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shadeslayerhmm04:39
shadeslayeryofel_: it's weird, the patch failed to apply .... so debuild didn't generate the source.changes04:40
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BluesKajHowdy all11:38
yofel!testers | 4.10.0 done in ninjas for 12.04-13.04, please smoketest12:48
ubottu4.10.0 done in ninjas for 12.04-13.04, please smoketest: Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan12:48
Tm_Tyofel: perfect (:12:54
shadeslayerif you're on precise, please also verify bug 109322012:55
ubottubug 1093220 in transmission (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Fix transmission-qt to open magnet links from a browser" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109322012:55
BluesKajyofel, got a url for 4.2013:00
BluesKajerr 4.1013:00
BluesKaji can never find new offerings in ninjas 13:02
Peace-Riddell: bug :D  scriptengine-python installed but widget that require python say that i have not :d13:18
yofelPeace-: raring?13:46
Peace-yofel: yep13:46
yofelhm, we're having all sorts of python issues there related to the python2 and 3 mix13:47
yofelprobably yet another casuality13:47
Peace-:D 13:47
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shadeslayeryofel: any ideas what the latest thread on kde-packagers is talking about?14:44
shadeslayerI can't find a reference14:44
shadeslayeror rather, I don't understand the context14:44
yofelshadeslayer: I think the context was that ~half year old thread about distributions making the tars public before release14:48
yofelas we with our private archive are a rare case14:48
shadeslayerrdieter: ^ 14:49
shadeslayersince you replied14:49
shadeslayer!botsnack14:49
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!14:49
shadeslayerhmm14:49
shadeslayerwow, the lag14:49
yofelshadeslayer: it's the same as how here kubuntu-ninjas access isn't 100% packagers only14:50
yofelwe have a few testers there too14:50
shadeslayerhmm14:50
shadeslayerI'm still slightly confused14:51
yofelI'm not too sure how chakra intends to handle that14:51
rdietershadeslayer: hi, yeah, my vague recollection is that there's a balance to be found between making the tarballs public versus testing things.14:52
yofelmaybe in a way that would be "put it into raring-proposed and keep it there till released" for us14:52
yofelwhich I would actually like to do too if we could reliably pin them there14:52
shadeslayerso basically, upload them publically, but make them real hard to access?14:53
yofelpretty much14:53
rdieteriirc, some distro or 2 released builds as public updates prior to kde release once or twice, which was frowned-upon.  I think the accepted compromised was to ensure that these are for *testing only*.14:53
rdieterwhich I hope was what I conveyed in my reply today14:54
* shadeslayer shrugs14:54
rdieterthe point is:  avoid cases like "Distro X releases KDE Y.Z" type press release prior to kde.org mentioning the release at all.14:55
shadeslayerhow many times has that happened?14:59
shadeslayeryofel: btw, not sure if you saw this : http://openradar.appspot.com/1312870915:07
shadeslayerso it's not just us who have silly bugs15:07
shadeslayerthe silly part being bangarang audio controls being completely useless15:07
yofelwth o.O15:08
* yofel writes mail to kubuntu-devel re lintian15:08
shadeslayerlintian?15:09
shadeslayerIt seems live I've compltely lost track of what falls into my inbox15:10
yofelshadeslayer: us totally ignoring lintian warnings with our current process15:11
shadeslayerah15:11
shadeslayeryus15:11
shadeslayerwe also need to add sha1sum handling to make sure tars have the right sha15:11
shadeslayerbut that would need a original sha1sum to be added to the src folder15:12
yofelsent15:12
yofelshadeslayer: that or we ask upstream to please include a checksum file with the sources15:13
shadeslayerwell15:13
shadeslayerwhen I said src folder, I meant on ftpmaster.kde.org15:14
shadeslayeralong with the tars :)15:14
yofelah15:14
yofelack15:14
shadeslayerpatch looks fine to me :)15:14
yofelthe copyright description is wrong15:17
yofel-.-15:17
* shadeslayer didn't bother reading that15:18
shadeslayeralright, off to dinner15:19
shadeslayerciao15:19
yofelhm15:19
* yofel is off buying dinner15:19
BluesKajhmm, user managemet won't load , ..error "userconfig/userconfig.py" User Management is being blocked by orphaned modules "userconfig/userconfig.py" ...which I tried removing , but no joy 15:24
apacheloggerreview plz: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc 15:52
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apacheloggerreview plz: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc 18:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: looking18:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: seems good enough18:13
shadeslayercan you run wrap-and-sort?18:14
shadeslayerwould be a nice to have ...18:14
apacheloggerrequest denied18:15
apacheloggercauses pointless scrollery18:15
shadeslayerok, just a personal preference :)18:18
shadeslayerhow am I supposed to launch this thing18:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^ ?18:20
apacheloggerctrl-alt-space18:20
apacheloggerwhich is very discoverable considering it does not appear on first start18:21
apacheloggersee, I know it is ctrl-alt-space because I grepped the source :@18:21
apacheloggeror perhaps it was meta-alt-space?18:21
apacheloggeranywho, something of that style18:21
shadeslayerhah18:21
apacheloggerwhich I, as true katapult user, quickly changed to alt-space18:21
apacheloggeralt-space supremacy!18:22
shadeslayer and how am I supposed to even change that18:22
apacheloggerright click once you brought up the UI18:22
shadeslayerjesus18:22
shadeslayerthis thing is a usability nightmare18:22
apacheloggerit is the one and only setting there is ^^18:22
apacheloggers/this thing/launchers/g18:22
kubotuapachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"18:22
apacheloggerit is fast18:23
