[00:00] <Bray90820> but why would i get the exact same error on my flash drive as i did on the dvd
[00:00] <devon> How can I make it so that others cannot access a folder unless they input a password?
[00:00] <Goldwing> Bray90820 : burn it on a CD, the image was made for a CD, not a DVD.
[00:01] <AAA_awright_> devon: Usually that's what disk encryption is for, and it's not exactly trivial to do
[00:01] <Goldwing> devon : impossible using ssh/telnet access
[00:02] <devon> AAA_awright_: That would password protect the whole disk, not what I want  and Goldwing: It's a local computer I'm PW-protecting
[00:02] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, my wireless card got disabled and it says: "wireless is disabled by hardware switch". how do i fix this?
[00:03] <Bray90820> ok
[00:03] <devon> paranoidphreak: Does the card have a physical switch on it?
[00:03] <Bray90820> and by the way i know my flash drive it good
[00:03] <Bray90820> i bought it from the ubuntu store
[00:04] <guideX> in unity, are there any files and folders?
[00:04] <Goldwing> devon : ubuntu can use sudo, but that is for superuser, the only thing you can do is add users to groups that have permissions to access certain files
[00:04] <AAA_awright_> devon: You can mount filesystems to a directory, or keep them around as a file instead of a partition
[00:04] <guideX> or something equivellant to 'my computer' in windows
[00:04] <devon> guideX: You would be referring to the "Home" folder, which would be equivalent to "My Documents"
[00:04] <AAA_awright_> guideX: Do you mean a general file browser?
[00:05] <guideX> yeah
[00:05] <devon> guideX: The "C:/" drive would just be referred to as "/" though.
[00:05] <guideX> yeah I know..
[00:05] <AAA_awright_> Try Super+E iirc
[00:05] <guideX> I'm juust very unfamiliar with unity
[00:05] <guideX> oh ok
[00:05] <guideX> hmm nothing happened
[00:05] <AAA_awright_> Or Super+1?
[00:06] <guideX> oh cool
[00:06] <AAA_awright_> It's the picture of the folder on the menu
[00:06] <guideX> how do I get back to it
[00:06] <guideX> like withoutremembering superwindows+1
[00:06] <guideX> err windows+1
[00:07] <pschmitt> hi, how do i get pulseaudio's volume in dB with pactl ?
[00:07] <paranoidphreak_> hi everybody, my wireless card got disabled and it says: "wireless is disabled by hardware switch". how do i fix this?
[00:07] <guideX> can I like pin it
[00:08] <nikrep> @devon can you not use the private folder feature with ecryptfs-utils
[00:08] <Bray90820> so now i will try with a cd
[00:08] <pschmitt> paranoidphreak_: try rfkill
[00:09] <flintser> paranoidphreak_: you use laptop? if yes check that you did not accidentally switch your wifi card off
[00:09] <guideX> anyone know how to get rabbit svn into my folder view in unity?
[00:09] <flintser> by using fn+something or maybe even a physical switch (like the message implies)
[00:10] <paranoidphreak_> pschmitt: i don't know what to type after "rfkill"
[00:10] <xaka> is there the way to know which process works with a file?
[00:10] <pschmitt> paranoidphreak_: rtfm :)
[00:10] <xaka> something like "lsof", but from file perspective
[00:11] <pschmitt> pschmitt: -> man rfkill
[00:11] <paranoidphreak_> flintser: i do have a laptop but i also get this error when i installed a wireless usb card
[00:11] <pschmitt> paranoidphreak_: -> man rfkill
[00:12] <aaron> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[00:12]  * Goldwing is off to bed... laterzzz all
[00:12] <Chiko> err how can i start a screen with a certain name and have it run a program automatically and return
[00:12] <Chiko> cya
[00:12] <Guest87326> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[00:12] <paranoidphreak_> pschmitt: thanks, i'll look into that
[00:13] <aaron_212> ayuda
[00:13] <pschmitt> paranoidphreak_: whats the output of rkill list ?
[00:18] <TomyLobo> which of the stable ubuntu releases has the best hardware support for asus laptops?
[00:18] <TomyLobo> is there a page where i can look up compatibility?
[00:19] <Chiko> can i instruct screen to run a program? screen -S Name -d ??RunThisCommandBeforeReturning??
[00:19] <compdoc> only two to choose from: 12.04 and 12.10. you can try either
[00:20] <compdoc> you'll have a 50/50 chance of it supporting your asus laptop
[00:20] <dpurgert> probably better than 50/50 ...
[00:20] <happyface> Chiko, first of all, check out byobu. But if you want something to run in screen just set the script in .screenrc
[00:20] <TomyLobo> yeah how do you get to 50/50?
[00:21] <TomyLobo> not like either 12.04 or 12.10 supports it :D
[00:21] <dpurgert> "it will" or "it won't" :) (odds are that it will though)
[00:21] <TomyLobo> the intel on-chip gfx will probably work. sound and wireless... who knows
[00:21] <nicekiwi_> shen I run ssh-add I get the message "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." <--- what does this mean?
[00:22] <dpurgert> nicekiwi_, are you running a ssh agent?
[00:23] <dpurgert> or rather, is the ssh agent running?  unless it's in your .profile or .bashrc to run on startup, you'll need to manually start the agent
[00:24] <nicekiwi_> dpurgert, I dont know.. i cant seem to find that out
[00:24] <TomyLobo> dpurgert the thing is, i havent bought that laptop yet :)
[00:25] <dpurgert> nicekiwi_, do ps-ef | grep agent
[00:25] <TomyLobo> not ps -ef?
[00:25] <DreaBuntu> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 with proprietary ATI drivers. I've had this problem in 12.04 too...basically when my PC has been on for a few minutes...all window animations are smooth......after a few hours of use, different software etc....animations are laggy....such as minimizing/maximizing windows....or the snapping animation....very laggy....any fix? I've seen so many different kind of solutions on a quick google search....any unified fix?
[00:25] <nicekiwi_> root      7308  6965  0 04:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto agent
[00:25] <dpurgert> TomyLobo, yeah, the grep is to just find it
[00:25] <dpurgert> nicekiwi_, OK, your agent isn't running
[00:26] <TomyLobo> dpurgert emphasis on the missing space
[00:26] <nicekiwi_> TomyLobo, :P i did notice
[00:26] <dpurgert> TomyLobo, bahhahahah didn't even see that *facepalm* ... guess that's what I get for typing at ~00.30
[00:27] <Chiko> happyface: is it possible to launch a screen and return immediately even though the application it's running will run for an unknown period of time?
[00:27] <Chiko> i dont want the call to screen to be blocked as ineed to run a few
[00:27] <nicekiwi_> dpurgert, right. how do I start it?
[00:28] <Shaba1> Hello all
[00:28] <TomyLobo> Chiko try -d
[00:28] <Chiko> yeah doesn't work if the app blocks and if i put it before the command it doesn't seem to work
[00:28] <TomyLobo> screen shouldnt care whether the app inside it blocks
[00:28] <Shaba1> can someone give me a quick and dirty site that gives instruction on upgrading from one version of ubuntu running under wubi to another?
[00:29] <happyface> Chiko, that's called detatching the screen. run screen with -d to do that
[00:29] <Chiko> yeah but it doesn't detatch until after the program returns
[00:29] <happyface> Chiko, wait you can just do screen -d -m "command" I think, try that
[00:29] <TomyLobo> screen -dmS screen_name command
[00:30] <TomyLobo> or something like that
[00:30] <Chiko> at least thats when im running it in terminal i wonder if it will be have differently in startup
[00:30] <Chiko> trying
[00:30] <happyface> Chiko, nvm that prob wont work
[00:30] <TomyLobo> then reattach with screen -r screen_name
[00:30] <ClientAlive> jrib: seems like it works fine in ~/.local   I had no idea tha dir was even there. I see that a lot of my programs are there (~/.local/share/). Anyhow, do you happen to know, am I missing something when it comes to running a multi file project in eclipse? I was having a lot of problems with that earlier (before I reinstalled) and don't want to make the same stupid mistake if I can avoid it.
[00:30] <Chiko> i don't want to reattach though
[00:30] <TomyLobo> Chiko ever?
[00:30] <happyface> you want to eventually reattach, right?
[00:30] <Chiko> not at this point in time
[00:31] <Chiko> basically on startup i want it to start 3 programs
[00:31] <TomyLobo> if you never want to reattach, just use nohup or something
[00:31] <Chiko> i do want to reattach but manually and randomly :D
[00:31] <sianhulo> excuse me guys, are there plans to add support to deltadebs?
[00:31] <TomyLobo> Chiko yes, that's what i meant
[00:31] <Chiko> Ah right
[00:31] <jrib> ClientAlive: I don't use eclipse so can't really say
[00:32] <pidgin_user> hello
[00:32] <kingbeast> hello pidgin_user
[00:32] <jakey1> Hi, whats the best way to make an image on a usb on windows of ubuntu?
[00:32] <TomyLobo> "multi-file project" - yeah, pretty much any project in eclipse has more than one file
[00:32] <TomyLobo> jakey1 what's your aim?
[00:32] <jakey1> without getting a virus
[00:32] <pidgin_user> hi kingbeast
[00:33] <ClientAlive> jrib: totally dead in #eclipse  :(  oh wel. thx man
[00:33] <TomyLobo> booting from it to install?
[00:33] <kingbeast> pidgin_user, do you have a question?
[00:33] <TomyLobo> or booting from it to run it?
[00:33] <jakey1> TomyLobo, I have a laptop with a clean hard drive I want to instal ubuntu on it
[00:33] <pidgin_user> yes, its about seeng my ipcam from anywhere
[00:33] <jakey1> I have the .iso on another machine
[00:33] <dr_willis> the pendrivelinux site has several tools jakey1
[00:33] <TomyLobo> actually, doesnt matter, the answer is unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:34] <jakey1> Thanks folks
[00:34] <TomyLobo> hmmm this doesnt list 12.10 as a supported os
[00:34] <otis> hola
[00:34] <kingbeast> pidgin_user, ask the entire question and someone may be able to help you
[00:36] <pidgin_user> Ive read user guides and tutorials. I did any thing was said to me. but i can't get the port opened to view the cam from outdoor
[00:37] <TomyLobo> dr_willis ugh, that pendrivelinux page looks like a seo node
[00:37] <TomyLobo> not saying that it is one, but it is as ugly as one
[00:37] <dr_willis> no idea what that means..
[00:37] <otis> hmmm
[00:37] <TomyLobo> you know those pages that pop up when a page goes offline?
[00:38] <TomyLobo> those exploit the former page's pagerank for search engine optimization (SEO)
[00:38] <jakey1> TomyLobo, this UNetbootin is virus free?
[00:39] <dr_willis> not really. ;-)
[00:39] <topper4125_> ya... their site isn't pretty but their program gets the job done nicely
[00:39] <TomyLobo> jakey1 if you need to ask that... are you sure linux is your cup of tea?
[00:39] <dr_willis> jakey1:  scan it if you want
[00:39] <otis> lol
[00:39] <sianhulo> I installed vmware but cannot launch it, it says that my kernel is missing some modules. It gives the option to install them but fails, it gives out this log http://pastebin.com/3JSZtiEM
[00:40] <otis> user virtual box
[00:40] <TomyLobo> sianhulo ask vmware support
[00:40] <otis> use
[00:40] <TomyLobo> or use virtual box, yeah :P
[00:40] <TomyLobo> or kvm with libvirt/virt-manager
[00:40] <TomyLobo> depending on your aim
[00:41] <otis> indeedy
[00:41] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, that won't do, the OS is vmware based, not an .iso
[00:41] <jakey1> usially I use startup disk creator but it keeps mal functioning
[00:41] <pidgin_user> Ive read user guides and tutorials.
[00:41] <dr_willis> the pendrivelinux site has several tools jakey1  try other tools
[00:41] <pidgin_user>  I did any thing was said to me.
[00:41] <pidgin_user>  but i can't get the port opened to view the cam from outdoor
[00:41] <otis> I was having problems with my vmware installing linux because of my processor
[00:42] <otis> but i was able to make it work on virtual box
[00:42] <sianhulo> and my conection is super slow, I'd prefer to work with what I currently have...
[00:43] <sianhulo> as I said, virtualbox is not an option because I wouldn't be able to load what I want as those OS are vmware archives
[00:43] <daftykins> 10.04 support, does it end this April or April 2015?
[00:43] <TomyLobo> sianhulo says who? :)
[00:44] <dr_willis> i thought you can convert vmware to vbox
[00:44] <TomyLobo> vmdk images are supported by kvm
[00:44] <TomyLobo> likely by vbox too
[00:44] <jakey1> Whats the difference between the server edition and the dektop edition of ubuntu
[00:44] <dr_willis> one has a desktoo
[00:44] <jakey1> can you not use the desktop version as a server anyway
[00:45] <dr_willis> yes jakey1
[00:45] <daftykins> jakey1: server installs CLI only
[00:45] <jakey1> ah ok
[00:45] <sianhulo> for what I know these OSes don't work with the newest version of vmware
[00:45] <sianhulo> for that I'm actually trying to use 3.1.1 instead of the last 5
[00:45] <mikehaas763> I installed compiz-settings-manager. I didn't change anything really. But now (even after uninstalling compiz) It pauses for about 5 seconds after login before my desktop shows up. Any ideas how to fix it?
[00:45] <jakey1> is there any benifit in terms of spec to instal the server one
[00:45] <yeats> sianhulo: you might just need to install the 'linux-headers-generic' package, but there are other options - KVM for instance
[00:45] <daftykins> jakey1: common practices are that servers only ever have the minimal software possible to reduce exploit potential, by reducing their 'attack surface area' so to speak
[00:46] <yeats> !kvm | sianhulo
[00:46] <daftykins> jakey1: lower disk space consumed, due to less software. it'll run faster on ancient hardware too
[00:46] <jakey1> daftykins, true thats what Im ptting it on
[00:46] <daftykins> jakey1: :D
[00:46] <sianhulo> yeats, I'm almost sure I just installed it(most likely it comes with ubuntu)will check, though
[00:47] <yeats> sianhulo: it doesn't come on the desktop by default
[00:47] <jakey1> If I put a 32bit edition on 64bit computer, does that mean not all the reseources are being utilised
[00:48] <sianhulo> yeats, odd, I have linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic and I reinstalled ubuntu today...
[00:49] <yeats> sianhulo: ok - well, in any case, you might need to go to #vmware for further support
[00:50] <daftykins> jakey1: if the system has >4GB RAM, you'd want 64-bit
[00:50] <sianhulo> yeats, vmware have always been troublesome and I think that ubutnu 12.10 isn't a certified host so there's a chance that I won't get support(adding the fact that i'm trying to use a old version), might as well try kvm
[00:50] <yeats> sianhulo: I recommend KVM
[00:51] <jakey1> daftykins, ha not on this old machine
[00:51] <yeats> sianhulo: and there are ways to convert vmware images to kvm-friendly ones
[00:51] <daftykins> jakey1: just stick to 32-bit then imo
[00:52] <sianhulo> yeats, thanks for all the help, gotta see if I can get it working on kvm
[00:52] <jakey1> I want to setup the server run virtual windows on it an see how virus work in the windows
[00:53] <jakey1> just for experiment
[00:53] <otis> fuarking slow ass internet
[00:54] <jakey1> there is so many cool things you can have fun with on a server
[00:55] <daftykins> jakey1: virtualisation is great :>
[00:57] <dpurgert> pidgin_user, why're you trying to open up some port(s) on your router?
[00:58] <dpurgert> daftykins, absolutely ... until you do something daft like eat too much of the host system's resources (speaking from exp here :))
[00:59] <daftykins> dpurgert: :D super fun crash-death time?
[00:59] <dpurgert> well, it doesn't really crash daftykins ... more like everything locks up and you can't get anything to work
[01:00] <daftykins> :D
[01:00] <daftykins> i'd get the same effect forkbombing myself
[01:00] <dpurgert> lol, yup ...
[01:02] <TomyLobo> until you sprinkle some kill magic
[01:03] <anton____> ?
[01:03] <TomyLobo> i had that kind of effect when i tried to install the cassandra package (which defaults to creating a huge chunk of ram apparently on my old laptop with 1.5 gb ram)
[01:04] <TomyLobo> awesome fact: 10 minutes later i was able to work on that laptop again without any problems
[01:04] <TomyLobo> without a reboot
[01:04] <TomyLobo> (before that, it was a bit choppy)
[01:05] <dpurgert> nice :)
[01:05] <dpurgert> the beauty of linux, eh?
[01:06] <pidgin_user> dpurgert, Im trying only to watch an ipcam from anywhwere
[01:06] <TomyLobo> yep
[01:07] <dpurgert> pidgin_user, you'd do better to VPN in first... unless the webcam isn't just open
[01:08] <chrissie_o> trying to make a usb install disc and it sys system policy prevents mounting and asks for password, but even with authentication the startup creator immediately fails
[01:09] <pidgin_user> dpurtgert vpn is a better way ?
[01:09] <sianhulo> yeats, it seems that I won't be able to use, it appears that my processor doesn't support hardware virtualizing
[01:10] <dpurgert> sianhulo, you "can" run virtualised systems on most anything ... I had one running on an old single-core Athlon XP
[01:10] <sianhulo> dpurgert, so it was basically misleading me?
[01:12] <vipzrx> hello ,
[01:12] <dpurgert> sianhulo, well, it'll work "better" if the processor has the support ... but it's not like you're going to break anything by installing the VM host
[01:12] <vipzrx> i am new to ubuntu 12.04, i love it !
[01:13] <sianhulo> dpurgert, and I thought I had a pretty decent cpu too *sigh*
[01:13] <dpurgert> sianhulo, huh? what do you mean?
[01:14] <sianhulo> dpurgert, I have a core 2 duo, figured it wouldn't restrain me with this kind of applications
[01:15] <redheat> hi everyone, and happy new year to you all..Yeah I know it's a month late..yet still happy new year to you all..I have a problem with Ubuntu, it won't update ..
[01:15] <dpurgert> sianhulo, it really won't restrict you -- it just won't necessarily work "as well" as one with those other extensions -- probably something as simple as they just give the virtual machine direct access to the CPU (rather than going thru the VM host)
[01:15] <TomyLobo> sianhulo do you have the precise type?
[01:16] <dpurgert> redheat, what do you mean by "won't update"
[01:16] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, what do you mean?
[01:16] <redheat> simply when I press check for update and then it starts to load the cache..I get an error, I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu, Quantal...
[01:16] <TomyLobo> sianhulo core 2 duo sounds pretty old
[01:16] <redheat> this is what I get..."E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_rvm_smplayer_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[01:16] <TomyLobo> 2006-2008
[01:17] <dpurgert> redheat -- sounds like that ppa is gone, or otherwise not listening. just take it out of your apt sources and try again
[01:17] <Phisicist> Hello. Exist possibility to change a forgotten keyword?
[01:17] <TomyLobo> and none of them has vm stuff it seems... at least he word "virtual" doesnt show up on their wiki pages
[01:17] <redheat> I tried loading the software source list but it won't open..I don't know why
[01:17] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, core 2 duo E7200, come on, it's not like you need a quad core to do everything, I don't play games and don't use graphics applications so it should be more than enough
[01:18] <dpurgert> sianhulo, it "should" work
[01:18] <TomyLobo> it's about cpu features, sianhulo :)
[01:18] <dr_willis> Phisicist:   keyword meaning what?
[01:18] <TomyLobo> Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) - No
[01:18] <TomyLobo> http://ark.intel.com/products/35348/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E7200-3M-Cache-2_53-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB
[01:18] <sianhulo> dpurgert, but not as good, and I think(not completely sure)that I canot boot 64bits desktops
[01:19] <dpurgert> I was running VirtualBox (or VMWare ... don't remember) on an AMD Athlon XP 3200.  That's _YEARS_ older ...
[01:19] <Phisicist> dr_willis, password.
[01:19] <redheat> dpurgert, is there a way to take a ppa using command line..
[01:19] <TomyLobo> virtualbox will run
[01:19] <TomyLobo> but without hardware support
[01:19] <TomyLobo> i.e. with a lot more overhead than on more recent CPUs
[01:19] <dpurgert> yup, it just fakes the CPU to the virtual machine
[01:20] <TomyLobo> nope
[01:20] <dr_willis> Phisicist:  you can reset passwords. via a live cd. or the recovery item at boot time
[01:20] <yagmai> Why not use kvm?
[01:20] <redheat> is there a way to clear the cache..?
[01:20] <dr_willis> !password
[01:20] <TomyLobo> it actually sifts through the code as it's executed
[01:20] <dpurgert> so performance was terrible ... but a nice tradeoff was that I didn't nuke my main/running install
[01:20] <TomyLobo> replacing privileged instructions by calls to the hypervisor
[01:21] <Phisicist> dr_willis, Thank you!
[01:21] <sianhulo> I will die before installing kvm, 3kb/s
[01:21] <dpurgert> actually, the only system that had terrible performance was win 98 ... everything else I threw at it worked relatively well
[01:21] <TomyLobo> sianhulo have you settled on how to manage kvm yet?
[01:22] <yagmai> sianhulo: why?
[01:22] <TomyLobo> i recently used the libvirt-bin and virt-manager packages to set up a VM on a server. got it to run in like 10 minutes
[01:23] <dpurgert> redheat -- remove it from your apt sources
[01:23] <TomyLobo> it's remote manageable too
[01:23] <dpurgert> uh ... should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <TomyLobo> .d
[01:23] <redheat> I tried to open the software source but it won't open, isn't there a list of all the "ppa" right? where is that located?
[01:23] <TomyLobo> ppas are in sources.list.d
[01:23] <TomyLobo> (among other things)
[01:24] <TomyLobo> those arent all ppas. dont do any housecleaning there :)
[01:24] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, not at all, I will first install it, if  it finish anytime this month...
[01:24] <TomyLobo> only remove if you know what it is
[01:24] <TomyLobo> and dont forget to apt-get update
[01:24] <dr_willis> keep backups....
[01:24] <redheat> ok I got it TomyLobo..
[01:25] <TomyLobo> i think it will only read *.list, so you can just rename it to something other than .list
[01:25] <dpurgert> TomyLobo, yeah, he was just having trouble specifically with " /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_rvm_smplayer_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en"
[01:25] <sianhulo> talking about apt-get....we can no longer install aptitude?I tried after reinstalling today but couldn't
[01:25] <dpurgert> weird entry to have ... might just be a file sitting there actually
[01:26] <dr_willis> sianhulo: should be installable
[01:26] <TomyLobo> sianhulo uh something is fucked up
[01:27] <r5a> has anyone ever done a automated install of ubuntu server? as a lab experiment i want to spin up 12.04.1 server simply start the VM and it will get an image from an PXE server or something and automatally install with a generated hostname. anyone point me into the direction of tools and ill read through docs
[01:27] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, about me?
[01:27] <r5a> i want to try and get a puppet test env up from scratch
[01:27] <redheat> TomyLobo, I have sources.list and sources.list.save..no .d ..
[01:27] <TomyLobo> redheat it's a sub-directory
[01:28] <redheat> oh ok..I thought it was a hidden file..ok
[01:28] <dpurgert> redheat, check that your sources.list doesn't have an entry "/var/lib/apt/... " that it's complaining about
[01:28] <dr_willis> sources.list.d
[01:28] <TomyLobo> hidden files all start with a dot (.) :)
[01:28] <redheat> ok..thank you..
[01:29] <sianhulo> the internet failed
[01:29] <dpurgert> or that there's not something hiding in sources.list.d
[01:29] <dpurgert> sianhulo, seems to be working fine, since you're still here :)
[01:29] <sianhulo> said the terminal, starting to download kvm again
[01:30] <dpurgert> sianhulo, ouch ... that's never fun.
[01:30] <sianhulo> at least it is now downloading at 1/3 the speed it should, 40kb/s
[01:31] <dpurgert> sianhulo, whatcha mean "1/3 the speed it should"?
[01:32] <sianhulo> I have 1mb so it should download at a speed of 126kb/s, but it's stuck at 40kb/s(still better than the 3kb/s it was before)
[01:33] <dpurgert> sianhulo, not necessarily.
[01:33] <yagmai> sianhulo: what your country?
[01:33] <sianhulo> dpurgert, well, I said it SHOULD
[01:33] <sianhulo> yagmai, venezuela
[01:34] <yagmai> sianhulo: i am russian, but i living in brazil
[01:34] <sianhulo> yagmai, so you speak 3 languages?
[01:35] <dpurgert> sianhulo, no, it depends still. If they sell it to you the same way they do here (US), the verbiage is along the lines of "_up to_ xx mbps"
[01:35] <yagmai> yagmai: a little of portuguese, a little of english
[01:35] <yagmai> ops
[01:36] <yagmai> sianhulo: a little of portuguese, a little of english
[01:36] <gandsnut> Can I reinstall network-manager from installation DVD if my wicd is broken?
[01:36] <dpurgert> and anyway, downloads are still (generally) shown in bits/sec ... so you should be getting a couple hundred
[01:36] <sianhulo> dpurgert, here we don't have that kind of condition, it says literally 1mb. and it ain't precisely cheap, if we take the official(unreal) price of the dollar, it would be +30$ a month
[01:37] <sianhulo> 8bytes=1bit, if they were shown in bits then that'd be even worse
[01:37] <dpurgert> sianhulo, yeah, and my ISP says literally 30/5 ... but the thing is there are factors that knock it to slower... my home wireless, for example
[01:37] <yagmai> 1byte=8bits
[01:37] <dpurgert> sianhulo, you've got that backwards -- 8 bits in a byte :)
[01:38] <sianhulo> dpurgert, I have a router, but I have desktop so it is by ethernet cable(and the wifi is protected so...)
[01:39] <dpurgert> sianhulo, no -- my point was that the wireless I'm using is negatively impacting my speed. If i plug it in, then speedtests show "close enough"
[01:39] <sianhulo> dpurgert, yeah, you're right
[01:40] <sianhulo> dpurgert, then, what kind of wireless is interfering?
[01:42] <dpurgert> sianhulo, it's not "interfering" so much as slowing things down.  Router is older (linksys WRT54G...) and I really have no desire to upgrade it.  Anyway, I just ran a speed test out to Caracas, and I'm getting 3.8 / 0.9 mb/s
[01:43] <sianhulo> well, now i'm dowloading at 2~3kb/s again(installing the gui)
[01:44] <|JZ|> i am having a issue with rhythmbox .. every time i open it 5 seconds after it closes
[01:44] <dpurgert> sianhulo, where's the mirror you're trying to download this from? it could be that you're running into trouble because of where you're trying to get to
[01:44] <sianhulo> if you mean which server I am using, it's venezuelan
[01:45] <dpurgert> could be that they have a crap upload speed :)
[01:45] <|JZ|> http://pastebin.com/rMVEzFJC
[01:45] <sianhulo> |JZ|, you will have to bring logs(open it from terminal ad post what it says )
[01:46] <|JZ|> pastebin is log
[01:46] <|JZ|> when i rhythbox -D
[01:46] <|JZ|> rhythmbox -D
[01:46] <sianhulo> I don't really know, I would search the official ppa and update rhythmbox
[01:47] <|JZ|> http://pastebin.com/JjH8dB0d
[01:47] <|JZ|> i have latest verison even tried reinstalling
[01:47] <sianhulo> |JZ|, if that doesn't work and you can't find someone that know how to solve it I recommend you to try clementine....
[01:48] <dpurgert> sianhulo, have you tried a different mirror?
[01:48] <yagmai> |JZ|: removing the directory of config files of rhythmbox
[01:48] <dzragon> http://i.imgur.com/jgntNgu.jpg
[01:48] <asher^> hi, a colleage of mine is having trouble with his ubuntu desktop pc (12.04). when it boots, it ends up on a completely black screen. the pc worked fine yesterday and no changes were made as far as we know. we have tried removing the nvidia drivers so far, but that hasnt worked. anyone know how we might fix this?
[01:49] <sianhulo> dpurgert, not yet, would take a lot to update after that, I will try to get through kvm first
[01:49] <|JZ|> yagmai try deleting /.mtpz-data ?
[01:49] <dpurgert> dzragon, jerk :P
[01:49] <dzragon> ^^
[01:49] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:50] <sianhulo> dpurgert, need to relogin to be added to the group and see if i they it right, brb
[01:50] <dpurgert> dzragon, wish I lived in the first world when it came to the internet ...
[01:50] <asher^> dr_willis, we have set nomodeset also (found that online)
[01:50] <asher^> also to no avail
[01:50] <dr_willis> try older kernels from the grub menu
[01:50] <dr_willis> see if any work
[01:50] <dpurgert> currently the "best" package I can get from my ISP is 50/5  :(
[01:51] <asher^> will do, thanks
[01:52] <craigbass1976> I have no pulse... Just kidding, but I really can't get a signal into the computer from a mixing board.  It is a good signal (plugging headphones into the main out -- where the line going into the computer is --gives me sound) but won't register in the computer.
[01:52] <asher^> dr_willis, thanks, previous version worked. any idea what might have caused this issue and how to fix it?
[01:52] <|JZ|> i think i fixed it by - rm ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/ ~/.cache/rhythmbox/ ~/.gconf/apps/rhythmbox/ -r
[01:52] <dr_willis> asher^:  not really
[01:53] <dzragon> dpurgert: yeah, its kinda hard to go back to slower once youve had 100/100 for a while.
[01:53] <dr_willis> asher^:  could be a kernnel/driver combo bug
[01:53] <asher^> is there a way to see a list of recently install drivers?
[01:53] <asher^> as i said, this machine was working yesterday
[01:54] <craigbass1976> I'm changing my story-- I can hear sound, but don't see any VU meters lighting up.
[01:54] <yagmai> |JZ|: you got?
[01:54] <dpurgert> dzragon, I bet ... too bad the Corporate States of America are more concerned with what's best for big business and not the people...
[01:54] <|JZ|> yeah i ended up rm ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/ ~/.cache/rhythmbox/ ~/.gconf/apps/rhythmbox/ -r in terminal now it loaded up w/o closing
[01:54] <|JZ|> going to try reloading my libary
[01:55] <BWMerlin> I am having an issue where some hyperlinks will open in chrome even though I have set firefox as the default
[01:55] <craigbass1976> Bah...  My computer is haunted.  It's fine now...
[01:56] <dpurgert> craigbass1976, they were serious when they told you not to feed Gizmo after midnight, or get him wet.
[01:56] <dr_willis> just dont feed him while hes wet after midnight
[01:56] <sianhulo> dpurgert, I installed the thing but the gui says that I haven't installed kvm so it could be slower
[01:56] <craigbass1976> dpurgert, that's funny you mention that...  I was just suggesting to someone that we play frisbee today with a saw blade.  He wouldn't let me go first...
[01:57] <yagmai> |JZ|: if the problem back, can be your library defective.
[01:57] <sianhulo> I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation so I don't know what could have possible go wrong
[01:57] <sianhulo> I'm gonna buy some bread so i'll be afk a few minutes
[01:57] <dpurgert> craigbass1976, kids these days ... we used to be given _rusty_ sawblades to play frisbee with ... and we LIKED it!
[01:58] <barrett> whats a good pastebin type site for posting screenshots?
[01:58] <yagmai> barrett: img.ly is good. IMHO
[01:58] <barrett> thx
[01:59] <TomyLobo> ug.ly
[01:59] <dr_willis> or.ly?
[01:59] <TomyLobo> both exist
[01:59] <yagmai> TomyLobo: it is a blog.
[01:59] <yagmai> :)
[02:00] <TomyLobo> like apparently half the pages on the net
[02:00] <asher^> is there a way to roll back updates that were automatically installed?
[02:00] <TomyLobo> yar.ly is available
[02:00] <dpurgert> better than back in the 90s when half the pages on the net were crappy geocities (et. al.) sites
[02:00] <yagmai> TomyLobo: no, 75% are blogs.
[02:01] <TomyLobo> yagmai => half the pages are blogs
[02:01] <TomyLobo> i didnt make any assertions about the other half :)
[02:02] <yagmai> TomyLobo: yes, you are right.
[02:02] <craigbass1976> Oh wait...  I've got sound, but the VU meter in Pulse gets stuck when I change it.  Anyone else seen that?
[02:02] <yagmai> :)
[02:02] <craigbass1976> dpurgert, dude, we're old...
[02:02] <craigbass1976> I aw that in the theater
[02:02] <TomyLobo> sianhulo why do you go the hard way? :)
[02:03] <TomyLobo> apt-get install libvirt-bin on the server, apt-get install virt-manager on the client
[02:03] <guideX> I ran out of disk space, so i expanded the drive in vbox, now I want ubuntu to see the free space, how do I do it
[02:03] <dpurgert> craigbass1976, well, then you've got me beat by a few years ... I'll get off your lawn now
[02:03] <TomyLobo> that'll pull in qemu-kvm as a recommended package automatically
[02:03] <KI4RO> Anyone know how to adjust the mouse scroll wheel in Ubuntu?
[02:03] <TomyLobo> (on the server)
[02:03] <dr_willis> guideX:  usw gparted to resize the fs  via a live cd, normally
[02:03] <TomyLobo> then just connect to the server with virt-manager and create a VM
[02:04] <guideX> oh you can't do it from 12.10?
[02:04] <guideX> hmm
[02:04] <TomyLobo> but really, for just testing stuff, why kvm and not virtualbox?
[02:04] <guideX> crap
[02:04] <dr_willis>  you dont resize an In use filesystem
[02:04] <guideX> well sometimes the filesystem will reboot to change the disk
[02:04] <guideX> or is there a way to do it during boot
[02:04] <dr_willis> unless you are messing with lvm ;) i  think
[02:04] <TomyLobo> the operating system, you mean?
[02:05] <TomyLobo> the file system is a piece of data on your disk
[02:05] <craigbass1976> dpurgert, heh...
[02:05] <kunji> KI4RO: For Firefox or for everything?
[02:05] <dr_willis> boot a ubuntu live cd in vbox. use it to resize the instslled systems hd
[02:05] <guideX> hmm ok
[02:05] <dr_willis> make backups befor trying it
[02:06] <KI4RO> kunji, Saw the one for Firefox but don't see the params in my config file, but everything would be great too
[02:06] <RyanD> good evening all :).
[02:06] <TomyLobo> virtual machines: where a backup of the entire disk is possible with a non-recursive cp
[02:07] <craigbass1976> Nothat we've established I'm older, I'd like to date myself some more.  The whole reason I was trying to get audio into my computer is because I need some lectures I have on CASSETTE to be on my mp3 player.  Once I've got them on the computer, what's the best app for slicing them up into shorter tracks?  Can I do this if the file I initially create is ogg?
[02:07] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, which is the easy way?
[02:07] <kunji> KI4RO: Which params, which config file?  I'm not sure how for everything, I thought I saw it at one point, but i haven't been able to find it again.  For Firefox, if you got to about:config in the browser and tell it you'll be careful, search for mousewheel and there are many options to play with.
[02:07] <TomyLobo> sianhulo i described it
[02:08] <lastleo85> folks which the best alternative to dreamweaver?
[02:08] <RyanD> hghjghjghj'
[02:08] <lastleo85> in ubuntu
[02:08] <kunji> craigbass1976: Audacity is pretty good, I don't remember for sure, but it will probably handle ogg
[02:08] <TomyLobo> craigbass1976 i found mp3cut
[02:08] <TomyLobo> or cutmp3?
[02:08] <dpurgert> craigbass1976, what's a cassette? ;) ... quick google search comes up with "audacity"
[02:08] <TomyLobo> either way, it's in apt-file
[02:08] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, sorry, I was out buying bread, will check
[02:09] <TomyLobo> sianhulo i described it after telling you you're using the hard way
[02:09] <kunji> craigbass1976: Even if it doesn't do ogg though, Audacity can handle both the recording and editing.
[02:09] <craigbass1976> dpurgert, I've got a record player downstairs -- some Hendrix, Zeppelin, and some Oscar Peterson Trio that I think is out of print...
[02:09] <guideX> can I increase the disk size from the copy of the virtual disk?
[02:10] <craigbass1976> kunji, TomyLobo dpurgert thanks
[02:10] <dpurgert> lastleo85, gedit; vi; emacs; nano...
[02:10] <TomyLobo> craigbass1976 package poc-streamer, executable mp3cut
[02:10] <guideX> like boot into the smaller original disk with the newer bigger copy attached as well, and resize it that way
[02:10] <KI4RO> kunji, There's supposed to be a param that says mousewheel.withnokey which I cannot find
[02:10] <TomyLobo> there seems to be a "qmp3cut" in the quelcom package. no idea what that does, but the name suggests it's a gui app
[02:10] <kunji> craigbass1976: Also it's cross platform, so you don't need to learn something different for windows ^_^
[02:10] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, apt says I already have it
[02:11] <TomyLobo> sianhulo which one?
[02:11] <guideX> also how do I pin items to the quick launch bar
[02:11] <gandsnut> Is it possible to reinstall from DVD and not loose system config / data?  (12.10)
[02:11] <kunji> KI4RO:Hmm, what's the parameter supposed to do?  And where did you hear it's supposed to be there, maybe it doesn't exist anymore.
[02:11] <dpurgert> craigbass1976 ... I think I saw one of those in a museum once :)  though, TBH, I do like the sound of records more than CDs ... but I suppose that could be because the few people that I know who still listen to records are audiophiles
[02:11] <craigbass1976> kunji, perish the though -- I don't use that silly OS.  I am getting ready to set up an XP box, but just so my kids can play a bunch of the games I had down in the basement
[02:11] <sianhulo> TomyLobo,  both
[02:11] <TomyLobo> sianhulo good. run virt-manager then
[02:11] <KI4RO> kunji, http://browsers.about.com/od/firef2/ht/How-To-Fix-Firefox-4-Mouse-Scrolling-Bug.htm
[02:11] <craigbass1976> next to my recod player
[02:11] <xangua> depends if you make a partition for home or not gandsnut
[02:11] <xangua> did*
[02:12] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, that's what told me i am missing kvm
[02:12] <KI4RO> kunji, Similar to another site I found
[02:12] <kunji> craigbass1976: Well, that's why I'm still dual booting, games... and silverlight because my school only uses that for letting us view lectures...
[02:12] <gandsnut> xangua:  no separate partition for /home
[02:12] <yagmai> gandsnut: yes, is possible. The ubuntu ask you about this.
[02:12] <craigbass1976> kunji, isn't MS stopping with Silverlight?  I thought I'd read that a few months ago
[02:12] <TomyLobo> sianhulo can you make sure you have qemu-kvm installed on the server?
[02:13] <kunji> craigbass1976: I hope so, it might force them to use something else
[02:13] <lastleo85> dpurgert like dreamweaver, am used to it now
[02:13] <RyanD> Dreamweaver, yikes.
[02:14] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, I have it
[02:14] <xangua> gandsnut: then you know the answer is no :) make a backup and reinstall if is what you want
[02:14] <kunji> KI4RO:Are you actually using firefox 4?
[02:14] <TomyLobo> sianhulo now or before?
[02:14] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, nw and before
[02:14] <KI4RO> kunji, Actually not...just realized how old that is!
[02:14] <TomyLobo> ok, what exactly does virt-manager tell you when it starts up?
[02:14] <craigbass1976> kunji, what's something you could run on a linux box for streaming lectures?  And is that only live, or on demand?  I've only done audio (http://www.doopensource.com/applications/stream-audio-with-ubuntu/)
[02:15] <dpurgert> lastleo85, I don't think there's "directly" a replacement* (e.g. gimp to photoshop) ...  been a while since I've used it (high school ... and that was when it was still Macromedia) ...
[02:15] <gandsnut> Can I install network-manager (and associated) packages from DVD?  My wicd is broken and cannot connect to 'Net.
[02:15] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, nothing, the message coems when creating a virtual machine, it warns me(no pop-up)that I don't kvm and it might be slow
[02:15] <TomyLobo> sianhulo do "sudo adduser yourname libvirtd"
[02:15] <Physicist> !password
[02:16] <xangua> gandsnut: yes, go to software center, edit, sources and in the very fist tab enable the cd as source
[02:16] <TomyLobo> sianhulo uhm were you the guy with the old cpu?
[02:16] <gandsnut> xangua:  thx for the suggest
[02:16] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, I already did it, before didn't it there would appear a popup telling me there was some error at startup, so it have to be something else
[02:17] <xangua> cd/dvd, doesn't matter gandsnut; then ypu put the cd and reload repositories (with software center or apt-get update)
[02:17] <TomyLobo> sianhulo lsmod | grep kvm
[02:17] <kunji> craigbass1976: Well, for streaming a silverlight lecture, nothing, they use features that moonlight doesn't support yet.  Generally speaking, vlc will handle streaming, it also has a browser plugin.  If the school wasn't paranoid about people downloading lectures, then they could just put them on the site as files and they would be streamable or downloadable.  These are recorded lectures because you can do the classes online (except for int
[02:18] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, no output
[02:18] <TomyLobo> you're missing the kvm module and maybe the kvm_intel module
[02:18] <KI4RO> kunji, Playing with about:config right now
[02:18] <TomyLobo> not sure if that's just for hw virt
[02:19] <TomyLobo> sianhulo did you restart since?
[02:19] <KI4RO> kunji, Looks different that what I googled, but should be able to make some changes there...thanks
[02:19] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, yep
[02:19] <TomyLobo> hmmm
[02:20] <TomyLobo> "modprobe kvm"?
[02:20] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, for now I will look to migrate the vmware os to kvm and try
[02:20] <kunji> KI4RO: Mmk, let us know if it doesn't do what you want and we'll try an find another solution, someone else must know how to change it for everything as well, that person just isn't me :P
[02:20] <sianhulo> "FATAL: Error inserting kvm (/lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm.ko): Operation not permitted"(using sudo I get no output)
[02:21] <dr_willis> no output  = it worked  normally
[02:21] <TomyLobo> "lsmod | grep kvm" again
[02:21] <KI4RO> kunji, Ha....seems like it should be built in to the OS, but apparently not...take care...Go Ravens!
[02:21] <guideX> is there anything I can do about the extremely slow unity performance?
[02:21] <craigbass1976> kunji, numb...
[02:21] <guideX> it takes like 2-4 minutes to type the word terminal in the dash textbox
[02:21] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, kvm                   357807  0
[02:22] <guideX> or if there were an icon for the terminal...
[02:22] <TomyLobo> neat
[02:22] <TomyLobo> sianhulo intel cpu right?
[02:22] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, yes, sir
[02:22] <TomyLobo> try "modprobe kvm_intel" too
[02:22] <TomyLobo> possibly kvm-intel
[02:22] <TomyLobo> put probably kvm_intel
[02:23] <sianhulo> TomyLobo, "FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported"(with and without sudo)
[02:23] <yagmai> your CPU supports hardware virtualization?
[02:23] <TomyLobo> sianhulo that is unlikely
[02:24] <TomyLobo> not supported or not permitted?
[02:24] <TomyLobo> yagmai very likely not
[02:24] <guideX> what's the keyboard shortcut to bring up terminal
[02:24] <TomyLobo> yagmai it's a 1st or 2nd generation core
[02:25] <yagmai> To run KVM, you need a processor that supports hardware virtualization.
[02:25] <yagmai> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[02:25] <usr13> guideX: Ctrl-ALt-t
[02:25] <gmachine_24> egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[02:26] <sianhulo> so I did just waste time?
[02:26] <yagmai> i think it will not run
[02:26] <TomyLobo> i didnt recommend him to use kvm. i wasnt aware of that limitation
[02:27] <yagmai> sianhulo: probably
[02:28] <TomyLobo> at least not as much as with setting up kvm manually :)
[02:28] <sianhulo> I think it can run, and it think it just warning that it could be slow
[02:28] <TomyLobo> try it and see
[02:28] <sianhulo> for now I think the better thing to try is to migrate the os
[02:29] <TomyLobo> to what?
[02:29] <TomyLobo> to the VM that you dont know works?
[02:29] <sianhulo> but it is vmx, I suppose that I oughta do something to be capable of booting it
[02:29] <yagmai> sianhulo: you are right -> You can still run virtual machines, but it'll be much slower without the KVM extensions.
[02:29] <yagmai> in the same document: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[02:30] <guideX> ok so how do I resize the disk? It has a linux swap partition "in the way"
[02:30] <Node231> I love you guis
[02:30] <guideX> so there's the main partition, the swap partition, then the free space, and I can't seem to take advantage of the freespace
[02:30] <dr_willis> guideX:  you may need to remove the swap and resize, then add one back, that would be the easiesst way
[02:31] <guideX> ah ok
[02:32] <guideX> also once you're in the dash menu, how do you get out of it
[02:32] <guideX> clicking it again, or hitting the x doesn't do it
[02:33] <TomyLobo> what's a dash menu again?
[02:33] <guideX> hmm the ..
[02:33] <TomyLobo> kde user here :D
[02:33] <guideX> the really slow place
[02:33] <guideX> where it takes like 10 minutes to type the word terminal
[02:33] <purplerain> Hai. i still can't get broadcom bcm4313 to work, i tried with both proprietary wl and the open source brcmsmac driver but none of it is working. screenshot http://pix.ergy.me/u/giri/m/ffffff/ and supposed to be like this http://pix.ergy.me/u/giri/m/snapshot1/.
[02:35] <usr13> !b43 | purplerain
[02:36] <TomyLobo> purplerain i have all kinds of bad experience with the kde4 knetworkmanager. if that factoid doesnt help you try replacing it by wicd
[02:36] <TomyLobo> it's a bit rougher around the edges but not much
[02:36] <TomyLobo> and it works :)
[02:36] <TomyLobo> it really just the looks that are rougher
[02:36] <gmachine_24> purplerain, can you use the b43-fwcutter?
[02:37] <TomyLobo> it's*
[02:37] <kambuz> hey
[02:37] <yagmai> purplerain: i have a bcm4313.
[02:38] <yagmai> i install it using the bcmwl-kernel-source package
[02:39] <guideX> lol I gave up and am going for a reinstall
[02:40] <guideX> third time today
[02:40]  * dr_willis has no idea what guidex;s original issue was
[02:40] <usr13> purplerain: iwconfig
[02:40] <guideX> can't figure out how to resize virtualbox vm disk
[02:41] <guideX> ubuntu
[02:41] <civixier> Okay, after some googling I give up. So I installed kubuntu from Windows via the Windows installer. Now, is there any way I can do a fresh install and get rid of Windows from inside this small Kubuntu partition without any external media at all?
[02:41] <Pazooza> Install Tools.
[02:41] <dr_willis> with gparte it would bethe same  as if it was a real disk ;)
[02:41] <dr_willis> guideX:  why do you need to resize it?
[02:41] <guideX> it ran out of space
[02:41] <dr_willis> guideX:  you do realize you could of just added a new virtual hard drive to the vbox instance?
[02:41] <pidgin_user> anybody knows about connecting an ipcamera to internet?
[02:42] <purplerain> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1599251/
[02:42] <guideX> yeah but the system disk was out of space
[02:42] <dr_willis> and how big did you make the / ?
[02:42] <guideX> I started with 15 gb
[02:42] <guideX> but was just gonna be a simple dev box for php with lamp
[02:42] <archduke> hewow room
[02:42] <guideX> that's all i'm after :(
[02:43] <guideX> unfortunetly i've been fooling around and wrestling this unity crap all day
[02:43] <guideX> it's so unbelievabely slow
[02:43] <dr_willis> for a dev box.. you dont really need a desktop.
[02:43] <dr_willis> or just use lubuntu
[02:43] <dr_willis> or just ssh into the vm
[02:43] <guideX> yeah but i'm not real good in the terminal
[02:43] <usr13> purplerain: sudo iwconfig essid your-APs-essid
[02:43] <|JZ|> yagmai what program you told me to try?
[02:44] <|JZ|> i cant seem to load my libary into rhythmbox now
[02:44] <usr13> purplerain: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid your-APs-essid && dhclient wlan0
[02:44] <dr_willis> since unity uses 3d effects.. you would be better off using lubuntu on that vbox setup
[02:44] <guideX> hmm ok
[02:44] <usr13> purplerain: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid your-APs-essid && sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:46] <dr_willis> you could add a 2nd vbox hd.. put the swap on it.. then it should be rather trivial to resize the existing / partion via booting an gparted live cd.
[02:46] <yagmai> |JZ|: it show some error when load the library?
[02:46] <|JZ|> no
[02:46] <guideX> I tried to do that, but the swap was in the way
[02:46] <guideX> so I tried to unswap
[02:46] <guideX> then the whole pc froze
[02:46] <guideX> and I got mad and deleted it
[02:46] <dr_willis> swap might have been in use. ;)
[02:47] <guideX> well I was in the cd
[02:47] <guideX> livecd
[02:47] <|JZ|> yagmai i go to music> add music 2.98 isnt the same it scans folder now
[02:47] <yagmai> |JZ|: without logs too?
[02:47] <dr_willis> the live cd might have seen and used the swap partition
[02:47] <guideX> lol
[02:47] <dr_willis> the swapoff command would disable swap
[02:47] <guideX> i see ok
[02:47] <dr_willis> of course if you deleted the partion.. it should be gone now
[02:48] <guideX> well I mean I deleted the whole thing...
[02:48] <guideX> the vm heh
[02:48] <guideX> starting over instead with 30 gb drive
[02:48] <yagmai> |JZ|: and in Music -> Import folder?
[02:48] <dr_willis> theres no reason to not use a huge hd.. :) if you use that space option.. the thing will enlarge as needed
[02:48] <usr13> dr_willis: I wonder if it would use swapspace as a holding tank for moving files?
[02:48] <guideX> the first attempt, I installed virtualbox guest tools, and it never booted again.. the 2nd, it would boot into ubuntu, and run for like 5 minutes before displaying a bunch of funny colors and characters
[02:49] <guideX> so far been 9 hours and counting just trying to get some lamp going :(
[02:49] <dr_willis> i think the live ubuntu cd - does use swap partions if  they are seen..   i beluve the gparted live ccd does NOT auto mount swap
[02:50] <|JZ|> yagmai that option is not in 2.98
[02:50] <|JZ|> going try to downgrade to 2.97
[02:50] <yagmai> |JZ|: try CTRL+O
[02:50] <usr13> I always use gparted liveCD
[02:51] <dr_willis> most likely you donmt want to be using unity in vbox. lubuntu or just  a bassic window manager will work for a lamp dev box.
[02:51] <|JZ|> ctrl + o goes into that same shit .. scanning the folder
[02:52] <yagmai> |JZ|: try import another folder
[02:52] <|JZ|> no folder works
[02:52] <|JZ|> just stays scanning
[02:53] <yagmai> |JZ|: o_o
[02:53] <yagmai> |JZ|: try downgrade
[02:53] <|JZ|> yah going to try that now
[02:53] <TomyLobo> [03:51:03] <dr_willis> most likely you donmt want to be using unity  <-- important part :D
[02:54] <dr_willis> unity works very well for me
[02:54] <roger21> hello, from the ubuntu installer i have severals choice for the keyboard layout for my language, can i know what choise will match which actuall keymap for the console and for X?
[02:54] <dr_willis> when you have used as many differnt desktppps and os's as i have.. the actual desktop dosent matter much
[02:55] <roger21> is there a simple file that connect the dots ?
[02:55] <roger21> i gess not but a direction at least?
[02:55] <dr_willis> roger21:  you men you dont know what language your keyboard is?
[02:56] <dr_willis> hhow many variants are there? ;) ive never really noticed  that part of a keyboard..
[02:56] <guideX> well i'm glad it works for you
[02:56] <TomyLobo> for many languages there's also a dvorak variant
[02:56] <usr13> dr_willis: I use the apps, the DE only helps me get to the apps.  The DE that is most effecient, quick and stays out of the way, gets my vote.
[02:57] <purplerain> usr13: i dont get any output running sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid your-APs-essid && sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:57] <TomyLobo> and then there are sometimes latin/native script variants
[02:57] <roger21> no, i have several layout for my language because there is different keymap project (the "official" keymap is pretty poor)
[02:57] <guideX> I also tried it on my desktop at some point with a graphics accellerator, with very similar results
[02:57] <roger21> there are*
[02:57] <guideX> slow and non usable
[02:57] <usr13> purplerain: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:57] <guideX> the nvidia gforce gt610 video
[02:57] <dr_willis> unity works well on my low end notebooks to my modrange desktop.
