[04:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[04:40] <shadeslayer> yofel_: it's weird, the patch failed to apply .... so debuild didn't generate the source.changes
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:48] <yofel> !testers | 4.10.0 done in ninjas for 12.04-13.04, please smoketest
[12:54] <Tm_T> yofel: perfect (:
[12:55] <shadeslayer> if you're on precise, please also verify bug 1093220
[13:00] <BluesKaj> yofel, got a url for 4.20
[13:00] <BluesKaj> err 4.10
[13:02] <BluesKaj> i can never find new offerings in ninjas 
[13:18] <Peace-> Riddell: bug :D  scriptengine-python installed but widget that require python say that i have not :d
[13:46] <yofel> Peace-: raring?
[13:46] <Peace-> yofel: yep
[13:47] <yofel> hm, we're having all sorts of python issues there related to the python2 and 3 mix
[13:47] <yofel> probably yet another casuality
[13:47] <Peace-> :D 
[14:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: any ideas what the latest thread on kde-packagers is talking about?
[14:44] <shadeslayer> I can't find a reference
[14:44] <shadeslayer> or rather, I don't understand the context
[14:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: I think the context was that ~half year old thread about distributions making the tars public before release
[14:48] <yofel> as we with our private archive are a rare case
[14:49] <shadeslayer> rdieter: ^ 
[14:49] <shadeslayer> since you replied
[14:49] <shadeslayer> !botsnack
[14:49] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:49] <shadeslayer> wow, the lag
[14:50] <yofel> shadeslayer: it's the same as how here kubuntu-ninjas access isn't 100% packagers only
[14:50] <yofel> we have a few testers there too
[14:50] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:51] <shadeslayer> I'm still slightly confused
[14:51] <yofel> I'm not too sure how chakra intends to handle that
[14:52] <rdieter> shadeslayer: hi, yeah, my vague recollection is that there's a balance to be found between making the tarballs public versus testing things.
[14:52] <yofel> maybe in a way that would be "put it into raring-proposed and keep it there till released" for us
[14:52] <yofel> which I would actually like to do too if we could reliably pin them there
[14:53] <shadeslayer> so basically, upload them publically, but make them real hard to access?
[14:53] <yofel> pretty much
[14:53] <rdieter> iirc, some distro or 2 released builds as public updates prior to kde release once or twice, which was frowned-upon.  I think the accepted compromised was to ensure that these are for *testing only*.
[14:54] <rdieter> which I hope was what I conveyed in my reply today
[14:54]  * shadeslayer shrugs
[14:55] <rdieter> the point is:  avoid cases like "Distro X releases KDE Y.Z" type press release prior to kde.org mentioning the release at all.
[14:59] <shadeslayer> how many times has that happened?
[15:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw, not sure if you saw this : http://openradar.appspot.com/13128709
[15:07] <shadeslayer> so it's not just us who have silly bugs
[15:07] <shadeslayer> the silly part being bangarang audio controls being completely useless
[15:08] <yofel> wth o.O
[15:08]  * yofel writes mail to kubuntu-devel re lintian
[15:09] <shadeslayer> lintian?
[15:10] <shadeslayer> It seems live I've compltely lost track of what falls into my inbox
[15:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: us totally ignoring lintian warnings with our current process
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:11] <shadeslayer> yus
[15:11] <shadeslayer> we also need to add sha1sum handling to make sure tars have the right sha
[15:12] <shadeslayer> but that would need a original sha1sum to be added to the src folder
[15:12] <yofel> sent
[15:13] <yofel> shadeslayer: that or we ask upstream to please include a checksum file with the sources
[15:13] <shadeslayer> well
[15:14] <shadeslayer> when I said src folder, I meant on ftpmaster.kde.org
[15:14] <shadeslayer> along with the tars :)
[15:14] <yofel> ah
[15:14] <yofel> ack
[15:14] <shadeslayer> patch looks fine to me :)
[15:17] <yofel> the copyright description is wrong
[15:17] <yofel> -.-
[15:18]  * shadeslayer didn't bother reading that
[15:19] <shadeslayer> alright, off to dinner
[15:19] <shadeslayer> ciao
[15:19] <yofel> hm
[15:19]  * yofel is off buying dinner
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, user managemet won't load , ..error "userconfig/userconfig.py" User Management is being blocked by orphaned modules "userconfig/userconfig.py" ...which I tried removing , but no joy 
[15:52] <apachelogger> review plz: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc 
[18:09] <apachelogger> review plz: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc 
[18:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: looking
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: seems good enough
[18:14] <shadeslayer> can you run wrap-and-sort?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> would be a nice to have ...
