[00:00] <Sosumi> and someone mentioned that it was a kernel bug
[00:00] <tomreyn> rictec: great, good luck there.
[00:00] <Sosumi> well, it wasn't,
[00:01] <Sosumi> the crash/sudden restart was happening because cpu instability
[00:02] <MartynKeigher> hey all...i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 (complete fresh install with updates) and i cant edit a text file. i dont have the option to SAVE, its greyed out. how can i full full admin rifghts to modify a file?
[00:02] <Sosumi> even through I was using the default OC profile at the my mobo's uefi
[00:02] <MartynKeigher> how can i open it as sudo su ?
[00:03] <Sosumi> bu that's it, some tweeking and matlab now runs well
[00:03] <MartynKeigher> without having to do that everytime?
[00:03] <MartynKeigher> or promote my acocunt ot sudo su?
[00:03] <linxon634> .дшые
[00:04] <tomreyn> Sosumi: glad you found a solution (but i wasn't there at the time). was it overheating? if you think it's a cpu bug and you have an intel CPU then try running this and reboot: sudo update-intel-microcode
[00:04] <rek1us> hi, can anyone answer some questions with the older version of ubuntu 10.04. I am having some wireless issues with a Lenovo thnkpad t42
[00:04] <phoenixsampras> I have unity in 64 bits, core i7, and it Sucks
[00:04] <shcherbak>  MartynKeigher sudo nano /path/to/file
[00:04] <phoenixsampras> how to speed up unity?
[00:05] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: make sure that you really know what you're doing before you edit files with sudo. you normally don't need to do this.
[00:06] <Sosumi> it wasn't overheating, just instability with the default setting provided by asus,
[00:06] <MartynKeigher> thanks & i'
[00:06] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: you definitely do not want to escalate your accounts' default authority to root. linux uses a different permission system than windows did for many years, so what you learnt there cannot be applies to linux 1 to 1
[00:06] <MartynKeigher> i'll be careful!
[00:06] <tomreyn> *applied
[00:07] <Sosumi> it's running fine now at @4,2ghz with no issues
[00:07] <blake> good evening. im having problems disabling my backlight for my laptop. i have a sony vaio vpcf236fm. ive been searching for weeks on how to disable this
[00:07] <MartynKeigher> is it in the BIOS blake?
[00:07] <shcherbak> MartynKeigher: yeats tomreyn is right, do copy of file you want to edit, just in case
[00:07] <blake> i couldnt find the option in the bios
[00:09] <MartynKeigher> im wokring on a ruby project and file i need to edit is "ok if i get wrong". if you see what i mean. i will be editing this file a lot. this is a standalone laptop with a plain ubuntu install an di know way will anything go "critaclly" wrong if i have sudo access. how can i get that access?
[00:10] <linxon634> blake good evening??? 0_o
[00:11] <blake> ?
[00:13] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: you seem to have some typos in there, can you correct those or rephrase, i'm having trouble understanding your question
[00:15] <voxadam> I want to install Ubuntu on a netbook using a USB hard drive. How do I make it bootable?
[00:16] <|Slacker|> use unetbootin
[00:16] <voxadam> Thanks.
[00:17] <shcherbak> MartynKeigher: gksudo gedit (or whatever editor)
[00:17] <MartynKeigher> got it thanks.
[00:23] <Ca11umD> I have just installed Ubuntu Server 12.10, but the overscan settings on my HD monitor are wrong (and not changable via the monitor itself). I cannot see a percent of the border of the screen. How can I correct it?
[00:26] <brightbeat> My Ubuntu 11.04 stoped updating when I run "apt-get update & apt-get upgrade" can someone help me with that?
[00:27] <|Slacker|> brightbeat, is it the lts one?
[00:28] <shcherbak> !11.04
[00:32] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | brightbeat
[00:33] <brightbeat> bazhang: thanks
[00:33] <brightbeat> shcherbak: thanks
[00:34] <t_pol> hey there i am using openbox and i need to write a script to launch the programs i usually need, however how where can i store it so that my script launches as soon as openbox is loaded?
[00:34] <JonEdney> Where can I find an .iso for the Ubuntu 12.10 alternate?
[00:34] <bazhang> !alternate | JonEdney
[00:35] <JonEdney> bazhang, thank you for that.  Is there an alternate to installing an OEM copy, for someone else's PC?
[00:35] <kunji> t_pol: Umm, you could call it from the .xprofile if it's just for one user.
[00:35] <bazhang> JonEdney, remastering one?
[00:36] <JonEdney> bazhang, installing on a laptop for a friend, I'd like to install and allow them to set up their own credentials/settings.
[00:37] <t_pol> kunji, if i store my script there will it launch as soon as openbox launches?
[00:37] <traubisoda> hi
[00:38] <kunji> t_pol: It should launch when X starts I believe, so it should be right before... my bad, you need after don't you.  I think the .bashrc file should work for you.
[00:38] <traubisoda> i have two ubuntu PCs (12.04 and 13.04), am i able to log in from one to the other PC from login screen directly to the other desktop?
[00:38] <kunji> t_pol: But I'm not very familiar with openbox
[00:38] <blake> Hello, im having issues with disabling my backlight. I have a sony vaio vpcf236fm
[00:40] <t_pol> kunji, ok i will try thanks for the tip
[00:40] <traubisoda> should i use XMBC?
[00:41] <YesMan> On Ubuntu 12.04, to permanently change the IP address I need to edit /etc/network/interfaces , correct?
[00:41] <tomreyn> JonEdney: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/oem-config-remaster should allow for creating an installation CD with OEM install capability.
[00:42] <traubisoda> YesMan i may be wrong, but i think that should be done in your router's config
[00:42] <cincinnatus> Is there an "remote desktop" application for Ubuntu that keeps the local desktop locked while the user is logged in remotely (like Remote Desktop on Windows)?
[00:43] <tomreyn> YesMan: which ip address do you want to set permanently, the one of a computer in your LAN? nice nickname btw. ;)
[00:44] <yourslave> anyone know how i can do sudo in one line shell command
[00:44] <yourslave> with password
[00:44] <yourslave> problem is my password has a special character in it
[00:44] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: i would not know one, but i'm very interested in the use case. i always understood Ms does this to make you buy more licenses, is there a serious use case to this artificial shortening?
[00:45] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: The use case is this: corporate policy requires that all desktops be locked when the employee is not at their desk
[00:45] <YesMan> traubisoda: My VPS server has venet0 with an IP address of 127.0.0.2. I want that to be 127.0.0.1. Via sudo, I edited /etc/network/interfaces (which has the IP address for venet0 as 127.0.0.2) to have an ip of 127.0.0.1. I rebooted my VPS and the ip of venet0 was 127.0.0.2. Did I edit the correct file? Or is something else changing my IP?
[00:45] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: Let's say a janitor walks by. You don't want them logging in to production system
[00:45] <cincinnatus> s
[00:46] <yourslave> how long does sudo login usually stay in effect for in ubuntu ?
[00:46] <YesMan> er sorry I meant to respond to tomreyn
[00:47] <l057c0d3r> sudo on a terminal stays active untill you close the terminal from my experience
[00:47] <l057c0d3r> but once you close the terminal and reopen it you have to re type the password on sudo
[00:47] <phunyguy> it will time out after some time, l057c0d3r, yourslave
[00:48] <atseng> who is girl here??
[00:48] <phunyguy> I dont know what the timeout is
[00:48] <yourslave> how long ?
[00:48] <yourslave> lol
[00:48] <yourslave> ok
[00:48] <yourslave>  ..
[00:48] <FloodBot1> yourslave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <VeloxAmbitum> GIYBF
[00:48] <Android62> why is ubuntu so hot
[00:48] <l057c0d3r> i see..  i guess i've never left one open long enough for it to time out..
[00:49] <l057c0d3r> Android62, hot?
[00:49] <phunyguy> I looked it up, default is 15 minutes, yourslave.
[00:49] <yourslave> i c
[00:49] <yourslave> thx
[00:49] <Android62> I mean, my computer is running at like 96 degrees
[00:49] <phoenixsampras> ubuntu is kinda bugged
[00:49] <VeloxAmbitum> that's hardware
[00:49] <shcherbak> yourslave: 5 minutes, man sudo
[00:49] <l057c0d3r> Android62, what are you using to check the temp
[00:49] <atseng> who is need phone sex with me,chat to me
[00:49] <phunyguy> !op
[00:50] <atseng> just girl only
[00:50] <lapamatop> dir
[00:50] <IdleOne> !guidelines > atseng
[00:50] <VeloxAmbitum> Linux requires very little. Either the sensor stuff is wrong, or your computer is broken (e.g. broken fan)
[00:50] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: i see. makes sense, but i don't know your solution. there are different models of VNC servers available in ubuntu, you could check those out. maybe what you need is to attach to a framebuffer.
[00:50] <phoenixsampras> lol, dating in Ubuntu... wonder what kind of girls are around... LULz
[00:51] <VeloxAmbitum> Penguin girls
[00:51] <lapamatop> @find george
[00:51] <blake> Hello. Im having issues tryin to figure out how to disable the keyboard backlight on my sony vaio vpcf236fm. ive look everywere for an answer and cant find one :(
[00:51] <l057c0d3r> i have a system monitor it has a widget as well.. and when i use it if i have it display the temp on the actual app it reads higher then it does when i just have it display the temp on mouse over....
[00:51] <IdleOne> Please stay on the topic of Ubuntu support.
[00:51] <phunyguy> !ot | phoenixsampras, VeloxAmbitum
[00:51] <kernsprog> at least you'd have something in common.
[00:51] <Android62> ubuntu is overheating my chromebook constantly
[00:51] <phoenixsampras> walrus girls, lol
[00:51] <lapamatop> PSENSOR TO CHECK TEMP
[00:51] <l057c0d3r> yet when i used command sensors in terminal it gave the same temp as the mouse over report...  so some widgets report wrong
[00:52] <phoenixsampras> ok, how to speed up Unity?
[00:52] <Android62> I havr it crash constantly due to heat.
[00:52] <cincinnatus> phoneixsampras: Do a google search for ubuntu wallpaper. You'll find lots of beautiful girls :)
[00:52] <phunyguy> I say again.
[00:52] <phunyguy> !ot | cincinnatus
[00:52] <tomreyn> YesMan: check with your hosting provider. chances are that they have fixed this ip address and you are unable to change it.
[00:52] <tomreyn> ...
[00:53] <lapamatop_> @list
[00:53] <lapamatop_> dir
[00:53] <tomreyn> !list | lapamatop_
[00:53] <lapamatop_> ty
[00:53] <lapamatop_> !list
[00:54]  * l057c0d3r palmslaps his face...
[00:54] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: VNC usually leaves the desktop unlocked by default - even on Windows
[00:54] <nronksr> For picture slideshows, what is lightweight program?
[00:54] <atseng> how to change??
[00:54] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: depends on how the server works. by default VNC is mostly a network protocol.
[01:00] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing#Operation
[01:00] <macklenc> Hey everyone, does anyone know much about gnome 3.6? My install of gnome seems to crash after it goes to the lock screen and the screen turns off...
[01:08] <phoenixsampras> what is the default openerp password?
[01:12] <aeon-ltd> phoenixsampras: try admin
[01:13] <tomreyn> https://startpage.com/do/search?q=default+openerp+password
[01:13] <jakepiano> hi i have an issue with my ethernet. it seems like ubuntu is not recognizing my network card. i'm duelbooting windows and 12.04 lts. the lights don't turn on either. what do i do?
[01:14] <phoenixsampras> jakepiano: sounds like a hardware problem
[01:14] <jakepiano> phoenixsampras yeah well i got it fixed recently. i sent it back to lenovo for them to fix it. it's working with win8 but not ubuntu
[01:15] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: network as in ethernet or network as in wireless
[01:15] <Xeon3D> ?
[01:15] <jakepiano> Xeon3D network as in ethernet. i'm connected to wireless just fine
[01:15] <Xeon3D> hmmm strange
[01:15] <Xeon3D> does it show up in a lspci -nn ?
[01:16] <phoenixsampras> jakepiano: sounds like incompatibility
[01:16] <tomreyn> jakepiano: run this and post only the resulting HTTP address here: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 Ethernet | pastebinit
[01:16] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: also, make and model of ethernet card and laptop would help a bit.
[01:17] <tomreyn> (i'm assuming you do have internet acces on ubuntu using your wireless)
[01:18] <jakepiano> tomreyn yes i do.
[01:18]  * IveBeenBit is away: Walking teh dgo.
[01:18] <jakepiano> Xeon3D its a lenovo G480 but i don't know how to find out the ethernet card
[01:18] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606571/
[01:19] <tomreyn> !away | IveBeenBit
[01:19] <jakepiano> tomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606571/
[01:19] <tomreyn> jakepiano: according to this you have an atheros AR8162 NIC on a lenovo laptop
[01:20] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050126
[01:21] <jakepiano> Xeon3D is post number 4 the one to use?
[01:22] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: 4 or 6… :P
[01:22] <jakepiano> thanks i'll try and see
[01:23] <iuri> Hi there
[01:24] <iuri> After upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 my wireless driver is gone
[01:24] <iuri> What pkg should I (RE)install
[01:24] <iuri> :
[01:24] <iuri> ?
[01:25] <tomreyn> jakepiano: run this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw
[01:25] <yourslave> anyone have any experience telneting into tor
[01:26] <yva> is there a way to know in which format a file is compressed in?
[01:26] <phunyguy> !anyone | yourslave
[01:26] <tomreyn> jakepiano: this will install additional driver modules, and this should include the "alx" module you are lacking
[01:26] <yourslave> i can't get it to authenticate
[01:27] <yourslave> has nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:27] <k1l> yourslave: better ask the tor support
[01:27] <jakepiano> tomreyn i actually just got it working. should i still install that?
[01:27] <Ramtron> Hi, I was trying to install Ubuntu on a separate partition, but it says "No root file system is defined"
[01:27] <tomreyn> jakepiano: how did you get it to work?
[01:28] <jakepiano> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050126 post number 4
[01:28] <phunyguy> !ot | yourslave
[01:28] <bravis> ./ is root must be defined on the partition you are trying to install to.  with out the dot
[01:28] <Ramtron> I typed /dev/sda
[01:28] <Ramtron> as all the others have
[01:28] <Bsims> What is a well supported 17" laptop these days?
[01:29] <Ramtron> Asus is amazing
[01:29] <phunyguy> !hcl
[01:29] <jonathan_> I have a AE1000 wireless adapter, it works fine in windows 7, but since using it in ubuntu 12.04 it disconnects alot, any ideas
[01:29] <tomreyn> jakepiano: if you only needed to flip it to ON, then no. if you also needed to download the software discussed there and do make installand modprobe, then yes
[01:29] <guideX> I know this is a little off topic, but how do I point my ubuntu 12.10 lamp apache to a website on my hard drive? I did the etc/hosts, or maybe someone knows a good link
[01:29] <Ramtron> Where is the "partitioning menu"?
[01:30] <jakepiano> tomreyn well i don't know if i needed to flip it on or not. as far as i'm concerned, the ethernet wasn't being detected at all. but now its connected
[01:30] <tomreyn> jakepiano: in the latter case you just installed some non-packaged software on ubuntu, something which should be prevented if possible, or at least be considered 2nd choice.
[01:30] <phunyguy> guidex, #ubuntu-server would probably be more helpful, it is an apache config item
[01:30] <phunyguy> ermmm
[01:31] <phunyguy> guideX ^^^
[01:31] <guideX> thanks
[01:31] <jonathan_> does that happen to anyone else
[01:31] <erwel> w
[01:31] <bravis> Sony Vaio Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz × 8  works quite nicely.
[01:31] <jakepiano> tomreyn i also just tried your command and it said the package wasn't detected
[01:31] <tomreyn> jakepiano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12206393&postcount=4 contains two boxes which are titled "code". did you need to run the command in the first box to make it work, or also the commands in the second box?
[01:32] <jakepiano> just the ones in the second box
[01:32] <EmLeX> bravis: i bet.
[01:33] <tomreyn> jakepiano: which ubuntu version?
[01:33] <jakepiano> 12.04 lts
[01:33] <phunyguy> Lenovo is good as well.  Haven't had any real issues except on the newer models with older ubuntu, but that is more intel chipset related.
[01:33] <mysteriousdaren> asus has treated me well
[01:34] <EmLeX> mysteriousdaren: i have fallen in love with viritulizing ubuntu on macbooks
[01:34] <EmLeX> then i get some real firewall power infront aswell^^ :)
[01:35] <mysteriousdaren> EmLex: well that works but I only use a vm for servers mostly, rarely ubuntu on a vm
[01:35] <Ramtron> Hi, I've figured out my problem, but now I'm wondering do I NEED a SWAP Partition?
[01:35] <phunyguy> a mac is real firewall power?  (and offtopic)
[01:35] <mysteriousdaren> EmLex: what firewall do you use? lol
[01:35] <EmLeX> phunyguy: nah.. was thinking about pfsense.
[01:35] <Ramtron> Anyone?
[01:35] <EmLeX> mysteriousdaren: pfsense viritulized infront of my viritulized buntu^^
[01:35] <phunyguy> Ramtron, depends on your specific needs
[01:36] <mysteriousdaren> Ramtron: how much ram do you need?
[01:36] <Ramtron> My needs are specifically to install ubuntu and download windows 7
[01:36] <bravis> it sure helps on certain things
[01:36] <mysteriousdaren> or have?
[01:36] <ikonia> Ramtron: anyone what ?
[01:36] <Ramtron> I have no OS
[01:36] <phunyguy> ..."Download Windows 7" ?
[01:36] <Ramtron> I have 4gb of ram
[01:36] <VeloxAmbitum> Keep no OS
[01:36] <Ramtron> I meant windows 8, and from my school website
[01:36] <phunyguy> lets stay helpful.
[01:37] <ikonia> Ramtron: is there a problem allocating a swap partition ?
[01:37] <Ramtron> No, it just recommends I use one, but I don't see a point unless you guys do
[01:37] <mysteriousdaren> i'd do it, even using a ssd with lots of ram.
[01:37] <Bsims> Ramtron: no with that much ram, I'd not bother
[01:37] <phunyguy> EmLeX, another offtopic tidbit, Endian firewall is really nice as an appliance, including in a VM
[01:38] <mysteriousdaren> depends on the person
[01:38] <Ramtron> Thanks bsims
[01:38] <ikonia> Ramtron: are you using ubuntu as a desktop, or just to download windows then remove it ?
[01:38] <ikonia> or do you plan to keep ubuntu
[01:38] <EmLeX> phunyguy: cool.. havent heard about it.. but will check it out
[01:38] <Ramtron> I want to keep the partition for future use
[01:38] <Ramtron> just in case
[01:38] <ikonia> Ramtron: then put a swap partition on
[01:38] <Ramtron> Hmm, whats the minimum size?
[01:39] <ikonia> there isn't one
[01:39] <ikonia> apply a bit of common sense/logic
[01:39] <Ramtron> Be rude more
[01:39] <ikonia> ?
[01:41] <tomreyn> jakepiano: the problem is that what you have now will break next time you update the kernel. i suggest you try runnig this: gksudo jockey-gtk
[01:41] <tomreyn> oh he's gone
[01:52] <VlanX> i have a problem with any internal sata HDD that i mount with ext4 filesystem, i get costant writes (probably journalling?) with average of 4mbps.. please advise!
[01:53] <escott> VlanX, you probably just have an application writing to the disk. check with iotop
[01:54] <VlanX> escott: already done, just formatted the drive, happened with two HDD's
[01:54] <VlanX> escott: iotop only says jbd2
[01:54] <phunyguy> I have seen ext4 freak out a few times, but a restart fixes it for me.  (It usually hard-freezes my system)
[01:54] <VlanX> w/ ext2 this doesnt happen
[01:54] <phunyguy> jbd2 is journaling IIRC
[01:54] <VlanX> phunyguy:restarted the system, nothing changed
[01:55] <phunyguy> any smart errors, VlanX?
[01:55] <VlanX> phunyguy: i thought of that, but both drives??
[01:56] <VlanX> and if i format them with ext2 this doesnt happen
[01:56] <phunyguy> what ubuntu version, VlanX?
[01:56] <bsmith093> im running ext4 quantal (12.10) with the dir_index option enabled. how many subfolders can one folder hold? within those subfolders is another folder,( generated dynamically by a script im running) that is dumping hundreds of files into it, but the biggest part of this tree, is the one folders with thousands of subfolders in it. so where is the limit of subs? currently im at 7000+ subs
[01:57] <somsip> bsmith093: ISTR you're okay with ext4. It's ext3 that has a 32,000 limit
[01:58] <VlanX> phunyguy: 12.10
[02:00] <al__> Anyone have experience installing HP8600 all in one -- in particular the scanner?
[02:00] <tomreyn> VlanX: do you also see high cpu load on the jbd process?
[02:01] <tomreyn> VlanX: also, is everything up to date, i.e. all kernel (and other) updates installed?
[02:02] <VlanX> tomreyn: i would say 5-15%
[02:02] <VlanX> tomreyn: yep, everything up to date
[02:03] <tomreyn> bsmith093: i think those limits are documented on the ext website. they should be way higher than that. still, so many entries in a single directory will slow things down. if you are able to influence the application doing this (bad programming) then make it use more levels of subdirectories.
[02:05] <tomreyn> VlanX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119742/ext4-jbd2-journaling-active-even-on-empty-filesystem#answers
[02:05] <bsmith093> tomreyn: its all text files anyway, so there just going to be compressed when its done, but thanks
[02:06] <tomreyn> VlanX: it's probably the initial formatting. if this lasts for way longer than it may be wise to disable the "extents" feature, but be sure to read up on possible issues this can introduce.
[02:07] <tomreyn> that's a an ext4 file system feature, so use tune2fs -O ^extents /dev/partitions
[02:08] <PeterFA> I want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my compute with Windows 7. However, the installer doesn't recognize my Windows partition. It just lists it as free space. How can I get it to recognize this?
[02:08] <PeterFA> Is it a driver issue?
[02:10] <VlanX> tomreyn: thanks for the link, i will read it more carefully tomorrow since now it's already 3am :)
[02:11] <howcode> how do i do multiple commands on the same line?
[02:11] <somsip> howcode: what language? Semicolon usually though...
[02:11] <VlanX> tomreyn: ok, i might want to read with more care what that feature is, thanks again for your help!
[02:12] <tomreyn> VlanX: you're welcome, and good night.
[02:14] <tomreyn> PeterFA: it may be that the windows partition is using some special partitioning / file system options which ubuntu does not yet understand.
[02:14] <entreri> hey there, I need to send files from my android smartphone to ubuntu laptop, it worked out-of-the-box with lubuntu and xubuntu but not with ubuntu... any idea why ? I don't receive pop-up in ubuntu that tells me a device wants to send a file, and it automatically fails to send the file on phone.
[02:14] <tomreyn> PeterFA: is your goal to have them boot side by side?
[02:16] <howcode> my wireless is much slower on ubuntu than on windows, does anyone know why?
[02:17] <tomreyn> howcode: did you spot what somsip responded to your other question?
[02:18] <howcode> tomreyn: yes, and it worked, sorry for not replying
[02:23] <kypor> hello all! Has cifs/samba changed in Ubuntu these days? I cannot seem to automount network shares anymore
[02:25] <entreri> hey there, I need to send files from my android smartphone to ubuntu laptop, it worked out-of-the-box with lubuntu and xubuntu but not with ubuntu... any idea why ? I don't receive pop-up in ubuntu that tells me a device wants to send a file, and it automatically fails to send the file on phone.
[02:26] <entreri> lol forgot to tell that it's bluetooth file transfer
[02:26] <tomreyn> howcode: good to hear this. so about your wireless, maybe you need to try an updated driver. please post the output of this command (copy and paste it to a terminal, including the parantheses): ( lsb_release -d; uname -a; dpkg -l linux-image | grep ^i; sudo lspci -knnv| grep -A10 Network ) | pastebinit
[02:26] <tomreyn> it should return a single internet address
[02:27] <xangua> entreri: are you using the default bluetooth applet¿
[02:28] <entreri> xangua: yes, just like I did use the default one on xubuntu and lubuntu, worked perfectly on them but not on ubuntu
[02:28] <howcode> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606700/
[02:28] <xangua> entreri: the default one never worked for me, i installed blueman and lived happily ever after
[02:29] <xangua> entreri: but i preffer to just conect my phone via usb :P
[02:29] <entreri> xangua: you know the name of the default one and the one used in xubuntu and lubuntu ?
[02:29] <entreri> xangua: because if blueman works for you, I think xu and lubuntu must use it
[02:30] <tomreyn> howcode: sorry, i have to run but this should help others help you. also make sure you install the kernel updates you are missing
[02:30] <tomreyn> you'Re not up to date
[02:31] <howcode> tomreyn: how do i do that, do you know? is it just a command?
[02:31] <MichaelP> Does ubuntu use the mkinitcpio -p command ?
[02:31] <tomreyn> run update-manager
[02:32] <howcode> ok
[02:32] <xangua> entreri: no idea how the default manager is called (it appears as bluetooth-applet in startup apps) but it doesn't even show up even when my dongle is recognized
[02:32] <entreri> xangua: and yeah, it's been so many time I use bluetooth for file transfer, internet tethering and backup that I did not even think at USB wire
[02:33] <entreri> xangua: thanks for your help
[02:34] <dydzEz2_> im installing ubuntu alongside windows 8 and followed post 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103961
[02:34] <dydzEz2_> he says turn secure boot off, as well as quick boot, but leave UEFI mode on
[02:35] <dydzEz2_> is that how it has to be even after im done installing?
[02:35] <dydzEz2_>  quick boot just skips diagonostics
[02:37] <poopballs> k
[02:41] <trage> Couple questions that I can't seem to find answers to anywhere... I grew up on windows software(no laughing) but been using linux exclusively now for almost 8 months. Having an issue on my Satellite 305D with the screen blanking after about 10 min of no input like its a power save function. I have unchecked "Dim to Save Power" and set "Turn Screen off" to NEVER. Still blanks out and I can't figure out which process is causing it. I have Tweak and Compiz Config 
[02:44] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, i am looking to know if their is some package for ubuntu server which allows a constant "remote desktop" like access to files. For example i would like to open a text file on a network computer and be able to just press ctrl+s and save it on the server without going through ftp and having to move it everytime.
[02:47] <iggy19> someone wanna help me with a surely stoopid reason I can't get cp -r to work?
[02:48] <iggy19> "cp -r /dir_one/*.jpg /dir_two/jpgs/" does not seem to recurse
[02:49] <pabst^> Is there a way to tell apt to never install jenkins from the ubuntu repository, no matter what??
[02:49] <iggy19> if a match for *.jpg is in /dir_one it will copy those files, but not anything in a subdirectory, and if *.jpg is only in a subdirectory the command will fail with "file not found"
[02:52] <somsip> !pinning | pabst^
[02:52] <abhatnag> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu12.04 on a netbook, but once the system boots into ubuntu (usb live install), neither the keyboard or the trackpad work. I have reason to believe they keyboard does not work because the hardware supports multiple langs. Can I get past this somehow?
[02:52] <somsip> pabst^: but if you have a PPA for Jenkins, it won't install the official repo version.
[02:53] <abhatnag> If I can change the locale from the boot options somehow, I would be good, but I don't know how to change the boot options in a USB install
[03:06] <jimaji123> Can someone help me please?
[03:06] <MrPockets> helloh!
[03:06] <xiambax> Wow. I did a bios update on my dell e4200 and I'm shocked with the performance increase i received.
[03:06] <abhatnag> nvm, I was using a unetbootin installer which does not give you those options, but the native ubuntu installer does
[03:06] <MrPockets> I've assigned keyboard shortcuts to VOlume up and VOlume Down
[03:06] <MrPockets> but the incriments are too large. Any idea how to adjust that?
[03:06] <jimaji123> Can someone help me please! im having a bad problem!
[03:07] <jimaji123> Anyone help me?
[03:07] <MrPockets> jimaji123,
[03:07] <MrPockets> whatsyerissue?
[03:07] <ikonia> jimaji123: you need to explain the problem rather than just saying "help"
[03:07] <somsip> !ask | jimaji123
[03:07] <jimaji123> I cant download anything
[03:07] <jimaji123> When i try to download stuff
[03:08] <somsip> MrPockets: how did you assign the shortcut?
[03:08] <MrPockets> you'll have to be more specific than that..
[03:08] <jimaji123> It open archiv
[03:08] <jimaji123> And it says
[03:08] <jimaji123> Wait let me try and dl soemthing.
[03:08] <MrPockets> somsip, in the gui, under like System > Prefs > Shortcut
[03:08] <somsip> MrPockets: there's a standard in there for 'Increase Volume'?
[03:09] <esing> hi
[03:09] <jimaji123> Okay it opens this  Archive Manager.
[03:09] <jimaji123> And it says
[03:09] <MrPockets> somsip, yeah, Sound catagory, 2nd and 2rd options
[03:09] <esing> Ubuntu's newest openjdk 7 package is up9 right?
[03:09] <MrPockets> granted I'm using 10.04 LTS
[03:09] <jimaji123> An error occured while loading this archiv
[03:09] <jimaji123> Can someone help me with that?
[03:09] <ikonia> jimaji123: sounds like an invalid archive
[03:09] <jimaji123> IIt does this it all my downloads.
[03:10] <jimaji123> I just got this today.
[03:10] <somsip> MrPockets: I don't use that gui. Here are a variety of (some very involved) fixes. One might help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/10525/how-can-i-make-the-volume-change-in-smaller-increments
[03:10] <jimaji123> I have been trying to figure this problem out for so long i got a head ace
[03:10] <ikonia> jimaji123: what are you trying to download
[03:10] <ikonia> can you give me an example please.
[03:10] <jimaji123> Im trying to download this game named toribash
[03:10] <ikonia> jimaji123: please give me the URL you are using
[03:11] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:11] <jimaji123> http://www.toribash.com/
[03:11] <jimaji123> Im download it.
[03:11] <jimaji123> But
[03:11] <somsip> esing: what version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <jimaji123> Its done now
[03:11] <jimaji123> I open it and it says
[03:11] <Jammin699> http://getpoints.info/ <- My review on the top GPT sites
[03:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: we don't need to see it
[03:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: sorry, not you
[03:11] <esing> somsip, 12.10
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: please don't post that stuff in here
[03:12] <Jammin699> http://p2s.getpoints.info/ <- the #1 GPT site on my review
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: we don't need to see it
[03:12] <jimaji123> It opens the Archive Manager, and it says An error occurred while loading the archiv
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: last warning - stop
[03:12] <jimaji123> how do i fix this!?!?
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is no linux version
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's only windows/osX
[03:12] <jimaji123> It does this with all my downloads.
[03:12] <somsip> esing: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal-updates/openjdk-7-dbg
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: then give me an example of one please.
[03:12] <Jammin699> ikonia, who are you king irc dick sucker?
[03:13] <jimaji123> i dont know, but can you just help m e?
[03:13] <jimaji123> From this happening?
[03:13] <esing> somsip, thanks
[03:13] <ikonia> jimaji123: give me an EXAMPLE
[03:13] <jimaji123> Because i know some people that have lunix and playing toribash
[03:13] <jimaji123> I have to brb ikonia.
[03:13] <ikonia> what a surprise
[03:13] <ikonia> have to go when asked for an example
[03:14] <esing> somsip, On windows it is important to have always the newest update version of java. Does Ubuntu use backported patches on jdk 7 up9 because I guess the exploits will also harm linux systems
[03:14] <esing> (There is already jdk u14)
[03:15] <somsip> esing: no idea. But do you understand that the exploits are (AFAIK) affecting browser plugins and not desktop applications?
[03:16] <tomreyn> howcode: did you get it sorted? the wireless + kernel update?
[03:17] <esing> somsip, I think the exploits will also work if you run a java file on your desktop
[03:17] <tu_> aaiutoo
[03:17] <tu_> na vita che non uso irc..che faccio?
[03:17] <tu_> ciao, intanto :=
[03:17] <ikonia> !it | tu_
[03:17] <tu_> ;)
[03:17] <esing> (But I agree the main target of java exploits is when browsing)
[03:17] <tu_> w meshuggah
[03:17] <howcode> tomreyn: i did the update, im not sure if it fixed my internet yet, havent had a cut-out yet... but it's still only showing 1/3 bars of connectivity
[03:18] <somsip> esing: this is not what I'
[03:18] <somsip> esing: this is not what I'm reading, so you will need to research more if you want a definitive answer.
[03:19] <meshuggah> hello tu_
[03:21] <esing> somsip, What are you reading?
[03:21] <FergusL> meshuggah < awesome nick :)
[03:21] <FergusL> anybody using synergy here ?
[03:22] <tomreyn> howcode: you'd need to reboot after a kernel update to apply it. other possible reasons to look into: disabling power saving features on the wireless interface, correcting an incorrectly set regulatory domain.
[03:22] <OerHeks> ikonia jimaji123 http://linux.toribash.com/
[03:23] <ikonia> OerHeks: fantastic !
[03:24] <meshuggah> FergusL: thank
[03:24] <howcode> tomreyn, i did an reboot, ill check for the power saving just to be sure.
[03:24] <OerHeks> thanks for asking jimaji123 nice game !
[03:25] <somsip> esing: it's not relevant. If you want a definitive answer to your query, you need to ask someone who knows more about how java updates are released.
[03:27] <jimaji123> Alright im back...Can you help me?
[03:27] <jimaji123> Can someone help me with this Archiv problem?
[03:27] <ikonia> jimaji123:please give an example
[03:28] <jimaji123> the toribash game.
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: asked you 3 times for an example, please give an example
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: you said it happens with others
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: give me a different example
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: there was no linux download on that page, although we have found one later
[03:28] <jimaji123> http://linux.toribash.com/
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: please give me a DIFFERENT example
[03:28] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:29] <jimaji123> Do you know what steam is?
[03:29] <jimaji123> That has games
[03:29] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm well aware of steam
[03:29] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm asking for an example of your failing download please.
[03:30] <jimaji123> Ikonia
[03:30] <jimaji123> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[03:30] <jimaji123> And looks at installation
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: that's not a download
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: PLEASE give me a link to a download that is failing
[03:30] <jimaji123> Okay, but right now im just trying to get toribash but ill find another.
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: no - I want an example that is failing
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: you said everydownload fails
[03:31] <ikonia> this should be easy to give me examples
[03:31] <jimaji123> Yes.
[03:31] <jimaji123> Okay ill gvei you one thats failing.
[03:31] <jimaji123> Hang on
[03:31] <ikonia> great, so give me an example
[03:31] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx
[03:31] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is no download on that page
[03:32] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx?CacheBuster=2%2f3%2f2013+9%3a30%3a57+PM&
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: I suspect your problem is you are trying to open files that are not archives
[03:32] <jimaji123> No.
[03:32] <jimaji123> This link, you have to login to download it.
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: so far the files you've looked at are not archives
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: that download link requires me to create an account, it's not going to happen
[03:32] <jimaji123> Ok ill tell you whats going on
[03:32] <jimaji123> When i click on any download
[03:32] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I can see what's going on
[03:33] <jimaji123> It opens the Archive Manager
[03:33] <jimaji123> Its says Open with
[03:33] <jimaji123> Then it has Archive Manager
[03:33] <ikonia> instead of clicking save to disk, you click open
[03:33] <ikonia> and these files are not archives, so it's failing
[03:33] <jimaji123> I click on Ok
[03:33] <ikonia> why are you trying to open these files with archive manager....they are not archives
[03:33] <ikonia> download them and save them to disk
[03:33] <jimaji123> Ok.
[03:34] <otherenergy> anyone is aware of any other wickness of hotmail and tamper data reset?
[03:34] <jimaji123> Wait.
[03:34] <jimaji123> Ikonia
[03:34] <ikonia> otherenergy: nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:34] <jimaji123> Want me to give you a screen shot on what it says?
[03:34] <ikonia> no
[03:34] <ikonia> I've told you the problem
[03:34] <ikonia> and the solution
[03:34] <ikonia> I don't need a screen shot
[03:34] <jimaji123> Wait
[03:34] <jimaji123> Lets start all the way over.
[03:34] <jimaji123> Okay
[03:34] <ikonia> why ?
[03:34] <jimaji123> Im download this game
[03:34] <jimaji123> From
[03:34] <ikonia> I've told you the problem and the solution
[03:34] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx?CacheBuster=2%2f3%2f2013+9%3a30%3a57+PM&
[03:34] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <otherenergy> what u mean with?  nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:35] <OerHeks> extremevelocity3d doen't have a linux installer. jimaji123
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: hotmail weaknesses are nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: this channel is for ubuntu only
[03:35] <jimaji123> So if its not archive, then i cant have it?
[03:35] <otherenergy> what channel do you recommend?
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: no idea
[03:35] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[03:36] <jimaji123> Im downloading something and it says
[03:36] <jimaji123> Im using firefox
[03:36] <jimaji123> And it says what should firefox do with this file?
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: I know what is happening
[03:36]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[03:36] <jimaji123> And i has open with Archive Manager
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: I've told you 3 times the problem....and the solution
[03:36] <jimaji123> Okay so what to do.
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: stop doing that
[03:36] <jimaji123> What to click on
[03:36] <ikonia> download it to disk - not open
[03:36] <ikonia> !away > rootpt
[03:36] <jimaji123> It dont say download to disk.
[03:36] <jimaji123> It says save file thoe.
[03:36] <ikonia> come on....
[03:37] <jimaji123> I click on save file
[03:37] <ikonia> save file = download to disk
[03:37] <ikonia> and it downloads it to disk
[03:37] <jimaji123> Now its download
[03:37] <jimaji123> Oh.
[03:37] <ikonia> great, so no problem, your downloads are working
[03:37] <jimaji123> I didn't know wjat save file.
[03:37] <jimaji123> Okay its downloading on the firefox thing
[03:37] <ikonia> as I told you 3 times, you where trying to open non-archive files with archive manager
[03:37]  * IveBeenBit is back (gone 02:19:42)
[03:37] <ikonia> !away > IveBeenBit
[03:38] <jimaji123> Well, how am i suposed to open non-archiv stuff?
[03:38] <ikonia> jimaji123: with the right tool....depending on the file type
[03:38] <jimaji123> And what does wine do?
[03:38] <timgd> I just installed lubuntu and unity booted. I thought lubuntu was supposed to use lxde?
