=== zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [05:10] hello [05:14] anybody here? [05:25] [ 32.533843] omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST on channel tv, restarting the output with video overlays disabled [05:25] [ 32.627380] omapdss DISPC error: timeout waiting for digit out to stop === sv is now known as discopig [07:48] good morning [08:09] morning all. [08:11] I have the new(ish) ARM chromebook, i'd like to put the 13.04 prerelease on there, is this remotely possible yet? === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [08:26] mjrosenb: there's several way to do that. the easiest (imo) is to use http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.fi/ then enable https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/+archive/ppa and dist-upgrade to 13.04. [08:28] ikepanhc: arndale kernel oops is fixed. you can pick up latest arndale kernel. [08:28] fabo: so I've used the first part before [08:28] fabo: and upgrading has bricked it before [08:28] fabo: although I was attempting to upgrade to 12.10 [08:29] fabo: I take it this doesn't brick the machine with high probability.? [08:29] fabo: many thanks, the fix on linux-linaro-tracking.git tree? [08:30] ikepanhc: yes [08:31] mjrosenb: it can't brick it. you're using a separate sdcard. [08:32] fabo: at the time the shell script installed to the main sd card [08:32] and it certainly rendered ubuntu unbootable. [08:33] mjrosenb: though it could be tricky because of an issue with plymouth. you shouldn't reboot in the process until you get 13.04 dist-upgrade done === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [08:34] fabo: yeah, I think my pandaboard ran into that one recently. [08:34] fabo: is it possible to just disable plymouth, and use the textual boot? [08:34] fabo: thanks again. I see it and I will give it a try. [08:34] mjrosenb: if you have an usb ethernet dongle, you're safe as you could still restore graphics driver if it goes wrong with plymouth. [08:35] mjrosenb: it doesn't brick, it's just that you're stuck at plymouth stage and X doesn't start [08:37] ikepanhc: you're welcome. it works like a charm. now I'm looking for a guid on arndale to resolve random mac address issue. [08:37] ikepanhc: is that the reason you use an usb ethernet dongle on arndale? [08:40] fabo: I have no idea, I am far away from the board and it is setup in a lab with remote power control and serial. [08:40] I can check with my colleague why they choose a usb-ethernet dongle [08:41] ikepanhc: arndale has onboard ethernet (asix driver) but the driver assign random mac address because the chip doesn't have a valid one [08:41] fabo: thanks, I'll try it out in the next few hours hopefully. [08:42] ikepanhc: if you use dhcpd, dhcpd lease will be full at some point... [08:42] fabo: the ethernet is asix indeed, its on usb bus right? [08:43] ikepanhc: I used an udev rule to work around but assign a specific address [08:43] ikepanhc: yes [08:43] fabo: I can see it on lsusb [08:43] fabo: oh, then its not dongle, what we use is on board ethernet [08:44] ikepanhc: it's problematic if you have several boards in the lab... so I'm looking for a guid [08:44] fabo: that's alright, we assign static ip for them [08:44] ok [08:45] mjrosenb: feel free to ping, I'm around [09:27] ogra, hi, tried flashing my Nexus7 using the GUI tool to have another stab at the audio, but it hung on "Erasing boot partition" [09:30] * diwic cancels and tries again === Snark_ is now known as Snark [09:32] ok, worked after restarting the bootloader === ndec is now known as ndec_ [09:54] diwic, I had problems with the setup of ubuntu after starting the nexus installer [09:54] the window of the language selection was to far at the right side and it was difficult to continue. [09:55] can you confirm that? [10:10] nils_, I wonder if I got the latest image, I thought I did, but it looks old [10:20] uname -a shows: 3.1.10-9-nexus7 ... Thu Jan 31 12:23:44 [10:21] nils_, yeah, mine showed 3.1.10-7 something, so I'm reflashing it now [10:39] nils_, hrm, it still says 3.1.10-7-nexus7 after a reflash! I guess I have to download the image manually or something === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [10:40] ...or why not download the latest ubuntu-nexus7-installer first, argh [10:40] good idea === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [11:15] fabo: ok, I tried that script for an external drive [11:15] fabo: it did not work, it looks like it made a filesystem that was too big for the partition that it made [11:15] then failed to do anything after that [11:16] and just rebooted the laptop instead. [11:19] mjrosenb: external drive or sdcard? the script expect a sdcard [11:20] sdcard [11:20] sorry, [11:20] diwic, if your PC is on raring, usb-creator will offer you the installation, no need for the extra installer [11:21] diwic, and i would just do a manual install, it's just three four commands to flash manually (see the wiki) [11:21] -three [11:22] nils_, btw, did you notice that we have usbnet on by default now ? [11:37] ogra, yes I was excited. I am