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| jtaylor | can someone in precise please start simutrans and select german as language and see if it crashes? | 11:37 |
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| iceroot | jtaylor: sure | 11:40 |
| jtaylor | thx | 11:40 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: its working on 12.04 and i can select German/Deutsch on my already german system | 11:41 |
| jtaylor | k just quantal then | 11:41 |
| jtaylor | looking at bug 1113356 | 11:42 |
| iceroot | jtaylor: http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/simutrans.png maybe you need that | 11:44 |
| melodie | hello | 13:02 |
| penguin42 | hi | 13:03 |
| melodie | I would like to know if the following would be considered as a bug : in a Lubuntu install, I was about to remove chromium-browser, bacause I installed Midori to replace it : then the package manager wants to install the firefox packages instead. What do you think ? | 13:03 |
| melodie | hi penguin42 | 13:03 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | that sounds like there is something asking for 'a web browser' so that when chrome is removed it decides it wants another one, but for some reason midori isn't listed | 13:05 |
| melodie | then what should I do ? If I am to seek for a bug report formerly posted what key words should I use ? | 13:06 |
| melodie | one more question : what If I don't want any web browser, am I not free to not have one in an Ubuntu box ? (in the worse case of course) | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | the question is figuring out what it is that has the dependency; for example ubuntu-desktop seems to have a dependency specifically on firefox, but that's ok you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package for example | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | melodie: I'm not sure what I'd report that bug against until I found the thing with the dependency | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | melodie: it's odd, because midori seems to have the 'Provides: www-browser' tag on it, so if that's just what something was asking for it should be fine | 13:10 |
| melodie | I am not sure I understand what you just said. all i know is midori is installed in that box of mine (I have lubuntu at different places, here it's in vbox, to make tests in it) | 13:12 |
| melodie | I think that "something" didn't find it if this is what is seeking for. else, it's seeking for else than www-browser ? | 13:13 |
| melodie | penguin42, I didn't find any related bug, it does not mean that there is not one filed up, but I'll post one of mine : if I ever find the link to "New bug" ! :-( | 13:26 |
| melodie | where is the link to new bug please ? | 13:26 |
| penguin42 | melodie: The easiest thing is from your running system to type ubuntu-bug packagename | 13:26 |
| penguin42 | melodie: You need to pick a package - but it's difficult to say at this point | 13:27 |
| penguin42 | melodie: Packages have 'dependencies' - i.e. to install y-package you *must* have z-package installed | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | melodie: y-package might say it needs www-browser or it might say it needs firefox, or it might say it needs 'firefox|chromium-browser' | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | melodie: If you find y-package? | 13:28 |
| * penguin42 pops out | 13:29 | |
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| melodie | how do you want me to find y-package, penguin42 ? | 13:34 |
| melodie | launching ubuntu-bug agains chromium-browser | 13:35 |
| melodie | anyhow this package should be removed without triggering the install of another web-browser : the users are not that stupid ? | 13:36 |
| melodie | penguin42, I can't use apport to do that, there is no option to write something there | 13:37 |
| melodie | it just allows "sending a bug" : but what bug if I can't say what is bothering ? | 13:38 |
| melodie | ok : it opens a window with an url in... chromium browser! | 13:40 |
| melodie | now what ? :o | 13:44 |
| melodie | I tried to get the url from the invited to the host and put it in Firefox in my host: | 13:44 |
| melodie | https://login.launchpad.net/hNVZVX1d2w7N7LXP/+decide | 13:44 |
| melodie | answer: | 13:44 |
| melodie | Invalid OpenID transaction | 13:44 |
| melodie | is that bug report system just mad ? | 13:44 |
| melodie | go the link ! | 13:47 |
| melodie | had to search it from ubuntu.com directly | 13:47 |
| melodie | bug report sent, result "Timeout error" | 13:59 |
| melodie | :@ | 13:59 |
| melodie | Trying again in a couple of minutes might work. | 14:00 |
| melodie | I'll have to write it again. never seen that at launchpad so far. | 14:00 |
| melodie | really ! | 14:00 |
| melodie | done ! | 14:09 |
| melodie | penguin42, here is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1113490 | 14:09 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1113490 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Web browser packages management in Precise 12.04 is crazy " [Undecided,New] | 14:09 |
| phillw | Hi folks, I'm in my usual confused state. Part of the instructions for registering bugs states that you need to have a signed PGP key on your launchpad account, yet one of the guys who registers bugs does not have one. Thus my confusion! | 19:27 |