[03:38] <ikonia> jimaji123: trys to run windows programs in linux, not something I suggest you do
[03:38] <jimaji123> Okay now Ikonia its done downloading
[03:39] <jimaji123> Now what to do now.
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: what type of file is it (what's it's extension)
[03:39] <jimaji123> Its Exe.
[03:39] <trage> LOL
[03:39] <jimaji123> Its Setup.exe
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: then you don't use it on linux
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: you use it on windows
[03:39] <jimaji123> I alternate from windows to ubuntu
[03:40] <jimaji123> Sorry, im just new to this
[03:40] <jimaji123> Okay, so how would i install steam then
[03:40] <ikonia> jimaji123: the URL you gave me earlier
[03:40] <jimaji123> yea this one
[03:40] <ikonia> jimaji123: again, not something I'd recommend you do, because it's in beta
[03:40] <jimaji123> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[03:40] <ikonia> and you don't seem to have much idea what you are doing
[03:40] <jimaji123> Whats in beta
[03:40] <jimaji123> Ubuntu?
[03:41] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam on linux
[03:41] <jimaji123> Oh.
[03:41] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is not a full set of games available, and the process is in beta and depends a lot on your hardware and linux support
[03:41] <ikonia> so it's not something I'd suggest you do
[03:41] <jimaji123> So, that means that most games are for windows than linux...
[03:41] <ikonia> correct
[03:41] <jimaji123> >=I
[03:42] <jimaji123> That means i cant play my games anymore =O
[03:42] <ikonia> use windows
[03:42] <jimaji123> Dang.
[03:42] <jimaji123> So no games are for linux?
[03:43] <timgd> jimaji123: that is false.
[03:43] <ikonia> the majority are written for windows
[03:43] <kunji> jimaji123: There are lots of games for linux
[03:43] <jimaji123> But what about the games i play =/
[03:44] <voodoomurphy> hey folks, I have a technical issue and I've looked everywhere to correct it. 12.10 fresh install (64 bit) on a HP g6 laptop. It will suspend just fine on when it's connected to AC but on battery it just sits on. The screen never dims or anything.
[03:44] <trage> jimaji123: Try googling Playonlinux... that may work for you better. Easy setup of windows games in linux. There is a list of supported games so check out their support docs to see if the one you want to play is there.
[03:44] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[03:44] <ikonia> playonlinux is just a wine wrapper
[03:44] <voodoomurphy> I have the suspend times set for 5 minutes and 30 minutes on AC.
[03:44] <ikonia> and something I'd strongly suggest you keep away from
[03:45] <kunji> jimaji123: A lot of them will work through particular versions of WINE, some have linux versions, it's not typically easy to get them running smoothly though, which is why ikonia is not recommending it.  Also running WINE would allow windows code including viruses to execute on your system.
[03:45] <jimaji123> Save file? Or open with this archiv thing
[03:45] <ikonia> jimaji123: what ?
[03:45] <GreaseMonkey> hey, i'm trying to install lubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop. i'm stuck at the "loading bootlogo" thing. the md5sum of the .iso download *IS* correct. what should i do?
[03:45] <jimaji123> ...
[03:45] <ikonia> jimaji123: what are you downloading ?
[03:45] <jimaji123> Im downloading Playonlinux
[03:45] <jimaji123> And its asking
[03:45] <jimaji123> Open with
[03:45] <ikonia> then I'nm not helping
[03:45] <jimaji123> Or save file
[03:45] <ikonia> it is a BAD idea
[03:45] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <GreaseMonkey> save file
[03:46] <ikonia> if you wnat to play windows games - use windows
[03:46] <trage> LOL.. oh jeez. Sorry. My bad.
[03:46] <GreaseMonkey> i can help
[03:46] <jimaji123> So, ikonia usually it would say either download for windows linux or mac?
[03:47] <ikonia> jimaji123: sorry - I'm helping with this
[03:47] <jimaji123> And what is PlayOnLinux anywase? It has games?
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> i suggest you just go with wine
[03:47] <ikonia> no,
[03:47] <ikonia> it does not have games
[03:47] <ikonia> I suggest you use windows to play windows games
[03:47] <ikonia> as you will not progress with any other method
[03:47] <kunji> jimaji123: I would not recommend that until you have a better idea of how your system works, but well, suit yourself.  PlayOnLinux is a wrapper that attempts to make WINE easier.
[03:47] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <jimaji123> And i have another problem ikonia.
[03:47] <jimaji123> what is wine?
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> it's an emulator to run windows programs
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> Your Mileage May Vary
[03:48] <jimaji123> How do i install wine?
[03:48] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's something I'd strongly recommend you do not do
[03:48] <jimaji123> Why?
[03:49] <jimaji123> I just wanna play games =/ im starting to fell that all my windows games are not for linux.
[03:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: because a.) it is not a platform to depend on b.) you are not capable of maintaining it at your currentl level
[03:49] <jimaji123> I just want to get games =/
[03:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: then use windows
[03:49] <GreaseMonkey> jimaji123: may i recommend rocksndiamonds
[03:49] <jimaji123> But im going to download steam
[03:49] <kunji> jimaji123: Because you clearly don't know what you're doing yet and WINE is a whole nother can of worms, it would be a miracle for you to get it working, most likely you'll waste a lot of time, make your system less secure, and maybe even make your system stop working
[03:50] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, advise your game publishers of your interest or explore linux games.  or why not both!  Wine is no guarantee.
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> if all you want to do is game, you're going to have to give up a few specifics
[03:50] <jimaji123> Okay, so how do i install steam since im on linux?
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: check if the games you want are on steam for linux first
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> you would need to either A: install wine, which is not recommended for you at your level,
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: also the steam platform is in beta
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> or B: wait for the linux version of steam to come out properly
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: and will depend on your hardwares support if it works
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: as I told you earlier
[03:50] <kunji> jimaji123: I actually haven't installed steam on linux, I've been thinking about it though, since CS 1.6 joined the Beta lineup
[03:51] <GreaseMonkey> what sorts of games do you prefer btw
[03:51] <jimaji123> I like toribash and steam
[03:51] <ikonia> steam is not a game
[03:51] <jimaji123> I usually play steam most of the time.
[03:51] <jimaji123> I kniw.
[03:51] <ikonia> steam only has a few games available on linux
[03:51] <jimaji123> Its what i get games on
[03:51] <ikonia> so again - check if the game you want is on steam for linux
[03:51] <dydzEz2_> i hate how the ubuntu drive shows up on my computer in windows 8 and if i click it, it automatically asks for a format
[03:51] <jimaji123> I usually play tf2 on steam
[03:51] <dydzEz2_> cant find a way to hide it
[03:51] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm sorry - you need to start listening to what's being said to you
[03:51] <kunji> GreaseMonkey: Do you still need WINE for it?  I thought you didn't anymore.
[03:52] <jimaji123> 'Ikonia i know.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2_, sounds like a windows 8 issue and not an ubuntu issue ...
[03:52] <jimaji123> You said that i need to see if the games support the games.
[03:52] <dydzEz2_> sorry just asking, was thinking a lot of people did dual boot with their new w8 laptop or something and had an idea in here too
[03:53] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2_, ##windows might know
[03:53] <kunji> jimaji123: If the platforms support the games, that is if each individual game has or has not been ported, TF2 I believe does have a port
[03:53] <phunyguy> If I uninstall a unity-webapp, how do I get the entry removed from the indicator-applet?
[03:53] <jimaji123> Kunji, you play steam?
[03:53] <phunyguy> even a restart didnt remove it.
[03:53] <kunji> dydzEz2_: I dual boot 8, but mine don't show up.
[03:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam is not a game !
[03:53] <jimaji123> Ikonia i know.
[03:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: so how would someone "play steam"
[03:53] <GreaseMonkey> jimaji123: may i suggest sume other games, because right now you're not going to be playing TF2.
[03:53] <jimaji123> I metn to ask him does he "have" steam
[03:54] <dydzEz2_> kunji did you dual boot in UEFI mode?
[03:54] <jimaji123> So linux dont work for tf2?
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> assaultcube is a personal favourite of mine
[03:54] <kunji> jimaji123: Nope, but I play the independent versions of some older steam games, so I may take up Steam with it coming to Linux
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you have windows on your machine ?
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> as far as you're concerned, TF2 will not work on linux
[03:54] <jimaji123> Yes i do
[03:54] <jimaji123> I have win 7 and ubuntu
[03:54] <l057c0d3r> wait what tf2 sais there is a linux version on steam's website
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: right - so to play windows games.....why will you not use windows ?
[03:54] <kunji> dydzEz2_: Nope, I stuck with regular MBR for now
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> then if you really, really want to play tf2 then go on windows
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: the games where designed for windows.....
[03:54] <jimaji123> Yes, i would
[03:55] <jimaji123> I know.
[03:55] <gabessdsp_> Trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my computer, but everytime I try to boot from the disk I get this error: "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" anybody able to help?
[03:55] <dydzEz2_> Oh alright, gotcha kunji -- one more question -- did you have to use boot repair in ubuntu?
[03:55] <kunji> jimaji123: It should work for TF2
[03:55] <ikonia> jimaji123: right ? so why is this conversation happening, you want to play windows games, use windows, you have windows, job done
[03:55] <trage> You have to diable secure boot in the "bios" in order to dual boot (or boot anything before Win8) until they finish the UEFI support for Linux that is now under dev.
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: check your boot order or something
[03:55] <l057c0d3r> and i've got it working in wine before as well.. along with skyrim
[03:55] <jimaji123> Kunji, tf2 will work for linux?
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> oh that too
[03:55] <gabessdsp_> secure boot? I'll look for it
[03:55] <jimaji123> But i want to play some games on lunix.
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> yeah turn secure boot off, that thing is cancer
[03:56] <jimaji123> I will have to see some of them old games i used to play.
[03:56] <jimaji123> They were for lunix.
[03:56] <GreaseMonkey> rocksndiamonds perhaps?
[03:56] <kunji> dydzEz2_: I did not need to, but also I know how to troubleshoot my boot manually most of the time, so I've actually never used the boot-repair.
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: why ? you don't have experience at this time, you struggle to listen to instructions,
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: if you actually want to play the game, windows is the platform you need
[03:56] <l057c0d3r> ryzome and realms online are good mmo's with native linux clients
[03:56] <gabessdsp_> any idea where it would be located? I'm looking in the boot bios menu and don't see anything called secure boot
[03:56] <jimaji123> Ikonia, im only 13
[03:56] <jimaji123> Give me a break.
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: so ?
[03:56] <trage> gabessdsp_: So you burned an ISO of Ubuntu to a CD or DVD disc?
[03:56] <ikonia> I do'nt see how age is a factor
[03:56] <jimaji123> Knoledge is.
[03:56] <ikonia> you want to play windows games, you have windows, job done
[03:56] <gabessdsp_> it's 20MB too large for a CD-R so I buirned it to a DVD-R
[03:57] <dydzEz2_> thanks for the answers kunji
[03:57] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, time to get yourself educated maybe?
[03:57] <gabessdsp_> *burned
[03:57] <kunji> jimaji123: I said it twice already, it does work for linux.
[03:57] <jimaji123> Lol.
[03:57] <Korny2> Most 13 years olds have more knowledge the 30 year olds L:/
[03:57] <jimaji123> Okay i will be installing tf2 right now.
[03:57] <jimaji123> Kunji, but how?
[03:57] <jimaji123> Look at this link
[03:57] <jimaji123> http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/?snr=1_7_suggest__13
[03:57] <grahamcracker> steam linux awesome
[03:57] <trage> And the computer you are trying to boot to has a DVD player right?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:57] <gabessdsp_> yes
[03:58] <Korny2> People still use optical media?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> fairly certain
[03:58] <jimaji123> Kunji that link does not have anything that says "linux"
[03:58] <kunji> jimaji123: You would need to use the linux binary from Steam, I know it is possible because many people have done it, I'm not one of them though, so unfortunately my usefulness ends here.  I might look it up, but you can look it up as easily as I can.
[03:58] <trage> gabessdsp_: When booting are you selecting your boot device manually or do you have a priority list set in the bios?
[03:58] <jimaji123> How do i use linux binary?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> but let's say the problem is that it can;t read DVD's and I need a CD. How can I get a version of UBUNTU 12.10 that fits on a CD-R?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> I have the priority list set in bios
[03:59] <trage> gabessdsp_:Make sure. You can't play a DVD in a CD Player. Make sure it says DVD on it.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !mini|gabessdsp_,
[03:59] <kunji> jimaji123: Some people have said they only see the link in Steam for the linux Beta if they own the game for another platform already.  But I don't even use Steam, so I'm not really the person to ask
[03:59] <gabessdsp_> it's called cdrom on the front....the other is called DVD/CD Writer
[03:59] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:59] <gabessdsp_> there is 2
[03:59] <jimaji123> Well im just downloading steam right now
[04:00] <bulletrulz> ravens WON!
[04:00] <jimaji123> YEAHHH!
[04:00] <kunji> jimaji123: This might be helpful: http://steamcommunity.com/linux
[04:00] <jimaji123> Kunji
[04:00] <trage> gabe
[04:00] <jimaji123> I am having a problem now.
[04:00] <Dorito> o_o
[04:00] <gabessdsp_> yes trage?
[04:00] <Dorito> /w/w 2
[04:00] <Dorito> oops.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, pre-emptive reminder: steam in in beta, i.e. still in development and should NOT be expected to work out of the box.
[04:00] <jimaji123> I installed steam. and now it opened ubuntu software center.
[04:00] <jimaji123> And it says
[04:00] <trage> gabessdsp_: You are trying to boot with the DVD in the DVD writer drive and that is at the top of your priority list in bios right?
[04:00] <Guest65873> I need help
[04:01] <jimaji123> It says Wrong architecture'i386'
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest65873,
[04:01] <gabessdsp_> well I have it in the cd-rom drive ebcause I don't know if the dvd/cd writer can read discs. I thought that's why it's a writer
[04:01] <xangua> gabessdsp_: a writter does both...
[04:01] <trage> gabessdsp_: Try putting it in the DVD writer drive. Think that will work out better for you.
[04:02] <gabessdsp_> oh...I feel stupid....I'll try that then. I'll be back to report...
[04:02] <trage> gabessdsp_: Goodluck and have fun.
[04:02] <kunji> jimaji123: You need the 64 bit version of Steam
[04:02] <jimaji123> Kunji, then were do i get it?
[04:02] <Guest65873> I am running ubuntu one and I cant login to the internet what i want to do is reinstall it dont have a cd or anything
[04:03] <Guest65873> reformat is what i want to do
[04:03] <kunji> jimaji123: I don't know have you tried googling yet?  We've covered that I know as little about steam as you do, so any help I'm giving is me googling and just passing on what I find to you, you could google yourself first and ask when you get stuck
[04:03] <jimaji123> Omfg, linux is hard for downloading games.
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, download the iso.  Make a bootable cd or usb  re-install
[04:03] <grahamcracker> Why do I have to buy some apps for $0.00 ???
[04:03]  * cfhowlett annnnnnnnd it begins ...
[04:03] <ikonia> jimaji123: how many times have I said to you "use windows"
[04:04] <Guest65873> how do i do that
[04:04] <jimaji123> I know, but i just wanna try a steam game on linux.
[04:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: but you are not trying
[04:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: you are just asking "what next, what now, what next, how"
[04:04]  * Korny2 is amazed how patient the helps in here are, I think 90% of the users askign questions are trolling, the questions are just odd
[04:04] <ikonia> you've not done/read anything - enough now
[04:04] <kunji> jimaji123:... you trolling?  Have you tried running commodore64 games on windows yet?  Conveniently there's emulators, but no kidding it's not something you should expect to work at all
[04:04] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, you're on the internet now, right?  get the ubuntu download page, recommend you download via torrents
[04:04] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: what are you trying to do?
[04:04] <howcode> is there a cli web browser in ubuntu?
[04:05] <ikonia> howcode: lynx
[04:05] <jimaji123> im trying to install steam first of all.
[04:05] <jimaji123> 64 bit
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> alright I put it into the DVD drive. So now I'm in my BIOS trying to make it boot from the DVD drive first. But I don't see any option anywhere that says "DVD" anything
[04:05] <jimaji123> Im trying to install steam first of all Kunji
[04:05] <jimaji123> I clicked on the about tab on steam
[04:05] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: what are the options
[04:05] <jimaji123> And it says steam has linux in beta and all that
[04:05] <GreaseMonkey> howcode: there's lynx and w3m i believe
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> THe options are:
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> woops
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> one sec
[04:05] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: just goto steam's website and download the .deb then open the deb and itll open the software center then click install
[04:05] <xangua> howcode: lynxs, elinks, something like that...wikipedia helps :)
[04:06] <jimaji123> Were is the .deb?
[04:06] <GreaseMonkey> howcode: i don't know if there are any that do javascript, i THINK elinks might
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: come on,
[04:06] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: hold on
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: if you can't even find the download, you have no chance of actually using this software
[04:06] <howcode> greasemonkey, thats ok i was only looking for one for browsing the c++ reference websites
[04:06] <jimaji123> its easy on windows
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: please start actually doing something for yourself rather than just "how, how how how how how" all the time
[04:06] <gabessdsp_> The options are: Floppy, LS120, Hard Disk, CDROM, ZIP100, USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, and LAN
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: then use windows -
[04:06] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, then use windows
[04:06] <jimaji123> i have to go
[04:06] <Guest65873> i am atr the download page but their is nothing their
[04:07] <grahamcracker> oy
[04:07] <grahamcracker> okay
[04:07] <grahamcracker> can i ask a question now lol
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: try CDROM
[04:07] <trage> gabessdsp_: My money is on LS120 but that even seems odd. Have you tried using this drive to read/write lately?
[04:07] <kunji> jimaji123: No kidding it's easy on windows, it was designed for windows from the ground up.. anyway, have you read this yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> trage: an LS120 is a special 120MB floppy disk
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> it's definitely not that.
[04:07] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> my money's on CDROM
[04:07] <trage> gabessdsp_: Just wondering if it is hooked up to the motherboard.
[04:08] <trage> DVD writers usually have *DVD* in the name somewhere.
[04:08] <grahamcracker> just wondering, why do I have to pay $0.00 for some apps on Ubuntu Software Center?  Is it a glitch?
[04:08] <gabessdsp_> that's what I had before but that points to the CDROm drive which I now have unplugged. But anyway...I will try the LS120. And no I recently collected this computer from a friend as a donation towards and experimental render farm project
[04:08] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: it is NOT the LS120
[04:08] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, not a glitch
[04:09] <trage> gabessdsp_: Do you have the data cable plugged into the mobo? If so is it a ribbon or sata plug?
[04:09] <Guest65873> nothing is happen when i try to open
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> It's all ribbon/IDE
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> no SATA
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> it's old from 2002
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> HP Pavilion 700
[04:09] <grahamcracker> cfhowlett so i have to put all my credit card info to be able to download?
[04:09] <trage> gabessdsp_: do you have a dedicated ribbon for the dvd drive?
[04:09] <tonsofpcs> LS120? hmmm
[04:10] <gabessdsp_> Yes there is a ribbon for the dvd drive, and a separate one ofr the hDD
[04:10] <gabessdsp_> *for
[04:10] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, I don't think so since $0 cost, but I've never bought anything through USC.  Try and checkout and see if the Pay Now option demands your info ...
[04:10] <tonsofpcs> gabessdsp_: does the BIOS detect the DVD drive as a CD drive?
[04:10] <trage> gabessdsp_: Right, but what I'm asking is > Is it the same ribbon used for the DVD drive used also on the CD drive... if so you have to set the jumpers correctly for the mobo to see it.
[04:11] <trage> gabessdsp_: or just connect JUST the DVD drive to the mobo.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, download save the torrent.  open transmission (torrent manager) and add the torrent.  Start download.  go have a coffee .
[04:11] <gabessdsp_> originally there was a robbon for the CDROm, and DVD Writer, and another for the FLOPPY and HDD, but I disconnected the FLOPPY, and also disconnected the CDROm now
[04:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. When even no program is running the laptop is very hot and the fan is working loudly. Is it common? Should I do something?
[04:11] <thomedy> please please please help
[04:11] <trage> gabessdsp_: I would make sure the jumpers are set correctly anyways. If its on its own ribbon by itself you can set it to Master or CS (cable Select).
[04:12] <mojtaba> Any suggestion is highly appreciated.
[04:12] <mojtaba> Any idea?
[04:12] <trage> mojtaba: Check for proprietary video drivers.
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !details|thomedy,
[04:12] <thomedy> i have a  a lamp install and i idid it at xampp for linux... and when i started it i found that i had a webserver running already so istopped that an dhtne it said ihad a webserver with ssl running already so i followed the steps at the ubuntu website and now ican start it
[04:13] <thomedy> but i cant get localhost/xampp
[04:13] <JokesOnYou77> hi all, can anyone recommend a good XFCE theme for a Large screen like a TV?  Something with large text and icons?
[04:13] <mojtaba> trage: From where should I check that?
[04:13] <gabessdsp_> there is a part that says master on the ribbon and a part that says slave. I have the master part plugged into the drive. What's this about jumpers though?
[04:13] <thomedy> sorry that was a lot to type
[04:13] <cfhowlett> thomedy, this might be worth submitting on #ubuntu=server
[04:13] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[04:13] <thomedy> ? is that a room
[04:13] <cfhowlett> thomedy, yes
[04:13] <thomedy> okay thanaks
[04:14] <gabessdsp_> so what about jumpers? Not sure if you saw my last message or not
[04:14] <Guest65873> not working
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, details help ...
[04:15] <mojtaba> How can I check for the proprietary video driver?
[04:15] <Guest65873> so how all my browers are gone for some reason i was able to login to this chat
[04:15] <gabessdsp_> traje?
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> I mena trage
[04:16] <Guest65873> this is the only internet brower i have
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> *ment
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, you've got weird stuff happening then.  Did you download the torrent seed?
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> ugh cannot type today
[04:16] <trage> mojtaba: Software Sources in the dash... then click Additional Drivers tab.
[04:16] <MoPac> Anybody here have advanced experience with Ubuntu LUKS and/or Linux-ified Truecrypt? Want dual boot with shared files. Wondering about mounting LUKS system volume with FOTFE in Win or mounting Truecrypt Win system volume from within Ubuntu
[04:16] <thomedy> i just want to start fresh but i read so many tutorials i dont even know what was right or wrong or what on e i was doing at the time to get this error
[04:16] <gmachine_24> I have a back up file, call it backup.tar.gz; how do I untar that to a drive that has been formatted and mount at /mount/tarhere
[04:17] <jessemuffin> Hi everyone! New Ubuntu user here.
[04:17] <Guest65873> i cant do it and dont know where it would be for me to do this
[04:17] <gmachine_24> *and mounted
[04:17] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, greetings
[04:17] <gmachine_24> jessemuffin, what's up?
[04:17] <jessemuffin> used to run Ubuntu on my old solid state EEE pc
[04:17] <trage> gabessdsp_: Look at the back of the DVD drive next to where you plugin the ribbon. There should be 4-5 pairs of pins that can be jumped. Do you see a jumper?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, try lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:18] <jessemuffin> Well I dont have that EEE pc anymore
[04:18] <jessemuffin> haha
[04:18] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, moth are designed for older and lower spec machines ... like the EEE
[04:18] <jessemuffin> I had a customized ubuntu of somesort on it
[04:18] <jessemuffin> netbookuntu or something
[04:18] <gabessdsp_> trage: I see a white thing. It's kind compact so I have to take the drive out to actually do anything to it
[04:18] <gabessdsp_> but it's on some pins
[04:19] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, netbook edition no doubt
[04:19] <jessemuffin> Think so
[04:19] <guideX> how do I add a deb repository to my ubuntu
[04:19] <mojtaba> trage: There is just one and it is for my wireless
[04:19] <cfhowlett> !repo|guideX,
[04:19] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, so what's the issue today?
[04:20] <guideX> but what's the command
[04:20] <trage> gabessdsp_: You have to take the drive out to identify WHAT setting the drive is on. It is usually easily identified by initials under the pins or a pin diagram on the manufacturers product label. I would set to CS or cable select.
[04:20] <jessemuffin> Hmm, wanted to see if anyone has gotten the game "League of Legends" to work on ubuntu
[04:20] <guideX> these docs give me a lot to read, but no actual command
[04:20] <gabessdsp_> trage: doing that now...one sec
[04:20] <cfhowlett> guideX, this is to add a PPA is it?
[04:21] <guideX> ug i'm just trying to download something
[04:21] <guideX> how do you do it
[04:21] <cfhowlett> guideX, sudo apt-get install foo.deb
[04:21] <Guest65873> so you cant help me
[04:21] <trage> mojtaba: Then my friend, you have the same problem I have. You probably have an ATI mobile chipset running with a AMD processor. They do get warm and the getting legacy drivers to work on them is like pulling teeth in the dark on a balance beam hovering over a bed of sharp spikes.
[04:22] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: any problem can be solved with enough patience. hang in there
[04:22] <mojtaba> trage: I hvae ATI mobile chipset with the Intel processor. :(
[04:22] <guideX> hmm I have a file like this... zend.deb.repo
[04:22] <guideX> and inside it has "deb <url> parameter"
[04:22] <grahamcracker> cfhowlett it never asked for payment, all is well
[04:23] <mojtaba> trage: Isn't there anyway to fix it?
[04:23] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, good to know.  Have fun, be safe
[04:24] <trage> mojtaba: Well than you are better off than me. I would reccommend making sure you have the latest bios updates for your box. Aside from custom building a driver for your chipset or trying to get an unsupported one to work would be a shot in the dark.
[04:24] <guideX> when I do sudo apt-get install zend.deb.repo I get "cannot find any package by regex" or somehting
[04:24] <cfhowlett> guideX, .deb is a deb package.  .repo is something else.
[04:24] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: do you have access to the synaptic package manager?
[04:25] <guideX> oh
[04:25] <cfhowlett> guideX, does the download site provide install guidance?
[04:25] <MoPac> Anybody here dual-boot with Windows and have full-disk encryption (or know about such things)?
[04:25] <Guest65873> not sure
[04:25] <guideX> yeah the file says to type 'install_sz.sh
[04:25] <guideX> but when I do it says command not found
[04:25] <jessemuffin> I dual-boot with windows but i used some program called WUBI to do it. Probably bad on my part
[04:26] <guideX> then I found all these repositories, I guess for different types of linux
[04:26] <guideX> it's the zend framework..
[04:26] <gabessdsp_> alright trage: I finally pulled out the drive. THe jumper is already set to something called CSEL, but ther is another option for MASTER or SLAVE
[04:26] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: tell us your situation.  do you have ubuntu booted now? what are you seeing on your screen?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, wubi is a testing environment for ubuntu and should not be considered a long-term installation method.
[04:26] <gmachine_24> I have a system back up file, call it backup.tar.gz; how do I untar that to a drive that has been formatted and mounted at /mount/tarhere. I want to extract the tarred files and copy them to /mount/here (which is a hard drive partition /dev/sdc1) so I can boot the system from /dev/sdc1 the next time? (I am going to remove the current drive where Ubuntu is installed). Thanks.
[04:26] <Guest65873> yes it is booted now
[04:27] <pepee> anyone using fglrx from xorg-edgers ppa?
[04:27] <jessemuffin> Okay i'll keep that in mind
[04:27] <trage> gabessdsp_: CSEL is fine. examine the pins on both the mobo and the drive to make sure there aren't any bent or broken pins.
[04:27] <jessemuffin> Would it run faster if i did it properly?
[04:27] <Guest65873> but no acess to the browers
[04:27] <kunji> jessemuffing: WUBI isn't bad, it won't be as efficient though as a full normal install.  It mounts the system as a loopback device I think, if you google it it's not too hard to find the details of how it works.
[04:28] <kunji> *muffin
[04:28] <Guest65873> where would i find the synaptic package
[04:28] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, properly meaning a regular dual boot?  probably.  You could also install virtualbox and test things in that.
[04:28] <gabessdsp_> tage: alright. Nothing is bent or broken. But f I'm supposed to be using CSEL then what's next in this error?
[04:28] <kunji> jessemuffin: I would expect it to be a bit faster, but not a lot in most cases
[04:28] <trage> gabessdsp_: Is there a jumper connecting the 2 pins for CSEL?
[04:29] <jessemuffin> Alright, i just wanted something to get away with windows, a new perspective
[04:29] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873:  can you click on the button on your task bar that says "Dash Home"?
[04:29] <gabessdsp_> trage: yes a little white jumper connecting both pins
[04:30] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, install virtualbox in windows.  install as many different ubuntus as you like in virtualbox.  When you find a flavor you prefer, install a dualboot
[04:30] <Guest65873> no
[04:30] <trage> gabessdsp_: Some newer drives required a special ribbon cable. These special cables have at least one blue plug. Do you have one of those cables?
[04:30] <jessemuffin> Well I've used Virtualbox before :-) I like Ubuntu. I guess I should properly install a dual boot Ubuntu instead of using Wubi.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, that is not normal functioning and leads me to suspect your boot iso is malformed.
[04:30] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: then on your keyboard press Control Alt and the T button
[04:31] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone recommend a good XFCE theme/tweak for a Large screen, like running an HTPC? Something with large text and big icons?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, not hard to do.
[04:31] <jessemuffin> I have a 4g memory card, could i use that?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, aren't there such in the Accessibility menu?
[04:31] <gabessdsp_> trage: ummmm this is all old back from 2002. But the plugs are black and grey
[04:32] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: when you do Ctrl Alt T does your terminal pop up?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, nvrmnd, I just looked.  Not there.
[04:32] <Guest65873> yes
[04:32] <Guest65873> gotit
[04:32] <Guest65873> purple screen
[04:32] <JokesOnYou77> cfhowlett, yeah.  And I',, looking for something preferably designed with an HTPC in mind
[04:33] <anonymousraptr> in the terminal type "synaptic-pkexec"
[04:33] <Queen`Bee> JokesOnYou77,  have you tried xbmc?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, +1 xbmc
[04:34] <Korny2> xbmc if its just for media....
[04:34] <Korny2> mythtv for dvr + media!
[04:34] <Queen`Bee> i thought myth was out of dev
[04:34] <trage> gabessdsp_: Well here is where we are at. Your mobo doesn't seem to be seeing the drive. The only three possibilities I see is left is 1) The IDE port is disabled in the bios... unlikely but possible. 2) Your drive doesn't like your cable... try taking the ribbon cable from the hdd and hooking it up to the DVD. or lastly 3) The drive is dead and won't work no matter what.
[04:34] <Guest65873> now what do i do
[04:34] <JokesOnYou77> Queen`Bee, I love XBMC and I use it regularly.  But I'm looking for something that will theme XFCE for example so that I can use it to easily navigate when I'm not actually using XBMC
[04:34] <Korny2> Not at all Queen`Bee  where did you hear that?
[04:35] <Queen`Bee> ubuntutv site several months back
[04:35] <jessemuffin> What's the best way to install Ubuntu on my windows 7 pc as a dual boot
[04:35] <gabessdsp_> trage: hmmm, alright. Well I'll go through all of those, I'll also try the drive (now that it's out) on my main computer. THank you so much for your help!
[04:35] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, www.xfce-look.org
[04:35] <phunyguy> Mythbuntu is out of dev maybe
[04:35] <JokesOnYou77> XBMC doesn't have a built in browser and no Netfilx support in Linux, So I need somethign that will let me see some text from across the room while I'm using the browser
[04:35] <Korny2> nope
[04:35] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: in the search area at the top type in Firefox
[04:35] <trage> gabessdsp_: No prob. Good luck.
[04:35] <Korny2> Mythbuntun repo is plenty active
[04:35] <gabessdsp_> trage: Thanks!
[04:35] <Korny2> I get updates every couple of days
[04:35] <Queen`Bee> your right, i was thinking of mythbuntu
[04:36] <phunyguy> Korny2, mythbuntu uses ubuntu repos
[04:36] <phunyguy> so of course you get updates
[04:36] <JokesOnYou77> I'm actually asking about XFCE themes because I'm using MythTV and it runs XFCE I just can't read the text with the default theme
[04:36] <Guest65873> it is saying not compatable
[04:36] <Korny2> mythbuntu has its own repo for fixes
[04:36] <JokesOnYou77> Sorry, not MythTV, Mythbuntu
[04:37] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, last link I sent has all kinds of xfce eye candy
[04:37] <Korny2> its the reverese ubuntu uses mythbuntu repos :P
[04:37] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[04:37] <phunyguy> well mythbuntu didn't come out with a 12.10 version.
[04:37] <Korny2> Last I reado n mythbuntu is they were going to be not releaseing non LTS builds
[04:37] <JokesOnYou77> cfhowlett, yeah, I was browsing there for about 20 minutes before I came to ask for suggestions.
[04:37] <Korny2> sigh I can't type today
[04:38] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it seems like you have some serious issues. you will likely need to boot using LiveCD or LiveUSB.
[04:38] <jessemuffin> What's the best way to install Ubuntu on my windows 7 pc as a dual boot
[04:38] <phunyguy> ahh, ok, well I don't know, just playing devil's advocate
[04:38] <Korny2> They are only releases on LTS because mythtv is more of an appliance
[04:38] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, full circle then ... but that probably is the best lresourcee for eyecandy
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|jessemuffin,
[04:38] <JokesOnYou77> phunyguy, Actually I'm running a Mythbuntu 12.04.1 LiveCD right now
[04:38] <jessemuffin> TYY
[04:38] <Korny2> I'll be honest though  I haven't been to the mythbuntu page in a few months so my info may be incorrect
[04:38] <trage> Guest65873: Are you installing from the 32bit or 64bit Live Cd?
[04:38] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it would be best if i turned your problem over to one of the expert level guys here. i can only help with pretty basic stuff
[04:42] <mojtaba> hi
[04:42] <phunyguy> ho mojtaba
[04:42] <phunyguy> hi**
[04:42] <mojtaba> How can I custom build a driver?
[04:42] <Guest65873> well for some reason i got google open dont know how but it is their and now it is asking for me to download a flash player dont know what to do now
[04:42] <mojtaba> phunyguy: hi
[04:42] <phunyguy> mojtaba, as in compile one from source?
[04:42] <phunyguy> or write one?
[04:42] <mojtaba> I have ATI mobile chipset with intel processor
[04:43] <mojtaba> my laptop is very hot, even when no program is running
[04:43] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have installed ubuntu recently on it.
[04:43] <Guest65873> which one do i select
[04:43] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do you want to write a driver, or build one from source?
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I guess build from source.
[04:44] <phunyguy> well ATI is closed source, mojtaba so you are probably using the open source community driver
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I just want to solve my current problem actually
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I am not sure, but maybe.
[04:44] <mojtaba> actually I have switched to linux recently
[04:44] <phunyguy> either way, what version of Ubuntu?
[04:45] <trage> Guest65873: Depends on what version Win your computer came with. If youc can still boot into your Win7 Install, right click on My Computer and select Properties from the flyy out menu. The window that opens from there will tell you Something like Windows 7 Home Prem 64.
[04:45] <mojtaba> phunyguy: 12.10
[04:45] <phunyguy> did you get a message saying restricted drivers were available?
[04:45] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it is hard to figure out where you are. if you can't find the Dash Home button which is ubuntu's most regularly used button, then you have bigger problems then installing flash
[04:45] <Guest65873> ok now which one do i pick
[04:45] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have installed restricted drivers
[04:45] <trage> Guest65873: If you don't see a 64bit anywhere, then you need the 32bit version.
[04:46] <Guest65873> let me see
[04:46] <phunyguy> mojtaba, so it just runs hot? no actual issues?
[04:46] <phunyguy> are you sure it is due to graphics?
[04:46] <trage> Whoops.. wrong guest. Damn tabbed autocomplete
[04:46] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I am not sure, but it is very hot and the fan is always working.
[04:47] <phunyguy> mojtaba, you may have an issue with processor stepping
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: someone in this chatroom told me, may be it is because of the graphic card
[04:47] <Guest65873> i see alot but dont know which one to pick
[04:47] <phunyguy> err throttling
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: would please let me know what should I do?
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: because I am pretty new to linux era.
[04:47] <Guest65873> i am at the parent dir
[04:47] <mojtaba> :D
[04:47] <phunyguy> I would bet that with the restricted drivers, that your issue isn't graphics related, and I have had problems in the past with intel chipsets and processor throttling.
[04:47] <dr_willis> mojtaba:   use the addational-drivers tool to see if theres ati drivers suggested for your card.
[04:48] <mojtaba> dr_willis: How should I use it?
[04:48] <phunyguy> for example, with this laptop on 12.04, when I plug the laptop in, it throttles to 1200MHz, and when I unplug it, it puts the laptop at full speed.  Seems backwards.
[04:48] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  you run it.. and click on the driver it suggests....
[04:48] <phunyguy> mojtaba, how is your battery life?
[04:48] <dr_willis> in 12.10 its under the software-sources tool tabs
[04:48] <phunyguy> dr_willis, he said he already did that
[04:49] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I mean how should I run it, because I have installed it before.
[04:49] <mojtaba> phunyguy: It is pretty shorter than windows unfortunately.
[04:49] <phunyguy> mojtaba, then that is your issue most likely
[04:49] <dr_willis> if you instyalled them and rebooted.. double check that they are in use.. if you still ahve issues.. then its most likely not a video driuver pssue then
[04:50] <dr_willis> unless you got some wonky dual-gpu video card setup... then well.. I dont use those.
[04:50] <phunyguy> mojtaba, please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[04:50] <dr_willis> sounds more like an apci/powersaveing/bios bug
[04:50] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I have checked the additional driver in the software resources and saw there was just something for my wireless driver, nothing else
[04:50] <phunyguy> that is my thought dr_willis
[04:50] <Senjai> What java package should I install?
[04:50] <dr_willis> !java | Senjai
[04:50] <dr_willis> Senjai:  whatever one you want/need. ;)
[04:50] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok
[04:51] <Guest65873> my computer was windows vista till they completly got rid of it so i dont have acess to it
[04:52] <phunyguy> Guest65873, to make it easier to identify you, please change your nick with the /nick command  (/nick newnickname)
[04:52] <trage> Guest65873: Then most likely you are going to need to download the 32bit Ubuntu Live Disk Installer. That really should work anyways.
[04:52] <mojtaba> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606897/
[04:52] <phunyguy> there are 11 folks in here with the Guest##### username
[04:53] <Senjai> thank you dr_willis
[04:53] <phunyguy> mojtaba, you have one core that is running at full tilt
[04:53] <phunyguy> do you have a process that is spiking the CPU on you?
