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vipzrxhello05:10
vipzrxanybody here?05:14
vipzrx[   32.533843] omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST on channel tv, restarting the output with video overlays disabled05:25
vipzrx[   32.627380] omapdss DISPC error: timeout waiting for digit out to stop05:25
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dholbachgood morning07:48
mjrosenbmorning all.08:09
mjrosenbI have the new(ish) ARM chromebook, i'd like to put the 13.04 prerelease  on there, is this remotely possible yet?08:11
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fabomjrosenb: there's several way to do that. the easiest (imo) is to use http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.fi/ then enable https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/+archive/ppa and dist-upgrade to 13.04.08:26
faboikepanhc: arndale kernel oops is fixed. you can pick up latest arndale kernel.08:28
mjrosenbfabo: so I've used the first part before08:28
mjrosenbfabo: and upgrading has bricked it before08:28
mjrosenbfabo: although I was attempting to upgrade to 12.1008:28
mjrosenbfabo: I take it this doesn't brick the machine with high probability.?08:29
ikepanhcfabo: many thanks, the fix on linux-linaro-tracking.git tree?08:29
faboikepanhc: yes08:30
fabomjrosenb: it can't brick it. you're using a separate sdcard.08:31
mjrosenbfabo: at the time the shell script installed to the main sd card08:32
mjrosenband it certainly rendered ubuntu unbootable.08:32
fabomjrosenb: though it could be tricky because of an issue with plymouth. you shouldn't reboot in the process until you get 13.04 dist-upgrade done08:33
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mjrosenbfabo: yeah, I think my pandaboard ran into that one recently.08:34
mjrosenbfabo: is it possible to just disable plymouth, and use the textual boot?08:34
ikepanhcfabo: thanks again. I see it and I will give it a try.08:34
fabomjrosenb: if you have an usb ethernet dongle, you're safe as you could still restore graphics driver if it goes wrong with plymouth.08:34
fabomjrosenb: it doesn't brick, it's just that you're stuck at plymouth stage and X doesn't start08:35
faboikepanhc: you're welcome. it works like a charm. now I'm looking for a guid on arndale to resolve random mac address issue.08:37
faboikepanhc: is that the reason you use an usb ethernet dongle on arndale?08:37
ikepanhcfabo: I have no idea, I am far away from the board and it is setup in a lab with remote power control and serial.08:40
ikepanhcI can check with my colleague why they choose a usb-ethernet dongle08:40
faboikepanhc: arndale has onboard ethernet (asix driver) but the driver assign random mac address because the chip doesn't have a valid one08:41
mjrosenbfabo: thanks, I'll try it out in the next few hours hopefully.08:41
faboikepanhc: if you use dhcpd, dhcpd lease will be full at some point...08:42
ikepanhcfabo: the ethernet is asix indeed, its on usb bus right?08:42
faboikepanhc: I used an udev rule to work around but assign a specific address08:43
faboikepanhc: yes08:43
ikepanhcfabo: I can see it on lsusb08:43
ikepanhcfabo: oh, then its not dongle, what we use is on board ethernet08:43
faboikepanhc: it's problematic if you have several boards in the lab... so I'm looking for a guid08:44
ikepanhcfabo: that's alright, we assign static ip for them08:44
fabook08:44
fabomjrosenb: feel free to ping, I'm around08:45
diwicogra, hi, tried flashing my Nexus7 using the GUI tool to have another stab at the audio, but it hung on "Erasing boot partition"09:27
* diwic cancels and tries again09:30
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diwicok, worked after restarting the bootloader09:32
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nils_diwic, I had problems with the setup of ubuntu after starting the nexus installer09:54
nils_the window of the language selection was to far at the right side and it was difficult to continue.09:54
nils_can you confirm that?09:55
diwicnils_, I wonder if I got the latest image, I thought I did, but it looks old10:10
nils_uname -a shows: 3.1.10-9-nexus7 ... Thu Jan 31 12:23:4410:20
diwicnils_, yeah, mine showed 3.1.10-7 something, so I'm reflashing it now10:21
diwicnils_, hrm, it still says 3.1.10-7-nexus7 after a reflash! I guess I have to download the image manually or something10:39
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diwic...or why not download the latest ubuntu-nexus7-installer first, argh10:40
nils_good idea10:40
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mjrosenbfabo: ok, I tried that script for an external drive11:15
mjrosenbfabo: it did not work, it looks like it made a filesystem that was too big for the partition that it made11:15
mjrosenbthen failed to do anything after that11:15
mjrosenband just rebooted the laptop instead.11:16
fabomjrosenb: external drive or sdcard? the script expect a sdcard11:19
mjrosenbsdcard11:20
mjrosenbsorry,11:20
ogradiwic, if your PC is on raring, usb-creator will offer you the installation, no need for the extra installer11:20
ogradiwic, and i would just do a manual install, it's just three four commands to flash manually (see the wiki)11:21
