[01:04] <heraclitis> Good program for presenting network topography for xubuntu?
[01:06] <paperboats> Just installed Xubuntu 12.10 on my MacBook 7,1. It just werks! :)
[01:42] <heraclitis> is there a pastebin for images? like screenshots?
[01:44] <Unit193> http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[01:45] <heraclitis> unit193: thanks
[01:46] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[04:12] <theforsaken> how do i get firefox to play you tube videos
[04:13] <theforsaken> ?
[04:13] <Unit193> Install flash, and/or go to http://youtube.com/html5 and hit join.
[04:14] <theforsaken> i got flash installed and its not working
[04:14] <theforsaken> just a black box
[04:16] <holstein> theforsaken: did you restart the browser after installing flash?
[04:16] <theforsaken> yes
[04:17] <holstein> theforsaken: how did you install flash?
[04:17] <theforsaken> with the software center
[04:17] <Unit193> What package, and you may want to disable hardware accel. in it.
[04:18] <theforsaken> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[04:22] <theforsaken> where the video would be theres a black box that flashes on and off
[04:22] <theforsaken> no sound or video
[04:22] <theforsaken> no missing plugin popup
[04:23] <holstein> theforsaken: i would test... i sometimes install chrome.. i sometimes try different graphics drivers
[04:23] <holstein> theforsaken: you *have* the plugin.. so there shouldnt be a popup
[04:23] <holstein> theforsaken: do you have compositing?
[04:24] <theforsaken> wtf is that? (I'm a noob linux user)
[04:25] <holstein> theforsaken: then, you likely didnt add it in... what graphics hardware are you using? driver?
[04:27] <theforsaken> 32MB DDR SDRAM Integrated ProSavageDDR Graphics
[04:28] <theforsaken> old pc
[04:28] <holstein> theforsaken: i would try with chrome... test it since they ship their own flash in the 32bit
[04:29] <holstein> theforsaken: i would have realistic expectations of that hardware
[04:29] <holstein> theforsaken: you wont get better performance from flash in linux.. it will likely be worse
[04:31] <theforsaken> the original hadrive fryed with xp on it so im useing a 6GB harddrive with xubuntu tho i did upgrade the ram from 256MB to 1.3 GB
[04:31] <Cheri703> this is what I always used for firefox before I switched to chrome: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[04:31] <theforsaken> dont care about video quallity just need it working
[04:31] <holstein> theforsaken: also, the html5 suggestion
[04:32] <holstein> i dont think its a matter of getting flash to work.. it *is* working.. and thats how it works on that hardware
[04:32] <holstein> i would try the chrome browser as a test.. you'll get a newer version, and you can decide how you would like to proceed
[04:33] <theforsaken> i had it working on ubuntu thill that 120 GB hardrive gave out
[04:33] <theforsaken> till*
[04:33] <holstein> theforsaken: what version?
[04:33] <Cheri703> theforsaken: try that add-on and go from there
[04:33] <holstein> theforsaken: what browers? what version of flash?
[04:33] <Cheri703> it'll install the proper version and adjust settings automatically
[04:33] <holstein> theforsaken: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[04:33] <holstein> theforsaken: if you install the same version, maybe it was 10.04, and the older packages, maybe it'll just work
[04:34] <theforsaken> was ubuntu11.04 same flash vertion but i dont recall firefox's vertion
[04:34] <holstein> theforsaken: i doubt it was the same version of flash
[04:34] <theforsaken> i had to reinstall it like 12 times
[04:34] <theforsaken> to get it to work befor
[04:35] <holstein> theforsaken: i would move forward.. and consdier that flash is outpacing your hardware
[04:35] <holstein> consider*
[04:35] <holstein> i would try chrome, since that is the only way you will easily get a recent version of flash running
[04:36] <holstein> you dont have to like it, or ever use it again... https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[04:36] <holstein> you will just learn that a more recent version of flash will work... or not
[04:36] <theforsaken> installing it now
[04:37] <holstein> you might be albe to force the vesa driver in a custom xorg.conf .. thought that might actually make it worse
[04:38] <theforsaken> mite blow the card lol
[04:38] <holstein> nah.. you wont damage the hardware with a vesa driver
[04:39] <holstein> i would test with live CD's til i got something working, then i would install
[04:40] <holstein> i would try knoppix, and copy the xorg.conf so i could edit the driver portion and test the vesa driver easily
[04:40] <holstein> i would try the supported versions of ubuntu (or xubuntu or whatever)
[04:41] <theforsaken> "could not load shockwave flash"
[04:41] <theforsaken> with chrom
[04:41] <theforsaken> i got xubuntu 12.04
[04:42] <theforsaken> tho it seams ubuntu 11.04 worked better
[04:42] <theforsaken> got a really small hardrive now tho
[04:42] <holstein> theforsaken: sure.. i wouldnt expect anything to support that hardware better
[04:43] <holstein> theforsaken: imagine you are trying to install windows8
[04:43] <theforsaken> lol this pc would die
[04:44] <holstein> theforsaken: the size of the hard drie should effect the performance, unless it is *really* small
[04:44] <theforsaken> 6GB
[04:44] <theforsaken> well6.2
[04:44] <holstein> thats tight...
