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vipzrx | hello | 05:10 |
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vipzrx | anybody here? | 05:14 |
vipzrx | [ 32.533843] omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST on channel tv, restarting the output with video overlays disabled | 05:25 |
vipzrx | [ 32.627380] omapdss DISPC error: timeout waiting for digit out to stop | 05:25 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:48 |
mjrosenb | morning all. | 08:09 |
mjrosenb | I have the new(ish) ARM chromebook, i'd like to put the 13.04 prerelease on there, is this remotely possible yet? | 08:11 |
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fabo | mjrosenb: there's several way to do that. the easiest (imo) is to use http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.fi/ then enable https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/+archive/ppa and dist-upgrade to 13.04. | 08:26 |
fabo | ikepanhc: arndale kernel oops is fixed. you can pick up latest arndale kernel. | 08:28 |
mjrosenb | fabo: so I've used the first part before | 08:28 |
mjrosenb | fabo: and upgrading has bricked it before | 08:28 |
mjrosenb | fabo: although I was attempting to upgrade to 12.10 | 08:28 |
mjrosenb | fabo: I take it this doesn't brick the machine with high probability.? | 08:29 |
ikepanhc | fabo: many thanks, the fix on linux-linaro-tracking.git tree? | 08:29 |
fabo | ikepanhc: yes | 08:30 |
fabo | mjrosenb: it can't brick it. you're using a separate sdcard. | 08:31 |
mjrosenb | fabo: at the time the shell script installed to the main sd card | 08:32 |
mjrosenb | and it certainly rendered ubuntu unbootable. | 08:32 |
fabo | mjrosenb: though it could be tricky because of an issue with plymouth. you shouldn't reboot in the process until you get 13.04 dist-upgrade done | 08:33 |
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mjrosenb | fabo: yeah, I think my pandaboard ran into that one recently. | 08:34 |
mjrosenb | fabo: is it possible to just disable plymouth, and use the textual boot? | 08:34 |
ikepanhc | fabo: thanks again. I see it and I will give it a try. | 08:34 |
fabo | mjrosenb: if you have an usb ethernet dongle, you're safe as you could still restore graphics driver if it goes wrong with plymouth. | 08:34 |
fabo | mjrosenb: it doesn't brick, it's just that you're stuck at plymouth stage and X doesn't start | 08:35 |
fabo | ikepanhc: you're welcome. it works like a charm. now I'm looking for a guid on arndale to resolve random mac address issue. | 08:37 |
fabo | ikepanhc: is that the reason you use an usb ethernet dongle on arndale? | 08:37 |
ikepanhc | fabo: I have no idea, I am far away from the board and it is setup in a lab with remote power control and serial. | 08:40 |
ikepanhc | I can check with my colleague why they choose a usb-ethernet dongle | 08:40 |
fabo | ikepanhc: arndale has onboard ethernet (asix driver) but the driver assign random mac address because the chip doesn't have a valid one | 08:41 |
mjrosenb | fabo: thanks, I'll try it out in the next few hours hopefully. | 08:41 |
fabo | ikepanhc: if you use dhcpd, dhcpd lease will be full at some point... | 08:42 |
ikepanhc | fabo: the ethernet is asix indeed, its on usb bus right? | 08:42 |
fabo | ikepanhc: I used an udev rule to work around but assign a specific address | 08:43 |
fabo | ikepanhc: yes | 08:43 |
ikepanhc | fabo: I can see it on lsusb | 08:43 |
ikepanhc | fabo: oh, then its not dongle, what we use is on board ethernet | 08:43 |
fabo | ikepanhc: it's problematic if you have several boards in the lab... so I'm looking for a guid | 08:44 |
ikepanhc | fabo: that's alright, we assign static ip for them | 08:44 |
fabo | ok | 08:44 |
fabo | mjrosenb: feel free to ping, I'm around | 08:45 |
diwic | ogra, hi, tried flashing my Nexus7 using the GUI tool to have another stab at the audio, but it hung on "Erasing boot partition" | 09:27 |
* diwic cancels and tries again | 09:30 | |
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diwic | ok, worked after restarting the bootloader | 09:32 |
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nils_ | diwic, I had problems with the setup of ubuntu after starting the nexus installer | 09:54 |
nils_ | the window of the language selection was to far at the right side and it was difficult to continue. | 09:54 |