[04:53] <Guest65873> so help me do that
[04:53] <mojtaba> phunyguy: what do you mean by spiking?
[04:53] <phunyguy> using 100%
[04:54] <Guest65873> and i dont know how to change my name
[04:54] <phunyguy> !nick
[04:54] <trage> Guest65873: Type "/nick yournicknamehere" without the quotes.
[04:54] <dr_willis>  Guest65873, to make it easier to identify you, please change your nick with the /nick command  (/nick newnickname)
[04:54] <phunyguy> hmmm.... use that /nick command
[04:54] <mojtaba> phunyguy: At the moment I am running virtual machine
[04:55] <dr_willis>  use /nick Bill_Gates  :)
[04:55] <phunyguy> mojtaba, Windows VM?
[04:55] <mojtaba> VB
[04:55] <mojtaba> Is there Windows VM available for linux?
[04:55] <phunyguy> mojtaba, is it Windows in VB
[04:55] <mojtaba> phunyguy: yes
[04:55] <dr_willis> !vbox | mojtaba
[04:55] <osirisx11> hi all, is there a way to make 100% volume be able to go up above 100% without going into the sound manager?
[04:56] <phunyguy> mojtaba, then that may be what is hitting your CPU hard
[04:56] <osirisx11> (make 100% act like 120% or something)
[04:56] <phunyguy> try shutting down the VM for a while to see if it cools down.
[04:56] <osirisx11> i have some nice headphones that really need an amp but i don't want to spring for one right now
[04:56] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok, meanwhile how can I update my BIOS?
[04:56] <phunyguy> mojtaba, that may be beyond the scope of this channel, try in ##hardware
[04:57] <CalicoJack> hello everyone. quick question: if i install ubuntu on a machine, and then later add a hard drive and install windows on that hard drive, will GRUB automatically detect the windows drive or will i need to reinstall?
[04:57] <phunyguy> CalicoJack, you will just need to add a grub entry for the Windows install
[04:57] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, you'd need to update grub for it to see any changes
[04:57] <thomedy> okay i have my lamp install started but when i go to the broswer and hit localhost/xampp
[04:57] <thomedy> i get nothing
[04:57] <thomedy> it doesn't have a page
[04:57] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Haven't you do that before? Because actually in the website of the laptop manufacturer they provide an exe file to check the BIOS version under windows os.
[04:57] <Guest65873> my problem is not my nickname right now i need to fix the computer can you please tell me what version to download of the ubuntu
[04:58] <phunyguy> mojtaba, again, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[04:58] <thomedy> setting upa mailserver turned out to be a sucky idea
[04:58] <CalicoJack> cfhowlett is that something i can do from the command line? something easy?
[04:58] <phunyguy> the vendor will provide a CD ISO or the like to boot from/
[04:58] <phunyguy> but you need to contact the laptop maker for that
[04:58] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, sudo-update grub is the command iirc.
[04:58] <cfhowlett> !grub|CalicoJack,
[04:59] <CalicoJack> cfhowlett nice thank you
[04:59] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, have fun, be safe
[04:59] <dr_willis> Guest65873:  when in doubt use the 32bit desktop version - it should run on the most hardware
[04:59] <phunyguy> mojtaba, did the laptop cool down?
[04:59] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I closed the VB, but still the fan is working with max speed.
[04:59] <mojtaba> phunyguy: no. :(
[04:59] <trage> Guest65873: Go to the Ubuntu Download Desktop page and make sure the 32bit installer is selected... then click on Get Ubuntu 12.10 button.
[05:00] <dr_willis> Guest65873:  12.04 32bit would be the safest bet.
[05:00] <phunyguy> please paste your cat /proc/cpuinfo again to see what it looks like
[05:00] <dr_willis> if you got older hardware.
[05:00] <mojtaba> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606915/
[05:01] <thomedy> oh god i really need help now
[05:01] <thomedy> i love doing this stuff but i hate doing it when i dont know what im doing
[05:01] <phunyguy> hmmm give it a few more moments mojtaba
[05:01] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok
[05:01] <phunyguy> is this a fairly new laptop/
[05:01] <phunyguy> ?
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Actually It is Dell Studio 1555
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I guess 2 years old
[05:02] <phunyguy> hmmm... and you get nothing for ATI restricted drivers...
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: no
[05:03] <mojtaba> phunyguy: how can I check that again?
[05:03] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do you know how to disable the ATI video in the bios?
[05:03] <phunyguy> and use onboard?
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hi ubuntu?
[05:03] <phunyguy> I'm curious to see if it does the same thing then
[05:03] <phunyguy> Hi Harlingen
[05:03] <arussel> I have start up script in my /etc/init.d, if I had the line: su -m ubuntu -c "exec touch /tmp/ubuntutest"
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, greetings
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hi phunyguy
[05:03] <arussel> then I end up with the file ubuntutest in /tmp
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hello Cfhowlett
[05:04] <mojtaba> phunyguy: actually I have not seen such possibility in BIOS
[05:04] <Harlingen> I'm installing ubuntu desktop at the moment.
[05:04] <arussel> if I had the line: su -m tomcat7 -c "exec touch /tmp/tomcat7test", I don't, any idea why ?
[05:04] <Harlingen> It seems to be a .zip file.
[05:04] <Harlingen> I'd like to burn it to a DVD.
[05:04] <Harlingen> So that I may make it bootable for CD-ROM on this blank laptop.
[05:04] <phunyguy> Harlingen, then open the iso you downloaded with burning software and not an archive app
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !unetbootin|Harlingen,
[05:04] <Guest65873> what am i suppose to look for when i go to the page because their is alot of diffrent kinds
[05:05] <Harlingen> Thanks
[05:05] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, he wants to burn, not USB
[05:05] <Harlingen> Okay, like nero correct?
[05:05] <trage> Guest65873: Go to the Ubuntu Download Desktop page and make sure the 32bit installer is selected... then click on Get Ubuntu 12.10 button.
[05:05] <Guest65873> can you copy a link where i can just click
[05:05] <phunyguy> Harlingen, are you in Windows?
[05:05]  * cfhowlett facesmack into the window
[05:05] <mojtaba> phunyguy: How can I do that?
[05:05] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do what?
[05:05] <Harlingen> At this moment phuny? Yes my Step brother wants ubuntu on his laptop that apparently has a already reformatted partition.
[05:05] <trage> Guest65873: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[05:06] <phunyguy> Harlingen, then learn how to burn an ISO
[05:06] <mojtaba> phunyguy: phunyguy: mojtaba, do you know how to disable the ATI video in the bios?
[05:06] <Harlingen> It's a blank Laptop with no OS on it currently.
[05:06] <Harlingen> I'm guessing it'd be easier using usb?
[05:06] <phunyguy> mojtaba, that would be laptop specific, I was just curious if you knew about the option
[05:06] <Queen`Bee> if you have windows7 all you have to do to burn an .ISO is double click to open it then click burn
[05:06] <Harlingen> I have a 4gb usb here.
[05:06] <Harlingen> Would that work easier?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, forgive me for previous bad intel.
[05:06] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have not seen such possibility in the BIOS.
[05:07] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, not necessarily, the file-associations could be changed with something like winrar
[05:07] <Harlingen> It's okay I understand how it's like having a noob ask retarded questions.
[05:07] <Harlingen> I'm just trying to my best not to annoy you fine gents.
[05:07] <thomedy> please help.. i just want my server back
[05:07] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Do you know something I could do?
[05:07] <phunyguy> Harlingen, you are better off just looking up how to burn an ISO in Windows, with something like Nero, and then come back if you have issues installing Ubuntu]
[05:07] <Harlingen> Hmm..
[05:08] <phunyguy> mojtaba, unfortunately no.
[05:08] <Queen`Bee> winrar doesnt associate to .iso by default. thats something a user would do,
[05:08] <mojtaba> phunyguy: actually at the moment just I have terminal and pidgin running, but the fan is blowing up.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, or make a boot USB ...
[05:08] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, yes it does.  Fact.
[05:08] <Harlingen> Thank you cfhowlett.
[05:08] <Harlingen> That would be much easier I assume.
[05:08] <Harlingen> Third party program would be requried to do so right?
[05:08] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do to cool down my laptop?
[05:08] <Queen`Bee> since what version? winrar leaves that checkbox unchecked last i installed
[05:08] <phunyguy> !unetbootin | Harlingen
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, yes, unetbootin is a fine example
[05:09] <Guest65873> ok i am their now what should i pick
[05:09] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, don't know, but its been a while.  He may have an old version
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> it never did
[05:09] <Guest65873> open with or save file
[05:09] <trage> Guest65873: The one that says (reccommended)
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> save
[05:09] <phunyguy> and even if not, a simple "select all" would do it
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> save file. if you are using windows and want to boot from USB: this is best: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxliveusb.com%2Fen%2Fdownload&ei=ckIPUczjCof-iQLQ64HwBQ&usg=AFQjCNEVClXlrB5WeGBp9m7qNXrEh10UOA&bvm=bv.41867550,d.cGE
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> ...
[05:10] <FloodBot1> Queen`Bee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[05:10] <Guest65873> it said save
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> thanx google.
[05:10] <Harlingen> Queen bee?
[05:10] <Harlingen> Lili seems pretty cool.
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> lili is the best
[05:11] <Harlingen> Awesome
[05:11] <Harlingen> So I download ubuntu then I use lili to put the file unto is to use as " Bootable usb "
[05:11] <Queen`Bee> yes
[05:11] <Queen`Bee> simple
[05:11] <Harlingen> I have a 4gb usb stick is that enough?
[05:11] <phunyguy> yes
[05:12] <Harlingen> Beautiful.
[05:12] <Harlingen> Thanks guys
[05:12] <Harlingen> You all rock.
[05:12] <Harlingen> Also, winXP and ubuntu...
[05:13] <Harlingen> Should I make the switch coming from an HP Mini?
[05:13] <Queen`Bee> thats not something i can answer for you
[05:13] <phunyguy> Harlingen, depends on your needs
[05:13] <Queen`Bee> as far as security is concerned, XP is dead your better off with any linux
[05:13] <Harlingen> I see
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, for a mini?  try lubuntu or xubuntu.  both are optimized for low spec and older machines.
[05:14] <Harlingen> Nice
[05:14] <phunyguy> Xubuntu would probably be ideal
[05:14] <Queen`Bee> xubuntu is my fav
[05:14] <Harlingen> Yea, Its been using winXP for 3years.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> xubuntu is the foundation for ubuntustudio
[05:14] <Harlingen> I love it but for some reason it's hell booting up you know?
[05:14] <Queen`Bee> Ubuntu Studio is actually better but requires more hard drive space
[05:14] <Harlingen> Lol
[05:15] <thomedy> okay... i just did it myself... but can i say all that crap online is a waiste... isound angrier than i really am
[05:15] <thomedy> but a simple series of ps -e  | grep "thing i need" worked fine
[05:15] <phunyguy> btw Queen`Bee, I am installing wine to test your theory on winrar  ;)
[05:16] <Guest65873> ok so now what do i do
[05:16] <Queen`Bee> i've been using winrar since the 90s and .iso has never been checked by default
[05:16] <phunyguy> we will see.
[05:17] <Harlingen> I still love winXP.
[05:17] <Harlingen> :P
[05:17] <Queen`Bee> i loved it since its beta days but going back to it... its like going back to WinME
[05:17] <Harlingen> Really?
[05:18] <trage> Guest65873: Did you download the ISO?
[05:18] <Harlingen> I've seen programs for Ubuntu the only thing that turned me off was it had an " App Store "
[05:18] <Harlingen> You also had to use " Wine " for windows programs.
[05:18] <Harlingen> Which is fine I know thats not it's intended purpose.
[05:18] <Harlingen> I just really wish I knew what the OS was for.. mainly.
[05:18] <Queen`Bee> if you use any desktop manager becides the default one called "unity" that amazon stuff is not present
[05:19] <Guest65873> i belive so
[05:19] <Queen`Bee> oh the software center
[05:19] <Harlingen> I mean...
[05:19] <Queen`Bee> well the software center (or app store) makes things A LOT easier
[05:19] <trage> Guest65873: And you are currently using Windows Vista?
[05:19] <Harlingen> Windows is for hackers and is easily hacked into etc.
[05:20] <Harlingen> iOS is for people who just want to chill out or something.
[05:20] <Guest65873> i wish i was
[05:20] <phunyguy> Lets keep this on-topic
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !ot please
[05:20] <Harlingen> I'm I off topic?
[05:20] <Queen`Bee> yes
[05:20] <Harlingen> Sorry, I just want to know the difference between the 3.
[05:21] <Harlingen> Sparking up conversation thats all.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, best we have that talk in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel please
[05:21]  * Queen`Bee invites to Harlingen  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <Harlingen> I think I've over stayed my welcome.
[05:21] <Harlingen> Thanks guys for the help
[05:22] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, I am afraid you are wrong
[05:22]  * Harlingen shakes Queen Bee's Hand.
[05:22] <phunyguy> :)
[05:22] <Queen`Bee> whiat version?
[05:22] <trage> Guest65873: Okay, what OS are you currently using?
[05:22] <phunyguy> 4.11
[05:22] <Queen`Bee> i guess i never made it that far
[05:23] <phunyguy> http://i.imgur.com/WfPnAkq.png
[05:23] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, it has been like this for YEARS.
[05:23] <Queen`Bee> i believe ya
[05:23] <phunyguy> so that is why I said, it was something like WinRAR that is opening the ISO
[05:24] <Guest65873> ubuntu one
[05:24] <trage> Guest65873: What kind of computer?
[05:24] <Guest65873> dell inspiron 1520
[05:25] <Guest65873> it had windows vista
[05:28] <trage> Guest65873: Okay little confused... I was under the impression that Ubuntu One was a cloud based storage solution... not an OS like Windows or Ubuntu or MAC OSX. From here you need to burn your ISO that you downloaded to a disk and then boot from the disk. Once you get to that point the Installer will walk you through the rest of the way. If you don't know how to burn an ISO or boot from a disk there are lots of resources and walk throughs online you can google
[05:28] <guideX> Windows Vista :)
[05:29] <cfhowlett> trage, ubuntu one is similar to dropbox not an OS
[05:29] <guideX> I used it before the beta's were out, when it was still called longhorn
[05:29] <trage> cfhowlett: Thats what I thought. When i asked Guest65873 what OS they are currently running they told me Ubuntu One. I scratched my head.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> trage, :_)
[05:31] <Guest65873> lol
[05:31] <trage> :)
[05:32] <Guest65873> i am so lost what i want to do is just get my computer running
[05:32] <guideX> I was where you are now two days ago Guest65873
[05:32] <jab416171> Guest65873: try strapping it to a horse
[05:32] <guideX> when my copy of ubuntu 11.04 exploded
[05:32] <Guest65873> lol
[05:33] <jab416171> :)
[05:33] <guideX> Guest it's not running?
[05:33] <trage> Guest65873: Then I suggest you take it to a professional if you want it done quickly or you can stumble through it like the reest of us did while we actually learned how our computers worked.
[05:33] <guideX> how are you here now
[05:33] <Guest65873> i will stumble if their is someone to pick me up
[05:34] <trage> Guest65873: Good question. If it doesn't work, are you using a different computer to download?
[05:34] <guideX> is it very slow?
[05:34] <Guest65873> no i am on the one with all the problems
[05:35] <Guest65873> where do i go to download the iso can you copy the link for me
[05:35] <trage> Guest65873: We are here to pick you up, but you have to catch up on some basics and there are many good tuts out there already. Just focus on one step at a time 1) Get ISO to disc 2) Boot from disc. Google "How to <insert goal here>" and you will be surprised what you can learn.
[05:36] <Queen`Bee> when you turn it on, what do you see? windows? ubuntu? it would really help to know what platform so we can properly guide you. dont wanna suggest windows apps and proceedures if your not using windows
[05:36] <Guest65873> ubuntu
[05:37] <trage> Confused* Must be passed my bed time. Good luck.
[05:37] <guideX> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc <- link for iso
[05:38] <guideX> i'm not sure if you can just go there like that but..
[05:38] <Queen`Bee> worked for me
[05:38] <Queen`Bee> save the file to your downloads folder
[05:39] <M4573R> .
[05:39] <M4573R> hi
[05:40] <Queen`Bee> hi
[05:40] <M4573R> :)
[05:40] <M4573R> hi queen
[05:40] <M4573R> i love ubuntu
[05:40] <cfhowlett> M4573R, greetings
[05:40] <M4573R> i love free world
[05:41] <cfhowlett> M4573R, this is the support channel.  What can we help with?
[05:41] <guideX> Guest65873: if you're in windows, you can use Virtual CloneDrive
[05:41] <thomedy> okay... i hhas anyone seen the new security concept from linux xampp
[05:41] <phunyguy> !ot | M4573R
[05:41] <M4573R> i have some questions....
[05:41] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  im not following
[05:41] <phunyguy> !ask | M4573R
[05:41] <cfhowlett> M4573R, ask.  with details
[05:42] <thomedy> well i have set up a new install of xampp for windows and while i realize thats not supported by ubuntu that doesn't mean someone doesn't knkow a fix for the new security concept that wont give me access
[05:42] <guideX> how do I make the scroll wheel on my mouse work?
[05:42] <phunyguy> thomedy, no.
[05:42] <guideX> it doesn't work in ubuntu 12.10
[05:42] <thomedy> i ahve done to google tuts and neither of them did anything and i did restart my lamp
[05:42] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  try in #windows   #ubuntu cant fix windows issues
[05:43] <Queen`Bee> im running xampp in 12.10 right now and it works beatifully
[05:43] <thomedy> yeah but im running linux thats i knwo stupid how im doing
[05:43] <thomedy> it
[05:43]  * phunyguy is confused
[05:43] <thomedy> is it a new xampp well it would have to be
[05:43] <thomedy> damn.. im getting irritated
[05:43] <thomedy> okay
[05:43] <phunyguy> what is your exact issue
[05:43] <cfhowlett> thomedy, slow down, relax and breathe.  Attitude counts
[05:43] <Guest65873> well now i cant find google
[05:44] <Guest65873> can someone give me the link
[05:44] <guideX> try yahoo.com, and type google
[05:44] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  have you tried xampp's officiasl support channel?  #apachefriends
[05:44] <thomedy> well i have xampp up.. it took a bit of work after i jacked up my original xampp install trying to creatre a mail server or however i would describe that
[05:44] <ubuntu518> 有说中文的朋友吗
[05:44] <Guest65873> i have no browser
[05:44] <cfhowlett> !cn|ubuntu518,
[05:44] <Guest65873> just this chat
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:44] <jab416171> try http://74.125.225.192
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, go there.  download and save the iso.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, no google required
[05:45] <Queen`Bee> guest, you have a browser. this is the .ISO link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:45] <thomedy> now i have it again and its saying they have a new security concept for phpmyadmin and it has to be local.. i am local however and i tried 2 seperate fixes google sent me to with  no effect and i did restart xampp
[05:45] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you have been provided the link at least 5 times in the last hour. im starting to think you are just giving support a hard time.
[05:45] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, I think he means something crashed
[05:45] <Ben64> thomedy: but this is on windows?
[05:45] <thomedy> nope linux
[05:45] <thomedy> 12.04 ubuntu
[05:45] <Ben64> cause you said windows earlier
[05:45] <thomedy> i didn't mean to if i did im sorry
[05:46] <jab416171> Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on www.ubuntu.com. Content from www.qcksrv.com, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page. Visiting this page now is very likely to infect your computer with malware.
[05:46] <phunyguy> yeah he did hence my "/me is confused"
[05:46] <thomedy> i hate windows im not sure how windows got in my brain
[05:46] <jab416171> why does chrome hate ubuntu.com
 well i have set up a new install of xampp for windows....
[05:46] <Guest65873> no i am not
[05:46] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  have you tried xampp's officiasl support channel?  #apachefriends
[05:46] <thomedy> im in there right now
[05:46] <Queen`Bee> k
[05:46] <thomedy> but its not that popular
[05:46] <Guest65873> giving you a hard time i swear
[05:46] <cfhowlett> jab416171, google chrome doesn't block ubuntu by default ...
[05:47] <thomedy> im trying to get a portfolio in of my webdevelopment and i am up for 2 major jobs in almost 6 figs a year
[05:47] <Guest65873> i you can get into my computer and fix it for me i will allow you to do so
[05:47] <thomedy> i just need to finish my portfolio and send it to the 2nd company in nyc
[05:47] <guideX> i'm at the ubuntu site right now and it's not poping up that message
[05:47] <phunyguy> Guest65873, then you won't learn nothin
[05:47] <jab416171> cfhowlett: not ubuntu.com, but that link
[05:47] <jab416171>  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:48] <cfhowlett> jab416171, sounds like a security setting to me as it's blocking the download
[05:48] <jab416171> I don't have any settings afaik
[05:48] <Brewmaster619> that link works for me in Chrome
[05:48] <phunyguy> is there a "proceed anyway" button, jab416171 ?
[05:48] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: support can not do that. you will have to click the link provided and then take the time to patiently read the instructions on the page. there is no easy way around your problem.
[05:48] <jab416171> yeah phunyguy
[05:49] <Brewmaster619> <and starts the download>
[05:49] <Queen`Bee> Guest65873 you want to download the 32bit .ISO
[05:49] <Guest65873> yes
[05:49] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: that's weird
[05:49] <jab416171> http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qcksrv.com%2Fsupport%2Fwww%2Fdelivery%2Fafr.php%3Fzoneid%3D35%26refresh%3D110%26cb%3D1359956956898%26beacon%3Da35aba04%26n%3Da56aab52&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US
[05:50] <Guest65873> i copy the link and pasted it into the search area on top of this page and nothing happen
[05:50] <cfhowlett> jab416171, qckserv.com is the problem not ubuntu
[05:50] <jab416171> I know
[05:50] <jab416171> but my browser thinks qckserv has inserted content on ubuntu.com
[05:50] <phunyguy> Guest65873, did you hit ENTER?
[05:50] <phunyguy> ><
[05:50] <cfhowlett> jab416171, ahh, well then ..
[05:50] <Guest65873> lol yes i did come on
[05:51] <phunyguy> hey, with how things are going, I had to be sure.
[05:51] <Guest65873> I am dumb but not that much
[05:51] <Brewmaster619> I know the dumb iso server at my hotel is blocking me from downloading anything from Adobe (i.e. my outdated flash), nothing I can do about it
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, there it is...
[05:53] <Brewmaster619> fortunately ubuntu isn't blocked...I don't know why they would block Adobe.
[05:53] <phunyguy> So I have a question again, I installed the gmail unity-webapp thing, and then removed it, but the icon is still in the indicator-applet envelope.  Even after a restart, it remains.  How do I remove it?
[05:54] <ubuntu> has any1 installed KOHA library management system ?
[05:54] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: there is a strong possibility that you simply cannot do what you want to do from your current computer. do you have access to any other computer? friends? relatives? maybe tomorrow?
[05:55] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: phunyguy: cfhowlett: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chrome/3iqUPO8SYQc
[05:55] <Guest65873> yes i do my iphone
[05:55] <phunyguy> iphone will not help
[05:55] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you cannot use an iphone
[05:55]  * cfhowlett Thinks downloading ubuntu iso on iphone might not be the best way to go ...
[05:56] <phunyguy> !anyone | ubuntu
[05:56] <Brewmaster619> Thanks.  That's weird
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, I'm on internet in China.  You ain't seen weird yet ...
[05:56] <Guest65873> well then i guess i have fallen and no one can pick me up i will try again in the morning
[05:56] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you will need access to a pc or laptop with windows, mac osx, or a linux distribution like ubuntu
[05:56] <jab416171> yeah, looks like about an hour ago a ton of chrome users started seeing it
[05:57] <Brewmaster619> maybe try a different browser?
[05:57]  * phunyguy thinks google chrome is unsupported here
[05:57] <Guest65873> how can i reload my vista and get rid of ubuntu
[05:57] <guideX> there's still different browsers?!
[05:57] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: that is already fully functioning with no known problems
[05:57] <guideX> .. other than chrome?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !browser|guideX,
[05:57] <phunyguy> guideX?
[05:58] <guideX> yep
[05:58] <phunyguy> google chrome is a third party browser, and not in the repos
[05:58] <phunyguy> chromium is supported
[05:58]  * jab416171 is on windows
[05:58] <jab416171> lol
[05:58] <Brewmaster619> I haven't used a terminal browser in years...probably fast, at least.
[05:58] <Guest65873> see the problem is i cant find my browser for some reason it is not on my list just this chat is their
[05:59] <phunyguy> jab416171, well then you get nothing  :)
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, start browser from a terminal
[05:59] <jab416171> nothing? lol
[05:59] <jab416171> you mean no support?
[05:59] <phunyguy> definitely not for chrome on windows
[05:59]  * cfhowlett phunyguy, it's "You get NOTHING!"
[05:59] <phunyguy> nevermind just chrome
[06:00] <Guest65873> how do you get to the terminal
[06:00] <jab416171> I wasn't really asking for support, was just puzzled why my browser started telling me ubuntu.com was malicious
[06:00] <phunyguy> Guest65873, are you in a ubuntu OS?
[06:00] <jab416171> Guest65873: ctrl + alt + T
[06:00] <Guest65873> ok then type in what
[06:00] <phunyguy> Guest65873, firefox &
[06:00] <anonymousraptr> cfhowlett: i walked him through getting to the terminal almost 3 hours ago. Guest65873 is going in circles.
[06:01] <Brewmaster619> Just remember, if someone tells you ctrl-alt-F1, that ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back :-)
[06:01] <Guest65873> i sure am
[06:01] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, noted
[06:01] <Guest65873> her
[06:01] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, your browser if probably firefox.  type that in the terminal to start it.
[06:01] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: you can also do chvt 7
[06:02] <Guest65873> no it was google chrome
[06:02] <Brewmaster619> chvt 7?
[06:02] <jab416171> "change to virtual terminal 7"
[06:02] <jab416171> same as ctrl+alt+7
[06:02] <Brewmaster619> thanks. learn something new every day
[06:02] <Guest65873> i did that
[06:03] <jab416171> yeah, learned it from this post: http://superuser.com/questions/545329/blank-screen-if-kids-yell-too-much
[06:03] <Guest65873> then i type in firefox google and nothing happen
[06:03] <Brewmaster619> I've gotten stuck in tty1 before...took me a long time to figure out how to get out of it...easy when you know how.
[06:03] <jab416171> Guest65873: are you connected to the internet?
[06:03] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you are not currently using the ubuntu operating system are you?
[06:03] <Guest65873> yes i am
[06:03] <jab416171> yeah Brewmaster619 the first time I did it I was so confused
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, firefox google? of COURSE that won't work.   NO such program.
[06:03] <jab416171> cfhowlett: he typed in "google" into firefox
[06:03] <phunyguy> Guest65873, we are losing hope
[06:03] <guideX> is there a program like sql yog or ms management studio for linux? where you can manage your mysql server and create new db's (in a ui)?
[06:04] <Guest65873> it looks that way
[06:04] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you cant be. google chrome is not loaded onto ubuntu.
[06:04] <jab416171> Guest65873: in a terminal, type in "dig google.com"
[06:04] <Guest65873> I guess its going to cost me 100.00 to fix the computer
[06:04] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, not by default.
[06:04] <jab416171> Guest65873: what do you get?
[06:05] <anonymousraptr> cfhowlett: at his current user level (unable to find the Dash Home button or even the toolbar) it is beyond his level to have installed chrome. something is fishy here.
[06:06] <phunyguy> guilt isnt allowed here, Guest65873
[06:06] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, *sniff*  Yep.  Doesn't pass the smell test.
[06:06] <Guest65873> ok well that one worked dig google.com\
[06:06] <Brewmaster619> My Unity isn't working either...had to change the login to Gnome
[06:06] <jab416171> Guest65873: what was the output?
[06:06] <Brewmaster619> Let me guess, you're only using Chrome becasue there's a shortcut on your desktop
[06:07] <Guest65873> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> google.com
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; global options: +cmd
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; Got answer:
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17153
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 11, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[06:07] <FloodBot1> Guest65873: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
[06:07] <tomreyn_> guideX: mysql-workbench
[06:07] <jab416171> ...
[06:08] <Brewmaster619> uh oh floodbotted
[06:08] <jab416171> Guest65873: just the answer line
[06:09] <jab416171> google.com some.ip.address
[06:09] <Abhijit> hello. any ofbiz user?
[06:09] <tomreyn> jab416171:  you want +short
[06:09] <phunyguy> I am guessing he was trolling a little
[06:10] <jab416171> tomreyn: "+short"? not "--short"?
[06:10] <anonymousraptr> jab416171: he is either working in another os, or his OS is messed up or he is trolling.
[06:10] <tomreyn> jab416171: + is correct
[06:10] <Brewmaster619> Guest65873: If you are having the sameME, and hopefully that will work better for you.
[06:10] <jab416171> does the bot do man pages?
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> same problem as me.
[06:11] <thomedy> crap on my chest and tell R-Kelly that toook way too much time away from my actuall progress but i got it...
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> I don't know that you do, but ....
[06:11] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: what's your problem?
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> I think I messed up my nvidia drivers
[06:11] <jab416171> I messed up my ATI drivers :(
[06:12] <jab416171> there's a watermark in the bottom right of my screen that says "AMD Unsupported Hardware"
[06:12] <dr_willis> jab416171:  youa re using the beta drivers...
[06:12] <dr_willis> removeing the watermark is mentioned at askubuntu.com
[06:12] <jab416171> dr_willis: am I?
[06:12] <dr_willis> thats the only time ieve ever seen someone see that watermark
[06:13] <jab416171> hmm
[06:13] <Brewmaster619> Unity doesn't work...launcher, etc
[06:13] <jab416171> I don't think I said "install the beta drivers"
[06:13] <Guest65873> i quit have a good nite all sorry if i bother you all I just dont understand this ubuntu i have to get rid of it some how\
[06:13] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=ati%20watermark
[06:13] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: what's the issue you're having? I just walked in.
[06:13] <Guest65873> alot
[06:14] <Guest65873> i cant find my browser
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: Are you having issues with doing things in Ubuntu, or issues with hardware and things not working?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> PatrickDickey, troll suspect
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> !ubuntu-manual | Guest65873 this may get you going
[06:14] <Guest65873> doing thing in ubuntu
[06:14] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, he can't figure out how to get a browser working, or go to ubuntu.com
[06:14] <Guest65873> hardware is good
[06:14] <Brewmaster619> Chrome is blocking Ubuntu for him..apparently he's not the only one, and he can't find Firefox
[06:14] <Queen`Bee> i dont know how he could have things so messed up if its not already installed
[06:14] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74537/amd-unsupported-software-message-in-the-right-corner/74798#74798
[06:15] <Guest65873> i dont have the cd to reinstall it
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> !manual | Guest65873 this may get you going
[06:15] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, that would be useful for him if he could figure out how to open a link
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: Are you running ubuntu right now?
[06:15] <Guest65873> see when i click on the link nothing happens
[06:15] <anonymousraptr> Is there a moderator on the channel?
[06:15] <Gumby> Guest65873: press alt+f2 and then type in firefox
[06:16] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, they can be called in emergencies ...
[06:16] <jab416171> PatrickDickey: he's been in here for over 2 hours
[06:16] <Brewmaster619> Quenn'Bee: Oh, you can mess it up bad alright :-)
[06:16] <Gumby> Guest65873: right click the link and choose "Open link in browser"
[06:16] <Queen`Bee> Guest65873,  go to ubuntu.com, click download. you want to download the 32bit .iso
[06:16] <Brewmaster619> pardon me, Queen'Bee
[06:16] <Guest65873> yes that is what using
[06:16] <jab416171> Guest65873: you could use lynx or wget
[06:16] <jab416171> and then dd to put it on a flash drive or a CD
[06:17] <Brewmaster619> lynx isn't installed by default..correct me if I'm wrong
[06:17] <phunyguy> it's not
[06:17] <Gumby> wget is
[06:17] <jab416171> you're correct
[06:17] <Guest65873> good nite
[06:17] <Queen`Bee> we gave him a direct link to the .ISO and chrome is blocking it. he needs to manually navigate to ubuntu.com, go to the download page and select 32bit .ISO
[06:17] <phunyguy> good night.
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, good nighht
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: or use an alternate browser
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: or wget
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: he's been given options, he chooses not to listen
[06:17] <phunyguy>  /headdesk
[06:18] <Queen`Bee> unity was too confusing to find firefox apparently and wget is scary and confusing if you dont know linux
[06:18] <jab416171> scary? lol
[06:18] <Gumby> and pressing ctrl+f2 and typing "firefox" is too difficult as well?
[06:18] <Gumby> sorry, alt+f2
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: You could always try opening a terminal (CTRL+ALT+T) and type sudo apt-get install firefox If it says it's already at the latest version, then you can type firefox & and it should open it.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> he left.
[06:19] <tomreyn> he did find xchat, though
[06:19] <Gumby> heh
[06:19] <Brewmaster619> I think he hosed his video drivers, and that's why he couldn't find unity.
[06:19] <jab416171> was he using xchat?
[06:19] <tomreyn> yes
[06:20] <Gumby> are you sure?
[06:20] <jab416171> that's not installed by default, right?
[06:20] <Gumby> he'd have to made his name "guest"
[06:20] <jab416171> no, his name was mike
[06:20] <jab416171> nickserv made it guest
[06:20] <Gumby> ah
[06:21] <Queen`Bee> i agree with however told him to take it to some one who knows what they are doing.
[06:21] <Queen`Bee> whoever*
[06:22] <Queen`Bee> being unable to navigate ubuntu.com is a sign they need more help than we can give
[06:23] <anonymousraptr> i think guest65873 was trolling
[06:23] <Brewmaster619> he had the right link; I went to it with my Chrome, and immediately started downloading the iso.
[06:23] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: he found the link? or someone gave it to him?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, same same and moving on ...
[06:24] <Brewmaster619> jawohl
[06:24] <jab416171> cfhowlett: how long until you gave up?
[06:24] <jab416171> I saw you were the first to help
[06:24] <cfhowlett> jab416171, 30 minutes.  I'm generally pretty patient plus I'm multi-tasking ...
[06:24] <jab416171> not bad
[06:25] <ClientAlive> first time I ever had a computer with a blue ray player in it. I try to play the disc in VLC and I get the following: ""
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Blu-Ray error:
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Your system AACS decoding library does not work. Missing keys?
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Your input can't be opened:
[06:25] <ClientAlive> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'bluray:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[06:25] <FloodBot1> ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <dr_willis> !blueray
[06:25] <dr_willis> You have to do special stuff to play BR in ubuntu
[06:26] <anonymousraptr> the whole channel had been trying to help him since 10:22PM cst and he just kept going in the same circles
[06:26] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: ok. Will I find the answer at those links? What exactly should I look for there?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, at minimum, you'll want ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  theres some extra stuff you got to instal is all i recall.
[06:26] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:26] <ClientAlive> I'll look at those links and fire up synaptic
[06:26] <ClientAlive> thx  :)
[06:27] <dr_willis> first google hit for 'ubuntu blueray' =  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-get-encrypted-blu-rays-working.html
[06:27] <dr_willis> thats using a special vlc ppa it seems..
[06:28] <dr_willis> For Ubuntu 12.10 and newer, you only need to run the last command above
[06:28] <dr_willis> which says -->   sudo apt-get install vlc libaacs0 libbluray-bdj libbluray1
[06:28] <Brewmaster619> I've nevr had a bluray..maybe sometime.  any troubel with tem, other than non-free formats?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> we are not installing bluray players by default?
[06:30] <dr_willis> I can think of otehr defaults i need more then a BR player
[06:31] <Queen`Bee> blueray uses nonfree codec
[06:31] <gnomefreak> libbluray1 is default
[06:31] <gnomefreak> you can install non-free apps during install
[06:33] <gnomefreak> what is SpaceFM?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !info spacefm
[06:33] <dr_willis> dont sound familer to me
[06:34] <dr_willis> SpaceFM is a multi-panel tabbed file and desktop manager for Linux with built-in VFS, udev- or HAL-based device manager,
[06:34] <dr_willis> http://ignorantguru.github.com/spacefm/
[06:34] <gnomefreak> me neither but im reading an article that mentions it while talking about gtk3
[06:35] <gnomefreak> im reading one of his rants right now
[06:35] <gnomefreak> http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
[06:36] <dr_willis> looks like a file manager that comes on the gparted live cd..
[06:36] <PatrickDickey> I'd say if ubuntu detects a blue-ray drive, then it should install the codecs (if you chose to install non-free ones). Otherwise not.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:36] <anonymousraptr> is there a terminal that is transparent the way that the default term in backtrack 5 is transparent?
[06:37] <Queen`Bee> you can configure it to be tansparent
[06:37] <Queen`Bee> edit -> prefs -> appearance
[06:37] <dr_willis> most of the terminal apps can have a transparany option..
[06:37] <dr_willis> compiz can make ANY window transparent.. ;) with the right plugin
[06:37] <makara-> hi. I can't get to the OK button on a dialog in Avidemux. Is there any way of shrinking the window, or maybe dragging it past the top of the desktop. If I right-click the titlebar > move, I can drag it past the left, right and bottom, but not up.
[06:38] <dr_willis> Nothing to do with any backtrack 'features' '_
[06:38] <gnomefreak> anonymousraptr: i use gnome-terminal and i can change the setting for transparent
[06:38] <Queen`Bee> makara-,  press alt+spacebar and select move
[06:38] <dr_willis> makara-:  hold alt key. click anywhere. drag...
[06:38] <makara-> dr_willis, yes!
[06:39] <dr_willis> or check the  work space switcher.. and  you can drag it across 2  workspaces and have the extra buttons on the 2nd workspace
[06:39] <makara-> both
[06:39] <dr_willis> you can move thingsd in the workspace switcher also
[06:39] <dr_willis> people over look that feature
[06:39] <Queen`Bee> i forget about it
[06:39] <makara-> dr_willis, I thought it was CTRL 'cause that's what Photoshop uses
[06:40] <dr_willis> never used photo shop...
[06:40] <makara-> great app
[06:40] <dr_willis> X has the alt-click to move feature.. its  been a feaature for decades
[06:40] <dr_willis> I dont want or need photoshop.. ;P
[06:40] <makara-> haha
[06:40] <dr_willis> I dont want anything to do with adobe either.