studying about networking, ifconfig and so forth. I am already pinging a lot back and forth. [11:37] thanks again for the suggestion :) [11:38] I first tried out to set up the network manually with ifconfig but the two systems forgot their ip-addresses after a while. [11:39] then I took the easy way and configured manually ip-addresses through the gnome interface. [11:39] now it's stable. [11:39] next what I have to understand is routing ;-) [11:42] ogra, I tried to understand where I can see the changes of the build. [11:42] fabo: any idea? [11:42] I thought I should find the changes here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-nexus7.git;a=summary [11:42] For an ARMv7 chroot, should I use an armhf or an armel core rootfs? [11:43] in /usr/chare/doc//changelog.gz if you have the package installed, and on launchpad in the changelog indeed [11:43] */usr/share [11:47] sorry ;-) where on launchpad? I tried to search for the latest changes here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7 [11:48] hrm, now I got the latest image (I hope), but the "who are you?" section in the installer does not accept input [11:49] tried both the onboard and keyboard over OTG cable [11:49] diwic, reboot, there is a race between onboard and compiz, it doesnt seem to happen after a reboot [11:49] that and the corrupt wallpaper are known issues [11:50] * diwic hopes that doesn't corrupt the sound [11:51] does pulse have a new bling-test module that looks if your desktop is beautiful ? :) [11:52] ogra, I was referring to the reboot :-) [11:52] ah [11:52] ogra, did you see my latest comment in bug 1068804 ? [11:52] Launchpad bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068804 [11:53] did you see mine ? [11:53] ogra, ok, now I saw it [11:55] nils_, yeah, the "system configuration" screen is far to the right after a reboot, but it wasn't before the reboot [11:55] nils_, and if you rotate it to "portrait" there is no "system configuration" screen at all [11:58] diwic, I had the same. Then I managed to show Onboard and could press Enter in order to proceed. [11:58] This for a few more screens and after the installation everything fine. [12:00] file a bug please, i know xnox loves them :P [12:00] nils_, hrm, I have a keyboard connected to it, but pressing Enter does nothing [12:02] ogra, btw, does the installer run things differently than the install? I see the installer has a sound indicator but no device in sound settings [12:02] the installer uns as root [12:02] *runs [12:03] i think pulse or teh indicator have some prevention builtin [12:03] so you cant use it as root [12:04] ok [12:04] anyway, this stuff isn't working; I can't proceed in the installer [12:04] (i would actually like to hide that stuff from the panel .... [12:04] i diont see a reason to play with sound settings during install (if sound works at least) [12:05] diwic, try without kbd attached [12:05] i know it works after a reboot for me ... and i stopped using mice or kbds a while ago on the nexus [12:06] ogra, right, but I can't reboot it, because the "ok" for the reboot is off the screen too [12:06] heh [12:06] just hold down the power button [12:06] it auto-reboots [12:07] ok [12:07] ogra, found it now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/linux-nexus7 [12:08] right, clicking the version numbers gets you the changelog details on that page [12:09] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-nexus7/3.1.10-9.24 [12:09] thats the change that added g_composite [12:09] nils_, ogra ok, now I was able to complete the dialogs in portrait mode [12:10] great [12:10] we should probably disable auto-rotation during install [12:10] and force it to portrait [12:10] or simply switch back to metacity [12:10] which didnt have any of these probs [12:11] though thats xnox' decision [12:19] ogra, sound works after reboot if removing /etc/init/alsa-store.conf and /var/lib/alsa/asound.state [12:19] funny [12:19] ogra, would be nice if you or someone else could verify [12:19] i triesd the latter several times [12:20] you need to remove both [12:21] rebooting [12:21] we shouldnt need to remove the state file if we override the upstart job from the beggingin [12:22] -in [12:22] ogra, correct [12:22] though i /me hugs diwic [12:22] err [12:22] - though i indeed :) [12:22] works fine ! [12:23] ogra, TheMuso deserves a hug too [12:23] * ogra hugs TheMuso [12:23] twice ! [12:23] so what if i copy the upstart job back ? [12:24] would that work ? [12:24] i assume we still want to store the volume and states on shutdown [12:25] * ogra does it and reboots [12:33] ogra, so assuming this actually is the culprit, is there an easy way to remove /etc/init/alsa-store.conf from the nexus7 image without removing it from the entire distro? [12:33] sure [12:34] its a simple .override file i need to put in place [12:34] though it would still be good to know why using a state file doesnt work (and fix the root cause) [12:34] btw, copying back the upstart job leaves me without sound again [12:35] ogra, and that creates the asound.state file so you must again remove both to have sound back I assume [12:35] well, bot upstart jobs then [12:35] *both [12:36] but that means that volume settings wont persist over reboots [12:36] ogra, no I don't think so - PulseAudio should have its own store/restore system [12:36] ah, k [12:38] ogra, that said, because we always run both, I guess we haven't tested PulseAudio alone much [12:55] diwic, workaround uploaded [12:57] ogra, thanks, could you write that in the bug and point to the workaround?