| robtygart | Does anyone know where I can get some extra screen savers | 00:03 |
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| KJ_agent007 | do a google search rob | 00:06 |
| disharmonic | robtygart, kde-look.org? | 00:06 |
| KJ_agent007 | tons of em out there | 00:06 |
| KJ_agent007 | but why bother with screan savers? just put the monitor in sleep mode | 00:08 |
| robtygart | cool thank you | 00:08 |
| robtygart | They are fun | 00:08 |
| robtygart | KJ_agent007: Turn on some music and sit back a watch your screen savers. | 00:10 |
| disharmonic | gn | 00:14 |
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| timinphx1 | hi there, I installed the kernel upgrade this afternoon, and now I am unable to watch any youtube video's in my Chome browser. Anyone else having any similar issues? | 01:08 |
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| robtygart | timinphx1: can you in another browser? If not it could be a flash issue. | 01:47 |
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| KJ_agent007 | yeah, flash is a little flakey in linux these days | 03:04 |
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| hussaind | hello. i am getting "Please ensure JAVA_HOME points to JDK rather than jre" error while installing idea IDE | 04:12 |
| hussaind | please help | 04:13 |
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| james147 | hussaind: do you have a jdk installed? and where does JAVA_HOME point to? | 04:22 |
| hussain | james147: is this correct ? | 04:30 |
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| LINKSWORD2 | Hey guys, how can I run a Kubuntu upgrade process from a USB key? | 05:28 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Any help? | 05:31 |
| ussher_ | upgrade? | 05:34 |
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| ghost_ | Gotta love GNU. | 06:06 |
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| Jeena | I have a weird problem, I installed Kubuntu on two different computers and on both I have the problem that I can't open Context menus (for example rightclick in firefox) it opens for half a second or shorter and closes again | 07:56 |
| Jeena | the same happens for select boxes or comboboxes I think they're called | 07:56 |
| Jeena | is that a known thing with a workaround? | 07:57 |
| raymears | hi. i am experiencing a frustrating issues with font sizes in swing awt applications, such as NetBeans IDE and a couple of others. The fonts of the window menus have a different size than the rest of kde... any idea how to fix this? I've been googling this issue for about a week now... | 09:27 |
| raymears | in the swing applications i have selected the GTK Look and feel and in KDE i have selected the oxygen-gtk widget style for rendering GTK stuff. It also works perfectly in real gtk apps...as they look pretty oxygeny. It is just the swing apps that are annoying | 09:29 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:38 |
| raza | Im using kubuntu 12.10. When i go to blueooth it says "no bluetooth adapters found" | 12:07 |
| raza | any way to fix this ? | 12:07 |
| raza | Kubuntu is installed on my acer laptop | 12:11 |
| raza | do i need to attach seperate hardware or any way to find out if my laptop already has it ? | 12:12 |
| invariant | Most likely you don't have the drivers loaded. | 12:14 |
| invariant | But you can file this as a bug, imho. | 12:14 |
| invariant | If it says that in a GUI, then it should have done some effort to find the adapters. | 12:14 |
| invariant | What it likely meant to say was: "No bluetooth adapters are visible to this software stack because the driver is not loaded and only root can do that". | 12:15 |
| invariant | Or something like: "Currently no drivers are loaded, but we know you have hardware X, do you know want to load this driver? Please input password." | 12:15 |
| invariant | Something like that. | 12:15 |
| yofel | driver loading is automatic. So it's either a driver failure or a missing driver usually | 12:16 |
| anonim | a | 12:38 |
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| Guest33332 | ? | 13:45 |
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| Senjai | Hello | 15:28 |
| Senjai | Just curious | 15:28 |
| Senjai | is Kubuntu shipped with that silly shopping lens in Ubuntu | 15:28 |
| tsimpson | we have no lenses, we have KDE | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | shopping lens ? | 15:29 |
| tsimpson | a Dash/Unity thing | 15:29 |
| Senjai | Its a privacy joke | 15:29 |
| Senjai | just double checking | 15:30 |
| tsimpson | it's not as bad as people seem to want to think it is | 15:30 |