[06:41] <blake> hi everyone
[06:41] <jab416171> ccwm is nice
[06:41] <makara-> very principled
[06:41] <cfhowlett> blake, greetings
[06:41] <blake> greetings.. ^_^ welcome me back after 5 years
[06:42] <anonymousraptr> i installed compiz-plugins and compiz-plugins-extra ..  do i configure it thru the term or the ubuntu GUI?
[06:42] <blake> wow... back with ubuntu 12.10.. and just got back in this irc, dr willis is still alive :D
[06:43] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:43] <dr_willis> dont you owe me some money?
[06:43] <ClientAlive> omg - what a horror show!
[06:43] <dr_willis> ;P
[06:43] <gnomefreak> anonymousraptr: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:43] <ClientAlive> these peope need to be executed!
[06:44] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[06:44] <blake> @dr_willis hahahaha.. I owe you a lot than that.. you've helped me before going thru all in feisty fawn
[06:44] <gnomefreak> ah its the same
[06:44] <Queen`Bee> anonymousraptr, for terminal transparency: edit -> prefs -> appearance
[06:44] <gnomefreak> i still have feisty on one of my laptops
[06:45] <dr_willis> i cant stand trasparent terminals.. it just makes the text harder to read
[06:45] <blake> or anonymousraptr  use Guake :D
[06:45] <anonymousraptr> Queen`Bee: got it, thanks :)
[06:45] <blake> !gauke
[06:45] <gnomefreak> yep sometimes it does. i have mine set about half
[06:45] <gnomefreak> try !guake
[06:46] <dr_willis> try a !info :)
[06:46] <dr_willis> Theres also some alternatives to the ~ type pop down terminals i recall..
[06:46] <dr_willis> seen a few new ones here in the last few months
[06:46] <dr_willis> !info tilda
[06:46] <dr_willis> !info guake
[06:46] <blake> like I said, Guake :D
[06:47] <gnomefreak> i used to love guake
[06:47] <gnomefreak> but it was too big for me and i didnt know how to make it smaller
[06:47] <anonymousraptr> terminal is so much easier to use now.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> you could always use screen :)
[06:48] <jab416171> is there a terminal that re-wraps the text when you resize it, like the mac terminal?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> and if someone learns it teach it to me
[06:48] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107481/drop-down-terminal-as-smooth-as-gnome-shells-looking-glass
[06:48] <dr_willis> screen is not hard to learn. but i tend to use tmux more these days
[06:48] <jab416171> gnomefreak: I hear tmux is better
[06:49] <blake> by the way, dr_willis can I ask something about changing white space background to black?
[06:49] <dr_willis> what white space background?
[06:49] <blake> with all these whites spaces, It hurts my eyes T_T and I don't want to use high contrast..is there alternative way?
[06:50] <blake> like, opening a window, like say my folder, then on the background its all white..
[06:50] <blake> how do I change this?
[06:50] <jab416171> do any of you know of a terminal that re-wraps the text when you resize it, like the mac terminal?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> apperance?
[06:50] <dr_willis> jab416171:  never seen one
[06:51] <jab416171> dr_willis: have you seen the mac terminal?
[06:51] <Brewmaster619> that would be nice, but never seen one.
[06:51] <dr_willis> jab416171:  years and years ago...
[06:51] <jab416171> haha
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: before you got your doctorate?
[06:51] <blake> lmao
[06:51] <jab416171> most of the employees at my company use macs
[06:52] <dr_willis> Im still working on it... :) you never really master becomming a Dr of Love.
[06:52] <dr_willis> My old iMACdv only real use as as a ssh terminal. ;)
[06:52] <blake> @gnomefreak using appearance, I can't seem to find a way to alter the white space background..
[06:52] <dr_willis> blake:  theres dozens of other themes you an install and play with.. i get a lot from the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites ppas and reccomendations
[06:53] <dr_willis> blake:  i doubt if youa re going to find  any tweaking settings for it.. you will have to try out other themes
[06:53] <dr_willis> issues ihave with darker 'background' is that then in some cases you cant see text in dialogs..  like black text on a darkbackground
[06:53] <blake> yeah..I was just wishing to change this one thing. and not the entire theme I have.. :) anyways.. thanks
[06:54] <blake> well, if I have dark background, It will not hurt my eyes, and yea, I'll make text in white. :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> there was some theme i saw that you could sort of tweak all the colors.. but i forget what it was called
[06:54] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: i dont understand omgubuntu it seems to just be ads
[06:55] <gnomefreak> i need wallpapers
[06:55] <Brewmaster619> Adblock!
[06:55] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[06:55] <dr_willis> i dont see any ads
[06:55] <blake> yea you do.. You've told me that years AGo ... :) and I forgot too
[06:56] <gnomefreak> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=wallpaper  maybe ads is wrong word but like it has wallpaper contestd ect...
[06:56] <gnomefreak> since gnome-art died i havent foiund a good place to find them
[06:57] <dr_willis> blake:  perhaps check out --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html
[06:57] <gnomefreak> s/foiund/found
[06:57] <dr_willis> wallpaper =>   reddit.com/r/cats    ;P
[06:57] <blake> thanks dr_willis
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> forums that have a 'show you desktop' thread is a good place, though filtering is an issue...
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> *your
[06:59] <Cub> how do i get wine to automatically open .exe files on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:00] <dr_willis> if they are executable it should do that allready
[07:00] <gnomefreak> that seems awfully dangerous to open .exe automatically
[07:00] <dr_willis> when you double click them
[07:00] <dr_willis> i find the idea nasty also. ;)
[07:00] <Cub> it opens with another program
[07:00] <dr_willis> what other program?
[07:00] <Cub> archive manager
[07:00] <dr_willis> theres a wine-preloader-app thats is ran
[07:01] <dr_willis> which archive manager?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Cub, not the best idea ...
[07:01] <Cub> i have to right click > and select open with wine loader
[07:01] <dr_willis> i wouls suggest sticking to the right-click to run... method...
[07:01] <Cub> Just Archive Manager for Gnome
[07:01] <gnomefreak> that is teh safest way to do it
[07:01] <dr_willis> it can save you a lot of grief
[07:01] <Cub> are .exe files used on *nix anyways natively?
[07:01] <Cub> just curious
[07:01] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Cub, not natively
[07:02] <Cub> because i dont see how a windows virus embedded in a .exe could do anythign to a nix system, maybe screw up wine
[07:02] <dr_willis> they can delete all your users files in their home.. which could include stuff in your dropbox and other online accounts..
[07:03] <dr_willis> or infect stuff on them
[07:03] <dr_willis> system should be safe.. but your homework... not so much
[07:03] <Cub> that could go for nearly any program though right?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Cub, or infect your contact list ...
[07:03] <Cub> hmm okay yeah
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Cub, definitely could infect your .pdf's
[07:04] <dr_willis> it could infect your Cat Pictures!
[07:04] <Cub> my kitty pictures :(
[07:04]  * gnomefreak watched puppy bowl9 today :) they were so cute
[07:05]  * gnomefreak smoke
[07:05] <dr_willis> with lots of 'holding'
[07:07] <blake> i wonder how old is willis &_&
[07:08] <dr_willis> get off my lawn! ;)
[07:08] <dr_willis> In my High school days - we had C64's for compute class..  and in college i had Fortran Programing classes
[07:08] <caribou> damn kids
[07:08] <Cub> i heard linux was hard as heck to understand.. i just gave my mom my old computer (with ubuntu 12.04) on it....she has been using it an hour and is gettng better at it.. enjoying it.
[07:08] <dr_willis> and a 9600 baud serial connection to the college network was a fancy thing for my C128
[07:08] <blake> hahahaha.. :) wow..
[07:08] <Cub> with that said.. it took me a week to learn  win 7 :\
[07:09] <caribou> zx spectrum 24k
[07:09] <Modernmy1h> I'm trying to update my grub boot screen on 12.10 .. so far I've done: update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, sudo update-initramfs -u, and the next step would be update-grub2? Running with 12.10 full disk encryption.
[07:09] <dr_willis> theres the 'task' focused method,.,   how do i do this specific thing..  vs how to i get the whole job done.. mentality
[07:09] <dr_willis> I had a timex slincare 1000 on my wall. ;)
[07:09] <fedor> hi there, i have a problem as discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2035622 is there a roundabout way to get it solved?
[07:10] <dr_willis> fedor:  you could at least give a small sumamry of the issue
[07:10] <shoop> I have a question for everyone how much cpu should my system be using as a general range I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04
[07:10] <dr_willis> shoop:  sitting idling in X11 here with irc going.. a few % points
[07:10] <shoop> well its at about 80%
[07:10] <fedor> i guess i can copy the issue discussed there. the webcam works OK in cheese and skype, but in Chrome and Firefox (flash 11.2 plugin) it only shows a green screen, I think it is probably a flash plugin issue...
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:   use htop - see whats usong it all
[07:11] <shoop> its compiz
[07:11] <dr_willis> fedor:  yep, flash and webcams seem tobe4 a common issue.
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:  that is weird. What video chipset?
[07:11] <shoop> and java is at 25%
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:  java? you got a browser open?
[07:12] <shoop> i have minecraft running and skype as well as this
[07:12] <dr_willis> well there ya go.
[07:12] <dr_willis> Minecraft is a hog.
[07:12] <shoop> but idle i still geet 80%
i was thinking about nvidia cards but then i saw that issue discussed and now i am thinking to deal with flash
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> shoop: what cpu is this?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> skype is probably pretty hungry as well
[07:12] <shoop> amd radeon
[07:12] <shoop> skype is really low
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> shoop: more specific than that please
[07:13] <shoop> what can i type in to the terminal to find that out kinda new but kinda not
[07:13] <dr_willis> fedor:  i find i have the best luck with nvidia cards that i find at the 'most power for the price' :) the last years cards that are being replaced by newer cards.. been out a while. been tested.. and are now decently priced
[07:13] <dr_willis> htop shows all sorts of info shoop
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> shoop: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:14] <gnomefreak> what is fusion?
[07:14] <blake> but he needs to apt-get htop first right?
[07:14] <Cub> top does as well
[07:14] <Cub> type 'top' in terminal, gives cpu usage etc
[07:14] <gnomefreak> IIRC htop gives you more
[07:14] <gnomefreak> but top works great
[07:14] <Cub> im too lazy to apt-get :\
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> htop is worth dl'ing
[07:15] <blake> just use top then?
[07:16] <dr_willis> my nvidia card is getting to be old. ;) and its my most powerfull pc.. [GeForce GT 530]
[07:17] <Cub> i'm using a trs-80 dr_willis
[07:17] <blake> wew.. I just got lock-file create error thing.. enlighten me please
[07:17] <dr_willis> Cub:  had one..
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> trs-80?
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> really?
[07:18] <dr_willis> details please. ;)
[07:18] <dr_willis> Queen`Bee:  yes.. with a tape casset drive. ;P
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> wow
[07:18] <dr_willis> compared to the timex-sinclare-1000 ;) the tsr-80 was high-tech
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> shoop: you still here?
[07:19] <blake> nevermind, its about guake.brb
[07:19] <shoop> little late on this my cpu is AMD Athlon(tm) II P340 Dual-Core Processor × 2
[07:20] <Cub> trs-80 is way safer than any system out there today
[07:20] <Cub> there are virtually no viruses for it :)
[07:20] <blake> #unity
[07:20]  * dr_willis flashes his Raspberry-Pi
[07:20] <Cub> lol
[07:21] <dr_willis> I got a C64 game player thing thats in a Atari Joystick. ;)
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> shoop: running what you said, 80% is reasonable. to truly test if it's still 80% idling you'd have to make sure the processes in top/htop are not running then wait for the next few updates
[07:21] <dr_willis> night all
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> nacht
[07:22] <gnomefreak> i miss my ATARI :(
[07:22] <shoop> see and the thing is i have used ubuntu before for about a year  when it was 11.04 and i really didnt have this issue so i was just wounder if it was bug in my system monitor or somethign else
[07:22] <makara-> night
[07:22] <gnomefreak> sorry for caps
[07:22] <blake> I played super mario bro on our nintendo ..zzz
[07:22] <gnomefreak> night
[07:22] <Cub> gnomefreak, so do i... i had one of those old 6 switchers.
[07:23] <gnomefreak> me too
[07:23] <Cub> had a couple of rare titles, i found out now are worth money
[07:23] <Cub> all gone now, went to the trash years ago :\
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> shoop: it may be fixed in the next X update
[07:23] <blake> i once played top down view tetris like game, I can't seem to recall what's the game called
[07:24]  * gnomefreak cant find good info on fusion
[07:25] <shoop> ok thanks :) been helpful way better then looking all over the net for this info.
[07:25] <Cub> blake, and gnomefreak  a good place to discuss this would be #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> shoop: if it's really cutting into battery life, make a forum post
[07:26] <blake> :) yeah.. sorry
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Cub: that is why i stoped commenting
[07:27] <Cub> it's np, just saying before an op gets on us hehe
[07:27] <gnomefreak> .~/me an op
[07:27] <Cub> then you should know better :P
[07:28]  * gnomefreak honestly thought we were in -ot
[07:28] <gnomefreak> its late here so my brain is not yet workihng
[07:29] <Cub> i suppose it would not be a huge issue if the room is kinda slow though?
[07:29] <Cub> as long as people don't get the wrong idea of the purpose of the channel
[07:30] <we6jbo> I need to conserve battery life in my notebook running Ubuntu. Is there a good mp4 video player that can be configured to save battery power?
[07:30] <blake> can someone tell me how to get this off? *** glibc detected *** lockfile-create: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09b44008 ***
[07:30] <gnomefreak> it normally does matter
[07:30] <makara_> gnomefreak, thx 4 htop
[07:30] <gnomefreak> makara_: np
[07:31] <Cub> we6jbo, perhaps this post will be helpful ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2039132
[07:31] <we6jbo> Thanks Cub I'll check that out
[07:32] <gnomefreak> i installed fusion i clicked the icon in dash and nothing happens what a waste of time and energy
[07:32] <Cub> yup
[07:32] <blake> *** glibc detected *** lockfile-create: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09b44008 ***
[07:32] <Cub> oops we6jbo
[07:32] <Cub> that was for blake
[07:33] <Cub> blake my post was for you
[07:33] <blake> i see.. brb
[07:33] <Cub> sorry about that, i've been busy all day setting up computers
[07:35] <rhin0> how do I get files across to an sd ram card -- appears to copy but is blank
[07:43] <rhin0> anyone know how to enable ssh on android
[07:43] <rhin0> ssh server
[07:45] <Senjai> rhin0: you should probably ask in an android related channel
[07:45] <Gumby> rhin0: might want to ask in #android or #android-dev (I think those are the channels)
[07:47] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys,how to remove duplicate menu?
[07:48] <zjhxmjl> http://h.hiphotos.baidu.com/zhidao/wh%3D450%2C600/sign=aae4b1479358d109c4b6a1b6e468e089/3bf33a87e950352ab1ecf7315243fbf2b2118b7e.jpg
[07:48] <rhin0> ah thought I was there
[07:48] <elfer> imgur?
[07:48] <sail> ok so i just setup my ftp server now i want to share a file with ipaddress which user can access from a browser?
[07:49] <sail> like i want to create a ftp site
[07:50] <flintser> sail: any user, if you havent configured special rules.
[07:50] <flintser> you might want to chroot users and disable root if it is not already
[07:51] <sail> this is not a issue i just need to create a ftp site so user can access my shared file through ftp i.e:ftp://ip-address/hostname
[07:51] <sail> @ flintser
[07:52] <sail> flintser: it solved
[07:52] <flintser> just try to write it
[07:52] <flintser> it should work and ask for user
[07:53] <sever> всем привет
[07:57] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[08:08] <N03L> Hello people.
[08:08] <N03L> What's on the agenda for today?
[08:08] <cfhowlett> N03L, greetings
[08:09] <bazhang> N03L, ubuntu support. did you have a support questiion?
[08:09] <N03L> cfhowlett: cheers for the warm welcome.
[08:09] <N03L> bazhang: yea I do.
[08:09] <bazhang> N03L, then ask it
[08:10] <N03L> Is it ideal to use the actual linux terminal to write html? Or am I better off using something like notepad etc.
[08:10] <N03L> Just wondering if the former is possible. If so, how do I go about doing that?
[08:10] <iceroot> N03L: use the editor which you can handle best
[08:11] <iceroot> N03L: some are using an editor on the cli (vim, emacs), some are using an editor with a gui
[08:11] <cfhowlett> N03L, matter of opinion.  Use what works for you.
[08:11] <N03L> iceroot: Is it possible to just use the ubuntu terminal?
[08:11] <iceroot> N03L: with a cli-based editor, yes of course
[08:12] <iceroot> !editor | N03L
[08:12] <N03L> Ok cheers guys.
[08:13] <iceroot> N03L: normally there is nothing you can only do in a GUI, on GNU/Linux there is normally also a way to do it on the CLI (and normally that is faster then using the gui) but it depends on the skill, preferences and so on
[08:15] <paul--> does anyone have experience here with snapraid?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> N03L, see web editors section @    http://whdb.com/blog/2008/the-top-50-proprietary-programs-that-drive-you-crazy-and-their-open-source-alternatives/
[08:16] <iceroot> !anyone | paul--
[08:16] <iceroot> cfhowlett: nice link, very interesting
[08:17] <paul--> http://www.flickr.com/photos/86435426@N05/8439999171/ This is my setup. I want to have the best of both worlds. The ability to virtualise machines AND the benefits of hard drive power savings and write performance.
[08:18] <paul--> I have found that vmware esxi wont let me do this, so looking for alternatives.
[08:19] <nanashiRei> Can anyone advice me on using X-Fi with ubuntu?
[08:19] <paul--> where is his !anyone
[08:19] <nanashiRei> i just won't do any of the magic as it does under windows :(
[08:20] <nanashiRei> i got lame stereo sound and cracking...
[08:20] <nanashiRei> :'(
[08:21] <N03L> I normally just use notepad ++ but I'm on ubuntu at the moment and the defaul editor (gedit) seems fine.
[08:24] <mrsudoer> I just installed kubuntu over ubuntu and want to undo it :(
[08:24] <mrsudoer> how can i get a list of packages that were installed when i installed kubuntu?
[08:24] <bazhang> !puregnome | mrsudoer
[08:24] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, kubuntu-desktop or kdxe only?
[08:25] <mrsudoer> kubuntu-desktop
[08:25] <bazhang> kdxe?
[08:26] <mrsudoer> bazhang, I get the following error when I follow that article... https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:26] <iceroot> !puregnome | mrsudoer
[08:26] <iceroot> mrsudoer: there is a list of all packages which were installed and a command to remove them again
[08:26] <bazhang> mrsudoer, is this ubuntu? MINT? or what. and what version
[08:27] <mrsudoer> iceroot, I get the following error though: https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:27] <mrsudoer> ubuntu 12.04
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> are there any single board / cheap mini computers that run ubuntu ( desktop ) for kiosks mode ..
[08:27] <bazhang> yellabs-r2, ask in ##hardware
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> ah
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> ok , thanks you
[08:27] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[08:28] <mrsudoer> cfhowlett, when I try that, I get the following error: https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:29] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, pretty sure this script won't manage gits ...
[08:32] <maymann> Hi, In Ubuntu 12.10: where are openconnect (network-manager) saving its VPN profiles (I'm going to create a bootable Ubuntu image (using UNetbootin) and need to add a profile that makes the client connect automatically ?
[08:32] <emiliano_> hello guys
[08:32] <mrsudoer> ugh, i should just do a clean install of ubuntu and never install kde on top of it
[08:34] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, probably the best bet.  I'm in same situation.  Just HAD to try lubuntu on top of ubuntustudio.  US is best left untainted.  Will wait for the next point release to do a clean install.
[08:34] <doctrgiggles> connect
[08:35] <fruitFly> can you shrink a windows volume and a linux volume to free up space?
[08:36] <bazhang> !gparted | fruitFly yes
[08:36] <cfhowlett> fruitFly, of course.
[08:36] <fruitFly> Ubuntu vs mint?
[08:36] <mrsudoer> thanks for your help guys
[08:36] <bazhang> offtopic here fruitFly
[08:37] <fruitFly> bazhang: why do use use ubuntu over other distros?
[08:37] <mrsudoer> cfhowlett, when is the next point release?
[08:37] <fruitFly> Why do you guys use ubuntu over other distros?
[08:37] <bazhang> fruitFly, this is NOT the chat channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, should have been last week, but it was delayed.  no announcement yet
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !ot > fruitFly,
[08:37] <mrsudoer> will it be a LTS, cfhowlett ?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, exactly 12.04.2
[08:38] <mrsudoer> so..yes?
[08:38] <fruitFly> will ubuntu dual boot option give me the chance to customize my partitions?
[08:38] <bazhang> yes
[08:39] <bazhang> customize how fruitFly
[08:39] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, sorry.  yes.  12.04 is LTS so the next point release will likewise be LTS
[08:39] <fruitFly> bazhang: set a /, /boot, /home and swap size?
[08:39] <maymann> In Ubuntu 12.10: where are openconnect (network-manager) saving its VPN profiles (I'm going to create a bootable Ubuntu image (using UNetbootin) and need to add a profile that makes the client connect automatically ?
[08:39] <bazhang> fruitFly, of course Yes
[08:40] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, note that the current 12.04 release is 12.04.1
[08:43] <kalypso> hey guys any way  to change language in ubuntu with a keyboard shortcuts ? :)
[08:44] <bazhang> kalypso, using ibus? sure
[08:44] <mrsudoer> oh okay, thanks cfhowlett
[08:44] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, have fun, be safe
[08:44] <mrsudoer> i guess i'll wait it out for now then
[08:45] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, seemed to be a kernel issue which must be resolved before the point release is ... released.  Hopefully, any day now.
[08:45] <mrsudoer> looking forward to it :)
[08:46] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, same
[08:46] <we6jbo> hi
[08:47] <we6jbo> Is there a program for Ubuntu that can graph what programs are using the most power over a duration of time?
[08:47] <theadmin> we6jbo: What do you mean, power?
[08:48] <bazhang> we6jbo, cycles, you mean?
[08:48] <we6jbo> Well I'm using a netbook and it gets on average of 4hrs of battery life and I'm wondering if theres a way to graph what programs are using most of it so I can set them to not run when the netbook isnt pluged in
[08:48] <Myrtti> powertop might help
[08:50] <we6jbo> Ok I'll try that. Thanks Myrttti
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> # alternate mappings for "page up" and "page down" to search the history
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> "\e[5~": history-search-backward
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> "\e[6~": history-search-forward
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> why to not enable by default uncommented in inputrc???
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> there are a good reason?
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> every system i must uncomment... is frustrating
[08:56] <theadmin> we6jbo: You might also want to install laptop-mode-tools to preserve power.
[08:56] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: By default, page up and page down scroll the console output.
[08:58] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: You can search history with arrow keys (up/down). Seems reasonable enough to me.
[08:58] <MoL0ToV> theadmin, is shift + page up that scrolls, its not right?
[08:58] <MoL0ToV> cp: impossibile creare il file regolare "/home/assistente/Documenti/Immagini/collegamento wireless/Istantanea - 02022013 - 13:17:05.png": File o directory non esistente
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> i have 700 permissions on this file
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> and i'm the proprietary
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> so why cp don't copy?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> !fr|MoL0ToV,
[08:59] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Well, probably because /home/assistente/Documenti/Immagini/collegamento wireless/ doesn't exist.
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> i'm not french ;P
[09:00] <cfhowlett> MoL0ToV, apparently your computer is.  Excuse a moi.
[09:00] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Also, before pasting any terminal output to the channel, please export LANG=en_US.UTF-8, so that we can understand it without having to guess things.
[09:00] <Myrtti> cfhowlett: italian
[09:00] <ANub> guys......skype application run with root privileges and without root privileges show little bit different interface and icons. What can be done to have the same functionalities as that of root
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, grazie
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ANub, running skype as root?  bad idea.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ANub, any basic user app that requires root to run ... probably should not be run
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !it|MoL0ToV,
[09:01] <SAngeli> Hi, I posted a question on ubuntu forum but it seems like nobody is capable or willing to answer it. Is anyone in channel willing to help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12484777#post12484777 I need to get my project going.
 : thats what I'm asking to run it without root to have all the functionalities
[09:02] <SAngeli> thank you for anyone who can share some answer with me
[09:02] <theadmin> ANub: There is no functionality in Skype that would need root priveleges.
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ANub, ok, I have to ask; what skype functionality are you missing as non-root
 to be specific .........sending file without root crashes the application
 I've submitted it on launchpad as well as on Skype bug report
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ANub, i'd suspect a misformed installation then.  I send files all the time as non-root with no issue.
[09:03] <theadmin> ANub: Remove your users' Skype configuration (it's stored in ~/.Skype) and try again
[09:03] <MoL0ToV> theadmin, i have write permissions on dest directory
 .... ive Precise Pangolin .... 32 bit arch
[09:03] <MoL0ToV> so i don't understand why don't work...
[09:03] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Could you give me the command you used?
[09:04] <spliffy> Hi. Anyone got an idea why it could be that when i copy /dev/zero to a blockdevice with dd iostat shows that dd reads from the device?
 I've done all these things (removing files, removing skype, updateing to latest ver)
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, theadmin's excellent suggestion; delete the user's skype config and start over.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, weird indeed.
 yeap
[09:04] <changer> Hey all
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, if it's a skype bug nothing we can do here .
[09:05] <cfhowlett> changer, greetings
[09:05] <cfhowlett> ANub, sorry to hear of it.
 but with root it has no problem
[09:05] <theadmin> ANub: Did you install Skype from the Ubuntu repositories or from skype.com
[09:05] <MoL0ToV> theadmin,  http://www.pastebin.ca/2310564
 tried both
[09:06] <cfhowlett> ANub, version 4.1??
 yeap
[09:07] <changer> anyone here know if ubunto has an hdtv screen resize support ?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> ANub, ok.  well, I'd suggest you delete and purge all skype from your system and reinstall  http://www.tecmint.com/install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/
[09:07] <spliffy> i'm seeing a strange phenomenon. when i run 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1' i see more reads than writes on sdb1 using iostat. What could be the reason for this?
[09:08] <changer> since i am running a laptop (which  i opened up and installed inside my tv ) so its only screen is a samsung 32"
[09:08] <spliffy> nothing else is accessing the disk
 i'll do that shortly........as soon as i finish my lunch.........:)
[09:09] <sveinse> Anyone here with dash knowledge? I'm searching for a way to test if a string ends with ".conf" in dash. Can I do that without echo+grep? I know I can in bash at least
[09:09] <cfhowlett> ANub, good luck.  really hope it works.  don't forget to purge the user configs as well.  In fact, a little apt-get purge && apt-get autoremove might be just the thing.
 i thought i could use "setcap" ........ tried that.....no luck
[09:10] <changer> guys plz help, i need to find a way to get my screen working without cutting off 10px either side
[09:12] <changer> i went from windows 8 (i hate windows 8 ) i now am running opensuse , switching to ubuntu, can i resize screen res there ?
[09:13] <changer> cuz when i tried it in opensuse , i got epic errors :-)
[09:13] <Nickinator> Should be able to, what video card were you using?
[09:13] <Oweoqi> yeah you can
[09:13] <BotaniCar> "epic errors" mean they were written in purple ? Aww <3
[09:14] <changer> im using an hd 6500 m   (its an faster rebranded 6310 i read)
[09:14] <theadmin> sveinse: You can use expr: expr $string : \\.conf > 0
[09:15] <changer> nah epic errors was more like video freeze up
[09:15] <Nickinator> That's an AMD Radon isn't it?
[09:15] <theadmin> sveinse: Err, make that: expr $string : \\.conf$ > 0
[09:15] <changer> all was perfect, only in playback of hd video the system couldnt handle it, updated drivers etc, but i recon its better to switch to ubuntu, givving  it an try
[09:16] <changer> yep its an radeon
[09:16] <Nickinator> I know there are a selection of AMD Video driver packages for Ubuntu, I'm sure they would've been available in OpenSUSE but probably not as accessible,
[09:17] <changer> well i downloaded the update package from amd site
[09:18] <changer> worked quite well , but the problem occurs when i need to shave off 10 pix from my resolution so it will be visible on my tv screen
[09:18] <Nickinator> I'd try the Ubuntu Live CD, that way you can try it out without wiping everything,
[09:18] <Nickinator> I'd also try modifying the X configuration,
[09:18] <changer> then desktop etc works fine, but playback video , and it tries to kill you lol
[09:18] <changer> hmmm good tip :) , i can try :)
[09:19] <changer> just hope this crap tv wont give me more problems lol :P
[09:19] <michael_87> ok I am frusterated tryying to use wine with a more advanced game so I'm going to ask is there any really fun offline games that I can download for linux other then emulators?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> my AMD  card works fine with our drivers
[09:19] <changer> try installing steam m8
[09:19] <Ronalds_M> michael nexuiz
[09:20] <changer> what card do you have ?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> HD4200
[09:20] <sakkemo> for upper end netbook (i3, 8 GB of RAM, 128 GB SSD) would you recommend installing full ubuntu or ubuntu-minimal and just the packages I happen to need? I plan on using i3 rather than unity
[09:20] <Oweoqi> how do I mod the steam appindicator icon?
[09:20] <theadmin> michael_87: Minecraft! :P
[09:21] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: what are you using it for?
[09:21] <Ronalds_M> sakkemo arch linux lol
[09:21] <changer> i have old dual core pentium D here 2.3ghz, 4gb ram , 1gb video hd 6500M and 500gig hd , all stuffed inside a samsung tv :P
[09:21] <changer> (its amazing how long some cables can get :P
[09:22] <gnomefreak> in a tv? how theh ell did you manage that
[09:22] <gnomefreak> the hell even
[09:22] <sakkemo> mysteriousdarren: school, meaning a little bit of programming, R (locally), writing stuff obviously as well as web surfing and irc. But not anything really intensive.
[09:22] <theadmin> gnomefreak: Maybe it's a CRT :P
[09:23] <gnomefreak> oh
[09:23] <changer> well behind the " wall bracked support "   therre is a metal rame , which you can remove giving you a good 6cm depth :)
[09:24] <changer> you then proceed to strip off all of your laptop  , like original screen, plastic covers, keyboard , etc
[09:24] <changer> who needs a battery :P
 do you mean this ....wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-32/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb
[09:24] <changer> you rip out the irritating cd drive , since it wont work :)
[09:24] <theadmin> ANub: Don't use that... Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/skype
[09:25] <changer> and start drilling holes for your mounts
[09:25] <changer> make some extra ventilation slots, and all you have outside is 3 usb cables (still working on that tho :)
[09:25] <sgo11> hi, when apt-get install <something>, it may require many packages. is that possible to exclude one particular package with some command line arguments? thanks.
 Underway....
[09:26] <hillary> which version of eclipse works well with ubuntu 12.04. Am developing android mobile/web applications. Any one to help me. The eclipse indigo in ubuntu software center does not work well
[09:26] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: well seems like you could use regular ubuntu, but do you enjoy flat speed like the rest of us? I run a customized version of Lubuntu 12.10 on my netbook it flies
[09:26] <changer> u can use the 220v entry  of the tv for soldering your ac adapter to it , easy and its 1 cable and hole less to see :)
[09:26] <cfhowlett> theadmin ANub, as the admin says use the repo version.  Sorry for the dated tutorial.  I used this method before the skype update made it into ubuntu
[09:26] <SAngeli> Hi, I posted a question on ubuntu forum but it seems like nobody is capable or willing to answer it. Is anyone in channel willing to help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12484777#post12484777 I need to get my project going.
[09:26] <theadmin> sgo11: You can mark that package as ignored/held: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[09:27] <theadmin> sgo11: And then do the install.
[09:27] <hillary> which version of eclipse works well with ubuntu 12.04. Am developing android mobile/web applications. Any one to help me. The eclipse indigo in ubuntu software center does not work well
[09:27] <sakkemo> mysteriousdarren: yep, I guess I'll do the minimal install. Might use the opportunity to try out different software rather than the defaults as well
[09:28] <cfhowlett> hillary, 3.7.2-1 is in the repo
[09:28] <sgo11> theadmin, thanks a lot for the suggestion. basically I want to exclude flashplugin-installer while installing ubuntu-restricted-extras. ^_^ thanks.
[09:28] <hillary> cfhowlett,  that is the indigo
[09:29] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: well try a couple of the de and find the one you like
[09:29] <cfhowlett> hillary, there might be a more current version available from the package maintainer.  Info should be in help>about
 Did as you said and launched application from the terminal .........tried to send the file and application crashed generating "Fatal: ASSERT failure in : "Got an update for an invalid inteface. Investigate this.", file atspiadaptor.cpp, line 899
[09:32] <ANub> Aborted (core dumped)
[09:32] <ANub> "
[09:32] <Nisse> Hello
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Nisse, greetings
[09:33] <Nisse> I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.10 working in virtualbox, but the box crashes when i get to the desktop. (I have 3D enabled)
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Nisse, for starters, try disabling 3d
[09:33] <theadmin> ANub: Huh. Well, then it's a Skype bug. You should bother Microsoft about that...
[09:33] <theadmin> ANub: If they'll ever care
[09:33] <Nisse> cfhowlett: i did that, but then it lags horribly
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Nisse, install lubuntu or xubuntu ... lighter distros
[09:34] <Nisse> cfhowlett: Ok, guess the only way
[09:34] <Nisse> cfhowlett: thank you for the help
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Nisse, be safe, have fun
 and <cfhowlett> :). No words for MS. ;) ......... Anyways thanks for your help
[09:34] <cfhowlett> ANub, best of luck
[09:34] <hillary> when i insert cd to my cd drive i get a message unable to mount the media ubuntu 12.04
[09:35] <hillary> when i insert cd to my cd drive i get a message unable to mount the media ubuntu 12.04 is my os
[09:36] <Gunpowder> hey who is op here?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !patience|hillary,
[09:36] <hillary> ubottu,Thanks for the information
[09:37] <mysteriousdarren> Gunpowder: what do you need?
[09:37] <lhavelund> Gunpowder: There are several of us, but we hide in the shadows until needed.
[09:37] <Gunpowder> mysteriousdarren my good sir i need to take off an account
[09:37] <Gunpowder> i am trying to register a new nick
[09:37] <lhavelund> Gunpowder: Try #freenode - we don't control the network, freenode does. :)
[09:37] <Gunpowder> ah woops
[09:38] <hillary> I need to restore all the settings to its original installation in ubuntu 12.04. Which commands does that?
[09:39] <mysteriousdarren> Gunpowder: check with gry at freenode if hes still on
[09:39] <Gunpowder> did
[09:39] <cfhowlett> hillary, default settings?  you could try deleting all the user .config files form /home ....
[09:39] <Gunpowder> thx
[09:40] <gnomefreak> we have config files throught the file system so i dont think the ones in /home is it
[09:40] <hillary> cfhowlett,  procedure please
[09:40] <MoL0ToV> theadmin,  http://www.pastebin.ca/2310564
[09:41] <cfhowlett> gnomefreak, and thus you have revealed the precise frontier of my ignorance ...
[09:41] <vnc786> hi everyone
[09:41] <cfhowlett> hillary, if you are speaking of user settings, go into the user /home, display hidden folders and delete everything.  Better yet, create a NEW user, log out, login and all those settings will be default.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> vnc786, greetings
[09:42] <gnomefreak> i don thtink there is an easy way if it is possible at all
[09:42] <vnc786> i got my Sata HDD 500 GB. it's head is damage because making noise and I/O is very slow so i have got new HDD 750gb. What is the best way to copy/clone complete old hdd to new hdd. i am having systemrescuecd. what i now is use dd cmd. but want to know is there any gud option which i dont know.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> hi vnc786
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !dd|vnc786,
[09:43] <gnomefreak> vnc786: save what you want on a usb stick than just transfer the files
[09:43] <sveinse> Is there any way to the the return status of the first command in a pipe sequence in dash?
[09:43] <wdp> vnc786, if your old disc is damaged I'd take a look at gddrescue. dd stops on the first error; gddrescue not.
[09:43] <hillary> cfhowlett,  sorry i meant the software update center settings
[09:43] <cfhowlett> hillary, ah, so software sources and such???
[09:44] <hillary> cfhowlett,  exactly!
[09:44] <cfhowlett> hillary, wait one, I've got the link to do it ...
[09:44] <vnc786> cfhowlett: gnomefreak: i got 490gb data on old hdd and since I/O is damn slow so was wondering how shuld i proceed
[09:44] <hillary> cfhowlett,  ok
[09:45] <vnc786> because OS takes 1/2 hour to boot
[09:45] <cfhowlett> hillary, Restore Ubuntu to default settings without reinstalling ... http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html
[09:45] <gnomefreak> vnc786: with that much im not sure
[09:46] <flintser> vnc786: install new system to new hdd, install old hdd to the computer and you can copy what you need from there
[09:46] <hillary> cfhowlett,  Thanks let me read it
[09:46] <gnomefreak> that sounds way too easy
[09:46] <cfhowlett> vnc786, you might be better off just clean installing your system and take the failing HDD to a data recovery specialist...just sayin'
[09:47] <gnomefreak> now that i can get behide but im going to guess it will not be cheap
[09:48] <vnc786> cfhowlett: i can access my data using systemrescue cd :)
[09:48] <cfhowlett> gnomefreak, depends on what needs to be save, innit?
[09:49] <flintser> why not so what i suggested? you can also try reflect (win software) to take an imageof the old setup. then extract it on your new hdd
[09:49] <flintser> not that it will take a looooong time..
[09:49] <flintser> note*
[09:50] <kjelle> .o/ I have an upstart script stuck in "stop/killed" or "start/killed". The process ID does not exist. How do i clean this up, so i can fix my script=
[09:50] <kjelle> (google didnt help)
[09:50] <vnc786> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sda will this be ok or i have to add more parameters..?
[09:50] <hillary> cfhowlett, This is personal. Currently am reading for certification in linux. I have started reading on ubuntu then later to redhat.I wish to be RHCE(Redhat certified Engineer) could you be knowing good source of study materials? Or you have any advice for my career path? Our Kenya government is embracing open source softwares hence positioning my self. Thanks.
[09:51] <llutz> vnc786: if and of shouldn't be equal
[09:51] <flintser> vnc786: if it is a desktop pc install both hdd:s into it and copy paste what you need. (clean install on new hdd)
[09:51] <llutz> vnc786: you should set bs=yyM  to speed it up a bit
[09:52] <cfhowlett> hillary, I'm not the one ask ... just a hobbyist/user.  but the guru's and full bearded turtle neck experts here and in #ubuntu-server can probably advise you ...