[02:58] <guideX> but I suppose it doesn't have the drivers..
[02:58] <dr_willis> using a  2 yr+ old nvidia card
[02:58] <purplerain> usr13: wlan0     No scan results
[02:58] <dr_willis> if you want lighter/old skool - try lubuntu
[02:58] <dr_willis> it works very well on my netbooks
[02:59] <usr13> purplerain: Did you actually run that command as posted?  "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid your-APs-essid && sudo dhclient wlan0"  If so, iwconfig |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[02:59] <guideX> I had some success with the gnome ui earlier.. but it was a pain to install it
[02:59] <guideX> it was one of the vm's which didn't work out
[02:59] <usr13> purplerain: Or just paste results, let's see.
[02:59] <roger21> so i was wondering if i choose one or the other choice for the layout, if i can know what actuall keymap are used for console and for X
[03:00] <roger21> i have i have about 5 choice eliminating the obvious not matching (dvorak, macsun, etc)
[03:00] <Sach> Is there any ubuntu software that can remove watermarks from a pdf?
[03:00] <yagmai> purplerain: you tried the bcmwl-kernel-source package?
[03:01] <usr13> yagmai: It appears that his wifi device is working.
[03:01] <yagmai> my bcm4313 only ork with this
[03:01] <purplerain> usr13: yes i did run the command as posted
[03:01] <purplerain> yagmai: thats the proprietary wl driver yes? if yes it is also not working :/
[03:01] <usr13> purplerain: "your-APs-essid" was supposed to be replaced by your APs essid.
[03:02] <usr13> purplerain: What is the essid of your AP?
[03:02] <purplerain> usr13: my bad, how do i know?
[03:03] <usr13> purplerain: Have you ever connected to it before?  (If so, you would have see it.  Sometimes refered to as "Network Name".)
[03:03] <mogaj> While trying to file a Google chrome plugin crash to ubuntu i got this error .... http://pastebin.com/hMWR1Wzi .... can someone tell what i should do?
[03:03] <yagmai> my bcm4313 only work with this, but the same kernel version
[03:04] <guideX> also what's a good svn for unity ui?
[03:04] <usr13> purplerain: Or if your phone is connected to it, you'll see it in wifi settings.
[03:04] <usr13> purplerain: Or, if you login to your router's GUI configuration and look at Wireless Settings, you'll see it there as well.
[03:05] <purplerain> usr13: i currently use a usb modem, i dont know where to look :/
[03:06] <usr13> purplerain: The ESSID is the identifying name of an 802.11b wireless network. By specifying the ESSID in your client setup is how you make sure that you connect to *your* wireless network instead of your neighbors network by mistake.
[03:07] <usr13> purplerain: You *do* have a Wireless Network.  Right?
[03:07] <purplerain> usr13: yes
[03:08] <usr13> purplerain: And you do *not* know the essid?
[03:08] <yagmai> purplerain: what your kernel version? (uname -r)
[03:08] <purplerain> usr13: but now i am in Uni area
[03:08] <purplerain> yagmai: 3.5 quantal bakport lts
[03:08] <usr13> purplerain: What is a "Uni area"?
[03:09] <purplerain> usr13: campus area, sorry
[03:09] <yagmai> purplerain: 3.5.0-17-generic?
[03:09] <purplerain> yagmai: 3.5.0-22-generic
[03:09] <usr13> purplerain: Oh, ok.  Well, can you get any connection information from faculty or class mate?
[03:10] <yagmai> purplerain: and what your headers version? (dpkg -l | egrep linux-headers)
[03:10] <usr13> purplerain: Such as essid and encryption type and password or passphprase?  etc....
[03:11] <usr13> purplerain: Or is it in the Student Handbook?
[03:12] <Pilif12p> I can't seem to get my bluetooth adapter working...
[03:12] <purplerain> usr13: it;s just use a simple password
[03:12] <Pilif12p> It's an Intel Centrino 6230, wifi works, BT does not.
[03:12] <|JZ|> yagmai i cant downgrade to 2.97
[03:12] <|JZ|> i just installed clementine and called it a day
[03:12] <|JZ|> i gave up on rhythmbox
[03:13] <yagmai> :(
[03:13] <|JZ|> couldnt find 2.97
[03:13] <purplerain> yagmai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1599298/
[03:19] <yagmai> purplerain: you have "pre-release update" option enable?
[03:21] <KI4RO> kunji, Found an extension for FireFox called yet another smooth scrolling  works well and easily adjustable...at least in FireFox
[03:22] <KI4RO> kunji, Not an extension, an add on
[03:22] <purplerain> yagmai: no, why?
[03:23] <KI4RO> kunji, Here:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/yet-another-smooth-scrolling/
[03:23] <acovrig> I'm trying to use rhythmbox-client and I get 'couldn't get app startup state' if I use --debug and any other command, any idea how to fix it?
[03:23] <yagmai> purplerain: my kernel version is 3.5.0-17-generic, and is updated
[03:24] <yagmai> weird
[03:25] <purplerain> yagmai: ohh maybe its just your archive mirror that is a bit oudtaed.
[03:25] <yagmai> purplerain: maybe
[03:25] <Ben64> 3.5 > 3.2
[03:26] <yagmai> purplerain: purge all headers and bcmwl-kernel-source package.
[03:26] <yagmai> purplerain: and install the bcmwl-kernel-source package again.
[03:26] <yagmai> for me work.
[03:26] <ae86-drifter_> could somebody please help me troubleshoot my internet connection? here's my ifconfig output here: http://pastebin.com/6FmcVxyn  I cannot ping any public IPs or hosts
[03:26] <yagmai> maybe work for you
[03:29] <purplerain> yagmai: hopefully
[03:30] <ae86-drifter_> I am running ubuntu server 12.10, the machine has two physical nics, i've followed all guides on the ubuntu website and still not working,
[03:32] <purplerain> yagmai: also ill report back after lunch. if you or usr13 still on the channel. thanks
[03:33] <yagmai> puikula: ;-)
[03:38] <redheat> dr_willis, dpurgert, TomyLobo, this one is for you guys, thank you so much for helping me I finally found the answer to my problem...check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12006060   Thank you so much for your help thank you so much ...
[03:38] <redheat> Now I can Update my whole system and Merge List problem, or ppa problems thank you so much ..
[03:39] <redheat> and I installed aptitude too, I already had it running on Mint, so thank you again guys..
[03:41] <ae86-drifter_> could anyone please help me fix my internet? i've been trying for a long time
[03:42] <douglas> hola
[03:42] <cq> hola duglas
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !es|douglas,
[03:43] <alexdeath> hola
[03:44] <alexdeath> hola
[03:46] <yagmai> here in brazil, hole is dick
[03:46] <yagmai> :)
[03:46] <yagmai> ops, hola
[03:49] <reiligha> Hi. I was trying to change my ssh settings to not permit root login, but I did not find the line PermitRootLogin yes in my ssh_config file. I'm using 12.04 LTS
[03:50] <cfhowlett> reiligha, great question for #ubuntu-server!
[03:50] <reiligha> cfhowlett Thank you!
[03:50] <cfhowlett> reiligha, no worries.
[03:50] <ae86-drifter_> could somebody please help me troubleshoot my internet connection? here's my ifconfig output here: http://pastebin.com/6FmcVxyn  I cannot ping any public IPs or hosts... I am running ubuntu server 12.10, the machine has two physical nics, i've followed all guides on the ubuntu website and still not working. I have set static addresses and other machines on the same subnet are working fine, just not this ubuntu-server...
[03:51] <cfhowlett> ae86-drifter_, possible another candidate for the #ubuntu-server crowd
[03:51] <ae86-drifter_> ffffff
[03:51] <ae86-drifter_> cfhowlett: thanks lol
[03:51] <cfhowlett> ae86-drifter_, good luck
[03:54] <ae86-drifter_> cfhowlett: thanks, hopefully someone in there can help
[03:57] <reiligha> Another question: In my auth.log I noticed several times that a standard account was getting su permissions, at a time when I was not at my PC. How freaked out should I be?
[04:00] <Sach> If to install a file, I use "a+x /home/AdbeRdr9.5.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin", then how do I delete it?
[04:03] <RyanD> Recommendations on a package / set of packages here: Running a basic site on a VPS for a client. They want mail forwarded from example@clientsite.com to @example@gmail.com, easiest way to set this up?
[04:03] <RyanD> err, to example@gmail.com, ignore the preceding @. standard email address, lol.
[04:04] <RyanD> (12.04 LTS, if it matters).
[04:07] <Sach> If to install a file, I use "a+x /home/AdbeRdr9.5.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin", then how do I delete it?
[04:08] <RyanD> rm /path.
[04:08] <RyanD> rm -R to delete a directory and everything inside of it. rmdir to remove a directory.
[04:10] <dr_willis> Sach: you mean uninstall the app it installed?
[04:10] <Sach> dr_willis: yes
[04:10] <n0sq> anyone know why firefox doesn't work properly at walmart.com when trying to change store locations?
[04:10] <dr_willis> rerun the installer and see uf it has an option
[04:11] <Sach> dr_willis: you mean, re-run "a+x /home/AdbeRdr9.5.3-1_i486linux_enu.bin" ?
[04:11] <n0sq> doesn't work right in windows either
[04:11] <dr_willis> ./whatever.bin --help    may show any options
[04:11] <dr_willis> no need to rechmod it...
[04:12] <Sach> dr_willis: do I need to include the directory?
[04:12] <dr_willis> if its not un the current directour you do
[04:13] <RyanD> i make it a best practice to always include the path as an argument for these types of things
[04:14] <RyanD> IE, use . if using current dir.
[04:14] <Sach> dr_willis: I did ran that, but it only gives me install options.
[04:15] <dr_willis> check its homepage and docs.  it may not have an uninstall featurel
[04:15] <Sach> dr_willis: really?  This is Adobe acrobat Reader 7
[04:15] <dr_willis> or ut may just ask.. if you rerun the installer
[04:16] <dr_willis> so its adobe...... one of the most linux unfriendly companies out.......  your point is?
[04:16] <phunyguy> I cannot for the life of me get this Windows 8 tablet to boot a Ubuntu live environment.  It doesn't even try.
[04:17] <RyanD> am I missing something?
[04:17] <phunyguy> I have a USB CD drive, because my USB stick is missing, and that is first in the boot order.
[04:17] <RyanD> Why is rm -R not working for you?
[04:17] <RyanD> err, just RM.
[04:17] <dr_willis> he wants to UNINSTALL the app.. not remove the .bin
[04:17] <RyanD> oh
[04:18] <RyanD> how did he install it in the first place?
[04:18] <RyanD> he said delete, not uninstall....
[04:18] <dr_willis> ./foo.bin
[04:18] <dr_willis> he also said he ran the command  'a+x'   :) but thts not avalid  command either
[04:19] <dr_willis> binary installers - normally have some uninstsall option... but they could do most anything.. and are best avoideed
[04:22] <RyanD> heh.
[04:22] <RyanD> quite.
[04:23] <Sach> dr_willis: I'll have you know that this Adobe  product proved to be incredibly easy to remove.  Actually easier than items in the repository.  Only one click required :)  Thank you for your help.
[04:23] <dr_willis> one click where?
[04:23] <phunyguy> OH fer cryin' out loud.  OK I have secure-boot disabled in UEFI, I TELL it to boot from USB CD Drive, and Windows 8 detected the drive with the disc inserted, it reboots, accesses the CD for a bit, then just puts me back in Windows 8.  This is getting old fast.
[04:23] <roger21> hi, i never know if i'd better use apt or aptitude (for update and basic install stuff)
[04:24] <roger21> i know it nowt always been the same, at some time aptitude was recommended, but i think it changed back, doesn't it?
[04:24] <dr_willis> one click where? it actually made an Uninstall icon in the menus?
[04:25] <Sach> dr_willis: when I initially ran the installer, it created a folder in a specified location.  All I needed to do was right click and select "uninstall".  But thanks for the warning about binary files! Will take note!
[04:25] <PatrickDickey> Sach: did you try dpkg --list | grep acro to find out which package name it installed by? (acroreader-enu or acroread) then sudo apt-get remove that package?
[04:25] <dr_willis> right click where?
[04:25] <dr_willis> somthing seems confused htere
[04:25] <Sach> on the folder called "Adobe"
[04:25] <roger21> is there a bot here?
[04:26] <dr_willis> err.... you sure you dont mean to say you  'deleted' the /opt/adobe  directory or somthing like that?
[04:26] <roger21> for asking him frequent question
[04:26] <PatrickDickey> roger21: yes, ubottu is here. He's a friendly bot.
[04:26] <dr_willis> !she
[04:26] <phunyguy> !apt
[04:26] <Sach> dr_willis: yes, sure.  An uninstalled window popped up and loaded to 100%.
[04:27] <mangdood> Hi, I tried installing a package with a lot of dependencies but I'm finding it difficult to reverse the installation. How can I do it?
[04:27] <roger21> so apt then
[04:27] <roger21> that's fine
[04:27] <dr_willis> Sach:  i dont see how a folder had an 'uninstall' option at all.. which would be very differnt then deleteing a folder.
[04:28] <phunyguy> mangdood, apt-get purge {package}
[04:28] <PatrickDickey> mangdood: sudo apt-get remove packagename or sudo apt-get purge packagename (purge removes configuration files also)
[04:28] <phunyguy> (with sudo of course)
[04:28] <dr_willis> but it could be a language barrier thing. ;)
[04:28] <roger21> is default grub on 12.04 grub2 or grub1?
[04:28] <roger21> !grub
[04:28] <dr_willis> rog grub2
[04:28] <roger21> oh
[04:28] <Sach> dr_willis: indeed. uninstalling and deleting are quite different.
[04:28] <mangdood> For some reason, it's not getting rid of the dependencies at the same time
[04:28] <mangdood> @ phunyguy and PatrickDickey
[04:29] <roger21> i want to install lilo
[04:29] <roger21> !lilo
[04:29] <dr_willis> roger21 why?
[04:29] <PatrickDickey> mangdood, after it's removed, if the dependencies aren't needed for something else, they'll show up as unecessary, and you can use sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of them.
[04:30] <roger21> because the last time i tested a grub2 instal it was super ugly
[04:30] <phunyguy> autoremove, thats what it was.
[04:30] <PatrickDickey> roger21: in what way?
[04:30] <mangdood> PatrickDickey: I tried apt-get purge gnome* but it says nothing about "unneeded packages"
[04:30] <dr_willis> ugly? You mean you dident like the way the menu looked?
[04:30] <roger21> and i can set up a niccegraphical boot with lilo
[04:30] <dr_willis> such a great reasson to pick a bootloader... ;)
[04:30] <PatrickDickey> mangdood did you reboot afterwards?
[04:30] <roger21> yeah that, even having a menu is ugly (you can make it deaseaper in lilo)
[04:30] <phunyguy> nothing funky about my ubuntu bootloader...
[04:31] <phunyguy> I see no menu
[04:31] <dr_willis> there are grub2 variants that are 100x more themeable then lilo ever was
[04:31] <dr_willis> what was that one called.. - its not supported here.. so i cant rember
[04:31]  * PatrickDickey likes the Fedora version of Grub2 with the nice background
[04:31] <dr_willis> i think ubuntu disables most of the fancy grub2 eyecandy
[04:31] <dr_willis> given how little you actually see the grub menu.. i dont see the poiont in themeing it
[04:32] <phunyguy> Can anyone point me to some good docs on booting Windows 8 machines with Ubuntu? I just want to see how Ubuntu looks on it and if devices show up...
[04:32] <PatrickDickey> I just have to figure out how to get Ubuntu's grub to see the Fedora installation I just did on a different drive. Of course, I didn't install a bootloader on that drive, so that's probably 99% of the problem.
[04:32] <phunyguy> I have secure-boot disabled, I just can't get it to boot to anything other than the SSD inside.
[04:33] <phunyguy> Lenovo ThinkPad 2 tablet
[04:33] <mangdood> PatrickDickey: I haven't removed them yet, since I'm used to seeing the "unneeded packages"
[04:33] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: which machine is it? It'll be easier to find out how to boot to a cd or usb on that particular machine than on Windows 8.
[04:33] <dr_willis> theres some guides out on grubb2 themeing..  but ive never messed with it
[04:33] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, ^^
[04:33] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, try this: install virtualbox and put ubuntu inside the vbox.  No risk to your system and headaches avoided
[04:33] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, not an option.
[04:34] <phunyguy> I know how Ubuntu looks anyways, I am an avid user already.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, OK
[04:34] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, I did mention I wanted to see if devices are detected, right?
[04:34] <Rioma-san> Hello everyone
[04:34] <phunyguy> :P
[04:34] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  if you can find a  working  grub stanza to boot it. (like from the fedoras grub config) you could  put it in  the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[04:34] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/lenovo-ibm/54564-thinkpad-tablet-2-initial-impressions-23.html
[04:35] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, no doubt you did, but I'm multitasking, several screens and sleep deprived.  (Hot date) mea culpa.
[04:35] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, thanks, reading.
[04:36] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, ubuntu isn't mentioned on that page.... :-/
[04:36] <phunyguy> I did see something about USB optical drives, it is a self-powered one.
[04:36] <phunyguy> doesnt rely on USB power
[04:36] <PatrickDickey> No, it's the fact that you can't boot from USB period though. I don't think it's Ubuntu--just a general nope, can't do it. not going to happen.
[04:37] <phunyguy> weird, it comes up as a BIOS option
[04:37] <phunyguy> can even pick it in F12
[04:37] <phunyguy> (boot menu)
[04:37] <r00st3r> I checked in #opera and searched Google. Can not find anything on this. How can I get rid of the grey around text boxes for Opera 12.13 installed in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? It makes it difficult to read what you are typing.
[04:38] <phunyguy> it also mentions secureboot "or some secure UEFI crap".  That is disabled in the bios.
[04:38] <phunyguy> I had to disable it, but that shouldnt be an issue anymore
[04:39] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets-Knowledge/How-to-get-to-a-BIOS-Boot-Menu-on-the-Tablet-2/ta-p/994207 Talks about the tablet 2. it says it only boots to Windows 8 or Windows PE4 32-bit though.
[04:40] <dr_willis> r00st3r:  you mean grey background image in the text field entry boxs
[04:40] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, that says "pretty much" and "no legacy OSs".  AFAIK Ubuntu supports UEFI.
[04:41] <r00st3r> dr_willis yes
[04:41] <roger21> what's the thingy that allow to install big stuff like "desktop" or "lamp" and such
[04:41] <PatrickDickey> Right. There's a link at the bottom about how to configure a UEFI bootable USB drive. It's mainly aimed at Windows, but you might be able to use it to boot Ubuntu.
[04:41] <dr_willis> r00st3r:  ive noticed a similer issue with some themes.   i just tried differnt gtk3 themes  untill i found one that dideent do it
[04:42] <phunyguy> I thought Ubuntu did that out of the box... or is it the same issue Macs face?
[04:42] <r00st3r> cool thanks dr
[04:42] <dr_willis> roger21:  you can   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   and so forth.. via thir meta-package name
[04:42] <RyanD> Recommendations on a package / set of packages here: Running a basic site on a VPS for a client. They want mail forwarded from example@clientsite.com to example@gmail.com, easiest way to set this up?
[04:42] <Conanon> i just got anonymous os on my pc, do the programs actually work?
[04:42] <dr_willis> Conanon:  whats 'anonymous os' ?
[04:42] <Conanon> anyone there?
[04:43] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, that procedure will indeed only work with windows.  It is the diskpart method, and doesnt install grub.
[04:43] <dr_willis> theres 1000+ people here
[04:43] <phunyguy> (grub2)
[04:43] <roger21> dr_willis, i think theres a thingy that act like the installer showwing a list of big chunk of software instead of package
[04:43] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: Maybe check into using unetbootin with it? I'm not sure if they've figured out how to make it boot.
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Conanon, anonymous OS is not supported here.  suggest you go to the provided support
[04:43] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, I appreciate your help with this, but maybe we better get someone else to help
[04:44] <RyanD> anonymous OS is a gigantic pool of trojans. JFC...
[04:44] <PatrickDickey> No problem phunyguy. I figured I'd google and see what I could find.
[04:44] <dr_willis> roger21:  the package manager tools use meta-pacakges to pull in sets of apps and so forth. then there the tasksel featuree of the package managere system.  unless you mean GUI apps.. then theres softwarecenter, and synaptic and others
[04:44] <RyanD> software center….*shudder*
[04:44] <roger21> yeah tasksel
[04:44] <phunyguy> I know a little about UEFI, and how it works, I just can't figure out something specific to this tablet.
[04:45] <dr_willis> do NOT use tasksel to remove tasks.. it can remove to much
[04:45] <phunyguy> and now the USB port is already broken
[04:45] <phunyguy> it actually allowed me to plug in the device backwards, and bent the little plastic part inside.  These things are cheap.
[04:46] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: You might be able to look around the lenovo site that I linked to, and find an answer there. Or maybe ask on their forums. I'm sure you're not the only person to try this. Or try instaling something like Fedora (just as a test) since they're supposed to have a UEFI method working.
[04:46] <OerHeks> phunyguy, ARM tablet?
[04:46] <dr_willis> phunyguy:  im seeing that more and more these days also on devices...
[04:46] <phunyguy> OerHeks, nope.  Atom.
[04:46] <phunyguy> x86
[04:46] <dr_willis> cheap usb ports - let you plug in usb things backwards
[04:46] <phunyguy> dr_willis, didn't take much force at all
[04:47] <phunyguy> I should try to find a better quality one as they mature.
[04:47] <dr_willis> I wont mention the time i found out that a usb plug will fit in a network port also... ;)
[04:47] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: could that be the reason it's not booting then? if you broke the port, I mean.
[04:47] <phunyguy> dr_willis, offtopic but I did it with a headphone jack.  It shorted the PC out, and the only way to get it to boot was to shutdown fully, unplug, and then plug back in and turn on
[04:48] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, naah the drive still works in win8
[04:48] <phunyguy> it just loosened the port so now the plug doesnt stay in as easily
[04:49] <phunyguy> errr, it was a headphone plug pushed into a USB port accidentally.  computer got mad.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, yah think?
[04:49] <phunyguy> and I have done the USB in rj45, so have many of my users at wor
[04:50] <phunyguy> work
[04:50] <mojtaba> Hi, I run this command: startx -- :2, and after restarting the computer, I can not log in with my user anymore, now I am logged in as guest. Can anybody help me to solve the problem?
[04:50] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: One more thing to look at maybe. It's for mint, but that's a ubuntu derivative. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=123201
[04:50] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  login to the console as your problem user. check the owner of the .Xauthority file for sttrters.. should be the user. not root
[04:51] <Taev> is there a command to check the temp of your CPU via the command line?
[04:51] <Taev> isnt it acpi -v or something
[04:51] <dr_willis> Taev:    theeres the lm_sensors commands also
[04:51] <dr_willis> !sensors
[04:51] <mojtaba> dr_willis: what should I do? I am pretty new to linux
[04:51] <Taev> well whats the acpi command first
[04:51] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  login to the console as your user....
[04:52] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to the console
[04:52] <mojtaba> you mean log off know and then log in with my user?
[04:52] <mojtaba> ok
[04:52] <mojtaba> I see
[04:52] <PatrickDickey> Taev: acpi -t
[04:52] <dr_willis> no need to log off...
[04:52] <mojtaba> what is the next step?
[04:52] <mojtaba> I logged in
[04:52] <Taev> i just did -V, Ok since I'm American and despise celcius, is 44 C hot for a CPU?
[04:52] <PatrickDickey> Taev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1220526 (where I found that, along with some other options maybe)
[04:52] <dr_willis> look at the permissions on the .Xauthority file
[04:52] <dr_willis> ls -l .Xauthority
[04:52] <mojtaba> where is that file?
[04:52] <usr13> mojtaba: What Desktop Enviornment do you use?
[04:53] <dr_willis> it s in  your home...
[04:53] <mojtaba> at the moment cinnamon, but I have unity, KDE, Gnome.
[04:53] <usr13> mojtaba: ls -l .Xauthority
[04:53] <dr_willis>  .Xauthority being owned by root  would stop them all from working.. i belive.
[04:53] <mojtaba> the owner is root
[04:54] <dr_willis> delete the file..    then... sudo rm .Xauthority
[04:54] <kunji> Taev: Celsius is awesome, I'm American as well, but come on, lets get with the rest of the world on this one.   Also , doing physics in F sucks
[04:54] <dr_willis> and then try logging in as your user
[04:54] <mojtaba> ok, thank you
[04:54] <mojtaba> I will do this
[04:54] <kunji> Taev: 44 C is perfectly fine
[04:54] <jakeriver> that's one terrible file this xauthority, but it can be solved.  at least i solved it somehow.
[04:55] <xbanux> @Taev mine's usually more than 44 :)
[04:55] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, that may be what I need.  Thanks
[04:55] <mojtaba> dr_willis: should I replace that file with something else?
[04:55] <dr_willis> only time ive seen people hacve issues with .Xauthority is when they do wonky things as root..
[04:55] <mojtaba> I mean should I create something?
[04:55] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: no problem. Hope it works. :)
[04:55] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  just move.rename or delete it... it shouldent matter
[04:55] <dr_willis> it gets remade
[04:56] <mojtaba> ok, thanks
[04:56] <GRMrGecko> I'm trying to use UCK to create a disk with custom files in /root and /home/ubuntu. How can I accomplish this?
[04:57] <purplerain> usr13: hai. apparently by replacing kde network manager with wicd i can get wireless connection to work.
[04:59] <phunyguy> durnit, laptop crashed.  trying that thing again.  I also found my USB stick that is actually a microSD card with mini reader.
[05:02] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have another gui by alt+ctrl+f8
[05:03] <usr13> purplerain  Glad you got it.
[05:03] <usr13> mojtaba: WHy would you want to do that?
[05:03] <mojtaba> I have heard about startx, but I do not know how should I use it. By the way, I am pretty new to linux
[05:03] <mojtaba> usr13: I want to run virtualbox in full mode on that
[05:04] <usr13> mojtaba: You use startx if you do not have your computer already booting to GUI mode.  (Some folks do that on their laptop.)
[05:04] <kunji> mojtaba: You usually use it just as: startx
[05:04] <usr13> mojtaba: Or startxfce4 or startlxde etc.
[05:05] <mojtaba> You mean this is just for invoking gui from the command line, just when we have no gui?
[05:05] <mojtaba> can I use it with ssh?
[05:05] <bpear> Can anyone on here help me figure out why TF2 wont launch for me on steam?
[05:05] <mojtaba> ssh to my hosting web server?
[05:05] <bpear> it says PROBLEM: You appear to have OpenGL 1.4.0, but we need at least 2.0.0!
[05:06] <cfhowlett> bpear,  because steam is still in beta and not guaranteed to work?
[05:06] <bpear> http://pastebin.com/ij0NuRz3  Both fglrxinfo and glxinfo say i have opengl 4.2 ( i think)
[05:07] <PatrickDickey> mojtaba: my understanding is that CTRL+ALT+F8 is used if the gui on F7 crashes. X will restart on the other tty. What you might want to do is use a workspace for virtualbox.
[05:07] <bpear> I realize that <cfhowlett> , but most can get tf2 to launch and i can not
[05:07] <usr13> mojtaba: Yes, you are correct.  It is for invoking the GUI from command line.
[05:07] <PatrickDickey> bpear: what happens when you try to launch it?
[05:07] <bpear> It appears to think i have a driver that support 1.4.0 openGL max, but fglrxinfo and glxinfo say i have 4.2+
[05:08] <mojtaba> PatrickDickey: You mean other desktop by workspace?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> bpear, count me as one person who installed steam on 12.04 and can't get it to launch at all.  Then I remembered ... "beta"
[05:08] <PatrickDickey> bpear: which card do you have?
[05:08] <PatrickDickey> mojtaba: Yes.
[05:08] <bpear> <PatrickDickey> PROBLEM: You appear to have OpenGL 1.4.0, but we need at least 2.0.0!
[05:08] <bpear> PatrickDickey: Radeon hd 6950
[05:08] <usr13> mojtaba: Well, yes, you could do it from an ssh session.  You'd need to do export DISPLAY=:0.0 first and then startx would run the GUI on the PC you logged into, (on it's display).
[05:08] <mojtaba> PatrickDickey: but when I am in full mode, alt+ctrl+arrow keys do not work.
[05:08] <PatrickDickey> bpear: did you try the drivers from amd's site?
[05:09] <bpear> PatrickDickey: Yes 13.1 and new 13.2 beta
[05:09] <bpear> Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError' also pops up
[05:09] <bpear> fglrxinfo says i support 4.2 openGL
[05:09] <bpear> But steam says i appera to have OpenGL 1.4.0
[05:09] <PatrickDickey> I couldn't get tf2 to start on mine either. For me it was either not enough RAM (I had 2 GB) or bad memory. I didn't have the same issue that you had though.
[05:10] <usr13> mojtaba: You can run and display GUI apps on the machine you ssh from, but it is not very efficient.  It would be better to use VNC.
[05:10] <bpear> Ahh i see
[05:10] <PatrickDickey> bpear: I would try the drivers from AMD's site. Just to rule out the drivers altogether.
[05:10] <b1lly> my brightness control
[05:10] <b1lly> only controls the application windows
[05:10] <b1lly> is there a way for it to control the entire screen
[05:10] <mojtaba> I must install vnc on both machines before?
[05:11] <bpear> PatrickDickey: I have tried there drivers like i said, I tried ther 13.1 and 13.2 beta drivers
[05:11] <bpear> there*
[05:11] <PatrickDickey> bpear: try #steamlug they're the ones handling Steam on Linux.
[05:11] <usr13> mojtaba: And you can *not* run GUI apps via ssh by default, you'd need to enable ssh forwarding on the ssh server and initiate the secure shell with the -X switch.
[05:11] <mojtaba> usr13: could you please explain a little more about the vnc?
[05:11] <bpear> Fglrxinfo (part of there driver) says i have OpenGL 4.2 but it still wont launch
[05:12] <bpear> Ok thanks patrick
[05:12] <eboyblue3> Hi
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> bpear: No problem.
[05:12] <eboyblue3> Anyone out there?
[05:12]  * PatrickDickey looks around....
[05:12] <kunji> I hear CS1.6 is running on Linux now?  I may have to get that ^_^
[05:13] <usr13> mojtaba: Not much to explain.  VNC = Virtual Network Console   which is pretty much self explainatory.  The computer's screen shows up in a window on the remote PC's screen.
[05:13] <eboyblue3> I'm going to emulate Ubuntu on my Mac
[05:13] <PatrickDickey> kunji: CS1.6?
[05:13] <eboyblue3> GENIUS
[05:13] <kunji> PatrickDickey: I think, at least I believe there is a Beta of it on Steam you can get if you've bought it already for another platform
[05:14] <kunji> PatrickDickey: Lemme double check though
[05:14] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh ok. LOL I was thinking something else.
[05:14] <bobafett> anyone know good cheap domestic vps with lots of ip addresses ?
[05:14] <mojtaba> usr13: suppose I leave my computer in the home and would like make a remote to it with VNC. should I before leaving do something especial on it, or just install the VNC on my current machine?
[05:14] <kunji> PatrickDickey: Oh, nvm then, what were you thinking of ?
[05:14] <PatrickDickey> Adobe.
[05:15] <usr13> mojtaba: Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a graphical desktop sharing system that uses the RFB protocol (remote framebuffer) to remotely control another computer. It transmits the keyboard and mouse events from one computer to another, relaying the graphical screen updates back in the other direction, over a network.
[05:15] <PatrickDickey> But, I might be interested in that too. LOL I've played the variations of CS (like crossfire and wolfenstein).
[05:15] <kunji> PatrickDickey: Ah, lol, that might have been even bigger news
[05:16] <PatrickDickey> kunji: yeah, especially since Adobe messed up and opened up downloads for an older version of CS for free. I don't know if the links still work though.
[05:17] <usr13> mojtaba: Well, there would be a little more to it than that if you do it from outside your LAN, (over the internet).  It is simple to do inside your LAN, but not so from outside.  You'd need to make some provisions on your router and the ISP may block the protocol it uses as well.
[05:17] <kunji> usr13: I don't think it's time to talk about VPNs is it? :P
[05:18] <usr13> mojtaba: From outside, something like teamviewer might be an easier solution.
[05:18] <usr13> kunji: Good point.
[05:18] <mojtaba> usr13: I know port forwarding on the router.
[05:18] <mojtaba> Does it work?
[05:18] <mojtaba> Can I change the port, then the ISP can not block it?
[05:18] <usr13> mojtaba: Does what work?  Teamviewer, yes.
[05:19] <usr13> mojtaba: Yes, the ISP won't block it.
[05:19] <mojtaba> usr13: Does it have server and client version?
[05:19] <usr13> mojtaba: No.  Same app does both.
[05:19] <usr13> mojtaba: And it's cross-platform.
[05:20] <mojtaba> usr13: Then I should install it on both
[05:20] <usr13> mojtaba: Yes
[05:20] <mojtaba> Great
[05:20] <mojtaba> in the ubuntu software center, what is the exact name of it? as there is more than one candidate
[05:21] <usr13> mojtaba: Yes
[05:21] <usr13> may have version number after it, 7 or 8 maybe. I dono.
[05:21] <usr13> Ok, well, glad we got that settled.  Now maybe we can talk about Ubuntu again?
[05:23] <usr13> kunji: I expected you to take up the VPN thread ;0
[05:24] <eboyblue3> Okay, I'm having a problem
[05:24] <usr13> eboyblue3: Tell us about it.
[05:24] <kunji> usr13: lol, I was serious about not talking about it.  I still need to get my own OpenVPN setup working correctly.
[05:25] <usr13> kunji: Yea, it's a bit of a chore.
[05:25] <eboyblue3> How do I install Ubuntu in a virtual machine without an OS? Using the ISO as the system or the CD-ROM doesn't work!
[05:25] <bravis> http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps
[05:25] <eboyblue3> It gives me this weird keyboard thing = person
[05:25] <usr13> eboyblue3: Wow, I dono.
[05:26] <usr13> eboyblue3: Install Ubuntu in a virtual machine without an OS?
[05:26] <eboyblue3> I got it :O
[05:26] <kunji> usr13: I can get it where I can reach my network, but I'm having a little trouble convincing all my traffic to go over it, and also to reach anything outside of my LAN through the VPN.  I can't seem to figure out just why, I may need to actually bust out wireshark or something else heavy duty.
[05:26] <eboyblue3> Wait
[05:27] <usr13> kunji: Probably router config issue.
[05:27] <dr_willis> keybotd=man  is the logo to get to the boot options image
[05:27] <eboyblue3> Now it's giving me a blank command line after trying Ubuntu
[05:28] <dr_willis> eboyblue3: vbox ca n  boot  iso files
[05:28] <kunji> usr13: That's my initial guess, but I can't set a static route to something on the same subnet, and I can't have my VPN server on a different subnet because it has only one physical interface.  I've heard you can assign multiple IPs to the same interface, haven't looked into how that goes yet though.
[05:29] <eboyblue3> http://i.imgur.com/9klkadI.png
[05:29] <eboyblue3> Is something wrong?
[05:29] <usr13> kunji: I don't think multiple IPs is the answer, (but it is easy to do, multiple IPs that is...).
[05:30] <dr_willis> you did verify the md5 of the iso?
[05:30] <kunji> usr13: Hmm, but I think it would let me set the static route then, and I think the traffic is getting out of the network, but can't find it's way back because the router doesn't know where to send it, I could be wrong though
[05:30] <eboyblue3> I'm here
[05:31] <eboyblue3> http://i.imgur.com/Ln0hio1.png
[05:31] <usr13> kunji: You're prolly on the right track but hard to tell from here.
[05:31] <kunji> usr13: Yeah, I should probably make a forum post with all the details, well, I will if I don't manage to figure it out on my own in a few days.
[05:32] <eboyblue3> It's supposed to be easy, but it always gives me a blank command line whenever I select an option
[05:32] <usr13> kunji: You do have a static IP set for that PC, right?  (Or static lease.)
[05:32] <kunji> usr13: Yeah, it's static
[05:32] <dr_willis> eboyblue3: you may want to use lubuntu in a vm  not ubuntu..  its lighter
[05:33] <usr13> kunji:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[05:33] <eboyblue3> Well
[05:33] <eboyblue3> Is there a way to install Ubuntu alongside Mac?
[05:33] <eboyblue3> It works for Windows
[05:33] <eboyblue3> But what about the apples?
[05:33] <dr_willis> i dont use macs
[05:33] <dr_willis> !mac
[05:33] <eboyblue3> Either that or my Mac's too old to emulate
[05:34] <eboyblue3> !ppc
[05:34] <dr_willis> its a ppc mac!
[05:34] <eboyblue3> Thank the heavens!
[05:34] <dr_willis> ?
[05:35] <dr_willis> you have an old ppc mac?
[05:35] <eboyblue3> I use a PowerPC based Mac
[05:35] <eboyblue3> Power Mac G5
[05:35] <dr_willis> egads
[05:35] <eboyblue3> No WiFi
[05:35] <kunji> usr13: That's mostly for clients though, I've mostly been using this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openvpn.html  In conjunction with the documentation on OpenVPN's own site
[05:35] <dr_willis> good luck.. you will need it.
[05:36] <dr_willis> i never did get ppc linux working well.
[05:36] <cappicard> good evening, folks. I'm trying to build the openswan kernel module via  openswan-modules-dkms.
[05:37] <cappicard> however, I'm receiving a build error: : error: too few arguments to function ‘ipv6_skip_exthdr’
[05:37] <kunji> dr_willis: Same, I've had it work, but I wouldn't say well, not terribly, but not well
[05:37] <eboyblue3> I'm a basic user (not the programming language), so I'm confused as to what you're talking about, cappicard
[05:37] <bobafett> is there a most common program used to run a proxy server under ubuntu ?
[05:38] <ike_tatto> hi
[05:38] <usr13> eboyblue3: dr_willis I think ppc went away in '05 ir '06 (far as Mac computers are concerned).
[05:38] <dr_willis> i got rid of my imacdv a year ago..
[05:38] <dr_willis> it was... err.. poo.    ;-)
[05:38] <usr13> bobafett:  squid
[05:39] <cappicard> i'm not developing openswan. just trying to set it up. the kernel module is having major build hiccups
[05:39] <eboyblue3> I'm stuck with this until we have enough money for a shiny new MacBook Air
[05:39] <bobafett> cool, thanks
[05:39] <usr13> !squid | eboyblue3
[05:39] <mojtaba> I have this file in my hard disk, how can I install it? VNC-5.0.4-Linux-x64-DEB.tar.gz
[05:40] <eboyblue3> !dunno
[05:40] <mojtaba> sorry if it seems very simple to you
[05:40] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  vnc is in the repos.
[05:40] <usr13> eboyblue3: Sorry, that was for bobafett
[05:40] <eboyblue3> !compiling | mojtaba
[05:40] <dr_willis> mojtaba: no need to downlad the tar.gz stuff from a site normally
[05:40] <usr13> mojtaba: There is tightvnc and x11vnc
[05:40] <mojtaba> I have downloaded it from the realvnc site
[05:40] <eboyblue3> !vnc
[05:41] <dr_willis> mojtaba: use tightvnc
[05:41] <eboyblue3> There. Problem solved
[05:41] <eboyblue3> !ubottu | ubottu
[05:41] <mojtaba> dr_willis: what is the difference between tight and x11vnc?
[05:41] <PatrickDickey> cappicard: You're better off checking with the openswan people. What's happening is whatever line that calls that function isn't passing enough variables to it. It's something in their program.
[05:41] <eboyblue3> I think I made an incursion
[05:41] <usr13> eboyblue3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[05:42] <cappicard> ok. i'll browse their site for a kernel module for the linux 3.5.0 kernel
[05:42] <dr_willis> x11vnc shares the current desktop that you see on rhe monitors
[05:42] <eboyblue3> !notme
[05:42] <usr13> mojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[05:42] <dr_willis> !info x11vnc
[05:42] <usr13> sorry eboyblue3 I did it again.
[05:42] <PatrickDickey> cappicard: or check for a mailing list or an IRC channel.
[05:42] <cappicard> but yet the one provided with the 12.10 distribution is for the 2.6.37 kernel
[05:42] <eboyblue3> !forgiven
[05:42] <eboyblue3> !dash
[05:42] <eboyblue3> What did I just do
[05:43] <eboyblue3> !search
[05:43] <cappicard> oh wait, 2.6.37 is the openswan version
[05:43] <eboyblue3> !search search
[05:43] <eboyblue3> !multisearch
[05:43] <timaaa> [00:20] (timaaa) Ive got a major problem. Wont even boot. After i open grub it gives me bad target number, flashes to boot screen and freezes.
[05:43] <mojtaba> Thanks, I will check the reference
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: You might want to /msg ubottu and do those there.
[05:43] <dr_willis> eboyblue3:  /msg ubotu please...
[05:43] <eboyblue3> Okay
[05:43] <cappicard> yes, please. that is getting annoying
[05:43] <eboyblue3> I'll try to provide info
[05:44] <eboyblue3> Useful info
[05:44] <makara> Are there any themes for Rhythmbox?
[05:44] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: info for what? Things to search the bot for, or your question?
[05:44] <eboyblue3> !themes | makara
[05:44] <eboyblue3> Oops, not specific
[05:44] <PatrickDickey> !grub | timaaa this might help with fixing Grub issues.
[05:45] <usr13> !factoids | eboyblue3
[05:46] <eboyblue3> makara: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958803
[05:46] <eboyblue3> TL;DR: You can't, makara
[05:47] <makara> :(
[05:48] <timaaa> PatrickDickey: its not a grub issue its a ubuntu issue
[05:48] <eboyblue3> Oh well. You still have http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html , makara
[05:48] <dr_willis> what.. no winamp skins..  ;-)
[05:49] <PatrickDickey> timaaa: That link should still help you.
[05:50] <kunji> makara: Well, as a Gnome app, Rhythmbox does respect the system theme
[05:50] <mangdood_> I installed Gnome, but I can't seem to get extensions to show up under gnome-tweak-tool. I installed an extension from the internet as well as the gnome-shell-extension package
[05:50] <PatrickDickey> timaaa: Did the installation ever work? Or has it been doing this since you first installed ubuntu?
[05:50] <makara> its like that's all any of the other players have over Rhythmbox - look and feel. Make custom themes possible and it will take it's rightful place as king!
[05:50] <dr_willis> mangdood_: you may need to log out and back in
[05:51] <timaaa> I just installed an update today and it stoped working. Other than that its been great
[05:51] <mangdood_> dr_willis: I tried restarting and logging out
[05:51] <dr_willis> app themes... how 1990ish....
[05:51] <dr_willis> ;-)
[05:51] <mangdood_> the tip online for typing r into the run command dialog doesn't work either
[05:51] <PatrickDickey> timaaa: You could try booting to a LiveCD and then "fixing Grub" most likely the update failed for some reason.
[05:52] <john_rambo> I am trying to add myself to sudo using visudo but when I type anything nothing is getting printed
[05:52] <dr_willis> mangdood_: what ubuntu release?
[05:52] <kunji> makara: Well, not entirely, for instance,  rhythmbox doesn't support .ape files as far as I know.
[05:52] <makara> dr_willis, can you say 'swing'
[05:52] <PatrickDickey> timaaa: One other question. When you boot up, does it go straight into a grub> prompt, or does it try to boot Ubuntu first?
[05:52] <timaaa> Im on a netbook.. and it goes to grub
[05:52] <pnkbst> grub grub grub
[05:53] <kunji> makara: Not sure what swing you mean, but if it's the Java one then I will merely say I hate it :P
[05:53] <eboyblue3> Wait
[05:53] <mangdood_> dr_willis: :X I'm actually using mint. I don't suspect the mint channel can help, given the circumstances
[05:53] <PatrickDickey> !sudo | john_rambo
[05:54] <icloud> does anyone know how to make the xfce 4.10 (xubuntu 12.10) title bar icon bigger (minimize, maximize, close), they are so small
[05:54] <eboyblue3> My emulated Ubuntu says Ubuntu 12.10 on a maroon screen with 4 loading dots
[05:54] <bazhang> mangdood_, then ask mintsupport
[05:54] <eboyblue3> Does this mean it's working?
[05:54] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: That's a good sign.... Unless it's been like that for about 20 minutes.
[05:54] <kunji> makara: VLC is theme-able if you want to use that, though it doesn't track all your music files.
[05:54] <makara> kunji, isn't APE bad for your CPU?
[05:54] <bazhang> !mintsupport | mangdood_
[05:54] <eboyblue3> I don't know how long it's been going
[05:55] <eboyblue3> !archsupport
[05:55] <eboyblue3> Test doesn't work
[05:55] <bazhang> eboyblue3, stop that
[05:55] <makara> kunji, nah - functional decomposition: rm for music vlc for vid
[05:55] <kunji> makara: It takes a fair amount of processing, but it doesn't hurt anything, it would be an exxageration to say it's bad for the cpu.
[05:55] <kunji> *exaggeration
[05:56] <pnkbst> timaaa: you have to put the ubuntu installer disk on a usb stick, boot from it and do recovery
[05:56] <kunji> makara: Suit yourself, Guayadeque will play .ape, no idea if it's theme-able or not though.  Lots of people like Clementine, I've never tried it though.
[05:56] <timaaa> How to i boot recovery from it?
[05:57] <dr_willis> !recovery
[05:57] <pnkbst> timaaa: this would resemble what you did to install ubuntu on it in the first place
[05:57] <dr_willis> hmm. thats not fir 12.10
[05:57] <Cub> hm
[05:58] <pnkbst> timaaa: it depends on the netbook.  the startup bios message should tell you how to set boot priority or go into bios
[05:58] <timaaa> I never got the cds. I just downloaded in ISO
[05:58] <bobafett> seems like squid requires running apache ?
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> timaaa: You have to burn the iso to a CD or USB.
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> !iso
[05:58] <kunji> makara: You might like Songbird, not sure if it's in the repos though, I do know it is theme able
[05:58] <pnkbst> timaaa: your netbook has a dvd drive?
[05:58] <dr_willis> bobafett:  i dont think so
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> !burning | timaaa
[05:58] <eboyblue3> Burning Ubuntu, going to test on Mac
[05:59] <timaaa> Burt to usb
[05:59] <PatrickDickey> and one last one..
[05:59] <dr_willis> made a bootable live usb....  ;-)
[05:59] <PatrickDickey> !usb | timaaa
[05:59] <eboyblue3> I don't know if my computer can boot from USB
[05:59] <ArrayOfBoobs> Hi
[05:59] <makara> kunji, check the APE cons "http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Free_Lossless_Audio_Codec_.28FLAC.29"
[05:59] <timaaa> I got it i think
[06:00] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: If you have a DVD Drive, then burn an iso to DVD. Otherwise, you'll have to find out how to get into BIOS and see if it will boot to USB drives.
[06:00] <kunji> makara: vs. FLAC, yes I know, I prefer FLAC over APE, but I sometimes find things that are already in APE
[06:00] <makara> kunji, thanks - I tried all the others. I like Rhythmbox
[06:00] <makara> kunji, boring people like me will convert them
[06:01] <dr_willis> !info mocd
[06:01] <eboyblue3> PatrickDickey: I have a DVD, I just don't know if my computer will boot from USB
[06:01] <kunji> makara: I also like rhythmbox, I just need to use other things at times for stuff it doesn't play
[06:01] <eboyblue3> Drive
[06:01] <pnkbst> !ape
[06:01] <pnkbst> what is ape?
[06:01] <kunji> makara: convert .ape files, hmm, maybe, but I would have to look for a process that preserved all the quality.
[06:01] <hellomynameis> hello, is there a way to see the signal to noise ratio for my wifi connection? I am sitting in a coffe shop with a very erratic connection and would be iterested to see if it is a signal quality issue
[06:01] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: are you mentioning it because I put up the usb burning information? If so, that was for timaaa.
[06:02] <kunji> pnkbst: It's an audio format, a lossless one, kind of like FLAC is
[06:02] <eboyblue3> Yes
[06:02] <eboyblue3> Uh, double accounts? ^
[06:03] <eboyblue3> Looks like Ubuntu is popular
[06:03] <pnkbst> it's been popular for years, yeah
[06:03] <Oweoqi> It's pretty active in here
[06:03] <eboyblue3> 1650 people
[06:03] <Oweoqi> hey how do I set xchat to minimise to the messaging menu on close?
[06:03] <eboyblue3> My Mac's verifying the install
[06:03] <PatrickDickey> hellomynameis: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-inssider-2-wifi-scanner-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html is one option.
[06:03] <Oweoqi> I'm using 12.10
[06:04] <eboyblue3> I mean burn
[06:04] <pnkbst> macs support booting from usb
[06:04] <Reed_Solomon> this is really quite vexing
[06:04] <PatrickDickey> Oweoqi: is it in the preferences somewhere?
[06:04]  * PatrickDickey doesn't use xchat...
[06:04] <eboyblue3> My mac's connected to ethernet, will this be a problem?
[06:04] <hellomynameis> PatrickDickey: thanks, Ill take a look
[06:04] <scotty^> Oweoqi: Just install XChat-GNOME instead
[06:05] <PatrickDickey> eboyblue3: only if you don't want internet access.
[06:05] <Oweoqi> all good, I can't find it I may not be looking hard enough though
[06:05] <Oweoqi> is it better>
[06:05] <Oweoqi> integration wise
[06:05] <Reed_Solomon> ok, all of my usb joystick adapters only get input if I point the joystick right or down. left and up don't work.
[06:06] <Oweoqi> I'll take that as a yes ahaha
[06:06] <Reed_Solomon> i tried it in windows and it calibrates fine
[06:06] <Oweoqi> installing now!
[06:07] <scotty^> Oweoqi: I've never used vanilla XChat so I can't say if XChat-GNOME integrates better, but it does appear in the messaging menu, so that's integration, right?
[06:07] <phunyguy> I guess I better get used to windows 8 if I am going to use this tablet... :(  I thought Ubuntu supported UEFI systems? I disabled secure-boot, and even put ubuntu-secure-remix on the USB stick, but it will not boot on this system at all.
[06:08] <scotty^> Oweoqi: To find it install Synapic Package Manager and then just search for XChat - you will see both XChat and XChat-GNOME
[06:09] <PatrickDickey> Reed_Solomon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32031/how-do-i-configure-a-joystick-or-gamepad may help you. I'm not sure though, as I don't use a joystick.
[06:09] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: Have you tried any other linux distros? Just to make sure it's not the tablet.
[06:10] <Reed_Solomon> PatrickDickey: thanks ill check it out, the driver itself isnt registering keypresses
[06:10] <phunyguy> eeesh... I guess I could pull down Fedora...
[06:10] <Reed_Solomon> but ill see if it shows anything there
[06:10] <scotty^> phunyguy: I think Raring will support UEFI systems.  You can ask on #ubuntu+1 about that.  But be careful if it's a Samsung tablet.
[06:10] <kunji> phunguy: Technically it does support them, but some hardware manufacturers don't really follow the specs, or you could be having some other issue that's not even UEFI related.  Sorry, but I'm too tired to help out on this one, I don't have enough knowledge to troubleshoot it too much, and also I don't have similar hardware to verify whether something should or should not work from here.
[06:10] <PatrickDickey> Reed_Solomon: if not, then try googling usb joystick ubuntu and see what you find.
[06:10] <phunyguy> scotty^, it's a Lenovo Thinkpad 2
[06:10] <phunyguy> (tablet)
[06:11] <kunji> scotty^: 12.10 already is supposed to support them
[06:11] <phunyguy> maybe I can pull down raring as well.
[06:11] <timaaa> Im just going to reinstall
[06:11] <scotty^> I've never heard of ubuntu-secure-remix though, so you might already be one step ahead of me
[06:11] <phunyguy> I dont even care to install it, I am just curious to see how it feels on a tablet.
[06:11] <PatrickDickey> I thought ubuntu-secure-remix was more a locked down version of Ubuntu. Not so much an UEFI friendly version.
[06:12] <Reed_Solomon> PatrickDickey: well already that help file tells me to apt-get install jscalibrator, which is non-existant in repositories
[06:13] <scotty^> Oweoqi:  Did it work?
