesystem03:51
dr_willisyou cant put / anywehere.. :) itss the foundation of your house..03:51
dr_willis /boot  -> boot is under /03:51
dr_willisor on top of /  ;P03:51
nuthttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=using%20bash%20book%20torrent&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CGwQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwriters.fultus.com%2Fgarrels%2Febooks%2FMachtelt_Garrels_Bash_Guide_for_Beginners_2nd_Ed.pdf&ei=ezsLUaWiDrP3yAHZs4CYDQ&usg=AFQjCNH0qoka1Wbaj2ZtWmUPGzbroaC1bQ&bvm=bv.41867550,d.aWc hey heres 1 for beginers03:52
fruitFlydr_willis: what is the purpose of having a /home03:52
ntzrmtthihu777is the root, the uppermost layer of a filesystem03:52
dr_willisfruitFly:  makes backing up and restoreing a lot easier.03:52
dr_willisroot = lowest layer.. ;) like the roots of a tree.03:52
fruitFlydr_willis: So I should have a / a /boot a /home and a /swap03:52
ntzrmtthihu777ah, thank you nut. accquired :P03:53
dr_willisfruitFly:  theres not normally  a need for /boot/   and swap does NOT have a mountpoint03:53
fruitFlydr_willis: what is contained in / that isn;t in /home?03:53
dr_willis  / contains EVERYTHING03:53
fruitFlydr_willis: what is mount point?03:53
deadmundFruitfly you can repartition without losing your personal data (e.g. for clean installs)03:53
dr_willis!mount | fruitFly03:53
ubottufruitFly: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount03:53
dr_willisNow is the time when we start suggesting you go read  and learn some fundamentalss. ;)03:53
dr_willisthese are rather core concepts.03:53
fruitFlyI'm reading03:54
fruitFly:|03:54
nutbut i dont think it really too indepth wheat every 1 needs lol03:54
dr_willis the term  'root' has differnt  meanings also  depending on its contexxt03:54
dr_willis  / is the root of your filesystem....  /root  is the root users home directory03:54
bravisi need some Root beer03:55
dr_willismoney is the root of all evil.03:55
dr_willis;)03:55
nut<......got coffee03:55
elena-IKhow do I run ruby scripts in a terminal window on double click in nautilus? I see no "custom command" or something similar in the "open with" dialog.03:55
randimilleris there a good cloud backup service that anyone can recommend? (like carbonite)03:56
dr_williselena-IK:  you could make the launcher run somthing like   'xterm -e ruby script.to.run'03:56
dr_willisor the gnome-terminal equilivent03:56
OerHeks!u103:56
OerHeks!ubuntu-one03:57
ubottuUbuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone03:57
ntzrmtthihu777double click them, and it shoud give you several options if they have x permissions, elena-IK03:57
cfhowlett!ubuntuone|randimiller,03:57
ubotturandimiller,: please see above03:57
ntzrmtthihu777dropbox is also good, randimiller. I can refer you and you get an extra .5 gigs of space free.03:58
nutman alll that bash sound odd03:59
randimillerohh...didn't know ubuntuone had syncing03:59
randimillerthanks03:59
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, it does. I cant use it so effectively because I must operate on multiple platforms04:00
deadmundElena-ik open that folder with the terminal and run ruby scriptname04:00
dr_willisone  thing about Ubuntu One that makes  me sad... it got rid of that tomboys notes feature. ;(04:00
dr_willisand the astro file manager on my phone dosent support U1.. yet.04:00
systemcrasheshelHi: My system has been repeatedly locking up. ctrl+alt+del doesn't work -> syslog -> http://pastebin.com/T3qQbStd04:00
randimillerjust started using tomboy04:01
nuti feel puter iliterate with all that going on lol04:01
systemcrasheshelctrl+alt+backspace neither... just frozen... http://pastebin.com/T3qQbStd04:01
randimilleri have been wading around in ubuntu for 2 years now but trying to take the plunge fulltime this year04:01
randimillerso trying to find my linux equivalents to my windows programs04:01
nutmines been on and off for a yr or so04:02
nutdifferent ones04:03
jotterbot1234Has anyone been able to get Adobe's Update Server running on ubuntu yet>04:03
jotterbot1234?04:03
ntzrmtthihu777hehe, I know the feels randimiller. I used win$ all my life, just got into linux july last year, never looked back.04:03
nutlol ntz04:03
jotterbot1234I'm trying not to reinvent the wheel here...04:03
randimillerntzrmtthihu777: We use a windows platform at work so it's hard trying to program in linux then test in windows04:04
nuti mostly dont cause of the games04:04
ntzrmtthihu777now if they would make a good rpg maker equivalent for linux I could get rid of this virtualbox04:04
randimilleronce i find a solution for that then it will be perfect04:04
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ntzrmtthihu777Yeah, I know what you mean randimiller. I need to dip into windows from time to time for professional reasons, but on my own steam I stick to linux04:05
kanadaaI am trying to view some files on a mac os install, but even when I am root I still get permission denied04:05
cfhowlettsystemcrasheshel, reboot and try booting up an earlier/older  kernel04:06
nutive been having a prob getting desktop icons on the screen cant right click em04:06
kunjirandimiller: Anything specific?  The easiest ones are the cross platform ones, VLC, Audacity, Azureous.  After that there are things that are very similar, like LibreOffice, Gimp, Inkscape though they don't have entirely the same feature set.  Programming, for what I have done everything I write in linux seems to work on windows, but not always vice versa because of idiosyncrasies of Visual Studio...  It depends what you're doing though, if04:07
topper4125ntz, have you looked at:  http://easy-rpg.org/04:07
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, compiled the source and installed, but its still buggy04:08
randimillerkunji: the problem is that I program a kiosk machine and the connected devices don't have linux drivers04:08
ntzrmtthihu777nut: what session are you using?04:08
evonWhenever i let my computer sits for a while, my screen goes blank.  This is especially annoying when I'm watching a movie on my computer.  I can't seem to figure out how to turn the screensaver/power saving feature off. Can anyone help?04:09
topper4125ntz, k... havent played with rpg maker in *years*04:09
randimillerit's hard enough to find a wireless driver much less a automated bloodpressure cuff or loadcell for weight04:09
dr_willisevon:  i recall the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites haveing an artical on that exact issue04:09
nutthe default one is all i know ubuntu 11.1004:09
evondr_willis, you have a link?04:09
ntzrmtthihu777hmm. try alt+right click, or alt+super+rightclick.04:10
dr_willisevon:  other  their search box.. no. ;)04:10
ntzrmtthihu777I have to do that for my precise with gnome fallback04:10
dr_willisother then their sites searcch box...04:10
evondr_willis, figured it would be an easy thing to figure out but ubuntu 12.04 keeps surprising me04:10
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kunjirandimiller: Ah, yuck, if you can get enough info on the devices you could write drivers yourself... but I know you probably haven't got the time for that, and for something like a blood pressure cuff there's the liability...04:10
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dr_willisevon:  i never really  notice the issue..  but it may depend on your player04:11
randimillerkunji: exactly04:11
subcoolhow do i run a program ? ./program isnt working..  or do i have to chown 777 or something it.04:11
ntzrmtthihu777chmod +x04:11
nutntz the first dont work and i dont know what the super is04:11
ntzrmtthihu777the windows key nut04:12
dr_willissubcool:  you make it executable... you rarely EVER want to use 77704:12
nutoh my bad lol04:12
ntzrmtthihu777heh, it happens nut.04:12
subcoolntzrmtthihu777, dr_willis  -- ya.. i just forgot how to make it executeable..04:12
subcooli try to keep it easy..04:12
dr_willis777 is not easy.. its lazy04:13
evonsubcool, i usually right click the file in nautilus and check off the make executable box04:13
nutna neither work04:13
dr_willis!permissions04:13
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions04:13
subcoolevon, good idea04:13
dr_willisthe mc file maanger for the console has a nice interface for changeing modes also04:13
ntzrmtthihu777you are basically trying to make desktop shortcuts, right?04:13
kunjievon: I think I had the problem you're having let me find the fix I posted04:13
nutyeah04:13
ntzrmtthihu777create a .desktop in your ~/Desktop directory, its not so hard. you can even copy the normal ones04:14
nuti need it more easy functional sorta like win04:14
kunjievon: Actually what's your output for xset q     let's just confirm it's the same issue before doing anything04:14
nutdo i gotta b n root when i move em?04:15
ntzrmtthihu777I would use cp because you still want the desktop files to be there too04:15
ntzrmtthihu777like for example, a gedit shortcut would be:04:15
nutyeah but finding all the icons lol04:17
subcoolok.. that didnt work04:17
nuton my desktop theres nothing there04:17
ntzrmtthihu777no, its easier lol.04:17
rockworldmihi ..04:17
kunjiCome to think of it.. why doesn't Ubuntu ship with a .desktop template in the context menu when you right click the desktop?  In the Create New Document submenu.04:17
rockworldmiwhy my ubuntu doesnt show wether capslock is on or not04:17
rockworldmiwhenever i press key no notification comes on deskop?04:18
ntzrmtthihu777cp /usr/share/applications/gedit.destop ~/Desktop; chmod +x gedit.desktop04:18
nuti gknow its odd04:18
xanguarockworldmi: never seen such feature04:18
nuti think the file manager has a prob04:19
ntzrmtthihu777that would be nice, hmm? maybe I should make a zenity gui-based nautilus script to do it, would not be too hard04:19
kunjirockworldmi: Umm, I think it's only supposed to when typing passwords and only for certain ones at that, it's a feature at the program level, not the OS level.04:19
rockworldmixangua: hmm .. can i install any  thord party app for that cause my keyboard dont have lights for that ..04:19
fruitFlydr_willis: so by making all the partitions your mounting the hard drive?04:19
ntzrmtthihu777holy crap, its a quit frenzie04:19
rockworldmikunji: ok..04:19
leon__hello04:19
subcoolok- how the hell do i run this?04:19
kunjirockworldmi: The status is stored someplace, you could probably write a small script to let Conky monitor that.04:19
dr_willisfruitFly:  you  mount filesystems on the drives04:19
leon__Hello,04:20
dr_willisa drive can contain several  filesystems. ;)04:20
ntzrmtthihu777did you see that, nut?04:20
leon__I'm using xbuntu 12.0404:20
rockworldmikunji: hmm ..i am not that great at scripts and all.. but thanks for help..04:20
leon__i need to configure two moniters04:20
subcoolthere is an executable needed to install so i can run a vmware image. -04:20
nutyeah i gotta go back up n find it real quick lol04:20
leon__right now they are mirriored04:20
nutthx04:21
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ntzrmtthihu777cp /usr/share/applications/gedit.destop ~/Desktop; chmod +x gedit.desktop04:21
dr_willisleon__:  what video card/chipset?04:21
leon__nvidia04:21
leon__how do i tell the card?04:21
leon__i would rather just use default if possible04:21
fruitFlydr_willis: so when creating a / a /boot a /home and a swap that's it? You don't have to pick a mount place because / is already the mount?04:21
ntzrmtthihu777the /boot /home ~are~ the mountpoints04:22
nutok ntz thx alot can right click on those and make em go to the desktop04:22
dr_willisfruitFly:  the mountpoint is a full path....   /boot/ is a path..04:22
jon__is there anyway to get cpu time (system time + user time) in perl without using time::hires (the clock function isn't implemented on the platform I need it to work)04:22
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, you should have a copy to desktop file, but you have to set executeable permissions04:23
ntzrmtthihu777*copy to desktop option04:23
kunjirockworldmi: I can help you with getting started with conky, after that it's mainly just finding out where we would need to look for that status.  Or we could try to find that before bothering with conky.04:23
rockworldmikunji: hmm ..ok.04:24
nutsee thats what i dont understand bout linux im the sole admin on it i should b able to do what i want with it ya know lol04:24
fruitFlydr_willis:  ntzrmtthihu777  so it looks like this /boot/home/ + swap? How large should / be relative to /home?04:24
dr_willisfruitFly:  they are not related at all... /home can be as huge or as tiny as you want04:25
leon__dr_willis: did you see my response04:25
ntzrmtthihu777my / is 64 gb, and my /home is 100. set it as you need it.04:25
dr_willis  / should be 10gb+  from my experience.. i always make my / at least 30gb04:25
dr_willismy /home partition is 3TB ;)04:25
kunjirockworldmi: Mmmk, first let try and track down where this status is, it might take a while, I'll be doing some googling and poking around on my system.  Let me know if evon says anything, because I think I know the answer to his issue, and he's still in the room, but he went quiet.04:26
nuti just think its synical04:26
ntzrmtthihu777nut: that's the attitude that made win$ so easy to exploit. you can delete system32 if you want in win$, and that is not a good thing.04:26
fruitFlydr_willis:  ntzrmtthihu777  I thought /home was like the son of /.... what is stored in / that isn't in /home?04:26
nutyeah true but i want it kinda like win atleast to the extent of its freedoms u know04:27
ntzrmtthihu777everything else, fruitFly. with just a / everything is in it, if you make a /home everything that would have been in the home folder under / will be in /home04:27
kunjirockworldmi: Are you using Gnome?  I think the desktop environment may make a difference.04:27
rockworldmikunji: ok ... no i m a using unity04:27
rockworldmikunji: 12.04 LTS .. also i thought there was notifyOSD something for that right?04:27
ntzrmtthihu777if you add a /boot everything that would be in the boot folder will instead be in the /boot partition. everythin is by default inside of /, each partition you add removes that from /04:28
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.... so root would just have sleezy os files in it if I made a /home and /boot04:29
zykotick9nut: oh man, your last statement actually hurt me to read04:29
dchevakok this is working04:29
ntzrmtthihu777yeah. you can think of / ac the C: drive on windows04:29
ntzrmtthihu777I agree zykotick904:29
nutwhy zykotick9?04:30
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: so /boot /home all have different ext4 file systems RIGHT!!! :D04:30
kunjirockworldmi: Hmm, I'm not familiar with notifyOSD, if you run xset q there is a representation of the keyboard leds, but it we would need to write some minor transformation on it.04:30
subcoolplease- this is killing me.04:30
SnarkyTwithi folks04:30
zykotick9nut: windows doesn't provide freedom of anything.  and your idea about no security - hurts.04:30
dr_willisfruitFly:  they can even be on differnt hard drives.. or network drives04:30
rockworldmikunji: hey i found one solution ...http://maketecheasier.com/10-must-have-indicator-applets-for-ubuntu-12-04/2012/06/1504:31
ntzrmtthihu777what happens if you want a custom shortcut, nut? can you do it in win$? I have created a slew of custom launchers within linux to do specialized tasks04:31
rockworldmilet me try will04:31
nuti sry04:31
SnarkyTwithow the heck is everyone?04:31
Vegas3416anyone good with progamming in here?04:31
nutnaw i never really tried to do all that man04:31
ntzrmtthihu777but honestly I now hardly use my mouse, lol. keyboard heavy and alt+f2 is my best friend04:32
SnarkyTwitI'm just wondering if World of Warcraft will run under Wine with Ubuntu 12.1004:32
ntzrmtthihu777whatchu need Vegas3416 ?04:32
Vegas3416got a question on running a 32 bit progam with 64bit ubuntu 12.1004:32
nutyeah ive been having probs with all the commands n stuff04:32
xangua!appdb | SnarkyTwit04:32
ubottuSnarkyTwit: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:32
ntzrmtthihu777I know it does under 12.04, but no idea bout .1004:32
leon__dr_willis, could I use xrandr to set the displays?04:32
kunjirockworldmi: Oh, well that's convenient ^_^, lets not reinvent the wheel then.  I guess try those out and if they're not working we'll do something on our own, otherwise just go with that.04:32
Vegas3416I'm running a Makefile04:32
SnarkyTwitthx ubottu04:32
rockworldmikunji: ya ..:)04:32
fruitFlyntzrmtthihu777: dr_willis I understand you have isos in your /boot. But in what event would you use them? What aspect of your drive would have to crash?04:32
Vegas3416and getting the error04:32
subcoolok- now i need real help. i finally got it to run. im a freaking idiot.04:32
subcoolcould someon pm me..04:33
rockworldmikunji: thanks for helping i will let you know wether its working or not04:33
dchevakI just installed centos and set up irc account just checking if this works04:33
ntzrmtthihu777you should be able to, but you can install the 32-bit libraries on top of the standard install04:33
nuti mean i like linux cause u can modiy it more freely but irritates me with all the permissions crap04:33
CD2000Hi everyone. I would like to know how to reinstall Grub in 12.04. I also need to purge it prior to reinstalling.04:33
Lyxer01nut: better get used to it04:33
kunjiCD2000: purging before reinstalling is not needed.04:34
kunji!grub | CD200004:34
ubottuCD2000: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:34
nutthats my only beef pupy lets u do just that this 1 needs something like that lol04:34
dr_willispuppy linux runs most everything as root.. and you can easially trsh it04:35
CD2000behnam, I understand but it's the only way that I can get it to work. I just installed 12.04 over 12.10 due to system issues...04:35
dr_willistrash it..04:35
kunjinut: Those permissions are important... and puppy has them as well, not sure what you're talking about.04:35
Vegas3416anybody seen this?04:35
nutyeah dr willis04:35
Vegas3416nasm -f elf Homework2.s -o Homework2.o04:35
Vegas3416gcc Homework2.o   -o Homework2.exe04:35
Vegas3416/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `Homework2.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output04:35
Vegas3416/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start':04:35
Vegas3416(.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main'04:36
Vegas3416Homework2.o: In function `_main':04:36
Vegas3416Homework2.s:(.text+0xa): undefined reference to `_puts'04:36
FloodBot1Vegas3416: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:36
Vegas3416Homework2.s:(.text+0x32): undefined reference to `_printf'04:36
Vegas3416Homework2.s:(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `_system'04:36
kunjidr_willis:Hmm, any reason why they do that?  Or they just assume you know what you're doing?04:36
nutive had probs tryn tothe little stuff copy stuff had to b root to move nething just04:36
fruitFlydr_willis: ntzrmtthihu777 I understand you have isos in your /boot. But in what event would you use them? What aspect of your drive would have to crash?04:36
dchevakcan someone give me a shout out to let me know you are receiving this just installed centos and set up IRC account04:36
CD2000!grub04:36
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:36
dr_willisfruitFly:  i put them there to allow easier booting of them.. to test out differnt live cds04:37
dr_willisfruitFly:  or to do an actual install to the hd...04:37
Vegas3416anybody know anything about Makefiles?04:37
Vegas3416assembly language?04:37
nutalright u know like when ur in win u r basically root gettin to move nething newhere and all that??04:38
Vegas3416or is there another room that anyone knows that might be able to help04:38
xanguanut: easier if you just write in plain english :)04:38
nutsry im from the south04:38
fruitFlydr_willis: when u do an actuall install to the hd is it turning the .iso in to a certain file structure in that SAME /boot partition?04:39
jon__is there a way to get CPU time (system time + user time) without using Time::HiRes? (the functions that will give me that in that module aren't implemented on the platform I'm running the script on)04:39
kunjinut: sudo should let you do that and is a bit safer than just being root04:39
dr_willisfruitFly:  it boots the iso same as if i booted from a disk.. i just cant partion that /boot partition.. or mess with it.. i can reformat.reinstall to the rest of the hd or other hds04:39
dr_willis /boot is not a feature of the filesystrems.. it could get mounted to anywhere..  ;)04:40
nutyeah but thats the thing i shouldnt have to steadily type that when i wanna do something04:40
kunjiVegas3416: You should probably pastebin that, it's not at all clear, also describe the problem further.  Also that looks like your homework... we don't want to encourage cheating here :P04:40
dr_willisi could mouint my installs /boot/ to /bubba/  and get to it from a live cd as /bubba/ if i wanted04:40
nutit a worse learning curve then win 804:41
fruitFlydr_willis: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH :)04:42
kunjidchevak: We're seeing what you're typing... but this isn't the place for that, this is the Ubuntu support channel, test in #freenode or something next time04:42
CD2000I'm running 12.04 64bit live from a USB. I'm trying to restore Grub with this command: sudo grub-install /dev/sda but I get error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) What am I doing wrong?04:42
nuti couldnt get 12.04 to boot from usb04:43
fruitFlydr_willis: so when I instal linux and select a /boot will it put its boot files in there? will it be an .iso? or will it just put it in /?04:44
kunjiCD2000: A live USB is not what they mean by a working system, I prefer the chroot method, you can find it here (the 3rd one): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal04:44
TripMine_Help :  I'm out of ideas [ISSUE] 1024x768 is my max resolution. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1595662/04:44
nutthats what i need terminal commands04:45
TripMine_I updated the kernel this morning, rebooted and it's been hosed since.04:45
kunjiCD2000: If your config is actually messed up, then to purge just run sudo apt-get purge grub-common in between steps 9 and 1004:45
TripMine_I assumed it was a module not getting loaded, so I tried to use a the previous edition. no luck.04:46
CD2000kunji: Thank you. I will give this a try...04:47
nutwhy even in root can install utorrent unable to locate package04:48
nutcant04:48
kunjinut: Are you sure you used the right package name?  Exactly what command did you run?04:48
TripMine_kunji: do you have any suggestions for my issue ?04:49
TripMine_nut: what are you using to search for the package?04:50
mike024tripMine_: scared of CLI? if not, look up cvt, xrandr newmode, and xrandr addmode. I'll message you an example from my computer04:50
xanguanut: because there is no utorrent package or whatsoever in ubuntu repositories04:51
nuti used apt-get install utorrent04:51
kunjiTripMine_: Nope, sorry, I know next to nothing about the kernel.  Just a normal level user like yourself that's picked up a few tricks form hanging out here and running into my own issues.04:51
nutah04:51
nutgotta get it from the main page04:51
Guest24is there a wubi for mint04:51
xangua!mint | Guest2404:52
ubottuGuest24: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org04:52
TripMine_mike024: I'm comfortable with cli.  I'll try your protip right meow.04:52
TripMine_thanks04:52
kunjinut: that package does not exist04:52
nutdam that su04:52
mike024TripMine_: the commands I sent you are tailored to my system. Google a guide to make them work for you04:52
nutsux04:52
nutwine work pretty good to run most of the windows based games?04:53
xangua!appdb | nut04:53
ubottunut: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:53
nutthats the only reason i havnt completely crossed over lol04:54
kunjinut: Transmission is installed by default, Azureous is in the repos, not sure why utorrent isn't, not sure if it's politics/technical reasons/ or they didn't try to get in, no idea04:54
nuti know thats messed up04:54
kunjinut: Hmm, WINE is hit or miss, mostly miss for me, it's the only reason I'm still dual booting all my machines.04:55
nutthats what im talkin bout the ram intense games dontseem to work right on it04:55
nutlike the medal of honor games04:56
kunjinut: I don't think ram is the issue though, for instance SCII works fine for me04:57
rockworldmikunji:  yup that indicator works04:57
rockworldmilet anyone know if they want it04:57
kunjirockworldmi: Will do, glad it works ^_^04:57
nutyeah i will have to try n install it on my main rig again and tryin to see if i can get some of them to work but need its own hd space aint got enough room lol04:58
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hariomIs there any way to add: value="" into all lines where <input type="submit" ... > but no value attribute? I have over 100 files and I don't want to do it manually04:59
dchevakhello04:59
kunjinut: Yeah, also a lot of games work well with only particular versions of WINE, their support and site can help with which ones to use for what.04:59
kunjidchevak: Use #freenode for your testing...05:00
fruitFlydr_willis: so when I instal linux and select a /boot will it put its boot files in there? will it be an .iso? or will it just put it in /?05:00
nutok thx kunji will have to take a look at it just instlalled it but dont show it05:00
kunjifruitFly: When partitioning?  Neither it will be a separate partition with a normal filesystem with only your boot files.  If you don't create a /boot, then they will be in the folder /boot in the root partition05:02
fruitFlydr_willis: so when I instal linux and select a /boot will it put its boot files in there? will it be an .iso? or will it just put it in /?05:02
kunjihariom: You should look at how regular expressions work05:03
fruitFlykunji: I think I get it.05:03
hariomkunji: I am able to list all such instances where value= attribute is not defined.   find * -name "*.*"|xargs grep ' type="submit" ' | grep -v value05:04
hariomkunji: But how to modify files at those places where value is not defined is seems beyond regular expressions05:05
fruitFlydr_willis: So in your /boot do you store .iso s and bootfiles for your main distro? How does linux boot up? Does grub have to point to it? Where is grub installed? Can it be installed on the windows partition?05:05
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kunjihariom: Hmm, I'm almost  100% certain in can be done with some combination of grep and awk.. but it's not something I've actually used before, I'm looking for how now, you keep looking as well and hopefully we'll come up with something soon05:09
nutkunji looks like graphics drivers might hinder playn games on main rig i have an ati card05:09
kunjinut: Well I do as well, in my experience all the Nvidia touting is old news and is merely anecdotal these days.05:11
nutyeah ive nevevr been able to get the drivers for it sorry net lol05:12
nuti like ati alot better05:12
kunjihariom: oh... sed might be involved05:13
kunjihariom: ah, yep, the missing link05:13
mohhonerorlkasHello, everyone. Built a PC, and decided to go with linux for the moment until I can afford something else. I05:14
mohhonerorlkasI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4, and am trying to update the mobo's & gpu's driver, but when I run the supplied upate disc, it seems to only supprort Windows. Is there a way to get around this, or do I have to stick with the current motherboard drivers until I get windows?05:16
nuti havnt done it on mine pain n the ass to get connectd to net and dl it all05:16
nutmohhoner it would b easier to just go to each of the manuffacturers site n find the drivers u need05:18
kunjimohhonerorlkas: Oh, you don't need any drivers from that, linux ships with it's own drivers, many are in the kernel.  By default it will use the open source gpu driver, but the closed source binary ones are available if you want to use them instead.05:18
Jack3k3hey guys I intalled ubuntu on a UEFI mobo, and then installed windows by formatting the whole drive, I noticed something suspicious though, in the bios the hdd shows up as "ubuntu"05:18
Jack3k3system is working fine, but I wanted to install ubuntu on the partition I made with windows 8 installer, wondering if it will cause problems now05:18
nutmost all the equipment drivers r found newest ones other than the installed ones05:19
systemcrasheshelctrl+alt+backspace neither... just frozen... http://pastebin.com/T3qQbStd05:20
systemcrasheshelHi: My system has been repeatedly locking up. ctrl+alt+del doesn't work -> syslog -> http://pastebin.com/T3qQbStd05:20
kunjimohhonerorlkas:Only thing you should consider updating for the hardware (at least until you get windows or whatever) is the BIOS, but you can do that from within the BIOS over then net I think for that BIOS (check the documentation that came with your motherboard or just poke around in the BIOS until you find it), so you really don't need anything on the disks for running Ubuntu.05:20
nuti just need to oget another hd to install games to n linu lol05:20
mohhonerorlkaskunji: hmm, I see. I'm curious about a couple of things though. Firstly, I connected the chassis fans (3) to an adapter > mobo, instead of the adapter>fan controller. So how would I access the controls for the fans? Through the BIOS?05:20
nuxninjabakchodi05:20
nuti think it just showss the ones connected to the mb but not the others05:22
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mohhonerorlkasnut: Pardon?05:22
mohhonerorlkasSo you mean to tell me only one fan is detected because I only have one connecter connected?05:23
nutlike ur cpu fanwould be the onlt 1 showing in the bios05:23
kunjimohhonerorlkas: Hmm, fan control is something that some people have trouble with, if they're ACPI it may be possible, but I think they would need to be on the fan controller, doesn't that board have several fan connectors?  BIOS really should handle fans, but some manufacturers disagree... just like it should handle power and etc...05:23
nuti have 4 fans running n mine but it only really shows what is directly connected to the mb05:24
nutonly 1 connected to the mb05:24
kunjimohhonerorlkas: Hmm, do you know how to switch to a different irc channel?  Go to #hardware, this is not really an Ubuntu issue.  I'll go there as well.05:24
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mohhonerorlkaskunji: Had to google ACPI. And okay I'll switch over, I think I remember how, haven't used and IRC in a while.05:25
nuti wanna eventually learn how to work overclocking but need a better fan first05:26
nutim gettn used to it05:26
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nutis there something i need to run after ive installed wine from terminal?05:27
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timfrost!pastebin05:32
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:32
jaequerycan someone please tell me iptables command to  block all incoming mysql port 3306 connections from outside world except 1.1.1.1 ?05:32
arusselI've created a script in init.d that run at boot. This line: su -m tomcat7 -c "exec echo running_exec > /home/ubuntu/test"05:32
arusseldoesn't create the test file, but when I run this line as root it does create the file. Any idea what is going on ?05:33
timfrosthariom: kunji:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1595727/ offers a way (UNTESTED) of using perl to add the 'value=""' attribute.  It assumes that the '>' is on the same line as the '<input type="submit"'05:35
systemcrasheshelI used pastebin.com. Isn't that good enough?05:35
kunjitimfrost: Hmm, yeah, I know perl can do it, but I thought we were going for standard tools stuff, and it is for sure sed that allows it, if he needs more help with it he'll ask I think.05:37
nutwhy do sometimes when linux is running the fans r running extra fast for some reason05:40
arusselwhat is the difference between running a command as root and running the command from a /etc/init.d/ script ?05:40
timfrostkunji: isn't perl astandard tool?05:40
dr_willis_arussel:  many services run as their own user/uid/gid for security reasons. or they switch to the user...05:41
kunjitimfrost: No, it's it's own scripting language, like python, or php, or ruby05:41
rob_parussel: running *as* root or running *from* root? Your question is ambiguous...05:41
Guest69166How can I find out what is my problem with GRUB?05:41
kunji!details | Guest6916605:41
ubottuGuest69166: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:41
kunji!grub | Guest6916605:42
ubottuGuest69166: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)05:42
arusselrob_p, dr_willis_ : I do "sudo su" adn then run a command it 'works'. I have the same line in my script in /etc/init.d, it doesn't05:42
Guest69166ubottu, Im running Precise pangolin, I was updating and watching a movie, PC got frost reboot05:42
ubottuGuest69166: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:42
dr_willis_arussel:  dont use sudo su.. use sudo -i or sudo -s   and what command?05:42
Guest69166loool05:42
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arusselI have echo statement in my script that shows the script running and echo `whoami` output root05:43
kunjiGuest69166: Those 2 sites should help, read those and then ask if you still have questions.  Ubottu is a bot, not a person.05:43
Guest69166now I see >P05:43
timfrostarussel: the SYSV init system stores the script in etc/init.d, with links (usually symbolic links) in the run-level directories /etc/rcN.d that specify when to run the script (/etc/rc2.d/S99test  will run on start, and /etc/rc6.d/K01test will run during shutdown05:43
arusseldr_willis_: su -m tomcat7 -c "exec echo running_exec > /home/ubuntu/test"05:43
dr_willis_arussel:  and that  -m tomcat7 does what exactly in that command?05:44
arusseltimfrost: thanks for the info, but I'm aware of it, it is runnign properly05:44
arusselrun as tomcat7 user05:44
dr_willis_arussel:  so..  the echo command is not running as root. but as tomcat..05:44
arusselwhen running this line after sudo su, the file created as tomcat705:44
Guest69166kunji, The last error message I got from GRUB was that initrd and other commands are not commands05:44
arusseldr_willis_: yes05:44
dr_willis_does tomcat have write permissions to that directory?05:45
mohhonerorlkasWould installing a different Linux kernal wipe the data fro my current OS?05:45
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Guest69166I really dont know where or what to search, I used to run a magical Boot Repair CD but it doesnt work05:45
smallrequesthi05:45
arusseldr_willis_: this line works properly when running as root. It is not working when running from boot, so yes, tomcat7 as write rights05:45
smallrequesti have been directed here by someone as a source of help for a small issue me has05:46
kunjimohhonerorlkas: Not if that's all you're installing.  What method are you referring to?05:46
nutguest id just reinstall the grub and try again05:46
dr_willis_arussel:  as a user. su to tomcat and see if the command works05:46
smallrequest??05:46
cfhowlettsmallrequest, details05:46
rob_parussel: So you're trying to get the system to execute the script as user tomcat7?05:47
timfrostkunji: given the way that some distributions assume perl (or bash or python ...) there could be some debate, but yes I see your point about standard tools.05:47
smallrequestapparently my windows manager has crashed05:47
smallrequestis what iv been told05:47
mohhonerorlkasWell I've heard a lot about several linux flavors, and if possible I'd like to try out a few of them, but not sure how (first time using linux) it would affect everything else I have, if at all05:47