nils_ | can you confirm that? | 09:55 |
diwic | nils_, I wonder if I got the latest image, I thought I did, but it looks old | 10:10 |
nils_ | uname -a shows: 3.1.10-9-nexus7 ... Thu Jan 31 12:23:44 | 10:20 |
diwic | nils_, yeah, mine showed 3.1.10-7 something, so I'm reflashing it now | 10:21 |
diwic | nils_, hrm, it still says 3.1.10-7-nexus7 after a reflash! I guess I have to download the image manually or something | 10:39 |
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diwic | ...or why not download the latest ubuntu-nexus7-installer first, argh | 10:40 |
nils_ | good idea | 10:40 |
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mjrosenb | fabo: ok, I tried that script for an external drive | 11:15 |
mjrosenb | fabo: it did not work, it looks like it made a filesystem that was too big for the partition that it made | 11:15 |
mjrosenb | then failed to do anything after that | 11:15 |
mjrosenb | and just rebooted the laptop instead. | 11:16 |
fabo | mjrosenb: external drive or sdcard? the script expect a sdcard | 11:19 |
mjrosenb | sdcard | 11:20 |
mjrosenb | sorry, | 11:20 |
ogra | diwic, if your PC is on raring, usb-creator will offer you the installation, no need for the extra installer | 11:20 |
ogra | diwic, and i would just do a manual install, it's just three four commands to flash manually (see the wiki) | 11:21 |
ogra | -three | 11:21 |
ogra | nils_, btw, did you notice that we have usbnet on by default now ? | 11:22 |
nils_ | ogra, yes I was excited. I am studying about networking, ifconfig and so forth. I am already pinging a lot back and forth. | 11:37 |
ogra | thanks again for the suggestion :) | 11:37 |
nils_ | I first tried out to set up the network manually with ifconfig but the two systems forgot their ip-addresses after a while. | 11:38 |
nils_ | then I took the easy way and configured manually ip-addresses through the gnome interface. | 11:39 |
nils_ | now it's stable. | 11:39 |
nils_ | next what I have to understand is routing ;-) | 11:39 |
nils_ | ogra, I tried to understand where I can see the changes of the build. | 11:42 |
mjrosenb | fabo: any idea? | 11:42 |
nils_ | I thought I should find the changes here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-nexus7.git;a=summary | 11:42 |
mosasaur | For an ARMv7 chroot, should I use an armhf or an armel core rootfs? | 11:42 |
ogra | in /usr/chare/doc/<packagename>/changelog.gz if you have the package installed, and on launchpad in the changelog indeed | 11:43 |
ogra | */usr/share | 11:43 |
nils_ | sorry ;-) where on launchpad? I tried to search for the latest changes here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7 | 11:47 |
diwic | hrm, now I got the latest image (I hope), but the "who are you?" section in the installer does not accept input | 11:48 |
diwic | tried both the onboard and keyboard over OTG cable | 11:49 |
ogra | diwic, reboot, there is a race between onboard and compiz, it doesnt seem to happen after a reboot | 11:49 |
ogra | that and the corrupt wallpaper are known issues | 11:49 |
* diwic hopes that doesn't corrupt the sound | 11:50 | |
ogra | does pulse have a new bling-test module that looks if your desktop is beautiful ? :) | 11:51 |
diwic | ogra, I was referring to the reboot :-) | 11:52 |
ogra | ah | 11:52 |
diwic | ogra, did you see my latest comment in bug 1068804 ? | 11:52 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068804 | 11:52 |
ogra | did you see mine ? | 11:53 |
diwic | ogra, ok, now I saw it | 11:53 |
diwic | nils_, yeah, the "system configuration" screen is far to the right after a reboot, but it wasn't before the reboot | 11:55 |
diwic | nils_, and if you rotate it to "portrait" there is no "system configuration" screen at all | 11:55 |
nils_ | diwic, I had the same. Then I managed to show Onboard and could press Enter in order to proceed. | 11:58 |
nils_ | This for a few more screens and after the installation everything fine. | 11:58 |
ogra | file a bug please, i know xnox loves them :P | 12:00 |
diwic | nils_, hrm, I have a keyboard connected to it, but pressing Enter does nothing | 12:00 |
diwic | ogra, btw, does the installer run things differently than the install? I see the installer has a sound indicator but no device in sound settings | 12:02 |
