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Kiloshi zeref Vince-0 09:35
Vince-0Hi!09:35
Kilosyou clever hey09:35
Kiloshow do i mount a drive as root from livecd?09:35
Kilosneed to do repairs09:35
Kilossudo mount /dev/sda1 gives like man pages09:38
Vince-0hey?09:38
Kilosalso get no such devce in fstab09:38
Kilosgrrr09:38
Vince-0mount needs two options - device and destination path09:38
Vince-0and sometimes the -t option to tell it the FS type09:39
Kilosexplain please09:39
Vince-0eg:09:39
Vince-0mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/FOLDER09:39
Kilosoh09:40
Symmetrialo all09:40
Vince-0Hi09:40
Kiloshi Symmetria 09:40
Symmetriakilos did you get a response from fanie?09:40
Kilosoh ya he is looking into finding a better way09:40
SymmetriaI suspect though that things at UFS are going to be rather insane in the next while, after the GS / Anonymous shit people there are a little busy freaking out09:41
Kilosyou shoulda got him to cc the mail to me to you as well09:41
Kiloslemme get his mail and send it to you09:41
Symmetriaheh in looking at security stuff, Im trying to explain to people, that its a two fold exercise09:43
Symmetriasecuring hosts without securing the network = useless, and vice versa09:43
Symmetriaand securing a network is... a bitch :)09:44
Vince-0I read about all those leaks09:44
Vince-0not exactly incriminating evidence09:45
Symmetriaheh vince, its an interesting situation, I've been following it incredibly closely09:45
Symmetriawhat you've got right now its two seperate groups09:45
Symmetriaboth claiming association with an over-arching meta-group09:45
Symmetriawho have totally different ethos and ways of doing things09:45
Vince-0I saw that - not exacly ANONYMOUS is it - the data isn't exactly incriminating or to the point of making any impact09:46
Symmetriaheh, you've got GS and the people associated with them who are kinda... the lulsec of anonymous 09:46
Symmetriaand you've got the other side, who wants to stick to a very strict ethos and very strict targets and belief systems09:46
Symmetriathe one side is *HIGHLY* political, the other is kids screwing around09:46
Symmetriaheh, though the kids have skills, a lot of them09:47
Kilosmailed you 3 Symmetria 09:47
Symmetriaand the dudes on the political side, very clearly know something about politics, pr and public perception and know how to use it09:47
Symmetrialooking now kilos09:48
Kiloshe seems helpful though09:48
Vince-0I kinda gathered that - hacking public websites and claiming big reprocussions without actually delivering any impact. Its not like those sites that got hacked were very security oriented with sensitive info09:48
Symmetriakilos *nod*09:48
Symmetriaheh vince, which makes me question the whole GS association as well09:49
Symmetriabecause GS looking back at their history typically doesn't target low security easy targets09:49
Symmetria(GS is known for hitting interpol)09:49
Symmetriabeen kinda fascinating to track this though, in many ways its similar to shit I saw in the mid to late 90s09:50
Symmetriawhere there was a split between the blackhats and the grey/white hats09:51
Symmetriawith people like hotmetal, logik, kodekat on the one side, and various on the other09:51
Vince-0aah09:51
Symmetriabut its *FAR* more political, I mean, have you seen the videos released by OpSouthAfrica?09:51
Symmetriaand their PR campaign?09:51
Symmetriahttp://anonrelations.net/opsouthafrica-official-pr-1036/ <=== found that via twitter09:52
Kilosso vince how do i get to /dev/sda1 command line09:54
Kilosi want to go in as root not to a folder09:54
Vince-0Kilos, check fdisk -l to see whats there09:54
Vince-0not sure about the live environment09:54
Vince-0very interesting Symmetria - have you made any articles yourself about any of this? It seems the general public here don't have a clue and the tech journal sites are lacking09:55