[06:13] <Reed_Solomon> yep that did not solve anything.  seems to be a problem with the driver itself
[06:13] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:13] <phunyguy> :P
[06:13] <alcoder>  is there the dev package for pulgins-good of gstreamer ? I can't seem to find actual data structure headers of those plugins
[06:13] <phunyguy> I may be boned though... this tablet is x86 only.
[06:14] <ClientAlive> what's the deal with removing transmission bit torrent from ubuntu?
[06:14] <Oweoqi> xchat-gnome is buggy as heck!
[06:14] <Oweoqi> it's crashed on me 3 times now
[06:14] <scotty^> Oweoqi:  Did it work?
[06:14] <Oweoqi> I'm trying it now
[06:14] <chaos_plague> why do you want to use xchat?
[06:14] <scotty^> Really?  It's never crashed here on 32bit Ubuntu
[06:14] <ClientAlive> If I do a sudo apt-get remove transmission <- it apparently can't find the package. If i go through synaptic, it wants to remove gnome along with it
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: There's your problem. The instructions say you must use a 64-bit version of Ubuntu, as the 32-bit doesn't recognize EFI. But your tablet only works with 32-bit versions.
[06:15] <Oweoqi> what's wrong with xchat?
[06:15] <ClientAlive> I like deluge and want it to be default for torrent files
[06:15] <chaos_plague> Theres nothing wrong with xchat i actually like it but why not something like irssi?
[06:16] <genoobie> hey all
[06:16] <Oweoqi> I am lazy and it just works
[06:16] <genoobie> ubuntu and lubuntu are not the same, I have lubuntu with LXDE and a chromium browser
[06:16] <genoobie> I am having trouble getting flash to play in the browser
[06:16] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, I think that pertains to it not installing properly in EFI mode, however it should still boot
[06:16] <PatrickDickey> ClientAlive: If you're opening them in Firefox, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1048413
[06:17] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:17] <scotty^> How is it genoobie?
[06:17] <Noskcaj> genoobie, have you put chrome on?
[06:17] <genoobie> I did but chrome is *super* laggy
[06:17] <genoobie> I followed this guide here
[06:17] <genoobie> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html
[06:17] <scotty^> cd ..
[06:17] <genoobie> personally lubuntu friggin' rocks
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> I'm running lubuntu with chrome right now, and I don't have issues with flash. It might be something else going on though.
[06:18] <Oweoqi> pcmanfm gives me the shits
[06:18] <Oweoqi> it's fantastic but can't create links
[06:18] <genoobie> PatrickDickey, which version lubuntu
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> 12.10
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> 12.10 x 64 to be clear.
[06:18] <genoobie> 12.04 i dunno if it's any diff
[06:18] <genoobie> 12.04 x 32
[06:18] <Gnea> genoobie: actually, lubuntu and ubuntu are the same, they just use a different gui frontend. the packages all come from the same place.
[06:19] <genoobie> that's what I figured so
[06:19] <genoobie> I figured I would ask here to see if anyone encountered this with some success...
[06:19] <Gnea> well I use chromium with flash in ubuntu 12.04 64bit no problems
[06:20] <genoobie> Gnea, right out of the box?
[06:20] <PatrickDickey> Well it was laggy on 12.04 and when I was only running 2GB of RAM, but since I've upgraded, it seems to work.
[06:20] <Gnea> genoobie: yes.
[06:20] <genoobie> wtf
[06:20] <genoobie> maybe I will reinstall the OS
[06:20] <Gnea> genoobie: what version is your chrome?
[06:20] <genoobie> lemme see
[06:21] <genoobie> Version 23.0.1271.97 Ubuntu 12.04 (23.0.1271.97-0ubuntu0.12.04.1)
[06:21] <Gnea> same thing I have
[06:21] <genoobie> urgh...
[06:21] <genoobie> okay OS reinstall
[06:21] <Gnea> genoobie: so what sort of issues is youtube exhibiting?
[06:21] <genoobie> not just youtube
[06:21] <genoobie> any page with flash
[06:22] <Gnea> okay, so what's the problem exactly?
[06:22] <Meerkat> yes
[06:22] <Meerkat> same here
[06:22] <genoobie> yellow bar at top
[06:22] <genoobie> could not load shockwave flsh
[06:22] <axisys> how do I make the wifi solid instead of blinking?
[06:22] <Gnea> genoobie: what video card do you have?
[06:22] <genoobie> Gnea a crappy one :)
[06:22] <genoobie> S3
[06:22] <Gnea> oh :)
[06:23] <Gnea> hm
[06:23] <genoobie> but should not matter (I think)
[06:23] <axisys> i have having same youtube/flash issue with chrome.. works fine with firefox
[06:23] <makara> here's a long shot: I plug in Sony NetMD player in USB (I want to copy music from old discs). Where do I find device?
[06:23] <Gnea> genoobie: do you happen to know what video driver it's using?
[06:23] <genoobie> hold a sec
[06:24] <axisys> I am using
[06:24] <axisys> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[06:24] <genoobie> xserver-xorg-savage-video
[06:24] <axisys> mine is agpgart-intel
[06:25] <genoobie> but the video card should not impact it (I think)
[06:25] <Gnea> genoobie: interesting. what's the output of:  lspci | grep VGA   ?
[06:25] <Gnea> genoobie: it might if it's the wrong driver
[06:25] <axisys> Gnea: i think google chrome broke
[06:25] <axisys> Gnea: youtube/flash works fine with firefix
[06:25] <axisys> firefox*
[06:26] <genoobie> ugh, hold on, copying by hand
[06:27] <axisys> I get could not load plugin
[06:27] <genoobie> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MC (rev 11)
[06:27] <axisys> on chrome/youtube
[06:27] <genoobie> btw Gnea thanks for your input on this
[06:28] <genoobie> there are a few drivers for S3
[06:28] <Gnea> genoobie: okay, try this:  sudo lspci -k     what does it say for 'kernel driver in use: ' under the VGA component?
[06:28] <genoobie> savagefb
[06:28] <Gnea> genoobie: do you have glxgears installed?
[06:29] <genoobie> Gnea, not that I know of...
[06:29] <Gnea> genoobie: you should install it and see if it runs :)
[06:29] <genoobie> ok
[06:29] <axisys> I am using i915
[06:29] <axisys> but I also installed ccsm today
[06:29] <axisys> i wonder when it broke
[06:30] <Gnea> axisys: you should try glxgears as well
[06:30] <scotty^> genoobie: I think glxgears might be in mesa-utils, which also contains glxinfo
[06:30] <axisys> Gnea: works fine
[06:30] <genoobie> okay
[06:30] <scotty^> What is the output of glxinfo |grep render ?
[06:30] <Gnea> axisys: let it run for a bit, what FPS are you getting?
[06:30] <axisys> 299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.650 FPS
[06:31] <Gnea> axisys: sounds about right. what version of flash is installed?
[06:31] <axisys> $ glxinfo | grep render
[06:31] <axisys> direct rendering: Yes
[06:31] <axisys> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset  GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, GL_ARB_debug_output,
[06:31] <axisys> scotty^: ^
[06:32] <vnc786> where do i ask question related to usb not able to detect in bios but showing in user space want to boot thru usb ...
[06:32] <Gnea> genoobie: I should tell you know, I have to go in a bit
[06:32] <Gnea> vnc786: older systems may not boot via usb by default...
[06:32] <genoobie> Gnea, direct rendering: Yes
[06:33] <cfhowlett> vnc786, you might have to try a PXE install
[06:33] <scotty^> vnc786 You might need to flash your BIOS to a newer version.  Be careful though.
[06:33] <genoobie> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
[06:33] <scotty^> Or PXE
[06:33] <genoobie> GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_conservative_depth,
[06:33] <scotty^> genoobie:  There is your problem
[06:33] <genoobie> ah-hah :)
[06:33] <scotty^> I didn't think savagefb sounded very good
[06:34] <vnc786> no it's new MB gigabyte ga350 with amd dual core 4 gb RAM
[06:34] <genoobie> oh, so now you're slamming my crappy hardware :)
[06:34] <Gnea> scotty^: perhaps you can get them sorted, I have to go
[06:34] <scotty^> Gnea:  What other S3 drivers are there?
[06:34] <genoobie> Gnea, tx for your help!
[06:34] <Gnea> genoobie: cheers
[06:34] <genoobie> scotty, I think there's savage, and S3
[06:35] <Gnea> scotty^: I just apt-cache search savage
[06:35] <Gnea> hasta
[06:35] <genoobie> there's a ton...
[06:35] <scotty^> Crappy driver actually
[06:36] <genoobie> S3, savage, s3virge, s3-lts-quantal
[06:36] <genoobie> but my install of 12.10 did not work
[06:36] <setient> god, i remember those.
[06:36] <genoobie> I mean the video did not work
[06:37] <scotty^> Well you don't want the s3virge driver - S3 Virge is a different card.  I know because I once had one :)
[06:37] <genoobie> scotty^, what is your thought process here
[06:38] <genoobie> why is savagefb not listed?
[06:38] <scotty^> genoobie:  We need to get you using a better driver.  Hold on while I go and read up about those other drivers you mentioned.
[06:38] <genoobie> scotty^, many, many thanks
[06:38] <scotty^> genoobie: savagefb stand for Savage Frame Buffer - frame buffer=not good
[06:39] <genoobie> k
[06:40] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I'm looking for a way to print to output only the first 2 characters that are numbers from a file
[06:40] <pnkbst> scotty^: not good? if not for framebuffers, you would have had much slower graphics all these years
[06:41] <phunyguy> so I tried a Fedora iso and dd'd it to the USB stick like they told me, and that didn't boot either.....
[06:41] <vnc786> cfhowlett: scotty^:  here is the exact model of MB "gigabyte ga-350n"  i checked on gigabyte website but no luck
[06:41] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, ^^^
[06:42] <JokesOnYou77> Is there a way to print to output only the first 2 characters that are numbers from a file ?
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> JokesOnYou77: 'man head' it might be able to do what you want
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> i'm gonna read the man page now as well
[06:43] <scotty^> genoobie: xserver-xorg-video-savage-lts-quantal is for the backport to 12.04.2 so don't worry about that for now
[06:43] <JokesOnYou77> aeon-ltd, I looked, I dono't think is lets you select to print only digits
[06:43] <genoobie> so scotty^ I am a total newb
[06:43] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  use awk perhaps
[06:43] <linux_is_my_hero> is there a room for chrome/flash issues?
[06:43] <genoobie> not sure how to install a new driver.
[06:43] <genoobie> linux_is_my_hero, they are being discussed here a bit atm
[06:44] <genoobie> linux_is_my_hero, but not exclusively
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> JokesOnYou77: if you do 'head -c 2 path/to/file' it works
[06:44] <linux_is_my_hero> i recently did an update and now fash doesnt work in chrome.  before the update, it worked.
[06:44] <genoobie> heh
[06:44] <linux_is_my_hero> *ubuntu system update
[06:44] <scotty^> genoobie:  I think the one you want is xserver-xorg-video-savage so we just need to work out why it wasn't installed automatically
[06:44] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: I'd check in #ubuntu+1 then and see how they're doing with getting Raring to boot.
[06:45] <phunyguy> k
[06:45] <scotty^> vnc786: I'm a little busy now but will try to get back to you later
[06:45] <JokesOnYou77> aeon-ltd, I'm not looking for the first 2 bytes, I'm looking for the first 2 characters that are digits
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> oh
[06:45] <genoobie> scotty^, okay, I follow you so far
[06:45] <genoobie> the modprobe dbase might be wrong
[06:45] <genoobie> ?
[06:45] <genoobie> I mean the PCI dbase might be wrong
[06:46] <scotty^> hmm yeah maybe
[06:46] <scotty^> You mean the online dbase?
[06:46] <genoobie> scotty^, yes
[06:46] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  if you figure out a regular expression that does what you need. you could use grep. or awk or perl or  python..
[06:46] <scotty^> Or the compiled-in PCI-id's?
[06:46] <vnc786> scotty^: okay ..i will trying something by the time ...or tell some other channel name where i can ask
[06:46] <genoobie> the online one
[06:47] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  do the numbers have to be side by side? on the same line?
[06:48] <genoobie> scotty^, the online database
[06:48] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i completely uninstall and reinstall flash for chrome?
[06:49] <scotty^> OK
[06:50] <scotty^> That shouldn't matter.  I'm just looking up the X.Org website for what Savage chips have what level of support in the driver
[06:50] <dONALD> Hi people!
[06:51] <dONALD> I have the new Opera installed, and the link targets are missing from tooltips. Can anyone help me in this matter?
[06:52] <xujun1234> i want to use blueteeth device,but how
[06:52] <kunji> linux_is_my_hero: As I understand it flash is packaged as part of chrome, so the best way would probably be to completely remove and then reinstall chrome.  You would lose your bookmarks, etc.. that way though if doing that removing it completely (i.e. with purge), unless you track them down and back them up someplace else first.
[06:53] <dr_willis> dONALD: checked the opera support forums?
[06:53] <scotty^> genoobie:  According to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3Savage your Savage IX should be supported.
[06:53] <genoobie> kunji, you could prolly install another browser import the bookmarks, reinstall back, and re-import the bookmarks
[06:53] <genoobie> scotty^, a couple of things
[06:53] <dONALD> dr_willis: no, only googled it, with no result whatsoever
[06:53] <genoobie> I tried installing 12.10
[06:54] <dr_willis> kunji: purge will not tiuch his settings in his home
[06:54] <genoobie> that has the newer version of the savage driver
[06:54] <dONALD> I thought I get help faster on irc...
[06:54] <manadys> Is it possible to tell Ubuntu to install only the updates that won't require a reboot?
[06:54] <genoobie> did not work (although I didn't really push)
[06:54] <kunji> dr_willis: Ah, good, I wasn't sure if they were in home or not for chrome, I don't use it
[06:54] <genoobie> so I went an installed 12.04 and suppressed the update of xserver-xorg-savage-video
[06:54] <genoobie> it's on hold
[06:54] <help2stream> hi guys
[06:55] <dr_willis> all users files are nirmally in their  home. ;-)
[06:55]  * help2stream is in desperate need of help with setting up internet radio stream
[06:55] <kunji> dr_willis: Yeah, I'm not thinking too well, almost 2 A.M. here :P
[06:55] <dr_willis> !info icecast
[06:55] <help2stream> shoutcast not so easy as on windoze
[06:55] <dONALD> I've seen 12.10 does not support the closed source ATI friver
[06:55] <help2stream> !info icecast
[06:56] <help2stream> ?
[06:56] <dr_willis> !find icecast
[06:56] <help2stream> confused
[06:56] <dONALD> so no surprise it also does not support something else
[06:56] <dr_willis> !info icecast2
[06:56] <PatrickDickey> dONALD: I'm using the closed source driver right now. It doesn't support it if you're using an older card though.
[06:56] <PatrickDickey> dONALD: Which video card do you have?
[06:56] <genoobie> scotty^, when I installed 12.10
[06:56] <scotty^> dONALD:  It does, except not on pre Radeon HD5000 hardware
[06:57] <dONALD> HD6400M I think
[06:57] <help2stream> iv come to icecast links in google searches but its  grating on me
[06:57] <genoobie> scotty^, the xorg log said "dri-not loaded"
[06:57] <scotty^> genoobie:  And if you allow the update on 12.04?
[06:57] <dONALD> anyway, it failed to install on my box
[06:57] <genoobie> haven't tried
[06:57] <dr_willis> ati is always removeing older hardware support
[06:57] <dONALD> 12.10 did
[06:57] <dONALD> LOL
[06:57] <dONALD> I don't mean ati doesn't support older cards
[06:57] <genoobie> assumed = borked because the 12.10 livecd !working
[06:58] <dONALD> I mean 12.10 doesn't support closed ati driver
[06:58] <dONALD> I've read it in some forum comment
[06:58] <PatrickDickey> dONALD: Actually ATI doesn't support older cards. Well They don't officially support them anymore.
[06:58] <dr_willis> dONALD: depends on your card.
[06:58] <kunji> Well, not removing exactly, you just use the legacy driver now for the older devices an it only gets security updates, or am I mixed up?
[06:58] <genoobie> scotty^, let me see if I can find the exact output of my xorg log
[06:58] <help2stream> willis wud using old icecast be ok
[06:58] <dONALD> yeah, true, though the problem was the latter
[06:58] <help2stream> like icecast from its .org site
[06:59] <manadys> Is it possible to do an upgrade from Ubuntu Server 12.04 to 12.10?
[06:59] <dr_willis> help2stream: why use an old one
[06:59] <PatrickDickey> dONALD: So are you running 12.04 or 12.10 now?
[06:59] <dONALD> anyway, any idea about the tooltip thingie?
[06:59] <scotty^> genoobie:  That would be good. So you are saying that the 12.10 LiveCD worked but the 12.10 install did not?
[06:59] <dONALD> sorry, xubuntu 12.04 on 64bit sys
[06:59] <help2stream> i loked for icecast2 and was presented so many options i was like
[06:59] <help2stream> derp
[06:59] <help2stream> looked*
[06:59] <PatrickDickey> manadys: it's a part of Update Manager. You might have to install upgrade-manager-core though.
[06:59] <dONALD> 12.04 x86_64 I mean
[07:00] <manadys> PatrickDickey: interesting, when I did do-release-upgrade it tells me there's nothing...
[07:00] <genoobie> no, I don't think I tried the livecd, but the desktop install definitely did not work
[07:00] <genoobie> nor did the alternate install
[07:00] <dr_willis> help2stream:  check the ubuntu wiki pages for a guide perhaps
[07:00] <dr_willis> !wiki
[07:00] <PatrickDickey> manadys: Go into Software Sources, and make sure you've got Updates set to Any new Version.
[07:00] <scotty^> genoobie:  OK
[07:00] <genoobie> scotty^, the first live-cd that worked was xubuntu 12.04 and I used that info to help
[07:00] <manadys> but do-release-upgrade appears to have started getting quantal...
[07:01] <genoobie> scotty^, I put together a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1110905
[07:01] <sote> help.. what setting do I have to un-tick to stop the windows from sticking to each other.. the stick is so powerful that the wobbly window stretches across the screen before releasing the window beside it
[07:01] <help2stream> yeh was looking for something pretty how to, shall try and come bk if problems
[07:01] <help2stream> thanks
[07:01] <manadys> who says living on the edge with production systems is bad?
[07:01] <scotty^> genoobie:  Checking that bug report now
[07:01] <dr_willis> i am the edge..... ;-)
[07:02] <nearst> hi ppl
[07:02] <genoobie> the relevant line is
[07:02] <cfhowlett> nearst, greetings
[07:03] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590896 on line 619
[07:04] <dONALD> LOL I just solved it
[07:04] <PatrickDickey> dONALD: How?
[07:05] <genoobie> scotty^, oh eff
[07:05] <dONALD> #turn off the toolbar at the bottom in appearance
[07:05] <genoobie> something is wrong the the bug report
[07:05] <dONALD> *#1
[07:05] <dONALD> #2 enable tooltips
[07:05] <foxlover> join #php
[07:05] <manadys> well here's hoping development release is decent and doesn't kill my server
[07:06] <dONALD> the toolbar was set to "show only when needed", that's why it did not work
[07:06] <dr_willis> quantal is not tge development rekease
[07:06] <PatrickDickey> manadys: if it's downloading Quantal, that's not a development release.  Well not in the "beta" sense of the word.
[07:06] <dONALD> anyway, bye for now
[07:06] <manadys> that's what I figured...
[07:07] <manadys> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html says that do-release-upgrade would upgrade...
[07:07] <manadys> and with -d it's be the development version
[07:08] <genoobie> oh eff
[07:08] <genoobie> eff eff eff
[07:08] <guide_X> eff?
[07:08] <genoobie> yeah as in I effed something up
[07:09] <genoobie> scotty^, you still here?  There is a more relevant line here...
[07:09] <guide_X> same here, I spent all day effing up.. 10 straight hours of effing up
[07:09] <guide_X> in the end I still can't boot into ubuntu :(
[07:09] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590824/    on line 438
[07:09] <genoobie> can't load xaa sub-module
[07:10] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: What errors do you get when you try to boot into Ubuntu? Or what happens?
[07:10] <ArmoredDragoon> is there any way to force my ethernet adapter to do gigabit speeds? The switch indicates a gigabit link, but the interface only shows the two amber lights and not the green gigabit light (as in it is only 100mbit,) and ethtool shows it is at gigabit, but iperf shows that it is indeed only 100mbit
[07:10] <RigidWig> If I am trying to telnet from a remote address to an ubuntu server, should [sudo tshark -i eth0 -f "tcp port 25"] be able to see it?
[07:10] <genoobie> scotty^, and then it falls back to shadowfb as a result
[07:10] <guide_X> well I'm using virtualbox, and this unity stuff is so slow it takes like 4 minutes just to type the word terminal
[07:10] <guide_X> also things like browsing folders I waste whole minutes while annimations finish
[07:10] <manadys> guide_X: that's not just virtualbox
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> ArmoredDragoon: It also depends on what the other end is running. If you force it to do gigabit, and the other side of the connection (computer or modem/router) can't do that, it won't talk.
[07:11] <manadys> I don't use ubuntu on my netbook because of that same thing
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: Did you give it enough memory?
[07:11] <guide_X> and so I keep trying to fix it, and I'm not very good with ubuntu + it's slow, so I have installed it three times and deleted it three times after I effed it up
[07:11] <nearst> brb
[07:11] <scotty^> genoobie:  Sitll here - I've just found that line in the log too
[07:11] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: the switch is gigabit, it was doing gigabit earlier but then stopped suddenly, I don't know why. The switch lights even indicate it has a gigabit link, but the physical port on the computer indicates only 100mbit
[07:11] <guide_X> I gave it 2 gb of ram and a 30 gb hdd, I also tried with 2 processors
[07:12] <genoobie> so that's at the root of the detect problem I'd assume
[07:12] <guide_X> but simple things like typing text, and clicking icons, and animations take EONS
[07:12] <genoobie> personally, b/c I'm a newb I wouldn't have a frickin' clue how to solve it
[07:12] <guide_X> worst thing is i'm just trying to do some php dev without sitting in a terminal session all day
[07:13] <dr_willis> i think i reccomended usoing lubuntu in vbox several hours ago.......
[07:13] <guide_X> and this stupid project requires linux
[07:13] <scotty^> genoobie:  Line 438 is OK - see line 2
[07:13] <sote> guide_x have you watched any ubuntu installing videos on youtube ?
[07:13] <dr_willis> so install a simple window manager guide_X
[07:13] <guide_X> but that's not the same distribution right? so it's not as supported or?
[07:13] <dr_willis> its totally suypported
[07:13] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[07:13] <scotty^> genoobie:  It seems Xubuntu uses an older version of the xserver than Ubuntu.
[07:13] <dr_willis> its ubuntu with a lighter desktop
[07:13] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop They're both supported.
[07:13] <guide_X> you see, if I can't use unity, whats the point? ubuntu team is probably focused on the ubuntu + unity
[07:14] <guide_X> not the others
[07:14] <genoobie> ok
[07:14] <genoobie> I'm still with you
[07:14] <dr_willis> if you want unity.. tne you really dont want to be using it in vbox
[07:14] <guide_X> well i'll try it
[07:14] <scotty^> genoobie:  Either that  or you a Franken-system with an old xserver and a new driver
[07:14] <dr_willis> unity needs decent 3d hardware,... thats the core of your slowness
[07:14] <pnkbst> guide_X: not necessarily
[07:14] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: They're all parts of the same family.
[07:14] <genoobie> :)
[07:14] <dr_willis> well 'ok' 3d hardware
[07:14] <sote> unity is annoying once you get adapted to it, you will soon want to try other DE's out
[07:15] <dr_willis> for getting real 'work' done - many people in here use very very miniomal window managers like 'awsome' or 'ratpossion'
[07:15] <guide_X> I started to like it for a while when I figured out how to disable some of the effects, but it still wasn't good enough.. eventually I broke it finding ways to lower the setting, and deleted it heh
[07:15] <dr_willis> ratposion
[07:15] <pnkbst> guide_X: all the maintainers for all the different WMs all focus on making it work well, and many developers prefer other WMs to unity as well
[07:15] <guide_X> hmm .. I will probably try to go back to gnome, but when I went back to gnome, it seemed like the menus were glitchy
[07:15] <pnkbst> and stumpwm
[07:15]  * PatrickDickey likes unity just had issues with memory and switched to lubuntu instead
[07:15] <dr_willis> guide_X:  which gnome?
[07:15] <guide_X> like it'd click and the menus would appear and disapper
[07:16] <guide_X> gnome classic no effects
[07:16] <scotty^> guide_X: That is bug 1046497 and bug 1055936
[07:16] <guide_X> hmm i see
[07:16] <dr_willis> llvmpipe is a area they are working on...
[07:16] <genoobie> scotty^, the truth is the hardware is old
[07:16] <dr_willis> its new in 12.10
[07:17] <pnkbst> also, gnome has had many more years to have the bugs ironed out compared to unity
[07:17] <guide_X> hmm perhaps 12.04 would functuion better
[07:17] <dr_willis> 12.04 has unity 2d if you want unity
[07:17] <dr_willis> that will run better in vbox
[07:17] <pnkbst> ratpoison is small and simple enough to not suffer from many bugs
[07:17] <guide_X> I will try that
[07:17] <dr_willis> id bet lubuntu would still be faster
[07:17] <guide_X> it'll probably be better
[07:18] <guide_X> well then i'm trying to break the pattern, you know?
[07:18] <dr_willis> if your system is installed.. its trivial to install lubuntu-desktop
[07:18] <sote> never had any issues with Gnome.. love it, but logged in using Cairo Dock at the moment .. it can be glitchy but that is the fun part
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> pnkbst: ratpoison - tiling right? kinda annoying to learn
[07:18] <dr_willis> and try out lubuntu
[07:18] <guide_X> well plus I need something with svn
[07:18] <pnkbst> ratpoison requires you to be a moderate to advanced linux user though, or have lots of time to learn
[07:18] <sote> trial and error makes perfect
[07:18] <dr_willis> i dont see how 'with svn' really applies..  its in the repos.. so every ubuntu variant can have svn
[07:19] <dr_willis> !svn
[07:19] <guide_X> oh because I don't know the terminal svn
[07:19] <dr_willis> i suggesst learning the terminal
[07:19] <guide_X> I need something with svn into the ui
[07:19] <genoobie> ugh
[07:19] <pnkbst> aeon-ltd: the tiling itself doesn't take very long to learn.  it's the rare commands you need to learn like switching wifi connections and mounting usb drives
[07:19] <dr_willis> 'doing development' and 'not wanting to learn the terminal' is like.. wanting to garden.. but not get your hands in the dirt...
[07:20] <dr_willis> its the funnest part
[07:20] <sote> I suggest typing the same questions into a youtube search and watch a video on the topic, there are hundreds
[07:20] <nearst> whats up
[07:20] <guide_X> problem is, I'm already horrible with svn, the terminal only complicates it more..
[07:20] <guide_X> I
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> guide_X: learn git?
[07:20] <pnkbst> aeon-ltd: switching programs is just C-t RET, and running them is C-t ! program
[07:20] <kunji> svn is gross use git
[07:20] <guide_X> I know git, and visual sourcesafe, and nolw I work somewhere with svn, and i'm totally lost with it heh
[07:21] <guide_X> not my choice heh, but I must use it
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> pnkbst: i'm already a dwm user, i don't think the efficiency gains of tiling is worth it, depending on the user
[07:21] <kunji> guide_X: Ah, well then I guess you're stuck with it T.T, I don't really know how to use it
[07:21] <kunji> Personally I don't like tiling much
[07:21] <guide_X> on the old ubuntu box i have something called rabbitcvs or something
[07:21] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: You might check the link that ubottu gave you though. It might have some tutorials on how to use subversion in a terminal.
[07:22] <RigidWig> how can I omit SSH from a tshark command?
[07:22] <nearst> precise-quantal is big different release?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> nearst, different from what?
[07:23] <genoobie> ok
[07:23] <genoobie> it might be bed
[07:23] <guide_X> well hope they figure out the virtual box problem
[07:23] <genoobie> so scotty^ what's the general idea so I can try and implement
[07:24] <guide_X> all they have to do is detect a pc which can't handle the ui
[07:24] <guide_X> oh vbox eh? well disable this stuff...
[07:24] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: I hate saying it probably won't be figured out. The problem isn't going to be on Ubuntu's side. It'll be on Oracle's side. Because Oracle uses specfic hardware for emulation.
[07:24] <guide_X> oh
[07:24] <dgbaley27> I'd like to upgrade a chroot but it's a PITA when the update messes with (starts/restarts/stops) processes on the host system. Is there a clean way to prevent this?
[07:25] <dr_willis> guide_X:  thats the point of llvm - iiits suppost to give a fallback 2d mode
[07:25] <guide_X> does it work better in other vm software?
[07:25] <genoobie> if i change the driver
[07:25] <dr_willis> i only use vbox.. and rarely at taht
[07:25] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: Your mileage may vary.
[07:25] <dr_willis> if im running ubuntu in vbox on my windows machine.. i use Lubuntu
[07:25] <genoobie> i wouldn't be able to change back
[07:25] <guide_X> hmm
[07:25] <nearst> cfhowlett, im now on precise. just thinking to upgrade to quantal. some hardware and software need better kernel to run like ati :(
[07:26] <scotty^> genoobie: Re line 619 - does that file exist in that directory?
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> I'd just use something like lubuntu or xubuntu (or maybe even kubuntu, but probably not).
[07:26] <guide_X> would it work better with a gforce gt610 in vbox? the pc I was failing with all day uses no accelleration
[07:26] <Zoom> hello guys i am newbie i need to know whts the good version for me 12.04 or 12.10..i am developer i want to use ubuntu for developing purpose
[07:26] <guide_X> the pc i'm currently on has the gt610
[07:26] <scotty^> genoobie (on the non-working install)
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !sputnik|Zoom,
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: The nice thing about lubuntu or the others is, pretty much anything that installs in ubuntu will install in them.
[07:26] <dr_willis> you did install the  vbox guest addations guide_X  ?
[07:26] <sote> Lubuntu is less feature packed on live cd ? so runs more efficiently ?
[07:26] <rems_> hello
[07:27] <dr_willis> guide_X:  best/fastest would be a full normal instgall...
[07:27] <nearst> Zoom, either will work for developer :)
[07:27] <rems_> how are you all?!
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Zoom, 12.10 would be my suggestion
[07:27] <dr_willis> lubuntu has a decent feature sset.. just not the  eyeandy
[07:27] <guide_X> when I went to install guest tools with vbox, it froze and then never booted again
[07:27] <guide_X> it got stuck at one of the [ ok ] stuff in the beginning
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Zoom, also the dell/ubuntu customized developer version is called "sputnik"
[07:27] <scotty^> genoobie: (on the non-working install)
[07:27] <guide_X> I rebooted a few times and it was just hosed, so I went for a reinstall
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> sote: It's a lightweight version of Ubuntu. Instead of some of the ubuntu applications, it uses others. Like Gnumeric instead of LibreOffice Calc.
[07:28] <guide_X> I am afraid to install the tools now heh
[07:28] <nearst> guide_X, u install expension pack for vbox?
[07:28] <dr_willis> i belive theres a site somewhere that has vbox images also for differnt os's  - but those might  be altereed from a normal ubuntu install
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: Actually installing the tools might be a good idea.
[07:28] <sote> guide_x: remove your graphics card and plug it back in... tricks it into thinking it's brand new then try to solve your issues
[07:28] <dr_willis> guide_X:  so install lubuntu-desktop package and see how well it workss
[07:28] <rems_> hey, is there data and general conscience about an increse of the kernal panics with the new ubuntu versions? 12.xx and 11xx too?!
[07:28] <rems_> just to know
[07:29] <guide_X> hmm i'm afraid to heh
[07:29] <rems_> because i experience it with different computers
[07:29] <sote> thanks PatrickDickey
[07:29] <guide_X> are those even made by the same people
[07:29] <dr_willis> guide_X:  you do know you can backup and clone vmware installs?
[07:29] <dr_willis> err vbox instals ;)
[07:29] <guide_X> yeah
[07:29] <scotty^> rems: That data is in launchpad if you use the correct query URI
[07:29] <rems_> so i can't install new versions and can't get the benefice of updates!
[07:29] <cfhowlett> rems_, no hard stats that i know of, but I'd suggest the LTS version to avoid those kind of issues ... for the most part
[07:29] <dr_willis> backup your setup... play with it.. restore it if needed
[07:29] <guide_X> but I hadn't thjought of it all day
[07:29] <guide_X> but I will
[07:30] <guide_X> I think i'll try it on this machine instead
[07:30] <dr_willis> the vbox manual is worth reading also....
[07:30] <guide_X> it has the beefy video
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: http://virtualboximages.com/Free.VirtualBox.VDI.Downloads I haven't tried these, nor do I recommend them. But, they're there. And there's an ubuntu 12.10 one.
[07:30] <guide_X> hmm cool
[07:30] <scotty^> genoobie: ????
[07:30] <guide_X> i'll give it a shot
[07:30] <dr_willis> vbox really isent using your video card.. untill you install the guest  addations...
[07:31] <guide_X> hmm ok
[07:31] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: apparently the driver is at fault http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[07:31] <guide_X> I guess I was afraid to use it after that first time
[07:31] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: ubuntu loads the wrong driver
[07:31] <sote> learn from trial and error
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> ArmoredDragoon: Does the site tell you how to fix the problem?
[07:31] <rems_> cfhowlett, yeah?! LTS you say... i'll try it with a livecd
[07:31] <rems_> but i think i tried it
[07:31] <rems_> cfhowlett, 12.04?!
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !LTS|rems_,
[07:32] <rems_> cfhowlett, i tried it, but it was on usb live, could be a prob?!
[07:32] <guide_X> hmm brb, thanks for the help
[07:32] <rems_> ubottu,
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rems_,  usb shouldn't effect kernel performance ...
[07:33] <rems_> ubottu, cfhowlett :  i tried it, but it was on usb live, could be a prob?!
[07:33] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: yeah
[07:33] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: well, mostly
[07:33] <rems_> lol ubottu
[07:33] <rems_> ah ah :)
[07:33] <rems_> ok cfhowlett
[07:33] <rems_> cfhowlett, hmmm
[07:34] <nearst> gj ubottu
[07:35] <rems_> cfhowlett, i can't install new versions and get the update, i only can use ubuntu 10.xx, from 11.xx, iget a problem :) the same with the new versions of linux mint, etc, debian too
[07:35] <scotty^> genoobie:  That file is not in that diretory on my 12.04 32 bit install, but I don't have an S3 card.  That directory does have drivers for a lot of other cards that I don't have though.
[07:35] <sote> <-- is away from computer
[07:35] <rems_> cfhowlett, do they share something in common? about the kernel or something?!
[07:36] <scotty^> genoobie:  So you might need to copy it there manually
[07:36] <cfhowlett> rems_ what error message do you get on update failure ...
[07:36] <nearst> try with sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[07:37] <cfhowlett> rems_, are you on some funky homebuilt computer with customized hardware or something?
[07:37] <rems_> cfhowlett, nope, with my 10.10 installed, it is said that the version is no longer supported and that i have to upgrade in order to get the update in the future
[07:37] <rems_> cfhowlett, lol, i am on an acer aspire 9920
[07:38] <cfhowlett> rems_, and you're getting kernel panics with multiple distros?  I'd still suspect hardware
[07:38] <rems_> cfhowlett, yes
[07:38] <dr_willis> definatly sounds  like suspect hardware
[07:39] <rems_> dr_willis, cfhowlett : what kind of suspision?! sick CPU?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> rems_, check the OEM site and update everything.  Might be a new bios update or something ...
[07:39] <dr_willis> start with a memtest for a while... thats the easiest test to run
[07:40] <sobersabre> hi. I have added a new hdd 500Gbi (currently located as sdb) into a quantal i686 machine with 4g mem and an old 160Gbi disk
[07:40] <sobersabre> I want to lvm'ize it.
[07:40] <dr_willis> a good dusting and reseating of the ram never hurts ;) unless you zap it with static
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> add it to the pv and extend the vg then the lvm sobersabre
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: so you have an existing lvm disk i assume?
[07:40] <sobersabre> question is: what partitions to keep inside the LVM ? any partitions to avoid LVM ?
[07:40] <qasim> how to install .tar files.... when i try to run the command "./configure" it says no such file or directory......... please help
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: new disk should have no partitions if so you can wipe the partitiona and add the whole disk
[07:41] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: nope. the current disk is a plain partitioning scheme - /boot, /, /tmp, /var, /home, /aux
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  you extract the  archives (tar is an archive) then you see what it extraccted
[07:41] <scotty^> !tar
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  what are you trying to install exactly?
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: ok then are you using lvm anywhere on that system presently?
[07:41] <qasim> i extracted tar files in the home folder
[07:41] <qasim> and then i tried to run the ./configure command
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  so you cd'd into the directory it made?
[07:42] <scotty^> On the command line i think it's untar
[07:42] <dr_willis> qasim:  you hace to be in the source codes directory ;)
[07:42] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: yes. and I don't want to just ADD it, I want to replace the old disk, keep the data on the new one, use it as the main, and then turn the old disk into a backup store.
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: gotcha
[07:42] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I remember there were times when systems had difficulty to boot from LVM<
[07:42] <qasim> i extracted it in the home folder ....so i think there is no  need to change directory..right?
[07:43] <dr_willis> qasim:   why woild you think that?
[07:43] <sobersabre> I mean when /boot was on LVM.
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: correct its best to leave boot on a plain ext3/4
[07:43] <dr_willis> qasim:  ./configure is loooking for a file in the current directory... wwhich is NOt located in your home directory.. b ut in the source code directory
[07:43] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I'm from those who still keep /boot on ext2 :)
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> right on
[07:43] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: so how about swap ?
[07:43] <qasim> oh okay
[07:44] <dr_willis> qasim:  use the ls command to see whats in the directory? :) if theres no 'configure' file... then you are not in the right place
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> mines on ext4 the only real diff is a journal i suppose - sobersabre swap may be lvm
[07:44] <dr_willis> qasim:  what are you trying to compile?
[07:44] <qasim> dr_willis,  thanks
[07:44] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I think that would be all then :) cool.
[07:44] <qasim> some IP changer
[07:44] <dr_willis> ip chanager?  and whats it supposed to do exactly?
[07:45] <scotty^> qasim:  You want to change the Internet Protocol?
[07:45] <qasim> yeah
[07:45] <qasim> scotty^,  yeah
[07:45] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: all good =) - sobersabre just pvcreate the new disk to mark it as a pv and then vgcreate and lvcreate - then move your system over - i would say rather do a clean install to that LVM root (like name the lvm rootfs or such) and then rsync your home and re-install your packages or whatever order you like i guess ?
[07:45] <dr_willis> what is it supposed to do exactly?
[07:45] <scotty^> qasim:  You realise that your machine will not be able to access the Internet if you do that
[07:45] <qasim> erm
[07:46] <qasim> well
[07:46] <scotty^> qasim:  The networking protocols need to match.
[07:46] <qasim> no idea :(
[07:46] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: b/c of fstab re-edit ?
[07:46] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <SolarisBoy> fstab would need an edit - so would grub assuming the grub/mbr stays in the same place in your case -
[07:46] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: ^
[07:46] <scotty^> qasim: You have no idea what it does but you still want to compile it?
[07:47] <dr_willis> qasim:  you may gain more benifits by reading up on ubuntu and linux basics and fundamentals. ;)
[07:47] <rems_> cfhowlett, oem website?
[07:47] <dr_willis> because i bet you havent installed the proper developer tools either... yet qasim
[07:47] <qasim> dr_willis,  and scotty^  actually there are certain sites that does not accept my IP there fore i need to change the IP to get access
[07:47] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: so as long as I *remember* to edit the fstab properly (testing it with chroot), and to install the mbr properly, I can move data to the new lvm located partitions, I shall be good.
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> sure
[07:47] <rems_> oh, ok cfhowlett
[07:48] <dr_willis> qasim:   use a proxy or tor.
[07:48] <cfhowlett> rems_, original equipment manufacturer  e.g. Dell, Asus, etc.
[07:48] <dr_willis> qasim:  because i doubt if that app will 'alter your ip' from what they see....
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: now - dont take that for as simple as it sounds... just do it all right =) - eg move things over, ensure that grub/fstab point to the proper things
[07:48] <scotty^> qasim:  That's not your IP.  That's your IP address.  BIG difference.
[07:48] <rems_> yeah cfhowlett thanks
[07:48] <qasim> oh
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: but in general yes correct you can
[07:49] <scotty^> qasim:  The easiest solution is probably just to use a free web proxy
[07:49] <qasim> dr_willis,  i tried to find any web proxy
[07:49] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: never underestimate small step-by-step migration path :)
[07:49] <asa> fuck
[07:49] <dr_willis> qasim:  tor should work for you
[07:49] <qasim> but it does not support java applets
[07:49] <qasim> !tor
[07:50] <sobersabre> ok
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: =) right on - you'll be fine - in fact it seems you would have a system with one /boot and a standard / on std partitioning and also a / on lvm at the end -
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: so testing should be simple enough
[07:50] <rems_> cfhowlett, thank you! when you mean "update everything", you mean just the bios, right?! i have to install windows now, in order to do it :) ok, i'll try:)
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> so before you *delete* the initial system - test/boot - then youll be cool
[07:51] <kunji> qasim: You could also look into using a regular proxy, but tor is free and I think a better solution.
[07:51] <qasim> dr_willis,  scotty^  please recommend any free proxy web that supports java applets please
[07:51] <kunji> qasim: tor would be better
[07:51] <dr_willis> qasim:  no idea. i cant imagine why they dont support java applets
[07:52] <qasim> kunji,  olrite let me read up over tor and then i will get back to you guys if i faced any problem in installing
[07:52] <qasim> thanks heaps
[07:52] <dr_willis> not used tor in ages
[07:52] <cfhowlett> rems_, the hardware updates, if any, might improve performance.
[07:52] <guideX> hmm it's still slow, but I think it's faster now using the premade virtual machine
[07:52] <guideX> because the tools are installed
[07:53] <guideX> it seems a lot more usable
[07:53] <scotty^> qasim: The first one in a google search is http://www.zend2.com/  but I've never tried it.
[07:53] <qasim> scotty^,  ty..let me chk it
[07:54] <guideX> actually it's pretty fast...
[07:54] <bobafett> is there a common GUI for squid ?
[07:54] <vnc786> scotty^: can u help now
[07:54] <dr_willis> !ebox | bobafett
[07:55] <scotty^> vnc786: What is your motherboard model again?
[07:55] <bobafett> thanks
[07:55] <vnc786> using MB "gigabyte ga-350n" cpu amd dual core and using systemrescue bootable uub
[07:56] <vnc786> it has been shipped 2 weeks ago...
[07:58] <dr_willis> brand new cutting edge hardware. ;)
[07:58] <dr_willis> or has it been out for a while?
[08:02] <mvk> hi guys, i got a Broadcom 43224 wireless wifi card in my system
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> ok
[08:02] <mvk> after a kernel update, i need to run apt-get reinstall bcwm-sources   (exact package name i forgot)
[08:03] <mvk> but it depends on the linux kernel -headers, which need to match the running kernel
[08:03] <dr_willis> !headers
[08:03] <mvk> if i let my system update automatically, and i get a new kernel
[08:03] <mvk> this means, i need to install the latest kernel headers myself (by hand) using an ethernet cable
[08:03] <scotty^> vnc786:  That's  not right
[08:04] <mvk> is it possible to automatically get newer versions of the linux-headers?
[08:04] <scotty^> vnc786: Although if it's that new there might not be a newer BIOS yet.
[08:04] <mvk> (now every time i get a kernel update, my wifi breaks)
[08:04] <dr_willis> mvk: checked askubuntu.com? they may have an answer.
[08:05] <mvk> done, no answer
[08:05] <riz0n> After doing recent updates on my Ubuntu Server, I am getting nag that my /boot is 89% full. What files should I remove to free up space?
[08:05] <dr_willis> seen this asked in here befor also..
[08:05] <mvk> link?
[08:05] <mvk> ahh ok, in this chan
[08:06] <dr_willis> riz0n: how big is  /?
[08:06] <dr_willis> and./boot
[08:06] <mvk> if i would automatically get the latest linux-header package with every new kernel i get, its all fine :)
[08:07] <scotty^> vnc786: Did u mean GA-E350N?
[08:07] <guideX> it's perfectly usable for dev purposes with the guest software
[08:07] <riz0n> The / is 107.83 with 7.4% total in use. /boot must be around 222 megs I guess.
[08:07] <riz0n> ^107.83 GB
[08:08] <dr_willis> riz0n: you can remove old kernels basically
[08:08] <mvk> dr_willis, thanks for the (little) help
[08:08] <guideX> do you know how I can get rabbitcsv, it seems like only rabbit for gedit is available, but for ubuntu 11.04, it had rabbit baked into the gnume ui
[08:08] <mvk> all others.. if you want kernel headers to be updated with your kernel:
[08:08] <mvk> http://superuser.com/questions/215236/automatic-linux-headers-installation
[08:08] <riz0n> So anything not 3.2.0-17
[08:08] <riz0n> I mean -37 heh
[08:08] <Ben64> mvk: thats almost the answer
[08:08] <mvk> yeps
[08:08] <Ben64> mvk: more better answer is --- sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[08:09] <dr_willis> yep. keep like the last 2 or 3)
[08:09] <guideX> I could just right click in the folder view, and it had rabbit commands in the menus, like with tortoise
[08:09] <riz0n> Thanks :)
[08:09] <mvk> noo...  Ben64 , if you install linux-headers-generic, you always get the latest linux headers
[08:09] <Ben64> mvk: on some systems, yes
[08:09] <mvk> seriously
[08:09] <riz0n> I always wondered if there really was a purpose to keeping the old kernels around.
[08:09] <Ben64> mvk: my command line works on 100% of systems
[08:10] <mvk> Ben64, i feel like you're making something up ... to show off ur cool linux skills :D
[08:10] <mvk> because that guy of the topic writes 'Those meta-packages keep track of the installed kernel and get updated automagically when a new kernel (and hence a kernel-header) package is available.'
[08:10] <Ben64> mvk: the problem is not every system uses the generic kernel
[08:11] <mvk> Ben64, ok, now you have a good point
[08:11] <mvk> but i seem to: Linux mvkmbubu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:15:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:11] <Ben64> but if you tried my command line, it'd do linux-headers-generic :)
[08:11] <Ben64> try "echo sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`"
[08:11] <Ben64> to see what it'd do
[08:11] <mvk> all SUPER happy with my Ubuntu (on macbook air 2011)
[08:11] <riz0n> Good night my friends
[08:12] <mvk> ok
[08:12] <Ben64> just a little detail that is often overlooked
[08:12] <Ben64> noticed it when i installed on a 32bit system
[08:13] <mvk> Ben64, on my system it added 'generic' on the packagename
[08:13] <Ben64> yep
[08:13] <mvk> i guess with a low-latency kernel for example, it would add linux-headers-generic-lowlatency
[08:14] <Ben64> or pae
[08:14] <mvk> ok, but there is no metapackage for those kernels
[08:14] <Ben64> ooh, there isn't?
[08:14] <mvk> so you can get the kernel headers updated?
[08:15] <Ben64> there are linux-headers-generic-pae, linux-headers-lowlatency, linux-headers-lowlatency-pae
[08:15] <mvk> Ben64, there is .. linux-headers-lowlatency
[08:15] <liquidmetal> Is it possible to make my linux machine a wifi repeater?
[08:16] <mvk> yeps, so if you would install either of those; you wouldnt have to use your command
[08:16] <mvk> liquidmetal, i think its called a bridge
[08:16] <Ben64> my command would install whichever one it needs
[08:16] <liquidmetal> mvk: okay - let me look that up
[08:19] <liquidmetal> mvk: I'll need two wifi adapters on my laptop for that... so I guess that's not possible
[08:19] <nn0101> hi
[08:19] <cfhowlett> nn0101, greetings
[08:19] <mvk> liquidmetal, if you put youre wifi card into 'adhoc' mode
[08:19] <nn0101> just installed encrypted lvm on 12.10. now when booting it just goes into infinite
[08:19] <nn0101> cfhowlett: howdy
[08:20] <mvk> then you can connect with another machine to trough wifi to the laptop
[08:20] <nn0101> anyone can tell me what's happening?
[08:20] <mvk> liquidmetal,  but then you would need to use ethernet on the laptop
[08:20] <nn0101> i don't get any grub message or anything
[08:20] <cfhowlett> nn0101, hey.  sorry that's totally over my head.  stay in channel ... there're are some pretty clever people here.  Also consider #ubuntu-server
[08:20] <scotty^> liquidmetal:  U can also buy a wifi range extender
[08:21] <liquidmetal> scotty^: yup. Considering that as well.
[08:21] <cfhowlett> liquidmetal, or you can build  DIY extender
[08:21] <nn0101> cfhowlett: right
[08:21] <liquidmetal> cfhowlett: the one with the can?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> liquidmetal, indeed.  I also built a wifi predator ...
[08:22] <Bray90820> so
[08:22] <Bray90820> executing grub-install /dev/sda failed
[08:23] <Fuzzles> Can someone help me, how can i get my Driving Theory Disk working in ubuntu?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, sudo grub-install
[08:23] <Bray90820> from the live disc?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, is it supposed to be run in windows?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, correct
[08:23] <Bray90820> ok
[08:24] <Bray90820> but i should note that i have more then one drive
[08:24] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, Yes when i run it in wine it checks my requirements be fails because its not  windows any way round it?
[08:24] <Bray90820> 2 2TB drives as an LVM and a 40GB drive for the system
[08:24] <Bray90820> so how would i tell it where to install
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, you'll need to specify driven then and maybe partition.
[08:25] <Bray90820> it would be my /boot right
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, if wine won't run it, you might consider installing windows in a virtualbox and running your program in the box
[08:26] <Bray90820> cfhowlett would it go in my /boot
[08:26] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, Would that work? i mean will it detect that its windows adn work?
[08:26] <liquidmetal> cfhowlett scotty^ mvk, do you think it's possible to have an adsl model+router to act as a repeater?
[08:27] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: what error do you get when you try running it in wine?
[08:27] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 ..I installed to a 16 gb usb flash drive...installed grub-1.99 to sdc...when I press shift to bring up grub menu I get grub loading then it goes to another window
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, I'm going to bail as your setup is way more complex than anything I've ever booted.  please ask in channel.
[08:28] <Bray90820> what i am asking is does grub install to /boot
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, virtual box windows should run just as *well* as native installed windows ... lots of people keep an old XP in a box for just such a use.
[08:28] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: as far as running in a virtual machine, yes it would work. Because as far as the disc (or Windows) is concerned, you'll *be* running Windows.
[08:28] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, That the disc says i dont have the requirements such as windows, its not a wine error its what the disc says
[08:28] <Bray90820> Anyone know where grub installs to?
[08:29]  * PatrickDickey has XP in one, Vista in another
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, this is a server?  also #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, PatrickDickey thanks guys what windows version you recommend?
[08:29] <Bray90820> well
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, whatever the disk requires
[08:29] <Bray90820> it's the desktop version
[08:30] <Bray90820> but i use it as a server
[08:30] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: whatever the disc requires and whatever you can legally get.
[08:30] <scotty^> liquidmetal: If it's mulithoned (two wifi adaptors), then yes.  Otherwise it will depend on the model of the router and whether the manufacturer included that feature - I doubt it though.  It should be fairly eveident if you login to your router and check the setup pages one by one.
[08:30] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, PatrickDickey, ok thanks i have windows 7 so ill use that
[08:31] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: Sounds good. You can also have wine report that it's running Windows 7.
[08:32] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, what in a VM?
[08:32] <Bray90820> so does anyone know where grub installs to
[08:32] <PatrickDickey> Bray90820: Grub installs to /boot/grub
[08:32] <Auv5> Bray90820: If you're looking for the grub config files, they can be found in /boot/grub.
[08:32] <Auv5> Oops.
[08:32] <Auv5> :P
[08:32] <Bray90820> so it is /boot
[08:32] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: No, I mean you can use winetricks to set your Windows Version in Wine. ANd install a few other files that it might need.
