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heraclitisGood program for presenting network topography for xubuntu?01:04
paperboatsJust installed Xubuntu 12.10 on my MacBook 7,1. It just werks! :)01:06
heraclitisis there a pastebin for images? like screenshots?01:42
Unit193http://imagebin.org/?page=add01:44
heraclitisunit193: thanks01:45
Unit193Sure thing.01:46
theforsakenhow do i get firefox to play you tube videos04:12
theforsaken?04:13
Unit193Install flash, and/or go to http://youtube.com/html5 and hit join.04:13
theforsakeni got flash installed and its not working04:14
theforsakenjust a black box04:14
holsteintheforsaken: did you restart the browser after installing flash?04:16
theforsakenyes04:16
holsteintheforsaken: how did you install flash?04:17
theforsakenwith the software center04:17
Unit193What package, and you may want to disable hardware accel. in it.04:17
theforsakenShockwave Flash 11.2 r20204:18
theforsakenwhere the video would be theres a black box that flashes on and off04:22
theforsakenno sound or video04:22
theforsakenno missing plugin popup04:22
holsteintheforsaken: i would test... i sometimes install chrome.. i sometimes try different graphics drivers04:23
holsteintheforsaken: you *have* the plugin.. so there shouldnt be a popup04:23
holsteintheforsaken: do you have compositing?04:23
theforsakenwtf is that? (I'm a noob linux user)04:24
holsteintheforsaken: then, you likely didnt add it in... what graphics hardware are you using? driver?04:25
theforsaken32MB DDR SDRAM Integrated ProSavageDDR Graphics04:27
theforsakenold pc04:28
holsteintheforsaken: i would try with chrome... test it since they ship their own flash in the 32bit04:28
holsteintheforsaken: i would have realistic expectations of that hardware04:29
holsteintheforsaken: you wont get better performance from flash in linux.. it will likely be worse04:29
theforsakenthe original hadrive fryed with xp on it so im useing a 6GB harddrive with xubuntu tho i did upgrade the ram from 256MB to 1.3 GB04:31
Cheri703this is what I always used for firefox before I switched to chrome: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flash-aid/04:31
theforsakendont care about video quallity just need it working04:31
holsteintheforsaken: also, the html5 suggestion04:31
holsteini dont think its a matter of getting flash to work.. it *is* working.. and thats how it works on that hardware04:32
holsteini would try the chrome browser as a test.. you'll get a newer version, and you can decide how you would like to proceed04:32
theforsakeni had it working on ubuntu thill that 120 GB hardrive gave out04:33
theforsakentill*04:33
holsteintheforsaken: what version?04:33
Cheri703theforsaken: try that add-on and go from there04:33
holsteintheforsaken: what browers? what version of flash?04:33
Cheri703it'll install the proper version and adjust settings automatically04:33
holsteintheforsaken: xubuntu *is* ubuntu04:33
holsteintheforsaken: if you install the same version, maybe it was 10.04, and the older packages, maybe it'll just work04:33
theforsakenwas ubuntu11.04 same flash vertion but i dont recall firefox's vertion04:34
holsteintheforsaken: i doubt it was the same version of flash04:34
theforsakeni had to reinstall it like 12 times04:34
theforsakento get it to work befor04:34
holsteintheforsaken: i would move forward.. and consdier that flash is outpacing your hardware04:35
holsteinconsider*04:35
holsteini would try chrome, since that is the only way you will easily get a recent version of flash running04:35
holsteinyou dont have to like it, or ever use it again... https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/04:36
holsteinyou will just learn that a more recent version of flash will work... or not04:36
theforsakeninstalling it now04:36
holsteinyou might be albe to force the vesa driver in a custom xorg.conf .. thought that might actually make it worse04:37
theforsakenmite blow the card lol04:38
holsteinnah.. you wont damage the hardware with a vesa driver04:38
holsteini would test with live CD's til i got something working, then i would install04:39
holsteini would try knoppix, and copy the xorg.conf so i could edit the driver portion and test the vesa driver easily04:40
holsteini would try the supported versions of ubuntu (or xubuntu or whatever)04:40
theforsaken"could not load shockwave flash"04:41
theforsakenwith chrom04:41
theforsakeni got xubuntu 12.0404:41
theforsakentho it seams ubuntu 11.04 worked better04:42
theforsakengot a really small hardrive now tho04:42
holsteintheforsaken: sure.. i wouldnt expect anything to support that hardware better04:42
holsteintheforsaken: imagine you are trying to install windows804:43
theforsakenlol this pc would die04:43
