[02:02] <PeterFA> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 12.10 and it won't detect the Windows NTFS partition on my main harddrive. It just lists the whole harddrive as available. I'd like to do a dual boot.
[02:30] <MichaelP> Does ubuntu use mkinitcpio -p ?
[02:31] <tsimpson> MichaelP: it uses mkinitramfs
[02:33] <MichaelP> tsimpson: reason im asking is when i was useing arch.. like installing the catalyst driver. or something it was mkinitcpio -p linux  ... linux was kernel
[02:35] <entreri> hey there, I would like to know the name of bluetooth software in kubuntu. It is simply "Bluetooth-applet" or blueman or else ?
[02:36] <tsimpson> MichaelP: the equivalent would be "update-initramfs -c -t -k $(uname -r)" to generate a new initramfs image
[02:37] <tsimpson> entreri: bluedevil
[02:39] <entreri> tsimpson: thanks !
[02:39] <MichaelP> tsimpson: uname -r would be 3.5.0-23-generic... so it would be..   update-initramfs -c -t -k $ 3.5.0-23-generic ?
[02:40] <tsimpson> MichaelP: just "update-initramfs -c -t -k 3.5.0-23-generic"
[02:40] <Mathnerd314> hmm, how many packages do I have to install to go from vanilla ubuntu to kubuntu?
[02:40] <MichaelP> ohh with the $
[02:40] <tsimpson> Mathnerd314: one, kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <MichaelP> tsimpson: thanks
[02:42] <Mathnerd314> tsimpson: ok. :-) And how many sub-packages does that require?
[02:43] <Mathnerd314> I don't really care, TBH.
[02:43] <Mathnerd314> I already know it's 139MB...
[02:44] <tsimpson> it's a lot, probably a couple of hundred
[02:45] <MichaelP> a good connection and 12:10 don't take that long
[02:46] <Mathnerd314> yeah, it's already installing
[02:46] <tsimpson> just so you know, installing ubuntu-desktop from a Kubuntu system requires more packages :)
[02:47] <MichaelP> think with 12:10 apt is all most as fast as arch linux pacman
[02:47] <Mathnerd314> of course - unity takes up 100 packages or something :-)
[02:47] <MichaelP> I don't like unity
[02:48] <Mathnerd314> really? it seems to be the direction most UI's are headed
[02:49] <MichaelP> I don't like its menu for 1 thing.. Gnome-shell has menu extentions
[02:49] <Mathnerd314> ah, that is a point. too apple-like.
[02:50] <MichaelP> i like apple look better then unity
[02:50] <Mathnerd314> ok... write a blog post about it or something
[02:51] <MichaelP> I have always mainly been kde
[06:46] <phoenix_firebrd> good morning everyone
[07:03] <noaXess> morning all
[07:04] <noaXess> how can i find out, wich network hardware is used for eth0? server has two network cards.. and i need to know which is used for eth0
[07:06] <shadeslayer> noaXess: do you know the mac address of the cards?
[07:06] <noaXess> shadeslayer: jep
[07:07] <shadeslayer> noaXess: ifconfig -a | grep ^eth
[07:08] <shadeslayer> the "HWaddr" key specifies the mac address of the card
[07:08] <noaXess> as i said, i know the hw addresses.. but how to get now the correct hardware information
[07:08] <noaXess> maintainer and so on
[07:08] <shadeslayer> erm
[07:08] <shadeslayer> you said you want to know which one is used for eth0
[07:09] <shadeslayer> and if you run that command, you'll get something like this : eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 10:9a:dd:6b:a3:ca
[07:09] <shadeslayer> different mac address obviously
[07:10] <noaXess> yes.. see here, this two network cards are installed/available: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1607376
[07:10] <shadeslayer> so .. what exactly do you want to do
[07:10] <noaXess> does eht0 is the Intel card or the VMWare card
[07:11] <shadeslayer> I just told you how to figure that out :|
[07:11] <shadeslayer> run ifconfig -a | grep ^eth  and give me the output
[07:11] <noaXess> sorry.. but i'm not at th server.. just over ssh
[07:11] <shadeslayer> thats fine
[07:11] <noaXess> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1607381/
[07:12] <shadeslayer> now which card has the mac address  00:0c:29:44:ca:f9 ?
[07:12] <shadeslayer> that's the one that owns eth0
[07:12] <shadeslayer> doing a mac address search, looks like vmware
[07:12] <noaXess> shadeslayer: yes.. that what i want to know.. it's a server of a customer.. and i need to disable one card.. but i don't know which MAC does belong to which card ;)
[07:12] <noaXess> both seams to be vmware...