[08:33] <Auv5> Yes.
[08:34] <Bray90820> so to manually install grub it would be something such as
[08:34] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[08:35] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, is it worth trying a VM first?
[08:36] <timmm> hello Im wondering how to set the screen brightness with setpci
[08:36] <PatrickDickey> How often will you need to use it Fuzzles? that's what will make your decision.
[08:37] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, well as much as i can i guess as im learning to drive
[08:37] <Bray90820> to manually install grub would it be something such as
[08:37] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[08:37] <PatrickDickey> Then I'd say yes.
[08:37]  * PatrickDickey that was for Fuzzles
[08:38] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 ..I installed to a 16 gb usb flash drive...installed grub-1.99 to sdc...when I press shift to bring up grub menu I get grub loading then it goes to another window
[08:38] <PatrickDickey> Bray90820: man grub-install will give you the options.
[08:39] <nn0101> does encrypted lvm installation work on 12.10?
[08:39] <Bray90820> ok
[08:39] <Bray90820> i will try it
[08:39] <Bray90820> the worst thing that happens is i have to restore my LVM from a backup
[08:39] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, ok thanks ill try it and ill get back here if i need help thanks
[08:39] <iboB> hey can i set a directory (say ~/myinclude) to be used as a gcc include search path without adding it each time with -I
[08:40] <nn0101> i am starting to to think why my installation won't work even after installing grub on MBR and having unencrypted /boot.
[08:40] <nn0101> (and it's a fresh 12.10 installation! haha)
[08:40] <PatrickDickey> Good luck Fuzzles. If the issues are with Windows itself, we probably won't be able to help out. But if it's with the linux side of things, we should be able to.
[08:40] <nn0101> iboB: -I ~/myinclude
[08:41] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, ok thanks mate
[08:41] <iboB> nn0101, that precisely what i'm trying to avoid
[08:41] <iboB> *that's
[08:43] <nn0101> iboB: C_INCLUDE_PATH/CPP_INCLUDE_PATH
[08:43] <nn0101> iboB: make them your env. variable
[08:44]  * nn0101 checks to see if unencrypted lvm setup work
[08:44] <iboB> nn0101, thanks
[08:45] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install did not work
[08:45] <Bray90820> no command was founf
[08:45] <Bray90820> found
[08:47] <nn0101> Bray90820: did install grub to MBR not work for you? 12.10?
[08:47] <nn0101> s/install/installing
[08:47] <sig-wall> to use grub-install you have to install grub2-pc or grub2-efi package, depending on your hardware platform
[08:47] <nn0101> MBR = /dev/sda (512 bytes of your block device)
[08:47] <Bray90820> 12.04
[08:47] <RigidWig> how can I best find out what's blocking incoming remote smtp/telnet connections to an ubuntu server?
[08:48] <nn0101> Bray90820: grub-install /dev/sda (or whateveR)
[08:48] <nn0101> Bray90820: install to block device if there's no OS
[08:48] <nn0101> other OS
[08:48] <Bray90820> should i put the partition number
[08:48] <Bray90820> there is only ubuntu and an LVM
[08:48] <nn0101> no
[08:49] <nn0101> LVM is a volume mnagement thingy not an OS ;)
[08:49] <Bray90820> i know that
[08:49] <Bray90820> so ubuntu 12.04 is the only os installed
[08:49] <nn0101> is it encrypted?
[08:50] <nn0101> i am trying to understand if i shouldn't use LVM+luks on my 12.10. i think its fucked setup
[08:51] <nn0101> atm, it fails to boot
[08:51] <nn0101> LVM+luks+unecrypted boot partition+MBR on block dev => fail
[08:52] <Noskcaj> nn0101, the report a bug
[08:52] <Noskcaj> *then
[08:52] <dr_willis> jyou need more buzzwords and codes/letters ;)
[08:52] <nn0101> i am just suprised no one's looked into it from ubuntu-dev
[08:52] <Bray90820> grub-install doesn't work
[08:52] <dr_willis> !luks
[08:52] <nn0101> and that such a mianstream distro would let such a bug be present in releases at all
[08:53] <dr_willis> im not even sure what LUKS is. ;) i see so many people in hwere with lvm problems  i stay with the simple old ways
[08:54] <dr_willis> bbl.
[08:54] <Bray90820> well i have no lvm problem
[08:54] <nn0101> if the distros don't support luks, take the freaking option off the debian install. otherwise, if you intend to support it, do it properly!
[08:55] <sindhu_> Hello, anybody around?
[08:55] <nn0101> atm, its ally willy nilly
[08:55] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, only about 1000 or so
[08:56] <bool> Why is Memtest listed in the grub menu? Is it really that much need for testing memory for the regular user?
[08:56] <Bray90820> so grub-install did not work
[08:56] <sindhu_> I am unable to compile empathy from git.gnome.org/empathy master branch in quantal and raring (cloud-images.ubuntu.com vagrant box)
[08:56] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, raring is supported in #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <Auv5> It's awfully fun to say "I'm unable to compile empathy"
[08:57] <cfhowlett> bool, memory failure is common ...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Auv5, clever
[08:58] <sindhu_> I am not new to command line nor to ubuntu. am an intern with GNOME, am trying to test out empathy for a bug to fix. can somebody help me solve dependencies please?
[08:58] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: thank you, I'll check there for raring related issues.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, might need to take this to empathy support for best results
[08:59] <Bray90820> could i do sudo apt-get install grub
[08:59] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: well, #empathy on irc.gimp.net seems quiet since morning since then I've twice but no response
[08:59] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: am time bound here, hence the asking for help on this channel
[09:00] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, understood
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !ask
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !details
[09:02] <Avedo> Hi there! I've a problem installing qt-components-ubuntu.I already asked for a solution at the #ubuntu-phone channel, but didn't get a reply yet.  If I try to install the package,  It says that some dependencies e.g. libqt5core5 are unmet. I stumbled across this error following the instructions at http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ Could someone provide a solution to this problem?
[09:04] <sindhu_> I'm a problem with compiling Empathy from git.gnome.org/empathy master branch. I'm running Ubuntu qantal (12.10) in Virtualbox using Vagrant and vagrant box quantal64. I get the following error: http://pastebin.ca/2309940 , I have already gotten build-dep stuff for empathy
[09:04] <sindhu_> I have* a problem I meant
[09:07] <auronandace> sindhu_: did you read what it said about the telepathy-logger package?
[09:08] <sindhu_> auronandace: Yes I did, I have tried a apt-get install libtelepathy-logger-dev
[09:09] <sindhu_> apt-get says its already in the newest version (which means it's installed) auronandace
[09:09] <auronandace> sindhu_: the dev packages are not newer, they just contain whats needed for development (headers and whatnot)
[09:09] <sindhu_> I also have telepathy-logger-0.6.0 in raring but I get the same error message
[09:09] <sindhu_> auronandace: what do you suggest I do?
[09:10] <auronandace> sindhu_: of course you get the same error, it says you need 0.8
[09:11] <sindhu_> auronandace: Oh I see, will compiling telepathy-logger from http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-logger/telepathy-logger-0.8.0.tar.bz2 do?
[09:11] <dr_willis> so new its not  in rareing. ;)
[09:12] <auronandace> sindhu_: i suppose so, but compiling stuff really should be a last resort
[09:12] <dr_willis> at least try to make a .deb of the newer. so its easier to remove.. there might be ppa's out for it also. that would be a better plan
[09:12] <juk> why apt-get hangs on install/update, goes up to 50% and freezes
[09:12] <juk> says 'waiting for headers'
[09:13] <rm200910> hello. can the alt-tab behaviour of Unity be changed to be the same as the gnome2 behaviour?
[09:13] <sindhu_> auronandace: because I don't think there's one for ubuntu, there's an RPM deb as I can see from google search
[09:13] <dr_willis> rm200910:  the ccsm config tool for compiz has alternative alt-tabing plugins and lots of settings..  you may want to play with them
[09:13] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[09:14] <auronandace> sindhu_: rpm is entirely different to deb, there is no such thing as a rpm deb
[09:14] <rm200910> thanks dr_willis . I will have a look
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpkgs.org%2Fdownload%2Ftelepathy-logger-devel(x86-64)&ei=6NgMUdPYBMnNrQeD4YHoBw&usg=AFQjCNGbHXz7dELA3PrbIF6RiEuFYn6dcQ
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: err http://pkgs.org/download/telepathy-logger-devel(x86-64)
[09:14] <bipul> Any one know how to calculate timestamp ?. http://pastebin.com/UeWTHDWb
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: oh sorry I was mislead by the webpage's title
[09:15] <sindhu_> sindhu_: am not familiar with RPM systems
[09:15] <sindhu_> err auronandace am not familiar with RPM systems
[09:15] <sindhu_> thanks
[09:18] <dONALD> hi people
[09:18] <dONALD> anyone knows stuff about ubuntu customization kit?
[09:19] <dONALD> I have a few errors
[09:19] <dr_willis> i know 12.04+ broke a lot of them :)
[09:20] <dONALD> when the program tries to upgrade the kernel, it says it cannot open casper-functions
[09:20] <dONALD> it broke a lot of what?
[09:20] <auronandace> bipul: i've seen you ask some very odd questions without any context whatsoever, how can anyone help you if they have no idea what you are attempting to do?
[09:20] <dONALD> sorry, english is not my natural language
[09:21] <dr_willis> when 12.04 came out - a lot of theold customization  programs and remastering tools and guides  no longer worked....
[09:21] <dr_willis> pay attention to the date of any guides you are following
[09:22] <dONALD> I do not follow any yet, I did not needed it
[09:22] <nn0101> device.map's fucked
[09:23] <bipul> auronandace, I want's to calculate Timestamp for my CPU.  i.e Timestamp=Cycle/frequency. It is related to CPU cycle counter.
[09:23] <nn0101> i chuck in the same usb, and 12.10 boots fine
[09:23] <nn0101> time to fix that
[09:23] <auronandace> bipul: then you should say that when you first ask your question
[09:23] <dONALD> anyway... uck doesn't seem to find the script called casper-functions
[09:23] <rm200910> dr_willis: I have the ccsm panel and I'm overwhelmed by the number of options to configure. Where to change the alt-tab behaviour?
[09:24] <rm200910> I'm using 12.04 "precise"
[09:24] <dr_willis> rm200910:  no idea. theres like 3 differnt alt tabbing type plugind with dofferent looks.
[09:24] <dr_willis> and im not on a ubuntu box where i can look
[09:25] <dr_willis> i recall 2 being enabled.. one on alt-tab one on super-tab
[09:25] <dr_willis> and like 2 others not enabled at all
[09:25] <rm200910> dr_willis: would it be part of the "unity plugin" ?
[09:25] <dr_willis> try the seaarch feature of  the app.. see if you can find whats bound to alt-tab
[09:26] <dr_willis> rm200910:  nope i dont think so
[09:26] <dr_willis> since you can alt tab without unity. ;)
[09:26] <bipul> auronandace, i have already given the detail's in pastebin.
[09:26] <sote> ok while i'm in ccsm, what do I untick to stop windows sticking to each other
[09:26] <Bray90820> face palm when i was installing ubuntu i accidentally selected the LVM as the bootloader location
[09:26] <the8thbit> Hello. When I run certain software, I get the error "ALSA output error (snd_pcm_open): No such file or directory", and another for input. I suspect this is because I spilled tea on my onboard soundcard and I have to use a usb soundcard, but ALSA is still trying to use my onboard card. How do I figure out if this is the case and change my default soundcard?
[09:27] <dr_willis> the8thbit:  try that pavuchooser app yet? or was it pavucontrol  ..
[09:28] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[09:28] <dr_willis> i use that one to switch btween my  hdmi or analog audio
[09:28] <the8thbit> Nope, I'll try it out. Thanks, dr_willis.
[09:29] <sote> ahh wobbly windows un-tick snap inverted! tries that
[09:30] <dr_willis> wobbly windows = fun for about 30 seconds
[09:30] <sote> much easier :)
[09:30] <sote> amor is fun too
[09:30] <the8thbit> Ah, is 'output' different from 'playback'?
[09:30] <sote> time wasting fun
[09:30] <droidboi> flash is not working in firefox with youtube. I installed 12.10 yesterday. Any ideas?
[09:31] <dr_willis> droidboi:  several peole have been complaining of flash issues today..   personally i use  youtube flash downloader plugins to watch the videos.. or a flash-replaccer plugin that plays them in  vlc
[09:32] <dONALD> ehh I know what the problem is
[09:32] <the8thbit> Perhaps this card does not have the capability for output , but it does for playback?
[09:32] <dONALD> probably
[09:32] <dr_willis> playback = output to me... but im not on m y pc to look at the app
[09:32] <sote> desktop keeps flickering, sometimes saying compiz has crashed but it still seems to be working.. guest Cairo Dock don't like my pc .. Gnome likes it tho,.. o/  back later
[09:33] <kunji> I like youtube-dl for getting the youtube videos ^_^
[09:33] <dONALD> before the updates, it needs some additional packages
[09:34] <dr_willis> its amazeing how nicer and speedier many sites are with flash disabled....
[09:34] <droidboi> dr_willis: "youtube flash downloader plugins" doesn't mean much to me. What do I have to do?
[09:34] <theadmin> So I installed Ubuntu using automatic partitioning once in a while, now I only have /dev/sda1 for my ext4 root and /dev/sda5 for swap. Where'd the other 4 go? :/
[09:34] <dr_willis> droidboi:  look for some firefox plugins to download flash videos
[09:35] <droidboi> ok doc
[09:35] <dr_willis> theadmin:  you dont have to make 4 primary partions.. th first Logical partion is sda5
[09:35] <theadmin> dr_willis: Ah, so it made an extended somewhere... I better fire up gparted to look at the mess it made properly
[09:35] <dr_willis> sda2 is technically a 'extended' partition thats holding sda5
[09:36] <dr_willis> 1 primary an the rest in extended is how its done it for ages
[09:36] <erupter> hi guys. is there a way I can launch something (either script or program) from a machine, and have this launch other processes on a range of remote machines? what's the easiest way?
[09:37] <dr_willis> erupter:  ssh will be your friend ;)
[09:37] <dr_willis> !ssh
[09:37] <theadmin> ..so it gave me a 5.89GB swap. How does it come up with that number...
[09:37] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i think it looks at the phase of the moon and the zodiacs.... ;)
[09:37] <theadmin> Crazy thing, I'll partition manually the next time
[09:37] <droidboi> dr_willis: Shockwave Flash is installed
[09:38] <kunji> erupter: Or, if you're looking for more of a parallel execution sort of setup you should look at MPI
[09:38] <nn0101> dr_willis: lvm is actually quite nice.
[09:38] <erupter> dr_willis, ubottu I know what ssh is and I'm using it right now. what I have to achieve is automatic multiple machine process launching. so the thing I would need should open x ssh shells automatically, and attempt to launch processes there.
[09:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Given 6GB RAM, I suppose it tried to make swap = RAM but some limit stopped it.
[09:38] <erupter> kunji, message parsing interface?
[09:38] <dr_willis> nn0101:  yea. Im biased against fancy things.. because i sit in here all day and see the dozens of  the miniority that have issues with those things
[09:38] <kunji> erupter: yeah, ssh with cron would be easier though
[09:38] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i would think it woul dbe   ram+ a little bit more
[09:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  i recall some multi-ssh tools in the repos
[09:39] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, no matter how you look at it, 5.89 is less than 6.
[09:39] <erupter> kunji, no fancy message parsing, I could do that with zeromq easy enough, but I'd rather use something stupid if possible.
[09:39] <erupter> I only need to start 1 command on a range of machines
[09:39] <nn0101> dr_willis: oh yes. definitely.
[09:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  with the keyless auth.. you coulld write a bash script to do that. ;)
[09:40] <kunji> erupter: Yeah, go with cron for scheduling and ssh to actually make the connection and execute with keyless auth
[09:40] <Tyson__> hello
[09:40] <erupter> dr_willis, already using passwordless auth, remote user is the same on each machine so one auth is enough. care to elaborate on how that script would look like?
[09:40] <erupter> kunji, I can't do no scheduling it's not deterministic. it's launched from another process
[09:40] <dr_willis> erupter:  i reall from the ssh docs/books a way to ssh and run a command.. no need for any interactive user
[09:41] <Tyson__> i need help
[09:41] <dr_willis> i forget the syntax
[09:41] <kunji> erupter: Oh, then you don't even need cron ^_^
[09:41] <Tyson__> am i able to run .exe files with ubuntu?
[09:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  i got a ubuntu-remote app on my phone that does it ;)
[09:41] <dr_willis> !wine | Tyson__
[09:41] <nn0101> dr_willis: this is what 12.10 (lvm+luks) does in default installation mode. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1069856
[09:42] <nn0101> specifically it fucks up grub
[09:42] <Tyson__> ok and what about java programs such as Minecraft?
[09:42] <nn0101> and device.map
[09:42] <theadmin> Tyson__: Java runs natively.
[09:42] <Tm_T> nn0101: language please
[09:42] <theadmin> Tyson__: I play Minecraft all the time, it runs even better than on Windows.
[09:42] <Tyson__> ok well ive tried it before it never works for me
[09:43] <ziyadb> Hey guys, where is the update-rc.d file located?
[09:43] <nn0101> Tm_T: it's not an offense where i am.
[09:43] <theadmin> Tyson__: Get minecraft.jar from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and run it with OpenJDK (make sure it's installed first)
[09:43] <nn0101> Tm_T: maybe it is to you.
[09:43] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  try 'which commandname'
[09:43] <ziyadb> Oh, it's not a file, it's a command.
[09:44] <nn0101> five year olds
[09:44] <nn0101> haha
[09:44] <theadmin> nn0101: This channel is meant to be family friendly. Follow the rules or leave.
[09:44] <Tyson__> ok i will do wen i install
[09:44] <nn0101> settle down man
[09:44] <Myrtti> nn0101: you are in this channel and you are asked not to use it.
[09:44] <Tyson__> im using window at the moment
[09:44] <ziyadb> dr_willis: thank you!
[09:44] <nn0101> no need to be all jumpy
[09:44] <dr_willis> !upstart | ziyadb
[09:44] <Tm_T> nn0101: please familiarise yourself with the channel topic and its links, if you like to discuss the rules further join us in #ubuntu-ops but not here
[09:45] <nn0101> Tm_T: i've been in this channel longer than you're born
[09:45] <shieh> my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:45] <nn0101> so i know the rules exactly.
[09:45] <Tyson__> whats the difference with the FPS than windows?
[09:45] <theadmin> Tyson__: There should be no difference. Minecraft is not a Windows app, it's a Java app so it runs the same anywhere.
[09:45] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  it can depend on to many things.
[09:46] <ziyadb> dr_willis: yep, thank you! Reading.
[09:46] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  whats your video card?
[09:46] <ziyadb> dr_willis: though that presented me with a new issue, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/openerp-server: file does not exist
[09:46] <Tyson__> intel
[09:46] <theadmin> Tyson__: Mine runs at around 50 FPS most of the time it would seem.
[09:46] <serp_> Tm_T be flexing his op muscles
[09:46] <Tyson__> its a 5yr machine
[09:46] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  perhaps its managed by upstart
[09:46] <Tyson__> on window mine runs 20 fps
[09:46] <Tyson__> at 70 percent cpu
[09:47] <dr_willis> intel should be very problem free... ;)
[09:47] <theadmin> Tyson__: Well, you have a horrible graphics card and you did say the machine is old. But well, expect the same performance as on Windows, maybe slightly better, that's all I can say
[09:47] <ziyadb> dr_willis: and how do I figure out if it is?
[09:48] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  look in /etc/init/
[09:48] <Tyson__> ok, well it aint all too bad i guess i still get a decent frame rate but still
[09:48] <dr_willis> 20fps is decent? guess it is for minecraft  ;)
[09:48] <irccrusher> File:///
[09:48] <Tyson__> haha
[09:48] <irccrusher> amidoingitrite???
[09:48] <ziyadb> dr_willis: hmm, no .conf file exists for this specific application. But I recall there being one in another directory..
[09:48] <Tyson__> sometimes i get 50
[09:49] <shieh> dr_willis : my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:49] <Tyson__> that when its running alone without anything else running at all
[09:49] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  in any other dir would not be a upstart config file for that service ;)
[09:49] <Tyson__> like virtually nuthing
[09:49] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well Minecraft is a resource hog, it needs 1G RAM at minimum, and you really need a decent GPU for it. Intel... seriously doesn't cut it
[09:49] <rick__> I have an issue with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. The panel disappears when I click on the Halt button. Even if I use the one in the System menu, the same thing happens. So I have to use Terminal to shut down
[09:49] <dr_willis> in a totally dark  cave witth no lights.. you get 25 fps? ;)
[09:50] <theadmin> rick__: The desktop version of Hardy isn't supported anymore. Please upgrade.
[09:50] <Tyson__> i have 2gb ram
[09:50] <Tyson__> i am able to run 64 bit system on the machine
[09:50] <Tyson__> with nearly no hassle
[09:51] <ziyadb> dr_willis: so how do I fix this?
[09:51] <theadmin> Tyson__: No need to worry then, heh. Ubuntu generally performs better than Windows so you may expect a speed increase with most tasks you do.
[09:51] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  i know nothing of that service. so i dont know what you are trying to do
[09:52] <ziyadb> dr_willis: I want to make it run on startup. That's all.
[09:52] <ziyadb> It works and stuff, openerp-server command.
[09:52] <Tyson__> ok. and does linux/ubuntu have skype?
[09:52] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  and how did you install that service?
[09:52] <ziyadb> which openerp-server returns usr/local/bin/openerp-server
[09:52] <theadmin> Tyson__: Yes, it's in the repositories (Software Center)
[09:52] <ziyadb> It had a setup.py in the app directory.
[09:52] <Tyson__> ok
[09:53] <theadmin> Tyson__: So you can install it with one click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/skype
[09:53] <Tyson__> ok
[09:53] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  check their docs they may have info on making a upstart.conf for it.. or  a script in / etc/init.d/
[09:53] <Tyson__> My other machine is beast :) i get 200 fps at least
[09:53] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  or just start it from  /etc/rc.local
[09:53] <theadmin> Tyson__: That's too fast, lol
[09:53] <Tyson__> na
[09:54] <shieh> dr_willis:haven't answer?
[09:54] <dr_willis> shieh:  Huh?
[09:54] <shieh> dr_willis : my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:54] <dr_willis> no idea...
[09:54] <Tyson__> its a modified Machine my cuzin made for me
[09:54] <ziyadb> dr_willis: alright, I'll try to figure it out. Thank you! For real.
[09:54] <fr0ggie> If youtube or other flash stuff on chrome gives "Couldn't load plugin" the fix is at https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/PEgELQH5zcg/c5lHKwslBcwJ -- basically rm -r ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/
[09:54] <Tyson__> except i havnt had a screen for a while
[09:54] <fr0ggie> This was broken today by a chrome update
[09:54] <Tyson__> so this is the computer im using
[09:54] <fr0ggie> Seems to affect debian and ubuntu
[09:55] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  post that on askubuntu.com   :) and put a big star on it   :)
[09:55] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: cant-- just observed, searched, found and applied fix on my box and thought i'd share
[09:56] <dr_willis> wonder if chromium browser and firefox also suffer the same issue
[09:56] <fr0ggie> so far confirmed with a few other people on irc that it indeed fixes it
[09:56] <theadmin> fr0ggie: That's best posted to the forums or something. IRC is to volatile, nobody will search for this message, they'd just ask again and nobody will even remember this
[09:56] <fr0ggie> theadmin: Someone else can post it
[09:57] <fr0ggie> i figured i'd pass it along to others who can post it
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nah, both work fine. Google provides it's own Flash plugin which may have bugs
[09:57] <Tyson__> here is my computer stats: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5450 166 ghz, Instaled Memory 2GB Ram, Running a 64 bit system
[09:57] <dr_willis> so we finally figured out that the chromium-browser does not use the same flash as google-chrome?
[09:57] <Tyson__> sorry 1.66 ghz
[09:57] <fr0ggie> Here's detailed info https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790#c31
[09:57] <Tyson__> duo core
[09:57] <dr_willis> someone was asking that the other day in here
[09:58] <fr0ggie> And chromium im pretty sure uses system flash player
[09:58] <fr0ggie> chrome://flash will tell you for sure
[09:58] <theadmin> dr_willis: Chromium browser doesn't have built-in Flash, it uses whatever NPAPI provides (normally installed by flashplugin-installer), Google has it's own Flash player (Pepper) which is shipped with Chrome.
[09:58] <fr0ggie> Flash plugin	11.5.31.138 /home/nn/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/11.5.31.138/libpepflashplayer.so
[09:58] <fr0ggie> Flash plugin	11.2 r202 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (not used)
[10:03] <Tyson__> Another question
[10:03] <Tyson__> is linux harder to hack or get viruses?
[10:04] <Tyson__> or is that only mac ?
[10:05] <kunji> Relative to Windows you mean?  Both are more difficult.
[10:05] <Tyson__> i mean with the difference
[10:05] <Tyson__> Like is it harder to hack a linux machine than a microsoft one?
[10:05] <kunji> yes
[10:06] <Tyson__> ok
[10:06] <fr0ggie> wtf
[10:06] <Tyson__> and are linux machine actually used for hacking? is that why they use it?
[10:06] <fr0ggie> oh nm.. just realized which chan im in :)
[10:07] <Tyson__> lol
[10:08] <fr0ggie> some of us have never used windows, but the few times i've seen and touched it-- it pissed me off
[10:08] <Tyson__> finally half downloaded!
[10:09] <fr0ggie> Cool, you will be happy to get away from windows.
[10:09] <nn0101> lol
[10:09] <fr0ggie> Welcome to the light side!
[10:09] <Tyson__> really?
[10:10] <ziyadb> dr_willis: ping :)
[10:10] <nn0101> pang
[10:10] <ziyadb> dr_willis: found a provided init script included in the app directory. Except it errors out at . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions <- not found.
[10:11] <Tyson__> i really think i have a bug in my machine at the moment with windows :/
[10:11] <Tyson__> The mouse auto clicks at random times
[10:11] <nn0101> Tyson__: you means windows is a bug?
[10:11] <Tyson__> and when i right click it left clicks
[10:12] <fr0ggie> Tyson__: thats just windows
[10:12] <dr_willis> you got the mouse upside down
[10:12] <Tyson__> and when i looked at my processes there was a program unknown to me
[10:12] <Tyson__> it was vbs
[10:12] <Tyson__> vbs.exe
[10:13] <fr0ggie> sounds like you have worms
[10:13] <Tyson__> yes i think so
[10:13] <fr0ggie> but you are downloading the deworming pill now lol
[10:13] <fr0ggie> most windows machines are infected
[10:13] <Tyson__> my antivirus didnt even pick it up
[10:13] <Tyson__> one i actually paid for
[10:13] <dr_willis> you shouldent rely on just one. ;)
[10:14] <Tyson__> no i dont
[10:14] <fr0ggie> it infected the antivirus, now when it scans, it infects files too
[10:14] <Tyson__> i have threatfire too
[10:14] <nn0101> Tyson__: don't worry about it. i had windows oem, removed the sucker and installed ubuntu
[10:14] <Tyson__> brb
[10:17] <Tyson__> 482 out of 753
[10:18] <Tyson__> why in hell does this show our ip's?
[10:18] <dr_willis> becasue it dosent really matter? or perhaps because  IRC is decades old
[10:18] <dr_willis> !cloak
[10:18] <TheGrey> o/ Is someone wants to remove pulseaudio should they remove the libraries for it to?
[10:19] <dr_willis> and i mean literally... IRC has been around since  like  1987
[10:19] <fr0ggie> 1991 or so
[10:19] <Tyson__> ye
[10:19] <fr0ggie> RFC was 1993
[10:19] <dr_willis> I  did irc in college.. and that was from 1986  to 1990
[10:20] <dr_willis> but it was brand new. ;)
[10:20] <tester> hello, is it possible to hibernate without error messages being shown? (I mean is there an option to disable error messages being shown? (without installing any other hibernate methods)
[10:20] <Tyson__> se i cant even swap tabs on my browsers
[10:20] <dr_willis> i even irc'd on the old green-bar printing terminals...
[10:20] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: idk RFC 1459 is dated iirc 1993 and irc was only 3 or 4 years old at that point
[10:20] <Myrtti> guise... Ubuntu support
[10:21] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  guess i was cutting edge. ;)
[10:21] <Space-Duck> I'm currently running Mint 14 and I want to switch to Ubuntu... Can I install ubuntu without wiping out my /home directory (it's on it's on partition)? If so, how?
[10:22] <fr0ggie> sadly i at one point had literally all the IRC rfcs memorized, as i wrote irc to global village (now long extinct phone chat protocol) gateway
[10:22] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  use the custome/somthing else option in the installer
[10:22] <fr0ggie> Anyways, its sleep time-- hope my chrome post helps some folks
[10:22] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  ;) i was doing good just  to compile irc  (the client) on the sun systems we were using...
[10:22] <fr0ggie> Remember that's rm -r ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash
[10:22] <alFReD-NSH> Hi, I'm trying to install new Ubuntu(12.10) on my old(12.10 again, but broken), but the USB doesn't boot and hangs on the splash screen. I've already asked it on askUbuntu with as much as details I could find. http://askubuntu.com/q/250482/32034
[10:23] <Space-Duck> dr_willis: do I just tell it to install to the /ext4 partition... and it'll overwrite mint?
[10:23] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Heh sunos makes me throwup in my mouth a little every time i see it still in use ;)
[10:23] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  yes. you want to format /   but not /home
[10:23] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  best to make backups first. in any case
[10:25] <dr_willis> and add your user back with the same name. ;)
[10:25] <dr_willis> i hope you dident use an encrypted home also...
[10:29] <Tyson__> what games can u play on linux?
[10:30] <fr0ggie> there's a bunch
[10:30] <fr0ggie> but ps3 is for games, computers are for productive things :P
[10:30] <iceroot> Tyson__: have a look at steam on the linux-section
[10:30] <dr_willis> !games
[10:30] <Tyson__> like could i install oblivion?
[10:31] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  you got a beefy system? ;)
[10:31] <dr_willis> not all windows games will work.. not all steam games are ported to linux stteam..
[10:31] <dr_willis> you can also try windows steam in linux via wine.
[10:32] <kepler> they have steam for linux
[10:32] <fr0ggie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKVl-XtOP8&list=UUBE-FO9JUOghSysV9gjTeHw&index=23 sooo cute
[10:32] <dr_willis> !steam
[10:32] <fr0ggie> Nixie shows good open source games on linux
[10:33] <funky1> hi guys, a got a question, uuid is a specific to a hdd, but when i take the hdd out of system one and put it into another computer, should the uuid be the same or not?
[10:34] <dr_willis> uuid is specific to a filesystem on the hd.
[10:34] <dr_willis> and it will stay the same
[10:34] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Bad news!
[10:34] <dr_willis> !uuid
[10:34] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Stupid pepperflash keeps coming back
[10:34] <funky1> dr_willis: are you sure?
[10:34] <dr_willis> yes
[10:34] <funky1> dr_willis: thanks a lot :)
[10:34] <dr_willis> only time ive seen uuids change is if you resuize the filesystem.. and even then it dosent always changve
[10:35] <dr_willis> you can chanve the uuid via the  tune2fs command i recall
[10:35] <Lynx> Cub
[10:35] <Cub> lol
[10:35] <Cub> hey does anyone know how i can install the gnome 3 desktop on ubuntu 12.10?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> guys, i'm lost myself now - my ubuntu won't connect - i'm in windows now, same lappie - /etc/network/interfaces looks ok - resolv.cannot be changed - what else to check ?
[10:35] <funky1> ok didn't want to change, just need to ID drives and wanted to make sure before starting, thanks again
[10:35] <dr_willis> cub you mean gnome-shell? its in the repos/package manager tools
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> guys, i'm lost myself now - my ubuntu won't connect - i'm in windows now, same lappie - /etc/network/interfaces looks ok - resolv.conf cannot be changed - what else to check ?   <-- correction
[10:36] <erupter> is there a way I can cut&paste *lines* from files using the terminal?
[10:36] <Cub> im not sure, i just want the desktop environment that ships with fedora
[10:36] <Cub> and from what i gathered that is the gnome 3 one
[10:36] <dr_willis> erupter:  theres some clipboard utilities for the cli
[10:37] <dr_willis> erupter:  or you can automate text editing via awk, sed, perl,, or other scripting languages
[10:37] <dr_willis> cub gnome-shell is a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:37] <dr_willis> unity is also a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:37] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[10:37] <Cub> okay it's all confusing for me
[10:37] <Cub> ah ok
[10:37] <dr_willis> nothing confuseing to it...
[10:37] <erupter> dr_willis, it's a one time shot hopefully, or very seldom used. automating is beyond point. fact is would something like the following  work
[10:37] <dr_willis> its just a desktop thats  uses gnome-3
[10:38] <dr_willis> !gnomeshell
[10:38] <dr_willis> hmm.. wonder what that factoid is
[10:38] <Cub> ..
[10:38] <dr_willis> !info gnome-shell
[10:38] <washuu_de> Cub: if you want the X11 feeling with 12.10. I'm all listening. The day I am told how not to have to cope with unity.. I switch to 12.10
[10:38] <dr_willis> there ya go ;)
[10:38] <erupter> dr_willis, head -20 myfile | tail -10 > myfile2 ? this should put the lines 11 through 20 from file1 into file2, but what if I want to put those lines starting from, say, line 33 of file2?
[10:39] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  huh? that barely made sence.. but you can easially install other desktops
[10:39] <decci> Hi Guys
[10:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  head and tail both have some extra optiuons i recall..  i belive  you can  select single lines... and a range
[10:39] <decci> I am unable to see compellent SAN box while installing Ubuntu 12.04.1 on SAN directly
[10:39] <Cub> okay i'll try installing that
[10:39] <dr_willis> head +10 -20
[10:40] <dr_willis> i sseem to recall... ;) been ages since i last had to do it
[10:40] <Cub> i finally upgraded my machine.... so unity works good, but i just like the otherr shell more :)
[10:40] <Cub> it should add a entry on the login screen correct/
[10:40] <washuu_de> i just dislike unity. the gnome desktop is fine for me.
[10:40] <dr_willis> cub it dies
[10:40] <dr_willis> doe
[10:40] <dr_willis> does
[10:40] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  you mean gnome-shell?
[10:40] <erupter> dr_willis, yes I can do that, do you know of a way to put the output somewhere in another file? if I do head&tail > file, it overwrites file.
[10:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  try the tee command perhaps?
[10:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  or check in #bash
[10:41] <erupter> tee... gonna check that
[10:41] <washuu_de> nope (I think) shell is not a GUI, ne ?
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi6.JPG
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi7.JPG
[10:41] <washuu_de> the GUI is what I want to stick with
[10:41] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  we just said how gnome-shell is the default shell for fedora and is a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi2.JPG
[10:42] <dr_willis> unity is also a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:42] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi3.JPG
[10:43] <washuu_de> I misunderstood you then. When you said "shell" I understood "CLI". My fault.
[10:43] <decci> Anyone who can help me
[10:43] <dr_willis> decci:  after that flood i am suprised youi haventg been kicked...
[10:43] <dr_willis> decci:  summarize the issue/problem.. would be a good start
[10:43] <decci> dr_willis: I need help. I am not useless here
[10:44] <decci> dr_willis: Sure
[10:44] <tyson__> how can i put my internet on my linux wen my internet requires an install?
[10:44] <tyson__> like installaion for software
[10:44] <dr_willis> tyson__:  what sort of netwwork are you on?
[10:44] <tyson__> Optus
[10:44] <tyson__> Usb stick
[10:45] <dr_willis> so you hacce a optus wifi usb dongle?
[10:45] <dr_willis> is that a 3g ? or connecting to a router?
[10:45] <tyson__> no
[10:45] <tyson__> not wifi
[10:45] <tyson__> 3g
[10:45] <decci> dr_willis: I have Ubuntu 12.04 ISo which I want to install directly to Compellent SAN. While I partition during the ubuntu installation, it doesnt show me SAN box. I am able to see it during CentOS installation and it work well.
[10:45] <tyson__> it needs to run an exe file
[10:45] <dr_willis> tsst it with the live cd first tyson__ .
[10:46] <tyson__> k
[10:46] <tyson__> then what?
[10:46] <dr_willis> tyson__:  most likely  it just needs a driver.. and it may allready be included on ubuntu
[10:46] <decci> dr_willis: http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi6.JPG
[10:46] <tyson__> ok ill try it
[10:46] <dr_willis> I know nothing about san boxs..
[10:47] <dr_willis> its possible the people in #ubuntu-server may know about them if no one else in here does
[10:47] <dr_willis> or check out askubuntu.com
[10:47] <decci> dr_willis: http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/syd-sehw-3iscsi0.JPG
[10:47] <decci> dr_willis: If you see CentOS works fine
[10:49] <nizor> tyson what u using to connect to the internet and what version of ubuntu u using?
[10:58] <nanonyme> Hi. After doing a graphical upgrade from Precise to Oneiric, the GUI crashed. The machine was brought to a somewhat working state using dpkg reconfigure but it appears it never finished the upgrade and there are still Precise packages in the system. Any tips on fixing the mess?
[10:59] <lnxslck> nanonyme, reinstall
[10:59] <nanonyme> Any alternative ways?
[11:00] <Fuzzles> Can someone help me when i change volume it changes my mic instead of my speakers
[11:00] <kostkon> nanonyme, tried giving:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:01] <nanonyme> kostkon, yeah, it says nothing to upgrade
[11:01] <iceroot> nanonyme: from 12.04 to 11.10?
[11:02] <kostkon> nanonyme, how to you know that some package haven't been updated?
[11:02] <iceroot> nanonyme: and apt-get upgrade is not upgrading the ubuntu version
[11:02] <nanonyme> iceroot, ah, never mind. I was just silly
[11:02] <nanonyme> iceroot, thanks for sanity check
[11:03] <kostkon> iceroot, updates the packages assuming the sources.list now points to the 12.10 repos
[11:03] <iceroot> kostkon: the sources.list was downgraded from 12.04 to 11.10...
[11:04] <nanonyme> kostkon, well, it's 11.10->12.04. iceroot nicely pointed out I remembered the names wrong
[11:04] <kostkon> nanonyme, yeah, i thought you meant 12.10
[11:04] <iceroot> nanonyme: ah ok
[11:04] <nanonyme> So it's just a matter of fixing a few broken packages
[11:04] <nanonyme> But nothing drastic
[11:04] <iceroot> nanonyme: what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:04] <kostkon> nanonyme, do you have broken packages?
[11:04] <iceroot> !paste | nanonyme
[11:05] <iceroot> nanonyme: also the output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[11:05] <nanonyme> kostkon, yeah, nvidia-current failed to generate the kernel module last time, that's why I began debugging in the first place
[11:05] <nanonyme> But yeah, should be able to just reinstall that now
[11:07] <kostkon> nanonyme, try first a apt-get dist-upgrade it might fix you nvidia package problems
[11:08] <noobe> How to restore deleted txt files ?
[11:10] <SolarisBoy> noobe: you don't without a backup or by chance that if you had it open by another process when you "deleted" it
[11:12] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:12] <funky1> anyone knows how long a fsck would take on a 2TB drive connected via usb?
[11:14] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:14] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:14] <ross`> is there a reason bind wouldn't work my default on ubuntu? i configured my zones in named.conf.local, and they have correct dns files linked. dig @127.0.0.1 domain.foo doesn't return anything tho
[11:15] <ross`> this same exact thing worked on debian
[11:15] <ross`> i'm using ubuntu server
[11:15] <ross`> bind9
[11:15] <ross`> s/my/by/
[11:17] <prakash__> Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:18] <ross`> can anyone help me please? ubuntu server 12.04.1 LTS
[11:18] <ross`> this should be working
[11:18] <ross`> i did /etc/init.d/bind9 restart as well as rndc reload
[11:20] <iceroot> ross`: use "sudo service servivename restart" instead of /etc/init.d/servicename restart
[11:20] <iceroot> !upstart | ross`
[11:22] <ross`> atleast i get a question section now..
[11:22] <phoenixsampras> Hello mellow!
[11:22] <ross`> ;adunium.com.                   IN      A
[11:22] <ross`> still not fully working tho
[11:22] <Sami345_> Hello. I've manually installed Java 7 from a package that I downloaded from Sun's website. Now, I would like to install a package that depends on a meta package "java6-runtime". Is there any way that I could define this package as installed manually?
[11:22] <ross`> is there anything else that i might need to do
[11:22] <ross`> i am very new to ubuntu server, been using debian forever
[11:23] <prakashbs> Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:23] <ross`> iceroot: do you know anything else that might be ubuntu server specific in comparison to debian
[11:24] <phoenixsampras> ross`: ubuntu server has more updated packages
[11:24] <jrib> Sami345_: presumably, you did not use a deb package to install java  7? you can use equivs.  But make sure you document this or it will bite you later when you wonder what's wrong with java.  Also it would seem more appropriate to use equivs on some java7 package, not java6
[11:25] <prakashbs> Help Plzz... Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:25] <Lantizia> Lo, I'd like an editor I can write C in (something that can deal with whitespace removal, removing tabs, syntax checking for C, etc)... NO I don't want vi/vim/emacs or related... and yes I'm on normal ubuntu so something that doesn't run in the terminal and doesn't require KDE libraries would be handy... any suggestions?
[11:25] <iceroot> ross`: upstart, local dns server by default instead of /etc/resolv.conf, no debugsymbols like on debian, no root-access
[11:26] <jrib> Sami345_: your other option is to also install openjdk.  Then openjdk will satisfy the requirement but you can still use your own java.  This is probably the better option.
[11:26] <ross`> iceroot: no root-access?
[11:26] <ross`> i've been using sudo -i and working as root
[11:26] <dr_willis> prakashbs: what fs is the filesystem?
[11:26] <jrib> prakashbs: what filesystem?
[11:26] <ross`> if files are owned by root can that cause problems
[11:26] <iceroot> ross`: no root account enabled by default
[11:26] <iceroot> !root | ross`
[11:27] <ross`> yea, i used sudo -i
[11:27] <iceroot> ross`: yes
[11:27] <prakashbs> I am using iomega storage box... I installed smbfs before mounting
[11:27] <ross`> well what else could be the problem
[11:27] <iceroot> ross`: and on debian there is a root account usable by default, not on ubuntu, ob ubuntu you use sudo
[11:27] <jrib> ross`: you shouldn't be using /etc/init.d directly.  Use the "service" command
[11:27] <ross`> i still have no idea why it isn't working, and i'm getting zero errors
[11:27] <dr_willis> Lantizia:  try geany
[11:27] <ross`> jrib: i did
[11:27] <phoenixsampras> ross`: i do use: sudo su, then i log like root ;) voila
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> i heard sudo -i is better
[11:28] <ross`> what else could be the problem here, my A records re not showing up
[11:28] <ross`> and i have zero idea why
[11:28] <jrib> phoenixsampras: sudo -i    will sanitize your environment
[11:28] <ross`> i did service bind9 restart
[11:28] <Lantizia> dr_willis, cool, I will thanks - do you use that?
[11:28] <dr_willis> dont use  sudo su    ;-)
[11:28] <ross`> service bind9 reload
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> jrib: where are you looking for the a records to resolve from internally or on the web?
[11:28] <ross`> and my a records are not resolving
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> jrib: was the change proper? serial incremented and all?
[11:28] <ross`> either from 8.8.8.8 or 127.0.0.1
[11:28] <jrib> SolarisBoy: wrong nick?
[11:29] <dr_willis> Lantizia:  depends on what im editing.  i use vim  mainly
[11:29] <ross`> is there any thing else ubuntu specific that could be the problem?
[11:29] <SolarisBoy> jrib: ooh my bad
[11:29] <ross`> why isn't this working
[11:29] <SolarisBoy> ross`: theres a few reasons,,, what access do you have to check further like logs etc?
[11:29] <ross`> does ubuntu use a non standard bind9 config file besides /etc/bind/named.conf
[11:30] <ross`> i have no idea why these zones are not being loaded
[11:30] <ross`> no typos
[11:30] <ross`> everything is correct
[11:30] <ross`> this should work
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> ross`: listen...
[11:30] <erupter> dr_willis, concatenation is done with ; -> head file1 ; tail file2 >> file3
[11:30] <FloodBot1> ross`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:30] <ross`> especially at localhost
[11:30] <dr_willis> practice  keep it in the channel please.
[11:30] <ross`> SolarisBoy: please tell me what the potential reasons are
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did you increment the serial? is bind listening does it resolve _anything_? whats your nssswitch and local resolver look like, how are you querying bind to know whats wrong?
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> tell me..
[11:31] <dr_willis> erupter:  >> appends.. yes. ;-)
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> ross`: was trying.. did you check the logs?
[11:31] <ross`> SolarisBoy: the serial shouldn't need incrementation on the first load :O
[11:31] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:31] <ross`> which log shuld i check
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> ross`: try syslog or log to see if there is a /var/log/named or similar
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> *look
[11:32] <erupter> ok generic networking question: I have my dhcp setup correctly, why is that I have to do sudo dhclient /iface/ everytime to correctly get the dns servers? otherwise I only have 127.0.0.1
[11:32] <ross`> i just incrememnted my serial and then did rndc reload
[11:32] <ross`> that shold have worked if serial was the problem, but it idd not
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ok whats the *response* from the server when you query it - and then whats in the logs when you query it?
[11:33] <Guest52459> Hello! I have a problem with my USB modules. I use Kubuntu, and when I start the machine, it works  fine for few minutes, but after starting the USB Webcam, and closing it, lsusb shows no devices  connected, and in dmesg all my USB devices are disconnected for no reason. The single USB module  which is loaded at this point is usb_storage. How can I solve this problem?
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> ross`: you can also provide as much detail about whats wrong other than its not working where you can to assist folks in helping =)
[11:33] <prakashbs> root@JHSP-Manjunath:~# mount
[11:33] <prakashbs> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[11:33] <prakashbs> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:33] <prakashbs> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:33] <prakashbs> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[11:33] <FloodBot1> prakashbs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> uh ph
[11:33] <prakashbs> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[11:33] <ross`> SolarisBoy: no i can't because i get no errors
[11:34] <ross`> SolarisBoy: it will not resolve with dig @127.0.0.1 domain.foo
[11:34] <ross`> this exact host files with /etc/bind/names.conf.local would work on debian
[11:34] <ross`> i don't know why it is not working here
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did you copy the debian configurations over or did you rebuild them manually?
[11:35] <ross`> i rebuilt them manually, and quadruple checked
[11:35] <fruitFly> please help http://superuser.com/questions/545478/dual-boot-linux-mint-14-partitioning
[11:35] <ross`> every suffix . is in place, as well as everything typed correctly
[11:35] <ross`> there are no syntax errors
[11:35] <prakashbs> Mount output... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600709/
[11:35] <ross`> bind would report a syntax error when started if it had one
[11:36] <jrib> prakashbs: which directory are you trying to access?
[11:36] <prakashbs> JHSP-FS
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> ross`: do you have present "named-checkzone" binary?
[11:36] <ross`> root@adunium:/var/host# nc -l 53
[11:36] <ross`> nc: Address already in use
[11:36] <ross`> that looks good too
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> ross`: if so can you run it on the intended zone and zone file
[11:36] <prakashbs> worksdaily from storage box
[11:36] <ross`> yes, i have that command, thank you
[11:36] <ross`> let me try that
[11:37] <Fuzzles> anyone know when steam is out of beta?
[11:38] <prakashbs> jrib: any clue.. you got.. If i access the same drive through Location.. then i am getting full access
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> ross`: also check if you are running something like apparmor and there is no conflict there
[11:38] <jrib> prakashbs: so now you should show your fstab line
[11:39] <ross`> apparmor?
[11:39] <ross`> this is a fresh install the only things i installed were apache2, bind9, nmap, whois
[11:39] <ross`> i can't think of anything that could possibly be be a problem
[11:40] <ross`> with a serversocket conflict
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> have you checked the process table or is that an assumption?
[11:40] <prakashbs> fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600720/
[11:40] <ross`> SolarisBoy: what should i check for?
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> it wouldn't be a socket conflict it would be a RBAC system running conflict
[11:40] <fruitFly> oh
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> you could try ps -ef |grep apparmor... and what was the output of the command you ran? checking the zones->files stuff?
[11:41] <fruitFly> a /boot partition.. what is its purposee?!?!?!
[11:41] <Diegosnat> hi
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: to hold files pertaining to booting
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: kernels, ramdisks, grub stuff
[11:41] <Diegosnat> hi guys!! Ive got a huge problem! I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:41] <ross`> SolarisBoy: adunium   5293  2185  0 06:41 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto apparmor
[11:41] <jrib> prakashbs: ls -ld /media/JHSP-FS
[11:41] <ross`> doesn't look like it is running
[11:42] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so why might one want a seperate partition for that? couldn't that just be put in / ?
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ok - so continue troubleshooting your installation
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sure
[11:42] <ross`> SolarisBoy: it's a fresh installation, all i did was install bind9
[11:42] <ross`> and apache2, and then tools
[11:42] <ross`> there is seriously nothing on this ubuntu server system
[11:42] <jrib> ross`: stop pressing enter so much please
[11:42] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I am about to install linux for dualboot, you think I should make a /boot, if so how large?
[11:43] <prakashbs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600730/
[11:43] <ross`> unless this ther is something i don't know about the ubuntu system..
[11:43] <jrib> prakashbs: ls -ld /media/JHSP-FS   (d not s)
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: i have a seperate boot as the other stuff is on lvm - it's nice to have it otherwise for varying reasons
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: people say a few hundred mb is fine but if you do plan to retain a lot of files there make it big enough
[11:44] <ross`> does named-checkconf return nothing if it is a good config?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: kernels are not very large
[11:44] <ross`> cause it returned nothing.. like i said no syntax errors
[11:44] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I'm taking a shit in a coffee shop in vitenam
[11:44] <IdleOne> !language | fruitFly
[11:44] <prakashbs> Sorry.. Now i put ls -ld http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600732/
[11:44] <Zentaur> hello
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did it say OK and say what serial was loaded? did it exit 0?
[11:45] <Zentaur> could anybody tell me how to change the password of a crypted hdd?
[11:45] <ross`> SolarisBoy: that isn't named-checkzone, still trying to figure out how to use that
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> ok...
[11:45] <Zentaur> i checked to crypt the hdd while installing ubuntu
[11:46] <jrib> prakashbs: you should be able to write to it.  What happens when you try « touch /media/JHSP-FS/testing »?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> if you use 'named-checkzone domain.tld /path/to/zonefile.tld' it should let you know ross`
[11:46] <Zentaur> but now i want to change the passwd. will it be as simple as changing it in the preferences?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ensure to plug in your specifics to replace those generic items..
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: the user password or the HD encryption passphrase?
[11:47] <prakashbs> You want me to try this from Command line? Problem is when i try to create nay file in mounted drive it creates with lock symbol
[11:47] <prakashbs> jrib: You want me to try this from Command line? Problem is when i try to create nay file in mounted drive it creates with lock symbol
[11:47] <jrib> prakashbs: yes
[11:48] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: you have a seperate boot as other stuff is on lvm? What you mean other stuff?
[11:48] <Zentaur> SolarisBoy, that's it
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: / && /home is on LVM in my case /boot is on a standard ext4 partition
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> excuse me.. standard linux partition i guess..
[11:49] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried that..  0 -rw-r--r-- 1 1015 users          0 Feb  2 17:15 testing
[11:49] <prakashbs> jrib: shall I post ls -ls ?
[11:50] <ross`> apparmor was the problem..
[11:50] <ross`> wow...
[11:50] <Diegonat> hi guys!! Ive got a huge problem! I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> heh..
[11:50] <ross`> why is that even there.. it is like purposefully breaking stuff
[11:50] <prakashbs> jrib
[11:50] <ross`> this is why i continued to use debian for so long, because of this type of stuff..
[11:50] <ross`> bleh, well thanks for the help
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> ross`: its not breaking anything in fact its protecting things.. but some times it prevents programs from working that don't have profiles
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> in all reality you can simply tell apparmor to ignore bind or add a proper profile for it (proper thing to do)
[11:51] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried mounting in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and 10.04 as well.. same issue in both the environments
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> stopping it or whatever you did is just a work around.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ^ - but glad it's working.
