[00:34] <robtygart> entreri: Ubuntu lags really bad on my laptop
[00:35] <robtygart> Kubuntu runs nice....
[02:27] <spacecase> I created a backup of a ubuntu install with KDE, did a fresh install of kubuntu and restored my home folder, now KDE is unusably slow.  How can I fix this?
[06:40] <kdns> Hi All. Muon has become unresponsive during configuring a new kernel. Can someone please advise the most graceful recovery from this? Kill it and sudo dpkg -configure -a ?
[08:46] <sbivol> kdns_: Hi, did you solve the Muon issue?
[09:11] <kdns_> Hi sbivol, thank for asking :) I ended up doing as I mentioned... I had to kill both muon and dpkg, but before I did so, I saved the output of ps -ef | grep dpkg, so that I knew what packages it had attempted. I tried to re-run it, but it failed, so I tried sudo dpkg --configure -a. It seems to have worked, I'm about to reboot to find out for sure :)
[09:14] <sbivol> kdns_: do you have dkms installed?
[09:20] <kdns_> sbivol: I do, for nvidia and for webcamstudio (there may be others)
[09:20] <Senjai> What's a notepad++ like text editor for Kubuntu/KDE?
[09:21] <kdns_> Senjai: Kate, the default. Be sure to look around the settings and plugins, just like npp
[09:22] <sbivol> Senjai: Kate uses the exact same editor component that N++ also uses.
[09:22] <Senjai> kdns_: cool stuff, thanks. I'm eventually going to use emacs, but until i can get used to vikeys I'm staying away
[09:23] <sbivol> as kdns_ said, configure Kate and enable tabs and any other plugins you may need
[09:23] <Senjai> sbivol: will do
[09:25] <kdns_> sbivol: should I be concerned for dkms?
[09:28] <sbivol> kdns_: not really, I had it ever since Dell started shipping notebooks with Ubuntu preinstalled (dkms is Dell's creation), and no issues. but it's involved in building kernel modules, so could be related to the hang you experienced
[09:30] <sbivol> kdns_: with Ubuntu, Dell were selling only notebooks with Intel graphics initially, and DKMS was being used only to rebuild the kernel module for the dial-up modem :-)
[10:41] <ramapte> kdns__: I think that will work
[10:42] <ramapte> kdns__: just run update-grub to be safe
[10:42] <kdns__> thanks ramapte :)
[10:42] <ramapte> update-grub ensures you won't have a broken GRUB
[10:42] <ramapte> in the output linux should be detected
[10:42] <ramapte> that's all
[11:08] <kdns__> thanks ramapte... it did reconfigure grub during the dpkg run, so I'll run that to be sure
[11:19] <backjlack> Hello.
[11:20] <backjlack> I have some questions concerning Kubuntu 12.04. Is anyone else unable to log out, sleep, restart or shutdown? Does anyone else have to manually start krunner most of the time?
[11:21] <backjlack> I was having these problems all the time. I upgraded to KDE 4.9.5 and I'm still having these problems.
[11:29] <sbivol> backjlack: not sure about krunner, but I remember issues with shutdown in 12.04. the computer sometimes refused to end the KDE session. I don't remember tha cause, but the sounds that play on session end should be your suspects
[11:29] <backjlack> sbivol: Do you know a fix for this?
[11:32] <frenzz> irc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe
[11:32] <sbivol> backjlack: if the sounds are indeed the issue, you can disable them in System Settings -> Application and system notifications -> Manage notifications ->  Player settings -> No audio output
[11:34] <sbivol> backjlack: I have translated those names in English on-the-fly, so please adjust them to the reality :-)
[11:36] <backjlack> sbivol: Thank you. Those were correct. Unfortunately, it looks like that's not the problem.
[11:37] <mokush> does anybody have any good kate color schemes?
[11:39] <sbivol> backjlack: if you're willing to, please try to disable only the session management notifications, in ... -> Manage notifications -> Applications -> Event source [KDE workspace]
[11:40] <backjlack> sbivol: Yes, that didn't help either. It's still not doing anything.
[11:41] <sbivol> backjlack: oh, then the reason is something else...
[11:41] <backjlack> http://paste.kde.org/663962/59891335/
[11:41] <backjlack> That's kdm.log.