[07:13] <noaXess> i just have access to the virtual machine.. and want give the maintaner of the vmware host to tip to disable one card... cause the server has network looping problems
[07:13] <shadeslayer> you said you know which MAC belongs to which card
[07:13] <noaXess> no on.. i said i know the MAC's ;) but not which one belongs to which card ;) sorry.. if you missunderstood
[07:14] <shadeslayer> hm
[07:14] <noaXess> so can i find out wich MAC belongs to which card over console?
[07:14] <noaXess> thats my prob... or what i want
[07:14] <shadeslayer> maybe lshw can help
[07:16] <shadeslayer> yeah
[07:16] <shadeslayer> noaXess: sudo lshw -c network
[07:16] <shadeslayer> Look for this line : serial: 10:9a:dd:6b:a3:ca
[07:16] <noaXess> shadeslayer: ok.. got it too
[07:17] <shadeslayer> maybe the intel card is bridged or sth?
[07:17] <noaXess> shadeslayer: yeah.. fine.. thanks :]
[07:17] <shadeslayer> in which case it'll be called br0
[07:17] <noaXess> hm.. don't know what they did.. cause both cards had the same address.. one fixed, the other dhcp..
[07:17] <shadeslayer> but anyway, now you should be able to figure it out
[07:17] <noaXess> no br0 here.. just eth0, eth1 and lo
[07:17] <shadeslayer> hm
[07:17] <shadeslayer> odd
[07:18] <noaXess> jep
[07:30] <noaXess> informed the VMWare admin to check, why there are two network cards with same ip defined
[09:28] <clodblue> Hi everybody. Is there a way to cut and paste a file in command line
[09:43] <AciD`> clodblue > ./yourfile provided you set it to eXecute, and you put the #!/bin/sh on the very first line ?
[09:47] <clodblue> AciD > sorry i dont understant what you are saying
[09:47] <alberto_> ciao
[09:47] <alberto_> !list
[09:48] <AciD`> clodblue > if what you want to do is execute commands from a file (instead of having to copy paste those commands directly into a terminal, then that's the way to go !
[09:49] <AciD`> name you file "mycmds.sh" for instance
[09:49] <clodblue> ok
[09:49] <AciD`> write on the first line "#!/bin/sh", then put all your shell commands on the following lines
[09:50] <AciD`> then save then file
[09:50] <AciD`> use `chmod +x mycmds.sh` to set it to execute
[09:50] <AciD`> then finally type : ./mycmds.sh
[09:50] <AciD`> voila !
[09:52] <clodblue> sorry i am newbe and i get confused. I  want to only moving (not rename)  a file from one place to another.
[09:53] <AciD`> then us the mv command
[09:53] <AciD`> man mv
[09:53] <clodblue> not rename
[09:53] <AciD`> mv stands for "MoVe"
[09:54] <clodblue> yes but moving means renaming in linux
[09:56] <AciD`> only if you stay in the same directory
[09:56] <AciD`> please read the manual : man mv
[09:56] <clodblue> ok thanks a lot ... i will check
[10:01] <chakkimatti> noob morning *_*
[10:01] <chakkimatti> My first 2 hours of Kubuntu <3
[10:02] <Tm_T> chakkimatti: welcome and congrats
[10:39] <clodblue> AciD: Thanks a lot again.  It has worked.
[10:39] <AciD`> clodblue > you're welcome
[10:41] <ignerious> i want to remove the "recently used" tab from the kickoff launcher Pleaseeee help me :)
[10:42] <shadeslayer> I don't think you can :)
[10:43] <ignerious> i dont need it and the launcher width is tooo much
[10:43] <ignerious> please some how help me
[10:43] <shadeslayer> erm, like I said, I don't think it can be done, I don't see an option to turn it off
[10:44] <ignerious> through coding or something like that
[10:52] <chakkimatti> anyone got time for a quickie?
[10:53] <chakkimatti> How do I tell Kubuuntu to everytime ask for the sudo pass when access is denied?
[10:53] <chakkimatti> I'm trying to extract a zip with Ark
[11:13] <Guillem_> Some applications show default "X" icon at task-bar (NEdit, NX-client, ...) Is there any way of fixing this?
[11:14] <Guillem_> Strangely, NX-Client has an icon at the apps menu
[11:16] <ignerious> i want to remove the "recently used" tab from the kickoff launcher Pleaseeee help me :)
[11:16] <ignerious> anyone please help
[11:22] <Jarris> hi there, i have kubuntu 12.10 and switched back to kdm, because lightdm did not work reliable. now on start up lightdm starts and stops befor kdm is started. is this needed? thx in advance?
[11:22] <ignerious> i want to remove the "recently used" tab from the kickoff launcher Pleaseeee help me :)
[11:22] <ignerious> anyone please help
[11:23] <shadeslayer> Jarris: how did you switch to kdm?
[11:23] <shadeslayer> ignerious: maybe #kde can help
[11:23] <ignerious> okay
[11:23] <shadeslayer> though I really think you cannot remove that tab
[11:25] <Jarris> shadeslayer: i do not rememder, but think i just installed kdm and when i was asked i did choose kdm for standart dm.