smallrequestfrom what i explained to someone they said05:47
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Guest69166nut, Well, this Boot Repair does that... no results atm. I was updating but accidentally restarted05:47
cfhowlett!details|smallrequest05:47
ubottusmallrequest: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:47
smallrequestok05:48
dr_willis_mohhonerorlkas:  use the live cd/dvd/usb feature and try out the live desktops.. that way nothing is altered on your   system05:48
nutmohhon get the iso and make a live usb of it and try it that what to find wich 1 u like05:48
Guest69166nut, I know that GRUB is broken but, could it be my Kernel_05:48
Guest69166?05:48
nutnot sure05:48
arusseldr_willis_: can I su without a login shell ?05:48
kunjimohhonerorlkas: Ah, you mean distributions.  Well, it depends how you do the formatting of your disk.  Each distribution should have it's own root partition, but you can create a /home partition and share it between all the distributions and keep your data there.05:48
losticebergubuntu 12.10 will not find my wireless card  it only comes up firmware needed05:48
dr_willis_arussel:  no idea. try it and see05:48
brandoneywhy do Banshee and Shotwell start as soon as I login?05:48
arusseldr_willis_: no05:48
mohhonerorlkasdr_willis_: nut , That.. slipped my mind. That's how i first started using this PC untiil I got an optical drive. Appreciate it.05:49
arusselyou can't05:49
nutlol all gravy moh05:49
Guest69166ok ill go for a GRUB reinstall thanks alot05:49
kunjimohhonerorlkas: You can also share the /swap partition, which is a space where data is moved if you run out of space in RAM05:49
nutthats all i use cause laptop doesnt have optical05:49
smallrequestim on ubuntu 11.10 not sure of anything else regarding my version, i cannot move any of my windows, as in if i was on windows and opened firefox and held the tool bar at top with click and hold i could move it around the desktop05:49
mohhonerorlkaskunji: thanks, I will look into both options.05:49
smallrequesti updated my ubuntu to 11.10 and lost this function :/05:50
dr_willis_smallrequest:   tried the guest user to see if they have the  same issue? tryed making a new user to see if they have the same issue?05:50
smallrequestno?05:50
dr_willis_try the guest user then..05:51
dr_willis_see if it  works properly05:51
smallrequestif i made a new user would that fix it on the current user though as i dont really need lots of accts if possible05:51
kunjimohhonerorlkas: It's one way of doing things, personally I'm not worried about losing my configuration files too much, so I don't bother with that and just use a partition completely separate form the operating system to keep my data on.05:51
nutit it works u can delete it and make that 1 ur main 105:52
dr_willis_its a TEST... see if guest works..  see if a  new user works.. if they DO work.. that points to a problem with your users settings05:52
smallrequestok05:52
nutsame here kunji best way to do it lol05:52
xanguasmallrequest: do you have compiz setting manager installed¿05:52
kunjiGuest69166: It would be better to pastebin the exact error, but I personally would just go ahead and try reinstalling grub.05:53
nutlater yall05:53
losticebergdo any of you have a idea about no wireless card05:54
dr_willis_losticeberg:  thats a little vague05:54
smallrequestxangua not sure i do not use linux a lot, just had it installed as dual boot for a while and been using it more often as windows i hate more and more each day i use05:55
smallrequestwhen i went to guest account everything was as it was previously05:55
smallrequestcould grab and move firefox wwhen opened05:55
bonksHey guys, I have multiple usb wifi dongles on my box. How do configure the networks they connect to based off each of their mac addresses?05:55
dr_willis_smallrequest: so  guest account 'worked normally' ?05:56
smallrequestwhen i open on main account firefox opens with top part too high underneath ubuntu settings bar at top of screen05:56
smallrequestyes05:56
losticebergwhen i try to run ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 i eather have no wireless card or it comes up and under it it has firmware needed05:56
dr_willis_smallrequest:  you an hold alt and click anywhere in a window to move it....05:57
smallrequestthats handy to know lol05:57
smallrequestbut it appears now using that method05:57
dr_willis_smallrequest:  i would test with a newly  made user.. i asm guessing the new user will also work properly. if it does.. then you need to ccleanout any potentiasl problem config files on the broken users home directory05:58
smallrequestthe firefox tool bar is detattched from window itself05:58
dr_willis_the file, edit, settings whatever menu stays in the top  bar normally thats global menus05:58
smallrequestas in i have to move mouse to top of desktop to bring up file menu etc05:58
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dr_willis_thats how unity and the global menu works05:58
smallrequestno x minimize enlarge buttons on app window itself :/05:59
brandoneyHow do I stop Banshee and Shotwell from starting as soon as I login?05:59
dr_willis_so  you donthave a title bar on the firefox window then?05:59
smallrequestno it is on the top of my desktop space05:59
Jack3k3is anyone familiar with UEFI bios?05:59
smallrequestif that makes sens05:59
smallrequestlike in the ubuntu menu bar instead.05:59
Jack3k3I formatted after installing linux and the boot device selection shows both my hard drive device and an entry called ubuntu05:59
Jack3k3anyone know why?06:00
Jack3k3does uefi do something special?06:00
dr_willis_so the only  way you  can move it - is via that alt-click drag trick smallrequest ?06:00
smallrequestyes06:00
dr_willis_smallrequest:  so the guest account is not working normally.....06:00
smallrequestguest is06:00
smallrequestthis is main06:00
dr_willis_smallrequest:  i would test with a newly  made user.. i asm guessing the new user will also work properly. if it does.. then you need to ccleanout any potentiasl problem config files on the broken users home directory06:01
smallrequestas in guest was normal as main was before but main is not06:01
smallrequesthow would i clean out problem config06:01
dr_willis_you can try cleaning out any potential problem config files..  depending on how customiuxed your desktop is.. you could just reset everthing06:01
smallrequest?me is linux noob06:01
smallrequesttotally uncustomised06:01
smallrequestjust has desktop image06:02
dr_willis_rename the  .config directoryu to  backup.config and the .gnome* directoryes to backup.gnome and  so forth06:02
dr_willis_that way you  can get them back if needed.06:02
smallrequestwhere will these dirs be?06:02
dr_willis_in your home directory06:02
smallrequestok06:02
dr_willis_use the terminal. or  file manager to rename them. or just make a backup directory  and move them all into it.06:02
dr_willis_ .config .compiz  .gtk* .gnome*       not sure what otheres exist06:03
dr_willis_ctrl-h to show  hidden files in the file manager06:03
smallrequestdont see gnome folder or config folder in home folder06:03
Jack3k3okay what the f06:04
dr_willis_smallrequest:   i said .gnome*   and .config    note the .06:04
Jack3k3i just booted up ubuntu installer, when i installed windows 8 i partitioned the drive to leave 40gb for linux.. the manual partition prepare shows only /dev/sda and its all free space06:04
Jack3k3what the heck06:04
dr_willis_. = normally hidden06:04
smallrequestyeh they are not in home06:04
smallrequestoh06:04
dr_willis_ctrl-h to show  hidden files in the file manager06:04
smallrequestnot sure how to view hidden06:04
smallrequestokey dokes06:04
dr_willis_i said earlier.. ;)06:05
dr_willis_id make a backup directory and move the config dirs to there.. easier then renameing them06:05
smallrequestso iv made a backup folder06:05
smallrequestwhich folders do i need to copy and backup to it06:05
dr_willis_ .config .compiz  .gtk* .gnome*       not sure what otheres exist06:06
smallrequestok06:06
smallrequest2 ticks06:06
smallrequest.compiz-1 i have no compiz without number06:07
dr_willis_so move it...06:07
dr_willis_i dont have the names memorized06:07
smallrequestah ok06:07
dr_willis_and i  am not on a ubuntu machine.06:07
smallrequest.gconf ??06:08
dr_willis_when in doubt.. move it..06:08
smallrequestsounds in same realm of needing move06:08
smallrequestlol06:08
smallrequestok06:08
dr_willis_ .mozilla  is your browser stuff.. ;) you most likely dont want to move that one06:08
smallrequestindeed06:09
dr_willis_unless you  want to totally  reset your browser as well06:09
smallrequestok so i moved which looked like conf files06:09
dr_willis_log out/back in.. see if it works..06:09
smallrequestok06:09
smallrequestwould u say .gvfs06:09
smallrequesti just spotted it not sure to move or no06:09
dr_willis_you cant move .gvfs06:10
dr_willis_ ;)06:10
smallrequestlol06:10
dr_willis_its a special  directory06:10
smallrequestnubins over here thanks u for ou kindness06:10
smallrequestlets see what happens06:10
kunjidr_willis_: What is .gvfs ?  Does it have to do with fuse?06:10
dr_willis_   gnome virtual file system.. all the special locations use gvfs (such as fuse) and so forth.06:11
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fruitFlydr_willis_:  So in your /boot do you store .iso s and bootfiles for your main distro? How does linux boot up? Does grub have to point to it? Where is grub installed? Can it be installed on the windows partition?06:13
fruitFlykunji: So in your /boot do you store .iso s and bootfiles for your main distro? How does linux boot up? Does grub have to point to it? Where is grub installed? Can it be installed on the windows partition?06:13
fruitFlykunji: Dr willis does the first part, but your insight would be greatly appreciated.06:14
smallrequest_AWESOME06:14
smallrequest_u guys are like the goo inside google06:14
smallrequest_it worked06:14
losticebergwhen i try to run ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 i eather have no wireless card or it comes up and under it it has firmware needed06:14
brandoneyAfter some updates, Shotwell and Banshee startup as soon as I login.  How do I stop that from happening?06:14
smallrequest_@ dr willis out of interest what causes something like that to occur06:15
smallrequest_so i know06:15
dr_willis_no idea. ;) differnt settings and differnt versions of the apps.. must not like each other.06:16
kunjifruitFly: Grub does indeed need to point to it, grub configuration files are kept there because the MBR doesn't have space for all of GRUB.  You don't usually need to put anything there for your main distro, but you might need to if you're doing something like encrypting the entire partition your main distro is on.  Grub is installed to the MBR (master boot record) portion of the hard disk, and it will point to /boot.06:16
smallrequest_interesting06:16
dr_willis_they reallyneed a tool to auto mate a  'reset to defaults'   rhing06:16
smallrequest_so the backup folder06:16
dr_willis_bbl.. i got a job to do..06:17
fruitFlydr_willis_: So in your /boot do you store .iso s and bootfiles for your main distro? How does linux boot up? Does grub have to point to it? Where is grub installed? Can it be installed on the windows partition?06:17
smallrequest_keep or can delete?06:17
dr_willis_fruitFly:  when you configure/install grub - it knows where to look beause you tell it where .boot iss at06:17
smallrequest_agree about the auto defaults, that should not be so complicated to do ata ll but thanks brah06:17
dr_willis_smallrequest_:  keep untill you know you dont want any settings back06:17
smallrequest_i have no settings on here so06:18
kunjifruitFly: You could store .iso files there and boot from them if you wanted to, that is identical to booting a liveCD though, so it is not a persistent environment that you get.  It's a pretty neat feature though, and then you don't need a usb drive or cd to try out other distros livecds06:18
dr_willis_fruitFly:  grub installs to the MBR of the hd,06:18
smallrequest_its kinda meh06:18
fruitFlydr_willis_: does grub instally with the linux cd? and so it does NOT take up another primary partition?06:18
smallrequest_@dr wills thanks anyway appreciated06:19
* smallrequest_ is slightly less noob now :D06:19
dr_willis_grub does NOT need its own  boot partion.. we have said this  several times...06:19
dr_willis_theres cases where you mayneed to use a /boot/partion... but thats sort of  rare these days06:19
smallrequest_wow u must get it a lot from the sounds of it, good job to all06:19
jason766go use partition system06:19
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smallrequest_as i said dr will you are like the goo in google except more awesomer06:19
dr_willis_the grub homepage has some detailed docs on grub06:20
smallrequest_:P06:20
dr_willis_'theres no  charge for awsome'06:20
smallrequest_horseam06:20
smallrequest_XD06:20
smallrequest_peas dood06:20
dr_willis_i go tto go work at my  real  job.. back  in about 30 min...06:20
smallrequest_tanks again06:20
* smallrequest_ skips off with the unicorns in to the next channel he will irritate06:20
smallrequest_see ya06:21
fruitFlydr_willis_: kunji So the major reason to have a /boot are to compartmentalize the isos? Anything else? SO I should just make a / and a /home and swap? What determines how large I should make /06:22
fruitFlySo the major reason to have a /boot are to compartmentalize the isos? Anything else? SO I should just make a / and a /home and swap? What determines how large I should make /06:25
fruitFlyAnd linux mint will by default install grub to mbr ,right? dr_willis_  kunji06:25
losticebergy would ubuntu 12.1 not find my wireless card06:26
kunjifruitFly: Yeah, most distros will.06:27
brandoneyCan  you see me?06:27
fruitFlybrandoney:  no06:27
kunjibrandoney: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not testing your IRC client, use #freenode or something for that.06:27
brandoney:-)  Good, my cloak works.06:28
brandoneyWell, I wasn't sure if my question was being seen06:28
kunjifruitFly: The reason for boot isn't for the iso, they can actually be anywhere as long as grub knows where they are.  The reason si because not all of GRUB fits in the MBR.  So you start to boot, your system always looks at the MRB, so GRUB has to be there to be a bootloader, but not all of it fits, so grub is loaded in stages, the first stage points to the rest of grub in /boot06:29
kunjifruitFly: But yes, just make a / and a swap, not even a /home, it will be in /, and will /boot.  You typically don't need to separate all that out.06:30
penguinmani prefer having a seperate /home, but other than that, yeah06:31
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fruitFlykunji: Why even make a seperate /boot? And wont making a /home allow for easier back up and I can point other /boot partitions to the same /home?06:34
brandoneyIs it possible to load an application automatically as soon as a user logs in?06:34
itanosscheck ~/.bashrc06:35
kunjibrandoney: Yes indeed06:36
izx!panel06:36
izxHow to reset panel and reload it in ubuntu 10.10 ????06:37
fruitFlydr_willis_: kunji kunji: Why even make a seperate /boot? And wont making a /home allow for easier back up and I can point other /boot partitions to the same /home?06:38
lotuspsychjehowto defense java exploits on ubuntu?06:38
kunjifruitFly: Hmm, yeah, I guess making /home will make backup slightly easier.  The reason for a separate boot is if you're encrypting all of the rest of your system, you will need someplace to boot to temporarily where you can give your credentials to decrypt the root partition.06:39
brandoneyThanks Kunji.  So how would I do that, or better still, how would I stop Banshee and Shotwell from starting as soon as I login?06:39
fruitFlykunji: could you also make a seperate linux /boot partition and have it use the SAME /home as another distro?06:40
kunjilotuspsychje: sudo apt-get purge java?  But don't do that.06:40
kunjifruitFly: You can use the same /home on all your distros, even if you don't have a separate /boot06:40
lotuspsychjekunji: any other security apps could block java intrusions?06:41
fruitFlykunji: but it will have to be it's own /home partition, right?06:41
kunjibrandoney: itanoss gave you the answer, you put them in your home directory in a file names .bashrc  (it will be a hidden file, note that it starts with a .)  So if using a GUI you can use ctrl+h to see it, on the command line you can see it with ls -la06:42
fruitFlybut it will have to be it's own /home partition, right? kunji06:42
kunjibrandoney: Though there are some other ways it can be done as well, like .xprofile, or upstart06:43
brandoneyThanks Kunji, I didn't know that was for me.06:43
brandoneyI don't see it in .bshrc06:43
brandoney.bashrc06:43
brandoneyor in .config/autostart06:43
brandoneyor in startup applications06:44
kunjilotuspsycheje: I'm not familiar with how the java intrusions work, but nothing is coming to mind, it's very much a user space program, and if they tell it to go ahead, it will go ahead.06:44
kunjibrandoney: Maybe check if there is anything about them starting in your syslog (/var/log/syslog) that might hint about why they're starting06:45
kunjifruitFly: Yeah, it would need to be it's own separate /home partition to share it between distros06:45
brandoneythanks Kunji, I'll look.  Are upstart jobs in /etc/inittab ?06:46
kunjibrandoney: I'm not sure, I know it exists, I haven't really looked into it much06:47
losticebergwell i guess no one else has any ideas eather06:47
fester1hi06:48
kunjilosticeberg: I don't know, but for people that know more about wireless than I do they would still need more details.  Probably at least what the hardware is, you can find that with lsusb for usb dongle, or with lspci for internal wireless cards06:49
dchevakhi06:50
brandoneyI'm not finding 'banshee' or 'shotwell' in syslog, hmmm.06:54
losticebergive tryed two diffrent cards in a dell insperon 600006:55
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brandoneyAny ideas how to easily delete duplicates of mp3 files?  I have 24,000 tracks, but should only have about 7000.  They seem to have 3 or 4 different file naming schemes.07:05
son_can somebody pls teach me how to create a mail server07:12
son_ive already some tutorials and I can't understand how can I change my hostname to be able to reach from the internet07:13
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lasersBry8Star: fdupes, maybe?07:14
lasersBry8Star: Wrong nick. Sry.07:14
dchevakok07:15
son_can somebody pls teach me how to create a mail server07:15
son_ive already some tutorials and I can't understand how can I change my hostname to be able to reach from the internet07:15
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dominic_son_: dns?07:20
anish1307iQuestion: hello i am new in devlopment has basic and working knowlage of programming language persuing finale year in BCA( bachlor of computer application) read the wiki of devlopment process still the question that a want to make career and open source software devloper wher to start as Bug track or MOTU as biginner in This comunity can any one help me...07:21
son_dominic: yes07:21
son_dominic: where can I get free public dns07:22
kunjison_: OpenDNS, google also maintains some dns servers, including the easily remembered 8.8.8.807:23
kunjianish1307i: This is a good place to learn about Ubuntu, but development doesn't go on in this channel.  If there is a particular project you're interested in, then it would be best to contact them directly and see how to get started with that.  If it's Ubuntu you're interested in in particular, then this page should let you know where to look next: http://www.ubuntu.com/community07:26
SEEVTarDoes anyone have any experience setting up ltsp from the 12.04 alternate07:30
icerootanish1307i: i would recommend to have a look at Launchpad, look at some bugs and provide patches (debdiff against source-packages)07:33
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cubhow much ram is best to have while running ubuntu 12.0407:39
john_103hello?07:39
cubhi john07:39
john_103god i'm such a noob07:39
cubme too07:39
cubwhat you having problems with John?07:39
john_103lol how do i install files on this thing?07:39
cubwhat are you trying to install exactly?07:40
john_103i know how to install packages07:40
john_103but the files don't show up afterwards07:40
cubyou can use synaptic07:40
john_103is that already installed?07:40
cubyes07:40
cubwhat version of ubuntu are u on?07:40
john_10312.10 the newest version and the first one i've ever used07:41
cubokay open dash type in 'synaptic' without the quotes07:41
john_103is synaptic an application?07:41
cubyes it's a package manager07:42
cubit's full name is Synpatic Package Manager07:42
john_103where can i find it?07:42
cubopen dash, and type in 'synpatic package manager' or hit alt+F2 and type the same07:43
cubit will find the application and you click it to launch07:43
john_103where can i find synpatic package manager?07:44
UbuntuNewbieSynaptic, not synpatic :)07:44
cubyes Synaptic ... sorry typo :)07:44
john_103of coarse07:44
cubSynaptic :P07:44
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john_103Synaptic.....07:44
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john_103where can i find synaptic package manager?07:46
icerootjohn_103: its no longer used, please use the "software-center" instead07:46
john_103i did but when i install the packages i can't find and use the file07:47
dr_willis_i use it all the time.. ;)07:47
dr_willis_its just not insstggalled by defult..07:47
icerootdr_willis_: but imo on old releases it was installed by default07:47
dr_willis_sudo apt-get install synaptic   then run synaptic from a terminal07:47
dr_willis_they removed it about 2 releases ago..  and aptitude befor that i belive07:48
john_103i miss my user friendly windows sandbox lol07:48
dr_willis_as a default insstalled ite,07:48
john_103ok07:48
dr_willis_item07:48
dr_willis_!synaptic07:48
ubottuA Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:48
icerootdr_willis_: yes it was this big cleanup, where vim and gimp were also removed07:48
dr_willis_actually i think vim is back :)07:48
dr_willis_not sure about gimp07:48
icerootdr_willis_: on the new isos yes but not as default, so ubuntu comes without an editor :)07:49
reed_SolomonI bought a USB to NES gamepad adapter, and a USB to genesis controller adapter, but they both only register right and down motions on the joystick.  calibration does nothing.07:51
reed_Solomoncan't go up or left07:51
reed_Solomonquite perplexing07:52
helmut_hi07:54
aeon-ltdhi07:54
john_103why does the open source community release good operating systems but doesn't leave a guide on how to use it07:59
john_103seriously i don't expect you guys to carry me but i can't find a list of commands to educate myself on how to use terminal08:00
xangua!manual | john_10308:00
ubottujohn_103: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/08:00
john_103thanks08:00
icerootjohn_103: there are so many tutorials and help08:02
icerootjohn_103: e.g. for bash http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide08:02
icerootjohn_103: there are free books about ubuntu and debian, about development, about gimp usage, libreoffice usage and so on08:03
aeon-ltdjohn_103: documentation is amazing for linux, man pages, wikis and forums for pretty much all distros, irc chans etc08:03
icerootjohn_103: and there are manpages "man command"08:03
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icerootjohn_103: its nothing compared to other systems, so please dont say there is no documentation and that the user will not be guided08:03
icerootjohn_103: and also there are irc-channels like this, and these channels are welcoming detailed questions08:04
aeon-ltdiceroot: except in the case of archlinux, they seem to hate it there.08:04
kunjiiceroot: You don't count nano as an editor?  :P08:04
icerootkunji: no :)08:04
icerootaeon-ltd: dont know, never used it or checked there docu08:05
kunjiiceroot: Hmm, well, for non server installs there's gedit08:05
aeon-ltdiceroot: docs are good, they just hate hand holding until you've exhausted all other resources08:05
kunjidr_willis_: gimp is still out08:05
icerootkunji: of course there are good editors :) you dont need vim, gedit, kate, nano, joe and so on and if you have 30 fingers you can also use emacs08:06
icerootkunji: we talked about "installed by default"08:06
tjbiddleCan I redirect find /var/lib/puppet/reports/ -mtime +30 -exec rm {} \; to /dev/null ? The syntax on this is throwing me off - and I can't seem to silence stdout08:06
kunjiiceroot: right, gimp is not installed by default right now, I was saying, nano and gedit are by default.08:07
SenjaiWhat was the arguement you could pass to sudo in terminal to redo the last command you issued with sudo08:08
Senjaiwihout retyping the command08:08
aeon-ltdSenjai: sudo !!08:08
Senjaiaeon-ltd: you know how awesome you are right? Major brain fart.08:09
anish1307i /join #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu-deve, #launchpad08:09
tjbiddleNevermind - Wasn't redirecting sterr properly.08:09
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TRAVISg_Getting an error message with update says failed to download repos I can't tell from the message what is causing it08:15
reilighaHello. I noticed that my auth.log was showing a standard profile being authorized for su stuff. More disturbing is that this was happening when I was not at my computer. How freaked out should I be? I ran rkhunter and found no threats that didn't turn out to be false alarms.08:15
TRAVISg_should I post the error message here?08:16
TRAVISg_W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]08:17
TRAVISg_, W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]08:17
TRAVISg_, W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]08:17
TRAVISg_, W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]08:17
Jack3k3can anyone tell me how to clear out unmet dependency errors?08:17
FloodBot1TRAVISg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:17
TRAVISg_, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.08:17
TRAVISg_sorry08:17
Jack3k3can anyone tell me how to clear out unmet dependency errors?, I previously failed to install some packages but now I dont want them, how can I stop them from trying to intall ?08:17
Jack3k3install*08:17
vedicWhat is the fastest way to transfer files from one server to another (both are placed at far remote locations) ?08:18
TRAVISg_I cant tell what is trying to use an old maverick repo08:18
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vedicWith fast, important is reliability08:20
aeon-ltdvedic: torrent? it's resumable then you can use hashes to check integrity08:20
cnodellI read that running :apt-get remove --auto-remoce package" will remove that package and it's dependancies. Does it remove associated config files too?08:21
aeon-ltdcnodell: probably not08:21
aeon-ltdcnodell: i think you'll need to use --purge but i'm googling now to check08:22
vedicaeon-ltd: Files are coming to a directory at random times and sometimes it can be something like 100 files per minute. Can torrent be made programmatic to transfer files as soon as they come?08:22
TRAVISg_can some one help me hash out this em update my package info?08:22
cnodellI thought --purge was used by apptitude...08:22
icerootcnodell: without --purge apt-get and aptitude will not remove conffiles08:23
mzmzafter upgrading the kernel the "Generic USB Audio Device" is no longer listed when I do    aplay -l   or  cat /proc/asound/cards (as you probably guessed, now I have no sound). any idea what's going on? :(08:23
aeon-ltdvedic: i don't know, but i think you better look at syncing options instead of basic file sharing08:24
icerootcnodell: and its important to know that conffile has nothing to do with a config-file. conffile is a special term for dpkg and does not automaticly mean for example /etc/apache2/apache2.conf08:24
cnodellgot it. So I can run "apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove package" to remove the package, it's unused dependancies and all associated config files. Sound right?08:24
cnodellOK. I am refering to config files mostly living in .etc08:25
icerootcnodell: it should remove everything which is not stored on your home08:25
cnodellOK. But is the --purge option required for that?08:26
icerootcnodell: --purge will also remove conffiles08:26
icerootcnodell: without --purge conffiles will not be removed08:26
cnodellok. got it. the config files will be removed with or without --purge but conffiles will only be removed by adding --purge.08:26
mzmzlet me rephrase - after doing a routine system upgrade I no longer seem to have the 2nd sound card listed when I click on the sound icon, and I've no idea why08:26
icerootcnodell: the conffiles08:27
mzmzbooted into windows 7 and the usb sound card seems to be working fine there08:27
icerootcnodell: as i said earlier a conffile must not be a config file like /etc/foo.cfg08:27
icerootcnodell: apt-get remove packagename will remove everything listed in dpkg -L packagename (without conffiles)08:28
mzmzI've googled around and read the "sound troubleshooting" manual08:28
mzmzthe problem is the device is no longer even listen when I do  lsusb08:28
cnodellAwesome! Thanks for the clear answer!08:28
icerootcnodell: apt-get remove --purge package will remove everything listed in dpkg -L packagename08:28
cnodellRelated, is there a reliable way of finding orphaned packages? I have read about deborphan but it seems unreliable...08:28
icerootcnodell: you mean packages which are no longer needed and were just pulled as a dependencie for other packages?08:30
chanakyaanyone here?08:30
icerootchanakya: /n08:30
l057c0d3rcnodell sudo apt-get autoremove --purge along with deborphan always work good for me08:30
cnodellright. I would like to check on this every so often in case I forget to run the proper remove command or in a distro0upgrade makes some packages useless...08:31
chanakyaI download adbreader . when ./running it it ask for install directory. Any place partiular I should install?08:31
icerootcnodell: autoremove is the solution08:31
icerootchanakya: you mean adobe reader?08:32
vedicWhat would be the fast & reliable way (with option to secure) for transfer of files. Note that once the file is transferred, system may want to delete it from source location but destination must preserve it. Faster solution is better for my task08:32
badpenguin86I need help setting up a local dns server. How do I add dns entries for my local machines?08:32
chanakyay08:32
vedicrsync may be one option that comes to my mind08:32
icerootvedic: scp filename user@host:/path/to/put/it08:32
mzmzguys... any hints? am I missing something obvious? ideas...?08:32
icerootchanakya: 1. why you need acroread? its no free software, 2. it is in the repos (it should be in the partner repo) and is called "acroread", 3. use free software instead, there a good pdf viewers out there08:33
chanakya... I mean I donot have to install adreader anywhere particular or I can install any place I like?08:33
vediciceroot: I think scp is not that fast. Anything in realtime? There are about 100 files coming per minute. Each about 500KB in size.08:33
icerootchanakya: please dont install software by hand, always use the package-manager08:33
icerootvedic: then use rsync when you dont like scp08:34
chanakyaI need adbe reader because an online form is not working properly in other readers08:34
iceroot!partner | chanakya08:34
ubottuchanakya: Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »08:34
icerootchanakya: enable that repo and use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install acroread"08:35
icerootchanakya: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install acroread"08:35
icerootchanakya: hm and why is acroread for precise having this name.. 9.4.7-1oneiric108:36
icerootchanakya: sorry not a question for you, more for the general channel08:36
vediciceroot: How if NFS is setup and destination directory is mounted in source server? Anything that is saved on NFS directory mounted in source will also have it in destination. Isn't it?08:37
cocomohi, i just installed komodo edit but i can't see the icons for the program it just says komodo.desktop on my desktop08:37
cocomowhen i run it the unity dock displays empty space instead of an icon08:38
Bray90820i am getting this error every time i try to install ubuntu 12.0408:38
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed08:38
Bray90820error executing grub-install /dev/sda failed08:38
cocomoprogram runs just fine08:38
icerootvedic: you still have to copy the files from the mount to the local drive08:39
iceroothm, is ubuntu-bug not working with packages from partner-repo?08:39
vediciceroot: I am modifying those files in remote destination server. Does mount in source will inforce to first copy onto local system and then do transfer to destination?08:40
icerootvedic: what?08:41
hozmasterhello I have question08:41
icerootvedic: you have a directory on the source system which will be mounted on the target-system, the target system now has access to this folder from the source08:41
icerootvedic: its holding the same files on the target and they are on the client08:42
hozmasterabout when made log to ubuntu server i got message whish list amount of updated packages08:42
icerootvedic: and now you have to copy the target-mount folder (which is stored on the client) on the local hdd on the target08:42
hozmasterwhere thta information fetched?08:42
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Bray90820i get this error every time i try to install ubuntu08:43
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed08:43
zenbuddh77hello08:45
zenbuddh77hello hilarie08:45
hilarieHello08:45
zenbuddh77first time here...not much chatting08:46
hilarieI am trying to install oracle jre on my 10.04 server, and this is what happens :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596006/ is a full desktop envirement required to have that?08:46
hilariezenbuddh77 If your looking for chatting, they generally reccamend Offtopic channel08:46
zenbuddh77omg, i don't know...do you have small memory?08:46
hilarietry /join ubuntu-offtopic08:47
hilarieThe server has 3gb, but its headless, so installing a bunch of stuff is only going to hurt its security and whatnot08:47
iceroothilarie: you cant use openjdk instead?08:47
Bray90820so is this or that a place for ubuntu help08:47
zenbuddh77just wondering why you dont have umbuntu 12.04 installed08:48
hilarieThis is the place for ubuntu help08:48
Bray90820that as in ubuntu-offtopic08:48
hilarieThat is the place for chatting about ubuntu08:48
Bray90820ok08:48
bet0xHelloooooooooooooooooo! :)08:48
Bray90820so what about my error08:48
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed08:48
bet0xhey08:48
bet0xis normal for ubuntu to boot in 2.5 secs?!?!08:48
hilarieIceroot I am trying to set up something that says openjdk wont work08:48
zenbuddh77have you tried googleing the error?08:49
iceroothilarie: and i dont see a desktop in the list you posted, just basic x-server components wihtout the x-server itself08:49
Bray90820zenbuddh77 i have08:49
Bray90820not much help08:49
bet0xAny recommendation for this configuration of machine?: Crossfired ATI's 5 TB HD, GNome or XFCE?08:49
hilarieiceroot So there should be no performance issues to hit yes? http://library.linode.com/communications/xmpp/openfire/ubuntu-10.04-lucid is what is telling me openjdk wont work08:49
iceroothilarie: you could also install the tar.gz from the oracle website08:49
iceroothilarie: instead of adding untrusted repos and installing stuff from there08:49
hilariebetox w/o knowing how much ram you have, I can't tell you, but check out cinnamon08:49