[12:14] <backjlack> I think I've fixed my problem with the broken log out, sleep, restart and all.
[12:14] <backjlack> I've removed the kde settings and let KDE 4.9.5 create them from scratch again for me.
[12:15] <backjlack> That seems to have fixed it all. Perhaps it was an issue in KDE 4.8.x.
[12:15] <backjlack> Something must have been configured improperly.
[12:18] <sbivol> for some strange reason, changing the application colos scheme from System Settings breaks font rendering... I ended up without subpixel hinting without ever touching it
[12:18] <sbivol> s/colos/color/
[13:07] <ed2346789> hi, how do I uninstall google browser? the support page on google.com says I have to go to synapctic manager but I havent got synaptic, and its not there in muon software center?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <mokush> ed2346789: if you didn't install the google-chrome package yourself, search for chromium-browser in muon
[13:13] <ed2346789> mokush: yeah I installed it myself, its not in muon and its called google chrome (it seems chromium is different browser/version)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> ed2346789, chrome isn't in muon , but chromium-browser is.
[13:17] <ed2346789> so I have chrome and want to uninstall it, how do I do it?
[13:18] <ed2346789> I tried apt-get remove but it cannot find google chrome
[13:21] <ed2346789> oh yes found it, sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable worked :D
[13:22] <BluesKaj> ed2346789, try to install chromium-browser with apt get , it's probly what installed
[13:22] <ed2346789> already removed, thanks
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ed2346789, which kubuntu version are you using ?
[13:24] <invariant> How can I run a graphical application as a different user in my current session?
[13:24] <ed2346789> Platform Version 4.8.5 (4.8.5), 3.2.0-37 generic
[13:24] <invariant> When I use sudo, I get Error: cannot open display: :0
[13:25] <BluesKaj> ed2346789, that's your kde version
[13:25] <BluesKaj> ed2346789, lsb_release -a
[13:25] <muelux> kdesudo
[13:26] <ed2346789> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ok , that explains why you still had google chrome in the rpos
[13:29] <BluesKaj> invariant, you don't use sudo mto open graphical apps , as  muelux posted kdesudo for graphicals
[13:29] <ed2346789> actually I installed it myself, just wanted to try whats it all about, didnt like it, but couldnt uninstall
[13:29] <invariant> BluesKaj, kdesudo doesn't work for my sound.
[13:30] <invariant> BluesKaj, kdesudo -u someuser 'mplayer -v /tmp/foo.mp3'
[13:30] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do with your  sound , invariant ?
[13:30] <invariant> BluesKaj, hearing it.
[13:30] <invariant> BluesKaj, removing the 'kde' part results in hearing audio.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> in the terminal ?
[13:31] <invariant> BluesKaj, however, running the graphical application with sudo doesn't work as explained earlier.
[13:31] <invariant> BluesKaj, of course, where else?
[13:31] <invariant> I also don't understand where kdesu is, since kdesudo isn't even an official kde program.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> sudo is for use the terminal/konsole , kdesudo id fro the krunner and graphical apps in the konsole
[13:32] <BluesKaj> is for
[13:34] <BluesKaj> invariant, no need for sarcasm , if you want help , courtesy goes along way ...we don't know what you know or don't know
[13:34] <invariant> BluesKaj, assume I know just about everything, except for the thing I am asking.
[13:35] <invariant> BluesKaj, you still haven't told me anything that helps me further.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> I assume nothing until you give details of what you are doing
[13:35] <invariant> BluesKaj, I already gave an exact command.
[13:35] <invariant> BluesKaj, how much more precise do you want it to be?
[13:36] <invariant> BluesKaj, I said what didn't work.
[13:36] <monkeyjuice> invariant:  only way you can get  audio to work is if you use sudo ?
[13:36] <invariant> monkeyjuice, you should be more precise.
[13:36] <invariant> monkeyjuice, you have not read the observed evidence and instead decided to imagine new evidence.