[11:26] <shadeslayer> can you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm in konsole?
[11:26] <Jarris> ofc
[11:26] <shadeslayer> this shouldn't be happening
[11:26] <shadeslayer> plus, purge lightdm-kde-greeter
[11:28] <Jarris> shadeslayer: apt want to remove "kubuntu-desktop lightdm-kde-greeter". there are dependences...
[11:28] <chakkimatti> How do I customize KDE to prompt for the sudo pass ie. when extracting in Ark?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> Jarris: sounds fine, since kubuntu-destkop depends on lightdm-kde-greeter
[11:29] <shadeslayer> chakkimatti: what O_O
[11:29] <chakkimatti> :D
[11:29] <shadeslayer> chakkimatti: why would you want to do that
[11:29] <chakkimatti> umm.. When I try and extract with Ark on the Kubuntu it says access dennnied
[11:30] <shadeslayer> check the contents of the tar?
[11:30] <chakkimatti> .zip
[11:30] <Jarris> shadeslayer: i want to keep me kubuntu-destkop :) there must be a conf to change that start/stop thing
[11:30] <shadeslayer> Jarris: it's just a meta package :P
[11:30] <shadeslayer> but ... this sounds like a bug
[11:31] <shadeslayer> Jarris: can you file a bug against lightdm ?
[11:32] <Jarris> shadeslayer: would be an idea.. but wount solv it soon :)
[11:32] <shadeslayer> true, but atleast we can track it for 13.04
[11:32] <shadeslayer> and figure out how to fix it
[11:32] <Jarris> shadeslayer: u are right, i will do so. thx!
[11:32] <shadeslayer> chakkimatti: check if the zip is trying to extract to /
[11:33] <shadeslayer> if it is, you want to run with kdesudo ark /path/to/foo.zip
[11:33] <shadeslayer> Jarris: just run ubuntu-bug lightdm ;)
[11:40] <Jarris> shadeslayer: what do u exactly mean?
[11:41] <shadeslayer> it's a command to report a bug
[11:42] <Jarris> in this channel?
[11:44] <Jarris> got it -.-
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:27] <chakkimatti> shadeslayer:  worked around it by setting my httpd.conf's DocumentRoot. Can't extract to root even if superuser?
[12:28] <shadeslayer> huh? whut? I have no idea what you're talking about :P
[12:28] <shadeslayer> because I have no idea what the zip contains
[12:28] <shadeslayer> but you could try something like sudo unzip /path/to/zip
[12:41] <ignerious> how to change background colour or image of the boot screen
[12:43] <ignerious> how to change background colour or image of the boot screen
[12:43] <ignerious> pleasseeeeeeeee
[12:46] <shadeslayer> ignerious: look in /lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo
[13:27] <ignerious> hey i have change the background of the boot screen
[13:29] <ignerious> but the problem is that it shows only during shutdown not during the boot time
[13:29] <ignerious> anyone please help regarding this issue
[13:31] <RamchandraApte> ignerious: what's the issue (I joined late)
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ignerious, does this pose a serious problem for you or is it just an annoyance ?
[13:32] <ignerious> it just half done
[13:32] <ignerious> the changed background appears only during shutdown not during next boot
[13:33] <ignerious> during next boot the previous background appears
[13:33] <ignerious> and this continues
[13:42] <tao> ??I'm new
[13:43] <BluesKaj> tao, welcome , do you have a support question?
[13:43] <tao> i use ubuntu
[13:44] <tao> but this is the kubuntu]
[13:44] <BluesKaj> tao,  join #ubuntu
[13:44] <tao> thanks very much
[13:45] <tao> join #ubuntu
[13:45] <tao> e
[13:45] <tao> how ??
[13:45] <RamchandraApte> tao: type /join #ubuntu
[13:45] <tao> OK
[13:46] <BluesKaj> or click on the link #ubuntu
[13:46] <RamchandraApte> BluesKaj: I would have suggested that, but it might not work on all IRC clients.
[13:47] <RamchandraApte> BluesKaj: Now I see that he uses Quassel.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> RamchandraApte, it works on most that I've tried , but your sugestion is the correct one
[13:47] <ignerious> RamchandraApte: what do you think?
[13:51] <tao> BluesKaj thanks
[13:51] <changer> hey all
[13:52] <changer> i just updated my fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 and now i do not have  a desktop like it should be
[13:53] <changer> only way to acces things is trough richt click and change desktop background,
[13:53] <changer> then i can get into system menu etc and pfff , dunno what to do now :)
[13:53] <changer> cant reach console either lol
[13:54] <BluesKaj> have you added the panel , changer ?