iceroot!java | hilarie08:50
ubottuhilarie: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.08:50
hilarieiceroot I guess worst case scenario I can go back and switch out for suns :)08:50
iceroothilarie: dont do that08:51
iceroothilarie: sun java is no longer supported with security updates08:51
iceroothilarie: and java is one on the biggest security issue in the world08:51
iceroothilarie: always use the current supported version08:51
Ben64hilarie: you don't need to use sudo when logged in as root, but you should be using sudo instead of logging in as root in the first place. also, 10.04 is old, you might want to upgrade to 12.0408:51
zenbuddh77didnt know that about java...learn something all the time08:51
hilarieiceroot They are still updating security issues, debian/etc just no longer agrees with there liscensing08:52
bet0xhilarieÃ: what cinnamon is?08:52
bet0xi'm old style Linux user!08:52
iceroothilarie: this is not debian08:52
zenbuddh77that is what i said, ben...try ubuntu 12.0408:52
iceroothilarie: and we dont support sun java anymore08:52
hozmasterdo you mean arocale java?08:52
bet0xOnly OpenJDK!08:52
hozmasterdo you mean oracale java?08:52
iceroothilarie: and debian is not "not agrreing with there licence" they (oracle) forbid to distribute java08:53
hilarieBecause Debian refuses to add a prompt for agreeing to liscense terms08:54
bet0xUbuntu doesn't have cinnamon on their repos08:54
iceroothilarie: no08:54
zenbuddh77hillary, do you not want to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04? might solve the issue...reall vs 10 is old and outdated08:54
iceroothilarie: please read the licence08:54
iceroothilarie: the licence says "you are not allowed to distribut java"08:54
bet0xiceroot that is why you download it after agree! :P08:55
iceroothilarie: because of that the non-free java is removed from all distros08:55
Bray90820hum never knew that08:55
hilariewtf... sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre says no installation canidate...08:55
bet0xhilarie wich ubuntu you use?08:55
iceroot!info openjdk-6-jre lucid08:55
bet0x!info cinnamon08:55
ubottuopenjdk-6-jre (source: openjdk-6): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~10.04.2 (lucid), package size 213 kB, installed size 724 kB08:55
ubottuPackage cinnamon does not exist in quantal08:56
iceroothilarie: 10.04 only has jre-608:56
bet0xiceroot, dpkg-rebuild java and done!08:56
hilariehttp://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=6108:56
icerootbet0x: there is no source-package for oracle java08:56
bet0xhilarie but that thing isn't ubuntu08:56
icerootbet0x: its not allowed08:56
hilarieCinnamon is the direction ubuntu should have gone it, so why not make it with a ppa :)08:57
Ben64cinnamon is almost exactly like gnome-shell08:57
Ben64hilarie: you should upgrade your 3 year old OS08:58
zenbuddh77listen to ben08:58
hilarieYou should contact my VPS provider, and tell them to offer it08:58
icerootBen64: why update an os if it is still supported 2 years? never touch a running system08:58
bet0xthere is a cinnamon ppa on debian repo wich works on 12.10 and 12.04!08:58
hilarieAnd make it so beowulf clusters work on 12.04, or 12.1008:58
hilarieWithout a circle of broken dependancies08:59
brontosaurusrexin weechat, whats the command to hide joins / quits ?08:59
Ben64iceroot: because all the packages are so old now, and the longer the wait, the worse it'll be08:59
icerootBen64: old does not mean bad on a server08:59
zenbuddh77agrees with ben08:59
icerootBen64: we are talking about a server08:59
Ben64sure you could wait till april 2015 to upgrade to 12.04, but then 14.04 already is out....08:59
icerootBen64: there you want stable software08:59
zenbuddh77lol ben ;-)09:00
Ben64its true09:00
Ben64might as well upgrade when they come out, you'll have to eventually anyway09:00
hilarieIf you want the latest and greatest, why not go over to sid :)09:00
iceroothilarie: .)09:00
Ben64who said latest? i'm saying upgrade every 24 months09:00
icerootBen64: you are not a server admin?09:01
Ben64i am09:01
hilarieI am saying fix clustering on 12.04 :)09:01
icerootBen64: you dont want to upgrade the server every two years09:01
Ben64sure i do09:01
zenbuddh77ice, why not?09:01
icerootBen64: a good server admin would not want that because "never touch a running system" and specially not because "the software will be newer"09:01
Ben64unless you're going for the record uptime, why not?09:02
icerootBen64: you want a stable long tested system and not the newest stuff on a server09:02
CosmicBwhat's the name of the freakin' restricted driver binary ?09:02
bet0xwich package has the add-apt-repository ?09:02
CosmicBcan't find it in the lense09:02
Ben64sometimes newer features are nice09:02
bet0xi tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable but doesn't work!09:02
hilarieNever touch a running system :) I am trying to convince guy in charge of purchasing to let me get more VPS to avoid breaking stuff!09:02
Ben64new stuff requires newer dependencies, i was having a tough time on 10.0409:02
hilarieHave 4 or 5 VPS to phase newer stuff in as needed, he isn't buying it at 20/node/mo09:02
zenbuddh77hil, that is a problem09:03
icerootbet0x: dpkg -S add-apt-repository09:03
icerootpython-software-properties: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository09:03
hilarieBen64 and when the dependancies are broken on the newer system for critical things?09:03
Ben64thats an imaginary problem09:04
bet0xdpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *add-apt*09:04
bet0xnoes!09:04
icerootBen64: you want good tested software on a server, if you want the newest stuff which is not tested, you should not host a server09:04
hilarieBen64, get a MPI beowulf cluster working on 12.04, and I'll give you a bitcoin09:04
Ben64iceroot: i think LTS is fine, especially if waiting till the xx.04.1 version09:05
bet0xhilarie give me 10 and i will give you my recipe! :p09:05
Ben64its not like i have my server on raring09:05
penguinmanCosmicB, it's under the software center in 12.10+09:05
sgo11hi, running 12.10. just found jockey-gtk is replaced by software-properties-gtk. How to install graphic drivers with the new program? the new software-properties-gtk does not install any driver for me. and the Addition drivers UI has nothing too.09:05
hilariebet0x Wish I could! Cheap bastards with if it's working, we don't need to worry about it09:06
zenbuddh77t/c09:06
Ben64sgo11: what video card? is it a dual-gpu optimus type thing?09:06
penguinmansgo11, it may be you are running a legacy card the proprietary stuff no longer supports09:06
bet0xhahaha09:06
sgo11I am using nvidia card. the jockey-gtk used to install driver for me automatically after fresh install. I just fresh install 12.10 two minutes ago.09:07
Ben64sgo11: need actual model, is it a laptop or desktop? new?09:07
sgo11Ben64, Everything was OK in 12.04. laptop. not sure about the model. Should ubuntu detect and install the driver for me automatically? Why should I know the model? It was automatically done in previous ubuntu release. thanks.09:08
sgo11just checked. nvidia geforce 9650m GT.09:09
figintegrated video cards don't really go with linux09:10
Ben64sgo11: ok, you could use either the 304 or 310 driver09:11
buerhello I have a problem with an installer, it continues past user creation and then dissapears only loading mouse cursor maybe it runs in a background ps axu check revealed some running python proccesses09:11
Ben64sgo11: sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`09:12
buerrunning 12.10 iso from a usb stick ... wanted to do straightforward install only custom partitioning09:12
hilarieBen64, some day my terminal Fu will be as strong as yours09:12
doomedhello, I purchased a domain name. Now i want to setup in my home computer for own email server and maybe web server, I have static public IP. What will be easiest way to do this please?09:12
hilarieDoomed you might think about zyntyal09:13
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sgo11Ben64, then Additional Drivers page has a  list of drivers now. I think it's just because I fresh install 12.10 and the network connection is slow. so the UI needs time to refresh the list of drivers. Why don't the UI has a refresh button instead then? When I see a empty blank UI, I don't know what to do next. It is even not telling me to wait or loading.09:13
bet0xMuhaha! got my XFCE!09:13
bet0xno more console thank god!09:13
Ben64sgo11: i dunno, i just use terminal for that stuff09:14
buerwhat i should grep from ps axu | do see if installer is still running ? anyone09:14
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sgo11Ben64, thanks for your help. I think I can use software-properties-gtk to install nvidia driver now. the new UI is not very good. :) maybe I should install the old jockey-gtk.09:15
hilarieBleh, is there any way to tell dpkg to blank off and try installing it anways? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596080/09:15
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Mike__Hhello everyone09:16
doomedhilarie, I am fairly new to setting up the home server. Is zyntyal will automatically configure Apache2 and Email ...?09:17
hilarieDoomed yes09:17
dolfly有没有中文频道09:17
bet0xdolfly, ok09:17
hilarieDoomed if you would like to spend time learning how to do what you are saying I could point you in another direction, that is turn key09:17
sgo11dolfly, #ubuntu-cn09:18
dolflythanks09:18
bet0xi made a big big mistake09:18
doomedhilarie, Yes sure, I don't even know how to transfer the domain from the registerer to my personal computer09:18
bet0xi just buy a 32" screen09:18
bet0xforgot to check that was a TV09:18
nshinereturn it09:18
Ben64doomed: you don't. you set the ip address(es) in the control panel of the registrar09:19
bet0xcan't use 1900x res.. stuck on 13XX09:19
sgo11damn, I just install jockey-gtk. why there is only doc files in the package?09:19
penguinmanhilarie, you could apt-get -f install, should resolve the dep problems for you09:19
bet0xnshine, can't already tried09:19
Ben64bet0x: what tv09:19
nshinecan't get the refund?09:19
Mike__Heveryone makes that mistake does it have a SVideo jack?09:19
hilariepenguinman the headless default option was just a symlink thingy, it worked well enough09:19
bet0xPhilips09:19
doomedBen64, You mean, My Static Personal computer's static IP ?09:19
Ben64bet0x: use hdmi then09:19
bet0xi'm using HDMI!09:19
Ben64doomed: yeah, whatever ip you want to host on09:20
Mike__Hok09:20
Ben64bet0x: then tell your computer to use 1080p09:20
bet0xhow?09:20
bet0xat ATI Control Center?09:20
Ben64dunno, but its possible09:20
Ben64if the tv can do 1080p over hdmi, and your computer can, then you can do it09:21
bet0xhum09:22
doomedhilarie, I think setting up my own server is good way to learn something new :) ...09:22
McKeto4LifeHello09:23
doomedzentyal is not in repos?09:23
hilarieDoomed Google it09:23
hilarieDoomed and as you learn more and more, you can disable the modules etc09:24
auronandace!zentyal | doomed09:24
ubottudoomed: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).09:24
doomedah09:24
McKeto4LifeCan anyone help me out? I'm trying to find a decent replacement for the VNC/vinagre setup that comes with ubuntu as standard. It's just SO slow and laggy. Is there anything quicker that might work properly with Ubuntu specifically?09:24
doomedThen i need to install ebox09:25
hilarieMcKeto4Life if you find one, shoot me an email at ubuntusucksatvnc@absurdlybored.com09:25
IdleOne!behelpful | hilarie09:26
ubottuhilarie: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.09:26
McKeto4Lifehilarie: That wasn't very helpful at all.09:26
hilarie:( I sorry, I should not abuse my catchall email, I was being serious, I have been bashing my head against that wall for quite some time09:26
auronandaceMcKeto4Life: teamviewer is nice (not open source and might have trouble on systems that run compositing window managers)09:26
brontosaurusrexMcKeto4Life: NoMachine perhaps09:27
Ben64vnc is slow on everything but 100mbit+09:27
Ben64i've heard good things about freenx though, haven't tried it09:28
hilarieBen64 compared to Microsoft VNC, even on 100mbit it feels sluggish, I remember playing games on VNC over lan09:28
McKeto4LifeBen64: WHY!? There are so many complaints about speed. I've never had it run quickly on linux in my 6 years with linux. Ever. Why is it the default?!09:28
Ben64hilarie: windows doesn't use vnc09:28
McKeto4LifeBen64: I thought freenx was discontinued09:29
McKeto4LifeLemme go check09:29
Ben64McKeto4Life: not sure09:29
doomedhilarie, apt-cache search show me that there is zentyal-core .... I need this one or ebox-* ?09:29
Ben64McKeto4Life: vnc is ubiquitous09:29
antonio_hey folks...09:29
antonio_Is it possible to merge multiple .csv files into one?09:29
hilarieDoomed Zentyal recamends a fresh install I am sorry, I can't help you more, I have never tried, one moment, let me try and find you a tutorial09:29
TakeItEZantonio_: cat foo.csv bar.csv >>new.csv09:30
Ben64doomed: if you want to learn stuff, do it all by hand :D09:30
doomedThanks hilarie !!09:30
hilarieDoomed here is the link, please note before you start hitting terminal, the first steps are 1/2 down the huge page https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/zentyal.html09:31
doomedBen64, Yes, But I dont want to start with hard....09:31
diegojsRWHello. I installed trial-boot with Windows XP, Windows Seven and Ubuntu Quantal Quetzal (12.10) on two computers (a Laptop and a Desktop). I wanted to boot Ubuntu through Windows Bootloader. I do it successfully on the laptop, but when I made the same process on desktop, Windows cannot boot Ubuntu.09:31
diegojsRWI followed these steps: http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/09:32
diegojsRWAnd in my laptop, the windows can boot ubuntu09:32
vediciceroot: I think NFS is not a good option for me as remote servers are not on same network (LAN) but are on the internet09:33
diegojsRWI suspect that Ubuntu is recording GRUB at Windows partition, and on dd if=/dev/sdax of=/mnt/share/linux.bin bs=512 count=1, it isn't copying Linux bootloader09:33
doomedBen64, I will try to do it manually after finishing the easy , I always hope you will guys help me :)09:34
hilarieIs anyone here familiar with ignite, and know of something similar in the repos?09:34
vedicHow to transfer files or share on remoter servers on internet?09:34
diegojsRWThen, the question is: how to pass Ubuntu bootloader to another partition? (Then I'll able to copy Linux bootloader to Windows)09:34
brontosaurusrexin weechat, whats the command to hide joins / quits ?09:35
antonio_takeitez: thanks!09:35
diegojsRWI already created a ext partition exclusively to Ubuntu grub, but after installing it.09:35
diegojsRWWhen i installed ubuntu, i created two partitions, manually, one to / and one to swap.09:36
evilthoughtLost all my file on a USB drive with .. "mkfs.ext4 -m 0 -T largefile /dev/sda1 " ... is there anyway to undo it?09:36
thinklinuxhello everyone09:37
TakeItEZevilthought: you can try using testdist/photorec to recover files, but easier to get them back from backups09:38
thinklinuxi seem to have a problem, the plymouth splash screen no longer shows, all i see is a purple screen, then the login screen. any ideas why the splash screen doesn't show?09:38
dchevakwee09:38
evilthoughtwhat does this actually do? "mkfs.ext4 -m 0 -T largefile /dev/sda1 "09:38
Ben64format09:38
Ben64why did you do it if you don't know what it does?09:38
TakeItEZevilthought: man mkfs.ext409:38
evilthoughtphotorec is useless as it puts random names to files and puts them all in one directory09:39
TakeItEZevilthought: so get them back from backups09:39
diegojsRWHow to install Ubuntu 12.10 grub to another partition?09:39
evilthoughtif I had backups, why would I be asking here?09:39
Ben64then... don't run commands without knowing what they will do?09:40
TakeItEZevilthought: then stop complaining about filenames09:40
evilthoughtphotorecis useless for my case09:40
commander_any ideas how to fix this = http://codepad.org/2WF1jVJq ?09:42
figtest09:45
hilariefig failed test!09:47
antonio_takeitez: is it possible to merge .csv files without having to type in the actual name?  like something such as *.csv?09:47
TakeItEZantonio_: cat *.csv >>new.csv09:47
TakeItEZantonio_: or if those have a header line, tail -q -n+1 *.csv >new.csv09:47
diegojsRWI forgot saying: my partition table is: /dev/sda1 is Windows XP, with boot flag; /dev/sda2 is Windows Seven; /dev/sda3 is Ubuntu; /dev/sda4 is extended partition; /dev/sda5 is Ubuntu Swap; /dev/sda6 is the new ext4 partition I've created, when I want to install GRUB to copy it to Windows09:48
TakeItEZantonio_: or if those have a header line, tail -q -n +2 *.csv >new.csv           sry09:48
antonio_takeitez: what is a header line?09:48
TakeItEZantonio_: 1st line of a csv containing fieldnames etc09:49
anonhi10:01
doomedhilarie, I can't loggin to the web interface.... It says incorrect password10:06
doomedi am trying to log with root10:06
exhumaHello all. Yesterday we upgraded our main development machine to precise, and since then X11 forwarding is *very* slow.10:07
exhumaTo be exact, QT applications are slow. Everything else works fine10:08
exhumahas anyone experienced this?10:08
exhumaThere is a bug on launchpad (1077965) but there does not seem to be much activity on it...10:09
doomedhilarie, I can't loggin to the web interface.... It says incorrect password10:11
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hexabitåäö10:16
hexabitoops sorry :)10:16
test__np10:16
exhumaI found a solution to #1077965 and posted it to that thread.10:17
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Bray90820no matter what i do every time i try to install ubuntu it says10:21
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed10:21
Bray90820Anyone know10:22
qasd OK or even recommended to be logged in as root if doing a network test and not being connected to the internet?10:24
dr_willisqasd:  huh? use sudo as neeed . ;)  not really  much  need to log in as root.10:24
Bray90820qasd were you talking to me10:24
agselhow can I change keyboard shortcuts 12.04?10:25
dr_willisagsel:  depends on what shortcuts.. gnome has its settings. and compiz has other settings for its plugin shortcuts10:25
Anomie21Is there a hotkey to open to Unity search? I know it's tap Alt for the HUD - but that one doesn't search through applications10:27
agseldr_willis: I have tried gnome settings. changing a shortcut there doesn't work. is there a general overview of compiz shortcuts?10:27
Bray90820please can someone help mw10:27
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed10:27
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dr_willisagsel:  ive never noticed such a feature in the ccsm tool for compiz.. what shortcut are you  changeing>10:29
dr_willisAnomie21:  tap the super key?10:30
dr_willisAnomie21:  press/hold super for a shortcuts screen10:30
tchaffeeHey folks, I got a new laptop with Windows 8 and am trying to install Ubuntu dual boot. I followed the direction here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, created a LiveUSB, and Ubuntu will not boot from the USB.  Secureboot is turned off.  Have also tried it with secureboot on.  No love.  Any ideas?10:30
agseldr_willis: I want to disable ctrl+alt+up/down as I use those for eclipse shortcuts. default behavior is to switch workspace10:30
dr_willisagsel:  i would think those are compiz shortcuts.. but not sure which plugin.10:31
dr_willisuncleck a compiz plugin in ccsm, see if they still work. ;) if so. check it back on, move to next plugin10:31
dr_willismight be in the expose plugin.10:32
ziloganyone know is it possible to configure hardware FDE/SED (opal-compliant) in ubuntu 12.04?10:32
Osakasa^agsel, CCSM -> Desktop wall -> bindings10:33
Bray90820Anyone10:33
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed10:33
dr_willisccsm/compiz really needs a tool to print out a lisst of all 'bound' shortcuts ;)10:33
Osakasa^dr_willis, you can check all shorthcut with Advanced Search10:34
agselOsakasa^: desktop wall is disabled. should I still disable those shortcust?10:34
agselOsakasa^: thanks, it seems disabling those made it10:35
Osakasa^agsel, if that is disable then unchecking those shortcuts dont do anything10:35
Osakasa^ok, ☺10:35
agselOsakasa^: that's what I thought10:35
agselOsakasa^: anyway, it's good now10:35
dr_willisive seen some ccsm/compiz qquirks where ccsm shows somthing disabled but its still enabled.10:35
dr_willisor visa-versa10:35
dr_willisnot really seen that in 12.10 however. ;)10:36
Anomie21dr_willis: What is the 'super key' ?10:38
auronandaceAnomie21: windows key10:38
Anomie21Ah, ta.10:39
jeryесть кто?10:39
dr_willisits rght next to the  green lantern key.. and across from the wonder woman key10:39
auronandace!ru | jery10:40
lovrehi all10:40
ubottujery: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.10:40
lovreim quite confused here. I am trying to FTP to a server trough a proxy. This works flawless via TotalCommander under wine, as shown in the log output here: http://pastebin.com/bChSs6G9 but I can't do it natively on ubuntu. How can i achieve the same connection in ubuntu?10:40
dr_willisi have several android bt keyboards.. so i dont even have a super key..10:40
Bray90820anyone know why i keep getting this error when i try to install 12.0410:42
Bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed10:42
lovreBray90820: check this: http://tinyurl.com/bbz7jzn10:43
Bray90820i already tried searching google10:44
sgo11I am getting crazy with stupid 12.10. I can not get my nvidia driver work. I did google. thousands of people have the same problem. How can ubuntu release like this?10:45
Bray90820lovre i already tried searching google10:45
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Bray90820sgoll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g10:47
dr_willis                                                  10:49
dr_willisoops10:49
Bray90820i need to go to bed10:49
Bray90820goodnight10:50
sgo11anyone get nvidia driver working in 12.10?10:51
Maakuthhello. i'm not able to get glx swrast working in xvfb in quantal or raring, just keep getting libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast10:52
flintsersgo11: have you tries the restricted drivera yet?10:52
flintserdrivers*10:52
dr_willisnvidia works fine for me in 12.1010:53
dr_willisand 12.0410:53
sgo11flintser, what do you mean by restricted? I tried all proprietary drivers. none of them works. it is always working before 12.10.10:54
sgo11dr_willis, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-high-end.html10:54
dr_willisthe noveau drivers work well for me also10:54
sgo11dr_willis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207042610:54
sgo11many people meet this problem. I tried all the steps mentioned in the forum. does not work.10:55
dr_willisi dont do anything special. so cant help much.10:55
flintsersgo11: yes i mean those. got tangled up in words..10:55
sgo11flintser, sorry, I am non-english speakers.10:56
yann2hello! I have a question regarding oom_killer and oom_adj. This documentation states that oom_killer shouldnt consider processes that have an oom_adj of -17. However I get regularly: ruby invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x280da, order=0, oom_adj=-1710:56
yann2I don' t understand how this can happen, any hint?10:56
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backboxllll10:58
backboxhi10:58
agselregarding ccsm. I have enabled an app switcher, but I still see only the simplest one (not even unity default), where small icons are shown and I cannot select them with mouse. if I choose another from ccsm, nothing changes10:58
mkuzuHello11:03
mkuzuI am not sure if this is the right place to discuss. So pls redirect me if I am wrong.11:03
mkuzuMy problem is:11:03
mkuzuI have two servers. One ltsp and a storage server (SS-lets say).11:03
mkuzuI want the users on ltsp be able to use the storage on the SS11:03
mkuzuNFS, SMB?11:03
mkuzuMy concerns:11:03
FloodBot1mkuzu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:03
vnc786hi..i have attach SATA on running ubuntu 12.04 64bit how do i detect ..11:04
jpwuse pastebin mentioned in the title to paste11:04
mz`vnc786: cat /proc/partitions ?11:04
mz`dmesg11:04
jpwvnc786 i'd use `#fdisk -l` it depends what information you need11:04
vnc786i checked fdisk -l and dmesg but there is sign of hard disk11:05
jpwyou mean it's not being detected?11:06
vnc786yes it not getting detected but power is there to HDD11:07
jpwcheck bios if fdisk isn't displaying anything. Try different cable / port combo's. Is it a new HDD? it could be DOA11:08
vnc786it is a working hdd got from windows machine using for taking bkp11:09
sgo11I tried everything. nothing works. there is another post regarding nvidia driver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-1011:10
vnc786jpw: i cannot restart now but i have swap the port and cables11:10
sgo11I am getting crazy!!!11:10
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ThinkT510vnc786: sata is not hot-pluggable like usb11:10
jpwThinkT510 yes it is.11:11
jpwbut i think it's a chipset thing11:11
ThinkT510jpw: you can attach a sata drive to a motherboard that is currently running? that sounds rather dangerous11:12
jpwThinkT510 indeed it is on desktops when your fiddling around inside the machine but on server's you have hot swap drive bays11:13
vnc786ThinkT510: i do normally hot plug for backup but in ubuntu desktop i trying for 1st time11:14
ThinkT510jpw: ahh, good point, i never considered servers11:14
vnc786in windows normally we connect and rescan in device manager some thing like that in ubuntu ..11:14
ladduo/ I was here last night with a wifi problem. I still have the problem. I followed this guide: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/           . After typing in this: $ readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver I found my drivers is rt18192se. Should this be blacklisted instead of the r8169. I really need help. Thanks11:15
ladduAlso another fun problem: after uninstalling pulseaudio, I have no audio now in my system, even though ALSA I'm sure is still on my system11:15
ThinkT510vnc786: i backup to a sata drive but its in an external enclosure11:16
icerootladdu: the system is designed to use pulseaudio11:17
icerootladdu: so dont remove it if you want audio11:17
IdlePhDhas anyone managed to install gltail on ubuntu 12.10?11:17
icerootladdu: the complete x-server-audio communication is done with pulseaudio now11:17
iceroot!anyone | IdlePhD11:17
ubottuIdlePhD: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:17
vnc786ThinkT510: right now i m having this internal SATA drive so going for that one..and its urgent..11:18
vnc786or else i have to wait till  I reboot11:19
ThinkT510vnc786: why can't you switch it off?11:19
yeehiI want to track over the coming year, and intervals within, the total amount of data up and downloaded on my system. It would be nice to have some stats about speed, too. Which package would be good to install?11:20
jpwyeehi: SNMP and Cacti11:21
yeehithanks jpw - i will check them out!11:21
ThinkT510yeehi: if its for your entire network it might be better to see if your router has those stats11:21
EaglemanI start openvpn with: remote example.com 1195  However when i run netstat -plnu | grep 119, i get this:  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1194            0.0.0.0:*                           14411/openvpn  ANy idea why this happens?11:22
yeehiah yes, the router would have some useful info to, - thanks, ThinkT51011:22
vnc786ThinkT510: rsync is in use..11:22
ThinkT510vnc786: wait till its finished then11:23
jpwEagleman: OpenVPN can be set up to fnction on UDP. This line is listening for UDP packets on port 1194. The socket was opened by openvpn11:24
jpwEagleman: Oh i've just seen the port mismatch11:24
Eaglemanjpw, when i define openvpn to use port 1195 it uses 1194 :S11:25
IdlePhDim running into dependency hell trying to install gltail.  It's written in ruby, so im not exactly sure how to modify the code so that it will install.11:28
pioconigliociao11:28
pioconiglio!list11:29
ubottupioconiglio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:29
ubuntufanhi guys11:30
ubuntufani was just wondering, is there a way to add other lenses to ubuntu search?11:30
ubuntufanid like to add lenses for pornographic repositories such as brazzers.com11:31
LostInMyHeadci facciamo riconoscere ovunque -.-"11:31
DuCHello11:31
ubuntufanhi DuC11:32
ShapeShifter499hi11:33
sidenote22hi all11:33
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ShapeShifter499For what ever reason there are drivers for Mac OS (Version 8 and 9), Windows (XP and earlier), but NO Linux drivers for my Cannon Canoscan D646U        How can I get this thing working?11:34
ShapeShifter499Can I somehow use the Mac or Windows driver on ubuntu?11:35
ShapeShifter499It is a model of cannon scanner11:35
BrixSatHello11:35
ShapeShifter499was working great on Windows XP, but I couldn't get it working on Windows 7 or any version of Linux...11:36
ShapeShifter499I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.10 64bit11:36
BrixSati cant install this "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"  because  cedarview-graphics-drivers : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable. Im on quantal at 32bits.11:36
ThinkT510ShapeShifter499: cannon is awful for linux drivers, like lexmark in that respect11:36
ShapeShifter499ThinkT510, I found a working driver for my Cannon iP2600 printer11:37
ShapeShifter499I edited the two deb driver packages so it doesn't depend on on any cups version allowing it to work with the latest cups11:38
ShapeShifter499but no scanner drivers :/11:39
ThinkT510ShapeShifter499: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-d646u.html11:39
keelGShapeShifter499: Rather than installing the driver - have you tried using a Generic PCL driver?11:39
ShapeShifter499ThinkT510, been there seen that11:39
ShapeShifter499keelG, no...11:39
keelGShapeShifter499: I'd recommend you try that :)11:40
ShapeShifter499keelG, where would I find that?  all I'm finding is printer drivers, I need a scanner driver11:41
ShapeShifter499on google11:41
roothello world?11:41
keelGShapeShifter499: I am sorry - I only caught half of you chat-transcript then. I thought you needed the printing driver11:42
BrixSatroot:  sudo reboot :p11:42
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Guest90437how do I set nickname? ^_^11:42
Guest90437I'm using irss11:42
Guest90437irssi11:42
keelGlike /nick bla11:42
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flclthx!11:42
keelGnp11:42
ThinkT510!rootirc | flcl11:42
ubottuflcl: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.11:43
ShapeShifter499keelG, I found my printer drivers, its the fact that there is a driver for everything but Linux for my Cannon Canoscan D646U driver    thats driving me nuts :/11:43
ShapeShifter499*is NOT11:43
vedicIs it possible to delete file once rsync has copied file to remote server? And this should happen every time a file is transferred11:43
icerootvedic: man rsync11:43
flclcan you please advise me in one thing: should I use Ubuntu for VPS or CentOS?.. I find Ubuntu easier, but my friend says that Centos is better11:43
icerootvedic: its an option for rsync11:43
vediciceroot: nice11:44
icerootvedic: --delete11:44
ThinkT510flcl: ask in ##linux11:44
keelGShapeShifter499: Yea, I hate it when my hardware is not supported either - however you can't really blame Linux, since "everyone" is able to contribute with drivers to the kernel. So in reality it's your vendor, who's the culprit ;/11:44
vediciceroot: thanks11:44
BrixSatflcl:  you like ubuntu, does it fit the purpose? if so why cent os?11:44
CosmicBflcl: and vim is better than emacs :p11:44
icerootflcl: use the system you are able to admin11:44
flclhow do I disable system messages like someone has joined/left room?11:44
ShapeShifter499keelG, urgh..... I can get it to work by running windows xp in vbox but thats time consuming (waiting for boot) and taxing on my system to run11:44
ShapeShifter499keelG, I know...11:45
BrixSati cant install this "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"  because  cedarview-graphics-drivers : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable. Im on quantal at 32bits.11:45
icerootflcl: if you cant admin ubuntu or centos dont host a server, it will result in a public open spam relay and my mailbox will get a lot of spam11:45
efktflcl: It's probably not best to say X is better than X if both are robust and useful platforms. If you're not trolling and this is a serious question from you, it's best to outline the needs of your implementation and compare the benefits of each distro to how they each meet your needs11:45
flcl=(11:45
icerootBrixSat: what is the output if "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"11:45
ShapeShifter499keelG, there is no way to use mac os 8/9 drivers in linux?11:45
iceroot!paste | BrixSat11:45
ubottuBrixSat: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:45
flclI guess I should drop that question, as I have used Ubuntu at least for some time and never centos...11:46
icerootShapeShifter499: no, becaue mac osx is not linux and its a complete different architecture in that version11:46
flclsorry for stupid question11:46
CosmicBflcl unless you're gonna extensively use selinux, and as long as you remember to setup a firewall in ubuntu, I can't really see why CentOS should be any 'better' ...11:46
icerootflcl: there are no stupid questions11:46
BrixSaticeroot:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596388/11:46
CosmicBflcl I'd stick to ubuntu, if that's what you're familiar with, and I'd go for LTS if it's a server11:47
flclhow do I disable messages like "someone joined/left room"?11:47
flcl*I'm using irssi11:47
flcl13:44 < CosmicB> flcl: and vim is better than emacs :p11:47
flcl13:44 < CosmicB> flcl: and vim is better than emacs :p11:47
icerootBrixSat: and i guess the driver is coming from a ppa on your list?11:47
BrixSatyes11:47
icerootflcl: /help ignore11:47
icerootflcl: there are a lot of examples to block those messages in irssi11:48
flcl-_- hate manuals, but I guess there is no other way )11:48
shroudno sane user would irc as root11:48
efktflcl: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Irssi#Hide_joins.2C_parts.2C_and_quits11:48
flclawesome that I got connected here :)11:48
BrixSaticeroot:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596392/11:49
icerootBrixSat: ppas are not supported here11:49
icerootBrixSat: ask the maintainer of the ppa why it is failing with the dependencies11:49
BrixSaticeroot:  can i get the source of the package and compile it?11:49
icerootBrixSat: apt-get source packagename  if you have enabled deb-src11:50
icerootBrixSat: but i dont see the reason why11:50
BrixSathow do i enalbe deb-src?11:50
icerootBrixSat: there is a reason why there are dependencies11:50
BrixSaticeroot:  i just want to compile it...11:50
icerootBrixSat: by putting a line in /etc/apt/sources.list starting with deb-src11:50
icerootBrixSat: followed by the repo url11:50
BrixSatyes there is11:51
icerootBrixSat: you also want "apt-get build-dep" to have all dependencies needed for building the source package11:51
icerootBrixSat: apt-get build-dep packagename11:51
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flclwhy not use irssi as root?11:52
icerootflcl: please dont host a server when asking such questions11:52
BrixSatthanks iceroot11:53
flclit's a sandbox server11:53
icerootflcl: never ever run a program as root if the program is not needing root11:53
cfhowlett!root|flcl11:53
ubottuflcl: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:53