[11:52] <Zentaur> and f i need to extract the hdd and conect it to a external box... what passwd will it ask me for to be mounted?
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> the enc passphrase i suppose
[11:53] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I'm new to linux and partitioning and am not sure if I should create a /boot , in time I might download a zfs kernel, maybe not though. If I were to make a /boot, what would be a safe size for it? 2GB? If you would I would appreciate you checking out my short question at http://superuser.com/questions/545478/dual-boot-linux-mint-14-partitioning
[11:53] <Zentaur> but the enc passphrese is the user passwd snt it?
[11:53] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: no
[11:53] <Zentaur> last time i entered my user passwd and worked
[11:54] <jrib> prakashbs: that's ok. I understand your issue now.  But I don't know the best way for you to proceed and I must leave.  You should repeat your question, include your pastebin links, and explain that you're having trouble with the ownership of files you create on your cifs share.  I'll send you the docs link, but I don't know if they address your specific question (you can look through them while you wait for
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sure. one second.
[11:54] <jrib> someone else to answer)
[11:54] <jrib> !samba | prakashbs
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: theres a longer string i recall if we are taking about the same encryption process that is revealed one time on login and you should retain it somewhere
[11:54] <yeats> !mint | fruitFly
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: and then there is your password which is for the OS access
[11:55] <prakashbs> jrib: thanks..
[11:55] <SolarisBoy> oh didn't notice it was mint =)
[11:55] <prakashbs> ubottu: i am using iOmega storage box.. and i enabled windows file sharing in that
[11:55] <fruitFly> yeats: SolarisBoy I think I am going to download ubuntu instead, I am trying to understand the partitioning first though
[11:56] <Zentaur> mmm now i understand SolarisBoy
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: /boot does not require lots of space - as stated kernels are not large, i've seen people use 5G-10G and call that safe, mine is a few hundred MB as stated and i have multiple old kernels that need cleaning up
[11:56] <Zentaur> thanks a lot :)
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: sure
[11:57] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so maybe just 1GB? And how large should I make / relative to /home?
[11:57] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: and if I make a /home can I point different distros at the same /home?
[11:57] <fruitFly> yeats: ^^
[11:57] <Diegonat> guys I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:57] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried the links already which you shared...
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> (the OS and it's files, expect this to grow as you install things) /home (your stuff, expect this to grow as your system grows) - as such thats entirely up to you
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> again i've seen 15-20GB / and everything else for home - but those are systems that are lean and kept that way - but thats why i like LVM
[11:58] <Zentaur> one more thing
[11:58] <Zentaur> do i need the /boot partition?
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: if you have a seperate home sure that may not be the wisest thing - you'd probably have a ton of . files but sure
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: no
[11:59] <Zentaur> then i install the bootloader  directly in the hdd?
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: if you don't have a seperate /boot the installer will simply put it on the main disk partition and mark that disk bootable
[12:00] <easy> anyone have any info on the samsung+ uefi fiasco?
[12:00] <easy> i just been through hell and back
[12:00] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: not the smartest thing? a ton of .files? what would be a better way to accomplish that? And would I need a seperate / partition for a a different distro, or just a different /boot?
[12:00] <Zentaur> thanks!very nice
[12:00] <prakashbs> Hi Friends.. I am facing problems when i mount drive in Ubuntu using fstab. I am not getting read/write access. I am using iomega storage box. and enabled windows file sharing.. can some please help me..  mount and ls -ld output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: well thats my "analness" i guess - i wouldn't do it - but you can
[12:01] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: ok, so the only real reason to make a /home is for easier backup?
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes , backup, restore, expansion, replacement, etc
[12:02] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:02] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: installing linux will not use up a another primary partition, right? Do I just make the partitions and grub will automatically install to my windows partition?
[12:03] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:03] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: if you have windows installed you should be using the standard installed DVD and it will handle this for you =)
[12:03] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: it will ask you how you want to install it, how to resize windows and it will handle taking care of the boot loaders so you still ave the option to get back to windows if you choose
[12:03] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: standard installed dvd? I will use a linux cd?
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: for a beginner i would advise that for sure - otherwise you may lose data.. or an OS.. testing on your system there
[12:04] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: in linux there is a dual boot option and a something else option where you can set the partition sizes your self? Can you also do that in the dual boot option?
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes the one you download on the ubuntu homepage
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> does anyone know how to fix this - when i do a fullscreen vid/flash and move mouse to bottom, the screen moves up
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> any idea
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> what is it called ?
[12:04] <Oweoqi> does kubuntu come with many themes>?
[12:05] <yui-p1ug> i thought it was tomboy notes, seems like they refer as desktop objects and linking etc.
[12:05] <yui-p1ug> i am not able to find the keyword for what it is called.. it is damn frustrating
[12:05] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: in linux there is a dual boot option and a something else option where you can set the partition sizes your self? Can you also do that in the dual boot option?
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: im sorry have no idea what you mean =)
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: dualbooting is above linux it's grub if anything else
[12:06] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:06] <wagner> hello, ive a notebook that is UEFI and 32bit. How i can install ubuntu on it? Ive noticied that only ubuntu64 bit supports EFI
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: as stated if you use the standard ubuntu installer it will handle setting up dual boot (with partitioning and properly setting grub up) is the only relation of linux to dual booting
[12:07] <bekks> fruitFly: There is no "dual boot option in linux". You have to configure your system for dualbooting yourself.
[12:07] <skp1> how can i tell apt-get not to upgrade a certain package?
[12:07] <bekks> wagner: Then you have to disable UEFI and use BIOS instead.
[12:07] <prakashbs> babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/  can you help me here
[12:07] <wagner> ive only uefi
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> skp1: apt-get install <pkg> if the upgrade is available it will be upgraded
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: apt-get update first ofcourse
[12:08] <skp1> solarisboy: i dont want it to upgrade, i want to keep it from upgrading.
[12:08] <bekks> wagner: And you are 1000% sure your computer isnt 64bit capable?
[12:08] <wagner> yes
[12:08] <prakashbs> Please help... Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: i think there is command line call you can use or there is a way to stop apt from considering the package under /etc/apt.d
[12:08] <wagner> bekks: ive windows 8 32 bit secureboot with uefi
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: sorry not sure off top
[12:08] <bekks> wagner: That doesnt mean that your computer isnt capable of 64bit.
[12:08] <wagner> the cpu is 32bit
[12:08] <skp1> anyone else know?
[12:09] <bekks> wagner: Which CPU very exactly is it?
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> it could have PAE ext..
[12:09] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: bekks I'm not necessarily going to use mint but when I put in the mint .iso it give the options: dual boot alongside windows, fresh install AND "something else" (custom partitioning). Would the dual boot option install grub to mbr allow me to also set up my partitions? And that's automatically done in the ubuntu .iso without a formal "dual boot option"?
[12:09] <bekks> fruitFly: No one in here has a clue about the mint installer.
[12:09] <wagner> bekks: intel atom z2760
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: ubuntu gives you this similar option though worded differently
[12:09] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: can you help me with this issue..? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/   mounted drive is not getting full access
[12:10] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: it allows you to setup partitions in that - you can resize the ubuntu partition and you'll be able to control the size of both - it will then proceed to install the whole system to the free space it makes - it won't do a complicated partitioning scheme here
[12:10] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy:  bekks os files stored in / also includes program files when downloading new software?
[12:10] <bekks> prakashbs: State your problem please. Your paste does not contain a problem.
[12:11] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes - some things generally considering user preferences are placed under /home/<user> though
[12:11] <bekks> fruitFly: In Ubuntu, the files you are downloading are stored in /home/youruser/Downloads
[12:11] <skp1> SolarisBoy: apparently it can be done through synaptic, thanks anyway
[12:11] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:11] <prakashbs> bekks: Monuted drive in Ubuntu not getting full access.. I mounted dshared drive from iomega storage box.. The out put of mount is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:12] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so when dual boot partitioning with ubuntu you cannot leave unallocated space?
[12:12] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:12] <bekks> prakashbs: You already provided that paste. You paste does not contain any problems. Whats the detailed problem you are experiencing?
[12:12] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: afaik no
[12:12] <bekks> fruitFly: Of course you can.
[12:12] <SolarisBoy> not in the standard installer..
[12:12] <bekks> SolarisBoy: Thats correct, yes.
[12:12] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: afaik?
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> ahh i knew i wasn't bugging =)
[12:13] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:13] <jennyh> Hi. Im having trouble using gb.archive.ubuntu.com.  is it me or them?
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> as far as i know = afaik. fruitFly
[12:13] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:13] <fruitFly> aaah SolarisBoy  :D
[12:13] <prakashbs> bekks: When i try to create any folder or file in mounted drive then it creates with locksymbol... I am not able to save attachments straight from mail client like thudnerbird..
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> anyway the point is YEs you can do this unallocated space thing - but not from the normal installer disk - the live one - you may need the alternate installer for that
[12:14] <SolarisBoy> OR to have that partition already cut up - but i suggest you use the custom installer for your experience level fruitFly
[12:14] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so what you think 8GB swap, 46GB / and 154GB /home and 1GB /boot?
[12:14] <prakashbs> bekks: Same drive I access through smb://ipaddress/sharedfolder then i get full access for the same user. Problem happens only with mounted drive..
[12:14] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sounds good - question, is that a laptop? how much memory do you have?
[12:15] <fruitFly> I have 4GB but I might stick another 4Gb in
[12:15] <fruitFly> yes laptop SolarisBoy
[12:15] <SolarisBoy> ok gotcha - and you plan to hibernate i suppose? otherwise 8GB of swap is a waste
[12:15] <fruitFly> I hibernate with my 4GB :) SolarisBoy
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> thats cool - i guess you need it if you hibernate so nevermind
[12:16] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SLEEP VS HIBERNATE?
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> never cared
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> =)
[12:16] <fruitFly> lol
[12:16] <erupter> anyone knows why uninstalling dnsmasq-base would result in networking death? network manager doesn't show, and all interfaces don't configure anymore
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> as long as it looks of it's fine with me =)
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> *off
[12:16] <prakashbs> bekks: you understand the issue..Please ignore  for my poor explanation ..
[12:17] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i believe network-manager uses dnsmasq for local caching in some setups (possibly default)
[12:17] <erupter> SolarisBoy, suppose so, i tried removing it and now it's broken
[12:17] <SolarisBoy> lol put it back!
[12:18] <SolarisBoy> j/p
[12:18] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:18] <erupter> I'm trying manually copying the deb from another pc, and installing by end. do you know of a way of removing dnsmasq from ubuntu?
[12:18] <SolarisBoy> erupter: dpkg -l "dnsmasq*" remove whats returned if you really wanted to
[12:19] <SolarisBoy> erupter: you may want to put the interfaces as manual up in /etc/network/interfaces so network-manager doesn't control them and then manually program them to prevent the network death in the mean time
[12:19] <bekks> prakashbs: No, I dont not understand the issue without an error message. :)
[12:21] <erupter> SolarisBoy, for the networks right now I'm at home and I only have a wireless, so... no joy in manual config :(
[12:21] <fruitFly> SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:21] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: ^^
[12:21] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i getcha
[12:21] <erupter> SolarisBoy, for the dpkg stuff... wait I try to copy the result from the other pc
[12:21] <prakashbs> bekks: There is no error.. When i try to create nay folder or file in shared drive.. it gets created .. but with lock symbol on it..  that means it's not allowing to have read/write access. Same drive if i access throgh smb://serverIP/shared folder.. then i am getting full access.. problem is with mounted drive..
[12:21] <bekks> prakashbs: So your problem is a weired icon, basically?
[12:22] <SolarisBoy> erupter: so is that when network-manager does run no interfaces are listed since you purged dnsmasq? if not try to set manually a resolver in the nm-applet and bounce the service
[12:22] <bekks> prakashbs: Did you even try to access your drive in read/write?
[12:22] <prakashbs> yes.. really.. iomega guys stopped responding now..
[12:22] <babilen> prakashbs: You could create the "testing" file just fine
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy, http://pastebin.com/crxvx52h
[12:23] <prakashbs> babilen.. i did that using command line..
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy, service networking start/restart freezes
[12:23] <bekks> prakashbs: So you dont have a problem when being able to create a testing file just fine.
[12:23] <prakashbs> bekks: i didnt get u... accessdrive in read/write means?
[12:23] <SolarisBoy> are you creating the file as root and then trying to access it via file manager (As your user most likely?) prakashbs ?
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy,  it's not working at all and I don't have the network manager icon anymore
[12:23] <babilen> prakashbs: So what? I see no error whatsoever.
[12:24] <bekks> prakashbs: "did you try to create a testing file?" "yes. it works fine." "ok, you have no problem then." :)
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> i think hes creating the file as root
[12:24] <bekks> SolarisBoy: The permissions are against you ;)
[12:24] <prakashbs> No... there is 10 users... for everyone same problem... i craeted multiple folders.. problem happens if i use mounted drive
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> and opening (or trying) to in a file manager which is owned by him (user) most likely - he said he sees a lock on the files once created
[12:24] <babilen> prakashbs: Which problem?
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> bekks: those darn perms !! =)
[12:24] <prakashbs> same drive if i access through smb://serverip/sharedfilder with same user.. then it works fine
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i see
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: that blows sorry to hear that =(
[12:25] <bekks> babilen: The closed lock symbol on the icon of the drive on the desktop-
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: technically you can setup network from the CLI without NM it's just more complicated
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> per say
[12:25] <erupter> SolarisBoy, yeah... is there a way I can do something like sudo apt-get install /path/to/deb? it's refusing at the moment
[12:25] <yui-p1ug> how do you disable horizontal dash that lists open apps in ubuntu
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: yes use dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb (with sudo ofcourse)
[12:25] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:26] <Uncle_Sam> would i get the latest changes that linus commited (the ones regarding samsung firmware uefi problem) if i get 13 alpha? or is that a bad idea?
[12:26] <bekks> prakashbs: WHICH problem happens... ignore that icon and state the PROBLEM please.
[12:26] <Uncle_Sam> i have a lot of work to do today that i can't do on windows 8 :p
[12:26] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: you run the installer and you tell it how big you want windows resized to - it takes care of the rest - what i think your implying is a manual setup which would be very different
[12:27] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Ok thanks :)... 1 more thing... Why ubuntu over mint?
[12:27] <prakashbs> bekks: i am not getting full access.. please see the output here ...
[12:27] <prakashbs> manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ touch /media/JHSP-FS/testing2
[12:27] <prakashbs> touch: cannot touch `/media/JHSP-FS/testing2': Permission denied
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: in the manual case yes you setup all the partitions, resize windows manually using gparted or whatever, create parts/FS on new unallocated space, create a boot partition for ubuntu, make a chain loader windows entry in grub, and make an entry to point to the new partition with the new ubuntu root is the manual way
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: but the cd does all that for you
[12:28] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I don't need to resize windows as I left 232 GB of unallocated space
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: meaning its mounted as root most likely or the folder on top is owned by root
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: seems normal
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> if the filesystem complies mount it with the uid,gid options
[12:29] <prakashbs> please help me solving this.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> if not permission the folders properly -
[12:29] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: can you see the output and usggest me where exactly i did a mistake?
[12:29] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> i dont think you did a mistake
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> you just need to fix your permissions is all..
[12:30] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Is the make a chain loader windows entry complicated? I already have free space. Should I make my swap at the end of the hd to be more easily accessed or is that negligible?
[12:30] <bekks> prakashbs: sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sorry im going to hop in the shower - i suggest the CD thats a process (manual) you'll save time/head hair by using the CD
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> if you want to play around have a backup =)
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> +1 bekks, brb
[12:31] <prakashbs> bekks: do i need to unmount before doing this?
[12:31] <bekks> prakashbs: No.
[12:31] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Swap at the end of the hd for more easily accessible?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:31] <bekks> fruitFly: Nonsense.
[12:31] <fruitFly> Why UBUNTU OVER MINT!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!! SolarisBoy
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> word..
[12:31] <erupter> SolarisBoy, is there a way I can use either dpkg or apt-get to download the debs easily to move to the other pc?
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> swap anywhere - doesn't matter
[12:31] <bekks> fruitFly: And do use ONE interpunctuation sign only.
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> if it did the difference is so minute no one would care
[12:32] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Why ubuntu over mint?
[12:32] <fruitFly> which is the pinnacle lol
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> never used mint -
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> in this channel it's relevant probably - name being #ubuntu and all =)
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> *relevance
[12:32] <prakashbs> bekks: i am not able to do that.. its saying permission denied
[12:32] <bekks> fruitFly: Please keep it up to support, not to offtopic discussions.
[12:33] <Oweoqi> do I need to port forward for hamachi?
[12:33] <fruitFly> bekks: u party pooper.. I'm out
[12:33] <fruitFly> bekks: SolarisBoy Thanks for all the help! I reaaaly appreciate it :D
[12:33] <bekks> fruitFly: Watch your language, in addition, thanks.
[12:33] <bekks> prakashbs: Then run the command I gave you.
[12:33] <SolarisBoy> np dude have a good one.
[12:33] <fruitFly> You guys have an AMAZING ONE :D:D:D:D:D:D
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> \Nickserv
[12:34] <kingbeast> Uncle_Sam, / not\
[12:34] <prakashbs> bekks: when runnig that command also i am getting this error..
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> lollollollollollollolloollloolllooollllololllllolllllolllolllollloll
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> ok
[12:35] <erupter> is there a way I can use either dpkg or apt-get to download the debs easily to move to the other pc?
[12:35] <bekks> prakashbs: So which command do you run?
[12:35] <Uncle_Sam> i am using metroirc .. gimme a break :p
[12:35] <SolarisBoy> erupter: you can use apt-get and the download otpion and you can copy the files over to the computer and use dpkg -i file.deb on the other end like i initially said =)
[12:36] <erupter> dpkg I already did, the download part I was missing. thanks SolarisBoy
[12:36] <Uncle_Sam> been a week can't get stable ubuntu on samsung! half-bricked twice!
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> erupter: np =)
[12:36] <kingbeast> erupter, even if you did, sometimes it would still need to retrieve dependencies
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> true story
[12:36] <prakashbs> bekks: Now i unmounted the drive... then i ran the command chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS..
[12:36] <prakashbs> bekks: then i monuted again .. still same problem
[12:37] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: that's hardware/firmware-related - you'll have to take that up with Samsung/your laptop dealer
[12:37]  * SolarisBoy wonders if apt download would fetch the deps also...
[12:37] <prakashbs> bekks: i logged in as a root when i run that command... do i need to login as a user or root?
[12:37] <Uncle_Sam> well i
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: !root
[12:37] <Uncle_Sam> kernel/firmware doesn't mean hardware i thought
[12:37] <Xtreme> hey guys
[12:37] <captine> Uncle_Sam,  what machine?  So i know not to get it :)
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: use regular users when logging in
[12:38] <Xtreme> anyone successfully installed speech recognition so far?
[12:38] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: it's specific to Samsung
[12:38] <Uncle_Sam> it's actually a solid machine
[12:38] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: i logged in from ssh.. and did it..
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: doesn't matter log in as normal users
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: and set PermitRootLogin no in sshd_config when you get a sec...
[12:39] <ikonia> that is already set by default on ubuntu
[12:39] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[12:39] <ikonia> so either this is not an ubuntu install or someone has enabled it
[12:39] <Uncle_Sam> samsung NP350U3C-A07UK
[12:39] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: if i login as a user then if i use sudo .. then it's not allowing me to run command
[12:39] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/01/linux_samsung_laptop_fix_advice/ - that might help to know (developing story, so solid info may not be available)
[12:39] <ikonia> prakashbs: is this an ubuntu machine ?
[12:39] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: so  i logged in directly using root..
[12:40] <prakashbs> ikonia: yes.. ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> that means you weren't setup to use sudo with that command, and it further sounds that that machine is configured to prevent access to certain things if commands are configured in sudoers..
[12:40] <ikonia> prakashbs: the root account is locked / disabled
[12:40] <Uncle_Sam> yeats: thanks man i know this is an in progress thing
[12:40] <bekks> prakashbs: Which command did you run? Answer the question please.
[12:40] <ikonia> prakashbs: also the ssh process won't allow direct login as root even if you enable it unless you set the parameter SolarisBoy has said
[12:40] <varikonniemi> what does the swappiness value set?
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: either way - as you see - using root is not a good idea, thats why your having all this problem with the file in the first place =(
[12:41] <prakashbs> bekks: i used ssh root@192.168.1.121, then i ran command chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:41] <ikonia> prakashbs: that should not work
[12:41] <ikonia> prakashbs: have you enabled root login in sshd ? have you enabled the root account ?
[12:41] <bekks> varikonniemi: It sets the "will to swap".
[12:41] <SolarisBoy> varikonniemi: how much your system relies on swap
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> mines is unwilling =)
[12:42] <varikonniemi> yeah but is there some metric?
[12:42] <bekks> SolarisBoy: :D Mine neither :)
[12:42] <varikonniemi> 0-100 is range, but what does it affect
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> good question - not sure how those numbers work - 10 is low 0 is not and 100 is a lot i guess
[12:42] <kingbeast> Uncle_Sam, that's one of the samsung ultrabooks?
[12:42] <bekks> varikonniemi: 0 == dont even think of swapping, 100 == swap whenever you just have a chance to.
[12:42] <varikonniemi> yes, and default is 60
[12:42] <prakashbs> if i use sudo chmod g+w media/JHSP-FS, then it's asking password.. but it's not taking root password
[12:42] <bekks> varikonniemi: Which is a pretty good default.
[12:43] <varikonniemi> if it is as you say, defauklt should be like 10
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: that is not the root password
[12:43] <Ben64> !root | prakashbs
[12:43] <varikonniemi> because swap== last resort
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> varikonniemi: on certain systems it can be 10..
[12:43] <bekks> varikonniemi: Nope :)
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: it wants your user password
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: is this your desktop ?
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> now if you have a bomber.. you probably want to leave that just as it is...
[12:43] <bekks> varikonniemi: swap == pretty good resort when running into the out of memory killer otherwise.
[12:43] <prakashbs> yes
[12:43] <prakashbs> if i put sudo bash.. then it's asks password.. that's root password.. rite? correct me if i am workng
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> if your running SSD on a desktop thats not mobile, and you have tons of memory that you know you never use up in a million years then sure set it to 10
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, 1.) why are you logging in as root ?
[12:44] <nearst> hi all
[12:44] <varikonniemi> bekks, yes, but imo swapping when you have gigs of ram is idiotic. And this is normal ubuntu behavior
[12:44] <ikonia> prakashbs: if you are logging in as root you should understand te basics of your system, you do not. Do not login as root
[12:44] <Ben64> prakashbs: sudo is your password, root doesn't (shouldn't) have a password
[12:44] <kingbeast> hi nearst
[12:44] <bekks> varikonniemi: swap is only used when there is no RAM available anymore.
[12:44] <varikonniemi> not true
[12:44] <SolarisBoy> bekks: actually swap is used normally
[12:45] <kingbeast> bekks, who told you that?
[12:45] <prakashbs> ikonia: manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:45] <prakashbs> [sudo] password for manjunath:
[12:45] <bekks> kingbeast: My experience in 15y.
[12:45] <prakashbs> what password i should put here
[12:45] <kingbeast> you're wrong
[12:45] <ikonia> prakashbs: please stop for a moment
[12:45] <Xtreme> anyone?
[12:45] <ikonia> prakashbs: please type the command "id" and show me the output
[12:45] <nearst> kingbeast, ty
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: anyone what ?
[12:45] <Xtreme> voice recognition
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: saying anyone is pointless, it add no value
[12:45] <bekks> kingbeast: Then provide some more information, like links, on that.
[12:45] <Xtreme> ikonia, read above
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: you're just saying random words, try using a sentence
[12:46] <Xtreme> i already asked
[12:46] <prakashbs> manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ id
[12:46] <prakashbs> uid=1002(manjunath) gid=1003(manjunath) groups=1003(manjunath),29(audio)
[12:46] <Xtreme> ikonia, <Xtreme> anyone successfully installed speech recognition so far?
[12:46] <ikonia> Xtreme: right, so saying "anyone" gives no information"
[12:46] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, now, what is the sudo command you want to run ?
[12:46] <Ben64> Xtreme: chill out, not everyone remembers what you said 8 minutes ago
[12:46] <varikonniemi> so vm.swappiness = 0 should give me the swap behaviour i expect ?
[12:46] <prakashbs> sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:47] <kingbeast> bekks, pm sent
[12:47] <Xtreme> Ben64, well what to do? some chatrooms feels repeating question offending..
[12:47] <Xtreme> they are like "we read when you asked first time, no need to repeat"
[12:47] <Ben64> Xtreme: "anyone" is worse. repeat your question every 10 or 15 mins or so
[12:47] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, run theat command, when it asks for a password use the password for the user manjunath
[12:47] <Xtreme> so its really confusing what a person should do at times..
[12:47] <TomyLobo> Xtreme what you posed was a metaquestion
[12:47] <nearst> Xtreme, http://linuxsagas.digitaleagle.net/2012/02/25/voice-recognition-in-ubuntu/
[12:48] <TomyLobo> he wants to know you actual question
[12:48] <ikonia> Xtreme: repeating the question is the same as saying "anyone" just with less value
[12:48] <SolarisBoy> bekks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157793/why-is-swap-being-used-even-though-i-have-plenty-of-free-ram
[12:48] <TomyLobo> your*
[12:48] <prakashbs> ikonia: manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:48] <prakashbs> [sudo] password for manjunath:
[12:48] <prakashbs> manjunath is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: there you go then
[12:48] <Xtreme> nearst, already tried, dint work.. hence the question
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: that is the problem, your user is not in the sudo group
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: so can't use sudo
[12:49] <SolarisBoy> i think it has to do with the complexity of "free memory" on systems (cached buffered etc) but the system does use swap on normal operations (unless you tell to absolutely not)
[12:49] <nearst> Xtreme, owh. ok
[12:49] <prakashbs> ikonia: basically, i want to give full access to user: manjunath for mounted drive
[12:49] <prakashbs> can you help me how to get it done?
[12:49] <ikonia> prakashbs: yes, but read what I said, the user you are askig for does not have sudo acceess
[12:50] <ikonia> prakashbs: when you installed ubunut, it creates a user for you, which user did it create
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: can you pastie the output of 'sudo -l' as manjunath on that box?
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> *pastebin
[12:50] <prakashbs> ikonia: that is jhsp
[12:50] <kingbeast> swap is the Linux paging partition, that is it
[12:51] <TomyLobo> [13:48:35] <Xtreme> nearst, already tried, dint work.. hence the question <-- this should be part of your question, then
[12:51] <TomyLobo> Xtreme http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> right and the reason it's used even when ram is not all used up is because of something to dow ith ^
[12:51] <ikonia> prakashbs: use that user eithera a.) add your user to the sudo group 2.) give the permission on  the file system you want
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> and it can be a paging file as well
[12:52] <nearst> ya. swap work like page file. ubuntu already use zram0 ;0
[12:52] <TomyLobo> page file is also called swap file *cough*
[12:52] <SunilJoshi> Hi, I am using Ubuntu12.10 and by using compiz , i mistakenly reset the ubuntu desktop and now no top bar and side bar are visible.. anyway to get it back?
[12:52] <SolarisBoy> this is getting redundant
[12:52] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  if you reset all settings.. it should go back to defaults..
[12:53] <kingbeast> bekks, was link enough?
[12:53] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: this is what i have done..i have clicked on restore to defaults.. and after that side bar and top bar is gone
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> eg setting swappiness 0 is cool for my desktop at home but i would never try it on a prod server or anything lol
[12:54] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  you mean in the ccsm tool you used restore to defaults?
[12:54] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: yes exactly
[12:54] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  i bet it turned off the Unity plugin
[12:54] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: yes i have seen that it is unchecked
[12:55] <dr_willis> so check it.. ;)
[12:55] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: ok sure, will try.. thanks !!
[12:56] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600906/
[12:57] <prakashbs> i did ... I given g+w access to user.. and i ran mount -a command using root.. still i am facing same issue.. permission denied
[12:58] <prakashbs> bekks: i did sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS, still same problem
[12:58] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  what filesystem is that partion using?
[12:59] <bekks> prakashbs: It has to be mounted before running that command.
[12:59] <prakashbs> it's from iomega storage box.. I enabled windows file sharing in that
[12:59] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  so its some sort of network share you are telling us?>
[12:59] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: thanks!! Now i can see them again :)
[12:59] <dr_willis> I dont think you just chown/chmod network shares that way
[12:59] <prakashbs> bekks: if i run that command after mounted,.. its giving  chmod: changing permissions of `/media/JHSP-FS': Permission denied
[13:00] <prakashbs> yes.. dr_willis
[13:00] <nearst> raring is fun :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod samba shares
[13:00] <dr_willis> you must use the proper mount options for them i imagine
[13:00] <prakashbs> dr_willis: I want to mount that shared folder in all ubuntu machines.. i am able to mount it.. but i am not getting full access..
[13:01] <dr_willis> same as if they were on a windows machine
[13:01] <prakashbs> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[13:01] <prakashbs> please refer that.. i given out put of mount and ls -ld
[13:02] <dr_willis> whats the fstab line for that share?
[13:02] <sakkemo> Hi, would this be sensible for HDD+SSD setup? SSD: / and /home, HDD: swap (for hibernate), most /home subfolders (Downloads, Videos etc.), which would be mounted in /home.
[13:02] <prakashbs> dr_willis: //192.168.1.150/worksdaily /media/JHSP-FS smbfs credentials=/home/manjunath/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[13:03] <tinti_> sakkemo: put swap in SSD too
[13:03] <dr_willis> !samba
[13:03] <dr_willis> I think you need differnt options in your fstab
[13:03] <nearst> afaik ssd no need to use swap options
[13:03] <tinti_> if butterfs were ready you could just create an array and use SSD as a cache for HDD
[13:03] <tinti_> :)
[13:03] <prakashbs> dr_willis: what options?
[13:04] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  no idea.. i say check that url the bot gave...
[13:04] <prakashbs>  please help me
[13:04] <prakashbs> dr_willis: i tried that weeks back
[13:04] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  id have to google them up.. or check the using-samba book thats in the  repos
[13:04] <sakkemo> tinti_: would you recommend that even if I get 8 GB of RAM and would probably need swap only for the hibernate?
[13:04] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[13:04] <dr_willis> its also possible the server needs to have some settings changed.
[13:04] <SunilJoshi> one more thing, compiz is taking so much CPU... anyway i can reduce it...
[13:04] <tinti_> because when you bootup if you get the image for swap it would be faster :)
[13:05] <tinti_> sakkemo: makes sense at least no?
[13:05] <Neonlajt> ubuntu 12.10 /w gnome-shell 3.6.2, user-themes plugin won't install. Unsure where to begin troubleshooting, any pointers :)?
[13:05] <dr_willis> your share is showing several differnt user ids (uids) for the files. if it shows the # theres not a matching user on the system,
[13:05] <prakashbs> dr_willis: just forgot to mention.. if i use the same shared folder.. using smb://192.168.1.150/worksdaily... then i get full access.. problem happening only when i access it through mounted drive
[13:06] <sakkemo> tinti_: thanks, I might do that as I probably won't run out of space in near future. Maybe I could even run a boot-up time comparison, if I can be bothered :P
[13:06] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  access it that way then look at the mount  output and see what options it used
[13:06] <tinti_> it is also a good idea to place some things in the ssd
[13:07] <dr_willis> i would think you need a uid= option for that user
[13:07] <tinti_> create /home/user and give permissions for you there. When using heavy build systems such as android build it is a good idea :)
[13:08] <prakashbs> dr_willis: if i use in that way.. it won' show up in mount
[13:08] <prakashbs> bekks: have u looked at output
[13:09] <prakashbs> ikonia: any help
[13:09] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  huh? ive definatly seen gvfs mounted things show up in the output of mount.
[13:10] <dr_willis> i would guess its passing a uid/gid option that matches that of your user.
[13:11] <prakashbs> dr_willis: can you help me solving this.. i am basic user to ubuntu
[13:11] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  I belive you need to be using a uid= and gid= options
[13:11] <dr_willis> /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  smbfs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[13:12] <dr_willis> /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  smbfs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[13:12] <dr_willis> from that wiki page...   If you need special permission (like chmod etc.), you'll need to add a uid (short for 'user id') or gid (for 'group id') parameter to the share's mount options.
[13:12] <prakashbs> uid=1000 or do i need to change?
[13:12] <killer> i installed bootloader on a usb ...and deleted it from my inbiult hard disk ...and when i try to load  the ubuntu installation on my internal hd...it says:"error: you should first load kernel"
[13:12] <dr_willis> depends on what uid you want to use...
[13:12] <dchevak> do any of you have problems updating
[13:13] <dr_willis> your listing showewd several differnt uid's being used.. that means samba is thinking the files are owned by differnt users
[13:13] <prakashbs> uid means user ID code?
[13:13] <Zentaur> hello
[13:13] <dr_willis> each user has a UID and GID
[13:14] <dr_willis> echi $UID and see yours
[13:14] <dr_willis> echo\
[13:14] <Zentaur> i'm partitioning my hdd and i don't know what kind of table must i use
[13:14] <Zentaur> msds, bsd, amiga...
[13:14] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  the dos or gpt one.. depending on what your system supports
[13:15] <Zentaur> thanks dr_willis
[13:15] <dchevak> I am running 12.04 server and always installs good but when I update and something happens to my connection and doesnt finish it messes something up
[13:16] <dchevak> I use apt-get then I tried aptitued
[13:16] <linux_is_my_hero> help, flash is broken in chrome on ubuntu 12.04.1
[13:16] <xnixan> Hi, my partition table is corrupted, i tried testdisk, but only recognize Win7 partition, but not rest of my ext4 Linux partitions :( is there anyone knows easy way to rescan hd and regenerate the right partition table
[13:19] <dchevak> http://askubuntu.com/questions/48717/how-to-manually-fix-a-partition-table
[13:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, I'm running Kubuntu 12.10. How would I go about upgrading to the latest official release of the AMD display driver without going outside apt (as I want to retain the ability to automatically update it later on)? I've been out of the Linux loop since the Debian Etch-era, and I don't think PPAs - which I'm not entirely sure what are, compared to regular repos - existed then. I googled around and found the PPA for X-Swat/X-
[13:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Updates/whatever it's called, but I don't know how to proceed beyond having added it. Can't see any relevant packages in the package manager.
[13:22] <dr_willis> !ppa
[13:23] <dr_willis> if you want to use apt - you might have to use ppas
[13:23] <dr_willis> but the normal drivers in the repos work for most people.
[13:23] <Dark_Apostrophe> Alright - but which ones, and how?
[13:23] <nimo> im trying to create an upstart conf file to execute a script at every shutdown......  can i make it simple?
[13:23] <dr_willis> the addational drivers tool some times has newer drivers after they get tested
[13:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, they do work - but I get the impression they're a bit laggy. Might be because it's a 7000-series card, requiring newer drivers?
[13:24] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  more likely the drivers just suck. because its ATI/AMD we are talking about. ;)
[13:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, never really used AMD graphics cards on Linux before.
[13:24] <dr_willis> x-swat  updates a lot of things.. and may not be a good idea.. unless you just want to try them
[13:25] <Dark_Apostrophe> Any other options?
[13:26] <dr_willis> use the addational drivers tool and see what drivers they are suggesting.. thats the safest thing to use.
[13:27] <dr_willis> some times they get updated to newer drivers./
[13:27] <nearst> raring is rock. solid and fast
[13:28] <dr_willis> the open sourced drivers have gotten decent for many cards i hear.
[13:28] <jammmn> Is there a command line tool for playing flac?
[13:28] <jammmn> Like mpg123 or mpg321?
[13:28] <dr_willis> theres numerous command line  audio players..   check the package manager.. i cant rember  their names
[13:28] <dr_willis> moc was one i recall?
[13:30] <jammmn> dr_will: I am now using mplayer.
[13:31] <dr_willis> !find moc
[13:31] <dr_willis> !find mocd
[13:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: There are two equally named AMD drivers in the additional drivers tool - with no description of the differences between them.
[13:32] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  flip a coin then.. ;) or use whatever one is reccomended
[13:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> That's what I did originally :P
[13:33] <dr_willis> i have exactly 1 ati system in the house.. and its using the open sourced drivers
[13:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, totally unrelated question: Is it possible to completely disable the HDMI audio output in ALSA/Gstreamer/Phonon? Every time I reboot, the OS sets that as the master output channel while I use analog out
[13:33] <dr_willis> i know better then to use ati on linux. ;)
[13:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: How's the performance? Specifically video playback?
[13:33] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[13:34] <Dark_Apostrophe> Thanks :)
[13:34] <dr_willis> pavucontrol lets you piick what to use as the output
[13:34] <Dark_Apostrophe> Downloading it now
[13:34] <dr_willis> that box plays the kids cartoons fine.. I think it even does that ubuntu netflix thing fine..
[13:34] <Zentaur> hi
[13:34] <dr_willis> but its not playing HD stuff
[13:34] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh... HD is kind of what I'm aiming for,.
[13:35] <Zentaur> i've got 8 gb of ram. how much swap do i need?
[13:35] <Zentaur> must i create it at the beggining of the hdd?
[13:35] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  desktop? laptop? you plan on using hibernate/suspend?
[13:35] <Dark_Apostrophe> Zentaur: I've got 14GB of RAM, using no swap - have yet to find any adverse consequences. But I think the common recommendation is at least 1GB...
[13:35] <dr_willis> swap can be anywhere
[13:35] <Dark_Apostrophe> Mine is a desktop, mind you.
[13:35] <Zentaur> desktop and i plan to hibernate/suspend
[13:36] <dr_willis> then you want ram+ a litle bit more
[13:37] <koala_> hi there
[13:37] <Zentaur> really??? i've always had 1 gb while i had 4gb
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Zentaur, then use at least 8G , maybe 9
[13:37] <dchevak> a good place to look for help with ati and linux is bitcoin
[13:37] <dchevak> I run ati SDK
[13:37] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  you said you wanted hibernate/suspend = there for you need ram+a little
[13:37] <koala_> i'm a noob and i would like to join a channel that i found, how would i do that?
[13:37] <dchevak> for password crunching
[13:37] <Dark_Apostrophe> pavucontrol seemed to do exactly what I wanted - thanks again, dr_willis :)
[13:37] <Zentaur> ok
[13:37] <koala_> irc.indymedia.org:6697
[13:37] <dr_willis>   /join #channelname
[13:38] <Zentaur> thanks
[13:38] <dr_willis> thats a server.. not a channel
[13:38] <Dark_Apostrophe> dchevak: Oh, people still haven't gone over to dedicated hardware?
[13:38] <koala_> thx a lot
[13:38] <Zentaur> what if it was a laptop with 2 gb?
[13:38] <Dark_Apostrophe> I thought graphics cards would've been displaced by ASICs by now
[13:38] <Zentaur> 2gb and a little more?
[13:38] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  hibernate/suspend = there for you need ram+a little
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Zentaur, yes
[13:38] <Zentaur> ok
[13:38] <dr_willis> or moar :) if  you want
[13:39] <Dark_Apostrophe> or FPGAs.
[13:40] <sobhan2> any one can give a link about what ubuntu did for gnome 3.7 work with upstart (since it look likes it isn't going to move to systemd :) ) ?
[13:40] <dr_willis> from wht ive seen theres plans for systemd in a few more releases.. :) but not soon
[13:40] <dr_willis> !upstart
[13:40] <dr_willis> No idea what had to be done to gnome for upstart
[13:41] <sobhan2> dr_willis: since gnome 3.7 depend on systemd-logind...
[13:42] <dr_willis> cant say ive noticed. ;)
[13:43] <nearst> sup
[13:46] <Zentaur> is 50 gb enough for / ?
[13:47] <captine> Zentaur, i only have used 12.6 gig of my /   I had lots of space and set over 100gig for it, but am regretting it now.
[13:48] <nearst> im upgrade release precise to quantal done with error
[13:48] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  ive filled up a 20gb/  so i say 50 is good..
[13:48] <dr_willis> but i used a lot of /tmp/  ;)
[13:48] <dr_willis> and cache for the apt-cacher-ng
[13:48] <sobhan2> why #ubuntu in irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net aren't the same
[13:49] <nearst> why not same?
[13:50] <jrib> sobhan2: they should be; maybe you got stuck in a netsplit?
[13:51] <AlphaPinky> Hello. I heard Ubuntu is doing OS for phones too. Can I install it in my SAmsung Galaxy S2?
[13:52] <nearst> AlphaPinky, official release maybe 2014 :(
[13:53] <AlphaPinky> too late =(
[13:53] <AlphaPinky> that´s sad. i hate my phone :(
[13:54] <VictorRedtail|Sa> Hello
[13:54] <nearst> AlphaPinky, aww. there is plenty of cook rom at xda. :P
[13:54] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: depend how much trouble you can risk
[13:55] <AlphaPinky> the problem is, it is still android.
[13:55] <VictorRedtail|Sa> I have a question about Inter Matrix (Rapid Storage Tech) Raid (in the RAID 1 config) and Ubuntu. The question is will it read the RAID at all or will it fail to read any drives or see both drives as seperate?
[13:55] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: you can remove android and install any distro you like (good luck)
[13:55] <AlphaPinky> sobhan2, that´s the issue.
[13:56] <AlphaPinky> i´m not aware of alternatives.
[13:56] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: ubuntu should run fine
[13:56] <sobhan2> rolling ubuntu might be better
[13:57] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: if by alternatives you mean this
[13:57] <jpds> sobhan2: Then you have a device that's a phone, but not a phone.
[13:57] <AlphaPinky> yes
[13:57] <AlphaPinky> not a good solution
[13:58] <sobhan2> jpds: rolling ubuntu unity don't support touch screen ?
[13:59] <jpds> sobhan2: What are you talking about?
[13:59] <kingbeast> can I get a highlight real quick
[13:59] <jpds> kingbeast: No.
[13:59] <kingbeast> thank jpds
[13:59] <kingbeast> lol
[13:59] <AlphaPinky> :)
[13:59] <sobhan2> jpds: never mind
[14:00] <fedor> hi there. I have an issue with space for root. 300 Mb remains, and that's annoying. Can I enlarge root partition?
[14:00] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: are you sure ?
[14:00] <AlphaPinky> sobhan2, sure about what?
[14:01] <padhu> fedor: are you tried with gparted?
[14:01] <sobhan2> AlphaPinky: did you tried to install ubuntu with android ?
[14:01] <AlphaPinky> I did not.
[14:01] <nearst> !gparted | fedor
[14:01] <AlphaPinky> sobhan2, have you seen it?
[14:01] <AlphaPinky> I have only seen remote sessions.
[14:02] <fedor> thanx, i knew that though
[14:02] <nearst> AlphaPinky, worth to try :P
[14:02] <AlphaPinky> I think so.
[14:02] <AlphaPinky> But I wouldnt do it before researching more the subject.
[14:03] <dirk_schmitt> Hello I need some advice on correctly handle bug #1072843
[14:03] <dirk_schmitt> How can I assign the bug to the precise release ?
[14:04] <dirk_schmitt> (The bug is fixed in quantal and raring.)
[14:04] <jpds> dirk_schmitt: "Nominate for series" link.
[14:04] <GENNARO> CIAO SONO GENNARO
[14:05] <jpds> dirk_schmitt: Which I don't think you can see unless you're in bug control team.
[14:05] <dirk_schmitt> I don't have a "nominate for series" link
[14:05] <jpds> !it | GENNARO
[14:05] <dirk_schmitt> How can I assign to the bug control team ?
[14:05] <jpds> dirk_schmitt: Done.
[14:06] <padhu> dirk_schmitt: launchpad account
[14:06] <padhu> dirk_schmitt: and bug repoter
[14:06] <jwtiyar> After installing Xfce on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and adding conky to my desktop, I rebooted but the system doesn't load.
[14:06] <dirk_schmitt> jpds: thanks
[14:06] <jwtiyar> I went to recovery mode but choosing any option gives this screen and nothing happens:
[14:07] <jwtiyar> this screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wuswwlsqa5kf2n/IMAG0249.jpg
[14:07] <dirk_schmitt> padhu: I was the original bug reporter
[14:08] <padhu> dirk_schmitt: then what?
[14:08] <nearst> jwtiyar, what u try to do?
[14:09] <jwtiyar> nearst: i want to boot it
[14:09] <neto> Hi everyone!
[14:09] <nearst> jwtiyar, ctrl + D
[14:09] <dirk_schmitt> padhu: Just the question how to obtain the rigts to "control bugs" / assign to the "bug control team".
[14:09] <sobhan3> Hi
[14:09] <jwtiyar> nearst: but  after installing xfce and rebooting its not booting
[14:12] <nearst> and "not booting" mean? no grub? no login interface? try verbose mode on kernel
[14:14] <jwtiyar> Hi
[14:15] <jwtiyar> Ubuntu it's not booting
[14:16] <jwtiyar> Hello?
[14:17] <nearst> try recovery mode?
[14:17] <padhu> jwtiyar: need more info for further guidelines
[14:18] <jwtiyar> Nearst in recovery when i select an option will stop
[14:18] <Nix_> ok, can I send message now?
[14:18] <jwtiyar> The i have putted in previous chat
[14:18] <jwtiyar> The picture
[14:18] <Nix_> messages*, can someone read me?
[14:19] <padhu> Nix_: please follow IRC rules
[14:19] <andsch> Hello. I would like to burn a Ubuntu liveCD, and I'm wondering if a 800MB would produce a much faster LiveCD than the standard writable DVD...
[14:19] <nearst> jwtiyar, is that hang at your /dev/sda7 ?
[14:20] <andsch> I would like to know, also, if such CD is hard to find...
[14:20] <nearst> andsch, try boot from usb?
[14:20] <Nix_> Padhu: it's hard to follow rules when I can't use Mibbit (my favourite webclient) and the Freenode one doesn't work, also my back's been hurting for 20 hours and I'm quite upset right now...
[14:20] <andsch> nearst: I already have a usb, with written MBR. A new one would be unreasonably expensive for that purpose.
[14:21] <jwtiyar> NeaRst yes
[14:21] <cliffer> hi im just installing ubuntu 12.10. i want to have encryption... i created a mapper with an ext4 in it as /. should i create another mapper with a swap in it or do i need one mapper with / and swap in it?
[14:21] <Nix_> anyway, is there a way to install Ubuntu on an USB drive AND make that drive usable on Windows?
[14:21] <padhu> Nix_: are you tried any other client?
[14:21] <cliffer> Nix_: partition that usb drive?
[14:21] <nearst> jwtiyar, u boot in recovery mode? try nomodeset
[14:21] <Nix_> Padhu: I'm using mIRC right now
[14:22] <Nix_> cliffer: how exactly?
[14:22] <jwtiyar> Nearst how to nomodeset?
[14:22] <nearst> andsch, u can boot iso from hardrive on grub for that purpose. :)
[14:22] <cliffer> Nix_: gparted?
[14:22] <cliffer> partitions for / and /boot and swap and a partition for the data... formatted as fat32
[14:23] <Nix_> (cliffer: I know how to partition a drive, I just don't know how to partition it to make it work on Windows while Ubuntu is installed there; I tried to have a fat32 partition but I can't make Windows see it
[14:23] <vedic> I have a server colocated on a remote data center. It is running Ubuntu and some old softwares which I don't want now. Is it possible to install fresh OS without visiting data center?
[14:23] <mhs> Where I can find a graphical user interface for 3g data dongle in UBUNTU 12.10?
[14:23] <andsch> nearst: can I boot using grub legacy and an image on a NTFS partition? My linux partition is encrypted, and so has problems with grub legacy.
[14:23] <jwtiyar> nearst which one i have to edit?
[14:24] <padhu> Nix_: okey...
[14:24] <nearst> jwtiyar, http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[14:24] <andsch> nearst: And I wouldn't like to overwrite my HDD's MBR, as that would compromise my desired setup (i.e., having windows bootstarter on it)
[14:24] <SolarisBoy> Nix_: possibly you should mark that partition as a msdos partition?
[14:24] <cliffer> what is right? crypt-mapper->(swap and /) OR [crypt-mapper->swap; crypt-mapper->/]
[14:24] <SolarisBoy> with fdisk/cfdisk or whatever
[14:24] <vedic> I have a server colocated on a remote data center. It is running Ubuntu and some old softwares which I don't want now. Is it possible to install fresh OS without visiting data center?
[14:24] <cliffer> what is right? crypt-mapper->(swap and /) OR [crypt-mapper->swap; crypt-mapper->/]
[14:25] <nearst> andsch, im use grub-legacy anyway :)
[14:25] <nearst> afk
[14:26] <vedic> Can a new OS be installed while the server is running? If reboot requires that is not an issue. I can reboot server as many times as I want. But I want to delete everything from it and install from scratch. I don't have physical access to the server
[14:26] <detrimental> i am trying to manually set up partitions. trying to dual boot windows 8 and linux gpt does anyone know a good guide or something on manually setting up partition to dual boot windows gpt?
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> vedic: sure but its not easy and at one point youll need to boot into the new kernel
[14:27] <SolarisBoy> vedic: it would be way safer to have someone physically access it at the colo - but for instance you could debootstrap a new system update grub and boot into it - but its not a "easy" thing
[14:27] <nearst> andsch, im not overwrite mbr, im boot my box from windows bootloader for dd image
[14:28] <vedic> SolarisBoy: Can I undo all the software installations that were done after installing the server?
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> vedic assuming you have a free disk or partition with space attached sure
[14:29] <vedic> Ok
[14:29] <jwtiyar> nearst now it show me terminal login screen
[14:29] <Nix_> cliffer: do I have to format the 'data' partition in FAT32 and the others in ext(2,3,4)?
[14:29] <NimeshNeema> Playing any flash videos is showing a lot of grains over the playback in my Ubuntu install. How do I fix this ?
[14:29] <NimeshNeema> Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vy9t8i1rp97dywk/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-02%2019%3A53%3A45.png
[14:29] <SolarisBoy> in which case you could debootstrap to that space and point grub and the kernel to mount that as root - but as stated you'll want to review the process before doing it.
[14:29] <jpds> vedic: Installing while something is running sounds like a world of pain.
[14:30] <vedic> SolarisBoy: Is there any safe way to install Ubuntu 12.04 on 10.04 LTS? I want to ensure that server doesn't become inaccessible
[14:30] <cliffer> Nix_: fat32
[14:30] <vedic> SolarisBoy: Kindly of OS upgrade
[14:30] <andsch> nearst: okay, man. But how do I do that?
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> vedic: if you dont have a problem with rebooting why not just do dist-upgrade assuming your going from LTS to LTS
[14:31] <vedic> SolarisBoy: yea, but I don't think dist-upgrade does full OS upgrade
[14:31] <jpds> SolarisBoy: Because he wants to remove old stuff.
[14:31] <jpds> vedic: It does.
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> oh right - then yea
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> if thats the case - and you dont have the phys access then the only other way i can see is to do a debootstrap - manual setup
[14:31] <mhs> Where I can more help on 3g data dongle connections in ubuntu 12.10.?
[14:32] <vedic> SolarisBoy: And that is safe?
[14:32] <nearst> andsch, im use dd bs=512 count=1 method
[14:32] <vedic> SolarisBoy: I don't want data center engineers to charge me if server become inaccesible :)
[14:32] <Kneferilis1> hello
[14:32] <vedic> =
[14:32] <SolarisBoy> also - what does remove old stuff mean . not being simple but in the upgrade process it will strip things that are no longer supported, and then can't you just remove the apps you don't want?
[14:33] <SolarisBoy> vedic: heh
[14:33] <Kneferilis1> is there a email newsletter I can subscribe to, that send me linux commands and examples?
[14:33] <vedic> SolarisBoy: I mean, they will make it accesible again but on payment
[14:33] <SolarisBoy> if your looking for "safe" take a backup and do a dist-upgrade
[14:33] <jpds> vedic: You're going to have to remove the things you don't want by hand.