[09:52] <vnc786> llutz: yes need some parameter help what shuld i keep like bs=????
[09:52] <nb-ben> vnc786: it's okay, but it will transfer one byte block at each write instead of a bigger block like llutz said, so if you want it faster then you should indeed specify a block size using bs=NNNN
[09:53] <llutz> vnc786: bs=4M  is a value giving reasonable speed here (while dd always will be slow)
[09:53] <nb-ben> why would dd always be slow?
[09:53] <nb-ben> it's one of the fastest writing methods as far as I know
[09:54] <flintser> dd is for exact copying it should be slower than others
[09:56] <wdp> flintser, i'd be interested in "than others" what alternatives do you have? The only way to achieve more speed would be the use of cat, not sure how useful that is. And "for exact copying" is misleading - Many tools are for that. Or do you get different files out if you use cp and rsync? :)
[09:57] <wdp> vnc786, again: if you disc got errors (check dmesg and smartctl) you might rather want to use gddrescue instead of dd. Otherwise it might well happen that the copy-process will stop in the middle and you can start again.
[09:58] <hillary> cfhowlett, ok i will try ask
[09:58] <cfhowlett> hillary, very best of luck to you.
[09:58] <wdp> dd does not need to know the filesystem, hence copies _everything_ which is why dd will have to copy _more_ and which is why it is slower. by the way.
[09:59] <flintser> wdp: thats what i meant... tried to simplify
[10:00] <vnc786> wdp: whenever i start pc the bios give me error i.e there is problem with drive i used smartctl to check it also says there is error with drive but i am just googling gddrescue havent heard abt can u tell me more  how do i use it
[10:01] <cfhowlett> vnc786, if your HDD won't even boot at the bios stage, gddrescuse won't fix it ...
[10:01] <vnc786> no no it's booting  just it takes time...
[10:02] <wdp> vnc786,
[10:02] <wdp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[10:02] <wdp> "Imaging a damaged device, filesystem or drive"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> vnc786, "http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> vnc786, scratch that.
[10:05] <vnc786> yes sure i will do little study on that and tommorow i will let u know ...thank u everyone..i was confident that i will get something new from u guys ...cheers..
[10:06] <emptyhua> JOIN #debian
[10:12] <miguelnegrrao> Hello. I have a macbook pro with two internal hardrives. I would like to install ubuntu to the second harddrive, how shall I do that ? thank you !
[10:12] <auronandace> !mac | miguelnegrrao
[10:12] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, doable ..
[10:14] <keelG> miguelnegrrao: iirc there is some limitations for what you want to achieve - you should go research it some more
[10:14] <keelG> and hello ubuntu@freenode!
[10:14] <miguelnegrrao> I'm more or less familiar with the documentation for mac. I have rEFit installed, etc. I have already installed once on the primary disk via boot camp. I don't think boot camp allows you to install to the second disk though.
[10:15] <miguelnegrrao> So I would be advised to install on the primary disk ?
[10:15] <keelG> miguelnegrrao: My point, was installing an OS to the 2nd disk of a Macbook pro - as I recall it, it is not possible. I can't remember for what obscure reason, or if it was true :)
[10:16] <miguelnegrrao> keelG: And is it possible to install to an external USB disk, or I would have the same problem ?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, there are hits that it doesn't like external HDD, but I can't see if there was a solution...
[10:17] <hillary> apart from eclipse which other IDE can work well with android to develop mobile/ web applications using ubuntu 12.04 or higher
[10:17] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, then there is this ... http://www.ehow.com/how_6182617_install-second-sata-hdd-ubuntu.html
[10:19] <miguelnegrrao> Well, I was able to run the installer of a usb stick, wouldn't a normal installation also boot in the same way ?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, on a mac?  not.
[10:20] <miguelnegrrao> (well, a bit of hacking is needed to get it to boot, the dedicated graphics card has to be switched off and the onboard card turned on)
[10:20] <cfhowlett> hillary, see "web editors"
[10:20] <cfhowlett> http://whdb.com/blog/2008/the-top-50-proprietary-programs-that-drive-you-crazy-and-their-open-source-alternatives/
[10:20] <miguelnegrrao> Ok. Thanks everyone, I will keep researching this.
[10:24] <wdp> someone here using hardware raid with ubuntu?
[10:25] <auronandace> !raid | wdp
[10:25] <nb-ben> anyone here ever tried to make a BIND plugin?
[10:25] <wdp> auronandace, useless pages.
[10:25] <nb-ben> I am just unable to find any documentation on the matter
[10:26] <wdp> auronandace, i specially asked for hardware raid, not fakeraid not software raid.
[10:26] <auronandace> wdp: sorry, i thought it might have hardware raid tips too
[10:26] <tsc> hi, my /boot partition was full and apt-get wasn't working so I deleted the oldest images an now when i do "apt-get -f install" I get the following error:http://pastebin.com/W5GakV7V , any ideas?
[10:26]  * Korny2 chuckles about people who call software raid fake raid....
[10:26] <wdp> auronandace, no, thats the only thing which i am unable to find in the ubuntu docs :)
[10:27] <wdp> Korny2, who did that? :)
[10:28] <btral> hi
[10:28] <btral> i have win7 on my C drive. i installed ubuntu 12 in last partion. but now win 7 can not load
[10:28] <btral> how can i fix it?
[10:29] <Guest65492> the question is, do you really wan to fix it
[10:30] <btral> Guest65492: ye
[10:30] <calwig> whats a good DV editing software?
[10:30] <cfhowlett> btral, windows repair.  Ask in ##windows
[10:30] <OrgMental> btral, http://askubuntu.com/questions/77439/how-to-add-windows-7-loader-to-grub
[10:30] <btral> ok
[10:30] <cfhowlett> calwig, openshot, kdenlive, and even blender
[10:31] <cfhowlett> calwig, openshot can be compared to iMovie
[10:31] <calwig> is iMovie for Windows?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> calwig, no.
[10:32] <calwig> perfecft
[10:33] <calwig> cfhowlett, thank you
[10:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, which one is most compatible with other apps-tools
[10:34] <cfhowlett> calwig, no worries.  Also, you might wish to check into #ubuntustudio and check out www.ubuntustudio.org
[10:35] <cfhowlett> calwig, my preference is openshot but then I generally produce vids for youtube, not Hollywood.  Ask in #ubuntustudio or check the forums ... lots of artists and samples have been loaded
[10:36] <calwig> sounds like a good amount of homework, perfect!
[10:36] <subhojit777> Hello, I have downloaded apache solr tar ball form apache solr site. I also downloaded a .asc file. How can I extract the tarball with the help of the .asc file?
[10:36] <arunkumar413> how to install user theme extension for gnome shell
[10:38] <PPSlim> I'm on 12.04 desktop and have set an upstart job to initiate a ssh tunnel to a machine (though the job is currently started manually) - Unless I manually stop the job myself, lightdm seems to restart automatically - Any thoughts on what "stopping" event I should use, or otherwise how I should debug?
[10:39] <makara_> hi. I'm trying to get Avidemux 2.6. I downloaded avidemux3-core-2.6.1-r8442-Linux.deb and 3 others from their site, and I see them installed in Synaptic, but how do I run the blighter? It keeps opening up 2.5. When I check installed file for the deb (avidemux3-core:i386) it says only installed packages have installed files :S
[10:49] <phoenixsampras> help
[10:49] <phoenixsampras> how to know more info about a package in the repo? like version
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: apt-cache show packagename
[10:51] <igueh> hello
[10:52] <igueh> i am new in linux so i need some help to understand
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> igueh: what do you need to know?
[10:53] <igueh> can anyone help me
[10:53] <keelG> igueh: help was already offered to you
[10:53] <flcl> hello, I installed teamviewer onto Ubuntu VPS. How to check teamviewer ID and pass from command line?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> 10:52 < ActionParsnip> igueh: what do you need to know?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> iggy19: in case you missed it....
[10:55] <phoenixsampras> flcl: i think you should ask teamviewer.com
[10:59] <flcl> what does this message mean: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. ?
[11:00] <phoenixsampras> flcl: that program needs a Monitor... and Vga card
[11:00] <flcl> is possible to set a virtual monitor on virtual server, somehow?..
[11:00] <flcl> ^)
[11:00] <flcl> * :)
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> flcl: what do you use as HV?
[11:01] <flcl> what's HV?
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> hardware virtualization environment?
[11:01] <flcl> XEN
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> what OS?
[11:01] <flcl> Ubuntu 12.04
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> desktop?
[11:02] <flcl> how do I check that?..
[11:02] <flcl> 3.2.0-35-generic-pae #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 18:04:39 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[11:02] <phoenixsampras> well if you want X, you need to use Ubuntu Desktop... which is lame for a server, you only need SSH to handle servers
[11:03] <flcl> oh dear... And I waited for an hour for gnome to install :)
[11:03] <phoenixsampras> apt-get install ssh
[11:03] <phoenixsampras> then ssh your server ;)
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: not:  openssh-server
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:04] <phoenixsampras> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !info ssh
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> oh, its a metapackage
[11:04] <phoenixsampras> yeh, works as well
[11:04] <flcl> I am in irssi from PuTTY right now...
[11:05] <ntr0py> Is the ubuntu phone os already available and if so which hw is supported yet?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !phone|ntr0py,
[11:05] <phoenixsampras> ntr0py: heard will be ready and usable for 2015
[11:06] <flcl> I hope phone won't get unity =|
[11:06] <phoenixsampras> yeh, death to Unity
[11:07] <ntr0py> cfhowlett, yes i know that site, but is it released yet? on wikipedia it can be read "The system itself is due to be released in January 2013, available as a system image for some Android devices, with the possibility of installing it on other smartphones as well."
[11:07] <cfhowlett> ntr0py, no it has not
[11:07] <ntr0py> k
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> flcl: it will, that's part of the idea behind it
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> flcl: think about the name....
[11:08] <ichat> ntr0py:  -  have you even used it before you declaired it your arch rival?
[11:09] <ichat> whoops sorry wrong tab....   i  meant  phoenixsampras
[11:10] <phoenixsampras> ichat: im using unity... its way slow... compared to Fedora 18
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you can't compare those, one is a shell, the other is a disribution
[11:10] <quetzacoatl> how do i remove something from my install?
[11:11] <ichat> i would call fedrora hardly  a worthy desktop...
[11:11] <ichat> i mean   ubuntu is also noticably slower than      slackware with   openbox...
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> quetzacoatl: use software centre
[11:11]  * Korny2 misses real gnome 2
[11:11] <quetzacoatl> its libav codec library
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !ot|ichat,
[11:12] <Chiko> trying to launch a program in terminal if i'm in the same path i can type ./a.out and it launches fine
[11:12] <quetzacoatl> how do i remove a library from ubuntu install
[11:12] <sakkemo> would you put swap on ssd or hdd if it will be only used for hibernating?
[11:12] <Chiko> if i come from another location and attempt to load it i get hit with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[11:12] <cfhowlett> quetzacoatl, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[11:13] <Chiko> what is the proper way to run a program with an absolute path
[11:13] <Chiko> ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ichat: if you install ubuntu minimal then install openbox and slim, you will have a super light OS :)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: you can press ALT+F2 and type the absolute path
[11:14] <ichat> cfhowlett:  -  i didnt start  the death to ubity sidestap if you please...
[11:14] <ichat>  
[11:14] <ichat> but not that we are on the topic of unity...     is there a way to get a  startbutton replacement into it..
[11:14] <ichat> i mean  i do like dash (most of the time)  but when im not cartain what  exactly im looking for  i stil prefere to scrool to a  list of availible options...
[11:14] <ichat> (sorry about the  \n
[11:14] <Chiko> Alt+F2 ?
[11:15] <Chiko> ubuntu server no gui
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> ichat: gmrun does similar things to dash, just not the docs
[11:15] <Chiko> want to be able to launch an app from the terminal regardless of my current position
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: then just type the command
[11:15] <Chiko> It's not working :)
[11:15] <quetzacoatl> tnx
[11:16] <Chiko> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: ahhh, then add the location of the binary to your PATH variable
[11:16] <Chiko> Surely there must be another way
[11:17] <Sumesh> I have a Wubi install right now, looking to convert it into a full install. What's the ideal partition scheme? I have a Windows partition, a shared NTFS partition and 50GB unallocated space after that (for Ubuntu full install).
[11:18] <Chiko> anyone know how to launch an application from the terminal with absolute pathing or even relative pathing to a degree
[11:18] <Chiko> only seems to work when i'm in the same folder as the application
[11:18] <Korny2> what do you mean?
[11:19] <Chiko> i have a program called a.out in a folder 0.1.3
[11:19] <Korny2> put the full path in it
[11:19] <Chiko> if im in 0.1.3 i can just type ./a.out
[11:19] <Chiko> when i try the full path i get Segmentation fault (core dumped) so i must be doing something wrong
[11:20] <Chiko> i may be doing the path wrong so was wondering if someone can provide a sample of how it should look
[11:20] <ntr0py> Chiko, maybe it links to something in cd?
[11:20] <mcurran> In the past I have successfully added a background to grub2 menu.  But this time around, I wanted to change the text (make it bold/bigger and modify the colors) and I would be psyched.  I finally got my picture to be used as the background, but there's a big black box covering the whole picture besides the border,  what's the deal with that?  Is there a grub-dev channel I can go to for help that anyone might know of?
[11:20] <Chiko> 0.1.3/a.out
[11:20] <Chiko> cd?
[11:20] <Chiko> the program?
[11:20] <ntr0py> current directorty
[11:20] <Chiko> ah
[11:21] <Chiko> the program does access a file within its current directory
[11:21] <ntr0py> that _may_ be it?
[11:21] <Chiko> but if the file didn't exist it would create it
[11:22] <Chiko> and it also shows a message before reading any file so i would see that
[11:22] <ntr0py> Chiko, launch it with ldd or even strace maybe to see what is going on?
[11:23] <Chiko> hmm
[11:23] <Chiko> few /usr/lib/x64_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so files~
[11:24] <ntr0py> those propably arent problems there
[11:24] <Chiko> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=W0bkbWyk
[11:26] <Chiko> yep it was that thanks
[11:26] <Chiko> strace helped
[11:26] <ntr0py> try launching it with strace from different directory to see the last syscalls before it secfaults
[11:26] <Chiko> fails on loading a file open("blah.txt", O_RDONLY);
[11:27] <Chiko> so just need to figure out how to run the app but also tell it to use its current directory
[11:28] <ntr0py> simplest would be a shell wrapper like sh -c 'cd /to/whatever/place; a.out'
[11:28] <ntr0py> or any other wrapper eg
[11:28] <ntr0py> start-stop-daemon
[11:29] <Chiko> you sir
[11:29] <Chiko> are a king amongst men
[11:29] <Chiko> thank you that works great
[11:29] <ntr0py> glad i could help
[11:33] <flcl> how to make subdomains like stuff.example.com on Ubuntu?
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: that's configuration you have to do with your webserver + dns server
[11:34] <ichat1> ActionParsnip:  - the thing i liked about the start buttun was that  if there was / is somthing avail that you do not know of...   you can browse to it...
[11:34] <ichat1> for example   / start / system  / configuration  / network / some odd feature you never use a 2nd time in your life...     ..  browsing there via logic  at times works batter than  searching for the correct  cli command..     even if  you would add seach to the cli  its not automagically a  gui replacement...
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: you're probably using apache2 and bind or your dns might be some other software
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: refer to #apache
[11:35] <flcl> yes, I have apache2 running
[11:35] <flcl> so this can be done totally by configuring apache2?..
[11:35] <m0453> ya
[11:35] <flcl> I used ISPmanager UI prviously for such purposes..
[11:36] <m0453> does any one here..??
[11:37] <m0453> how to login as root in ubantu 12.0
[11:37] <ichat1> m0453:  sudo su
[11:37] <flcl> has anyone used both ISPconfig and ISPmanager? Is there much difference between them?.. I never tried ISPconfig...
[11:38] <ichat1> ispmanager no... ispconfig   i did ....  for a while
[11:38] <phoenixsampras> so i need a 500 USD video card to run Unity properly?
[11:39] <flcl> ichat1, can ISPmanager create subdomains from UI?..
[11:39] <m0453> it gives me permission denied kind of error when i am installing some application on it so what should i do..?
[11:39] <ichat1> phoenixsampras:  - nonsence,   im having unity run off smoothly of  an intel  IGP  on a   sandybridge  celeron
[11:40] <ichat1> flcl:  - ispmanager i never used before...  only the other one
[11:40] <flcl> how to write message to someone, so the recepient sees my nickname yellow? :)
[11:40] <phoenixsampras> ichat1: yeh, fedora 18 was running smothly, but i like ubuntu, just unity is glitchy, i have nvidia 350m, i7
[11:41] <ichat1> flcl:     start your sencence with the persons  ´full´  nicname
[11:41] <m0453> install crclient in ubantu ..??
[11:41] <flcl> yes, does it offer possibility to make subdomains from web-user-interface?
[11:41] <m0453> ichat1
[11:41] <flcl> ichat1 testmessage
[11:41] <flcl> flcl testmessage
[11:42] <flcl> flcl: testmessage
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you don't have to use Unity :)
[11:43] <PenguinCSC> any of you can point me to a good resource for a step-by-step guide to server 12.04
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: my nvidia 6150LE onboard thing runs Unity just fine. I choose not to though
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> PenguinCSC: what do you want to achieve?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> PenguinCSC, perhaps you might wish to check into #ubuntu-server ...
[11:44] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: what do you use as desktop?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: gnome
[11:44] <PenguinCSC> I have a small computer technicians lab. I want to install a server to serve as a VM Machines and file sharing
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: could you walk me through the install of gnome on ubuntu 12.10 64b ?
[11:45] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, any personal preference on a taskbar like app?
[11:45] <PenguinCSC> cool, ActionParsnip - didn't know there's a server channel
[11:45] <ntr0py> phoenixsampras, apt-get install gnome-shell?
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: brb in 2 hours
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> since Suspend and hibernation doesnt work... i need to shutdown :(
[11:46] <ichat1> flcl - i rememember from isp config that  tha i fond it to resource-heavy  specialy on a single   server,  also the load mamagement in a so-called-custer was far from ideal...
[11:46] <ichat1> the upside was that  it was actually quite nice to work with  once it ran...      and subdomans etc  was easy  i even managed to  hack its code to support   SNI  witch is kind of unique   but usefull for a webhosting pannel
[11:46] <Guest____> .
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: with Unity shell and compiz WM
[11:48] <plumas_c> test
[11:48] <Amin> hello
[11:48] <flcl> do you use any UI panel for managing your server now?..
[11:48] <Amin> why is it that empathy wont go online cant change status
[11:48] <Amin> ?
[11:49] <Amin> im using ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell 3.6.2
[11:49] <Amin> i have 2 online accounts settings
[11:49] <Amin> i dont know why
[11:49] <flcl> ichat1: do you use any UI panel for managing servers?..
[11:51] <ichat1> flcl  zentyal  for  al  infra networking,     but im not currently running webservers anymore      and im not sure what i would run for it at pressent...
[11:52] <Chiko> ntr0py: do you know how to launch multiple instances of screen and to return back? this is what i currently have for one of them
[11:52] <Chiko> screen -S healthchecker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/; ./HealthChecker.exe' &
[11:52] <Chiko> screen doesn't seem to play too nicely with & and i can't start another screen
[11:52] <Chiko> or it does create a new one and trashes the old one
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: why keep the data in root's home?
[11:53] <ichat1> clcl  - im not sure if its supported  but i might try and  authentical  an  ispconfig   web-only (no email)   server against externaly ldap
[11:53] <Chiko> Security isn't that important for this project
[11:58] <ntr0py> Chiko, maybe try omitting the & and detatch from it with "ctr a d" then resume with screen -r healthchecker
[11:59] <Chiko> yeah that's how i've been doing it so far but as the number increases i want to automate it to some degree
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <Chiko> my end goal is to have them launch automatically on startup
[12:00] <ichat1> flcl:  -  wow, thy is hilarious,  didnt i just tell you hacked togheter  sni support for   ispconfig...  well basically my code was buggy as hell  sutch buggy that i desided to only share the concept with the  developers -  as a  ´ he what do you think of this...   ...    now they finally implemented it ... after like ages.
[12:01] <merry> hi all
[12:04] <ntr0py> Chiko, screen -S healthcheker -X stuff $"sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'\n"
[12:04] <merry> hello my fr
[12:04] <ntr0py> or such
[12:04] <haqe17> My ISP's DNS server keeps going down and its pissing me off, how can I change my ubuntu laptop to use openDNS or googleDNS?
[12:05] <ntr0py> haqe17, in gnome use network-manager to enter 8.8.8.8 as dns?
[12:05] <Kneferilis> hello, why would I want to use find instead of locate?
[12:05] <Chiko> mm not sure what to put for -X there is no existing session
[12:05] <Chiko> so will throw "No screen session found."
[12:07] <haqe17> ntr0py: what is the command to run it?
[12:08] <haqe17> ntr0py: i have network-manager package installed but, no network-manager binary
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> haqe17: set the interface to DHCP (address only) and you can set the IP of the name servers you want
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> haqe17: or you can run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[12:10] <haqe17> ok, thnx
[12:13] <ntr0py> Chiko, try screen -d -m -D healthcheker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'
[12:13] <ntr0py> -d -m -S
[12:13] <ntr0py> no -D
[12:14] <ntr0py> Chiko, screen -d -m -S healthchecker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'
[12:15] <ntr0py> should launch it in bg, then you resume with screen -r healthchecker
[12:15] <Chiko> that appeared to work will try with all 3
[12:15] <keelG> @ ActionParsnip & haqe17 - I cannot remmond making changes to resolv.conf directly - when using NM and DNSmasq
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> keelG: the file isn't resolv.conf that I editted
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> keelG: the file I recommended is used to generate /etc/resolv.conf, so the nameserver will be added each boot
[12:16] <keelG> ActionParsnip: I see & I apologize :)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> keelG: its cool :), every day is a school day
[12:17] <Chiko> ntr0py: king among men :P
[12:17] <Chiko> so it launches the screen with its param and then detaches (which runs in the background)
[12:17] <makara-> hi. I'm trying to get Avidemux 2.6. I downloaded avidemux3-core-2.6.1-r8442-Linux.deb and 3 others from their site, and I see them installed in Synaptic, but how do I run the blighter? It keeps opening up 2.5. When I check installed file for the deb (avidemux3-core:i386) it says only installed packages have installed files :S
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> keelG: handy technique for server installs
[12:18] <Chiko> not exactly sure what the -m does though? just enforces that a new screen session is created?
[12:18] <appamatto> Is there a way to test my .pam_environment file without logging in?
[12:18] <keelG> ActionParsnip: yea, quite handy indeed - I had no idea you could do that, I disabled DNSmasq interily (was also the easiet, for my Virtual Testlab requirements at the time).
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> makara-: I recommend you extract the files in their own folders and see what files there are. May give clues
[12:20] <ntr0py> Chiko, there is always "screen --help" or "man screen" :q
[12:20] <linuxman44> isubuntu eol?
[12:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi channel. Im trying to activate nvidia proprietary drivers. Is building the nvidia kernel module a step i must take?
[12:21] <martin__1> !nvidia | MonkWitDaFunk
[12:21] <linuxman44> ubuntuis deprecated
[12:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> !nvidia
[12:21] <Malsasa> linuxman44:  Deprecated?
[12:22] <makara-> ActionParsnip: thx!!
[12:26] <linuxman44> ubuntu is outdated and deprecated
[12:27] <Chiko> ntr0py yeah i had read it but it's not entirely clear :P
[12:27] <Chiko> thanks though it worked well ^_^
[12:27] <Chiko> oO
[12:29] <yoghrt> Hello, I've bought an ultrabook which has 24GB ssd and 500GB hdd, are there any articles on how to partition this configuration to have a feature like intel's instant-on? Or is it better to leave ssd to windows 8?
[12:29] <linuxman44> instant on? viagra could help.
[12:30] <erupter> how can I allow my ubuntu to accept vnc connections without a user logged in?
[12:30] <linuxman44> with backdoor
[12:31] <yoghrt> At the age of 44 you might need viagra
[12:32] <erupter> linuxman44, what do you mean?
[12:33] <kafee786> hi all
[12:33] <kafee786> i want to know about ubuntu
[12:34] <jimaji123> Can someone help me?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | kafee786
[12:34] <ooxi> Hi i have heard rumors about ubuntu switching to roling releases. Is there any cincrete Information available?
[12:34] <kafee786> regarding what
[12:34] <jimaji123> kafee, im having problems installing stuff.
[12:34] <booboo> what stuff?
[12:35] <ooxi> Jimaji123 "stuff"?
[12:35] <jimaji123> im having touble downloading games.
[12:35] <ooxi> Are you using synaptic or apt-get?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> ooxi, untrue
[12:35] <booboo> which games specifically?
[12:35] <jimaji123> Toribash
[12:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Im having problems installing nvidia drivers and i think i need to build the nvidia.kernel module to do.the job
[12:36] <jimaji123> When i download stuff, and open the folder it says " windows archiv"
[12:36] <booboo> is toribash in synaptic?
[12:36] <jimaji123> It opens windows archiv
[12:36] <martin__1> ooxi: ooxi : http://tinyurl.com/ajfdk7n
[12:36] <booboo> is toribash a windows program?
[12:37] <jimaji123> Umm, i think so
[12:37] <jimaji123> Booboo, ill link you to it.
[12:37] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can run ubuntu as a windows.program
[12:37] <jimaji123> http://www.toribash.com/
[12:37] <booboo> does it have a .exe extension?
[12:37] <jimaji123> Yes its exe
[12:37] <erupter> lolz
[12:37] <jimaji123> But, the problem is that when it opens in windows archiv
[12:37] <booboo> you need to install wine first in the terminal
[12:37] <jimaji123> It says
[12:38] <jimaji123> How do i get wine?
[12:38] <booboo> you need to install wine first in the terminal
[12:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Software centre
[12:38] <jimaji123> How do i install wine in the terminal
[12:38] <jimaji123> I know how to do CTRL-ALT-T
[12:38] <booboo> but that isnt a 100% solution. you can try tho
[12:38] <jimaji123> But what to type in it booboo
[12:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Graphical desktop.is more.friendly
[12:38] <booboo> type sudo apt-get install wine
[12:39] <booboo> type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:39] <jimaji123> Now it says sudo password
[12:39] <jimaji123> I dont have a sudo password.
[12:39] <booboo> type your password
[12:39] <jimaji123> Password for this computer?
[12:39] <booboo> yeah
[12:39] <jimaji123> Its not letting me type at all
[12:40] <booboo> thats fine. its hidden
[12:40] <jimaji123> Oh...
[12:40] <jimaji123> So when i type it
[12:40] <jimaji123> Press enter?
[12:40] <booboo> yeah
[12:40] <jimaji123> Umm, when i press enter.
[12:40] <jimaji123> It says
[12:41] <jimaji123> booboo, it says
[12:41] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[12:41] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[12:41] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[12:41] <jimaji123> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[12:41] <jimaji123> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[12:41] <jimaji123> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:41] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <jimaji123> booboo, did you see it?
[12:42] <TomyLobo2> my netcat doesnt accept "nc -lkvo nc.log 127.0.0.1 12345" (listen, accept multiple connections, verbose, hex dump to nc.log, listen on port 12345 on the local interface) - it chokes on the -o nc.log part
[12:42] <linuxman44> no
[12:42] <dr_willis> we really need to get some sort of package-manager-doctor utility....
[12:42] <booboo> thats so strange... i didnt expect that... hahaha
[12:42] <jimaji123> So, whats rong with it.
[12:42] <TomyLobo2> how do i make the netcat in ubuntu do a hex dump?
[12:42] <martin__1> dr_willis: lol :)
[12:43] <jimaji123> booboo, did you see what all it said?
[12:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> Dr willis. Do i definately need to build the nvidia kernel module before using nvidia proprietary drivers?
[12:43] <booboo> yeah. sorry bro maybe some1 else can help you out.. :)
[12:43] <jimaji123> =/
[12:43] <Myrtti> jimaji123: so which version of Ubuntu are you running
[12:43] <jimaji123> Anyone can help me install wine!
[12:43] <jimaji123> Myrtti
[12:44] <jimaji123> I think 12.10
[12:44] <dr_willis> jimaji123:  sudo apt-get install wine
[12:44] <martin__1> !wine | jimaji123
[12:44] <MonkWitDaFunk> I have nvidia accelerated graphics as options to activate
[12:44] <linuxman44> ubuntu gives me the chills
[12:44] <dr_willis> put on a warm sweater.
[12:44] <jimaji123> I did that dr_willis.
[12:44] <jimaji123> Its saying
[12:45] <TomyLobo2> nm i found nc.traditional
[12:45] <jimaji123> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:45] <jimaji123>  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[12:45] <jimaji123> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:45] <jimaji123> marcjr@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[12:45] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[12:45] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[12:45] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[12:45] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <MonkWitDaFunk> Use the graphical desktop jimaji123. go to software centre
[12:45] <IdleOne> jimaji123: Please stop flooding the channel. Use http://paste.ubuntu.com  for pasting
[12:45] <jimaji123> Ok im there.
[12:46] <jimaji123> Monkwitdafunk im in the software center.
[12:46] <Myrtti> jimaji123: please, please stop hitting the enter all the time
[12:46] <martin__1> jimaji123: apt-get clean all
[12:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> Search wine and install using your password
[12:46] <linuxman44> myrtti
[12:46] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade recently?
[12:46] <jimaji123> Witch wine.
[12:46] <martin__1> followed by sudo apt-get update
[12:46] <jimaji123> There are alot of wines.
[12:46] <linuxman44> lol
[12:46] <linuxman44> spanish one!
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay its updating
[12:47] <dr_willis> Im fond of Plum Wine. ;P
[12:47] <jimaji123> I typed in the update
[12:47] <booboo> maybe his sources.list is trashed?????
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay it says its done now.
[12:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> Oh lala plum wine
[12:47] <jimaji123> The update is done
[12:47] <jimaji123> In the terminal
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay, now monkwitdafunk
[12:47] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade recently?
[12:47] <jimaji123> This is another problem im having.
[12:48] <dr_willis> update with out a upgrade - is like Peanut Butter without Jelly. ;)
[12:48] <jimaji123> Is when im trying ti install wine.
[12:48] <jimaji123> It says
[12:48] <jimaji123> And i type in my password
[12:48] <jimaji123> It gives me a error
[12:48] <jimaji123> Saying
[12:48] <jimaji123> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[12:49] <Myrtti> jimaji123: how many times do we have to ask you to not use the enter so much?
[12:49] <linuxman44> choose another wine!
[12:49] <jimaji123> Umm, alright.
[12:49] <jimaji123> I have choosen another one.
[12:49] <Myrtti> linuxman44: be helpful or be quiet
[12:49] <jimaji123> It says it again =(
[12:49] <jimaji123> The error that i posted above.
[12:50] <booboo> jimajil23: is this a fresh ubuntu install?
[12:50] <jimaji123> I think its 12.10
[12:50] <jimaji123> How do i check?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: can you pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy wine; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[12:50] <booboo> when did you install ubuntu?
[12:50] <dr_willis> !version
[12:50] <martin__1> jimaji123: lsb_release -a
[12:50] <Myrtti> jimaji123: use pastebin.
[12:51] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i dont understand,
[12:51] <Myrtti> !pastebin | jimaji123
[12:51] <jimaji123> Whats pastebin
[12:51] <jimaji123> Hmm, you guys want me to give you a screen shot?
[12:51] <Myrtti> jimaji123: no, use paste.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <jimaji123> What is it.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: its a way to show lots of text, rather than spam the channel
[12:52] <dr_willis> I often wonder how people manage to break apt so badly...
[12:52] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip maybe wine is i368 on x64? then dpkg --add-architecture i386 would help?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: one word:  PPAs    :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: possibly
[12:52] <trivquad> Hi there all I just don't get it ever since I have been using 12.10 and I go into recovery mode the dang menu dosen't work!
[12:52] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  they klnow how to use a ppa but not a pastebin web site? :)
[12:53] <trivquad> Am I missing somwthing?
[12:53] <jimaji123> Ntr0py were you want me to type in add architecture i386?
[12:53] <dr_willis> You shouldent need to add achitecutre for wine
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run the command and copy the text, go to the pastebin site and paste the text there, hit paste and copy the address in your address bar. Paste it here
[12:53] <jimaji123> k
[12:53] <fusion271> Any of you guys ever work with a rack server with a drive array?
[12:54] <trivquad> Up and down keys, nothing, Tab key. nothing
[12:54] <jimaji123> Lol i dont undertand ActionParsnip.
[12:55] <texla> Need application for pdf files..I want to add text and print an existing pdf file
[12:55] <jimaji123> it opens archive manager, and then it says An error occurred while loading the archive
[12:55] <ntr0py> jimaji123, open a terminal and run " apt-cache policy wine; lsb_release -a; uname -a"
[12:55] <booboo> pdf: sudo apt-get install okular
[12:56] <ntr0py> then paste it
[12:56] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  the amd64 wine package runs 32 bit windows apps?
[12:56] <jimaji123> Ok ntropy i did it now what.
[12:56] <trivquad> Dang it why does the recovery menu not working?
[12:56] <ntr0py> jimaji123, paste the response
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run the command I gave and copy the text, go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the text there. Hit the paste button and wait for the page to change. Copy the URL in the address bar and paste it here
[12:56] <jimaji123> Alright.
[12:57] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  ive never had to worry about the bitnness of windows apps i run with wine...
[12:57] <TomyLobo2> cool, didnt know that
[12:57] <jimaji123> Ok i hit paste ntryopy
[12:57] <jimaji123> What what to do.
[12:57] <TomyLobo2> jimaji123 is either a troll or honestly hasnt used the web a lot...
[12:57] <dr_willis> i honestly wonder how many windows apps truely are 64bit....
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy the new address in the browser address bar
[12:57] <trivquad> This is realy embaresing for ubuntu. I can 't spell and I am so pissed I dont care
[12:58] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608598/
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: probably few, SQL 64bit is sweeeeeet
[12:58] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  oh quite a few... mostly open source apps on the desktop :P
[12:58] <TomyLobo2> and some games
[12:58] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  i cant think of any that ive ever used that ive noticed..
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: there are spaces after lsb_release and uname.
[12:58] <dr_willis> occasinally i see a '64bit whatever binary' for  a game.. but not seen that in ages..
[12:59] <BluesKaj> TomyLobo2, lots of ppl don't know about pastebin
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[12:59] <jimaji123> ?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: you ran:  lsb_release-a; uname-a
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: hence command not found :)
[12:59] <texla> booboo, okular is for kde ..has to be something for unity???
[12:59] <dr_willis> !ocr
[12:59] <jimaji123> Action, ill link you what its saying now,....
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> texla: you can run okular in gnome if you want, there is no rule to say you cannot run KDE apps in Gnome
[13:00] <dr_willis> KDE apps can run in Unity
[13:00] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:00] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608606/
[13:00] <jimaji123> There you go, action
[13:00] <dr_willis> years ago there could be weirdness with doing kde in gnome and so forth.. but not seen any problems in years
[13:00] <Mrokii> Hello. This is not directly Ubuntu related, but since upgradium Chrome to V 24.x I don't hear any sounds in the browser anymore. The same happened with Chromium today. Downgrading to 22.x made all sounds working again. Did anybody else have this issue?
[13:00] <booboo> texla: yeah. but try it anyway. works for me
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy and paste the command, instead of trying to type it
[13:00] <keelG> But still requires/depend on KDE libs - so be weary installing them both, it will result in a lot of packages :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  you mean sounds in flash games? or what sounds?
[13:00] <jimaji123> Okay
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[13:01] <jimaji123> Put it in the chat once more.
[13:01] <jimaji123> k
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: notice the spaces....
[13:01] <dr_willis> lsb_release                -a                 ;   uname        -a                  ;
[13:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:01] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, hmm wine1.4-amd64 would pull a lot of i368 pkgs on my system
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> keelG: oh its a lot of packages, but if space is a luxury then why not :). Tonnes of people install k3b for some reason
[13:01] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  miranda, tortoise svn
[13:01] <texla> ActionParsnip, Aware that they can but running of flash drive limited space ....okular required lots of added programs
[13:01] <jimaji123> Dr_willis put it togeather so i can paste it.
[13:01] <TomyLobo2> firefox and thunderbird seem to be 32 bit though
[13:01] <sandstrom> Something on my machine is sending emails, using SENDMAIL, how can I find out what initiates this process?
[13:02] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, i think he should run "dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update ; apt-get -y -f install"
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> texla: oh definitely, but it will run is my point
[13:02] <dr_willis> jimaji123:   you may want to go spend an hr reading some bash tutorials.. if running a simple command is confuseing you
[13:02] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip here u go
[13:02] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608608/
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: yay
[13:02] <jimaji123> Why yay?
[13:02] <Mrokii> dr_willis: No, *all* sounds played in Chromium and Chrome when updating them to version 24.x
[13:02] <jimaji123> Is it work now or something?
[13:03] <phoenixsampras> so, apt-get install gnome-shell, will install gnome full desktop?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: ok your OS is 64bit, run:   sudo apt-get install wine     and pastebin the whole output please
[13:03] <keelG> ActionParsnip: True story - however it also adds to the complixity of the system maintain :)
[13:03] <timgd> How do I install sun-java on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: The session with Unity shell is a full Gnome desktop. Just has a different shell.
[13:03] <dr_willis> phoenixsampras:  It should pull in everything needed.. but it may not get all the gnome shell extras
[13:03] <dr_willis> !java | timgd
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> keelG: indeed
[13:03] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip here u gooo...
[13:03] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608612/
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> timgd: sun don't own java, its oracle java
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> timgd: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !info wine1.4
[13:04] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip did u see the link i gave u?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[13:05] <jimaji123> I never heard of that.
[13:05] <ntr0py> timgd, you could try "apt-add-repository ppa:webupd8team/java" then "apt-get update" and "apt-get install oracle-jdk7-installer" if you are ok with 3rd party repos
[13:05] <TomyLobo> "Binary Emulator" - i thought wine is not an emulator? :)
[13:05] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I mean, when upgrading Chrome or Chromium to V. 24.x, each browser stopped playing any sound.
