[00:00] <dr_willis> the stick is probably mounted where root has rights. not users
[00:00] <user___> How do I run gksu nautilus
[00:00] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah with the new sshd_config file it runs fine
[00:00] <Gumby> nicekiwi: get the ssh server working first, then worry about locking it dow
[00:00] <Gumby> n
[00:00] <Physicist> dr_willis: Yes! You are.
[00:00] <whjms> user___: alt+f2, then type it in. or you type that into your terminal
[00:00] <dr_willis> type it in a terminal user___
[00:01] <Gumby> nicekiwi: check /var/log/syslog for errors after replacing the edited sshd_config and restarting ssh
[00:01] <dr_willis> Physicist:  great. do i get paid?
[00:01] <user___> That gave me full access.
[00:02] <dr_willis> user___:  close that nautilus window when done... it can be dangerous....
[00:02] <ftruzzi> anyone knows how to set up VNC so that the unity starts? the default xstartup script only displays a grey screen, nothing inside it
[00:03] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... on a 64 bit system ... is it still recommeded to install the 32bit ubunutu ?
[00:03] <jrib> cobra-the-joker: I would recommend 64bit ubuntu on a 64bit system
[00:03] <Gumby> cobra-the-joker: how much ram do you have?
[00:03] <dr_willis> i reccimend 64 but
[00:03] <dr_willis> bit
[00:04] <Gumby> if you're low on ram install 32bit.  if you have lots, use 64bit
[00:04] <cobra-the-joker> Gumby: 2GB
[00:04] <bel3atar> no PAE in ubuntu?
[00:05] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: best to use a light desktop with vnc.  unity will have issues and be slow
[00:05] <dr_willis> bel3atar: pae is default in 12.10+
[00:05] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: the problem is that NOTHING is displayed
[00:05] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: which vnc sever?
[00:06] <nicekiwi> Gumby, there are some messages there, but non relating to SSH
[00:06] <Gumby> nicekiwi: after re-starting ssh with the custom config?
[00:06] <genoobie> okay, i've got 12.04 lubuntu running, having issues with flash / chromium but that's not unique
[00:06] <bel3atar> I wan't to assist a friend maybe via VNC, but she's firewalled. Any easy trick to solve this?
[00:06] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: vncserver4 idk if it has a something under it
[00:06] <nicekiwi> Gumby, with the old one, ssh wont start
[00:07] <genoobie> however, someone suggested that the video driver might be part of the problem
[00:07] <nicekiwi> with the new installed one, it runs file
[00:07] <dr_willis> ftruzzi: you edited the. vnc/xstartup to run what you want?
[00:07] <Gumby> nicekiwi: exactly.  check the logs to see why :)
[00:07] <pvl1> quick q, anyone know of a better pdf read than xpdf
[00:07] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: the problem is the xstartup config, there is no working setup on the internet, I tryed from classic gnome to unity , nothing works
[00:07] <dr_willis>     .vnc/xstartup
[00:08] <Gumby> nicekiwi: or, stop ssh (service ssh stop) then put your custom config in, and start ssh by doing /usr/bin/sshd   hopefully that will show something on the screen as to why it wont start
[00:08] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah I did. but theres nothing relating to ssh there asfar as i can see
[00:08] <nicekiwi> k
[00:08] <dr_willis> ftruzzi:  just have it run xterm &    and a minimal window manager as a test
[00:08] <genoobie> bbl
[00:08] <genoobie> going to try puppylinux
[00:08] <dr_willis> eww
[00:08] <dr_willis> ;-)
[00:08] <genoobie> well, can't get *ntu to work
[00:09] <bel3atar> genoobie: what cpu?
[00:09] <genoobie> at least not well and puppy linux has a version that can use untu packages
[00:09] <genoobie> PIII 800
[00:09] <nicekiwi> Gumby, hmm maybe they were related.. ssh: Could not resolve hostname restart: Name or service not known
[00:09] <dr_willis> theres a puppy for legacy hardware..
[00:10] <genoobie> dr_willis, you mean wary?
[00:10] <dr_willis> its not the ubuntu varant
[00:10] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: it opens a xterm, as expected but launch everything from xstartup or from xterm is pain in the ass
[00:11] <dr_willis> ftruzzi:  now have it just run the term.. exec xterm       with no wm.   then try the other desktops
[00:11] <Gumby> nicekiwi: that isnt always a fatal error.
[00:11] <dr_willis> start them from the xterm.. looking for error messages
[00:12] <ftruzzi> dr_willis: i siad the xterm is working, but i want a wm
[00:12] <nicekiwi> Gumby, true..
[00:12] <Gumby> nicekiwi: I suggest replacing the unmodified config and then begin working on fixing the modified one.  Something you have changed in it is not corrrect
[00:12] <dr_willis> so launch one..
[00:13] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah :/ but what
[00:14] <Gumby> lol... buffering
[00:15] <itatitat> guys, Im having a problem
[00:15] <bel3atar> itatitat: format that pc and it's gonna be alright
[00:15] <itatitat> I need to see a file, in a folder .ssh, hidden, but from the user jenkins, I cannot see with my normal user, is in local
[00:15] <nicekiwi> Gumby, weirdly it seems to be working now with the modified config
[00:15] <itatitat> XD
[00:15] <Gumby> nicekiwi: hrm
[00:15] <Gumby> did you restart ssh?
[00:16] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yesh
[00:16] <itatitat> nono, I need to see a config file
[00:16] <bel3atar> itatitat: you don't have root access?
[00:16] <nicekiwi> Gumby, only this is when I login with the non-root user i get this "-sh: 28: [[: not found" and bash dosnt run properly
[00:16] <dr_willis> itatitat:  can you see it from the terminal?
[00:16] <itatitat> no!, that the strange, I made sudo cd blablabla , and the output was: "cd is not a command"
[00:16] <nicekiwi> (after i login)
[00:16] <nearst> dr_willis, ur using ati ?
[00:16] <itatitat> im using terminal, I see it
[00:16] <dr_willis> sudo cd      is pointless
[00:17] <bel3atar> itatitat: copy it somewhere where you can see it
[00:17] <itatitat> yes..............then how can I see that file?
[00:17] <itatitat> jummmmmmmmm.................but is there something more direct?
[00:17] <dr_willis> itatitat:  in nautilus you mean?
[00:17] <itatitat> for now im using dolphin
[00:17] <Gumby> nicekiwi: did you also modify the users .profile or .bashrc or something like that?
[00:17] <dr_willis> itatitat: use the show hidden files option.....
[00:17] <nicekiwi> Gumby, i modfied the roots /.profile to autostart ssh-agennt
[00:18] <bel3atar> itatitat: ctrl+h
[00:18] <itatitat> yes, im using it, but I dont see anything inside that folder....
[00:18] <itatitat> I should be something
[00:18] <bel3atar> itatitat: lol?
[00:18] <dr_willis> try a different file manager
[00:18] <itatitat> yes, just now, trying to acces with dolphin, I see "could not enter folder /var/lib/aoibaoidsjraosijdf"
[00:18] <nicekiwi> Gumby, wow no, i modified the non-root users dir
[00:18] <itatitat> jummmmmmmm, ok
[00:19] <dr_willis> or just use the terminal...
[00:19] <bel3atar> itatitat: what does this command output: ls -a .ssh
[00:19] <usr13> itatitat: What are you looking for?  .ssh ?      ls -la .s*
[00:20] <itatitat> ooooooooooooh, with konqueror again the same
[00:20] <itatitat> ok, let me try that command
[00:20] <itatitat> permission denied
[00:20] <Gumby> nicekiwi: not sure of that error. could be many things I assume.  I'm not an ssh expert. check if the same error shows if you log in locally via the VPS web console
[00:20] <whjms> itatitat: try ls -l to check permissions on the folder
[00:20] <usr13> itatitat: But it is more-than-likely a directory.  So:   ls .ssh/
[00:21] <nicekiwi> Gumby, nvm. removed the custom script. no error now
[00:21] <itatitat> jum............I made sudo ls -a .ssh/
[00:21] <itatitat> but in the result I dont see anything
[00:21] <bel3atar> itatitat: boot with a live cd and you will be able to access all the files
[00:21] <itatitat> XD
[00:21] <usr13> itatitat: Yes.  You see?  It is a directory.
[00:22] <whjms> itatitat: is it empty?
[00:22] <itatitat> yes, I know is a folder
[00:22] <itatitat> but I think is empty because I havent permissions
[00:22] <nearst> ls -al ?
[00:22] <usr13> itatitat: Ok.  So what is it you are trying to do?
[00:22] <Gryffin> hi, am in persistence mode and is having some problem with mounting. Any takers?
[00:22] <itatitat> mmmmmmmmmmm..............................first, I dont know why I cannot see the content of a folder
[00:23] <usr13> Gryffin: Discribe your problem, maybe we can help.
[00:23] <itatitat> I tried with sudo, and changing tu root user, but nothing, root user is like "disabled"?, the password doesn work, perhaps is unabled
[00:23] <itatitat> I need to check that
[00:23] <usr13> itatitat: I don't know why you can't see it either.  What seems to be the problem?
[00:23] <Gryffin> I'm booting from USB and is in persistence mode.
[00:23] <Gumby> nicekiwi: get that custom conf fixed up and you're good to go :)
[00:23] <Gryffin> The icons for my windows drives shows up..
[00:23] <nicekiwi> how do I setup bash config for a new user, tab completion, colours etc
[00:23] <bel3atar> itatitat: try sudo su
[00:24] <itatitat> when I try to see with the browser (dolphin, konqueror) or konsole, I cannot see the content
[00:24] <nicekiwi> Gumby, yeah.. it seems to be working now
[00:24] <itatitat> ok
[00:24] <whjms> itatitat: 'root' is disabled by default in ubuntu. i believe it's for safety purposes
[00:24] <Gryffin> but when I double-click i get an error saying
[00:24] <itatitat> wow!; genious, that's working
[00:24] <itatitat> thanks a lot
[00:24] <itatitat> ls
[00:24] <whjms> nicekiwi: complete -cf [command] will enable completion on commands and files. -c = commands, -f = files
[00:24] <nearst> !sudo
[00:24] <usr13> itatitat: If it is in your home directory, I doubt that it is owned by another user.  ls -ld .ssh/
[00:25] <Brave> irc.akran.net
[00:25] <Gryffin> Adding read ACL for uid 999 failed- operation not supported
[00:25] <gelph> whjms: although, to become root and *stay* root simply "sudo -i" with no command
[00:25] <whjms> gelph: huh. cool!
[00:25] <Gryffin> usr13: Did u get that? I can repeat if you like
[00:25] <pvl1> Gryffin, are u running as root
[00:25] <nicekiwi> whjms, sweet
[00:25] <serodronin> whats the best audioplayer for flac audio in ubuntu?
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: just installed the coded
[00:26] <Gryffin> root??
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: just installed the codec
[00:26] <bel3atar> serodronin: or vlc
[00:26] <nicekiwi> whjms, wait what? how do i use that?
[00:26] <Gryffin> no
[00:26] <Gryffin> i guess not
[00:26] <pvl1> Gryffin, nevermind, gimme a minuet
[00:26] <usr13> Gryffin: If you say it all at once, it will be easier,  (wont be scattered all over).
[00:26] <whjms> nicekiwi: that'll be in your ~/.bashrc or your ~/.bash_config
[00:26] <Gryffin> okay sure.
[00:26] <Francisco_Favaro> Hi...
[00:27] <usr13> Gryffin: In other words, don't use Enter for punctuation.
[00:27] <whjms> nicekiwi: also, colored ls: "alias ls='ls --color=auto'"
[00:28] <pvl1> Gryffin, http://askubuntu.com/questions/202630/cant-mount-any-partition-acl-error
[00:28] <nicekiwi> whjms, hmm that stuff is in my .bashrc file , but its not working
[00:28] <pvl1> Gryffin, when you open a terminal, what user are you running as
[00:28] <Gryffin> mint
[00:28] <lasers> nicekiwi: Search for "color" -- You may have to uncomment something.
[00:29] <jrib> nicekiwi: how did you create this new user?  Did you use "adduser" by any chance?
[00:29] <lasers> nicekiwi: And then do "source ~/.bashrc"
[00:29] <gelph> nicekiwi be sure to put it last because when it loads the system bashrc it changes the ls alias
[00:29] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  or you are not using bash.. for some reason.
[00:29] <whjms> nicekiwi: what's not working? colors or completion?
[00:29] <nicekiwi> whjms, both
[00:29] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  try echo $SHELL
[00:29] <MarKsaitis> "getent: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP serv" .... but getent works absolutely fine when I do it manually, any help?
[00:29] <whjms> nicekiwi: what does 'echo $SHELL' give ya?
[00:29] <whjms> oops
[00:30] <nicekiwi> whjms, /bin/sh
[00:30] <nearst> o0o
[00:30] <dr_willis>  there ya go...   this is on a vpn or somthing nicekiwi ?
[00:30] <dr_willis> or vps..
[00:31] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, yeah. over ssh
[00:31] <whjms> nicekiwi: let's try autocompletion first. what command do you want to complete
[00:31] <dr_willis> thats why then
[00:31] <dr_willis> its defaultinmg to sh not bassh
[00:31] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, oh.. the root user has command completion etc
[00:31] <dr_willis> just run bash
[00:31] <dr_willis> and this user will also....
[00:31] <jrib> nicekiwi: you probably used "useradd" but should have used "adduser" to create your user
[00:31] <nicekiwi> jr oh
[00:31] <burner> can anyone help me get compiz to work?  I usually use xfce, but I've been wanting to try the default ubuntu desktop and I can't get compiz to work.  I created a .desktop file on my desktop to launch "openbox --replace" so I can at least have a window manager when I pick the ubuntu session, but I really want to a dash and compiz
[00:32] <whjms> dr_willis: isn't /bin/sh a symlink to the user's default shell, though?
[00:32] <jrib> whjms: sh links to dash on ubuntu by default
[00:32] <dr_willis> whjms:  definatly not
[00:32] <Guest5412> i'd like to remove format from the usb context menu in the unity dock
[00:32] <whjms> hrm
[00:32] <nearst> ls -al /bin/sh -> dash
[00:32] <nicekiwi> jrib, remove the user and re-add with adduser?
[00:33] <Gryffin> Just to be clear, mine is a mint distro, I installed it for first time in persistence mode on usb stick, and booted, now I cannot open my windows hard drives. When try to open in the file explorer, am getting an error saying Adding read ACL for uid 999 to '/media/mint' failed. Operation not supported
[00:33] <jrib> nicekiwi: sure.  Or if you feel confident, you can just change the shell with "chsh"
[00:33] <nicekiwi> jrib, nawh :P
[00:33] <whjms> nearst: what is 'dash'? debian shell?
[00:33] <jrib> !info dash
[00:33] <gelph> whjms it's a smaller bash
[00:33] <lasers> whjms: dash is fast. Useful for booting. When it's interactive shell, it's usually bash (or whatever you prefer).
[00:33] <nearst> default shell for ubuntu installation
[00:34] <Guest5412> when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <Guest5412>  when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <Guest5412>  when i plug in a usb memory stick,on the usb icons context menu i'd like to remove the format option
[00:34] <gelph> Guest5412 why?
[00:34] <dr_willis> we herd you the first 5 time guest54
[00:35] <pavel989> Gryffin, are you able to follow the directions in the website
[00:35] <Guest5412> how do i do it
[00:35] <dr_willis> id say check askubuntu,com - they may know how..
[00:35] <gelph> Guest5412 if you can read/write files and dirs, why not allow format?  seems almost the same thing
[00:35] <Guest5412> so that i dont accedentally click
[00:35] <dr_willis> err... thats a silly reason..
[00:35] <nearst> remove format option.. hmm
[00:36] <gelph> Guest5412 "drive slower to avoid a car wreck?"
[00:36] <whjms> heh
[00:36] <dr_willis> its not like it instantly formats.. it has a dialog and stuff..
[00:36] <lasers> Clicking "format' won't format it, will it?
[00:36] <dr_willis> i think it asks for the sudo password first
[00:36] <lasers> (What dr_willis said)
[00:36] <Guest5412> i want to do this so that a first time linux doesn't make a mistake
[00:37] <nicekiwi> jrib, w00t, that worked :D thank you
[00:37] <lasers> Guest5412: You will make mistakes. Hundred of them. Everybody did.
[00:37] <Guest5412> *linux user
[00:37] <gelph> There may be a way to remove them from a certain group and they no longer have the right to certain operations on devices
[00:37] <Guest5412> is it possible
[00:37] <Guest5412> and how
[00:38] <gelph> Guest5412 It was asked here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491530
[00:39] <nearst> xfce4 terminal able to work like yakuake term. love it!
[00:39] <IveBeenBit> I just changed to Ubuntu from Windows and I want to move my Itunes library over. Is there any way to preserve the database - I'm worried about losing the play counts and "last played" dates since I do use those fields pretty often.
[00:39] <IveBeenBit> I'm going to use Rhythmbox from here on out
[00:40] <Guest5412> how do i remove the users right from format the usb memery stick
[00:41] <Guest5412> how comes in pinguy os the option for formatting something is missing
[00:41] <Gryffin> Okay, sorted
[00:41] <Gryffin> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=117726
[00:41] <Guest5412> how do i remove that option
[00:42] <Guest5412> the way pinguy did
[00:43] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda
[00:43] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:44] <Gryffin> pvl1: Its ur solution that worked. Thanks.
[00:45] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:45] <Guest5412> i am a blender user, in windows i can use AMD gpu for display whilst my nvidia gpu for cuda, how do i do it in ubuntu
[00:45] <Pici> Guest5412: stop repeating
[00:45] <Guest5412> is this possible in ubuntu
[00:46] <gelph> Guest5412 No
[00:47] <Guest5412> how do i remove the format option from the usb context menu in ubuntu dock
[00:47] <gelph> Guest5412 You can't
[00:47] <Guest5412> how comes pinguy has managed to do that
[00:47] <S_p_or_t_o> howdy, quick question because google is failing me. i'm trying to .bz2 some counter-strike maps, but most documentation and my archive manager give me .tar.bz2.  renaming the tar out of the name doesn't seem to work, any suggestions?
[00:47] <gelph> Guest5412 Ask that in the pinguy channel
[00:47] <Guest5412> oh yeah i forgot
[00:48] <Gerowen> How can I rip my music to OGG using Rhythmbox?  When I try it attempts to install a plugin then says the plugin can't be found.
[00:48] <Gerowen> I'm using 12.10
[00:48] <Bray92820> so the people that were helping me with the bootloader about 24 hours ago
[00:49] <Bray92820> are any of you in here?
[00:50] <pavel989> Gerowen, install plugins in package manager
[00:52] <pavel989> S_p_or_t_o, are you running in terminal or the default app
[00:54] <Bray92820> if you are i just wanted to say how much of a facepalm it was in the dropdown menu it turned out it was set to install on my LVM
[00:54] <cop> i have come back to say that it workedd
[00:54] <Eagleman> I am getting the folliwing error when trying to respond to an email: Policy violation. Your host IPADDRESS has no valid Reverse DNS. Please contact your ISP for further information. How do i setup a Reverse DNS for my mail server?
[00:55] <cop> hopefully you can c it
[00:55] <jrib> S_p_or_t_o: use the bzip2 in the terminal
[00:55] <cop> i upgraded and now the screen is normal resolution
[00:55] <pavel989> Eagleman, are you masking ur IP or does it actually say that
[00:56] <bobafett> are some servers not able to communicate with ipv6 nodes, or something ?
[00:56] <cop> so thank you  mr unknown i dont recall your nick your advice was grait
[00:56] <bekks> bobafett: Correct.
[00:56] <cop> peace
[00:56] <Eagleman> pavel989 the other mail server says that
[00:56] <bobafett> how can i learn more about this situation or problem
[00:56] <bobafett> for example i'm looking at this vps service
[00:56] <bobafett> they are offering ipv4 ip addresses at $1 each per month
[00:57] <bobafett> then it says they will give you an "initial allocation of 60 ipv6 addresses for free"
[00:57] <chadster1975> I installed an additional hard drive and im having trouble getting it to work. tried using ubuntu community to figure it out with no luck.
[00:57] <gelph> Eagleman who is hosting your mail server?  Your DHCP client can "register" the DNS when system starts for example.
[00:57] <deltab> Eagleman: your ISP has to do that
[00:57] <bobafett> so i'm guessing ipv6 is problematic ?
[00:57] <BrainPaid> ubottu: turkey
[00:57] <Eagleman> They have to make a PTR record?
[00:57] <deltab> yeah
[00:57] <nearst> try dig it
[00:59] <chadster1975> used gpart to partition and format drive, but when i try to drag and drop files it says i do not have permissions
[00:59] <dr_willis> chadster1975: partition it. format it.. mount it.. use it.. ;-)
[00:59] <Eagleman> Not sure if i just did it myself but i did changed something in the VPS control panel: IP Address **.**.**.**	Reverse DNS example.com
[00:59] <dr_willis> because you need to set ownership
[00:59] <dr_willis> chadster1975: .. who needs acccess?
[01:00] <gelph> Sometimes you need a period at the end of the CNAME, like example.com.  <-- notice period
[01:00] <gelph> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_name#Details
[01:01] <Eagleman> DOMERR:0006 illegal hostname name 'example.com.'
[01:01] <deltab> Eagleman: that could work but only if the domain for the address is delegated to you
[01:01] <nearst> yup.
[01:01] <dr_willis> chadster1975: so mount ut then chown  the mountpoint to be owned by your user
[01:01] <BrainPaid> Windows 8 is bad, Microsoft is big lose.
[01:01] <gelph> Does the IP address match your canonical name?
[01:01] <Eagleman> deltab i do own the domain, i dont have to change the dns record right?
[01:01] <dr_willis> !permissions | chadster1975
[01:01] <deltab> Eagleman: are you willing to tell us the ip address?
[01:02] <pavel989> Eagleman, i was gonna say... its all about the conf settings
[01:02] <nearst> Eagleman, u can use google reverse dns ptr to your host
[01:02] <pavel989> Eagleman, just use what nearst just said, or google a free reverse dns
[01:02] <Eagleman> vpn.eagleman.net is bound to 5.45.183.189 in the DNS settings
[01:03] <deltab> 189.183.45.5.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer vpn.eagleman.net.
[01:03] <pavel989> Eagleman, dyn.com
[01:03] <deltab> yep, that's working
[01:03] <BrainPaid> pavel989: 8.8.8.8.  8.8.4.4
[01:03] <dr_willis> chadster1975: you formated it to be ext2/3/4? or what exactly
[01:03] <Eagleman> dyn.com?
[01:03] <Eagleman> i already have a domain..
[01:03] <chadster1975> when i have attempted to use chown it has given me problems with identifying
[01:03] <pavel989> BrainPaid, meant google search lol, but thank you
[01:04] <nearst> vpn.eagleman.net.	300	IN	A	5.45.183.189
[01:04] <BrainPaid> pavel: oh
[01:04] <deltab> Eagleman: you've fixed it
[01:04] <Eagleman> dig vpn.eagleman.net works
[01:04] <Eagleman> not sure about the PTR record
[01:04] <dr_willis> chadster1975: details...  what command.. what errors
[01:04] <chadster1975> i set the partition for ext4
[01:05] <Eagleman> service bind9 restart && dig ptr 5.45.183.189  shows me nothing
[01:05] <deltab> Eagleman: dig -t ptr 189.183.45.5.in-addr.arpa
[01:05] <nearst> A is PTR 0,0
[01:05] <BrainPaid> ubottu: !flood | BrainPaid
[01:05] <chadster1975> i followed the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive . but when i get down to automatic mount at boot i run into problems
[01:05] <deltab> Eagleman: you've already got it working
[01:05] <Eagleman> ok looks like i got a ptr record now
[01:05] <paranon> Hola! Does anyone know where I should start if: I want to route every connection a program attempts to make to 192.168.0.1 rather than my VPN?
 route.exe works but the program in question uses a ton of different ips!
[01:06] <Eagleman> thanks
[01:06] <gelph> sometimes there's a lag with these dns records
[01:06] <deltab> that's caching
[01:06] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  you mount it. rhe  chown its mountppoint to be iwned by your user.
[01:06] <Eagleman> I know, thats why i restarted bind9 so it will flush the cache
[01:06] <nearst> Eagleman, http://www.howtoforge.com/howtos/dns is good source to understand how dns work
[01:06] <BrainPaid> ubottu: !permissions | ubottu
[01:06] <deltab> not your cache, other people's
[01:07] <dr_willis> chadster1975: then make a fstab entry
[01:07] <chadster1975> it says it best to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID instead of doing it manually so i tried that page and got down to the fstab part but then it says i didnt create file or something
[01:07] <deltab> Eagleman: the mail server that rejected your message may or may not still have the outdated nxdomain result cached
[01:08] <deltab> Eagleman: not much you can do if it has but wait
[01:08] <Eagleman> deltab:  postqueue -p is emtpy now, so it looks like it accepted the mail from me
[01:08] <pavel989> paranon, what difference is it. your vpn is your private network afterall, right?
[01:08] <dr_willis> chadster1975: the directory you are mounting to MUST exist befor you mount
[01:08] <pavel989> paranon, can you give a bit more detail
[01:08] <paranon> pavel989 the vpn is located in sweden and i want to use Netflix on the same computer
[01:08] <nicekiwi> how do I add a user to the sudoers group?
[01:08] <paranon> pavel989 netflix will only let me connect via the states where i'm at
[01:08] <gelph> visudo
[01:09] <gelph> man visudo for format and weird syntax inside it
[01:09] <lkzone> whats the best translator for pt-br?
[01:09] <nearst> google-translator? :)
[01:09] <nicekiwi> gelph, the group. not the file
[01:09] <pavel989> paranon, ah okok ty. one sec
[01:10] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i used the mkdir command and created the directory like it said to
[01:10] <paranon> pavel989 ok cool
[01:10] <gelph> If there is a normal group, simply usermod -a -G whatever
[01:10] <gelph> just basic user group membership add
[01:11] <gelph> if group is "weirdos" then: usermod -a -G weirdos nicekiwi
[01:11] <gelph> ;-)
[01:11] <chadster1975> then when i tried the $ sudo chmod thing thats when it said directory does not exist. weird because i just created it i thought
[01:11] <gelph> To avoid messing it all up badly, do "groups nicekiwi" before and after your group modification command
[01:11] <nicekiwi> gelph, right
[01:12] <dr_willis> chadster1975: exact commands used  and the error messages please....
[01:12] <nearst> dr_willis, u use ati display? or nvidia?
[01:12] <chadster1975> dr_willis: sure thing, just take me a min
[01:12] <dr_willis> chadster1975: first guess is a typo or lack of using the proper full path
[01:13] <dr_willis> nearst: i got 1ati and 4nvidia
[01:13] <pavel989> paranon, private message me please, just a phone call
[01:13] <nicekiwi> what does this mean? # See sudoers(5) for more information on "#include" directives:
[01:13] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:   man 5 sudoers
[01:13] <nicekiwi> ah
[01:14] <dr_willis> 5 is a man section
[01:14] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i took the part that says "Note: Ubuntu now recommends to use UUID instead, see the instructions here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID" to mean that i didnt have to do all the fstab stuff below it. is that correct?
[01:14] <gelph> dr_willis you're a clever dude
[01:14] <dr_willis> 5 is for codeing u think
[01:15] <dr_willis> chadster1975: give us details...  whats the fstab line.....
[01:15] <chadster1975> dr_willis: should i continue on with the "gksu gedit /etc/fstab stuff?
[01:15] <gelph> dr_willis "man man" says section 5 is "5   File formats and conventions eg /etc/passwd"
[01:15] <dr_willis> you make a fstab entry yes chadster1975
[01:17] <gelph> chadster1975 The UUID simply refers to the partition by "unique id" rather than path such as /dev/sda3 in case the partition or device moves it will still find it
[01:17] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i was confused because it says "Add this line to the end (for ext3 file system):"   but i used ext4, so thought "gosh, i dont have to do that"
[01:17] <dr_willis> so use ext4
[01:17] <dr_willis> not ext3 in the wxample
[01:18] <Eagleman> ANy idea why this is shown non-alpabetical? IP address for tun1:    172.16.1.1  IP address for tun0:    172.16.0.1
[01:18] <Eagleman> this is how it is started in crontab -e:
[01:18] <Eagleman> @reboot                                                                                                 screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-UDP-Client /usr/sbin/openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/udp-client.ovpn
[01:18] <Eagleman> @reboot                                                                                                 screen -d -m -S OpenVPN-TCP-Client /usr/sbin/openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/tcp-client.ovpn
[01:21] <chadster1975> accidentally logged out of pidgin, sorry.
[01:22] <nearst> different segment ip
[01:22] <chadster1975> added line "/dev/sdb1    /media/mynewdrive   ext4    defaults     0        2" to last line of fstab
[01:23] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  and ls /media    shows a newdrive  directory?
[01:23] <nearst> why jockey not detect my ati fglrx?
[01:24] <dr_willis> sudo mount /media/newdrive   gives an error  chadster1975 ?
[01:24] <chadster1975> after i added the line i clicked "save", is that enough to make the change or do i need to "save as" and specify the /etc directory?
[01:24] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to remote control a 12.10 box from windows 7 over the internet?  A friend of mine already has xrdp running, but it only works I guess if he has the user set for autologin.
[01:24] <gelph> nearst: maybe it did but it's proprietary so you need to explicitly ask Ubuntu to start using it
[01:24] <buddha_> xgenstudios.com
[01:25] <dr_willis> you did edit the existing /etc/fstab file? chadster1975 ?
[01:25] <Eagleman> nearst its sorted like this: tun1 tun0 tun3 tun4
[01:25] <Eagleman> tun3 and tun4 are sorted correctly
[01:26] <chadster1975> ok, so i have this done so far   chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$ gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[01:26] <chadster1975> chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo chown -R chad:chad /media/mynewdrive
[01:26] <chadster1975> chad@chad-ubuntu-desktop:~$
[01:26] <bekks> chadster1975: Did you do that after it was mounted?
[01:26] <phunyguy> !polls | craigbass1976
[01:26] <chadster1975> bekks: i think i did yes
[01:26] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  you mount it then chow
[01:27] <nearst> gelph, not sure, im using radeon atm, try to use ati-legacy
[01:27] <chadster1975> i thought i had already mounted it in gparted
[01:27] <dr_willis> use mount command to see if its moynted  chadster1975
[01:27] <nearst> gelph, my resolution now is 1024x768 too :(
[01:27] <dr_willis> or just try to unmount then remount it
[01:27] <chadster1975> i ran mount and it spit out quite a bit. whole page long
[01:27] <gelph> legacy is "old", fglrx is "very very new", radeon ati (amd) is in the middle (sort of)
[01:28] <craigbass1976> Does anyone know why xrdp would work with autologin turned on but not when it's off?
[01:28] <dr_willis> chadster1975: and you want the one line tgat mentios the point we are messi g with...
[01:28] <gelph> nearst: there's a bunch of howto links here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx
[01:29] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i think its mounted, but it has a long crazy name i didnt assign.  "/dev/sdb1 on /media/chad/4c0fd11a-4942-41ed-9dd0-5f4ff559d193 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[01:29] <chadster1975> "
[01:29] <nicekiwi> anyone help me with git? im trying 'git push origin master' and get Permission denied (publickey).
[01:29] <nicekiwi> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[01:29] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, with autologin turned off, the host gets a popup to grant the remote acces
[01:30] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Ahhh...  Can it be set to auto accept if there's a correct username and pass?
[01:30] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, sure, for any guest :-D 7777
[01:31] <JohnAbbotCostelo> ?
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  becasue the system auto mountged it there  - because you had no fstgabb entgry for it
[01:31] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Sshhh... I'm worried the fellow might try it.
[01:31] <OerHeks> oh i read incorrect username and pass
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  so umount  it ;))
[01:31] <chadster1975> dr_willis: will unmounting and remounting assign new name then?
[01:31] <dr_willis> chadster1975:  sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[01:31] <dr_willis> your fstab entry defines where it goe to now..
[01:32] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, what do you mean?  No you can't if the user gives the proper username and pass?
[01:32] <dr_willis> that long crazy name IS gthe uuid of gthe filesysgtem
[01:32] <chadster1975> dr_willis:  ahh! looks like i got it now
[01:32] <mbeierl> Is there an iOS 6 capable media manager?  I just tried Banshee and while it looked like it was working, it just ended up doing nothing.
[01:32] <nearst> gelph, err. im prefer 13.1 legacy driver
[01:33] <gelph> nearst: you began by asking: "why jockey not detect my ati fglrx?"
[01:33] <gelph> nearst: now you say you don't want it?  what is your question?
[01:34] <mbeierl> And now Banshee won't even recognize the iphone when it's plugged in again.
[01:34] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, yes you can. my mistake is reading "giving acces without username and pass"
[01:34] <chadster1975> it didnt reject my chown command this time
[01:35] <chadster1975> worked 100%, thank you dr_willis and gelph. you two are great!
[01:35] <GeekSquid> papa
[01:35] <gelph> dr_willis is the master, I am the padawan
[01:36] <chadster1975> thats done. now i can get back to battlestar galactica. thanks again!
[01:38] <Eagleman> WIll this command avoid using port 1197 for sending and recieving on my local computer, the command is executed on the server: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d **.***.**.** --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 1197
[01:38] <Gerowen> Is the "format" option supposed to be present in 12.10 if I right click the icon for a USB drive on the Unity bar?
[01:39] <Gerowen> Because it's not, and I'd like to restore it.
[01:40] <nicekiwi> how do I view a sshkey ive generated?
[01:40] <KxTwo> Windows guys are easy to troll lol
[01:40] <bekks> nicekiwi: By using a text editor
[01:41] <nicekiwi> helpful... o_0
[01:41] <PHYSICIST> Greetings. How can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:41] <bekks> nicekiwi: If you dont like the answer, I cant help you. A SSH key is a plaintext file.
[01:42] <nicekiwi> yes, however I need to copy the text and I dont have a GUI
[01:42] <PHYSICIST> Greetings. How can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:43] <bekks> nicekiwi: There are text editors for console use, like vim or nano-
[01:43] <nicekiwi> ok, next quextion. how do u copy text in nano?
[01:44] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, have you seen a walkthrough anywhere?
[01:44] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  you can copy.paste and edit in the console
[01:45] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, for xrdp ?
[01:45] <dr_willis> nano has all the shortcuts listed at the bottom i thought. I tend to use vi,
[01:45] <PHYSICIST> dr_willis, how can I see the enable kernel in my 10.04?
[01:46] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, how?
[01:46] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Yes.  I've got to hold up a working tutorial against what this fellow has already done (bash_history I guess) and hope for the best.  I also don't have Windows 7 to test with...
[01:46] <nicekiwi> dr_willis, i have a RSA key to copy into github.. how do I get it?
[01:47] <hello-world> hi guys!
[01:48] <PHYSICIST> !password
[01:53] <OerHeks> craigbass1976, looks easy, but check the 1st comment about keyring ...  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[01:54] <dr_willis> nicekiwi:  one way. save it to a file.. then load what4ever other file you want it in vi   and you can then 'read' the first file and insert it into the 2nd file.
[01:54] <dr_willis> in vi i recall its   :r filename
[01:55] <dr_willis> not sure on that.. not on a ubuntu box at the moment
[01:56] <seyfarth> i opened thunderbird once on accident, and now i have the fabled envelope of uselessness on my panel. how do I get rid of it?
[01:56] <nicekiwi> uhh k
[01:57] <seyfarth> i really hate that thing... needs a button pin or something. just turning blue is useless
[01:57] <dr_willis> vi has a full set of cut/paste/buffers/files multi file editing support
[01:57] <Kentrel> Is Aptitude a better tool to fix messed up packages. It's offering me solutions. Should I take them?
[01:59] <gener1c> is there a chance that dash would change for some reason its color on its own ?
[01:59] <gener1c> it just did it without me initiating it..
[01:59] <gener1c> changed to light purple
[02:00] <tomreyn> not that i know of, but i haven't used it for a while
[02:00] <dr_willis> the left side panel changes color based on the wallpaper
[02:00] <dr_willis> as a new feature
[02:00] <tomreyn> oh
[02:00] <gener1c> but i didnt change the wallpaper
[02:01] <dr_willis> it can be turned off. so perhaps it was off then came on.. or visa versa...
[02:01] <gener1c> ok odd :P
[02:01] <tomreyn> light purple sounds like it could be complementary color. maybe it's a video driver bug?
[02:02] <tomreyn> i guess i would log off and on again
[02:02] <tomreyn> ...and see whether it remains
[02:02] <gener1c> well there is another but with moving from my 22" HD screen back to the laptop , windows still remember the size of the 22" and are hard to minimize
[02:03] <dr_willis> smurf people v bug. ;)
[02:03] <gener1c> bug*
[02:04] <gener1c> not sure if i care enough to report it :P
[02:06] <Rabblerouser> When 13.04 rolls around, am I going to have to use the same trick I did in 12.10 to get my Radeon HD 4670 to work on it?
[02:07] <bradlee> google
[02:08] <Kentrel> I think you'll see video cards are going to be well supported in 2013 and going into 2014
[02:08] <Kentrel> I really believe Valve are starting a revolution with gaming on Linux
[02:08] <chadster1975> im back with another problem. ive installed a 2nd operating system to boot besides ubuntu. can i remove the other OS go back to single boot ubuntu?
[02:08] <jrib> chadster1975: sure, which OS's grub do you have on the mbr at the moment?
[02:09] <Rabblerouser> Yeah, but ATI isn't Valve, Kentre
[02:09] <Alfabet> How are the games running with valve?
[02:09] <chadster1975> jrib: the other OS is Backtrack 5 R3.. not sure which grub they use
[02:09] <seyfarth> valve can only open the doors, users have to walk through. ATI/nvidia will only make drivers with demand. e.g. if valve's settop box succeeds
[02:09] <jrib> chadster1975: well, you can get rid of the backtrack partition and if you have trouble booting, just follow ubottu's directions on restoring grub after windows
[02:09] <jrib> !grub | chadster1975
[02:10] <bradlee> google
[02:10] <Rabblerouser> We allowed to link here?
[02:12] <Rabblerouser> This is what I have to do now since I have an older GPU. http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ My question is will I have to do this again in 13.04
[02:13] <chadster1975> ok. so first order of business in removing bactrack is to use gpart to remove the partition and then resize the ubuntu partition to take up the whole drive?
[02:14] <chadster1975> the help files for grub assume grub is lost or damaged, so thats for after i change partition stuff right?
[02:16] <jrib> chadster1975: you'll only need that if you currently have backtrack's grub handling your boot
[02:17] <chadster1975> jrib: so dont worry about the grub stuff if i use gpart to remove the whole partition right?
[02:17] <nut> hows it going yall?
[02:17] <chadster1975> whole backtrack partition, not the ubuntu one.
[02:20] <dr_willis> dedpends on which os is handling grub. ;)
[02:20] <dr_willis> boot to ubuntu and have it reinstall grub.. to be sure ubuntu is the os thats got controll of grub.
[02:21] <dr_willis> then remove the other partions
[02:22] <keithclark_> I'm trying to install xubuntu version of ubuntu but my touchpad will not work, any ideas?
[02:23] <snadge> can anyone else install adblock plus for chrome? or is it just me that can't
[02:23] <bekks> snadge: Works fine here.
[02:23] <snadge> i click on it.. it comes up with the thingy to "add to chrome" .. click add.. does nothing
[02:23] <dr_willis> you get a specific error message snadge ?
[02:23] <dr_willis> just that eh.. weord
[02:23] <snadge> no error message.. just disappears.. and doesnt work.. frustrating :)
[02:23] <nicekiwi> if i need to modify a virtualhost config file, do i modifty the one in /sites-enabled or /sites-avaliable?
[02:24] <nicekiwi> in apache2
[02:24] <snadge> bekks: what version of chrome are you running?
[02:24] <snadge> i have 18.0.1025.162
[02:25] <elena-IK> I have a problem with mouse lag. cursor movements are delayed by about 1.5 seconds. worked fine yesterday before shut down. the cursor lags no matter what desktop environment I use. the mouse is a logitech mx 518. any ideas?
[02:26] <bekks> snadge: 25.x
[02:26] <snadge> whoah.. i see the problem then.. my chrome is a bit outdated
[02:27] <civixier> Hello, I could really really use some help with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1603302/
[02:29] <seyfarth> civixier: are you on a desktop? because i'm doing this right now :)
[02:29] <seyfarth> civixier: at least, on my laptop
[02:30] <civixier> seyfarth: I am on a desktop. I have a gts 450 card and an integrated intel card :)
[02:33] <seyfarth> civixier: gimme a sec, see if i can figure out whats up
[02:35] <civixier> seyfarth: I really appreciate it. I try my best to figure it out, but this seems to be as far as I can get.
[02:35] <_helios_> this is kind of a newbish question but what exactly does ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot mean?
[02:35] <dr_willis> !info ureadahead
[02:35] <dr_willis> its a preloading feature
[02:36] <dr_willis> i rember  when it first came out years ago as a fancy new feature.. ;)  now no one ecen thinks twice about it
[02:37] <dr_willis> it preloads  files  to make the system boot/load faster
[02:37] <Silverfox> http://pastebin.ca/2310185 <-- Why is there no /lib/modules/xxx/build directory ?
[02:38] <_helios_> dr_willis: so it will start preloading files next boot up.
[02:38] <dr_willis> it  has to generate a profile of whats going on so it will know what to preload.
[02:39] <dr_willis> nothing to worry about. ;)
[02:40] <bob__> Just installed 12.04... first LInux and IRC in years... hope it is like riding a bike
[02:41] <Silverfox> Lots of google hits on this error, but all point to installing linux-headers, which I have installed.  Not sure what I'm missing.
[02:41] <_helios_> bob__: it's easier than riding a bike the first time in my opinion, a heck of allot easier than it use to be.
[02:41] <tomreyn> bikes still don't have a graphical user interface
[02:41] <Silverfox> nor a package management system.
[02:42] <dr_willis> aptt-get install little-dingly-bell ;)
[02:42] <dr_willis> but linux has gotten more training-wheels over the years
[02:43] <Silverfox> http://www.instructables.com/id/Google-Bike/
[02:44] <bob__> I managed a dept with AIX and HP-UNIX for a while.. and just played briefly with a couple Dists back in 2004.. so I have not seen Linux for a while.. WOW does not come close
[02:44] <dasgud> hello everyone :)
[02:45] <seyfarth> civixier: ok. i use http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/610 to manage the fancy nvidia/intel switch on my laptop. it might work for you
[02:45] <seyfarth> civixier: honestly never done it on a desktop, where a lot of them disable the integrated card at the bios level
[02:45] <seyfarth> but you seem to ahve it working
[02:45] <_helios_> bob__: it's allot nicer, kicks Windows butt in many different ways
[02:46] <chadster1975> ok, i booted using ubuntu live usb, went into gparted and im attempting to remove 2nd partition. when i try to delete the 2nd partition it says "please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6".
[02:46] <civixier> seyfarth: I start to believe that I got very very lucky with my xorg.conf. I am far from a Xconfig ninja ;)
[02:46] <Noskcaj> ping to anyone involved with the iso tracker
[02:46] <Silverfox> Noskcaj: no route to host
[02:47] <Noskcaj> ok?
[02:47] <bob__> I put 10.04 on an old dell desktop.. and just put 12.04 on a Dell (still old) Latitude 620 and it seems to be handling the load.
[02:47] <dr_willis> chadster1975: unmount any partions you want to alter first
[02:48] <_helios_> bob__: You could put Xubuntu which is basicaly still Ubuntu just uses the Xfce desktop enviroment instead of Unity/Gnome I run Xubuntu 12.1064bit on my older desktop and 12.1064bit Unity on my laptop.
[02:48] <dr_willis> chadster1975: you may need to do   sudo swapoff   also
[02:48] <bob__> Not sensing my Broadcom 4311 Wireless though.. and when I added the driver.. it killed the kernel..
[02:48] <chadster1975> when i use "sudo umount /dev/sbd6" or any other sdb# it says "not mounted"
[02:49] <dr_willis> yse the mount command to see whats mounted
[02:50] <_helios_> bob__: You could probably use ndiswrapper but I would just suggest purchasing a new wifi card that has native linux drivers for it because it will save you allot of hassle.
[02:51] <bob__> Laptop.. and a Dell 620... not sure what I am going to do.. yet.. sort of locked into it.. have not heard of ndiswrapper.. so I will look at that... so much to learn again
[02:51] <chadster1975> dr_willis: there is a lot there, but device-wise i only see /dev/sdc1...and i think thats the ubuntu live usb, right?
[02:51] <dasgud> I have a question about unity restoration. I had a problem with unity yesterday morning. following some nefarious forum posts I uninstalled it. Now I can't boot because when I try, I get a popup that I am in low graphics mode and it just sits there. Is there a way to restore unity using a boot disk?
[02:51] <bob__> Well , wife is calling .. been a pleasure helios.. thx
[02:52] <bob__> I will be back later
[02:52] <dr_willis> chadster1975: no idea.  sudo blkid may give a clue
[02:54] <_helios_> dasgud: You should beable to restore using the Live CD/USB
[02:54] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i have two /dev/loop then sdb1, 5,6,and 7. weird they dont show up under mount.  maybe i switched the "d" and the "b" in sdb.. ill try again
[02:55] <nearst> hi ppl
[02:55] <_helios_> nearst: hello
[02:57] <_helios_> Ok one more question for the night, How are some people on this server getting there host to say freebsd/user/blah or user/unaffiliated
[02:57] <_helios_> I know that it could be a virtual host but I've never seen a vhost in that format.
[02:57] <nearst> c0re
[02:57] <manup> can someone help me with an issue im having
[02:57] <manup> im new to ubuntu :$
[02:58] <dasgud> @ helio  Thank you for answering. When I try I don't get an option to restore, only to format and clean install, install alongside or change partitions. nothing about restoring
[02:58] <nearst> _helios_, u can apply for user/anaffiliated at #freenode
[02:59] <_helios_> nearst: thanks
[02:59] <nearst> _helios_, just ask for the staff and request for it :)
[03:00] <_helios_> dasgud: I'm not an expert by any means but what you should try to do is boot from a Live CD, backup all important files you can on the drive and then just do a fresh install,  Unfortunetaly that's all I would know how to do I'm still a half newb
[03:00] <manup> before i installed ubuntu i copied some documents to my phone internal storage. now im trying to copy back simple pdf and .doc files and its not copying the files saying that they are not supported.
[03:00] <dasgud> right helios. thanks again. I have that planned too. that would be part two of my question
[03:02] <_helios_> dasgud: To backup your data just boot from the Live CD and use the Try Ubuntu option when the desktop loads that's when you can read the drive and get your important data off it via external HD or flash drives.
[03:02] <manup> and i tried to look info online but couldnt find anything. !
[03:03] <dasgud> I have copied my whole ~/ folder to a hard drive. I'm just wondering if there is anything I should copy still.
[03:04] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i was able to delete the old partition but only by using the swapoff command in the menu of gparted and not by using "sudo swapoff -a" in terminal. odd, but at least it worked
[03:05] <dr_willis> i mentioned swapoff earlier.....   ;-)
[03:06] <dr_willis> live cd auto enabled the seen swap partition
[03:06] <chadster1975> dr_willis: you totally called it, just weird the swapoff command didnt work from terminal and only from inside gparted. usually command line is the most solid.
[03:09] <Ramsrambo> Hi! I am on 12.10 Quantal and my browsers not able to play youtube - no audio
[03:11] <mikehaas763> Does anyone know if there is an app for saving my window positions? I'm a dev and I like to have my browser open and sized with a couple other terminals opened and sized and positioned. I'd like to replicate this easily everytime
[03:11] <Silverfox> I managed to compile a new module for my wifi (wl.ko), and did a depmod, and modprobe, but don't see any network interfaces with wireless extensions showing up.  Did I miss a step?
[03:12] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  is that with more than one browser ?
[03:13] <nearst> Silverfox, usb or pci?
[03:13] <Silverfox> pci
[03:13] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : Yeah! firefox and chrome
[03:14] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : there are 2 sound card on my PC
[03:14] <nearst> what type
[03:14] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : pulse audio gets hooked on to the motherboard audio
[03:14] <Silverfox> broadcom BCM4322
[03:15] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  ah ok ... you prefer to use the pereferal audio card ?
[03:15] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : there is also a SBX usb card which is on ALSA
[03:15] <nearst> try with jockey? sudo jockey-gtk
[03:15] <zykotick9> Ramsrambo: not sure if this applies to situations using pulse, but with firefox - i can ONLY get sound out of first sound devices listed in /proc/asound/cards  (hope this info is helpful, i'm not sure it is)
[03:16] <Silverfox> nearst: don't know anything about jockey.  I'll do some reading.
[03:16] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : what I need to change to make it play in my USB card ?
[03:16] <chadster1975> after partitioning and resizing ubuntu partition im getting "grub rescue>"  is there a fix for this or should i reinstall?
[03:16] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  if you don't use the motherboard audio ... i would first disable it in BIOS
[03:17] <nearst> Silverfox, http://askubuntu.com/questions/218986/how-to-fix-a-broadcom-43224-rev-01-in-ubuntu-12-10-running-on-a-macbook-pro
[03:17] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : not sure if I can do that - I do not think there is an option in BIOS to do that
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  what MoBo are you using ... or what PC make and model
[03:18] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : this motherboard is old intel 865gbf so the BIOS will not have that option
[03:19] <chadster1975> full error is "error: no such partition" then "grub rescue>"
[03:19] <Silverfox> nearst: think it makes any difference that I'm on a Dell laptop here?
[03:19] <Silverfox> Dell E6400
[03:19] <Ben64> chadster1975: what exactly did you change
[03:19] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : in /proc/asound there are two directories card0 and card1
[03:20] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : anyway to blacklist or something like that
[03:20] <chadster1975> Ben64: had ubuntu 12.10 and Backtrack 5 R3 dual boot. used gparted to delete backtrack partition
[03:20] <Silverfox> I see the module loaded in lsmod, but iwconfig shows no interfaces.  I'm thinking I need to tell the module to look for wlan0 or something.  Just not sure where.
[03:21] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : when I click on audio ICON it crashes so I cannot change anything there
[03:21] <Silverfox> nearst: thats basically what I'm doing.  I am compiling my own module, however, because broadcom has released a fix for the driver that caused several channels to not be visible.
[03:22] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  i'm i'm looking for a solution
[03:22] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I am here and waiting
[03:23] <nearst> Silverfox, im not too sure about that channels issue :(
[03:23] <Ben64> chadster1975: did you have backtrack installed first?
[03:24] <chadster1975> Ben64: yeah, i think it would boot into backtrack as priority.
[03:24] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : when I play on youtube in browser it is going to pulse audio bcos I can see that on PULSEAudio Volume meter
[03:24] <Ben64> chadster1975: if i were you, i'd use the boot-repair utility with an ubuntu live cd, it should be able to detect and fix the problem
[03:24] <nearst> Silverfox, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/09/fixing-broadcom-43xx-wireless-card.html
[03:24] <chadster1975> Ben64: will give that a try right away
[03:25] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:28] <BroBert> hey can anywher ehere give me some live assistant?
[03:28] <BroBert> can some one help?
[03:29] <xangua> !ask | BroBert
[03:30] <BroBert> !ask | I am having some trouble setting up ubuntu 12.1 on my acer aspire desktop i chose the option to completeley overwrite windows and it installed fine and when i restarted it says "ERROR: no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed." what do i do?
[03:31] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  have you tried to switch the device in alsamixer ?
[03:31] <Silverfox> nearst: bcmwl is the module I just compiled.
[03:31] <BroBert> Tex_Nick: was that directed at me?
[03:31] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : yes! I hv done that
[03:31] <ganeshonubuntu> most likely issue is grub
[03:32] <_helios_> BroBert: have you checked your boot device priority in your bios?
[03:32] <Ramsrambo> Tex_nick : in /etc/modeprob.d/alsa-conf all of them are 2
[03:32] <BroBert> _helios_: yes and EFI is the first boot device
[03:32] <P-CHAN> who is more stable.  Ubuntu or Debian Sid?
[03:32] <bazhang> !ot | P-CHAN
[03:33] <ganeshonubuntu> is any one aware of professional accounting package on ubuntu
[03:33] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  searching ...
[03:33] <ChaozHenchman> gnu-cash
[03:33] <bazhang> ganeshonubuntu, apt-cache search accounting
[03:33] <johnathan> hey
[03:33] <johnathan> i really really really need help
[03:33] <johnathan> like im about to an hero lol
[03:33] <_helios_> BroBert: does grub load? and then it says that or does grub not load and it goes directly to the error
[03:34] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : in /etc/modeprobe.ds/alsa-base.conf all of them are -2
[03:34] <BroBert> _helios_: i cant really tell i just see my bootup screen that has the option for boot device or bios settigns and then it goes to a screen allowing me to hit CTRL+F for RAID ROM utility (not sure what that is) then it goes black and outputs that error
[03:34] <ganeshonubuntu> it simply means that grub has not written any thing.  Simply give a 2nd try and reinstall.
[03:35] <usr13> !efi | BroBert
[03:35] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : any diff betwn -2 and 2
[03:35] <johnathan> i have an aspire one netbook and ubuntu simply refuses to run on it, i install it and it freeses when booting, ive tried like 12 linux distros tonight
[03:35] <BroBert> _helios_: also everytime i hit a key at the error window it displays the eror again
[03:35] <usr13> !uefi | BroBert
[03:36] <BroBert> usr13: ok let me look into doing that
[03:36] <Silverfox> the problem I'm having is I'm familiar with /etc/network/interfaces, and ubuntu's 'new' way completely eludes me.
[03:36] <_helios_> BroBert: try to follow ubottu's link it might have the fix you need.
[03:36] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  not sure ... you're probably going to need more help than i can i can provide ... i'm still looking though
[03:36] <ganeshonubuntu> my mouse on ubuntu is too fast.  system setting mouse set on minimum but still pretty much unusable
[03:37] <chadster1975> Ben64: boot-repair not working very well so far. starts to load then locks up just after loading the optical mouse
[03:37] <BroBert> _helios_: im going to
[03:37] <nearst> Silverfox, working good?
[03:37] <johnathan> can someone please help me? im sorry to be demanding but i really need to get this working
[03:37] <ganeshonubuntu> ubuntu usb pen drive write is very very slow.. please help
[03:37] <keithclark_> How do I erase and reformat a usb stick drive?  I've tried gparted but it doesn't work form me.  All those functions are greyed out.
[03:38] <Silverfox> nearst: no, the bcmwl and bcm43 drivers in the official repos have bugs/problems and don't work with certain AP's.
[03:38] <Silverfox> which is why I'm trying to get my compiled module working
[03:38] <bazhang> keithclark_, in 12.10 the software "disks" has that option
[03:38] <_helios_> keithclark_: goto http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-format-usb-pen-drive/ it has step by step instructions using the terminal.
[03:39] <keithclark_> It is that complicaterd?
[03:39] <bazhang> keithclark_, disks? no, it's GUI
[03:39] <nearst> Silverfox, u try manually change to specific channel? iwconfig <wifi> channel <channel no> ?
[03:39] <_helios_> keithclark_: It's not hard but I just don't know it by heart lol
[03:40] <Silverfox> nearst: I'd rather get a good driver installed.  I can't log into every AP and change the channel.  Starbucks frowns on that sort of thing.
[03:41] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : It started working I just clicked on system speaker and it is working now
[03:41] <johnathan> please i just need an operating system, i completely got rid of windows on my brand new notebook because i was sure ubuntu would work, i have no idea whats going on
[03:42] <keithclark_> I just want to 'burn' an o/s onto my usb stick drive but it does not seem to work with unetbootin
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  cool ... how easy was that ;-)
[03:42] <_helios_> johnathan: what's the problem you are having?
[03:43] <craigbass1976> Is it possible to use an ubuntu 12.04 dvd to upgrade a 10.04 install?  My ISP is terrible and the downloads (during upgrade process) keep borking when the connection drops.
[03:43] <johnathan> helios im trying to install ubuntu on my aspire one d270-1895 netbook. the live install side launches but it crashes when i try to try it, if i install it it will install but then when i try to boot it it crashes the exact same way
[03:43] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I do not know - I just changed the device for O/p
[03:43] <xangua> !alternate | craigbass1976
[03:43] <xangua> mmmmm....
[03:44] <keithclark_> It says it wrote to the usb stick but it does not
[03:44] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : I selected SB X-fi surround 5.1
[03:44] <_helios_> johnathan: Give me a second I'll do a search for ya real quick.
[03:44] <craigbass1976> xangua, not sure what you're saying. I've got the regulat 12.04 dvd
[03:44] <craigbass1976> regular
[03:44] <xangua> craigbass1976: you need the alternate iso, not the desktop http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[03:44] <xangua> and there are several guides out there to use the alternate to upgrade
[03:45] <craigbass1976> xangua, fah...  I'll just fresh install then
[03:45] <Ramsrambo> Tex_Nick : Thnx for all the help
[03:45] <Tex_Nick> Ramsrambo:  looks like you're good to go ... ^5 and good going :-)
[03:48] <bazhang> !alternate | xangua
[03:48] <_helios_> johnathan: I've been doing some searching and from what I've read so far your notebook should be compatible with Ubuntu 12.10,  What is the error message your are getting?
[03:49] <xangua> bazhang: already read it...whice now, thanks :)
[03:49]  * xangua insets sarcasm here
[03:50] <johnathan> after booting the last thing i see helios is a long list of [ok]s and the last on the list is "stopping anac(h)ronistic cron, it gets stuck here , ive waited for like hours and all i get is a flashing -
[03:50] <johnathan> x will not start
[03:50] <johnathan> and i cant access any other tty
[03:50] <_helios_> johnathan: Have you tried to make a different CD?
[03:51] <johnathan> im installing from thumb drive, ive reformatted it about 15 times now lol man i just dont get it
[03:51] <_helios_> johnathan: I feel your fustration trust me I've had problems with acer before.
[03:51] <johnathan> ive tried both 64 bit and 32 bit, as it turns out my system is 64, but its the same error either way
[03:52] <johnathan> ya man it just blows lol
[03:52] <johnathan> i got the netbook for my it course and i literally need ubuntu on it lol
[03:52] <pbwizkid> how old is the netbook? could it have harddrive damage
[03:52] <johnathan> its brand new, bought it today
[03:53] <pbwizkid> i have seen this issues on another system of mine with a failing drive
[03:53] <pbwizkid> well then there goes that idea lol
[03:53] <johnathan> ya, it had a perfectly functional copy of windows 7... if you can  concider windows functional
[03:53] <pbwizkid> have you tried a diffrent USB stick? i have also seen that be a issue
[03:54] <_helios_> johnathan: You should try to make a Live CD instead of the USB.
[03:54] <johnathan> i only have the one, i would try that if i could, a curious thing is this happens with any flavor of linux i try
[03:54] <johnathan> helios this netbook has no cd rom
[03:55] <pbwizkid> you could hook up the USB Drive and do a true clean on it by writeing it all out and formatting it and then rebuilding your start up drive
[03:55] <pbwizkid> what are you useing to create you bootable USB?
[03:55] <johnathan> say what now? lol
[03:55] <johnathan> ive tried 2 peices of software
[03:56] <johnathan> both of the recommended
[03:57] <pbwizkid> i forgot the name of the app but it does a true format of any type of drive by filling the drive with all 0's then formatting it so it removes all traces of information
[03:57] <johnathan> its worth a fuckin try honestly
[03:57] <pbwizkid> it would be easier to just use another USB drive or
[03:58] <pbwizkid> makeing it from another system
[03:58] <johnathan> how big is the live install? a couple megs right? i have a usb drive but its only like 1.5 gigs, ill try that i guess
[03:58] <pbwizkid> i belive it has to be at leat a 2gig stick
[03:58] <johnathan> ok then im fucked
[03:58] <johnathan> lol
[03:59] <_helios_> johnathan: you should beable to fit it on 1.5gb
[03:59] <usr13> !language | johnathan
[03:59] <johnathan> sorry
[03:59] <johnathan> ok ill try it
[03:59] <johnathan> afk
[03:59] <pbwizkid> ya its worth a shot
[03:59] <johnathan> ill let you know how it goes
[03:59] <pbwizkid> also when you try the install use a diffrent USB port on the system
[03:59] <_helios_> johnathan: good luck and I'll keep looking this problem up cause its got me curious
[03:59] <pbwizkid> just incase its a voltage issue
[04:00] <chadster1975> johnathan: dont stress. you may not be able to pull this off at this moment, but you will get what you need and get it going eventually
[04:00] <_helios_> Well everyone I am so tired I will ttyl ;)
[04:01] <johnathan> chadster i hope i can, im going to try this out and try to calm down lol thanks for all the help anyone i really appreciate it
[04:03] <johnathan> JUST TO VERIGGY lol 32 bit version will still work on 64 bit computer right?
[04:03] <johnathan> verify*
[04:03] <pbwizkid> yes
[04:03] <johnathan> ok
[04:03] <pbwizkid> 32 bit would be better for a netbook any way
[04:03] <dr_willis> i use 64bit on  all my 64bit systems. ;)
[04:03] <dr_willis> even my netbooks
[04:03] <dr_willis> of course only 1 of my netbooks can do 64bit
[04:04] <pbwizkid> 64 bit is better for a 64bit system and systems with more ram
[04:04] <johnathan> my netbook only has 1 gig
[04:04] <pbwizkid> but 32 bit works as well
[04:04] <pbwizkid> then for sure use 32bit
[04:04] <dr_willis> I set up apt-cacher-ng on my lan - so its easier for me to use 64 bit on everything
[04:04] <dr_willis> i doubt if you will notice much differance either way
[04:05] <johnathan> i am slowly losing all semblance of sanity lol
[04:05] <johnathan> XD
[04:06] <pbwizkid> these little issue happen from time to time but in the end it teaches you lots of cool new thigns
[04:06] <johnathan> i know, i love fixing stuff so i can learn... but i worry that i wont be able to fix it xD
[04:07] <pbwizkid> as long as it still has its magic smoke it can always be fixed lol
[04:07] <johnathan> lmao
[04:08] <devish> or it doesn't give smoke
[04:08] <johnathan> 1 min and 20 secs till the moment of truth >_>
[04:10] <johnathan> ok its making the disk
[04:11] <johnathan> brb
[04:12] <johnathan> back
[04:12] <johnathan> ok 70%
[04:13] <dr_willis> 80..90...80..70... wut?
[04:13] <dr_willis> :)
[04:13] <johnathan> lolol
[04:14] <dr_willis> ive seen just such thingss on progress meters
[04:14] <BroBert> ok guys i tried burnign to the boot repair to the flash and starting it but its telling me to use gparted and change the flags of my partitions
[04:15] <dr_willis> yes.. gparted can be used to change flags.. :) so whats the problem?
[04:15] <BroBert> i have no idea what this means i just want to get ubuntu working and i know theres nothing wrong with the installation i used
[04:15] <johnathan> ok the very vist thing im going to do is try to test it, if that doesnt work then i know its not going to work
[04:15] <dr_willis> run gparted.. and se the flag on the partions as its saying.
[04:15] <dr_willis> what flag is it saying to change anyway?
[04:16] <Physicist> Guys, later I have changed my password editing the image - grub, my Ubuntu don't start anymore. When I type my password and enter, return to initial screen. Any suggest? Or I'll have to re-install my system again?
[04:16] <Physicist> dr_willis: Any suggest to my problem?
[04:17] <dr_willis> Physicist:  can you login to the console  with that user/password?
[04:17] <dr_willis> its not clearn what you mean by editing the image grub...
[04:17] <johnathan> its not working
[04:17] <johnathan> FACEPALM
[04:17] <dr_willis> 'dont start any more...' well its aparently  booting up.. if its asking for a user/password.. do  give DEtAILS as to what you mean...
[04:18] <pbwizkid> what it doing?
[04:18] <johnathan> i got a flashing -
[04:18] <johnathan> for the past 5 minutes or so
[04:19] <pbwizkid> i am assuing you told it to boo from cd
[04:19] <johnathan> yes
[04:19] <pbwizkid> usb i mean'
[04:19] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:19] <johnathan> im going to cry ubottu is that for me?
[04:19] <johnathan> LOL
[04:19] <johnathan> those were supposed to be seperate messages
[04:19] <johnathan> XD
[04:20] <dr_willis> black screen just showing a _ _ _ _     = try the nomodeset option
[04:20] <pbwizkid> to me it sounds like the boot image of you usb drive is not working
[04:21] <Physicist> dr_willis: Grub - press: e, and edit with: initi=/bin/bash. To enter my password, the system will apparently start, but will not start. the screen goes black, the sound is original and reissued as an infinite loop! Does not start.
[04:21] <johnathan> im gonna check this disk for defauls then il try ni mode set
[04:21] <johnathan> errors*
[04:21] <dr_willis> Physicist:  the sound is original? what ssound?
[04:22] <Physicist> dr_willis: Initial sound of the log screen!
[04:22] <chadster1975> Anyone have advice on whether or not to use the encryption option when i install ubuntu? any history of trouble or cause systems to be significantly slower?
[04:23] <dr_willis> if you are using init=bin/bash it shouldent even be loading the Lightdm login manager as far as i know...
[04:23] <dr_willis> Physicist:  try  the 'text' option to see if you can boot to a normal console mode
[04:23] <dr_willis> !text
[04:24] <johnathan> that nomodeset seems to have worked thus far... its just a waiting game now
[04:24] <dr_willis> e in grub ->   quiet splash     ---change to -->   noquiet nosplash verbose text
[04:24] <johnathan> it... didnt... work
[04:24] <johnathan> xD
[04:24] <johnathan> XDD
[04:26] <johnathan> guys is freeBSD guaranteed to atleast install right? if so i could try to build from that... it would be a learning experience lol
[04:26] <dr_willis> err.. freebsd is not linux
[04:26] <johnathan> i know
[04:26] <Physicist> dr_willis: So, when I'll be there what should I do?
[04:26] <dr_willis> and nothing is every guarentted
[04:27] <dr_willis> Physicist:  did it sucessfully boot to the console?
[04:28] <Physicist> dr_willis: To the graphical normally mode doctor!
[04:28] <dr_willis> Huh? the text option should not boot to the graphical login screen.. b ut to the console    login:   display
[04:29] <seyfarth> Anyone seen their unity disappear completely? Screenshot: http://twitter.com/Tony_Lech/status/297921985470664705/photo/1
[04:29] <dr_willis> seyfarth:  turn off the unity pluygin setting in ccsm ;) and it will vanish
[04:30] <seyfarth> dr_willis: ccsm?
[04:30] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:30] <epsilonorion> anyone familiar with battery charging issues?  Setup ubuntu on my Samsung Laptop, plugged in charger, and it doesn't charge (though it doesn't seem to be draining).  I have tried to find a solution, but must be missing it
[04:30] <dr_willis> unity can crash/not show if compiz for somepreason dosent load properly
[04:30] <Physicist> Ok, doctor. I'll try.. Thank you!
[04:31] <dr_willis> see if the guest user account works properly. if so.. try making a new user.. ssee if the new test user works properly
[04:32] <Physicist> Yes! I'm in the guest user now!
[04:32] <dr_willis> they really need to work on some fallback mode for when unity goofs up
[04:33] <Ben64> dr_willis: one of many reasons I don't think they should have made it default already
[04:33] <nearst> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[04:33] <dr_willis> if you dont push forward... you fall back... ;)
[04:34] <dr_willis> the failsafe-x feature was tried.. then tossed i recall...  not sure what happened to it.
[04:34] <Ben64> just pushes users to xfce, kde, lxde, and gnome-fallback
[04:34] <chadster1975> dr_willis: i like your style.
[04:34] <dr_willis> gnome-fallback is scheduled for  elimination in the future..
[04:34] <Ben64> well i've got it for at least 4 more years :D
[04:34] <johnathan> helios are you still here?
[04:34] <seyfarth> dr_willis: Guessing it has to do with the beta nvidia drivers I just put on there. New user has the same issue
[04:35] <Ben64> seyfarth: can you open a terminal
[04:35] <chadster1975> johnathan: i think he signed off for the night, said he was tired
[04:35] <dr_willis> seyfarth:  that would be a good guess..   the guest user also fails i imagine?
[04:35] <johnathan> ok
[04:35] <seyfarth> Yeah. I can get a terminal. Unity fails for all users
[04:35] <seyfarth> Need to get additional driver screen open somehow
[04:35] <dr_willis> id bet its actually compiz failing. ;)
[04:36] <Ben64> seyfarth: ok, open one up and type "sudo lshw -c video | grep -i driver"
[04:37] <dr_willis> install some light/simple window manager to use  as a tempary fix..   such as jwm or openbox..  if you  want a useble desktop for  trouble shooting
[04:37] <seyfarth> Ben64: two drivers. But then, this is a two driver laptop. One of those weird nvidia/intel hybrids
[04:38] <Ben64> oh.
[04:38] <Ben64> theres your problem. (probably)
[04:38] <seyfarth> Ben64:well it works fine with one. Just need to get back to "additional drivers" app somehow (jockey?)
[04:38] <Ben64> what are you trying to do? get rid of nvidia?
[04:39] <seyfarth> Ben64: Yeah. It's what I just added
[04:39] <Ben64> you might want to look into http://bumblebee-project.org/
[04:39] <seyfarth> Usable system first :)
[04:39] <seyfarth> I'm on irc via smartphone haha
[04:40] <Ben64> then sudo apt-get install icewm
[04:40] <Ben64> will give you a window manager to work with
[04:40] <seyfarth> <3
[04:41] <dr_willis> in 12.10 addational drivers is in a tab of the software sources tool
[04:42] <dr_willis> in 12.04  it would be   jockey-gtk
[04:43] <dr_willis> they should have made that conmand in 12.10 pyll up the siurces tool with tgat tab focused..    ;-)
[04:50] <seyfarth> Blasting the nvidia driver fixed it. Thanks for your help guys <3
[04:51] <nearst> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-boot-iso-file-from-your-hard.html
[04:51] <dr_willis> nearst: yep. handy feature
[04:53] <nearst> dr_willis, grub-legacy support for this or its feature from grub2?
[04:56] <dr_willis> grub2 only
[04:57] <dr_willis> as far as i know
[04:58] <nearst> im guess that too.
[04:58] <Amelia28> hey guys, how can i fix "booting without full network configuration"  my computer started doing this thing where it takes extra time during startup and then boots without full network configuration, when it finally starts up  It takes a bit and then networking starts working, but it would be great if i can get it back to working as it used to.
[05:00] <dr_willis> wired or wireless Amelia28?
[05:00] <Amelia28> wireless
[05:01] <Castial> hey how come none of the US update servers are working?
[05:01] <dr_willis> any other wireless pcs on thr lan Amelia28 ?
[05:01] <nearst> i think extra time mean like your computer need to get ip from dhcp,
[05:01] <Amelia28> no
[05:02] <Castial> I get errors like "failed to connect"
[05:02] <dr_willis> wonder if it could be interfearance or somthing
[05:02] <Castial> its not my firewall im on the DMZ of it
[05:02] <dr_willis> Castial:  first ive seen it mentioned tonight
[05:03] <Castial> it seems to keep happening every night
[05:03] <Castial> are they doing major maintenance?
[05:03] <nearst> im not sure, im use other repo.
[05:03] <Castial> which?
[05:04] <Castial> Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/quantal-getdeb/InRelease
[05:04] <nearst> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[05:04] <Amelia28> is there a way to uninstall / reinstall the whole network manager?
[05:05] <Castial> nearst: I did that lol
[05:05] <nearst> Amelia28, either ure using manual ip configuration of using alternative for network manager, wicd
[05:05] <Castial> seems the get-deb repo is down
[05:05] <Castial> thats the one I like because I get other random stuff there
[05:05] <xangua> Castial: getdeb is dead
[05:06] <Castial> ah
[05:06] <Castial> sad because thats where I get my emulators
[05:06] <dr_willis> getdeb is dead i thought
[05:06] <nearst> discontinue
[05:06] <Castial> ah thanks for the update
[05:06] <Castial> ill remove it
[05:06] <nearst> :)
[05:06] <xangua> Castial:getdeb only package them for you,  emulators are still out there
[05:06] <Castial> yeah yeah but it was nice to have them packaged
[05:07] <Castial> no biggie
[05:08] <Castial> the wii is only 50 bucks now at walmart
[05:08] <Castial> im gunna go pick one up in the morning
[05:09] <Castial> cheap netflix box that can play mario and zelda
[05:11] <guang_> j #hostapd
[05:11] <Castial> holy cow apt is getting an update I havent seen apt get an update for quite some time I wonder what was broken
[05:12] <nearst> get-deb fan
[05:12] <Castial> same
[05:12] <Castial> they had some great software
[05:13] <nearst> mario and zelda nes now able to play on web
[05:13] <Castial> this is true
[05:13] <Cavemanross> Is anyone available to help with a wireless adapter question?
[05:13] <Castial> sure
[05:13] <Castial> shoot
[05:14] <Cavemanross> I just got ubuntu 12.10 for my class and added gnome.  In the terminal my wireless connection is fine but in the gnome interface i cant connect
[05:14] <Castial> thats not the adapter-s fault, thats gnome shell, gnome shell is crap
[05:15] <Cavemanross> oh my professor suggested it
[05:15] <Castial> try cinnamon or unity
[05:15] <Castial> I like them both
[05:15] <justmmt> nice morning :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> http://alternativeto.net/software/getdeb/
[05:15] <Castial> mate for gnome2, but atm gnome shell is kinda buggy
[05:15] <Cavemanross> lame
[05:16] <Castial> well with the backlash they stopped caring
[05:16] <justmmt> I have firefoxBrowser, but I need one more. is it a good idea to install 'xxxterm' !!?
[05:16] <dr_willis> gnome shell should be using the same network manager tools in ubuntu
[05:16] <Cavemanross> Ya for some reason I couldn't get connected in the gnome shell.  Not even when I wired into my router.
[05:17] <Castial> ive seen it dr_willis where it works in Unity but not in Gnome-shell
[05:17] <dr_willis> on my system my wireless connects b3for i even login
[05:17] <Castial> like gnome shell just doesnt want to connect when installed next to unity
[05:17] <justmmt> just yes or no. help, help!!?
[05:18] <dr_willis> justmmt:  with?)
[05:18] <Castial> ive never heard of xxxterm
[05:18] <dr_willis> !info xxxterm
[05:18] <dr_willis> so minimal its most lukely useless
[05:18] <Castial> I dont see how firefox isnt enough
[05:18] <justmmt> which webBrowser is good to install, other than firefox!!?
[05:19] <dr_willis> ff. chrome. opera.
[05:19] <Castial> some people like chrome or chromium but I prefer firefox always have always will unless they do something really stupid and break everything
[05:19] <nearst> for full flash, im use chrome
[05:19] <Castial> flash works fine for me here
[05:19] <Castial> in firefox
[05:20] <nearst> afaik, ubuntu now configure flash auto
[05:20] <Castial> they use the open source one
[05:20] <Castial> you can choose to install the one from adobe
[05:20] <dr_willis> huh? i dont think so
[05:20] <dr_willis> you install flash same as you alw%ys have
[05:20] <Castial> did they change it? I didn't notice the difference
[05:21] <Castial> thought so
[05:21] <dr_willis> google chrom comes with its own flash
[05:21] <Castial> I love how adobe were all like "we wont support Linux with flash anymore" 2 revisions later
[05:22] <justmmt> yea, I need flash to work!!
[05:22] <nearst> lol
[05:22] <Castial> Justasic: works fine here
[05:22] <Castial> you must not have it installed
[05:22] <dr_willis> so you use ff or chrom then ;-)
[05:23] <nearst> try flashplugin-installer then
[05:23] <dr_willis> install them all.  ff.  chrome. and chromium
[05:23] <Castial> we may be under 8% market share but we are a consistant bunch, much more consistant than Mac users lol
[05:24] <Castial> ignoring us is futile, ask Samsung about all the bad press lmao
[05:24] <Nils_> Hey
[05:24] <Castial> howdie
[05:24] <Nils_> I found a solution and have a question
[05:24] <Nils_> my problem was that certain apps like steam wouldn't start
[05:24] <justmmt> dr_willis, I think I'll install chrome.
[05:25] <Nils_> my solution was to delete all previous drivers
[05:25] <dr_willis> i install all 3
[05:25] <Nils_> I have a thinkpad t500
[05:25] <Castial> Nils_: amd or nvidia card?
[05:25] <Nils_> Should I keept it this way?
[05:25] <justmmt> dr_willis, which !?
[05:25] <Nils_> amd radeon 3650
[05:25] <Nils_> and intel
[05:25] <Castial> idk amd sucks
[05:25] <Nils_> it's a hybrid situation
[05:25] <Castial> I refuse to use their rubbish
[05:25] <dr_willis> justmmt:  ff. chrome and chromium
[05:26] <Castial> my macbook which is running mint 14.1 is hybrid nvidia and intel and it works fine
[05:26] <Nils_> so the propieritary driver has caused trouble so far
[05:26] <Nils_> what should I do
[05:26] <Castial> use the newest 310 driver
[05:26] <justmmt> dr_willis, is there a big difference between chrome and chromium!?
[05:26] <Castial> er for amd idk
[05:26] <Castial> hmmm
[05:26] <Sosumi> look
[05:26] <dr_willis> flash is the main diff.
[05:26] <Castial> hold on ill research it
[05:27] <nearst> nils-, im already keep try patching, making package since last night. able to install but kmod not load the module
[05:27] <Nils_> tried installing the newest one but it failed
[05:27] <Sosumi> I don't know if someone else had this issue with matlab
[05:27] <Castial> http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/how-to-setup-amdintel-hybrid-graphics-cards-in-linux-ubuntu/
[05:27] <Nils_> when I install the additional driver it causes trouble
[05:27] <nearst>  aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[05:28] <Sosumi> but when using it, like for ex doing "bench" it causes my pc to restart
[05:28] <Castial> this is why I like nvidia, it works with minimul hassle
[05:28] <Sosumi> all turns black and that's it
[05:28] <dr_willis> nvidia optimus is also a pain
[05:28] <nearst> Castial, that is for hd 5x00 series, 2x00-4x00 known as legacy now
[05:29] <Sosumi> anyone has an idea of what may be causing the problem?
[05:29] <justmmt> dr_willis, ok,
[05:29] <Sosumi> also, it's matlab r2012b
[05:29] <justmmt> thanks for all :)
[05:29] <dr_willis> Sosumi:  mpressive a user ran app can restart the pc
[05:30] <Castial> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[05:30] <Sosumi> indeed
[05:30] <GProg> hi
[05:30] <dr_willis> or its some hardware crashing
[05:30] <GProg> i need some help. my fan is blowing like crazy when idle and im running one tab of firefox
[05:30] <Castial> Sosumi: Ubuntu 12.04 and up are not supported OSes
[05:31] <GProg> my laptop is a dell inspirion n4110
[05:31] <Castial> of matlab
[05:31] <Castial> wait for the march update or go back to using Ubuntu 11.10
[05:31] <Sosumi> well, I also tested with fedora 18
[05:31] <Castial> known bug
[05:31] <Sosumi> and it did the same thing
[05:31] <Castial> right
[05:32] <GProg> i want to roolback on my updates. this happened when i updated yesterday
[05:32] <justmmt> dr_willis, oh no, I think Ive not chrome in my repository, just chromium. it's the one which doesn't support flash isn't it!?
[05:32] <Castial> its a known kernel bug
[05:32] <GProg> *rollback
[05:32] <Castial> wait til march for the update, matlab isnt FOSS software so we only get updates when they are promised to us
[05:32] <nearst> http://saravananthirumuruganathan.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/fixing-matlab-errors-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[05:33] <Castial> until then use a "supported operating system"
[05:33] <Castial> that works too
[05:33] <GProg> anyone?
[05:33] <Sosumi> unfortunatelly that seems so
[05:33] <GProg> bump
[05:33] <Castial> I just know for a few applications like matlab I am currently booting my other netbook to 11.10 til march
[05:33] <Tinybird> GProg, try "top" to see which process is running?
[05:33] <GProg> ok
[05:33] <Castial> GProg: saying "bump" wont get you any help
[05:34] <GProg> how do i know what's taking up cpu? Im a linux noob
[05:35] <Castial> system monitor
[05:35] <Castial> and afaik (I could be wrong) I dont believe there is a way to rollback updates
[05:35] <GProg> found the issue
[05:35] <GProg>  1297 root      20   0 69660 3092 2292 R  97.7  0.1  11:49.48 cupsd
[05:35] <GProg>  6321 root      39  19  380m 281m 7332 D  56.2  4.8   0:43.46 update-apt-xapi
[05:36] <GProg> cupsd?
[05:36] <Castial> cups is printer
[05:36] <GProg> its taking 97 percent of my cpu
[05:36] <dr_willis> thats weird
[05:36] <Castial> sudo kill 1297
[05:36] <Castial> sudo kill 6321
[05:36] <GProg> ok
[05:36] <nearst> service cups stop
[05:36] <Tinybird> GProg, you may kill that process to see what will happen
[05:37] <GProg> will do
[05:37] <Castial> sudo service cups stop
[05:37] <dr_willis> cups is noramally real stable
[05:37] <Castial> yeah in the recent years its been a dream
[05:38] <Castial> I hooked my kodak AIO to my both USB and Wifi and it works without a single configuration
[05:38] <Castial> plug and go
[05:38] <pbajp> Hi, I ran an update and now i've got an error from dpkg. You'll note that the required version and the installed version are the same except for the ~ Message:
[05:38] <pbajp> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[05:38] <pbajp>  initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1~); however:
[05:38] <pbajp>   Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.99ubuntu13.1.
[05:39] <GProg> hmmmm, they are not closing and my fan is still running like crazy
[05:39] <pbajp> any ideas? i've cleared my dpkg cache and updated, etc.
[05:39] <pbajp> afraid to reboot
[05:39] <uplinx> howdy, any feedback on getting the latency of microphone input playback to a level that is not a total mindfuck?
[05:39] <nearst> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[05:39] <Castial> pbajp: wow just backup and reinstall lol
[05:39] <GProg> its still running
[05:39] <Castial> how did you mess up your boot table it would be faster to reinstall then it would to fix it
[05:39] <GProg> cannot kill it
[05:40] <Tinybird> GProg, sudo kill -9 1297
[05:40] <Castial> sorry forgot the -9
[05:40] <dr_willis> pbajp:  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade recently?
[05:40] <pbajp> Castial: heh, i'd rather edit /var/lib/dpkg/status, but humm
[05:40] <Castial> yeah dist-upgrade breaks a lot
[05:41] <Castial> it was easier for me to simply reinstall
[05:41] <dr_willis> thats weird.. it shouldent break anything
[05:41] <GProg> holy crap, its still running
[05:41] <pbajp> i didn't do anything to the boot, it just updated initramfs tools
[05:41] <pbajp> from 13 to 13.1
[05:41] <Castial> dr_willis: for me it broke the entire init too
[05:41] <GProg> it goes to 6638 and so on
[05:41] <GProg> is cupsd a virus?
[05:41] <Castial> I simply have /home on another drive so it was easier to format / and install 12.10.1
[05:42] <GProg> no matter how many times i kill it it goes to another line
[05:42] <hatake> amd or intel, plz comment ?
[05:42] <pbajp> dr_willis: nope. should I?
[05:42] <Castial> GProg: yes XD no its the printer service
[05:42] <pbajp> i'm at 12.10
[05:42] <dr_willis> !cups  gpog
[05:42] <Castial> linux dont get viruses foo
[05:42] <nearst> only rootkit
[05:42] <dr_willis> pbajp:  try it and see what it suggests
[05:42] <GProg> well i have an intel
[05:42] <fraa_lio> Has there never been a proper virus that affects Linux systems?
[05:42] <dr_willis> hatake:  get what your budget can affrd
[05:42] <GProg> how do i end this printer service? its still going, lol
[05:43] <cfhowlett> GProg, kill -9
[05:43] <Castial> well I gotta reboot after 121 updates
[05:43] <Tinybird> GProg, tha's weird. I am not familiar with these cupsd thing
[05:43] <pbajp> i'm pretty sure that's not gonna fix this, btw i've been using linux since 96. this is the first time i've had to ask for help on irc...
[05:43] <pbajp> but thanks anyway!
[05:43] <dr_willis> pbajp:  see what it suggests.. it may be a dead end anyway
[05:43] <dr_willis> the verssion #s seem weird..
[05:43] <pbajp> yah, still
[05:43] <pbajp> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:43] <pbajp>  initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.1 is installed
[05:43] <pbajp> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[05:43] <GProg>  wow, wtf is going on
[05:43] <pbajp> and i've done -f
[05:44] <other> aa
[05:44] <other> aaa
[05:44] <nearst> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-managing-services-with-update-rc-d/
[05:44] <pbajp> yeah...
[05:44] <zykotick9> fraa_lio: sorta.  you might want to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses_and_trojan_horses
[05:45] <nearst> try scan with rkhunter or chkrootkit
[05:45] <dr_willis> pbajp:   could be some wwirdness or bug in some packages that got made.
[05:45] <GProg> yeah
[05:45] <dr_willis> I dont recall ever seeing a ~ in a version # befor
[05:45] <GProg> i updated this yesterday, now look what happened
[05:47] <Castial> "wah I updated my free OS that I paid nothing for, with no implied warranty and something broke and instead of googling and doing what others have posted im going to continue to whine and moan"
[05:47] <pbajp> dr_willis: et al. could you send me what this outputs? I'm curious what your initramfs-tools is saying it requires...
[05:47] <pbajp> grep initramfs-tools-bin /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep Depends
[05:47] <dr_willis> im on my cell phone. ;)
[05:47] <Castial> dude its like legos sometimes things come apart and ya gotta put them back together
[05:47]  * cfhowlett and THEN I'm going to MSoft!  Fedora!  Mint! ...
[05:47] <GProg> im not whining, just want my ubuntu to go back to normal :)
[05:48] <cfhowlett> GProg,  have you run a print job recently?
[05:48] <GProg> nope
[05:48] <Castial> cfhowlett: better yet I love when mac fanboys come in here complaining about everything
[05:48] <GProg> its a bug
[05:49] <Castial> no its not because I just printed something
[05:49] <Castial> try removing cups
[05:49] <Castial> reboot
[05:49] <Castial> reinstall cups
[05:49] <GProg> remove cupsd? how
[05:49] <Castial> ubuntu software center
[05:49] <dr_willis> just a reboot may be easier to  try firtst
[05:49] <Castial> right
[05:50] <dr_willis> cups is normally a very solid bit of code...
[05:50] <GProg> going to ubuntu software
[05:50] <dr_willis> could be its got confused about somthing or somthign else crashed and   got cups all confused
[05:50] <Castial> dr_willis: remember back in 03-04 holy f--- it didnt used to be
[05:51] <GProg> i hope my laptop wont over heat
[05:51] <GProg> its doing 71 c
[05:51] <dr_willis> my simple HP laserjet-5l has worked great in linux for decades. ;)
[05:51] <CarlFK> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx   it has a .deb, wondering if there is a canonical or community repo I can apt-get from?
[05:51] <GProg> when you say reboot. do you mean reinstall ubuntu?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> CarlFK, nope.
[05:51] <dr_willis> GProg: .. i mean reboot the pc....
[05:52] <GProg> oh
[05:52] <CarlFK> cfhowlett: thanks.
[05:52] <dr_willis> oor power off... let it cool a bit.. then power back on
[05:53] <GProg> ok, removing
[05:53] <GProg> now a reboot
[05:53] <nearst> tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN'
[05:53] <dr_willis> i suggested just rebooting first......
[05:53] <GProg> tried it^
[05:53] <GProg> :)
[05:53] <GProg> brb
[05:55] <MACscr> hmm, so im trying to use a program called filebot. i have it installed on a system, but im going to be using its command line options for scripting. When i run the app, im getting: ** (process:22546): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=5c686fcd4b7fc19b5fd84dfc00000009 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[05:55] <MACscr> repeated multiple times. Is there a setting i might be missing in ubuntu or is it just the app requiring x11?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> MACscr, filebot is not an ubuntu package and is not in the repositories.  Suggest you go to the package maintainer for support
[05:56] <nearst> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_apps/quantal/apps/getdeb/filebot
[05:57] <bitplane> Hi. Dumb question here which Google couldn't answer: What's the quickest way and easiest way to make an encrypted dir?
[05:57] <GProg> lol, cupsd is still there
[05:57] <cfhowlett> bitplane, ecryptfs
[05:58] <bitplane> hmm I don't think the FS method is good for me. I want the files backed up via dropbox
[05:58] <bitplane> it's a few text files, will maybe one day be 1mb
[05:58] <dr_willis> macbr:  almost looks like itst rying to start up  X11 itself.. which is weird
[05:58] <bitplane> password protected like encryptfs, but backed up to dropbox and other cloud storage
[05:58] <MACscr> dr_willis: i know, im not sure what my options are
[05:59] <GProg> should i reinstall ubuntu?
[05:59] <pbajp> GProg: cupsd should be there, it's what lets you print
[05:59] <dr_willis> MACscr:  try running it from a x terminal
[05:59] <bitplane> does file-roller and archive mounter do password protected archives?
[05:59] <nearst> GProg, to disable cups http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701098
[05:59] <pbajp> are you trying to get rid of it?
[05:59] <MACscr> dr_willis: its a headless system =/
[05:59] <dr_willis> GProg:  so its still there.. but is it sucking down the cpi?
[05:59] <dr_willis> MACscr:  try it in a vnc session
[05:59] <GProg> yes
[06:00] <cfhowlett> GProg, I'd say no.  Cupsd is a service.  you should be able to default to NOT start on launch ...
[06:00] <MACscr> dr_willis: not really going to help since this is something that is going to run in an automated fashion from another app
[06:00] <riqdiiz> Hi is it possible to login to a server without a username or password?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> bitplane, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-encrypt-and-decrypt-files-with-a-password.html
[06:00] <dr_willis> MACscr:  that will let you know if it needs a X session...
[06:00] <GProg> where can i make this thing not luanch?
[06:00] <bitplane> thanks :(
[06:00] <GProg> *launch
[06:00] <bitplane> :)
[06:00] <dr_willis> MACscr:  ive no  idea what that app is doing. ;)
[06:01] <nearst> cups file on /etc/init/cups afaik, GProg refer to url i give u
[06:01] <cfhowlett> GProg, on 12.10?  system settings > startup IIRC
[06:01] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  using what service?  or you  mean automateeed login over ssh?
[06:01] <MACscr> dr_willis: you drinking tonight? your tab autocomplete for names is pretty bad tonight =P
[06:02] <GProg> im on 12.10. I feel so noobish here. I switched to linux because i had enough of windows 7
[06:02] <dr_willis> looks like they have been spot on to me...
[06:04] <dr_willis> if theres a cups bug that just came out thats causing it to suck down 100% cpu. i imagine its going to  get noticed and worked on/fixed very quickly.. ;)
[06:04] <riqdiiz> dr_willis:automated over dialup .
[06:04]  * cfhowlett dailup?  
[06:04] <zykotick9> riqdiiz: i'm not sure what you mean (kinda scared to ask actually).  but you can use ssh+keys to login remotely without requiring inputting username and password (username is obviously still used).
[06:05] <nearst> why not use teamviewer instead :D
[06:05] <dr_willis> dialup? ;) like a BBS systm?
[06:06] <dr_willis> or the old days of dialup isp serivice.
[06:06] <dr_willis> Good Old Netzero. ;)
[06:06] <riqdiiz> Dialup isp service
[06:07] <dr_willis> theres guides on making your own personal dialup isp type system.  saw them ages ago on tldp.org
[06:07] <dr_willis> not seen anyone actually  do it in years
[06:08] <nearst> pstn + PABX world
[06:10] <yva> is there a reason I cannot the ownership of a directory I own on a server?
[06:10] <krnlklink> why is empathy so buggered in 12.10?
[06:12] <dr_willis> yva: rephrase that perhaps? its not clear
[06:13] <yva> dr_willis, oups sorry. I'd like to change the ownership of a directory say test drwxrwxr--  4 yva yva    4096 2013-02-03 06:05 but when I do chown it says operation not permitted, why?
[06:13] <dydzEz2_> does ubuntu make a recovery partition
[06:14] <dr_willis> yva you mean permissions? your owner is yva
[06:14] <krnlklink> is there an updated version of empathy that will allow me to store my IRC password properly?
[06:14] <yva> yes, and I'd like to "give" the file to another user chown test/ daniel
[06:15] <dr_willis> im not sure users can unown stuff that way.
[06:15] <nyRednek> yva, you'd actually chown -R daniel test
[06:15] <nyRednek> dr_willis, yeah, you can
[06:16] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever tried to do it.    ;-)
[06:16] <dr_willis> or newded to
[06:16] <bittu> question... i'm using ./configure with "export CFLAGS="xyz" is it possible instead of setting FLAGS environment variable to pass it in as a command line parameter to configure?
[06:17] <dr_willis> you can do   cflags=foo  ./configure
[06:17] <nyRednek> bittu, it really depends on the way the developer wrote the ./configure script
[06:18] <bittu> nyRednek, i thought so, thanks
[06:18] <yva> nyRednek,  dr_willis, nope same problem, I cannot
[06:18] <dr_willis> yea.. exporting world be best
[06:18] <dr_willis> yva: what kind of server is this.  is this a samba share?
[06:19] <yva> nope, a ubuntu, latest lts
[06:19] <dr_willis> err samba is a service on ubuntu
[06:19] <dr_willis> ;-)
[06:20] <dr_willis> so you are just sshing into the server?
[06:20] <nyRednek> dr_willis, i even have a proprietary router that has CIFS in its code
[06:21] <theundertaker> hello
[06:22] <cfhowlett> theundertaker, greetings
[06:22] <GProg> SUCCESS!!!
[06:22] <theundertaker> greetings
[06:23] <GProg> Thanks everyone
[06:23] <brady2600> hey guys, im doing rmdir /var/run in the bash prompt at startup, but it says Not a directory, however ive verified that it is there.. how can i get ti
[06:23] <GProg> my laptop runs normally now
[06:24] <zykotick9> brady2600: i think /var/run is a link to /run - why would you want to remove it?
[06:24] <brady2600> hey guys im trying to rmdir /var/run  in the prompt before startup however it results in Not a directory, however ive checked and i know the folder exists.
[06:25] <brady2600> i want to remove it because ive been given instructions in a tutorial to do so
[06:25] <dr_willis> brady2600:  a tutorial to do what
[06:26] <zykotick9> brady2600: and if you read in a howto to jump off a bridge would you do that as well?  this is a BAD idea.
[06:26] <rigel> hi, i am having trouble getting debug info/logs from bluez
[06:26] <brady2600> ive purged lightdm , the network manager, the display manager,  and supposedly this folder needs to be deleted, so i can reinstall all that stuff, so my computer stops "booting without networking"
[06:27] <GProg> well, now what do i do?
[06:27] <GProg> ask questions about comp. science.
[06:27] <GProg> anyone here computer scientist?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !ot|GProg,
[06:28] <brady2600> the purpose of the tutorial was to get networking to stop acting crazy
[06:28] <GProg> its involving on ubuntu. OS questions etc..
[06:29] <brady2600> careful gprog, the room is a nazi hammer if you don't stay on topic. it's weird
[06:29] <GProg> ok
[06:29] <GProg> I'll take that advice.
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> brady2600: if the channel weren't so full and busy at times, it would matter less
[06:29] <GProg> anyways, how do i fix this cupsd? do i need it in the future?
[06:30] <bobafett> anyone have a good understanding of proxy servers and x-forwarded-for ?
[06:30] <brady2600> im only responding because you said that to me.. but ive never seen the room here scrolling so fast to justify such behavior
[06:30] <cfhowlett> bobafett, #ubuntu-server  question maybe???
[06:30] <bobafett> squid, if anything
[06:31] <GProg> yeah, its a support server.
[06:31] <GProg> quit: later
[06:31] <GProg> quit/see ya
[06:31] <GProg> well thanks everyone(click the x button).
[06:32] <Ben64> brady2600: thats the point
[06:33] <brady2600> no what im saying, is i don't find it believable.
[06:34] <brady2600> unnecessarily restrictive and conflict creating for a problem that does not exist, its a human compatibility fail.
[06:34] <Ben64> the problem doesn't exist because of the rules
[06:35] <Gumby> ^^
[06:35] <brady2600> like i said.. I don't find that contention realistic.
[06:35] <JPeterson> can i change the function for the middle button with the right button?
[06:35] <JPeterson> in the terminal
[06:35] <brady2600> but back to my problem
[06:35] <Gumby> if you had 20 users in here all talking about different subjects it would be hard to get questions answered.  now think about it, there are 1631 users in here.  make sense now?
[06:36] <OerHeks> brady2600, stop that ranting, Ubuntu 11.10 has migrated away from /var/run, /var/lock and /dev/shm and now uses /run, /run/lock and /run/shm instead (respectively).
[06:36] <thomasd> hello all
[06:36] <cfhowlett> thomasd, greetings
[06:36] <brady2600> i have not ranted. I have simply responded for what was said at me
[06:36] <thomasd> thanks cfhowlett
[06:36] <thomasd> I'm trying to start a script on boot, but I'm obviously doing it wrong can someone explain me why "update-rc.d astransk default"  returns "astransk start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)". My /etc/init.d/astransk file is here : http://pastebin.com/4VFxrJYi
[06:36] <JPeterson> ah it's `xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2"`
[06:36] <thomasd> I thought I would need to create the rc?.d links manually, so I did, but the update-rc.d doesn't work any better ...
[06:38] <Ben64> !upstart | thomasd maybe this will help?
[06:38] <brady2600> ok yes, but i still want to delete the folder, i have backed it up so i can manually replace it from another computer if needed.
[06:38] <Ben64> brady2600: why would you need to delete /run
[06:40] <brady2600> ls
[06:42] <OerHeks> Ben64, stanger than that >rmdir /var/run
[06:42] <OerHeks> *stranger
[06:42] <Ben64> OerHeks: either way it's weird
[06:43] <dr_willis> the /run stuff is a specual dynamic directory like /proc i thought
[06:43] <zykotick9> Ben64: OerHeks neither "strang" nor "weird" quite describe it...
[06:44] <Cub> strang?
[06:44] <kdns> Hi All. Using kubuntu 12.04. Muon has become unresponsive during configuring a new kernel. Can someone please advise the most graceful recovery from this? Kill it and sudo dpkg -configure -a ?
[06:44] <zykotick9> Cub: s/strang/strange/ sorry
[06:44] <Ben64> zykotick9: impossible?
[06:45] <zykotick9> Ben64: oh, if you want to break your system - i'd think it's possible.
[06:45] <Ben64> oh well, time to try it in a vm
[06:46] <yva> I have weird issues with file permissions d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? .
[06:46] <yva> d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? ..
[06:46] <yva> -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? 23551209-2013-02-03-07-16-08.775.json
[06:46] <yva> any ideas where this would be coming from?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> kdns, reboot with an earlier kernel should get you back up
[06:47] <Ben64> yva: could you pastebin "ls -ln" in the directory you're talking about?
[06:47] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169495/what-are-run-lock-and-run-shm-used-for
[06:47] <kdns> cfhowlett I'm still up now, I am on this box, it's not that it is not booting, just what I said. If I alt+tab, I can see it sitting there, not moving.
[06:48] <cfhowlett> kdns, OK
[06:48] <yva> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/4iaqR6UU
[06:48] <yva> it's really weird
[06:49] <yva> and I don't even seem to be able to get the file back
[06:49] <dr_willis> yva: mght be time for a fsck on that fs.
[06:49] <Ben64> is it a local drive?
[06:49] <yva> It's a server
[06:49] <rigel> so i connected successfully to a bt device that was giving me problems, using hidd
[06:49] <yva> I was try to move some files around
[06:49] <rigel> and then i powered it down
[06:49] <yva> and did a test on this file first
[06:50] <rigel> and when it came back up it wouldnt reconnect
[06:50] <Ben64> what do you mean server? its a network share?
[06:50] <rigel> it wont even find the device anymore
[06:50] <rigel> im not sure what hidd would have changed
[06:50] <rigel> i did a find /etc -mtime -1 and nothing useful comes up
[06:51] <yva> Ben24 an amazon ebs
[06:51] <Ben64> come on, give more information
[06:52] <yva> not sure what else I can tell you
[06:53] <Ben64> how are you accessing it? is it local to where you have the shell running or is it over the network? what type of drive is it? where is it mounted? what filesystem? what device?
[06:55] <kingbeast> alright, single quadro 6000, dual monitors does nothing but mirror the screen, will not extend the screen, any thoughts?
[06:56] <dr_willis> quadro? that a nvidia chipset?
[06:56] <kingbeast> dr_willis, yes
[06:56] <yva> Ben64, it is mounted as sda
[06:56] <kepler> proprietary drivers, or nouveau?
[06:57] <dr_willis> installed the nvidia drivets?
[06:57] <dr_willis> drivers
[06:57] <kdns> kingbeast: what happens when you try to extend the screen
[06:57] <yva> Ben64, ext4
[06:57] <kingbeast> kdns, defaults back to mirror right after I apply
[06:59] <kepler> !nvidia
[06:59] <kingbeast> think it could be the combined res is too high? I have two 30" dells on it
[06:59] <kepler> 2560x1440x2?
[07:00] <kingbeast> 2560x1600
[07:00] <kingbeast> x2
[07:00] <kepler> does it work with another OS, or haven't tried?
[07:00] <kingbeast> I only use Ubuntu
[07:00] <kingbeast> just upgraded cards though
[07:00] <kepler> the old one worked?
[07:01] <kingbeast> yeah
[07:01] <fego> I only use Ubuntu/2
[07:01] <kepler> was it a quadro too?
[07:01] <kingbeast> but the old card was dual link dvi x2, this one is displayport
[07:02] <badday_> kingbeast: are u talking about something like Xinerama?
[07:02] <kdns> kingbeast: did you preview? Did it work?
[07:02] <kdns> no, it's randr these days
[07:02] <kingbeast> I'll figure it out
[07:03] <kingbeast> probably have to just write my own xorg file
[07:03] <kdns> no
[07:04] <kingbeast> kdns, why no
[07:05] <kdns> because usually it's not needed these days, so statistically speaking, you probably don't need to at all.
[07:05] <kingbeast> well I give it a few more attempts in different ways, just seeing if anyone else has had a problem with it
[07:06] <Ben64> using nvidia-settings to do it?
[07:07] <kepler> it wouldn't reactivate nouveau drivers if switching cards, would it?
[07:07] <kingbeast> Ben64, I have tried both
[07:08] <yva> is there a limit in the number of directories one can have in a directory?
[07:08] <Ben64> kingbeast: how about trying the 310 drivers?
[07:08] <kingbeast> kepler, nah it's using the right driver
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> yva: yes
[07:08] <yva> aeon-ltd, any idea how many is a limit?
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> yva: though i can't recall the number
[07:09] <kingbeast> thanks guys I'll figure it out and post the fix in the forums
[07:09] <patrick__> I am new to development, and I am trying to boot up Ubuntu with testdrive for the first time. When I do, Ubuntu starts to boot, but then prints out the error message "BUG soft lockup..." Has anyone seen this before?
[07:10] <badday_> kingbeast: I had running 3 monitors with more than full hd on 2 nvidia cards with the nvidia drivers, so this should not be any problem
[07:10] <bravis> 1
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> yva: quick googling says it's 64000, though i'm searching more to confirm
[07:11] <cfhowlett> patrick__, lots of search hits on ubuntu + bug + soft + lockup
[07:12] <kingbeast> badday_, I think it's a resolution restriction or something. I'll try different monitors and if it works I know what it is then
[07:12] <kepler> display port should be able to handle it
[07:12] <kepler> you have those dongle things to connect through?
[07:12] <jarray52> Is it possible to use a Displaylink monitor(USB monitor) as a third monitor using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? Some posts online suggest that it must be set as a separate screen in xorg.conf. Any suggestions?
[07:12] <badday_> kingbeast: I am not sure, I was actually using 2048x<something> on DVI, so I guess yours should not be an issue
[07:14] <patrick__> cfhowlett: Thanks. I had looked quickly on the net and didn't see any quick fixes. I was hoping someone here might have recognized it as a known problem.
[07:14] <kingbeast> badday_, if you combine the two I am trying to run it's 5120x1600. that's a huge resolution
[07:15] <cfhowlett> patrick__, check bug reports.  If your particular configuration/fail is not listed, you might consider filing a new bug
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !bug|patrick__,
[07:15] <kepler> i run 5760x1200 w/ 3 monitors/2 cards via dvi, so unless it is a DP issue, i dont think there is a resolution problem
[07:15] <badday_> kingbeast: well, I was running 2 on a simple Nvidia card, too, almost the same resolution as u, so I guess it should work
[07:16] <kingbeast> could just be the card, idk I'll figure it out. thanks guys I'm headed to bed
[07:16] <kepler> night, gl!
[07:16] <yva> aeon-ltd, seems to be 64 indeed
[07:16] <yva> would that be true for files too?
[07:18] <patrick__> cfhowlett: Thanks. I see there is a bug listed that looks like it might be similar for Ubuntu 12.04. It looks like there might be a fix available already. I'm looking into it.
[07:18] <linda666> hi, my virtualbox cannot connect to network. I have the same problem with all my vms which shows something wrong from my host side. cant figure out whats the problem. my ubuntu is 12.04, i have the vbox 4.2.6 installed from virtualbox.org
[07:19] <kdns> ugh displayport...why........
[07:19] <linda666> i have to add, settings for my vms are all bridged network, and they used to work fine, suddenly few days ago they started having problems...
[07:19] <Ben64> kdns: because hdmi costs too much
[07:20] <sunsetlover> hey there, i have some questions about wireless in ubuntu. any one can help me
[07:20] <fedor> hi everyone. I am using chrome on my u12-04 and some extensions do not work particularly in Ubunty in w8 they work though. I do not know what is the reason for that. What i want to know is if anyone who uses ad blocker extension for u12-04 has (or had) issues with it? Can i make it work as it works in win-8 and if yes, how? thanx in advance
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> yva: i'd assume so
[07:21] <badday_> !ask | sunsetlover
[07:21] <RigidWig> Can someone help me figure out why 1444 ( http://i.imgur.com/KqexRM3.png ) is not listenning to a remote telnet?
[07:21] <linda666> thats funny.. i just changed it to NAT it works... so why you think bridged does not work?
[07:21] <sunsetlover> ok thank you
[07:22] <RigidWig> not responding that is
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> yva: according to wikipedia 4 billion is the limit of ext4
[07:23] <kdns> Ben64: How's that?
[07:23] <wsky> ok, which groups in ubuntu 12.10 should i belong to be able to mount removable storage devices in kde?
[07:23] <yva> aeon-ltd, yes, I was checking but I had more file that 64k in the directory
[07:23] <wsky> i belong to plugdev, what else?
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> yva: you'd run out of hdd space before you hit that if it's true
[07:23] <yva> aeon-ltd, any idea how to be sure?
[07:24] <wsky> i'm running kde with startx with xinitrc containing exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startkde
[07:24] <yva> the question is also if it's files or directories
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> yva: no idea on that, besides testing it (though that's out of the question really)
[07:25] <yva> aeon-ltd, http://www.whatastruggle.com/maximum-number-of-sub-directories-in-ext4
[07:26] <RigidWig> nvm silly aws setting
[07:26] <genoobie> hey all
[07:26] <genoobie> very old hardware here.
[07:26] <aeon-ltd> yva: also interesting http://serverfault.com/questions/104986/what-is-the-maximum-number-of-files-a-file-system-can-contain
[07:26] <genoobie> just wondering if I can run minecraft for my kids
[07:26] <genoobie> PIII 800MHz, 284M
[07:26] <genoobie> 384MB I mean
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> eeeek
[07:27] <genoobie> installing jre now
[07:27] <genoobie> phunyguy_tab, no go?
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> isnt it a java based game?
[07:27] <genoobie> yes
[07:27] <phunyguy_tab> eeeek
[07:27] <genoobie> oh
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: that's pushing it, i've run it on a celeron m 3gb ram, couldn't hit 30fps even with optifine
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> clock at 2ghz i think
[07:28] <genoobie> this is crazy, for the quality of game that it is, I mean shouldn't it run smooth?
[07:28] <sunsetlover> i'd intalled ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop (hp g6) with windows 7, well every thing goes well but yesterday i found that the wireless not working good, because the router is not far of me (just 2 meters) and in windows the signal is full, but in ubuntu i found that the signal is low and lossing the connection without to internet for more one time in few minutes. will you please inform me what
[07:28] <sunsetlover> happened with me? n.b: i tested the connection in windows and i found it working very good
[07:29] <genoobie> ok tx
[07:29] <yva> aeon-ltd, yep, I've read the same thread
[07:29] <yva> cool :)
[07:29] <genoobie> boy, this machine is really borderline
[07:29] <genoobie> :)
[07:29] <dr_willis> minecraft smooth on a PIII 800mhz?  :) thats... amuzeing..
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: running now on a c2d 2.4ghz/x3100/4gb ram/optifine i can hit 30-40 on tiny short distances
[07:30] <genoobie> dr_willis, but the game seems so basic...
[07:30] <Ben64> minecraft doesn't look good, but requires a lot of power
[07:30] <genoobie> Ben64, that's what I am curious about
[07:30] <genoobie> why?
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> more for lan play
[07:30] <phunyguy_tab> java is the pig in this case i am sure
[07:30] <dr_willis> genoobie:  and perhps very unoptmizzed
[07:30] <genoobie> phunyguy_tab, any way to "optimize"
[07:30] <Ben64> think about  how many blocks are being computed at once
[07:30] <dr_willis> lots and lots of blocks
[07:30] <dydzEz2_> i feel like ubuntu made a partition that, in windows, looks like a recovery partition (so i cant delete it, as ive already deleted the main ubuntu partition), is it normal to have 2 recovery partitions? 1 is like 9gigs and the 2nd is 1gig
[07:30] <dr_willis> take so so code.. and maganify it...
[07:31] <Ben64> 128*16*16*20 at the least
[07:31] <phunyguy_tab> i have no idea
[07:31] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[07:31] <genoobie> adding texture....now!
[07:31] <dr_willis> dydzEz2_:  windows7 normally has a boot partion  and its main partion.. then the pc maker may have 1 or more recovery partions
[07:31] <genoobie> :)
[07:31] <genoobie> okay, forget it then, I was hoping it might work
[07:32] <genoobie> maybe infiniminer :)
[07:32] <Ben64> you should get a better computer
[07:32] <genoobie> Ben64, yes
[07:32] <genoobie> I am thinking about that now.
[07:32] <dr_willis> My Raspberry Pi proberly has more oomph then that thing. ;)
[07:32] <genoobie> dr_willis, not really
[07:33] <Ambushed> Donate some bitcoins 1838oUxQED5WSM3HfwXZYdv7SfrCu5iRa2
[07:33] <dydzEz2_> dr_willis is it possible ubuntu could even emulate a recovery partition
[07:33] <dydzEz2_> on a regular install
[07:33] <Ben64> it probably does
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> you can play the minecraft built for rPi
[07:33] <genoobie> seriously?
[07:33] <Ben64> Ambushed: don't spam stuff here
[07:33] <dr_willis> its got moar ram.. and i can overclock it to 900mhz ;)
[07:33] <genoobie> isn't it based on ARM?
[07:33] <Ben64> yep
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> that'd be the cheapest you could get a minecraft machine
[07:33] <dr_willis> dydzEz2_:  i wouldent think so
[07:33] <Ben64> pentium 3 is very very very old
[07:33] <genoobie> okay, hold a sec
[07:34]  * genoobie is googling rpi
[07:34] <dr_willis> if you can get one. :) or more... and not have to wait weeks
[07:34] <Ben64> i have an amd64 sitting here doing nothing, its got to be many times faster than your p3
[07:34] <jellow> Hi there I've installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS though I have no wireless , What do I do ?
[07:34] <dr_willis> Ben64:  same here.. several older pcs in the garrage
[07:34] <badday_> jellow: more information please: what means "I have no", what hardware do u use etc. pp.
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> clusters!
[07:35] <genoobie> oh
[07:35] <dr_willis> jellow:  huh? you mean to be asking 'how do i get wireless working?'
[07:35] <genoobie> Ben64, wanna trade?
[07:35] <genoobie> :)
[07:35] <Ben64> no, i don't want a p3
[07:35] <Ben64> tossed out all that stuff quite a while ago
[07:35] <genoobie> ugh,
[07:35] <genoobie> makes me feel a bit foolish
[07:36] <dr_willis> Ben64:  same here... goodwill wants them
[07:36] <dr_willis> well.. they took them
[07:36] <Ben64> amd64 3200+ is the oldest computer i have now
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> Ben64: what if it were 1ghz?
[07:36] <genoobie> working on this PIII 800MHz, right now
[07:36] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: nah
[07:36] <jellow> badday_: I'm on a Desktop PC does not pick up any interfaces , My card is RTL8101E/RTL8102E
[07:36] <Ben64> genoobie: get something better, you'll probably save money in power usage
[07:37] <genoobie> Ben64, heh
[07:37] <sunsetlover> guys, no one answer my question until now
[07:37] <badday_> jellow: what does ifconfig tell u?
[07:37] <badday_> !patience | sunsetlover
[07:37] <genoobie> okay, will consider it
[07:38] <Ben64> genoobie: if you lived anywhere near me i'd just give you this cpu+mobo
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> IT'S A TRAP!
[07:38] <jellow> badday_: eth0 and lo
[07:38] <genoobie> aeon-ltd, of course it is :)
[07:39] <Ben64> new york is quite far from california though
[07:39] <plafratt> Has anyone run raring on testdrive successfully?
[07:39] <Ben64> eh, i've given components to irc people before
[07:39] <genoobie> jk
[07:39] <genoobie> what if I send a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope :)
[07:39] <Ben64> plafratt: who is testdrive
[07:39] <Ben64> it won't fit in
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> risky too
[07:40] <zykotick9> !13.04 | plafratt
[07:40] <genoobie> it's too bad that these machines aren't very useful
[07:40] <jellow> is module r8169 ethernet or wireless ?
[07:40] <genoobie> word processing and some simple word searches with puppylinux or something
[07:40] <dr_willis> old machine - ssh - terminals ;)
[07:40] <genoobie> simple internet searches I mean
[07:41] <genoobie> loading up "minetest"
[07:42] <plafratt> ubottu: Thanks. I had gone over there earlier and that channel look inactive. Do you know happen to know if there is a time that it is more active?
[07:42] <Ben64> i also have a core 2 duo with a broken motherboard
[07:42] <plafratt> whoops
[07:42] <dr_willis> plafratt:  it is like 3AM on sunday morning. :) ( usa time)   so its going to be slow
[07:43] <Ben64> super bowl sunday
[07:43] <dr_willis> everyone is  busy posting pictures of their cats on reddit........
[07:43] <dr_willis> ;_
[07:43] <genoobie> heh
[07:43] <genoobie> yeah, I dunno, I am not going to buy laptops for my 9yo
[07:44] <plafratt> dr_willis: Ah, :). Well, I thought this one when developers got most of their work done.
[07:44] <genoobie> let them write up some text games in basic
[07:44] <genoobie> that's what I did
[07:44] <genoobie> they can play zork or something
[07:44] <genoobie> maybe run an emulator :)
[07:44] <genoobie> they have a Wii
[07:44] <dr_willis> genoobie:  thats sort of the target audience for the Raspberry Pi
[07:44] <dr_willis> kids learning koding
[07:44] <Ben64> turn your kid into a linux pro
[07:45] <dr_willis> and  hardware hacking
[07:45] <genoobie> well they will be on the PIII 800Mhz
[07:45] <genoobie> :)
[07:45] <genoobie> I've run through about 10 different distributions
[07:45] <genoobie> finally settling on puppylinux
[07:45] <genoobie> it almost ran minecraft :)
[07:45] <genoobie> better than windows
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> genoobie: low end build/donations? you could probably build a pentium/celeron box for a few hundred, if you have donor parts it could be less. prices might drop when intel's haswell line comes in though
[07:45] <dr_willis> problem with Puppy is that they can break it easially.... but  not like it matters much
[07:46] <genoobie> dr_willis, how do you figure?
[07:46] <genoobie> you mean like dragging files around and such?
[07:46] <dr_willis> genoobie:  i used puppy for some time.. you can easially break your setup
[07:46] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: few hundred? I could make a gaming computer for that much
[07:46] <dr_willis> genoobie:  but the way it uses save files.. makes it faily easy to restore..
[07:47] <genoobie> yes, how would you resture?
[07:47] <genoobie> restore I mean.
[07:47] <genoobie> so you have some pup.sfs
[07:47] <genoobie> you make a copy?
[07:47] <dr_willis> you  backup your save files... yes.
[07:47] <genoobie> they bork the one file
[07:47] <genoobie> gotcha
[07:47] <genoobie> restore
[07:47] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:48] <genoobie> okay, anyhow, nite, it's almost 3AM here
[07:48] <genoobie> peace and thanks for the advice everyone
[07:48] <genoobie> BTW, I will never buy another thing off of craigslist again.
[07:48] <dr_willis> you paid money for that? ;)
[07:48] <genoobie> no
[07:48] <genoobie> thank god
[07:48] <genoobie> not that dumb, but maybe someone else is :)
[07:49] <genoobie> hmmm
[07:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:49] <genoobie> yep
[07:49] <genoobie> nite
[07:49] <wsky> so, anyone knows how to activate console kit session?
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> wsky: exec ck-launch-session nameofde/wm as your .xinitrc if you use startx
[07:51] <wsky> yes i got this
[07:51] <wsky> but the session is inactive
[07:52] <wsky> so, basically, dosent work
[07:53] <tumors> Yo is it possible to skip unmet dependencies? It wants me to install fglrx but I'm worried it'll break my current version and i dont want to do it anyways because i'd have to not be using it to do it
[07:54] <guideX> the latest rabbitsvn integrates very nicely in 12.10
[07:54] <guideX> in unity
[07:59] <randimiller> hey everyone
[07:59] <elfer> hi randi
[07:59] <guideX> hi
[07:59] <elfer> :0
[08:01] <randimiller> playing the wireless drivers game tonight.. how about you guys/gals?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> i'm sorry i thought this was america
[08:03] <tumors> Wow this channel is pretty idle these days isnt it
[08:03] <bravis_> :D
[08:04] <idea> MO
[08:04] <guideX> just tonight because it's "super bowl" sunday (or something)
[08:04] <guideX> I don't watch a lot of basketball so ya know..
[08:05] <helmut_> hi
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> hi
[08:05] <idea> HI
[08:05] <guideX> hi
[08:05] <tumors> i should watch the superbowl for the first time
[08:05] <tumors> >Basketball
[08:05] <idea> are thre  chinese people
[08:05] <randimiller> tumors: I had to ask someone today who was playing.. still didn't care after their answer
[08:06] <guideX> yes, I suppose there are chinese people
[08:06] <randimiller> lol
[08:06] <idea> oh
[08:07] <idea> how are you
[08:07] <randimiller> I hate it when someone posts in a forum that they got something working but don't explain how
[08:07] <randimiller> uggg
[08:07] <guideX> hehe
[08:08] <idea> 中文。
[08:08] <wsky> /wc/j #freedesktop
[08:08] <wsky> whoops
[08:09] <randimiller> idea: 英语
[08:09] <randimiller> love google translate
[08:10] <guideX> I reallly love this rabbitsvn, it's the coolest linux thingy yet
[08:11] <idea> I don't understand English.
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> !zh | idea
[08:12] <randimiller> Neither do most english speakers
[08:12] <brady2600> I support the simplified spelling foundation, so we can all understand it. lol.
[08:12] <dr_willis> the new metric alphabet!
[08:14] <guideX> the world should just communicate in c code
[08:14]  * dr_willis runs classic books through grammer checkers  to watch the programs explode
[08:14] <Tex_Nick> hehe
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> guideX: so the same, but with printf?
[08:15] <guideX> yeah
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> replace the caps lock key to type 'printf' then i'm on board
[08:16] <brady2600> can ubuntu be used some how to burn a cd from a cd drive, on another ubuntu box?
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> remote burning?
[08:17] <dr_willis> you mean burn to a cd on a differnt machine?
[08:17] <brady2600> my wifes computer runs ubuntu.  I have no cd burner, her computer does.
[08:17] <dr_willis> make an iso.. send it over.. burn it there
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> ssh? then burning application?
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> or save the ISO to a USB drive for transport to the other box.
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> and then do the burn over on their computer
[08:18] <brady2600> thats not the question im asking, im asking if its possible to load up some application on my machine, and have it miraculously burning on her machine.
[08:18] <guideX> why not use something like hamachi to setup vpn between the two machines
[08:18] <brady2600> im not interested in the usb stick route
[08:18] <dr_willis> brady2600:  never seen such an app
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  no, any such application would be existing on their system and be being accessed from yours
[08:18] <TheLordOfTime> probably via x-forwarding
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> but...
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> i wouldn't even trust *that*
[08:19] <brady2600> via x forwarding , i can load the iso that is on my machine
[08:19] <dr_willis> well with x foerwaerding - you would be  making the cd on their system. ;)   since it wont be accessing local files
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  you would need to scp it to their system
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> scp / ssh file transfer
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  scp /path/to/file/locally user@remotesystemaddress:/path/to/save/file/at/on/remote
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> *maybe*
[08:20] <guideX> you can use neorouter to setup vpn between the two pc's brady... just an idea
[08:20] <brady2600> never heard of scp
[08:20] <dr_willis> !scp
[08:20] <brady2600> i use x11 to get to my raspbian system
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> brady2600:  i'm also assuming the remote system has sshd on it
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> (aka SSH access)
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> s/SSH access/a way for you to SSH to it/
[08:21] <brady2600> it would be cool if there was some sort of ssh tunneled x11 server that could do scp , but intigrated as a drive somehow
[08:21] <guideX> you can have your wife downstairs, yelling the individual bytes from downstairs
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[08:22] <dr_willis> there may be some network burning services out there.. but uve never noticed them.. never needed them
[08:22] <brady2600> ONE ZERO ONE ONE ZERO ZERRO!!
[08:22] <dr_willis> burnind across the network would seem to have high potential for bad burns/underruns
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> brady2600: turns out to be rick astley
[08:23] <dr_willis> you could make up a service that takes iso files from some upload directory and burns them  automacially
[08:23] <brady2600> rick astley?
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> never gonna give you up
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: dropbox then scripting?
[08:24] <brady2600> damn.. i believe my music taste diqualifies me from understanding that
[08:24] <dr_willis> i imagine scping or ftpong to thee server would be faster
[08:25] <dr_willis> i cant even recall the last time i burnt a cd or dvd...
[08:25] <OerHeks> of rick astley ?
[08:26] <dr_willis> havent bought any blanks in ages...   even the dual layer dvds seem to 'tight' on space to store much to them ;)
[08:27]  * dr_willis wouldent know rick astley if  he saw him...
[08:27] <Hund> Does anyone knows how to get the function keys to work in Byobu?
[08:27] <dr_willis> Hund:  you using the console? or gnome-terminal? or what exactly withit?
[08:28] <Hund> dr_willis: I have tried both gnome-terminal, xfce-terminal and urxvt
[08:28] <dr_willis> some terminal apps ocverride the byou f keys..
[08:28] <dr_willis> override
[08:29] <dr_willis> check the terminal apps settings..
[08:29] <dr_willis> i hate it when a terminal emulator decides IT needs my F10 key....
[08:30] <dr_willis> almost as annoying as keeping f1 dedicated for a 'help menu' ;)
[08:30] <Hund> dr_willis: lol, I forgot to test tmux with urxvt. That worked. :P
[08:30] <dr_willis> i only use tmux/byobu over my android phone. ;)  rarely use it in an actual terminal app
[08:31] <Hund> dr_willis: Im using it on my server. I run a bunch of stuff there and its esier to manage them all with byobu. :)
[08:34] <xinglenick> hello, anyone knows where is the file that the language,lang locale var is defined by language support ?
[08:36] <nearst> xinglenick, whereis locale
[08:37] <xinglenick> nearst: you mean /etc/default/locale file ?
[08:39] <nearst> xinglenick, ya. u can see locale-gen output at /usr/lib/locale
[08:42] <xinglenick> hi, i eidt /etc/default/locale, set lang to en_US.utf8, language to en, and ran update-locale to update my locale, but locale still not changed
[08:42] <dr_willis> !locale
[08:43] <nearst> xinglenick, check your localedef too
[08:43] <theadmin> xinglenick: It should be en_US.UTF-8
[08:44] <theadmin> xinglenick: Make sure the locale is generated, too: sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8
[08:48] <Botanic> how can I make it so that an application has an icon? I made a .desktop file but when i launch it directly it still shows no icon, http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6106/71677374.png
[08:48] <dr_willis> directly mesning?
[08:48] <xGeek> Hello, is there something like internet download manager in ubuntu ?
[08:48] <dr_willis> meaning?
[08:48] <xinglenick> theadmin, yes, i have change it to LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE=en, then ran sudo update-locale, but locale still not unchange
[08:49] <xinglenick> sorry, locale still the same
[08:49] <nearst> xGeek, thereis a lot like wget, aria2. google uget for gtk downloader
[08:49] <xGeek> nearst: and i can downlad facebook video with ?
[08:50] <theadmin> xinglenick: Are you sure your user doesn't have it's own locale set?
[08:52] <nearst> xGeek, not sure. usually video stream in linux located at /tmp . never thought to download facebook vids
[08:52] <xinglenick> theadmin, i also ran sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 , sudo update-locale, but it still not work
[08:54] <xinglenick> theadmin, i cheack my ~/.profile .bashrc but i can't see anything about LANGUAGE, LANG locale var
[08:54] <theadmin> xinglenick: Maybe you should "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[08:55] <guideX> is there anything like gedit which has syntax highlighting but as simple as say notepad for windows?
[08:55] <dr_willis> try geany
[08:56] <guideX> geany eh
[08:56] <guideX> ok
[08:56] <iceroot> guideX: or "leafpad" standard editor on lxde/lubuntu
[08:56] <theadmin> iceroot: I don't think leafpad has syntax highlighting.
[08:56] <dr_willis> !info xfte
[08:57] <dr_willis> !info fte
[08:57] <guideX> only beef I have with gedit, is the code looks ugly in other editors afterwards
[08:57] <iceroot> guideX: looks ugly?
[08:57] <dr_willis> wwhat a weird  'beef'
[08:57] <xinglenick> theadmin, my locale shows me LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8, LANGUAGE=zh_CN:en_US:en
[08:57] <guideX> the tabs and spaces don't look right
[08:57] <guideX> a beef meaning, I'm mad at it
[08:58] <dr_willis> set your edittors to show tabs the same....
[08:58] <iceroot> guideX:how a tab is displayed is part of the editor. in the text itself there is just a \t
[08:58] <iceroot> guideX: gedit is not changing the code
[08:58] <guideX> hmm weird
[08:58] <guideX> I wonder why it's so different then
[08:59] <guideX> when I get it back to any of the editors I'm used to, the code looks like it's all over the place
[08:59] <xinglenick> the zh_CN:en_US:en sequence is the same as "language support" shows
[09:00] <iceroot> theadmin: you are right, it does not have syntax-highlight
[09:03] <theadmin> xinglenick: Well, in desktop systems, use that app to change language preferences.
[09:06] <theadmin> iceroot: Also, I think gedit (as well as some other editors) replaces tabs with 4 spaces or such.
[09:06] <guideX> yeah I was really hopeing for an editor with configurable tab
[09:06] <guideX> so I can change it to two spaces :>
[09:06] <theadmin> guideX: You can try FTE or Geany
[09:07] <guideX> hmm ok
[09:07] <xinglenick> theadmin: i have just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, and the command is successfully executed, but locale still shows me the same
[09:08] <theadmin> xinglenick: Again, if you are on a desktop system, use gnome-language-selector ("Language Support") to reconfigure languages.
[09:10] <sunsetlover> sorry guys my computer crashed so i didn't followed the answer about my question, so inform me if you get an answer
[09:13] <vrnithin> hi
[09:13] <donnie> No one seems to be alive in xubuntu. Does anyone here know how to do stuff to it if I describe a problem I'm starting to have?
[09:14] <theadmin> donnie: Well, describe it first
[09:14] <vrnithin> what to do when ubuntu installer is not detecting the free space ?
[09:14] <donnie>  I'm starting to run sluggish. All I have open is Chrome, and audacious. How come I'm freezing up, and my fan goes into crazy mode?
[09:14] <badday> vrnithin: tell some more details, please
[09:14] <badday> vrnithin: such as hardware configuration etc.
[09:14] <vrnithin> i was trying to install ubuntu 12.10 out side windows 7
[09:14] <theadmin> donnie: Open any kind of task manager and see what's consuming CPU time and memory.
[09:15] <theadmin> donnie: htop, for example
[09:15] <badday> vrnithin: that means that u have windows on one partition and some space free on the HDD?
[09:15] <guideX> is there a windowed task manager out there?
[09:15] <vrnithin> ya
[09:15] <donnie> theadmin: be nice if it'd stop bouncing around :)
[09:15] <guideX> I really miss "task manager" from windows
[09:16] <theadmin> guideX: Yeah, all Ubuntu versions come with one built-in.
[09:16] <badday> guideX: never say something like that on this channel, never!
[09:16] <vrnithin> badday: but i cant check select that free space for making a ext4  root and swap
[09:17] <guideX> oh didn't know about the built in one
[09:17] <badday> vrnithin: tell me something about the partition sheme of ur HDD please
[09:17] <donnie> Isn't swap supposed to be a way of allowing things to move around freely and not clog stuff up?
[09:17] <vrnithin> badday: i have 3 partitions in windows one C D E
[09:17] <theadmin> donnie: Sorta... But slowness is often caused by an extensive CPU use.
[09:17] <theadmin> vrnithin: Er. Are they all primary?
[09:17] <vrnithin> badday: ya
[09:18] <vrnithin> theadmin:ya
[09:18] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well then, you can only create one more partition, you don't have enough free partitions for two more.
[09:18] <theadmin> vrnithin: So here's what you do: make an extended partition, put the swap and root inside it.
[09:19] <vrnithin> theadmin: when i tried to create one partition from my free space its showing some warning about dynamic disc or something
[09:19] <donnie> I could use PCBSD.. I heard that's fast and light
[09:19] <nearst> guideX, try htop
[09:19] <theadmin> vrnithin: That doesn't tell me anything, I'd need the exact warning...
[09:20] <guideX> I like htop, but it'd be nice if it were a windowed app
[09:20] <theadmin> donnie: You could try Xubuntu. That's light. Or Lubuntu.
[09:20] <guideX> something with a real listbox
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: Search for "Task Manager" in the menus. You most certainly have one.
[09:20] <donnie> theadmin. I am on xubuntu and that's why I'm surprised it's going sluggish
[09:20] <guideX> hmm ok
[09:20] <theadmin> donnie: Hm... yeah that's odd
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: Well, if it's a default Ubuntu install, it'd be gnome-task-manager
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: On Xfce it's xfce4-task-manager
[09:21] <theadmin> Err, xfce4-taskmanager
[09:21] <theadmin> !info gnome-taskmanger
[09:21] <theadmin> !info gnome-task-manager
[09:21] <theadmin> Eh.
[09:21] <guideX> when i type task manager  it doesn't come up
[09:21] <theadmin> guideX: Actually, it's gnome-system-monitor, my bad
[09:21] <guideX> in the dash menu
[09:21] <guideX> ah ok
[09:21] <vrnithin> theadmin: when i tried to create a partition in ubuntu installation time i cant select the free space
[09:22] <nearst> htop just cool
[09:22] <vrnithin> theadmin: is it because i have already 3 primary partition ?
[09:22] <nearst> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-use-xfce4-terminal-06x-as-drop.html << remember me of yakuake kde application
[09:22] <guideX> aha...
[09:22] <guideX> system monitor is good
[09:22] <theadmin> vrnithin: You have 3 primary partitions... That's too many, Ubuntu needs root and swap and root has to be a primary so...
[09:22] <guideX> has the list of programs, and a "kill it" button :)
[09:23] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well, you could do a manual partitioning and go without swap, if you have enough RAM for that.
[09:24] <vrnithin> theadmin: i have 4 gb ram
[09:24] <vrnithin> theadmin: but i cant even create root
[09:24] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well, that's more than enough. Just a side note, you won't be able to hibernate without swap.
[09:24] <theadmin> vrnithin: Huh. That's odd, to say the least. How much free space do you have?
[09:25] <theadmin> guideX: Just so you know, htop reacts to mouse input too
[09:25] <lundy> morning all, iv just installed Ubuntu 12 onto my Laptop, im just wondering how can i change this left hand dock
[09:25] <xinglenick> hi, theadmin i fixed it, i found my /default/locale changed, but i not sure it was changed by the gnome-language-selector or it was changed by dpkg-reconfigure locales because i had forgotten to check the contents of /etc/default/locale after ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure lacales
[09:25] <lundy> so that iv got icons left to right on my screen
[09:25] <guideX> well yeah, but system monitor was exactly what I was looking for
[09:26] <theadmin> lundy: Unfortunately there's no way to move the Unity dock around yet :/ Crazy thing.
[09:26] <vedic> If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:26] <lundy> anyway of removing it or changing my desktop
[09:27] <theadmin> lundy: You can change your desktop. I suggest trying Xfce for an uncluttered user experience, click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <guideX> oo geany looks nice
[09:28] <lundy> kk
[09:28] <theadmin> !purexfce | lundy, also see this for removing the packages from plain Ubuntu:
[09:29] <vrnithin> theadmin: 50 gb
[09:29] <theadmin> vrnithin: Huh. Okay, now I'm confused.
[09:29] <vrnithin> theadmin: i made that 50 gb by shrinking  of of my primary partition
[09:30] <vedic> If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:30] <Rip003> how do I install the wifi drivers for my mac mini in ubuntu? I can't use ethernet as a heads up.
[09:30] <theadmin> vrnithin: Shouldn't matter where it came from :D
[09:31] <vrnithin> theadmin: why cant i do anything on that free space ?
[09:31] <xinglenick> theadmin: i changed the order of language via gnome-language-selector, then i ran sudo update-locale, but locale still not changed. Then I cat /etc/default/locale, i found the content was different from before: some other LC_* added, so i changed LANGUAGE to en_US:en:zh_CN  and sudo update-locale . now it work
[09:32] <theadmin> vrnithin: Honestly no idea.
[09:33] <vrnithin> theadmin: so whats to do to install Ubuntu ...i dont want it along windows
[09:33] <theadmin> vrnithin: So, you want to destroy Windows? Then just delete the Windows partitions (unless you have important data, then back that up) and install Ubuntu on the empty drive
[09:35] <lundy> im looking for cloud which offers great storage for free or very cheap... Google and DropBox just ant good storage for the price ...
[09:35] <lundy> anyone know any
[09:35] <vrnithin> theadmin: i want both..:)
[09:35] <Rip003> lundy: tried Ubuntu 1?
[09:35] <lundy> 5gb free ?
[09:35] <Rip003> lundy: yep
[09:36] <lundy> ill need like 300gb :/
[09:36] <xinglenick> theadmin: thank you for you help!
[09:36] <lundy> I did try "owncloud" and installed onto my web server... but the desktop client is crap for windows, dont think it will be much good on linux
[09:37] <Rip003> lundy: why do you need 300GB in the cloud?
[09:37] <lundy> Rip003, music, video, documents ...
[09:38] <Rip003> lundy: is it just to sync across your home? it might be worth looking at a router that hooks up to an external drive?
[09:38] <theadmin> Rip003: There's sparkleshare for syncing across computers without the need of actual storage. Part of the GNOME project.
[09:39] <lundy> Rip003, that would cost cash which I dont have at the moment
[09:39] <theadmin> Rip003: Or owncloud, for installing on your own server.
[09:39] <lundy> I used owncloud on my web server
[09:40] <lundy> but the windows client kept coming up "cannot sync a file"
[09:40] <lvx> this rocks
[09:40] <lvx> owncloud
[09:40] <lundy> just found that it wasnt up to the standard of Google Drive or DropBox
[09:42] <Rip003> lundy: I don't know what to suggest then, I can't think of a cloud service that'll offer that sort of space without charging
[09:42] <vedic> how to enable ufw on remove server? I am connected to that server via ssh and if I enable ufw, it will stop my ssh. Is it possible to allow ssh before enabling ufw?
[09:42] <lundy> Rip003, i was thinking about turning my old PC into a server but dunno if the WIfe will let me ... as it will bump up our electric bill
[09:43] <theadmin> vedic: sudo ufw allow ssh
[09:43] <vedic> theadmin: that will enable as well as allow ssh?
[09:43] <Rip003> lundy: you could do that I guess, you don't have to leave it running all the time just switch it on when you need it, a pain but saves the electric
[09:43] <vedic> theadmin: currently ufw is not active
[09:43] <theadmin> vedic: It won't enable UFW yet, just create the rule.
[09:44] <theadmin> vedic: You can enable it later.
[09:44] <vedic> ok
[09:44] <lundy> Rip003, was thinking that ..
[09:44] <theadmin> vedic: Just "sudo ufw enable" for that.
[09:44] <dydzEz2_> anyone here have a thinkpad x1 carbon
[09:44] <dydzEz2_> or anyone here dual boot iwndows 8 with grub?
[09:45] <vedic> theadmin: yea that has worked. Thank you
[09:45] <Rip003> lundy: that's more practical than forking out for masses of cloud storage and you already know it works
[09:46] <vedic> theadmin: How to disallow all other ports? ufw verbose shows that 22 is allowed from anywhere but no information about disallowed
[09:46] <theadmin> vedic: sudo ufw default deny incoming
[09:46] <lundy> Rip003, yeah but wot software would the server run off to have the cloud on it?
[09:47] <Rip003> lundy: you mean your old pc? haven't a clue, don't mess with networks an awful lot, don't understand ssh and all that jazz
[09:48] <lundy> ah kk, i know enough to get me past
[09:48] <vedic> theadmin: That has changed the default incoming to deny.  But ufw status or verbose shows only 22 allowed. No mention of any other thing
[09:48] <theadmin> vedic: Well, yes, that's how it is. Those are the rules you have, currently you have only ssh, that is, port 22 allowed for incoming, anything else blocked.
[09:48] <roger21> hey
[09:49] <vedic> theadmin: I see
[09:49] <theadmin> vedic: Creating rules for *every* port is just too much, so that's what the default rule is for.
[09:49] <vedic> ok
[09:49] <guideX> how do you setup a hostname in ubuntu?
[09:49] <vedic> theadmin: If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:50] <guideX> in windows, I would edit the "hosts" file
[09:50] <roger21> the ubuntu installer seems to create mbr partion, is it a problem i i give him a gpt partioned disk (and so not repartitoning it at install) ?
[09:50] <llutz> !hostname | guideX
[09:50] <roger21> if i*
[09:50] <theadmin> guideX: /etc/hosts is the hosts file on Ubuntu. Same format as on Windows.
[09:50] <guideX> ah ok
[09:50] <guideX> cool thx
[09:50] <roger21> !gpt
[09:50] <Rip003> I hope to almighty Linus that this guide I found for my mac's wifi works
[09:50] <theadmin> guideX: Well, it's easier to just update /etc/hostname and reboot, it will auto-update hosts
[09:51] <guideX> that's what i'll do
[09:51] <BlackWeb> Does ubuntu12.04 use  lightdm as the default or gdm
[09:52] <theadmin> BlackWeb: lightdm
[09:52] <theadmin> BlackWeb: On Kubuntu, it's KDM, but lightdm for all others. Since 12.10, lightdm is default on all Ubuntu versions.
[09:52] <Rip003> oh you've gotta be kidding me
[09:52] <lundy> sorry to seem a noob here but iv installed Xubuntu desktop but dunno how to enable it
[09:52] <BlackWeb> I've been trying to change the login screen for a long timenow I've googled all possible solutions and seems like nothing works
[09:52] <Rip003> the b43-fwcutter deb packaged on the cd requires an internet connection?
[09:53] <theadmin> lundy: Log out, click the sessions icon, choose "Xubuntu Session" and log in.
[09:53] <lundy> :/
[09:53] <dydzEz2_> man i just want to load w8 from grub with xubuntu
[09:53] <dydzEz2_> this stupid UEFI thing is so annoying, id install windows 7 if this laptop didnt come with w8 and had a nice system recovery suite
[09:53] <BlackWeb> I'm using 12.04 so its uses it also  as default I have gdm installed If I was to remove lightdm then would I'd run into problems with the system?
[09:54] <theadmin> BlackWeb: No, there won't be any problem... Just make sure to keep at least some login manager installed
[09:54] <BlackWeb> Would lightdm be the problem to why the login screen wont change?
[09:54] <dr_willis> change in what way?
[09:55] <Rip003> guys how do I install b43-fwcutter offline?
[09:55] <cocomo> hi, i extended path variable by include a .sh file in /etc/profile.d/ but the added paths in that file are not found when i do sudo [command], they work okay when i don't acces them as root
[09:56] <cocomo> btw i am trying to use 'go' compiler but it isn't found using 'sudo go' but 'go' works
[09:56] <theadmin> cocomo: You'd need to update the PATH systemwide for it to work with root, use /etc/environment for that.
[09:56] <cocomo> theadmin: okay ty
[09:56] <dr_willis> why would a compiler need to run as root?
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: For crazy commands like "go get".
[09:57] <cocomo> dr_willis: it get the files from internet and probably saves it somewhere the root has only access to
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Compilers nowadays :/ They come with package managers, debuggers, crazy stuff
[09:57] <dr_willis> no idea what go is then. ;)
[09:57] <dr_willis> !info go
[09:57] <dr_willis> go is a no go
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: The compiler for Google's "go" language. I don't think it's in the repos.
[09:58] <cocomo> dr_willis: it is golang compiler and i use command go get
[09:58] <cocomo> ur right
[09:58]  * dr_willis sticks to Scratch
[09:58] <dr_willis> !info scratch
[09:59] <dr_willis> its more my speed.. heh
[09:59] <cocomo> :D
[10:01] <Rip003> damn, I don't think this guide has worked
[10:01] <rigel> http://pastebin.com/HJRVzksB
[10:01] <rigel> i have no idea how to fucking fix this
[10:01] <rigel> help me
[10:01] <rigel> because the bluez fuckasses wont
[10:01] <FloodBot1> rigel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Tm_T> rigel: please language and patience
[10:01] <roger21> the ubuntu installer seems to create mbr partion, is it a problem if i give him a gpt partioned disk (and so not repartitoning it at install) ?
[10:02] <dr_willis> if the disk is alllready partioned i would think it would keep the type
[10:02] <Rip003> how do I install b43-fwcutter offline?
[10:02] <dr_willis> you can install to gpt partioned disks from what ive seen..  - never really tried it here.
[10:03] <dr_willis> !b43
[10:03] <roger21> no of course, i meant could ubuntu could have general issue with gpt?
[10:03] <roger21> ok
[10:03] <roger21> we should
[10:04] <dr_willis> Rip003:  the askubuntu.com site may have a more spcific guide also.. I got a $5 usb wireless dongls that dosent need extra drivers.. so for a friends laptop with b43 i just used that dongle to get teh files
[10:04] <roger21> i don't get why ubuntu eliminates non-pae system and still use mbr by defayult
[10:04] <Rip003> dr_willis: but the drivers do work once they get installed?
[10:05] <dr_willis> Rip003:  i imagine it depends on your exact chipset.. those b4xxx can be a pain
[10:05] <Rip003> dr_willis: I think it's the 4301 in the mac mini
[10:05] <dr_willis> for under $20 you can get wireless dongles that are fully supported out of the box. ;)
[10:06] <dr_willis> got a 150speed one for $5
[10:07] <erupter> hi guys. If I make a clone of my ubuntu partition (which is not the only one on the disk, nor the first) to another disk to resize it and then copy it back, what do I have to be sure remains unchanged in order to boot?
[10:08] <Rip003> dr_willis: I have a dongle in the house, don't know if it's supported and I don't know where it is
[10:08] <dr_willis> make sure the uuids stay the same erupter
[10:08] <Rip003> dr_willis: I don't particularly want to have to buy one for the sake of installing drivers
[10:08] <dr_willis> Rip003:  came in handy on several  occasions here.
[10:09] <dr_willis> one of the best $5 i spent
[10:09] <Guest47388> Does anyone know why when I use x11 forwarding, it looks different than the same program run locally?  (the x11 version looks "older")
[10:09] <iceroot> erupter: the first 512bytes of the drive (not the partition) are important
[10:09] <iceroot> erupter: and of course the partition itself
[10:09] <dr_willis> Guest47388:  whats differnt? the fonts? the window decorations?
[10:09] <Guest47388> Both
[10:09] <Guest47388> even how bold the lines are in the application
[10:10] <iceroot> Guest47388: its using plain X instead of the theme and so on you are using normally
[10:10] <iceroot> Guest47388: so the theme on the real machine will not be used, its just plain x
[10:10] <Guest47388> Anyway to tell the server to use not plain x?
[10:10] <dr_willis> it uses the theme and settings on the local box? ive never really noticed
[10:11] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:11] <Sakki> howdy
[10:11] <Guest47388> Ok... so theme up the localbox... now that shouldn't be too hard...
[10:11] <dydzEz2_> has anyone with w8 dual boot used boot repair here
[10:11] <Guest47388> Thanks both of you!
[10:12] <badday> does anyone know the dpkg command for setting the default desktop manager?
[10:12] <erupter> iceroot, well say I change the number of the partition, would it boot?
[10:12] <Sakki> Question...is the UCP still an active cert?
[10:12] <erupter> iceroot, it would most probably also change the uuid
[10:12] <erupter> so that at least I must update in the fstab/boot config
[10:13] <iceroot> erupter: reinstalling grub after that i guess i needed
[10:13] <iceroot> erupter: and yes /etc/fstab also needs an update
[10:14] <FRIGN> hello
[10:16] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  if you find your dongle this might helpto determine compatibility ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:17] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: pretty sure it's a TP-Link but dunno what model lol
[10:19] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  i understand ... this lists TP-Link models ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link#USB ... good luck :-)
[10:20] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: lol, found it, it's the model right at the top
[10:21] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  jeeze you have good Karma ... had it been me ... would have been at bottom of a LONG list ... ;-)
[10:23] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: I just hope the wifi works once the drivers install
[10:25] <Rip003> Tex_nick: uh oh, looks like wherever it's trying to download the firmware from doesn't exist anymore, keeps timing out
[10:28] <cute_bettong> is the ati driver broken for dual monitors in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:29] <dr_willis> Rip003:  what ubuntu release?
[10:29] <cute_bettong> ubuntu 12.04
[10:29] <Rip003> dr_willis: quantal
[10:29] <dr_willis> hmmm.. odd
[10:30] <dr_willis> did yu do a sudo apt-get update first?
[10:30] <cute_bettong> join #ati
[10:30] <Rip003> dr_willis: it's not the ppa timing out it's this lwfinger.com where it's trying to download the tarbz2 from
[10:30] <dr_willis> no idea then.. could be the sites down. or somthing i guess...
[10:32] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  you said the model was at the top of the list ... is it the TL-WN321G ?
[10:32] <Rip003> Tex_nick: yep
[10:33] <cute_bettong> hi im running a samsung chronos series 7 with 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the os shows dual monitors but the amd catalyst drivers do not show any montors in the catalyst settings, is it broken?
[10:33] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  ok let me give it a shot
[10:33] <Rip003> tex_nick: it works fine, problem now is the site for the b43 firmware is dead
[10:34] <dr_willis> cute_bettong:  ive seen some cases where you have to have bothj monitors plugged in  when you first power on the pc..  no idea if thats your issue or not..  also with some laptops i recall having to fiddle with the fn-whatever key to enable the external display
[10:34] <thomedy> hey i am setting my  my lamp install to run mails.. i have my ssmtp port to 465 and my path to/usr/sbin/ssmtp -t
[10:34] <thomedy> how close am i
[10:35] <Rip003> dr_willis: oh dear, just looked at the ppa and it hasn't updated for quantal, it's still on precise
[10:35] <thomedy> im using this http://mattsk.blogspot.com/2010/09/configure-lamp-on-ubuntu-1004-to-send.html
[10:35] <Kneferilis> hello, I want to improve my linux commands, bash shell scripting knowledge, but I don't want to get an extra linux pc or use a virtual solution like virtua box with a linux image or have a linux in windows solution, instead I want an account with linux shell access, what do you suggest?
[10:36] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, did you have to reboot after hitting the f-key?
[10:36] <POVaddct> Rip003: according to the tp-link website there are five(!) hardware revisions of the TL-WN321G
[10:36] <POVaddct> Rip003: which one do you have?
[10:36] <Kneferilis> I got myself an account at sdf.org and I liked it, but it was bsd after all, not linux
[10:36] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, i just tried that and catalyst still isen't showing dual screens any other suggestions?
[10:37] <Rip003> POVaddct: I've no idea but it works, problem is the site for the b43 tar is down and I don't know how to install it manually
[10:37] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  were you trying that from the TP-Link Site ?
[10:37] <POVaddct> Rip003: here is how you can find out: http://www.tp-link.com.de/Article/?id=46
[10:39] <Rip003> POVaddct: it's v4 as shown
[10:40] <Rip003> POVaddct: Tex_Nick as I say though, the dongle isn't the problem, it's the site I'm trying to get the actual b43 driver tarball, keeps returning 404's
[10:40] <POVaddct> Rip003: i thought the b43 driver is for pci devices only
[10:41] <Rip003> POVaddct: it is, I'm using the tp-link dongle to get the network connection necessary to use my mac's inbuilt wifi
[10:41] <POVaddct> Rip003: ah okay
[10:42] <Rip003> POVaddct: I would try to get the firmware again but if the site is down then there's no hope
[10:43] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  how are you connected to the net now ? ... on another box ?
[10:43] <veldmuijz> hi
[10:43] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: no I was using the dongle
[10:44] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:44] <veldmuijz> Can somebody help me?
[10:44] <zlszk_> #define NSMALLBINS        (32U),which  header file defined 32U?
[10:46] <POVaddct> Tex_Nick: the dongle works without problems (rt2870 chipset). he wants to make the internal broadcom card work.
[10:46] <thomedy> can someone point me to  a straight forward tutorial on setting up mail from my lampp install
[10:47] <thomedy> 12,04
[10:47] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:47] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:47] <veldmuijz> Can somebody help me?
[10:47] <FloodBot1> veldmuijz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <Tex_Nick> POVaddct : ahhh ok i just woke up and popped into channel a bit ago ... missed some of that
[10:47] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > what is the problem ?
[10:48] <POVaddct> Rip003: i don't know much about the b43 firmware issue. i always try to avoid broadcom cards.
[10:48] <Rip003> POVaddct: Tex_nick: I've sent mpodroid guy a message, hopefully he'll get it and update the hosting service for the tarball, until he does that I'm stuck xD
[10:48] <POVaddct> Rip003: found this link: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[10:48] <veldmuijz> ok here is the problem
[10:49] <veldmuijz> i was recovering data from a 2 tb harddisk (xternal) with testdisk
[10:49] <veldmuijz> i used copy to copy all the data over to the my home partition in a backup file
[10:50] <veldmuijz> the external harddisk data was bigger then my entire harddisk partition for ubuntu and it has written all over it
[10:50] <veldmuijz> so when i rebooted the system couldn't load the gui anymore got errors
[10:51] <veldmuijz> i could get in the tty2 so i tried to recover my partitions to the old with testdisk
[10:51] <Fuzzles> Finally fully got rid of windows and did a full switch :)
[10:51] <veldmuijz> my partitions where all deleted except for my ntfs partitino (win7 dual boot)
[10:52] <Tex_Nick> POVaddct , Rip003 : that looks like a good link]
[10:52] <veldmuijz> only /sda6 remained and the ntfs partition
[10:52] <veldmuijz> when i scanned the harddisk it recognized my partitions so i tried to recovr it with testisk
[10:52] <veldmuijz> but after a reboot grub wouldn't load anymore
[10:52] <veldmuijz> so now i am at a loss
[10:53] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: yeah, sitting in their IRC now, if I knew where the package downloaded to then I could try finding it myself and inserting it but I don't
[10:53] <veldmuijz> currently on another netbook
[10:53] <veldmuijz> currently on another netbook/
[10:53] <veldmuijz> so can someone help me?
[10:55] <vedic> Is there any guide/tutorial on how to setup a minimal email server which allows sending of email but no receiving. I want to do it so that logwatcher can keep sending email automatically
[10:55] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > could you see all the data after the recovery ?
[10:56] <veldmuijz> i can see it from the livecd
[10:56] <shinao1> hi Im using 12.10 and i just installed enlightenment e17. But selecting it as a session does not work.. it just falls back to gnome-shell or unity. Please what am i doing wrong?
[10:56] <veldmuijz> i can see all the data /boot /etc and all that and  /home
[10:56] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: POVaddct: I've asked a question relating to the b43-fwcutter package too about the site, I'm sure somewhere there's a copy they can upload to a different service
[10:56] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > is /etc/fstab intact ?
[10:57] <veldmuijz> 'll check
[10:57] <veldmuijz> drmagoo > no it is not :(
[10:58] <vedic> It is better to setup a cron job which pulls the output of admin commands like logwatcher or denyhosts etc and place it in a directory which is sync via rsync?
[10:58] <vedic> instead of setting up a local email server?
[10:58] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > is it empty ?
[10:58] <veldmuijz> it shows overlayfs rw 0 0 and tmpfs /tmp nosuid,nodev
[10:59] <veldmuijz> drmagoo > no but close to it
[10:59] <wind_> Hi all, I can't setup twinkle under ubuntu 12.10. I need help!
[10:59] <Kala087> Hi can someone help me with upg
[11:00] <mtraker> hi
[11:01] <Kala087> With upgrading new Ubuntu
[11:01] <mtraker> I can't run X in live cd in ppc version
[11:02] <mtraker> I've a g3 and run ok the terminal but the X it's only a black window
[11:02] <mtraker> Can you help me?
[11:04] <wind_> i can't install twinkle uner ubuntu 12.10
[11:05] <vedic> I am getting this msg: you have new mail in /var/mail/tiger
[11:05] <vedic> What does that mean? and how to check that?
[11:06] <wind_> check "vi /var/mail/tiger" Ctrl+G (last line)
[11:07] <wind_> Twinkle under ubuntu 12.10... can't install, plz help)
[11:08] <Industrial> How do I replace openjdk-7-jre with the one from oracle?
[11:08] <eudmar> how do i make my ubuntu faster?
[11:08] <Industrial> eudmar, you buy better hardware. what kind of a question is that ..
[11:08] <vedic> wind_: use synaptic
[11:08] <wind_> eudmar, u can google this problem
[11:09] <vedic> wind_: what problem do you face?
[11:09] <eudmar> ok
[11:09] <wind_> vedic, i can'tinstall twinkle (softphone) under ubuntu 12.10.
[11:09] <wind_> it was removed from repository
[11:09] <Fuzzles> anyone know when steam for linux comes out of beat?
[11:10] <Fuzzles> beta*
[11:10] <vedic> eudmar: Increase RAM, reduce GUI effects, unnecessary packages and disable services do you don't need by default.
[11:10] <eudmar> I installed ubuntu, but it crashes, I installed another graph and not fought like kurumun, why?
[11:10] <wind_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/226360/ubuntu-12-10-how-to-get-sip-phone-twinkle-latest-version-working-using-deb-or
[11:10] <Tex_Nick> Rip003 : have you looked at this link ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/235049/my-mac-mini-late-2012-will-not-show-any-wireless-networks-ubuntu-12-10
[11:10] <vedic> wind_: What problem you face when installed that softphone? Did you try synaptic package manager?
[11:10] <eudmar> I have 4 gigs of ram
[11:11] <Tex_Nick> too late :(
[11:11] <wind_> no, i didn't
[11:11] <vedic> wind_: try that.
[11:11] <wind_> http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/general/8712808
[11:12] <vedic> wind_: only you can understand that page
[11:12] <Industrial> Why does ubuntu install OpenJDK with the package default-jre? I'm trying to run Webstorm, which warns agains openJDK, and it looks ugly as hell. not like in windows or OSX.
[11:12] <eudmar> TEM alguem Que Fala los portugês
[11:12] <Industrial> all rough edged fonts, chunky graphics from 1995 :(
[11:13] <wind_> i tried install it from deb,  libboost-regex1.46.1 dependency not found
[11:13] <eudmar> which the graph faster for linux? how to install
[11:14] <wind_> this package was removed in 12.10: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/libboost-regex1.46.1
[11:15] <vedic> wind_: do you know anything about synaptic or apt-get? Why don't you try them?
[11:15] <Industrial> How do I switch from OpenJDK to NOT openJDK, whatever that may be? Can I install Oracle JDK on Ubuntu?
[11:16] <Industrial> http://images.gammatester.com/pics/87102b4307b07b4c3f5ff1ce13680784.png
[11:16] <Industrial> fonts look shitty with OpenJDK
[11:16] <Korny2> uninstall openjdk install oracle
[11:16] <Industrial> whats the package?
[11:16] <Industrial> the package default-jre installs openjdk
[11:17] <Korny2> Actually its been a while, if I remeber right there is a way to just choose what java you want ot use
[11:18] <Tex_Nick> Industrial : please keep the language family friendly ... we have kids here at times :-)
[11:19] <Korny2> Industrial, http://java.dzone.com/articles/choosing-java-version-ubuntu
[11:19] <Industrial> thanks!
[11:20] <Guest9988> can you tell me how to install java compiler in ubuntu
[11:20] <Guest9988> ?
[11:20] <luca> Installazione pacchetti Ubunto, messaggio "Richiede l'installazione di pacchetti non fidati"
[11:21] <Guest9988> luca tell me in english
[11:21] <Tex_Nick> !it | luca
[11:22] <test___> !mars | luca
[11:22] <test___> :-(
[11:22] <test___> Hi all!
[11:22] <test___> When will be 13.04?
[11:23] <theadmin> test___: April, 2013. That's what the version numbers mean, year.month
[11:23] <flcl> hello
[11:23] <test___> I know but alpha?
[11:23] <theadmin> test___: #ubuntu+1 for the discussion of unreleased versions, not here
[11:23] <mtraker> the live version for ppc is it only lubuntu ?
[11:24] <thoughtfulgoblin> hey i'm running apt-get upgrade and i get The following packages cannot be authenticated! for  libnacl-optimized.. now that sounds kinda scary for something that involves ACLs .. any idea why i'm getting the message, if i should continue or what i can do to fix the issues
[11:25] <lundy> hi guys just loaded xubuntu-desktop .... loaded it up and selected "blank profile" :/ how can i load the default template ?
[11:25] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Are you using any third-party repositories (aka PPAs)?
[11:25] <thoughtfulgoblin> I'm not sure, it's a default VM
[11:25] <thoughtfulgoblin> from my provider.. is there anyway i can check?
[11:26] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> pitti-postgresql-precise.list
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> just that
[11:26] <theadmin> lundy: Well, you could remove ~/.xfce4/, but just right-click the panel and add whatever you feel necessary, that's more customization for you
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: inside that file it has deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pitti/postgresql/ubuntu precise main
[11:27] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: ...This repo is odd
[11:27] <lundy> theadmin, i want the default one as a template ...
[11:27] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: But well, that's not what's causing the problem.
[11:27] <lundy> then ill customize it over time
[11:28] <theadmin> lundy: Then remove ~/.xfce4 and re-login
[11:28] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: hmmm.. right it looks like that's what it's using for postgres.. but i thought postgres would be in the standard list of packages
[11:28] <lundy> theadmin, im not that good a this stuff just yet :P
[11:28] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: "libnacl-optimized" is not in the default repos for Precise, so it must come from that PPA. Assuming that, it should be normal for such an issue to arise.
[11:29] <theadmin> lundy: rm -r ~/.xfce4 # Run this from a terminal
[11:29] <lundy> rm: cannot remove `/home/lundy/.xfce': No such file or directory
[11:29] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: normal for it complain that it can't authenticate the pacakage?
[11:29] <thoughtfulgoblin> i'm assuming libnacl is for getfacl and setfacl
[11:29] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: It's from a third-party repo, and it seems you just don't have the key for that repo. So yeah, normal.
[11:29] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Nah, those come from the "acl" package.
[11:30] <lundy> theadmin, would this be it? /usr/share/xfce4/panel
[11:30] <thoughtfulgoblin> oh :/ why would i have this thing installed then
[11:30] <theadmin> lundy: No, ~/.xfce4 (~ is your home directory)
[11:30] <theadmin> lundy: Oh, my bad, it's ~/.config/xfce4
[11:30] <thoughtfulgoblin> worked out what it was from :)
[11:31] <theadmin> God those people love to move things around
[11:31] <thoughtfulgoblin> some tunneling app called quicktun :)
[11:31] <lundy> lundy@Laptop:~$ ls
[11:31] <lundy> Desktop    Downloads         Music     Public     Videos
[11:31] <lundy> Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates
[11:31] <lundy> L(
[11:31] <lundy> :) lol
[11:31] <FloodBot1> lundy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:31] <lundy> sorry
[11:31] <theadmin> lundy: It's a hidden folder, ls -a to see it
[11:32] <Industrial> Korny2, that link only shows openJDK aswell, and I cannot find anything but OpenJDK in apt-get. Please dont tell me all java applications look this bad in Ubuntu: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/87102b4307b07b4c3f5ff1ce13680784.png
[11:32] <lundy> brb
[11:32] <Korny2> Industrial,  you need to install the oracle java then switch using that
[11:33] <skock> hi
[11:33] <Industrial> Korny2, that has been my question all along
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: I don't see anything that looks bad there... Also, yay, an i3 user :P
[11:33] <Industrial> how do I install the oracle SDK
[11:33] <Industrial> theadmin, the fonts are all jagged
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: Oh, you may need the Microsoft fonts, dunno
[11:33] <skock> anyone have the isight.fw file for the macbook 4.1 model? I replaced my osx and I didn't save it :( please help me
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:34] <lundy> theadmin, thanks
[11:34] <lundy> thats worked a charm
[11:35] <Korny2> Industrial,  if you plan on being sucessful with linux in general you will need to look things up for yourself, a quick google search revealed multiple pages on how to install it http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jre-7-jdk.html?m=0
[11:36] <Industrial> Korny2, hah, I've been using linux since I was 12. I was asking about the availability of SUN JDK in apt-get because I could not find it
[11:36] <dr_willis> !java
[11:36] <thoughtfulgoblin> how do you block all outgoing connections from a server so that someone with root access still can not make an outgoing connection? put it on a private network and proxy it?
[11:37] <theadmin> Industrial: Well, the Oracle/Sun java are not in the Ubuntu repositories
[11:37] <theadmin> Industrial: So you have to get them from java.com and manually install. Quite a bother if you ask me :/
[11:37] <Industrial> yeah:\
[11:37] <dr_willis> theres unofficial ppa's and repos that have scripts to automate it..
[11:38] <dr_willis> nice of oracle to be so supportive of linux
[11:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, Sun had a partnership with Canonical which allowed them to provide Sun Java in the repos, but Oracle didn't prolong that.
[11:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Or something along those lines I'm no lawyer, dunno the details :P
[11:38] <skock> anyone could upload for me the AppleUSBVideoSupport file for ubuntu? my macbook is a 4.1 model
[11:39] <dr_willis> the whole idea of 'you must download this from us...... even tho we give it away freely' is just silly
[11:39] <Industrial> dr_willis, corporate interest is usually silly.
[11:39] <Industrial> 'because some guy in a suit said so' :)
[11:42] <dr_willis> dont get me ranting on the current annoyance i have with coportate anti-copying meaasures on such Highly Pirated DVDs as... lets see..  'The Complet Collection of Ma and Pa Kettle Movies' i got for $4 at walmart..... but cant play it in any of my dvd players....
[11:42] <dr_willis> We all know all the kids want that disk!
[11:43] <dr_willis> makes me wonder how much they would charge if they dident have to license the DECSS and lame Anti copy  crud. ;)
[11:43] <POVaddct> content mafia.
[11:44] <Tex_Nick> skock : is this related to iSight ?
[11:45] <dr_willis> Hmm. I see i got a kernel update today.. and its also installing kernel-headers to match the kernel.. Now Just yesterday someone was having issues with his system NOT installing the headers for new kernels.. breaking his video drivers...
[11:45] <dr_willis> was he confused about this? or was it somthing other then headers he needed?
[11:45] <theadmin> dr_willis: The whole kernel upgrade mechanism on Ubuntu is quite odd.
[11:46] <theadmin> dr_willis: It might have happened that he removed linux-headers-generic (which is possible and does NOT remove the actual headers, just stops them from upgrading), so...
[11:46] <dr_willis> yea. i recall him saying every time he got a new kernel.. his X  or wifi drivers would break.
[11:48] <phoenixsampras> hi hi
[11:48] <skock> yes Tex_Nick
[11:49] <Tex_Nick> skock : see if this helps ... http://turanct.wordpress.com/tag/appleusbvideosupport/
[11:50] <skock> yes Tex_Nick  the link doesnt work
[11:50] <skock> :(
[11:51] <lundy> oh this is going to take some getting used to coming from windows :/
[11:52] <Tex_Nick> skock : you mean ... http://turanct.wordpress.com/tag/appleusbvideosupport/ ... doesn't work ?
[11:52] <skock> no Tex_Nick  i meant or you can download it from "here". (unzip this first)
[11:54] <Tex_Nick> skock : hmmm ... funny it worked for me
[11:55] <anoNxeRo> histo, when i tried to "update-alternatives --config python" on lucid i get this error "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for python." can someone help?
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> hmmm.. any idea how one is supposed to install google-v8 in ubuntu?
[11:55] <anoNxeRo> i have python 2.6 and 2.7 installed
[11:55] <bekks> thoughtfulgoblin: Whats "google-v8"?
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> v8 javascript engine
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> http://code.google.com/p/v8/wiki/BuildingWithGYP
[11:55] <oddbehreif> Afternoon, people. I need some help getting past an error that's stopping me from installing Ubuntu, should I bother you with this or the guys over at the non-technical Ubuntu education channel?
[11:56] <thoughtfulgoblin> bekks: i can compile it, but then i'm not sure what i should be doing then
[11:56] <Tex_Nick> skock : if for some reason you can't get the file, guess i could DCC it to you
[11:57] <ankr> Sooo... I had mounted a remote folder using sshfs and then my laptop ran out of power.... This is what I saw when I turned it back on: https://gist.github.com/cf46aa4aabc704d823d9
[11:57] <ankr> Any help is appreciated!
[11:58] <POVaddct> ankr: your laptop was the server or the machine your were running sshfs on?
[11:59] <xkernel> "Software Update" application showing more things to be installed than apt-get update!!?? now I upgraded from the command line but still the GUI app show other updates
[11:59] <dannymichel> This has never happened to me before. I installed OS X, then installed Linux, did GPTSYNC so I could install WIndows on a partition, and the Windows FAT32 placeholder partition I created was not showing in the WIndows setup. It was just showing the OS X partition and the windows partition as one lump of unalocated space. This is what GPTSYNC shows http://pastie.org/6032991
[11:59] <ankr> POVaddct, on my laptop I have sshfs installed which I used to mount a folder from a remote server.
[11:59] <skock> sorry Tex_Nick  it would be great! could you upload it on mediafire? im on a webchat
[11:59] <ankr> output is from my laptop
[12:00] <POVaddct> ankr: so the sshfs mount still existed after a power cycle of the notebook?
[12:01] <ankr> POVaddct, dev/ is a folder that always exists, it's just the target folder when I mount.
[12:01] <ankr> It's where I mount onto
[12:01] <erupter> pkg-config question: can anybody think of a way to justify the fact that I'm not seeing all the available libraries from a remote shell, while in local I see them?
[12:01] <POVaddct> ankr: you are mounting sshfs over /dev? what's the purpose?
[12:01] <skock> ssa
[12:02] <dr_willis> sshfs over /dev? that wouldent seem possible.
[12:02] <POVaddct> dr_willis: i thought so
[12:02] <dr_willis> I make a /home/username/SSHfs  for all mine to go into. ;)
[12:02] <dr_willis> and a script to remount them all when i login
[12:02] <llutz> dr_willis: POVaddct i guess he uses $HOME/dev   not /dev
[12:03] <ankr> POVaddct, ~/code/dev
[12:03] <POVaddct> ankr: ah okay
[12:03] <llutz> ankr: sudo fusermount -u ~/code/dev
[12:03] <dr_willis> here we are in a day and age when we can have 100000+ character filenames.. and people still use  shortcuts. ;)
[12:03] <POVaddct> llutz: i was just about to suggest that :)
[12:03] <oddbehreif> Does Ubuntu support installation on NTFS at all? I googled this but got a lot of mixed results to the point that it got outright confusing
[12:04] <POVaddct> llutz: but i still wonder why that mount still exists after the notebook was turned off
[12:04] <ankr> POVaddct, llutz that worked perfectly - thanks alot for your help :)
[12:04] <llutz> dr_willis: who wants to remember /path/thisisanonspeakingdirectorynamewithoutspacesjustbecauseicanuselongnames ?
[12:04] <llutz> POVaddct: the mountpoint always exist
[12:04] <POVaddct> llutz: but not the mount itself
[12:05] <llutz> POVaddct: ~/code/dev  is the mountpoint, not the content
[12:05] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, what's the best way to get up-to-date AMD graphics drivers without sacrificing apt-based updating?
[12:06] <Dark_Apostrophe> (Also, are the open source drivers or the proprietary ones better for video playback?)
[12:06] <POVaddct> llutz: i know that. but fusermount -u implies that a *mount* still exists
[12:06] <lolmaus> I've got an Ubuntu 12.04 Server headless box. After a hard-reboot, it displays a GRUB menu and won't boot until i attach a display and a keyboard and ask him to. How do i make him boot automatically even after a hard-reboot?
[12:07] <bel3atar> Dark_Apostrophe: proprietary are much better for anything and everything
[12:07] <dr_willis> or its clearing out some old stale settings/pid files for the fuser stuff...
[12:07] <Dark_Apostrophe> Figured as much - but more of a pain as far as updates go?
[12:07] <llutz> dr_willis: correct
[12:07] <bel3atar> lolmaus: you can configure grub from /boot
[12:07] <POVaddct> llutz: ah okay
[12:08] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  just stick to the ones in the repos.. they should be the most useable and least prone to breaking.
[12:08] <llutz> !uefi
[12:08] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: Yeah, but they're choppy with HD video
[12:08] <l057c0d3r_> u want a pain during updage.. install gentoo :-p
[12:08] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:   theres no guarentee the newer will be any better.
[12:09] <dr_willis> or it may be choppy and not due to the ati drivers.. but compiz issues
[12:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: No, but with very new hardware, there's a good chance they may be
[12:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hmm... that's a good point.
[12:09] <dr_willis> with very new hardware.. you are going tobe prone to more breakage problems
[12:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> Is there a way for VLC to auto-disable compiz when it starts?
[12:10] <dr_willis> ati is not very good at supporting the latest hardware with their linux drivers.... or their old hardware....
[12:10] <dr_willis> ok.. lets just say it.. we are lucky any of their drivers work... ;P
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> With the recent Steam announcement, one would think AMD would be throwing more weight behind Linux driver development
[12:11] <dr_willis> I think AMD may be in for a very rough road ahead
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> They've been on a rough road for years
[12:12] <Dark_Apostrophe> Been declining since the Athlon XP era - with a brief glimmer of hope around the introduction of AMD64.
[12:13] <ioria> zykotick: i solved the issue with emacs in text mode: just 'emacs -nw filename' , no need to install emcacs-nox
[12:13] <l057c0d3r_> i've had good luck with my amd video card..  using the updated drivers
[12:13] <dr_willis> as for better video playback.. compiz has a vsync option ive used in the past to reduce tearing.. and vlc has some fliter options that i have also played with.
[12:13] <ioria> zykotick9: i solved the issue with emacs in text mode: just 'emacs -nw filename' , no need to install emacs-nox
[12:13] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, i'm not sure of other ways of doing it.. but on my setup of gnome / cairo-dock i have a composit button on my system tray that i can click to turn compiz on and off...
[12:13] <dr_willis> I tend to not play many HD videos however.. and most of what i watch is anime.. :) so your settings may differ
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: How do you update them?
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: I'm running Kubuntu, though. Not sure if there's a KDE equivalent - but maybe the System Settings options would be adequate.
[12:14] <l057c0d3r_> instead if installing fglrx i installed fglrx-update
[12:14] <dr_willis> ive seen KDE widigits to turn on/off composit
[12:14] <l057c0d3r_> the compiz on off thing is a part of cairo-dock on my install
[12:15] <ioria> dr_willis: naruto ? :-)
[12:15] <dr_willis> ioria:  allready seen all those. :) watching Rock Lees adventurs now.. ;P
[12:15] <l057c0d3r_> honestly.. i leave my compiz on unless im playing a game..  doesnt seem to affect video
[12:15] <ioria> dr_willis: yappiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:16] <l057c0d3r_> and in the amd control center i leave antialis off.
[12:16] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: What kind of card do you have?
[12:16] <SkySurfer> hehe
[12:16] <phoenixsampras> how to fix errors in a xfat partition?
[12:17] <l057c0d3r_> AMD RADEON HD 7660g
[12:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> Mine is 7660D
[12:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> Guessing they're almost identical
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, you have a desktop or laptop
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Desktop
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> thats the difference'
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> i have the laptop version of that card
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, it's a trinity APU - could work in a heavy-duty laptop too, I guess
[12:18] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  out of curiosity ... what amd/ati card or apu are you running ... i ask because i build some amd/apu pc's am interested in related problems
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, http://uppix.net/3/3/9/c5a976c8602d919bc628612eed78f.png :-) my setup running netflix
[12:19] <Dark_Apostrophe> Tex_Nick: A10-5800K
[12:20] <Dark_Apostrophe> I built a completely soundless system, no moving drives or fans; passive cooling. The only issue I've had so far is that the 150W PSU is probably insufficient, resulting in system crashes. Going to replace it once the manufacturer finishes their long-promised 250W model.
[12:21] <dr_willis> hmm.. Ok.. amazon is getting on my nerves.. trying to watch prime videos - they say 'dont use chrome' use ff.. well i was using ff.. now trying google-chrome and i get this...
[12:21] <dr_willis> If you're using the Chrome browser with Linux, you must disable PPAPI to continue using Amazon Instant Video. You can also use a different Web
[12:21] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  ahhh ok thanks for the feedback ... FYI i,ve done a couple of cheap builds with that APU using a relatively cheap MoBo (ECS) they run 1080p videos without issues, while multitasking
[12:21] <dr_willis> What is PPAPI?
[12:21] <mehdi_> hey fellas installed my Nvidia graphic but when i goto dash menu its gets slow wat should i do?
[12:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Tex_Nick: I've got a forum post and pictures of my setup, if you're interested
[12:22] <veldmuijzfromubu> drmagoo?
[12:22] <Visitor___> I at least partially figures out the problem. MBR partition tables want 4 partitions, but i have like 6. when i run gptsync, it finds my 3 linux partitions and the mac efi partition on top. is there a way to dictate to gptsync which partitions i want it to see for the mbr partition table?
[12:23] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  hey would really like to have a look at that :-)
[12:23] <lundy> so in xchat is there a way to setup Auto auth to NIckServ?
[12:23] <dr_willis> lundy:   Yes.  its in the server se4ttings i recall. or you can do an on connect command
[12:23] <Visitor___> Please?
[12:24] <l057c0d3r_> lundy yes
[12:24] <lundy> cant seem to find it
[12:24] <lundy> oh wait
[12:24] <lundy> got it
[12:24] <Ben64> lundy: its where it says "nickserv password"
[12:25] <lundy> take it Connect Command is for auto join channels?
[12:25] <lundy> no wait fav channels is
[12:25] <Ben64> connect command is just that, runs whatever on connect
[12:26] <Qasaur> So I have the worst problem
[12:26] <Ben64> Qasaur: get a new computer
[12:26] <lundy> getting there :P thanks guys your very helpful :D
[12:26] <l057c0d3r_> Ben64, is there a way to make it wait a min before casting that command..  or making it do a command on channel connect instead :-p
[12:26] <l057c0d3r_> like a sleep() feature
[12:26] <bekks> Qasaur: What is "the worst problem"?
[12:26] <Visitor___> MBR partition tables want 4 partitions, but i have like 6. when i run gptsync, it finds my 3 linux partitions and the mac efi partition on top. is there a way to dictate to gptsync which partitions i want it to see for the mbr partition table?
[12:26] <Qasaur> Ben64,
[12:26] <Qasaur> well
[12:26] <Qasaur> Okay
[12:26] <Qasaur> this problem right
[12:26] <FloodBot1> Qasaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <l057c0d3r_> because that has always been my issue with connection commands..  i guess i'm going to have to write a script for what i want to do :-p
[12:27] <bekks> !enter | Qasaur
[12:27] <Ben64> Visitor___: you might want to explain what that means
[12:27] <Qasaur> My built in soundcard won't work, I have to use my USB headsets because I  can't plugin my normal headphones into the headphone jack
[12:27] <Ben64> l057c0d3r_: possibly
[12:27] <Qasaur> This is a laptop by the way. Another problem is that the CD drive won't work
[12:27] <Ben64> Qasaur: thats not the worst
[12:27] <Qasaur> Ben64, well it worked on Windows but stops working on Linux no matter what distro I use
[12:28] <bekks> Qasaur: Which is neither vital, elementary nor "worse" :)
[12:28] <l057c0d3r> qasaur what flavor of linux are you using right now
[12:28] <Qasaur> Fine, :P
[12:28] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, Ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <l057c0d3r> hmm..
[12:29] <Ben64> i was imagining your computer got hit by some sort of nuclear device and had become sentient
[12:29] <l057c0d3r> i had sound issues with lubuntu..  but never on ubuntu.. have you checked alsamixer to make sure everything is unmuted
[12:29] <l057c0d3r> not sure if that is relevent on ubuntu though
[12:29] <phoenixsampras> how to fix errors in a xfat partition?
[12:29] <lundy> so thats OS installed and updated hmmm now wot apps can I install
[12:29] <bekks> Qasaur: Does it stop working or did it never work on Ubuntu?
[12:29] <Korny2> I know in older versions of alsa you had to configure it for a laptop type or it would play through both the speakers and headphones jacks hehe
[12:30] <Qasaur> bekks, never worked on Ubuntu
[12:30] <bekks> phoenixsampras: By starting windows and repair it from there.
[12:30] <l057c0d3r> and if you have an hdmi output on your computer.. make sure in the sound settings you have the hdmi output off.... and built in card enabled
[12:30] <lundy> Anti-Virus recommended for Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <Ben64> !virus | lundy
[12:30] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, the built in speakers work
[12:30] <l057c0d3r> lundy clamav
[12:30] <lundy> <3 thanks Ben64
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> but it is really not needed
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> Qasaur, k..  so refresh my memory..  what is the sound not working on
[12:31] <lundy> kk ill leave it for now, anything I really should install ?
[12:31] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, the headphone jack
[12:32] <yourimym1> help needed
[12:33] <_helios_> !ask | yourimym1
[12:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Sending emergency kitten and chocolate to yourimym1
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  odd.. when i plug headphones in it autoswitches to them.   always has..
[12:33] <yourimym1> :)
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> only time i have had issues is when pluging in my turtle-beach headset..
[12:33] <bonhoeffer> what should i format a drive to be accessible to mac and ubuntu (guid partition table)
[12:33] <bonhoeffer> ?
[12:33] <yourimym1> while opening my software center some of lables gets fuzzy
[12:35] <dr_willis> !manual | lundy
[12:35] <dr_willis> a copy of that ubuntu manual should be on every default desktop ;)
[12:36] <yourimym1> ??
[12:37] <ioria> yourimym1: can you be more specific, please ?
[12:37] <yourimym1> while opening my software center some of lables gets fuzzy  even texts while i browse anything , words gets pixelate until , ihover mouse over it , sry 4 bad english
[12:38] <ioria> yourimym1: did you restarted ?
[12:38] <yourimym1> alot :D
[12:39] <pengshao> ddd
[12:40] <Catbuntu> hi
[12:40] <yourimym1> hi
[12:40] <pengshao> hi
[12:40] <Catbuntu> I created a GPG key on another partition, can I "import" it to my other Linux partition?
[12:40] <Catbuntu> I mean, I have a Linux Mint and an Ubuntu partition.
[12:40] <bekks> Just copy it.
[12:41] <Catbuntu> Copy what?
[12:41] <Catbuntu> Is there some .gpg folder or something?
[12:41] <yourimym1> should i type my problem again , how things works here ?
[12:41] <ioria> yourimym1: launch the program from the terminal and it will display the issues
[12:42] <yourimym1> i mean the problem while i use it
[12:42] <xkernel> "Software Update" application showing more things to be installed than apt-get update!!?? now I upgraded from the command line but still the GUI app show other updates, why is that??
[12:43] <Noctifer> is it perhaps possible to get this annoying 12.10 to  disable bluetooth at startup? Is it *that* hard to put this option into the bluetooth settings??
[12:43] <Noctifer> but nice that there is a *shopping lense* now - things that are actually useless
[12:43] <yourimym1> anyone familiar with graphics issues here !?
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> yourimym1, depends.. what issue are you having
[12:44] <bekks> !anyone | yourimym1
[12:45] <lundy> :D loving this already ...
[12:46] <l057c0d3r> lundy :-)  yep me too..  especially after customizing it completely :-p
[12:46] <yourimym1> does anyone know , why some texts that appears in window label , or names of icon , or labels in software center , gets  pixelate, or fuzzy ? and it happen also in url bar while browsing , , ps; when i hover mouse over it turns okay
[12:47] <l057c0d3r> yourimym1, have you installed binary video drivers?
[12:47] <lundy> l057c0d3r, im still getting used to it but downloaded something where it puts menu bar at bottom and gives me a slight start menu like windows ... which is coming in very handy !!
[12:48] <l057c0d3r> lundy what flavor were you using again?
[12:48] <lundy> sorry im new tot his "flavour"
[12:48] <we6jbo> dosen't that have to do with something called anti aliasing or something I've seen in video games where the text isn't smooth
[12:48] <yourimym1> no x.org.x
[12:48] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu / lubuntu/ kubunut....
[12:48] <lundy> ubuntu
[12:49] <lundy> oh i think my battery in my laptop is dying
[12:49] <lundy> just pulled it off charge there and it shot to 39%
[12:49] <l057c0d3r> i see...  myself i installed lubuntu as a base..  removed lxde / openbox and lightdm ext ext. taking me back down to the kernel only...
[12:49] <lundy> within seconds it went to 38 and now is at 37%
[12:50] <nearst> aw. compiling source to package is not fun
[12:50] <l057c0d3r> maybe it didn't have a full charege to start ?
[12:50] <lundy> l057c0d3r, been on charge all last night
[12:50] <l057c0d3r> lundy after cleared it all off. installed gnome and cairo-dock.  use the cairo-dock(gnome) session.. and could not be happier
[12:51] <l057c0d3r> hmm that sucks.. sounds like battery is going bad
[12:51] <flintser> lundy: my old acer laptop said that its battery is damaged and only 27% of the full charge is left
[12:51] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, for those following the discussion about compositing some 10-15min ago, one can toggle it In KDE with alt-shift-F12
[12:51] <angs> I installed openssl by apt-get install. where does it keep the source files?
[12:51] <flintser> lundy: maybe your battery / mb doesnt support that feature
[12:52] <ioria> angs: etc i think
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: still in the repos
[12:52] <lundy> probally damaged its a old laptop
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: the source files are not part of a binary package, they are still in the source packages
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: apt-get source packagename to get the source-code
[12:52] <ioria> angs: sorry, the configuration files are in etc
[12:52] <bonhoeffer> is there a command like ls, but shows all the sizes of the directories
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> as in the size of the contents of the directories
[12:53] <flintser> bonhoeffer: ls -l
[12:53] <lundy> l057c0d3r, im not a fan of Docks ...
[12:53] <iceroot> bonhoeffer: du
[12:53] <angs> thank you iceroot and ioria
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> flintser, no, it shows all directory sizes as 4096
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> iceroot, thanks
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> iceroot, so the trick is to do du with one level probably
[12:54] <Ben64> du -h --max-depth 1
[12:54] <l057c0d3r> lundy, have you seen the screenshot of my box running netflix...  the docks are not quite what you may think with cairo-dock
[12:54] <bonhoeffer> Ben64, perfect
[12:54] <lundy> no i havnt seen it
[12:54] <Ben64> bonhoeffer: also ... "man du"
[12:54] <bonhoeffer> sure
[12:55] <flintser> this just camt to my mind, but is there a way to netflix without wine
[12:55] <flintser> came*
[12:55] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia yourimym1
[12:55] <yourimym1> does anyone know , why some texts that appears in window label , or names of icon , or labels in software center , gets  pixelate, or fuzzy ? and it happen also in url bar while browsing , , ps; when i hover mouse over it turns okay , using using x.org,xserver - nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video (open source)  , nvidia geforce gt N620 core edition
[12:55] <yourimym1> nvidia yes
[12:56] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | yourimym1
[12:56] <l057c0d3r> lundy....  http://uppix.net/3/3/9/c5a976c8602d919bc628612eed78f.png
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> here is a tough one, any way to copy all image files (and their directory structure) to a new directory?
[12:58] <l057c0d3r> i have to admit..   i still like gnome after all these years..  however i hope they never get rid of there gnome(classic)  because i am deffinently not a fan of this metro style stuff
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> find . -iname "*.jpg" --exec mv {} /my/dir/ \; but that will only copy the files
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> move the files . . .
[12:59] <bonhoeffer> i'm pretty sure i need to write a script
[12:59] <Ben64> you might want #bash
[12:59] <lundy> l057c0d3r, thats cool
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> only reason i use ubuntu is for the kernel / apt
[13:00] <bonhoeffer> Ben64, agreed, but i might do it in ruby since i know that pretty well
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> and because of wubi
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> and apt is the big winner there....
[13:00] <Ben64> bonhoeffer: i meant the irc channel
[13:01] <l057c0d3r> i remove everything else that comes with it..  do what i want with the system....   but ubuntu..  is by far my fav system....   gentoo a close second... although a lot harder to work with...
[13:02] <yourimym1> #bash
[13:03] <lundy> http://postimage.org/image/89z48vxsp/ my setup
[13:03] <l057c0d3r> and thanks to ppa's  ubuntu gets another plus :-) the gnome3-team ppa makes gnome work better in my opinion
[13:04] <lundy> l057c0d3r, http://postimage.org/image/89z48vxsp/
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> lundy, nice nice.. what were you running again?
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> might replace my application menu with that one :-p
[13:06] <lundy> 2secs
[13:06] <jpds> !it
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> then this system will be amazing :-p
[13:06] <jpds> !ot | actually
[13:07] <Catbuntu> In which repositories is the "nitro" package?
[13:07] <Catbuntu> It doesn't appear at packages.ubuntu.com but it's at the software center...
[13:08] <Rabblerouser> So this is what my screenshots are looking like now http://i.imgur.com/cG7t5n3.png
[13:08] <lundy> l057c0d3r, cinnamon 2d
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm....
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> might just have to replace my gnome with cinnamon for the application menu..
[13:09] <lundy> LOL Rabblerouser
[13:09] <Rabblerouser> :( is not funny. is bad.
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> would fit in better with the cairo-dock panels menu's that open
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <Rabblerouser> How would I get around fixing it?
[13:10] <lundy> l057c0d3r, gl
[13:10] <lundy> Rabblerouser, wots the problem with it
[13:10] <lundy> drivers?
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> I don't think my drivers are at fault.
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> I really don't know the issue
[13:11] <lundy> screen resolution?
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> 1366 x 768
[13:11] <vimerrrrrrr> anyone help me with the boot without full network configuration prob? any suggestions how to deal with that?thanks
[13:11] <bekks> Rabblerouser: Which graphics driver do you use, and how did you install it?
[13:13] <pje335_NL> hello all i got a question:
[13:13] <pje335_NL> wil Libreoffice be autoupdated to 4.0 wen it will be releast?
[13:13] <Catbuntu> One question.
[13:14] <Catbuntu> In which repo is this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/nitro/
[13:14] <Catbuntu> (deb line)
[13:14] <Rabblerouser> http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ I used Tomasz's trick, outlined at the bottom there to install it
[13:14] <flintser> Catbuntu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cooperjona/nitrotasks
[13:15] <xkernel> why software update in the GUI app shows more updates that are not shown by apt-ge upgrade?
[13:15] <flintser> flintser: sudo apt-get update
[13:15] <Rabblerouser> Sorry about the wait. I posted it in another IRC by accident.
[13:15] <Catbuntu> flintser, by default it's using the PPA?
[13:15] <Catbuntu> (I already know about the PPA, I mean if it's on some Ubuntu repository)
[13:16] <dr_willis> !info nitro
[13:16] <mpmc> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Thinkpad E525 (APU processor) all I'm getting is a scrambled screen, anyone have any ideas?
[13:16] <dr_willis> !find nitro
[13:16] <pje335_NL>  wil Libreoffice be autoupdated to 4.0 wen it will be releasd?
[13:17] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  we really dont have inside info ;)
[13:17] <flintser> Catbuntu: if it is in software manager and you can install it it is somewhere in the default repos i think
[13:17] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  you may want to check/post the question at askubuntu.com
[13:17] <Catbuntu> Yes, but the odd thing is that it doesn't appear on packages.ubuntu.com
[13:17] <Catbuntu> And the bot can't find it, too.
[13:17] <pje335_NL> ow oke i wil do that:)
[13:17] <pje335_NL> thank you for helping me out:)
[13:18] <flintser> Catbuntu: i dont know much about these things but maybe because it is proprietary?
[13:18] <dr_willis> mpmc:  tryed the nomodeset option yet? weird that an thinkpad would bneed it...
[13:18] <k1l> pje335_NL: new software versions come with new ubuntu releases. so there might be no update after that
[13:18] <Catbuntu> Yep.
[13:18] <Catbuntu> But where are the propietary packages?
[13:19] <dr_willis> where? if you add their repository. they show up in the package manager tools listings
[13:19] <mpmc> dr_willis: I have selected it in the other options at the install screen, but it doesn't have any effect.
[13:19] <pje335_NL> the propietary packages?
[13:19] <pje335_NL> k1l: so in 13.04?
[13:19] <dr_willis> mpmc:  there used to be a fairly active thinkpad forum on the ubuntu forums..
[13:19] <markveidemanis> Join #mtmt please
[13:19] <dr_willis> !backports | pje335_NL
[13:20] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  or you could look for a PPA for it - if you need it badly enough
[13:21] <k1l> pje335_NL: if its released before the freeze for raring. yes
[13:21] <pje335_NL> next week i think :)
[13:21] <Rabblerouser> lundy, still there?
[13:21] <k1l> pje335_NL: best thing is to ask the maintainer
[13:22] <pje335_NL> i will update it mealnualy but i was just wondering
[13:22] <flintser> Catbuntu: dunno, tried searching my /etc/apt/sources.list but didnt find nitro in there
[13:22] <pje335_NL> manually*
[13:22] <Catbuntu> neither me
[13:24] <flintser> Catbuntu: i cnt install it from apt, but software manager sees it, so maybe it just adds the repo and installs it from there
[13:25] <xiaolindraconis> seednode:
[13:26] <flintser> Catbuntu: i'd just add the coopernoda/nitrotasks repo and install it from apt that way
[13:26] <Catbuntu> Yep, that's what I did.
[13:29] <Rabblerouser> Find it funny how I'm getting better support in a game's channel >.>
[13:31] <Ronalds_M> Hello, I have this amazing app called gbrainy, my native language isn't native in this app on 12.04, can I change it, somehow?
[13:38] <mike160> can anyone help me out am trying to install this program in ubuntu and i keep geting chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/thumbnailme': No such file or directory when i do sudo dpkg -i Thumbnailme_2.1_i386.deb
[13:39] <bekks> mike160: Then it was not installed to /usr/bin/thumbnailme
[13:39] <Rip003> hey guys, I got my wireless working! :D
[13:39] <wsky> good for you
[13:40] <Qasaur> Rip003, awesome!
[13:40] <lundy> :) go u
[13:40] <mike160> bekks so what do i need to do to get this program install
[13:40] <Rip003> only thing not plying now is my magic trackpad :/
[13:40] <bekks> mike160: You just have to find out where it was installed to: dpkg -L Thumbnailme
[13:41] <Qasaur> Should I use XFCE4 or GNOME3
[13:41] <Qasaur> I'm on Unity at the moment and I want to change
[13:41] <Qasaur> but I can't decide between those two
[13:41] <auronandace> Qasaur: try both and see what you like
[13:41] <mike160> bekks when i do L Thumbnailme
[13:41] <mike160> i get
[13:42] <bekks> mike160: Use a pastebin please :)
[13:42] <Rip003> So how do I get this trckpad to work? Last thing I need before I use Ubuntu entirely.
[13:42] <mike160> whats a pastbin
[13:42] <dr_willis> !pastebin | mike160
[13:42] <mike160> ok
[13:43] <dr_willis> mike160:  where did this package come from?
[13:43] <mike160> !pastebin
[13:43] <dr_willis> mike160:  install the pastebinit command. it helps out a lot :)
[13:43] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:43] <mike160> i download it
[13:44] <dr_willis> mike160:  you downloaded it.. well.. yes...     and WHERE did it come from?
[13:45] <Qasaur> also
[13:45] <Qasaur> difference between Xubuntu and just installing XFCE?
[13:45] <auronandace> Qasaur: the default apps
[13:45] <dr_willis> xubuntu-desktop is the full xubuntu package.. with extras,,
[13:45] <dr_willis> things xfce may not include
[13:45] <Qasaur> well if I want to use XFCE
[13:45] <Qasaur> what should I download?
[13:46] <mike160> dr_willis from http://www.thumbnailme.com/
[13:46] <auronandace> Qasaur: xfce4
[13:46] <dr_willis> i would just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[13:46] <Qasaur> I want to completely replace Unity
[13:47] <ioria> Qasaur: there is also KDE out there
[13:47] <auronandace> Qasaur: don't bother removing unity, it will cause you headaches
[13:47] <dr_willis> mike160:  the current windows version of thumbnailme seems to be 3.0 while that linux deb is version 2.1  looks like it  dosent get much linux support...
[13:47] <Qasaur> auronandace, what do you mean?
[13:47] <Qasaur> ioria, KDE is a little too bloated for me
[13:47] <Qasaur> I prefer GTK antway
[13:47] <Qasaur> anyway*
[13:48] <dr_willis> Qasaur:  install the other desktops.. and try them... dont bother removeing them unless you get tight on hd space.
[13:48] <ioria> Qasaur: lxde maybe
[13:48] <Authoritaaa> where are my lulz im here
[13:48] <auronandace> Qasaur: just install xfce and use it, no need to remove unity (which will drag a ton of dependencies with it)
[13:48] <Qasaur> auronandace, I see,
[13:49] <mike160> yeah i know
[13:49] <dr_willis> mike160:  from the errors the software center just gave.. it seems the guy dosent know much about packageing things for linux..  if you need that app badly.. you could try the windows binary in wine.
[13:49] <mike160> but i had it install befor it just cant get it to work now
[13:50] <hillary> This is what i get when i start eclipse in ubuntu 12.04 "An error has occurred. See the log file
[13:50] <hillary> /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359899298456.log."
[13:50] <hillary> Where could be the mess?
[13:50] <mike160> i tryed the windows one with wine wont run
[13:51] <auronandace> hillary: read the log file
[13:51] <dr_willis> mike160:  well im not even going to try to install it here to test it... sorry
[13:51] <mike160> np
[13:51] <hillary> auronandace, I seem not to be understanding pleas
[13:51] <xkernel> why software update in the GUI app shows more updates that are not shown by apt-ge upgrade?
[13:52] <auronandace> hillary: you've just posted exactly where the log file is
[13:52] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | xkernel
[13:53] <xkernel> auronandace, I didn't do dist-upgrade
[13:53] <xkernel> ubottu, !upgrade
[13:53] <auronandace> xkernel: i know, thats why i pointed it out
[13:54] <auronandace> xkernel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does more than sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:54] <Authoritaaa> sudo died a fatal death
[13:54] <xkernel> auronandace, and the GUI software update app executes dist-upgrade instead ?
[13:54] <hillary> auronandace, I have located what do i do with it?
[13:54] <auronandace> xkernel: i'd assume so yes, because that deals with dependencies
[13:55] <auronandace> hillary: its a log file, you read it
[13:55] <xkernel> auronandace, thanks. why the un-supported updates are by default checked in the software sources?
[13:56] <Li2ne> bonjours, j'ai un soucie pour lequel j'ai du mal a trouvé une solution en ligne
[13:56] <zykotick9> !fr | Li2ne
[13:56] <Authoritaaa> ove la foof
[13:57] <Li2ne> sorry
[13:57] <Authoritaaa> ove la foof
[13:57] <auronandace> xkernel: not sure sorry
[13:57] <Li2ne> I've a issus witout easy solution in online forums
[13:58] <teknokadim> hi people. i want to freeze system drive(sda3) and save all changes on sda4 (mounted on /overlay) so i think user overlyfs and use this command ( mount -t overlayfs overlayfs / -o lowerdir=/,upperdir=/overlay) is it false or have a bug. idont see /overly files in / and when i create file/folder it save on sda3 not sda4. can you how a idea?
[13:58] <Li2ne> I've reinstall my system with 'encrypte home' checked.
[13:58] <Li2ne> but /home was already encrypted
[13:59] <Li2ne> so now i cannot access my /home/login
[13:59] <Li2ne> i gess it's encrypted two time with two differents password
[14:00] <hillary> auronandace, Content of the log file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1604516/
[14:03] <auronandace> try sudo apt-get install libswt-gtk-3-java
[14:03] <mike160> dr_willis do you know of any other program like thumbnailme that works well in ubuntu
[14:03] <auronandace> hillary: try sudo apt-get install libswt-gtk-3-java
[14:11] <linxeh> mike160: imagemagick probably
[14:11] <y2j> hi im trying to install the epson lq-300 esc/p2 any idea?
[14:11] <mike160> linxeh ok thanks
[14:12] <harkirat_> anybody on ubuntu 12.10
[14:12] <harkirat_> ??
[14:12] <linxeh> mike160: convert command will delegate to ffmpeg to extract frames from the video and output in the format you specify
[14:12] <ThinkT510> harkirat_: many are
[14:12] <harkirat_> i want the original sources.list
[14:12] <harkirat_> indian user
[14:13] <lundy> i am harkirat_
[14:13] <Guest11063> hi
[14:13] <Li2ne> i've found ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:13] <harkirat_> can u please mail me that at sahib5243@gmail.com
[14:13] <Guest11063> wazzup
[14:13] <mike160> linxeh ok thanks again
[14:13] <Guest11063> gee
[14:13] <tdrusk> Hey guys. I am having some trouble with the netflix-desktop package. The playback is very slow and choppy. I am on a fresh install of Ubuntu. This is my lspci -v(http://pastebin.com/EfUkmCpw) and my dmidecode(http://pastebin.com/82iq9xLg). I feel like there is probably a bottleneck somewhere. Any tips?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> harkirat_: probably would have been safer to suggest a pastebin rather than post your email
[14:14] <harkirat_> pastebin?
[14:14] <eegore> anyword on whenthey are going to bring out the note II with Ubuntu preloaded?
[14:14] <Guest11063> madderchood
[14:14] <harkirat_> ThinkT510: kindly send me that some how?
[14:14] <y2j> how do i install the latest amd catalyst driver for workstation card?
[14:15] <y2j> using ubuntu
[14:15] <lundy> harkirat_, http://pastie.org/6033389
[14:16] <auronandace> harkirat_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1604574/
[14:16] <harkirat_> lundy: thanks :)
[14:16] <harkirat_> auronandace: thanks to u too :D
[14:17] <tokastas> ls
[14:17] <tokastas> exit
[14:18] <lundy> lol?
[14:29] <bonhoeffer> what would be the best way to image a usb drive into another (dd?)
[14:30] <bonhoeffer> i _think_ i backed up all the files from the usb drive, but i would like to image it as a backup just in case
[14:30] <BluesKaj> bonhoeffer, afaik dd should do it
[14:31] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[14:32] <JonEdney> Hey everyone.  I have /home and / on seperate partitions.  If I put the 12.10 CD back in to re-install, and select reformat for / but not /home, would that reinstall 12.10, but leave my homedir alone?
[14:32] <iceroot> JonEdney: yes
[14:32] <JonEdney> iceroot, Thank you.  I assumed, but wanted to confirm before I did the needful.
[14:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> bonhoeffer: If you want a more automated system, Clonezilla is also good. But probably overkill in most situations.
[14:32] <iceroot> JonEdney: on the partion-layout manager just say to use the old /home as the new /home without reformating
[14:32] <bonhoeffer> Dark_Apostrophe, thanks
[14:33] <Araneidae> Hi.  I'm trying to follow instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for AMD graphics (Xubuntu 12.10) and there's no option for "fglrx-experimental-X"
 yes. but you must partitioning manuel not auto
[14:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Clonezilla Live is great for full-disk and partition backups. Used it to migrate a production Windows server from a dying disk to a new one (though it wouldn't work with RAID, apparently).
[14:33] <Araneidae> Are the instructions out of date, or am I doing something wrong?
[14:37] <shaokc> hello everyone
[14:37] <singharkirat> shaokc: hello
[14:38] <flcl> wazzzzup
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> is there a way to turn the fan speed up inside a lappy??
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> my lappy idles at around 39 to 50c
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> but when im watching netflix on it..  or playing a game..  it jumps to 70 to 80c
[14:40] <flcl> awwwww so cute
[14:41] <l057c0d3r> even with a fan under it
[14:41] <l057c0d3r> and i'm a little worried about it.. because the temp gauge redlines almost
[14:43] <Araneidae> Since when did Ubuntu start pretending it's Apple??  Whatever happened to progress reports and visible logs, when installing software, FFS?
[14:45] <solidoodlesuppor> Good morning Penguin people!
[14:45] <lightfritz> mornin
[14:45] <Cottus> is there a way to extract a single file from a tar archive?
[14:46] <flcl> ohayo! ^_^
[14:47] <flcl> total commander can do that, i think )
[14:47] <jrib> Cottus: tar xf archive.tar.gz file     I believe
[14:48] <zykotick9> Cottus: this page explains file/directory extracting from tar http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/
[14:48] <Cottus> jrib: indeed
[14:48] <Cottus> thnx
[14:53] <Noaland>  done a recent apt upgrade, X won't start now : failed to initialize relative axis on my microsoft keyboard.
[14:53] <cgat> oi alquem ai pode me ajudar aconfigurar o ubuntu
[14:56] <solancer> hey guys quick question
[14:56] <compdoc> is there a package for linux OSes that allows specific services to run at boot, and prevent non-authorized services from running?
[14:57] <bekks> compdoc: Basically: no.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> solancer: i'm not sure your question is that quick...
[14:58] <solancer> I have 2 monitors connected to my ubuntu machine. How can I share a libre office document on both the monitors( left half on 1 monitor and right half on the other)
[14:59] <solancer> ThinkT510, I'm a sloppy typer
[15:01] <flcl> hey Justin )
[15:03] <fisix> juego ubuntu juego...
[15:03] <fisix> UBUNTU
[15:03] <fisix> ./ubuntu
[15:03] <fisix> ls
[15:03] <DJones> fisix: Wrong terminal
[15:03] <fisix> quit
[15:04] <fisix> exit
[15:04] <ThinkT510> fisix: /quit
[15:04] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[15:05] <escott_> solancer, LO has a side by side viewing mode and then you could just stretch the single window across the two screens
[15:07] <basso> how can i make my system use more ram?
[15:07] <basso> i have soo much ram now
[15:07] <bekks> It will use the RAM it wants/needs to use automagically.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> basso: it will be used when it is needed
[15:08] <escott_> basso, there are some kernel tunables related to how long things get cached, but usually you just install the ram into the computer and turn it on
[15:08] <y2j> need to intall catalyst driver ubutu
[15:08] <y2j> ubuntu?
[15:08] <basso> i have disabled swap, installed preload, mounted /tmp in ram
[15:10] <xkernel> how to import ssh key in seahorse?
[15:10] <nemo> So. Rhythmbox is refusing to rip. says I need to install something
[15:11] <nemo> so I click install, and nothing more happens. just repeats same message
[15:11] <wjtaylor_> I had a raid failure event. How do I diagnose the drive?
[15:11] <nemo> on a hunch, I fired up synaptic and installed the python ogg encoding package.  but that didn't seem to help, even after a restart
[15:11] <nemo> not finding too much in googling either.  any tips?
[15:11] <escott_> wjtaylor, smartctl in smartmon-tools
[15:12] <lundy> anyone know how I can fix this
[15:12] <lundy> updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'
[15:13] <escott_> lundy, you need to run updatedb as root
[15:13] <lundy> :P wait sudo updatedb
[15:13] <lundy> :/ my bdad
[15:13] <lundy> not used to this yet
[15:13] <escott_> lundy, i think its configured differently on fedora, but ubuntu/debian wants you to be root
[15:16] <nemo> Hrm. lemme shorten that onto one line given how noisy this channel usually is :)
[15:17] <nemo> What do I need to install to allow Rhythmbox to extract CDs?  Banshee has no trouble so I know I have vorbis encoding already.
[15:17] <nemo> hm. maybe Rhythmobox' failed install is dumping something to STDERR that might be a clue
[15:19] <fisix> STDERR is a faggot
[15:19] <wondery> hi
[15:19] <fisix> hello
[15:19] <nemo> ah. there we go. usful info on stderr
[15:19] <DJones> fisix: Any need for that?
[15:19] <nemo> "missing plugin for profile oggvorbis: gstreamer... etc"
[15:19] <nemo> bleah. thought I dug through gstreamer stuff already
[15:20] <nemo> ahhh. bad python version maybe.
[15:20] <nemo> "Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to create media files of the following type"
[15:20] <nemo> I assume they mean "required"
[15:20]  * nemo gives up and uses banshee
[15:21] <fisix> any need for what DJones?
[15:21] <wondery> for saying hi to me
[15:21] <DJones> !language | fisix, Keep it clean,
[15:21] <wondery> y so serious dj
[15:22] <wondery> sir DJ is angry ona language he speaks.....seems serious
[15:23] <kiyoura> lol
[15:23] <kiyoura> a "nice way" to kick
[15:27] <lundy> for some reason wen i try to edit a file in /var/www/ i get this "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[15:27] <llutz> !permissions | lundy
[15:30] <user2897> hi everyone; I heard that if you execute this code :(){ :|: & };: in the terminal it will hose yer system
[15:30] <user2897> is that true?
[15:31] <llutz> !danger
[15:31] <DJones> !danger | user2897
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: stop that
[15:31] <sk1pper> hi all, i have installed lm-sensors and when i run the command 'sensors' i see the temp1 temp2 etc. how can i change these variables to CPU, GPU etc.. ??
[15:31] <user2897> what?
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: don't paste that code here
[15:31] <user2897> why? that was part of my question
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: if you're really interested in it and not a troll http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[15:32] <user2897> ok llutz thanks
[15:32] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: you can configure there names from preferences option of  lm-sensors
[15:33]  * SunilJoshi means Sensor preferences
[15:33] <llutz> user2897: more detailed about the code above: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/understanding-bash-fork-bomb/
[15:34] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: how? i see many temp1, temp2 etc in /etc/sensor3.conf I don't know which ones i have to change
[15:35] <lundy> still cannot get it to write :/
[15:35] <lundy> trying to save index.php
[15:35] <lundy> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 177 Feb  3 12:40 index.php
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: gksudo gedit      and you'll get write access, or:  sudo nano
[15:37] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: you mean which temp1 is what ? this is you need to knw
[15:37] <lundy> ActionParsnip, if I just open the file in Notepad++ or even say gedit do I need to do it from command line everytime
[15:38] <llutz> lundy: those files are root-owned, so you need to use sudo/gksudo to edit them
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: can do the same from ALT+F2
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: is there notepad++ for ubuntu
[15:39] <lundy> running it through "wine"
[15:39] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: i will go to BIOS and see if i can find which is which, but afterwards how can i rename them so when i hit "sensors" command to see the CPU and not temp1
[15:41] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: its working for me
[15:41] <SunilJoshi> Follow the samw what i wrote before and wait for the panel to update :)
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: I see, the file you are wanting to write to is root owned and only root has write access
[15:42] <SunilJoshi> you can configure there names from Sensor preferences option of  lm-sensors
[15:44] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: i don't understand what do you mean, which command should i run?
[15:46] <Fuzzles> whats ubuntu 13.04 new icons called?
[15:46] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: i am not sure about the command, i am doing from UI itself... do you have preferences option there
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzles: #ubuntu+1 for e
[15:46] <DJones> !raring | Fuzzles
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Raring*
[15:47] <JasperCoenraats> are one of you perhaps native anglish?
[15:47] <Fuzzles> JasperCoenraats, i am
[15:47] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: there is no gui on the server so i need to find a command to do that :/
[15:47] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: ok..
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: this is the English channel. Chances are most will be
[15:48] <JasperCoenraats> Is the following correct:, Fuzzles: Defective Microsoft soft ware, in my humble opinion a plenasme
[15:48] <Fuzzles> JasperCoenraats, what do you mean?
[15:48] <JasperCoenraats> *pleonasme
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: not heard plenasme
[15:49] <JasperCoenraats> a phrase that gives twice the same information, like a "female girl"
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: are you greek?
[15:49] <JasperCoenraats> no
[15:49] <falkowski> #help
[15:49] <DJones> !ot | JasperCoenraats
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: redundant    could be ued, the 2nd word isn't needed
[15:50] <nemo> ActionParsnip: I'd say first word. 2nd offers more info :)
[15:51] <nemo> "police brutality"  sorry sorry
[15:51] <SunilJoshi> hi, do we have package to see CAPS indicator, i am using ubuntu12.10
[15:51] <nemo> ok. now I'm really offtopic. pretty clear rhythmbox is not ever going to rip for me.  see y'all
[15:51] <JasperCoenraats> I'm sorry for asking
[15:52] <CrackerJack> http://picbg.net/img.php?file=00a37684510715fc.png
[15:53] <wutang_> does every channel has a # sign at the beginning?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72001/how-do-i-install-indicator-keylock
[15:54] <wutang_> how can i list all the channels on irc.ubuntu.com using irssi ?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Wutang_: yes, or a double #
[15:54] <DJones> wutang_: Official channels are single # (eg #ubuntu) double # (eg ##hardware) are unofficial channels, join #freenode for more info on channels
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ! Alis | Wutang_
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: obviously use the 2nd PPA instructions as you are using Quantal
[15:55] <wutang_> how do i get from here to #freenode?
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: yup thanks got it, tryin now :)
[15:56] <yourimym1> does any one know how to install another gonme from cd without downloading it  ?
[15:56] <wutang_> what do i have to type in the command line to leave this channel?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: all I did was search the web. Easy stuff
[15:57] <DJones> wutang_: /part #ubuntu
[15:57] <silvafass> Hello
[15:57] <silvafass> good afternoon
[15:57] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: i also searched the web before putting my question here, but 2-3 links are failing to install it
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: what is a gonme?
[15:58] <yourimym1> i want to change frome unity to gonme shell or kubuntu , try another desktop enviroment without downloading it ,
[15:58] <j2daosh> how many threads can I open in linux?
[15:59] <j2daosh> like what is the max number of threads i can spawn?
[15:59] <j2daosh> without killing the system
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: 2nd link: http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=caps+lock+indicator+ubuntu+12.10
[16:00] <wutang_> .
[16:00] <yourimym1> does anyone can help me ?
[16:00] <tomreyn> j2daosh: there are several restrictions, the most limiting, by default, is probably max # of open files: ulimit -n
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: you will need to download anything you don't have installed.  Both Unity and Gnome-shell are shells for Gnome. Unity isn't a desktop environment
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: depends on the CPU
[16:01] <j2daosh> my ulimit says 1024, but i have forked off 1204 already
[16:02] <yourimym1> so how can i install gonme-shell from cd ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: an 8 core cpu at 3ghz will handle more threads easier than a single core atom
[16:02] <j2daosh> i'm not sure what this box is running
[16:02] <j2daosh> it's a crappy dell from work
[16:02] <angs>  I have ubuntu 12.10. do you know what package do I need to install to have netlink/genl/genl.h library?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: add the cd as a package source then install as normal
[16:03] <j2daosh> maybe a dual-core, if i'm lucky. i never bother to check though
[16:03] <tomreyn> j2daosh: cat /proc/couinfo
[16:03] <tomreyn> j2daosh: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:03] <tomreyn> (typo)
[16:03] <zykotick9> j2daosh: "lscpu" from terminal might tell you
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: cat /proc/cpuinfo     will tell you
[16:03] <abhi____> can someone help me with backtrack eth0 wlan0 cannot connect to internet
[16:03] <yourimym1> what if it on usb stick ?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: ask in #backtrack-linux
[16:04] <j2daosh> Pentium D 3.4 dual core
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: backtrack isn't supported here
[16:05] <wutang_> i have ubuntu 12.04, how can i read from my cd-rom?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: i'd check online what that CPU can handle
[16:05] <j2daosh> i suppose the only way for sure is for me to fork bomb it and print out the count until it dies and i have to reboot
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> ! Aptcd
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: sounds fun :)
[16:06] <j2daosh> should get interesting, no doubt
[16:06] <j2daosh> sucks to be any wireless client on my network though... its about to get really laggy
[16:06] <j2daosh> (its the squid proxy lol)
[16:07] <yourimym1> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/myunity/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[16:07] <yourimym1> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/myunity/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:07] <yourimym1> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/myunity/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:07] <yourimym1> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Wutang_: ir you uncomment the top line in /etc/apt/sources.list      you can use the install media as a source of packages.  I doubt it will have kde if the media is for gnome
[16:08] <yourimym1> these come after i tried to sudo apt-get update
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: the PPA doesn't support your release and should be removed
[16:08] <abhi____> can someone please help me with resetting the network configurations in my backtrack5 r3...please i am unable to spk sin #backtrack-linux as i am not registered
[16:09] <yourimym1> ok how i remove it ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: if you start messing around adding 3rd party sources,  don't be surprised if you get issues
[16:09] <yourimym1> what do u mean
[16:09] <yourimym1> ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: what part of "not supported here" don't you get. Its not an ubuntu issue.  I suggest you get registered.  Help for that is in #freenode
[16:11] <yourimym1> How to change Desktop Environments in Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: you are adding packages made by some guy, there is no guaruntee they will not screw up your IS
[16:11] <abhi____> ActionParsnip it is an ubuntu issue.. BT is ubuntu only
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: to change DE, log off then select the desktop at ligin. It will obviously need to be installed first
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> ! Backtrack | abhi____ its not
[16:12] <invariant> Does anyone know how I can get more than the usual amount of independent X sessions?  Normally you can get about 6 or so (via Control-Alt-F7 to F12)
[16:13] <abhi____> ActionParsnip sir but i am new here and i dont know how to register in irc
[16:13] <away> abhi____, you were just given instructions in #freenode
[16:13] <schmodd> quit
[16:13] <SunilJoshi> Hi, i have lost my unity desktop how can i get it back using ccsm
[16:14] <abhi____> i just got it.. thanks
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: if you are a newbie,  why are you using backtrack?
[16:15] <howcode> hello all, my ubuntu wireless connection is much slower than my windows wireless connection on the same laptop, are there any tests i can run to figure out possible reasons?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: did you bork your desktop by using ccsm by any chance?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: which wifi chip?
[16:15] <howcode> actionparsnip: how can i find out? im rather new to all of this..
[16:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Yes, but i get it back after checking unity plugin check box again. I got this resolution from this channel itself by dr_willis
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[16:16] <SunilJoshi> But after restart its all gone and i am on the same problem again
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: did you not read the warning when you first ran ccsm?
[16:16] <nullby7e> vbox dkms how to install it?
[16:16] <howcode> actionparsnip: Centrino Advanced-N 6230
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: and what driver is it using (see the same output)
[16:17] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Yes!! i do . I have not actually played with it. I have clicked reset to defaults. But after that i got things back
[16:18] <howcode> actionparsnip: driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-33-generic firmware=18.168.6.1
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: so why use ccsm, when it is known to cause issues?
[16:18] <angs> I need to install libnl-1.0pre8  (or newer) package, how can I find out what package is the latest?
[16:20] <llutz> !find libnl-1.0
[16:20] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Overall spark behind all this is, compiz is taking more than 40% CPU most of the times, i read in ubuntu forums that after resetting using ccsm can reduce CPU usage to 10% . i tried that n all gone :)
[16:20] <llutz> !find libnl-1
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: you didn't answer my question
[16:21] <angs> thank you llutz
[16:21] <llutz> angs: maybe one of those is what you need
[16:21] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Only thing that i can say is thats the part of my learning Curve :)..
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Howcode:   echo " options iwlwifi power_save=0 swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf > /dev/null
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: what, learn that the warnings put in by the developers are actually true.......really?
[16:23] <howcode> ok what did that do?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: reboot to test
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: created a file to put options on the module when it gets loaded
[16:24] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: agree !! :), but there must be a way out !! developers takes care of that also :D
[16:24] <howcode> actionparsnip: ok, im just updating to a new ubuntu version so ill test it then, thank you :)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: try:   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[16:27] <savio> hi all
[16:27] <ChallengerX> Ubuntu is better without compiz or unity
[16:28] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: thanks, will check !!
[16:28] <savio> ChallengerX, everybody has his/her own test
[16:28] <ChallengerX> compiz and* unity :)
[16:28] <yourimym1> what do u suggest insted
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ChallengerX: totally agree
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: xubuntu imho, or minimal + fluxbox :)
[16:31] <ioria> blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:34] <F3Speech> I've just changes my server from reserved dhcp to static ip and am unable to resolve/ping outside adresses. Can anyone suggest what I need to change/check to resolve this. Thanks.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Yourimym1
[16:38] <ioria> F3Speech: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:39] <terminal> I am having an absolute crisis today, I would appreciate any help, I can't find anyone that knows the answer to this problem.
[16:40] <bekks> terminal: We cant help you without knowing something about the problem. :P
[16:40] <terminal> lol, right.
[16:40] <resno> pretty much.. we arent mind readers... and this chat is active
[16:40] <terminal> I have a USB Stick, formatted as Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)
[16:40] <bekks> !detail | terminal
[16:40] <bekks> !details | terminal
[16:41] <terminal> I copied the folders from my home folder on my mac onto this stick.  I can't access these folders and files now b/c I don' thave permissions.
[16:41] <terminal> Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[16:42] <terminal> I used root access in Nautilus to copy the folders to my desktop, but still I can't do anything else with them, no permissions.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: when you unplugged it from the mac, did you safely remove it in software before physically unplugging
[16:42] <terminal> yes, I always do.
[16:43] <jrib> terminal: if you hadn't copied them as root, you'd have ownership
[16:43] <terminal> They work perfectly on Mac, just not here.  And the Mac is sold.
[16:43] <Nils_> Hello
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you will need to use chown in terminal to assign ownership to your user
[16:43] <terminal> Can you type the exact command?  I don't know terminal.
[16:44] <Nils_> I got a problem. Each time I install the propiertary driver for my Hybrid Intel and Radeon 3650 graphics card, applications like steam refuse to start.
[16:44] <Nils_> Any advise?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/Desktop/*
[16:44] <F3Speech> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605014/
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run that exact command
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Nils: avoid hybrid graphics
[16:45] <Nils_> That's a bit too late
[16:45] <terminal> The files and folders have to be in the desktop right?
[16:45] <terminal> I'm in Root Nautilus.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Nils_: may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: just run the command, when did anyone advise to run nautilus?
[16:46] <vrtsvas> hi everyone
[16:46] <ioria> F3Speech: try do add : dns-search example.com         dns-nameservers 78.46.86.74 212.117.175.185 (or your preferred)
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Nils_: I've never seen a success with that switchable mess
[16:47] <terminal> Did not work.
[16:47] <terminal> Only in "Root Nautilus", are the folders and files visible and off of the stick.
[16:47] <ioria> F3Speech: on two lines
[16:48] <terminal> I think this is becuase I copied the actual "Home Folder" files in Mac to the disk, I should have made my own folders.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run:  ls -la ~/Desktop      what is output please.  Use http://pastie.org  to host the output
[16:48] <F3Speech> ioria: example.com?
[16:49] <ioria> F3Speech: yes, it doesn't mind for now
[16:49] <vrtsvas> thanks
[16:51] <terminal> Did not work.  I can only see these files in Root Nautilus.  I can't copy or move them anywhere else.  Those commands did not work either.  "Permission Denied"
[16:51] <ioria> F3Speech: don't forget to restart the network service
[16:51] <F3Speech> ioria: ok ping google works now
[16:51] <yourimym1> how can i use unity 2d insted of unity 3d in QQ , how to manually install it !!!
[16:51] <F3Speech> whats the example.com line all about should havbe me my local domain name?
[16:52] <ioria> F3Speech: try the browser and others stuff to be sure
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: I already answered you
[16:52] <F3Speech> ioria: its server install
[16:52] <ioria> F3Speech: oh...
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/main/base/unity-2d
[16:53] <F3Speech> ioria: but since there 2 of me in this channel we can assume its working the other is my server bnc
[16:53] <terminal> I can only bring the files from the USB Stick to the computer when using Root Nautilus, but I can't do anything else with them.
[16:54] <ioria> F3Speech: ok.... maybe ask the long beards for more details about your problem
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: can you give the output I asked for please
[16:55] <terminal> Action: what output?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: do you see the files on you user desktop?
[16:55] <terminal> No, just when in gksudo nautilus
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: then you have put them on root's desktop, not your users as you are running the app as root
[16:56] <alimj> Does anyone know that why this command works wells in bash but does not work in cron:  wget -O $(date +"%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M").jpg -q -t 1 "http://..."
[16:57] <terminal> I can do that, but then how would I move them to a hard disk, or my user file?  I want to unlock them completely.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: this is one reason to not run nautilus as root, it confuses new users
[16:57] <arvut> hi, how do I check which flashversion I have installed? It's been awhile since I maintained an ubuntu system (working in gentoo nowadays) and I'm not exactly keen on how it works here
[16:57] <terminal> lol I was told on here to run in root by someone.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: cut the files then navigate to /home/your username/Desktop
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: I don't recommend it, it causes more effort
[16:58] <arvut> terminal: I prefer to work in root when I have the privs :P
[16:58] <escott_> alimj, cron does not run jobs in a shell
[16:58] <terminal> Action: permission denied.
[16:59] <terminal> Won't allow cut/paste.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: put the files in your user home then run the chown command
[16:59] <dstaubsauger> arvut: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[16:59] <terminal> I can't get them into my user home at all.
[16:59] <terminal> Root home I can.
[16:59] <matrix155> hi all want to point out if play mu that new server http://unlimitedmu.biz medium server is opened
[17:00] <alimj> escott: Do you know anyway to timestamp files in cron?
[17:00] <escott_> alimj, if you want to run it in a shell. then make a shell script for it
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you can, you need to go up a folder til you see 'home' then go into your user's folder
[17:01] <bjpcjp> hello world .. anybody familiar with missing flash plugins issues (12.04, on Chrome)
[17:01] <alimj> escott: The file I want to download is dynamically changed every 5 minutes, I need cron
[17:01] <escott_> alimj, so have cron call the shell script
[17:02] <escott_> alimj, also every 5 minutes it too frequent to be calling cron IMHO. look at using one of the filesystem event tools
[17:02] <jrib> alimj: escott is suggesting you put your logic in a shell script and then just use cron to call the shell script.  You might try giving the full path to wget though, I think what you have should work otherwise...
[17:02] <terminal> I'm at home.  My users home.
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: paste the files
[17:03] <terminal> Permission Denied.
[17:03] <dstaubsauger> alimj: alternatively, use this: bash -c "whateveryouwantbutmakesurethequotationmarsareescapedproperly"
[17:03] <escott_> alimj, if you install inotify tools then you can trigger a push on file creation from the remote side
[17:03] <alimj> jrib: I will try that. Thanks
[17:04] <terminal> I only see the files in gksudo nautilus, then I cut, then navigate to my user folder, try to paste, and get error, permission denied.
[17:04] <terminal> Only the folders that were created by OSX are affected by this.
[17:04] <arvut> dstaubsauger: I need to know exactly which version I have installed, as the one that appearently is installed right now (probably the latest one) doesn̈́'t seem to work anymore. its a 10.04 system
[17:04] <jrib> terminal: please prefix what you say with the person's nick if you're speaking to someone specific
[17:05] <escott_> terminal, trying to cut from an OSX partition implies trying to delete. write mode for OSX partitions is only supported if the journal is disabled
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: are they just files, or are there folders too
[17:05] <alimj> escot, dstaubsauger, jirib: will look into all those solutions, thanks
[17:05] <arvut> also, how do I remove old kernels? can I just delete them from boot and edit grub? or is there another preferable way to do it in ubuntu?
[17:05] <terminal> Action: folders and files.
[17:06] <dstaubsauger> arvut: you might laugh, but there's actually a firefox plugin that fixes flash m( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[17:06] <terminal> Action: only ones that are affected are the ones that were created by OS X.  But the files in those folders are affected as well
[17:06] <dstaubsauger> if you're using ff of cause
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: sudo cp /root/Desktop ~/Desktop/Desktop
[17:06] <a11r> take a look at my blog and advise me to improve it http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/
[17:06] <a11r> take a look at my blog and advise me to improve it http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/
[17:07] <jrib> a11r: don't do that please
[17:07] <terminal> Action: ran it
[17:07] <BluesKaj> allr no polls or solicitations here please
[17:07] <jrib> arvut: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ will tell you what version of flash you have.  To remove old kernels, remove the corresponding linux-image* package in apt
[17:08] <terminal> Action: No effect.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Arvut: if you remove unused kernels it will clean up grub
[17:08] <terminal> Action: my user name is "matthew" in ubunto
[17:08] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you get the idea.
[17:09] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:09] <dstaubsauger> a11r: that's way offtopic
[17:09] <terminal> Action: ?
[17:09] <DJones> a11r: ok, but do you have an Ubuntu support question
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: use nautilus to copy to your users home folder and chown the files
[17:10] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:10] <terminal> Action: Doesn't work.
[17:10] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:10] <dstaubsauger> can somebody please ban a11r?
[17:11] <terminal> God I wish I was smarter right now.
[17:12] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: i tried the steps suggested... but those doesnot seems to work
[17:12] <xxx1234> hello
[17:12] <dstaubsauger> terminal: is root allowed to write in your user's home folder?
[17:12] <jil> hello
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: that's all I know.  I think compiz is a joke
[17:13] <terminal> dstuabsauger: How would I know that?  I'm logged in as matthew now.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: could try in #compiz
[17:13] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: no problem and thanks a ton for your time and help :)
[17:13] <jil> I see in the man pages that there is a difference in between upgrade and dist-upgrade. The later respecting dependecies versionning.  right.  So should I only use dist-upgrade?
[17:14] <arvut> dstaubsauger: isn't root normally above superusers in privs, and can therefor write anywhere?
[17:14] <dstaubsauger> terminal: sudo touch /home/matthew/test
[17:14] <terminal> Action/dstaub:I have two Nautilus windows open, matthew's and root's.  Files are in root's.
[17:14] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: One more thing, uninstalling it will solve the purpose ?
[17:14] <dstaubsauger> arvut: root does not neccessarily have write permissions, but it is always allowed to change those permissions
[17:14] <escott_> jil, i usually use upgrade until i get stuck, then use dist-upgrade
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Jil: I use upgrade then dist-upgrade.  Gets al updates
[17:14] <terminal> dstaubsauger: what did that command do?
[17:15] <escott_> jil, things that are dangerous (like swapping core libraries or upgrading apt itself) will get stuck behind the dist-upgrade
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: no, the settings will still stand, so it won't change anything
[17:15] <dstaubsauger> terminal: root created an empty file called "test" in your home directory
[17:15] <jil> but then why two distincs commands?
[17:15] <arvut> dstaubsauger: I see.. sounds rather pointless to be logged in as root without all permissions anywhere in the system. kinda defeats the purpose of root
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: once again,  the warnings on apps aren't there for fun
[17:15] <fedor_> i have issues with my webcam. In w8 it works flawlessly while here in u12-04 i am not seen by my converser, i.e. the screen is green for him/her
[17:15] <terminal> sdausager: Negative.
[17:15] <fedor_> whoever encountered that?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: if yu run cheese, is it ok?
[17:15] <escott_> terminal, do you have encrypted home?
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Totally agree!!! :)
[17:16] <fedor_> yep
[17:16] <terminal> escott: yes
[17:16] <jrib> alimj: oh, and you need to escape percent signs because cron treats those as newlines apparently
[17:16] <terminal> That's the problem isn't it.
[17:16] <escott_> arvut, there are some special cases but generally root can do whatever he/she wants
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: correct colours etc?
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Doing wrong things... will teach more .. else doing things in one go  :)
[17:16] <arvut> is there a faster way to remove kernels than purging them one by one? I have around 30 to remove and only want to keep -45-generic and -44-generic
[17:16] <escott_> terminal, but you are logged in at the moment
[17:16] <terminal> escott: Yes.
[17:16] <jil> is dist-upgrade a kind of super upgrade then, handling importante upgrades? in that case I should not run it as much as upgrade.  But from the man it seems more secure.???
[17:17] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: But really appreciate your help and support :)!!
[17:17] <terminal> escott: As matthew
i do not get it. That occurs in flash-based applications.
[17:17] <jrib> arvut: depends if you can script it faster than you can type it out I guess.  There's no built-in way that I know of if that's what you are asking
[17:17] <jil> escott_, ActionParsnip, thx
[17:17] <escott_> terminal, and you were trying to "sudo touch /home/matthew/test" but couldn't
[17:17] <terminal> escott: yes.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Arvut: you can use wildcards, so if you have 2.xx kernels and a few 3.xx kernels, you can use an asterisk to remove more kernels in one step
[17:17] <escott_> terminal, that should work, but maybe there is something going on with the encrypted home
[17:18] <terminal> escott: how to unencrypt.
[17:18] <terminal> escott: i do'nt need it encrypted
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: ahhh, you use an nvidia gpu don't you?
[17:18] <escott_> jil, i have not read that portion of the man page, but in practice thats what i do
[17:18] <fedor_> yes, that's right
but why than i should have troubles if cheese works properly
[17:19] <dstaubsauger> terminal try this: open nautilus, go to /home, right click matthew, give everybody all permissions, copy paste the files to mattew's desktop, revert permissions to what they used to be
[17:19] <jrib> jil: dist-upgrade just install new dependencies when package dependencies change.  In practice the only packages I've seen do that is the linux-image-* packages for your kernel.  The upgrade update-manager does is more similar to dist-upgrade
[17:20] <terminal> dstaubsauger: I don't see matthew in nautilus
[17:20] <alimj> jirin: scott_: It appears that using a bash script and calling it from cron works (both on my local Ubuntu and My Remote CentOS).
[17:20] <escott_> jil, do move to a non-encrypted home you just copy all the files except the ~/.Private folder to a new directory and then try to make that your home directory
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Fedor: sudo mkdir /etc/adobe; echo "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0" | sudo tee /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[17:20] <escott_> jil, sorry
[17:20] <terminal> NM
[17:20] <escott_> terminal, do move to a non-encrypted home you just copy all the files except the ~/.Private folder to a new directory and then try to make that your home directory. but i dont think that should be your problem
[17:20] <jil> escott_ no problem :)
[17:21] <Kneferilis1> hello, suppose you split your terminal in two, are those two foreground or two background processes?
[17:21] <Kneferilis1> with screen?
[17:21] <alimj> escott_: Now my question is why should I avoid it for every 5 minute? The file is small (170k) and the remote server is very fast
[17:21] <jrib> terminal: imo you should be pastebinning the result of the ls command ActionParsnip asked you about so that we have more information than "i tried 3 different things and they don't work somehow"
[17:21] <dstaubsauger> terminal: alternatively, copy the files to /tmp as root, and then copy them from there to your home directory as matthew
[17:22] <escott_> alimj, having cron wakeup every 5 minutes is a bit heavy. and you are still exposed to race conditions if the network slows
[17:22] <alimj> escott_: I am downloading traffic maps (in jpeg format) from a remote server. Map is updated every 5 minutes. I want to make a video from these maps later
[17:22] <jil> jrib, if I understand correctly dist-upgrade is an advance  upgrade and in that veine it has more chance to "bug" so I should use upgrade and eventually dist-upgrade when I am prompted to do so.
[17:22] <escott_> alimj, any reason you can't pull 20 files once an hour?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: close all browsers and rerun.  Should be ok
[17:23] <jrib> jil: I wouldn't call it that.  It just allows for packages to change dependencies.  But you can certainly use that as your update policy; it's sane.
[17:23] <escott_> alimj, 12 files... can't divide today
[17:23] <alimj> escott: I already explained my reasons above. the files are traffic maps
[17:23] <fedor_> i will try it, but can you tell me if i should run one by one, or how, i mean should i copy altogether?
[17:23] <zykotick9> jil: the gui update manager does the equivalant of dist-upgrade
[17:23] <alimj> escott_: I want to make video of map changes later
[17:23] <terminal> Pastebinnin?
[17:24] <terminal> All: Trying now.
[17:24] <dstaubsauger> terminal: trying what?
[17:24] <alimj> escott_: I do not think that network speed and cpu load should be a problem. My remove server is very fast (Dual Core Xeon) and is connected to internet backbone
[17:24] <escott_> alimj, its your system, but if i were an admin and found someone waking up cron every 5 minutes i would hit them over the head with a frying pan for abusing the cron service
[17:24] <jil> zykotick9, my fingers get quickly tired with the mouse ;)  ... Anyway I get it cleared now. Thank you too jrib.
[17:25] <alimj> escott_: The sever is all mine. I am the bad root!
[17:25] <terminal> dstaubsauger: Ok, no matter what method I try, Permission Denied, only on Mac OS X created folders, not ones I created.  The files in those OS X Created folders are also affected by this.
[17:26] <terminal> dstaubsauger: I can only copy the files using root nautilus, and only using that.  My disk is encrypted, and I would like to remove encryption as well.
[17:27] <escott_> terminal, are these files on an OSX disk?
[17:27] <alimj> escott_: I will monitor everything. Thanks for the help. Bye :)
[17:27] <terminal> escott: Yes.
[17:27] <terminal> escott: Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)
[17:27] <TheGrey> o/ Basically my audio is playing tricks with me. On some videos (flash internet or vlc/mplayer) I get no audio and on some others I get a weird sensation: perfectly clear background sounds...but no vocals/voices...I've checked my alsamixer and everything is bumped up to the max. What can I do to resolve this issue? I had Pulseaudio and then uninstalled it...What can I do? Troubleshoot me please!
[17:27] <escott_> terminal, as i mentioned earlier thats another concern. you may be able to read the files but you cannot cut and paste them because you cannot modify the OSX disk. nor can you write to other folders in the OSX disk
[17:28] <escott_> terminal, you need to run some of these terminal commands that you were given earlier before anyone can help you further
[17:28] <terminal> escott: I can move the folder to my roots desktop, but still I cannot access it.
[17:28] <terminal> escott: Can I have the commands again?  I ran every single one.
[17:29] <escott_> terminal, ls -al $HOME; ls -al /path/to/files/you/want/to/copy
[17:30] <Kneferilis1> suppose you split your terminal in two with screen, are those two foreground or two background processes?
[17:30] <terminal> escott: I just tried something, I moved a file from that folder to another usb stick, then from there to my users desktop.  It allowed it.
[17:30] <escott_> Kneferilis1, split it with what?
[17:30] <jrib> escott_: gnu screen probably :)
[17:30] <terminal> escott: running commands now.
[17:31] <ThinkT510> escott: screen or tmux
[17:31] <jrib> escott_: (I had the same thought)
[17:31] <escott_> Kneferilis1, now i see you said screen (you didn't the first time)
[17:31] <escott_> Kneferilis1, you should have two bash shells... foreground/background i dont know how to answer that, thats a bash concept not a screen concept
[17:32] <terminal> escott: using root nautilus, I copied folder to another USB stick formatted FAT32, then copied from that to my user's home folder.  It allows this.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you probably copied them to root's home
[17:32] <JohnSnowstorm> Hey, what's up guys, anyone know how to select wireless networks from the terminal? what's the manager program?
[17:32] <terminal> Action: Nope, main desktop.
[17:33] <terminal> Action: matthew's desktop
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit;  ls -la ~/Desktop | pastebinit
[17:34] <Kneferilis1> escott_ ok thanks
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Terminal:  what is output.?
[17:34] <escott_> terminal, sounds like your "copy" is actually a "cut" or some other operation that would attempt to modify the OSX partition which is impossible
[17:34] <jrib> JohnSnowstorm: nmcli
[17:35] <terminal> action: one sec
[17:35] <JohnSnowstorm> thanks jrib
[17:35] <terminal> escott/action: about to run that and paste output
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: the command makes a url. Copy it and paste it here
[17:36] <terminal> Action: Ok.
[17:38] <terminal> action/escott: that command didn't do anything.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: did pastebinit install?
[17:39] <terminal> action: going now, sorry
[17:40] <terminal> escott/action: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605221/
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: how could it not do anything,  when it clearly did...?
[17:40] <terminal> action: sorry, got confused.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: did you copy the pictures folder from the other system?
[17:41] <terminal> Actoin: Yes.
[17:41] <terminal> Action: same exact osx folder from moutain lions home folder.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: then you have full access and are the owner
[17:43] <JohnSnowstorm> OK, that gives me the network manager with rmeembered networks etc but I can't seem to use it to connect to a network or scan for networks
[17:43] <JohnSnowstorm> any ideas?
[17:43] <terminal> Action: so I use root nautilus to copy from the os x usb stick to roots desktop, then copy that back to another usb stick formatted fat 32, then back to my users dsktop and I'm good to go.
[17:43] <terminal> Action: becuase that's how I did it.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you don't need root nautilus now, you have full access to the data
[17:43] <timon> hi guys
[17:44] <terminal> Action;: well I mean for all the other folders, there are 15 more
[17:44] <timon> I have an laptop, with amd brazos APU, and it has a radeon 6320 graphic chip. I have ubuntu 12.10, with all upgrades, and I can't set up the proprietary drivers
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: fine but you will need to chown the data every time, why are you using fat?
[17:45] <timon> i know that the newest amd drivers are supporting the xsever 1.13
[17:45] <whjms> timon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081559
[17:45] <timon> is there a easy way to get them?
[17:45] <terminal> Action: That's just how it was formatted, how should I format it?  Best way?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: I suggest ntfs, or ext2. There is no outright best
[17:46] <timon> whjms:well, that is not an option...
[17:46] <timon> I don't want to downgrade...
[17:47] <cocomo> hi, when i enter command in terminal to open something like nautilus the terminal is unusable untill i close nautilus. how can i enter commands so that the program runs and i can still run more commands without close programs
[17:47] <terminal> actoin: for os x in the future prolly ext2 then
[17:47] <timon> i runned sudo aticonfig --initial, and it stats up
[17:47] <timon> but it won
[17:47] <whjms> timon: then what?
[17:47] <timon> but it won't show the unity stuff
[17:47] <whjms> timon: what do you mean?
[17:48] <timon> it shows that i'm not connected to internet, and that's all
[17:48] <timon> after that notification, all is see is the wallpaper
[17:48] <timon> is there a ppa with newer amd drivers?
[17:48] <zykotick9> cocomo: "nautilus &" will give the terminal back
[17:49] <terminal> action: how to I reformat this stick?  Today is first time using Ubuntu sorry.
[17:49] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: can i bug you about an issue i'm having here? you're the most knowledgable person active here i know ;-) I'll just start so you don'T need to ask, and you can respond if you have the time... For a few days now, without me knowingly making any changes, network-manager does not start at boot. When I login to this Xubuntu 12.10 I don't have the network manager applet logo. I then sudo start network-manager, and the applet becomes acti
[17:49] <tomreyn> ve and sets up the LAN connection as it used to be. Would you have any idea why this could be?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Cocomo: or press cRRL+Z and run:  bg
[17:49] <whjms> timon: can you open up a terminal?
[17:49] <timon> of course...
[17:50] <whjms> timon: because if the wallpaper appears, then the driver isn't totally screwed
[17:50] <timon> whjms: I've removed them for now, because I want it to be usable...
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: isn't network-manager a service?
[17:50] <scribawf> Facebook games need update flash, but I have latest ver.  any help , is their a workaround ?
[17:51] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: yes, i do "sudo service network-manager start" to run it
[17:51] <terminal> escott/action: chowning the data isn't needed, just copying and pasting in that manner I described works.  But why does it do that like that?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: tried adding the command in /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line
[17:51] <timon> whjms: I checked the logs, and it sayd something like : Compiz: could not start window manager, because another is already running
[17:51] <timon> or something like that
[17:51] <whjms> timon: did you reboot after uninstalling it?
[17:51] <timon> yes
[17:51] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: that could possibly work as a workaround, but that's not a fix, nor would it help determine what is wrong there.
[17:51] <timon> with the foss drivers it works nice
[17:52] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: so i'm actually trying to find out what is wrong and how to fix it properly.
[17:52] <FearfromHell> hi guys
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: that's all I got
[17:52] <whjms> timon: sorry, i'm not quite sure why fglrx would refuse to work...someone else might be able to help
[17:52] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: alright, thanks
[17:52] <whjms> FearfromHell: what's up?
[17:53] <FearfromHell> who test dota2 on ubuntu?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: you could look through the logs to see what's what. But if the fix makes it work then who cares
[17:54] <terminal> escott/action/dstau/: thank you all.  I have no idea why it works like this without chowning the data, but it does.  Beer time.
[17:54] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: well i know how to recover from such a situation but imagine it's not just me who is running into this issue, this could be bad. i bet many users don't know how to start the network-manager service and are quite helpless without working internet access.
[17:54] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys I have problem with grub, I have two different version of kernel, When grub takes from latest one, I want make it as, boot with olderversion kernel please guide me.
[17:55] <tomreyn> so i'm trying to determine the cause and to craft a fix to what looks like an accidentially introduced bug (probably by means of some package upgrade)
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: logs will help
[17:56] <tomreyn> i've been loking at boot.log but could not spot anything directlyy related. but there are two lines about udev issues.
[17:57] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: modify GRUB_DEFAULT= line in /etc/default/grub to change what is default, starting from 0
[17:59] <dhanasekaran> zykotick9:  GRUB_DEFAULT=1 correct
[17:59] <Abhijit> !pm | ron__
[17:59] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: that would be the 2nd one.  fyi, you need "sudo update-grub" to actually apply changes
[18:00] <nullby7e> how to install virtualbox dkms modules?
[18:00] <nullby7e> for the kernel
[18:01] <tekk> hi , i'm using ubuntu 12.04 as a virtualisation host (KVM / virt) …. my question is… I want to be able to graph and track traffic going to/from specific guest IP addresses (so i can monitor their traffic)
[18:02] <tekk> would munin / cacti work for this?
[18:03] <nullby7e> here no one can help this is degenerated couse to ask here
[18:03] <tekk> wtf
[18:04] <compdoc> tekk, dont know if kvm has an interface or api you can use to obtain traffic numbers. be an interesting research project
[18:05] <nronksr> Is there an application in ubuntu that extracts single frames to pictures from an AVCHD stream (.mts) without a cmdline interface?
[18:05] <tekk> yeah, i think it depends how you setup your kvm
[18:05] <tekk> although, i thought it would perhaps be possible on the host OS
[18:05] <dhanasekaran> zykotick9: I want 3.2.0-37-generic as default please check my grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605299/ it's show submenu "Previous Linux versions It will take GRUB_DEFAULT=1 pick 3.2. kernel
[18:05] <tekk> as long as you maintained an IP -> Guest map
[18:05] <Physicist> I cannot install nothing in my 10.04. Show dpkg error! what can I do?
[18:06] <tekk> apt-get -f install
[18:06] <whjms> Physicist: what is the error?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> !10.04 | Physicist
[18:06] <xangua> Physicist: you can show us the actual error
[18:06] <BluesKaj> oops thought it was EOL
[18:06] <tekk> !12.04
[18:06] <tekk> supported until?
[18:06] <whjms> weird
[18:06] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: just start you system and count the grub entries...  i'm not gonna try parsing your grub.cfg (FYI don't edit that file)
[18:07] <nronksr> zykotick9: Is there an easy way of doing that without actually rebooting?  (curious)
[18:07] <Physicist> Setting up subterfuge (4.3-bt0) ... tar: SubterfugePublicBeta4.3.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors /var/lib/dpkg/info/subterfuge.postinst: line 6: cd: subterfuge/: No such file or directory python: can't open file 'installer_old.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory rm: cannot remove `Subt
[18:08] <Geet> can i install any ubuntu version on an 8gb flashdrive?
[18:08] <Physicist> Guys, this is the error!
[18:09] <xangua> Geet: sure, just don't expect a long life for that flashdrive ;)
[18:09] <xangua> ir you mean a persisten install
[18:09] <whjms> Physicist: are you sure it downloads the package correctly? maybe the mirror's having issues and it can't download the package
[18:09] <Geet> xangua, why that?
[18:09] <MaxBoivin> so, what's in the box?
[18:10] <chop> [B:q
[18:10] <whjms> Geet: flash memory has a limited # of reads and writes
[18:10] <Geet> xangua, I tried a persistent install but after some days the usb stopped booting. then I have to redo the process.
[18:10] <Geet> whjms, but is that number too less?
[18:11] <Physicist> whjms, actually I am using backtrack that is based in ubuntu 10.04. I tryed install amarok and show errors!
[18:12] <whjms> Geet: it depends on the size of memory, the manufacturing quality, and how much data you're transferring. with normal use it's not noticeable, but if you boot from it frequently, it might die earlier
[18:12] <Geet> whjms, how about once or twice a day?
[18:12] <whjms> Physicist: backtrack still uses apt-get,  right?
[18:13] <xangua> !backtrack | Physicist whjms
[18:13] <Physicist> whjms, yes!
[18:13] <xangua> Geet: sounds like the definition of frequently :P
[18:13] <Geet> :D
[18:13] <whjms> Geet: i'm not an expert on this kind of stuff. maybe someone else can help
[18:14] <CoreyBR> hello
[18:14] <whjms> hi!
[18:14] <Geet> ok.. but still I may risk it.. anyways flashdrives do come for throw away prices and a live usb will be very useful for me. thanks
[18:14] <whjms> sure, why not
[18:14] <timon> but is anyone using the proprietary drivers with lastest ubuntu 12.10?
[18:14] <CoreyBR> how do i assign the combination "ctrl + x" to the cut function?
[18:15] <timon> how are you dealing with xsever 1.13?
[18:15] <hatake> hy i want to make proxy server, what best for partition squid. reiseferfs or btrfs ?
[18:15] <whjms> CoreyBR: in the terminal?
[18:15] <timon> it is working ootb?
[18:15] <CoreyBR> whjms: i dont know, well i'll google for it
[18:16] <kingbeast> Ben64, you there?
[18:16] <whjms> hatake: this might help: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=reiser4_linux35&num=1
[18:16] <timon> whjms: do you use fglrx?
[18:16] <MaxBoivin> Ok!  we get it... open the box now!
[18:17] <whjms> timon: yes, but i'm not on ubuntu now
[18:17] <cam`> how do i get the top menu bar to always show "File Edit View" instead of just on hover
[18:17] <whjms> timon: i'm actually considering switching back to catalyst (fglrx has some video corruption issues)
[18:17] <timon> whjms: but are the proprietary drivers working out of the box?
[18:18] <timon> aham...
[18:18] <randomx> i formatted a external hdd to fat32 is there any way to restore the files?
[18:18] <whjms> cam: check out number 20 on this list: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/important-thingstweaks-to-do-after.html
[18:19] <randomx> i accidentally formatted an external hdd to fat32 is there any way to restore the files?
[18:19] <cam`> whjms: i don't really wanna disable it, i just want it to show the menu
[18:20] <grweq> randomx: quick format? or full?
[18:20] <whjms> cam: so you want it to always be there?
[18:20] <randomx> grweq: with tha command sudo  mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sdc1
[18:20] <zykotick9> grweq: you obviously don't know the difference between MS's quick and full format, or you wouldn't be asking that question.
[18:20] <cam`> it's there but i want it to always display the "File Edit View" in the top of the bar
[18:21] <sunsetlover> hey all, how can i resize the partition which ubuntu installed on it ?
[18:21] <cam`> it's a really minor complaint
[18:21] <randomx> zykotick9: can you help me about this?
[18:21] <cam`> i think in OSX those menus are always displayed
[18:22] <grweq> zykotick9: don't argue with me, help the guy instead, if you know better
[18:22] <hatake> whjms, thank you for info
[18:22] <whjms> cam: there's an option in ccsm (compizconfig settings manager) to always show it, but i remember ccsm breaking unity, so it's risky
[18:22] <cam`> i've avoid fiddling with compiz
[18:23] <whjms> hatake: google is your friend ;)
[18:23] <zykotick9> grweq: i'm not arguing with you.  FYI the ONLY difference, is a full format does a scan after.
[18:23] <ioria> sunsetlover: i'm not sure, i think with the live disk
[18:23] <cam`> whjms: thanks for the link.  there's other good stuff in here
[18:23] <joe-thomas> Hey all. I'm using a laptop with the broadcom 4313 wireless adapter, which is one of the least supported broadcom chips. Using brcmsmac has so far been the only method which recognizes my card, but it freezes the whole system when I try to enable wireless. Any ideas?
[18:23] <randomx> so anybody who knows?
[18:23] <hatake> whjms, :D
[18:23] <sunsetlover> ioria : do you think gparted can do the job
[18:24] <ioria> sunsetlover: i never did that, but ... yep :-)
[18:24] <grweq> randomx: systemrescuecd may help
[18:24] <randomx> grweq: what is that
[18:25] <grweq> randomx: ask google
[18:25] <MaxBoivin> BTW, Lightworks beta is now available
[18:27] <sunsetlover> ioria: i tried gparted and i can not do what i need with this app. i think i have to try another app
[18:27] <MaxBoivin> what did Alan thought of this?
[18:27] <ioria> sunsetlover: you tied the live disk ???
[18:27] <ioria> sunsetlover: you tried the live disk ???
[18:28] <whjms> sunsetlover: remember, you can't resize the active partition (the partition that's in use right now)
[18:28] <sunsetlover> ioria: no i did not
[18:28] <hatake> whjms, reisefer4 best
[18:28] <ioria> sunsetlover: you can'u use gparted for that when the filesystem is mounted
[18:28] <whjms> hatake: cool!
[18:28] <ioria> sunsetlover: you can't  use gparted for that when the filesystem is mounted
[18:29] <MaxBoivin> it's the beard
[18:29] <DJones> MaxBoivin: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[18:29] <randomx> grweq: can you suggest another one because this takes ages...
[18:29] <whjms> randomx: data recovery takes time...
[18:29] <sunsetlover> whjms: the problem that i installed ubuntu with windows 7 by using wubi tool from windows and by mistake i make the partiton to be used by ubuntu 30gb and i want to make it bigger
[18:29] <ioria> sunsetlover: you need the umount the fs.... so when you put the live disk the fs is not mounted yet
[18:29] <hatake> whjms, lusca or squid
[18:30] <randomx> whjms: i mean only for download
[18:30] <MaxBoivin> Djones, sorry, wrong channel
[18:30] <sunsetlover> ioria: aha ok i think i will try it
[18:30] <dalton2345> sunsetlover, you can do it with gparted from ubuntu
[18:30] <whjms> sunsetlover: download the gparted live cd, burn it, boot into it, and BE CAREFUL
[18:30] <dalton2345> very easy to do
[18:31] <whjms> hatake: i have no idea. i've never run a server, so it's up to you
[18:31] <sunsetlover> whjms: where can i found the live cd for this app
[18:31] <whjms> sunsetlover: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[18:31] <hatake> whjms, ok
[18:31] <dalton2345> you have gparted on ubuntu
[18:31] <dalton2345> log on ubuntu
[18:31] <sunsetlover> whjms: thank you
[18:31] <dalton2345> sunset you can do it from ubuntu
[18:32] <sunsetlover> dalton2345: how ?
[18:32] <darrell> I can't seem to be able to get out of full screen mode....any suggestions?
[18:32] <dalton2345> gparted is in ubuntu already
[18:32] <nevada-smith_> hi darrell  its me
[18:32] <dalton2345> are you on ubuntu now?
[18:32] <whjms> darrell: ESC ?
[18:32] <sunsetlover> yes i am
[18:32] <darrell> Hi N
[18:33] <dalton2345> go to system/administration
[18:33] <dalton2345> you should see gparted
[18:33] <grweq> randomx: you basically need testdisk. sudo apt-get install testdisk
[18:33] <sunsetlover> sorry for disturbing you guys but i'm new in linux
[18:33] <sunsetlover> aha ok
[18:33] <whjms> sunsetlover: nah, that's why this channel exists!
[18:33] <randomx> grweq: done that.what next?
[18:33] <dalton2345> sunsetlover, its fine we were all new :)
[18:34] <sunsetlover> dalton2345: i found gparted and runned it
[18:34] <MadsRC> I have a file 17000 lines long consisting of ip's and ports seperated by :'s. Is there any way I can sort and remove dublicates that match everything before the ":"? - I know uniq can do it, but that checks the whole line and not just everything up to the ":"
[18:34] <sunsetlover> dalton2345: what after ?
[18:35] <dalton2345> cool...now you should be able to resize it
[18:35] <darrell> Also how can I register my email addy and password with Ubuntu, it isn't in their files although I've been on for 3 months
[18:35] <nronksr> sunsetlover: boot a live ISO and use gparted to resize your partitions (can't resize a currently mounted partition).
[18:35] <jrib> MadsRC: uniq can check only specific fields, see its man page.  You are sorting too right?
[18:36] <ioria> nronksr: thank you :-P
[18:36] <llutz> MadsRC: "sort -t \: -u"  ?
[18:36] <darrell> thank you whjms
[18:36] <whjms> darrell: no prob
[18:36] <sunsetlover> dalton2345: it says that i have to unmount the partition. and i cannot unmount it coz it active
[18:36] <DJones> darrell: Do you mean register your nickname for the #ubuntu channel?
[18:36] <MadsRC> jrib, from what I could se in the man page of uniq, you could specify the number of characters to check, but that won't work, as there's an uneven amount of characters before the : (and yes, I sort it first :D)
[18:37] <sunsetlover> i'll be right back after i finish resizing the partition
[18:37] <ioria> sunsetlover: do you remember whan we talk about the live disk ? :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[18:37] <MadsRC> llutz, Thanks, I'll try that :D
[18:37] <jrib> MadsRC: you can also specify fields
[18:38] <sunsetlover> ioria: you are right. sorry for not listening to you
[18:38] <nronksr> ioria: haha, yeah, I was a bit in the backlog. XD
[18:38] <dalton2345> ok sunsetlover you need the live version
[18:38] <ioria> ^_^
[18:38] <MadsRC> jrib, Oh, Let me look at the man again :D
[18:38] <darrell> boy r u fast whjms....yikes!
[18:38] <sunsetlover> brb guys
[18:38] <whjms> darrell: touch typing helps
[18:39] <jrib> MadsRC: you have to use sort anyway though, so you may as well just use the -u switch llutz pointed out
[18:39] <darrell> DJones hi and thx. No my nickname is Darrell what it was asking for last night was my email address and password, It wasn't recognized
[18:39] <thomedy> im trying to set up a "xampp for linux" mail server on my machine so the site im building can take advantage of mail
[18:40] <darrell> This old dog hasn't a clue to what that is...lol
[18:40] <thomedy> but i cant figure out if im installing in ubuntu or in lammpp and i hop yo0u understand wha ti mean by the difference
[18:40] <zykotick9> !xampp > thomedy
[18:40] <thomedy> well bassically lampp
[18:41] <Cida> Hey guys... I have an issue with using WiFi with my laptop. I'm running Xubuntu, and I guess this distro has a lot of issues with that
[18:42] <thomedy> may i please start with this question and if its still inapprorpriate i will try something else... in a lampp install do i do it through lamp or is it
[18:42] <darrell> Esc, only temporarely fixed the problem
[18:42] <thomedy> http://johnny.chadda.se/article/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/
[18:42] <Cida> So, how do I get WiFi up and running on Xubuntu?
[18:42] <nronksr> Anybody work with video?  What's the easiest way to take still pictures from video?   gui recommendation would be wonderful
[18:43] <dalton2345> Cida, you should maybe go to a xubuntu channel
[18:43] <thomedy> cida check out sudo rfkill list that will tel you if your blocked rfsignal... hardblock is the switch/button on your comp... and then you can do iwlist scan to see if you have a network the one your looking for iis wlan0
[18:43] <thomedy> i think im close
[18:43] <MadsRC> jrib, Well "sort -t \: -u inputfile > outputfile" did delete some 7000 lines, but a manual skim reveals several lines where the part before the ":" is the same
[18:44] <jrib> MadsRC: you still want to specify which column to sort with respect with I guess
[18:44] <Physicist> I'm in dual-boot: ubuntu 12.10 and backtrack. Exist a rapdly way to re-install ubuntu and don't "touch" in the backtrack?
[18:45] <t4b> Does anyone know whether "beep" uses the internal speaker on the mainboard of the pc (which I'm pretty sure is missing here) or the normal speakers connected to the pc?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> t4b  to find out, turn off the speakers
[18:45] <whjms> t4b: i believe it uses the internal speaker
[18:46] <whjms> t4b: 'man beep'
[18:46] <Physicist> I'm in dual-boot: ubuntu 12.10 and backtrack. Exist a rapdly way to re-install ubuntu and don't "touch" in the backtrack?
[18:46] <seyfarth> my work uses svn 1.6, but i'm getting 1.7 from the software repos. anyone know if there's another package?
[18:47] <whjms> Physicist: it depends which partition your bootloader is on
[18:47] <dbrom> how do i restrict a user from going above there home directory... I am setting up users in a freeNAs box and the users are able to go to /mnt/Users/name then go up to /mnt/Users - whch I dont want
[18:47] <jrib> MadsRC: in the end you don't care about the ports right?  You just want a list of unique IPs?
[18:48] <MadsRC> jrib, unfortunately I need the ports :P
[18:48] <t4b> MonkeyDust, that would work if it would output anything. :-)
[18:48] <jrib> MadsRC: so then sort does the right thing for you?
[18:48] <ioria> nronksr: maybe... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968353
[18:48] <t4b> whjms, man page said "pc speaker", but I didn't know which one is meant with that
[18:49] <whjms> t4b: it's internal speaker. yeah, it's confusing.
[18:49] <MadsRC> jrib, Well, It sorts the mright, but I don't need 2 entries on the same IP with different ports. I just need the IP's listed once, with atleast one of the ports in the list
[18:49] <t4b> whjms, ok, thanks
[18:49] <Physicist> whjms: If I delete the Ubuntu partition, I'll can install ubuntu again, right?
[18:49] <jrib> MadsRC: oh
[18:49] <randomx> grweq: i forgot to mention one more thing it shows that the space is used so this is a good thing right?
[18:50] <whjms> Physicist: yeah. of course, you have to be careful to select the right partition during installation
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: (I would suggest doing that from Ubuntu live media.)
[18:50] <t4b> So the internal speaker is indeed missing. Any way I can redirect beep's beeps to the external ones or is there an alternate programm which, too, can output beeps of variable length and frequency in a simple way?
[18:51] <MadsRC> jrib, Yeah :P I could just write a quick and dirty python script to do it, but I KNOW there is a way to do it with built-in tools :D
[18:51] <yezariaely> anyone knows how I can start ubuntu keyboard manager from the command line?
[18:52] <jrib> MadsRC: only way I see is for you to use uniq and to use uniq, you can only *skip* fields.  Since the field you care about is first, you could swap them so 1:2 -> 2:1, then use uniq, then swap them back.  That's what comes to mind.  You can ask #bash for better suggestions
[18:52] <SonikkuAmerica> t4b: [ sudo apt-get install beep ]
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> t4b: Only one problem: It assumes you have an internal system bell. (Kind of a recursive problem.)
[18:53] <MadsRC> jrib, So basicly reverse each line, asking uniq to skip first field and then reverse the line again?
[18:53] <ElMa> Hey
[18:53] <ElMa> i need some help :P
[18:53] <jrib> MadsRC: that's what comes to mind, yes.  There's probably a better way
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> ElMa  let's hear it
[18:54] <ElMa> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC
[18:54] <MadsRC> jrib, I'm gonna give it a try :D
[18:54] <t4b> SonikkuAmerica, that's the program I'm using. But I don't have an internal speaker (or it's broken, I don't really care). What I would like to do is output those beeps to another speaker anyway.
[18:54] <ElMa> problem is, can't boot cuz of nomodeset
[18:54] <whjms> t4b: you might be able to do something with 'aplay'. try 'sudo cat /dev/mem | aplay' just to test
[18:54] <ElMa> once i go on nomodeset
[18:54] <ElMa> i get a command line
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: Graphics?
[18:54] <ElMa> and im a noob, so idk how to install or run a desktop enviroment from there
[18:54] <ElMa> ye
[18:55] <ElMa> im on a 2500k
[18:55] <ElMa> no VgA
[18:55] <FloodBot1> ElMa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: HDMI? DVI? (Not sure.)
[18:55] <ElMa> HDMI
[18:56] <t4b> whjms, aplay works as expected (it outputs noise). Hmm, now I need to figure out how to use it. Thanks for the tip. :-)
[18:56] <Physicist> SonikkuAmerica, I got a pendrive! Is it possible?
[18:56] <ElMa> i mean, the Nomodeset works, but it gets me to a command line and idk what to do from there.
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: What do you mean, is it possible?
[18:57] <llutz> MadsRC: awk -F":" '{print $1":"$2}' foo |sort  -n -u
[18:57] <ElMa> anyone?
[18:57] <Physicist> SonikkuAmerica, reinstall ubuntu without change something in backtrack.
[18:58] <whjms> t4b: if you just want to play a specific tone, you can just output '1' a few thousand times to a file and have aplay read it. there's a frequency option for aplay, i think
[18:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: Yep. (Provided you can boot from that pendrive, or a DVD.)
[18:58] <randomx> i accidentally formatted my external hdd using sudo  mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sdc1.how can i restore the files?
[18:58] <MadsRC> llutz, Thanks, that did delete some 15000 lines :P I think it did it
[18:58] <t4b> whjms, yeah. I just tried: (while test 0; do echo -ne \x00; done) | aplay That works nicely.
[18:58] <ZombieReznov> is this irc.ubuntu.com?  it says freenode on my server tab...  is it the same thing?  yes im a noob.
[18:58] <anduiuandu> ciao
[18:58] <DJones> ZombieReznov: Yes
[18:58] <SonikkuAmerica> ZombieReznov, yes, it is.
[18:59] <ElMa> ... =(
[18:59] <anduiuandu> !list
[18:59] <jrib> llutz: isn't the awk statement there a no-op?
[18:59] <whjms> t4b: if you're smart enough, you can mess around with bitshifting and modulo operations to make dubstep music
[18:59] <llutz> jrib: not sure, but with a short testfile it just worked this odd way
[19:00] <jrib> llutz: yeah, I was trying to understand exactly what -n does there :P
[19:00] <ElMa> #ubuntu-beginners
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> ZombieReznov  yes, ubuntu support is situated in freenode
[19:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: Try [ xrandr ] from the console.
[19:00] <Physicist> SonikkuAmerica, whjs: I will do it. Thank you!
[19:00] <ElMa> thx mate, trying it now
[19:00] <whjms> t4b: try this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605469/
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: That output (pastebin it here) might help with the diagnosis.
[19:01] <jrib> llutz: echo '1:7\n1:8\n2:9\n1:5' | sort -n -u   # I guess -n will compare digits until it finds a non-digit?
[19:01] <jrib> llutz: or decimals, which means it will work for ip-addresses.  I think you abused -n here, but I like it :)
[19:02] <howcode> hi ubuntu, i was wondering if you know a command to download a bunch of optional packages easily? like i need telepathy-idle but i was wondering if there is one?
[19:02] <t4b> whjms, not quite what I'm trying to do, but very nice for one line of code. :-)
[19:02] <AAKO> BOA TARDE SOU NOVATO NO UBUNTU GOSTARIA DE RESPOSTAS
[19:02] <AAKO> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR?
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> howcode: Just download (not install)?
[19:03] <uskerine> hi, how could i install a package (openmotif) from multiverse repository? I have a fresh installation of ubuntu 12.04 server and I have checked /etc/apt/source.list to ensure that multiverse repository is uncommented, but I still get "Unable to locate package" while trying apt-get install openmotif. I also did apt-get uupdate.
[19:03] <DJones> !pt | AAKO
[19:03] <howcode> sonikkuamerica: and install... i just want all the packages i might need without manually apt-getting them all.
[19:04] <SonikkuAmerica> howcode: You might try installing Synaptic (the old package manager)
[19:04] <AAKO> OBRIGADO
[19:04] <SonikkuAmerica> howcode: Depending on your flavor it might already be there (Muon on Kubuntu, Synaptic on Lubuntu)
[19:05] <Cub> hey i have a problem
[19:05] <ElMa> SonikkuAmerica; used Randxr "can't get display"
[19:05] <Cub> when im at the logon screen ubuntu 12.10 wont let me use the number pad to enter numbers
[19:05] <Cub> how can i fix this?
[19:05] <ElMa> "can't open display"*
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa, sounds like drivers are missing then.
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Cub: Check your "Num Lock." Is it on?
[19:06] <ElMa> uhm
[19:06] <ElMa> Sonikku, what can i do then?
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: Kind of obvious. :) What's your graphics card again?
[19:06] <ElMa> no vga, im running a intel 2500k
[19:06] <Cub> yep
[19:07] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: That's a processor, not a graphics card.
[19:07] <randimiller> anyone have suggestions on a video player? I have Totem, but it says that the DVD is encrypted
[19:07] <ElMa> lol i know
[19:07] <ZombieReznov> Are there alternatives to Jupiter since it's not going to be updated anymore?
[19:07] <sajan> randimiller: VLC Player is great.
[19:07] <ElMa> but they do work as graphic car
[19:07] <ElMa> d
[19:08] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: Yes. It's called the Intel HD 3000.
[19:08] <randimiller> thanks sajan will give that one a shot
[19:08] <ElMa> oh, i didn't knew that.
[19:08] <ElMa> kinda noobish
[19:08] <SonikkuAmerica> ElMa: Does it use NVIDIA Optimus?
[19:08] <ElMa> i dont think so, let me google
[19:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Everyone: I'll brb, gotta restart
[19:09] <ioria> ElMa: do you have a remote controller for the  HDMI ?
[19:09] <ElMa> nope and nope
[19:09] <ZombieReznov> I think I'm on a 2500k too.
[19:09] <randimiller> ZombieReznov: what is Jupiter?
[19:10] <ZombieReznov> Jupiter is this program/app thing I use for power management on my laptop
[19:10] <An_Ony_Moose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605536/ why is this happening?
[19:10] <randimiller> ahh
[19:10] <ZombieReznov> It's pretty cool (literally) even though it crashes every now and then, but I heard the person running it won't be updating anymore and I'd like to have a good alternative if it isn't compatible some day
[19:11] <nronksr> ioria: I'll take a look, thnx for the link.
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> An_Ony_Moose  try 'jockey', without -gtk
[19:11] <sunsetlover> hey guys, i'm back
[19:11] <An_Ony_Moose> MonkeyDust: command not found
[19:12] <An_Ony_Moose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605570/ also
[19:12] <careless> hey guys is there any way to save my xgamma settings
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> An_Ony_Moose  try 'locate jockey'
[19:13] <careless> for between xserver restarts
[19:13] <ElMa> Ioria: how can i get my drivers?
[19:13] <DJones> An_Ony_Moose: Its a known bug 1082158 been confirmed but looks like nothing has been done to fix yet
[19:13] <An_Ony_Moose> I have jockey-text
[19:13] <An_Ony_Moose> ooh ok, thanks
[19:14] <sunsetlover> ioria: do you know any thing about wireless devices ?
[19:14] <DJones> An_Ony_Moose: http://askubuntu.com/questions/234799/i-installed-jockey-gtk-but-how-do-i-run-it
[19:14] <_aknewhope_> Ubuntu makes me giz
[19:15] <ioria> sunsetlover: we can try.... united we stand, devided we fall
[19:15] <careless> i think i should save it to xorg.conf ?
[19:15] <DJones> An_Ony_Moose: MonkeyDust Seems like jockey-gtk doesn't exist as such anymore, its functionality was merged into software sources
[19:15] <An_Ony_Moose> oooooh it's been replaced! I see. Thanks DJones
[19:15] <_aknewhope_> Ubuntu, my friend
[19:16] <blackthor> MonkeyDust, sounds like a drug i'd like to try :)  what does/did it do ?
[19:16] <careless> but does the xorg.conf file not exist anymore ?
[19:17] <ThinkT510> careless: it doesn't exist by default, but if you make one it will be obeyed
[19:17] <oupateddie> I'm trying to drag and drop files in Nautilus but cannot get it done to copy files to a bookmark. Is there anything I am missing here?
[19:17] <careless> hm i just wanted to add the gamma setting, i dont know exactly how the file is susposed to look like
[19:18] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | careless
[19:19] <Senjai> alright
[19:19] <Senjai> I think i just majorly screwed up my network
[19:19] <Senjai> I'm trying to setup a static IP for my laptop
[19:19] <Senjai> So i can get apache working externally
[19:19] <oupateddie> Are there any permissions to set to be able to drag and drop files in Nautilus from a folder into a bookmark folder on the left side of the screen?
[19:19] <Senjai> But after changing /etc/network/interfaces
[19:20] <Senjai> eth0 dissapeared from ifconfig
[19:20] <sunsetlover> ioria: first thank your help about resizing partition. second i have wireless device installed default by ubuntu , but the problem that it is not working normally, so how can we fix this problem
[19:20] <Senjai> but I still have a connection
[19:20] <Senjai> and the connection manager crashed
[19:20] <ioria> sunsetlover: you loose packets when you ping ?
[19:20] <lbj_90> Everytime my computer comes back from standby and before xscreensaver is displayed I get '[2.351259] kvm: disabled by bios'. After reading around I'm still not sure what kvm is but I'm pretty sure it's not installed so I don't know where to start but it'd be nice to get rid of the delay
[19:21] <Senjai> Any ideas/
[19:22] <mehdi_> does anybody here have encounter graphical problem? speciall with Nvidia?
[19:22] <sunsetlover> i didn't tried to ping on wireless, let me try it, is there any ip must used
[19:22] <ioria> sunsetlover: ping 8.8.8.8
[19:23] <lbj_90> mehdi_ what drivers are you using?
[19:23] <mehdi_> lbj_90, nvidia-current
[19:23] <thomedy> quick question... im doing the tutorial at
[19:23] <thomedy> http://library.linode.com/email/citadel/ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin#sph_prerequisites
[19:24] <thomedy> it has told me to enter my admin user name...
[19:24] <thomedy> i dont remember ever setting that and if i did how do i find it
[19:24] <thomedy> wait im sorry
[19:24] <thomedy> i got it
[19:24] <thomedy> thats dumb
[19:24] <_helios_> lol
[19:24] <lbj_90> I haven't had any running xfce. did you install with ubuntu's additional drivers software?
[19:25] <oupateddie> I'm trying to drag and drop files in Nautilus but cannot get it done to copy files to a bookmark. Is there anything I am missing here?
[19:25] <guest_____> Quick question about encryption.
[19:25] <guest_____> When I installed Ubuntu, I chose to encrypt the disk.  How can I un-encrypt it?
[19:25] <escott_> guest_____, encrypt home or encrypt the disk?
[19:25] <guest_____> I have the password, I just need to unencrypt it.  The disk escott.
[19:26] <escott_> guest_____, i would just reinstall thats easier
[19:26] <_aknewhope_> How come on most tutorials on Apache HTTP  the default document root is Shown in /var/www/?
[19:26] <guest_____> escott, thanx.
[19:26] <ioria> sunsetlover: ping 8.8.8.8
[19:26] <sunsetlover_> ioria: the ping is not loosing any packets.
[19:26] <Senjai> _aknewhope_: its where it installs it
[19:26] <ioria> sunsetlover: so, what's the issue ?
[19:27] <_aknewhope_> I compiled from source without setting prefix and its in /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/
[19:27] <_aknewhope_> On ubuntu
[19:27] <_aknewhope_> I did not install from packages
[19:27] <jrib> _aknewhope_: because most people are sane and use a package manager :)
[19:27] <Senjai> _aknewhope_: Well, if you isntall it with the package, it comes with a preconfigured directory
[19:27] <mehdi_> nobody havig a problem with dash menu?
[19:27] <Senjai> _aknewhope_: Its best to use /var as by FHS its meant to handle changing data.
[19:27] <_aknewhope_> Is var/www/ better?
[19:27] <Senjai> Or where changing data is consistantly found
[19:27] <_aknewhope_> Senjai: Ok
[19:28] <Senjai> _aknewhope_: by FHS, yes
[19:28] <sunsetlover_> my router is beside me and in windows the wireless signal is full but in ubuntu it gives me that the signal is low
[19:28] <Senjai> NOw i just need help with my issue
[19:28] <Senjai> :/
[19:28] <_aknewhope_> FHS is the organization responsible for file structure or directory structure correct?
[19:28] <jrib> _aknewhope_: I strongly suggest you use packages for something like apache.  Otherwise, you're responsible for updating apache  whenever there is a security issue (and knowing about it)
[19:28] <ioria> sunsetlover: but your browser or your downloads are slow ?
[19:29] <llutz>  /srv/www would be more fhs-compliant
[19:29] <_aknewhope_> jrib: Most likely you are right but I am a tinkerer. Lol
[19:29] <sunsetlover_> ioria: yes
[19:29] <ioria> sunsetlover: are you using broadcom drivers ? (lspci)
[19:30] <_aknewhope_> I have two instances on amazon ec2. One using packed and one compiling myself.
[19:30] <sunsetlover_> ioria: browsing and downloading in windows is perfect but in ubuntu is very slow
[19:30] <ioria> sunsetlover: are you using broadcom drivers ? (lspci)
[19:31] <sunsetlover_> ioria: yes it is default with ubuntu
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica2> ((back))
[19:31] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: Are you using wubi or a full install
[19:31] <_aknewhope_> I will most likely use packed because the amount of steps required to setup everything is mind boggling
[19:31] <sunsetlover_> helios: i used wubi
[19:31] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: that's your problem
[19:31] <ioria> sunsetlover: check if you have installed firmware-b43-installer
[19:31] <ZombieReznov> some reason wubi installs are really slow...
[19:31] <ZombieReznov> in my experience anyway
[19:31] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: wubi is not good for the full Ubuntu experience.
[19:32] <ioria> sunsetlover: i din't know you are using wubi : /
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica2> _helios_: I beg to differ!
[19:32] <sunsetlover_> so what i have to do ?
[19:33] <_helios_> SonikkuAmerica2: wubi is slower for the most part, I used it awhile back and it is slower than a real full install.
[19:33] <ioria> sunsetlover: i don't use wubi... sorry
[19:33] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: Reinstall Ubuntu as a full install or a true dual boot not using wubi
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica2> _helios_: I had virtually no problems with my 2007-model machine. 10 minutes and boom! It was in.
[19:34] <atael> b
[19:34] <SonikkuAmerica2> atael: b?
[19:34] <atael> ohh
[19:35] <sunsetlover_> the problem that i installed the full version beside windows 7 and it crashed the bootloader of windows, so i got to install it from wubi after fixing the windows bootloader
[19:35] <Guest96252> sup
[19:35] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: goto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HANcetKsqc and follow the video and you wont have any problems.
[19:35] <atael> this is awesome
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica2> Hey Guest96252, welcome to #ubuntu! State your problem.
[19:35] <ioria> sunsetlover: first install windows, then ubuntu
[19:36] <Guest96252> No problem, just lurking.
[19:36] <atael> last time I used irc was long time ago
[19:36] <atael> wha
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica2> !ot | atael
[19:36] <ioria> sunsetlover: windows doesn't like other os
[19:36] <sunsetlover_> ioria: thats what i did before
[19:36] <_helios_> sunsetlover_: you will find that video very helpful it shows how to partition and everything properly.
[19:36] <hatake> where fdisk ?
[19:37] <ioria> sunsetlover:  ^o^
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica2> hatake: fdisk should be there.
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica2> hatake: You'll probably need to sudo to use it though.
[19:37] <urlwolf> chrome suddenly stopped displaying flash videos
[19:37] <urlwolf> ni
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica2> urlwolf: Confetti?
[19:37] <urlwolf> I see a 'missing plugin' instead
[19:38] <escott_> hatake, you shouldn't be using fdisk anyways. use parted
[19:38] <urlwolf> SonikkuAmerica2: ?
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica2> urlwolf: Reinstall it. (I don't recommend Chrome for Flash currently. Use Firefox or Opera instead.(
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica2> )
[19:38] <hatake> so ok
[19:38] <urlwolf> wow
[19:38] <urlwolf> what happened to chrome?
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica2> urlwolf: The current version of Chrome doesn't handle YouTube very well.
[19:39] <urlwolf> in all platforms? or just linux?
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica2> urlwolf: Just Linux.
[19:39] <seyfarth> urlwolf: turn on html5 - helps http://www.youtube.com/html5
[19:39] <urlwolf> we always get screwed
[19:39] <l057c0d3r> _helios_, i dont see why people say wubi is slower..  i have  a wubi install.. and it runs lightning fast
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica2> seyfarth: Mmm... all that does is turn the "confetti" red.
[19:39] <OerHeks> SonikkuAmerica2, chrome runs youtube flash fine. there must be an other reaseon
[19:39] <escott_> l057c0d3r, yours would be lightning faster if it wasnt on wubi
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica2> OerHeks: In what Linux?
[19:40] <ZombieReznov> i run chrome flash in chrome fine in ubuntu 12.04
[19:40] <oupateddie> I'm trying to drag and drop files in Nautilus but cannot get it done to copy files to a bookmark. Is there anything I am missing here?
[19:40] <_helios_> l057c0d3r: it depends on the system, for most people wubi is slow, It was slow for me as well that's why I got rid of it and did a full install first a dual boot with windows then I got rid of windows completaly
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica2> Could just be Wubi, but I'm not sure.
[19:40] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. i guess i got good luck
[19:40] <_helios_> l057c0d3r: yep
[19:41] <l057c0d3r> was thinking hmm i have wubi install..  play skyrim..  works great ..  watch netflix.. works great
[19:41] <escott_> l057c0d3r, you probably have a lot of ram and arent bothered by slower disk access
[19:41] <ZombieReznov> how would I install sun java?  I need it for Minecraft, openJDK makes so many bugs in it.
[19:41] <SonikkuAmerica2> l057c0d3r, ... try YouTube in Chrome and watch it suck miserably... :(
[19:41] <escott_> ZombieReznov, you have to download it from oracle
[19:41] <l057c0d3r> actually.. i have chromium.. and i don't have a problem with youtube
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica2> Hmm...
[19:42] <escott_> ZombieReznov, or find one of the PPAs that violates the distribution clauses of the license
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica2> Chromium is the same thing, only open-source... maybe I should give it a shot...
[19:42] <l057c0d3r> now every once in a while i get a bit of lag..
[19:42] <linxeh> ZombieReznov: there are PPAs that have a script that will download it for you and install it etc
[19:42] <l057c0d3r> but thats my net access
[19:42] <linxeh> ZombieReznov: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:42] <l057c0d3r> net here cuts out all the time.. need a new provider
[19:43] <linxeh> I've not tried that for a long time though
[19:43] <l057c0d3r> i'm so happy with eric hoover ( i believe thats his name) for his netflix-desktop ppa
[19:44] <l057c0d3r> ran into a few issues.. but found that if the page loads wrong or doesn't look right just right click reload and it works
[19:44] <gino90> ciao
[19:45] <gino90> !lista
[19:46] <ZombieReznov> thanks I'll try it now
[19:47] <sunsetlover_> i will try the wireless with live cd and get back to you to give you the results
[19:49] <ioria> what a wonderful nick
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica2> Gee.
[19:50] <thomedy> im following the ubuntu wiki for mail in citadel at
[19:50] <thomedy> http://library.linode.com/email/citadel/ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin#sph_prerequisites
[19:51] <thomedy> and i have finished it and went to what i described in /etc/mailname
[19:51] <thomedy> but nothing is ther... the wiki says run webcit -d if nothing and i did and still nothing
[19:51] <thomedy> i have it at my.10year.plan
[19:51] <thomedy> is that a possilbe name
[19:52] <thomedy> cna i do that
[19:57] <BigBear> #swig
[19:58] <l057c0d3r> my question here is has anyone ever got gwibber to work
[19:58] <l057c0d3r> i mean it works in a way.. if i click update status.. and type a new status it will update my facebook status
[19:59] <l057c0d3r> but other then that the main app does nothing but say refreshing the whole time.......  never shows anything but a blank white screen\
[20:01] <l057c0d3r> wonder if it has anything to do with 64bit system
[20:01] <starriderx> It appears gwibber once worked, by changes to facebook broke it
[20:02] <Rarrikins_z> How can I get a process to only run when no other processes are using the CPU? nice -n 19 doesn't seem to do much. If I start a niced process and a normal one, both get 50% CPU.
[20:02] <melvin> Hi. after upgrading to 12.10 my wireless network named "300" isn't found anymore by network manager
[20:02] <l057c0d3r> starriderx, i see......
[20:02] <l057c0d3r> i wonder if they will ever fix it...
[20:03] <starriderx> they may fix it, but then facebook will change something else and break it again
[20:04] <l057c0d3r> so its not me then.. it really is broken
[20:04] <l057c0d3r> k
[20:04] <l057c0d3r> i feel better now'
[20:04] <starriderx> There is always some process or thread using the cpu a little bit
[20:06] <starriderx> facebook wants everyone to use their interface, not 3'rd party apps like gwibber
[20:07] <Rarrikins_z> How do I get a program to use only the unused portion of CPU on top or something to that effect, instead of taking 50% when another program is using a lot of CPU?
[20:07] <yezariaely> Rarrikins_z: not exactly what you are looking for, but the "nice" value might be helpful
[20:08] <Rarrikins_z> When I have a process set to nice 19, it still takes up 50% with another competing nice 0 process.
[20:08] <yezariaely> it controls the greedyness of a process wrt. cpu
[20:08] <Richturd> hello
[20:08] <Rarrikins_z> It doesn't seem to do anything.
[20:08] <Richturd> does anyone know where i can find a website where i can share my portfolio, im looking for work
[20:09] <kostkon> !ot | Richturd
[20:09] <Richturd> where is a good chat room for this question then kostkon
[20:10] <kostkon> Richturd, don't have a clue :/
[20:10] <Richturd> well, then you're useless
[20:10] <starriderx> monster.com?
[20:11] <Richturd> that's a good one but i was thinking of other stuff
[20:11] <seyfarth> lol. I think that's the wrong attitude to have if you're looking for work.
[20:11] <Richturd> where i can put pics of my work
[20:11] <yezariaely> Richturd: your "niceness" is very bad...
[20:11] <yezariaely> try xing...
[20:11] <yezariaely> if you are from germany,
[20:11] <Richturd> US
[20:11] <yezariaely> monster if you are from us
[20:11] <yezariaely> well, anyway this is still OT...
[20:12] <escott_> Rarrikins_z, the other process is probably unable to use more CPU
[20:12] <starriderx> Richturd; you might try setting up a blog with your work on wordpress?
[20:12] <Richturd> you cant post pics of your work on monster (at least i dnt think)
[20:12] <Richturd> starriderx thats good
[20:12] <Richturd> whats a good site for that
[20:12] <xangua> !ot | Richturd starriderx
[20:12] <starriderx> wordpress
[20:12] <Richturd> cool
[20:13] <Richturd> is there a room where i can talk about things of this nature without being told to stay on topic
[20:13] <seyfarth> Richturd: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:13] <Richturd> thnx
[20:13] <Richturd> satfart
[20:15] <thomedy> http://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[20:16] <thomedy> im followingthe tutorial here to set up a mail server
[20:16] <thomedy> and the first thing it does is to tel me to chang my host name
[20:16] <thomedy> with hostname newname
[20:16] <thomedy> and then after that go to etc/hostname
[20:16] <thomedy> well i did the first now i cant do the second because it is unable to resolve name
[20:16] <ThinkT510> !hostname | thomedy
[20:17] <thomedy> okay so if i had the new name to /etc/hosts then i cand get into hostname?
[20:17] <thomedy> i think thats what that is saying
[20:18] <escott_> thomedy, i dont see what name resolution has to do with editing a file. why can't you just open the file with a text editor and make your changes
[20:18] <cute_bettong> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/1088775
[20:18] <cute_bettong> comment #16 is the fix for gwibber
[20:19] <thomedy> i dont know it wasn' tletting me
[20:19] <thomedy> but i got into hosts and did that and then it let me into hostname
[20:19] <thomedy> so it seemed to be the answer
[20:19] <thomedy> oim about to test it
[20:20] <traubisoda> how can i restart samba service on 12.04?
[20:22] <ThinkT510> traubisoda: sudo service nameofservice restart
[20:22] <compdoc> sudo service smbd restart
[20:22] <compdoc> sudo service smbd status
[20:23] <traubisoda> ThinkT510 already tried that, it says smdb: unrecognized service :/
[20:23] <starriderx> traubisoda; spelling error, it's smbd, not smdb
[20:23] <ThinkT510> traubisoda: wouldn't it be smbd not smdb?
[20:24] <traubisoda> LOL thank you!!!
[20:24] <ThinkT510> traubisoda: the d at the end of service names often means daemon
[20:24] <traubisoda> yeah i knew that, yet i spelled wrong :D
[20:25] <y2j> i need drivers for amd w8000 firepro
[20:25] <y2j> not sure how to install
[20:25] <meet> I have a free drive of 50 gb. I want to create a 30 gb ext4 partition and remaining 20 gb as fat32. At installation it is asking for a mount point for the fat32 partition .  But I just want a free partition that is visible in Windows directly . What do I select?
[20:25] <l057c0d3r> hmm thanks to cute_bettong i've got gwibber and facebook working again... and after all this time.. the fix was replacing one line in a plugin file with 4 lines....
[20:25] <l057c0d3r> soooo simple
[20:26] <ThinkT510> meet: you don't need to create a mountpoint
[20:26] <cute_bettong> l057c0d3r, im glad that worked for you ^_^
[20:26] <ThinkT510> meet: i mean you don't have to do it at install, just edit fstab later
[20:26] <jonah> hi does anyone know the easiest way to set up a localhost test server on my machine just to test web developments, html and mysql etc. Is this the right guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:27] <escott_> meet, whatever you want the mountpoint to be /media/shared would be a decent mountpoint
[20:27] <otura> is there a way for Evince to not open the sidepanel automatically every time I open a pdf?
[20:27] <meet> Thinkt510 so is it ok if I select fat32 and just ignore the warning will it be visible?
[20:28] <ThinkT510> meet: sure, it will still be visable
[20:29] <ThinkT510> meet: the only mountpoint you need to set at installation is / (which you obviously won't be using fat32 for)
[20:29] <escott_> meet, what warning
[20:29] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[20:29] <verysoftoiletppr> why don't I have /sys/classes/drm?
[20:29] <meet> Escott_ no mount point selected for fat 32
[20:30] <meet> Thanks thinkt510
[20:30] <escott_> meet, why dont you want to set a mountpoint?
[20:31] <meet> For fat32 it is giving me /dos and /windows as the options
[20:31] <jakey1> the startup disk creator isnt working for me
[20:31] <escott_> meet, you should be able to type in your own path
[20:32] <meet> Any ways I ignored the warning and will check after installation
[20:32] <jakey1> Im trying to put a server edition of ubuntu on a usb and its comming back with an error
[20:32] <jakey1> it didnt do that on ealier version of ubuntu
[20:33] <jakey1> does it make a difference if im running it in a virtual machine, cant see why it would
[20:33] <jakey1> anyone?
[20:33] <ThinkT510> jakey1: did you give the vm access to the usb?
[20:34] <Bob123_> jakey1: I think it does, but I am by no means an expert on this,
[20:34] <dierot> Hey hey!! I need help to fade in and fade out video on vlc??
[20:34] <Bob123_> And
[20:34] <ThinkT510> dierot: vlc is a player not a video editor
[20:34] <Queen`Bee> can any one recommend me a point of sale app?
[20:36] <jakey1> ThinkT510, yep usb is connected
[20:37] <jakey1> I get some kind of dbus error
[20:37] <dierot> Hey hey!! I need help to fade in and fade out video playback on vlc??
[20:38] <ThinkT510> jakey1: connected to the host yes, but does the vm see it?
[20:39] <anonymousraptr> reinstalled ubuntu 12.10 after removal of dual boot system. after adding encryption system is significantly slower. does encryption slow down older machines?
[20:39] <jakey1> ThinkT510, ye it does, connecting the usb is not a problem, i can cop to it
[20:39] <thomedy> i get a no protocol specified when i sudo gedit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[20:39] <thomedy> i thought it was host name but i should be good on that
[20:39] <starriderx> anonymousraptr; yes, unless you have a hardware encryption module
[20:40] <Queen`Bee> encryption requires more processing, yes anonymousraptr
[20:40] <escott_> anonymousraptr, does encryption consume CPU and take time? yes. is it enough to be noticable to you? depends on what is noticable to you.
[20:40] <escott_> !gksudo | thomedy never sudo gedit
[20:40] <verysoftoiletppr> is there a way to check if monitor is connected?
[20:40] <stuart_> i use sudo
[20:40] <stuart_> :S
[20:40] <anonymousraptr> starriderx: once encryption of home folder is selected on installation, can i turn it back off?  or would i have to reinstall?
[20:41] <Queen`Bee> gksudo is better. there are times when you will have issues because you sudo'd a graphical interface
[20:41] <escott_> anonymousraptr, if you copy all the files in $HOME except those under ~/.Private to another folder and then make that your home yes
[20:41] <dinosaurvskitten> how can I disable touchpad gestures like the 3-finger "move this window" thing? My touchpad is much too sensitive, and gestures get triggered all the time without me wanting them.
[20:41] <sunsetlover> after testing on live cd i found that the problem with wireless adapter is not from wubi version and this version is very good like the full version
[20:43] <escott_> dinosaurvskitten, its all in the mouse settings
[20:43] <dinosaurvskitten> escott_: where? all I can see under touchpad is relates to scrolling
[20:43] <dinosaurvskitten> s/is//
[20:43] <test____> Hi
[20:44] <anonymousraptr> escott_:  if i choose to copy the home folder and use another directory as my home, doesnt that leave loose ends and make installing new software (that wants to use the home folder by default) difficult?
[20:45] <escott_> dinosaurvskitten, i guess im not familiar with this gesture then. perhaps it can be toggled in the synaptics command line tool although i would think this is a window manager thing
[20:45] <dinosaurvskitten> escott_: it's a unity thing as far as I can tell
[20:45] <dinosaurvskitten> escott_: I guess someone deemed that feature too awesome to be configurable? :p
[20:45] <escott_> !ccsm | dinosaurvskitten see if it is in there
[20:46] <escott_> anonymousraptr, i dont follow.
[20:46] <escott_> !home | anonymousraptr
[20:46] <escott_> anonymousraptr, thats not the correct factoid
[20:46] <escott_> !encryptedhome
[20:46] <escott_> !ecryptfs
[20:46] <ThinkT510> dinosaurvskitten: be careful when editing compiz settings, it can break unity
[20:47] <escott_> !encrypted | anonymousraptr this will presumably include some instructions on moving away from ecryptfs although its just moving files out of ~/.Private
[20:47] <dinosaurvskitten> escott_: doesn't seem to be in there
[20:48] <anonymousraptr> escott_: my system has slowed down in a big way since reinstallation. perhaps something else other than choosing the encryption option during installation is to blame for the slow down. im just not sure what.
[20:48] <dinosaurvskitten> ThinkT510: the current solution seems to be "get rid of unity", so that shouldn't be an issue ;p
[20:49] <ThinkT510> dinosaurvskitten: i've never known any touchpad features to be unity specific
[20:49] <escott_> anonymousraptr, are you asking how to check what is slowing things down or asking how to move away from encrypted home?
[20:49] <dinosaurvskitten> ThinkT510: guess I'll have to rip out gnome too
[20:49] <anonymousraptr> escott_: i get hiccups in the system frequently, mouse freeze, etc. id love to figure out what i changed from last install that is slowing me down.
[20:50] <escott_> anonymousraptr, ok what is the output of free -m?
[20:50] <jakey1> the error is org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[20:51] <jakey1> for startup disk creator
[20:51] <anonymousraptr> escott_: i am not familiar with free-m
[20:52] <escott_> anonymousraptr, open the terminal and type "free -m"
[20:52] <away> anonymousraptr open a terminal and type free -m
[20:52] <ThinkT510> anonymousraptr: its a command: free with the option -m
[20:52] <anonymousraptr> anonymous@anonymous-desktop:~$ sudo free -m
[20:52] <anonymousraptr>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[20:52] <anonymousraptr> Mem:           995        804        190          0         59        320
[20:52] <anonymousraptr> -/+ buffers/cache:        424        570
[20:52] <anonymousraptr> Swap:         1019          0       1019
[20:52] <FloodBot1> anonymousraptr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <escott_> anonymousraptr, you dont have much RAM. you could certainly be swapping
[20:53] <escott_> anonymousraptr, do your slowdowns come after having something like a webbrowser open for a long time?
[20:54] <dinosaurvskitten> anonymousraptr: side note: you don't need to run free as root
[20:54] <bekks> escott_: "swap used: 0"
[20:55] <anonymousraptr> escott_: the hardware is the same as it was before reinstall.  oh.. but wait. i used to be running the 32bit gnome ubuntu, and this time i switched to 64bit. could that be it?
[20:57] <anonymousraptr> is there an irc option i can use in pidgin that will prevent me from constantly seeing all the people entering and leaving the room and just see dialog?
[20:57] <Mitchell92> Hey all... Haven't used Linux in ages... Looking to get back on... interested in Ubuntu over OpenSuSe. Going to install it on 3 computers... What do you all think of the Unity interface?
[20:57] <ThinkT510> Mitchell92: marmite, you can only find out for yourself
[20:57] <Mitchell92> marmite?
[20:57] <escott_> bekks, yes "could" != "are"
[20:58] <ThinkT510> Mitchell92: you either love it or hate it
[20:58] <Guest54522> anybody here know how to parse emails by piping emails from procmail to python?
[20:58] <Mitchell92> Ok.
[20:58] <Mitchell92> One laptop is an AMD A8 Quad Core (64 bit)... 8GB RAM. I'm guessing I should go with the 64 bit edition?
[20:59] <ThinkT510> Mitchell92: definitely
[20:59] <Mitchell92> Primary computers I'm putting it on are an intel mac mini... 1GB RAM, intel core duo processor... other is the laptop...
[20:59] <anonymousraptr> logging stopped. solved that. sorry
[20:59] <Mitchell92> might put it on the netbook... 2GB RAM... VIA C7-M processor
[20:59] <compdoc> Mitchell92, good choice
[20:59] <ThinkT510> !mac | Mitchell92
[21:00] <escott_> anonymousraptr, not likely
[21:00] <Mitchell92> It's a mac mini 1,1, got it right when they came out with intel macs.
[21:01] <anonymousraptr> escott_: you are right. im still seeing the constant "entered the room" "left the room"...
[21:01] <Atael> does anyone know if easystroke works on virtual machines (win7 host)
[21:01] <Atael> I can't record strokes for some reason
[21:01] <vlt> Hello. What pkg do I need to install additionally to ffmpeg to be able to use -vcodec libx264 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:03] <Mitchell92> I'm really unsure if I should go with unity or if I should use KDE... Ubuntu seems nice but I very much like gnome... the desktop looks nice but i dislike the launcher.
[21:03] <gwinbee> Mitchell92: personally, I've been using Cinnamon instead of Unity.
[21:04] <Mitchell92> How do I get Cinnamon on ubuntu?
[21:04] <ThinkT510> Mitchell92: try it for a while is the only way to find out what grates you
[21:04] <ThinkT510> Mitchell92: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:04] <k1l> !notunity | Mitchell92
[21:04] <Mitchell92> ok
[21:05] <gwinbee> Mitchell92: google is your friend on this one
[21:05] <Modernmy1h> Is there a way to have my 12.10 lappy only use the external monitor when attached and switch back when unplugged? Doesn't seem to be anyting like that in the preferences. Dont mind editing configs if that's where I need to do it.
[21:06] <Mitchell92> I have an AMD Radeon HD 6620G... How good is the hardware support??
[21:06] <bobweaver> Modernmy1h, sounds like you just need to make one monitor as default that is under systemsettings-->apperance->display
[21:06] <l057c0d3r> Modernmy1h, i was able to get it working like that...  but i had to install binary drivers...  and i have to switch manually to the hdm1 when its plugged in...  but when i unplug it it goes back to the default on lappy
[21:07] <l057c0d3r> and the binary drivers should work great on your card'
[21:07] <l057c0d3r> i have an amd radeon hd 7***g series
[21:08] <gmachine_24> Hi. What is the command to reboot with a file system check forced on reboot? Thanks.
[21:09] <IveBeenBit> I'm trying to find a desktop mail client that syncs with my outlook.com account. I want to delete or send a file to a new folder and have those changes reflected in the outlook.com web interface. Is there a linux solution? Seems that it may be able to get done with the "Exchange ActiveSync" protocol.
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> gmachine_24: It used to be /forcefsck
[21:09] <bobweaver> Modernmy1h, http://imagebin.org/245396
[21:09] <bobweaver> just turn off the one that you do not want to show up
[21:11] <gmachine_24> SonikkuAmerica: As in $sudo reboot /forcefsck ...... ?
[21:11] <SonikkuAmerica> gmachine_24: Yeah, but I don't think that's it.
[21:12] <l057c0d3r> hmm that sucks.. every now and then.. like ever other day..  if i leave my computer running i have to type killall cairo-dock  then run cairo-dock & otherwise parts of the dock stop responding
[21:12] <l057c0d3r> weird
[21:12] <Modernmy1h> Thanks guys. I'll try that.
[21:13] <Modernmy1h> I did set the extral screen to the only one working ... just hoping it will be automatic and no intervention needed on my part.
[21:13] <_helios_> l057c0d3r: probably a wubi problem lol
[21:13] <boern> hi, can you tell me, how i can disable all my ubuntu system sounds?
[21:13] <bobweaver> Modernmy1h,  it does
[21:13] <bobweaver> lol
[21:13] <gmachine_24> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, I do not believe that's it, either. There is something before /forcefsck (if that is still used) but it's not reboot
[21:14] <l057c0d3r> _helios_, ha ha
[21:14] <gmachine_24> 'reboot'
[21:14] <wh1sk3yj4ck> save
[21:14] <_helios_> l057c0d3r: lol I had to say something sorry
[21:14] <Modernmy1h> AHA! It does switch back and forth painlessly!
[21:15] <gmachine_24> go niners\
[21:15] <bobweaver> :)
[21:15] <bobweaver> that is RIght gmachine_24  !!!!!!!!!!
[21:15] <bobweaver> Go niners !
[21:15] <johnsifu> Go Niners!!!
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | bobweaver, johnsifu
[21:16] <Modernmy1h> Heh, someones a busy dev.
[21:16] <gmachine_24> 0t! | gmachine_24
[21:16] <gmachine_24> ot! | gmachine_24
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | gmachine_24, if I must nab you too (lol)
[21:16] <IveBeenBit> I'm trying to find a desktop mail client that syncs with my outlook.com account. I want to delete or send a file to a new folder and have those changes reflected in the outlook.com web interface. Is there a linux solution? Seems that it may be able to get done with the "Exchange ActiveSync" protocol.
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Note where that ! goes
[21:16] <gmachine_24> My apologies. I will behave.
[21:16] <bobweaver> !ot  un-called for > gmachine_24
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> IveBeenBit, Thunderbird doesn't work for you?
[21:17] <boern> hi, can you tell me, how i can disable all my ubuntu system sounds?
[21:17] <IveBeenBit> SonikkuAmerica, if I delete from Thunderbird, the mail is still there if I log on to the web interface, which is the problem.
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> IveBeenBit: I see. So it forces POP instead of IMAP
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> and then ignores it
[21:19] <_helios_> boern: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106878/how-do-i-disable-all-sounds has the answer for that
[21:19] <michael_> don't know why but I'm loving ubuntu wayyy more then windows 7 or 8 on my new laptop so I'm all in now. But I want to change all this orangeness on 12.10. anyone figured this out yet?
[21:19] <gmachine_24> boern, I believe Preferences>Sound> and then you ignore system sounds.........
[21:20] <boern> thank you very much ;)
[21:20] <gmachine_24> boern, or you can click on the speaker icon in the tray and then pick preferences, etc.
[21:21] <gmachine_24> 'sound preferences' rather
[21:21] <NFBorg3> /NAMES
[21:21] <gmachine_24> boern, anytime. let me know if that does what you want it to
[21:21] <boern> great, i found it :)
[21:21] <boern> you are all great
[21:22] <test____> Sry for my bot [NFBorg3]
[21:22] <NFBorg3>  Whats?
[21:22] <careless> hey guys does 12.10 got any kind of idle timeout..my screen goes dark after a few minutes if inactivity ?
[21:22] <_helios_> careless: yes in system settings
[21:22] <gmachine_24> careless, do you want it to go dark or does it go dark and you don't want it to?
[21:23] <careless> i dont want it
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> careless: Head for System Settings > Brightness and Lock
[21:23] <careless> yeah i turned it off
[21:23] <careless> still does it
[21:23] <michael_> anyone know how to change all the orange colors in ubuntu 12.10 into something else? just main colors for say radiance. I like that theme wayy better then ambiance and just want to change the colors within.
[21:24] <gmachine_24> careless, did you check screensaver prefs?
[21:24] <careless> it's set to 'Never'
[21:24] <careless> where are those ?
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> michael_: You might want to [ sudo apt-get install gconf-editor ]
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Preferences>Screensaver
[21:25] <careless> preferences ? i'm using unity...
[21:25] <gmachine_24> careless, also check power management prefs while there
[21:26] <michael_> SonikkuAmerica, ok I'm doing that now. I think the reason I was confused was because I was tryying to figure it out with dconf-editor lol
[21:26] <careless> i dont have any screensaver button in system settings
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> michael_: The "d" is for Debian, while the "g" is for GNU Net objects.
[21:27] <michael_> SonikkuAmerica, ok I'm in gconf now where do I go and what do I do?
[21:27] <careless> where do i check screensaver preferences in 12.10 unity ? :)
[21:28] <SonikkuAmerica> michael_: I think it's somewhere in apps/metacity
[21:29] <gmachine_24> careless, The screensaver theme and activation time out may be configured by clicking on the power button in the top panel, selecting System Settings and then choosing the Screensaver option in the Control Center to access the Screensaver Preferences dialo
[21:29] <michael_> SonikkuAmerica, I'm at metacity/general and it only has 3 options. button layout theme and titlebar. And theme is set for ambiance with no color preferences
[21:29] <gmachine_24> gue
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> michael_: Unfortunately I haven't used gconf-editor in ages.
[21:30] <Styler2go> Hey Guys. Is there an easy to setup web-based monitoring programm for ubuntu 10.04?
[21:30] <frowni> fresh fish fresh fish fresh fish
[21:30] <michael_> SonikkuAmerica, I just flung my hands in the air out of frusteration lol. Thank you anyway. 12.10 is a pain in this era but all the new features I really do like
[21:31] <bekks> Styler2go: For monitoring what exactly?
[21:31] <Styler2go> processor, ram, hdd and webbased things like traffic if possible
[21:32] <Styler2go> i just found munin. is this good?
[21:32] <careless> gmachine_24: i really dont have a screensaver option in the control center :p
[21:32] <gmachine_24> Styler2go, I'm sorry, you want to monitor network traffic or what?
[21:32] <Styler2go> yes
[21:32] <Styler2go> if possbile
[21:32] <michael_> anyone else who might of figured out how to change the color scheme on ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[21:33] <KI4RO> Styler2go, System Monitor works pretty well
[21:33] <gmachine_24> Styler2go, plus you want to monitor cpu use, ram use, hdd? cpu use and ram use I understand. What about your hard drive do you want to monitor?
[21:33] <Styler2go> free space
[21:34] <gmachine_24> what KI4RO ......... said....... System Monitor I believe does most of that for your computer
[21:34] <Styler2go> its a server
[21:35] <bekks> Styler2go: Then I'd setup something like Nagios.
[21:35] <Styler2go> its for my ubuntu server so it need sto be web based.. or maybe with an android app...
[21:35] <ikonia> nagios is over kill for "simple" monitoring
[21:35] <Styler2go> what about this? http://munin-monitoring.org/
[21:36] <cute_bettong> im having some graphics issues in 12.04 with the intel/ati switchable graphics on ubuntu 12.04 does anyone know a fix to get the ati card to work becasue i've tried tons of howto's and nothing seems to help, would switching to ubuntu 12.10 work?
[21:36] <Styler2go> i need something maybe easy to install cause i am not that good with ubuntu :-/
[21:36] <careless> gmachine_24: think i got it now. thank you very much
[21:36] <gmachine_24> careless, ok. sorry if I was more confusing than helpful
[21:36] <KI4RO> Styler2go, Have a look:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9107/what-tools-do-you-use-to-monitor-a-web-server
[21:37] <StevenR> Styler2go: can you define what you mean by "monitoring" ... what do you actually want the app to do with the data it collects?
[21:37] <careless> not a problem, you helped a lot, tnx very much again!
[21:37] <Styler2go> its like the app for plesk: https://lh6.ggpht.com/qv_YMMFm9sHHQIiRqv9R4Wrevdel8T-npv9otjbM7TFHghK0W9v1AQ2ZIw1slaVX8Kw
[21:37] <frowni> ubuntu 12.10 seems amazing by the way. How can i go back to Gnome 2 look?
[21:38] <k1l> !notunity | frowni
[21:38] <frowni> !classic\
[21:38] <frowni> !classic
[21:40] <Styler2go> any idea for my case?
[21:41] <KI4RO> Styler2go, did you see the web page I sent you?  Did that help any?
[21:42] <bekks> Styler2go: Nagios.
[21:42] <xangua> Styler2go: that looks like conky
[21:42] <Styler2go> i think i will try Munin
[21:42] <Styler2go> looks easy to install
[21:43] <Styler2go> Nagios looks veeery difficult
[21:45] <anyname> hey guys, which one would be best on a low-powered netbook 1gb ram, Ubuntu or Kubuntu ? I think KDE offers better customisation to get rid of bload features but I may be wrong ?
[21:46] <anyname> please only between the two, no xu of lubuntu
[21:46] <Mitchell92> trying to put ubuntu on my mac mini 1,1... it keeps staying stuck at a black screen with a blanking cursor.
[21:46] <Aksel> Are there any downsides to enabling preload and prelink?
[21:46] <SonikkuAmerica> anyname: That's a hard shot, given both use a boatload of resources to work.
[21:49] <gmachine_24> Hi - I have a folder with lots of video and audio files - I want to delete them but also have them overwritten .... can I use "shred" to kill an entire folder and all its contents? is there a way to set it up recursively?
[21:49] <phoenixsampras> its horrible how UNITY is so slow
[21:49] <cute_bettong> im currently using ubuntu 12.04 32bit and im having some issues with switchable graphics, i was wondering if ubuntu 12.10 64 bit would be better?
[21:49] <Styler2go> munin is very difficult too :(
[21:50] <Mitchell92> can someone help me with mactel support?
[21:50] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Can your machine support 64-bit computing?
[21:51] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, yes im running an 64 bit i7 in 32bit mode with PAE
[21:51] <Meris> Is there a way to normalise the sounds speed while running a Windows program utilizing sound in Wine? As correctly pointed out on the Wine Buglists, this is not caused by a Wine Issue, but rather by a kernel-based issue centered around alsa and Intel-HDA.
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Wow. You shouldn't be running 32-bit Ubuntu on such stuff. Although I'm not sure if that'll help with a graphics problem.
[21:53] <bravis> c
[21:54] <phoenixsampras> I have unity in 64 bits, core i7, and it Sucks
[21:54] <Mitchell92> I need some assistance on installing the new ubuntu release on a mac mini 1,1
[21:54] <cute_bettong> SonikkuAmerica, ok ill try both 12.04 64 and 12.10 64 and see what happens
[21:54] <Styler2go> Would someone have time to help me with munin? if i want to navigate to /var/www/munin i see the files but on my webserver i cant see them...
[21:54] <Meris> Mitchell92, some more eleborate Hardware specs. would be nice.
[21:54] <Styler2go> oh.. now i get the error "Forbidden"
[21:55] <Mitchell92> Meris, intel mac mini 1,1.. intel core duo, 1.66ghz dual core... 1GB RAM
[21:56] <Meris> Mitchell92, allright, did you download the Mac-friendly version of the distribution CD?
[21:56] <Mitchell92> I wasn't aware there was one.
[21:57] <Styler2go> how can i allow any ip if the ip have to be set in regex? currently there is: allow ^127\.0\.0\.1$   .. will i need to set it to 0.0.0.0 or *.*.*.* or something else?
[21:57] <Mitchell92> Meris where can I obtain the CD image?
[21:57] <Meris> Mitchell92, Apple has a retarded implementation of an optical driver that makes it unable to understand a more complex CD-structure.
[21:58] <gmachine_24> How do I securely overwrite an entire folder and all its contents using a CLI such as 'shred' or 'secure-delete'?
[21:58] <Meris> Mitchell92, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[21:58] <Mitchell92> thanks.
[21:59] <Meris> Mitchell92, which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install? LTS 12.04, or 12.10?
[21:59] <Mitchell92> the new one, 12.10
[22:00] <OerHeks> Styler2go, 3 urls, the server wiki, and a nice tutorial >> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/munin.html  >> http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/3/12/installing-munin-on-ubuntu >> http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/3/12/munin-configuration-and-testing-on-ubuntu
[22:01] <sbaugh> say i accidentally rm -rf'd /dev and /sys (but nothing else)
[22:01] <sbaugh> those will be restored on restart, right?
[22:03] <sbaugh> this channel is surprisingly quiet for one with 1744 people...
[22:04] <Styler2go> ehrm guys... how can i completly uninstall something?
[22:05] <OerHeks> sbaugh, most of us can't remember what will happen after rm -rf /dev and /sys
[22:05] <OerHeks> !purge
[22:05] <jonah> hi can anyone please help me out? I can't get my site working on localhost / my desktop machine. lamp is working but mysql won't connect, if anyone can please help. I'm using opencart, i've installed myphpadmin and i've imported the database from the website and set up localhost and changed the config file on opencart to use localhost but it's not displaying the website...
[22:06] <cute_bettong> does ubuntu 12.10 need to be burnt to a dvd or a cd?
[22:06] <Styler2go> i am getting the error message "not empty" directory for this pruge command
[22:07] <OerHeks> cute_bettong, dvd or 1 gb usb
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> cute_bettong: Not necessarily. Got a USB?
[22:07] <Mitchell92> The alternative installer isn't recognizing my logitech wireless usb keyboard / mouse.
[22:11] <bilel> hi, I'm on ubuntu 10.04, The default php available version is php 5.3.2, I had followed a tutorial to get the php 5.3.5 version (by adding a custom apt source repository), but now I need to upgrade to >+5.3.8 minimum, but I can't find any repository for this, do you know any?
[22:11] <Mitchell92> Meris- Having a problem. I'm able to enter the installer, but once I get to select a language it's as if it isn't recognizing my keyboard.
[22:11] <Styler2go> so nobody gives me help excpet these links?
[22:12] <ikonia> Styler2go: reading those links should give you help
[22:12] <Styler2go> yes but i am still getting "403 forbidden"
[22:13] <ikonia> Styler2go: have you read the links ?
[22:13] <Styler2go> yes
[22:13] <Styler2go> but nothing about the 403 forbidden
[22:13] <sbaugh> okay, no worries guys! everything went fine after i reboERROR: KERNEL NOT FOUND
[22:14] <Basmaster> Stupid question everyone, I have an install of Ubuntu Server and KVM with eth0 through 8  but can't seem to get the devices to come up on boot, if i ifconfig ethX up  they come up no problem but won't on boot
[22:17] <Basmaster> any ideas how to get the devices to all come up on boot (not all plugged in but would still like them to come up)
[22:18] <bekks> Basmaster: Devices not plugged in cant come up on boot.
[22:18] <OerHeks> Basmaster, add them to your Fstab ?
[22:18] <warz> hi all. whats the install iso called, where it downloads things off the internet during install? so the iso is only like 50 MB, or something.
[22:18] <Mitchell92> I need some assistance. Trying the alternative installer on my intel mac... but I have a wireless logitech keyboard, it isn't working when i get to the language selection.
[22:19] <gp> I have setup dnsmasq for ProxyDHCP like here so that I can add PXE information for a thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP.  However, the server now uses 127.0.0.1 as the nameserver instead of the nameservers assigned by the router
[22:19] <gp> How can I fix this?
[22:20] <zykotick9> !mini > warz
[22:21] <Basmaster> ok if i can't make them come up unplugged how can i make them come up plugged in without dhcp or static as they are just for the VM's
[22:24] <Basmaster> well think i got it, just added lines up ifconfig eth0 up in my /etc/network/interfaces   seems to have brought them all up no problem.
[22:28] <Styler2go> how much is 8gb traffic in 4 days? is this much?
[22:29] <Basmaster> 8gb in 4 days no
[22:30] <Styler2go> thats good :) thank you
[22:31] <zacts> how can I disable suspend when closing the lid in lightdm or gdm?
[22:32] <zacts> I've disabled it for users, but it still sleeps when I close the lid in the login screen
[22:34] <y2j> is there any outsourcing channel
[22:37] <LostyJai> hey guys
[22:37] <LostyJai> is it recommended to turn multsect on? will it improve disk performance?
[22:38] <test____> Hi!
[22:38] <ericus> hi test____
[22:43] <kolibri_user> hello guys
[22:46] <LostyJai> ic
[22:46] <LostyJai> no one can answer my question?
[22:46] <nownot> is there a way to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 via cli?
[22:49] <mhall119> nownot: do-release-upgrade
[22:53] <sudo0m> hey guys... need a little help i want to go back to original install state. how do i do this? is there a terminal command to type? if possible i want to retain any installs and files ive downloaded
[22:53] <sudo0m> can some one please message me.
[22:53] <sudo0m> thanks
[22:57] <anonymousraptr> im having trouble with the internet speed of my ubuntu machine. its on the same network as a pc and osx machine but getting only half the dl speed.
[22:58] <ericus> anonymousraptr, what nic?
[22:58] <ericus> and drivers?
[23:00] <galexs> ciao
[23:00] <TobiasTheCommie> i'm having an issue that suddenly appeared on my ubuntu 12.10, my wifi can't see my home AP. neither the network manager nor an iwlist scan finds my home network. Though they find multiple(12) other networks.
[23:00] <anonymousraptr> ericus: is there a command line to find my nic?
[23:00] <TobiasTheCommie> other devices can see and connect to the wifi fine.
[23:00] <galexs> !list
[23:00] <TobiasTheCommie> it is NOT an issue with an illegal channel due to region. and the computer could connect fine a few days ago.
[23:00] <ericus> anonymousraptr, try "lspci"
[23:00] <TobiasTheCommie> didn't find much with google
[23:01] <anonymousraptr> ericus: Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[23:02] <test____> ericde Hi!
[23:02] <ericde>  Whats?
[23:02] <ericus> so wifi anonymousraptr
[23:03] <ericus> are you running wifi from the other computers as well?
[23:04] <ericus> anonymousraptr, maybe this might be helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12166616&postcount=12
[23:04] <ericus> anonymousraptr, seems to be a problem with that nic
[23:06] <anonymousraptr> ericus: thanks, no worries. now that i realize its a G card and the other two are 802.11N cards, getting half the download speed is about correct
[23:06] <jonah> hi can anyone please help me getting php working on my lamp localhost?
[23:08] <ericus> anonymousraptr, hehe yes, if you have a 801.11N-network and are running a 801.11G card, that makes perfect sense ;)
[23:16] <rictec> hi
[23:16] <Rakyth> Hey, I'm having a problem with the xrandr command. Anyone familiar with it?
[23:16] <tomreyn> jonah: you may want to turn to #ubuntu-server or #php for this.
[23:16] <rictec> can some look at this and tell me what the heck is going on
[23:16] <rictec> http://pastebin.com/3rqUba6e
[23:16] <tomreyn> Rakyth: a bit, what'S the problem?
[23:20] <Katrin> hello xD?
[23:20] <tomreyn> rictec: may be a kernel bug. which ubuntu version?
[23:20] <tomreyn> is this a VM?
[23:20] <Katrin> good night =D
[23:20] <rictec> tomreyn: 12.04.01
[23:20] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: when I xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1600x1000 --auto and swap to the external monitor, it still uses the old mode
[23:20] <rictec> tomreyn: a 64 bit system
[23:20] <Rakyth_> er, sorry I was disconnected
[23:20] <tomreyn> rictec: do you do virtualization there?
[23:21] <rictec> yes i have virtual box in this machine
[23:21] <rictec> tomreyn: usb simple stop working
[23:22] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: sorry i have no experience with >1 monitor setups. the mode seems uncommon to me, is this actually one which is supported?
[23:22] <Rakyth_> yeah it's supported on the monitor and by the HDMI output
[23:22] <Rakyth_> I can't seem to remove the old mode, either
[23:22] <Rakyth_> delmode/rmmode don't work
[23:23] <tomreyn> rictec: so this is the host system and you run iother systems below it using virtualbix, right?
[23:23] <rictec> tomreyn: kernel as bean updated
[23:24] <tomreyn> rictec: were you running virtualbox at the time it happened?
[23:24] <rictec> yes host
[23:24] <rictec> no i just try to debug using android and get this
[23:25] <Rakyth_> tom, are you out of ideas?
[23:25] <tomreyn> rictec: debug using android? are you saying you run android in a VM for debugging purposes?
[23:26] <tomreyn> rictec: also, are there any databases running or anything else causing heavy disk I/O on your main ubuntu system?
[23:26] <rictec> tomreyn: no i connect android devices and debug them using adb
[23:26] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: when you run xrandr without arguments, is this mode listed?
[23:26] <rictec> i disconected my usb 3.0 storage device but gotthe same problem
[23:27] <Rakyth_> which one?
[23:27] <rictec> i beleave usb_modeswith is not working either
[23:28] <vint59> hi all!
[23:28] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: 1600x1000
[23:28] <rictec> tomreyn:  cat /etc/issue shows thatUbuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[23:28] <vint59> who is not sleep ?
[23:29] <Rakyth_> no, just 1600x1000_60.00, and that's only because I added it: I know the HDMI port and the monitor support it
[23:29] <tomreyn> rictec: what does "uname -a" say?
[23:29] <rictec> tomreyn: my kernel is: Linux ricubuntu64 3.2.0-37-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 15:28:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:29] <tomreyn> ok
[23:30] <rictec> sudo service udev restart has no efect
[23:30] <paul--> I have the following physical setup http://www.flickr.com/photos/86435426@N05/8439999171/ , and I'd appreciate if someone here has used snapraid before on ubuntu? Very keen on achieving power saving / caching capabilities which is outlined here: http://snapraid.sourceforge.net/compare.html (snap raid). However, I want to run VM's ontop of the server install,
[23:30] <paul--> what is the recommended hypervisor? for ubuntu.
[23:30] <FloodBot1> paul--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <Rakyth_> I used gtf to get the modeline, I just can't get the old mode out and the new mode to display
[23:31] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: okay, i'm not sure whether this will work, since the video card also needs to support it. but i'm really not into multi-monitor setups, so i suggest you just repeat your question and get help from someone else here, or ask on some forums
[23:31] <Rakyth_> I'm also using the stable release of Chromium-OS but very few people in those groups have used xrandr or know its ins and outs, so that's why I went here
[23:32] <Rakyth_> I know the video card supports it because other people with the same hardware have hooked up much larger monitors resolution wise
[23:33] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: it's not about whether the size is too large, more about whether the exact dimensions are supported.
[23:34] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: from which end, the video card or the monitor?
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> can a fella get a bit of help with ruby? I have already been to #ruby, but am looking for some specific help with precise x64
[23:34] <tomreyn> rictec: you run the latest kernel for this ubuntu version, so that's not an issue. i'm not sure where to continue. can you check whether there are other issues logged before those lines you pasted. in the same or different logs found in /var/log/ ?
[23:35] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: both, it needs to match
[23:35] <rictec> tomreyn: no i pasted just when it started no error befoure that
[23:36] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: how would I know for sure?
[23:36] <tomreyn> rictec: were you saying that it happened right when you connected something to your usb3 port?
[23:36] <elmage> hey
[23:36] <rictec> tomreyn: ya the machine is on hold
[23:36] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: supported modes are printed when you run xrandr without arguments
[23:36] <rictec> only solution temporary is reboot
[23:37] <elmage> Can someone help me? i have trouble installing Ubuntu. I think it's a vga drivers problem.
[23:37] <tomreyn> rictec: "on hold" as in it freezes when you connect a device on the usb 3?
[23:37] <rictec> tomreyn: this must have changed task scsi_eh_9:6119
[23:37] <rictec> tomreyn: on old to get info cos i have to reboot
[23:37] <daftykins> elmage: can you explain to the channel what happens so they can help you?
[23:38] <rictec> mouse is working any usb storage i connect is ignored
[23:38] <tomreyn> ntzrmtthihu777: welcome, and please ask your question, so people can respond if they can answer it.
[23:38] <elmage> yeah, i joined earlier and had some help
[23:38] <rictec> or any other usb
[23:38] <tomreyn> elmage: welcome, and please ask your question, so people can respond if they can answer it.
[23:39] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: when I xrandr without any arguments I get 640x480 and my mode
[23:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> I have located a ruby program I should like to use, but am having hell getting it to work
[23:40] <Primary> Всем привет)
[23:40] <elmage> this is what happens: Im trying to install Ubuntu from a USB stick. First, the screen was going black after boot. This was fixed via NOMODESET. Now, when i enable NOMODESET and go to "INSTALL" in the menu, i get a Commands line, and idk what to do from there
[23:40] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: you open a terminal window, typr "xrandr" (without quotes) and it only outputs a single line, 640x480?
[23:40] <tomreyn> !ru | Primary
[23:41] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606418/
[23:41] <elmage> @tomreyn this is what happens: Im trying to install Ubuntu from a USB stick. First, the screen was going black after boot. This was fixed via NOMODESET. Now, when i enable NOMODESET and go to "INSTALL" in the menu, i get a Commands line, and idk what to do from there
[23:41] <adamastor> hello =) I can talk BLP .. Internet Eletric in US
[23:43] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: are you using a custom xorg.conf file? proprietary video drivers?
[23:44] <tomreyn> i've never seen a single modeline listed unless when you have a custom xorg.conf
[23:45] <elmage> anyone?
[23:46] <rictec> windows hide 9
[23:46] <elmage> i was told it was a video drivers problem, but i dont know how to solve that.
[23:46] <Strav`> Hi. Anyone else got their flash screwed up with the last google chrome package update
[23:46] <Strav`> ?
[23:47] <OerHeks> Strav`, Version 24.0.1312.56 Ubuntu 12.10 (24.0.1312.56-0ubuntu0.12.10.3) works great here
[23:48] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: I have no clue how chromeos handles the xorg.conf or the videoo driver, so the answer is probably yes to both
[23:48] <Strav`> OerHeks: I'm on 24.0.1312.57
[23:48] <OerHeks> great ..
[23:49] <rictec> tomreyn: so you think is a kernel bug?
[23:49] <tomreyn> elmage: your best bet is probably to use the alternative installer, if that's available for the version of ubuntu you are trying to install
[23:49] <elmage> =(
[23:50] <elmage> alternative installer?
[23:50] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: chromeos? are you trying to get help with chromeos in #ubuntu?
[23:50] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: what do you think I should research from here?
[23:50] <OerHeks> Strav`, you can file a bugreport, or use the report button in chrome
[23:50] <Rakyth_> tomreyn: I'm trying to get help with xrandr in #ubuntu
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> I suppose not, then
[23:50] <tomreyn> elmage: which ubuntu version are you trying to install?
[23:51] <elmage> tomreyn: 12.10
[23:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> :S 10 gave me such hell I switched back to .04 untill the new lts comes out
[23:51] <Strav`> OerHeks: I don't fill bug reports without investigating if the problem might only on my side.
[23:52] <tomreyn> elmage: the root problem you're having is that your video card is not well supported by linux, probably because the company whose chip is on the video card, and the company which made the video card, didn't care enough about linux users getting proper support.
[23:54] <rictec> tomreyn: this is probably a kernel bug
[23:58] <tomreyn> rictec: it's well possible. you can try searching launchpad for it
[23:59] <Sosumi> heya
[23:59] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: you said this, which makes me think you are using chromeos <Rakyth_> tomreyn: I have no clue how chromeos handles the xorg.conf or the videoo driver, so the answer is probably yes to both
[23:59] <tomreyn> Rakyth_: i have yet to get your answer on whether or not you do.
[23:59] <Sosumi> remember earlier this morning when I mentioned about matlab crashing/restarting my system?
[23:59] <rictec> tomreyn: thanks doing that and reporting it if not reported yet