[18:15] <apachelogger> request denied
[18:15] <apachelogger> causes pointless scrollery
[18:18] <shadeslayer> ok, just a personal preference :)
[18:18] <shadeslayer> how am I supposed to launch this thing
[18:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^ ?
[18:20] <apachelogger> ctrl-alt-space
[18:21] <apachelogger> which is very discoverable considering it does not appear on first start
[18:21] <apachelogger> see, I know it is ctrl-alt-space because I grepped the source :@
[18:21] <apachelogger> or perhaps it was meta-alt-space?
[18:21] <apachelogger> anywho, something of that style
[18:21] <shadeslayer> hah
[18:21] <apachelogger> which I, as true katapult user, quickly changed to alt-space
[18:22] <apachelogger> alt-space supremacy!
[18:22] <shadeslayer>  and how am I supposed to even change that
[18:22] <apachelogger> right click once you brought up the UI
[18:22] <shadeslayer> jesus
[18:22] <shadeslayer> this thing is a usability nightmare
[18:22] <apachelogger> it is the one and only setting there is ^^
[18:22] <apachelogger> s/this thing/launchers/g
[18:22] <kubotu> apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[18:23] <apachelogger> it is fast
[18:23] <shadeslayer> dunno about that
[18:23]  * apachelogger would only want it not to search dirs and he'd be happy
[18:23] <shadeslayer> searching for "Ted" gives me "Do you want to launch KDevelop"
[18:24] <shadeslayer> I'd like some nepomuk integration integration since that's really good in Homerun/krunner
[18:24] <apachelogger> :O
[18:24] <apachelogger> yeah, no
[18:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:24] <apachelogger> stay the hell away from mangonel
[18:24] <shadeslayer> I
[18:24] <apachelogger> no fucking bloatware, kthxbai
[18:24] <shadeslayer> I'll use it for a bit
[18:25] <shadeslayer> can't open urls
[18:25] <shadeslayer> :|
[18:25] <apachelogger> it's not meant to
[18:25] <shadeslayer> so ... *just* a launcher?
[18:25] <shadeslayer> how boring
[18:25] <apachelogger> files+apps+binaries
[18:25] <apachelogger> end of story
[18:26] <shadeslayer> it launches files?
[18:26] <shadeslayer> do I have to give the whole path? :(
[18:26] <apachelogger> and by only supporting that stuff I can type at my usual speed and it won't launch the previous app, or another app or some other crap krunner is pulling because it is thinking slower than I type
[18:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ~ shoudl work
[18:26] <shadeslayer> well yeah
[18:26] <shadeslayer> but still
[18:27] <shadeslayer> ~/Movies/Foo/Bar.avi
[18:27] <shadeslayer> instead of just Bar.avi
[18:27] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:27] <apachelogger> I have 3 Bar.avi
[18:27] <apachelogger> thank you
[18:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: tabcomplete works I believe
[18:27] <apachelogger> I'd want file crap gone anyway
[18:27] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:27] <apachelogger> if you have ~/tomahawk and tomahawk you'll have to browse through matches
[18:28] <apachelogger> which is utterly fucked up
[18:28] <shadeslayer> hmm, good point
[18:28] <shadeslayer> btw
[18:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: saw my comment about bangarang?