| Senjai | mm | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | what is it anyway ? | 15:30 |
| Senjai | Not as bad as in .. not as bad as windows? | 15:30 |
| Senjai | Its used for shopping for music in music players, but it sends all search keywords to canonical servers for storage and targets you with ads. | 15:31 |
| tsimpson | when you search for something from the default Dash search, it also includes amazon results for that search term | 15:31 |
| tsimpson | it's not ads, and it's anonymous | 15:31 |
| Senjai | its not anonymous, your ip is sent.. | 15:31 |
| Senjai | Dash --> Canonical --> Amazon --> Canonical --> Dash | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | I used unity for a couple weeks , but I didn't bother with those links | 15:32 |
| tsimpson | your IP is sent to canonical, as with every apt-get you do | 15:32 |
| tsimpson | and your IP is not sent to Amazon at all | 15:32 |
| Senjai | But its not stored for use in the future. Neither are what you use apt get to get. | 15:32 |
| Senjai | No it isnt | 15:32 |
| Senjai | Its used to store your searches on canonical servers | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | who cares | 15:32 |
| tsimpson | it's not sent to Amazon at all | 15:32 |
| tsimpson | and the searches aren't stored iirc | 15:33 |
| tsimpson | what you have is basically a forwarding proxy on the Canonical side | 15:33 |
| Senjai | They are stored. The more searches you do the more relevant the information becomes | 15:34 |
| Senjai | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/does-ubuntus-amazon-lens-break-eu-law | 15:34 |
| tsimpson | well even so, it's still not traceable, and not included in KDE | 15:35 |
| Senjai | Not included in KDE is great. Its not traceable from Amazon, but is from Canonical. | 15:35 |
| Senjai | I'm a privacy nut | 15:35 |
| Senjai | Not gonna lie. | 15:35 |
| Torch | Senjai: this is totally off topic here, isn't it? | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | tsimpson, what's the command to delete "orphaned modules" ? | 15:35 |
| Senjai | Torch: I guess now it would be | 15:35 |
| Senjai | Torch: It wasn't originally. | 15:35 |
| tsimpson | it's not traceable from Canonical, they can only tell a request was sent from your IP | 15:36 |
| tsimpson | or rather, from an IP registered to some ISO | 15:36 |
| tsimpson | *ISP | 15:36 |
| tsimpson | BluesKaj: which modules are you referring to? | 15:36 |
| Senjai | tsimpson: Let's agree to disagree on the topic :) Arguements on the internet after all. Thank you for your input though. | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | tsimpson, "userconfig/userconfig.py" seems to be blocking system settings>user management from loading ..I removed the file but it appears un deletable | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | tsimpson, the error also states that an orphaned module was left after the latest KDE upgrade | 15:41 |
| tsimpson | ser Management loads the userconfig.py script, so it won't work if you remove that | 15:42 |
| tsimpson | *User Management | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 15:42 |
| tsimpson | I'm not sure I've ever seen an error or warning about orphaned modules though | 15:42 |
| tsimpson | I'm on 4.9.5 though, so maybe it's something to do with the pre-released KDE | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | I recall seeing them yrs ago , but not lately | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , I'm testing kde 4.10 , but I also had it with 4.9.98 | 15:44 |
| BluesKaj | it doesn't matter much since i'm not adding or editing any groups or users etc | 15:46 |
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| Ab3L | hi. i have a little problem with the sound. from shell i can play sounds using the commands play or mplayer followed by the file.wav i want to play. but when i put the command in ktimer, i cannot hear anything. which is the right command to give to play a wav file? | 16:32 |
| mandoguit | in the middle of upgrading 12.10 -> 13.04 any buglets when doing this automated upgrade being reported so far? tnks | 16:45 |
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| giannhs694 | no1 speaks? | 17:00 |
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| alusion | Hey uhhh, can I install steam on the latest kubuntu? | 18:50 |
| BluesKaj | !steam | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their devlopment, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | alusion, ^ | 18:59 |
| DarthFrog | alusion: I'm running Steam on 64 bit Kubuntu 12.10. You will need to install the 32 bit libraries if you're running 64 bit. | 19:01 |
