[00:43] Hello peeps, daftykins : you about ?? [00:43] o/ === opensports is now known as solarcloud [00:44] Looks like it's left up to us two to Rule the channel, again :D [00:44] ..I looked into getting a 17" laptop today.. [00:45] best price was about £100 for a Core 2 Duo.... [00:45] :O [00:45] not bad [00:45] solarcloud: That's one hell of a lap [00:46] Not really, you always have 50% chance of sending it back to the seller.. [00:47] I'm after this one now .. as the other one had key Prob.s :: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fujitsu-Siemens-Amilo-Li2727-Laptop-17-inch-screen-/170983377593?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D5314456501033362947%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D290851828349%26 [00:47] soz for the long address. [00:50] he says he'll accept a buy it now offer .. what do you reckon ? ... £75 quid ??? [00:51] http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/laptops/fujitsu-siemens-amilo-li-2727-review-49298555/specs/ [00:51] was 275 when new about 4.5 years ago [00:51] opening.. [00:52] those are amazingly bad pics [00:53] solarcloud: Pretty poor spec [00:54] agreed.. I'll pass on this as I thought it was Core 2 Duo... thanx guys. [01:01] Hey guys .. So basically I've got 90 laptop to choose from (as long as they don't go above £120 end-bid, that is) from this lot :: http://goo.gl/R0g2P .. It's only for learning more python, so feel free to give it a scan to see if you see any beauties or not. thanx in advance :) [01:09] any reason you want a laptop, and what are your specs you want? [01:10] * penguin42 notices the Tesco Outlet; no horse burgers [01:14] hi penguin42, the specs are : 17" screen or more , £120 or less, Core Duo or better, must have a clear return for full refund policy. that's basically it, but the £120 or less is the killer. [01:15] I hope to sell it on after I put Ubuntu 13.04 on there.. [01:15] but that's months away.. [01:15] ouch that's a pretty low limit [01:15] plenty available though.. [01:16] it is just for learning a bit more python.. :) [01:16] Did you click the link above ... [01:16] yeh but some of them are spares/repairs - i.e. junk [01:17] Well, that's half the fun, sorting the weak from the chaff... :) [01:18] I have to say I absolutely hate Acer Aspires .. there are alwats loads of them on ebay due to problems .. [01:18] **always.. [01:20] Oops .. spotted a con job http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=160968343390 [01:20] bettr watch out for them.. [01:20] ah, I was going to suggest the Tesco acer [01:21] a few Tosh on there [01:21] I'll have a look... === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:24] solarcloud: Also are you sure you need that size screen? [01:24] the HP's look nice .. ending in 18 hours time, I'll have to hang-on and do a last 6 second bid thingy. [01:24] solarcloud: e.g. if you need the size perhaps plugin to a tv? [01:25] I think I need that screen size , why do you ask ? [01:25] I guess it restricts your options a lot [01:25] oh ok .. one problem .. I chucked out the TV last year ! .. [01:25] oh erm yeh that would be a problem [01:26] not really, 'e never looked back :D [01:26] **I've [01:27] * solarcloud puts his hands in the air as an Expression of Freedom From Tele !! [01:28] also a CRT would drop your res, not increase it ;) [01:28] \o/ [01:33] hmm, don't quite think you can buy a monitor and full machine new for #120 - bet you can do it for #200 including the monitor [01:34] yeah, I want a laptop cos it's for the small space consideration... I think I'll try this one ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Pavillion-dv9000-17-Entertainment-laptop-2-0GHz-2GB-RAM-Win-Vista-HP-/261161683012?