[13:37] <monkeyjuice> ok never mind then you dont seem to need help
[13:37] <invariant> I need help from a *competent* person.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> sudo isn't used for graphical apps , you must use kdesudo , if sudo only works then you've done the damage to your set up previously
[13:38] <raymears> hi everyone. having some issues with the font size in java swing apps such as netbeans and the like. they use the GTK2 look and feel which defaults to oxygen-gtk, as defined in systemsettings -> appearance. They just won't use the proper font sizes... any ideas?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> and go do some research about sudo vs kdesudo , invariant
[13:40] <Ab3L> hi. i've a problem with jovie. i cannot set the voices and when i try to play a text (pronounce what is copied) i get a message telling me there's something wrong. it tells me to give a look in a log file, but i really don't understand which one and where it is. can you help me to make work jovie again? i'm running kubuntu 12.04.
[13:40] <invariant> BluesKaj, dude, can you please not tell me that to call 911 we need to call 911?
[13:41] <invariant> BluesKaj, you have said absolutely nothing useful and only keep repeating yoursel.f
[13:41] <invariant> BluesKaj, why do you want to scare me away with your low quality responses?
[13:42] <invariant> BluesKaj, if you don't know how to help. shut up.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> raymears, just to check , you set the gtk fonts in system settings>appearance , gtk themes ?
[13:46] <raymears> BluesKaj: yes i did
[13:46] <raymears> and it works in firefox and... vmware and other gtk apps
[13:48] <raymears> BluesKaj: they look as native as it gets. the issue is.. when i start a java swing app, it will use the correct GTK settings for the look and feel. it will look well integrated...
[13:48] <raymears> BluesKaj: wanna see a sceenshot?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> raymears, I don't know anything about netbeans etc
[13:48] <raymears> BluesKaj: it is not about netbeans etc. it is about gtk settings :)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> see ? :)
[13:50] <raymears> BluesKaj: i have a virtual image with an almost identical setup, except for the fact that it is a brand new ubuntu installation.. where the fonts look perfect
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ubuntu installation ? raymears , did you add the the kubuntu desktop to an original ubuntu install ?
[13:53] <raymears> BluesKaj: i haven't installed ubuntu in ages. i meant of course ... kubuntu
[13:59] <BluesKaj> raymears, dunno why you have the problem ..I made synaptic look like a kde app , by opening system settings with root permissions in krunner and setting up the fonts etc for apps that require them like synaptic etc ...dunno if that helps you though
[14:09] <Ab3L> there's someone who is mastering jovie?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, do you use kmouth as well?
[14:18] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: yes, also. but currently i'm trying to set jovie
[14:19] <Ab3L> my first problem now is how to set up a new language
[14:20] <Ab3L> at the moment there's a woman that speaks only italian from kmouth. but i would like to hear a text from, for exemple, a pdf file written in English or in French
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, sorry , I have no idea about jovie ...perhaps someone else can help ?
[14:25] <Ab3L> ok
[14:25] <Ab3L> BluesKaj: what about kmouth?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> the same
[14:25] <Ab3L> well.
[14:26] <Ab3L> you may know how to change the language.
[14:26] <Ab3L> don't you?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> never used either aqpplication  Ab3L ...I should not have responded , sorry
[14:28] <Ab3L> if i click on "speaker" tab in configuration, and then on the "add" button, i get a list of possible speakers. i can select them, but i cannot really add them (the "ok" button stays gray/inactive)
[14:29] <Ab3L> ok. hope someone reads my lines and give me a suggestion.
[14:29] <Ab3L> thak you anyway
[14:29] <Ab3L> s/thak/thank/
[14:43] <Ab3L> i found the log file. but there's something strange inside. it says it loads "festival" module, but i don't think i've festival any more.
[15:45] <muelux> Hello, I'm new to this Kubuntu-Chat (and to IRC at all): so please be patient with me and feel free to correct my mistakes and my english as well.
[15:46] <muelux> My distro :
[15:46] <muelux> muelux@muelux-LT70B-T61:/media/SAMSUNG/MeineBackups$ lsb_release -a
[15:46] <muelux> No LSB modules are available.