[04:44] <holstein> theforsaken: i can literally trip over better hardware on the way to the trash bin.. you might want to just move on if you can
[04:45] <theforsaken> freand of mine from my linux class gave it to me i have no idear where he found it
[04:45] <holstein> theforsaken: you have any USB sticks?
[04:45] <holstein> theforsaken: you can always run a headless rig
[04:45] <theforsaken> yeah but i cant boot from them
[04:45] <theforsaken> the bios dosent suport it
[04:45] <holstein> theforsaken: you can boot them with plop
[04:46] <holstein> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[04:46] <theforsaken> the pc came with a 120 GB but it bit the dust
[04:46] <holstein> plop lets you boot USB drives from machines like that where you think you cant because of the bios
[04:47] <holstein> theforsaken: run a live CD on it.. just run puppy, and dont have a disk
[04:47] <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ these run great live as well
[04:47] <holstein> and take low resources
[04:48] <theforsaken> i tryed to run puppy but the files would not burn to a cd properly on there web site they said something about the file names being to big for windows
[04:49] <holstein> theforsaken: you can take that up in a puppy support forum.. im just letting you know what i would do with that hardware, and installing any ubuntu version with a desktop is pretty far down the list
[04:49] <theforsaken> they said dont use windows
[04:50] <holstein> theforsaken: lubuntu is nice and light
[04:50] <theforsaken> lighter than Xubuntu?
[04:50] <holstein> theforsaken: arguably quite a bit
[04:51] <holstein> theforsaken: the "L" is from LXDE, which literally is the word "light"
[04:51] <theforsaken> ah
[04:51] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ i would get the alternate, though it might be nice to have the live CD and just test
[04:52] <theforsaken> think i download it and give it a shot
[04:52] <theforsaken> thanks
[04:52] <holstein> you'll be trying a lot of things with that hardware.. nothing will "just work"
[04:54] <theforsaken> haha your probuly right i dont need it fancy tho just need to pratise the linux shell commandline and gui interface for my linux class in college
[04:54] <holstein> theforsaken: you dont need a GUI to practice commandline
[04:54] <holstein> theforsaken: it'll run ubuntuserver great as well
[04:54] <theforsaken> naw but i got to learn the file sys as well
[04:55] <holstein> theforsaken: the filesystem requires no GUI
[04:55] <theforsaken> and seeing the files helps a lot
[04:55] <theforsaken> gui is 20% of the test
[04:55] <holstein> theforsaken: look at it in a filemanager in the terminal
[04:55] <holstein> theforsaken: what GUI?
[04:55] <holstein> theforsaken: XFCE?
[04:56] <theforsaken> a bit of all but mostly just being familyer with it enuff to use it
[04:56] <holstein> theforsaken: i dont follow
[04:56] <theforsaken> the class covers the linux+ exam
[04:56] <holstein> theforsaken: there is nothing about the "gui" that will get you more or less familiar with stuff
[04:56] <holstein> unless, you have a specific GUI
[04:57] <holstein> if the test is on gnome2, you will need to run gnome2
[04:57] <holstein> you would need to know the specific GUI
[04:57] <theforsaken> mostly they have been talking about xsever or xwindows
[04:57] <holstein> otherwise, its just general GUI stuff... click on this X, minimize, maximise.. .stuff you already know
[04:58] <holstein> theforsaken: x server has very little to do with any of these GUI's
[04:58] <holstein> theforsaken: install what you like, but you dont *need* x for what you are doing
[04:58] <holstein> !info mc
[04:59] <holstein> theforsaken: that filemanager is a GUI that runs in the terminal.. without a need for x
[05:05] <holstein> theforsaken: as a side note, you will likely not be required to have flash running for the test
[05:06] <theforsaken> i know that but its the only thing i coulent get working
[05:06] <theforsaken> it is driveing me crazy
[05:07] <holstein> theforsaken: yeah?.. i assure you flash is working.. and thats how it works on that hardware
[05:08] <theforsaken> it worked fine on xp
[05:10] <theforsaken> im probably overlooking something simple that would be done instantly by a person use to linux
[05:12] <heraclitis> is the package "alien" stable and safe for use in xubuntu?
[05:13] <holstein> theforsaken: sure, you *cant* compare the experience from flash in xp to flash in xubuntu 12.10
[05:13] <holstein> theforsaken: you are overlooking that flash is not well supported in linux in the first place and you have an older grahpics card
[05:14] <holstein> theforsaken: xp is a good fit for that machine, since it was released about that time... if you were to load windows 7 or 8 and try running flash, you might have a different experience
[05:15] <holstein> theforsaken: the big difference is that you cant compare due to the difference in support
[05:15] <holstein> heraclitis: what are you trying to do?