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item3cce730844 [01:35] but if all else fails I could try my old desktop in the other room and run Lubuntu on it, I guess. [01:36] what spec is it? [01:36] The spare monitor I have got is DisplayPort and the desktop is old-type monitor cable (not HD or anything) ... so can I use an adapter or what, peeps ?? [01:37] terrible spec. it's a 2004 machine .. [01:37] displayport only? are you sure? [01:37] that's rare as rocking horse... [01:37] the monitor is yes. [01:38] I'm using three of them now.. [01:38] i hardly believe it D: [01:38] what model? [01:38] Wanna do a hangout and find out ? [01:39] nah [01:39] pity the coward, I do. [01:40] 'hangout' ? [01:41] Anyway, enough of that . I'm done for saturday .. oh wait.. yeah hangout .. I do it everyday on google plus .. it's a video conference. [01:41] but I'm sure your not interested, so bye. === solarcloud is now known as solarcloudAFK [01:42] 0o === solarcloudAFK is now known as solarcloud [01:50] Note to self : Ask Ubuntu TV people what nettop to get to try out the TV software O/S and file countless bugs :) [01:50] by for now :) === solarcloud is now known as solarcloud_AFK [05:16] Hey guys [05:16] I found a solution [05:16] I deleted all my drivers and now it works [05:17] Should I keep it this way. Which driver do I use now the open source one? [07:17] woo Half Life (1) works on Intel graphics :) [07:17] * MartijnVdS now has a proper game to play in Steam on Ubuntu :) [10:26] hi is there anybody who could help me with linux ubunt?? i am not familiar with system and tried to update but come error and they ask e for grub rescue ?? [10:26] kala087: just ask and folks may be able to help [10:26] it's kinda quiet here on a sunday [10:31] MartijnVdS: ooh, excellent *downloads* [10:40] good morning everyone, [10:47] hi has anyone have spare minute?? i have update my com yesterday and come up error and grub resue.?? i am not familair with system at all. any advuce ?? please [10:53] yes.. ask a question and leave [10:54] quite, [11:11] Is there an ubuntu equivalent for this? [11:11] http://susestudio.com [11:17] kvarley: http://ubuntustudio.org/ ? [11:17] kvarley: or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0qBaBb1Y-U ? [11:18] MartijnVdS: Lol [11:18] MartijnVdS: I meant is there a GUI based app which will let you make your own ubuntu distro [11:22] Hazzar [11:23] kvarley: you can probably use susestudio with enough hacking around. OBS supports ubuntu [11:23] ali1234: OBS? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:57] MartijnVdS: Half-Life runs flawlessly for me, which is interesting, as it required me to install nvidia-common, yet I have an AMD card. [11:59] nvidia-common is pulled in by some opengl/opencl stuff [11:59] it's just silly dependencies, there's a bug about it somewhere [12:02] ah ok, I'm just concerned as I had to uninstall all the NVidia packages yesterday to allow Unity to work properly, ali1234. [12:02] that's kind of weird [12:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741783 seems to address this. [12:31] * penguin42 wonders why translate.google.com managed to detect the polish source text, but offered me translations to Norwegianm English and Spanish (and picked Norwegian by default) [12:32] it does that to me all the time [12:32] then when you change the destination language it also changes the source language to something wrong [12:33] * penguin42 also wishes they'd integrate into G+ so that you can easily translate a single post [12:33] would be nice [12:34] integrate all the thing! [12:34] yep [12:39] hi folkies [12:40] anyone tried this? http://tomorrowcorporation.com/littleinferno [12:40] [from same stable as World of Goo] [12:44] No, but a friend gives it high praise, SuperEngineer - saw a review on youtube, it looks pretty amusing [12:45] haha that does look good; we've got a particle simulation engine and by heck we're going to use it :-) [12:45] dwatkins: cheers - got a friend who took my advice re World og Goo - now hooked & wants this as well! [13:28] oh that's a fun one; http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/02/02/225201/typing-these-8-characters-will-crash-almost-any-app-on-your-mountain-lion-mac?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [13:32] oops [14:38] hmmm - my installed 12.04 is 12.04.2 - yet download from Ubuntu still points to 12.04.1 - double hmmm [14:58] SuperEngineer: if you experienced the confused over 12.04 and 12.04.1 previously, this wouldn't be a suprise to you :p [14:58] jacobw: lol [15:34] it takes quite a few clicks from the index of ubuntu.com to find the download page now [15:39] not to mention being made to feel like a cheapskate just to get a look at what the download image version is before offering £££ [15:42] I would even go so far as saying it's a tad insulting [15:43] i think it reminds people that producing free software is not without cost [15:43] It does rather remind me of all those "Would you