holsteintheforsaken: the size of the hard drie should effect the performance, unless it is *really* small04:44
theforsaken6GB04:44
theforsakenwell6.204:44
holsteinthats tight...04:44
holsteintheforsaken: i can literally trip over better hardware on the way to the trash bin.. you might want to just move on if you can04:44
theforsakenfreand of mine from my linux class gave it to me i have no idear where he found it04:45
holsteintheforsaken: you have any USB sticks?04:45
holsteintheforsaken: you can always run a headless rig04:45
theforsakenyeah but i cant boot from them04:45
theforsakenthe bios dosent suport it04:45
holsteintheforsaken: you can boot them with plop04:45
holsteinhttp://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html04:46
theforsakenthe pc came with a 120 GB but it bit the dust04:46
holsteinplop lets you boot USB drives from machines like that where you think you cant because of the bios04:46
holsteintheforsaken: run a live CD on it.. just run puppy, and dont have a disk04:47
holsteinhttp://www.turnkeylinux.org/ these run great live as well04:47
holsteinand take low resources04:47
theforsakeni tryed to run puppy but the files would not burn to a cd properly on there web site they said something about the file names being to big for windows04:48
holsteintheforsaken: you can take that up in a puppy support forum.. im just letting you know what i would do with that hardware, and installing any ubuntu version with a desktop is pretty far down the list04:49
theforsakenthey said dont use windows04:49
holsteintheforsaken: lubuntu is nice and light04:50
theforsakenlighter than Xubuntu?04:50
holsteintheforsaken: arguably quite a bit04:50
holsteintheforsaken: the "L" is from LXDE, which literally is the word "light"04:51
theforsakenah04:51
holsteinhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ i would get the alternate, though it might be nice to have the live CD and just test04:51
theforsakenthink i download it and give it a shot04:52
theforsakenthanks04:52
holsteinyou'll be trying a lot of things with that hardware.. nothing will "just work"04:52
theforsakenhaha your probuly right i dont need it fancy tho just need to pratise the linux shell commandline and gui interface for my linux class in college04:54
holsteintheforsaken: you dont need a GUI to practice commandline04:54
holsteintheforsaken: it'll run ubuntuserver great as well04:54
theforsakennaw but i got to learn the file sys as well04:54
holsteintheforsaken: the filesystem requires no GUI04:55
theforsakenand seeing the files helps a lot04:55
theforsakengui is 20% of the test04:55
holsteintheforsaken: look at it in a filemanager in the terminal04:55
holsteintheforsaken: what GUI?04:55
holsteintheforsaken: XFCE?04:55
theforsakena bit of all but mostly just being familyer with it enuff to use it04:56
holsteintheforsaken: i dont follow04:56
theforsakenthe class covers the linux+ exam04:56
holsteintheforsaken: there is nothing about the "gui" that will get you more or less familiar with stuff04:56
holsteinunless, you have a specific GUI04:56
holsteinif the test is on gnome2, you will need to run gnome204:57
holsteinyou would need to know the specific GUI04:57
theforsakenmostly they have been talking about xsever or xwindows04:57
holsteinotherwise, its just general GUI stuff... click on this X, minimize, maximise.. .stuff you already know04:57
holsteintheforsaken: x server has very little to do with any of these GUI's04:58
holsteintheforsaken: install what you like, but you dont *need* x for what you are doing04:58
holstein!info mc04:58
ubottumc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.3-9 (quantal), package size 422 kB, installed size 1312 kB04:58
holsteintheforsaken: that filemanager is a GUI that runs in the terminal.. without a need for x04:59
holsteintheforsaken: as a side note, you will likely not be required to have flash running for the test05:05
theforsakeni know that but its the only thing i coulent get working05:06
theforsakenit is driveing me crazy05:06
holsteintheforsaken: yeah?.. i assure you flash is working.. and thats how it works on that hardware05:07
theforsakenit worked fine on xp05:08
theforsakenim probably overlooking something simple that would be done instantly by a person use to linux05:10
heraclitisis the package "alien" stable and safe for use in xubuntu?05:12
holsteintheforsaken: sure, you *cant* compare the experience from flash in xp to flash in xubuntu 12.1005:13
holsteintheforsaken: you are overlooking that flash is not well supported in linux in the first place and you have an older grahpics card05:13