[05:15] <holstein> !info alien
[05:15] <holstein> i usually look for a ppa, then a .deb, then i build
[05:15] <heraclitis> I'm trying to install a .rpm, it's not available in .deb for binary format.
[05:15] <heraclitis> It's a driver from hp, they only offer it in .rpm.
[05:16] <holstein> heraclitis: if you want to install the .rpm, and that is the only form you have the information in, then you have to
[05:16] <nicholosophy> yay for hp sucking balls
[05:16] <heraclitis> nicholosophy: yes, they do suck balls.
[05:16] <holstein> will it be stable? id say thats simil
[05:17] <holstein> similar to wondering if something will run in wine
[05:17] <holstein> also, lets try and keep the language clean
[05:18] <holstein> heraclitis: let me put it this way, the stability of the alien pacakge will likely not be the issue.. it will be more about the ability to use that rpm or not
[05:18] <holstein> i cant imagine what driver you would need from hp that is not available some other way
[05:19] <heraclitis> Yes, could it cause the operating system to crash? I ask because I already installed it, and now my machine will not boot. I had also done some updates in the same session, and installed aircrack-ng (which traditionally has been stable). And I will refrain from poor language.
[05:19] <heraclitis> I don't know what caused it, but it seems the most likely cause would be that driver... I just feel it.
[05:20] <holstein> heraclitis: could... but again, thats not likely anything to do with alien
[05:20] <holstein> heraclitis: i would try and purge it and get the system stable,and seek support another way
[05:29] <heraclitis> holstein: my internet went down, so if you responded, I did not receive it.
[05:30] <holstein> heraclitis: i had said to purge and seek more native support after testing
[05:30] <holstein> heraclitis: try as another user... boot an earlier kernel... etc..
[05:43] <heraclitis> My internet keeps going down. I don't know how long I'll be stable this time.
[06:38] <xubuntu813> Hi, is anybody able to help me with a wifi problem I encountered with xubuntu?
[06:51] <heraclitis> I may be able to.
[07:18] <MoL0ToV> i to all
[07:18] <MoL0ToV> someone can explain to me how to set dual screens on xubuntu?
[08:32] <ajon> morning
[08:33] <ajon> could anyone tell me how to find out what device 00:a is?
[08:33] <ajon> its failing to suspend, waking my laptop up instantly
[08:34] <Unit193> lspci | grep 00:a
[08:34] <Unit193> Err, that is, type that in a terminal.
[08:37] <bullgard4> MoL0ToV: 'man xrandr'
[08:44] <Unit193> Or just use arandr. :P
[08:46] <koegs> arandr++
[08:46] <koegs> it is the easiest
[08:52] <torax> oh, there is arandr++?
[08:53] <torax> or is it just arandr?
[08:54] <koegs> torax: it was just an "ack" for arandr :)
[08:55] <torax> ok =)
[08:56] <torax> love it how you can make script from arandr and bind it to a key
[08:56] <koegs> that is exactly how i use it :)
[09:00] <torax> cause there are like 3 situations when i use external display, I can make script for every case :)
[09:11] <ajon> when trying to suspend dmesg tells me tpm_tis 00:0a: tpm_transmit: tpm_send: error -62
[09:12] <ajon> legacy_suspend(): pnp_bus_suspend+0x0/0x80 returns -62
[09:14] <MoL0ToV> bullgard4> MoL0ToV: 'man xrandr'
[09:14] <MoL0ToV> already done... don't work
[09:16] <koegs> MoL0ToV: did you try arandr?
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> $ xrandr --auto --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of VGA-0
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> xrandr: cannot find crtc for output DVI-0
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> $ xrandr --auto --output VGA-0 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of DVI-0
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> xrandr: cannot find crtc for output VGA-0
[09:18] <MoL0ToV> what is crtc?
[09:24] <koegs> MoL0ToV: could you please provide the output of "xrandr --query"?
[09:25] <koegs> !paste
[09:55] <jayjay> Hey, oh please say someone is awake and can help me get my graphics card working (nvidia 8400M GT).
[09:56] <jayjay> when i install the driver (apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-setting) it works on firsts reboot.. i save nvidia-settings xorg.config reboot. and back to old low res
[09:59] <jayjay> http://pastebin.com/3kfAaBEy Xorg.0.log
[10:00] <jayjay> if you need any other info pls tell me
[10:04] <jayjay> this is the log file from when the driver loaded: http://pastebin.com/jAE9cw3z Xorg.0.log
[10:07] <jayjay> hmm.. now it says my gfx isnt supported by this driver *rage
[10:09] <MoL0ToV> koegs, http://www.pastebin.ca/2309576
[10:15] <jayjay> reboot.. brb i hope
[10:21] <koegs> MoL0ToV: did you try arandr and did it show something that does make sense?