[18:28] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:28] <shadeslayer> can you reproduce the issue?
[18:28] <apachelogger> don't want to :P
[18:28] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:28] <apachelogger> see
[18:29] <apachelogger> all kdemm apps use phonon the wrong way
[18:29] <apachelogger> even the kcm did something that was not documentation compliant
[18:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: does it work with pvlc?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> I didn't try
[18:30] <shadeslayer> lemme see
[18:30] <shadeslayer> but I'll have to logout
[18:30] <shadeslayer> and I just started writing a blog post
[18:30] <shadeslayer> motivation to write a blog post is hard to come by
[18:30] <shadeslayer> so maybe later
[18:31] <apachelogger> amen on the motivation problem
[18:34] <yofel> come to think of it, we have 2 new packagers who could look at tomahawk
[18:34] <yofel> I think all that's left is jreen and tomahawk itself
[18:40] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[19:13] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: dead time for tomahawk?
[19:13] <yofel> dead time?
[19:14] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: dead line for tomahawk?
[19:14] <phoenix_firebrd> ~time
[19:14] <kubotu> Asia - Kolkata - Sun Feb 03 00:44 IST
[19:14] <yofel> feature freeze, packaging is in ppa:tomahawk/ppa, just needs cleanup
[19:14] <yofel> after that get it into the archive
[19:15] <yofel> ah, and I think the copyright files are missing. That's the hardest part
[19:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: not anymore
[19:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i learnt to do the copyright file and i have all the patience 
[19:16] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: may be i will finish my homework soon :)
[19:17] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: did you check the ktp-desktop-applets in my branch?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> not yet, on monday, no time for packaging over the weekend
[19:18] <shadeslayer> there's no deadlne for that :)
[19:19] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: ah, you fooled me :)
[19:19] <shadeslayer> huh?
[19:20]  * apachelogger kicks shadeslayer
[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: blogging
[19:20] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:20] <shadeslayer> I'm doing it
[19:20] <yofel> there is no deadline for blogging
[19:20] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: you said you wanted it by today morning
[19:20] <shadeslayer> I'm just writing words right now
[19:20] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUZA2Sal04
[19:20] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: i mean yesterday morning
[19:20] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: heh, nah, I said, I'll do it today if you won't have something by today :P
[19:21] <shadeslayer> sigh this post is getting insanely long ... or maybe it's just the wordpress theme
[19:22] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: you still awake?
[19:22] <shadeslayer> yes
[19:22] <shadeslayer> writing a blog post
[19:22] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: he he he
[19:23] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger: we are enjoing in #music
[19:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yofel http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=169&shareadraft=510d681509bc8
[19:25] <yofel> shadeslayer++
[19:25] <shadeslayer> I still haven't written about STRUCTURE and only half the stuff about germinate
[19:25]  * shadeslayer is thinking of breaking it down into 3 posts
[19:26] <shadeslayer> instead of 2
[19:27] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: did you review the packages in my ppa?
[19:28] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: no
[19:29] <yofel> I'll review what I can upload
[19:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: meaning?
[19:31] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: I already reviewed and uploaded the kolab packages, for the rest I might have some time later to look at them
[19:31] <yofel> but ultimately you'll have to file a sponsorship request and get another review
[19:35] <phoenix_firebrd_> *tomahawk
[19:35] <shadeslayer> okay, I'm off to sleep
[19:35] <shadeslayer> nighters
[19:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nini
[19:36] <phoenix_firebrd_> shadeslayer: good night
[19:36] <shadeslayer> bye :)
[19:36] <phoenix_firebrd_> shadeslayer: this one day i am leaving after you
[19:37] <phoenix_firebrd_> yofel: sleeping?
[19:41] <phoenix_firebrd_> yofel: if anything please mail me. good night
[19:41] <phoenix_firebrd_> good night everyone