icerootflcl: everything the program will do will be as root, if there is for example a security issue in that program someone can use that security issue to execute something on the system as root11:53
gatorademy new crunch bang didn't let me su then it broke11:54
flclwhen I try to connect not as root I get 13:50 !morgan.freenode.net *** Found your hostname11:54
flcl13:50 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.ubuntu.com11:54
flcl13:50 -!- admin Erroneous Nickname11:54
yossarianukhow you get apache2 debug packages in ubuntu -11:54
flcl13:50 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: nickname11:54
FloodBot1flcl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:54
flcl13:51 -!- Irssi: Not connected to server11:54
icerootgatorade: not supported here, we only support ubuntu11:54
flclsorry11:54
yossarianukapache2-dbg doesn't exist11:54
shroudflcl: for obvious reasons the nick "admin" is not allowed on freenode, pick another one11:55
flclexit11:55
yossarianukapt-cache search  apache | grep debug11:57
yossarianukjust shows.  libapache-db-perl  + libserf-0-0-dbg + alpine-dbg11:57
yossarianukany ideas ?11:58
efktIt's rather elitest (if not lazy) to dismiss a legit question like "why not run this as root", "telling someone not to run a server because obviously they're too dumb" Do they also have no business running linux? But suddenly it's a problem if they sudo apt-get install lighttpd? We all learn through trial and error, and asking questions.11:58
* efkt shrugs11:58
icerootefkt: dont learn hosting a server on a public server11:58
icerootefkt: i am also not driving on the streets before i learn the basics (theory)11:59
hilarieCould anyone spare me a moment and tell me what this will do, I really dont want to install vmware and install ubuntu just to figure it out http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596405/11:59
EaglemanI start openvpn with: remote example.com 1195  However when i run netstat -plnu | grep 119, i get this:  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1194            0.0.0.0:*                           14411/openvpn  ANy idea why this happens?11:59
icerootefkt: on private machines its ok but not on public servers which will be open-spam-relays, warez-server and so on after some time because someone is executing everything as root11:59
efkticeroot: I understand your sentiment but your idealism isn't realistic, and it's insulting to the person who's trying to learn. (Im not trying to pick a fight btw)12:00
shroudEagleman: are you using the "client" option in your openvpn config?12:00
Eaglemanshroud yes12:00
icerootefkt: i am correct, dont host a public server if you dont know what you are doing12:00
icerootefkt: learn it somewhere else first12:00
shroudEagleman: i've just checked my local installation here (with client + remote) and it's not listening on that port - in fact, only the server should be listening on 119412:01
icerootefkt: and maybe the badest idea on a server is to run everything as root12:01
flintserI would like to host a server with ubuntu. Currently i have ubuntu 12.04 installed with apache2, openssh and vsftpd. is it okay to put that pc on my routers DMZ or is it going to cause problems? do i want to just put it inside and open only ports necessary? do i want for example clear os at the front of my setup12:01
Eaglemanshroud, the server is listetning on port 1195 instead of the default 119412:01
hilarieIf you guys want people to stop executing things as root, look at the Sudo system alot better, it gets annoying, and then you find the sudo su command12:01
iceroothilarie: sudo su is wrong12:02
CyLWhat is the name of the mysql client package on ubuntu 12.04?12:02
jribhilarie: probably nothing nice as there's a bash fork bomb in there.  What language is this anyway?  And who gave this to you?12:02
iceroothilarie: and there is no need to execute everything as root12:02
hilariejrib random forum signiture12:02
Eaglemanshroud, the client is connected to the server listening on port 1195, however somehow it used portt 1194 for the connection, which is not even possible12:02
Eaglemanshroud: server:  port 119512:03
hilariejrib so I was right not to run that on a live server :)12:03
icerootEagleman: the manpage is saying that the port you are defining is TCP but your are looking at the udp port12:03
jribhilarie: yes, that's true for any code you don't understand :)12:03
GauravButola  12:03
shroudEagleman: ps ax | grep openvpn and check you're really only running one instance of openvpn12:04
shroudapart from that i can't see why a _client_ openvpn config would cause openvpn to listen on any ports - (except for dns which wouldn't be on 1194)12:05
EaglemanShroud i am running 1 instances12:05
Eagleman10692 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto openvpn12:05
Eagleman14411 pts/3    S+     0:00 openvpn /certificates/openvpn/client/Server-Home.ovpn12:05
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hilariejrib, if I didn't execute any code I didn't understand, I would be stuck using python scripts for the rest of my life, although I don't think I would be allowed to start the interpreter :D12:05
sailok si install antiword for reading .doc files i put the following lines in .vimrc " MS Word document reading12:06
sailau BufReadPre *.doc set ro12:06
sailau BufReadPre *.doc set hlsearch!12:06
sailau BufReadPost *.doc %!antiword "%"12:06
FloodBot1sail: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:06
DJHenjin__Hello12:06
Eaglemaniceroot i see nothing about 1195 in the manpages12:06
DJHenjin__i have a bit of an issue, when i type 'uptime' on my esrver it tells me that there are 6 users logged in, i only have 2 SSH shells opened on the server, the other 4 using 'watch who' are shown to be connected from my IP address as well,12:07
jpwDJHenjin__: run `who -a`12:08
DJHenjin__is there a way to disconnect all shell sessions currently active so that i can change the password with the seemingly malicious sessions being kicked off as well, and have them not connect again12:08
sailtrying to read .doc files with vim but not working http://dpaste.com/hold/903192/12:09
jpwDJHenjin__: it's probably not malicious run that above command first it will become apparent where the logins are coming from12:09
flintser I would like to host a server with ubuntu. Currently i have ubuntu 12.04 installed with apache2, openssh and vsftpd. is it okay to put that pc on my routers DMZ or is it going to cause problems? do i want to just put12:09
flintser                  it inside and open only ports necessary? do i want for example clear os at the front of my setup12:09
hilarie'/etc/init.d/networking stop12:09
hilariebut that might cause issues as your logged in via SSH12:09
DJHenjin__still, is there a way to disconnect all active sessions, so that i can reconnect and change PW12:09
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DJHenjin__who -a shows me a bunch of stuff, some with 'old' in the 4th column12:11
hilarieDJHenjin__ if you would like to DC all network connections /etc/init.d/networking stop should do it12:12
DJHenjin__hilarie: this is a production server, and i need to be able to connect to it again, i do not have physical access12:12
hilarieAhhh12:13
hilarieOh!12:13
hilarieand your the only one who needs SSH?12:13
DJHenjin__yes12:13
hilariesudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart12:13
flintserDJHenjin__: why not restart SSH12:13
bashinate/etc/init.d/networking restart12:13
bashinateor that12:14
jpwrestarting ssh won't kill sessions12:14
hilariesudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop & /etc/init.d/ssh start?12:14
DJHenjin__bashinate: will that kill all current SSH sessions?12:14
jpwyou have to manually kill the parent sshd process that has spawned login for the user.12:14
hilarieset up a 1minute cron job to restart, and then sudo pkill *ssh*12:15
jpw9556 ?        Ss     0:00  \_ sshd: asd [priv] <- Kill this process12:15
jpw9559 ?        S      0:00      \_ sshd: asd@pts/012:15
hilarieOkay, I think my idea's are kinda like duct tape, might work, but these guys are smarter then me, may the force be with you12:15
bashinate px aux|grep sshd12:15
N07aN0o8Is there a .deb available for latest version of eclipse IDE?12:15
N07aN0o8Or a ppa?12:16
bashinateerr ps aux|grep sshd12:16
bashinatesilly fat fingers12:16
DJHenjin__screw it, ill just live with the other sessions12:16
flintserI would like to host a server with ubuntu. Currently i have ubuntu 12.04 installed with apache2, openssh and vsftpd. is it okay to put that pc on my routers DMZ or is it going to cause problems? do i want to just put it inside and open only ports necessary? do i want for example clear os at the front of my setup12:16
DJHenjin__i can see that this isnt helping any12:16
hilarieN07aN0o8you don't really need a .deb for that sort of thing, eclipse is java, if you already have a working version, you just need to download and run a new one12:16
jpwDJHenjin__: How did you get to managing a production server without learning sysadmin 101?12:17
elkyjpw, he ragequit12:17
hilarieflintser ports are really only open if you need them to be open, if you want more security, just make sure to mess with ssh, so you can only do it from your local subnet12:17
jpwoh yeh :(12:17
flintserhilarie: i'd like to manage from any place in the world12:18
flintserroot is disabled in ssh12:18
hilarieYour GtG, just use a strong password or SSH keys12:18
vjacobhiya. what's the correct way to completely reset mysql, mysql passwords, etc. on ubuntu?12:19
hilarieI finally quit using DMZ, and put my ubuntu server in between modem and router, best thing ever12:19
vjacob(I don't mind reinstalling packages, but mysql is part of base no?)12:19
bashinatevjacob : /etc/init.d/mysqld restart12:19
vjacobbashinate, reset not restart12:19
hilariecjacob is data retension neccesary?12:19
flintserhilarie: ok thx :) so it is now exposed at my DMZ... cant do much else than install clear os in the front or put serv behind router12:19
vjacobI'm getting this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5376427/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-var-mysql-mysql-sock-3812:20
hilarieFlintser I wouldn't even worry about that if your passwords are strong, and you keep updated12:20
vjacoband I just want to start over.12:20
hilarie> >>> sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.012:20
flintserhilarie: okay, and yes i use especially strong pw where i need to.12:21
jpwvjacob: What Hilarie said. You then need to remove the contents of /var/lib/mysql12:21
bashinatepurge all the things12:21
jpwvjacob: you also need to remove mysql-server-core*12:22
vjacobhilarie, jpw: I'm trying to do that but mysql-server won't finish configuring, so it won't purge12:22
flintservjacob: maybe remove, install, purge12:22
vjacobhm12:23
hilarieAs my next suggestion involves reinstalling the base OS, I wish you luck12:23
jpwvjacob: dpkg -r --force mysql-server-core* mysql-server*12:23
vjacobjpw: I get this error (adding +sudo in front and authenticating): 'dpkg: error: unknown force/refuse option `mysql-server-core*'12:25
vjacobthat is running: $ sudo dpkg -r --force mysql-server-core* mysql-server*12:25
jpwoh your right just a sec12:25
vjacob-r is correct according to man page12:25
vjacobhm12:25
jpwvjacob: dpkg -r --force-all mysql-server-core* mysql-server*12:25
vjacobah :)12:26
vjacobmakes sense12:26
auronandacevjacob: if you're running mysql-server* then wouldn't mysql-server-core* be redundant?12:26
vjacobprobably. so they removed themselves, but how I reset the mysql password?12:27
vjacobI tried to follow a guide on resetting, but I get: "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"12:27
jpwvjacob: now delete the contents for /var/lib/mysql (be sure to backup)12:27
vjacobthis guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset12:27
jpwthen reinstall mysql12:28
vjacobtrying12:28
jpwpff guides. i've not used one of them in a long time :)12:29
vjacobhurray. thanks jpw.12:31
doomedhilarie, mind for quick pm please?12:31
jpwyou're welcome12:31
hilarieGo for it12:32
vjacobeverything seemed to be setup again now (including phpmyadmin).12:32
vjacobthanks also hilarie, flintser and bashinate.12:33
pioconigliociao12:34
pioconiglio!list12:34
ubottupioconiglio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:34
TheGreyo/ I'm currently attempting to compile this driver from realtek, but when I type in make I get a bunch of errors. This must be quite a nooby problem but I am sure there must be a simply solution to it: http://pastebin.com/VHNnmfah12:35
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simgiociao12:35
simgio!list12:38
ubottusimgio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:38
hillarywhat is the equivq12:38
hillarya12:38
hillarywhat is the equivalent of windows spss in ubuntu 12.0412:38
ggherdovHi all. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS precise pangoln here. How to change screen resolution? I'd like the name of the config program to launch from terminal, since I am using gnome2 (gnome-session-fallback), and the Unity way to do it might not mean much to me.12:39
ThinkT510hillary: what is spss?12:40
TheGreyWhy am I getting these compliation problems: http://pastebin.com/VHNnmfah ?12:40
ThinkT510ggherdov: gnome-session-fallback is not gnome212:40
hilarieThinkT510 I have no idea how that got there12:40
ggherdovThinkT510: ok sorry12:40
hillaryThinkT510, it is a statistical software used in windows. Spss is Statistical Product and Service Solutions12:43
ThinkT510!appdb | hillary12:43
ubottuhillary: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help12:43
llutzhillary: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software12:45
hilarieThis is the Hilary who took the nickname I wanted!12:45
QasaurHey guys12:48
QasaurI have a little problem that is terrible to try fixing12:49
QasaurMy CD drive won't work12:49
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Qasaurlike it won't burn or read the CDs12:49
QasaurIt did work in Windows but not in Ubuntu12:49
QasaurI'm on 12.0412:50
jpwQasaur: Have you got an error? what software are you using?12:50
Qasaurjpw, nope no error at all12:50
QasaurI've tried different software as well12:51
Qasaurthere were some errors at the software but I can't remember them12:51
Qasaurit was something along the lines of like "General Error" or "Failed to write to drive" or something like that12:51
Abhijithi. whats the mozilla irc server?12:54
ThinkT510Abhijit: isn't it on their website?12:55
AbhijitThinkT510, Thank you.12:56
jpw #firefox is on freenode, #thunderbird and #seamonkey is on irc.mozilla.org12:57
Kennet^oi! i have a problem i hope someone in here can help me with i just installed ubuntu server latest release but i get no networking it finds my adapters but i can't get an ip from the DHCP server, i've tried adding the ip gateway and dns manually but it didn't work still no network13:00
Kennet^any help is appriciated13:00
ThinkT510!resolvconf | Kennet^13:00
ubottuKennet^: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution13:00
Qasaurso anyone have any idea about that CD drive problem?13:01
flclis LAMP a stand-alone download? Like WAMP?13:03
PiciNo.13:03
jpwaww cute13:03
ThinkT510flcl: seriously, why are you on irc as root?13:04
flclThinkT510, because I am a newb and I can't connect as a simple user for some reason13:04
flclThinkT510, is it bad?..13:05
ThinkT510flcl: very bad13:05
brontosaurusrexflcl: your dog  may explode13:06
bashinatehahaha13:06
flclWhen I'm trying to connect as user "admin" I'm disconnected from irc.ubuntu.com instantly...13:06
ThinkT510flcl: then change your nick13:06
llutzso they should handle user "root"13:06
jpwflcl: root is not an account you should ever use for general purpose. create a user called flcl13:06
bashinateadmin probably doesn't exsist13:06
flintserflcl: pls just do this: "adduser flcl"13:06
flintser"irssi"13:06
bashinatethat is winders13:06
flclwhat is room number when creating ubuntu user?13:07
Qasaurflcl, it's nothing13:07
jpwblank13:07
Qasaurignore it13:07
ThinkT510flcl: if you really are using ubuntu you should have already created a user when you installed it13:08
dchevakany jabberd2 users13:08
flcl_THANK YOU SO MUCH.13:08
jpwdchevak i used to be...13:09
dchevaksetting IRC Server with jabberd213:09
jpwdchevak: i switched to openfire xmpp server as jabberd2 is a real PITA13:09
Kennet^ThinkT510 yeah.. looks as i should13:09
Kennet^as it*13:10
dchevakthanks13:10
flcl_if I manually install apache2, mysql and php - can I say, that I have LAMP running?.. (I know it's a silly question, but I'm trying to understand...)13:10
ThinkT510!lamp | flcl_13:10
ubottuflcl_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.13:10
brontosaurusrexflcl_: yes13:10
SachiruAnyone know of any web-based free app that handles queues for tellers and the like? Basically, something that works on the browser, so that a teller can keep a firefox/IE tab open in the background, then when he/she finishes, clicks the "Next Customer" button.13:11
ivrokHello. Help me, pls, someone. I installed ubuntu server then i change that. Now, i don't find ip_conntrack in /proc/net/..In kernel all have and lsmod | grep conntrack write that - nf_conntrack_ipv4      14080  3 iptable_nat,nf_nat13:11
ivroknf_conntrack           66307  3 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv413:11
ivroknf_defrag_ipv4         12649  1 nf_conntrack_ipv413:11
ivrokbut file is nothing13:11
dchevakthey have 2 different ones jabberd14 and jabberd2 I think made by different teams13:11
flintserflcl, what do you want to do? basic webpage or more?13:11
SachiruThe guard at the gate gives customers a number, and a big screen outputs which teller is serving which number at the moment.13:11
flintser`you can do a lot of things with just apache13:11
stethoHi I have two questions - 1) I've set up apt-mirror on my home server and it's all working apart from one thing - I can't figure out if it's meant to be like that or if I've missed something. Every machine I build I have to manually add the GPG keys for Ubuntu with apt-key before I can use my local mirror for apt-get. Question 2 - I've also been playing with pie booting - how do I make the pxe booted machine use my mirror during the build?13:11
christoffertja13:11
SachiruNot queue as in the queue data structure, queue as in queueing for tellers or counters.13:11
christofferoops wrong window13:12
Qasaurchristoffer, lol you're swedish?13:12
flcl_flintser, a sandbox, to learn everything myself, kinda...13:12
jpwdchevak: they are completely differen't products13:12
christofferQasaur, yea13:12
Qasaurchristoffer, I figured13:12
flcl_flintser, no production or anything...13:12
jpwdchevak: they share no code at all.13:12
christofferQasaur, from sweden as well?13:12
Qasaurflcl_, is it Ubuntu Server or just normal Ubuntu?13:12
stethoQasuar, christoffer - either Swedish or that's his production password ;-)13:12
christofferstetho, haha13:13
christoffer:d13:13
flintserflcl_: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-313:13
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flintserthat basically covers much of it13:13
flintserbasics13:13
Qasaurchristoffer, yup13:13
QasaurI figured you were Swedish from using tja13:13
dchevakyea it slowed me down a bit back tracking13:14
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flintserflcl_: if you check everything you dont understand on that guide you learn quite much of every aspect13:14
flintserand at the end you have good lamp13:14
flintserand mail13:14
flcl_Qasaur, it's 12.04, server I think, because it is Virtual Private Server, cheap one :)13:14
Qasaurchristoffer, is there any swedish IRC server?13:14
Qasaurflcl_, oh I see! I have a VPS as well :P13:14
dchevakI am looking for something recent I will check out openfire13:15
Qasaurflcl_, I used that to learn Linux, trust me, with practice and time you'll be a good Linux user in no time! :P13:15
birhello there13:15
christofferQasaur, you can  join the channel #ubuntu-se13:15
flcl_flintser, thx!13:15
jpwdchevak: I hope it works for you it will save a lot of time.13:16
brontosaurusrexflcl_: also, there is #ubuntu_server here and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/13:16
brontosaurusrexflcl_: actually #ubuntu-server13:17
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flcl_this channel is awesome! ) thanks everyone!13:19
brontosaurusrexwhat would be a good dlna server? (The kind that does not any transcoding by default)13:19
rob__hi, can anyone tell me how to override the search line in /etc/resolv.conf? everything i've tried only seems to append to the search line rather than totally override it13:24
Nickhi, is it safe to add ubuntu 12.10 ppa to 12.04?13:25
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adiaswinhello nick is not safe13:25
Guest23779hi adlawin, k ty for answer13:26
Guest23779I have forgotten to say13:26
adiaswinno problem men13:26
Guest23779just add the ppa, and choose which app to update13:26
Guest23779just add the ppa to update one app, is it safe?13:26
adiaswinyes13:26
adiaswinits safe13:27
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Guest23779k ty13:27
adiaswingood luck13:28
Kennet^uhm this may be a dumb question but why is there no openssh-server package in apt?13:28
jribKennet^: run sudo apt-get update13:29
dchevakdownloading openfire as we speak13:29
dchevakcant be that slow13:30
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flcl_a guy from #ubuntu-server chaneel is asking where to find file ip_conntrack? It is not in /proc/net/ip_conntrack13:32
jpwmore likely /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack.ko but idc13:34
AAADanielis ubuntu better than Fedora?13:35
jrib!ot | AAADaniel13:35
ubottuAAADaniel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:35
AAADanielI don't know if I choose ubuntu or fedora, any one can help me out?13:36
jribAAADaniel: try both and use what you like13:36
jribAAADaniel: the ubuntu install cd is also a live cd so you can just boot it up and play around to see what it's like.  There's probably something similar for fedora13:37
jpwI don't personally like redhat derrived distributions (although im warming to centos)13:37
jpwbut as others said - use them and decide for yourself13:37
flcl_both are nice. I think you should choose the one that you know better13:38
flcl_although I barely used fedora =|13:38
leifmadsenhey all! I am working on a book, and don't have access to a 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04; I'm wondering if the 32-bit equiv of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/    is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/  ?13:40
AAADanielI use CentOS before as http server, it is stable, I don't know if Ubuntu is as stable as CentOS when it is use as a server13:41
Abhijitleifmadsen, you can search in pacakges.ubuntu.com13:41
norris900ubuntu server kicks centos ass13:42
TheLordOfTimeAAADaniel:  i run a few sites off of ubuntu server - its pretty stable as long as you're not exposed to the entirety of the universe.  :P13:42
jpwleifmadsen: install ia32-libs that will installwhat you are looking for,13:42
AAADanielwhy centos ass is kicked?13:42
TheLordOfTime(basically means FIREWALL!)13:42
leifmadseniptables is not that hard :)13:42
leifmadsenjpw: thanks ya, just trying to determine location of libtdsodbc.so on 32-bit for this book without installing 32-bit version :)13:43
BotaniCarAAADaniel: i'm sure 90% of linux driven corporate sites aren't on RHEL derivates like centos for no reason. Ubuntu vill give you a newer kernel and all that but webserver wise you can't make a wrong decision either way IMO13:43
leifmadsenAbhijit: thanks, I'll try that too13:43
TheGrey_o/  Whilst my system uses a PCI-E wifi card, for some bizzare reason the driver that my system uses is not the pci wireless driver (rt8192se_pci). It uses the rtl8192se driver. What the hell can I do? I tired blacklisting the rtl8192se driver and rebooted and received no wifi signal. Help is muuch obliged. Thanks.13:44
jpwleifmadsen: then `locate libtdsodbc.so`13:44
AAADanieldo you all think ubuntu server is better than CentOS?13:46
leifmadsenAAADaniel: it's definitely different13:46
BotaniCarTry asking same in #centos :)13:46
leifmadsenBotaniCar: I was just about to type that :)13:47
leifmadsenI use both in production where it suits13:47
leifmadsenwhich side of the coin is better? depends if you like the queen or the moose13:47
* leifmadsen is from Canada13:47
jpwlet the opinionated "is x better than y" conversations stop now k thx13:47
ironhalikanyone could help me with enabling my built-in GPS uner Ubuntu?13:47
np8Hi! How can you change window inside a program in Ubuntu 12.10? Alt + Tab is good one, but is there a faster way?13:47
TheLordOfTimeAAADaniel:  you're in an ubuntu channel, we're more likely to suggest ubuntu because of the nature of this channel.  having said this... what jpw said.13:47
ironhalikit's based on the f5521gw chip13:47
leifmadsenhuh, so someone told me freetds pkg was named tdsodbc on ubuntu 12.04, but packages.ubuntu.com does not seem to indicate that is true13:48
AAADaniel#Leifmadsen  please help me when should I use CentOS when Ubuntu13:48
leifmadsenAAADaniel: experience13:48
AAADanielopps13:48
AAADanielI only use CentOS as http server before13:49
AAADanielreally don't know when should I use #centos13:49
mz`ironhalik: http://www.tjansson.dk/?p=45013:49
leifmadsenAAADaniel: it comes down to what you like more and are experienced with more; there is no wrong answer. End of story.13:50
leifmadsenotherwise, it's a coin flip13:50
ironhalikmz`: thanks, this should help13:50
leifmadsen(at least until you have enough experience to understand why you would make a decision)13:50
mz`you welcome13:51
AAADanielrecently I play ubuntu and find that it is really cool, so I am thinking to change desktop from fedora to ubuntu and my centos http server into ubuntu in the future.13:51
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AAADanielis that a good Idea or not?13:52
leifmadsenthanks for the help all -- I'm off to continue writing13:52
AAADanielbye everybody, thank you!13:52
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?13:56
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?13:57
expert_anyone there 2 help me13:59
johnjelinekhihi all :)14:04
expert_anyone there 2 help me14:04
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
FloodBot1expert_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:05
harkirathie everyone..14:05
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:05
harkirathow to use socks proxy on terminal..??14:05
BluesKajHI all14:06
yossarianuk how you get apache2 debug packages in ubuntu - 8.0414:06
yossarianuk apache2-dbg doesn't exist14:06
jpwharkirat: that's an application specific question.14:06
yossarianuk apt-cache search  apache | grep debug   just shows.  libapache-db-perl  + libserf-0-0-dbg + alpine-dbg14:06
np8I just asked few minutes ago, how to change windows withing an app. It's Alt+§ :) (In Ubuntu 12.10)14:06
expert_hey guys how to listen music in my mobile played in laptop?\14:06
harkiratjpw: say for updating..14:06
harkiratjpw: i heard of tsocks.. but i doesn't seem to work.. for me..14:07
dydzEz2_i put xubuntu using unetbootin onto a usb for install...when i try live cd or even try to hit enter on the install option, a black screen just appears14:07
yossarianukharkirat: if you using unity you just need to alter the proxy settings - check the 'network' menu entry14:07
yossarianukthen submenu proxy14:07
dydzEz2_ive googled around, but people are able to install the actualy OS before they even have the black screen problem14:07
harkiratyossarianuk: i have put proxy setting there..14:08
harkiratyossarianuk: but its not working..14:08
jpwharkirat, yossarianuk: that setting only affects applications built with gtk14:09
jpwfor terminal applications it is an application specific question.14:09
icerootyossarianuk: it was removed many years ago (google)14:12
icerootyossarianuk: it seems like its build directly into the apache2 package14:12
harkiratjpw: i am using internet from a server via dynamic forwarding..14:13
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harkiratjpw: i am using foxt proxy on firefox to use net.. but i dont know how to use that port to get updates.. any help?14:13
icerootyossarianuk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html14:13
icerootyossarianuk: also have a look at apport14:14
lunarjarHello, I'm using an ssd and have 8gb ram. Should I use preload or move tmp to tmpfs?14:14
icerootlunarjar: /tmp is always tmpfs14:15
lunarjariceroot: /tmp to ram I mean14:15
dydzEz2_ok so this is wierd, i tried my usb on  a different laptop, the grub menu has like +5 more options than the one on the laptop im having problems with14:15
icerootlunarjar: tmpfs is ram14:15
dydzEz2_ which just gives me a black screen after picking any option on the usb14:16
icerootlunarjar: /tmp is always in the ram14:16
lunarjariceroot: cheers, always thought its on the drive14:16
icerootlunarjar: no14:16
jpwlunarjar: it is on some distro's14:16
icerootlunarjar: it will hit again the hdd when the kernel is swapping the content of that tmpfs14:16
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petaniceroot what /tmp is always tmpfs o.o14:17
petansince which version of ubuntu14:17
danieleciao14:17
nopfhi. ubuntu 12.10 here... i can switch the monitor to standby via 'xset dpms force off'... why does the ubuntu only make the screen black, not switch off automatically from the system settings?14:17
lunarjarhttp://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16244/ I would assume tmp is still on the drive14:18
lunarjarnot ram14:18
ActionParsniplunarjar: it can be if you like14:19
karolyihi, is there a way to configure keyboard to emit updtart events on pressing some special key combinations?14:19
icerootpetan: hm thought its the default now14:19
karolyi*upstart14:19
harkirati am using net from a server thru dynamic forwarding..14:19
petaniceroot I seriously hope it's not14:19
harkiratho ca i use the same on terminal?14:19
lunarjarI want to increase perfomance, so I'm thinking to install preload and move tmp to ram. But I don't see the point in preload if I have an ssd. So that leaves tmp to ram, which might cause problems?14:20
petanwell, at least it's not in server version... not on any of my boxes14:20
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ActionParsniplunarjar: i have ~/.cache/google-chrome in tempfs to speed up web (needs the folder recreating each boot via script but works well)14:21
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ActionParsniplunarjar: also look into settings in /etc/sysctl.conf14:21
lunarjarActionParsnip: you mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1921800 ?14:21
lunarjarActionParsnip: I changed swapiness to 5 there14:22
karolyihi, is there a way to configure keyboard to emit upstart events on pressing some special key combinations?14:23
jribkarolyi: well if you have a command that emits the events, you can bind a key to run the command14:24
karolyijrib: under the character console?14:24
dydzEz2_why is one laptop showing like +5 more options in my grub menu and the laptop that is showing a blank screen after i pick any option has like only 3 options to choose from (install, try xubuntu, and something else) --- the other laptop had like + 5 options14:24
dydzEz2_it has to be like BIOS related, what is UEFI Secure Boot14:24
jribkarolyi: what's the character console?14:25
jribdydzEz2_: probably just old kernels14:25
dydzEz2_oh, the laptop with the problem is a newer laptop14:25
dydzEz2_imma do a bios update14:25
jribdydzEz2_: try nomodeset?14:26
jrib!nomodeset | dydzEz2_14:26
ubottudydzEz2_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:26
dydzEz2_thanks for that info14:27
dydzEz2_imma see if there is a bios update anyway since this is a new laptop14:27
karolyijrib: 80x25 console for example. but i think it's better to know the whole target i'd like to achieve. i'm running an X server, and i'd like to have volume controls without taking the focus away from my currently running application. i tried xbindkeys and fluxbox keys config, both takes away the focus from the current app when i press the appropriate volume keys. So i decided to take the whole thing into the system (maybe init) level, so my linux box should emit 14:27
jribkarolyi: hmm, I use xbindkeys here for that function... After you stop changing volume the window that had focus is no longer focused?14:28
hackerjj14:29
irc4How do you turn off Vertical Sync (vsync) my fps is stuck at 59.014:29
karolyijrib: it is, but i have a panel in firefox opened, and every time the focus is taken, that panel closes automaticly, not to mention that my touchpad is also blocked for a half second maybe, for some unknown reason14:30
lunarjarirc4: install compiz-config-manager14:30
irc4thanks14:30
karolyijrib: these are two strong reasons for me to try to take it into the system level maybe (and it'd be also nice to have some hooks when the volume changes, so i can get the newest volume value when some other application changes the volume)14:31
jribkarolyi: have you seen if the behavior is present in the default unity session?14:32
ActionParsniplunarjar: anything to make the OS use RAM more than slow HDDs14:32
ActionParsnipirc4: compizconfig-settings-manager is the package, use it warily14:32
karolyijrib: we're not using unity, as we are working on a special distribution here14:33
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jribkarolyi: I suggest since if it works as expected there, then it might be worthwhile to see how the volume change is implemented and just duplicate it14:33
jribkarolyi: I don't know what handles it by default14:33
karolyijrib: all i have is a fluxbox as a wm, and everything else i could use from the default ubuntu distrib14:34
ActionParsnipkarolyi: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    Thanks14:34
karolyiActionParsnip: 12.04LTS14:34
karolyijrib: i will be forced to do that if i can't find a working solution14:35
jribkarolyi: can you explain what panel in firefox is closing?  I'll see if it happens here14:35
karolyijrib: open the url bar for example14:36
jribkarolyi: ah, I see what you mean.  Ok.14:37
karolyijrib: does it close in your linux?14:37
jribkarolyi: yes14:37
karolyioh well14:38
karolyijrib: and also the touchpad blocking is quite annoying14:38
jribkarolyi: I'm not sure what your options are.  I suppose you can ask #upstart about advice on doing something with upstart14:38
karolyijrib: will do14:38
dydzEz2_adding nomodeset isnt working14:40
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: what video chip are you using?14:40
dydzEz2_i press e and i tried adding it after the "--" or before it, and tried just deleting the "--" and putting it right after "splash"14:41
dydzEz2_ the newest intel series err 1 sec14:41
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: just intel? not extra nvidia gpu around?14:41
dydzEz2_Intel HD Graphics 400014:41
dydzEz2_no14:41
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: delete the words 'quiet splash' and add 'nomodeset'  without the quotes. Is that what you did?14:42
dydzEz2_i didnt delete splash14:42
dydzEz2_here let me boot into it14:42
pthI have a problem with a broken package system: initramfs-tools has unmet dependencies. This blocks all install and remove processes of apt-get. Any ideas?14:42
dydzEz2_ActionParsnip: starting from 'boot=casper quiet splash --'14:43
dydzEz2_is exactly how it is14:43
dydzEz2_that line14:43
dydzEz2_theres like 3 lines14:43
dydzEz2_well 4, the top one, which is "setparams 'Try xubunu without installing'14:44
dydzEz2_should i delete the "--"14:45
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: keep the --14:45
