[05:42] <gnomefreak> @login
[05:42] <gnomefreak> @whoami
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ok wth
[05:43] <gnomefreak> is there a reason ubot2 doesnt do @login commands or even reconize me when using @whoami?
[06:00] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: it's not ubottu
[06:03] <gnomefreak> i thought all the bots were basicly the same.
[06:11] <elky> they are, but readonly versions. starting a session requires recording the session.
[06:12] <elky> s/but readonly/but all except ubottu are readonly/
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ah ok thanks
 Is it ideal to use the actual linux terminal to write html?
[08:10] <bazhang> what?
[08:10] <Tm_T> yes
[08:10] <bazhang> like sudo nano etc etc
[08:11] <Tm_T> sudo?
[08:11] <bazhang> or gksudo gedit
[08:11] <Myrtti> vi emacs nano tidy
[08:11] <Tm_T> ^
[08:11] <Tm_T> sed
[08:11] <bazhang> so it's a "best" question
[08:11] <Tm_T> ...except sed is big nono with html
[08:12] <Myrtti> vi and emacs are involved. of course it's a best question
[08:12] <bazhang> hehe
[09:28] <lhavelund> ed.
[09:28] <lhavelund> or just, you know, pipe directly to a file.
[09:29] <lhavelund> HARD MODE
[09:34]  * gnomefreak likes nano and gedit but i wouldnt use either for HTML
[09:34] <lhavelund> vim's all I use
[09:35] <gnomefreak> i know very little about vim and even less with emacs
[09:35] <gnomefreak> but for me even screen is hard to remember everything
[09:53] <elky> lhavelund, butterflies.
[09:54] <gnomefreak> how do i get the bot to send me a link to bantracker?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> at lleast that is what it used to do
[10:09] <Myrtti> login and btlogin
[10:39] <lhavelund> elky: hellooo~
[10:43] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: thanks
[11:01] <Tm_T> lhavelund: chomp
[11:03]  * lhavelund eats Tm_T.
[15:24] <Pici> bazhang: I'd argue that #ubuntu would be the first port-of-call for a question like that
[15:25] <bazhang> Pici, a completely different network? really?
[15:25] <Pici> bazhang: They run the IRC network, they want to contact canonical about abuse of their cloud service
[15:26] <bazhang> Pici, and canonical has what to do with #ubuntu ?
[15:27] <Pici> bazhang: I just don't find it helpful to basically say 'go away' when someone asks a question like that.
[15:27] <bazhang> Pici, I never said go away. I suggested #freenode .
 therianthrope, that has nothing to do with this channel, or ubuntu support
[15:28] <Pici> Thats how I read that.
[15:28] <bazhang> that was after he said "no it's about this channel's business. My first response was #freenode
[15:28] <Pici> bazhang: sorry, I missed that ;)
[15:29] <bazhang> well it is 100% live in #ubuntu now, so that ship has sailed
[15:45] <Myrtti> freenode has nothing to do with his situation though
[17:37] <linuxman44> WHy the F* i ambanned from ubuntu channel?
[17:38] <ikonia> possibly becuse of your language
[17:38] <linuxman44> no..
[17:39] <linuxman44> i wasnt swearing..
[17:39] <IdleOne> because all you do is make random and unhelpful comments, which you were asked to stop doing.
[17:39] <ikonia> if how you have just joined this channel and started speaking is anything to go by
[17:39] <IdleOne> you chose not to stop, so i chose to stop you.
[17:39] <linuxman44> how can i stop You?
[17:40] <IdleOne> your most recent comments in #ubuntu-offtopic are perfect examples of the unhelpful nature of your comments
[17:40] <IdleOne> the ban will not be removed. Please part this channel and have a good day.
[17:40] <linuxman44> hmm
[17:40] <linuxman44> never be removed?
[17:41] <IdleOne> not anytime soon, you might want to "/msg ubottu !guidelines " to see what is expected of users in the ubuntu irc channels.
[17:41] <linuxman44> but i am about to install Ubuntu 10,04 again
[17:41] <linuxman44> :S
[17:43] <linuxman44> so you as a jesture of bringing us together, to remove the ban?
[17:43] <ikonia> linuxman44: look - you mess around in the channel, it's not welcome, do it elsewhere
[17:44] <IdleOne> better yet, stop doing it all together
[17:44] <ikonia> so please stop wasting time, come back when you want to actually use the channel without all the foolish behaviour
[17:45] <linuxman44> uhoh
[17:56] <Pici> ikonia: still around?