Kilos/dev/sda1 +2 +5 which is swap09:55
Symmetriaheh vince Im kinda staying outta this, tracking it from afar for various reasons09:56
Vince-0Do you have a direct stake in what was exposed?09:57
Symmetrianah09:57
Symmetriait's more a case of I can't afford association with certain things09:57
Vince-0I appreaciate the OpSA apology - more people need to read this09:57
Symmetriavince, I found this even more interesting09:57
Symmetriahttp://www.anonpaste.me/anonpaste2/index.php?a9ca41306d8c4ab7#GTo0D7Wvq3S0e08lCcZS4Nr1vKXR8rdoJYKXcuFltyQ=09:58
Vince-0I'm not suggesting association but rather education - seems you know more that the general public should know09:58
Vince-0nice! keep em coming - maybe I'll put something together09:58
Symmetriaand based on that above one, it would seem the one doesn't seem all that interested in hacking shit, but more about rallying people (similar to what has been done with Anon Egypt and Anon Tunisia)09:58
SymmetriaI mean, Anon Egypt actually broke into very little, they simply provided ways to get information in and out and bypass internet shutdown and censorship09:59
Symmetriavince, there is a movie out09:59
Symmetrialemme find what its called10:00
Vince-0think I've seen it10:00
Symmetriahttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt2177843/?ref_=fn_al_tt_110:00
Symmetriathat one10:00
Symmetriaheh, its a fascinating watch10:00
KilosSymmetria, can ufs afford the TB we will need10:01
Symmetriakilos yes10:01
Symmetria;p10:01
Kilosyay\10:01
Vince-0oh yar, I've watched that We Are Legion10:01
Symmetriaheh fascinating article that10:02
Symmetriaarticle/movie10:02
Symmetriaheh kilos ufs is also about to buy more disk space10:03
Symmetriaa lot more10:03
Symmetriasome very expensive disk space10:03
Kiloswonderful10:03
Symmetriaand Im thinking that some of the old stuff might then be moved into the mirroring systems10:03
Kilosthen us 3g peeps can do daily builds as well10:04
Kilos80% saving on data use will be lekker10:04
SymmetriaVince-0 heh, the funny thing is, you say I know more than most, thats only because people haven't gone looking, I mean, this stuff is ALL over twitter10:04
Symmetriaand the chat lines being used etc aren't hard to find, the only complication in getting to a lot of it is having to TOR 10:05
Symmetriaand TOR is slow as shit 10:05
Vince-0ah, yes10:05
Symmetriaheh I saw another interesting tool the other day floating around which is even more secure than tor, well, its kinda, tor via tor10:06
Symmetriabasically identifies tor nodes in a coupla countries, very distinct from each other, and establishes almost a form of tunnel through them10:07
Vince-0well its all over the place so it's not in a concise place on a highly visible news site - looks like the tech journalists here do half a job reporting an ongoing story10:07
Symmetriaso instead of bouncing outta a random tor node 10:07
Symmetriavince heh, yeah, except the journalists I think, don't really know how to report on this10:07
Vince-0yup! 10:07
Symmetriaso few people actually understand what anonymous is, and its such a completely different concept, that reporting on it is... hard10:08
Symmetriaprobably the best synopsis of what anon is was an article written on wired10:08
* Symmetria finds it10:08
Symmetriahttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/ff_anonymous/10:09
Vince-0OK, I'd like to put an article together sometime. I'll check your links - thanks10:09
Symmetriathats a very very good article10:09
Vince-0there is always very little local context to this sort of thing10:09
Vince-0maybe there's a journalist who will take notes and publish something10:10
KilosSymmetria, did you read that third mail. quite a business getting an official server with ubuntu hey?10:27
Kilosnot the mail the link in it10:28
Symmetriahrm10:51
SymmetriaI gotta go buy a new cpu cooler tomorrow10:51