dydzEz2_ok so it will be boot=casper nomodeset --14:45
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: sounds good to me14:45
dydzEz2_ no go14:46
ActionParsnipdydzEz2_: if you press ESC, do you see the messages?14:46
dydzEz2_i find it wierd that f10 boots it, but not ctrl+x (still f10 does the blank screen)14:46
dydzEz2_it says if i press ESC it discards everything14:46
dydzEz2_this is what it says at the bottom" Minimum Emacs-like screen editing is supported. TAB lists completions. Press Ctrl-x or F10 to boot, Ctrl-c or F2 for a command-line or ESC to discard edits and return to the GRUB menu'14:47
dydzEz2_i typed in nomodeset then hit f1014:48
dydzEz2_on the forum it says press ctrl+X14:49
dydzEz2_which doesnt work for me but only f10, but i guess that doesnt mater14:49
pthI have a problem with a broken package system: initramfs-tools has unmet dependencies. This blocks all install and remove processes of apt-get. It started after an automatic update of ubuntu with not enough space on /boot. Any ideas?14:50
jribpth: did you free up some space in /boot?14:50
pthjrib: yes, I did. No change.14:51
jribpth: pastebin14:51
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pthjrib: stand by14:51
dydzEz2_maybe i have to turn off UEFI?14:51
pthjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597078/14:52
jribpth: apt-cache policy initramfs-tools-bin initramfs-tools14:54
dydzEz2_it worked14:54
dydzEz2_i turned off secureboot14:54
dydzEz2_and it worked lol14:54
dydzEz2_oh nice and the wireless works14:54
mhsHi, please please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:55
pthjrib: OK. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597105/14:56
dydzEz2_god i cant find a song to test if the sound works14:56
mhsHiii14:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
mhsplease please please tell me how to connect micromax 353g data dongle in ubuntu 12.1014:57
FloodBot1mhs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:57
jribpth: run « sudo apt-get update »  You should have later versions available14:58
jribpth: also, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list14:59
vrajeshhey , i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on dell studio 15 but its installation stuck at ubuntu logo ... any suggestion?15:00
pthjrib: update: No luck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597131/  Stand by for /etc/apt/sources.list15:00
capitaninsaneohEvidently I've a /boot at 100% full.  Anyone know how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/z9SypZN715:00
Pici!patience | mhs15:00
ubottumhs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:00
jribcapitaninsaneoh: uninstall some old kernels15:01
pthjrib: sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597143/15:02
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jribpth: so after sudo apt-get update, what's the output of: apt-cache policy initramfs-tools-bin initramfs-tools15:02
ActionParsnipvrajesh: does that thing use the OPtimus GPU?15:03
pthjrib: It is also in the pastbin here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597131/ scroll down15:03
jribpth: that's weird.  Change mirrors for your repositories15:04
jrib!info initramfs-tools15:04
ubottuinitramfs-tools (source: initramfs-tools): tools for generating an initramfs. In component main, is required. Version 0.103ubuntu0.2 (quantal), package size 47 kB, installed size 363 kB15:04
vrajesh<ActionParsnip>: no its ATI radeon   547015:04
SAngeliHi, I have a question I wish to have an answer so that I can start working on. It is explained on this ubuntu Thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12484777#post1248477715:04
jrib!info initramfs-tools precise15:04
SAngeliCan anyone please help me out?15:04
ubottuinitramfs-tools (source: initramfs-tools): tools for generating an initramfs. In component main, is required. Version 0.99ubuntu13.1 (precise), package size 47 kB, installed size 363 kB15:04
pthjrib: Already tried it, but I will try again now.15:04
vrajeshActionParsnip:  no its ati radeon 547015:05
ActionParsnipvrajesh: add the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=115:05
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dydzEz2_oh my god xubuntu sound and everything works15:08
dydzEz2_thanks god15:08
vrajeshActionParsnip: k let me try ... as i am using that machine so it will take some time to reply...15:08
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pthjrib: Changed to main repo. Updated. Dist-Upgraded. It worked! Here is a piece of cake for you: ||||||| Have a good weekend!15:10
jribpth: thanks, you too15:10
dydzEz2_So i had to turn off secure boot off15:11
dydzEz2_anyone know if there are any other things that the windows 8 configured BIOS' have that need to be turned off15:12
dom_hey everybody, wich software do you use for servermonitoring?15:15
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dydzEz2_its so great that xubuntu works right out of the box for the lenovo x1 carbon, a really really new laptop model15:15
dydzEz2_now i just need to figure out what bios settings if any more affect ubuntu15:15
JuJuBeeAnyone know how I tell minicom to use .minirc.dfl from user directories? rather than using the systemwide config in /etc?15:16
dom_does the carbon x1 have a clossy display?15:16
dydzEz2_no15:16
dydzEz2_thats why i got it15:16
dom_oh great15:16
dydzEz2_i think the touchscreen version does15:16
dydzEz2_so i avoided it15:16
dydzEz2_its a really great laptop15:16
FloodBot1dydzEz2_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:16
Picidom_: You have a lot of choices, depending on what you're looking to do.  Nagios/icinga, cacti, mrtg, munin, logstash/kibana, graphite, etc.15:16
l1f3how can I disable the crash report feature?15:17
dom_i'm using a Fujitsu Lifebook S760 13"15:17
dydzEz2_ i was trying to play music on the live usb of xubuntu/ubuntu and it said it was missing a plugin (it was a mp3 song)15:17
llutzJuJuBee: that should be used by default if it exists15:17
dydzEz2_ill make a usb with persistance to test it out more15:18
ActionParsnipdom_: hp openview :)15:18
keelGdydzEz2_: it isnt that new, ive been using it for a few months now - and use efi booting instead, legacy boot makes my grub menu act strange15:19
ActionParsnipdom_: could use SNMP too15:20
dom_is it open-source15:20
ActionParsnipdom_: snmp is, depends what you want to monitor15:20
dom_ActionParsnip,  i want to monitor Windows and Linux Serivces15:21
SAngelimeanwhile I will ask again here the question: I run ubuntu server with mkfs.ext4 filesystem on a raid-1 hd via mdadm but I will be using it mainly from Windows 7 OS via Samba. Unfortunately, from within Windows 7 I am unable to set/change icons.15:22
JuJuBeellutz: it doesn't seem to be using it.  I have a .minirc.dfl pointing to /dev/ttyS0 but when I fire up minicom it tells me no permissions for /dev/tty8 which is the default port15:22
micromWhy do I get "Package curl is not avialable, but is referred to by another package."? and the same for ssh-server and irssi???15:22
ActionParsnipdom_: there is the open source equiv to HPOV, let me find it out real quick15:22
Picidom_: icinga/nagios can do that.  (nagios is the fork which is more up-to-date)15:22
SAngeliWhat do I have to do in order to keep icons and info passed from Windows? Perhaps change filesystem?15:22
keelGdom_: do you want to monitor CPUload, NICload etc. = Use SNMP15:22
dom_ActionParsnip: Yes but, icinga has a better Web-Interface15:23
keelGdom_: if you want to monitor how the service is doing, use syslog15:23
ActionParsnipdom_: nagios15:23
dydzEz2_keelg: i just went into my bios and found "load optimized defaults" and there was a subsection that said "enalbe optomized defaults for windows 8" aka taking windows 8 into consideration for the optomized defaults, I disabled that and loaded the "regular" optomized defaults and now grub acts normal and everything boots and works15:23
bogi-+1 for syslog15:23
keelGdydzEz2_: I have the model, which no Win8 Compa support - it was still an issue for me, however disabling Legacy boot (BIOS boot) solved the problem, and decreased boot time consideribly15:24
dom_bogi-: i need to monitor windows servers too15:24
nb-bendoes anyone have a recommendation for a WAN-based distributed filesystem?15:24
ActionParsnipdom_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nagios15:24
dydzEz2_yeah what i did, as described, turned off legacy boot -- so we're both good!15:24
bogi-dom_, then use nagius...my friend sys admin is satisfied with it15:25
ActionParsnipnb-ben: http://serverfault.com/questions/36065/which-distributed-file-system-as-a-backend-for-cloud-computing15:25
keelGdydzEz2_: Optimized Defaults for Win8 is primarily activating Secure-boot (and EFI too, if set to legacy)15:25
dom_ok great. ActionParsnip and bogi-  thanks15:26
nb-benthank you ActionParsnip15:26
jhutchins_wkIs it normal for NIS to return duplicate entries in hosts.byname?15:26
dydzEz2_keelg: are you saying im missing something?15:27
llutzJuJuBee: just a guess, does it even try to read minirc.dfl? "strace -e open -f minicom 2>&1 |grep minirc"15:27
bogi-dom_, explore a lil more before dive into it...15:27
motzhi. I'm on ubuntu 12.04. My touchpad gets stuck while I'm working. How can fix it?15:28
alexidoiahi there, I am running ubuntu mainly as a media center to watch movies and listening music. I am pretty happy but my system starts to be a bit slow, 1) what soft could I use to see if the problem is a lack or RAM or CPU or else, I like to update my box but do not want to change the whole computer15:28
JuJuBeellutz: let me check15:28
dom_bogi-: i allready have a icinga test enviroment15:28
bogi-dom_, np...i have same dillema like u...before i look some amazon cloud services(or maybe develop for heroku and bypass all that work)15:29
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keelGdydzEz2_: Dno really - I am merely commenting on your X1C experience and recommending EFI boot, and I have a feeling you are booting legacy :)15:30
alexidoiaany soft ot check the system in real time, CPU RAM etc15:30
samlhey, how do I remove mysql from starting on boot?15:30
samli want to manually start it15:30
keelGalexidoia: Local machine or remote?15:31
dydzEz2_keelg: oh i see, i was a bit confused -- ill write down what you said and check that out15:31
SirCluelesshi guys, i am trying to run AMD catalyst in low-graphics mode, but my desktop doesn't show up when I do15:31
JuJuBeellutz: thanks, I forgot to name the user config .minirc.dfl (left off leading . )15:31
alexidoiakeelG,  locql15:31
alexidoialocal15:31
SirCluelessif I run: sudo aticonfig --px-igpu15:31
dom_alexidoia: top or htop15:31
SirCluelessthen the desktop stops loading15:31
llutzJuJuBee: those simple things...15:31
motzhi. I'm on ubuntu 12.04. My touchpad gets stuck while I'm working. How can fix it?15:32
micromare the repositories down? I keep getting "Package so-and-so is not available..." when I sudo apt-get...15:32
alexidoiadom_ : any GUI app ?15:32
keelGalexidoia: Fancy or basic? Cause you have a few options; System Montior (Gnome), Conky or commandline: top15:32
SirCluelessanyone here know a lot about fglrx?15:33
genii-aroundmicrom: Does sudo apt-get update complete successfully?15:33
JuJuBeellutz: yep... :O15:33
dom_alexidoia, http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/10-useful-application-indicators-for.html15:33
alexidoiaKeelG : My box is customised, but running slow and old. I like to change CPU RAM, etc and I like a soft that tells me what the priority15:33
dom_alexidoia, look at the system indicator15:33
micromgenii-around: no, it gives up.15:33
keelGalexidoia: most of the time, when a machine is old and you are mostly doing word processing and web browsing etc. general workload/entertainment - then its usually the disk, and not the mem or cpu which is the bottleneck15:34
keelGalexidoia: especially if its an old mechinal harddrive, it is proberly makin a lot of error-correction15:35
alexidoiakeelG, nope I got good disk and works with new external ones in firewire they are 26% full15:35
genii-aroundmicrom: Some connectivity issue most likely then. Can you ping archive.ubuntu.com ?15:35
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alexidoiakeelG: I use my box as a media center, watching movie, and listening to music15:36
alexidoiait goes OK just the system is slow, when I open apps, move windows, etc...15:36
RasuL.15:36
keelGalexidoia: and what is lagging? However, you can use tools like mentioned before; htop, top, iotop etc.15:36
keelGalexidoia: sounds like your video is not hardware accelerated15:37
alexidoiaI am using system monitor, that is cool15:37
alexidoiakeelG you mean the video card ?15:37
alexidoiakeelG ?15:39
keelGalexidoia: yea, it sounds like your videocard is either "not supported" or you haven't installed the correct driver for your system15:39
alexidoiaI am in 32-bit, does it matter for what I do ?15:40
avinashcan any one say the use of shared memory?15:40
avinashi want to know about shared memory]15:40
alexidoiaRAM 2.GiB Processor Intel Core 2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40Ghz x 215:40
compdoc32bit is fine, unless you have more than 3G of ram15:40
micromgenii-around: I can ping yes.15:41
alexidoiacompdoc, OK and what about the CPU15:41
ggherdov_Hi all. I have done this a hundred times but *always* forgot how. I need to change the language and keyboard layout for *all users*, *system wide*. What was the trick?15:41
compdocalexidoia, sorry, I wasnt following the conversation. What about your Intel Core 2?15:42
genii-aroundmicrom: Can you ping the local mirror that apt-get is trying to use?15:42
alexidoiakeelG, I bought it a few month back, and I think I choose one that is reconized, how can I check this15:42
alexidoiacompoc, I am trying to upgrade my box and need advise on what to change in priority, CPU, RAM, MotherBoard ?15:43
micromgenii-around: how do I know what the mirror is?15:43
keelGalexidoia: you check the correct driver module is loaded into your kernel15:43
keelGalexidoia: lsmod = will show you loaded modules, however you will need to google what the module is called :)15:43
alexidoiacompoc, I use my box as a media center on a SONY Bravia TV via HDMI and a stereo HI FI system15:44
genii-aroundmicrom:The name of it should be in your /etc/apt/sources.list file15:44
alexidoiaI have huge external disk for storage15:44
alexidoiakeelG, nvidia15:45
martin__1greetings. i just installed this operating system via the netinstall method and this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597443/15:45
martin__1how may i resolve this, please?15:45
micromgenii-around: I can ping them all except archive.getdeb.net15:46
alexidoiacompoc gone ?15:46
keelGalexidoia: have you installed the propriatary driver+15:46
vrajeshActionParsnip: hey u there...? as u told me i have tried "radeon.nomodset=1" but it doesnt work...15:47
alexidoiakeelG, yes15:47
keelGalexidoia: and moving windows still lag? If so, it might be because your Xorg.conf is still using the incorrect driver15:48
alexidoiakeelG, I dont think I have a problem with that, my system is actually OK, I just want it to be more reactive15:48
keelGalexidoia: I am not sure, what your exact problem is then ;/15:48
keelGor what kinda of a fix you might be looking for15:49
alexidoiakeelG, I found everything to be too slow for me :)15:49
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alexidoiakeelG, what do you think of my CPU and RAM for what I do ?15:49
keelGalexidoia: everything is relative in that sense :)15:49
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genii-aroundmicrom: I'd comment that one out then, with a # at the beginning. It's also possible that the packagename you are using to try and install doesn't exist. You can check that with apt-get policy <packagename>. If it doesn't exist you can try finding which package might contain what you're looking for with apt-cache search <packagename>15:49
mattb_dfad15:49
keelGalexidoia: you should first describe you exact system setup, and what you are trying to accomplish and how - and why you might think that it should react differently. Your question is easy to give, but hard to answer without all the infomartion :)15:50
ActionParsnipvrajesh: try:  radeon.blacklist=115:51
martin__1greetings. i just installed this operating system via the netinstall method and this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597443/ - how is this resolved, please?15:51
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alexidoiaKeelG, ok just one question before doing that, in system monitor, my Swap is not available, normal ?15:51
ActionParsnipmartin__1: is that installing on a base system, or is it in the desktop OS you made after the net install15:52
vrajeshActionParsnip:  when i tried "radeon.bnomodeset=1" it stuck at bluetooth module... and i think it might cause problem ... as broadcom bluetooth is not supported in ubuntu...15:53
martin__1ActionParsnip: the base installed fine. the problems started occuring when i opted to install a bunch of packages at install time15:53
martin__1ActionParsnip: aptitude failed during the install, as did grub (i had to manually install here) - managed to get into x, but these problems remain15:54
LeDhello, help: ubuntu server 12.4 freezes at 72% (configuring apt) with HP ProLiant dl360p gen815:54
mavenskmartin__1: try "apt-get -f install"15:55
martin__1mavensk: heh. done that multiple times, but thanks15:55
genii-aroundLeD: If you switch to console 4 with alt-f4 does it have any useful error message?15:55
vrajeshActionParsnip:  and yes i forgot to tell u that i am not able to use it as live usb also... while it works in other devices...15:56
LeDnot respond any key command15:56
mavenskmartin__1: hmm.. look at /etc/apt/sources.list15:57
keelGalexidoia: either its cause you haven't havent created a swap partition, or you have turned it off (swapon /dev/sdX, and swapoff)15:57
genii-aroundLeD: Are the three lights on your keyboard blinking on and off?15:57
HankHendrixWhere can I ask questions about IceCast on Ubuntu?15:58
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keelGalexidoia: Anyhow, I have to go now - sorry I couldn't be of more help15:58
martin__1mavensk: looks fine to me, although i am not overly familiar with this OS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1597539/15:58
LeDnot remember15:58
LeDkeyboard not responding15:59
martin__1kinda tempted to just start over. install a base... reboot. -then- pull my packages in. just took 2 hours to grab everything, though :(15:59
dr_jesus1;2c/win 10016:00
genii-aroundLeD: If the capslock,scroll lock, and numlock keys are all three blinking it means the kernel had a panic problem.16:00
martin__1yeah, these are pretty critical errors here. the error miniwindow (apport?) has gone into a loop on itsself16:01
mavenskmartin__1: try "apt-get -f install wamerican-insane"16:03
martin__1mavensk: i think you just won :)16:05
FergusLis there a chat channel for #ubuntu ?16:05
vipkillaso is there a way to restrict user commands16:05
vrajeshActionParsnip: i have tried "radeon.blacklist=1" but still no progress.....16:05
FergusLI have a terribly off-topic question ton ask :-)16:05
vipkillai want to give some users ability to restart two services, nginx and php-fpm16:05
martin__1mavensk: aptitude -f install returned as expecpted. just going down for a reboot. will brb16:06
martin__1*expected16:06
alexidoiakeelG, for example, when I click on the icon of the home folder within the ubuntu dock bar, it takes about 4s before it actually open the windows.16:06
alexidoiaSame for most apps16:06
kostkon!ot | FergusL16:06
ubottuFergusL: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:06
FergusLthanks kostkon & his very reactive ubottu friend !16:07
flcl_how to configure firewall on 12.04?16:08
compdocUFW is easy16:09
compdocUncomplicatedFirewall16:10
flcl_can't find UFW... I am looking for simplest way, I am a total newbie16:10
flcl_and I have only shell access. When I try to connect to my server via TightVNC I only see shell...16:11
ThinkT510!ufw | flcl_16:13
ubottuflcl_: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.16:13
alexidoiaOK guys, here is my system : motherboard GiGabyte P35-DS3P + Intel Core 2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40Ghz x 2 2Gig of RAM, the whole in a Antex P180 box, initial concern silence since I use it as a media center. My video card is a Asus 1Gb DDR3 210 silent and I have a Sony TV plugin in HDMI. I want to upgrade my hardware and dont know what to replace first.16:15
LeDgenii-around: sorry, try again just freezes environment, other terminal works16:15
vrajeshActionParsnip: tried "radeon.blacklist=1" but still not working.16:15
compdocalexidoia, juast not fast enough?16:15
compdocjust16:15
alexidoiaI dont think so, no16:16
alexidoiacompoc, as I said if I click on the home folder icon from the dock bar, it takes 3 to 4s to open the windows16:16
alexidoiacompoc, you said that because you think my system is okay ?16:17
compdocalexidoia, you could start with an ssd if your board supports ahci in the bios. that might might be all the boost you need16:17
alexidoiacompoc a ssd ?16:18
Kurodawi Kuroda16:18
compdocsolid state drive16:18
pltrchhello, how can i set xfce as the default desktop?16:19
jribpltrch: just choose it at the login screen, it should be remembered16:20
pltrchthere's nothing like that menu on my login screen16:21
pltrchit was used to be exist before i upgrade to 12.1016:21
dydzEz2_fresh copy of xubuntu or ubuntu, do i have to install codecs manually16:22
compdocalexidoia, but if youre going to upgrade the cpu, youre going to have to upgrade most things at once: motherboard, cpu, ram. And dont use those old sata or IDE hard drives - they'll only hold it back16:22
dydzEz2_to play mp3s and avi's16:22
jribpltrch: it's like a circle or a gear you press16:22
jrib!restricted | dydzEz2_16:22
xxiaothis totally puzzles me, on a 32bit netbook, wubi could never find a local iso or xz download16:22
ubottudydzEz2_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:22
xxiaoif i just run wubi, it then grabs a amd-64bit iso?!!16:22
ActionParsnipxxiao: what netbook do you have?16:23
xxiaowubi was usable in the past16:23
xxiaoActionParsnip: eeepc16:23
xxiaospent 3 hours on this already16:23
xanguaxxiao: or you could download ubuntu iso wich already has wubi, or you could better make a real install16:23
xxiaoxz, iso, ubuntu, lubuntu, now it's downloading amd64 iso16:23
ActionParsnipxxiao: if you make a USB stick from the ISO then access it in Windows, you can run wubi from there and it will use the local files16:24
ActionParsnipxxiao: which EEE PC?16:24
xxiaoActionParsnip: ok let me make usb16:24
mhsCan anybody tell me, where I can download sakis3g from?16:24
xxiaoeeepc 1001p16:25
jaequeryI've got this server, one moment, i can't ping outside, even ping 8.8.8.8 would give me request time out.    but in other times (like right now) it works fine.   what could be the problem/blame here?16:25
ActionParsnipmhs: is this to do with 3G?16:25
ActionParsnipjaequery: how do you connect? wired or wireless?16:25
jaequerywired 1gbps16:26
ActionParsnipmhs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205703316:26
mhsYes 3g16:26
ActionParsnipjaequery: have you tried a new cable?16:26
john_573hello?16:28
iguehhi16:28
dom_hy john_57316:28
john_573can someone tell me how to install and run files on this thing? XD16:28
mhsWhere I can download sakis3g from?16:29
Mopartry watching a youtube video john16:29
john_573sounds like a plan16:29
mavenskjohn_573: use Ubuntu Software Center16:29
ThinkT510!software | john_57316:29
ubottujohn_573: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents16:29
john_573it kinda feels like i'm missing obvious signs when i ask people that question cause they get mad16:29
Moparmhs google search showed a few pages but I don't know if I am allowed to post em16:29
mhsI tried to download from www.sakis3g.org from, but site is not opening.16:30
kostkonjohn_573, see also this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware16:31
Moparuse the terminal mhs16:31
john_573thanks16:31
Moparmhs google search sakis3g and go to the ubuntuforums site it has directions16:32
john_573lol there is no software management other then the package downloader for ubuntu 12.10!!!!!!16:33
john_573no there is no software manager16:33
kostkonjohn_573, ??16:33
john_573where can i find the default manager16:33
Moparthere is many16:33
kostkonjohn_573, ubutnu software centre16:33
john_573the guy who installed this on my comp said it's cause 12.10 is new and mostly undeveloped16:33
kostkonjohn_573, search for it in the dash if you don't have it already in your launcher16:33
john_573what is the specific name of the manager?16:34
MoparI don't like 12.10 I went back to 12.0416:34
compdocI use 12.04. Didnt like 12.1016:34
john_573really?????16:34
kostkonjohn_573, Ubuntu Software Center16:34
john_573i have software open. i can find and download packages but how do i install them, every guide i read tells me there is software that manages and installs it16:35
john_573i can't find any on here and no one knows what the manager name is for ubuntu 12.1016:35
kostkonjohn_573, you click install  and it installs them for you16:35
rslickhy all16:35
john_573i did but then i can't find the application16:35
MoparDon't like unity so installed other DE's like Gnome and XFCE etc also installed the Cairo Dock etc have The Simpsons on my desktop hehe16:35
kostkonjohn_573, search for it in the dash16:36
john_573you mean file search?16:36
xxiaoActionParsnip: it appears I had to pass --32bit to wubi to let it pull a 32bit iso16:36
kostkonjohn_573, click on the ubuntu logo in your launcher, the first icon in your launcher, starting from the top16:36
john_573or search for files under accessories16:36
Moparopen folder and start searching16:36
john_573ok16:36
xxiaoActionParsnip: wubi could never use the locally downloaded image though16:36
rslickfor help whit pinguy os it it the right server ?16:36
Moparit's built in16:36
mhssend me the link to download sakis3g16:37
MoparpinguyOS was fantastic, loved it16:37
john_573ok when i open the applications menu on the top left corner there is no software manager16:37
rslickwas?16:37
john_573it just says universal access on the bottom16:37
john_573is it in accessories?16:37
MoparUE 3.4 was my fav except for the dark themes was annoying16:37
kostkonjohn_573, you have menu? so you are not using vanilla ubuntu16:38
kostkona menu*16:38
rslicki just passet from windos16:38
kostkonjohn_573, could you give us a screenshot?16:38
kostkon!imagebin | john_57316:38
ubottujohn_573: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.16:38
john_573ok16:39
Moparlet kostkon take charge16:39
rslickand find that pinguy os is the most friendly for win16:39
Moparpinguyos is ubuntu based16:39
Moparjust as easy as everyother ubuntu based distro16:39
rslickthank mate16:40
rslicks16:40
ActionParsniprslick: its support network isnt as large as Ubuntu's16:40
john_573crap now how do i take screen shots16:40
ActionParsnipjohn_573: press print screen16:40
Moparprnt screen key I believe16:40
MoparI use app called screenshot though16:41
john_573on my keyboard?16:41
ActionParsnipjohn_573: or install imageshack and run:  sleep 4; import~/Screenshot.png16:41
vrajeshActionParsnip: hey can u suggest me any other solution ? ubuntu 12.04 works fine on my laptop but i cant install ubuntu 12.1016:41
Moparyes near the F12 key?16:41
ActionParsnipvrajesh: install Precise and then immediately upgrade16:41
ActionParsnipvrajesh: Precise is supported long after even Raring is EOL, is there a particular requirement for Quantal?16:42
vrajeshActionParsnip:  k :D16:42
MoparSomeone mention to me that 12.10 will send off info about you to amazon - is that true ?16:43
IdleOne!adlens | Mopar16:43
ubottuMopar: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ16:43
Moparthankyou16:43
ActionParsnipMopar: yes and no, it sends your searches for apps, there is nothing identifying about you in it16:43
compdocMopar, I think it does unless you turn it off. Nothing bad though16:43
Moparfair enough16:43
vrajeshActionParsnip:  and one thing i like to mention is i have tried same on other dell studio 15 it didnt work ...16:43
ActionParsnipMopar: that's only if you use Unity too, Xubuntu 12.10 doesn't have that in it16:44
Moparawesome16:44
vrajeshActionParsnip: thanx for ur help16:44
lucasrangitLive USB question. What is the purpose of having both a grub and isolinux directory? When I boot, it appears that only the isolinux/txt.cfg apply. Is the grub directory only for EFI boot support? Is there chainloading between isolinux and grub? Thanks.16:44
MoparI kinda went over board with the optional DE installs... my login screen grew to over 10 De's lol16:45
raven_how to mount a android MTP device?16:45
ussenterprise:-D16:47
ActionParsnipraven_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-installer-for-nexus-7-tablet-made-available-for-devs16:47
wolterwhen I open a text file I am no longer asked if I want to display it or run it, how can I restore that behavior?16:47
wolterbehaviour*16:47
raven_ActionParsnip, i need to mount a phone that has no mass storage option but only mtp anyhow to exchange files16:48
ActionParsnipraven_: thats all I can name. I use andftp to move files over wifi to my SFTP server16:49
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john_573omg is it possible that my friend installed ubuntu on my laptop without software center?16:49
john_573just asking can someone install the operating system without the software manager?16:49
john_573cause if i had the software manager i could install files16:49
ActionParsnipjohn_573: sure, you can use apt-get16:50
john_573what's that?16:50
ActionParsnipjohn_573: its a package manager app, installs packages and deps if they are available16:50
mavenskjohn_573: or dpkg -i something.deb16:50
MoparJohn_573 can you see anything called a terminal ?16:51
xanguaraven_: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html haven't tested myself16:51
john_573yea i have it open16:51
john_573it's just like cmd on windows16:51
john_573i just don't know the commands16:52
raven_xangua, ok tnx16:52
Moparthen your in the right window, follow these guys commands by copy and paste16:52
john_573ok thank you so much16:52
erupterhi guys. anyone knows if it is at all possible to proxy a webcam so that more than one user can access it at the same time?16:53
mavenskjohn_573: try in that window "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/software-center"16:54
vrajeshActionParsnip:  hey i have tried compatibility mode also but it stuck at "starting network manager" can u help me?16:54
escott!apt-get | john_57316:55
ubottujohn_573: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)16:55
john_573it says no such file or directory16:55
xevworkDoes anyone know what's preventing partprobe from working on 10.04? If you create a sparse file, attach it to a loop device, and partition it, /dev doesn't get updated with devices for the new partitions. When this happens on 12.04, partprobe adds the partition device files. On 10.04, partprobe doesn't do anything.16:55
Moparmavensk: thanks for teaching me that16:56
escottjohn_573, you shouldn't need the /usr/bin stuff. "software-center" should be enough16:56
mavenskjohn_573: type "sudo apt-get install software-center" - its package Ubuntu Software Center16:56
john_573oh wow, oh freaking wow, i have the guide to install packages but i have to do it individually16:56
john_573i have it now but now it's telling me i have to manually type the commands to install each package16:57
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john_573this is bs on an epic scale i've downloaded so many packages and i don't know where they are or what order they go in16:57
escottjohn_172, who cares where the go or what order16:58
escottjohn_573, thats apts job to worry about. you can just forget about it16:58
john_573ok16:58
Moparit's fun to watch16:58
john_573so i just install apts and it will handle the rest16:58
gmulakFolks, where can I download the distro lubuntu.  Supposed to be a liteweight distro for netbooks?16:58
escottjohn_573, you need program X its provided by package Y so just apt-get install Y16:59
xevworkgmulak: Google search for lubuntu16:59
xevworkgmulak: That's not an appropriate question for an IRC channel - a simple web search produced the answer as the first result.16:59
john_573what is package y16:59
BlauskaerMHello, to make my question short: I installed ubuntu server 12.10 on one of my computers and cant for some reason ping any DNS domain. Anyone else who has the same problem?16:59
escottjohn_573, the way windows/mac start to do things looks crazy after a few months with linux17:00
gmulakxevwork:  OK, thanks.  Sorry to bother.17:00
escottjohn_573, thats the only thing you have to figure out. for software-center the package is "software-center"17:00
escottjohn_573, for other things you can use tools like "apt-file" or search on packages.ubuntu.com17:00
xevworkgmulak: If you're getting into Linux, you're best off trying to do things first and reading as much as you can about it. You learn much better that way vs. asking people for the answer. When you get stuck after doing that, then you come to the IRC channel.17:01
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ASwhich version is better 12.04 or 12.1017:01
escott!best | AS17:02
ubottuAS: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:02
escott!lts | AS17:02
ubottuAS: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)17:02
ActionParsnipAS: for the lay user, I suggest LTS17:03
mavenskAS: better version - its that version which use your friend17:03
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Back_turk varmı17:05
Moparwhat is the better media player to use on 12.04? installed xine and really happy with it17:05
DJones!tr | Back_17:06
ubottuBack_: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.17:06
ActionParsnipMopar: if you like it, use it. There is no better or best17:07
xevworkDoes anyone know what's preventing partprobe from working on 10.04? If you create a sparse file, attach it to a loop device, and partition it, /dev doesn't get updated with devices for the new partitions. When this happens on 12.04, partprobe adds the partition device files. On 10.04, partprobe doesn't do anything. (hdparm -z doesn't work on loop devices, and kpartx puts the device files in /dev/mapper which doesn't work for my needs)17:08
xevworkDid that get cut off?17:08
ActionParsnipxevwork: seems to have all transmitted17:08
MoparActionParsnip thanks17:08
xevworkActionParsnip: Thanks.17:08
AdeebDoes anyone any great software for ubuntu that analyses sequences of numbers?17:09
ActionParsnipAdeeb: bash :)17:09
slacker_nlpff, question for the rsync guru's17:09
escottxevwork, if its just a blank device it wouldn't have any kind of table on it. would you need to create the table first17:09
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slacker_nlcan one use --read-batch-file with rsync over ssh?17:09
xevworkescott: I did - that's in my description.17:10
AdeebActionParsnip :  :-( but i dont want to write any code17:10
ActionParsnipxevwork: is this on server or desktop?17:10
slacker_nlbecause I'm getting the following error message:17:10
slacker_nlremote destination is not allowed with --read-batch17:10
slacker_nlrsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1218) [Receiver=3.0.9]17:10
ActionParsnipAdeeb: analyse in what sense?17:10
xevworkActionParsnip: The same behavior on both.17:10
ActionParsnipxevwork: does the OS you are working on have a desktop UI?17:10
xevworkActionParsnip: I've tested this in VMs of both Ubuntu desktop and server, both 10.04 and 12.04.17:11
