[00:03] Does anyone know where I can get some extra screen savers [00:06] do a google search rob [00:06] robtygart, kde-look.org? [00:06] tons of em out there [00:08] but why bother with screan savers? just put the monitor in sleep mode [00:08] cool thank you [00:08] They are fun [00:10] KJ_agent007: Turn on some music and sit back a watch your screen savers. [00:14] gn === AHaKuH1 is now known as AHaKuH [01:08] hi there, I installed the kernel upgrade this afternoon, and now I am unable to watch any youtube video's in my Chome browser. Anyone else having any similar issues? === nathanael__ is now known as natschil [01:47] timinphx1: can you in another browser? If not it could be a flash issue. === emma_ is now known as em === Jacky is now known as zz_Jacky === zz_Jacky is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [03:04] yeah, flash is a little flakey in linux these days === root is now known as Guest5450 === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === hussain is now known as hussaind [04:12] hello. i am getting "Please ensure JAVA_HOME points to JDK rather than jre" error while installing idea IDE [04:13] please help === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ [04:22] hussaind: do you have a jdk installed? and where does JAVA_HOME point to? [04:30] james147: is this correct ? === AHaKuH is now known as Guest85034 === AHaKuH1 is now known as AHaKuH === sudhendu is now known as ROYal007 [05:28] Hey guys, how can I run a Kubuntu upgrade process from a USB key? [05:31] Any help? [05:34] upgrade? === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [06:06] Gotta love GNU. === dale is now known as luckyphuq === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ [07:56] I have a weird problem, I installed Kubuntu on two different computers and on both I have the problem that I can't open Context menus (for example rightclick in firefox) it opens for half a second or shorter and closes again [07:56] the same happens for select boxes or comboboxes I think they're called [07:57] is that a known thing with a workaround? [09:27] hi. i am experiencing a frustrating issues with font sizes in swing awt applications, such as NetBeans IDE and a couple of others. The fonts of the window menus have a different size than the rest of kde... any idea how to fix this? I've been googling this issue for about a week now... [09:29] in the swing applications i have selected the GTK Look and feel and in KDE i have selected the oxygen-gtk widget style for rendering GTK stuff. It also works perfectly in real gtk apps...as they look pretty oxygeny. It is just the swing apps that are annoying === mfkzt is now known as sjzurek === IdleOne is now known as CancelOne === root is now known as Guest75133 === CancelOne is now known as IdleOne [11:38] Howdy all [12:07] Im using kubuntu 12.10. When i go to blueooth it says "no bluetooth adapters found" [12:07] any way to fix this ? [12:11] Kubuntu is installed on my acer laptop [12:12] do i need to attach seperate hardware or any way to find out if my laptop already has it ? [12:14] Most likely you don't have the drivers loaded. [12:14] But you can file this as a bug, imho. [12:14] If it says that in a GUI, then it should have done some effort to find the adapters. [12:15] What it likely meant to say was: "No bluetooth adapters are visible to this software stack because the driver is not loaded and only root can do that". [12:15] Or something like: "Currently no drivers are loaded, but we know you have hardware X, do you know want to load this driver? Please input password." [12:15] Something like that. [12:16] driver loading is automatic. So it's either a driver failure or a missing driver usually [12:38] a === spawn[dead] is now known as minimus === ubuntu is now known as Guest33332 [13:45] ? === ramapte is now known as RamchandraApte === minimus is now known as Ramamama === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === sharky1 is now known as sharky === sony is now known as Guest12803 === neo12345 is now known as Nbaht === BTCOxygen is now known as Guest38427 === Guest38427 is now known as BTCOxygen [15:28] Hello [15:28] Just curious [15:28] is Kubuntu shipped with that silly shopping lens in Ubuntu [15:29] we have no lenses, we have KDE [15:29] shopping lens ? [15:29] a Dash/Unity thing [15:29] Its a privacy joke [15:30] just double checking [15:30] it's not as bad as people seem to want to think it is [15:30] mm [15:30] what is it anyway ? [15:30] Not as bad as in .. not as bad as windows? [15:31] Its used for shopping for music in music players, but it sends all search keywords to canonical servers for storage and targets you with ads. [15:31] when you search for something from the default Dash search, it also includes amazon results for that search term [15:31] it's not ads, and it's anonymous [15:31] its not anonymous, your ip is sent.. [15:32] Dash --> Canonical --> Amazon --> Canonical --> Dash [15:32] I used unity for a couple weeks , but I didn't bother with those links [15:32] your IP is sent to canonical, as with every apt-get you do [15:32] and your IP is not sent to Amazon at all [15:32] But its not stored for use in the future. Neither are what you use apt get to get. [15:32] No it isnt [15:32] Its used to store your searches on canonical servers [15:32] who cares [15:32] it's not sent to