[13:55] <changer> hmmm nope, didnt change a single thing since fresh install, i had the side bar etc, after update (automatic) i rebooted and got it like now , so nothing added/changed :S
[13:56] <BluesKaj> right click on the desktop "add panel" , then you can add widgetrs from there like launchers, taslbars etc
[13:57] <BluesKaj> changer, this is kubuntu support , for ubuntu do /join #ubuntu
[13:57] <changer> all i have when i right click is create document,folder and allign / organize desktop, and change background
[13:57] <changer> i added folder to open up the acces to the disk
[13:57] <hateball> changer: have you checked that you're on your normal activity and not some new messed up one?
[13:58] <hateball> upgrading to 12.10 put me on a different activity than what I was previously using
[13:58] <changer> im on 12.10
[13:58] <changer> something went wrong updating
[13:58] <BluesKaj> 12.10 what tho ?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> which desktop?
[13:59] <changer> normal ubuntu 12.10
[13:59] <BluesKaj> plasma
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kde?
[14:00] <changer> i  went from opensuse to ubuntu, i have no clue what the name is , its the default distr. with standard desktop
[14:01] <BluesKaj> then join #ubuntu for your support questions, changer , theis kubuntu support for kde plasma desktop
[14:01] <BluesKaj> this is
[14:35] <santtu> #depersonalisaatio
[15:06] <jksdf> Hi all I am having a problem with Kate; certain old text files/code have a very long line length and when I go to open them I get some error, and the files are then read only :/. I have tried changing katerc config file so that the line length limit is 0 (as I saw on the interwebs), but this hasn't fixed the problem...
[15:07] <jksdf> Any ideas on a solution?
[15:12] <jksdf> I see this is a bug since long ago. Welp, installing gedit... nm
[15:15] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, I'm having some trouble with kmail. I have 2 IMAP account and I'm trying to add a POP3 accout, I've added it and I can send mails from it but I can't receive anything
[15:15] <ovidiu-florin> and the Root folder for that account hasn't appeared
[15:16] <sbivol> jksdf: could you put one of those files on some server (paste.kde.org, for example) so I could test?
[17:45] <mr-rich> how do you restart telepathy?
[17:47] <mandoguit> concentrate really hard???   (sorry I couldn't resist)
[18:06] <ular-naga> hi
[18:18] <sbivol> mr-rich: I guess you simply set your account Offline then Online
[18:19] <mr-rich> That worked ... thanks
[19:21] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, on the http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour page, the screenshot of Complete and professional office suite presents OpenOffice.org instead of LibreOffice
[19:22] <disharmonic> hmm, There's no KDE 4.9 update foe 12.04 in the repos?
[19:23] <disharmonic> and by repos i mean the Kubuntu updates ppa
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> disharmonic: from What I saw, no. But I'm not sure because I'm using the backports
[19:24] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin,  backpoerts has 4.10 RC atm though, right?
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> no.
[19:24] <ovidiu-florin> I have 4.9.5
[19:25] <ovidiu-florin> and I have all the updates installed
[19:27] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, try the kubuntu backports , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then , sudp apt-get update
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ans upgrade
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ns=and
[19:29] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin,  yeah thats the same as 12.10 currently iirc.  I was expecting it to have the 13.04 packages tbh . So I'm guessing  it quite stable for you? BluesKaj  yeah i think i'll give it a try
[19:30] <disharmonic> it=it's
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> It's stable enough.. no problems so far... just some issues with kontact
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> and is't laggy sometimes
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> What I find the most disturbing is that some windows open minimised by default
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> and I'm staring at the screen wondering where's my window
[19:33] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin, that sounds annoying. I don't have that on my laptop that's running 12.10. Maybe a config issue
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> if it is, soemone please tell me how to fix it
[19:34] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, I'm havingsome problems like , system setings>user management has orphaned modules , but that may nor apply to your install, but Firefox freezes alot lately , I haven't checked the logs yet
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> usually this happenes in popups
[19:35] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin, have a look at system-settings>window behavior>windows rules .
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> disharmonic: it's not a setting, it happenes only sometimes
[19:40] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin, Actually Focus stealing prevention seems like a likely culprit to me in your case. There's no random rules in your config?
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> there are just the default's. I haven't changed anything
[19:42] <disharmonic> ovidiu-florin, in window behavior you could try setting focus stealing prevention to none to see if it solves your issue. Anyway, it's just a guess
[19:44] <disharmonic> BluesKaj, well it's done know. Any issues that pop up i'll just have to deal with :p . FF issues could be caused by some plugin though
[19:44] <disharmonic> know=now
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> disharmonic: I disabled that setting. I'll see if that still happenes
[20:03] <hieronymus_> Hello there
[21:09] <disharmonic> Well that was strange. After the relogging to let KDE update the default desktop appeared for like 3-4 secs and then it switched to my custom setop