ogra-three11:21
ogranils_, btw, did you notice that we have usbnet on by default now ?11:22
nils_ogra, yes I was excited. I am studying about networking, ifconfig and so forth. I am already pinging a lot back and forth.11:37
ograthanks again for the suggestion :)11:37
nils_I first tried out to set up the network manually with ifconfig but the two systems forgot their ip-addresses after a while.11:38
nils_then I took the easy way and configured manually ip-addresses through the gnome interface.11:39
nils_now it's stable.11:39
nils_next what I have to understand is routing ;-)11:39
nils_ogra, I tried to understand where I can see the changes of the build.11:42
mjrosenbfabo: any idea?11:42
nils_I thought I should find the changes here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-nexus7.git;a=summary11:42
mosasaurFor an ARMv7 chroot, should I use an armhf or an armel core rootfs?11:42
ograin /usr/chare/doc/<packagename>/changelog.gz if you have the package installed, and on launchpad in the changelog indeed11:43
ogra*/usr/share11:43
nils_sorry ;-) where on launchpad? I tried to search for the latest changes here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus711:47
diwichrm, now I got the latest image (I hope), but the "who are you?" section in the installer does not accept input11:48
diwictried both the onboard and keyboard over OTG cable11:49
ogradiwic, reboot, there is a race between onboard and compiz, it doesnt seem to happen after a reboot11:49
ograthat and the corrupt wallpaper are known issues11:49
* diwic hopes that doesn't corrupt the sound11:50
ogradoes pulse have a new bling-test module that looks if your desktop is beautiful ? :)11:51
diwicogra, I was referring to the reboot :-)11:52
ograah11:52
diwicogra, did you see my latest comment in bug 1068804 ?11:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106880411:52
ogradid you see mine ?11:53
diwicogra, ok, now I saw it11:53
diwicnils_, yeah, the "system configuration" screen is far to the right after a reboot, but it wasn't before the reboot11:55
diwicnils_, and if you rotate it to "portrait" there is no "system configuration" screen at all11:55
nils_diwic, I had the same. Then I managed to show Onboard and could press Enter in order to proceed.11:58
nils_This for a few more screens and after the installation everything fine.11:58
ografile a bug please, i know xnox loves them :P12:00
diwicnils_, hrm, I have a keyboard connected to it, but pressing Enter does nothing12:00
diwicogra, btw, does the installer run things differently than the install? I see the installer has a sound indicator but no device in sound settings12:02
ograthe installer uns as root12:02
ogra*runs12:02
ograi think pulse or teh indicator have some prevention builtin12:03
ograso you cant use it as root12:03
diwicok12:04
diwicanyway, this stuff isn't working; I can't proceed in the installer12:04
ogra(i would actually like to hide that stuff from the panel ....12:04
ograi diont see a reason to play with sound settings during install (if sound works at least)12:04
ogradiwic, try without kbd attached12:05
ograi know it works after a reboot for me ... and i stopped using mice or kbds a while ago on the nexus12:05
diwicogra, right, but I can't reboot it, because the "ok" for the reboot is off the screen too12:06
ograheh12:06
ograjust hold down the power button12:06
ograit auto-reboots12:06
diwicok12:07
nils_ogra, found it now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/linux-nexus712:07
ograright, clicking the version numbers gets you the changelog details on that page12:08
ograhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nexus7/3.1.10-9.2412:09
ograthats the change that added g_composite12:09
diwicnils_, ogra ok, now I was able to complete the dialogs in portrait mode12:09
ogragreat12:10
ograwe should probably disable auto-rotation during install12:10
ograand force it to portrait12:10
ograor simply switch back to metacity12:10
ograwhich didnt have any of these probs12:10
ograthough thats xnox' decision12:11
diwicogra, sound works after reboot if removing /etc/init/alsa-store.conf and /var/lib/alsa/asound.state12:19
ografunny12:19
diwicogra, would be nice if you or someone else could verify12:19
ograi triesd the latter several times12:19
diwicyou need to remove both12:20
ograrebooting12:21
ograwe shouldnt need to remove the state file if we override the upstart job from the beggingin12:21
ogra-in12:22
diwicogra, correct12:22
ograthough i /me hugs diwic12:22
ograerr12:22
ogra- though i indeed :)12:22
ograworks fine !12:22
diwicogra, TheMuso deserves a hug too12:23
* ogra hugs TheMuso 12:23
ogratwice !12:23
ograso what if i copy the upstart job back ?12:23
ograwould that work ?12:24
ograi assume we still want to store the volume and states  on shutdown12:24
* ogra does it and reboots12:25
diwicogra, so assuming this actually is the culprit, is there an easy way to remove /etc/init/alsa-store.conf from the nexus7 image without removing it from the entire distro?12:33
ograsure12:33
ograits a simple .override file i need to put in place12:34