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| mandoguit | fwiw.... just finished doing an automatic upgrade from 12.10 -> 13.04 with no problems except having to delete some older kernels in /boot due to space considerations. Also did a previous automatic upgrade from 12.04 -> 12.10 without any problems.... pretty slick imho! Thanks again to the devs and others who support Kunbuntu! :-) | 19:17 |
| * sbivol thinks that mandoguit is a brave soul for deciding to dist-upgrade his system and thanks him for sharing his experience | 19:27 | |
| mandoguit | sbivol: lol yw was a bit wary of doing it that way too but thought "what the heck...." ;-) | 19:29 |
| BluesKaj | do-release-upgrade from 12.10>13.04 worked here , when the live-cd ionstalle rwould stall right after the location and time zone entries | 19:30 |
| sbivol | BluesKaj: I installed 13.04 (some daily image) a couple of weeks ago and it went smooth as silk | 19:30 |
| BluesKaj | ionstalle r = ionstaller | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | :) | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | sbivol, there are still some hardware issues with AMD64bit with Nvidia where ubiquity doesn't recognize the hardware and freezes | 19:32 |
| BluesKaj | on the live-dvd | 19:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world, can I ask questions here about installing printers? | 19:35 |
| BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, go ahead and ask .. maybew we can help | 19:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm tring to install a TOSHIBA e-STUDIO255 as a network printer | 19:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | the drivers for this model are not in the ubuntu database (at least not in the installer list) | 19:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | but I've found the driver on the toshiba website | 19:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | here: http://business.toshiba.com/support/downloads.jsp?site=usa | 19:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | sbivol: here you go: http://copiers.toshiba.com/downloads/KB/file_uploads/11087/linux.tar | 19:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't know what to do with those files | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, in the terminal , unrar e linux.tar , then look for the readme and install text files in the reulting folder in your home directory, and follow the instructions given there. | 19:48 |
| BluesKaj | err resulting folder | 19:48 |
| ovidiu-florin | I succeded | 19:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | i tried the CUPS driver instead of the linux driver | 19:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | http://copiers.toshiba.com/downloads/KB/file_uploads/7837/TOSHIBA_EST455_855_CUPS.gz | 19:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | it worked with this one | 19:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok , good ..cups is getting better at including more printers then ever | 19:51 |
| alusion | I'm in a very strange step right now of my kubuntu experience | 19:53 |
| alusion | I'm about to install propietary drivers for my AMD graphics card | 19:53 |
| alusion | last time OpenGL would crash a lot with KDE, and it was driver related issues | 19:53 |
| sbivol | alusion: what Kubuntu version and what graphics chipset do you have? | 19:56 |
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| alusion | 12.10 and I have a sapphire radeon 6850 running on a 64bit system | 19:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: How can I add this driver to the default driver database, so it will be available to others? | 20:00 |
| sbivol | alusion: I have 12.10 on a sapphire radeon 6760 and no issues | 20:02 |
| alusion | you installed the propietary drivers? | 20:03 |
| BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, well that would involve a lot of permissions etc on toshiba's part unless it's already been given an open licence/agreement | 20:04 |
| BluesKaj | sbivol, alusion fglrx driver ? | 20:05 |
| sbivol | alusion: yes, I have driver version 9.00.11 | 20:05 |
| DarthFrog | sbivol: If you're planning on installing the fglrx drivers for gaming with Steam, AMD has done a lot of work recently to improve them. But you'd need to get the latest 'n greatest from the xorg-edgers PPA. | 20:05 |
| sbivol | DarthFrog: I'm happy for the moment, since steam didn't want to create an account for me last time I tried, so I'm happy with the current driver | 20:06 |