Symmetriadamn thing is overheating when I load it so something aint right10:51
Symmetriaheh not much seriously loads this cpu but when I need to, the cooling problems are becoming a real pain10:52
Symmetriaman, this software is just, some of the most awesome stuff ever11:17
Symmetria(adobe after effects)11:22
Symmetriamannnn12:00
Vince-0the man?12:00
Symmetriahahaha I been playing with a combination of photoshop12:01
Symmetriaafter effects12:01
Symmetriaand premiere12:01
Symmetriaand you can do some really nifty stuff12:01
Vince-0no gimp?12:01
Symmetriaheh, gimp is not at the level of the tools yet, seriously12:01
Symmetriayou can do *SOME* of the photoshop stuff in gimp, but limited12:02
Symmetriathe moment you start into the video side, that requires something else, adn there arent any serious video production tools that I know of for linux12:02
Symmetriaheh after effects / premiere pro for video editing, I'd say there is nothing better12:03
Symmetriaespecially when you wanna start taking various pieces and putting them on top of each other and merging them while applying hardcore effects12:03
Vince-0true - they've had good, continuous commercial dev12:03
Symmetriathe only problem with doing any of this, if you don't have the hardware to support it, don't even bother, it *strains* my machine when I start getting complicated12:04
Symmetriaand if its straining this machine, I don't wanna know what it would do on your average desktop12:04
Symmetria(I'm using a machine with a 6 core i7 cpu, 64gigs of ram, and a gtx 690 video card for hardware rendering)12:04
Vince-0jeez12:05
Symmetriaheh, it uses 48 gigs of ram working with a 10 minute video clip12:05
Symmetriaand the moment you hit render to put it all together, every cpu core is totally maxed out and the gpu is working overtime12:05
Vince-0dayam, at least it uses all the cores12:07
Symmetriaheh basically, it will use every resource your machine can throw at it 12:07
deegee_1hi all12:09
Symmetriaheh I switched to my secondary machine because of cooling problems in my primary 12:11
Symmetriagotta get a new cpu cooler :(12:11
SymmetriaProcessor Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz12:12
SymmetriaName: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 68012:12
Symmetriastill has 64gigs of ram though12:13
Vince-0yoh yoh - give me the old one12:13
Symmetriahehe I use both12:13
Vince-0I game a bit on the old i7 , Gefore560ti - handles most12:13
Symmetriarunning the 680 video card and the 3.2ghz cpu in this one12:13
Symmetriawith 4 x 27" monitors on it12:13
Symmetriathen 4 x 27" on the other one and only difference is its got a 690 video card and a slightly faster cpu12:14
Symmetriaheh the wall in my room is a bank of monitors12:14
Vince-0are you a designer?12:14
Symmetriaheh nah, Im a network geek, I just like my toys12:14
Symmetriaand love my desktop real estate so I can have a gazillion routers, graphs and other things open at the same time12:14
Vince-0nice, me2 but only two 23" monitors12:15
Symmetriabiggest issue with more than 2 monitors is the price of the cards to drive them at proper res12:16
Symmetriathe moment you move to 4 screens if you're planning on driving em hard you need a fancy card, and the video cards start to get *REAL* expensive at that level12:16
Vince-0work gets done on a 15" Dell XPS - Fedora with 4 virtual desktops and lots of windows. I find the Gnome3 UI quite productive12:16
Symmetria(my 690 video card was over 10 grand when I bought it)12:17
Vince-0sheeesh - thats dedication - what desktop environment?12:17
Symmetriadepends, I multi-boot, generally Im either using os-x or windows 7, I keep linux for my servers 12:17
Vince-0aah12:18
Symmetriaheh preference is os-x but getting it to run on non-apple hardware can be a bitch12:18
Vince-0there has been a bit of a mix-up on the Linux desktop environments lately - I test a few for work purposes12:18
