[18:24] <theadmin> Hi. I'm sorry if this is the wrong place, but I'd like to ask a few questions about an Ubuntu membership and /msg alis list #ubuntu* is far from helpful, this is the first place that came to mind, though.
[18:25] <theadmin> So the first question is, is this the right channel?
[18:27] <IdleOne> theadmin: it is
[18:27] <IdleOne> what questions do you have?
[18:28] <IdleOne> !membership
[18:28] <IdleOne> the above may answer some if not all of them.
[18:28] <theadmin> IdleOne: Well, first off I understand that to obtain such a membership, I need to have made significant contributions of one sort or another... The only things I made was support in #ubuntu, a few bugs reported, and a few translations on Launchpad ages ago. I'm far from sure this is enough. Any chance it is?
[18:28] <theadmin> Sorry, long typing.
[18:29] <theadmin> Been at that page already :)
[18:30] <IdleOne> contributions on irc are definitely considered, is it depends on how long you have been doing it and what your fellow channel helpers and ops have to say about it also
[18:30] <IdleOne> is it enough*
[18:31] <IdleOne> so, yes. helping in #ubuntu is one of the ways
[18:31] <theadmin> I sure hope they noticed me helping now and then, well, I've been running Ubuntu since about 2008 and been hanging in IRC asking and trying to answer questions... a bunch of that time. Not all. Not when I was on other distros
[18:32] <IdleOne> The distro you use is not as important as the quality of help given.
[18:34] <IdleOne> You may want to consider applying via the Ubuntu IRC Council if the lion share of your contributions are through IRC.
[18:35] <theadmin> Sorry, distraction here, be back in a bit
[18:35] <IdleOne> no worries
[18:39] <theadmin> IdleOne: Okay, I'm back. Sorry about that. Yeah, probably the most contributions I made would be IRC support, so the council is the best choice then?
[18:40] <pleia2> theadmin: also worth noting how important testimonials are, if someone is familiar with your work in #ubuntu you can ask them to write a testimonal on the wiki page you prepare speaking to their support of your work
[18:40] <IdleOne> the IRCC has the authority to grant Ubuntu membership, it is equal to any other of councils
[18:41] <IdleOne> theadmin: I would suggest you go via the IRCC as they would be best place and like pleia2 suggested, testimonials!
[18:41] <theadmin> pleia2: Yeah, gotta prepare the wiki page first, too. Not exactly sure how to prepare it, the "Contributions" section in the example page is... uh... nonsense for the most part.
[18:43] <IdleOne> PROTIP: Don't be shy to ask the ubuntu ops for testimonials.
[18:43] <IdleOne> We only bite a little :)
[18:43] <theadmin> IdleOne: Good point :)
[18:45] <pleia2> theadmin: yikes, the membership example template has been all messed up! looking into fixing it up
[18:46] <theadmin> pleia2: Oh, good, I thought it was supposed to be that way or something, kinda "figure it out yourself" thing
[18:47] <IdleOne> looks like someone used it as their own wiki
[18:47] <IdleOne> happens
[18:47] <pleia2> sorted
[18:47] <theadmin> IdleOne: Funny how it's marked as immutable. Wonder how someone managed to mess it up then
[18:47] <pleia2> the template is pretty sparse
[18:47] <theadmin> pleia2: Thanks, will take a look now
[18:48] <IdleOne> theadmin: must have been edited before an admin marked it or a higher level page as immutable
[18:48] <IdleOne> not sure to be honest, I suck at wiki
[18:49] <pleia2> I'm no special admin and I was able to edit it, theadmin are you sure you're logged in?
[18:49] <theadmin> pleia2: Not to be nitpicky but "your GTalt username".
[18:49] <IdleOne> fixed
[18:49] <theadmin> Yeah, huh. Odd, I'm almost certain I saw "Immutable" instead of "Edit" a few minutes ago
[18:49] <theadmin> Must be hallucinating or something
[18:50] <pleia2> theadmin: what's wrong with including Gtalk?
[18:50] <pleia2> (Ubuntu folks use Google Hangouts a lot, maybe that's why they included it?)
[18:50] <theadmin> pleia2: Nothing about it, but it's "gtalT" over there, not "gtalK"
[18:50] <pleia2> theadmin: not on my screen
[18:50] <pleia2> GTalk
[18:50] <pleia2> your GTalk username
[18:51] <theadmin> pleia2: IdleOne fixed it a few minutes ago, yep
[18:51] <pleia2> looking at this template, right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MembershipTemplate
[18:51] <pleia2> ah ok
[18:51] <IdleOne> there was a typo. I fixed it.
[18:51] <theadmin> Anyway, how should I call my wiki page, any special syntax or do I just use my launchpad name or what?
[18:51]  * IdleOne wants cookie reward now
[18:51] <pleia2> typically it's your launchpad name
[18:52]  * Fuchs force-feds IdleOne a cookie
[18:52] <IdleOne> I hate the feds!