[17:57] <Pici> ikonia: I'm about to run to a meeting, but you might want to look at testest and Bot2HelpYou in #ubuntu
[17:57] <ikonia> just
[17:57] <ikonia> ooh, ok
[17:57] <ikonia> thanks
[18:49] <phunyguy> help if you can please, troll in #ubuntu
[21:25] <elky> ooh, wait
[21:26] <elky> i thought he was asking for people to troll #u
[21:27] <genii-around> Hehe, lack of context
[21:31] <elky> yeah, i didn't even look at the timestamp, just didn't want troll coordination here
[22:03] <ikonia> !logs
[22:03] <jimaji123> Someone please help me.
[22:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: stop
[22:04] <jimaji123> I got kicked out of the ubuntu.
[22:04] <jimaji123> For no reason.
[22:04] <jimaji123> Im telling them my problem and they refuse to help me.
[22:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: I've removed you from #ubuntu and forwarded you to #ubuntu-ops
[22:04] <ikonia> you are not using ubuntu in an acceptable way
[22:04] <jimaji123> No i asked u question, and you removed me.
[22:04] <jimaji123> I just want you to answer my problem.
[22:04] <jimaji123> So i can install stuff.
[22:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'll explain
[22:04] <jimaji123> It says Wrong Architecture i386
[22:05] <ikonia> jimaji123: STOP
[22:05] <jimaji123> And it has Error.
[22:05] <ikonia> and LISTEN
[22:05] <ikonia> jimaji123: yesterday, you joined #ubuntu asking for help as you could not download anything
[22:05] <jimaji123> omfg ikonia...
[22:05] <ikonia> LISTEN
[22:05] <jimaji123> Im not talking about that problem anymore!
[22:05] <ikonia> be quiet for a moment please
[22:05] <jimaji123> This is a new problem!
[22:05] <jimaji123> JESUS
[22:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: I've now muted you for a moment
[22:06] <ikonia> you can't speak in this channel
[22:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: you joined the channel yesterday with valid problem, you couldn't download anything from your view
[22:06] <ikonia> I spent a good ammount of time explaining to you that you where trying to open non-archive files (such as windows executables) in ubuntu archive manager.
[22:07] <ikonia> this will never work.
[22:07] <ikonia> I explained to you in detail that you needed to download the file to you hard disk, and then use the correct tool to install it depending on the application
[22:08] <ikonia> you then dropped this topic and started tryin to install wine/playonlinux/steam - approx 10 seconds after I solved you problem
[22:08] <ikonia> I/others advised you this was not a good idea, but it was your choice
[22:08] <ikonia> 3 - 4 people gave you detailed help
[22:08] <ikonia> you've now re-joined #ubuntu today asking the EXACT same questions that you had answered in detail yesterday
[22:09] <ikonia> you refuse to listen and swap and change your question everytime someone answers it
[22:09] <ikonia> I can only come to the conclusion either a.) you have some sort of attention/social disorder b.) you are trying to troll #ubuntu by just repeating the same problem over and over no matter how many times it's solved for you
[22:09] <ikonia> either one of those two situations are unacceptable
[22:10] <ikonia> so I've forwarded you out of #ubuntu to #ubuntu-ops to explain this to you
[22:10] <ikonia> I'll now remove the mute in this channel so you can talk
[22:11] <jimaji123> So with a tool i can install windows stuff? and im unmuted?
[22:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: you can now speak in this channel
[22:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: you are now unmuted we can see you
[22:11] <jimaji123> Okay.
[22:11] <jimaji123>  ikonia: I explained to you in detail that you needed to download the file to you hard disk, and then use the correct tool to install it depending on the application
[22:11] <jimaji123> So what tool do i need so i can play windows stuff
[22:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: as I explained to you yesterday - and other people did also , none as a stable solution
[22:12] <ikonia> there is wine - which will be hit and miss and in my / others opinion should not be used by you in your current level of experience
[22:12] <jimaji123> Okay.
[22:12] <jimaji123> Well, im having a problem before you muted me
[22:12] <jimaji123> I didn't get to finish
[22:12] <ikonia> this isn't a support channel
[22:12] <jimaji123> Im in the ubuntu software center and it opened steam
[22:12] <jimaji123> But it says
[22:12] <ikonia> I've brought you here to explain why you are causing a disruption in #ubuntu
[22:13] <jimaji123> Well could you please let me type what it saying please.