Symmetriaand *laugh* I aint prepared to spend the kinda money I'd need to to convert to a complete apple setup12:18
Vince-0that's some over priced hardware12:20
Vince-0at least you're getting bang for your buck with a 69012:20
Vince-0did you see those special edition ATI hybrid cooling gfx cards - yoh12:21
Symmetriaheh ATI and nvidia are always competing, but last I saw, the 690 still kicked the crap outta the ati12:21
Vince-0I do prefer Nvidia - trying to find a link to these ATIs - apparently making only 1000 or something12:23
Symmetrialol, I have nothing other than toys to spend my money on, so I have a habit of just buying whatever is latest as it comes out12:24
Vince-0GTX690 is right up there12:26
Symmetriayea its a beautiful card12:27
Symmetrialol, my dog chasing hardidars is so funny12:51
Symmetriashe sees them in the yard and takes off chasing em, they get a fright and start flying away making a helluva a noise, she freaks out at the noise and looks all confused12:52
Vince-0http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/69668-anonymous-sa-denies-link-to-ghostshell-hackers.html12:52
Vince-0those birds make the biggest kaks on my car12:52
Symmetriawow they are late on the uptake of that stuff12:52
Vince-0from M&G12:53
Symmetriaheh there are factual inaccuracies in that article though12:55
Symmetriathere is no such thing as anonymous south africa for one thing12:55
Symmetriaanonymous doesnt work like that, it divides into operations12:56
Vince-0nabs, 12:59
Vince-0we need better (tech) journalists12:59
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XethronGreetings15:30
Cantidehi15:31
Kilosohi Xethron 15:31
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za15:31
Kiloshi Cantide 15:31
XethronKilos: read a lot about you15:32
Xethronor, rather, previous logs of you :P15:32
Kilosoh my. all bad i hope15:32
Kiloshehe15:32
Kiloswhere did you read it??15:32
Kilosoh those15:32
Kiloswhere are you Xethron 15:33
XethronPretoria15:33
Kiloswow down the road15:33
XethronHeard about tomorrow nights meeting15:33
Xethronthought I'll give it a go15:33
XethronReading the previous logs to see if its worth it15:33
Kilosits always worth it to visit us15:34
Xethronhaha15:34
Xethronof course you would say that15:34
Xethron:P15:34
Kilosbetter to always be here and help guys15:34
Kilosi dont think we are having a meet tomorrow night15:35
Kilosour monthly is on the 18th15:35
Cantidei was about to ask :D15:35
Xethronoh yea15:35
Xethronsoz15:35
Cantidebecause it seems like just yesterday that we had one15:35
Kiloswhat client are you using?15:35
XethronI knew its a monday, just not sure which monday :P15:35
Kilos3rd monday of the month15:36
Xethronso I'm two weeks early15:36
Kilosthis one should beinteresting i think15:36
XethronIf I'm gonne attend, its going to me Awesome!15:36
Kilosyeah now you can get used to us and not be a stranger in paradise on the 18th15:36
Xethronhaha15:36
Xethronoh and Maaz is also here :)15:37
Kilostell us about yourself15:37
Xethronlol15:37
XethronMy name is steve, and I'm a pirate!15:37
Symmetriaurgh15:37
CantideKilos, what will make this meeting awesome?'-';15:37
Kiloswelcome steve you seem to know irc well15:37
Symmetriasomeone do me a favour and gimme a shell command to split a 24000 line long file into files of a thousand lines long each15:37
Symmetriaso I can make 24 thousand line long files15:37
XethronMaaz: I am Bernhard Breytenbach15:38
MaazXethron: Sorry...15:38
Xethron:(15:38
Kilosthere should be some talk about activism15:38
Kiloslol he only registers names when in meeting mode Xethron 15:38
XethronKilos: I'm a PHP developer, currently using Linux Mint15:38
Kilosyou still welcome here. what took you so long to get here15:39
Xethronhaha15:39
XethronI also made a IRC bot a while ago15:39
XethronThen lost interest and now it deid15:40
Kiloswe need maaz here he does so much15:40