Amazon at all [15:33] and the searches aren't stored iirc [15:33] what you have is basically a forwarding proxy on the Canonical side [15:34] They are stored. The more searches you do the more relevant the information becomes [15:34] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/does-ubuntus-amazon-lens-break-eu-law [15:35] well even so, it's still not traceable, and not included in KDE [15:35] Not included in KDE is great. Its not traceable from Amazon, but is from Canonical. [15:35] I'm a privacy nut [15:35] Not gonna lie. [15:35] Senjai: this is totally off topic here, isn't it? [15:35] tsimpson, what's the command to delete "orphaned modules" ? [15:35] Torch: I guess now it would be [15:35] Torch: It wasn't originally. [15:36] it's not traceable from Canonical, they can only tell a request was sent from your IP [15:36] or rather, from an IP registered to some ISO [15:36] *ISP [15:36] BluesKaj: which modules are you referring to? [15:36] tsimpson: Let's agree to disagree on the topic :) Arguements on the internet after all. Thank you for your input though. [15:38] tsimpson, "userconfig/userconfig.py" seems to be blocking system settings>user management from loading ..I removed the file but it appears un deletable [15:41] tsimpson, the error also states that an orphaned module was left after the latest KDE upgrade [15:42] ser Management loads the userconfig.py script, so it won't work if you remove that [15:42] *User Management [15:42] ok [15:42] I'm not sure I've ever seen an error or warning about orphaned modules though [15:43] I'm on 4.9.5 though, so maybe it's something to do with the pre-released KDE [15:43] I recall seeing them yrs ago , but not lately [15:44] yeah , I'm testing kde 4.10 , but I also had it with 4.9.98 [15:46] it doesn't matter much since i'm not adding or editing any groups or users etc === mfkzt is now known as sjzurek === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ [16:32] hi. i have a little problem with the sound. from shell i can play sounds using the commands play or mplayer followed by the file.wav i want to play. but when i put the command in ktimer, i cannot hear anything. which is the right command to give to play a wav file? [16:45] in the middle of upgrading 12.10 -> 13.04 any buglets when doing this automated upgrade being reported so far? tnks === pablik_ is now known as pablik [17:00] no1 speaks? === jEhrichs_ is now known as jEhrichs === andro_ is now known as Guest33445 === Guest1241 is now known as VlanX === kubuntu is now known as Guest97561 === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Guest69111 is now known as DaZ === Ramamama is now known as spawn[dead] [18:50] Hey uhhh, can I install steam on the latest kubuntu? [18:59] !steam [18:59] Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their devlopment, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. [18:59] alusion, ^ [19:01] alusion: I'm running Steam on 64 bit Kubuntu 12.10. You will need to install the 32 bit libraries if you're running 64 bit. === AHaKuH is now known as Guest22803 [19:17] fwiw.... just finished doing an automatic upgrade from 12.10 -> 13.04 with no problems except having to delete some older kernels in /boot due to space considerations. Also did a previous automatic upgrade from 12.04 -> 12.10 without any problems.... pretty slick imho! Thanks again to the devs and others who support Kunbuntu! :-) [19:27] * sbivol thinks that mandoguit is a brave soul for deciding to dist-upgrade his system and thanks him for sharing his experience [19:29] sbivol: lol yw was a bit wary of doing it that way too but thought "what the heck...." ;-) [19:30] do-release-upgrade from 12.10>13.04 worked here , when the live-cd ionstalle rwould stall right after the location and time zone entries [19:30] BluesKaj: I installed 13.04 (some daily image) a couple of weeks ago and it went smooth as silk [19:31] ionstalle r = ionstaller [19:31] :) [19:32] sbivol, there are still some hardware issues with AMD64bit with Nvidia where ubiquity doesn't recognize the hardware and freezes [19:33] on the live-dvd [19:35] hello world, can I ask questions here about installing printers? [19:37] ovidiu-florin, go ahead and ask .. maybew we can help [19:39] I'm tring to install a TOSHIBA e-STUDIO255 as a network printer [19:39] the drivers for this model are not in the ubuntu database (at least not in the installer list) [19:39] but I've found the driver on the toshiba website [19:40] here: http://business.toshiba.com/support/downloads.jsp?site=usa [19:41] sbivol: here you go: http://copiers.toshiba.com/downloads/KB/file_uploads/11087/linux.tar [19:42] I don't know what to do with those files [19:48] ovidiu-florin, in the terminal , unrar e linux.tar , then look for the readme and install text files in the reulting folder in your home directory, and follow the instructions given there. [19:48] err resulting folder [19:49] I succeded [19:50] i tried the CUPS driver instead of the linux driver [19:50] http://copiers.toshiba.com/downloads/KB/file_uploads/7837/TOSHIBA_EST455_855_CUPS.gz [19:50] it worked with this one [19:51] ok , good ..cups is getting better at including more printers then ever [19:53] I'm in a very strange step right now of my kubuntu experience [19:53] I'm about to install propietary drivers for my AMD graphics card [19:53] last time OpenGL