[15:46] <muelux> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[15:46] <muelux> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[15:46] <FloodBotK1> muelux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <muelux> Release:        12.04
[15:46] <muelux> Codename:       precise
[15:49] <muelux> My distro is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1604828/
[15:49] <muelux> My Problem (for now) is: I can't get the K3b-MP3 Encoder installed, it always turnes around to the point i was starting from
[15:50] <muelux>  I get one more time the suggestion, that additional features are available for K3b
[15:59] <BluesKaj> muelux, if you are receiving the message box to install mp3 codec and already installed it , just ignore the message , but make sure libk3b6-extracodecs is installed on your system
[16:03] <muelux> BluesKaj, thanks for replying, i just checked that  libk3b6-extracodecs are installed: they are
[16:04] <BluesKaj> muelux, then you should have mp3 burning capability with k3b
[16:04] <muelux> the problem is, that, every time K3b starts up, the message pops up again
[16:05] <BluesKaj> that "additional features" dialog is a bug , just close it and run k3b as normal
[16:06] <BluesKaj> muelux, have you updated/upgraded lately , that migfht fix the popup
[16:06] <muelux> i think, the problem is, that i use a second Admin-account for safeness (muelux and muex both as Admin-Accounts)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> muelux, no ,i'm the only user and I had the same popup up until a few weeks ago
[16:07] <BluesKaj> jusdtmake sure update/upgrade is for all users
[16:08] <muelux> BluesKaj, my latest Update-check was three hours ago; but thanks, i'll check it for the other accounts
[16:14] <disharmonic> how can i prevent KDE from turning off the monitor when watching youtube videos?
[16:15] <away> go to battery monitor settings and adjust the dim display/screen off settings
[16:15] <invariant> away, that's not what he wants to hear.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, laptop or desktop ?
[16:17] <disharmonic> BluesKaj, laptop. i don't want to disable the screen off setting, just add youtube to the exceptions if its possible
[16:18] <invariant> disharmonic, for Youtube there is no solution, other than modifying the code of your browser or polling.
[16:18] <disharmonic> invariant, using rekonq for youtube would work then?
[16:18] <invariant> disharmonic, if you don't mind your computer doing an operation which takes 5 ms every 15 minutes, then you can work around it.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, try setting you screensaver to 180 mins or some such
[16:19] <invariant> BluesKaj, that's not what he wants to hear.
[16:19] <invariant> He wants to hear that this very basic feature works.
[16:19] <invariant> I also asked for it some time ago.
[16:19] <invariant> It's a basic feature and it's not too much to expect a system to have that.
[16:20] <invariant> disharmonic, best thing you can do is vote for the bug or create a new bug.
[16:21] <invariant> disharmonic, other than that you could likely detect the window name or current open tab every 15 minutes.
[16:21] <invariant> disharmonic, then if it is youtube, disable it, otherwise enable it.
[16:22] <invariant> disharmonic, the right solution is to add a dbus programmable option to browsers.
[16:22] <invariant> disharmonic, or to inspect the state of some videochip.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> I think the screenoff takes precedence on laptops , but never used it on my laptop
[16:23] <disharmonic> default setting is 5mins for screen off on battery
[16:23] <disharmonic> so yeah
[16:24] <disharmonic> I'll try it in Rekonq, to see wht happens
[16:26] <invariant> disharmonic, I do not expect that to work.
[16:32] <disharmonic> invariant, nope. Tbh this seems like an upstream issue really
[16:32] <invariant> disharmonic, did I ever say it wasn't?
[16:33] <invariant> disharmonic, I am one of those people that doesn't care whoms fault it is.
[16:33] <invariant> disharmonic, also, I am inclined to say that every bug in Kubuntu is the fault of the distributors of Kubuntu.
[16:34] <invariant> disharmonic, if MS distributes an OS, they also are not going to say that some subcontractor made a mistake.
[16:34] <invariant> disharmonic, they distribute it, it's their problem.