[18:52] <theadmin> !cookie | IdleOne
[18:52] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:52] <Fuchs> IdleOne: they replacd my keyboard :(
[18:54] <theadmin> Is including a real "real name" important? I kind of hate my real name for, uh, certain 'real-life' reasons, even my Launchpad name/IRC whois info uses an alias. That won't get me declined or anything right?
[18:54] <IdleOne> you don't have to if you don't want to
[18:56] <AlanBell> lots of people who gained membership through the forums don't have a declared real name
[18:57] <Unit193> I went with a "normal" membership council and didn't inform what mine was.
[19:00] <IdleOne> real name is optional. As a membership board member I would never decline someone for wanting to have some privacy.
[19:02] <IdleOne> Fuchs: lol, so you can only use 1 e at a time?
[19:03] <theadmin> Okay then, goals... huh. This is a hard part.
[19:03] <Fuchs> yes, no double leters
[19:03] <IdleOne> Fuchs: doesn't sem to afect you much
[19:09] <theadmin> Okay then, here we go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/theadmin- -- does that look good?
[19:09] <theadmin> (the - at the end of the link is supposed to be part of it, Launchpad nickname)
[19:24] <theadmin> IdleOne, pleia2: You still around?
[19:31] <IdleOne> looks alright to me.
[19:31] <theadmin> Yay :)
[19:32] <IdleOne> if you've contributed to any of the ubuntu wiki pages you should list which.
[19:34] <theadmin> Eh... I remember modifying some awfully outdated page but can't remember which anymore
[19:41] <theadmin> Anyhow, now that that's done I should get me some testimonals and attend an IRC council meeting... Uh, the wiki says the next one is in December 2012.
[19:41] <theadmin> That's... long ago.
[19:42] <IdleOne> oh, membership also requires the invention of time travel
[19:42] <IdleOne> AlanBell: might want to update the council agenda page
[19:44] <theadmin> IdleOne: Well, I already have a microwave so all I've gotta do is hook it up to a cell-phone and find a CRT TV...
[19:44] <IdleOne> shh, if you say how to do it in here the next person will have an easier time
[19:45] <theadmin> IdleOne: You're right. El Psy Congroo.
[19:45]  * genii-around steals IdleOne's cookie
[19:46]  * IdleOne brakes genii-around's coffee pot
[19:47]  * genii-around weeps
[19:47] <IdleOne> genii-around: wanna buy a snooker table?
[19:49] <theadmin> IdleOne: Anyway, you were the one who suggested me to ask the ops for testimonals, so if you don't mind... Well, that is, if you do have something nice to say.
[19:50] <AlanBell> IdleOne: yeah, good plan :)
[19:51] <IdleOne> theadmin: I will definitely give my testimonial but not right now.
[19:51] <theadmin> IdleOne: Oh, sure thing :) It's not like I'm in a rush for this or anything
[19:52] <IdleOne> Dear people of the IRCC theadmin is mean and knows less than nothing about ubuntu.
[19:52] <IdleOne> oops!!! wrong window :P
[19:52]  * Pici makes notes
[19:52] <Pici> :P
[19:52] <IdleOne> thank you Pici
[19:53]  * Pici scribbles doodles in notebook
[19:53] <theadmin> Eh. If that was a joke, then you could add I have a fairly strange sense of humour causing me to fail to understand most jokes.
[19:57] <AlanBell> a strange sense of humour means you fit in just fine round here, IdleOne was joking :)
[19:58] <IdleOne> I was joking
[19:59] <Fuchs> he wasn't
[19:59] <IdleOne> I wasn't
[19:59] <Fuchs> he never is, sense of humour is the first thing they strip off when becoming a member,
[19:59] <Fuchs> happened to me as well
[20:00] <theadmin> Ah, I'm fine then, they won't find it :P
[20:07] <theadmin> AlanBell: No page update yet? When's the next meeting?
[20:08] <AlanBell> last sunday of the month
[20:08] <AlanBell> probably
[20:08] <AlanBell> will update later
[20:08] <theadmin> Uh, alright, I'll hang around in the meeting channel during the last week then
[20:19] <theadmin> Well, until then, for now I shall /part. Hanging around in a channel like this and idling isn't too good
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> ... really?
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> i idle here all the time... :P
[20:26] <IdleOne> You're also not any good :P
[20:27] <TheLordOfTime> i take offense to your statement, that's not the Ubuntu way to say such things!
[20:27]  * TheLordOfTime goes back to stabbing php5's source code
[20:28] <IdleOne> you are correct. I withdraw the :P
[20:28] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[20:28] <IdleOne> hehe
[20:28] <TheLordOfTime> right, i'm going to go back to poking at source code.
[20:28] <TheLordOfTime> because i don't ahve to deal with people when doing that
[20:28] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[20:28] <IdleOne> okie dokie pokie
[20:28] <TheLordOfTime> ...