KilosMaaz, coffee on15:40
* Maaz flips the salt-timer15:40
XethronWhat is he coded in?15:40
Kilospython15:40
Kiloscalled ibid15:41
XethronNice15:41
XethronMine was Ruby15:41
Kiloswritten by our guys15:41
Kilosmaintained and upgraded by the weed15:41
XethronI saw Ruby on Rails has a huge security loophole...15:41
Kilosthe big noises here are python peeps amongst other duties15:42
Xethronah. Need to get into Python :/15:43
Kiloswe got some mint guys too that didnt like unity15:43
XethronHave a project I need to do, but its coded in Python...15:43
Kilosbyteofpython is the book to read to start if im not mistook15:43
XethronBut I've never really dived in to it too deeply15:44
* Xethron Googles it15:44
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!15:44
Kilosall my python knowledge is the help from the guys15:44
KilosMaaz, ty15:44
MaazYou are welcome Kilos15:44
Kiloshi superfly tell him about python15:45
XethronSo Kilos: Tell me about yourself :P15:45
XethronHmm... Lag spikes :(15:45
Kiloslol you read the blog didnt you15:46
Symmetriaso anyone got a decent script line tod ot hat?15:46
Symmetriato do that I mean15:46
Kilosthat was long ago. its gone now15:46
KilosSymmetria, wait till they get over weekend rest mode15:46
Kilostheyll be here tonight15:47
XethronScript to do what?15:47
KilosXethron, what do you want to know?15:47
Kilos<Symmetria> someone do me a favour and gimme a shell command to split a 24000 line long file into files of a thousand lines long each15:47
Kilos<Symmetria> so I can make 24 thousand line long files15:47
Vince-0Symmetria, simple bash15:47
Vince-0split15:48
Vince-0first page on stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3066948/how-to-file-split-at-a-line-number15:48
XethronKilos: Where you from, What you doing?15:50
Kilosim in pretoria onna plot to the west15:50
Kiloshelp out on sisters plot but otherwise semi disabled15:50
XethronIf you want it really simple, yet ineffective, Maybe loop the string till you come to 1000 then enter a new line, and then loop again. :P15:51
XethronKilos: semi?15:51
Kilosyeah bust head open and brains ram out and got eina 24/715:51
Kilosonly hurts bad when i think15:52
Kiloshehe15:52
Kilosotherwise i play with old pcs and do what i can with data recovery and drive repairs that ms has killed for my son15:53
Vince-0used Spinrite?16:00
Symmetrialol thanks16:03
Symmetriathat was simple16:03
Kilosoh sorry Vince-0 didnt know that was for me. use testdisk photorec scalpel and one other i forget now16:08
Vince-0oh k I know those16:09
Kilosi see it has to be purchased16:09
Kilosi use free stuff16:09
Kilosis spinright a linux tool Vince-0 ?16:10
Vince-0its worth it - preboot tool for partition recovery etc16:10
Vince-0yeah it preboots as far as I remember16:10
Kilosi have supergrub and ubcd as well and a few drive specific tools16:11
Vince-0im sure the other tools have most of the spinrite features16:11
Kilosubcd is good too if you work it right16:11
Kilosand sometimes do fixmbr and fixboot with xp16:13
Kilosand 98 fdisk /mbr16:13
* not_found appears16:14
Kiloshi not_found you not missing anymore16:14
not_found:) hi uncle Kilos 16:15
not_foundmight still be16:15
Kiloswe got php help if he visits more often16:15
Kilosi know most here avoid it16:15
KilosXethron, you should get involved with our community man16:17
Kiloswe dont chase mint peeps16:17
Squirmback in Natal16:21
Squirmwork tomorrow :/16:21
Kilosgood16:22
Kiloswbb16:28
Symmetria*sigh*16:46
Symmetriapeople dying in egypt protests, sucks16:46
Vince-0how many?16:49
Symmetriano idea, I just saw the tweets though to say another anon killed at those protests16:49
not_foundnight17:21
Kilossleep tight not_found 17:21
zerefherro17:48
Kiloshi zeref 17:51
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:13
smilehi :)18:35
smilebye :)19:29
smilegood night19:30

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