[16:37] <disharmonic> Reporting a bug to  the proper people is important in the FOSS world. The KDE project is in a better position to fix such a bug. That doesn;t mean that the Kubuntu devs couldn't make a patch. Keep in mind that Kubuntu is effectivly a community project now
[17:27] <muelux> BluesKaj, i checked it for the other account: the same there; ok I'll ignore the popup-message from now on
[17:27] <BluesKaj> muelux, burning mp3 in linux is elementary , it should work
[17:29] <muelux> but i got a strange behavior everytime i have to install some things: i have the choice between three accounts, to of them
[17:30] <muelux> seems to be identical muelux (2 times) and 'muex' (ok, the other admin-account)
[19:22] <Senjai> I have an issue. I'm trying to associate my laptop with a static IP
[19:23] <Senjai> After editing /etc/network/interfaces and restarting networking
[19:23] <Senjai> eth0 dissapeared
[19:23] <Senjai> from ifconfig
[19:23] <Senjai> and my connection manager crashed
[19:23] <Senjai> but I still have a connection
[19:23] <Senjai> And I'm confused as to what to set for my nameservers (beyond localhost, and the router)
[19:30] <mandoguit_> how to turn off transparancy on panel?   tnks :)
[19:32] <Senjai> Ok, I manually setup eth 0 with sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.71 netmask 255.255.255.0
[19:32] <Senjai> but the netmanager still wont start, and I still feel like I'm fucking up somewhere
[19:33] <IdleOne> Senjai: please don't swear.
[19:34] <Senjai> IdleOne: sorry about that. Force of habit. Will make sure I'm more diligent
[19:34] <IdleOne> much appreciated :)
[19:35] <tsimpson> Senjai: you should probably follow the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#static-ip-addressing
[19:36] <Senjai> tsimpson: Ahh, that goes against some of the tutorials I've read so far. I'll go through that one and let you know how the result turns out
[19:36] <Senjai> tsimpson: thanks for the tip either way
[19:39] <tsimpson> Senjai: also note that you can put nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base, as /etc/resolv.conf is replaced by the resolvconf program at boot
[19:40] <Senjai> test
[19:40] <Senjai> mmk part one seems okay
[19:58] <Senjai> tsimpson: no luck
[19:59] <Senjai> tsimpson: I ended up having to revert to the backup before I started tinkering to even connect after the reboot
[19:59] <Senjai> tsimpson: are their router requirements for static ips? I DMZ'd this IP. but I cant for the life of me get apache to accept incoming connections, even though it works on windows
[20:00] <tsimpson> not really, you just need to make sure you have the IP and netmask, along with the gateway set
[20:00] <Senjai> DNS servers shouldnt be the gamebreaker right
[20:01] <tsimpson> it's usually the router IP, same as the gateway
[20:02] <tsimpson> and DNS is only needed for outgoing, so it's not going to really effect apache
[20:02] <Senjai> You know what. I think I've been really.. stupid here
[20:03] <Senjai> I've been trying to set up for eth0
[20:03] <Senjai> but Im running wireless.
[20:03] <Senjai> Should probably use wlan0 right
[20:03] <Senjai> I have a reason for going against common sense on the eth0 move though.
[20:04] <tsimpson> if you're using the desktop, you can use the network manager to setup the wireless interface
[20:04] <tsimpson> doing it manually is a real pain, and I've only managed to do it once, a year or two ago
[20:04] <Senjai> Alright
[20:04] <Senjai> gonna disconnect, edit and reconnect.
[20:04] <Senjai> be right bacl
[20:04] <tsimpson> make sure to revert /etc/network/interfaces et all though
[20:05] <Senjai> doing it as we speak
[20:05] <tsimpson> network manager can be a little fragile
[20:05] <Senjai> I gathered that
[20:06] <Senjai> Whoop
[20:06] <Senjai> looks to be running fine now
[20:06] <Senjai> Should be static
[20:07] <tsimpson> I found it easier to configure my router to assign a static IP based on my wifi MAC address over DHCP
[20:07] <tsimpson> sounds more complicated, but was actually easier
[20:07] <Senjai> tsimpson: fun times now: The server at whatismyip.com can't be found because the DNS look-up failed. DNS is the network service that translates a website's name to its Internet address. This error is most often caused by having no connection to the Internet or a misconfigured network. It can also be caused by an unresponsive DNS server or a firewall preventing Chromium from accessing the network.
[20:07] <Senjai> Im just gonna set my router ip
[20:07] <Senjai> I have no idea what DNS Search servers are
[20:08] <tsimpson> DNS servers are what translates a domain name to an IP address
[20:08] <Senjai> I know that much
[20:08] <Senjai> but I dont know what DNS search servers are
[20:09] <Senjai> I connect to freenode irc via IP, just in case of these thigs
[20:09] <tsimpson> same thing, but with the word "search" put in there to make it easer to understand
[20:09] <Senjai> haha
[20:09] <Senjai> Ok lets try this again
[20:09] <Senjai> Hurrah
[20:09] <Senjai> we have DNS
[20:09]  * Senjai cheers
[20:10] <Senjai> tsimpson: thanks for all the help. Really.