[13:05] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i never heard of it before.
[13:05] <phoenixsampras> and what ill install the full gnome experience?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: open software centre and you can enable it there.
[13:05] <booboo> i think jimajil23's sources list is probably in need of editing...
[13:06] <jimaji123> How do i enable it actionparsnip?
[13:06] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  theres been some odd flash issues going on lately.  No idea if thats related or not
[13:06] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: you can use software centre, or you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:07] <sandstrom> Some process on my ubuntu server is sending emails, `/var/log/mail.log` shows about 1 attempt per minute, how can I investigate?
[13:07] <jimaji123> I dont understand.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> sandstrom: try resetarting the mail daemon, it may have got stuck
[13:07] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i dont understand.
[13:07] <jimaji123> Im on the software center.
[13:07] <jimaji123> Now were to go?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[13:08] <ntr0py> jimaji123, launch software sources and check the universe box
[13:08] <jimaji123> I dont see a universe  box
[13:09] <ntr0py> you have software sources opened?
[13:09] <jimaji123> Yes i do.
[13:09] <jimaji123> Its opened.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: all yours dude, i've never used software centre
[13:09] <jimaji123> Oh im in the software sources now
[13:10] <jimaji123> Ntr0py im in the soft ware center.
[13:10] <ntr0py> go to last point in edit menu "software packessources" or so
[13:10] <booboo> chech the "community maintained open source software"
[13:10] <booboo> chech the "community maintained open source software (universe)"
[13:10] <jimaji123> Its already checked
[13:10] <ntr0py> hmmm
[13:11] <subhojit777> Hello, how can I run a process in remote server from my local machine?
[13:11] <jimaji123> Do i click revert?
[13:11] <booboo> no let it do an update
[13:11] <_methods> subhojit777: use ssh
[13:11] <ntr0py> yes leave it checked
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> subhojit777: you can SSH over and run it
[13:11] <jimaji123> Its already checked.
[13:11] <_methods> !ssh
[13:11] <subhojit777> ActionParsnip, _methods thank you
[13:11] <_methods> np
[13:11] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip, so what now.
[13:13] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip : i do suspect that wine -> wine1.4 -> wine1.4-amd64 packages depends on some i368 packages which will not be installed until i368 arch is activated. i had similar issue with skyle on my system
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: close software centre and run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:14] <jimaji123> Ntr0py i cant install anything right now.
[13:14] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip : im just not sure if thats really the problem here
[13:14] <jimaji123> Its reading packages right now actionpasnip
[13:15] <jimaji123> ...
[13:15] <jimaji123> Ill paste u what happened
[13:15] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608648/
[13:15] <vmalep> #ubuntu-phone
[13:16] <flintser> jimaji123: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:16] <jimaji123> actionparsnip, did u see?
[13:16] <jimaji123> How?
[13:17] <flintser> paste /etc/apt/sources.list jimaji123
[13:17] <flintser> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and dont make changes
[13:17] <flintser> yet
[13:18] <Pici> !gksudo
[13:18] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, jimaji123 : wine1.4-amd64 depends on multiarch-support
[13:18] <flintser> Pici: sry :)
[13:18] <jimaji123> Okay Flinster its opened
[13:18] <jimaji123> the text editor opened up.
[13:18] <jimaji123> It has alot of info
[13:18] <flintser> paste it
[13:18] <jimaji123> Ok
[13:19] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608658/
[13:19] <flintser> that is all?
[13:19] <jimaji123> Yes.
[13:19] <flintser> you miss a lot of repositories
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: I think you add arch thing will fly
[13:19] <jimaji123> I just got it not too long ago.
[13:20] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, jimaji123 : i _think_ "dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update ; apt-get -y -f install" would add i368 arch and enable the installation of multiarch-support which would enable wine to install.  but thats only a guess use at own risk
[13:20] <jimaji123> Like before i came here
[13:20] <dr_willis> thats definatly NOT a default/standard sources.list file
[13:20] <jimaji123> .Well, send me link were you downloaded ubuntu from
[13:20] <flintser> 12.04 or 12.10? jimaji123
[13:20] <jimaji123> I downloaded ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <lundy> day 2 on Ubuntu and I have to say <3 it, added in few keyboard shortcuts to help change between workstations <3
[13:20] <jimaji123> I got 12.10
[13:21] <dr_willis> jimaji123:  you have done somthing to your sources.list or somthing did
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[13:21] <flintser> country?
[13:21] <flintser> iäll gen you a new list
[13:21] <flintser> jimaji123: ok do that instead
[13:21] <dr_willis> my 12.10 sources.list ->   pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:21] <jimaji123> ok.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> lots easier
[13:21] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1608662/
[13:21] <jimaji123> Wait, flinster do what.
[13:21] <flintser> jimaji123: do ActionParsnip 's command
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy that long command I just gave and run it
[13:22] <jimaji123> Ok
[13:22] <jimaji123> I did.
[13:22] <jimaji123> Now what...
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: did a file download?
[13:22] <jimaji123> I dont know.
[13:22] <dr_willis> verify your sources.list to see what it looks like now.....
[13:22] <jimaji123> But when i tried to close it it says its still in process
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     does it upgrade more apps?
[13:22] <Yizi> having issues with networking on my server
[13:22] <Yizi> can't ping anything outside the network
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Yizi: can you ping IPs?
[13:23] <Yizi> i can ping internal IP and other internal servers
[13:23] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip
[13:23] <Yizi> but not google
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Yizi: try:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.8
[13:23] <Yizi> cant ping it
[13:23] <jimaji123> When i did the sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <jimaji123> Its updating stuff
[13:23] <flintser> jimaji open new terminal and do this
[13:23] <flintser> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list && sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: grep gateway /etc/network/interfaces
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: good, your sources.list file was garbage, you now have a decent one with stuff enabled
[13:24] <flintser> nothing, im too late :c
[13:24] <flintser> sorry again
[13:24] <linuxman44> i think ubuntu is a bit bloated
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run:   sudo apt-get upgrade   and get fully updated. Then try the wine install
[13:24] <Yizi>   gateway 192.168.201.250
[13:24] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608668/
[13:24] <flintser> looks good to me
[13:24] <Sp00ki> hey guys,how can I make my video card fan slower, because he is so loud, since I am use Ubuntu
[13:25] <jimaji123> Action, how to do the wine install again?
[13:25] <flintser> sudo apt-get install wine-1.4
[13:25] <flintser> correct me if im wrong
[13:25] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: and 192.168.201.250 is connected to other nets/WAN and has ip-forwarding enabled? (it is your router?)
[13:25] <Yizi> yeah it was working fine
[13:26] <Yizi> I have another server running a db and it functions fine too
[13:26] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[13:26] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[13:26] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[13:26] <jimaji123> E: Unable to locate package wine-1.4
[13:26] <jimaji123> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine-1.4'
[13:26] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123:  sudo apt-get install wine
[13:26] <IdleOne> flintser: its wine1.4 no -
[13:26] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: "ip r s"
[13:26] <flintser> ActionParsnip: does that install newest?
[13:27] <Yizi> default via 192.168.201.250 dev eth0  metric 100
[13:27] <Yizi> 192.168.201.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.201.99
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> flintser: the newest in the repo, yes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> !info wine
[13:27] <flintser> IdleOne: say it to jimaji123 :) its wine1.4 not wine-1.4
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> flintser: note the source in brackets ;)
[13:28] <flintser> ahh i'm always confused with these kind of thing :s i just install them from winehq :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> flintser: depends on the app, some don't like 1.5
[13:29] <Sp00ki> hey guys,how can I make my video card fan slower, because he is so loud, since I am use Ubuntu
[13:29] <Yizi> server internal IP is 192.168.201.99
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: what video chip?
[13:29] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: sounds all correct...
[13:29] <Sp00ki> AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
[13:29] <ntr0py> Sp00ki, if its nvidia the proprietary drivers can control fans
[13:30] <Yizi> also the server can be accessed via external IP
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: do you have the proprietary driver installed?
[13:30] <Yizi> i can see the pages
[13:30] <Yizi> PM me and I will send it you
[13:30] <Sp00ki> they doenst work cant install them
[13:30] <flintser> ActionParsnip: i like to use stable releases too unless there is something that works better in newest version
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: that'll be why then
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> flintser: I just avoid wine, everything I need is native
[13:32] <flintser> i use it for some games, nothing else
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> flintser: makes sense
[13:32] <ntr0py> flintser, even those become native :-)))
[13:32] <flintser> no steam beta for me :(
[13:32] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: "sudo iptables -vL OUTPUT"
[13:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:33] <Yizi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[13:33] <kmc_> Hi All, can anyone tell me a KDE/Qt app which will allow me to use my PC to render dlna audio from a server on my lan?
[13:33] <Yizi> here are no rules
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> flintser: it will come
[13:34] <ntr0py> kmc_ vlc
[13:34] <kmc_> ntr0py: Doesnt woprk. Could yopu be more pecific? Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
[13:35] <kmc_> specific*
[13:35] <ntr0py> kmc_ its hidden in the playlist somewhere
[13:36] <kmc_> I know what you're referring to, but it doesn't work. I start the server (my phone) it sees my mythtv setup, but VLC does not show the phone as an available server
[13:36] <kmc_> curiously, vlc doesn't show the myth server either
[13:37] <ShapeShifter499> I  run a ubuntu netbook system that I turned into my server for vnc, a wifi router, and various other stuff through a bit of googling, but I can't seem to find an answer for this question though, I would like my ubuntu netbook system to boot into a "server" mode by default, no gui, but at times I'd like to manually start unity (or any other desktop window manager) so I may start firefox to troubleshoot issues with internet
[13:37] <ShapeShifter499>  or have it so I could start vnc or push  X11 apps to another computer, any ideas on what I can do?
[13:37] <TakeItEZ> !nox | ShapeShifter499
[13:38] <ntr0py> kmc_ in the playlist under local network it should show up... hmmm but here it doesnt display it neither... maybe it needs an additional module?
[13:38] <Yizi> @TakeItEZ any other ideaS?
[13:38] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: sry no
[13:39] <Yizi> Thanks anyway
[13:39] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: you'd check "tracepath www.google.com"  where it stops. check router-settings again...
[13:39] <ntr0py> kmc_ oooh if i run "sudo vlc-wrapper" it shows up there... hmm its some kind of network permission problem
[13:40] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  moveing apps from one X desktop to another.. is a trick icve seen done a few timnes in the past.. but its was never a well done thing
[13:40] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  best way. have individual vnc instances for each app. you can connect to from each desktop
[13:40] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, I'm assuming I'd run "unity" or "gnome-session" to start a window manager correct?
[13:40] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: "startx"
[13:40] <ntr0py> kmc_ but vlc shouldnt be run as root for sure
[13:40] <Yizi> good point there, stops after the gateway 192.168.201.250
[13:41] <kmc_> ntr0py: well spotted, I'll keep trying ... thanks for the help so far man
[13:41] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: so examine your router-settings
[13:41] <Yizi> doing it now
[13:41] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis I've noticed that some updates to grub, wipe out my default config, I may forget I have "text" set, any more permanent solution?
[13:42] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I didn't know you could have individual vnc sessions for each app
[13:42] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  if you edit /etc/default/grub it should ask if its going to chanve that file
[13:42] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  just run a minimal window manager + the app...
[13:43] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  you DONT have to set up vnc to share the current visible desktop.. thats a windows limitation ;)
[13:43] <Yizi> worked! ok problem was the GW
[13:43] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I've successively forwarded X11 apps to my android device, old PowerBook G4 running 10.5, and another laptop with ubuntu just fine btw
[13:44] <ShapeShifter499> through ssh -x
[13:44] <dr_willis> but you asked how to move the apps back and forth.. thats a totally differnt sort of task
[13:44] <Yizi> big ups for @TakeItEZ thanks
[13:44] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: wrong vlan settings?
[13:44] <kmc_> ntr0py: I don't even see the myth server in vlc as root
[13:44] <Yizi> changed the interface settings restarted the service and boom
[13:44] <ShapeShifter499> back in forth? no I meant forwarding them via ssh -x
[13:45] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: glad you found it
[13:45] <Yizi> where u from pal?
[13:45] <TakeItEZ> DE
[13:45] <Yizi> nice one
[13:45] <linuxman44>  de_dust?
[13:45] <Yizi> UK here
[13:45] <linuxman44> UK is a dump
[13:45] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  ive seen tricks where you open app on pc1. then push it to the desktop of pc2
[13:45] <Yizi> agreed
[13:45] <ntr0py> kmc_ hmm i just did a clean install on x64 quantal "sudo apt-get install vlc" and then it showed up only as root here
[13:45] <dr_willis> your use of the term push ;) is confuseing heh..
[13:45] <ShapeShifter499> ah no I never have done that
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, sorry
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> nor do I know how to
[13:46] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  its a idea that people ask about every so often.. a neat idea.. but not really a doable idea
[13:47] <ShapeShifter499> sounds like you would need the same libraries on both comps, instead of just running a X11 server on the other
[13:49] <dr_willis> you are still just running the app on one pc.. you are just changeing the DISPLAY on the fly...
[13:49] <dr_willis> I did it.. years ago... just to see if it could be done. ;)
[13:50] <ShapeShifter499> cool
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> would be only good for apps like firefox where you might want to pick up where you left off somewhere else
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> on another pc
[13:54] <Peyam> hi
[13:54] <Peyam> I get an error in evolution
[13:54] <Peyam> It refuses to send mails
[13:54] <Peyam> it wants me to see http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 pk1sm9061630lab.0 - gsmtp
[13:54] <Peyam> and this address doesn't exist
[13:56] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis about that text-only mode, do I add it to "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="  or "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX"  or both?
[13:57] <Esokrates> smspillaz
[13:57] <Esokrates> smspillaz ping
[13:57] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[13:58] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, what is the difference between the two?
[13:59] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: honestly i don't know
[14:01] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: iirc both will alter the "linux ..." line in grub.cfg, but why one is called DEFAULT, the other isn't... ask the weird grub-devs
[14:01] <changer> hi asll
[14:02] <changer> *all
[14:02] <ert3go> hi changer
[14:02] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[14:02] <changer> i kinda got an update problem
[14:02] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis ok reboot went well, thank you guys for the help
[14:02] <changer> i have no more desktop after updating my fresh 12.10 install
[14:02] <changer> i had only the option create document,create folder, change background
[14:03] <changer> after auto log in
[14:03] <changer> so i created folder, looked for firefox, and now im here
[14:03] <changer> all works , just not the desktop
[14:03] <changer> no app launcher, no " start"  menu to put it in windows style
[14:03] <changer> no panels :)
[14:04] <changer> am i alone in this ? :)
[14:04] <ska> I am missing my /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket, and some dbus related tools are borked.
[14:04] <Esokrates> changer, did you get a private message from me?
[14:05] <changer> got it m8
[14:05] <ska> Is there a fix?
[14:05] <D0minat0r> Anyone knows any good video splitter for ubuntu server?
[14:06] <changer> hmmm anyone know how i can get my "desktop"  back ?
[14:06] <ntr0py> kmc_, you might like to look at djmount pkg
[14:06] <linuxman44> buy a new one.
[14:06] <changer> lol
[14:06] <changer> no seriously, i have no normal interface left
[14:06] <ska> dpkg-reconfigure dbus seems to be helpful.
[14:07] <changer> took me 10 minutes to get to a folder, so i could open filemanager and find firefox lol
[14:07] <changer> and can not reach terminal loool :)
[14:07] <ska> changer: open a terminal and type xterm :)
[14:07] <ska> changer: can you go to virtual console? ctrl-alt-f2?
[14:08] <Dave77> which text editors do you all use? I tried vim, emacs but find them too difficult to use..
[14:08] <ntr0py> kmc_, "sudo apt-get install djmount" "mkdir ~/upnp" then you can browse in ~/upnp with any player you like
[14:08] <ntr0py> it uses fuse
[14:08] <ska> Dave77: vim is the standard one, so it makes sense to spend time to learn it. There is no perfect editor.
[14:09] <kmc_> ntr0py: word from the VLC folks is that it can't be a renderer
[14:09] <ntr0py> kmc_ "sudo apt-get install djmount" "mkdir ~/upnp" "djmount ~/upnp"
[14:10] <kmc_> ntr0py: that doesn't explain our failed upnp service discovery, so i'll keep working on it
[14:10] <ntr0py> kmc_ huh? vlc cant render upnp/dlna stuff?
[14:10] <ntr0py> i doubt that
[14:10] <kmc_> ntr0py: That's whaty I was told in #videolan
[14:11] <kmc_> there's a difference between being able to play from a source discovered using upnpo, and being a dlna renderer
[14:11] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, I rebooted this system remotely, I just walked over to it to see what it looked like, not that it bothers me too much but the main screen it shows TTY1 doesn't have a cli login instead its just blank with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner, I have to Ctrl+Alt F2 to get a cli login, know why?
[14:11] <ntr0py> kmc_ im not sure if i understand the terminology right here but "renderer" sounds to me like "player" which can discover and play
[14:11] <Dave77> is there anyway to switch off brace {} matching in vim...? it slows my armbox down.. lags bad..
[14:13] <kmc_> renderer, means i can leave it running on my PC, ans send audio to it emotely from another device
[14:13] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: no idea.
[14:13] <ntr0py> kmc_ aaah ok like a service
[14:13] <Pici> Dave77: I'd ask in #vim
[14:14] <kmc_> yeh I guess it could be a service but really, it should be something transient whioch advertises itself when it becomes available
[14:14] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, ok well, other than that everything seems fine, hostapd (for my wifi router) and other services restarted just fine
[14:18] <captainspock23> hello
[14:18] <Guest4426> desktop folders do not open for 30 seconds in new ubuntu studio... anyone else get this prob?
[14:18] <captainspock23> how do you get ubuntu for android smartphone?
[14:19] <captainspock23> is it opensource, or do you have to pay for it?
[14:19] <Pici> !phone | captainspock23
[14:19] <captainspock23> is it free?
[14:20] <Guest4426> 30 second delay opening desktop folders. anyone else get this?
[14:20] <Pici> captainspock23: afaik, there has not been any code released, see #ubuntu-phone for discussion
[14:20] <captainspock23> is there a build on sourceforge.net?
[14:21] <iceroot> captainspock23: open-source has nothing to do with pay for it or pay not for it
[14:21] <Pici> captainspock23: Did you try asking in the channel that I mentioned? They have more information than we do.
[14:21] <eddd> is there any tool to display image from bash? i mean create window with some given image from command-line
[14:21] <captainspock23> ok
[14:21] <deadmund> eddd: display
[14:21] <TakeItEZ> eddd: display foo.jpg
[14:21] <deadmund> eddd: there is a command called display (it requires an x server though)
[14:22] <jonsaint> hi all. im trying to convert a dvd using devede but it keeps crashing when i try to covert it, giving me a bug error. can anyone recommend an alternative or help getting this going?
[14:22] <Guest4426> Is there a better channel to ask why I'm getting a 30 second delay opening desktop folders?
[14:23] <Pici> eddd: cacaview, (in the caca-utils package) can do basic image viewing on the console.
[14:24] <Captain_Proton> Anyone having problem with flash play back in chrome
[14:24] <Guest4426> Is there a better channel to ask why I'm getting a 30 second delay opening desktop folders?
[14:25] <oczekp_> #stackoverflow
[14:25] <Captain_Proton> Guest4426,  launch nautilus from the term and see if there any errors
[14:25] <keelG> +1 @ Captain_Proton
[14:26] <kmc_> anyone know a dlna renderer for ubuntu, preferably KDE/Qt
[14:27] <eddd> thx ALL!
[14:27] <mysteriousdarren> Guest4426: in vanilla ubuntu?
[14:28] <philinux> doing a clean install but have 4 users on separate home partition. Any problems I might encounter?
[14:29] <ntr0py> argh libupnp segfaults
[14:29] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: just make sure your permissions are correct, you should be fine
[14:30] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: do i just create the original admin user during install
[14:30] <Captain_Proton> kmc_, plex media server or ushare
[14:30] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: then the others after installation
[14:30] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: are you creating 4 seperate guests?
[14:31] <ntr0py> kmc_ weird now vlc 2.0.5 works browsing and playing on x64 quantal here
[14:31] <ntr0py> w/o root
[14:31] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: 1 admin user 3 kids
[14:31] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu RT.
[14:31] <tongcx> hi, i'm new to irssi, can anyone see my post?
[14:31] <martin__1> tongcx: loud and clear :)
[14:31] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu RT.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: what is 'Ubuntu RT'?
[14:32] <Beginner> Ubuntu Real Time
[14:32] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: I would create an admin user, and then later create seperate home directories. Plus make sure you change permissions for the rest as well
[14:32] <tongcx> what does /q query means?
[14:33] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: the users directories will not be formatted as home on sep partition
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: you will need the kernel headers, then compile the driver
[14:33] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu Real Time.
[14:33] <hillary> hi, help me on how to install aptana studio in ubuntu 12.04
[14:33] <Beginner> So I get an .ko?
[14:34] <ntr0py> Anyone here using SDR with RTL or FunCubeDongle?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> hillary: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/04/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin/
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: more than likely, yes
[14:34] <dr_willis> Beginner:  you would compile the module for your kernel
[14:35] <Beginner> An with the .ko I have to make insmod mydriver.ko ?
[14:35] <dr_willis> Beginner:  sudo modprobe modulename
[14:36] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: therefor he had to move the .ko into the /lib/modules/* and run depmod -a before
[14:36] <ntr0py> Beginner, but remember you have to redo this on every kernel update or automate it with dkms somehow
[14:36] <dr_willis> TakeItEZ:  normally one dosent just move modules around or copy/download them from places.. ;) so im not sure what hes doing.. but i bet its going to be wrong
[14:37] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: why separate partitions? the permissions can be changed
[14:38] <changer> hi
[14:38] <changer> im back :)
[14:38] <tongcx> hi everyone, how to use /query to send private message?
[14:38] <ntr0py> like you did
[14:38] <changer> after purging i kinda completely locked up, and now i have all again :)
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> tongcx: /query somenick blahbla but:
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> !pm | tongcx
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> tongcx: PM ~ /query
[14:40] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: only 1 partition sda3 for all users - not being formatted sda1 root
[14:41] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: ok that works
[14:43] <Beginner> Do anyone know a link where to read about coding, installing and calling a driver from an application in Ubuntu?
[14:44] <mysteriousdarren> Beginner: what specifically are you looking for?
[14:45] <Beginner> I have to learn how coding, installing and calling a driver from an application in Ubuntu (I don´t know yet the device).
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: read the 'install' or 'readme' files in the extracted archive
[14:46] <hillary> hi, help me on how to install aptana studio in ubuntu 12.04
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> hillary: I gave you a link
[14:47] <huttan> Anyone here who are familiar with configuring ldap server/clients? I have some problem with shared sudo authentication
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> hillary: why ask for help, when you won't use the links provided?
[14:49] <dr_willis> Beginner:  i think you need to start with a smaller goal.. like learning a programing language
[14:49] <huttan> Is there a separate help channel for ubuntu server? Or this one covers it ?
[14:49] <ntr0py> Anyone here knows where all those scary chromium-browse appamor verbosity in dmesg would originate from?
[14:50] <dr_willis> huttan:  theres #ubuntu-server
[14:50] <huttan> dr_willis: thanks
[14:51] <ntr0py> maybe the definition for chromium-brower in appamor is messed up somehow? i dont want to disable it completely since its a browser
[14:51] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  ive not heasrd of anyone else with the issues.. but theres been some flash/browser chaos over the last few days
[14:51] <MadEchidna> okay, so I'm trying to install ie7 with winetricks and I keep getting and error saying I can't install it on a 64 bit systerm
[14:52] <MadEchidna> tried a couple different guides on the wine arch but no joy
[14:52] <hillary> ActionParsnip,  sorry i did not see am really for that
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> hillary: no worries :)
[14:54] <ntr0py> dr_willis, maybe its because im running it from tryout/ramdisk but that seccomp verbosity is kinda annoying
[14:55] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  not seeing any messages here when im running it..
[14:56] <ntr0py> ok
[14:56] <kmc__> anyone know a dlna renderer for ubuntu, preferably KDE/Qt?
[14:57] <ntr0py> dr_willis, aah ok its because of the old kernel of the iso im running quantal from
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> kmc__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88754/upnp-dlna-client-player-recommendations
[14:58] <dr_willis> kmc__:  what do you mean by a dlna Renderer?r
[14:58] <Noriandir> hi. I'm having problem sharing my desktop through a vnc server
[14:58] <dr_willis> kmc__:  theres numerous video players that can play from DLNA/UPNP servers
[14:59] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Can someone recommend a c++ IDE for Ubuntu?  I'm *really* hoping to use vim keystrokes.
[14:59] <kmc__> dr_willis: know any names? nobody else does....
[14:59] <dr_willis> kmc__:  names of what?
[14:59] <MadEchidna> no WINE buffs around eh
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> kmc__: vlc 2.0 can do it
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> MadEchidna: tried in #winehq
[14:59] <dr_willis> most video players can these days....
[14:59] <dr_willis> !info djmount
[14:59] <kmc__> please note I do not want a player/client, I want a renderer
[14:59] <dr_willis> kmc__:  and i have NO idea whatyou mean by a renderer...
[14:59] <dr_willis> if youy mean a server..  theres like 4 in the repos
[15:00] <dr_willis>  apt-cache search dlna server
[15:00] <dr_willis> !infi minidlna
[15:00] <dr_willis> !info minidlna
[15:00] <_methods> kmc__: are you talking about something to do transcoding on the back end
[15:00] <kmc__> ActionParsnip: #videolan tell me it cannot. on top of that, nobody knows how to even get the upnp service discovery to work, so it cant even be a client
[15:00] <kmc__> let me explain....
[15:01] <dr_willis> kmc__:  use djmount and any video player can access the dlna servers on the network..
[15:01] <dr_willis> just loaded vlc here.. it sees my dlna server downstairs..
[15:01] <_methods> kmc__: if you're looking for a backend transcoder i'd try plex or serviio
[15:02] <ntr0py> kmc__, what exactly you want do accomplish?
[15:02] <kmc__> i pick up my phone, which is a upnp server. it has media on it. likewise, so does my myth server. The phone can see the myth server as a source of music, or play music from the phone itself. Then, you can choose a renderer....this is the device (hopefully my ubuintu nachine) that will actually recieve that music and play it.
[15:02] <hillary> ActionParsnip,  kindly resend it again i have missed and the earlier link is invisible.
[15:03] <ryankask> where are keyboard layout options stored?
[15:03] <Niladem> hi
[15:03] <everestt> Wanted to try out Musique 1.2.1, got this message: "./musique: error while loading shared libraries: libphonon.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ...what's happening? and how do I solve this?
[15:03] <dr_willis> kmc__:  xbmc can  be a target for that i belive.. i saw that setting just the other day in the xbmc options
[15:04] <kmc__> so... android... dlna control... chosse source (mythtv server, phone, any other dlna server on the lan)...choose music to play...choose renderer...sound comes out of renderer
[15:04] <phet> hi! any recommended program for basic video edition?
[15:04] <phet> like making the video much smaller in size, or making some parts of it to run faster
[15:04] <dr_willis> you need a client that can be controlled by other upnp devices..
[15:05] <kmc__> dr_willis: I don't need all the other features though, just the renderer...don't want to be always running xbmc and myth on one machine,,,,
[15:05] <dr_willis> phet:  numerous tools in  the repos for that.
[15:05] <phet> dr_willis: can you name a few? or how can I search them?
[15:06] <dr_willis> kmc__:  you have to have somthing running for it to see what to render to..   so its up to you i guess..   use an app like the ubuntu-controler android app to start xbmc when you need to render to it perhaps.
[15:06] <dr_willis> phet:  ffmpeg. mencoder,  and the dozens of front ends to them.  then you have the nonlinear video editor tools
[15:06] <dr_willis> :~$ apt-cache search video editor
[15:06] <Niladem> i love windows
[15:07] <kmc__> dr_willis: that defeats the plug-n-play purpse of upnp. This needs to work for a random dude who walks into my lan with an iphone and no knowledge of my system or anything technical
[15:07] <dr_willis> kmc__:  so you want him to be able to walk in.. and start playing porn on your pc while you or the kids are doing word processing?
[15:07] <dr_willis> with no control?
[15:07] <phet> dr_willis: whats the difference between linear and non linear?
[15:07] <dr_willis> phet:  no idea really. ;)
[15:08] <kmc__> dr_willis: yes.
[15:09] <Niladem> Sorry for the french, Il y un Francophone qui pourrait m'aider pour un problème de LDAP svp :)
[15:10] <Yizi> need help adding A record to DNS on UBUNTU server
[15:10] <huttan> Yizi: you running a bind server ?
[15:11] <Yizi> yes
[15:11] <Yizi> everything is setup but i can't see any A records
[15:11] <huttan> Yizi: they are stored in either /etc/bind or /var/lib/bind
[15:11] <moes> It was suggested in the channel that I use okular to type on a pdf file and then print it...I cannot type anything in the blanks...What am I doing wrong??
[15:11] <dr_willis> kmc__:  i was just able to use allshare on my android phone and have it play to xbmc on my pc..
[15:11] <huttan> Yizi: is the zone configuration
[15:11] <Yizi> I've modified the zone and still no luck
[15:12] <huttan> Yizi: did u reload rndc or restart bind?
[15:12] <Yizi> yes
[15:12] <huttan> Yizi: ok u probably modified wrong, can u please pastebin the file u modified?
[15:12] <kmc__> dr_willis: that's exactly the aim of the game... only.... I don't want all th other media centre features, since I'm already running myth
[15:13] <Yizi> I will PM u the settings
[15:13] <kmc__> So I'm trying to find something which just acts as a dlna renderer, that's all
[15:16] <ntr0py> kmc__, i found sth old and gnomish http://gmrender.nongnu.org/
[15:17] <ntr0py> btw which dev pkg would contain glib.h?
[15:19] <jpw> ntr0py: a`apt-file glib.h
[15:19] <TakeItEZ> !find glib.h
[15:20] <ntr0py> cool stuff
[15:20] <TakeItEZ> ntr0py: free choice
[15:20] <TakeItEZ> btw "apt-file search glib.h"
[15:20] <jpw> root huh?
[15:21] <jpw> I thought that username was banned network wide.
[15:22] <dr_willis> Nope. ;)
[15:22] <dr_willis> otherwise there would be no Puppylinux users  on freenode. ;)
[15:22] <therianthrope> Anyone know where I can report abuse from a user connecting via a try.cloud.ubuntu.com/ account?
[15:22] <jpw> heh good point
[15:23] <bazhang> therianthrope, #freenode
[15:23] <bazhang> !rootirc | jpw
[15:23] <therianthrope> No. This user connected to an IRC network I am staff on and abused on that network. I want get details on who was operating the Ubuntu Cloud account at that time.
[15:24] <bazhang> therianthrope, that has nothing to do with this channel, or ubuntu support
[15:24] <Pici> therianthrope: You could try #canonical-sysadmin
[15:24] <Noriandir> how do I open port 5900 for use in vnc?
[15:25] <dr_willis> Is Canonical keylogging my instance, or monitoring my traffic?
[15:25] <dr_willis> answer:  Nope
[15:25] <dr_willis> https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/faq/
[15:25] <dr_willis> Where I can I find real-time support for Ubuntu in the Cloud?
[15:25] <dr_willis> You can join us in IRC on irc.freenode.net, in the #ubuntu-cloud channel
[15:25] <compdoc> Noriandir, whats closing the port?
[15:26] <jpw> therianthrope: What was it connecting too? If you read the server MOTD you'll notice that freenode runs a port scanner to find open proxies.
[15:26] <Noriandir> not sure. i've added it to the router port forwarding, and to iptables...
[15:26] <Pici> jpw: they're not talking about freenode
[15:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.. so you can lease a server on the cloud.. ;)  I really dont use such things.. guess its similer to the amazon ec2 stuff?
[15:27] <jpw> Pici: clearly im not with it today im off
[15:27] <Noriandir> compdoc, not sure. i've added it to the router port forwarding, and to iptables...
[15:28] <g0bl1n> SoundConverter still not working for FLV's, right ?
[15:28] <compdoc> Noriandir, which vnc server do you use? vino? Port 5900 is for desktop sharing, meaning someone has to be logged onto the console
[15:28] <Noriandir> compdoc, i've tried vino and x11vncserver
[15:29] <compdoc> well, ubuntu has no firewall out of the box
[15:29] <compdoc> does it work locally?
[15:29] <ntr0py> kmc__, http://gmrender.nongnu.org/ works here as renderer i compiled it "./gmediarenderer" is uses gstreamer to render/play and can be controlled with "./gupnp-av-cp" or android controlpoint i guess to play songs from my avm fritzbox upnp server. but the renderer is cmdline only it seems
[15:29] <Salyangoz> Hello can i get newbie help here?
[15:30] <compdoc> you want help to be a newbie?
[15:30] <Noriandir> compdoc, yes. with both vino and x11vncserver. but not with other pc in the network
[15:30] <ntr0py> kmc__, neat its only 76 kb
[15:31] <compdoc> Noriandir, i dont understand what you mean. You cannot connect to the computer from another pc on the same lan? that must mean its not working
[15:32] <Salyangoz> I was wondering if I could access my ntfs partition on a backup hdd if I deleted another partiton (i didnt know existed) flagged as boot
[15:32] <Salyangoz> I believe the boot flagged 200mb partition is preventing me from accessing the data of said backup partiton
[15:33] <Salyangoz> I cant access the drive either from windows or my usb ubuntu os
[15:34] <Salyangoz> I believe the hdd was formatted via osX but i dont have any mac os`s around
[15:34] <Zirconi> MBR or GPT？
[15:34] <Salyangoz> Zirconi I think its gpt
[15:35] <Salyangoz> Is there a way to check to be sure?
[15:36] <jhutchins_wk> Salyangoz: The boot flag only affects how certain DOS systems see the partition.  Deleting a partition does not affect access to other partitions on the drive.
[15:36] <Zirconi> maybe you should use UEFI to boot this HDD, I guess``
[15:37] <g0bl1n> SoundConverter time to finish starts incrementing till no stop... wow
[15:37] <passion> anyone know a easy way I can get ubuntu running on a mac w/ bootcamp & windows on it
[15:37] <dr_willis> passion:  in a vm perhaps
[15:38] <passion> yeah thats what I was thinking
[15:38] <karpuragauram> Hello everyone. I have lucid and I did a force fsck on reboot.  Now for some reason it is performing disc check every time it starts.  How do I disable that
[15:38] <dr_willis> hmm..
[15:38] <dr_willis> !fsck
[15:38] <pcmu2_> Hello, I was hoping somebody could help me. I searched on google but I can't find the awnser myself. When I open a .sh with a dubble click it just opens the terminal. I don't get the "Run in terminal Display Cancel Run" anymore. The file is marked as "Allow executing..". Is there something I can reset to get the default behaviour?
[15:39] <Salyangoz> Sorry disconnected
[15:39] <dr_willis> karpuragauram: make sure theres no  /forcefsck file perhaps?
[15:39] <passion> too bad because most of my memory is already ate up …even though linux is lighter on resources I am sure w/ parallels installed the memory will be pretty much spent
[15:40] <karpuragauram> Yes I did do forcefsck. Should I check in the home/ for it
[15:40] <jhutchins_wk> karpuragauram: ext4?
[15:41] <karpuragauram> Nope 3
[15:42] <TomyLobo2> sooo, this ubuntu phone, is it on the market yet?
[15:42] <Pici> TomyLobo2: #ubuntu-phone
[15:43] <passion> ubuntu coming out with all this stuff even running on android.. i can't believe they haven't developed a way to install on macs that isn't too technical like they did for windows
[15:43] <JuJuBee> I  have a couple of users that cannot logout.  Nothing happens when they click logout ( they are using kde)
[15:44] <pcmu2_> Hello, I was hoping somebody could help me. I searched on google but I can't find the awnser myself. When I open a .sh with a dubble click it just opens the terminal. I don't get the "Run in terminal Display Cancel Run" anymore. The file is marked as "Allow executing..". Is there something I can reset to get the default behaviour?
[15:44] <ntr0py> kmc__, here is the binary i compiled if you want to try (it relies on gstreamer to work) use "cat gmediarender.gz.base64 | openssl base64 -d | gzip -d > gmediarender" :     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609449/
[15:46] <entreri> hey guys, there is a window that can't be resized and it goes beyong the edge of my screen, there are options I need to change below, how can I rezise ubuntu to make it smaller ?
[15:46] <entreri> it is a recurrent problem
[15:46] <jhutchins_wk> pcmu2_: Does the file begin with #!\bin\sh?
[15:46] <TomyLobo2> "ubuntu is the leading linux on arm"? uhhh, only if you discount android
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> pcmu2_: Linux doesn't care what the file extension is.
[15:47] <pcmu2> jhutchins_wk: yes it does
[15:47] <TomyLobo2> jhutchins_wk, #!/bin/sh
[15:47] <TomyLobo2> this isnt windows :)
[15:47] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> TomyLobo2: You are correct.
[15:47] <Vivekananda> so Karpuragauram is also my nick
[15:48] <pcmu2> it just opens a new terminal whenever I double click
[15:48] <Vivekananda> so I just wanted to ask , where should I look for the forcefsck fiel
[15:48] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: ls -l /forcefsck
[15:48] <pcmu2> It doesn't seem to want to run the script
[15:48] <ntr0py> entreri, you can move it with [alt] mouseclick anywhere in window to reach the edges
[15:48] <Vivekananda> file on lucid?? It is like a hidden . file under home ?
[15:49] <entreri> ntr0py: nice, that solves my problem, thanks !
[15:49] <Vivekananda> TakeItEZ: Should I do sudo rm /forcefsck to stop the reboot checks or do I have to edit the /forcefsck file ?
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: does it even exist? if it exists, remove it
[15:50] <Vivekananda> it is an emty file too
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: sure
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: it should have been removed after fsck was done.
[15:51] <Vivekananda> TakeItEZ: I see a file named forcefsck in the root / directory now
[15:51] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: sudo rm /forcefsck
[15:53] <Vegeta85xyz> !list
[15:53] <devsys_> dumb bot.
[15:54] <SAngeli> how to know what repository to add for using ntfs-3g under "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l" ?