[22:13] <ikonia> and what you need to do to actually get value out of the channel
[22:13] <ikonia> and stop causing a disruption
[22:13] <ikonia> I am not interested in your support issue in this channel
[22:13] <jimaji123> In the ubuntu software center, it opened steam...And it says Wrong architecture i386
[22:13] <ikonia> please listen to what you are being told, this is not a support channel
[22:13] <jimaji123> Can you please foward me back to #ubuntu
[22:14] <ikonia> jimaji123: the i386 arch problem was explained to you yesterday in great detail by 2 people
[22:14] <jimaji123> yea 2 poeple
[22:14] <jimaji123> I couldn't see what each of you were saying.
[22:14] <ikonia> I suggest you read the channel logs (which I'll give you now)
[22:14] <jimaji123> Because you people never finished.
[22:14] <ikonia> rather than just asking the same question over and over again and not listening
[22:14] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[22:14] <jimaji123> How about..YOU explain it again.
[22:14] <jimaji123> Once more.
[22:14] <ikonia> let me get you the log, so you can read it in your own time without disruption
[22:14] <jimaji123> ...
[22:14] <jimaji123> Why dont you just answer me i386 problem.
[22:15] <ikonia> jimaji123: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/04/%23ubuntu.html
[22:15] <ikonia> jimaji123: I suggest you take a break from ubuntu for a short while, 24 hours, read that URL and see if you can absorb the data, rather than asking the same questions over and over
[22:15] <ikonia> as they where explained to you in that log
[22:15] <jimaji123> Omg, could you just answer my i386 problem.
[22:15] <jimaji123> And this link is not loading.
[22:16] <ikonia> if you rejoin #ubuntu-ops in 24 hours, we'll discuss removing the ban in #ubuntu so you can participate in the channel again
[22:16] <jimaji123> Ikonia please man
[22:16] <jimaji123> Im only a kid
[22:16] <ikonia> jimaji123: read the link, it has all the data you need
[22:16] <jimaji123> Please help me with my i386 problem mate please.
[22:16] <ikonia> we'll discuss this again in 24 hours,
[22:16] <jimaji123> I just told you the link is not working.
[22:16] <ikonia> I don't believe you
[22:16] <jimaji123> Im serious.
[22:17] <jimaji123> Do i have to paste you what it saysing?
[22:17] <ikonia> as this is the only link that's magically not working for you, and it just happens to contain the answers you need
[22:17] <jimaji123> If i have to, so i can make you belive me i will.
[22:17] <jimaji123> Server not found
[22:17] <jimaji123>       
[22:17] <jimaji123>       
[22:17] <jimaji123>       
[22:17] <jimaji123>       
[22:17] <jimaji123>       
[22:17] <jimaji123>         
[22:17] <jimaji123>         
[22:17] <jimaji123>           Firefox can't find the server at irclogs.ubuntu.com.
[22:17] <jimaji123>         
[22:17] <jimaji123>         
[22:17] <jimaji123>         
[22:17] <jimaji123>   Check the address for typing errors such as
[22:17] <jimaji123>     ww.example.com instead of
[22:17] <elky> if you do that, i'll prevent your flod
[22:17] <jimaji123> Sorry.
[22:17] <ikonia> jimaji123: the URL is up and resolving
[22:17] <elky> damn lag
[22:18] <ikonia> jimaji123: ok, so we'll see you in 24 hours
[22:18] <ikonia> have a read through and see how far you get
[22:18] <jimaji123> Ikonia please!
[22:18] <jimaji123> I cant wait 24hr!
[22:18] <jimaji123> Please!
[22:19] <ikonia> jimaji123: you really need to listen when people are giving you information
[22:19] <ikonia> jimaji123: if you read the information in that page you won't have to wait 24 hours
[22:19] <jimaji123> Ikonia, and your suposed to be a helper!?
[22:19] <ikonia> because you'll have the answer
[22:19] <jimaji123> I dont know why its giving me a i386 error.
[22:19] <jimaji123> And this guide sure dont say nothign about it.
[22:19] <ikonia> jimaji123: repeating the same thing won't help, start to LISTEN
[22:19] <ikonia> it's not a guide
[22:19] <ikonia> it's a log of the chat
[22:19] <ikonia> now I know you've not even looked at it
[22:19] <ikonia> so I'll end this conversation and see you in 24 hours
[22:20] <jimaji123> And your suposed to be a helper.
[22:20] <ikonia> READ the text, and rejoin in 24 hours
[22:20] <ikonia> good luck.
[22:20] <ikonia> please /part this channel
[22:20] <ikonia> see in you in 24 hours
[22:21] <jimaji123> Ikonia, im looking at it.
[22:21] <jimaji123> And it says nothing about i386 problem.