Guest76874is there any body here speaking persian?17:11
bazhang!ir | Guest7687417:11
ubottuGuest76874: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.17:11
AdeebI want to feed the data and it should basically give me stuff like the percentage of appearance of a specific number --- plots of the relationship between the numbers. that kind of stuff17:12
ActionParsnipAdeeb: could use libreoffice-calc17:12
xevworkAdeeb: Like ActionParsnip said, you could just do that in a spreadsheet. If your dataset is huge, try Weka (apt-get install weka). I had to borrow a friend's college textbook on statistical analysis in order to figure out how to work Weka, though.17:14
escottAdeeb, R17:15
xevworkAdeeb: Weka was able to analyze my data and create decision trees that took me almost two weeks to build manually in about a tenth of a second.17:15
apgWhy fedora can manage to include Mate on their official repository while Ubuntu can't?17:16
bazhangapg ask #fedora17:16
Adeebmy data set is preety huge, it dates form 2000--2013.  Lemme try Weka17:16
Adeebfrom17:16
usr13apg: I dont'17:17
xinglenickhello, i use linux redhat, and i tried several times wrong passwd via ssh, then my account was locked,  and i have tried cmd "faillog -r -u $myusername"  and "passwd -u $myusername" to unlock it, both failed after i login again, it shows me my account is locked17:17
usr13apg: I dont't think it's so much that Ubuntu can't, it's that they just don't choose to.17:17
xevworkAdeeb: The book I read to figure out Weka was "Data Mining: Practical Machine Learning Tools and Techniques, Third Edition" by Ian H. Witten, Eibe Frank, and Mark A. Hall.17:17
bazhangxinglenick, how does this relate to ubuntu support17:17
escott!ot | xinglenick17:17
ubottuxinglenick: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:17
usr13apg: But why not just use xfce or lxde?17:18
Adeebxevwork, Thanks17:19
usr13apg: Or one of the others....17:19
apgusr13: I have installed xfce already. But, Mate in Ubuntu could be a good idea, I guess17:20
ajacomhi .. how do i quickly check  /var/log/syslog ?17:20
usr13apg: You can install it if you like.17:21
usr13ajacom: less /var/log/syslog17:21
escottajacom, quickly check what?17:21
jpwajacom: tail /var/log/syslog17:21
funky1hi there17:21
usr13ajacom: cat /var/log/syslog.117:21
usr13ajacom: cat /var/log/syslog17:21
apgusr13, well, sure with the more risk of course, :D17:21
trasgressori want know little girl whore17:22
funky1can someone help me, i want to parition and format a new 3TB disk in ubuntu but ubuntu only shows it as 746GB drive and not 3TB17:22
funky1what can i do?17:22
escottfunky1, what is the output of "sudo parted -l"17:22
usr13apg: Not sure what the risk is, but....  I'm very happy with xfce and thunar - works rather well for me.17:22
usr13funky1: What only shows 746G?17:23
BlauskaerMHello, to make my question short: I installed ubuntu server 12.10 on one of my computers and cant for some reason ping any DNS domain. Anyone else who has the same problem?17:23
ActionParsnipfunky1: in the fdisk output does it show as 3Tb?17:23
funky1it shows it as 804GB drive17:23
usr13funky1: sudo fdksi -l  ?17:23
ActionParsnipBlauskaerM: do you have an IP on the interface?17:23
funky1i think fdisk does not work with such big drives17:23
escottActionParsnip, funky1 should be using fdisk on a 3TB disk17:23
usr13funky1: sudo fdisk -l  ?17:23
usr13(typo)17:24
funky1ok hang on17:24
BlauskaerMActionParsnip: Yes, I can ping my routers IP and other computers IPs in my home but not there dns names17:24
llutzuse parted, not fdisk on those drives17:24
funky1same outbput 80017:24
usr13funky1: sudo fdisk -l  |pastebinit #And send resulting URL, we can have a look.17:24
funky1both fdisk, gdisk, gparted all show wrong info17:24
ActionParsnipfunky1: http://amaras-tech.co.uk/article/158/Ubuntu,_formatting_a_3TB_drive17:24
usr13funky1: Show us17:25
mavenskBlauskaerM: that ip your comp have from dhcp or static?17:25
vbgunzI have 2 connected displays. 1 is a DVI-D and the other is HDMI. How do I start a new xserver on a specific display from command only?17:26
funky1there you go http://pastebin.ca/230973917:26
usr13BlauskaerM: What nameserver are you using?  cat /etc/resolv.conf17:26
BlauskaerMmavensk: I got the IP from the router using DHCP and later edited /etc/networks/interface to the IP I retrived from the router17:27
BlauskaerMusr13: Havent touched that one17:27
vbgunzThis used to work 'xinit myapp -- :1' when the DVI-D was a VGA cable. Now that I changed the cable to a DVI-D, that command no longer does what it used to17:27
funky1usr13 actionparsnip escott http://pastebin.ca/230973917:27
usr13BlauskaerM: nameserver ip.or.your.router17:27
escottfunky1, that does not appear to be a 3TB disk17:28
funky1escott, it is17:28
funky1i just bought them in the store today 3 of them17:28
mavenskBlauskaerM: paste in /etc/networks/interfaces line "dns-nameservers ip" where - ip - ip of your dns server17:28
funky1and i'm not new to this, so this is really weird behvaiour to me, never happened17:29
mavenskBlauskaerM: and run "resolvconf -u"17:29
funky1so anyone can help?17:29
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BlauskaerMGive me two minutes, much to test now :P17:29
usr13funky1: did you see the url ActionParsnip sent you?17:30
escottfunky1, check the smart data?17:30
funky1ah no usr13 thanks actionparsnip17:30
funky1escott not yet, let me first on link17:30
escottfunky1, sudo smartctl -i /dev/sdb17:31
hellhammerim running ubuntu 10.04 software center and synapatic are not letting me install anything because of a segmentation fault error how do i fix this?17:31
BlauskaerMmavensk: Adding dns-nameservers did the trick :)17:31
BlauskaerMalso thank you usr13 for your time17:32
mavenskBlauskaerM: if you got many dns server - that line "dns-nameservers ip1,ip2,ip3"17:33
llutzmavensk: spaces, not commas to separate dns-ips17:33
* BlauskaerM taking notes17:34
mapbakeranyone in here an apache guru?17:34
HankHendrixIceCast help IN NEED!17:34
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jpwmapbaker: just ask the question17:35
funky1escott http://pastebin.ca/230974017:35
funky1there it shows up correct17:35
hellhammerim running ubuntu 10.04 software center and synapatic are not letting me install anything because of a segmentation fault error how do i fix this?17:36
RayeshmanHi! my usb flash drive doesn't work!17:37
RayeshmanWho can help me?17:37
paulohorahi there17:38
escottfunky1, and what does parted say17:38
giulianociao a tutti17:38
giuliano!list17:38
ubottugiuliano: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:38
funky1escott 802GB actionparsnip does not work when indicating size i get an error: Error: The location 3.00TB is outside of the device /dev/sdb17:40
paulohorahi, I need some help17:40
paulohoraI'm having a hard time booting ubuntu17:40
paulohorait lags a lot17:40
escottpaulohora, you will have to explain what that means17:41
paulohoraok17:41
paulohorawell, after grub screen I got only a purple screen for some time and no ubuntu logo17:41
escott!nomodeset | paulohora17:42
ubottupaulohora: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:42
paulohoraWell thats the output of dmesg17:42
paulohorahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1597966/17:42
paulohorabut I'm using it for almost one year now17:43
paulohoraI thought it could be something with plymouth17:43
jpwthat's just the kernnel and udev probing the system17:43
funky1escott actionparsnip usr13: mine is also usb, so probably same problem as here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=28153617:44
jpwor am I looking at a specific line?17:44
funky1thanks i'll figure it out now17:44
paulohoraDid you see that it has a lag adding swap at lint 755?17:44
paulohora*line17:44
slacker_nlwho knows rsync from the back of his/her hand?17:44
jpwlook at line# 74317:45
escottslacker_nl, andrew tridgell probably does17:45
slacker_nlescott: :)17:46
slacker_nlI tip my hat to you Sir17:46
paulohoraI'll try nomodeset17:47
paulohoraty everyone17:47
escottslacker_nl, unless you meant to ask if someone in channel could answer your question... in which case you should probably just ask your question17:48
TheGreyo/ my audio is only making me hear the background sounds of videos/music. the vocals are either absent or too low. If I restart things seem to work for a while. What can I do to solve this problem?17:48
slacker_nlescott: I did already - with little response17:49
mapbakerAll: when mapping a shared folder to an apache site, what can cause a 403 / no permissions error?17:49
slacker_nlhowever, since you are asking ;) - escott, do you know if --read-batch=file syntax is allowed with rsync over ssh? because I'm getting errors17:49
guideXhello.. I have a 11.04, and it's un-updatable at this point. I had attempted an update at some point, and now my php zend framework projects have this error (i'm also asking in #zftalk) ...17:50
slacker_nlescott: the error is: remote destination is not allowed with --read-batch17:50
guideX'uncaught fatal exception: 'zend_pluginloader_exception' with message 'plugin by name 'signup' was not found in the registry 'zendx_jquery_view_helper_: zendx/jquery/helper/zend_view_helper_: ...17:50
guideXshould I go with new install, or what should I do next..17:51
slacker_nl11.04 is updateable or is it EOL?17:51
guideXhmm it tries to update but fails17:51
slacker_nlahh17:51
guideXit says it's also unsupported in the update dialiog17:51
slacker_nlaha17:52
escottslacker_nl, http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2006-May/015588.html17:52
guideXI gave it a try anyways, but now my zend project won't load...17:52
slacker_nlwell, I haven't done it before, however, try EOLUpgrades on the wiki17:52
guideXhmm ok17:52
slacker_nlI suppose it will work (i need to update that EOLUpgrades page in the near future)17:52
slacker_nl!eolupgrade17:52
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:52
slacker_nlthere is the link17:53
slacker_nlguideX: ^^17:53
slacker_nlescott: click17:53
guideXok cool thx..17:53
guideXbtw ^^ only makes sence for top to bottom scrolling irc clients :D17:53
guideXfor me it looks like your pointing to future messages :P17:53
guideXthanks again..17:54
slacker_nlguideX: use a proper irc client in that case :P17:54
slacker_nlescott: hmmm, let me give that a try17:54
guideXthere's nothing improper about the bottom to top scrollers, just different17:55
JohnNightleyhi everyone17:55
guideXit's quite nice once you get used to it17:55
JohnNightleyis there anyone use the  indicator of thunderbird?17:56
slacker_nlbut there isn't a reversed ^ character on my keyboard17:56
slacker_nlv perhaps17:56
guideXwhich is better 12.10 or 12.0417:57
guideXor is it a subjective thing17:57
guideXI will have a plan b if this eol stuff doesn't work17:57
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slacker_nl12.04 is LTS, 12.20 isn't17:58
slacker_nl12.1017:58
slacker_nlit'll work17:58
slacker_nl*knocks on wood*17:58
guideXhmm ok17:59
slacker_nlyou basicly need to use a different repo17:59
slacker_nlupdate, then it should work17:59
slacker_nlor do it the debian way17:59
ArchRatioWhen I start up Ubuntu, it freezes on the login screen17:59
ArchRatioOr a short time after I open a terminal17:59
guideXhmm that stuff isn't easy for me, i'm not too good with linux17:59
ArchRatioI have pretty much given up17:59
ArchRatioCan anyone tell me how to extract my files?18:00
guideXit takes me many hours to do the things "linux guys" find simpler18:00
guideXi'm usually in windows heh18:00
slacker_nlguideX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades#The_Debian_way_of_upgrading18:00
ArchRatioThere's nothing I really can't miss on there, but I would like to get some things off there.18:00
slacker_nlescott: it doesn't seem to work18:02
guideXhmm that's not working18:02
guideXI get a lot of error text18:03
escottslacker_nl, its a strange option. not sure what the usecase is, but if the answer is no i guess its no18:03
slacker_nlescott: I think I have it!18:04
slacker_nlguideX: hmm :(18:04
slacker_nlguideX: sucks18:04
vincenrtwhat'the fuck18:05
h00k!language | vincenrt18:05
ubottuvincenrt: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:05
vincenrtsorry18:05
guideXprobably just easier to install a new one..18:05
guideXI don't know why these don't auto update, oh well18:06
slacker_nlescott: thanks for the help18:07
slacker_nlthe trick is to NOT specify the destination dir18:08
slacker_nljust the host18:08
TheGreyo/18:08
cloudgeeksuggest any website for final year students for summer intern in linux,hadoop,openstack,python,ubuntu or cloud! plz suggest if any relevant website is there18:08
slacker_nlcloudgeek: google18:08
TheGreyI have this bizzare audio problem. My sound is like only the background sounds, no vocal sounds in like any videos or music files18:08
TheGreyHow to solve?18:08
liquidmetalHas anyone's chrome on ubuntu been getting stuck lately?18:09
slacker_nlTheGrey: have a look at alsamixer (iirc) you can tweak the volume there18:09
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liquidmetalChrome + shockwave = some weird freeze - you can scroll through tabs but no tab actually opens.18:10
MoparChromium is great - no issues18:10
genii-aroundTheGrey: You may also need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for whatever codecs those videos or music files use18:10
slacker_nlliquidmetal: aliased to apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk "{print \$2}" | egrep "^google-chrome|^chromium-browser$")18:10
slacker_nlperform that command (from the apt-cache onwards)18:10
liquidmetalslacker_nl: sorry?18:11
Moparrestricted is my guess so do as genii-around suggested18:11
liquidmetalgoogle-chrome-stable:18:11
liquidmetal  Installed: 24.0.1312.56-r17759418:11
liquidmetal  Candidate: 24.0.1312.57-r17892318:11
liquidmetal  Version table:18:11
liquidmetal     24.0.1312.57-r178923 018:11
FloodBot1liquidmetal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:11
liquidmetal        500 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages18:11
slacker_nlliquidmetal: run this: apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk "{print \$2}" | egrep "^google-chrome|^chromium-browser$")18:11
slacker_nlliquidmetal: you need to upgrade18:11
slacker_nlapt-get install google-chrome-stable18:12
slacker_nlor install the unstable branch18:12
slacker_nlapt-get install google-chrome-unstable18:12
slacker_nlsee if that resolves the issue18:12
liquidmetalDownloading that right now. But it seems like a shockwave/flash issue18:13
slacker_nlcheck if you need to upgrade that as well :)18:13
FxATomiCHello, I am having issues with VNC, I can connect to it but issue one is that its not password protected and also that when i close the session i cannot reconnect unless i reopen the session.18:13
MrButtersHello everybody18:13
FxATomiCHi18:14
compdocFxATomiC, which vnc server?18:14
FxATomiCx11vnc18:14
liquidmetalMopar: Is chromium better than chrome?18:15
MrButtersI have a trouble with my new Lenovo V580c laptop. It goes with Win8, and I want to install Linux. I can't boot live cd or bootable usb. I've tried: Ubuntu 10.10, Linux Mint 13, Linux Mint 14, Debian 6.18:15
MrButtersOnly Linux Mint 14 was succesfully booted. And in that session I could make a backup of my hard drive (with default win8 installed), but I don't want Linux Mint 14 to install ;(18:16
FxATomiCMrButters, did you boot off of the Live CD18:16
MrButtersI'm downloading 12.10 Ubuntu now, but I think it won't help.18:16
FxATomiCAre you using Live CD or USB18:16
MrButtersBoth things18:16
MrButtersFor example Debian 6 I tried both usb and live cd. But Ubuntu 10.10 only by usb.18:17
FxATomiCI personally use USB, i use unetboot to make the USB bootable18:17
MrButtersYeap, I used  that util tool18:17
FxATomiCwhich OS's work and which dont18:17
MrButtersIn boot menu - I choose CD or USB and boot menu just refreshes. It even doesn't try to boot. Just refresh the screen and show boot menu again18:17
MrButtersOnly Linux Mint 14 could be booted18:17
MrButtersLinux Mint 13 - not (live cd and usbs were good, I've tried them all on other pcs)18:18
MrButtersand all other linuxes from list - no. Also I've tried elementary os Luna beta (ubuntu fork)18:18
FxATomiCWhat is this for? like what are you trying to install linux for?18:19
slacker_nlliquidmetal: chromium is the "open source" version of chrome18:19
slacker_nlchome is the google branded flavor18:19
liquidmetalslacker_nl: do you use chromium? Firefox?18:20
FxATomiCIs anyone able to help me with my VNC problem?18:20
fidelhi, seems like clive is broken - at least for me on my 12.04 install. any other tools to download music and/or videos from youtube. cli solutions prefered18:20
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ioriafidel: youtube-dl18:21
dreherhi18:21
vbgunzI have manned and googled xinit like it's no joke. I'm missing something. How do I tell xinit what xorg.conf.file to use? It can't use the default xorg.conf18:21
MrButtersI Thaugh is AHCI problem (my friend told me that he couldn't boot too, and when he changed AHCI to compability mode, it was ok).. but for me it didn't help18:21
drehercan someone help me how to remove this bug:   Error: update-openoffice-dicts not present or executable.18:21
fidelioria: looks promising - thanks18:21
z8zGuys to update from 12.04LTS to 12.04.1LTS offline i just need to run the alternate cd???18:22
ioriafidel: or cclive18:22
fidelioria: clive is the same then cclive or am i wrong?18:22
fidelioria: clive worked for me in the past - but throws errors now for me here18:22
ioriafidel: mumble... mumble .... i don't know18:22
fidelioria: i get error: Unknown error (http/403) (in cleanup) cannot access `DESTROY' field in class clive::Video at /usr/share/perl5/clive/App.pm line 10618:23
ioriafidel: are you updated ?18:23
fidelioria: yep latest updates on 12.04.0118:24
fidelioria: got that issue since month with clive18:24
z8zi need to update a pc wich cannot access internet and before going there and find out i needed to know....18:24
ioriafidel: try cclive, then18:24
fidelioria: similar error ... but ok - youtube-dl worked18:25
ioriafidel: same error message ?18:25
fidelioria:  Checking ... ..... ...... .....libquvi: error: server response code 403 (conncode=0)18:26
z8zsomeone can help me?18:26
ioriafidel: from a youtube link ?18:27
fidelyep18:27
dreherError: update-openoffice-dicts not present or executable.  << what the hell is this?18:27
ioriafidel: it may depends on the youtube policy, then18:27
fidelioria: no problem - switching to youtube-dl now - which perfectly worked with the same link18:28
ioriafidel: ok ^+^18:29
fidelioria: thanks once again for the tip18:29
LIVE-dvd-failsMay i ask a question18:29
fidel!ask | LIVE-dvd-fails18:29
ubottuLIVE-dvd-fails: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:29
ioriafidel: ^ù^18:29
z8z!patience18:29
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:29
LIVE-dvd-failsI have a 12.10 64 bit ubuntu live dvd and it boots to purple menu.and from there nothing but a black screen with flashing curser.I have downloaded 3 copies and burned 3 dvd no luck.I do hear the start up sound for ubuntu.18:30
genii-arounddreher: Looks like bug 103596318:30
ubottubug 980130 in dict-st (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1035963 package myspell-st 20070206-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98013018:30
LIVE-dvd-failsI am trying to install it beside windows 7 i have freed up 24.00 gigs and left it as unallocated space.18:30
drehergenii-around thanks and now how to get rid of it18:30
slacker_nlmeh18:31
mavenskz8z: download alternate iso and upgrade system https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades (topic: Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD)18:32
z8zthanks18:33
drehercan someone help me how to get rid of bug 103596318:33
ubottubug 980130 in dict-st (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1035963 package myspell-st 20070206-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98013018:33
genii-arounddreher: Is this an upgrade from an Ubuntu from 11.10 or previous?18:34
z8zmavensk: i knew it was working for release upgrade but was doubting if also working for point release update18:34
dreheri just downloaded the latest xubuntu i think, than tried to install OpenOffice.org18:35
digitalsanctumhi, can someone point to some good examples of preseed files for Ubuntu 12.04.1?18:35
drehersystem updater says my software is up to date18:35
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LIVE-dvd-failsDoes anyone have a idea why 12.10 dvd boots to a black screen but gives the start sound?18:36
[[CaBeTuX]]hi! one question18:36
ChiefW0TJGreetings all!18:37
mavenskz8z: you always can write path to loop mount iso image in your source list and type "apt-get update; apt-get updgrade"18:37
jrib!nomodeset | LIVE-dvd-fails18:37
ubottuLIVE-dvd-fails: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:37
mavensk*upgrade18:37
[[CaBeTuX]]i've LDAP and configured ubuntu linux client (servers) to login via PAM LDAP.18:37
[[CaBeTuX]]so... the question is: if LDAP user not exist in server ubuntu, this is created or cant login?18:38
mavensk[[CaBeTuX]]: for this user will create account18:38
guideXhow do you get to the terminal in 12.1018:38
LIVE-dvd-failsI also tried ubuntu windows installer.I was told to chose the 18 gig and when it ran it said not enough space.BUT i have 24 gigs.What is the difference in the sizes when you use the installer.What does the the 18 gig mean?18:39
guideXi'm trying to follow instructions to change to gnome but there's no terminal anywhere I can find18:39
ChiefW0TJguideX, press the windows key (super) and type "terminal" in your dash.  Then click on the terminal icon.18:39
[[CaBeTuX]]mavensk: not is neccesary execute: "getent passwd" ?18:40
guideXhmm..18:40
genii-arounddreher: As a workaround, you can: sudo touch /usr/sbin/update-openoffice-dicts && sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/update-openoffice-dicts18:40
guideXI think i'm doing it wrong..18:40
ChiefW0TJor click Ctrl+Alt+t18:40
guideXnothing happens on the screen with the text I typed18:40
jribguideX: what intructions?  You can press the super (windows) key and type "terminal" to get a terminal18:40
Osakasa^guideX, by default ctrl+alt+t18:40
guideXug.. a textbox pops up but fades away18:40
guideXI don'tt know wtf I'm doing lol18:41
jribguideX: you're just tapping the super key one time right?18:41
drehergenii-around thanks a lot it seems worked18:41
guideXis there like a terminal window I can use somewhere instead or18:41
guideXor an icon I can click to revert to gnome18:41
guideXI don't have a super key18:42
Osakasa^guideX, you can use terminal commands if you press alt+f218:42
ChiefW0TJguideX, it's the "Windows" key18:42
guideXhmm it keeps disapearing before i type18:42
Osakasa^guideX, didn't ctrl+alt+t work?18:43
guideXsame thing18:43
guideXit vanishes before I can type18:43
guideXoh wait there it is18:43
guideXor was18:43
guideXwtf18:43
guideXthis unity stuff sucks the big one18:43
guideXmaybe there's an ubuntu preloaded with gnome?18:44
jribguideX: what do you need to do in the terminal anyway?  If you're just installing a package, you could just use software-center18:44
guideXI do not know where it isx18:45
ChiefW0TJguideX, there is a gnome-remix of 12.10.  A google search should bring you right to it.18:45
jribguideX: should be on the sidebar18:45
LIVE-dvd-failsI disabled nomodeset and now it is on desktop.is that a issue?18:45
fidelioria: do you know by chance if its possible with youtube-dl to just rip of the audio - or do i need to rework the .flv i get from it with ffmpeg / lame afterwards?18:46
jribLIVE-dvd-fails: is what an issue?  Isn't it normal for you to be on the desktop?18:46
guideXlol that bar on the side fades away too slow18:46
guideXso before I see the tooltip it's gone.. jeezx18:46
guideXI will go for the gnome remix i guess18:46
SpamapSI have an HP EliteBook 8560w here that refuses to boot the 64-bit 12.04 installer18:46
guideXas this doesn't seem usable18:46
SpamapSanybody have any ideas? it just goes to a blinking cursor after 'Install Ubuntu' is selected18:47
mavensk[[CaBeTuX]]: if u server on ldap - ldap user connect to server with ldap pass18:47
guideXmaybe it's just because it's in a vm, but jeez it's totally unstable18:48
LIVE-dvd-fails@SpamapS boot cd.soon as you see purple hold down esc then option f6 the check nomodest and click enter.and your good.just fixed mine 2 min ago.18:48
ChiefW0TJguideX, are you running 12.04 or 12.10 in the VM?18:48
guideX12.1018:48
SonikkuAmericar18:48
christarasHello. For a reason my ubuntu load Vesa module on boot with fglrx. Can i fix that because i get really poor performance. I have Ubuntu 12.10 Catalyst 13.1 (tried with many versions)18:49
guideXthe window effects and transitions make it fade in and out too slow to be usable18:49
ChiefW0TJDoes your VM software support 3D graphics?  You can also install gnome-panel which will give you the old look and functionality back.  That's what I use for running Ubuntu in VMs.18:49
SpamapSLIVE-dvd-fails: cool let me give that a try18:49
guideXatm, I can barely do anything, i can't even reach a terminal window18:50
LIVE-dvd-fails@SpamapS http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313218:50
guideXi'm not sure about the 3d graphics part18:50
SonikkuAmericaIt all ready depends on what the GPU can handle, but VBox is good for handling emulated gfx18:50
ChiefW0TJguideX, personally for running in a VM I prefer 12.04. Log into 2D and you should be good to go.18:50
guideXi'm using vbox on window18:50
guideXs18:50
guideXhmm ok18:50
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SonikkuAmerica(the host GPU)18:51
SpamapSLIVE-dvd-fails: cool beans, thanks for the tip.. its working18:51
guideXdo you know where the 2d version is or how to login to it, i'm at the login screen18:52
SpamapSI wonder if this is fixed in the upcoming 12.04.218:52
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SonikkuAmericaguideX: log in, open a terminal and [ sudo apt-get install unity-2d ]18:52
SonikkuAmericaguideX: If you're having trouble with logging in due to your gfx, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to open a dedicated terminal18:53
EvanCarrollSonikkuAmerica: that's a transitional package.18:53
ChiefW0TJguideX, click on the small circle with the Ubuntu logo next to your screen name...a menu should come up with Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D18:53
EvanCarrollSonikkuAmerica: all it does it depend on 'unity'18:53
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BaldFatguideX: you just chose your avilable desktop enviroment or window manager at login on the button that says unity.18:53
christarasHello. For a reason my ubuntu load Vesa module on boot with fglrx. Can i fix that because i get really poor performance. I have Ubuntu 12.10 Catalyst 13.1 (tried with many versions)18:54
SonikkuAmericaEvanCarroll: Good point. I actually see where it's going.18:54
SonikkuAmericachristaras: What is Catalyst 13.1?18:54
christarasthe amd drivers18:55
SonikkuAmericaOK.18:55
EvanCarrolldpkg should support a flag for transitional packages with an index of them.18:55
[[CaBeTuX]]mavensk: Now exist only two users in LDAP. "Javier" and "Fabian"... Javier exist in Linux Server and it's possible login using pass local and pass LDAP. Fabian exist only en LDAP and cant login: the error in auth.log is "could not identify user from getpwnam(fabian)"18:55
EvanCarrollit's rather stupid for the transitional packages to show up in the index.18:55
guideXwholly hanna it takes whole minutes to menu's to appear.. I can see this is your guys's vista18:56
guideXmaybe it works  better with a better gpu, but it should work off the bat with a cheap video card18:57
PiciguideX: its more likely that its just not running well through a virtual machine with a poor gpu18:57
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mavensk[[CaBeTuX]]: depends on the setting, hard to say exactly what, sorry18:57
SonikkuAmericachristaras: Let me think this through. Did you check the AMD Web site to see if your card is supported?18:58
[[CaBeTuX]]ok mavensk! thanks18:58
christarasyes it is 6450 by Asus18:58
christarasbut i have a way too strange issue i have contacted amd but they havent answered me yes (after a month!) they are for the (you know what).... No customer support at all. anyway....18:59
christarashttp://pastebin.com/Btbqbted19:01
SonikkuAmericachristaras, I wouldn't have expected them to support it with Ubuntu. Do me a favor: Power up the Ubuntu machine if you haven't done so already and hit Ctrl+Alt+F1.19:01
SonikkuAmerica(Ctrl+Alt+F7 will get you back to the GUI)19:01
christarasi am in ubuntu right now :O)19:01
christarasyes i know :)19:02
guideXso I finally made it to a terminal window, but when I type sudo apt-get install full-gnome3-experience, it says it's unable to find full-gnome3-experience19:02
SonikkuAmericaOr open a terminal...19:02
SonikkuAmerica...and type [ fglrxinfo ]19:02
jribguideX: there's no such package in the default repositories...19:02
guideXhmm ok..19:02
LIVE-dvd-failsCAN I SCREAM??? I booted to 12.10 live cd. installed alone side windows 7. removed dvd like it said.IF BOOTS TO WINDOWS...19:02
guideXbut...19:03
jrib!grub | LIVE-dvd-fails19:03
ubottuLIVE-dvd-fails: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:03
guideXthen how do I install gnome19:03
jribLIVE-dvd-fails: follow the steps there for restoring grub19:03
jrib!gnome19:03
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10 To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.19:03
jribwell that's quite unhelpful.19:03
christarashttp://pastebin.com/77FFLvNQ     the output is normal19:03
liquidmetalI just updated ubuntu and unity is completely broken. Is there a unity log where I can see what failed?19:03
guideXit says ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version19:04
jribguideX: gnome-session might be the right package....19:04
guideXbut didn't install19:04
jribguideX: yes, that factoid is not helpful19:04
guideXuhm..19:04
guideX<- windows user lol19:05
* tux- gives guideX a gun19:05
* tux- encourages guideX to aim it at himself19:05
|ka1ser|lol19:05
jribguideX: there's also a gnome-shell package, that's probably what you actually want19:05
SonikkuAmerica!gnome3 | Maybe this will help19:05
ubottuMaybe this will help: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.19:05
guideXoh ok19:05
tux-guideX, now pull the trigger!!!19:05
hackooHi I am confused between 12.04 LTS and 12.10. I always want to use latest thing but I also want long term support. So please suggest which one should I choose.19:05
SonikkuAmericahackoo: Looks like you're in a dither.19:05
guideXhmm do you know how to install it..19:06
jribguideX: same way you tried to install "full-gnome-3-experience"19:06
guideXlol tux i'm not far off..19:07
christarasNo idea about my problem right :)?19:07
hackooSonikkuAmerica: actually not dither. I just dont know if using 12.04 have any advantage than 12.10. May be 12.04 can be upgraded to 12.10 if I want.19:07
guideXok it's installing jrib19:08
SonikkuAmericahackoo: Except for LTS releases, which (since 12.04) are supported over a 5-year cycle, Ubuntu releases are supported for about 18 months from their release.19:08
SonikkuAmericaNO not 1819:08
SonikkuAmericaYES 1819:08
SonikkuAmericahackoo: It can be.19:08
guideXor at least, there's a lot of text in the terminal i going by19:08
SonikkuAmerica!lts | hackoo19:08
ubottuhackoo: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)19:08
hackooSonikkuAmerica: ok so I gonna install 12.04. Actully I am going to do OpenStack install on it.19:08
hackoook19:09
hackooI have Precise Pangolin19:09
hackooand 12.10 server too19:09
SonikkuAmerica12.10 server you'll have to update every ~6 months or so just to keep it current19:10
guideXcool ok, so after it's done reboot?19:11
hackooanother query so when we get updates on LTS release do they actully have same version of apps like other newer Ubuntu (12.10) versions have.19:11
jribguideX: just log out, choose your session at the login screen, login19:11
hackooSonikkuAmerica: ok19:11
jrib!sru | hackoo19:11
ubottuhackoo: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates19:11
enapupe_hey, what is this #29 Ubuntu I see on uname -a?19:12
enapupe_Linux enapupe 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 25 07:26:14 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux19:12
hackoo!sru | ubottu19:12
ubottuhackoo: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates19:12
CatbuntuHow can I set a custom icon on a .desktop file?19:12
CatbuntuThe icon is on /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/sublime_text.png19:13
DJonesenapupe_: Its just a version number as far as I know, I have #34 on 12.1019:13
SonikkuAmericahackoo: ...not really. You still get the data from the repo of the version it's from.19:13
CatbuntuI tried setting "Icon=sublime_text" on a .desktop file, but it's not showing the icon.19:13
christarasright click-> properties-.> click on the items icon and the just select one?19:13
enapupe_DJones: I'm on 12.0419:13
vm325vcvbv19:14
guideXomg finally... I guess gnome classic (no effects) was what I was looking for...19:14
guideXMUCH better19:14
hackooSonikkuAmerica: ok thanks, Actully I was a Fedora guy earlier.. Two years back. In these two years used Windows a lot for my job.19:14
CatbuntuI tried that chris__007619:14
Catbuntuchristaras *19:14
vm325hi all19:14
CatbuntuBut it's still showing a blank icon19:15
guideXnow it actually works :)19:15
hackoovm325: hello19:15
vm325tanx hackoo19:15
christaras:O) maybe your icon is just not right ?19:15
CatbuntuOh, I had to do it with gksudo nautilus19:16
CatbuntuNow it's lovely :)19:16
Catbuntuthanks!19:16
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vm325what?19:19
Jack3k3hey guys what is that desktop manager with kde that has really great eye candy19:19
Jack3k33d stuff19:19
SonikkuAmericaPlasma?19:19
guideXbaryl?19:19
guideXberyl or whatev19:19
Jack3k3oh is that it , i thought itw as something like ruby19:19
Jack3k3oh beryl that might be it19:19
SonikkuAmericaBeryl19:19
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auronandaceJack3k3: with kde its kwm that does the compositing effects19:21
guideXso are they planning to move to unity only in the future?19:21
auronandaceJack3k3: beryl is now known as compiz, which is used in unity19:22
jrib!beryl19:22
ubottuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz19:22
Jack3k31compiz19:23
Jack3k3!compiz19:23
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz19:23
Jack3k3i have kde ubuntu so i wasn't sure if I need to install something like compiz for some cool effects that I dont really need :p19:23
SonikkuAmericaWell, yeah, KDE now has a Compiz plugin19:23
auronandaceJack3k3: the 3d effects are part of kwm (kde's window manager)19:24
vm325good19:25
guideXanyone know how to increase screen size? I seem to be stuck at 1024x768 or 800x60019:28
guideXso i'm working out of a "little window"19:28
duanedesignguideX: you may need to install a graphics diver for your card?19:29
guideXwell i'm in virtual box19:29
guideXI have the correct one in windows...19:29
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guideXi'm not really sure what the correct one is in the vm19:29
guideXhmm i look around for that though19:30
guideXomg the scrollbars in gnome are missing wtf19:30
guideXanyone know how to get them back19:30
duanedesignguideX: you might need to restart nautilus. It will restart on its own. i think the command is: sudo nautilus -q19:32
guideXhmm ok19:32
guideXi'll try it19:32