| DarthFrog | And if you add the xorg-edgers PPA to your /etc/apt/sources.list.d collection, a dist-upgrade will also install the 3.7 kernel on 12.10 | 20:06 |
| alusion | Do I wanna do that if I care about stability? | 20:07 |
| DarthFrog | sbivol: I think you have to have a pre-existing account with Steam (i.e. in Windows or Mac OS). | 20:07 |
| DarthFrog | No, you shouldn't install anything outside the official Canonical repos if you are concerned about stability. | 20:08 |
| DarthFrog | Installing from PPAs can be de-stabilizing. | 20:08 |
| sbivol | DarthFrog: well, there was a very explicit dialog that offered me to create an account, so I guess it's possible. I didn't get the confirmation email... | 20:09 |
| DarthFrog | sbivol: Then I guess my info is out of date. :-) | 20:09 |
| DarthFrog | When I first installed Steam (i.e. as soon as Valve released the beta client), that was the case. | 20:09 |
| alusion | I'm going to setup a backup solution before I go through with it | 20:11 |
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| alusion | what's the equivalent to system restore point in kubuntu | 20:21 |
| Walex | There is no close equivalent because it is not needed. Most UNIX-like systems have robust package management and library management, and DLL/COM hell usually does not happen. | 20:22 |
| alusion | Alright well just incase this package screws with my system, I can just purge the drivers then right | 20:23 |
| Walex | alusion: yes, and there is something called "Safe mode" in ubuntu. | 20:23 |
| Walex | alusion: the basic idea is that it is very difficult to screw up a UNIX-like system to the point it cannot boot in at least text mode, and from there one can fix any problem with a number of utilities. | 20:24 |
| alusion | yeah of course. I just want to get familiar with change management, I'm one of those people that likes to drive fast but keep the car scratchless. | 20:25 |
| alusion | last time that wasn't the case and my system would implode time to time and I'd be reduced to a tty to fix problems in my inconvenience | 20:26 |
| Walex | alusion: as you may have already discovered the only practical weakness with GNU/Linux drivers is graphics cards... | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | Walex, well amd/ati card drivers have been somewhat neglected the last few yrs , whereas nvidia is trying to keep up | 20:34 |
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| frenzz | irc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe | 20:46 |
| sbivol | frenzz: what? | 20:48 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: I dunno, I've actually had some pretty bad issues with NVIDIA cards in the last few years, and far fewer with my ATI/AMD ones. Mostly it's just *very* different development approaches (NVIDIA is unified cross-platform, but has no open drivers; AMD keeps distinct per-OS closed lines, and also does open Linux development). | 21:00 |
| * keithzg remembers getting an NVIDIA issue a few years back where the solution was to disable some specific X11 rendering features. Then a friend running Windows got hit by the same bug. "Oh, I fixed that on my machine! . . . but, err, the fix may not be too applicable to your box." | 21:01 | |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, I've had both amd and nvidia cards on a couple of linux machines and i've always been able to find a driver fix with nvidia , not so with amd . IME | 21:05 |
| Walex | keithzg: nVidia claim that the driver source is the same on Linux and MS-Windows, just the OS dependent wrapper is different (very different). | 21:09 |
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| keithzg | walex: Indeed, hence identical issues on such fundamentally different platforms. | 21:29 |
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| keithzg | BluesKaj: yeah, it's always per-person, the experience. I was mostly just saying that it's not like AMD's drivers aren't under constant development, because they are; but the split nature of the development (windows, Linux closed-source, Linux open-source) results in certain issues, while the Nvidia approach results in others. Like how I couldn't even run KDE4 without constant crashing until ~4.3, heh (mostly TwinView was at fault there). | 21:31 |
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| entreri | hey there, I'm looking to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu on an old netbook, which one is lighter ? | 23:18 |
| entreri | Ubuntu use to lag a lot and I wonder if Kubuntu would be better | 23:19 |
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