ogra | the installer uns as root | 12:02 |
ogra | *runs | 12:02 |
ogra | i think pulse or teh indicator have some prevention builtin | 12:03 |
ogra | so you cant use it as root | 12:03 |
diwic | ok | 12:04 |
diwic | anyway, this stuff isn't working; I can't proceed in the installer | 12:04 |
ogra | (i would actually like to hide that stuff from the panel .... | 12:04 |
ogra | i diont see a reason to play with sound settings during install (if sound works at least) | 12:04 |
ogra | diwic, try without kbd attached | 12:05 |
ogra | i know it works after a reboot for me ... and i stopped using mice or kbds a while ago on the nexus | 12:05 |
diwic | ogra, right, but I can't reboot it, because the "ok" for the reboot is off the screen too | 12:06 |
ogra | heh | 12:06 |
ogra | just hold down the power button | 12:06 |
ogra | it auto-reboots | 12:06 |
diwic | ok | 12:07 |
nils_ | ogra, found it now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/linux-nexus7 | 12:07 |
ogra | right, clicking the version numbers gets you the changelog details on that page | 12:08 |
ogra | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nexus7/3.1.10-9.24 | 12:09 |
ogra | thats the change that added g_composite | 12:09 |
diwic | nils_, ogra ok, now I was able to complete the dialogs in portrait mode | 12:09 |
ogra | great | 12:10 |
ogra | we should probably disable auto-rotation during install | 12:10 |
ogra | and force it to portrait | 12:10 |
ogra | or simply switch back to metacity | 12:10 |
ogra | which didnt have any of these probs | 12:10 |
ogra | though thats xnox' decision | 12:11 |
diwic | ogra, sound works after reboot if removing /etc/init/alsa-store.conf and /var/lib/alsa/asound.state | 12:19 |
ogra | funny | 12:19 |
diwic | ogra, would be nice if you or someone else could verify | 12:19 |
ogra | i triesd the latter several times | 12:19 |
diwic | you need to remove both | 12:20 |
ogra | rebooting | 12:21 |
ogra | we shouldnt need to remove the state file if we override the upstart job from the beggingin | 12:21 |
ogra | -in | 12:22 |
diwic | ogra, correct | 12:22 |
ogra | though i /me hugs diwic | 12:22 |
ogra | err | 12:22 |
ogra | - though i indeed :) | 12:22 |
ogra | works fine ! | 12:22 |
diwic | ogra, TheMuso deserves a hug too | 12:23 |
* ogra hugs TheMuso | 12:23 | |
ogra | twice ! | 12:23 |
ogra | so what if i copy the upstart job back ? | 12:23 |
ogra | would that work ? | 12:24 |
ogra | i assume we still want to store the volume and states on shutdown | 12:24 |
* ogra does it and reboots | 12:25 | |
diwic | ogra, so assuming this actually is the culprit, is there an easy way to remove /etc/init/alsa-store.conf from the nexus7 image without removing it from the entire distro? | 12:33 |
ogra | sure | 12:33 |
ogra | its a simple .override file i need to put in place | 12:34 |
ogra | though it would still be good to know why using a state file doesnt work (and fix the root cause) | 12:34 |
ogra | btw, copying back the upstart job leaves me without sound again | 12:34 |
diwic | ogra, and that creates the asound.state file so you must again remove both to have sound back I assume | 12:35 |
ogra | well, bot upstart jobs then | 12:35 |
ogra | *both | 12:35 |
ogra | but that means that volume settings wont persist over reboots | 12:36 |
diwic | ogra, no I don't think so - PulseAudio should have its own store/restore system | 12:36 |
ogra | ah, k | 12:36 |
diwic | ogra, that said, because we always run both, I guess we haven't tested PulseAudio alone much | 12:38 |
ogra | diwic, workaround uploaded | 12:55 |
diwic | ogra, thanks, could you write that in the bug and point to the workaround?= | 12:57 |
ogra | the bug should auto-close | 12:58 |
diwic | ogra, let's hope this is the one :-) | 12:58 |
ogra | oh, wait, needs a task for the defaults package | 12:58 |
diwic | we've had too many red herrings for this bug already | 12:58 |
ogra | well, it works just fine here | 12:58 |
ogra | just the muted state is left for me | 12:58 |
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diwic | ogra, did you confirm it was still working even though you override *both* alsa-store and alsa-restore? | 13:30 |
diwic | ogra, alsa-restore falls back to some default values if it finds no asound.state | 13:31 |
ogra | yes, indeed, i tend to test uploads before i send them upwards :) | 13:31 |