[15:54] <TomyLobo2> how evil is a package that adds a file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[15:55] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: that has nothing to do with being evil. if you grab stuff from outside the repos, it tries to get updates via apt
[15:56] <TomyLobo2> devsys_, the bot was very likely assessing that vegeta guy's intentions correctly
[15:56] <TakeItEZ> by adding the repo
[15:56] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  ntfs-3g is installed by default
[15:56] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-3g
[15:56] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ,  I'm thinking about making a package that adds a repository (and nothing else, pretty much)
[15:57] <SAngeli> dr_willis, but when I try to seach for it I do not find it: dpkg --get-selections | grep ntsf-3g
[15:57] <SAngeli>  I do not get anything in return
[15:57] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  the google chrome package does that i recall..
[15:57] <TomyLobo2> so does steam
[15:57] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: add-apt-repository exists
[15:57] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  no idea on that.. It should be installed allready
[15:57] <SAngeli> ok. I will look into this
[15:58] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:58] <dr_willis> and see. ;)
[15:58] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ, that adds to sources.list, no?
[15:58] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  no it does not
[15:59] <dr_willis>  TomyLobo2  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/STUFF
[15:59] <TomyLobo2> but the manpage says it does
[15:59] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: either sources.list or sources.list.d   according to man-page
[15:59] <dr_willis> these days you rarely see anything touching the actual sources.list
[15:59] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ, so it randomly picks? :)
[15:59] <dr_willis> except in badly done blogs. ;) and guides that are written by old timers.
[16:00] <Vivekananda> I have asked this before but just t confirm. I have lucid and gnome in it was easier on my system. Now lucid is complaining about partial or full upgrade and I would like to go the next lTS. But I heard that precise is very resource heavy. Also I am afraid of breaking programs that I installed manually ( non repo) . I need advice on both these
[16:00] <dr_willis> ppa entries are in sources.list.d
[16:00] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: nope, ppas are created in sources.list.d, all other patterns in sources.list (as i read it)
[16:00] <TomyLobo2> yep. my repo is not a ppa
[16:00] <TomyLobo2> ergo it goes to sources.list
[16:01] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Lubuntu is a light desktop good for lower end pcs./
[16:01] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: true, so forget about add-apt-repo, its crap
[16:01] <ntr0py> kmc__, there is also rygel for gnome in the repos works even nicer
[16:01] <TomyLobo2> so, .deb that adds it :P
[16:01] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I see what you mean. I only had to type sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda1
[16:02] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i dont think mkfs.ntfs is part of the ntfs-3g packag3e. ;)
[16:02] <testk> Bot2help: i dont think mkfs.ntfs is part of the ntfs-3g packag3e. ;)
[16:02] <dr_willis> may be part of the ntfsutils package
[16:02] <Bot2Help>  i/NN dont/NN think/VBP mkfs/NNS ntfs/NNS is/VBZ part/VBG of/IN the/DT ntfs/NNS 3g/CD packag3e/NN / ;/: /  (0)
[16:02] <ntr0py> kmc__, actually "rygel-playbin"
[16:02] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: or just a "sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/myrepo.list http://blabla.foo && apt-get update"
[16:02] <felp> Guys is there anyway to take drivers from backtrack to ubuntu?
[16:02] <testk> Sry for my test
[16:03] <dr_willis> felp:  drivers for what?
[16:03] <SAngeli> dr_willis, well. What to do than? I need to format the hd with the NTFS filesystem and all I know is that I have to use ntfs-3g
[16:03] <felp> Like i have 2 devices that work in back track that dont ubuntu 2 network iterfaces
[16:03] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  Err.. No.. You dont have to use ntfs-3g to FORMAT..
[16:03] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  your command will format it to ntfs just fine.
[16:03] <TakeItEZ> !find /sbin/mkfs.ntfs
[16:04] <dr_willis> for read/write access to a ntfs-filesystem - ntfs-3g is used..
[16:04] <felp> 1 wifi 1 usb eth0
[16:04] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is a specific command/tool to mount ntfs filesystems
[16:04] <SAngeli> dr_willis, but, will the command be using the ntfs-3g or what will it be using? This to know. I already know this is not so Ok to install NTFS under Linux
[16:05] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is a package name and a specific command.. You are worrying too much
[16:05] <felp> Any idea dr willis?
[16:05] <testk> Bot2Help: Guys is there anyway to take drivers from backtrack to ubuntu?
[16:05] <Bot2Help>  guys/NNS is/VBZ there/EX anyway/RB to/TO take/VB drivers/NNS from/IN backtrack/NN to/TO ubuntu/VB  (1)
[16:05] <dr_willis> the ntfs-3g package adds support for ntfs under linux. ;)
[16:05] <D0minat0r> someone good at ffmpeg?
[16:05] <moes> Trying to remove okular "sudo apt-get remove --purge ~/path/to/okular"...getting E:couldn't find package
[16:05] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  so mkfs.ntfs will format it to ntfs just fine.
[16:05] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  you then MOUNT it with the ntfs-3g command
[16:05] <jrib> moes: apt-get expects a package name, not a path
[16:05] <TakeItEZ> moes: apt-get wants packagenames not pathes
[16:06] <bazhang> Bot2Help, hi
[16:06] <testk> ?
[16:06] <iceroot> how to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[16:06] <testk> Bazhang I turn off bot
[16:06] <dr_willis> felp:  given the lack ot details.. not really. see what modules they are using and see what ones are in ubuntu.. the 2  os's should  be very close in that area
[16:06] <dr_willis> !info ntfsprogs
[16:06] <dr_willis> Hmm.. they have moved ntfsprogs to ntfs-3g ;)
[16:07] <SAngeli> dr_willis, and how about the mount line, I have to add into fstab? Currently I have "/dev/md0	/mnt/array_0  	ext4	relatime,acl,errors=remount-ro 0 1" what sould it be? Perhaps like this? "/dev/md0	/mnt/array_0  	ntfs-3g	relatime,acl,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[16:07] <felp> Os is bt5r3 and lucid
[16:07] <moes> jrib Thanks its removing now !!!
[16:07] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  md0? You are using a array with ntfs? why
[16:07] <SAngeli> dr_willis, for RAID-1 using mdadm software-raid
[16:08] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  never used that stuff. so no idea.  You are planing on letting windows also see this raid eh?
[16:09] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: When I upgrad to precise through the net, will I get a choice of which manager I choose to download ?? Will it not download the default ( gnome I guess) ??  Also will Lubuntu have the same functionality as gnome. Are there things I cannot do on Lubuntu that I can on gnome eg run compiz ??
[16:09] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  it will update to ubuntu  unless you also have the lubuntu packages installed as well.. it updates whatever you got installed.
[16:09] <dr_willis> one of the reasons lubuntu is lighter.. is its not using compiz...
[16:10] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I mainly use this array under windows and access to the shares via samba. So far all is perfectly running under ext4 filesystem but I have few issues for NTFS needs, like custom folder icons, desktop.ini file and so on. So, I decided to change filesystem
[16:10] <dr_willis> thats nothing to do with the desktop. ;)
[16:10] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  good luck. ;) you are in an area ive never gone.
[16:10] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  so you are  going to use it as ntfs on a linux server... and share it to a windows box via samba?
[16:11] <danman1453> does anybody know why in win7, i have to disable ipp to print to a shared ubuntu printer?
[16:11] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: So if I install Lubuntu now in lucid then it will automatically get me gnome + lubuntu when I upgrade right ? Also I meant "desktop manager" when I said desktop. :)
[16:11] <aZuZu_> hi to all
[16:11] <SAngeli> dr_willis, Thanks. Yes. Is this wrong? I need to use this server as NAS and webserver. Can you please only advise me for the mount point line I have to add on fstab?
[16:11] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  yes. but it will be easier to just install lubuntu-desktop later
[16:11] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  it seems weird to convert it to ntfs just to share.. samba wont care...
[16:11] <aZuZu_> need help with arm kernel compile ...
[16:12] <dr_willis> in fact samba may have issues with ntfs being shared.
[16:12] <aZuZu_> WARNING: vmlinux.o(.text+0x14500): Section mismatch in reference from the function map_page_strongly_ordered() to the function .init.text:create_mapping()
[16:12] <dr_willis> I recall having to twiddle with fstab options to mount a ntfs partion to share it once... been a while.
[16:12] <Vivekananda> Do you mean to say that there is no difference at all in terms of programs execution and evironment in between gnome and L ?? Do you mean to say that if I disable or unistall compiz in gnome then it becomes lubunutu for all intents and purpose??
[16:12] <danman1453> you would think that the ipp settings in CUPS would play nice with anyone trying to use it.
[16:12] <aZuZu_> it is gcc 4.3.3
[16:12] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  compiz is a compositing window manager...  Lubuntu uses openbox as its wndow manager.
[16:13] <jim8888> does the /etc/ directory contain any sensitive information? i wish to back it up to save configs etc, but do not want to leak passwords etc...
[16:13] <dr_willis> compiz is ONLY a window manager.
[16:13] <SAngeli> dr_willis, this entire array needs for fileserver and backup. I need to make sure that what I replicate here is exactely like on windows and icons+permissions+.... are not. This is why I need to have an alternative to ext4
[16:13] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: at least /etc/shadow holds the password-hashes
[16:13] <D0minat0r> someone good at ffmpeg?
[16:13] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i dont know if switching to ntfs will help in any way.. and may cause more issues..
[16:14] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I am testing so far
 how secure are the hashes? could someone decrypt them to cleartext?
[16:14] <danman1453> i have a ntfs volume shared through samba with no issues
[16:14] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  could be you may nees some more of the advanced features of samba also.
[16:14] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: yes, if he has time and computerpower
[16:14] <dr_willis> samba will be translating permissions no matter what fs you use i imagine
[16:15] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: ok . But my question is a bit broader and I took compiz as an example only. I use current gnome to run eclipse , servers, firefox and xchat and things like that . Will all these programs be available to me on lubuntu. What will I not have and what will I have. ?? Bacially , what are the major differences between gnome and lubuntu
[16:15] <Callum_> How can I adjust overscan on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[16:15] <dr_willis> and doing other translations
[16:15] <SAngeli> dr_willis, will see. I can always switch back to ext4 at anytime. How abotu the fstab line? Any help?
[16:15] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  the desktop dosent matter
 with rainbow tables and brute force cracking?
[16:15] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i just follow the examples at the ntfs-3g homepage.
[16:15] <SAngeli> ok
[16:15] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: just a matter of time and/or computerpower
[16:15] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  the fact you want to share it.. will  mean you may need to set up specific permissions/options also
 ok i will exclude that file from my backups!
[16:16] <SAngeli> dr_willis, yes all these done via Samba
[16:16] <SAngeli> dr_willis, the official homepage for linux would be?
[16:16] <dr_willis> ive only setup my ntfs to be shared vis samba as guest acconts
[16:16] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  the ntfs-3g homepage..
[16:17] <SAngeli> I do not find it googling around.
[16:17] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: Does it mean that if I install , say , xubuntu or say puppy linux it wont matter ?? How will I execute the eclipse gui on it if for some reason puppy or x doesnot support it . I still have to learn a lot so request a pointer to reading stuff or a detailed answer if possible :)
[16:17] <dr_willis> has examples and faqs and some good docs on ntfs
[16:17] <SAngeli> I get so many entries and do not know which one is it. I believe it should be this one:
[16:17] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Puppylinux is a totally differnt disrto.. but  it should be able to run the same apps
[16:17] <SAngeli> dr_willis, http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/
[16:18] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  all the *buntus are the same core OS . with differnt desktops and some other changes.
[16:18] <fomg-optimize> Test
[16:18] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Puppylinux is perhaps the  weirdest of all Linux Disrtos in existance. ;P
[16:18] <fomg-optimize> Hi! I am having issues with access time and somewhat transfer speed on my SSD. I have discard on file system and have run trim manually repeatedly. This is how it looks http://temp-share.com/show/f3Yg9hjkn. I have the same jitter no matter what scheduler I use. How does it look for you? Run gnome disks benchmark please if you have the time?
[16:19] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: when you say "different desktops with some changes" what are those differences and changes between L and gnome ??
[16:19] <Vivekananda> and why is puppy weird :)
[16:19] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  see the LXdE homepage to see wht features lxde has
[16:20] <dr_willis> Start usiing puppy... and get into it.. then go use any other disrto and you will see
[16:20] <dr_willis> Only disrto ive seen that comes close to Puppys 'uniqueness' is Tiny Core Linux.
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> I really like them, but they trade off performance for less ram/cpu usage
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> A bit too hardcore
[16:21] <dr_willis> and Puppy is a feral mongral with Rabies compared to Tiny Core.
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> But that is the goal after all
[16:25] <pranavk> how to remove execute permission from all files but not directories recursively. I tried -X and -x but both are removing the execute bit off from both directories and files but i don't want execute bit to be stripped off from ddirectories.
[16:26] <Pici> pranavk: something like: find /path -type f -exec chmod -x {} \;
[16:26] <TakeItEZ> pranavk: find /path -type f|xargs chmod -x
[16:26] <theadmin> Pici: You gotta escape the {}, too.
[16:27] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, my bad, it's zsh being all featureful :D
[16:28] <danman1453> pranavk, i believe you can strip permissions of just files with #chmod -x /some/dir/to/strip/*.*
[16:29] <TomyLobo2> can i build ubuntu packages on a debian machine?
[16:31] <adiaswin> tomylobo: no
[16:31] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: *.* won't match filenames without extension (and its not recursive)
[16:32] <danman1453> i thought the problem was it was being recursive...
[16:32] <TomyLobo2> tomywin, have you tried?
[16:33] <danman1453> would chmod -R -x /some/dir/* work?
[16:33] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: no
[16:33] <theadmin> danman1453: That'd do it with directories too.
[16:33] <tomywin> no
[16:33] <danman1453> ah....
[16:34] <danman1453> just not the working directory
[16:34] <danman1453> ?
[16:34] <TomyLobo2> tomywin, then how do you know?
[16:34] <TakeItEZ> chmod -R -x /path && chmod -R +X path/     should do, but i'd prefer find/xargs
[16:35] <danman1453> i have no experience with the find...
[16:35] <danman1453> how does it compare?
[16:35] <theadmin> danman1453: find /some/dir/* -type f -exec chmod -x '{}' \;
[16:35] <ejv> you're in luck, there's an enormous wealth of documentation!
[16:35] <ejv> man find
[16:35] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: find /path -type f|xargs chmod -x
[16:36] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: you just search files and chmod them
[16:36] <danman1453> so, using the find, then add the chmod permission changes to just the results?
[16:36] <TakeItEZ> yes
[16:36] <tomywin> packages are the newest ubuntu and debian does not install due consseque
[16:36] <tomywin> lack of dependencies
[16:36] <tomywin> and from what I know you could only do it if you are using debian testing
[16:37] <theadmin> danman1453: Both versions (mine and what TakeItEZ suggested) will strip executable bits from files only, recursively.
[16:37] <danman1453> hmmm.... i will have to try it out
[16:37] <tomywin> and soryy my bad english
[16:37] <tomywin> im using google translate
[16:37] <Pici> tomywin: Would #ubuntu-br be more helpful?
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: just run "find /path -type f"  and see what you get. the -exec... /xargs just would run chmod on those result-lines
[16:38] <danman1453> still works with files with no extensions?
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: a file is a file
[16:38] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: extensions are for humans
[16:38] <dr_willis> silly rabbit. :)
[16:38] <tchaffee> I've been trying for over a week now to get Ubuntu installed on a laptop with UEFI boot.  I've followed this guide, but Ubuntu just won't boot. I get the UEFI grub menu, but then it hangs after that.  Any suggestions?
[16:39] <tomywin> I know ubuntu but it  a real mess
[16:39] <tchaffee> The guide I've followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | tchaffee
[16:39] <ejv> brilliant MonkeyDust lol
[16:39] <_methods> tchaffee: what kind of laptop?
[16:39] <theadmin> TakeItEZ: Extensions aren't for humans, they are a silly thing that only sees any use in Windows nowadays. You can determine the filetype by the contents.
[16:40] <ejv> ubottu should really just scrape all chat data, and chime in when it finds something in its database
[16:40] <dromios> has anyone had an issue with installing ubuntu on a raid1?
[16:40] <tomywin> I was already banned from it for nothing
[16:41] <TakeItEZ> theadmin: yes and thats why extensions are for humans who think they need shelscript named .sh or a text .txt
[16:41] <tchaffee> _methods: It's a Toshiba P845t.
[16:41] <danman1453> to limit the find search, i could use path/*.ext -type f instead of path/* -type -f, to limit it to specific files/extensions, correct?
[16:41] <dromios> It installs fine and then after it restarts it just hangs after the asus splashscreen with a blinking -
[16:41] <theadmin> TakeItEZ: Those... "humans" have another name which I'd rather not pronounce here.
[16:41] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: man find (-name '*.txt'
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: Grub did not install correctly.
[16:42] <danman1453> ok
[16:42] <danman1453> thanks for the correction to my methods... it does seem easier than chmod'ing each and every directory/file.
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[16:42] <dromios> it's hardware
[16:44] <danman1453> TakeItEZ, neat.
[16:44] <salamare> 110
[16:44] <salamare> .
[16:44] <dromios> jhutchins_wk it's a hardware raid but I don't get prompted for any special drivers during the installation
[16:44] <TakeItEZ> danman1453: read the man-page or some tutorials about gnu-find, it is a handy tool
[16:45] <rene_> Wie kann ich die Themen in Xubuntu 'ndern_
[16:45] <danman1453> TakeItEZ, will do. like i said, never used it before.
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> !de
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> dromios: That symptom is typical of grub not being in the mbr.
[16:45] <TakeItEZ> jhutchins_wk: does that affect UEFI too?
[16:46] <fomg-optimize_> Is this amount of jitter in both access time and read speed normal for an SSD? http://s3.postimage.org/sfcc8f0pd/2013_02_04_171201_1366x768_scrot.png
[16:46] <tchaffee> _methods: Any suggestions?
[16:46] <_methods> no sorry i was just reading about samsung laptops bricking when trying uefi install
[16:46] <_methods> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2026807/booting-linux-via-uefi-can-brick-some-samsung-laptops.html
[16:47] <_methods> just wanted to make sure you weren't on a samsung lol
[16:47] <tchaffee> _methods: Thanks. Worth a shot.
[16:50] <tparnell> exit
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> ethtool not working properly in ubuntu 12.04 ethtool -C eth0 adaptive-rx on ; ethtool -c eth0 | grep 'Adaptive RX'
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> root@dvcliftonhera150:~# ethtool -C eth0 adaptive-rx on ; ethtool -c eth0 | grep 'Adaptive RX'
[16:50] <dhanasekaran> Adaptive RX: off  TX: off
[16:50] <savio> i was reading one blog he suggest to add /tmp to memory or something to improve the performance is it really helpful and safe to do?
[16:50] <tchaffee> Anyone else who can help me with installing Ubuntu to my UEFI laptop? I've followed the guide. Tried everything I can find on the forums. It just won't boot Ubuntu when in UEFI boot mode.
[16:51] <theadmin> savio: That will only really improve performance on hard drive systems. SSDs are lightning-fast and that will result in no overall improvement
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> TakeItEZ: It's typical of the system not finding a bootloader, whatever it's architecture.
[16:51] <savio> theadmin, i have hdd system
[16:51] <theadmin> savio: Oh, then yeah. Well, you need to have a lot of RAM for that to work out.
[16:51] <savio> theadmin, will 3 gb be enough
[16:52] <theadmin> savio: ...Dunno really. All depends on how much temporary data you'll be storing. Probably.
[16:53] <DejaVu> Hello. I'm using 12.04. Missing minimize/maximize/close buttons. Did compiz-decorator --replace to fix but after closing the terminal buttons disappeared again. Any help? Thanks (newbie)
[16:53] <theadmin> DejaVu: You forgot to detach the process: compiz-decorator --replace &disown
[16:53] <savio> theadmin, any idea because my /tmp right now is 183 kb
[16:55] <DejaVu> theadmin: "Starting gtk-window-decorator"... and that's it. Didn't do any good
[16:55] <theadmin> DejaVu: uh. What desktop are you using?
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> Hi, any solution for mount.ntfs problem?
[16:56] <theadmin> SunilJoshi: Which is?
[16:56] <savio> SunilJoshi, what is your problem?
[16:56] <savio> explain?
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> mount.ntfs  high CPU usage
[16:57] <DejaVu> theadmin: gnome
[16:57] <theadmin> DejaVu: As in, gnome-shell? gnome-panel? Unity?
[16:57] <SunilJoshi> i am on ubuntu 12.10 and whenever i perform or system performs disk operation CPU usage increases drastically
[16:57] <SunilJoshi> Dual boot: Windows 7 + Ubuntu12.10
[16:58] <savio> SunilJoshi, how you come to know that your system performance increase ?
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> i am using top command to see the process consuming COU
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> CPU*
[17:00] <rumel> ebooks
[17:00] <DejaVu> theadmin: if i would only know the difference. It's not Unity
[17:01] <savio> SunilJoshi, is it happens on every disk operation or some specific one
[17:02] <theadmin> DejaVu: Hamsters. I haven't worked with plain GNOME at all, not since it was released anyway, don't know much. But why are you trying to use Compiz in GNOME? They use Mutter.
[17:03] <JessicaW> howdy all. I logged into a machine on my network and noticed that it has an eth0, eth0.2010, and a eth0.2125. I've never run into this before. What are these sub interfaces?
[17:04] <DejaVu> theadmin:  that's what i found before start asking here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1755868
[17:04] <ejv> could be network aliases, bridges, etc.
[17:04] <theadmin> DejaVu: That's for 11.04, that was on Gnome2.
[17:04] <theadmin> DejaVu: That cannot be followed.
[17:05] <theadmin> DejaVu: Try: mutter --replace &disown
[17:05] <dmsuperman> How can I get Ubuntu to resolve my windows laptop by hostname? My workgroup is the same in /etc/samba/smb.conf, my /etc/nsswitch.conf contains hostswins
[17:05] <dmsuperman> hosts: wins
[17:06] <DejaVu> theadmin: legit. It worked. whole bunch of Clutter-WARNING but buttons are back
[17:07] <theadmin> DejaVu: That's normal for pretty much every Gtk app, you can safely ignore that
[17:07] <DejaVu> theadmin: hey, big thanks for your time and knowledge
[17:08] <savio> SunilJoshi, there is bug in launchpad see Bug #392204
[17:11] <TomyLobo2> i'm using reprepro. someone has a deb line like "deb http://host/deb binary/"
[17:11] <TomyLobo2> how do i mirror that into precise?
[17:13] <GunArm> man upgrading my 8TB raid5 to raid6 is going to take ~100 hours.  is it even safe to let my drives churn for that long?
[17:14] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I have a problem regarding my wireless card
[17:14] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I'd ask on the forums, but it seems I never received the confirmation email
[17:16] <przemek_> hello Dears , i wanna install raid 0+1 on my 4x300gb disk how musch space will be left for use? thank you for the answe
[17:18] <mnbr> any1 used fedora 17?
[17:19] <ejv> ok so like there's a channel for that: #fedora
[17:19] <ikonia> all the guys in #fedora do
[17:20] <mnbr> failed installing ubuntu 12.04  :(
[17:20] <ejv> i hear fc18 is a real blast, best of luck
[17:20] <Zephyr[D]{P}> I'm trying to find the chipset for my wireless card, and the help page I'm looking at says to use "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" to find it
[17:21] <Zephyr[D]{P}> but when I type that, nothing shows up
[17:21] <mnbr> remove grep
[17:21] <ejv> remove the grep, use your eyes
[17:21] <the_rat> Hello, I'm setting up a KVM guest with vmbuilder. It creates the images files, but fails to create the KVM domain. This is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609761/
[17:21] <mnbr> ejv?
[17:22] <ejv> mnbr?
[17:22] <mnbr> how r u hiding ur i p in ?
[17:23] <mnbr> ejv alive?
[17:23] <ejv> mnbr, that's offtopic, but if you must know, I use a unaffiliated domain cloak, provided by freenode.
[17:24] <EvanCarr1ll> Zephyr[D]{P}: lspci -vvnn | grep -i Wireless -A11
[17:25] <Zephyr[D]{P}> ty, I found it already, though
[17:25] <budmang> Hey guys I have 2 nics, both in the same switch(different ips) only one NIC has a gateway... the 2nd nic doesnt seem to fully work.. I can only ping it from the gateway.. no other machines etc..
[17:26] <Fuzzles> how can i edit an iso before putting it on a usb bootable?
[17:27] <theadmin> Fuzzles: Why do you think you need to edit it?
[17:28] <caterina> ciao
[17:28] <caterina> !list
[17:28] <Fuzzles> theadmin, because its a windows 7 disk and i need to delete the ei.cfg file to show all versions so i can install starter on a netbook via usb
[17:28] <theadmin> Fuzzles: ...That's illegal you know.
[17:29] <mnbr> sny2 know how to get claok?
[17:29] <Fuzzles> theadmin, not if i own the laptop with a windows start key, needs a reinstall
[17:29] <mnbr> any1
[17:29] <Dr_willis> !cloak | mnaser
[17:29] <theadmin> mnbr: #freenode
[17:29] <Dr_willis> !leet | mnbr
[17:30] <theadmin> wut.
[17:30] <Fuzzles> theadmin, no other way to get starter as no disc exists
[17:30] <testest> Hi!
[17:30] <theadmin> Fuzzles: Ah, well. Okay, I have no idea if the ISO will remain bootable after such a mess, but you can open it with, say, file-roller and edit it that way.
[17:30] <EvanCarr1ll> Fuzzles: try mounting the iso, modifying it, and then rerunning genisoimage
[17:30] <clefebvre_> Fuzzles: just mount the iso, copy the content
[17:30] <clefebvre_> ^^+1 @ EvanCarr1ll
[17:31] <theadmin> EvanCarr1ll: ISOs can only be mounted read-only due to the filesystem design, can't modify them that way...
[17:31] <Dr_willis> !info kiso
[17:31] <theadmin> Well, unless you do copy the content. But then the boot sector shall be gone
[17:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm. used tobe a tool that let you modify then put changed back.. not seen it in ages
[17:31] <Fuzzles> theadmin, it wont change to read and write so cant delete the file
[17:32] <theadmin> Dr_willis: pretty much any archiver can do that nowadays
[17:32] <SunilJoshi> savio: ok thanks!!
[17:32] <Fuzzles> EvanCarr1ll, sorry?
[17:35] <Fuzzles> theadmin, so how do i change it from readonly to read and write becasue it wont let me?
[17:35] <budmang> http://pastebin.com/SwkDamU4 - help :) on the vpn etc.. I cant seem to get to eth1
[17:35] <santosh> How can I make a debian package for my python script?
[17:36] <mnbr> simply covert script to executable file
[17:36] <testest> :-D
[17:36] <mnbr> santosh bhai
[17:36] <santosh> mnbr: I want a .deb file though..
[17:37] <Dr_willis> You dont have to make it a executable file to make a .deb
[17:37] <testest> .deb file with python?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> but making a proper .deb is a bit of a learning experience
[17:37] <clefebvre_> santosh: the easiest way is to take an existing package and modify it
[17:37] <testest> Yeah?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> a .deb can install python stuff.. yes
[17:37] <mnbr> y need .deb file
[17:37] <Dr_willis> !apt
[17:37] <mnbr> it u can make executable fiel :D
[17:37] <testest> !use-google
[17:38] <testest> :-X
[17:38] <Dr_willis> !u | mnaser
[17:38] <Dr_willis> oops ;) wrong nick. heh
[17:39] <testest> :-)
[17:39] <testest> I am a bot sry for me
[17:39] <ikonia> testest: ask your bot to /part the channel
[17:39] <testest> Cain i help anyone?
[17:40] <testest> :mhm
[17:40] <ikonia> testest: are you running a bot yes/no
[17:40] <ikonia> testest: are you running a bot yes/no
[17:41] <testest> But which bot?
[17:41] <dotblank> Hey guys I'm performing a live migration of my /home to another hardrive
[17:42] <dotblank> I want to delete the old contents
[17:42] <ikonia> testest: I'll ask one more time, are you running a talking bot in this channel, yes/no
[17:42] <dotblank> how can I do that?
[17:42] <ikonia> dotblank: just delete the directory
[17:42] <ikonia> dotblank: (the old one)
[17:42] <dotblank> yea, but... I'm logged in
[17:42] <dotblank> and if I delete /home with x running
[17:42] <dotblank> note Live
[17:42] <testest> ikonia are you a admin?
[17:43] <Nephro> Hi there, I've got a problem. The package manager tripped up due to insufficient disk space, and I can't even uninstall anything because it is locked or smth. It tells me how to unlock it, but there is not enough space to run dpkg fix
[17:43] <ejv> logout, drop to tty0, login as root, purge /home, mount new /home, done
[17:43] <ikonia> dotblank: so either a.) change your home dir to a different location log out/in and delete it, or do it from a live media
[17:43] <ikonia> testest: yes.
[17:43] <dotblank> ejv: I would do that but I'm kinda doing this over the phone
[17:43] <dotblank> :(
[17:43] <dotblank> and over a VNC
[17:43] <testest> No
[17:44] <ejv> good luck
[17:44] <ikonia> testest: thank you
[17:44] <testest> I don`t running bot
[17:44] <testest> I use bot but only for log
[17:44] <xangua> ...
[17:44] <ejv> im actually a turing complete bot, highly creative.
[17:44] <testest> file
[17:45] <testest> :-D
[17:45] <ikonia> testest: as long as it doesn't speak, that's fine
[17:45] <dotblank> Ok, what happens if I boot up with an fstab setting /home but it already has contects on root
[17:45] <testest> :-)
[17:45] <testest> uff
[17:45] <dotblank> mount would complain at run time but is fstab different
[17:45] <testest> wait i googleit
[17:46] <ejv> you can login without /home mounted, it will just complain at you and drop you to /
[17:46] <testest> Ah! ejv I want to said that!
[17:51] <seeqwell> I LOVE IT!!!!
[17:52] <testest> ???
[17:52] <testest> seeqwell: ?
[17:52] <testest> seeqwell: Who/What you love?
[17:52] <seeqwell> linux
[17:53] <testest> I know :-X
[17:53] <testest> I love this toooooo
[17:53] <seeqwell> I just got 12.10 b/c my motherboard was borqued and ram wouldn't load 12.10
[17:55] <testest> Bot2HelpYou: I like linux!
[17:55] <Bot2HelpYou>  i/NN like/IN linux/NN  (-1)
[17:55] <testest> Yeah! Its works!
[17:57] <testest> Hey people any one have Ai bot who use brown corpus? I need algorithm to reply users...
[17:58] <nikrep> ??
[17:58] <xkernel> can anyone please pastebin the default /etc/hosts in Ubuntu 12.10
[17:58] <IdleOne> Bot2HelpYou: test
[17:58] <Bot2HelpYou>  test/NN  (0)
[17:58] <IdleOne> testest: Please use ##test to play with your bot
[18:00] <testest> IdleOne my bot cant speak! He learn english in #ubuntu irc by logs files
[18:00] <ikonia> testest: could you join #ubuntu-ops please.
[18:00] <testest> ... ok
[18:04] <zatan> hey how can I set run cronjob
[18:04] <zatan> 18:30 ?
[18:05] <NastyNaz> I'm looking for a music server that can be controlled from terminal. It was recommended to me but I've forgotten the name.
[18:06] <syntroPi> How would i extract "PE32 executable for MS Windows (DLL) (console) Intel 80386 32-bit" on console? file-roller can do it...
[18:06] <theadmin> syntroPi: Might use cabextract. Not sure if that'll work for all of them, but I suppose.
[18:06] <theadmin> NastyNaz: mpd, by any chance?
[18:07] <syntroPi> theadmin, its PE32 not cabinet. kinda lharc or such
[18:08] <syntroPi> lha complains "LHa: Warning: Checksum error (LHarc file?) "
[18:08] <cloudgeek> i type in my bash
[18:08] <cloudgeek> mail
[18:09] <cloudgeek> it showing me 6 mail failed to deliver
[18:09] <cloudgeek> what i need to do!
[18:09] <cloudgeek> join #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <liquidmetal> does anyone here run aoe on wine?
[18:10] <liquidmetal> AoE II: Conquerers
[18:10] <theadmin> liquidmetal: You'd have to ask in #winehq
[18:10] <liquidmetal> ah!
[18:12] <theadmin> I know this isn't the place, but where could I ask questions about an Ubuntu membership? I know the board holds meetings in #ubuntu-meeting, but I'm not ready to apply yet, just need to ask some, well, questions.
[18:12] <ph1rmw4r3> hey guys, i have an idea, how about we release a version where the flash actually works out of the box.
[18:12] <NastyNaz> theadmin: Thanks! It was mpd
[18:13] <theadmin> ph1rmw4r3: Flash works out of the box in Ubuntu if you marked it in the installer
[18:13] <ph1rmw4r3> ah, well i installed it with the mini.iso
[18:13] <ph1rmw4r3> so now i have to enable some repo right?
[18:14] <theadmin> ph1rmw4r3: I think it's in Universe which is enabled by default... You just need to "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[18:14] <ph1rmw4r3> copypase
[18:14] <subthalamus> ph1rmw4r3: isn't that what mint is for? :P
[18:15] <ph1rmw4r3> eh never really messed that much with  mint, how dose it handle packages, rpm?
[18:15] <theadmin> subthalamus: Please refrain from suggesting unsupported Ubuntu derivatives in this channel, thanks.
[18:16] <subthalamus> theadmin: yessir, wasn't suggesting it, more of a good natured stab at it really
[18:16] <Nephro> Hello. How do I uninstall a program which was compiled and installed from source, rather than apt-get
[18:16] <lopez> http://pastebin.com/6nNGyGhb
[18:16] <lopez> samba problems
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> yeah if your going to sugest anything but ubuntu it has to be slackware
[18:16] <sw> Nephro: does it come with an uninstall script? if not, remove every file manually
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> ok i did the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:16] <seyfarth> anyone have any luck getting Exchange 2010 email working with evolution or thunderbird, and not just using POP3?
[18:16] <ph1rmw4r3> now im good to go yes?
[18:17] <Nephro> sw, not sure... All I know, that the programm installed from source overrides one I install from apt-get, and I don't know how to start the proper one
[18:17] <ph1rmw4r3> i can watch videos on internet yes?
[18:17] <axisys> what ubuntu pkg am I missing? http://bpaste.net/show/ig5t49XSgRXwH0WJA9Xw/
[18:17] <fruitwerks> does anyone know if I can run 12.04 with a 2.6.3 kernel?
[18:17] <sw> Nephro: have a look, then
[18:18] <sw> seyfarth: DavMail?
[18:18] <theadmin> subthalamus: Well, it's no problem. It's just that in the end when people suggest those the channel ends up full of people asking for help with them, which is quite against the rules.
[18:19] <seyfarth> sw: looking into it - thanks!
[18:19] <ioria> Nephro: you can try with 'make unistall'
[18:20] <Cub> is there a way to make a shortcut key for terminal (ubuntu 12.10 | Gnome-shell) ?
[18:20] <subthalamus> theadmin: understood
[18:20] <subthalamus> theadmin: please don't ban me again
[18:20] <Dr_willis> I thought gnome-shell had alt-ctrl-t for terminal same as unity
[18:20] <theadmin> subthalamus: I never banned you, infact I don't have the priveleges to do so
[18:20] <y2j> is there a ios6/apple channel
[18:20] <subthalamus> :P
[18:20] <Dr_willis> !alis | y2j
[18:21] <mnbr> ubuntu 12.04 can be installed inside windows through daemon tools?
[18:21] <Dr_willis> mnbr,  no need for daemon tools.. the wubi installer can read the iso file
[18:21] <Dr_willis> !wubi
[18:21] <mnbr> i have installed 11.10
[18:22] <mnbr> but getting error in 12.04
[18:22] <mnbr> and 12.10
[18:22] <subthalamus> Nephro: specifically which software are we talking about?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet    for you cub
[18:22] <Dr_willis> mnbr,  and the error is?
[18:22] <Cub> okay ty Dr_willis  :)
[18:23] <Dr_willis> I dont use wubi.. i dont reccomend using wubi.. i reccomend running as far away from wubi as you can....
[18:23] <ph1rmw4r3> hey guys thanks my flash is working now, im shure i will be back
[18:26] <subthalamus> phunyguy: what if there are women?
[18:26] <subthalamus> oops ph1rmw4r3 left quick
[18:26] <subthalamus> sorry phunyguy
[18:27] <subthalamus> Dr_willis: I tend to agree, that whole running an OS in a file thing is ugly
[18:28] <phunyguy> o.O
[18:28] <Cub> i assigned terminal f9... as a shortcut, hopefully i won't need this key anytime soon..
[18:28] <Cub> lol
[18:29] <phunyguy> subthalamus, that's what you get for trying to make !ot comments
[18:29] <theadmin> Cub: I suggest using a keycombo instead, such as Ctrl-Alt-T. That's the default by the way, what's wrong with it?
[18:29] <liquidmetal> anyone here who's got internet into wine? Can you join #winehq?
[18:29] <ikonia> internet into wine ?
[18:30] <ikonia> wine is an abstraction layer
[18:30] <Hwkiller> wine works fine with networking afiak
[18:30] <Hwkiller> afaik*
[18:30] <theadmin> ikonia: (anyone here who's got internet) (into wine) :P. As in, he's asking if anyone here knows how to deal with WINE issues.
[18:30] <Cub> too bad there isn't a show desktop icon this
[18:30] <theadmin> ikonia: The mighty confusions of English language.
[18:30] <ikonia> theadmin: thank you
[18:31] <histo> Cub: alt+tab
[18:31] <Hwkiller> the mighty confusions of poor grammar
[18:31] <Cub> alt tab just shows the programs
[18:31] <Cub> doesnt minimize all and show the desktop
[18:31] <histo> Cub: ctrl+super+d
[18:32] <histo> Cub: There is a show desktop item when using alt tab here.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Cub,  gnome-shell has numerous extensions to change things
[18:34] <Dr_willis> not sure why you really need a show desktop item these days ;)
[18:35] <Cub> because i like to see the hot girls wallpaper on my desktop from time to time :P
[18:36] <Cub> i'll try the extentions later on
[18:36] <Cub> extensions*
[18:38] <MEGASHAREUPLOAD> §@v@§
[18:38] <Ramtron> Hey! I'm trying to install this program, Unetbootin/494 on Linux, I marked it as executable but it still won't install
[18:38] <tqrst> can anyone recommend an alternative to rxvt-unicode that is as fast and supports xft fonts? I don't care about tabs or transparency. (the reason behind my asking this is that urxvt apparently uses non standard key codes for the F keys, which messes with my vim bindings amongst other things)
[18:39] <shadoqflww> is there a way to reset my openssh server config files to default in the /etc/ssh ?