[14:34] <SolarisBoy> removing old stuff - you just remove it with apt thats all
[14:34] <vedic> SolarisBoy: I have virtual machine on that server and they are setup from command line. They are occupying lot of space. Also the host has some mysql, php stuff that I need to clean
[14:34] <SolarisBoy> ok. remove it
[14:34] <vedic> jpds: i see
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> apt-get purge <pkg> anything that doesn't remove - delete it
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> problem solved
[14:35] <vedic> SolarisBoy: I see
[14:35] <nearst> andsch, http://www.thpc.info/dual/xp2knt/ntldr_dual_ubuntu_on_xp2k.html
[14:35] <bazhang> !abs | Kneferilis1
[14:35] <vedic> Will try that
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> if you were willing to re-install apparently none of that data matters, so purge it
[14:35] <vedic> ok
[14:36] <kapil> hello
[14:36] <vedic> brb in 10 min.
[14:36] <SolarisBoy> going to starbucks
[14:37] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[14:38] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[14:39] <thevoid> hey folks,  my ubuntu box has 2 nics  one used for just lan traffic,  and one used for the internet connection  (the rest of the lan is on a different isp)   when i ssh into the box on the lan  logging in is very slow,  but if i connect through the outside ip,  its virtually instant.  any suggestions as to where i'm going wrong?
[14:39] <lopez> is there a way to enable remote desktop with ssh alone
[14:39] <jimmy_lo> Hi
[14:40] <Kneferilis1> bazhang: thanks, I have this on my chrome startup, http://bellard.org/jslinux/ does  it support most linux commands?
[14:41] <jimmy_lo> I use ubuntu 12.04, I use command "sudo apt-get install libsoup", it shows "E: Unable to locate package libsoup"
[14:41] <Kneferilis1> I have virtua box images of ubuntu, but both my work and home PCs run the images slowly, so I don't use them much
[14:41] <llutz> !info libsoup2.4-1 | jimmy_lo
[14:41] <thunkee> thevoid: had a similiar problem ... its cause was the reverse lookup of the incoming connection
[14:41] <Kneferilis1> I use linux at work, through ssh, but not very often
[14:41] <Kneferilis1> an I can't use that as playgrounf
[14:42] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[14:42] <llutz> jimmy_lo: use "apt-cache search libsoup" to find the correct packagename
[14:42] <jimmy_lo> Ok
[14:42] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[14:42] <Kneferilis1> bazhang: where can I find that guide in pdf?
[14:45] <sfdve1213> Can someone help me install the right drivers for Intel GM965/GL960?
[14:46] <Kneferilis1> thanks, I found it in pdf
[14:46] <georgetso> greetings! I'm with 1104, I want to dist-upgrade to 1204 instead of 1210, how can I do that? thank you.
[14:47] <histo> !eol georgetso
[14:47] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[14:47] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[14:48] <jimmy_lo> llutz, it shows libsoup I am using is 2.38.1 and is already newest
[14:48] <georgetso> histo: sorry what?
[14:48] <andsch> nearst: ty vm
[14:48] <jimmy_lo> But I need >= 2.40.0
[14:48] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | georgetso
[14:49] <georgetso> bazhang ubottu thank you. so I can choose to upgrade to 1204 instead of 1104?
[14:50] <bazhang> georgetso, yes, please see the link. ubottu is a bot by the way
[14:50] <jimmy_lo> llutz, so I have to download, build, and install libsoup manually?
[14:50] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[14:50] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[14:50] <georgetso> bazhang: thanks, great. well ubottu did a great job being a bot
[14:57] <jigsaw> Can I install ubuntu from flash drive?
[14:57] <jigsaw> i mean to* flash drive?
[14:57] <Kneferilis1> has anyone tried this: http://bellard.org/jslinux/ to learn more about linux commands/bash scripting?
[14:58] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent  jigsaw
[14:59] <jigsaw> Thz bazhang
[14:59] <param> installing vmware on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:00] <param> help... how to install vmware on ubuntu.
[15:01] <yeats> jimmy_lo: what is your overall goal? I'm assuming libsoup is a dependency.. for what?
[15:01] <jimmy_lo> webkit
[15:02] <jimmy_lo> yeats, I am building webkit using command "build-webkit --gtk"
[15:03] <jimmy_lo> but it tells me "configure: error: Package requirements (libsoup-2.4 >= 2.40.0) were not met: Requested 'libsoup-2.4 >= 2.40.0' but version of libsoup is 2.38.1"
[15:04] <ShapeShifter499> hi no one is answering me right now in #ubuntustudio but anyways I was wondering, yesterday someone there suggested that if I was to install Ubuntu Studio on top of my current Ubuntu installation I should also install the low-latency kernel,  what is the low-latency kernel and do I really need it?   I'm guessing it's for audio and to help minimize lags and issues that may occur for optimal use
[15:04] <yeats> !info libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 precise
[15:04] <zykotick9> jigsaw: if you DON'T want to use the USB as an installer, i'd recommend doing a regular/full install to USB's over using persistance.
[15:05] <yeats> jimmy_lo: you could try 'sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-1.0-0'
[15:05] <cristian_c_> 7join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:05] <yeats> jimmy_lo: unless you need a specific version
[15:05] <jimmy_lo> I just tried, it tells " libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 is already the newest version."
[15:06] <john_redmond> hello all
[15:06] <jimmy_lo> I met glib problem before this, so I downloaded, built, and installed manually
[15:06] <x-Na> Hello all.
[15:07] <john_redmond> Hello X-Na
[15:07] <jimmy_lo> So I think I have to do it again...
[15:07] <jimmy_lo> yeats, do you have other suggestions
[15:07] <x-Na> Has anyone else bumped into this, I noticed my machine was generating a lot of network traffic, as I only have 1Mbits upward, it was eating all up. Started digging into it, and the traffic was going to cherufe.canonical.com, port 443
[15:07] <Kneferilis1> hmm, this doesn't have bash installed: http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[15:08] <yeats> jimmy_lo: so you're following this?: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingGtk
[15:08] <zykotick9> x-Na: that's ubuntuone
[15:08] <x-Na> Hmmh
[15:08] <angs> who decides what version of a program would be available on ubuntu software center?
[15:09] <x-Na> Ok, so for some reason it was trying to upload something
[15:09] <jimmy_lo> yeats, I was following that in 11.04
[15:09] <sfdve1213> I need help installing the proper graphics drivers please
[15:09] <john_redmond> probably a back=up X
[15:09] <yeats> jimmy_lo: okay - so you started on 11.04, then upgraded to 12.04?  I'm confused...
[15:10] <jimmy_lo> Yes, because such problems
[15:10] <jimmy_lo> some told me that 11.04 is end of life
[15:10] <yeats> jimmy_lo: well 11.04 is EOL, so I'm not surprised you'd have problems there
[15:11] <jimmy_lo> But I still have problems on 12.04
[15:11] <janisozaur> hello. some time ago i've resized my ext4 data partition (shrunk it), i think it was done using gparted. since that time, i am no longer able to mount the partition. my partition table can be seen here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1323345/part.png and i get following message in syslog when i try mounting it: "EXT4-fs (sda5): bad geometry: block count 132120552 exceeds size of device (131855479 blocks)". can i fix this?
[15:12] <jimmy_lo> yeats, is it possible that I don't add enough repositories
[15:12] <Kneferilis1> bash is kinda large, but I have only half megabyte free space: http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[15:13] <Kneferilis1> any suggestions?
[15:13] <yeats> jimmy_lo: no - the problem is that you're trying to build something that requires newer versions of dependencies than are available on 12.04
[15:13] <yeats> jimmy_lo: this is one of the reasons you want to stick with versions in the repo if possible
[15:14] <yeats> jimmy_lo: so it looks like you have libwebkitgtk-1.0.0 installed - what isn't working when you try to use it?
[15:14]  * yeats isn't familiar with its use, but can help generally with software installation
[15:15] <jimmy_lo> yeats, you mean what I see when I use command "build-webkit --gtk"?
[15:16] <Kneferilis1> ok, I want to use a web based ssh shell, any suggestions? I also need a linux box for free, any sites doing that?
[15:16] <yeats> jimmy_lo: no - I mean, why aren't you able to use the version that is (apparently) already installed?
[15:17] <jimmy_lo> yeats, I am learning how to build webkit
[15:17] <nearst> Kneferilis1, try shellinabox
[15:18] <jimmy_lo> yeats, and webkit source code
[15:18] <yeats> jimmy_lo: gotcha
[15:19] <yeats> jimmy_lo: well, when you build from source and the OS packages are not the right version, you have to track down and install the right version
[15:19] <yeats> jimmy_lo: the problem with that is that the dependencies you install might conflict with the OS, causing problems
[15:19] <yeats> jimmy_lo: which is why you use APT in the first place - it protects you from that kind of thing
[15:20] <jimmy_lo> OK, I see.
[15:20] <zykotick9> yeats: if you stick to the default repos ;)
[15:20] <yeats> zykotick9: true - but in this channel, people generally recommend sticking with the Ubuntu repos
[15:21] <yeats> hard to support anything if nobody has the basics in common ;-)
[15:21] <zykotick9> yeats: right... i never see PPAs suggested... ;)
[15:21] <jimmy_lo> zykotick9, do you know how to find repos which can get what I want?
[15:21] <yeats> !ppa | jimmy_lo
[15:22] <yeats> jimmy_lo: that would probably be your next step if you're determined to build it on 12.04.  I'll also mention that 12.10 has the desired version of libsoup
[15:23] <jimmy_lo> I find this https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa
[15:23] <jimmy_lo> but it seems outdated
[15:24] <yeats> jimmy_lo: that's part of why ppas aren't supported - they depend on individuals to keep them up-to-date
[15:24] <Tinybird> Hi
[15:26] <kingbeast> Why is a seal pup on the front page?
[15:26] <kingbeast> This world has really twisted minds
[15:26] <jimmy_lo> yeats, wait, you just said "12.10 has the desired version of libsoup", so I can upgrade again.
[15:27] <kingbeast> people are shooting pool and you would rather watch a seal lay on the beach
[15:27] <kingbeast> ooops wrong channel
[15:28] <jimmy_lo> yeats, how do you know which version is used in 12.10
[15:28] <llutz> !info libsoup2.4-1 | jimmy_lo
[15:30] <jimmy_lo> !info libgtk+3.0
[15:31] <dartos> How do I set the default terminal emulator?
[15:32] <zykotick9> dartos: system wide?  if yes, try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"
[15:33] <dartos> is the default one terminator??
[15:33] <jimmy_lo> yeats, in effect, I had updated glib manually from 2.28 to 2.32 on 11.04
[15:33] <jimmy_lo> yeats, thats
[15:33] <dartos> zykotick9: It isn't changing :(
[15:34] <jimmy_lo> yeats, that's because I met the same problem
[15:34] <jimmy_lo> yeats, I think I have to do it again.
[15:34] <zykotick9> dartos: interesting... i got no more suggestions, good luck.
[15:35] <dartos> zykotick9: ...thanks...i guess
[15:36] <nearst> jockey not work well. cant detect my driver
[15:36] <Kneferilis1> nearst: thanks, but it rquires Java, I have disabled Java in browsers, both at work and home pc
[15:37] <Kneferilis1> you can catch trojans with Java applets nowadays
[15:38] <nearst> yaa
[15:38] <viski30> I need help installing drivers on Ubunto 10.04 for ELO USB touchscreen monitor
[15:40] <nearst> viski30, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EloTouchScreen
[15:41] <Kneferilis1> how can you access a linux server with pop3 or imap?
[15:42] <l0p3n> Hello! I have a question about GRUB. Is it correct to say that GRUB
[15:42] <l0p3n> installed on the MBR will always have higher priority than GRUB installed
[15:42] <l0p3n> on any other partition? Does BIOS always first check in the MBR when
[15:42] <l0p3n> searching for a boot loader?
[15:42] <FloodBot1> l0p3n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <llutz> Kneferilis1: you install and configure a pop3/imap server (dovecot, courier....)
[15:43] <nearst> !mbr | l0p3n
[15:44] <designbybeck__> so Ubuntu's default swappiness is 60, if you have a lot of ram, can you bump this up for faster performance?
[15:44] <l0p3n> It's just a question out of interest. At the moment I have no problem booting into Linux.
[15:46] <Kneferilis1> so pop3 and imap is not just for emails?
[15:46] <llutz> l0p3n: yes
[15:46] <nearst> u can use pop3s and imaps too
[15:47] <llutz> Kneferilis1: both are protocols to access mails
[15:47] <l0p3n> llutz: Alright thanks for clearing that up =)
[15:48] <param> HOW to install vmware on ubuntu ?
[15:49] <param> please help to intsall vmware on ubuntu
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !vmware
[15:49] <bonhoeffer> i'm trying to format a new drive
[15:49] <nearst> fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters
[15:50] <nn0101> anyone run sandy bridge (core i7) here on 12.10?
[15:51] <nn0101> my fan is running crazy and my log gives me:  CPU0: Package power limit normal
[15:51] <nn0101> CPU0: Package power limit notification (total events = 176)
[15:52] <nn0101> intel/ati dual graphics is what i suspect
[15:52] <nn0101> although i've turned off ati card.
[15:53] <bonhoeffer> how do i format the volume in a way that has good performance? 2000.399 GB is what i'm going to say, but that came up as a bad performer before
[15:53] <bonhoeffer> "The partition is misaligned by 3072 bytes. This may result in very poor performance"
[15:53] <bonhoeffer> any help is greatly appreciated
[15:58] <bonhoeffer> i'm confused why this doesn't work out of the box -- i have to do calculations to partition a drive?
[15:59] <contrapunctus> bonhoeffer
[15:59] <contrapunctus> I've never faced this...GParted has always done whatever I wanted it to :\
[15:59] <zykotick9> bonhoeffer: just to make sure - you realize alignment is a partition issue, not a formatting one right?
[16:00] <bonhoeffer> correct
[16:00] <otwieracz> Hello.
[16:00] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[16:00] <otwieracz> How can I use my custom /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/foobar as keyboard layout?
[16:00] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[16:00] <otwieracz> Can I somehow select it from Control Panel?
[16:00] <bonhoeffer> so i get that the beginning of the partition should align with the large physical sector
[16:01] <bonhoeffer> but zykotick9, it looks like i should use gparted -- will it do the alignment automatically?
[16:01] <bonhoeffer> should i have 1 MiB free space preceeding (that is what comes up in default in gparted)
[16:01] <zykotick9> bonhoeffer: i doubt it...  i'm not an alignment export!  gparted is certainly a good start though.
[16:02] <zykotick9> s/export/expert/
[16:02] <bonhoeffer> fair enough -- i, as well, am not an alignment expert
[16:03] <evergreen> Can someone please help me -- here's my problem http://goo.gl/YWUvx
[16:03] <genial> bonhoeffer: i used gdisk to format mine, and stumbled across that message you are referring to. solved it by setting the partition to start at sector 2048
[16:04] <bonhoeffer> genial, sounds like a good rule of thumb, but i would expect a partition manager to understand the alignment issues
[16:04] <bonhoeffer> it seems like the best rule is to align to 1MB to start
[16:06] <bonhoeffer> after formatting, how do i best mount and make that drive a permanent part of the configuration?
[16:06] <phoenixsampras> how to print from libreoffice to pdf?
[16:06] <genial> bonhoeffer: adding it to /etc/fstab would do the trick, it would be mounted on boot
[16:06] <bonhoeffer> right now it is mounted as /media/BigBackup but i imagine i need to edit fstab . . . yeha
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Bonhoeffer: you mount the partition,  not the drive
[16:07] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, thanks for the clarification
[16:07] <shomon> hi, how do I rename a usb drive?
[16:07] <bonhoeffer> is there a nice automated way to add to fstab, or is text editor the only way to go?
[16:07] <llutz> phoenixsampras: you either export as pdf or install cups-pdf and use that as printer-device
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Bonhoeffer: run: sudo blkid     you can use the UUID in fstab
[16:07] <zykotick9> shomon: depends on the format.  for ext use e2label.
[16:07] <bekks> bonhoeffer: You need a text editor.
[16:07] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:09] <bonhoeffer> cool for me, but there is not a grandma friendly option . . . i thought linux was going mainstream
[16:10] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Modifying basic system settings without a GUI has nothing to do with "going mainstream".
[16:10] <bonhoeffer> well, take mac or windows for example. you plug in a drive and it is there
[16:10] <bonhoeffer> no need for a text editor
[16:11] <bonhoeffer> you don't have to worry about alignment issues when formatting drives
[16:11] <Alocer> bonhoeffer: this is why Linux is Linux :D
[16:11] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[16:12] <shomon> zykotick9, how do I know if my usb drive is ext or not?
[16:12] <bonhoeffer> Alocer, true, and i love it -- i'm not afraid of emacs and googling config, but i thought ubuntu was taking linux to the masses
[16:12] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[16:12] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Neither on a MAc nor on Windows something is edited in the fstab by just plugging it into your computer.
[16:12] <zykotick9> shomon: "mount" in terminal should show you.
[16:12] <bekks> shomon: Run "sudo blkid"
[16:13] <Alocer> even windows 8 is using VM's now
[16:13] <bonhoeffer> bekks, i don't want to split hairs, i've plugged in drives many times and never had to edit a text file
[16:13] <bekks> Alocer: Windows 8 just provides Hyper-V, it does not use vms.
[16:14] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Yeah, so that point is totally irrelevant when talking about editing the fstab is not being mainstream.
[16:14] <Alocer> bekks: yes . win 8 do some of things virually
[16:14] <Alocer> virtually*
[16:14] <bekks> Alocer: Not a single thing.
[16:14] <shomon> ok it's vfat...
[16:14] <shomon> how do I change the label?
[16:14] <jragon> Every time I want to watch a flash video on flash I have to use 'killall pulseaudio' otherwise it goes really quickly.
[16:14] <falconx> fuck all
[16:14] <nearst> use chrome?
[16:14] <ThinkT510> shomon: gparted will let you change the label
[16:15] <bonhoeffer> bekks, point is only that adding a drive should be more automated, you surely couldn't have missed that
[16:15] <Guest82902> The "disable touchpad while typing" option is not working for me. can any one help me diagnose the problem?
[16:16] <Guest82902> I have 12.10 amd64 on a dell vostro 3560
[16:16] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Just plugging in a drive in a linux box most likely will automount it - unless it has several partitions. is using LVM, is using encryption, etc.
[16:16] <Alocer> w8 bonhoeffer is it not automated ?? i mean when u insert a flash drive ubuntu doesnt open it for you ?
[16:16] <bonhoeffer> flash drives, yes, but i'm talking about the spinning kind . . .
[16:16] <lacrymology> where do the repos added with apt-add-repository end up? how do I remove them?
[16:16] <bonhoeffer> hooked into the mobo
[16:17] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Which works like a charm here, too, unless one of the named circumstances occur.
[16:17] <Guest82902> lacrymology: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:THING/THING
[16:17] <bonhoeffer> bekks, so, maybe i'm missing something, because I'm researching fstab syntax instead of it just working
[16:17] <zykotick9> lacrymology: for ppas?  see "/msg ubottu ppa-purge" to remove them.
[16:17] <ThinkT510> lacrymology: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:18] <zykotick9> ThinkT510: source.list.d i believe... lacrymology
[16:18] <bekks> bonhoeffer: Then check the named circumstances which would prevent automounting.
[16:18] <lacrymology> ThinkT510: they don't end up there
[16:18] <Guest82902> lacrymoloy: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Lacrymology: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:18] <lacrymology> ActionParsnip: yes, I saw that now, thanks
[16:19] <lacrymology> ActionParsnip: but the --remove flag is fine
[16:19] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I need a grep command to pull only the numbers from a string of characters
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Lacrymology: delete the file for the ppa, then run: sudo apt-get update
[16:19] <xxiao> what the difference between "ubuntu" and "ubuntu 2D" at gdm login?
[16:19] <Guest82902> can some one help me with my touchpad not turning off while typing
[16:19] <xxiao> which one is the default
[16:19] <phoenixsampras> llutz: where is the export to pdf, option in libreoffice?
[16:19] <nearst> rawr
[16:19] <llutz> phoenixsampras: file -export to pdf
[16:19] <contrapunctus> xxiao, 2d is for slow/old pcs
[16:20] <phoenixsampras> llutz: thank you!!
[16:20] <xxiao> contrapunctus: thanks. i have a netbook and should use 2D then
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: 2d doesn't us3 compiz. Crashes less. Uses fewer resources
[16:20] <llutz> JokesOnYou77: grep -oE "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:digit:{1,}" foo.dat
[16:20] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: thanks! using 2D now
[16:21] <JokesOnYou77> llutz, woah, cool
[16:21] <llutz> grml, konverstation replcae....
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: if you want a super light desktop,  install lxde and use that
[16:21] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: did that, after ubuntu 12.04 is up, I apt-get install lxde
[16:21] <xxiao> then at gdm I chose lxde
[16:22] <xxiao> is that it? do I need remove unity/gnome stuff?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: why not just install Lubuntu?
[16:22] <xxiao> i noticed 2D will use swap right after login, lxde is slightly better
[16:22] <llutz> JokesOnYou77: hrm, did you receive a wikipedia link /as shown here/ or the correct pattern [ [ : d i g i t.... without spaces
[16:22] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: lubuntu does not support 12.04.1...
[16:22] <_ToPoTa_> hi. Im trying to install wubi from my usb. However I cannot boot from usb nor cd, what can i do ?
[16:22] <nearst> yup. try fresh install to avoid some problem or conflict
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: it doesn't remove anything,  you just select the DE you want at login
[16:23] <bonhoeffer> does this look suitable for a simple harddrive: ext4    defaults        0       0
[16:23] <nearst> !unetbootin|_ToPoTa_,
[16:23] <ThinkT510> !fstab | bonhoeffer
[16:23] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: i don't need really remove anytning from disk, MEM is the concern, hope using lxde under ubuntu will make things better
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: yes, there is Lubuntu 12.04 :-). It's the same difference though
[16:23]  * xxiao switches to lxde again from 2D
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao; its a much faster session
[16:24] <JokesOnYou77> llutz, I got nothing, but I'm thinking I should actually use tr instead of grep, I just have to figure out how :P
[16:24] <xxiao> i checked 'free' and swap is not used at least, meanwhile the terminal color is a little 'worse'
[16:24] <_ToPoTa_> nearst
[16:24] <llutz_> JokesOnYou77: grep -oE "[[:digit:]]{1,}"
[16:24] <nearst> xxiao, there is a a lot alternative for a "lightweight" desktop manager :)
[16:24] <_ToPoTa_> i googled but didnt find any solution
[16:24] <_ToPoTa_> cant someone enlight me ?
[16:24] <_ToPoTa_> i need to install it today
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: if you use terminal a lot, I can recommend guake
[16:25] <xxiao> nearst: i tried openbox, gdm did not present a useful screen
[16:25] <ThinkT510> _ToPoTa_: not a lot of people here recommend wubi, can't you use a proper install?
[16:25] <nearst> _ToPoTa_, http://ubuntuguide.net/create-bootable-live-usb-ubuntu-with-unetbootin
[16:25] <JokesOnYou77> llutz, It Worked!
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: why wubi? Its not a long term solution
[16:26] <_ToPoTa_> ThinkT510: i cant,
[16:26] <_ToPoTa_> because i cannot boot from USB and my cd is broken
[16:26] <xxiao> does LXDE use its own x libraries(similar to E17), or it leverages gnome-core stuff(which is heavy)
[16:26] <_ToPoTa_> so im trying to install it from the usb inside windows and using wubi
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: its gtk based if memory serves
[16:27] <ThinkT510> _ToPoTa_: why can't you boot from usb?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: what version of Windows are you using?
[16:27] <_ToPoTa_> ThinkT510:  because my old toshiba does not allow to do that,
[16:27] <_ToPoTa_> ActionParsnip:  im using windows xp sp2
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: does the system have a make and model?
[16:28] <_ToPoTa_> and actually i have created the bootable usb
[16:28] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: guake is gnome-based, i worry that it might pull in all those gnome stuff
[16:28] <_ToPoTa_> ActionParsnip:  what you mean sorry ?
[16:28] <ThinkT510> _ToPoTa_: microsoft doesn't even support xp sp2 anymore
[16:28] <xxiao> which is why i do not want to use gnome-terminal under lxde
[16:28] <JokesOnYou77> Thank you llutz
[16:29] <xxiao> so far i fee XFCE has the best font by default
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: tilda is light and similar
[16:29] <xxiao> _ToPoTa_: i spent a whole day to get ubuntu 12.04 wubi to a netbook, as my netbook does not book off usb stick and no CDROM
[16:29] <nearst> :D
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: is the system a home build or does it have a brand?
[16:30] <xxiao> _ToPoTa_: i had to use ubuntu 12.04.1's wubi.exe, then use network install to get things work
[16:30] <xxiao> it never recognized a local download iso or xz
[16:30] <bonhoeffer> is there a good way to copy folders that allows you to see progress -- i need to copy some big directories
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Xxiao: if you want super light, you can use the WM om its own and not evwn use a DE
[16:30] <bonhoeffer> a guy -- sync program would be good because it would allow me to see what failed
[16:31] <_ToPoTa_> still dont understand...
[16:31] <_ToPoTa_> the system is simply xp sp2
[16:31] <_ToPoTa_> xxiao: what procedure you mean ?
[16:31] <xxiao> ActionParsnip: i could install all those lightweight WM, i want to use one that does not pull in gnome-stuff which is heavy
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: yes but is the system made by dell? Lenovo? Toshiba!
[16:31] <nearst> fluxbox?
[16:31] <xxiao> meanwhile i don't want to use a different distro to minimize headacke on upgrades etc
[16:32] <_ToPoTa_> i think it isnt
[16:32] <llutz> bonhoeffer: rsync -a --progress /dir/ /new/path/
[16:32] <nearst> http://blog.crox.net/archives/39-Install-Ubuntu-without-cd-rom-over-the-network-Ubuntu-netboot-install,-works-for-CF-or-USB-too.html
[16:32] <xxiao> nearst: it's said awesome is awesome
[16:33] <xxiao> _ToPoTa_: i installed ubuntu 12.04 using wubi on vista from a netbook
[16:33] <xxiao> thought might be related to your case, i.e. wubi.exe is trick to use
[16:33] <nearst> my fglrx is not working, module load error
[16:33] <bonhoeffer> i'm getting stuff like this: readdir("/media/My Passport/Extras"): Input/output error (5)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: if you run  dxdiag   it will tell you the make and model of the system if it has one
[16:35] <shockbox> any body here ?
[16:35] <nearst> not sure
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Shockbox: noone at all
[16:35] <bonhoeffer> i plug in my usb drive and it mounts as /media/New Volume, but i can't cd there, i get cd:cd:10: persmission denied: New Volume
[16:35] <shockbox> i need some help
[16:35] <_ToPoTa_> xxiao:  it is toshiba
[16:35] <bonhoeffer> if i do sudo, i get sudo cd: command not found
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: ok, what model Toshiba?
[16:36] <dufa> shockbox: go ahead and ask
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Bonhoeffer: check the mount options
[16:36] <_ToPoTa_> satellita A50
[16:36] <_ToPoTa_> satellite
[16:36] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, ok -- it mounted automatically -- i can see it in disk manager, can i get anything there
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: that is the make and model of the system,  which is what I asked
[16:36] <nearst> bonhoeffer, try fdisk -l and mount /dev/<your usb> /mnt && cd /mnt
[16:37] <bonhoeffer> nearst, will do
[16:38] <_ToPoTa_> ActionParsnip:  ok, i was confused about the "model of the system"
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: does it have a floppy drive?
[16:40] <_ToPoTa_> ActionParsnip:  no it hasnt :(
[16:41] <_ToPoTa_> im loosing my hopes :P
[16:41] <_ToPoTa_> but anyways thanks for your help!!
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: then I guess wubi is for you, or usevir
[16:41] <_ToPoTa_> but wubi asks me to boot the system
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: or use virtualbox
[16:42] <_ToPoTa_> if i boot it i will not be able to boot from usb
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> _
[16:42] <_ToPoTa_> cannot use virtualbox since this toshiba is very old
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> _topota_: it will boot the internal drive,  then use the USB to continue the boot
[16:43] <_ToPoTa_> im gonna try but i think it is not like that at least what i remember
[16:43] <shomon> how do you change the label on a usb drive? it's not gparted.. it won't appear there.. or is it?
[16:43] <_ToPoTa_> see you later
[16:44] <shomon> it's vfat apparently
[16:44] <ThinkT510> shomon: yes, gparted can change the label
[16:44] <roasted> So I was playing YouTube last night, left my desktop run all night, sat down today, and now youtube is saying couldn't load plugin. Awesome. Anybody else seeing this?
[16:45] <ThinkT510> roasted: reload the page? restart the browser?
[16:45] <shomon> ThinkT510, wierd.. only my internal partitions appeared
[16:45] <shomon> although the drive was mounted
[16:45] <anonymous_> vbvbv
[16:45] <roasted> ThinkT510: been there.
[16:45] <ThinkT510> shomon: all drives appear, look at the top right to choose the drive
[16:46] <kostkon> roasted, reboot computer
[16:46] <ThinkT510> roasted: downloaded any recent updates?
[16:47] <nearst> jockey not work
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> !label | shomon
[16:47] <kostkon> roasted, at least logout and re-login
[16:47] <shomon> okay thanks ActionParsnip and ThinkT510
[16:47] <roasted> ThinkT510: not that I remember.
[16:47] <kostkon> roasted, maybe some firefox or flash left over process is causing the problem
[16:47] <roasted> kostkon: I'll try that then. I can't really afford to log out right now. Got a bunch of rendering jobs running (not to mention I shouldn't have to do that to begin with)
[16:47] <ThinkT510> roasted: there may be a flash update, check your updates
[16:48] <kostkon> roasted, ok
[16:48] <roasted> ThinkT510: flash comes packaged with Chrome. If anything, it's Chrome's fault. :P Firefox with flash works fine.
[16:48] <threex5> Is it possible to use a mac firewire isight webcam on a pc using ubuntu?
[16:48] <nidhimj22> i am unable to use ubuntu with my windows 8 laptop using wubi . ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[16:48] <nidhimj22> status 0xc000007b
[16:48] <nidhimj22> The application or operating system cold not be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.
[16:48] <nidhimj22> Is there a way to use ubuntu using wubi
[16:48] <ThinkT510> roasted: ah, i don't use ppas
[16:48] <FloodBot1> nidhimj22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <roasted> ThinkT510: nor do I
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: what is the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:48] <roasted> ThinkT510: Chrome, the browser, packages Flash on their own now.
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> how come traceroute doesn't get installed by default? =(
[16:48] <ThinkT510> roasted: chrome is a ppa, its not in the repos
[16:49] <threex5> I hooked it up, installed isight firmware tools, obtained the OSX files needed for the firmware tools, it installed OK but cheese can't find the device
[16:49] <roasted> ThinkT510: I downloaded it as a deb from Chrome's site. IT's not a PPA. I assure you of that.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Nidhimj22: chkdsk your NTFS partition
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> oh is mtr the replacement? cool i guess
[16:49] <ThinkT510> roasted: you downloaded from outside the repos therefore it isn't supported here
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> roasted: the chrome deb adds the google ppa
[16:49] <bekks> roasted: Which still doesnt change the fact that it isnt in the repos.
[16:49] <kostkon> roasted, naah
[16:49] <kostkon> roasted, it's fine
[16:49] <ThinkT510> roasted: that is akin to it being a ppa
[16:50] <roasted> ThinkT510: Oh, so now I can't ask a Chrome question here for software that's installable to Ubuntu? Makes perfect sense.
[16:50] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I see.
[16:50] <kostkon> roasted, you can
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: if you can give the output of my command. I can advise
[16:50] <roasted> ActionParsnip: working on that now. I got an error when I first ran it.
[16:51] <roasted> ActionParsnip: for you, sir - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1601957/
[16:51] <ThinkT510> roasted: you were having a flash problem that was caused by using software outside the repos, we can't support everything, there is a reason for having repos
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: do you only use chrome?
[16:52] <roasted> test
[16:52] <roasted> testing
[16:52] <ThinkT510> !test | roasted
[16:52] <roasted> ActionParsnip: sorry this channel locked up on irssi for me. Here's the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1601957/
[16:53] <roasted> ThinkT510: yes, got it, thanks a lot bro
[16:53] <roasted> ThinkT510: good lookin out. appreciate it.
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: do you only use Chrome?
[16:53] <roasted> ActionParsnip: for the vast majority of my web browsing uses, yes.
[16:53] <cam`> i installed ubuntu last night and when i started up this morning the resolution wasn't correct on the login screen.  after login all i have is my wallpaper and a right click menu :[
[16:53] <dennot> I'm trying to boot grub2 from a file instead of a UUID, but it says "error: /dev/sda1 does not exist" even though initramfs says it does exist and is accessible.
[16:53] <ThinkT510> roasted: whats wrong with chromium in the repos?
[16:53] <roasted> ActionParsnip: just dug this up - http://askubuntu.com/questions/250448/youtube-couldnt-load-plug-in
[16:53] <roasted> ThinkT510: nothing. I just choose to use Chrome. Period.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[16:54] <roasted> ActionParsnip: but... Chrome doesn't use flashplugin-installer I thought. They use PepperFlash.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: chrome has pepper flash, so you don't need Adobe's thing
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: yes, so make the system simpler, it may cause issues to have it in
[16:55] <roasted> ActionParsnip: works now
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: magic huh ;)
[16:55] <roasted> ActionParsnip: post 4 of that link
[16:55] <roasted> ActionParsnip: just mv'd .config/google-chrome/PepperFlash to PepperFlash.bak, restarted Chrome, bam works.
[16:56] <roasted> ActionParsnip: appreciate the insight :D
[16:56] <roasted> ActionParsnip: got me some RHCP going on, happy camper at the moment.
[16:56] <ThinkT510> dennot: sudo fdisk -l
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: I have that folder in tempfs for speed. I'll know to just reboot to fix it :-)
[16:57] <dennot> ThinkT510, I can't boot, and my BusyBox doesn't have fdisk
[16:57] <ThinkT510> dennot: can you use a livecd/usb?
[16:58] <dennot> ThinkT510, cat /proc/partitions gives the same information, right?
[16:59] <ThinkT510> dennot: only one way to find out
[16:59] <Guest72320> 大家好
[16:59] <Guest72320> 有朋友 在吗
[17:00] <dennot> ThinkT510, it finds the partitions okay, and they have the correct sizes.  I'm trying to fix a "/dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist" error.
[17:00] <DJones> !test !cn > Guest72320
[17:00] <DJones> !cn > Guest72320
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Dennot: does:  sudo blkid   not give what you need?
[17:02] <dennot> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu won't boot because it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist, but in initramfs, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid says it does
[17:02] <dennot> blkid shows the correct UUID
[17:03] <hjuk> Hello, I'm having a problem with the networking on Ubuntu
[17:04] <hjuk> Here's the message I get: (process:2142): WARNING: Could not initialise NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager
[17:04] <hjuk> When I run the troubleshoot command in Terminal.
[17:04] <dydzEz2_>  how do i check which version of xubuntu im using in my llive cd
[17:04] <dydzEz2_> same command as ubuntu i imagine lol
[17:04] <dennot> dydzEz2_, Menu > Help
[17:05] <ThinkT510> dydzEz2_: lsb_release -sd
[17:05] <dydzEz2_> oh and it takes you to a webpage
[17:05] <dydzEz2_> crap i had the 12.10 CD that worked perfectly on my laptop, i guess i still need to test 12.04
[17:06] <dydzEz2_> thanks, yeah its 12.10 argh, alright time to make a 12.04
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Dennot: could use the old style in fstab
[17:06] <nomike> hi
[17:07] <dennot> ActionParsnip, I tried using /dev/sda1 in fstab, but it gave the same results.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Dennot: have you fsck'd the partition.?
[17:07] <nomike> I'm having a very strange boot error on three machines. Everytime I boot, it displays the message that the disk drive for "/tmp" is not yet ready or present, and offers me the possibilities to wait, press "s" for skip or "m" for manual recovery.
[17:09] <dennot> ActionParsnip, no, I can try that.  This is part of a larger problem: it is a VM installation that boots fine on one host machine but gives a "/dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist" error on another, even though it is using an exact copy of the disk image.
[17:09] <dydzEz2_> if my live usb doesnt have any persistence space , will I fail to download packages like resistricted extras
[17:09] <funch> nomike did you tryed fsck ?
[17:09] <dydzEz2_> says check your internet connection, but its fine
[17:09] <nomike> When I do "m", enter the root password and run "ls /tmp" it displays hundreds of lines saying "ls: cannot access 510d3e51aa0bb: No such file or directory". After 1 to 5 minutes (not always the same) stuff is back to normal and "/tmp" is empty
[17:09] <dydzEz2_> oh wow the errors are actually 404 error not found
[17:10] <nomike> I don't have anything mounted on "/tmp" it's directly on the root-fs which is ext4 on a LVM on a SSF
[17:10] <nomike> s/SSF/SSD/
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Dydez2: they will download and install,  he changes just won't stick between reboots
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Dydez2: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:11] <dydzEz2_> wow nothing is installing
[17:11] <dydzEz2_> 1 sec
[17:11] <dydzEz2_> let me pastebin it
[17:11] <nomike> funch: I tried to reinstall the machine, so I doubt it's a FS error. Also I don't have those problems with other directory. Dunno, maybe ubuntu does some creepy stuff with it, like some tempfs stuff.
[17:11] <sobhan2> any one here know what ubuntu is planning to do for gnome 3.7 and logind ?
[17:12] <hjuk> Hi, Would anybody be able to help with this problem I'm having? --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/250636/cant-connect-to-internet-in-ubuntu
[17:12] <dydzEz2_> www.pastebin.com/QVBYqSHt
[17:13] <RigidWig> how can I best find out what's blocking incoming remote smtp/telnet connections to an ubuntu server?
[17:13] <dydzEz2_> i jjust got the same error on audacity download try
[17:14] <dydzEz2_>  Just tried "GeoGebra" and it says "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:14] <dydzEz2_> geogebra:
[17:15] <dydzEz2_> and thats it, are you sure its not because its live?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Dydez2_: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:15] <dydzEz2_> where is that at ActionParsnip
[17:16] <dydzEz2_> ill just type that in the terminal
[17:16] <nomike> RigidWig, you could check if you're able to telnet to those ports on "localhost". If this succeeds, try connecting to your external IP from within localhost. If this doesn't work, options are that either iptables is blocking access (try "iptables-save" and look at the output) or that the service is bound to the wrong interface).
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: yes, its a terminal command
[17:17] <dydzEz2_> 12.10 \n \1
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !info geogebra
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Fun
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: do you use a proxy for web access?
[17:18] <dydzEz2_> no, not at all
[17:18] <nomike> If this doesn't work chances are that the service is not running. Check with "netstat -tulpn"
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: if you run: sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[17:19] <Greenicus> Hello
[17:20] <dydzEz2_> let me try
[17:20] <dydzEz2_> so far  no errors
[17:20] <sobhan2> Greenicus: hi
[17:20] <dydzEz2_> smooth
[17:21] <dydzEz2_> oh wow
[17:21] <dydzEz2_> ActionParsnip it worked after i did apt-get update
[17:21] <roger21> why is my ubuntu 12.04.2 aren't the .2 be released in mid february
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: thought so
[17:21] <dydzEz2_> yeah i thought that might of worked when you mentioned it
[17:21] <dydzEz2_> thanks
[17:22] <roasted> Question - I don't have much experience with UPS units. When you get a UPS and it's running on battery, does it have to send a signal to the OS through USB or something in an effort to safely power down the system? If so, is there one that supports Ubuntu?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: your package knowledge was outdated, so you reread the available files
[17:22] <tsimpson> roger21: 2 is just the second point release, they happen every 6 months for LTS releases
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: depends on the UPS, some support Linux
[17:22] <roger21> yeah that doesn't answer my question (at all)
[17:22] <dydzEz2_> yeah, thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Dydzez2_: no worries :-)
[17:23] <tsimpson> roger21: it does, it's not based on a month number
[17:23] <roger21> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[17:24] <ThinkT510> roger21: did you enable the proposed repo?
[17:24] <xangua> roger21: so you didn't read the release info in the update manager that said that was gonna change the number of version to 12.04.2 for upcoming updates¿
[17:25] <RigidWig> nomike, telnet localhost 25 returns http://i.imgur.com/QbOWYBS.png I'm wondering how I can ping telnet to my address (remote to the ec2 instance I am having trouble with) sinec I'm behind a router
[17:25] <vedic> From command prompt, how to upgrade 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS?
[17:25] <jrib> !upgrade | vedic
[17:25] <jrib> vedic: see the server instructions at the link ubottu has sent you
[17:26] <roger21> xangua, i have no idea what you're talking about, i don't use the download manager
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vedic: sudo do-release-upgrade   if memory serves
[17:26] <sp00ky> I'm trying to install evolution on 12.04 and receiving the following error:  http://pastebin.com/TMVaDvgu
[17:26] <nomike> RigidWig, your screenshot shows that the SMTP deamon is running correctly. So you can try connecting to your IP (e.g. 10.0.0.123) and check if it works.
[17:26] <vedic> jrib: ActionParsnip: Is it safe to do do-release-upgrade? Any chances of server becoming unstable?
[17:27] <jrib> vedic: it's not supposed to of course, but you should have backups anyway
[17:27] <vedic> ActionParsnip: as I am doing it for remote server
[17:27] <llutz> roasted: there are several programs  handling ups, ilke upds,  powstatd,  nut, apcupsd etc. check those what ups-models they support
[17:27] <tsimpson> roger21: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/base-files/+changelog see the changelog
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Vedic: I've not upgraded since hardy. I always clean install
[17:28] <nomike> RigidWig, If you're behind a router, i bet you mean you have a private range network (like "10.0.0.1", "192.168.0.1", "172.blah" or something). In this case you need to to NAT and forward port "25" from outside to your server. How this is done depends on the router you have...
[17:28] <GeekSquid> vedic: is this a cloud instance, or  physical machine
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> ActionParsnip: You should try it.  You  can always clean install if you don't like what you get.
[17:28] <vedic> GeekSquid: Physical colocated machine
[17:29] <RigidWig> nomike, it seems telneting the ip of the ubuntu server doesn't work "trying #.#.#.# ..."
[17:29] <RigidWig> nomike, and that's from the server itself
[17:29] <RigidWig> nomike, (the public IP)
[17:29] <vedic> ActionParsnip: I don't think it would be possible to do clean install for 12.04 if all I have is ssh access of remote server
[17:29] <nomike> check with "ifconfig"
[17:30] <nomike> this shows the IP of the server itself
[17:30] <GeekSquid> vedic: I just got in the room, which versions are you upgrading from-to, and what services/application is the server running?
[17:30] <roger21> that so ridiculous... so we will make it the .2 latter but we will call your system .2 know just to be ready
[17:30] <roger21> is that it?
[17:31] <roger21> now
[17:31] <RigidWig> nomike, yes, if I use the inet address of eth0 to "telnet address 25", then it works
[17:31] <RigidWig> nokike, but doing so with the public IP does not. I was hoping to get the ubuntu server to listen to a remote connection so that I could use it as a mail server
[17:31] <nn0101> excellent. discrete graphics problem solved!
[17:32] <llutz> RigidWig: sudo lsof -i :25         on the server says what?
[17:32] <roger21> i should change my firefox version number to 20.4 just to be ready too
[17:32] <nomike> RigidWig, well, the public IP doesn't belong to your server. Only IP's listed in "ifconfig" belong to your server. As you've said that you are beind a router, I bet the public IP belongs to the router.
[17:33] <RigidWig> lluts http://i.imgur.com/salvoer.png
[17:33] <llutz> RigidWig: check "grep inet_interfaces /etc/postfix/main.cf"
[17:33] <roger21> and change the year to 2015 to be ready when it comes
[17:33] <GeekSquid> vedic: did you see my last question?
[17:33] <llutz> RigidWig: so it listens on all adresses
[17:33] <roger21> we are never too prepared you know
[17:33] <RigidWig> llutz: = all
[17:33] <nomike> RigidWig, and you need to tell your router what to do with incoming connections on port 25.
[17:33] <RigidWig> llutz I saw that on an online guide it still doesnt work though
[17:34] <vedic> GeekSquid: From 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. If all services gets reset, thats fine. As I am looking for a way to do every thing clean install as much as possible
[17:34] <nomike> If you have multiple servers behind your router and someone connects to the public IP of the router on the SMTP port, how should the router decide to which server to forward the connection?
[17:34] <RigidWig> nomike, I'm sorry I probably said it worng, my home ip is behind a router, this server's ip (amazon ec2 isntance) is not, and it has a proper domain and public ip
[17:34] <nomike> RigidWig, ok..that's a different storry then..;-)
[17:34] <RigidWig> nomike when I was talking about being behind a router, I meant that I couldn't accept that server (ec2 instance)'s telnet on my home pc for testing purposes
[17:35] <RigidWig> nomike but I am just trying to get the server's smtp to listen publicly
[17:35] <RigidWig> llutz it seems that I can not connect to it on port 25 though, from a remote machine
[17:35] <llutz> RigidWig: mind to give the public IP here`
[17:35] <RigidWig> llutz so either another setting has to be changed for postfix, or something on the system is blocking that port?
[17:36] <llutz> RigidWig:master .....  *:smtp            < that says that postfix already listens on all adresses available, so its not a postfix config-issue
[17:36] <nomike> RigidWig, you can try to use netcat "nc" to create a listener on some other port and try to connect to it via telnet. (e.g. "nc -l -p 4711"). Maybe amazon is blocking the SMTP-Port somehow to prevent spammers. And you seem to be able to connect to ssh or something similar.
[17:36] <GeekSquid> vedic: I would install tasksel, use it to remove all services, essentially only ubuntu-server selected, then I would sudo apt-get update  & & sudo apt-get upgrade ... bringing everything up to the latest in the repos, then make sure it reboots with out a problem then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and you are on your way to a clean install of 12.04 lts
[17:37] <llutz> RigidWig: sudo iptables -vL
[17:37] <llutz> RigidWig: from outside it shows "25/tcp filtered smtp"
[17:38] <RigidWig> llutz http://i.imgur.com/l5zL0Tx.png (sorry for imager just a plugin that makes it faster than pastebin)
[17:39] <RigidWig> nomike, I can connect to ssh, and http (nginx), but I can't seem to get the smtp server to "ping" back...
[17:39] <GeekSquid> vedic: also make sure you don't have anything funky in /etc/apt/sources.list i.e. ppa'a or third party repositories
[17:39] <RigidWig> or should I saw respond...
[17:39] <RigidWig> *say
[17:39] <vedic> GeekSquid: As of now, I do have
[17:39] <vedic> third party repo
[17:39] <vedic> ppa
[17:39] <RigidWig> llutz does 25/tcp filtered smtp mean it responded?
[17:40] <llutz> RigidWig: no it means that there is no direct access to port 25, something filters
[17:40] <nomike> RigidWig, well I bet amazon blocks smtp or does something similar
[17:40] <nomike> try to reconfigure your mailserver to listen to another port and try if it works then...
[17:40] <GeekSquid> vedic: you will need to remove/backup those, and they may not work when you put them back in ... and i really hope none of those third party things have anything to do with your network card
[17:40] <RigidWig> hmm, let me check /postfix/master settings...
[17:40] <llutz> RigidWig: i don't know ec2 but i tend to agree to nomike that amazon does something strange there...
[17:41] <RigidWig> llutz and nomike they may very well be filtering out potential spammers, I'll see if I can get it listenning on another port
[17:41] <vedic> GeekSquid: I think I would need to keep at least one package to connect back to the server i.e. openssh server.
[17:41] <llutz> RigidWig: blocking port 25 to block spam is not very intelligent
[17:41] <vedic> GeekSquid: If I remove that as well then I don't think anybody would be able to save me from visiting remote location
[17:41] <RigidWig> llutz would there be another reason?
[17:42] <llutz> RigidWig: none i'd imagine
[17:42] <GeekSquid> vedic: absolutly, but openssh-server is part of the ubuntu base, so you won't have to remove it, although if you have a ssh Key defined you will have to disable it during the upgrade, because they could get replaced
[17:43] <vedic> GeekSquid: No, I just use password every time for ssh. no setup for keys to go password less ssh
[17:44] <GeekSquid> then you are fine, .. also install 'screen' so you can keep the terminal open while doing the process, makes it easy if you loose the connection to the server
[17:44] <cheebu> i have a built in mic... that all the sudden disapeared from my sound menu... can some one help with that?
[17:44] <GeekSquid> vedic: ^^^
[17:45] <NeoColossus> Hello all
[17:45] <GeekSquid> vedic: I understand where you are at, I have had to visit a few server-rooms too, not fun especially when people are relying on it
[17:45] <llutz> RigidWig: short google tells that amazon limits smtp-traffic but doesn't block by default.
[17:46] <NeoColossus> Is there a way to create a file with [`date +%D`] as the filename?
[17:46] <vedic> GeekSquid: Sure. Are you confirmed that dist-upgrade will lead 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS? or I need to do: do-release-upgrade ?
[17:46] <llutz> NeoColossus: touch $(date +'%D')
[17:46] <GeekSquid> vedic: standby
[17:46] <atu> Hi, could anybody help with RADI1 partition size issues on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:46] <RigidWig> llutz, I guess it's possible, though I haven't sent/recieved any mail from it and it's just me testing on the server. Could be because it's a free tier...
[17:46] <llutz> NeoColossus: whoops sry, / isn't allowd char in filenames
[17:47] <llutz> RigidWig: as i said, i don't know ec2
[17:47] <RigidWig> llutz: apparently, me neither :)
[17:47] <NeoColossus> llutz: I need the actual filename to appear as "[mm/dd/yyyy]"
[17:47] <RigidWig> llutz and nomike thanks for your help guys, I'll see if I can find amazon settings or request more traffic on smtp
[17:48] <atu> Hi, could anybody help me, I've RADI1 partition size issues on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:48] <nomike> RigidWig, you're welcome
[17:48] <llutz> NeoColossus: forward-slash / is not allowed as a filenamepart
[17:49] <NeoColossus> llutz: Is there a way to have it appear as "[mm-dd-yyyy]" then?
[17:49] <xiaoy> Ìû
[17:49] <llutz> NeoColossus: touch $(date +'%m-%d-%Y')
[17:49] <GeekSquid> vedic: the correct process is sudo apt-get install update-manager-core ... then .... edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades .. and set Prompt=lts ... launch the upgrade tool: sudo do-release-upgrade ... this is the correct process after doing the checklist we have defined here
[17:50] <llutz> NeoColossus: touch \[$(date +'%m-%d-%Y')\]
[17:50] <asd123asdqwe> Hello everyone. I've compiled program, can see it with synaptic, but how do I run it?
[17:50] <NeoColossus> llutz: Thank you, that is exactly what I needed. :)
[17:50] <atu> nobody to help me for the RAD1 issue ?
[17:50] <vedic> GeekSquid: ok
[17:50] <GeekSquid> asd123asdqwe: what program
[17:50] <asd123asdqwe> Chess game
[17:50] <llutz> NeoColossus: be warned that filenames with chars like []  will cause trouble sooner or later
[17:51] <llutz> NeoColossus: its a bad idea
[17:51] <NeoColossus> llutz: It is localized to a specific folder. How is it bad?
[17:51] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, chess game.
[17:51] <GeekSquid> asd123asdqwe: the actual name?
[17:52] <llutz> NeoColossus: those have special function in bash
[17:52] <NeoColossus> llutz: I am aware of this. All reference to the created file is through a script that will properly escape the '['
[17:53] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, stockfish. After installation, package name is "src" and my description is "chess1".
[17:53] <llutz> NeoColossus: still, better to avoid them. just my 2 cts
[17:53] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, btw, can I change package name later?
[17:54] <nearst> ima do-release-upgrade -d for jump to raring dev
[17:54] <NeoColossus> llutz: Thank you for the suggestion. I may just stick with touch $(date +'%m-%d-%Y')
[17:54] <cheebu> can anyone help me with my microphone issue? it stoped working and no longer listed in the sound menu
[17:55] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, I can also see this package with ubuntu software center.
[17:56] <GeekSquid> asd123asdqwe: sounds like it's installed ... try CTRL-ALT-T and type stockfish <enter>
[17:56] <Kneferilis1> hello
[17:56] <asd123asdqwe> The program 'stockfish' is currently not installed.