holsteintheforsaken: xp is a good fit for that machine, since it was released about that time... if you were to load windows 7 or 8 and try running flash, you might have a different experience05:14
holsteintheforsaken: the big difference is that you cant compare due to the difference in support05:15
holsteinheraclitis: what are you trying to do?05:15
holstein!info alien05:15
ubottualien (source: alien): convert and install rpm and other packages. In component main, is optional. Version 8.88 (quantal), package size 56 kB, installed size 209 kB05:15
holsteini usually look for a ppa, then a .deb, then i build05:15
heraclitisI'm trying to install a .rpm, it's not available in .deb for binary format.05:15
heraclitisIt's a driver from hp, they only offer it in .rpm.05:15
holsteinheraclitis: if you want to install the .rpm, and that is the only form you have the information in, then you have to05:16
nicholosophyyay for hp sucking balls05:16
heraclitisnicholosophy: yes, they do suck balls.05:16
holsteinwill it be stable? id say thats simil05:16
holsteinsimilar to wondering if something will run in wine05:17
holsteinalso, lets try and keep the language clean05:17
holsteinheraclitis: let me put it this way, the stability of the alien pacakge will likely not be the issue.. it will be more about the ability to use that rpm or not05:18
holsteini cant imagine what driver you would need from hp that is not available some other way05:18
heraclitisYes, could it cause the operating system to crash? I ask because I already installed it, and now my machine will not boot. I had also done some updates in the same session, and installed aircrack-ng (which traditionally has been stable). And I will refrain from poor language.05:19
heraclitisI don't know what caused it, but it seems the most likely cause would be that driver... I just feel it.05:19
holsteinheraclitis: could... but again, thats not likely anything to do with alien05:20
holsteinheraclitis: i would try and purge it and get the system stable,and seek support another way05:20
heraclitisholstein: my internet went down, so if you responded, I did not receive it.05:29
holsteinheraclitis: i had said to purge and seek more native support after testing05:30
holsteinheraclitis: try as another user... boot an earlier kernel... etc..05:30
heraclitisMy internet keeps going down. I don't know how long I'll be stable this time.05:43
xubuntu813Hi, is anybody able to help me with a wifi problem I encountered with xubuntu?06:38
heraclitisI may be able to.06:51
MoL0ToVi to all07:18
MoL0ToVsomeone can explain to me how to set dual screens on xubuntu?07:18
ajonmorning08:32
ajoncould anyone tell me how to find out what device 00:a is?08:33
ajonits failing to suspend, waking my laptop up instantly08:33
Unit193lspci | grep 00:a08:34
Unit193Err, that is, type that in a terminal.08:34
bullgard4MoL0ToV: 'man xrandr'08:37
Unit193Or just use arandr. :P08:44
koegsarandr++08:46
koegsit is the easiest08:46
toraxoh, there is arandr++?08:52
toraxor is it just arandr?08:53
koegstorax: it was just an "ack" for arandr :)08:54
toraxok =)08:55
toraxlove it how you can make script from arandr and bind it to a key08:56
koegsthat is exactly how i use it :)08:56
toraxcause there are like 3 situations when i use external display, I can make script for every case :)09:00
ajonwhen trying to suspend dmesg tells me tpm_tis 00:0a: tpm_transmit: tpm_send: error -6209:11
ajonlegacy_suspend(): pnp_bus_suspend+0x0/0x80 returns -6209:12
MoL0ToVbullgard4> MoL0ToV: 'man xrandr'09:14
MoL0ToValready done... don't work09:14
koegsMoL0ToV: did you try arandr?09:16
MoL0ToV$ xrandr --auto --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of VGA-009:18
MoL0ToVxrandr: cannot find crtc for output DVI-009:18
MoL0ToV$ xrandr --auto --output VGA-0 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of DVI-009:18
MoL0ToVxrandr: cannot find crtc for output VGA-009:18
MoL0ToVwhat is crtc?09:18
koegsMoL0ToV: could you please provide the output of "xrandr --query"?09:24
koegs!paste09:25
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:25
jayjayHey, oh please say someone is awake and can help me get my graphics card working (nvidia 8400M GT).09:55
jayjaywhen i install the driver (apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-setting) it works on firsts reboot.. i save nvidia-settings xorg.config reboot. and back to old low res09:56
jayjayhttp://pastebin.com/3kfAaBEy Xorg.0.log09:59
jayjayif you need any other info pls tell me10:00
jayjaythis is the log file from when the driver loaded: http://pastebin.com/jAE9cw3z Xorg.0.log10:04
jayjayhmm.. now it says my gfx isnt supported by this driver *rage10:07
MoL0ToVkoegs, http://www.pastebin.ca/230957610:09
jayjayreboot.. brb i hope10:15
koegsMoL0ToV: did you try arandr and did it show something that does make sense?10:21