like the Google toolbar for IE?" things in Windows freeware installers [15:45] jacobw: agreed - but... don't profer an insult if I want to see what version you offer *before* I cough up [15:47] ...and I would like that to be taken as a constructive critism - not a complaint [16:06] [darn - really wish my fingers remembered to follow my brain when spelling!] === solarcloud_AFK is now known as solarcloud [17:18] oh god [17:18] i just realised that the cake tin i'm baking in isn't deep enough and my cake is definitely going to rise over the sides [17:19] * Laney thinks about constructing artificial sides out of foil [17:20] Laney, tht sounds potentially messy ;) wht cake is it? [17:20] chocolate beetroot [17:20] nice [17:21] every time i look it's closer [17:21] and i dont have enough foil arghghgosudhgosdhg [17:21] could put it on baking sheet just in case ;) [17:21] so it doesn't wreck the oven [17:21] did [17:21] yeesh beetroot [17:21] but i want to save the cake too if possible [17:23] could put another tin of similar size upside down on top lol...gonna have to think of something out of the box (or cake tin hehe) [17:25] yeah i put the outside of another tin over it [17:25] who knows what will happen [17:26] only one way to find out ;) [18:08] question, would it be possible, to use something like a ssh tunnel, between my rpi and my vps? and have traffic able to flow both ways? [18:12] brobostigon, i can't see why not , a pi is just another linux box [18:12] zleap: i just havent found a simple enough solution yet, i have read about vpn's and ssh tunnels and other solutions also. [18:14] ok [18:14] can you do it between 2 normal linux boxes [18:14] ssh, yes, [18:15] ok [18:16] so what is the VPN virtual private network, so basically you want a secure link between 2 or more computers [18:16] yes. [18:16] same as an ssh tunnel. [18:17] ok [18:17] more or less, [18:18] brobostigon: run openvpn on your vps and use a tap device [18:18] i am not an expert at this, but i am guessing it should be possible as te PI is just running Linux, maybe ask on #raspberrypi o [18:18] tap device [18:18] ? [18:18] jacobw: that is what i have been looking at, [18:19] you could use openvpn [18:20] yeah, if you use openvpn with a tap device you'll get an interface with a routeable address on pi and on the vps [18:21] ah. i see, that could be useful. [18:22] sorry, tun, not tap [18:22] tap is l2, tun is l3 [18:24] ? [18:24] https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/BridgingAndRouting [18:24] * zleap is baffled [18:25] ah vpn stuff, i thought for a min you were talking about people [18:25] jacobw: yes, thats what i am reading, [18:27] zleap: tap and tun devices are virtual network devices in the kernel, openvpn can give you an ethernet→ethernet adapter to send frames through which is a tap device or a network→network adapter which is a tun device to send packets through [18:29] ok [18:30] i dunno how i could have been talking about people o_O [18:30] its fine, didn't know what tap and tun was [18:31] jacobw: ok, question, is it possible to do the authentication without certificates? [18:38] brobostigon: you can use a preshared key or usernames and passwords [18:38] jacobw: ah, i think i just found a page on the openvpn site about it. [18:40] remember you don't have to use passphrases on keys, you can leave them unwrapped and readable only by the system user to be used by services [18:41] interesting, [18:47] AlanBell: are your ears burning? [18:47] http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/ [18:47] your blog post being talked about [18:48] #jupiterbroadcasting on irc.geekshed.net [20:35] hi popey [20:35] hello [20:36] what is jupiter broadcasting? [20:57] AlanBell: podcast [20:57] Linux Action Show [20:58] ah, that has a reddit thing, I got some hits from that to the blog article [21:10] Hola [21:11] moo [21:11] How do? [21:12] meh [21:12] That good eh? :) [21:13] Having had the week off, I should be feeling quite relaxed [21:13] Instead I'm just thinking about tomorrow morning [21:20] Headphones in, code up. Hayley is catching up on Dancing on Ice [21:51] hello JohnRobert [22:23] hello [22:25] BigRedS_: back home? [23:24] popey, yeah [23:25] well, back in London, my soon-to-be home again :) [23:48] ADORABLE KITTEN ALERT! Rub ivanova's tummy, she grabs at your hand & starts to lick [23:49] ;)