[17:57] <Kneferilis1> I am connected to a linux with ssh and using vim arrow keys backspace and other keys insert characters like ? % etc, instead of doing their correct functionality, how do I fix this?
[17:57] <Kneferilis1> it also happens with pico and v
[17:57] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, argh, I could simply install it with sudo apt-get
[17:58] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, but anyway, if I already compiled it, i would like to run it.
[17:58] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: what was the prefix ?
[17:58] <asd123asdqwe> GeekSquid, maybe there's folder where all compiled programs executables are being held?
[17:59] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, where?
[17:59] <nearst> why my C library is unknown?
[17:59] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe:  the prefix with configure when you compiled it.
[18:00] <xauth> Kneferilis1: make sure the TERM variable is set correctly for the terminal emulator you're using locally.
[18:01] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, I don't remember any prefixes, sorry. I only know that package name is src and my given description is chess1
[18:01] <Kneferilis1> it's the web client I am using
[18:02] <mario_> d
[18:02] <mario_> d
[18:02] <mario_> d
[18:02] <FloodBot1> mario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: well try reading the install file with the src file . you should recompile it.
[18:03] <Kneferilis1> it was the web client causing the problems
[18:03] <Kneferilis1> but now in putty I press delete and it doesn't work
[18:03] <Alocer> can i laugh ?
[18:04] <guideX> my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600
[18:04] <guideX> how do I change it
[18:04] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, ok.
[18:04] <guideX> also how do you enable the scrollbars
[18:04] <xauth> Kneferilis1: web client? I thought you said ssh.
[18:04] <guideX> in unity 12.10
[18:05] <Alocer> guideX: first configure your x11 using "man xorg.conf"
[18:05] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, Done. The new package has been installed and saved to
[18:05] <asd123asdqwe>  /home/alexander/Desktop/stockfish-231-linux/src/src_20130202-1_i386.deb
[18:05] <asd123asdqwe>  You can remove it from your system anytime using:
[18:05] <asd123asdqwe>       dpkg -r src
[18:05] <asd123asdqwe> Oh, sorry.
[18:06] <guideX> ok checking it out..
[18:06] <Alocer> :P
[18:06] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, so, deb package installed again.
[18:06] <guideX> alocer..
[18:07] <guideX> is there a way we can do the other thing first? I cannot scroll past page 1
[18:07] <Alocer> guideX:  i think your main problem is graphic driver
[18:07] <guideX> oic
[18:07] <Alocer> guideX:  I m not an expert ...
[18:08] <guideX> yeah me either :/
[18:08] <guideX> <- lame windows user
[18:08] <yugnip> guideX, no worries, you'll be a ubuntu power-user in no time :)
[18:08] <Tuxmascot> What command transfers an iso to a usb drive?
[18:09] <yugnip> Tuxmascot, dd
[18:09] <Tuxmascot> What is the syntax?
[18:09] <Tuxmascot> dd if=??? ???
[18:09] <Tuxmascot> I forgot the entire thing
[18:10] <asd123asdqwe> cp stockfish /usr/local/bin        cp: cannot stat `stockfish': No such file or directory        could this be a problem?
[18:10] <roger21> i need to fsck all my drive what small live cd can i use?
[18:10] <yugnip> Tuxmascot, sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/whatever
[18:10] <roger21> drives
[18:11] <roger21> does the mini iso include a prompt thingy with basic rescue commands?
[18:13] <nearst> ouch
[18:14] <l057c0d3r> well..  took my lubuntu iso i had.. installed it.. then turned around and uninstalled all desktop apps , lxde, lightdm, and openbox....  got it back down to terminal...  then installed gnome and cairo-dock.... and i have to say.. this is the best looking linux system i have built yet :-).
[18:14] <l057c0d3r> loving the gnome(classic) with compiz / cario-dock combo..  no gnome panels.. just cairo-dock...
[18:15] <yugnip> Tuxmascot, extensive explanation of dd http://www.forensicfocus.com/linux-dd-basics
[18:16] <asd123asdqwe> Guys?
[18:16] <cheebu> can some one help me with my sound card? My mic doesent want to work...
[18:16] <yugnip> l057c0d3r, you may already now this, but you could have kept lubuntu desktop and just installed Cairo as a session. that way you can have both :P
[18:16] <cheebu> maybe reinstall all the audio drivers?
[18:16] <l057c0d3r> now if i can just get this netflix ppa to work like they said it does...  and this will be the best linux setup i've put together
[18:17] <xiaoy> Ìû
[18:17] <Alocer> anyine uses cairo dock in 12.10
[18:17] <l057c0d3r> yugnip, yeah.. but i like the gnome application menu better..
[18:17] <Alocer> with unity ?
[18:18] <Physicist> Greetings! Plaese, how do I change, to log without roo!
[18:18] <Physicist> Greetings! Plaese, how do I change, to log without roo!
[18:18] <Physicist> Greetings! Plaese, how do I change, to log without roo!
[18:18] <FloodBot1> Physicist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <l057c0d3r> and i'm trying to keep the system as small as i can.. so i dropped all the other junk like lxde i didn't need
[18:18] <l057c0d3r> Alocer, yeah.. i tried it out....   but settled on using gnome with it instead..
[18:19] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, you ran out of ideas or my question is too stupid to answer?
[18:20] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: actually i m a noob myself. but the thing is your question needs more information
[18:21] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: generally when u compile a src file the binary file goes to /usr/local/... and etc
[18:21] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: but you build  a deb package with a src file which i have no idea what is going on there .
[18:21] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: so accept my sympathy
[18:23] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, src is just name of package. Kinda stupid name.
[18:23] <Alocer> r u compiling this : stockfishchess.org/ ?
[18:24] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, yes.
[18:24] <l057c0d3r> k quick question.  is there a way i can save output from terminal to a text file..  and display it on the terminal at the same time...
[18:24] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, downloaded linux version compiled using make and sudo checkinstall
[18:25] <nearst> l057c0d3r, , command >> output
[18:25] <cheebu> can any one help me with sound problems?
[18:25] <l057c0d3r> k so two >> instead of one
[18:25] <l057c0d3r> heh noticed that one > put the output in the text file  but didn't display
[18:25] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe:  ( http://support.stockfishchess.org/kb/advanced-topics/compiling-stockfish-on-linux  )u have read this didnt you ?
[18:25] <ioria> one overwrites
[18:27] <ioria> or use 'cat' >
[18:27] <dch> l057c0d3r: you want tee.
[18:27] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, argh. I've seen this when I was running make. Thank you. Try #2
[18:27] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe:  np :P
[18:28] <Alocer> ioria: u mean command | cat output.txt ?
[18:28] <l057c0d3r> dch,  yes i would love some tea  :-P  tee you say
[18:28] <l057c0d3r> k so >> appends it to the file instead of overwriting.. but still no display on the terminal.. just to the text file
[18:28] <dch> l057c0d3r: coffee for me please, no sugar or milk. like this:  cat stuff | tee --append otherfile | more
[18:29] <ioria> Alocer : yes
[18:29] <dch> cat stuff >> otherfile won't display anything on the term. you're appending stuff to otherfile, not duplicating io.
[18:29] <ryeth> hello all
[18:30] <ioria> Alocer : better... cat file | command > file
[18:30] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, so all I've needed to do is make profile-build ARCH=x86-32. Will be more observant next time, thanks again.
[18:30] <l057c0d3r> dch.. what i really am trying to do is keep a log of packages installed when running install..  that way if say it doesn't work.. or i decide to remove.. it makes making sure all dependencies brought in get removed easily
[18:30] <dch> l057c0d3r: tee.
[18:30] <ryeth> i'm using irssi on ubuntu and curious, how do i view multiple chat channels on here?
[18:30] <tonsofpcs> ryeth: alt+window number or alt+a to next active window
[18:31] <tonsofpcs> you *could* split windows, but it's a pita and generally not worth it imo.
[18:31] <ryeth> thank you, tonsofpcs
[18:31] <tonsofpcs> also, look at /help window
[18:31] <nearst> :)
[18:31] <MadsRC> Afternoon folks
[18:32] <dch> after finding that libyajl2 isn't present on 12.0.4 or earlier, I built it by hand. How can I tell another source build (collectd actually) to use my hand-built one in preference?
[18:32] <l057c0d3r> dch  so something like this...  sudo apt-get install (package) | tee (log file)
[18:32] <dch> is there some flags I can export or something?
[18:32] <dch> l057c0d3r: \o/ perfect!
[18:33] <dch> l057c0d3r: personally I'd use --append in there as well.
[18:33] <dch> and a more knowledgeable person will probably tell you there's a way to dump the dependencies directly from the package name.
[18:33] <FlowRiser> QUESTION: Anyone knows where i can find some advice/help on implementing a waveform visualization in c/cpp ?
[18:33] <l057c0d3r> not worried about that.. because i was going to use a different log file for each app..
[18:33] <l057c0d3r> for easier reading later if needed
[18:34] <dch> l057c0d3r: I could have done with that today, I am swimming in package hell atm.
[18:34] <c00kee> is anyone running chrubuntu on their acer chromebook
[18:36] <l057c0d3r> dch,   yeah.. i've had that problem in the past.. thats why i am working on a solution on this fresh custom install :-)
[18:36] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: do you have anything to say related to success ?
[18:37] <MadsRC> Anyone here administers several mail servers?
[18:38] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, installed successfully, no GUI, can't find list of commands.
[18:38] <Alocer> can someone tell me what is meta package? ?  the diff between vlc meta package and vlc package ?
[18:39] <Alocer> asd123asdqwe: gz then :-)
[18:40] <janisozaur> !ot
[18:40] <kunji> Alocer: A meta package is not really a package, it's more like a list of dependencies to install a group of packages.  I don't know off hand everything in the vlc meta package though
[18:41] <Alocer> ty kunji . i just cant get what is meta package even i googled . thanx
[18:43] <asd123asdqwe> Alocer, yay, found addons that enable gui in software center.
[18:43] <Alocer> good luck then asd123asdqwe
[18:44] <axisys> anyone having issue with google chrome not able to play youtube?
[18:44] <axisys> works fine with firefox
[18:44] <axisys> runing ubuntu 12.10 64bit desktop
[18:44] <axisys> I get Could not load plugin with google chrome
[18:45] <axisys> again, works fine with firefox
[18:45] <nahual> hola
[18:46] <StinkyFeet> axisys: Yep me too. This has never been a problem before, only noticed it now when you mentioned it...
[18:46] <sote> my net always works better when running Network Tools - Ping Google.com unlimited
[18:46] <Alocer> some one said do : sudo apt-ger --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[18:46] <nahual> alguien habla español????
[18:47] <DJones> !es | nahual
[18:47] <c00kee> is anyone running chrubuntu on their acer chromebook
[18:47] <Alocer> hes not online right now
[18:47] <axisys> StinkyFeet: does it work with firefox? It works for me.. just to be sure it is google chrome related
[18:48] <nahual> gracias
[18:48] <axisys> Alocer: if i remove that then it will break firefox as well?
[18:48] <StinkyFeet> axisys: yep, FF works just fine. So did Chrome a few days ago...
[18:49] <axisys> StinkyFeet: yep.. must be some update in ubuntu's google chrome pkg
[18:49] <Alocer> there is 2 version flashplayer for linux 1. from adobe 2. from linux mostly cuzed when you have both installed
[18:49] <ThinkT510> axisys: ubuntu doesn't do a chrome pkg, its a ppa
[18:50] <sote> Chromium is working fine on youtube
[18:51] <Alocer> btw there is 2 versions of chome
[18:51] <Alocer> yup
[18:51] <axisys> sote: let me check
[18:52] <axisys> sote: is there a debian pkg available from chromium?
[18:53] <ThinkT510> !info chromium-browser | axisys
[18:53] <sote> got no idea, I'm sure someone might know
[18:54] <axisys> ThinkT510: thanks
[18:55] <nikkkola> Hi! When I activate the show Desktop command via keyboard, after minimizing game ran in Wine, cant fullscreen the game again. Only maximizes, but the "window" is displayed right below the panel (xfce). What shell I do?
[18:56] <ThinkT510> nikkkola: probably better to ask in #winehq tell them what game too
[18:56] <lombardo> nikkkola: if it was windows I would do a ALT + Enter
[18:56] <StinkyFeet> axisys: I shut down all browsers, then: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[18:57] <StinkyFeet> Then it failed in FF too. Then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:57] <axisys> Chromium works fine
[18:57] <StinkyFeet> And it works in Chrome from the google PPA as well
[18:57] <nikkkola> ALT enter doesnt seem to work
[18:57] <axisys> StinkyFeet: interesting.. ok I will try that
[18:58] <wzssyqa> Can somebody test 2 commands: gnome-terminal  -x /bin/sh -c 'cd ~/Download && exec $SHELL'
[18:58] <sote> I had to use the experimental version of nvidia to get my effects working on ubuntu 12.04.1 .. took a little while to work that out
[18:58] <wzssyqa> and gnome-terminal  -e /bin/sh -c 'cd ~/Download && exec $SHELL'
[18:58] <Alocer> aaaaaaa i remembered he moved pepperflash to pepperflash.bak or sth like this
[18:59] <ThinkT510> !dash | wzssyqa
[18:59] <wzssyqa> ThinkT510: I see. I just want somebody to help test the behavor of gnome-terminal
[19:00] <wzssyqa> ThinkT510: It seems that -x doesn't work since gnome 3.6
[19:00] <Physicist> Greetings! How do I add a user to not log in root mode?
[19:00] <Physicist> Greetings! How do I add an user to not log in root mode?
[19:01] <lombardo> Physicist: use the adduser command
[19:01] <sote> really likes this XChat 2.8.8
[19:01] <lombardo> Physicist: if you add a user that is not in the wheel group but in users group, then they cannot su
[19:01] <Physicist> lombardo, If I do it, I"ll not log in root mode, right?
[19:02] <ioria> i didn't know that you can log as root in Ubu
[19:02] <sideeffect> in hexchat, how to highlite somones name?
[19:02] <Physicist> backtrack is based in ubuntu!!
[19:02] <sote> it's advised not to
[19:02] <zykotick9> ioria: by default, you can't
[19:02] <axisys> StinkyFeet: google chrome is still failing..
[19:03] <Jexams> chrome failing?
[19:03] <sote> restricted-extras ?
[19:03] <ioria> zykotick9: true, you can in recovery mode, right ?
[19:03] <Physicist> lombardo, If I do it, I'll not log in root mode, right?
[19:03] <lombardo> Physicist: no
[19:03] <zykotick9> ioria: ya i believe so
[19:03] <axisys> works fine for FF and chromium
[19:03] <ioria> zykotick9: thanx
[19:03] <lombardo> Physicist: use adduser.. if that is not available the use useradd but that is more complicated... type useradd --help
[19:03] <axisys> Jexams: failing to load plugin in youtube and other sites
[19:03] <sote> axisys: set chrome back to default settings
[19:04] <trtr3434_ubuntu> i downloaded qt-creator source from github and build it at my local folder. how do i replace qtcreator from /usr/lib/share/qtcreator with /home/trtr3434/Development/qt-creator
[19:04] <Jexams> Ah.
[19:04] <Physicist> lombardo, Thank you!
[19:04] <lombardo> Physicist: sure
[19:04] <Jexams> I had that problem but it worked again when I disabled one of the flash plugins
[19:04] <cndiv> Hey #ubuntu! Does anyone here use an ultra-light laptop, by any chance? Like a Samsung Series 9 or Acer S7?
[19:05] <Jexams> I disabled libpepflashplayer and left the "Adobe Flash Player" enabled
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !anyone | cndiv
[19:05] <Jexams> After that, flash worked again
[19:05] <axisys> sote: created a new user and login as that.. same isse
[19:05] <axisys> Jexams: where?
[19:05] <Jexams> chrome://plugins
[19:05] <axisys> i am there.. looking
[19:05] <sote> make youtube full screen and right click to get settings, wont work in normal size
[19:06] <Jexams> axisys: You don't see it?
[19:06] <cndiv> OK ubottu , I'm looking for someone to review how well Ubuntu works on a Samsung Series 9 or an Acer S7
[19:06] <axisys> Jexams: i see it now.. blind :-)
[19:06] <Eighteens> what causes the evoution icon to hide it'self in panel up top, under lucid
[19:06] <Jexams> axisys: haha, that's good. Hopefully it fixes it for you also.
[19:07] <c00kee> is anyone running chrubuntu on their acer chromebook
[19:07] <guideX> so do you guys know how to always show scrollbars in 12.10
[19:08] <axisys> Jexams: that was it! thanks a lot
[19:08] <sote> I added this to Chromium to help with youtube --->  YouTube Options for Google Chrome™
[19:08] <Jexams> axisys: No problem. I'm glad to have helped, especially since I barely figured that fix out last night
[19:09] <sote> 6:10am - cya world of helpful people o/
[19:10] <guideX> is there a way to get the scrollbars back? I know there's a  way with gnome, but what about unity
[19:10] <guideX> i'm not sure why they are missing lol
[19:10] <lombardo> they are there guido
[19:11] <guideX> but they're .. not.
[19:11] <guideX> I see no scrollbars anywhere
[19:11] <lombardo> jusr hidden, but they appear when mouse over
[19:11] <sote> my opinion... unity is a nightmare ... but why did I log into KDE Plasma .. now gotta learn it
[19:11] <guideX> nah I don't see any when I go over there
[19:11] <guideX> it is
[19:12] <lombardo> guideX: just change the theme
[19:12] <sote> the DE you mean ?
[19:12] <lombardo> the window theme
[19:12] <sote> oh
[19:12] <lombardo> it must be in preferences
[19:13] <sote> might log into unity to try that
[19:13] <sote> in about 20 hours
[19:13] <guideX> there's one problem with that, I am stuck at 800x600 and I can't scroll down to click ok
[19:13] <guideX> so I can't see all of the window
[19:13] <lombardo> guideX: use TAB then hit enter
[19:13] <sote> have you installed restricted extras
[19:14] <lombardo> guideX: sucks to be you man
[19:14] <zykotick9> guideX: hold ALT and see if you can drag windows (not sure this works in unity)
[19:14] <guideX> hmm
[19:14] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:14] <lombardo> guideX: just killall -9 gdm or something
[19:14] <lombardo> guide... use windowmaker
[19:14] <lombardo> guideX: use blackbox
[19:14] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:15] <netherwolfe> quideX: to alt + click and drag in unity, you have to click with the middle scroll button.
[19:15] <zykotick9> lombardo: 1) don't use -9 unless you have to 2) gdm is old, lightdm is more likely
[19:15] <lombardo> guideX: xrandr -s 1024x768
[19:15] <netherwolfe> wait
[19:15] <netherwolfe> i lied. that's just to resize ...
[19:15] <lombardo> zykotick9: right
[19:15] <guideX> hmm it said no process found
[19:15] <guideX> gdm: no process found
[19:15] <sote> guide_x just unplug your computer pull the cover off and pull out the video card, wait 10 seconds, put it back in and put the cover back on n turn the power back on annd start the computer then open terminal and do an update and upgrade
[19:16] <lombardo> guideX: unity sucks.. you cannot even get rid of it
[19:16] <guideX> lol it's virtual heh
[19:16] <guideX> there is no video card
[19:16] <lombardo> playing in vmware?
[19:16] <guideX> just tryin gto do some php dev in virtualbox
[19:16] <sote> Gnome is close to the unity dash, it's just as cool
[19:16] <guideX> for a project which requires linux
[19:17] <lombardo> guideX: just get on console and do your thing there: CTRL ALT F1
[19:17] <sote> I don't know virtual, was always a nightmare so always just installed the live cd instead
[19:17] <guideX> bleh, I suck at vi
[19:18] <guideX> i'm better in gedit
[19:18] <guideX> but I have to be able to scroll too heh
[19:18] <lombardo> guideX: install joe... thats a reasonable editor
[19:18] <sote> use youtube to your advantage
[19:18] <ThinkT510> guideX: nano to the rescue
[19:18] <cowboydren> Can someone show me how to troubleshoot this USB storage slowness? I have a drive, Nautilus is reporting 1MB/sec; this disk moves more like 30MB/sec with Windows.
[19:19] <Martin02> I have a permissions 'love triangle' I'd like some assistance with if someone has the time to point me in a direction.ty
[19:19] <guideX> there must be some way to get "normal" scrollbars back
[19:19] <guideX> without switching to gnome or something
[19:19] <sote> do you use a mouse wheel ?
[19:19] <guideX> yeah but it's not working either
[19:20] <guideX> it does not utilize the scrollwheel
[19:20] <ioria> ThinkT510: do you know, by chance, if nano can display the the numbers of the lines ?
[19:20] <ThinkT510> ioria: good question, i think it can be made to yes
[19:21] <lombardo> guideX: ... i told you the way.. go to preferences, and change the window theme
[19:21] <sote> ahh but this is the fun part about Linux ..... to work out the bugs and faults
[19:21] <guideX> I cannot
[19:21] <guideX> I can't get to the dropdownbox heh
[19:21] <sote> or user settings in most cases
[19:21] <ioria> ThinkT510: thanks, i'll dig in the man page
[19:21] <zykotick9> ioria: you should learn a "real" editor.  vi(m) or emacs choice is yours.  ;)
[19:22] <twoshot_> martin02, i won't be answering... i'm going get food, but just ask the question
[19:22] <lombardo> guideX: sudo apt-get install joe
[19:22] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:22] <lombardo> guideX: open yur text files in that in terminal
[19:22] <vm325> hi all
[19:22] <lombardo> guideX: better yet, drop on console, and use joe there
[19:23] <ioria> zykotick9: emacs is great but very hard
[19:24] <sote> likes the Ubuntu Commercial 2012 youtube video
[19:24] <hackoo> I have a 8 GB USB drive and I want to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS in it. I tried to install but how can I use complete 8 GB for my Ubuntu, I mean I need all 8 GB persistent storage.
[19:24] <Martin02> udisk2 mounts my big 1T USB under /media/[username]/FreeAgent Drive, but sets permissions so that motion is not permitted to write there.
[19:24] <ioria> zykotick9: and i cannot use it in command line
[19:24] <Martin02> Motion is running as a dameon via init.d
[19:25] <nikkkola> hackoo, I'm not sure I understood you well. What is what you want?
[19:25] <zykotick9> ioria: emacs has a terminal version!  good heavens...
[19:25] <ioria> zykotick9: in txt mode i mean
[19:25] <cowboydren> hackoo: You're booting from one USB drive, and installing to the 8GB USB drive?
[19:26] <ioria> zykotick9: tell me please...
[19:26] <sote> hackoo:  it worked fine with Ultimate Edition 3.5 on 8gb usb stick
[19:26] <Martin02> How do I configure the 1TB drive to permit motion to write jpg's and swf's to that drive?
[19:26] <hackoo> cowboydren: yes. I have installed ubuntu in my USB drive and its 8 GB drive.
[19:26] <zykotick9> ioria: find it yourself "apt-cache search emacs" might help.
[19:26] <cowboydren> hackoo: so where's your problem? Too many partitions?
[19:27] <lombardo> Martin02: you need to mount that drive with the right umask to permit regular users to write
[19:27] <hackoo> cowboydren: actually when I do df -h , it shows 4 GB storage. I want it too use all USB space so that I have enough space in it for OpenStack setup.
[19:28] <cowboydren> I don't know anything about openstack. Sounds like the partition was created improperly before the installation.
[19:28] <hackoo> cowboydren: I want to setup this 8 GB USB for openstack installation. Just for learning purpose.
[19:28] <Martin02> udisk2 is dong the mounting, so not sure how to set the umask in this scenario
[19:28] <sote> just my pc wouldn't recognise the usb on start up so had to call it a floppy and change some settings in the bios so it would boot up from usb as a floopy drive
[19:28] <sote> floppy*
[19:30] <hackoo> cowboydren: In installed Precise Pangolin in my 8 GB USB drive though Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.4.exe
[19:30] <zykotick9> Martin02: can i assume this is a NTFS/FAT formatted drive?
[19:30] <sote> that was a fun task, but now I no longer use UE 3.5 or UE 3.4 ... gaane back to base Ubuntu 12.04.1
[19:30] <cowboydren> hackoo: I use Linux Live USB installer.
[19:31] <hackoo> cowboydren: ok
[19:31] <cowboydren> hackoo: I've used it on USB drives up to 16GB.
[19:31] <hackoo> earlier I was using unetbooin
[19:31] <hackoo> ok
[19:31] <Martin02> zykotick: yes, Seagat FreeAgent drive.  I don't believe it is a NTFS issue. the normal user can R/W fine.
[19:31] <cowboydren> hackoo: linuxliveusb.com
[19:32] <hackoo> yeah. just opened this page.
[19:32] <ioria> zykotick9: emacs23-nox ?
[19:33] <zykotick9> ioria: that would make sense.  i don't use emacs myself.
[19:33] <cowboydren> hackoo: but something else I've done is use LiLi to create the installer, then have another USB stick handy, boot from the LiLi stick and then -install-to- (not live mode) the second stick.
[19:33] <jragon> Every time I want to watch a flash video on flash I have to use 'killall pulseaudio' otherwise it goes really quickly.
[19:33] <guideX> so is there any way to increase screen size from 800x600 for virtual box?
[19:33] <ioria> zykotick9: ok, i'll try :-P
[19:33] <hackoo> cowboydren: nice idea
[19:34] <guideX> I do have the tools installed for virtual box, but the max screen size is 800x600
[19:34] <cowboydren> hackoo: it reduces the number of steps to get the system up and running. You don't have to select "Install Ubuntu or Try Ubuntu"
[19:34] <hackoo> cowboydren: but not sure if while installation it make change in your MBR.
[19:35] <cowboydren> hackoo: It's a question you can change during the install process.
[19:35] <hackoo> cowboydren: yes. live install takes ages to boot.
[19:35] <Martin02> zykotick9: yes NTFS or FAT drive (whatever default is for Seagate FreeAgent 1 TB single partition drive)
[19:35] <hackoo> yes
[19:35] <sote> is now watching the video titled "How to Change Screen Resolution in Virtualbox" on Youtube
[19:35] <guideX> ill check that out
[19:36] <cowboydren> hackoo: You actually must handle the disk partitions and boot loader manually; you don't want to create a swap partition on a USB drive, and there's no need for the extended partition the installer tries to create.
[19:36] <hackoo> cowboydren: you do all this on Mac ?
[19:36] <jey> hi, in Unity for some reason my X-Chat instance sometimes doesn't get a hotkey number assigned to it even though it looks like it should be numbered "6" based on its position in the list on the launcher/dock thing
[19:36] <cowboydren> hackoo: No, I don't have a mac.
[19:36] <sote> been telling everyone to ask the same questions they ask in here also on youtube
[19:36] <jey> (I mean the thing where you hold down some meta key (WinKey?) and press a digit to switch to that application)
[19:36] <hackoo> cowboydren: so you also do it on PC.
[19:37] <cowboydren> hackoo: for what it's worth, yes.
[19:37] <hackoo> cowboydren: nothing..
[19:37] <dragonfly> Hey guys. I just screwed up the mysql-server by deleting the root user accidentally
[19:37] <dragonfly> Can anyone help ?
[19:37] <sote> guideX: will I get in trouble for posting a video link here --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBAbcwsKog8
[19:38] <hackoo> cowboydren: without swap is it fine ?
[19:38] <guideX> hmm i'm watching
[19:38] <guideX> and trying...
[19:38] <cowboydren> hackoo: if you have over 2GB, it's absolutely fine. How much RAM does that system have?
[19:39] <hackoo> cowboydren: 4 GB
[19:39] <ioria> zykotick9: yes it is. but it removes emacs23 in visual mode... :-(
[19:39] <cowboydren> Perfect.
[19:39] <hackoo> :-)
[19:39] <zykotick9> ioria: sorry.  i didn't anticipate that...  my bad.
[19:40] <cowboydren> hackoo: my laptop has 8GB of physical ram and it uses an SSD. I have no need for swap. ;)
[19:40] <hackoo> cowboydren: when we do direct install on system HD, we create swap of double size of RAM . In my case 8 GB swap partition.'
[19:40] <ioria> zykotick9: maybe i can install xemacs... i'll see
[19:40] <hackoo> cowboydren: nice.
[19:40] <hackoo> cowboydren: which laptop do you have ?
[19:40] <cowboydren> hackoo: it's junk. :P
[19:41] <koustuvsinha> hello... anybody can help.. having an odd problem with my wifi
[19:41] <Martin02> Anyone have any luck getting "motion" to save its files to a udisk2 mounted USB drive as opposed to /var/temp/motion?
[19:41] <cowboydren> hackoo: AMD V140 processor, crap keyboard, ugly screen. Pretty normal for $350 USD.
[19:42] <hackoo> :-)
[19:42] <cowboydren> I don't even have a dual-core CPU.
[19:42] <hackoo> but you have 8 gigs mem and SSD
[19:42] <sote> ok a question from me> Ubuntu 12.04.1 - what would be the better firewall ? using Graphical user interface for ufw now so do I already have the better firewall ?
[19:43] <hackoo> cowboydren: I used to use it http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[19:43] <cowboydren> hackoo: True. $50 on the RAM, and $100 for the SSD. I actually got the laptop for $300, so I'm still only $450 into it.
[19:43] <hackoo> ok
[19:43] <koustuvsinha> hey pls anybody.. pls help.. here is my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/250680/ubuntu-12-04-dell-inspiron-n4050-very-odd-wifi-problem
[19:44] <cowboydren> hackoo: funny you should mention it, I'm actually replacing this laptop with an old iMac soon. :)
[19:44] <cowboydren> A 17" white iMac, Intel Core2 Duo.
[19:45] <hackoo> cowboydren: I spent $0. Actually my old laptop Dell Inspiron is Dead.. I was chasing Fedora releases on that from 2006 to 2010. Now I have my official laptop so I cant do much on it otherwise I would have deleted its Winblowsl.
[19:45] <koustuvsinha> any1?
[19:46] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: I'm not a kernel expert, but I'd try going backward one release.
[19:46] <cowboydren> Maybe two releases.
[19:47] <koustuvsinha> my problem is: my ubuntu 12.04 cannot connect to my home wifi network... however it can connect to a hotspot of my smartphone... my wifi is however can be connected by windows 7
[19:47] <koustuvsinha> @cowboy however i could do wifi for last 1 ye in this ubuntu 12.04
[19:48] <koustuvsinha> problem started just 2 days back
[19:48] <koustuvsinha> after a software update
[19:48] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: It sounds like a kernel update broke your Broadcom driver.
[19:48] <cowboydren> Try an older kernel.
[19:48] <tomreyn> i have a similar issue, but i'm using a wired connection: for a few days now (roughly 5), network -manager fails to start on boot on this ubuntu 12.10 system.
[19:48] <koustuvsinha> i reinstalled my broadcom driver too but of no use
[19:49] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: When GRUB2 shows up, try selecting an older kernel. If it boots and WiFi connects, you've found the problem.
[19:49] <tomreyn> is this a widespread issue?
[19:49] <hereticsound> Hey guys, I haven't used Ubuntu in a while ever since 12.04 wouldn't install on my pc, is 12.10 any better or should I not even bother?
[19:49] <koustuvsinha> how to select older kernel?
[19:49] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: It's in the list when you boot.
[19:49] <koustuvsinha> grub has two ubuntu options
[19:49] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: Hmm. Only two.
[19:49] <ThinkT510> hereticsound: only one way to find out
[19:49] <dragonfly> hereticsound: Go for 12.04, Its LTS and 12.10 have a lot of problems
[19:50] <cowboydren> koustuvsinha: Mine always has 6 or 8. :)
[19:50] <koustuvsinha> actually i only had 1st time installed 12.04 in this laptop
[19:50] <sote> unplug the Internet cable and plug it back in...  also has a dead modem issue daily but I take it as the usb port dying so I change ports
[19:50] <hereticsound> ThinkT150: true just didn't want to waste my time.
[19:51] <chinglish>  /ns register 密码箱
[19:51] <chinglish>  /ns register 密码 邮箱
[19:51] <koustuvsinha> pls tell me dn how to revert back to old kernel
[19:51] <hereticsound> i may just build a ground up new amd system for use with ubuntu.
[19:51] <Martin02> lombardo: how do I do set umaks with udisk2?
[19:51] <ThinkT510> hereticsound: without knowing what went wrong and what hardware you have its pretty hard to answer whether 12.10 will work better
[19:52] <chinglish>  /ns register tjyiiuan 625539396@qq.com
[19:52] <tomreyn> !nickserv > chinglish
[19:53] <tomreyn> i'm using a wired connection: for a few days now (roughly 5), network-manager fails to start on boot on this ubuntu 12.10 system. is this a known / widespread issue?
[19:54] <sote> Upgrading the Kernel in Ubuntu 12.04 / 12.10 / Mint    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=traegZveTKo
[19:54] <hereticsound> ThinkT150: it's an old stock compaq that i put a new stick of ram and a video card into, I have thought about a system 76 or other pc with 12.10 or 12.04 pre-installed. but i don't know if that would be any better than just building a custom amd machine.
[19:54] <sote> night everyone
[19:54] <ThinkT510> !tab | hereticsound
[19:56] <sote> tab key .. cool
[19:56] <sote> thanks
[19:56] <Martin02> m
[19:59] <sote> tomreyn: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[20:03] <pnkbst> does anyone know when the uefi bootloader will be available?  ubuntu 13.04?
[20:04] <ThinkT510> !uefi | pnkbst
[20:04] <javier_> hola
[20:04] <kunji> pnkbst: I think it's in 12.10
[20:05] <zombie05> hello folks
[20:05] <javier_> hi
[20:05] <pnkbst> kunji: oic
[20:06] <zombie05> anyone down to lend a hand with wireless drivers?
[20:06] <ThinkT510> zombie05: lspci
[20:06] <pnkbst> I misread the news about "uefi rewritten to boot all linux versions" that was outtoday
[20:06] <sote> great, something new to read and learn https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI
[20:07] <sote> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m03RcFkSIA8     How to setup wireless network with Ubuntu
[20:08] <zombie05> BCM43130x4727
[20:09] <zombie05> i already found the driver
[20:09] <zombie05> dropped the firmware where the instructions on linuxwireless say
[20:09] <ThinkT510> !b43 | zombie05
[20:09] <Martin02> lutherp-Studio-XPS-8100 motion: [1] Thread is going to finish due to this fatal error: Permission denied
[20:10] <zombie05> mhmm
[20:10] <zombie05> I think I am rebuilding the kernel wrong missing a bunch of drivers when I do ig..
[20:11] <zombie05> it*
[20:11] <mike160> hi anyone know how to repaired the package catalogue useing the ubuntu terminal
[20:11] <ThinkT510> zombie05: why are you rebuilding the kernel?
[20:11] <zombie05> probably misunderstood the instructions..
[20:11] <ThinkT510> mike160: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:12] <Martin02> [pcname] motion: [1] Can't write picture to file /media/[username]/FreeAgent Drive/motion/01-20130202150858-01.jpg - check access rights to target directory: Permission denied
[20:12] <mike160> ThimkT510 ok thanks
[20:12] <elessar> exit
[20:13] <hackoo> Official ubuntu download pages show 32 bit version of Ubuntu Desktop download is recommended. Whey 64 bit is not recommended ?
[20:13] <zombie05> the driver supposedly is availble in kernals 3.2 and newer so it has instructions on how to turn on the driver via make menuconfig
[20:13] <hackoo> if someone have 64 bit h/w
[20:13] <ThinkT510> hackoo: just for those who don't know if they have a 64bit cpu
[20:15] <kunji> hackoo: It's mainly just so they don't need to bother explaining and people with 32 bit hardware don't screw up and get the 64 one.  But also there are still occasional things where the 32 bit is a bit more compatible.
[20:15] <sote> never tried the 32bit version
[20:16] <pnkbst> kunji: people who need 64-bit can also screw up and get the 32-bit version  :P
[20:17] <guideX> sote: do you know how to undo the command in that video, the vboxmanage command they use? I can't boot into linux at all now
[20:17] <hackoo> ThinkT510: OK. Suppose onw have 64 bit processer with 8 GB RAM and they install 32 bit Ununtu. So isn't there 4 GB RAM is unusable ...
[20:17] <hackoo> kunji: ^^
[20:17] <sote> no it was just a suggestion to look at
[20:17] <guideX> ah ok..
[20:18] <sote> hope you manage to get it working
[20:18] <ThinkT510> hackoo: you can use pae on 32bit to make use of the extra ram but any app won't be able to use above 4gb
[20:18] <mike160> ThinkT510 am geting with sudo apt-get install-f (E: Invalid operation install-f)
[20:18] <guideX> well I can't even get into the live cd now..
[20:18] <sote> teething issues
[20:18] <escott>  /join #c++
[20:18] <guideX> it just says "[ ok ]" in the corner
[20:18] <escott> sorry
[20:18] <ThinkT510> mike160: you missed the gap between install and -f
[20:18] <sote> :( i feel terrible  now
[20:19] <sote> sorry
[20:19] <hackoo> ThinkT510: yes. PAE. but I thought PAE is used when you have less RAM (<4GB) with 64 bit processor and 64 bit OS.
[20:19] <ThinkT510> hackoo: if you know you have 64bit then there is very little reason not to use it
[20:19] <mike160> ThinkT510 oh ok thats why sorry
[20:19] <ThinkT510> hackoo: no, pae is for 32bit
[20:19] <pnkbst> if you're testing php locally, your integer size will be different on 32-bit ubuntu
[20:20] <ThinkT510> !pae | hackoo
[20:20] <hackoo> ok
[20:21] <kostkon> ThinkT510, ubuntu comes with pae kernel by default now
[20:21] <sote> maybe go back to default settings and try again
[20:21] <kunji> Oh a new kernel... I'm a bit cautious about them now... as not all that long ago a new kernel broke my wireless in a bad way -_-, well hopefully this goes well.
[20:21] <ThinkT510> kostkon: i know
[20:22] <kostkon> :P
[20:22] <guideX> hmm trying to run more of those vboxmanage commands
[20:24] <tiededaniel__> yo
[20:24] <guideX> hi :(
[20:24] <sote> watching it again
[20:25] <guideX> sote i got it working again
[20:25] <sote> phew I can sleep now
[20:25] <guideX> I guess I put the wrong screen res the first time
[20:26] <guideX> it's not ur fault, i've been wrestling this thing for days
[20:26] <guideX> it's the large sumo wrestler, and I'm the lowely stick figure lol
[20:27] <sote> what would be the issue milkshake_ is having
[20:28] <sote> yeah I should watch the film with the wolves .. goodnight all
[20:28] <zombie05> I feel like i am over thinking this..
[20:28] <sote> sleep on it
[20:29] <zombie05> i have
[20:29] <zombie05> i have been at it for days i wouldnt come to irc otherwise
[20:29] <zombie05> :P
[20:29] <guideX> same
[20:29] <zombie05> i tend to troll so avoid opening myself  up for it lol :P
[20:29] <denny> hi... I'm running Gnome Classic on 12.10, alt + right click doesn't seem to be giving me the move (or anything else) options for panel icons, taskbar, etc - has that behaviour changed again?
[20:30] <guideX> wow it's exactly my screen res now, cool
[20:30] <guideX> I can see most everything
[20:30] <zombie05> ah that feeling of it finally works is amazing
[20:30] <sote> glad youtube had the video guideX
[20:30] <guideX> and I can scroll after disabling the non existing new scrollbar everyone says I should have heh
[20:31] <guideX> it was mainly the vboxmanage command which helped, unfortunetly I destroyed my ubuntu install, but not a problem, I made a backup :)
[20:31] <sote> have no idea man... google search found it
[20:32] <Martin02> anyone know how to set the default umask for new USB drives in udisk2?
[20:32] <guideX> the install of the tools blew it up the first time, because I already have the tools i guess?
[20:32] <Tex_Nick> denny : try SUPER+ALT Right Click
[20:32] <denny> Tex_Nick: is that the windows key?
[20:32] <Tex_Nick> denny : yes ... Super is windows key
[20:32] <sote> yes with the flag
[20:33] <LiquidDemocracy> I just got my new smart TV. In the manual it says that I can watch movies streamed from my PC. All I needed was a media server. Is there any program that I can use under Kubuntu?
[20:33] <zombie05> xbmc is dope
[20:34] <denny> Tex_Nick: that did it - thanks
[20:34] <sote> I don't have the ram to run xbmc smoothly
[20:34] <denny> if I have to hold down any more keys I might as well start using emacs
[20:34] <tomreyn> thanks sote, this is nothing new, though, and my issue looks more udev related
[20:34] <zombie05> upgrade?
[20:34] <denny> still, anything is better than using unity or gnome-shell  ;)
[20:34] <Tex_Nick> denny : you're welcome :-)
[20:34] <sote> cheers
[20:35] <rckrd> Hey guys.  I have transmission running on my ubuntu server.  But i'd like to use my desktop client (OS X) to monitor my torrents rather than the web interface.  Any ideas?
[20:36] <sote> qnap uses it's own torrent program
[20:36] <hackoo> I am downloading 64 bit Ubuntu iso and it's name have 'amd' in it (ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso) . I have Intel machine, so is this image is supported for Intel processors ?
[20:36] <zombie05> yes
[20:37] <zombie05> thats just the name for the 64bit arch
[20:37] <hackoo> why it have amd64 instead of x64 for intel.
[20:39] <zombie05> Prior to launch, "x86-64" and "x86_64" were used to refer to the instruction set. Upon release, AMD named it AMD64.[3] Intel initially used the names IA-32e and EM64T before finally settling on Intel 64 for their implementation. Some in the industry, including Apple,[4][5][6] use x86-64 and x86_64, while others, notably Sun Microsystems[7] (now Oracle Corporation) andMicrosoft,[8] use x64 while the BSD family of OSs and the Debian[9] Linu
[20:39] <zombie05> wiki bro ^_^
[20:41] <zombie05> ThinkT510: still around?
[20:41] <genial> Hello! Allthough this isnt a direct ubuntu-question, i thought Id give it a shot: I added a 301 Permanent Redirect on my webserver (which is connected to the same router as I am) yesterday, and found out it wasn't working - removed it, restarted apache again, cleared browser cache, etc. Still I got hit with a timeout, which I guess originated from the 301 loop I created earlier. Now this is
[20:41] <genial> the situation: http://imagepastebin.appspot.com/d/ag9zfmltYWdlcGFzdGViaW5yFAsSDFVwbG9hZGVkRmlsZRjR8QkM - It's only when I try to do a loopback through the router that it fails. And ONLY on port 80+443. Swapping the router with another one resolves the issue aswell. Anyone have any insight or thoughts? Thank you!
[20:41] <hackoo> zombie05: nice info. Thanks bro.
[20:42] <zombie05> p
[20:42] <zombie05> np*\
[20:43] <hackoo> genial: Install Ubuntu in it.
[20:43] <hackoo> :D
[20:43] <genial> Well my webserver is running Ubuntu Server, so I guess it's not totally unrelated :)
[20:44] <genial> But I'm guessing this is more of a networking-issue
[20:44] <zombie05> ah i messed with ubuntu server and ended up going centos
[20:44] <hackoo> genial: ##networking
[20:44] <Tex_Nick> genial : if you don't get some help here, you might try ... #httpd or #ubuntu-server
[20:44] <zombie05> ubuntu i was fighting with while the centos box just worked. I have one running at my company running server and a db
[20:45] <hackoo> I love backtrack because it's based on Ubuntu.
[20:46] <zombie05> is that the only reason hacko?
[20:46] <hackoo> so BT5R3 is based on 12.04 LTS, it means BT5R3 will also get 5 years updates
[20:47] <hackoo> zombie05: not actully... but it's a important reason. :P
[20:47] <denny> genial: browsers cache redirects aggressively.  Kill your browser, make sure it's really dead, then start it again.  That generally fixes it for me.
[20:47] <hackoo> an*
[20:48] <zombie05> lol just checkin.. that metapolit ninja is just too sweet
[20:48] <denny> although that doesn't explain the router bit
[20:48]  * denny goes back to sleep
[20:48] <genial> denny: yeah been using Firefox which allows purging of cache, but still nothing. Even on the laptop i can go from the broken network over to 3G, hit refresh and suddenly it works.
[20:48] <denny> purging the cache won't clear a redirect
[20:48] <denny> don't ask me why, but they hang onto those like crazy
[20:48] <kieppie1> running 12.10 & seeing this @ boot: "Starting NetBIOS name server                                          [fail]"
[20:49] <MarKsaitis> how do I launch configuration wizzards again for the packages I just installed?
[20:49] <reiligha> How come 12.04  is getting five years of support as apposed to three?
[20:49] <denny> something in the browser network layer, I guess
[20:49]  * hackoo going to install ubuntu in my 8 GB USB though live USB.
[20:50] <invariant> How do I install version 13.1 of fglrx on 12.04 via any method that works and has been tested by whoever answers the question? I am not interested in hearing things which you think work.
[20:50] <invariant> reiligha, because someone with money said so.
[20:50] <genial> denny: but are they cached per vhost, or per vhost AND local network (if that makes any sense). Since i can basically swap network connection on my workstation (have 2 active network outlets to same ISP) and voila!
[20:50] <kieppie1> invariant: what graphics card you using?
[20:51] <invariant> kieppie1, a HD5xxx series.
[20:51] <reiligha> invariant Is that the real reason or what you assume? :)
[20:51] <invariant> kieppie1, I already established that I need the driver.
[20:51] <kieppie1> yea - the drivers are a PoS
[20:51] <invariant> kieppie1, all I want now is to install it.
[20:51] <kieppie1> I've hat the same issue on my system
[20:51] <invariant> kieppie1, which issue?
[20:51] <kieppie1> there's a backported/reverse-engeneered driver
[20:51] <denny> genial: can you try on the broken network route, but with a browser that hasnt' been used to look at the site yet?
[20:52] <kieppie1> invariant: 1 mo'
[20:52] <Guest67836> why virtualbox rejects modules building for dkms?
[20:52] <Guest67836> with linux-image-generic
[20:52] <invariant> kieppie1, I do not want a reverse-engineered driver and a backported driver is the one from xorg-edgers.
[20:53] <invariant> kieppie1, xorg-edgers simply seems to lag behind, or have a different versioning scheme (real smart move... NOT).
[20:53] <kieppie1> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/makson96/fglrx/ubuntu quantal main
[20:53] <kieppie1> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/makson96/fglrx/ubuntu quantal main
[20:53] <genial> denny: yeah did that a few hours ago (~20 hours after I reverted and restarted apache) - no luck unfortunately
[20:53] <invariant> kieppie1, I am sorry, but you didn't read my question.
[20:53] <kieppie1> invariant: ^^ this is the only one I could get working on my system
[20:53] <denny> genial: weird stuff  :)
[20:53] <invariant> kieppie1, you are referring to quantal, while I said 12.04.
[20:54] <invariant> kieppie1, but perhaps he also builds them for precise.
[20:54] <genial> denny: absolutely! starting to think my ISP is caching something, but when I swapped routers, it suddenly worked. could it be that my ISP is caching PER MAC-address? A bit far fetched maybe.
[20:54] <invariant> kieppie1, still, quite bad that more than two weeks after release, there is no official package.
[20:55] <kieppie1> invariant: prior to 12.10 I user the binary installer from the vendor. CLI gui installer failed, so had to generate the .deb from CLI & install manually
[20:55] <invariant> kieppie1, what? Are you saying that the generate deb step has ever worked for someone?
[20:55] <invariant> kieppie1, how?
[20:55] <kieppie1> yip
[20:55] <invariant> kieppie1, it has never worked for me.
[20:56] <OerHeks> fglrx 13.1 uses xorg 1.13 > http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2013/01/how-to-install-new-amd-catalyst-131.html and precise shipts with 1.12
[20:56] <kieppie1> can't recall now, but download installer, chmod +x, & ./$WHATEVER --help for options
[20:56] <Guest67836> how to install/build vbox-dkms for current kernel?
[20:56] <invariant> OerHeks, I don't mind upgrading x, but I cannot use a broken system.
[20:57] <kieppie1> anyhow
[20:57] <kieppie1>  running 12.10 & seeing this @ boot: "Starting NetBIOS name server                                          [fail]"
[20:57] <invariant> OerHeks, currently, precise (which is supposed to be a production distro(!)) does not work.
[20:57] <kieppie1> <-- google fails
[20:57] <Physicist> I cannot change my password from the grub - init=/bin/bash. Who have a sugestion?
[20:58] <invariant> OerHeks, the guy from your link has an inconsistent story.
[20:58] <Physicist> !password
[20:58] <invariant> OerHeks, where can I get some correct information?
[20:58] <OerHeks> invariant correct, he talks about downgrading, that is a mistake
[20:59] <OerHeks> and that same ppa only has 12.10 content
[20:59] <kieppie1> !netbios
[20:59] <doctorly> Is it possible to download a file in irssi?
[21:00] <LiquidDemocracy> I am trying to access a ushare directory in Ubuntu from my Smart tv but the smart tv says no playable media in this folder. any idea?
[21:00] <invariant> OerHeks, the least stable system component is created by AMD. This is common knowledge. Why do Ubuntu driver releases still lag then?
[21:01] <invariant> OerHeks, new upgrades are almost always better in the case of AMD.
[21:01] <OerHeks> I switched to nvidia
[21:03] <Tex_Nick> doctorly:  irssi has a support ... #irssi
[21:04] <krabador> hi people, i need to test the video ram, how can i do it, with something like memtest86?
[21:05] <kieppie1> anyone able to assist me with the following issue, please? I'm running 12.10 & seeing this @ boot: "Starting NetBIOS name server                                          [fail]"
[21:06] <fellayaboy> can soemone help me ...this is kinda unrelated to ubuntu but theres a website called github and they have folder that im trying to download...how can i download the folder
[21:06] <krabador> kieppie1, what it causes'
[21:06] <krabador> ?
[21:07] <krabador> fellayaboy, you must install git
[21:07] <kieppie1> hi krabador: I'm seeing the error @ startup & want to get it to all-clear
[21:08] <fellayaboy> i did install git but now how do i get the folder
[21:08] <fellayaboy> i tried git https://github.com/simonsimons34/htc_utility_linux but nothing happened
[21:08] <genial> git clone user@url
[21:08] <fellayaboy> whos user..mine or his
[21:09] <genial> yours i'm guessing, never used github
[21:09] <kieppie1> krabador: config the daemon to start properly, or remove it if not nessiasary
[21:09] <denny> fellayaboy: github gives you the URLs
[21:09] <krabador> kieppie1, that's a no problem in fact
[21:09] <denny> fellayaboy: the one you want is 'git read-only' - so: git clone git://github.com/simonsimons34/htc_utility_linux.git
[21:10] <kieppie1> krabador: could you provide some  insight please?
[21:10] <krabador> kieppie1, netbios it's an old protocol session-like for network
[21:10] <serodronin> So I'm interested in giving ubuntu a go; I'm wondering is there an easy way to get a win7/ubuntu dualboot with leaving my windows drives untouched?
[21:10] <fellayaboy> aw man thank u then
[21:10] <krabador> kieppie1, some software can use it, then it would be better to leave it
[21:10] <kieppie1> krabador: is it nessiasary? is there some way to remove or disable it?
[21:11] <invariant> serodronin, VM or new harddisk or some partitioning knowledge.
[21:11] <mikehaas763> When did Ubuntu start using ext4 FS as the default?
[21:11] <serodronin> yeah I have a new harddisk
[21:11] <kieppie1> I'm running a POSIX network, with XBMC beeing the only host that might ever even remotely use it (& maybe android)
[21:11] <krabador> kieppie1, you can leave it from the boot script, but something in the future cannot work
[21:11] <mikehaas763> Nvm, I changed up my search keywords and found the answer
[21:12] <kieppie1> krabador: that's fine. where can I disable it? I'll reenable if anything needs it
[21:12] <invariant> What does this mean fglrx 12.10.5 [Jan 28 2013] ?  (dmesg output) In particular is this some twisted way of Ubuntu to output that it's really running 13.1?
[21:12] <brillopad> Anyone seen this issue before - Google is no help! Ubuntu installer can't see my 700GB Windows 7 partition. Wiped the PC, reinstalled Windows 7 and tried again - nothing! So Ubuntu wants to use the entirety of my 1TB hard disk. This happens in both EFI and non-EFI boots. Any ideas?