ashptoday is not my day.  Can't get 12.10 to install/boot, and with 13.04 I ran into the crippling https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmod/+bug/1073062 bug. :(19:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 1073062 in kmod (Ubuntu) "modprobe: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:32
duanedesignashp: i have occasional trouble with 12.10. Choose the recovery option in Grub. Then fsck. Then normal bot when that is done19:33
LIVE-dvd-failsI wonder if the new smart phone ubuntu will make people have to install and or enable stuff.If so i see it crashing worse then the ubuntu 8.0 at best buy back in the day.19:33
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ashpduanedesign: I couldn't get the recovery option to boot either19:34
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ashpduanedesign: this was literally a 12.10 install and reboot and it fails every time, weirdly19:34
duanedesignashp: not sure if the fsck step is necessary. I have booted to recovery then just continued to regulsr boot from recovery menuu and that works...go figure19:34
ashpI was moving from arch linux as I started having problems booting19:34
ashpso I am starting to wonder if something else is going on19:34
ajdebreshowdy all19:35
Guest38029hello all19:35
duanedesignashp: the Grub2 documentation is extensive but you may need to do something their19:35
Guest38029need help with access to second drive please?19:36
ashpfor now I'm just going to avoid the nvidia drivers that trigger the kmod bug19:36
jhutchins_wkGuest38029: What's the question?19:37
DarkenvyHello, what channel would I go to pertaining to Ubuntu on Phones? (ARM builds possibly?)19:37
Guest38029I had a spare drive from another machine that stoped working, I installed it in this machine but I have no write access to it, in mtab I show the following : /dev/sdb1 /media/46ca6eba-b15f-4f42-bc08-e259c6576ddc ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks 0 019:38
Pici!phone | Darkenvy19:38
ubottuDarkenvy: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone19:38
DarkenvyMy interest is about finding phones that is supported with the new development of ubuntu on phones19:38
Guest38029how do I change ownership on this drivew so I can make mods to files19:38
DarkenvyI have been all over that site Pici, I cannot find the information I need19:38
PiciDarkenvy:  Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone19:38
Darkenvythanks19:38
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LIVE-dvd-failsok got ubuntu on partition.finally got grub to work and ubuntu boots to a speckled screen.I am down with it.Back in the day you could install and dual boot no problem.now it is holly hell.SO my question is how to remove grub to get my windows to boot without the ubuntu option.No longer can deal with it.lol19:40
duanedesignashp: I am having decent luck w/ nvidia driver 304.43. But I guess that will probably depend on the card :)19:41
ashpduanedesign: the issue in this case is that the nvidia stuff breaks on kernels newer than 3.719:42
nazmulwantedhi all... how r u?19:42
duanedesignashp: aha, thanks for the tip. did not know that was the sticking point19:43
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genii-aroundLIVE-dvd-fails: Boot Windows CD/DVD to the Recovery Console and issue: fixmbr19:44
LIVE-dvd-failsno recovert disk19:45
guideXok so I fixed the scrollbar issue, how do I increase the screen res? I seem to be stuck at 1024x76819:45
guideXis there some drivers for my video to install or19:45
Avedowhich video card?19:45
wjtaylor_does alien really work? I want to install Oracle Java, but it's only in rpm.  I don't want to kill the OpenJDK install I have working, either.19:46
amphibianI have a spare drive from another machine that stopped working, I installed it in this machine but I have no write access to it, in /etc/mtab I show the drive in question : "/dev/sdb1 /media/46ca6eba-b15f-4f42-bc08-e259c6576ddc ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks 0 0" can one advise what the command line entries would be to change the ownership of this drive so I can modify the files please?19:46
duanedesignguideX: lspci -v | grep VGA    commmand should show card19:46
guideXit's the virtual box one19:46
guideXoh ok19:46
guideXone sec19:46
guideXvga compatible controller innotek systemberatung gmbh virtualbox graphics adapter19:47
pthwjtaylor_ Is Alien neccessary? Check out this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/webupd8_java It works for me.19:48
wjtaylor_pth: OK, I would install via the webupd8, but it seems like having 3rd party ppas that are not trusted projects pose a security concern.19:50
duanedesignguideX: yeah looks like in VM you are stuck with its driver19:50
guideXhmm ok19:51
duanedesignguideX: i have not tried this but heard others have had some success with it http://www.yoyoclouds.com/2012/09/installing-vmware-tools-in-ubuntu-1204.html19:51
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guideXoh I'm trying that now heh19:52
guideXI forgot to install guest additions19:52
guideXmaybe i'll get better video after that19:52
pthwjtaylor_: You may be right. The harder, safer way is documented here: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/19:52
duanedesignguideX: that page is for VMware19:52
jaimevg123Buen dia, ando configurando OpenVPN en un servidor, he revisado bastante los contenidos en la Web y he tenido algunos problemas. Para no vagar y decir mas o menos redacte un pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/1598307/ en el cual comento detalladamente mis problemas en la configuracion y puesta en marcha de la VPN. De antemano agradezco su colaboracion19:52
guideXoh I know, there's a command in virtual box for installing guest software19:53
guideXthen it pops up in ubuntuy19:53
duanedesignguideX: not sure if you are using virtualbox or not19:53
duanedesignguideX: great!19:53
guideXyeah virtualbox19:53
guideXit's installing now, maybe it'll give me better gfx afterwards19:53
pthwjtaylor_: How do you assess the threat in 3rd party PPAs?19:53
AvedoHi, I've a problem installing qt-components-ubuntu it says that some dependencies e.g. libqt5core5 are unmet19:54
duanedesignguideX: let me know because I have not installed those on my new machine either19:54
AvedoI followed the instructions at19:54
Avedohttp://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/19:54
guideXhmm weird it appears to have frozen19:55
duanedesignAvedo: what version of Ubuntu19:55
wjtaylor_pth: trust like anything else. I trust ubuntu to a high degree, as I do oracle and google. If a group of people are just collecting packages and creating ppas for everyone to use, it's a concern. Not so say they are doing something wrong, but it's a risk.19:55
AvedoQUERY duanedesig19:56
duanedesignAvedo: I could not find a package or a package that contains libqt5core5....hmmmm19:56
guideXhmm i'm going for a reset19:57
pthwjtaylor_: I agree. Strange thing Oracle hasn't bundled Java for Ubuntu.19:58
guideXhmm jeez after installing virtual box guest tools, upon boot it seems stuck on * Starting [ OK ]19:59
duanedesignpth: I have never had a problem with a PPA 'yet'.  If a bad one shows up it gets found pretty quick. Beuty of Open Source :)20:00
bekksguideX: How did you install the guesst additions?20:00
Avedo@duanedesign I#m running ubuntu 12.10 and it seems that I am not the only having this problem20:00
guideXin virtual box20:00
guideXthere's a install guest tools menu20:01
SonikkuAmericaYep20:01
guideXyep it's stuck there for good heh20:01
SonikkuAmericaWhat is?20:02
guideXmy new ubuntu install20:02
guideXstuck at "* Starting      [ OK ]"20:02
SonikkuAmericaTry it again, or use Wubi20:02
guideXhmm20:03
guideXI need it in a vm..20:03
bekksguideX: Which vbox version do you use?20:04
pthIs an Ubuntu Server with a Samba drive a security concern in an all-windows environment on the inside of a company firewall because there is no virus check of the samba drive?20:04
amphibiancan someone advise this old man what the command line entry is to change ownership of all files/directories on   sdb1, please20:04
guideX4.2.6 r8287020:04
guideXfor windows 720:04
compdocpth, no20:05
pthcompdoc: Why not?20:05
SonikkuAmericaamphibian, 'tis dangerous stuff ye wish for, but try [ chmod <whatever> / ]20:06
guideXso is there anything I can try or20:06
SonikkuAmericaOr rather [ chown ]20:06
guideXI tried restart20:06
SonikkuAmericaamphibian, [ chown <whatever> / ]20:06
compdocpth, security is as tight or as lax as you want. The shares can be visible or not. and the host running samba will not become infected.20:06
amphibianI know the chmod portion just cant remember what the number is for root20:06
compdocpth, what are you concerned about?20:07
pthcomp: Yes. So what if the samba drive is all open to the windows users. Can it be a medium for viruses to spread?20:07
amphibianor corretion chown ????20:07
SonikkuAmericaamphibian, use [ chown root / ]20:07
amphibianthanks let me try that, I was trying to think it was a number20:08
pthcompdoc: I'm not concerned! I am on the Ubuntu Box! It's the IT Department that may be concerned! :-)20:08
SonikkuAmericaamphibian, you might've been confusing chown with chmod like I did.20:08
compdocpth, sure, infected files can be stored on a samba share, just like with any windows share. But there are free AVs you can run scans on the files - namely clamav20:09
pthcompdoc: Great tip. Thanks!20:11
guideXok I deleted it20:12
guideXwhat a disaster...20:13
amphibianit keeps giving me: chown: missing operand after `root" when I enter chown root/20:13
Piciamphibian: You need to do something like: sudo chown root /path/to/whatever20:14
Piciamphibian: assuming you want it to be owned by root.20:14
amphibianI got it done, I wasn't putting a space between root and /  (me being a DA today)20:15
amphibianthanks guys for help this old goat out20:15
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ajacomhi ... im having a problem with flash in chromium, it doesn't let me click allow when the box for the webcam comes up. googling suggests adding a permanent allow to that site, but that doesn't work for me (the site still doesn't show up on that list). so what i really need is to fix this error.... any clues ?20:18
ajacomin firefox doesn't work either20:19
compdocwhich log file shows details of services starting at boot?20:21
genii-aroundcompdoc: Probably all the sub-logs in /var/log/upstart20:22
compdocthanks20:22
mrbojangles3Hi all, I am trying to install a kernel package. I have a udeb built but the driver is not getting copied in to the initrd. I have made a "normal" deb of the package and added it to the usb that i use to load the udeb, but the installer does not pickup the deb version for the initrd20:25
earlyany tips for pre smuggling a wifi driver into a lanless wubi install20:28
kslaterI tried to get 12.04.1 LTS running on my wife's Thinkpad T-41. Seemed to work pretty well, but no graphical login. Also the wifi didn't come up / wouldn't connect. I installed it fresh using mini.iso (that processor doesn't have pae so I couldn't do a normal 32 bit desktop install).20:31
kslaterI also have another hard drive that has her current Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit desktop installed. Same ipw2200 kernel module for the wireless driver which works just fine.20:32
* kslater is puzzled20:32
escottkslater, the 32bit kernel now has pae built in20:32
escottkslater, you might need a special kernel20:32
kslaterescott: now being 12.04?20:32
kslateror now being 12.10?20:33
EaglemanI got this crontab for my user teamspeak:  @reboot "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" However the crontab does nothing at a reboot, it works when i switch to the user teamspeak and execute "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Any idea what could be going wrong?20:33
escottnow being recent. i dont really care for old hardware so i dont bother to remember20:33
kslaterbecause the 32 bit 12.04 installer stopped with the no pae error message.20:33
kslaterescott: understood. But I'm just a poor, struggling guy in the middle class with 2 kids in college and 4 kids in total. So I can't just go buy new hardware when I want. :'(20:34
EaglemanThe user teamspeak does not have a home folder and has disabled login enabled, its just a user to run somethings20:34
KeyboardNotFoundubottu: help20:35
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:35
KeyboardNotFoundtell KeyboardNotFound xfce20:35
KeyboardNotFoundtell KeyboardNotFound | xfce20:36
KeyboardNotFoundKeyboardNotFound|xfce20:36
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PiciKeyboardNotFound: Can we help you?20:37
KeyboardNotFoundPici: i like to test the ubottu :D20:38
KeyboardNotFoundlove*20:38
PiciKeyboardNotFound: /msg ubottu xfce20:38
KeyboardNotFoundPici: thanks ;)20:38
otayI just installed Ubuntu 12.04.1; Is it possible to install KDE?20:40
Moparyes20:40
otayI tried apt-get install kde-full and get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: etc... E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.20:41
DJones!kde | otay20:41
ubottuotay: KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.20:41
otayPackages are broken upon clean installation?20:41
Moparsee above20:42
otayok20:42
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otayAnd, something more simple: apt-get install git (However the following packages replace it: git-el). So, I do apt-get install git-el (whatever that is) git-el : Depends: git (>= 1:1.7.4.1-2~) but it is not installable20:44
EaglemanI got this crontab for my user teamspeak ( made the user with the command: adduser --disabled-login --no-create-home ):  @reboot "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" However the crontab does nothing at a reboot, it works when i switch to the user teamspeak and execute "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Any idea what could be going wrong?20:44
otayUbuntu is telling me, "please don't install any software because I'm broken"20:45
* otay googles it too20:45
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KeyboardNotFoundi need some help, i use xubuntu 12.10, in this topic ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal ) have Keyboard Shortcut: Super + T what's the super button on keyboard ?20:46
PiciKeyboardNotFound: The 'windows' key20:46
KeyboardNotFoundPici: thank you again20:46
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EvanCarrollPici: just remember the mnumonic "Windows is SUPER"20:47
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falkowskihalo20:48
falkowskidziala to cudo?20:48
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gaetanociao dantte20:50
nunneI removed pulseaudio (was having problems with AirPlay to my xbmc). But the error might have been with avahi-daemon not running :/ well.. after installing pulseaudio again I have no volume icon.. however if i start "Settings -> Sound" I will see the devices... but no audio playback! and pressing "Test sound" it will not even "try" to play, because the speaker doesn't turn blue.20:50
nunneaaaaanyone know where I can start?? This is on ubuntu 12.10 btw :P20:51
nunneAnd spotify will not even start playback.. so something is indeed fishy20:51
gaetanociao andrei20:51
devrand0mTre20:52
BluesKajnunne, pavucontrol ? have no idea how it interacts with xbmc tho20:52
EaglemanI got this crontab for my user teamspeak ( made the user with the command: adduser --disabled-login --no-create-home ):  @reboot "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" However the crontab does nothing at a reboot, it works when i switch to the user teamspeak and execute "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Any idea what could be going wrong?20:53
PiratelvHello people,  Would these errors mean drive is dead http://paste.ubuntu.com/1598525/ ?20:53
nunneBluesKaj, pavucontrol shows my devices.. not local and my xbmc.. but however NO sound is working at the moment.. not even my local S/PDIF.. Which was working before I started borking with pulseaudio and installing pulseaudio-raop modules and shit :/20:54
nunnebut all hell broke loose after removing pulseaudio and then installing it again :/ and I have no idea what I'm missing for getting audio back online20:54
PiciEagleman: are there entries in /var/log/auth.log for cron for when you expect that to run?20:54
BluesKajnunne, have you tried reloading the kernel module /audio driver ?20:55
PiciEagleman: and/or /var/log/syslog20:55
BluesKajnunne, check for audio modules ,cat /proc/asound/modules20:57
EaglemanPici sessions got opened and the command was being executed20:58
nunnesudo modprobe snd_hda_intel - no difference :/20:58
daftykinsPiratelv: could be a bad cable20:58
PiciEagleman: will ts3server_startscript.sh fail if you don't have a network connection?20:58
EaglemanPici i dont think so20:59
Piratelvdaftykins, Good point. I've already had it in different ports. Will try right away. But the drive is clikking and spinning down (crashing to a halt more likely) and spinning up again.20:59
daftykinsPiratelv: hrmm, i've only ever had drives click away - not go so far as to spin down. has it been through some trauma?21:00
daftykinsPiratelv: that could also be intermittent power i guess21:00
EaglemanPici, it used to work in my rc.local file21:00
Eagleman:q!21:00
Piratelvdaftykins, Fresh out of the packaging. power on time less then 2 hours.21:00
PiciEagleman: If you add this to the end of the command in cron, you might see an error that is getting lost:  > /tmp/t3start.log 2>&121:00
daftykinsPiratelv: angry courier company that likes to play throw the parcel? :S21:01
BluesKajnunne, okj tom make it stick, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf,  options snd-hda-intel index=0 , that makes your card0 defauit , save the file and reboot21:01
Piratelvdaftykins, maybe. But since it's clicking I'm just going to file it as DOA and send it back. Haven't had one succesfull detect/read of it yet so..21:02
EaglemanPici it did tried to send 4 emails to teamspeak@example.com, but that user does not exist in my user table, bounced21:02
PiciEagleman: Well, that probably contained an error.21:02
daftykinsPiratelv: nasty :(21:02
EaglemanPici: /bin/sh: 1: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start: not found21:03
BluesKajnunne, don't worry about pulse right now it will see thchanges in alsa-base and adjust it'sd conf file accordingly21:03
PiciEagleman: Odd.  Is that a normal space before 'start'? If you copy and pasted it from a website, it might be putting something weird there.21:04
EaglemanPici just a normal space:  @reboot "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" > /tmp/t3start.log 2>&121:05
EaglemanIt looks like the shell doesnt know what to do, anything to do with how i created the user? adduser --disabled-login --no-create-home21:05
Piratelvdaftykins, Worst is, it's my second drive so far :/ Let's hope third time does is the charm.21:05
PiciEagleman: I wouldn't put double quotes around the entire command. I'm not sure how sh/dash handles that.21:05
Piratelvdaftykins, Thanks for the assist.21:06
daftykinsPiratelv: erk! good luck :) my pleasure21:06
EaglemanThanks a lot Pico, just heard the female connected voice from teamspeak21:08
EaglemanDouble " were giving me a hard time21:08
hitafhello21:08
PiciEagleman: yay21:08
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falkowskihi21:10
falkowskiall21:10
falkowskinice old school chat21:10
falkowski:)21:10
FloodBot1falkowski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:10
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falkowskidid it last time 13 years ago21:10
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ubottufalkowski, please see my private message21:12
falkowskiok21:12
fusion271What should I google or what do I need to to make it so when my ubuntu box fires up it gets the same IP every time?21:12
bekksfusion271: "static ip ubuntu" :)21:13
fusion271tx bekks21:13
genii-aroundfusion271: One of 2 ways: Either use your router to assign the same number to it by it's mac address, or specify it in /etc/network/interfaces21:13
bekksgenii-around: fusion271: Or configure a static IP in network-manager.21:14
genii-aroundbekks: I'm just giving the desktop-agnostic version ;)21:14
KrenairTrying to install a test copy of reddit on a ubuntu 12.04 virtual machine21:16
KrenairAm getting this error:21:17
Krenairpython-pylons: Depends: python-webhelpers (>= 0.6.4) but 0.6.3~precise is to be installed21:17
fusion271Any of you guys successfully rolled OSX as a virtual box guest?  I'm about done with this as my parent OS.21:17
fusion271but need for iOS development21:17
Krenair0.6.4~precise*, even. Couldn't copy+paste out of the vm21:17
genii-around!info python-webhelpers precise21:18
ubottupython-webhelpers (source: webhelpers): library of helper functions to make writing web application templates easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 139 kB, installed size 577 kB21:18
davidjonezcan anyone help me with a problem I am having with unetbootin? .... here is there errors http://pastebin.com/yxSgupTb21:18
OerHeksfusion271, it is illegal to run OSx in Virtual Box AFAIK21:19
danielSquaredhow much bandwidth will SSH use?21:19
davidjonezI'm trying to put BT5-R3-32bit on a usb but it keeps stopping at 39% and not doing anything21:19
danielSquaredFor, idk, 20 minutes of use.21:19
bekksfusion271: Which hardware do you have?21:19
EaglemanIn which order are crontabs executed?21:19
bekksEagleman: From top to bottom.21:20
bekksEagleman: And then, chronologically.21:20
Eaglemanlike in ls -l ?21:20
pnkbstfusion271: I would recommend creating the app for linux on ubuntu in c++, then sharing the code for much less dev time on os x.  it's not worth the trouble and illegal to run os x on ubuntu in a vm21:20
bekksEagleman: chronologically from the sum of all crontabs.21:20
jose106davidjonez, you might this this sudo ./unetbootin-linux-*21:20
bekkspnkbst: Which is not true.21:21
jose106davidjonez, it also depends how you installed it21:21
bekkspnkbst: It is perfectly legal to run OSX on a VM, when you have apple HARDWARE.21:21
fusion271bekks: 6month old MacBook Pro21:21
genii-aroundKrenair: You can always just do sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/<name-of-python-pylons-debfile-here>21:21
bekkspnkbst: Then it is legal as per Apple's licensing aggreement.21:21
fusion271OSX all-of-a-sudden is feels so restricted21:22
pnkbstbekks: I know that.  it's not legal to run on ubuntu on non-apple-hardware21:22
bekkspnkbst: Correct, yes.21:22
danielSquaredAnyone know the answer to my question?21:22
bekkspnkbst: :P21:22
Eaglemanbekks like this?  http://pastebin.com/zi0eqA3w21:22
davidjonezno command found and I installed it through the ubuntu software centre21:22
davidjonezI do have the executable file for it but not sure how to run the file in terminal21:23
bekksEagleman: Now take all contents from these files, and order it chronologically.21:23
fusion271pnkbst: not really interested in getting my feet wet with c++ for this purpose21:23
Eaglemanon command?21:23
jose106davidjonez, try this http://pastebin.com/tdmHhHxN21:23
rckrdHey guys.  I normally ssh into a computer.  But it has a dynamic IP and now I can't ssh into it anymore.  Although i have been able to reach the console remotely through IPMI, and ssh seems to be working normally...any ideas what could be stopping it?21:23
bekksEagleman: On which command?21:24
pnkbstbekks: you also have to run a version of os x that is cracked, which is also not legal21:24
jose106davidjonez, it's in spanish since that's how I keep it for me21:24
bekkspnkbst: Which is not true again. See the vbox manual please :)21:24
pnkbstbekks: well that was the case the last time I looked21:24
Krenairgenii-around, doesn't look like I have a python-pylons deb there...21:25
Eaglemanbekks, i want to know if if [ -e /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid ]; then rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid; fi is executed before: @reboot /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start > /tmp/t3start.log 2>&121:25
bekkspnkbst: That must have been before 2007 then.21:25
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bekksEagleman: "if [ -e /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid ]; then rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid; fi" is not a valid crontab entry.21:25
bekksEagleman: It is missing the execution time.21:25
Eaglemanon @reboot21:25
danielSquaredDoes _anyone_ know?  :(21:26
pnkbstbekks: o rly? link?21:26
bekkspnkbst: Same link as before 2007 :P www.virtualbox.org21:26
bekksEagleman: So please pastebin the contents of your crontab files.21:26
BoreeasI recently replaced my old HDD with an SSD. Since then, suspend-to-disk fails, either not even entering hibernation or hibernating, but not resuming. The partitions all stayed the same, I pretty much cloned them 1:121:27
BoreeasAny idea where that trouble comes from?21:27
bekksBoreeas: How much swap did you create?21:27
danielSquaredso nobody can help?21:27
bekks!anyone | danielSquared21:28
ubottudanielSquared: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:28
danielSquaredbekks: I already asked.21:28
bekksdanielSquared: And you are assuming everyone have read it :)21:28
Eaglemanbekks:  http://pastebin.com/7LLsVcmF21:28
danielSquared[16:19] <danielSquared> how much bandwidth will SSH use? [16:19] <danielSquared> For, idk, 20 minutes of use.21:28
danielSquaredbekks: pasted again :)21:28
bekksdanielSquared: "pretty low bandwidth".21:29
pnkbsthowever, xcode is slow enough as it is.  running over virtualbox is going to make it ever slower21:29
bekksdanielSquared: It entirely depends on what you are doing using SSH.21:29
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: It depends entirely on how much data you're transferring over the connection.21:29
trehi, is it possible to install windows 7 when i have got linux  installed and only iso image of windows on my linux system??21:29
danielSquaredhmm21:29
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: It can use 0 to as much as the connection can handle.21:29
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: It's a protocol, not a process.21:29
danielSquaredFor just text21:29
bekkstre: Yes, using virtualbox, e.g.21:29
danielSquaredI know, my bad21:29
danielSquaredFor just text21:29
bekksdanielSquared: For HOW MUCH text.21:29
DarthEaroni cannot format my 1TB hdd with "Disks" it gives me alot of errors, i used to use it with wii games, so it needed a special windows program to regognize the file system. i am no longer use windows and i cant get my drive back21:30
danielSquaredI guess I can be more specific21:30
pnkbstbekks: that's odd.  I don't see any mention of os x there21:30
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: Are you typing with one finger or dumping thousands of lines of logfile?21:30
bekksdanielSquared: Going to run "dmesg" on and on again will use more bandwidth than just sitting in front of a prompt.21:30
Boreeasbekks: Ah, free tells me that I don't have any at all. I created a 10GB one, though, which is also listed in /etc/fstab21:30
danielSquaredbekks: Average use21:30
bekkspnkbst: Well, I do. :)21:30
danielSquaredNo long text files21:30
otayWell, the boss Ixnayed Ubuntu. After a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04.1 alternate, no packages can be installed because of broken dependencies. So, the boss came by and said, "forget it"21:30
danielSquaredI will be using text editors and running basic commands21:30
otayThat is my report <eom>21:31
davidjonezjose106, thank you for your help, that fixed my errors with running unetbootin but i am still getting stuck at 39%21:31
bekksBoreeas: Then check using cat /proc/swaps21:31
DarthEaroncan anyonepoint me in the right direction?21:31
jose106davidjonez, give it sometime21:31
bekksdanielSquared: Then the answer is "pretty low bandwidth".21:31
danielSquaredheh21:31
danielSquaredHow much could I do with 500 megabytes?21:31
guideXin windows, i will do a 'ping <my computer hostname> -4' to see the network ip address, how do I do that in linux?21:31
bekksdanielSquared: Depends.21:31
danielSquaredguideX: ifconfig?21:31
bekksdanielSquared: How can we know what you are doing exactly?21:32
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DarthEaronguideX: use ifconfig21:32
danielSquaredheh21:32
Boreeasbekks: Nothing. How do I configure it to be automatically swapped on when the computer starts?21:32
danielSquaredFor what I described before21:32
bekkstre: Keep it in the channel please.21:32
danielSquaredNo long text files, some text editing of relatively small files21:32
bekksBoreeas: Then you dont have swap and thats why you cant use suspend.21:32
danielSquaredAnd basic commands with not too much output21:32
danielSquaredI know I'm not being specific21:32
BlueEagleguideX: nslookup example.com21:32
DarthEaroncan anyone please help me with this21:32
bekksdanielSquared: Then dont expect specific answers.21:33
danielSquaredI don't really know how to :(21:33
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: Most people read less than 200 words per minute, type less than 60.  Figure 5 characters per word.21:33
trebekks...but i could run windows only thru the virtualbox? or not?21:33
bekkstre: Correct.21:33
genii-aroundKrenair: Alternately, download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/python-pylons/download to your local directory and run the sudo dpkg -i --force-depends   on it from there21:33
danielSquaredjhutchins_wk: Ok.  How much bandwidth is 60 words then?  XD21:33
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: 8 bits per character.21:33
bekksdanielSquared: Calculate it :P21:33
danielSquaredok21:33
danielSquaredYeah, 8 bits per char21:33
jhutchins_wk5*8*6021:33
guideXwow thanks that works great21:33
danielSquaredOk, that's pretty much all I need then!21:33
guideXit's right there21:34
bekksdanielSquared: And calculate the SSH protocol overhead and the TCP protocol overhead.21:34
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: May I ask why it matters?21:34
danielSquaredjhutchins_wk: I'm getting that "freedompop" 500 megabytes free 4g21:34
guideXoh wait, but what can't I ping it from the host computer?21:34
guideXso inet addr is wrong?21:34
danielSquaredAnd I'm going to hook it up to my raspberrypi21:34
danielSquaredalong with a USB battery21:34
jhutchins_wkdanielSquared: So you're wondering how much text you can type in 500 megabytes.21:34
danielSquaredPretty much.21:34
bekksguideX: wrong address, missing dns, missing default gateway, broken cable, etc.21:35
danielSquaredThat's a better way to phrase it :)21:35
trebekks so i need cd with windows to install it next to linux?21:35
bekkstre: Correct.21:35
danielSquaredThanks a lot guys!21:35
danielSquaredI appreciate the help!21:35
jhutchins_wkbekks: 208,333,333.33 words.21:36
danielSquared8bits was all I was looking for.21:36
trebad for me :(21:36
bekksjhutchins_wk: What about the MTU size and the TCP/SSH overhead...?21:36
hanasakiwhat program will scan to a PDF from an HP printer? what package to install?21:36
jhutchins_wkEr, no that's minutes @ 60 wpm.21:36
jhutchins_wkhanasaki: xsane21:36
Krenairgenii-around, are you sure about the --force-depends on that? I'm getting lots of 'Package <dependancy> is not installed', I'm not sure force-depends would resolve that..?21:37
hanasakijhutchins_wk:  thanks... the hp package does not seem to scan to pdf just jpg21:37
BlueEaglehanasaki: Depends a bit on the HP printer tbh.21:37
jose106davidjonez, Did it work?21:37
hanasakiwhat is flatbed vs ADF?21:39
pnkbstbekks: so you have actually installed a vanilla os x 10.8 system in virtualbox and it installed without any difficulties?21:39
davidjonezyea the installation just finished, thank you for your help :)21:39
hanasakijhutchins_wk:  xsane is just doing the single page / not running the pages in the sheet feeder21:40
genii-aroundKrenair: eg: you install the python-webhelpers first, then do the --force-depends.21:40
hanasakiah.. ADF = auto doc feeder21:41
genii-aroundKrenair: Did you run first a sudo apt-get update before trying your original python-pylons install? It's possible there might have been old package info21:41
pnkbstbekks: I have yet to see where anything I said wasn't true.21:42
Krenairgenii-around, the install script ran it for me...21:42
kslaterso I've read that some people had success in doing some upgrades from 10.04 to 11.xx to 12.04 and the wifi driver works. There must be some config that I'm missing by installing 12.04 directly.21:43
bekkspnkbst: Well, the vbox manual tells you which OSX version is supported on which hardware.21:45
guideXhow do I disable the firewall on ubuntu21:45
genii-aroundKrenair: What I find interesting is it's reporting 0.6-something as version when 1.3-2 is what's in the repos.21:46
_helios_guideX: use 'man ufw'21:46
tchaffeeGot a new laptop with Windows 8 already on it and want to install Ubuntu dual boot, but it's not working. I follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI and I get the EFI grub boot menu but then Ubuntu won't boot.  Any ideas?21:47
beandogguideX: ufw disable ... I think21:47
escottguideX, sudo iptables -F21:47
guideXcool thanks21:48
genii-aroundKrenair: Can you put that install script you used in a pastebin to be looked at please?21:48
Krenairgenii-around, well it did add the reddit ppa, would that change things?21:48
guideXufw disable crashed it :)21:48
luisthey guys i mount /dev on /other/folder/dev to use on a chroot.... now i cant umount because its busy... should i force it? is there another way?21:48
Krenairgenii-around, it's here: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/install-reddit.sh21:48
genii-aroundKrenair: That might explain why it wants that old version, yes21:48
beandogufw is pretty crappy21:48
budmanghow do I update my 12.04 install to the latest kernel/21:49
craigbass1976I installed xubuntu 12.04 initially, but now I've finally taken a liking to Unity.  I thought apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop and apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop would get rid of it, but it didn't happen.  How do I do that?21:49
escottluist, kill every process in the chroot and you should be able to break the bind mount21:50
guideXon the other hand, i'm not able to figure out the local ip of my ubuntu machine21:50
_helios_guideX: type ifconfig21:50
luistescott... wow there are SO MANY!21:50
guideXbut when I ping ifconfig from the local machine, it doesn't respond21:51
guideXlike it's not there...21:51
luistescott, i feel that the processes using it are the same as the ones using /dev21:51
kslaterescott: couldn't he use fuser to tell him what processes are locking it?21:51
_helios_guideX: could be a router issue.21:51
escottluist, what did you run in the chroot?21:51
guideXwell the host pc is the physical machine running windows 7, the ubuntu is a vm21:52
luistescott, nothing..... just tried to start it via sshd21:52
guideXi'm able to see the internet from the ubuntu, but ping ubuntu from windows21:52
beandogguideX: did you setup the vm to use a bridged adapter?21:52
pnkbstbekks: which version is that?  apple won't allow you to submit apps with old versions of xcode, which means you need os x 10.7 or 10.8 to keep developing for iOS21:52
guideXhmm I didn't21:52
beandogthat's the problem21:52
guideXah ok..21:52
guideXI will change it21:52
bekkspnkbst: The only supported version of OSX for a vbox vm is OSX server, as stated in the vbox manual.21:53
escottluist, what command did you use to bind mound and what command are you using to unmount21:53
luistescott, this is the start script: http://pastie.org/602360021:53
pnkbstbekks: that's not a version, it's a type.  os x server has the same versioning as the consumer version21:54
tchaffeeAnyone with ideas on the UEFI install? I've tried everything and am pretty stuck.21:54