| penguin42 | you don't need a key to report bugs | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | phillw: Where did you find that? | 19:43 |
| phillw | penguin42: I'm now trawling through the various wiki links to try and find the offending article! | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | phillw: You just need a login on launchpad | 20:04 |
| phillw | penguin42: thanks, I can remove all of that from the pre-requisites to the classroom session. I cannot now find the wiki page that stated it, but will keep my eye open for it :) | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | hehe | 20:06 |
| phillw | penguin42: thanks for the clarification, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_2 is now good to go :) | 20:09 |
| penguin42 | cool | 20:11 |
| phillw | people from -bugs are welcome to attend for when people ask me questions I cannot answer :) | 20:19 |
| penguin42 | you picked the wrong week; I'll be working that week | 20:20 |
| * TheLordOfTime glances at the link | 20:22 | |
| TheLordOfTime | bleh, phillw | 20:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | you scheduled that into the time when i'm busyish :/ | 20:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | phillw: also, penguin42's right, you don't need a key nor PGP key nor otherwise to report a bug. | 20:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | just an LP account | 20:23 |
| phillw | TheLordOfTime: so I have learned. and, as ever, the wiki page that told me that you do is no where to be found! | 20:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | probably because it was never there :P | 20:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | phillw: there's a section on using bazaar to submit a patch, somewhere else... | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | I think they hide when ever you spot them | 20:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | but rthat's implied you need a key | 20:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | and of course, debdiffs, and debuild -S, they need PGP keys | 20:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... and why do i have 3 *new* PGP keys I didn't have before? | 20:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | o.O | 20:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42: true statement | 20:26 |
| phillw | TheLordOfTime: if truth be know, I was hoping Nicholas or some one from -bugs would be holding the session :) But, what the heck... you can all complain later for stuff I get wrong :P | 20:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | you never bothered emailing the bugsquad and bugcontrol lists did you? or at least email bugsquad's list, and then someone forwards to bug control. | 20:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | phillw: i'll be aroundish | 20:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | or rather try to be, for the first session | 20:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | but i'm not running the session :p | 20:32 |
| phillw | TheLordOfTime: as I have to cover reporting bugs on test cases as well as the general bug reporting, I am okay with holding it :) | 20:34 |
| phillw | a few friendly faces in classroom-chat will be welcome :) | 20:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | i can't be there the entire time, i have class at 12:00 UTC-5 | 20:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | so i have to dart out at about 11:45 UTC-5 | 20:35 |
| phillw | I'm sure Gema will be more than able to hold her own on the following session :D | 20:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | (add 5 hours to the times above to get UTC) | 20:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm more concerned about your session | 20:42 |
| TheLordOfTime | because if someone asks where they should report their hardware not working, well... | 20:43 |
| TheLordOfTime | we run into weird edge cases where it could fall into two possible destinations instead of one, since the wiki mentions where hardware bugs go | 20:43 |
| melodie | bye | 21:36 |
| penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: That's not normally two bad, in general the guys who know about it tend to be the same guys on both sides, although I guess it's to go with the more specific one (like tending to go with X even if it's likely to be the DRM driver in the kernel) | 21:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | true, its when we get asked "How should I file it?" it becomes confusing | 21:40 |
| penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: yeh I guess at some point it comes down to gut feel | 21:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | my specialty's server bugs. and a few select packages. so... | 21:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | *shrugs* | 21:45 |
| penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: It's one of those things like when a particular server won't work with a particular client and you have no clue which is at fault | 21:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | yep | 21:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | except usually its kernel, since there's no X there :P | 21:48 |
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