[21:13] <krabador> kieppie1, wait a moment
[21:15] <MartynKeigher> \cls
[21:15] <Walex> brillopad: that's extremely unlikely. Also note that probably the best sequence is install first Ubuntu and after that install MS-Windows
[21:16] <Walex> brillopad: do you happen to have *two* 1TB disks?
[21:16] <krabador> kieppie1, it's in build with samba
[21:16] <ThinkT510> Walex: other way around, windows first then ubuntu
[21:16] <zombie05> ^
[21:17] <krabador> kieppie1, it's really not recommended to uninstall it
[21:17] <zombie05> whenever i try to do something it errors out with the wrong headers where would i change that to reflect the correct one
[21:17] <Walex> brillopad: you know BTW that the installer also has virtual consoles with shells in it, so you can look around, and even partition manually
[21:17] <kieppie1> cheers
[21:17] <brillopad> Walex: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/09/21/tips-for-dual-booting-windows-and-linux/
[21:17] <brillopad> Walex: I know - but gparted and the Ubuntu installer can't see the partition.
[21:18] <brillopad> Neither can df or fdisk
[21:18] <zombie05> i ended up making a bunch of broken kernels i need to go into advanced and select the 3.5 one before i started the tinkering
[21:18] <zombie05> @boot.
[21:19] <Walex> brillopad: which version of MS-Windows?
[21:19] <brillopad> Win 7
[21:19] <kieppie1> thanks krabador: I don't like seeing errors @ by boot, but I'll guess I'll have to live with it.... :/
[21:20] <Walex> brillopad: maybe you are installing with GPT partitioning, but GNU/Linux support it. and even with GPT there should be a "fake" MBR style partition.
[21:20] <Walex> brillopad: do the partitioning tools see *any* partition?
[21:20] <brillopad> Walex: gparted warns me about this but I'm not using GPT. I'm using MBR style partitioning.
[21:20] <serodronin> so if I wanted to a dualboot with dual hard drives the safest way would be to unplug all current drives and than plug in new drive and install?
[21:20] <brillopad> Before installing Win 7 (using MBR) I wiped the disk completely clean
[21:21] <brillopad> Walex: None at all. Shows unallocated 931.51 GiB
[21:22] <kieppie1> bb 4 now
[21:22] <Walex> well, then use 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/... | od -x' to see if there is any non-zero data in the MBR.
[21:22] <brillopad> Walex: Interestingly enough, fdisk /dev/sda can now see the partition but gparted and the installer can't
[21:22] <brillopad> How bizarre
[21:23] <maxpolk> /dev/sda is a device, not a partition
[21:23] <Walex> brillopad: try also 'cfdisk' and 'sfdisk -d' for example
[21:24] <brillopad> cfdisk gives "Warning!! Unsupported GPT detected. Use GNU Parted'
[21:24] <IveBeenBit> Is there a terminal command I can use to search a directory recursively and return the path/filename of any file 3GB or larger? I tried ls -hRS but it still breaks it into subdirectories.
[21:24] <Walex> brillopad: ahhhhhhhh
[21:25] <jrib> IveBeenBit: find can do that
[21:25] <Walex> brillopad: maybe the partitioning is GPT after all.
[21:25] <brillopad> Walex: So confused! It's definitely MBR! :-/
[21:25] <Walex> brillopad: the tool 'disktype' can figure out many details. Also try with 'gdisk' to see if it is really GPT.
[21:26] <IveBeenBit> jrib, Thanks. I'll look through the man pages and try to figure it out
[21:26] <Walex> brillopad: one remote possibility is that your wipe left random data in sector 0, and this is confusing the partitioning programs.
[21:26] <brillopad> Walex: How can I fix sector 0 if that is the issue?
[21:26] <Walex> brillopad: as a rule, before partitioning it is a good idea to write 0s over the first 64KiB of the disk
[21:27] <brillopad> Walex: Gotcha. Anything I can do now without killing the data that's already on there?
[21:27] <brillopad> Walex: disktype shows /dev/sda as a 'DOS/MBR partition map'
[21:28] <brillopad> Walex: But at the bottom has an entry for a GPT partition map with 128 entries!
[21:28] <Walex> brillopad: well, if that's the issue, it is a bit painful, but very doable. You can save a copy of sector 0 for backup, make note of the existing partition start/end in sectors, zero just sector 0
[21:28] <Walex> brillopad: then probably it is GPT. Because when GPT is used, it is "wrapped" in an MBR partition for backwards compatibility.
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[21:29] <brillopad> Walex: Gotcha.
[21:30] <Walex> brillopad: GPT is so much better than MBR anyhow. Nice alignment, etc.
[21:30] <brillopad> Walex: Which is fine, but won't allow me to install Ubuntu next to Win 7 at the mo
[21:30] <brillopad> Walex: Whether it's GPT or MBR, I'm fine as long as I can dual boot. Looking at gdisk now to see if that can help me. Any thoughts on that?
[21:31] <jrib> IveBeenBit: you want to look at the -size flag
[21:31] <Walex> brillopad: that shouldn't be a problem, 'gdisk' should be fine. Surprised that 'gparted' does not work though.
[21:31] <brillopad> Walex: Weirdest issue I've ever had with Ubuntu (or Linux in general for that matter)!
[21:32] <IveBeenBit> jrib, maxpolk thanks, guys. I know there's a probably an easier way to do this, but I like to learn more about terminal commands. This helps
[21:32] <maxpolk> brillopad I found that if you use Windows itself to boot Linux it's a lot less messy.  You install not to the device root partition but to the /boot partition.  Then use Windows Neosmart EasyBCD to point to Linux and choose it when Windows first starts.
[21:32] <brillopad> Walex: gdisk reports no partitions in GPT
[21:33] <Walex> brillopad: very strange indeed.
[21:33] <brillopad> Walex: How can I kill the GPT side of things?
[21:34] <brillopad> Walex: gdisk can see the MBR partitions, btw
[21:34] <Walex> brillopad: if it is a real GPT situation bad news. Otherwise it could be just that you did not preventively zero out sector 0 and various tools read random data from it.
[21:34] <Walex> brillopad: if it is a real GPT situation bad news. Otherwise it could be just that you did not preventively zero out sector 0 and various tools read random data from some fields that should have been zero.
[21:35] <brillopad> Walex: Going to note down the start/end info for the partitions now and will try the zeroing fix
[21:35] <unstable> In skype, how can I use my  microsoft lifecam microphone, instead of my built in Lenovo laptop microphone? Inside skype options at 'sound devices', the only options for 'Microphone' are 'PulseAudio server (local)'. this goes to the lenovo laptop microphone by default, which is not as good quality as the  lifecam one.
[21:36] <brillopad> Walex: Do I use fdisk to reinstate the partitions? And will it kill the data on the disk after they've been added back in?
[21:36] <Walex> brillopad: try 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/... | od -x -Ad' and put it on paste.ubuntu.com so we can have a look
[21:36] <brillopad> Walex: Will do!
[21:37] <brillopad> Walex: The first few bytes are 00 if that's any help - uploading now
[21:37] <Walex> brillopad: you can use 'fdisk' to recreate. The MBR has just a table, editing it does not change anything on the reset of the disk.
[21:37] <Gerowen> Has anybody else had Chrome stop recognizing Flash in the past day or two?
[21:37] <brillopad> Walex: paste.ubuntu.com/1602759/
[21:38] <brillopad> Walex: Ignore my comment about the first few bytes being 0 - I'm an idiot!
[21:38] <WindowsGudLinuxN> chrome takes up lot of ram. gone back to ffox
[21:38] <brillopad> Walex: Think that's the offset!!
[21:38] <serodronin> does it matter which sda you instill ubuntu to? like would sda6 boot the same as sda1/2?
[21:38] <Walex> brillopad: http://www.petri.co.il/gpt-vs-mbr-based-disks.htm
[21:38] <Walex> and many others
[21:38] <ThinkT510> serodronin: it will boot fine
[21:39] <WindowsGudLinuxN> chrome runs as crappy on windows as it does on linux
[21:39] <subdesign> recommended folder to store own bash files:?
[21:39] <brillopad> Walex: Faster to convert my Win 7 install to GPT or fix the MBR install?
[21:39] <serodronin> ThinkT510: Ok sorry I'm kinda newb; so if I plug in brand new harddrive and partition according to guide I will have two bootable drives succesfully?
[21:39] <Walex> brillopad: who knows, it takes a bit of time to look at sector 0 contents
[21:40] <ThinkT510> serodronin: i don't see why not
[21:40] <Walex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record has "Structure of a modern standard MBR!
[21:40] <serodronin> last question is there an easy way to choose which drive to boot from?
[21:40] <serodronin> like some GUI that lets me choose a drive at startup
[21:40] <serodronin> or only bios?
[21:40] <unstable> Is there a way to set the default microphone in Sound settings on ubuntu?
[21:40] <ThinkT510> serodronin: thats done by the bios
[21:40] <maxpolk> serodronin, that's what grub does for you
[21:41] <serodronin> but grub would only be on my secondary linux drive so I would set that to main startupdisk than it would let me choose?
[21:41] <maxpolk> Grub can be made to list your choices and boot from various drives I think, right?
[21:42] <invariant> serodronin, the BIOS selects the right (or wrong) 512 bytes to use
[21:42] <invariant> serodronin, grub needs to be installed on that drive.
[21:42] <invariant> serodronin, then grub could boot from any other partition.
[21:43] <ThinkT510> serodronin: grub will be installed to the mbr of whatever disk you put ubuntu on, if you set the bios to boot that disk then grub will pick up all other oses on all disks connected and allow you to choose what to boot into
[21:43] <serodronin> ok
[21:43] <serodronin> thanks
[21:43] <serodronin> so it should be easy
[21:43] <maxpolk> define easy ;-)
[21:43] <Walex> brillopad: I think I'll convert your MBR to binary so I can use the typical tools to look at it. Decoding by hand too long.
[21:43] <danny> any commentn ne os colorwheel so far it seems stable
[21:43] <WindowsIsGreat> hi
[21:44] <danny> hi
[21:44] <serodronin> maxpolk: as in a similar set up to bootcamp booting on mac
[21:44] <maxpolk> serodronin I believe so, yes
[21:45] <danny> very good terminal program
[21:46] <CraftyBanardo> Hi Guys, This should be an easy one for someone that knows. Machine A has a share called "TV" what should the line in fstab be on machine B to mount it as the user luke on machine A.
[21:47] <ThinkT510> !fstab | CraftyBanardo
[21:47] <Gycklarn-> "updatedb" seems to be stuck. Any ideas?
[21:47] <CraftyBanardo> :) I've been battling this for about 3 weeks. I've read the guide on FSTAB and the one on Samba
[21:48] <abdostar> hello, I have a wierd problem, everytime I start my laptop or wakeup, all I see is a black screen, I Know the OS it's working cause I hear the notification sound, but screen looks very dim
[21:49] <CraftyBanardo> Just looked through that guide ThinkT510 it doesn't tell me how to specify a username/password to use for the mounted share.
[21:50] <ThinkT510> CraftyBanardo: i've never used samba sorry
[21:50] <unstable> I am on Ubuntu with the latest version. When I go to the 'sound settings', which I think is my desktop mixer.. I can see under 'input', 1. (Microphone, Built-in Audio), 2. (Internal Microphone, Built-in Audio), 3. (Microphone, Lifecam Studio). Though there is no way to 'pick' the Lifecam one with this gui. How can I set my default microphone to Lifecam?
[21:50] <steven> does anyone know why chrome won't play flash since today? well i know how to turn it back on, just wondering why it stopped playing at the first place?
[21:51] <ThinkT510> steven: ask the chrome guys
[21:51] <Gycklarn-> CraftyBanardo, username=[namehere],password=[passwordhere]
[21:51] <CraftyBanardo> Thanks Gycklarn- I will try that now.
[21:54] <Ronalds_M> good night
[21:54] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows how to make gbrainy use native language?
[21:57] <Gycklarn-> CraftyBanardo, Any luck?
[21:57] <CraftyBanardo> just did a sudo mount -a
[21:57] <Damo> hello what does it mean when i try to connect to my server and i get this:?  Host key verification failed.
[21:57] <CraftyBanardo> and it seems to have worked.
[21:57] <CraftyBanardo> i think
[21:57] <Gycklarn-> Sweet
[21:57] <CraftyBanardo> I'm going to try writing a file to it now, You could of saved me Gycklarn-
[21:58] <CraftyBanardo> I've been battling samba for a while, I was missing a utils package for about a week.
[21:58] <Gycklarn-> haha yeah, that can be a bitch.
[21:58] <CraftyBanardo> Basically I've got one machine that downloads/extracts and then sickbeard/couchpotato move the files to a media PC in the front room
[21:58] <CraftyBanardo> and its giving this machine write permissions is a problem!
[22:00] <CraftyBanardo> I'll try an episode of breaking bad and let you know Gycklarn- , Thanks for the help so far.
[22:01] <Gycklarn-> o/
[22:01] <WindowsIsGreat> microsoft owns shuttleworth's ass
[22:01] <l057c0d3r> yes yes yes.. i finally got netflix to work for me on linux :-)  about time.....
[22:02] <WindowsIsGreat> ubuntu is gay
[22:02] <l057c0d3r> no unity is..
[22:02] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu rocks
[22:02] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: don't feed them
[22:02] <WindowsIsGreat> linux is for faggots
[22:02] <l057c0d3r> WindowsIsGreat, you obviously have not seen a ubuntu / gnome / cairo-dock setup.  with wine..
[22:02]  * l057c0d3r sits back and watches netflix on linux  :-) it works
[22:03]  * l057c0d3r pops on skyrim for a min.... it works on linux too...
[22:03] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  lets see.. why do i need window's..  :-p sorry i'll stop feeding
[22:04] <l057c0d3r> but i am stoked that i got netflix to actually run great on here now.. the ppa was not working right for me at first... i was about to give up after getting  the same white screen with links 4 times... but i decided to click on a movie.. it said that after the install finished to restart my browser
[22:04] <zombie05> when you run update-initramfs what tells it where to look for the modules
[22:05] <l057c0d3r> but there was no download.... and then just out of dumb luck i right clicked.. and actidently hit reload on the menu.. and everything just started working..
[22:05] <zombie05> i am getting a could not load but its targeting the wrong ubuntu headers
[22:05] <guideX> how is that even possible ?doesn't netflix run on silverlight video?
[22:05] <l057c0d3r> guideX, yes.. yes it does
[22:06] <l057c0d3r> but with a modified version of wine....  mono...  gecko..  and firefox....  it works
[22:06] <kostkon> !netflix | guideX
[22:06] <Damo> Host key verification failed. what is needed for me to connect to my server?
[22:07] <guideX> my wii does nothing but play netflix :P
[22:07] <l057c0d3r> dude is a genius over here https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iheartubuntu.com%2F2012%2F11%2Fppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html&ei=I44NUcnRIe7xyAG0roGQBg&usg=AFQjCNHl1XwyexEfkDjp202PFepf4Lpo5g&bvm=bv.41867550,d.aWc
[22:08] <l057c0d3r> bah..  thats a long link.. probably wrong one
[22:08] <serodronin> so should I even bother setting up a drive for ubuntu on windows IE putting ona MBR/GPT?
[22:08] <serodronin> or should I let ubuntu install manager do that
[22:08] <serodronin> as of now its a factory fresh drive
[22:08] <l057c0d3r> serodroni.. i use the wubi installer.. and install it like any other program from windows
[22:08] <l057c0d3r> with the use of simlinks....
[22:09] <guideX> ubuntu installs fairly seemlessly "into" windows
[22:09] <guideX> windows treats it like a program that can be uninstalled
[22:09] <guideX> pretty neat :)
[22:09] <serodronin> thats VM though?
[22:09] <l057c0d3r> you can share folders between windows and linux.. making it where you have one set of music / pictuers / videos shared between both systems
[22:09] <guideX> nope
[22:09] <guideX> so when you first turn on your pc, it asks you, widnows or linux
[22:09] <ThinkT510> wubi is not a long term solution, more of a test drive really before installing ubuntu properly
[22:10] <l057c0d3r> ThinkT510, yeah...  well i've been using the same wubi install for a very long time now and it runs fast.. and works just fine
[22:10] <guideX> hmm.. I've had ubuntu installed like that for a long time, is it not a recommended practice?
[22:11] <l057c0d3r> simlinks to the host folder help remove the drive space limitation of 30gb
[22:11] <l057c0d3r> gain full access to the tb that way....
[22:11] <tinashaw76> hello all, I was hoping someone could help me with an nvidia driver issue.  I've been working on this most of the day with no luck.  I'm running a fresh install of 12.04.1 and have a GTX 670 gpu.  I've installed the 310 nvidia drivers with jockey, but my gpu isn't being recognized / used.  Any suggestions about how to resolve this issue?
[22:14] <l057c0d3r> heh well i'm going back to netflix now :-)  this has been a great day for me...  you all take it easy...
[22:14] <drumroll> Hi, I just installed 12.10 onto a HDD with Windows 8, selected "Install alongside Windows", went through installation and rebooted - but it boots straight into Windows still. I tried using a program called EasyBCD to add an entry to the windows bootloader that points to the linux boot partition, but I just get a prompt that says "Grub> " and I don't know what to do
[22:14] <tinashaw76> is there a windows entry in the grub menu?
[22:16] <invariant> Is it normal that I have /usr/lib{32,64,} (the extra comma is there on purpose)?
[22:16] <invariant> I am getting messages like dpkg-shlibdeps:error:couldn't find library libc.so.6 needed by debian/fglrx/usr/lib/fglrx/bin/fglrxinfo from the amd installer.
[22:17] <drumroll> tinashaw76: there is no grub menu
[22:17] <drumroll> tinashaw76: it's like grub didn't even install.
[22:18] <Billybeagle> anyone got some time help me set up Vhosts? I just went though a tutorial and it didnt work. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[22:20] <dennot> When I press "e" on the grub menu, it lets me edit the settings for the next boot.  How do I change those settings permanently?
[22:22] <tinashaw76> dennot:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1548780
[22:22] <tinashaw76> drumroll:  when i was dual-booting, I was running windows / linux, but I installed windows first then linux
[22:23] <tinashaw76> I always booted into a grub menu
[22:23] <tinashaw76> the default was to boot into linux
[22:23] <dennot> thanks tinashaw76
[22:23] <tinashaw76> and i had to scroll down to get to the windows entry
[22:23] <zombie05> updating the kernel to 3.6.9 added the driver correctly
[22:23] <tinashaw76> but it sounds like that's not the issue with yours
[22:23] <zombie05> and fixed header issues
[22:23] <tinashaw76> np denno
[22:23] <tinashaw76> t
[22:24] <drumroll> tinashaw76: I installed windows first, then linux, just like you said. And I've done it before too with no problems. But I've never done it over Windows 8
[22:24] <tinashaw76> neither have i, only win 7
[22:25] <tinashaw76> anyone know of a channel to get some GPU / Ubuntu advice in regards to nvidia?
[22:25] <auronandace> !uefi | drumroll
[22:26] <tinashaw76> hmmm
[22:26] <tinashaw76> !nvidia | tinashaw76
[22:26] <tinashaw76> lol, nice
[22:30] <seer> hello
[22:31] <seer> hello?
[22:31] <CraftyBanardo> Hello!
[22:31] <seer> yes
[22:31] <seer> good
[22:31] <seer> hi
[22:31] <seer> i am a new ubuntu user
[22:32] <seer> so new i havent even downloaded it yet
[22:32] <nervo46> Welcome to Ubuntu!
[22:32] <seer> anybody wii\lling to give me a crash course on it?
[22:32] <py_can> If I have a .tar file, I can add files to them like this "tar -rf <tarname> <file_to_insert>"... Can I also specify where in the tar file the file i inserted will end up (hierarchy) ? Because If I add a file from /home/bla that hierarchy will be in my tar file too :) Couldnt find anything in my man pages
[22:34] <nervo46> It is way to large a thing to give a crash course on over IRC... I would recommend you just install it and start hacking away.  There are dozens of tuts online as well.
[22:35] <tinashaw76> maybe I'm missing something, I've read through the ubuntu nvidia install help, but when I install the latest nvidia drivers, and modprobe nvidia_experimental_310, it still says that the driver is not in use... ?  anyone have any experience with this?
[22:36] <tinashaw76> py_can:  can you cd into the directory where the file you want to add resides, then give an absolute path to the tar?
[22:36] <seer_> huh?
[22:37] <py_can> tinashaw76: oh yeah, that would probably work :-) But, I'm sure there is a command-line argument for it. I will search further.
[22:37] <Gumby> hi all.  does anyone know how to start "startup disk creator" from the command line?
[22:37] <nervo46> tinashaw76: Maybe try and run /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[22:38] <whjms> Gumby: usb-creator ?
[22:38] <David-A> seer_: yes, download, install. then it is ready to use. then the next 2 things to do for better experience is install package ubuntu-restricted-extras, and check "additional hardware drivers" in system settings.
[22:38] <Gumby> gah, nevermind
[22:38] <Gumby> "startup-disk-creator"
[22:38] <nervo46> tinashaw76: That should setup X to see it, then prob. a reboot.
[22:38] <whjms> d'oh
[22:38] <Gumby> oh wait, nevermind.. that was a Q on a forum, not an answer
[22:38] <cop> hallo?
[22:39] <Gumby> usb-creator-gtk
[22:39] <seer_> aye david-a
[22:39] <designbybeck_> A way to view RAW/CR2 files as thumbnails in Natalis? Ubuntu 12.10?
[22:39] <Gumby> whjms: technically you're correct too
[22:39] <tinashaw76> nervo46:  i've actually tried this already as well, it generates an xorg.conf file but when i reboot, it comes back to an atrocious resolution
[22:39] <platius> seer_> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal   nice info herer
[22:39] <Gumby> :)
[22:39] <cop> can anyone help me regarding a resolution problem?
[22:40] <seer_> i wanna know about the postive and negatives and if i should leave windows forever?
[22:40] <whjms> cop: just ask away
[22:40] <tinashaw76> nervo46:  and i can't edit anything from the nvidia settings, it just tells me the same thing you just suggested
[22:40] <tinashaw76> cop:  maybe, whats the issue
[22:40] <cop> it is very complicated so i will start writing then  hold on :p
[22:40] <David-A> seer_: try it first, e.g. with dual boot. then decide if to leave windows.
[22:41] <nothingspecial> seer_: you might want to try the forums for a bunch of opinions
[22:41] <nervo46> tinashaw: Sorry to hear. I actually built a box and installed the Nvidia drivers today... but just grabbed the current version through Ubuntu Software Center.
[22:42] <tinashaw76> nervo:  what GPU are you using?
[22:42] <Gumby> seer_: the answer really depends on how you use your PC
[22:42] <nervo46> tinashaw76: After that, I ran nvidia-xconfig, rebooted and did a 'lsmod | grep -i nvidia' and verified it was all good.
[22:42] <Gumby> seer_: what apps you run on a daily basis etc
[22:42] <tinashaw76> also, did you use 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:42] <cr2222> hi! i have installed ubuntu and then installed the nvidia driver. Since this compiz is crashing on every startup so i have no window manager. is there a possibility to deactivate compiz?
[22:42] <cop> some familly of mine drove over here labtop and crashed the screen, so i figured im going to install ubuntu on the labtop and connect the extarnal screen via hdmi pardon my english i am from belgium. so everything works except for the resolution it is to big so it is very hard to work with the pc like this
[22:43] <seer_> i play alot of games and i love trying out new software and hardware
[22:43] <BillyZane2> EVERYONE
[22:43] <Osakasa^> seer, positive: you get newest version of ubuntu for free. very customiseble (see different desktop enviromet and compiz). Negative: games (wine helps for that)
[22:43] <cop> i only use it for movies with vlc
[22:43] <BillyZane2> EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where's Dr_willis
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Cop: what video chip does it use?
[22:43] <BillyZane2> everyone
[22:43] <whjms> BillyZane: who?
[22:43] <BillyZane2> Everyone listen closely.....
[22:43] <cop> video chip right
[22:43] <cop> uhm
[22:44] <BillyZane2> I.... the n00b at linux... solved a problem on my own
[22:44] <BillyZane2> today is a day to cry
[22:44] <whjms> cop: lspci | grep vga should give you a hint
[22:44] <BillyZane2> I DID IT!!!
[22:44] <cop> do i show you xranr?
[22:44] <BillyZane2> i feel so high right now
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Cop: sudo lshw -C display      will tell you
[22:44] <nervo46> tinashaw76: I'm running 12.10.
[22:44] <tinashaw76> ahh, k
[22:44] <tinashaw76> 12.04 here
[22:44] <nervo46> tinashaw76: My graphics card is a GeForce GTX 560i
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Seer:  try urban terror :-)
[22:45] <nervo46> er 560 Ti I mean
[22:45] <seer_> what is that?
[22:45] <cop> vga
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Seer: a game
[22:45] <whjms> seer_: kinda like cs, right?
[22:46] <seer_> cs?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Cop: can you paste the product line for the video chip please
[22:46] <whjms> seer_: counter-strike
[22:46] <seer_> <<<< noooooby noob
[22:46] <whjms> heh
[22:46] <cop> Radeon Mobility HD 3670
[22:46] <rcube> Hi all.  I have a ubuntu 12.04 server that I set up for development. I have a service running on port 9933.  I can connect to that port on localhost but when I try to connect to that port from an different machine on the same local network the connection is refused.  The firewall on the ubuntu box is the obvious culprit but I'm having trouble disabling it and it appears as though it should be allowing all traffic anyhow.  Help please!! =)
[22:46] <seer_> oh, its a game?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Cop: and if you run:  cat /etc/issue    what is the output?
[22:47] <serodr0nin> so I booted to ubuntu disk and was looking around before installing and after a reboot my computer wont even display bios :((
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Seer: I thought you pks
[22:47] <cop> Ubuntu 11.04 \
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Seer played a lot of games
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Cop: natty is no longer supported.  I suggest a clean install of Precise
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Serodr0nin: ubuntu will not modify your bios
[22:49] <cop> like complete format?
[22:49] <serodr0nin> yeah I know I dont understand what happened I didn't modify anything I just tried rebooting after booting to ubuntu disk and I have nothing :(
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Cop: I would,  yes
[22:49] <cop> aw ok
[22:49] <serodr0nin> I've tried rebooting clearing cmos, unplugging excess drives
[22:50] <cop> i thought apt-get upgrade allways upgraded to most recent
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Cop: you'd need to upgrade to 11.10 then to 12.04
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Cop: apt-get upgrade    keeps you on the same release but updates the packages to the latest for that release
[22:52] <cop> aha ok
[22:52] <cop> thats a bummer
[22:52] <cop> bit weird so everyone has to do a clean install if they want the newest distroµ
[22:53] <jrib> cop: no, it's just a different command to upgrade to a new release
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Cop: you can upgrade but it'll take you a long time with a lot of data
[22:53] <daze> is it normal to use /var/lib/<daemon-name> as a home dir for application users?
[22:54] <jrib> daze: yes
[22:54] <daze> ok, thanks ;)
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Cop: clean install will give the OS as it is intended. It also supported 5 years
[22:54] <cop> ok i thank you both for your time
[22:54] <luminous> hello, is there anything simple, like mail in bsd, that could be used from the command line to send an email for testing? not like mutt, simpler, like mail -s hello foo@bar.com
[22:54] <jrib> daze: wait, what do you mean by "application users"?
[22:55] <daze> in this case, deluged
[22:55] <whjms> luminous: mailx might help
[22:55] <cop> problem is its a hustle with this extended screen
[22:55] <luminous> whjms: I was wondering about mailx, but apt didn't have a description
[22:55] <jrib> daze: yes
[22:55] <luminous> I'll check it out, thanks
[22:55] <cop> im on the edge of my wifi so connection is slow aswell
[22:55] <daze> good. thanks again, jrib ;]
[22:55] <PapaJacky> guys
[22:56] <PapaJacky> if the russians nuke us, there'd be great casualties
[22:56] <whjms> luminous: check the man page for info on setting up an account
[22:56] <cop> maybe i just download the newest one and install it via usb, thanks again i will do that
[22:56] <whjms> PapaJacky: what?
[22:56] <luminous> whjms: useradd?
[22:56] <PapaJacky> there's like 1500 people packed on this tiny channel
[22:56] <PapaJacky> if the russians nuked us, that'd be a huge hit to the resistance
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Papajacky: this is support only, please take it elsewhere
[22:56] <luminous> whjms: do you also happen to know how ubuntu handles aliases, or where I could read more about this?
[22:56] <PapaJacky> :v
[22:56] <serodronin> got it to boot bak into windows. computer being finicky
[22:57] <whjms> luminous: no, you have to set up an email account separately (i think in your config file). as for aliases, what do you mean?
[22:57] <Guest48826> d
[22:57] <cop> quit
[22:57] <gelph> serodronin maybe glance at http://is.gd/NHF9Jt
[22:58] <luminous> whjms: tradional bsd/unix has /etc/mail/aliases which points accounts/usernames/email addys to one another the way you like. so, for example, mail sent to root, from the system, could be delivered to another (external) address. don't you receive updates from your systems on their health? :P
[22:58] <gelph> So launchpad uses only bazaar version control system?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Gelph: i'd ask in #launchpad
[22:59] <whjms> luminous: i never got that deep into system administration (all i've got is my desktop pc) :)
[22:59] <luminous> whjms: hah, so apt says that mailx is a virtual package and that you need to install either bsd-mail, mailutils, or heirloom-mailx. bsd-mail wants postfix, and mailutils has this set of deps:   guile-1.8-libs{a} libgsasl7{a} libmailutils2{a} libmysqlclient18{a} libntlm0{a} mailutils mysql-common{a} postfix{a}
[23:00] <luminous> fortunately, heirloom-mailx is what you think it is
[23:00] <whjms> huh.
[23:00] <gelph> ActionParsnip couldn't do a list channel in xchat to find the channel, couldn't do web search for "freenode channel list" either
[23:00] <luminous> why does apt have to be so confusing.. why was mailx virtual then? so silly
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ! Alis | gelph
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Luminous: its so that you have choice. Pretty standard in Ubuntu
[23:03] <luminous> I see
[23:03] <bel3atar> what's the commandline to run software center?
[23:03] <luminous> ActionParsnip: do you know what ubuntu does for mail aliases?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Bel3atar: gksudo software-center
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Luminous: not ran ubuntu as a mail server. Sorry
[23:05] <designbybeck_> In case anyone else had a problem viewing RAW camera images in Ubuntu, Simply installing gnome-thumbnail-raw doesn't do it. But adding this afterwards fixed it for me: http://www.tipsandtux.org/wordpress/raw-cr2-image-preview-in-nautilus-on-ubuntu-11-10.html
[23:06] <genoobie> hey all
[23:06] <genoobie> I have a thinkpad T21
[23:06] <luminous> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway :)
[23:07] <genoobie> Gnea, hello
[23:09] <genoobie> well anyway the problem is running flash on it
[23:09] <genoobie> flash + chromium = nogo
[23:10] <OerHeks> designbybeck_, i use Darktable for RAW images, but your problem was seeing preview in nautilus?
[23:10] <genoobie> so I was here yesterday and scotty^ and Gnea were helping me out and they suggested part of the problem might be the video driver
[23:10] <bel3atar> express.paltalk doesn't have any sound, and paltalk in wine freezes
[23:10] <designbybeck_> correct. I too use Darktable for RAW and love it OerHeks ;)
[23:10] <genoobie> I wanted to install 12.10 (this is a recent install) but the video would not work correctly
[23:11] <genoobie> so there's kind of a problem
[23:11] <genoobie> I'd like to install 12.10 but I can't get the video to work correctly
[23:11] <genoobie> not sure about how to fix it
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Genoobie: what GPU do you have?
[23:11] <genoobie> ActionParsnip, S3 Savage IX
[23:12] <genoobie> the machine is currently using savagefb as the driver
[23:12] <genoobie> and gallium 0.4 on softpipe
[23:12] <genoobie> for rendering
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Genoobie: not seen those for a while
[23:14] <genoobie> ActionParsnip, yep, it's older, but that's not the reason it shouldn't work :)
[23:14] <Peyam> hi
[23:14] <Peyam> how do I move windows from premier monitor to the second monitor using xubuntu?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Genoobie: sure. Lubuntu will do well
[23:17] <bel3atar> what distro should I try after ubuntu?
[23:18] <jey> what do you mean "should"?
[23:18] <whjms> bel3atar: arch linux is good if you want to learn more about linux
[23:18] <xangua> bel3atar: whathever you want, it's your choice not ours
[23:18] <whjms> bel3atar: of course, you could go crazy and switch to gentoo
[23:18] <jey> bel3atar: presumably you have some criteria or objective that will influence the choice. (e.g., for me the answer is "i hope nothing, so i can stop futzing with the OS and get back to work")
[23:18] <bel3atar> whjms: I've been on arch for a year now...
[23:19] <bel3atar> jey: just for fun
[23:19] <jey> bel3atar: buildroot
[23:19] <jey> buildroot is more of a meta-distro than a distro though
[23:19] <bel3atar> jey: embedded?
[23:20] <Shirakawasuna> I just wanted some confirmation... I ran some HD tests and GSmartControl (smartmontools) is showing 6 attributes in the pre-failure category (and I'm seeing read errors on a regular basis). Is it safe to assume that my drive is failure, versus having a software (kernel) bug?
[23:20] <whjms> so buildroot is somewhat similar to lfs?
[23:20] <jey> bel3atar: yes, but I used it on x86
[23:20] <bel3atar> Buildroot is a set of Makefiles and patches that makes it easy to generate a complete embedded Linux system.
[23:20] <bel3atar> Buildroot?
[23:21] <jey> whjms: no, the point of buildroot isn't "do everything by hand" -- it's to have the same amount of flexibility as "do everything by hand" but without all the trouble
[23:21] <whjms> oh, cool
[23:21] <lopez_> hi my english is bad but good, on boot ubuntu 12.04 with pendrive say error busybox and initramfs
[23:21] <jey> bel3atar: yes, buildroot on x86, for a kiosk-type of application with a low power Intel Atom board
[23:22] <nicekiwi> so uhm.. ive locked myself out of my VPS.. i have emergency access to SSH root, but im not sure howto fix it.. help?
[23:22] <jey> nicekiwi: define "locked myself out"
[23:23] <jey> this place has remarkably low traffic for having 1700 clients
[23:23] <genoobie> heh
[23:24] <nicekiwi> jey, I cant ssh in. connection is refuse.. have had a look at my sshd_config file.. seems to have a few issues :/
[23:24] <micro_-> nicekiwi: could you plastebin your sshd_config file?
[23:25] <micro_-> or you cant connect to the VPS at all?
[23:25] <nearst> hi ppl :)
[23:26] <usr13> nicekiwi: pastebinit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:26] <nicekiwi> micro_-, yup
[23:26] <usr13> and send resulting URL, here
[23:27] <micro_-> nicekiwi: if you cannot access your VPS and perform any actions, i suggest you contact your VPS administrator and ask for a recovery
[23:27] <nicekiwi> micro_-, recovery what?
[23:27] <nicekiwi> micro_-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1602983/
[23:27] <Gumby> nicekiwi: does your VPS have an admin console where you can connect to a shell?
[23:28] <nicekiwi> micro_-, as I said i have emergewncy access to root via ssh
[23:28] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yes
[23:28] <user___> Can someone assist me, I'm having a small crisis.
[23:28] <micro_-> nicekiwi; i see, and what happens if you try to ssh to it?
[23:28] <usr13> nicekiwi: You arent trying to ssh in as root are you?  ssh root@###.###.##.# ?
[23:28] <nicekiwi> user___, ask away, dont ask to ask :)
[23:28] <huttan> nicekiwi: that will only allow one user, called: ezra
[23:28] <tinashaw76> user___ whats up?
[23:28] <TheLordOfTime> user___:  you need to provide details first :P
[23:29] <entreri> hey there, I'm looking to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu on an old netbook, which one is lighter ?
[23:29] <user___> I have a Mac formatted usb stick, that says I cannot access due to permissions.  I just installed Ubuntu today.
[23:29] <user___> It tells me I am not the owner.
[23:29] <huttan> nicekiwi: either add ur user with a space between on that line, or remove the line completely if u want anyone to be able to ssh in
[23:29] <nicekiwi> usr13, yes I am.
[23:29] <usr13> nicekiwi: Well, that's why your getting rejected.
[23:29] <nicekiwi> micro_-, ssh: connect to host *****.com port 22: Connection refused
[23:30] <nicekiwi> usr13, correct. however i created a new user to use and I cant access with that either
[23:30] <bel3atar> nicekiwi: hosts don't have stars
[23:31] <micro_-> nicekiwi; do you get a response if you ping it?
[23:31] <nicekiwi> bel3atar, neither do darleks
[23:31] <micro_-> bel3atar; he is masking the ip
[23:31] <huttan> nicekiwi: is ur ssh server even running ? u shouldnt be refused
[23:31] <user___> How would I just enable permissions on that usb stick (Formatted Mac OS X Extended Journaled)
[23:31] <nicekiwi> huttan, it is running
[23:31] <micro_-> entreri; try xfce ubuntu its based on xfce
[23:31] <nicekiwi> micro_-, i can ping the server successfully
[23:31] <tinashaw76> user___:  you can try sudo chown <your user id> <mount point of usb>
[23:32] <micro_-> nicekiwi; how about telnet SERVERIP 22
[23:32] <huttan> nicekiwi: if u telnet the.ip.with.ssh 22
[23:32] <huttan> nicekiwi: what does it say ?
[23:32] <micro_-> nicekiwi; did you change your firewall / iptables settings?
[23:32] <entreri> micro_-: I really need to know only between ubuntu or kubuntu, xubuntu or lubntu are not enough user-friendly in their GUI IMO
[23:33] <nicekiwi> micro_-, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[23:33] <usr13> nicekiwi: Run nmap against it and see if it's blocked.  nmap -p 22 ###.###.##.#
[23:33] <micro_-> entreri; it is hard to say, gnome-terminal is not what gnome-classic used to be, try to diable all visual effects
[23:33] <nicekiwi> micro_-, no. O only disabled root remote login and allowed the user ezra
[23:33] <Gumby> nicekiwi: on the VPS do netstat -tpan |grep 22
[23:34] <Gumby> see if sshd is even running
[23:34] <Nils_> Hello Guys
[23:34] <Nils_> Can I ask for help here?
[23:34] <tinashaw76> Nils_: yes
[23:34] <usr13> nicekiwi: If it says  "22/tcp open  ssh" it is not blocked.
[23:34] <micro_-> nicekiwi; could you please 'netstat -noa |grep :22' and see if there is a 'LISTEN' on port 22
[23:34] <user___> Where is the Terminal in Ubuntu?
[23:34] <user___> 12.10
[23:34] <bel3atar> when I change themes in unity nothing changes
[23:35] <bel3atar> why?
[23:35] <Nils_> I just got a new laptop from ebay. A Thinkpad T500 and I got problems installing the right drivers for my graphics card
[23:35] <tinashaw76> user___ click the ubuntu image and start typing terminal
[23:35] <nicekiwi> usr13, it says closed
[23:35] <micro_-> user___; use ALT+f2 -> type 'terminal'
[23:35] <bel3atar> give the package name of a theme
[23:35] <Nils_> Many applications including steam won't run
[23:35] <nicekiwi> micro_-, on the server?
[23:35] <joshlegs> user___, ctrl-alt-T got it for me i thought
[23:35] <huttan> nicekiwi: u need someone to get on the server and start it, or if u can access it via remote console :)
[23:35] <Nils_> and while trying to install I always get errors
[23:35] <nicekiwi> huttan, start what?
[23:36] <huttan> nicekiwi: sshd
[23:36] <nicekiwi> huttan, it is started
[23:36] <nicekiwi> i think :/
[23:36] <huttan> nicekiwi: if it was started u wouldnt get refused
[23:36] <micro_-> nicekiwi; if you do 'ps ax|grep sshd' do you get a proccess?
[23:36] <bel3atar> nm
[23:36] <Gryffin> Question regarding LinuxLive: Does it create a bootable installer, or a bootable persistent drive? Anyone?
[23:36] <Nils_> I think there is a problem with something called fgxlr
[23:36] <huttan> nicekiwi: if it was filtered it could refuse u. but it isnt since it says closed
[23:37] <Gumby> nicekiwi: what is the output of service ssh status
[23:37] <nicekiwi> Gumby, ssh stop/waiting
[23:37] <Gumby> service ssh restart
[23:37] <huttan> nicekiwi: do you have any other way to access ur server other than ssh ?
[23:37] <Nils_> Any advise?
[23:38] <micro_-> Nils_; fglrx is the graphics driver of ATI
[23:38] <usr13> nicekiwi: closed probably means that sshd is not running, (or not listening).
[23:38] <nicekiwi> huttan, uhh what do you mean?
[23:38] <Gumby> I'm not convinced he has accessed it using ssh.  I think it is maybe a console he connects to via a web interface.  But then again, I could be totally wrong
[23:38] <nicekiwi> micro_-,  5324 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[23:38] <huttan> nicekiwi: like a remote console through esxi
[23:38] <nicekiwi> Gumby, i have access via a web interface correct
[23:38] <micro_-> nicekiwi; do what Gumby said run 'service sshd start'
[23:39] <micro_-> it should fix the issue
[23:39] <huttan> nicekiwi: if they provided u with a web interface to deal with services , start sshd there and ur off
[23:39] <nicekiwi> huttan, not really. its not starting
[23:39] <Gumby> nicekiwi: that web interface is not ssh, it is just connecting via a terminal.  ssh does not appear to be started
[23:39] <nicekiwi> Gumby, sshd is not a service, ssh is but can not start'
[23:39] <Gumby> (just an fyi)
[23:40] <Gryffin> Any experts in LinuxLive here?
[23:40] <Gumby> nicekiwi: why can it not start?
[23:40] <nicekiwi> Gumby, ssh does startm but when i check its status it says stop/waiting
[23:40] <Gumby> any errors?
[23:40] <huttan> nicekiwi: u need to email the ppl providing the VPS for you and ask them to start sshd for you then
[23:40] <nicekiwi> no obvious errors
[23:40] <Gumby> does your VPS have an IP ?
[23:40] <nicekiwi> yes
[23:40] <Gumby> I mean, can you view its IP using ipconfig ?
[23:40] <Gumby> errr
[23:41] <Gumby> ifconfig
[23:41] <usr13> Gumby: On a Ubuntu system, it will be just ssh (not sshd).
[23:41] <Gumby> damn windows world
[23:41] <user___> Terminal won't open.
[23:41] <user___> alt, f2, typed terminal, double clicked on gears icon, nothing happens.
[23:41] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yup
[23:41] <usr13> user___: Ctrl-Alt-t
[23:42] <user___> yay, magic
[23:42] <whjms> user___: type gnome-terminal instead. 'terminal' is the name of the application, but 'gnome-terminal' is the actual executable
[23:42] <usr13> user___: (gnome-terminal)
[23:42] <user___> So how would I enable permissions of a USB stick again?  What command do I use?
[23:42] <Gumby> usr13: technically it is still sshd (sshd is the daemon, ssh is the init script) but I get what you're saying.
[23:43] <whjms> user___: you'd have to use chmod
[23:43] <usr13> Gumby: Yea, but it'll show up in service as just ssh
[23:43] <Ghost1227> Can anyone point me to a reference on making deb packages?
[23:43] <micro_-> nicekiwi; try 'service ssh start' what do you get back?
[23:43] <Gumby> usr13: and in ps as sshd ;)
[23:43] <whjms> Ghost1227: http://debian-handbook.info/
[23:43] <nearst> my ati driver is dying
[23:43] <nicekiwi> micro_-, ssh start/running, process 5414
[23:44] <huttan> nicekiwi: what happen if u telnet to 22 now ?
[23:44] <micro_-> Ghost1227; http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+make+deb+package
[23:44] <user___> What would be the exact command?
[23:44] <micro_-> user___; try xterm
[23:44] <Gumby> nicekiwi: were you fooling with the ssh config files before this all got messed up?
[23:44] <usr13> Gumby: Yes, you are correct, the actual name is sshd  and so if you do either  ps aux |grep ssh  or ps aux |grep sshd
[23:44] <user___> I'm new at this, I have almost no experiance.
[23:44] <nicekiwi> huttan, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[23:45] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yes. i wouldnt say fooling..
[23:45] <whjms> user___: what's the filesystem on the drive?
[23:45] <micro_-> user___; its ok, try to go through first-time guides, use google
[23:45] <user___> Mac OS X Extended Journaled
[23:45] <Gumby> nicekiwi: on the VPS itself what does telnet localhost 22 tell you?
[23:45] <nicekiwi> Gumby, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[23:46] <micro_-> nicekiwi; do you have a firewall/iptables set up?
[23:46] <Gumby> nicekiwi: ok, so basically it appears your ssh config is fubar
[23:46] <micro_-> i agree with Gumby
[23:46] <Madaramost> hi all
[23:46] <Gumby> you could start fresh by purging the openssh-server package and reinstalling
[23:46] <micro_-> nicekiwi; email your VPS support they will fix it
[23:47] <detrimental> Is there a good guide to installing linux beside windows using gpt partition table?
[23:47] <huttan> Gumby: how is he telnetting his VPS localhost if he cant get in ??
[23:47] <micro_-> detrimental; you could install linux inside a virtual machine, check virtualbox.org
[23:47] <nicekiwi> micro_-, no iptables of friewall
[23:47] <whjms> user___: using a drive with the osx filesystem might be a little tricky...i'm not quite sure what to do.
[23:47] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yup :/
[23:47] <Gumby> huttan: his VPS provides a web interface that connects to a tty
[23:47] <huttan> ohh
[23:47] <detrimental> i had linux and deleted to reinstall windows as i needed it for school
[23:48] <user___> I just need to copy the files from the stick to the hard drive.  lol wow this is hard
[23:48] <detrimental> i left 250gb for linux already.
[23:48] <whjms> detrimental: that's unfortunate
[23:48] <Madaramost> how i know space my disck ?
[23:48] <whjms> user___: what happens if you try to open it in 'Files'?
[23:48] <detrimental> i know, i couldnt get office 2010 working correctly
[23:48] <dr_willis> Madaramost:  df   command
[23:48] <micro_-> detrimental; with linux you should use libreoffice
[23:48] <bel3atar> I need a tutorial to resize my ubuntu partition and reconfigure grub
[23:48] <Gumby> nicekiwi: apt-get purge openssh-server then double check to make sure that /etc/ssh/sshd_config is gone, then apt-get install openssh-server
[23:48] <user___> It tells me I don't have permissions, only some folders though, not all of them.  Seems the folders were copied directly from Mac's home folder.
[23:48] <Madaramost> thanks <dr_willis>
[23:48] <detrimental> i NEED microsoft for school
[23:49] <Gumby> or if you prefer, backup /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:49] <Gumby> nicekiwi: ^^
[23:49] <micro_-> detrimental; ok, i suggest installing linux inside a virtual machine as i stated before using vmware play or virtualbox
[23:49] <user___> The folders that were directly copied aren't accesable, the folders that were created by me are.
[23:49] <detrimental> and failed at getting everything working on linux so installed windows 8 how it came using gpt partition table and now need to install linux beside it.
[23:50] <detrimental> i dont want a virtual machine...
[23:50] <whjms> user___: if you right click on the folders, what does it say under the permissions section?
[23:50] <detrimental> i use linux primarily
[23:50] <detrimental> i cant stand this windows 8 so only use it for office.
[23:50] <micro_-> detrimental; ok so just burn the linux installation .iso to a disk, boot it and install it side-by-side on the 250g partition you created
[23:50] <bel3atar> id I have windows and ubuntu side by side, and I resize the partitions, do I need to reconfigure grub?
[23:50] <user___> Owner: 99 - user #99
[23:50] <user___> all greyed out
[23:50] <bel3atar> s/id/if
[23:50] <huttan> nicekiwi: the [23:50] <huttan> nicekiwi: might give u trouble
[23:50] <detrimental> ok what about the windows boot mgr
[23:50] <user___> You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions.
[23:51] <detrimental> i just need a partition scheme
[23:51] <dr_willis> bel3atar: perhaps.. dependa on what you did
[23:51] <detrimental> it being gpt and using fat32
[23:51] <bel3atar> dr_willis: resize
[23:51] <Madaramost> can i install ubuntu studio in win 8 ?
[23:51] <whjms> user___: ok, so now you have to change the owner of the directory to be you
[23:51] <user___> Right.  I just need the Terminal command and I think I'll be set.
[23:51] <detrimental> alls i need is /boot/efi flagged boot and /boot flagged legacy boot i believe
[23:52] <genoobie> hey all
[23:52] <detrimental> im just trying to make sure before i do it
[23:52] <genoobie> anyone install quetzal on an ibm thinkpad?
[23:52] <genoobie> running into problems...
[23:52] <genoobie> video problems
[23:52] <whjms> user___: you're going to have to use 'sudo' for it. 'cd' to directory in which your copied directory is. ex. if the copied dir is in ~/desktop/files, cd to 'desktop'
[23:53] <user___> copied directory as in the usb stick? or the folder I want that data
[23:54] <whjms> user___: ok, so just make a directory on your desktop, and copy the files from the drive to that folder
[23:54] <Vallhalla81> Hello all, a while ago I used a distro (I can;t rember what one), one of the features was that you could log in as another user or the same one with full gui/desktop in a window in the current session, does anyone know what program can be used to do this?
[23:54] <detrimental> ok well thanks for just suggesting use vm when i asked a question spacific to partitioning gpt beside windows. guess im better off just figuring it out on my own than asking here.
[23:54] <dr_willis> Vallhalla81: xnest  perhaps
[23:55] <Vallhalla81> dr_willis: thanks I will have a look
[23:55] <dr_willis> Vallhalla81: it can alos be done with vnc
[23:55] <Vallhalla81> Yeah not a fan of vnc though
[23:55] <user___> So I move to the USB stick directory.
[23:56] <cardiel> someone know why i get poor video quality on 12.04 when playing xvid,h264 movies?
[23:56] <Physicist> Hello, dr_willis. How can I erase a pathetic root account without the pathetic password?
[23:56] <jrib> nicekiwi: what are you typing to connect?
[23:56] <Gumby> nicekiwi: how'd it go?
[23:56] <nicekiwi> jr, ssh root@*****.com
[23:57] <dr_willis> Physicist: live cd or recovery mode
[23:57] <user___> How do I "cd" in Terminal to the USB stick?
[23:57] <jrib> nicekiwi: but didn't you paste a config where only the user "ezra" was allowed to ssh?
[23:57] <whjms> user___: don't cd to the usb stick. can't you copy those files to your pc using nautilus?
[23:58] <fellayaboy> hey if i set the dns using the gui network manager will it set it for all the wifis or just the network/router im connected to?
[23:58] <nicekiwi> Gumby, reinstalled openssh-server after purging it. backuped the sshd_config file and restored it. ssh wont restart after that, now gonna restore the new sshd_config and see if it starts right
[23:58] <ftruzzi> anyone knows how to set up VNC so that the unity starts? the default xstartup script only displays a grey screen, nothing inside it
[23:58] <Physicist> dr_willis: Are you of the Ubuntu team management?
[23:58] <nicekiwi> jrib, yeah well ezra@*****.com dosnt work either
[23:58] <user___> Is nautilis built into Ubuntu?
[23:58] <dr_willis> Physicist:  no
[23:58] <whjms> user___: yeah, it should show up as 'Files'
[23:58] <user___> It won't let me copy, move, or access.
[23:59] <dr_willis> user___: its the file manager
[23:59] <whjms> user___: oh
[23:59] <nicekiwi> huttan, removed the [23:59] <jrib> nicekiwi: so are you able to "ssh ezra@localhost" on the server directly?
[23:59] <user___> Yea, ok.  It says I don't have permissions to copy, move, read, nothing.
[23:59] <user___> I can just see the folders.
[23:59] <jrib> nicekiwi: I didn't realize Gumby was still helping you.  I'll let you carry on.
[23:59] <whjms> user___: what happens if you run 'gksu nautilus' and then try to copy files? it should ask you for your password