shadeslayerdunno about that18:23
* apachelogger would only want it not to search dirs and he'd be happy18:23
shadeslayersearching for "Ted" gives me "Do you want to launch KDevelop"18:23
shadeslayerI'd like some nepomuk integration integration since that's really good in Homerun/krunner18:24
apachelogger:O18:24
apacheloggeryeah, no18:24
shadeslayerheh18:24
apacheloggerstay the hell away from mangonel18:24
shadeslayerI18:24
apacheloggerno fucking bloatware, kthxbai18:24
shadeslayerI'll use it for a bit18:24
shadeslayercan't open urls18:25
shadeslayer:|18:25
apacheloggerit's not meant to18:25
shadeslayerso ... *just* a launcher?18:25
shadeslayerhow boring18:25
apacheloggerfiles+apps+binaries18:25
apacheloggerend of story18:25
shadeslayerit launches files?18:26
shadeslayerdo I have to give the whole path? :(18:26
apacheloggerand by only supporting that stuff I can type at my usual speed and it won't launch the previous app, or another app or some other crap krunner is pulling because it is thinking slower than I type18:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: ~ shoudl work18:26
shadeslayerwell yeah18:26
shadeslayerbut still18:26
shadeslayer~/Movies/Foo/Bar.avi18:27
shadeslayerinstead of just Bar.avi18:27
apacheloggeryeah18:27
apacheloggerI have 3 Bar.avi18:27
apacheloggerthank you18:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: tabcomplete works I believe18:27
apacheloggerI'd want file crap gone anyway18:27
shadeslayer:O18:27
apacheloggerif you have ~/tomahawk and tomahawk you'll have to browse through matches18:27
apacheloggerwhich is utterly fucked up18:28
shadeslayerhmm, good point18:28
shadeslayerbtw18:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: saw my comment about bangarang?18:28
apacheloggeryeah18:28
shadeslayercan you reproduce the issue?18:28
apacheloggerdon't want to :P18:28
shadeslayerlol18:28
apacheloggersee18:28
apacheloggerall kdemm apps use phonon the wrong way18:29
apacheloggereven the kcm did something that was not documentation compliant18:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: does it work with pvlc?18:30
shadeslayerI didn't try18:30
shadeslayerlemme see18:30
shadeslayerbut I'll have to logout18:30
shadeslayerand I just started writing a blog post18:30
shadeslayermotivation to write a blog post is hard to come by18:30
shadeslayerso maybe later18:30
apacheloggeramen on the motivation problem18:31
yofelcome to think of it, we have 2 new packagers who could look at tomahawk18:34
yofelI think all that's left is jreen and tomahawk itself18:34
shadeslayer*nod*18:40
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phoenix_firebrdyofel: dead time for tomahawk?19:13
yofeldead time?19:13
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phoenix_firebrdyofel: dead line for tomahawk?19:14
phoenix_firebrd~time19:14
kubotuAsia - Kolkata - Sun Feb 03 00:44 IST19:14
yofelfeature freeze, packaging is in ppa:tomahawk/ppa, just needs cleanup19:14
yofelafter that get it into the archive19:14
yofelah, and I think the copyright files are missing. That's the hardest part19:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: not anymore19:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i learnt to do the copyright file and i have all the patience 19:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: may be i will finish my homework soon :)19:16
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: did you check the ktp-desktop-applets in my branch?19:17
shadeslayernot yet, on monday, no time for packaging over the weekend19:18
shadeslayerthere's no deadlne for that :)19:18
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ah, you fooled me :)19:19
shadeslayerhuh?19:19
* apachelogger kicks shadeslayer19:20
apacheloggershadeslayer: blogging19:20
shadeslayerheh19:20
shadeslayerI'm doing it19:20
yofelthere is no deadline for blogging19:20
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: you said you wanted it by today morning19:20
shadeslayerI'm just writing words right now19:20
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUZA2Sal0419:20
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i mean yesterday morning19:20
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: heh, nah, I said, I'll do it today if you won't have something by today :P19:20
shadeslayersigh this post is getting insanely long ... or maybe it's just the wordpress theme19:21
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: you still awake?19:22
shadeslayeryes19:22
shadeslayerwriting a blog post19:22
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: he he he19:22
phoenix_firebrdapachelogger: we are enjoing in #music19:23
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shadeslayerapachelogger: yofel http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=169&shareadraft=510d681509bc819:25
yofelshadeslayer++19:25
shadeslayerI still haven't written about STRUCTURE and only half the stuff about germinate19:25
* shadeslayer is thinking of breaking it down into 3 posts19:25
shadeslayerinstead of 219:26
phoenix_firebrdyofel: did you review the packages in my ppa?19:27
yofelphoenix_firebrd: no19:28
yofelI'll review what I can upload19:29
phoenix_firebrdyofel: meaning?19:29
yofelphoenix_firebrd: I already reviewed and uploaded the kolab packages, for the rest I might have some time later to look at them19:31
yofelbut ultimately you'll have to file a sponsorship request and get another review19:31
phoenix_firebrd_*tomahawk19:35
shadeslayerokay, I'm off to sleep19:35
shadeslayernighters19:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: nini19:35
phoenix_firebrd_shadeslayer: good night19:36
shadeslayerbye :)19:36
phoenix_firebrd_shadeslayer: this one day i am leaving after you19:36
phoenix_firebrd_yofel: sleeping?19:37
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phoenix_firebrd_yofel: if anything please mail me. good night19:41
phoenix_firebrd_good night everyone19:41
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