[20:10] <tsimpson> you're welcome :)
[20:15] <Senjai> tsimpson:  and alas, still port 80 is closed
[20:15]  * Senjai sighs
[20:15] <tsimpson> have you checked that apache is listening, does http://localhost/ work?
[20:17] <Senjai__> tsimpson: blegh, release discconnect
[20:19] <tsimpson> check http://localhost/ works, if you can try connecting from another computer on the LAN to the IP, if both those work then you know it's the router
[20:20] <Senjai> localhost works
[20:20] <Senjai> ill try from my iphone I suppose
[20:22] <Senjai> tsimpson: Iphone can view it too
[20:22] <Senjai> I'll give my ISP a call
[20:23] <Senjai> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/V1000H/Apache.htm
[20:24] <tsimpson> you should be able to connect via the external IP too, as the router would just loop back the connection
[20:24] <tsimpson> if you can't it's likely a misconfiguration
[20:25] <Senjai> I havent touched it. It's set up to listen on 80. Default LAMP setup
[20:25] <Senjai> Ill keep digging though
[20:26] <Senjai> tsimpson: when i do an external port scan on port 80 it says its closed though
[20:27] <tsimpson> see if you can connect via your external IP though
[20:27] <tsimpson> if you can, then you know it's probably your ISP blocking port 80
[20:27] <Senjai> What do you mean, change the port its listening on?
[20:28] <tsimpson> no, I mean use http://your.external.ip.address/
[20:28] <tsimpson> rather than the internal IP
[20:28] <tsimpson> if that works, then the router is forwarding the port properly
[20:29] <tsimpson> if not, then it's not forwarding the port
[20:29] <tsimpson> so if it does work, but not from outside your LAN, it's safe to assume your ISP is filtering
[20:31] <Senjai> tsimpson: I've already tried that
[20:31] <Senjai> tsimpson: that's how I identified the problem
[20:32] <Senjai> its the main reason why I wanted to get a static ip set up and everything in the first place
[20:34] <tsimpson> well if you can't connect with the external IP from inside the LAN, it's a router problem
[20:39] <Senjai> tsimpson: yea I'm on the phone with them
[20:39] <Senjai> tsimpson: its a router specifically for that ISP (comes with TV and the like)
[20:40] <tsimpson> good luck with customer support
[20:43] <Senjai> yea
[21:18] <MySystem> hello does anybody here know something about chroot and hardlinks trieing to harlink /media to /chroot/ubuntu_x86/media but all folders listed in /chroot/ubuntu_x86/media are empty
[21:19] <MySystem> this is the fstab line from nonchroot linux "/media /chroot/ubuntu_x86/media none bind 0 0"
[21:20] <MySystem> the read right off /media and all needed contents are set for user group and other
[21:22] <tsimpson> MySystem: hard links only work within the same filesystem
[21:22] <tsimpson> you can use bind mounts instead
[21:22] <lordievader> Good evening
[21:24] <MySystem> dont know this do you have a manpafge or something where i can read how to form my command
[21:25] <MySystem> man bind right?
[21:27] <tsimpson> man mount
[21:27] <tsimpson> you use it like "mount --bind /source /chroot/source"
[21:29] <MySystem> ah ok that looks better  is it possible to at this to fstab or somewhere else to auto bind it
[21:36] <MySystem> ok sry tsimpson tried it, lookes like its the same as the ftsab entry with bind see folders of media but not the content of the other filesystems
[21:39] <tsimpson> for fstab you do "/source /chroot/source none bind 0 0", but you have to do that for all the mounts inside it too
[21:39] <tsimpson> but at least it's possible, where as hard links arent...
[21:40] <MySystem> ah ok for the folders/mounts inside media
[21:41] <tsimpson> I usually use it for /tmp /proc /dev and the like
[21:42] <MySystem> realy lots of thx the bind of the content works
[21:42] <tsimpson> no problem
[21:42] <MySystem> now i get the sentance with not over filsystems
[21:56] <nfk> i forgot, do i need to use alternate install cd if i want my / to be on lvm2?
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