= [12:58] the bug should auto-close [12:58] ogra, let's hope this is the one :-) [12:58] oh, wait, needs a task for the defaults package [12:58] we've had too many red herrings for this bug already [12:58] well, it works just fine here [12:58] just the muted state is left for me === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [13:30] ogra, did you confirm it was still working even though you override *both* alsa-store and alsa-restore? [13:31] ogra, alsa-restore falls back to some default values if it finds no asound.state [13:31] yes, indeed, i tend to test uploads before i send them upwards :) [13:31] it isnt executed at all [13:32] thanks to the override file [13:33] ogra, there are two different calls to "alsactl restore", one in alsa-restore.conf and one in /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.conf [13:33] ah, well, the udev rule is indeed still executed, i didnt do anything to prevent that [13:33] ogra, which one that gets executed, if I understand things correctly, depend on what comes up first of file system and sound device, or something like that [13:34] in any case it works here atm [13:34] ogra, so, what is the reason for overriding alsa-restore.conf too? [13:34] if i hear complaints from users i will look again [13:35] well, i didnt think about the udev rule, but essentially to prevent users that actually have the state file from having it restored [13:35] and instead leave the initilization to the kernel [13:35] ogra, hmm ok [13:35] though if the udev rule kicks in thats indeed moot [13:36] ogra, it just feels inconsistent to disable one but not the other [13:36] it seemed like a better way than having to do postinst hackery to remove the state file === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [14:38] janimo, ogra https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068804/comments/31 [14:38] Ubuntu bug 1068804 in ubuntu-nexus7 "sound only works after suspend/resume cycle" [Critical,In progress] [14:39] diwic, will test later today (havent got the latest kernel source here atm) [14:40] ogra, thanks [14:41] ogra, I did my own test: I took the asound.state file, removed the "Register Control" entry, and let alsa-restore run as normal after a reboot, and audio still worked [14:41] ogra, so I'm hopeful [14:41] awesome ! === nathanpc is now known as nathanpc-test === nathanpc-test is now known as nathanpc [16:05] ogra: inhibitting autorotation seems fine. [16:05] is the portrait mode intended as the "default" while configuring these days? [16:06] (we used to be landscape only, but that's before autorotation worked) [16:06] xnox, yeah [16:06] the bootloader sets portrait as default, we dropped all hacks that change this [16:07] ogra: so how does one "inhibit" autorotation? stop the daemon? [16:07] xnox, i'm really wondering if we shouldnt go back to metacity though [16:07] you can stop the upstart job, but make sure to start it again when stopping ubiquity [16:08] though better talk to janimo, not sure if we will keep the upstart bits in the long run [16:08] he ports everything over to gnome-settings-daemon [16:09] (so we'll probably have a dconf key thats better suited for the task) [16:11] let me upload with more compiz plugins enabled and then I'll maybe will have an opinion about it. [16:12] (e.g. keep compiz vs switch back to metacity) [16:12] yeah [16:13] the focus thing is really bad [16:13] and that a simple reboot fixes it is irritating [18:01] lool, ping [18:03] scottb: in a call, but please leave a msg [18:21] fabo: still around? [18:36] alternately, has anyone succeeded in installing ubuntu on the sdcard of a chromebook? [18:36] it seems to die after partitioning because it made the filesystem too large [18:55] xnox, good point. We probably need some user visible settings to disable rotation [18:56] janimo, i think there is a setting in gsettings already for the xrandr module [18:56] (for g-s-d) [18:57] hmm, or was that just for the touchscreen input rotation ... i forgot [19:28] ogra, maybe if you disable the g-s-d orientation plugin entirely [19:29] but that's not enough as it needs a restart to take effect [19:29] I think a toggle in the current Display Panel would be most appropriate [19:29] yeah === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [20:59] howdy everyone [21:08] diwic: Good find. [21:08] I suspected there might be something along those lines as well. === Quintasan is now known as Huzaros === Huzaros is now known as IwanSenior === IwanSenior is now known as Quintasan === robert_ancell is now known as robert_ancell|lu === robert_ancell|lu is now known as robert_ancellafk