[10:25] <jayjay> im back, with the 310 drivers.. its loaded on first reboot - but im afraid that when i reboot - they wont load again
[10:25] <jayjay> any and all hints are welcome
[10:26] <jayjay> should i even bother with xorg.conf if its working without one now?
[10:31] <jayjay> trial and error ftw
[10:38] <MoL0ToV> koegs, don,t work
[10:40] <koegs> MoL0ToV: please provide some error messages while using arandr, otherwise i cant help
[10:43] <MoL0ToV> koegs, where i can find?
[10:43] <MoL0ToV> on the shell don't print anything
[10:43] <MoL0ToV> xrandr: cannot find crtc for output VGA-0
[10:43] <MoL0ToV> this is the error..
[11:52] <MoL0ToV> koegs, some suggestions?
[13:50] <dydzEz2_> damnit i put 11.04 into a usb and when i ask to try the OS it just goes to a blank screen
[13:51] <dydzEz2_> 12.04
[13:51] <dydzEz2_> 12.10 came corrupt
[13:51] <dydzEz2_> imma try 12.10 on unetbootin instead of the other one
[13:56] <dydzEz2_> damnit
[13:56] <dydzEz2_> theres some sort of problem with the display dri9ver
[13:56] <dydzEz2_> or something
[13:58] <kadence> evenin' all
[13:58] <kadence> im trying to edit /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:58] <kadence> i'm getting permission denied errors, even with sudo
[13:59] <kadence> problem persists when trying to edit as root
[14:00] <dydzEz2_> god damnit why wont it boot
[14:04] <dydzEz2_> man someone here had an x1 carbon and said it worked right away
[14:10] <xubuntu112> hi, xubuntu, can he work fine in hp mini 2x866 and 1gb ram, with intel grafics?
[14:18] <baizon> xubuntu112: yes :)
[14:22] <dydzEz2_> why is one laptop showing like +5 more options in my grub menu and the laptop that is showing a blank screen after i pick any option has like only 3 options to choose from (install, try xubuntu, and something else)
[14:22] <dydzEz2_> the other laptop had like +5 more options
[14:22] <dydzEz2_> same usb stick
[14:28] <Bon-chan> guys, can i use a icon theme downloaded from gnome-look and use it into xfce?
[16:16] <tlan> hello
[16:22] <tlan> cannot save my wall paper in xubuntu. 13.04
[16:22] <dydzEz2_>  fresh copy of xubuntu or ubuntu, do i have to install codecs manually to play mp3s and avi's
[16:23] <Cheri703> dydzEz2_: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <dydzEz2_> im just wondering if thats the norm
[16:23] <dydzEz2_> because i just tried xubuntu live cd and mp3's wont work
[16:24] <Cheri703> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:24] <dydzEz2_> thx'
[16:26] <holstein> tlan: i would try #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <tlan> what is that
[16:29] <tlan> xubuntu 13.04 awesome
[16:31] <holstein> tlan: 13.04 s not released yet, so its not supported here. you can try /join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:38] <dreher> hi, can someone help me to get rid of bug 1035963?
[18:55] <xubuntu818> help... install skype on xubuntu 12.10 64bit
[18:59] <well_laid_lawn> !skype | xubuntu818
[20:46] <xubuntu131> I am new to Linux/Xubuntu. I tried to use Skype, but I noticed that webcam and microphone are not working. Please guide me how to fix them. Thanks in advance
[20:53] <xubuntu916> Hello
[20:54] <xubuntu916> I am trying to upgrade ubuntu 12.04.1 to xubuntu 12.10, via a removable drive, but the installer seems to be stuck in a loop
[20:54] <xubuntu916> Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.451961] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: >DVI-I-2: EDID block 0 invalid. Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.451967] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for DVI-I-2 Feb  1 20:54:21 xubuntu kernel: [ 9459.476900] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on output C
[20:55] <xubuntu916> is the error message I get every time.
[23:33] <xubuntu315> Hello I have a question on creating a bootable USB
[23:37] <xubuntu315> Where do I find the iso file I extracted from the archive?
[23:39] <knome> are you sure the "archive" you are refrerring to is not the iso file itself?
[23:39] <xubuntu315> Ahh fail, due to habit I saw the Winrar icon and extracted. It indeed is the iso file! Thank you haha
[23:40] <knome> np
[23:42] <xubuntu315> I have never ran a Linux machine before, so I am going to test Xubuntu before I officially install it. Any suggestions before I try it out?
[23:46] <knome> xubuntu315, when you run the live cd, make sure your hardware works as expected
[23:59] <BecauseIcan> Hi guys nice channel