ograthough it would still be good to know why using a state file doesnt work (and fix the root cause)12:34
ograbtw, copying back the upstart job leaves me without sound again12:34
diwicogra, and that creates the asound.state file so you must again remove both to have sound back I assume12:35
ograwell, bot upstart jobs then12:35
ogra*both12:35
ograbut that means that volume settings wont persist over reboots12:36
diwicogra, no I don't think so - PulseAudio should have its own store/restore system12:36
ograah, k12:36
diwicogra, that said, because we always run both, I guess we haven't tested PulseAudio alone much12:38
ogradiwic, workaround uploaded12:55
diwicogra, thanks, could you write that in the bug and point to the workaround?=12:57
ograthe bug should auto-close12:58
diwicogra, let's hope this is the one :-)12:58
ograoh, wait, needs a task for the defaults package12:58
diwicwe've had too many red herrings for this bug already12:58
ograwell, it works just fine here12:58
ograjust the muted state is left for me12:58
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diwicogra, did you confirm it was still working even though you override *both* alsa-store and alsa-restore?13:30
diwicogra, alsa-restore falls back to some default values if it finds no asound.state13:31
ograyes, indeed, i tend to test uploads before i send them upwards :)13:31
ograit isnt executed at all13:31
ograthanks to the override file13:32
diwicogra, there are two different calls to "alsactl restore", one in alsa-restore.conf and one in /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.conf13:33
ograah, well, the udev rule is indeed still executed, i didnt do anything to prevent that13:33
diwicogra, which one that gets executed, if I understand things correctly, depend on what comes up first of file system and sound device, or something like that13:33
ograin any case it works here atm13:34
diwicogra, so, what is the reason for overriding alsa-restore.conf too?13:34
ograif i hear complaints from users i will look again13:34
ograwell, i didnt think about the udev rule, but essentially to prevent users that actually have the state file from having it restored13:35
ograand instead leave the initilization to the kernel13:35
diwicogra, hmm ok13:35
ograthough if the udev rule kicks in thats indeed moot13:35
diwicogra, it just feels inconsistent to disable one but not the other13:36
ograit seemed like a better way than having to do postinst hackery to remove the state file13:36
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diwicjanimo, ogra https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068804/comments/3114:38
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress]14:38
ogradiwic, will test later today (havent got the latest kernel source here atm)14:39
diwicogra, thanks14:40
diwicogra, I did my own test: I took the asound.state file, removed the "Register Control" entry, and let alsa-restore run as normal after a reboot, and audio still worked14:41
diwicogra, so I'm hopeful14:41
ograawesome !14:41
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xnoxogra: inhibitting autorotation seems fine.16:05
xnoxis the portrait mode intended as the "default" while configuring these days?16:05
xnox(we used to be landscape only, but that's before autorotation worked)16:06
ograxnox, yeah16:06
ograthe bootloader sets portrait as default, we dropped all hacks that change this16:06
xnoxogra: so how does one "inhibit" autorotation? stop the daemon?16:07
ograxnox, i'm really wondering if we shouldnt go back to metacity though16:07
ograyou can stop the upstart job, but make sure to start it again when stopping ubiquity16:07
ograthough better talk to janimo, not sure if we will keep the upstart bits in the long run16:08
ograhe ports everything over to gnome-settings-daemon16:08
ogra(so we'll probably have a dconf key thats better suited for the task)16:09
xnoxlet me upload with more compiz plugins enabled and then I'll maybe will have an opinion about it.16:11
xnox(e.g. keep compiz vs switch back to metacity)16:12
ograyeah16:12
ograthe focus thing is really bad16:13
ograand that a simple reboot fixes it is irritating16:13
scottblool, ping18:01
loolscottb: in a call, but please leave a msg18:03
mjrosenbfabo: still around?18:21
mjrosenbalternately, has anyone succeeded in installing ubuntu on the sdcard of a chromebook?18:36
mjrosenbit seems to die after partitioning because it made the filesystem too large18:36
janimoxnox, good point. We probably need some user visible settings to disable rotation18:55
ograjanimo, i think there is a setting in gsettings already for the xrandr module18:56
ogra(for g-s-d)18:56
ograhmm, or was that just for the touchscreen input rotation ... i forgot18:57
janimoogra, maybe if you disable the g-s-d orientation plugin entirely19:28
janimobut that's not enough as it needs a restart to take effect19:29
janimoI think a toggle in the current Display Panel would be most appropriate19:29
ograyeah19:29
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drizzyhowdy everyone20:59
TheMusodiwic: Good find.21:08
TheMusoI suspected there might be something along those lines as well.21:08
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