ogra | it isnt executed at all | 13:31 |
ogra | thanks to the override file | 13:32 |
diwic | ogra, there are two different calls to "alsactl restore", one in alsa-restore.conf and one in /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.conf | 13:33 |
ogra | ah, well, the udev rule is indeed still executed, i didnt do anything to prevent that | 13:33 |
diwic | ogra, which one that gets executed, if I understand things correctly, depend on what comes up first of file system and sound device, or something like that | 13:33 |
ogra | in any case it works here atm | 13:34 |
diwic | ogra, so, what is the reason for overriding alsa-restore.conf too? | 13:34 |
ogra | if i hear complaints from users i will look again | 13:34 |
ogra | well, i didnt think about the udev rule, but essentially to prevent users that actually have the state file from having it restored | 13:35 |
ogra | and instead leave the initilization to the kernel | 13:35 |
diwic | ogra, hmm ok | 13:35 |
ogra | though if the udev rule kicks in thats indeed moot | 13:35 |
diwic | ogra, it just feels inconsistent to disable one but not the other | 13:36 |
ogra | it seemed like a better way than having to do postinst hackery to remove the state file | 13:36 |
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diwic | janimo, ogra https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068804/comments/31 | 14:38 |
ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress] | 14:38 |
ogra | diwic, will test later today (havent got the latest kernel source here atm) | 14:39 |
diwic | ogra, thanks | 14:40 |
diwic | ogra, I did my own test: I took the asound.state file, removed the "Register Control" entry, and let alsa-restore run as normal after a reboot, and audio still worked | 14:41 |
diwic | ogra, so I'm hopeful | 14:41 |
ogra | awesome ! | 14:41 |
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xnox | ogra: inhibitting autorotation seems fine. | 16:05 |
xnox | is the portrait mode intended as the "default" while configuring these days? | 16:05 |
xnox | (we used to be landscape only, but that's before autorotation worked) | 16:06 |
ogra | xnox, yeah | 16:06 |
ogra | the bootloader sets portrait as default, we dropped all hacks that change this | 16:06 |
xnox | ogra: so how does one "inhibit" autorotation? stop the daemon? | 16:07 |
ogra | xnox, i'm really wondering if we shouldnt go back to metacity though | 16:07 |
ogra | you can stop the upstart job, but make sure to start it again when stopping ubiquity | 16:07 |
ogra | though better talk to janimo, not sure if we will keep the upstart bits in the long run | 16:08 |
ogra | he ports everything over to gnome-settings-daemon | 16:08 |
ogra | (so we'll probably have a dconf key thats better suited for the task) | 16:09 |
xnox | let me upload with more compiz plugins enabled and then I'll maybe will have an opinion about it. | 16:11 |
xnox | (e.g. keep compiz vs switch back to metacity) | 16:12 |
ogra | yeah | 16:12 |
ogra | the focus thing is really bad | 16:13 |
ogra | and that a simple reboot fixes it is irritating | 16:13 |
scottb | lool, ping | 18:01 |
lool | scottb: in a call, but please leave a msg | 18:03 |
mjrosenb | fabo: still around? | 18:21 |
mjrosenb | alternately, has anyone succeeded in installing ubuntu on the sdcard of a chromebook? | 18:36 |
mjrosenb | it seems to die after partitioning because it made the filesystem too large | 18:36 |
janimo | xnox, good point. We probably need some user visible settings to disable rotation | 18:55 |
ogra | janimo, i think there is a setting in gsettings already for the xrandr module | 18:56 |
ogra | (for g-s-d) | 18:56 |
ogra | hmm, or was that just for the touchscreen input rotation ... i forgot | 18:57 |
janimo | ogra, maybe if you disable the g-s-d orientation plugin entirely | 19:28 |
janimo | but that's not enough as it needs a restart to take effect | 19:29 |
janimo | I think a toggle in the current Display Panel would be most appropriate | 19:29 |
ogra | yeah | 19:29 |
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drizzy | howdy everyone | 20:59 |
TheMuso | diwic: Good find. | 21:08 |
TheMuso | I suspected there might be something along those lines as well. | 21:08 |
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