jayjayim back, with the 310 drivers.. its loaded on first reboot - but im afraid that when i reboot - they wont load again10:25
jayjayany and all hints are welcome10:25
jayjayshould i even bother with xorg.conf if its working without one now?10:26
jayjaytrial and error ftw10:31
MoL0ToVkoegs, don,t work10:38
koegsMoL0ToV: please provide some error messages while using arandr, otherwise i cant help10:40
MoL0ToVkoegs, where i can find?10:43
MoL0ToVon the shell don't print anything10:43
MoL0ToVxrandr: cannot find crtc for output VGA-010:43
MoL0ToVthis is the error..10:43
MoL0ToVkoegs, some suggestions?11:52
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dydzEz2_damnit i put 11.04 into a usb and when i ask to try the OS it just goes to a blank screen13:50
dydzEz2_12.0413:51
dydzEz2_12.10 came corrupt13:51
dydzEz2_imma try 12.10 on unetbootin instead of the other one13:51
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dydzEz2_damnit13:56
dydzEz2_theres some sort of problem with the display dri9ver13:56
dydzEz2_or something13:56
kadenceevenin' all13:58
kadenceim trying to edit /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness13:58
kadencei'm getting permission denied errors, even with sudo13:58
kadenceproblem persists when trying to edit as root13:59
dydzEz2_god damnit why wont it boot14:00
dydzEz2_man someone here had an x1 carbon and said it worked right away14:04
xubuntu112hi, xubuntu, can he work fine in hp mini 2x866 and 1gb ram, with intel grafics?14:10
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baizonxubuntu112: yes :)14:18
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dydzEz2_why is one laptop showing like +5 more options in my grub menu and the laptop that is showing a blank screen after i pick any option has like only 3 options to choose from (install, try xubuntu, and something else)14:22
dydzEz2_the other laptop had like +5 more options14:22
dydzEz2_same usb stick14:22
Bon-changuys, can i use a icon theme downloaded from gnome-look and use it into xfce?14:28
tlanhello16:16
tlancannot save my wall paper in xubuntu. 13.0416:22
dydzEz2_ fresh copy of xubuntu or ubuntu, do i have to install codecs manually to play mp3s and avi's16:22
Cheri703dydzEz2_: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras16:23
dydzEz2_im just wondering if thats the norm16:23
dydzEz2_because i just tried xubuntu live cd and mp3's wont work16:23
Cheri703https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats16:24
dydzEz2_thx'16:24
holsteintlan: i would try #ubuntu+116:26
tlanwhat is that16:29
tlanxubuntu 13.04 awesome16:29
holsteintlan: 13.04 s not released yet, so its not supported here. you can try /join #ubuntu+1 for support16:31
dreherhi, can someone help me to get rid of bug 1035963?18:38
ubottubug 980130 in dict-st (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1035963 package myspell-st 20070206-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98013018:38
xubuntu818help... install skype on xubuntu 12.10 64bit18:55
well_laid_lawn!skype | xubuntu81818:59
ubottuxubuntu818: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga18:59
xubuntu131I am new to Linux/Xubuntu. I tried to use Skype, but I noticed that webcam and microphone are not working. Please guide me how to fix them. Thanks in advance20:46
xubuntu916Hello20:53
xubuntu916I am trying to upgrade ubuntu 12.04.1 to xubuntu 12.10, via a removable drive, but the installer seems to be stuck in a loop20:54
xubuntu916Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.451961] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: >DVI-I-2: EDID block 0 invalid. Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.451967] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for DVI-I-2 Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.476900] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on output C20:54
xubuntu916is the error message I get every time.20:55
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xubuntu315Hello I have a question on creating a bootable USB23:33
xubuntu315Where do I find the iso file I extracted from the archive?23:37
knomeare you sure the "archive" you are refrerring to is not the iso file itself?23:39
xubuntu315Ahh fail, due to habit I saw the Winrar icon and extracted. It indeed is the iso file! Thank you haha23:39
knomenp23:40
xubuntu315I have never ran a Linux machine before, so I am going to test Xubuntu before I officially install it. Any suggestions before I try it out?23:42
knomexubuntu315, when you run the live cd, make sure your hardware works as expected23:46
BecauseIcanHi guys nice channel23:59

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