hanasakiwhat is a good program that encrypts one or more files and works on windows and linux?  zip with encryption and compression is desireable however I understand it is very hackable :(21:54
bekkshanasaki: Truecrypt.21:54
escotthanasaki, gpg21:55
luistescott, and these are the mount functions: http://pastie.org/602360421:55
hanasakiescott:  considered gpg however it needs a registration not just a password - and its not something joe average windows user can handle right?21:55
escotthanasaki, registration?21:56
escottluist, my guess is the sshd process is still running21:56
bekkshanasaki: It does not need a registration but a password to be remembered.21:56
Bray90820every time i try to install ubuntu i get this error21:56
Bray90820executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed21:56
luistescott, oh.. maybe21:56
luistescott, on the host right21:56
escotthanasaki, and joe average users idea of encryption is rot13 so i wouldn't base your decisions on that21:57
hanasakiescott:  right - problem is .. Joe is the recipient of the file lol21:57
bekkshanasaki: Then he needs to setup a gpg key and send you the public key.21:58
hanasakiis 7zip any better with passwords and encryption than zip?21:58
luistescott, it worked!! thanks :)21:58
bekkshanasaki: Nope.21:58
genii-aroundKrenair: The packages which are specific to them are: python-pycassa python-pycaptcha python-snudown python-l2cs and python-kazoo       So I would suggest you remove the ppa, remove all packages except those specific  packages in lines 114-153. Install the other packages from regular repositories. Then install the ppa again, run the script with just those ones in there21:59
chromeHello, I have been really curious with Swap and Swappiness lately.  I was wondering, is there anyway to dedicate a a complete partition to Swap? Similarly like how you can flash Ubuntu to ram.  Any thoughts?21:59
hanasakibekks:  hmm cannot even tell them to use ARK on kde... it doesn't support passwords in the gui21:59
escotthanasaki, how are you going to get the password to this person? and how secure is this persons computer?21:59
hanasakiescott:  phone call22:00
guideXis there a way to turn off movies and stuff in the search bar?22:00
hanasakiescott:  computer is secure... they just aren't too techi22:00
dual-boot-fails-installed ubuntu 12.10 with windows 7 and it boots to windows 7 only after do boot repair in ubuntu live.22:00
demoniohi all how can i enable backslash features in linux terminal?22:01
escotthanasaki, i wonder if you would be better off just setting up an sftp server and asking them to pull the file from you directly22:01
bekksdemonio: What are "backslash features"?22:01
escotthanasaki, but the encryption is AES-25622:01
eightieskhello, my i start off with saying this isn't my mess i'm just attempting to fix it22:01
hanasakiescott:  perhaps... but if they cannot do zip from the command line.. they arnt going to be able to handle sftp22:01
guideXhow do you add something to the unity toolbar?22:01
guideXwhere the icons are22:01
escotthanasaki, they can use a gui like fireftp22:02
eightieskmy boss changed Intrepid to precise in his sources.list and then updated...22:02
eightieskit broke everything22:02
escotteightiesk, reinstall22:02
demonioyes i had make a c program and this command "printf ("\rhello");" don't work22:02
hanasakiescott:  I wish I worked with folks like you :)  /   their firewall only lets out http and https22:02
eightieskescott: lol oh well then22:02
eightieskescott: i don't get paid enough to do this dumb stuff22:03
eightieski can't believe the stupidity of this man22:03
escotthanasaki, im sure the 7zip encryption is as good as the security of their computer or the abilty of someone to tap your phone lines. those are probably the weak points22:03
bekksdemonio: Then you are experiencing c programming problems and not Ubuntu problems.22:03
escotteightiesk, post it to thedailywtf22:03
Bray90820Anyone know22:04
demoniono the problem from linux terminal22:04
Bray90820executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed22:04
escottdemonio, the terminal is not C22:05
Krenairgenii-around, cassandra has no installation candidate22:05
demoniocommand printf ()22:06
Krenairnot available, but referred to by another package22:06
demonioprint in terminal22:06
demoniothis program in windows work22:06
demonioin a linux terminal about my friend work just in mine22:06
hatakewhat is this ubottu@ubuntu/bot/ubottu22:06
escott!bot22:06
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots22:06
hatakewhy on private message ?22:07
hatakewho sent ?22:08
genii-aroundKrenair: Ah, apologies, I that is another from their repositories, leave that in there too22:08
ns-nazriguest ! can you help me22:08
hatakewho sent22:09
hatakens-nazri, what problem22:09
ns-nazriwhen i open terminal, in top line (“alias: command not found22:10
ns-nazri“alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/sonyNEO”22:10
ns-nazri) and how kill this process alias22:10
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hatakeyou run android on top of ubuntu22:11
ClientAlivewhere is really the best place to install eclipse ide? I had it in /opt before and nothing but problems. I'm not certain this was due to perm issues or not (though I couldn't get updates for it sometimes becuause of perms). I'm looking at /usr/bin and /usr/sbin but they are both ownded by root! I don't want an application in my ~/22:11
escottns-nazri, remove it from your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile22:12
bizhanMonaHI I would like to test ubuntu 12.10 performance (cpu utilization, networking, disk access) on different servers that we own. I was wondering if there is any tool provided by Ubuntu that I can use? Thx22:12
ns-nazriescott : how to remove22:12
escottns-nazri, with a text editor22:12
ns-nazrii first time this issu22:12
Kyokohi all :) I was searching for a good linux tablet... not android but linux cause to make sure I have all the flash available... any ideas/recommendations? :)22:13
OHNOZbizhanMona, you can just use cpuinfo and free or top etc?22:14
hatakens-nazri, open your .bashrc search and comment line  “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/sonyNEO”22:14
ClientAliveWhere is really the best place to install eclipse on linux? I had it in /opt before but nothing but problems. I'm looking at /usr/bin but it is owned by root. I don't want and application in ~/  (just don't want programs there). any ideas?22:14
jribClientAlive: what's the problem with /opt?22:14
jribClientAlive: (also, eclipse is in the repositories)22:15
bizhanMonaOHNOZ: thanks I am mainly looking for some benchmarking tool, I find ubuntu provides hardinfo package that might be useful .... Thx22:15
stackycan anyone please direct me towards the solution of hp dv6 's nvidia graphic card(630M) incompatibility with ubuntu 12.10 ?22:15
OHNOZbizarro_1, lbs.sourceforge.net ?22:16
OHNOZbizhanMona *22:16
OHNOZmy bad22:16
bizhanMonaOHNOZ: you great, thanks22:16
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ClientAlivejrib: yeah, I prefer to use the newer eclipse from their site if any way possible. Had permission probs with getting updates as well and installing anything (perms plus broken deps up the wazoo). Plus trying to get it to run any multifile project wasn't happening (it used to do it on it's own just fine, then today started acting up and I don't know why - spent the last 3 hrs trying to fix eclipse and not getting any work done).22:18
jribClientAlive: changing its location won't help any of that22:19
DrGrovGood evening. I was in yesterday with my problem regarding random logouts while using Chrome. I am running 12.04 and have just recently this week experienced this issue.22:20
escottClientAlive, if its going to be in opt and owned by root then you wont be able to update it22:20
jribClientAlive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE might offer you some guidance22:20
ClientAlivejrib: well... I don't know what to do brother. I need to get this work done, I love the features of eclipse (when they work) and I can't even fathom doing this project in a basic editor.22:20
ClientAlivethx22:20
OHNOZi like sublime myself22:20
ns-nazrihatake : way location .bashrc22:20
stackyplease help, hp dv6 is not booting ubuntu 12.10 in compatible graphics mode instead working in low graphics and i can't even configure, because the option takes me back to same menu and i have already tried rm /etc/X11/xorg.config and installing nvidia-current following nvidia-xconfig?22:21
OHNOZid just use an older distro :322:21
hatakens-nazri, home , cd ~/22:21
rckrdHey guys, i need to FTP to a computer through LAN.  I've forwarded the ftp ports but i'm still having trouble connecting22:22
guideXok so I have bridged networking setup, but I still can't rdp into it..22:22
guideXhow do I setup rdp to my ubuntu machine22:22
ns-nazriok i check first22:22
ClientAlivejrib: do you think it would cause a problem if I installed it to a hidden folder in my home directory? <- the "hidden" part being my concern.22:22
escottClientAlive,22:23
escottClientAlive, no22:23
ClientAlivewell ok22:23
ClientAlivethx22:23
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DrGrovApparently there is nothing I can do about my issues?22:24
ns-nazrihatake: thank you i can fine finally22:25
jrib!helpme | DrGrov22:25
ubottuDrGrov: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude22:25
ns-nazrihatake : i see hiden home22:25
ClientAlivewhat exactly is the deal with linux perms? I see that /home is owned by root:root but /home/myUname is myUnam:myUname. Now I thought that the parent dir took precedence in perms and what was allowed with subdir of that parent? Am I mistaken?22:26
DrGrovjrib: Sure.22:26
hatakens-nazri, no problem22:26
ClientAliveCan I create a folder in /usr/bin  owned by myUnam:myUname and be just fine?22:26
escottClientAlive, its not any different from any other system out there22:26
ZiberClientAlive: Why not $HOME/bin?22:26
escottClientAlive, you could but you shouldn't because its odd22:26
ns-nazrihatake : can you know how connect android phone22:27
ClientAlivedon't wan programs there - they simply do not belong there (imho)22:27
ClientAlive*want*22:27
escottClientAlive, also you should never use /usr for non-apt stuff, you should use /usr/local or /opt22:27
hatakens-nazri, on ubuntu plug and play22:27
ZiberIf it's a system wide program, put it in /usr/bin, if it's a locally installed one, $HOME/bin, $HOME/.bin, etc22:27
ClientAliveescott: /usr/local <- forgot about that. I'll take a look see22:28
pc_magasHello guys22:28
pc_magasDid you downloades Rigs of Rods Via ppa?22:28
hatakens-nazri, for remote phone, installed sshdroid on your phone, and ssh with your pc22:28
pc_magasBecause this version cannot load any terrain22:28
pc_magasAnd into Rigs of Rods Channel I cannot see anyone22:29
Bray90820can someone help me manually install grub22:30
Krenairgenii-around, yay I think it's working now,22:30
hatake!grub22:30
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:30
Krenairthanks!22:30
escottClientAlive, i would think /opt makes more sense than /usr/local for a monolithic package like eclipse22:30
genii-aroundKrenair: You're welcome22:31
ClientAliveok, so, /usr/local perms are "drwxr-xr-x  ... root root  ... local"  If I make a dir in /usr/local with "drwxr-xr-x  ... myUname myUname  ... eclipse"  or "drwxr-xr-x  ... myUname myUname  ... .eclipse"  should I expect any perms issues?22:31
Bray90820i didn't loose it after windows install22:31
OerHekspc_magas, You'll then need to download terrain and vehicle packs from the RoR site. >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/186125/how-do-i-install-rigs-of-rods22:31
Bray90820the live cd just refuses to install it22:31
hatakeBray90820, re install your grub22:31
OerHekspc_magas, if you are not allowed in that channel, you need to register first22:31
pc_magasOerHeks, I did I installed some but it does not see them22:31
escottClientAlive, its not standard and people will look at you funny, but myUname shouldnt have any issues, anyone else on the system will22:31
DrGrovCould I easily reinstall my nVidia drivers, an older version preferrably, but keep my xorg.conf settings as they are and then rewrite the new xorg.conf with the old info?22:32
OerHeks!register > pc_magas22:32
ubottupc_magas, please see my private message22:32
pc_magasOerHeks, I am registered to the server22:32
Bray90820hatake i am aware of that but how22:32
ClientAliveescott: I just deleted it from there 20 min ago. It was owed by messagebus and something group. I have no idea what that is and thought it would be causing the problem. No?22:32
Argument22hello alls22:32
ClientAliveescott: I had changed it to my username (owner and group) and it didn't seem to change anything22:33
escottClientAlive, eclipse is a bad program in that it pulls modifications to its own code from the web. so if you install it and it is owned by root then only root can pull updates22:33
ClientAliveI see22:33
Bray90820So anyone wanna help me install it since the live disc refuses to install it22:33
Bray90820grub that is22:34
hatakeBray90820, use live cd and., sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt ,22:34
hatakesudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda22:34
hatake,22:34
hatakesudo update-grub22:34
Bray90820thank you22:34
Bray90820but is it always =/mnt/ /dev/sda22:34
Bray90820because i have more then 1 drive in there22:34
escottBray90820, why is the livecd refusing to install it?22:34
hatakeBray90820, use fdisk -l22:34
ns-nazrihatake : sshdroid install "google play"22:35
Bray90820escott i get this error22:35
Bray90820executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed22:35
hatakens-nazri, yes22:35
escottBray90820, can you post the output of "sudo parted -l"22:35
Bray90820ok22:35
hatakeBray90820, use this http://dpaste.com/904345/22:36
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rckrdHey guys.  So i'm connect through a router to a computer, but I can't ssh or ftp locally.  I've forwarded the ports.  Is there something i'm missing?22:36
ns-nazrihatake: how to ssh on ubuntu22:36
hatakesearch your partiton, fdisk -l . sda1 just sample22:36
Bray90820thank you22:36
escotthatake, you need to stop using fdisk yesterday22:37
hatakens-nazri, on pc just type ssh root@youripaddressandroid22:37
hatakeescott, why22:37
escotthatake, it cannot read GPT disks22:37
escotthatake, its basically abandonware22:38
dw-my cups is going crazy, since upgrade to 12.04 (i think) debug log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1598814/ ideas?22:39
dw-it just keeps looping forever...22:39
hatakeescott, hmm, sometimes I use ubuntu, im arch user, but I think the same thing i dont know this issue22:39
ns-nazrihatake: so ip add in android can take22:39
hatakens-nazri, ya just run sshdroid, and remote it, default password admin22:40
bray90820im back22:40
bray90820so now what did you want the output of22:40
Goldwingdw- : just my 2 cents, first, it seems like its waiting for a EOF (End Of File) from 2 clients, did you try to delete the print que?22:42
ns-nazrihatake: so nice, yapeee!!! i can open and look my folder. thank you again...22:42
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dw-Goldwing: nothing in queue :/22:43
bray90820someone wanted me to give them the output of a file22:43
bray90820cn you say it again22:43
bray90820well output of a command22:43
Goldwingsecond :  /etc/init.d/cups restart22:43
Goldwingdw-  /etc/init.d/cups restart22:43
dw-Goldwing: it just goes crazy again.. currently trying to fight my way through teh spam to see what it says just after restart :)22:43
DmnchildIs there a way for me to copy something from my /home/ to another user /home/ on admin account? I keep getting a omitting directory msg22:44
Goldwingdw- have you tried to remove/reinstall the printer?22:44
bray90820there was someone who was helping me with22:45
bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed22:45
delianDmnchild: rsync -av /home/user1/Something/  /home/user2/DestinationFolder/22:45
bray90820he told me to post the ouput of a command22:45
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* Goldwing is soo happy, got a non-linux printer working, and even got airprint working on it22:45
bray90820who was that again22:46
dw-Goldwing: oh it does say 4 hidden jobs.. must be the ones that said they were printing but didnt actually print :)22:47
Goldwingwell, delete those22:47
bray90820so can anyon else help me install grub manually22:47
dw-Goldwing: its really weird... abiword and other apps print, until i switch abiword to landscape the it doesnt print :/22:48
guideXcan someone help me enable rdp on the ubuntu machine? I Can't get it working :(22:48
Goldwingdw- paper-size problem22:48
guideXI have vino setup22:48
guideXwhat commands do I type in the terminal to get it running22:48
dw-Goldwing: yeah, am trying to print a simple custom envelope. worked fine before upgrade..22:48
Goldwingdw- you might need to check the ppd file22:49
Goldwingdw- i'm guessing there is a default set wrong22:49
hatakeguideX, top22:49
guideXtop?22:49
Argument22How can i make  own home server   :(22:50
Argument22help pls22:50
GoldwingArgument22 : uuhhmm.. that's like asking, how can i build a car, help please22:50
hatakeArgument22, go your home22:50
sianhulohey guys, I unistalled vmware workstation but it's still in my dash(virtual manager editor is there too)and even though they do nothing, the fact that they are still showing up is bugging me. whereis won't return anything, what to do?22:50
bray90820So anyone know22:51
bray90820why are you asking me22:51
bray90820oops wrong22:51
hatakebray90820, whats wrong22:51
bray90820i can't install grub22:51
bray90820i get this error22:51
bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed22:51
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hatakewhat output fdisk -l bray9082022:52
Goldwingbray90820 : cat /etc/fstab22:52
hatakebray90820, output #blkid22:52
hatakepaste on pastebin pasteubuntu, or etc22:53
bray90820fdisk -l just gies me a blank line22:53
bozzolinoHey guys , sorry for asking but does anybody know how to fix the blurry text problem with nvidia graphic cards? Tried nouveau still a mess.(Gt630 is the card)22:53
bray90820nevermind i got output22:53
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hatakebray90820, use live cd, and reboot again22:54
sianhuloguys, I uninstalled vmware but its icon still shows up on the dash, whereis won't return any path, what do I do?22:54
bray90820i am on the live cd as we speak22:54
programmerhow to allow adobe flash player?22:55
bray90820and this is teh output of fdisk -l22:55
bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FB1AUZkH22:55
OptimizedCoderneed some quick help with 'dd'22:56
programmerhi! anyone know how to allow adobe flash player in ubuntu?22:56
bray90820hatake now what22:56
xanguaprogrammer allow what¿ read minds¿ :)22:56
dw-Goldwing: the craziness calmed down mostly once i started probing lpq and lpstat from commandline.  restart still says jobs:4 active:0 ... cant see them tho. dont know how to stop em22:56
programmerhow to go to this web22:56
programmerhttp://web.sanguosha.com/220_8/play.html?server=822:56
OptimizedCoderneed to copy just 1572684bytes from a file into another file using dd22:56
programmerin ubuntu22:56
OptimizedCoderI"m not able to achieve something so trivial22:56
programmerafter the waiting you need to choose allow22:57
programmerbut search not find anything22:57
hatakebray90820, whre your linux partition root22:57
joshlegsprogrammer, do you have the 'restricted-extras' ?22:57
programmerno22:57
joshlegsi think you need that. just google it to find out how to get them22:58
joshlegsi dont remember right off hand22:58
programmerI never install anything like that myself22:58
programmerok thanks22:58
joshlegslet me know how it goes22:58
programmerso is java restricted-extras?22:58
Goldwingdw- i would try to remove the printer and reinstall it22:58
joshlegsprogrammer, i think it needs some of the restricted extras cuz its proprietary22:59
joshlegsbut dont let 'restricted' fool you. it's all legit :)22:59
programmerok22:59
programmerso much things relate to it22:59
bozzolinoGuys can please someone help me out with the blurry text problem with nvidia graphic cards?22:59
programmerwhich one should I pick?22:59
bray90820hatake what do you mean23:00
programmerthey got raring, hardy...all different kind23:00
dw-goldwing: yea jobs:0 now. wish i could fix the print issue for my envelopes tho.. its a nightmare.  abiword was the only prog that actually printed them properly.  print to cups-PDF works, but everything else has a margin issue where the return address is mostly gone due to some margin/printable area stuff.23:00
joshlegsprogrammer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats23:00
dw-goldwing: i did play with the PPD to no avail23:01
programmerthanks a lot23:01
pc_magasSpeaking of restricted formats does .mp3 is restricted one?23:01
joshlegsyw23:01
programmerlet's see after installing23:01
dw-goldwing: also if i print the PDF it has the margin issue too hah23:01
xanguajoshlegs: programmer that's not going to help https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=332844323:01
programmer?23:02
joshlegsprogrammer, you might need this too23:02
joshlegshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash23:02
programmerok23:02
dw-goldwing: tried all available drivers.. meh. bad printer.. and now bad cups or something23:02
joshlegsoh ok. maybe try xangua advice then programmer  :)23:02
programmerwhat you mean not going to help23:02
programmerok23:02
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Goldwingdw- i'm positive it's a defaults problem in the PPD file (i had the same problem today, prints didn't go through because it was set to letter and my printer is a A4)23:02
programmerIt seems like a problem java never fix23:03
Goldwingi fixed it by setting the defaults to A423:03
xanguajoshlegs: not an advice....people seems to no longer read23:03
EaglemanAny idea why this ( @reboot screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-Client-UDP openvpn /certificates/openvpn/client/udp/Server-Home.ovpn > /tmp/OpenVPN-Client-UDP 2>&1 ) is not executed on reboot?, There are no errors created in the /tmp dir and nothing different then normal in the syslog and authlog, the command is just executed. I did try adding cd before the screen command in crontab and i got the error23:03
Eaglemancan't cd to /certificates/openvpn/client/ucp/Server-Home.ovpn, Which user does cronjob run as since root does have enough permissions on the folder23:03
bray90820hatake do you mean where is linux installed23:03
hatakebray90820, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows23:04
bray90820hatake i don't have windows installed23:04
Goldwinghatake : he got his MBR overwritten by windows?23:05
dw-Goldwing: hmm yea landscape with a4 works.. it just doesnt like my envelope settings23:05
hatakebeforehand what you are doing23:05
bray90820goldwing  do not have windows at all23:05
hatakedamn23:05
hatakeso what grub error23:05
bray90820hatake i tried to install ubuntu on an empty drive and grub wouldn't install23:06
yagmaiGood evening!23:06
Goldwingbray90820 : did you CHECK the drive for errors??23:06
Goldwingbray90820 : i mean REAL errors, like bad sectors23:07
bray90820hatake when i try to install ubuntu from the live disc it gives me this error during install23:07
bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed23:07
bray90820i should do that23:07
bray90820but how would i check for error in ubuntu23:07
hatakebrady2600, before no linux on your hardisk23:08
hatakebray90820, , before no linux on your hardisk23:08
yagmaibray90820: with badblocks23:08
Goldwingbray90820 sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda23:08
bray90820running now23:09
bray90820this could be a wile23:09
EaglemanAny idea why this ( @reboot screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-Client-UDP openvpn /certificates/openvpn/client/udp/Server-Home.ovpn > /tmp/OpenVPN-Client-UDP 2>&1 ) is not executed on reboot?, There are no errors created in the /tmp dir and nothing different then normal in the syslog and authlog, the command is just executed. I did try adding cd before the screen command in crontab and i got the error23:10
Eaglemancan't cd to /certificates/openvpn/client/ucp/Server-Home.ovpn, Command works fine when i execute it23:10
GoldwingEagleman : i'm guessing permission problem23:11
DrGrovIs it easy to reinstall the nVidia drivers in Additional Drivers application? I am trying to figure out if the latest nVidia drivers is causing my random logouts and X crashing. Any ideas on how to get an older version installed in an easy way? I have had issues with getting the correct display resolution of 1920x1080 before but I got it in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf now and think it would work as well on an older nVidia driver. I really appreciate any he23:11
DrGrovAnd I apologize for asking the same thing almost again.23:12
dw-goldwing: the same size prints in libre.. but abiword does things a little differently it seems, since it doesnt have the margin bug that plagues me in libre... so i need it to work. :)23:14
EaglemanGoldwing, it tried to open a folder, that wont work ofcourse23:14
Eaglemanfolder=file23:15
Goldwingdw- i'm sorry, but i don't have any experience with libre or abiword (i only use server editions of ubuntu)23:16
dw-goldwing: ill have to figure out how they differ and go from there :/ thanks23:16
dw-goldwing: nice to have some support out there23:17
Goldwingbut i'm positive it's a defaults / margin problem with the ppd file23:17
Goldwingdw- yw :)23:17
GoldwingEagleman : if you can open the file, then it's most definetly a permission problem23:18
GoldwingEagleman : if you can't open it, then screen can't open it either (except when screen is run as root)23:18
Eaglemanthe entire cronjob is ran under the user root23:19
EaglemanThere should be no permission issue's23:19
GoldwingEagleman : ls -al /certificates/openvpn/client/ucp/Server-Home.ovpn23:20
GoldwingEagleman : ls -al /certificates/openvpn/client/ucp/Server-Home.ovpn as root23:21
Eagleman-r-------- 1 root root 992 Feb  2 00:18 /certificates/openvpn/client/udp/Server-Home.ovpn23:21
Eaglemanevery folder underneath has rx------- with user root23:22
Goldwingand openvpn? does that run as root?23:22
Eaglemancronjob does execute that23:22
ClientAliveif the perms of a directory are "messagebus users" <- what is users? A group? (but I don't see users in the list if I do a "groups"23:22
EaglemanSo yes23:22
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jribClientAlive: "users" is a group, yes.  Are you using ubuntu?23:23
ClientAlivejrib: 12.04 server with gnome 323:24
GoldwingEagleman : just for testing, do "chmod 444 /certificates/openvpn/client/ucp/Server-Home.ovpn as root23:24
jribClientAlive: ok, well "groups" only returns the groups your user is a member of, not all groups on the system23:24
Goldwingnow try the @reboot again23:24
ClientAliveso my eclipse program folder is "messagebus users" . I just installed CDT main features. I even restarted the entire computer when I didn't see C/C++ as a perspective to choose (the restart didn't change anything)23:25
tchaffeeGot a new laptop with Windows 8 already on it and want to install Ubuntu dual boot, but it's not working. I follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI and I get the EFI grub boot menu but then Ubuntu won't boot.  Any ideas?23:26
ClientAlivejrib: so what group should I be a member or in order to get to use eclipse?23:26
ClientAliveany idea?23:26
jribClientAlive: why did you install it that way?23:26
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ClientAlivethat's what people keep convincing me to do. The one thing I do know is I''m hell bent not to have a visble application folder in my home directory (just irritates me to even think of it).23:27
jribClientAlive: what people?23:27
ClientAlivethey tell me /opt   install in /opt23:27
jaequeryis it a good or bad idea to have varnish on the same server as haproxy?23:28
bray90820goldwing no errors23:28
ClientAlivewould it be fair to name names? Suffice it to say I don't think you advised me that. Anyhow. The ubuntu page on eclipse tells you to put it in your home dir. What!?23:28
EaglemanGoldwing, didnt help23:28
ClientAlive~/   is for data23:28
ClientAlivenot an app23:29
jribClientAlive: if you want the files to be owned by your user, it makes sense to put it your home and not in some system-wide location23:29
ClientAliveomg23:29
bray90820but grub won't install23:30
ClientAlivewhat if I chown -R the eclipse dir? Wouldn't that effectively do the same thing?23:30
bray90820executing grub-install /dev/sda failed23:30
usr13bray90820: sudo?23:30
EaglemanGoldwing, i was already afraid this was the issue:  replace openvpn with /usr/sbin/openvpn23:31
Eaglemanhelped23:31
DrGrovMy GPU is a nVidia GTS 250. I wonder if some older nVidia drivers could perhaps be the solution after all. Does anyone else experience this kind of strange crashes of X and random throws back to login screen once in a while?23:31
bray90820hatake got ny ideas23:31
jribClientAlive: I don't know what you mean by "same thing".  My opinion is that /opt and /usr/local are for software installed system-wide (use /usr/local for things with a unixy structure).  If you want to install eclipse as your user and have the files owned by your user so that he can manage (read: update) it, then install it to your home.  I think that's what the wiki advises too23:31
Goldwingbray90820 : hmm.. only thing i can think of is  disc errors23:31
Goldwingdid you do a check on the installer disk?23:31
usr13bray90820: sudo grub-install /dev/sda  ?23:32
jribClientAlive: the location is not /really/ all that important as long as you stay away from locations that you expect apt to deal with.  It's just convention23:32
Goldwinginstaller disk = DVD23:32
bray90820usr13 i did that23:32
usr13bray90820: Oh, ok.23:32
hatakebray90820, burn again your iso,or use usb for installed linux23:33
bray90820and well i tried burning it twice and i tried usb twice23:33
bray90820and i tried redownloading the iso23:33
DrGrovThis is one output I get related to Unity and my nVidia GTS 250. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1598941/23:34
ClientAlivejrib: /opt is not one of those places is it?23:34
Goldwingbray90820 : and did you install ubuntu before on this machine? or is this the first time?23:34
ClientAliveI thought /opt was a common  place for something like this23:34
jribClientAlive: right, /opt won't be touched by apt23:34
xubuntu315Hello, I am trying to create a bootable USB for Ubuntu and I am running into a couple difficulties.23:34
jribClientAlive: yes.23:34
jribClientAlive: I mentioned /opt earlier23:34
bray90820i am reinstalling 12.0423:35
xubuntu315I downloaded the archvied file from the Xubuntu website via uTorrent and I can't seem to find the iso file I am supposed to use?23:35
bray90820i have deff installed ubunutu on it before23:35
Goldwingbray90820 : hmmm23:35
jribClientAlive: if I were to install it, I would use /opt.  If I were to install it but needed the files to be owned by my user so that I could upgrade it as my user, I would use my home directory (and probably put in ~/.local/)23:36
Goldwingbray90820 : and the installer medium, did you check that for errors?23:36
bray90820could it be that i also have an lvm with 2 other drives on the same machine23:36
bray90820i will check that now23:36
ClientAlivejrib: that's where I put it again but this time only added basic cdt, and basic linux tools (for mouseover support) - that's all. Even though I restarted the entire computer, the c/c++ perspective is still not available. File > New > Other   shows no option for a c/c++ project. I've been trying to get this thing working for over 4 hrs and I havent' touched the project I'm supposed to be working on. I also can't even FATHOM working in a basic text editor23:37
ClientAlivefor this. I'd be there for days instead of hours.23:37
ClientAlivewhat do I do bro?23:37
bray90820what would be the partition of a cd23:37
ClientAlivejeeze I feel sick from all this23:37
jribClientAlive: did you just try following the wiki instructions?  I don't use eclipse myself23:37
Goldwingbray90820 : LVM on 2 other drives?? multiple boot?23:37
bray90820no23:37
bray90820i have 3 drives 2 2TB drives for my data abd a 40gb drive for the system23:38
ClientAlivejrib: wiki says maike big fat app folder (like a sore thumb), plop it down right there in the middle of all your nice data and install it there - grrr...23:38
jribClientAlive: ok, and when you do that, does it work fine?23:38
ClientAliveIt might23:39
bray90820it might be my partition scheme23:39
ClientAliveeff it23:39
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Goldwingbray90820 : ok, just a hunch.. can you disable the 2 2tb drives in the bios and then try again?23:39
bray90820i use swap /boor and /23:39
jribClientAlive: I'll help you move it afterwards23:39
bray90820i will do that23:39
bray90820brb23:39
ClientAlivejrib: thx man.23:39
ClientAliveok23:39
ClientAliveI'll try it23:39
ClientAliveit's gonna take me a little bit though23:39
jribClientAlive: sure23:40
Bray90820i dont think it is my drives because i have installed ubuntu many times with these drives enabled23:42
Goldwingbray90820 : also, did you notice this error in your pastebin?? "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary."23:43
tchaffeeAnyone with experience in installing Ubuntu to a laptop that uses UEFI? My install isn't booting :-(23:43
Bray90820that's been there for ages23:43
GoldwingBray90820 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/156994/partition-does-not-start-on-physical-sector-boundary23:43
Bray90820yes23:44
Bray90820but that is also another drive then my system drive23:44
Goldwingtrue23:45
Bray90820my system drive is /dev/sda23:45
GoldwingBray90820 : actually, i'm a bit baffled why grub won't install23:45
Bray90820i guess i'll redownload the iso and try again23:46
GoldwingBray90820 : if the installer medium has no errors, the harddisk has no errors, it should install23:46
Bray90820i installed ubuntu like a month ago in the exact same drive23:46
Goldwingonly thing that could ruin it, is bad memory, but that is verry unlikely23:47
dpurgertUEFI or some other crazy thing getting in the way?23:47
Goldwingdpurgert : don't think so, he installed ubuntu about a month ago without problems23:48
dpurgertah ... made /boot too small?23:48
dpurgert(yeah, I'm grasping at straws)23:48
Goldwingdpurgert : same here23:48
Goldwing:)23:49
Bray90820december 22 i installed it23:49
GoldwingBray90820 : how big did you make the /boot?23:49
Bray90820200MB like i always do23:49
Goldwingis enough..23:49
Bray90820swap is 2GB and the rest is for /23:50
Bray90820i really don't want to do this but if it doesn't work this next time should i remove the LVM and start over23:51
ubuntuaddictedanyone in here use kdenlive?23:51
GoldwingBray90820 : before you remove the LVM, try to physically disconnect the 2tb drives23:52
Goldwingthen do a reinstall23:52
Goldwingif that still doesn't work, then it's something else, and NOT the lvm23:52
Bray90820i really don't wanna remove the lvm because it will take 3 days to restore23:53
Goldwingthen just pull the SATA cables from the drives23:53
Bray90820yea i will try that23:53
Bray90820i'll try to install 1 more time first tho23:54
Goldwingok23:54
dpurgerteww -- good luck with that23:54
devonHello, how do I password protech a folder?23:59
Bray90820could it be that i used a dvd for the image and not a cd?23:59
GoldwingBray90820 : YES23:59

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