would crash a lot with KDE, and it was driver related issues [19:56] alusion: what Kubuntu version and what graphics chipset do you have? === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ [19:56] 12.10 and I have a sapphire radeon 6850 running on a 64bit system [20:00] BluesKaj: How can I add this driver to the default driver database, so it will be available to others? [20:02] alusion: I have 12.10 on a sapphire radeon 6760 and no issues [20:03] you installed the propietary drivers? [20:04] ovidiu-florin, well that would involve a lot of permissions etc on toshiba's part unless it's already been given an open licence/agreement [20:05] sbivol, alusion fglrx driver ? [20:05] alusion: yes, I have driver version 9.00.11 [20:05] sbivol: If you're planning on installing the fglrx drivers for gaming with Steam, AMD has done a lot of work recently to improve them. But you'd need to get the latest 'n greatest from the xorg-edgers PPA. [20:06] DarthFrog: I'm happy for the moment, since steam didn't want to create an account for me last time I tried, so I'm happy with the current driver [20:06] And if you add the xorg-edgers PPA to your /etc/apt/sources.list.d collection, a dist-upgrade will also install the 3.7 kernel on 12.10 [20:07] Do I wanna do that if I care about stability? [20:07] sbivol: I think you have to have a pre-existing account with Steam (i.e. in Windows or Mac OS). [20:08] No, you shouldn't install anything outside the official Canonical repos if you are concerned about stability. [20:08] Installing from PPAs can be de-stabilizing. [20:09] DarthFrog: well, there was a very explicit dialog that offered me to create an account, so I guess it's possible. I didn't get the confirmation email... [20:09] sbivol: Then I guess my info is out of date. :-) [20:09] When I first installed Steam (i.e. as soon as Valve released the beta client), that was the case. [20:11] I'm going to setup a backup solution before I go through with it === AHaKuH is now known as Guest82770 === marcek is now known as tshunter [20:21] what's the equivalent to system restore point in kubuntu [20:22] There is no close equivalent because it is not needed. Most UNIX-like systems have robust package management and library management, and DLL/COM hell usually does not happen. [20:23] Alright well just incase this package screws with my system, I can just purge the drivers then right [20:23] alusion: yes, and there is something called "Safe mode" in ubuntu. [20:24] alusion: the basic idea is that it is very difficult to screw up a UNIX-like system to the point it cannot boot in at least text mode, and from there one can fix any problem with a number of utilities. [20:25] yeah of course. I just want to get familiar with change management, I'm one of those people that likes to drive fast but keep the car scratchless. [20:26] last time that wasn't the case and my system would implode time to time and I'd be reduced to a tty to fix problems in my inconvenience [20:28] alusion: as you may have already discovered the only practical weakness with GNU/Linux drivers is graphics cards... [20:34] Walex, well amd/ati card drivers have been somewhat neglected the last few yrs , whereas nvidia is trying to keep up === home is now known as bulkistas [20:46] irc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe [20:48] frenzz: what? [21:00] BluesKaj: I dunno, I've actually had some pretty bad issues with NVIDIA cards in the last few years, and far fewer with my ATI/AMD ones. Mostly it's just *very* different development approaches (NVIDIA is unified cross-platform, but has no open drivers; AMD keeps distinct per-OS closed lines, and also does open Linux development). [21:01] * keithzg remembers getting an NVIDIA issue a few years back where the solution was to disable some specific X11 rendering features. Then a friend running Windows got hit by the same bug. "Oh, I fixed that on my machine! . . . but, err, the fix may not be too applicable to your box." [21:05] keithzg, I've had both amd and nvidia cards on a couple of linux machines and i've always been able to find a driver fix with nvidia , not so with amd . IME [21:09] keithzg: nVidia claim that the driver source is the same on Linux and MS-Windows, just the OS dependent wrapper is different (very different). === AHaKuH is now known as Guest95908 === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [21:29] walex: Indeed, hence identical issues on such fundamentally different platforms. === a is now known as Guest21486 [21:31] BluesKaj: yeah, it's always per-person, the experience. I was mostly just saying that it's not like AMD's drivers aren't under constant development, because they are; but the split nature of the development (windows, Linux closed-source, Linux open-source) results in certain issues, while the Nvidia approach results in others. Like how I couldn't even run KDE4 without constant crashing until ~4.3, heh (mostly TwinView was at fault there). === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === kubuntu is now known as Guest39544 === ubuntu is now known as Guest32611 [23:18] hey there, I'm looking to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu on an old netbook, which one is lighter ? [23:19] Ubuntu use to lag a lot and I wonder if Kubuntu would be better === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang