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phoenix_firebrdgood morning everyone06:46
phoenix_firebrdyofel: which version of tomahawk have to be packaged and where can i get the tars07:57
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ^08:04
shadeslayeralready done08:05
shadeslayerapachelogger packaged it a week or two ago08:05
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thats for quantal08:05
* shadeslayer rages at live-build08:05
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: oh?08:05
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: yofel asked me to package day before yesterday08:06
shadeslayerahh08:07
shadeslayernot quite08:07
shadeslayerI believe he was talking about getting tomahawk into the archives08:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so now what should i do?08:07
shadeslayerother stuff? :P08:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: no wait08:07
shadeslayerwrite some KDE code?08:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: he said there are some stuff that are need to be done with tomahawk08:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: like the copyright file is not done yet08:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: tell me where can i get the tars for raring08:09
shadeslayerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu08:09
shadeslayerthe latest packaging is there08:09
shadeslayerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu/view/head:/debian/copyright08:09
shadeslayerhttp://download.tomahawk-player.org/tomahawk-0.6.0.tar.bz208:11
shadeslayertarball08:11
phoenix_firebrdok08:11
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: quoting what yofel said "feature freeze, packaging is in ppa:tomahawk/ppa, just needs cleanup"08:14
shadeslayerright08:15
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: "after that get it into the archiv"08:15
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: "ah, and I think the copyright files are missing. That's the hardest part"08:15
shadeslayerthe packaging I pointed you to is for raring08:15
shadeslayerjust download the copyright file and run license-check over the tomahawk tarball08:15
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so its needs to be packaged for right?08:16
shadeslayernot packaging, just grunt work :P08:16
shadeslayerit's already packaged08:16
shadeslayerjust the copyright file needs to be fixed08:16
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: for raring?08:16
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: yes08:16
shadeslayerit's not in the archive though08:16
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: you mean here ~blue-shell?08:17
shadeslayeryes08:17
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so whats after license-check?08:17
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is it complete?08:17
shadeslayerhuh?08:17
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is the copyright file have to be updated?08:18
shadeslayerrun license-check > populate debian/copyright with the right copyrights > poke yofel with the right copyright file08:18
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok08:18
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: did you check the ktp-desktop-applets in my branch?08:19
shadeslayerI'll look at it in the evening08:19
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok08:19
shadeslayerfixing live-build right now08:19
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok see you later08:19
shadeslayercya08:19
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* apachelogger stumbles in10:13
apacheloggeroy, I think I am coming down with a cold10:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: btw, as I mentioned already, I think the volume thing is a bug caused by gstreamer10:20
apacheloggerwhich would explain why I don't see the prob10:20
shadeslayerI don't think so10:20
oyapachelogger, I am sorry to read that, all the best to you10:20
shadeslayerIMHO it's a bug in PA support stuff, because it doesn't find the index for the stream id10:21
shadeslayerbut, I can mute/unmute the same video with dragon10:21
apacheloggerohlol10:22
apacheloggeroy: curious nick choice :)10:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: unless bangarang and dragon have the same codez it does not matter10:24
shadeslayerheh :)10:24
apacheloggerlibphonon does lazy init all over the place, so timing/order could be what causes the issue10:24
shadeslayerhm10:24
shadeslayerso why do you think it's a bug in gst10:24
shadeslayerand not in PA10:24
shadeslayererm, PA support I mean10:24
oyapachelogger, my nick comes from a project affiliation10:25
* valorie sends apachelogger some hot lemonade10:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: 90% of the bugs are bugs in gst10:25
shadeslayerthen this is the case of the 10%10:25
apacheloggervalorie: cheers10:25
apacheloggeroy: k10:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: you have no proof of that :P10:26
shadeslayerno I do not :P10:26
apacheloggereasy though10:26
valoriestay well!10:26
shadeslayerbut I can say this though, gst stuff is never called10:26
* valorie goes to bed10:26
shadeslayervalorie: night :)10:26
apacheloggervalorie: nighty10:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: add debug output to all functions doing stuff with streams10:26
valorie$timeofday-greeting10:27
valorie:-)10:27
shadeslayer@_@10:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you have a patch for that :P10:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw you still haven't replied to the s-p-k thread10:32
apacheloggerah yes10:38
apacheloggerwell10:38
apacheloggerI still do not know what the plan for apturl is10:38
apacheloggerno way10:38
apacheloggerwhat10:38
shadeslayerso reply that you don't know what the plan for apturl is10:38
apacheloggerah yes10:39
apacheloggerits the atpurl thread :P10:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what is the plan for apturl10:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: wasn't it supposed to go away in favor of muon/ubuntustuff?10:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: alternatively JontheEchidna could ahve done that :P10:39
shadeslayerwell ... just saying, no replies on that thread10:40
shadeslayerdoesn't look good ;)10:40
apacheloggeryeah10:40
apacheloggerwe were busy bikeshedding10:40
shadeslayerhehe10:40
shadeslayerneed coffee10:41
BluesKajHi all11:59
Peace-mm problem with plasmaengineexplorer 12:16
Peace-it says 12:16
Peace-The program 'plasmaengineexplorer' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:12:17
Peace-sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin12:17
Peace-ok done but :D there is not 12:17
shadeslayer!find plasmaengineexplorer12:23
shadeslayer!find plasmaengineexplorer raring12:23
ubottuFile plasmaengineexplorer found in kde-l10n-ar, kde-l10n-bg, kde-l10n-bs, kde-l10n-ca, kde-l10n-ca-valencia, kde-l10n-cs, kde-l10n-da, kde-l10n-de, kde-l10n-el, kde-l10n-engb (and 47 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=plasmaengineexplorer&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any12:23
ubottuFile plasmaengineexplorer found in kde-l10n-ca, kde-l10n-de, kde-l10n-el, kde-l10n-et, kde-l10n-fr, kde-l10n-id, kde-l10n-it, kde-l10n-nl, kde-l10n-pl, kde-l10n-pt (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=plasmaengineexplorer&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any12:23
shadeslayerI think this is one of those things that is not being built at the moment or was ripped out and put into plasmate12:25
shadeslayerwhich does not have a release yet12:25
apacheloggerPeace-: moved to plasmate which is not part of workspace12:26
apacheloggerin fact not even part of the software collection...12:26
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shadeslayeranyone on Quantal?12:54
shadeslayercan you check if plasma-widget-veromix works12:56
soeeshadeslayer, it is nt a port of standard widgets ?13:13
soee*not, part13:13
shadeslayernope13:14
BluesKajveromix is available in the "get new widgets/download new plasma widgets " 13:19
BluesKajin 13.0413:20
shadeslayerBluesKaj: well .. it doesn't work13:21
shadeslayerprobably python2 vs python3 issue13:21
BluesKajshadeslayer, ok , i never bothered trying it 13:22
shadeslayerapachelogger says it's shit :p13:22
apacheloggerand Sho likes the way the layout is broken13:23
apacheloggerwe should make it default really13:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: I think I fixed tomahawk now13:24
shadeslayerer, no?13:25
apacheloggeryes!13:25
shadeslayergot a build message saying it failed?13:25
BluesKajwell, it's redundant , pavucontrol does a good job if needed , but it won't replace kmix on my panel, which i use as a mute/unbmute/vol indicator 13:25
shadeslayernot 10 minutes ago13:25
apacheloggerthat was from the previous thing13:25
shadeslayeroh13:25
shadeslayerokay13:25
shadeslayerawesome?13:25
apacheloggerafter which I noticed that what I thought was a checkout was in fact a clone13:25
apacheloggerit is a good thing bzr can do both13:25
apacheloggerit makes screwing up so much easier for me13:26
apacheloggerBluesKaj: it's way too fat for anything anyway13:26
apacheloggera thing sitting there doing nothing most of the time should not consume that much memory really13:26
BluesKajI used to need pavucontrol , but recently 12.10 and 13.04 , the phonon harware options/choices do the job 13:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: phonon-backend-gstreamer_4.7.0really4.6.2.orig.tar.xz we shoudl release a pgst 4.7 to fix that ^^13:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: get tdfischer to merge gst1.0 stuff13:29
shadeslayer*review and merge13:30
apacheloggery u no do it?13:30
shadeslayerbecause I want him to review stuff13:30
apacheloggermonths will pass until trever finds time to do it13:30
shadeslayertrue ... it did take him 2 weeks just to make a chroot with gst1.013:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw if we ship pgst 4.7 for Kubuntu, we'll have to rebuild everything against 1.013:31
shadeslayernot to mention13:31
shadeslayerktp-call-ui13:31
shadeslayerwhich will still depend on gst 0.1013:31
apacheloggerso13:31
shadeslayerthough that's not shipped on the CD so meh13:32
apacheloggerwhy do you want to have gst1 in the feature scope for 4.7?13:32
shadeslayerbecause it sounds like a good target?13:32
apacheloggerwhat I would do is ... branch 4.7 and relase that, then merge gst1 into master to become 4.813:32
shadeslayerhmm13:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: it also soudns like a good way to delay a possible release for no good reason :P13:33
shadeslayerhehe13:33
shadeslayerokay, how about I have a look at branching 4.7 this weekend13:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: it seems there is only one feature in 4.7 though ^^13:35
shadeslayerlol13:35
shadeslayersnapshot?13:35
apacheloggerplus a whole lot of random minor improvements13:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh, snapshot too... so there are 2 features :D13:35
shadeslayer:D13:35
apacheloggerchannel selection + snapshot13:35
shadeslayerhuzzah13:35
apacheloggerwell13:35
apacheloggerwe had no API additions in a while so I suppose there is a point where almost no features can get in13:36
shadeslayerheh13:36
apacheloggerthat being said the biggest feature that is in master is qml/graphicsobject support which would probably have to be stripped from a possible release as there is no phonon4.713:36
shadeslayerin pgst?13:36
apacheloggeryes13:36
apacheloggeroh and that was I believe only quickly hacked together in randa13:37
apacheloggerso not very releasable I guess13:37
shadeslayerheh13:37
shadeslayerhmm13:37
shadeslayerso, branch 4.7, revert QML bits13:37
shadeslayerrelease?13:37
shadeslayermaybe also fix that bangarang issue?13:38
Peace--shadeslayer: no it doesn't work 13:38
apacheloggerdon't revert them, just turn them off13:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah13:38
shadeslayerhm13:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: I mean13:38
Peace--shadeslayer: every plasma widget that works with python has issue on 13.0413:38
shadeslayerPeace--: fun13:38
apacheloggerwe should discuss on the ML what to do with the qml bits13:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: plz2start discussion since you know more about it13:38
Peace--btw ... can someone fix the  plasmaengineexplorer 13:39
Peace--on 13.04 there is not way to install it 13:39
apacheloggerif no one wants them in a relase of p4 I'd deactivate them in all repos, release a last minor version and then consider master frozen for features13:39
apachelogger(i.e. further 4.7 releases happen from master and p5 development in a branch)13:39
apacheloggeror vice versa, doesn't really matter ^^13:39
apacheloggerPeace--: <apachelogger> Peace-: moved to plasmate which is not part of workspace13:40
apachelogger<apachelogger> in fact not even part of the software collection...13:40
apacheloggerPeace--: you want to complain about that in #plasma13:40
Peace--apachelogger: ah srr13:40
Peace--not readed 13:40
apacheloggerno problem13:40
Peace--apachelogger: mm plasmate ? i can't find on apt-cache13:41
Peace--sigh13:41
apacheloggerbecause there is no stable release of plasmate13:42
apacheloggerit's very much still in development13:42
apacheloggerhence why you can feel free to complain to the plasma people13:42
Peace--ok compiling it 13:42
Peace--someone here knows if rooting asus nexus you will lost warranty13:44
Peace--i would like try plasma active but... :D 13:44
shadeslayeroh shoot13:50
shadeslayerI forgot about ktp-desktop-applets13:50
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smartboyhwAnyone do calligra? If not I will do it...14:44
smartboyhwDamn who posted 2.6.0 there when it is still not yet released???14:47
yofel__smartboyhw: tarballs are avaliable on kde private sftp15:18
yofel__someone will have to give you access to that or fetch you the tar if you plan to work on it. It can be put into ninja PPA until it's out15:19
smartboyhwyofel, I want to work onit15:24
smartboyhwyofel__, ^15:25
yofel__can someone please do that? otherwilse I'll take care of it in ~half an hour once I'm home. Can't do it from here.15:28
smartboyhwRiddell, ^15:29
apacheloggersmartboyhw: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+sshkeys first key or second?15:33
smartboyhwapachelogger, checking:P15:33
smartboyhwapachelogger, first one with name and email15:36
* smartboyhw finds it real hard15:36
apacheloggeryofel:   File "/home/apachelogger/kubuntu-dev-tools/pylib/KubuntuDevTools/launchpad.py", line 95, in login_with15:50
apachelogger    credential_store=credential_store)15:50
apacheloggerTypeError: login_with() got an unexpected keyword argument 'application_name'15:50
apacheloggerohm15:54
apacheloggeryofel: I am somewhat certain __version__ is a str object15:55
apacheloggeryou are comapring a str with a float here15:55
apacheloggerdistutils apparently has functions to compare versions15:56
yofelapachelogger: yeah, I am -.-16:22
yofelapachelogger: wouldn't just comparing '1.6' > '1.9' work here though? as > does work on strings16:23
yofelhm, depending on whether __version__ is guaranteed to be a string16:23
Riddellhi16:50
Riddell4.10.0 all done? awesomeness17:05
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: hi17:10
Riddellhowdy phoenix_firebrd 17:11
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: where is the source in this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu ?17:18
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: mm how do you mean?17:19
RiddellGet this branch:17:19
Riddellbzr branch lp:~blue-shell/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu17:19
Riddellsays that page17:19
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: it only contains the debain files but not the source files17:19
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: have you checked that ~blue-shell PPA?17:20
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: no17:20
Riddellmight be this one https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/tomahawk17:21
Riddellbut you'd be best to ask apachelogger since it's his package17:21
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: any reason why the source was not added?17:21
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: is this a common practice?17:22
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: yes, keeping the full source code in bzr gets very faffy very quickly17:23
Riddellbest to keep them separate17:23
Riddellit's the main reason why UDD isn't very popular I think17:23
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: so we can add only the change and then merge with the main?17:24
Riddellyes17:24
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: i have some doubts, do you have time?17:25
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: I have time but a wonky head so I may not make much sense, ask away :)17:31
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: in that case, just tell me where can i find the kbzr manual 17:32
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: kbzr is a one line shell script to run bzr on ~kubuntu-packagers17:33
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: oh, ok 17:33
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: thank you , see you later17:33
Riddellthings you might want to read include bzr-buildeb manual which is a tool to do various things with mixing package sources and bzr archives http://jameswestby.net/bzr/builddeb/user_manual/17:34
Riddellthe ubuntu packaging guide which covers packaging with UDD and more traditional methods that keep the source separate from the .tar.gz http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/17:34
Riddelland the bzr user guide http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/17:35
Riddellbut if you get overwhelmed then stop, not all of that will be useful to take in all at once17:35
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: I have learned most of the basics, but i have something else to ask in my mind. I will ask you or yofel or shadeslayer later17:37
shadeslayersure :)17:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: got time?17:38
shadeslayerRiddell: saw the Archos G9 post on planetkde17:38
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: not exactly, pretty tired :P17:38
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: me too17:38
shadeslayerI merged your ktp-desktop-applets packaging after a few fixes btw17:38
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: oh thank you17:38
shadeslayerno, thank you :)17:38
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: any time17:39
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i will check for the changes17:39
shadeslayerRiddell: http://ruedigergad.com/2013/02/04/plasma-active-for-archos-g9-armv7hl/17:39
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: just one question for today so that i can sleep?17:40
shadeslayersure17:40
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: https://code.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/telepathy-kde/ktp-desktop-applets-ubuntu17:40
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: why is the watch file directing me to a third party website?17:40
shadeslayercan you give me an example?17:41
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok wait17:42
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: cx-freeze v4.3.1 "http://sf.net/cx-freeze/(?:cx-freeze|cx_Freeze)-(.*)\.tar\.gz"17:43
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thats the link in the watch file, thats sourceforge17:43
shadeslayersf.net is a redirector for sourceforge.net17:44
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ya i know but why?17:44
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: if cx-freeze is part of ubuntu|Kde they the source is somewhere else?17:45
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: In that case the original author can add any source location?17:45
shadeslayerthe source is hosted on sourceforge17:46
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: as a source package download link?17:46
shadeslayeri.e. the orignal source17:46
phoenix_firebrdya17:46
shadeslayer"qa.debian.org runs a redirector which allows a simpler form of URL for SourceForge based projects."17:46
shadeslayerso simpler url format17:46
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so only SourceForge  links accepted?17:47
shadeslayerhuh17:47
shadeslayer?17:47
shadeslayersf.net only redirects to sourceforge, yes17:47
shadeslayerbut you can add a watch file for say, downloads.kde.org17:48
shadeslayer-s17:48
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: if i am the author of a software and i put my original package in xyz.com for download, then can i add that link in the watch fil.e?17:48
shadeslayeryep17:49
shadeslayerbut the watch file will only work as long as the author of the software follows a proper format17:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thats ok17:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so launchpad will accept that right?17:50
shadeslayerfor eg. if you release foo-0.1.tar.gz and then release bar_1.tar.xz and your watch file only takes one of the conditions 17:50
shadeslayerthen it won't work17:50
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: LP doesn't really complain about watch files :P17:50
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so no one decides on the link location except the original author right?17:50
shadeslayeryep17:51
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thats all17:51
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ty17:51
shadeslayernp17:51
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: good night17:51
shadeslayernight :)17:51
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: good night17:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I've put an apturl on my todo list for QApt 2.118:04
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: when would that be?22:22
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: 2.0.0 release is scheduled for mid-March22:23
apacheloggerk22:23
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1115693] ksysguard does not reflect changes in color-scheme @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1115693 (by Søren Holm)22:47

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