[22:21] <ikonia> jimaji123: good luck then, see you in 24 hours
[22:21] <ikonia> jimaji123: please stop trying to get our of reading it
[22:21] <ikonia> this is the problem you do not read the information
[22:21] <jimaji123> Ikonia, why cant you just help me.
[22:21] <jimaji123> Why?
[22:22] <elky> jimaji123, because you're the horse who won't drink.
[22:22] <elky> aww. stupid lag
[22:22] <jimaji123> Can someone help me with a i386 problem?
[22:23] <elky> no.
[22:23] <elky> goodbye.
[22:23] <ikonia> jimaji123: did you understand what I said to you less then 60 seconds ago ?
[22:23] <ikonia> jimaji123: about coming back in 24 hours and reading the text.
[22:23] <jimaji123> Ikonia, you said your not helping me.
[22:23] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you understand the words I've said to you
[22:23] <ikonia> yes/no
[22:23] <jimaji123> And i am reading it and it says nothing about my i386 problem.
[22:23] <ikonia> 1.) read the text 2.) rejoin this channel in 24 hours
[22:23] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you understand that, yes/no
[22:24] <jimaji123> You didn't say to rejoin in 24hr, you said 'you will see me in 24hr'
[22:24] <jimaji123> You say you will see me.
[22:24] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'll be clear then
[22:24] <jimaji123> Im not looking for you right now.
[22:24] <elky> jimaji123, we are not a support channel
[22:24] <jimaji123> I want help from someone else since your not helping me.
[22:24] <ikonia> jimaji123: 1.) please read the text - do not come back until you've read the text 2.) do not attempt to rejoin this channel for at least 24 hours
[22:24] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you now understand clearly ?
[22:25] <jimaji123> Ikonia, now your being rude.
[22:25] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you understand yes/no
[22:25] <jimaji123> And your suposed to be a helper?
[22:25] <jimaji123> Really?
[22:25] <ikonia> jimaji123: just want yes/no respond
[22:25] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you understand yes/no
[22:25] <jimaji123> yes i understand but your not telling me how to solve me i386 problem.
[22:57] <jimaji123> Can i ask a quick question?
[22:57] <jimaji123> What types of files can ubuntu download? only .deb files?
[22:57] <ikonia> no
[22:57] <ikonia> jimaji123: 24 hours
[22:57] <ikonia> starting again - now
[22:57] <jimaji123> No ikonia i figured out my problem.
[22:57] <jimaji123> I figured out my problem.
[22:57] <ikonia> that's great
[22:57] <ikonia> so see you in 24 hours
[22:57] <jimaji123> Its all my fault because i wasn't paying attention,
[22:57] <ikonia> starting now
[22:57] <ikonia> I know this
[22:58] <jimaji123> But still im not talking to you know, im talking to toher people.
[22:58] <jimaji123> Im asking what types of files can ubuntu download
[22:58] <jimaji123> Only .deb?
[22:58] <ikonia> jimaji123: 24 hours - starting now
[22:58] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you remember me telling you this wasn't a support channel, yes/no
[22:58] <jimaji123> omg, ikonia stop please.
[22:58] <jimaji123> Then foward me to a support channel then.
[22:58] <ikonia> no
[22:58] <jimaji123> Then tell me one.
[22:58] <k1l_> jimaji123: this is not a support channel. please dont missuse this channel
[22:58] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you remember the "24 hours" statement I explained to you
[22:59] <jimaji123> Ikonia why do you have to be so mean to me.
[22:59] <ikonia> jimaji123: and the bit where I said "LISTEN" to what you are being told to do
[22:59] <jimaji123> Seriously.
[22:59] <ikonia> I'm not being mean
[22:59] <jimaji123> Yes you are.
[22:59] <ikonia> you need to listen to what is being said to you
[22:59] <k1l_> jimaji123: since your behaviour was not suitable we need to calm down the situation.
[22:59] <jimaji123> Your not telling me what kind of files can ubuntu download.
[22:59] <ikonia> when you start to listen, we can look at letting you back in #ubuntu
[22:59] <jimaji123> Its just a qiuck question
[22:59] <jimaji123> Can they only dl .deb?
[22:59] <k1l_> jimaji123: so please take a 24hr break and then come back and lets talk about the ban in a calm enviroment.
[23:00] <jimaji123> Omg, fine im leaving.
[23:00] <ikonia> it's just gone up to 48 hours
[23:07] <elky> lolwat.
[23:34] <arch> hi
[23:34] <arch> can i get unbanned
[23:40] <k1l_> no. if i look into the bantracker only on january its more than enough trolling involved