[18:39] <theadmin> Ramtron: Unetbootin is in the repositories, you can just use the Software Centre or "sudo apt-get install unetbootin". Or click this: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/unetbootin
[18:40] <Ramtron> Yeah but that's a new version
[18:40] <Ramtron> I need v494
[18:40] <theadmin> Ramtron: Oh, why is that?
[18:40] <Ramtron> to supposrt NFTS files
[18:40] <Ramtron> I'm trying to make a bootable flash drive for windows 7
[18:40] <Ramtron> Unless you have a better way
[18:40] <theadmin> Ramtron: There's a better way for that. Please see http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[18:41] <Ramtron> Thanks I'll read that and come back
[18:41] <shadoqflww> i would just use wine and the universal usb installer
[18:42] <shadoqflww> it works for me perty well
[18:42] <Ramtron> eh i want the easiest way possible
[18:42] <Dr_willis> i belive you can dd the windows iso for newer versions to usb and they will boot
[18:42] <Ramtron> I'll never use ubuntu again
[18:42] <Dr_willis> go ask in #windows for the reccomend tools perhaps
[18:42] <Ramtron> dd? the only thing is I need an NFTS file
[18:42] <Ramtron> winUSB will work I'm sure
[18:42] <invariant> How can I get all the ATTRS displayed for a given device file?
[18:42] <Dr_willis> No idea what you mean by a nfts file.
[18:42] <Ramtron> I'm sorry NFTS format
[18:42] <Ramtron> not file
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[18:43] <tqrst> Ramtron: do you mean NTFS? And even then, what?
[18:43] <shadoqflww> is there a way to reset my openssh server config files to default in the /etc/ssh
[18:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:43] <Ramtron> Who knows what I mean hahah
[18:43] <Ramtron> to boot windows 7 from flash drive
[18:43] <Dr_willis> shadoqflww,  purge/reinstall the config files.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> you still have to put the ISO  on the usb
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, asking for Windows goals in a Linux channel is a bad idea.
[18:44] <Ramtron> Lol
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, mostly because lots of people don't even use Windows anymore.
[18:44] <Ramtron> I dunno how you guys can handle using ubuntu
[18:44] <Dr_willis> if you mean you need for format the USB to be NTFS - thats not to hard to do
[18:44] <Ramtron> I find myself having so many problems
[18:44] <guideX> using the built in rdp in ubuntu 12.10, I keep getting this message from rdp client "Your computer could not connect to another console session on the remote computer because you already have a console session in progress"
[18:44] <invariant> Ramtron, Linux users want to use a real computer.
[18:44] <Ramtron> Yeah I formatted it already but the program doesn't read NTFS
[18:45] <invariant> Ramtron, you just want a consumer OS.
[18:45] <Ramtron> Meh, I want Arch linux actually
[18:45] <Dr_willis> im suprised unetbootin even works to make a windows thing
[18:45] <_methods> hahahahah
[18:45] <invariant> Ramtron, that's mostly the difference.
[18:45] <Ramtron> ubuntu 12.04 sucks
[18:45] <Ramtron> Dr_willis that's the problem, it doesn't work
[18:45] <_methods> if ubuntu seems difficult to you arch will be ..............
[18:45] <Ramtron> duh, ubuntu isn't difficult
[18:45] <Ramtron> it's shitty
[18:46] <Ramtron> I should've created a SWAP partition as well
[18:46] <xangua> !language | Ramtron
[18:46] <Ramtron> my own fault but it's still obnoxious
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, it has many problems indeed.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> as i said,.. you can use dd to put the iso file on the USB i belive.. and it will be a bootable  windows installer.. but you may want to double check in #windows
[18:46] <guideX> in what way ramtron?
[18:46] <l057c0d3r> Ramtron, there is nothing wrong with ubuntu its great...  its just the desktop environment that isnt the greatest
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, you can create swap files.
[18:46] <Ramtron> I like cinnamon
[18:46] <l057c0d3r> the kernel and apt are great
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, you don't need swap partitions.
[18:46] <invariant> Ramtron, but you already know everything, right?!!
[18:46] <cloudgeek> how i can
[18:46] <Ramtron> eh not really, just some things
[18:46] <cloudgeek> mail in ubuntu
[18:47] <Ramtron> i mostly hate ubuntu cause skype sucks on it
[18:47] <cloudgeek> mail command line
[18:47] <invariant> Ramtron, please consider that you know absolutely nothing about computing before saying anything else.
[18:47] <guideX> skype sucks everywhere :)
[18:47] <Ramtron> i'm tryna get ladies naked and can't do that via ubuntu :(
[18:47] <Ramtron> windows it's good
[18:47] <guideX> skype is far worse on my windows phone
[18:47] <Ramtron> i can imagine
[18:47] <l057c0d3r> skype works great for me
[18:47] <guideX> I have to be in it to recieve a message D:
[18:47] <guideX> on windows phone
[18:47] <phunyguy> this is so !ot...
[18:47] <phunyguy> !ot
[18:47] <guideX> making it TOTALLY worthless
[18:47] <invariant> Ramtron, please do not reproduce.
[18:47] <Ramtron> Well I'ma try booting this flash drive
[18:47] <tqrst> what is this, youtube comments section?
[18:48] <Ramtron> thanks guys
[18:48] <Ramtron> i'm gonna reproduce 37 times just for you
[18:48] <Justpassing> hello people
[18:48] <phunyguy> GUYS.  Please.  Stay on topic.
[18:48] <Justpassing> i just started to use ubuntu 12.10
[18:48] <Ramtron> Quit while you're ahead
[18:48] <l057c0d3r> ok so i know how to move around files and copy files ext ext...
[18:48] <Arrick> hey all...
[18:48] <Ramtron> ubuntu 12.10 is retarded
[18:48] <Justpassing> and i have a problem with 12.10
[18:48] <Justpassing> wine
[18:48] <phunyguy> Ramtron, I won't ask again.
[18:49] <Ramtron> chill out
[18:49] <Dr_willis> people who say things are retarted.. are.. well... not worth responding to.
[18:49] <Ramtron> it's a topic
[18:49] <guideX> Ramtron, I wouldn't say it's retarded. Once you force yourself to use it, you start to like it
[18:49] <subthalamus> so much wine talk
[18:49] <Ramtron> i've forced myself
[18:49] <guideX> at least that's how it happened with me
[18:49] <xangua> !ot | Ramtron guideX
[18:49] <Ramtron> i had to use it for 7 months
[18:49] <Ramtron> idk why you typed that
[18:49] <Ramtron> lol
[18:49] <Justpassing> I want to install apps and use ubuntu like a real os.
[18:49] <guideX> I was helping him with his experience with ubuntu, and describing mine
[18:49] <Arrick> I am wondering... its been a long time since I've played with anything ubuntu related... currently I have the OS installed on a raid0 configuration, and I have a raid 5 config for data... but I cant for the life of me remember how to setup the volume on the raid 5 with a console session.
[18:49] <shadoqflww> thank you so mutch Dr_willis
[18:49] <guideX> nothing off topic about that
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> but i was wondering.. in terminal.. i have a folder in my home directory with tons of sub directories and folder.. i want to move the whole directory and everything in it to my /host/storage directory how would i do this
[18:49] <Ramtron> nothin'
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  Wine is not guarenteed to work.. what are you trying to use wine with?
[18:50] <invariant> invariant, thanks for your help!
[18:50] <invariant> invariant, I need to help myself all the time. np!
[18:50] <_methods> !mdadm
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> maybe mv -r ~/files/* /host/storage/*
[18:50] <Gunrun>  /j #ubuntu-steam
[18:50] <Justpassing> i use ubuntu software center for download
[18:50] <Gunrun> argh
[18:50] <Justpassing> and it says me the package ....
[18:50] <Justpassing> i try it on the terminal too.
[18:51] <invariant> !enter
[18:51] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  you really should telling us some details.. so far you havent said much of anything other then you are trying to use wine.. and having some sort of issue....
[18:51] <_methods> Arrick: did you set up your array with mdadm?
[18:52] <Arrick> _methods, nope, I setup the array with the raid controller.
[18:52] <_methods> oh
[18:52] <Arrick> it sees the two volumes.
[18:52] <Arrick> I just cant remember how to see the second volume to format it, etc.
[18:52] <Myrtti> phunyguy: in general it helps a lot if you tell who you think is the troublemaker...
[18:52] <Justpassing> Dr.willis i am sorry i forget the main issue.I want to install wine
[18:52] <invariant> I don't know, but if people still say that Linux isn't popular with such low content questions, then I fear the worst for humanity.
[18:53] <phunyguy> Myrtti, sorry, Ramtron was trollin'
[18:53] <guideX> oic
[18:53] <Ramtron> Not really..
[18:53] <Justpassing> and it gives me a package problem.When i tried to use commands "upgrade" and "update" it gives me this reports:Paket listeleri okunuyor... Bitti Bağımlılık ağacı inşa ediliyor.        Durum bilgisi okunuyor... Bitti        Yükseltilen: 0, Yeni Kurulan: 0, Kaldırılacak: 0 ve Yükseltilmeyecek: 0. N: Ignoring file 'private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_motorbike_ubuntu.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/source
[18:53] <Ramtron> I was simply explaining the situations
[18:53] <Dr_willis> yes really.. time to move on
[18:53] <phunyguy> I'll let you explain.
[18:53] <guideX> my appologies for not catching on, I will now stop being ot :>
[18:53] <Ramtron> I'm too lazy to explain
[18:53] <phunyguy> and there you have it.
[18:54] <histo> Justpassing: Looks like that ppa is down
[18:54] <Justpassing> It's the first time i use ubuntu dude...In Turkey,they think using windows is like a using apollo
[18:54] <dotblank> wow
[18:54] <dotblank> running out of disk space on linux is bad news
[18:54] <histo> Justpassing: Did you add a ppa for some reason?
[18:54] <Justpassing> what can i do for fix histo
[18:54] <histo> dotblank: yeap
[18:55] <dotblank> everything just combusts into fire
[18:55] <Justpassing> yes,i add the wine ppa but after i delete it
[18:55] <dotblank> I had to aufs a ramfs on top
[18:55] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[18:55] <allan_> Hello everyone! I had a question, has anyone used the program Cmus? I am having some issues getting the sound to work. I compiled the most recent version and got it loaded, but I'm getting errors about the plugins don't exist.
[18:55] <dotblank> so I could uninstall packages
[18:55] <dotblank> then I had to snap merge
[18:55] <histo> !ppa-purge | Justpassing
[18:56] <histo> Justpassing: After you remove the ppa just sudo apt-get install wine
[18:56] <phunyguy> Myrtti, Ramtron, the issue was the last 20 lines or so of off-topic chat, with complete disregard for the !ot hints, and calling ubuntu retarded... talking about naked ladies, etc.
[18:56] <jilebedev> Hello - can anyone point me to a howto or article on hotswapping SATA hard drives on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:56] <Ramtron> Mind dropping it?
[18:56] <phunyguy> for the record.
[18:56] <Ramtron> No use in continuing that subject.
[18:56] <Myrtti> phunyguy: you could have told all that where you did your first report. But moving on.
[18:57] <Justpassing> allright, i will check the page and after if the problem solves i will came to thanks people,thanks for the ubuntu philosophy :)
[18:57] <phunyguy> Myrtti, I apologie, just wanted to drop a quick hint.
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: If you run the command by doing LANG=C <command> the error message will be in English and us stupid Americans will understand it.
[18:58] <keops> Hi I'm looking for a tool that can replace Xtremsplit (cause it doesn't actually work on ubuntu). I prefer command line but gui is also nice ;-)
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> keops  what is extremesplit?
[18:58] <Dr_willis> assume no one in here knows what Xtremsplit does.... ;)
[18:58] <phunyguy> keops, what does it do?
[18:58] <histo> jilebedev: hot swapping is not os dependant
 in the first sentences there wasn't a error and i dont want to translate it to the english
[18:59] <Justpassing> problem?
[18:59] <keops> MonkeyDust, phunyguy : it cuts big files into little ones.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: Not much to it.  Unmount before removing, mount when needed.
[19:00] <phunyguy> !info splitdiff | keops
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> keops  i guess linux has base64 or so
[19:00] <phunyguy> hrmmm
[19:00] <jilebedev> histo: jhutchins_wk much obliged for your comments. The trouble is - I've inserted a new SATA HDD, and fdisk -l doesn't list it. I'm not sure how to proceed, so I'm looking for a writeup
[19:00] <phunyguy> man splitdiff, see if it is what you need, keops
[19:00] <histo> keops: there are many ways you could accomplish this.
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: Look in dmesg.
[19:00] <guideX> for some reason, I can't connect to rdp to my ubuntu 12.10. I've setup the remote desktop, but clicking the ? and clicking setup, and adding my "remote desktop", but in the end I cannot connect, can someone help me?
[19:00] <TheDracle> How do I disable automount of USB devices in Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: I seem to recall that it helps if there is a drive on that port when the system boots so that the BIOS activates it.  After that you can swap all you want.
[19:01] <jilebedev> jhutchins_wk: dmesg is filled with all kinds of spam - the new drive isn't mounted, partitioned, or formatted: you think it's safe to just unplug it, start following syslog, and then physically plug it in?
[19:01] <histo> keops: the split command is one way
[19:01] <keops> histo: natively with bash ?
[19:01] <Justpassing> Oh, it gives me the same error again.Is there a command i can launch on the terminal to take a result?
[19:01] <xangua> TheDracle: only usb or any device conected¿
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: That kind of info isn't likely to show up in the syslog.
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  sudo apt-get install packagename
[19:02] <histo> keops: Don't know what you mean be natively. But you may want to look into the split command. It's default in uubntu
[19:02] <jilebedev> jhutchins_wk: Can I "tail -F" the output of dmesg? Is there a logfile I can follow?
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> jilebedev: That "spam" in dmesg can be very useful if you're troubleshooting things at the OS leve.
[19:02] <keops> histo: I mean without installing something. It'd come with buntu
[19:03] <Justpassing> N: Ignoring file 'private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_motorbike_ubuntu.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'ubuntu-wine-ppa-quantal.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'tehnick-tehnick-quantal.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename 
[19:03] <histo> TheDracle: http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/07/quick-tips-easy-way-to-disable-auto-mount-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts.html
[19:03] <histo> keops: yeah split is built in
[19:03] <beatmasher> helo....can someone please help me with wireless drivers for compaq nx6125?
[19:03] <beatmasher> i am using ubuntu 10.10
[19:03] <histo> !wifi | beatmasher
[19:03] <sunsetlover> guys, how can i update the packages in ubuntu
[19:04] <histo> beatmasher: do you know what chipset it is?
[19:04] <auronandace> !10.10 | beatmasher
[19:04] <histo> sunsetlover: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:04] <Dr_willis> sunsetlover,  sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: watch "dmesg |tail -15"
[19:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:04] <keops> but which one is preferable ? split or splitdiff ?
[19:05] <histo> Justpassing: go to your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> Justpassing: So clean up your sources.
[19:05] <histo> Justpassing: and remove the oones you added.  Then sudo apt-get update
[19:05] <histo> keops: I'm not familiar with splitdiff
[19:05] <Justpassing> histo when i try to clean them,it wont gives me authorization
[19:06] <Dr_willis> !sudo | Justpassing
[19:06] <keops> Ok fine. Tanks all.
[19:07] <histo> !bcm | beatmasher
[19:08] <histo> !bcm > beatmasher
[19:08] <Justpassing> people i just want to delete the broken files in the sources.list.d how can i do it?
[19:08] <Ramtron> By pressing ESC we can choose which partition to install an OS on, yeah?
[19:08] <Ramtron> on startup
[19:09] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  you remove or comment out the offending lines..  you must use sudo/root rights to alter the file
[19:09] <phunyguy> Ramtron, press escape at which point?
[19:09] <Ramtron> Right at the beginning, pressing esc chooses boot devices
[19:09] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  or find an original copy of the sources.list file from some site and use it.
[19:09] <Ramtron> for my Asus anyway
[19:09] <l057c0d3r> heh never mind i figured it out on my own.
[19:09] <phunyguy> Ramtron, that is correct for selecting which device to boot from, not install on.
[19:10] <Ramtron> hmmm, if I choose a blank partition for boot device, would it install on it?
[19:10] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  also there can be ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that can cause issues.. you can just move those files to some Backup dir to disable the ppas
[19:10] <cloudgeek> i am sending mail using a mail command but it is undeliverd
[19:10] <phunyguy> no, Ramtron
[19:10] <cloudgeek> can anybody help me
[19:10] <Ramtron> Greeeaaat
[19:10] <phunyguy> Ramtron, it will try to boot from said blank partition, which wont work.
[19:11] <phunyguy> where do you have your ubuntu live environment, Ramtron?
[19:11] <phunyguy> CD or USB?
[19:11] <Ramtron> At the end of the partition on my HDD
[19:11] <Justpassing> @Dr_willis my friend i am really noob at this os.can you give me a command i can use on terminal?
[19:11] <Ramtron> Oh, uhh I dunno what you mean
[19:11] <Justpassing> to delete those files
[19:11]  * phunyguy is confused
[19:11] <histo> Justpassing: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[19:11] <Ramtron> Me too
[19:11] <phunyguy> Ramtron, are you currently in the middle of an install, or are you trying to start the install?
[19:11] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  not really...  if this is confuseing to you.. i have to wonder How you added them in the first place..
[19:11] <l057c0d3r> Justpassing, rm (filename)
[19:12] <Ramtron> Right now I'm in the process of making the bootable flash drive
[19:12] <Dr_willis> Justpassing,  it would be worth the time to spend an hr reading up on a few bash tutorials..
[19:12] <Ramtron> with windows 7 on it
[19:12] <histo> Dr_willis: copy and pasting from links most likely
[19:12] <Ramtron> nearly done
[19:12] <histo> Justpassing: after you use my command sudo apt-get update
[19:12] <phunyguy> Ramtron, so you are asking for help creating a windows 7 flash drive?
[19:12] <Ramtron> No
[19:12] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[19:12] <Ramtron> Asking help on booting it I guess haha
[19:12] <phunyguy> what does this have to do with ubuntu, Ramtron?
[19:12] <histo> Ramtron: Are you install windows after ubuntu?
[19:13] <Ramtron> yes
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,  yep.  and im not going to  spend hrs again  trying to explain concepts like working directory   again. ;)
[19:13] <Ramtron> I already have ubuntu on my other partition
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,  did enough of that last week.
[19:13] <histo> !dualboot | Ramtron
[19:13] <histo> Dr_willis: lol
[19:13] <Ramtron> Shall give it a read, thanks.
[19:13] <Dr_willis> histo,   You know exactly what im talking about ;)
[19:14] <Ramtron> Would it be easiest to install windows on the entire hdd then install ubuntu afterwards on a different partition?
[19:14] <kovu> i need help to install the latest version of java please
[19:14] <Dr_willis> took 10 min the other day for the idea of a 'space' beteen a command and a --option to get through to some people..
[19:14] <Dr_willis> !java |  kovu
[19:15] <kovu> i need help to install jre on a ubuntu 12.10
[19:15] <histo> Ramtron: yes but it can be done either way
[19:15] <Justpassing> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:15] <Justpassing> isudo: rm/etc/apt/sources.list.d: command not found
[19:16] <phunyguy> Ramtron, Ubuntu may handle the dual-boot portion better
[19:16] <kovu> i have downloaded the packege but i do not know the command to installl it on my system
[19:16] <Ramtron> Thought so as well
[19:16] <histo> Ramtron: If you install windows first then ubuntu second. When ubuntu installs grub it will just work without any configuration on your part.  When you install windows second you blew out your grub files from linux. So now you'd have ot reinstall grub etc...
[19:16] <Justpassing> oh
[19:16] <Justpassing> huh
[19:16] <Justpassing> i did it
[19:16] <histo> Ramtron: Windows doesn't give you the option to leave the mbr alone.
[19:16] <Justpassing> :D
[19:16] <Justpassing> finally
[19:16] <FloodBot1> Justpassing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <Ramtron> Idk, I'll give this a shot, but I'm sure it won't work. I'll just reformat my hdd again
[19:17] <xkernel> what is Rendezvous?
[19:17] <Justpassing> pardons
[19:17] <histo> !manual | Justpassing
[19:17] <Ramtron> thanks guys
[19:17] <phunyguy> Ramtron, have fun.
[19:17] <Ramtron> Oh I will ;)
[19:17] <Fuzzles> How can i edit a iso in ubuntu ?
[19:17] <alexb_> if i am dual booting ubuntu and windows will ubuntu run faster if i just have it installed?
[19:17] <Arrick> how do i set permission for the apache2 user to be able to access a directory outside of the /var/www directory? (and tell what user apache2 is using?)
[19:17] <xkernel> ubottu, rendezvous
[19:17] <histo> Fuzzles: you can mount it extract the files and create a new iso
[19:18] <Fuzzles> histo, how?
[19:18] <histo> Fuzzles: double click the iso
[19:18] <xkernel> !ubottu | rendezvous
[19:18] <Fuzzles> histo, ye
[19:18] <kicklighter> hello people how do i rezise my virtual windows xp in ubuntu any help please...
[19:19] <Physicist> Greetings! Later I have upgraded the kernel of Ubuntu 12.10, my 3G modem is not recognized by my the assistent. Any device?
[19:19] <phunyguy> Fuzzles, see #2 in this link for making the new ISO
[19:19] <phunyguy> http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html
[19:19] <kovu> i need help to install the latest version of java for my ubuntu 12.10 i have the download i just need the commmands to make it work
[19:20] <Physicist> Greetings! Later I have upgraded the kernel of Ubuntu 12.10, my 3G modem is not recognized by the assistent. Any device?
[19:20] <phunyguy> !java | kovu
[19:20] <Fuzzles> phunyguy, thanks ill take a look
[19:21] <tqrst> when using git-svn, I get "Can't locate SVN/Core.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/perl/5.14.2 /home/foobar/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 41."  but libsvn-perl is installed. What gives?
[19:21] <histo> Physicist: have you tried booting the older kernel?
[19:21] <Arrick> ! which user
[19:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !git
[19:21] <tqrst> it seems like libsvn-perl put everything in perl/5.10.1 instead of 5.14.2 even though $(perl --version) is 5.14.2. Wha?
[19:22] <ejv> tqrst: try #perl
[19:22] <ioria> kovu: what are you trying to do  ?
[19:22] <tqrst> ejv: this seems to be due to ubuntu packaging, not perl
[19:22] <TomyLobo> ejv sounds like he's talking about a ubuntu package
[19:22] <Physicist> histo, how can I do that! Note: The upgrade was a suggest of the system.
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tqrst: I would suggest using Ubuntu Tweak at least, to get rid of the old Perl library, if that doesn't work, head for #perl.
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !perl
[19:23] <alexb_> !java
[19:23] <histo> Physicist: press the shift key when booting to get a grub menu.  You can then select older kernels under advanced options.
[19:23] <Justpassing> what is the ppa purge
[19:23] <guideX> is there a firewall built into 12.10 I can disable?
[19:23] <histo> !firewall | guideX
[19:23] <theadmin> guideX: It's disabled by default.
[19:23] <guideX> ah ok
[19:23] <alexb_> yes what us the ppa purge
[19:24] <ejv> tqrst: apt-get install git-core git-svn ?
[19:24] <tqrst> ejv: already installed
[19:24] <guideX> i'm unable to remote desktop to my machine, i've done the whole "remote desktops" on the site
[19:24] <histo> guideX: remote desktop is a windows protocol
[19:24] <guideX> ah ok
[19:24] <guideX> so vnc will work maybe
[19:24] <histo> guideX: yes
[19:24] <guideX> i'll go that route
[19:25] <SonikkuAmerica> guideX: Either that or SSH
[19:25] <kovu> ioria i was trying to install jre 7 on my ubuntu 12.10 but i am doing it now that ks you
[19:25] <Physicist> histo, Ok I will try it, but, the actuallization is important, right?
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> histo: There's an rdp server for Linux (at least one).
[19:26] <theadmin> guideX: There's also TeamViewer if anything, which is the simpliest solution in existence.
[19:26] <ejv> so... it appears your perl binds are installed in a different place than git-core/git-svn expects, can you just setup a symlink?
[19:26] <guideX> hmm vnc isn't working either
[19:26] <histo> Physicist: you need to catch it just after the bios loads.
[19:26] <guideX> oh ok
[19:26] <guideX> oh wait it is asking me a password :D
[19:26] <histo> guideX: What howto or website are you looking at?
[19:27] <trueneu_> Hi. Could someone help me out? I'm trying to redirect all incoming connections with iptables with `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.102:80`, 192.168.1.102 is my eth0 ip. Default policy is ACCEPT, ip forwarding enabled. Nothing works.
[19:27] <histo> guideX: and how did you enable
[19:27] <Physicist> histo, Thank you!
[19:27] <histo> guideX: "remote desktop"
[19:27] <guideX> oh I followed tutorials on the web
[19:27] <guideX> but I was trying rdp after
[19:27] <guideX> ok vnc connected, but I have a black screen
[19:28] <ejv> tqrst: so... it appears your perl binds are installed in a different place than git-core/git-svn expects, can you just setup a symlink?
[19:28] <histo> guideX: You realize, there is desktop sharing built in via vino
[19:28] <histo> !vino | guideX
[19:28] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:28] <tqrst> ejv: I tried that, but the perl svn bindings were compiled against that older version. If I try to load them with 5.14, it fails with missing symbols.
[19:28] <tqrst> ejv: trying to recompile it by hand now instead
[19:29] <histo> guideX: if you look at desktop sharing in the dash
[19:29] <twobitsprite> hey. I'm running 12.04 with unity on a lenovo laptop with an nvidia video card. I have second monitor plugged in to the laptop. For some reason, window placement doesn't do the same kind of "smart" things on the second monitor as it does on the first. If I open multiple terminal windows on the second monitor, they all just get piled on top of each other in the upper left
[19:29] <tqrst> urgh, build-dep libsvn-perl wants to pull in every package in the universe
[19:29] <histo> twobitsprite: sounds like a bug to me.
[19:29] <guideX> oh I see
[19:30] <guideX> I got in with vnc, there was a prompt on the screen
[19:30] <twobitsprite> histo: I've searched all over and can't find anything, and I can't be the first person to notice it...
[19:30] <guideX> from the vm session
[19:30] <tqrst> and half of kde for some reason
[19:30] <guideX> it was saying "allow user to login" etc
[19:30] <ejv> !bug
[19:30] <guideX> cool
[19:30] <guideX> now I can vnc into it :D
[19:30] <guideX> now to figure out how to disable that prompt on the console
[19:30] <Justpassing> how can i fix the broken packages?  i install the ubuntu with windows with launching a program.i guess i dont need to delete.
[19:31] <twobitsprite> I know how a file bugs, thanks, I just didn't know if anyone here has seen it before or might have some suggestions about how to work around it or fix it
[19:31] <guideX> hmm except.. I can only see
[19:31] <guideX> I can't actually control the screen
[19:31] <guideX> in vnc
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: [ sudo apt-get install f ] ?
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Or rather [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[19:31] <ph1rmw4r3> hello all, i want this script i wrote to run at startup, it is located at    ~/startup.sh
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !bash | ph1rm4r3
[19:31] <guideX> I think it might be frozen hmm
[19:32] <guideX> ah ok I see, it was just frozen
[19:32] <guideX> i thin kit works :)
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> ph1rm4r3: Or rather, try /join #bash
[19:32] <Justpassing> it says "the package "f" don't place
[19:32] <ph1rmw4r3> no i dont want to use the teminal i wat it to auto run, shoul i use rc local
[19:32] <tuxcrafter> hi all, im running a ubuntu 12.04 with 3.5.0 kernel on a hp probook 4520s WD842EA and cant get my touchpad (clickpad) working properly
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: I typed it wrong, it's [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[19:32] <ph1rmw4r3> or ~/.rclocal
[19:32] <tqrst> SonikkuAmerica: how would #bash help him out with automatically running a script at *startup*?
[19:32] <tuxcrafter> does somebody have experience with HP touchpads and 3.5.0 kernel
[19:33] <ph1rmw4r3> well startup, i mean login, my bad
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ph1rmw4r3, tqrst: I stand corrected.
[19:33] <guideX> thanks again for the help
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> guideX: There are several different ways to use vnc.  You can share the current desktop, with and without prompting the current user, you can allow a remote user to controll the desktop or only observe, and you can restrict the remote users to their own login session, seperate from the current local user.
[19:33] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: startup as in on boot, or every time you log in?
[19:33] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:33] <ph1rmw4r3> login tqrst
[19:33] <xangua> tuxcrafter: and with the kernel provided by ubuntu official repositories¿
[19:34] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: what shell do you use? (echo $SHELL)
[19:34] <ph1rmw4r3> bash
[19:34] <ph1rmw4r3> /bin/bash
[19:34] <guideX> i'm more used to rdp, this is why i'm so confused heh
[19:34] <Justpassing> it says to me type autoremove and when i type it it says E: /var/lib/dpkg/lock is locked
[19:34] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: then you could add it to ~/.bashrc
[19:34] <guideX> so there's no rdp without xrdp then?
[19:35] <guideX> but xrdp doesn't work with unity right
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Is something else installing?
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Or being removed?
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so all my script to ~/.bashrc
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so add*
[19:35] <tuxcrafter> xangua: same i hoped the 3.5.0 kernel from the official repos fixed it since i met someone at fosdem yesterday with ah zenbook that needed 3.5.0 to fix it
[19:35] <Justpassing> No,ubuntu soft. is closed
[19:35] <ph1rmw4r3> so i just add it to the top
[19:36] <ph1rmw4r3> something like   /home/user/startup.sh
[19:36] <Zentaur> hello
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> ph1rmw4r3: Probably better to add it at the end.
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: Weird.
[19:36] <Zentaur> i'm trying to install 12.04 on my computer with hardware raid 1
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Justpassing: You may need to restart.
[19:36] <ph1rmw4r3> ok ill put it on the end
[19:36] <xangua> tuxcrafter: are you sure you just not disabled the touchpad with the function key¿
[19:37] <Justpassing> is the restart will fix it?
[19:37] <Zentaur> it crashes, there is something wrong with ubi-usersetup or something like that
[19:37] <tuxcrafter> xangua: it is the right mouse button that doesnt work and you cant use your left hand on the left button of the touchpad and use your right hand to move the cursor
[19:37] <Physicist> There in North America, you guys have 4G Internet?
[19:37] <Zentaur> i read that i can install trying ubuntu and intalling from there.
[19:37] <Zentaur> but i need to update the installer
[19:37] <skp1> my douche.
[19:38] <Zentaur> could anybody tell me how?
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: We have it in most major cities.
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: In fact, 4G LTE
[19:39] <Physicist> sonikkuAmerica, Here have only 3G, and is horrible!!
[19:39] <Physicist> sonikkuAmerica, Here.. Brazil.
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Physicist  did you have a support question?
[19:40] <Physicist> MonkeyDust, was resolved!
[19:40] <histo> Physicist: did the old kernel work?
[19:41] <drmagoo> Zentaur> By hardware raid, have you bought a seperate raid-card or is it an internal one on your motherboard ?
[19:41] <Physicist> histo, yes! But, I am using Backtrack that is in dual now. Thank you!
[19:42] <histo> Physicist: Okay well maybe you should file a bug.  So it can be tracked down as to why your hardware isn't working in the latest kernel.
[19:42] <histo> !bug | Physicist
[19:43] <ph1rmw4r3> okay, so i added my script to the bottom of ~/.bashrc   and now theres a lot of weird shtuff going on now...   :/
[19:43] <ikonia> sounds like you have no idea what you are doing
[19:43] <Zentaur> it is internal
[19:43] <ph1rmw4r3> well it works kina
[19:44] <Zentaur> i installed it before with the same cd and there was no problem
[19:44] <ph1rmw4r3> but its when i ctrl alt T   it runs my script
[19:44] <Zentaur> but this time i checked to crypt my home
[19:44] <guideX> any idea why when I do vbox (headless mode) why vnc won't connect? It only connects when the vm window is shown
[19:44] <ph1rmw4r3> i want it to just run when i login, not every time i use the terminal..
[19:44] <ikonia> guideX: needs an x server to connect to ?
[19:44] <guideX> hmm ok
[19:44] <compdoc> guideX, which vnc?
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  use a stand alone vncserver such as tightvnc, or vnc4server. not x11vnc, or vino
[19:45] <Physicist> histo, first I have to install the latest ATI driver, than I will see about it.
[19:45] <guideX> i'm using tightvnc
[19:45] <guideX> as the client
[19:45] <Zentaur> is there a way to install from the try ubuntu only with free software option?
[19:45] <guideX> as far as ubuntu 12.10, whatever is built in
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  as the SERVER.. what vnc server?
[19:45] <Physicist> histo, Thanks again!
[19:45] <Dr_willis> guideX,  there ya go.. thats vino.. use tightvnc for the server.
[19:45] <guideX> ah ok
[19:45] <ph1rmw4r3> ubuntu makes me rage
[19:45] <drmagoo> Zentaur, do you know the make and model of your motherboard ?
[19:46] <koala_> join/ #squat
[19:46] <Dr_willis> computers that do what you tell them to do! egads. ;)
[19:47] <Nickvcqezname> hi how to use ffmpegtjhumbnailer with thunar plz?
[19:48] <Dr_willis> http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegthumbnailer/wiki/Faq
[19:49] <ph1rmw4r3> the pepole at #bash told me to get lost and to go here
[19:49] <Nickvcqezname> ty for link willy however I have Xubuntu 12.04, no thunar-thumbnailer package
[19:49] <Dr_willis> !info ffmpegthumbnailer
[19:49] <tqrst> ph1rmw4r3: try putting it in bash_profile instead of bashrc - bash_profile only runs for login shells, whereas bashrc is run for interactive shells too
[19:49] <ikonia> ph1rmw4r3: no they didn't
[19:49] <ph1rmw4r3> lol okay thanks ill try
[19:49] <Dr_willis> ph1rmw4r3,  they most likely expect you to read some bash docs also...
[19:50] <pseudonymous> Pro tip: never use bash for anything but invoking a few commands - Learn python or ruby instead :D
[19:50] <Dr_willis> i use rexx ;)
[19:51] <ph1rmw4r3> they did, you can go look lol
[19:51] <miebster_atwork> my windows manager (KDE) just went bonkers and crashed, how can I restart it without logging out?
[19:52] <Dr_willis> miebster_atwork,  see if you can run 'kwin' perhaps?
[19:52] <theadmin> miebster_atwork: Window manager as in the real window manager, i.e. KWin, the thing drawing window borders, or the entire environment?
[19:53] <miebster_atwork> theadmin: both, running kwin brought back some functionality, I can now switch desktops, but no kmenu or window decarators
[19:53] <traubisoda> hi
[19:53] <miebster_atwork> theadmin: nevermind the decarators are fine, I just dont have the desktop and kmenu bar
[19:54] <theadmin> miebster_atwork: Ah... Huh, that's odd... I'm not all too sure what provides those, unfortunately, it's something that starts with "plasma", but can't remember the exact name.
[19:54] <jrib> !startup | ph1rmw4r3
[19:54] <traubisoda> i'm on 12.10 gnome3 fallback over xrdp. there's no reboot or shutdown option on the GUI, and if i reboot or halt from terminal, it stucks without any error messages during the process. what should i do to fix this?
[19:56] <beatmasher> helo ... i am trying: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ...or... sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source .......as it says on:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access .....but it says in terminal: Reading package lists... Done
[19:56] <beatmasher> Building dependency tree
[19:56] <beatmasher> Reading state information... Done
[19:56] <beatmasher> E: Unable to locate package bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:56] <theadmin> traubisoda: GNOME 3 does not provide reboot/shutdown options in the GUI, that is correct. You have to log out and shutdown from GDM. As for terminal shutdown, you sure it gets stuck? I mean, if it did shut down, the connection would be lost, so your RDP client will hang.
[19:56] <Dr_willis>  beatmasher  done a sudo apt-get update    recently?
[19:56] <beatmasher> yes
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:57] <miebster_atwork> I just wan't a stable linux distro :( fml right?
[19:57] <Dr_willis> beatmasher,  what ubuntu release?
[19:57] <yoloyolo> Hi there, is there any way I can use cpufreq-set during a debian installation? You know, throttle the CPU? I have a bit of a hardware problem - overheating, and I can't go about fixing it as of now, but I need this box working.
[19:57] <yoloyolo> *ubuntu whoops
[19:57] <beatmasher> 10.10
[19:57] <traubisoda> theadmin: that's correct, but i have physical acces to the pc as well, and during shutdown after a while nothing happens, the animation stops
[19:57] <Dr_willis> !10.10
[19:57] <Dr_willis> beatmasher,  can you install anything>?  that is an EOL release
[19:58] <Mathnerd314> any good LDAP clients that aren't written in Java? I've tried JXplorer and Apache Directory Studio and they both fail because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/1006776
[19:58] <theadmin> traubisoda: Ah, that sounds rather familiar, it's a kernel power problem. Modify /etc/default/grub, add "reboot=bios" to the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[19:58] <Inoki> Hi guys,
[19:58] <Inoki> anybody using Plank?
[19:58] <traubisoda> theadmin: thanks, i'll try that right now
[19:59] <yoloyolo> Hi there, is there any way I can use cpufreq-set during an Ubuntu installation? You know, throttle the CPU? I have a bit of a hardware problem - overheating, and I can't go about fixing it as of now, but I need this box working.
[19:59] <theadmin> traubisoda: Then you'll have to forcefully shutdown somehow (pull the plug), but "sudo sync" first, to avoid data loss.
[19:59] <theadmin> traubisoda: After a reboot, it'll work fine, I hope.
[19:59] <Zentaur> it is a bug with ubiquity when i install with raid and encrypted home
[19:59] <Zentaur> is there a solution?
[19:59] <traubisoda> theadmin: i hope so too :)
[20:00] <Zentaur> may i download 12.04 again and try? maybe it has been solved
[20:00] <theadmin> traubisoda: Oh, sorry, after editing the file you'll also need to "sudo update-grub" for the changes to be applied.
[20:00] <theadmin> I keep forgetting that part... God, grub1 was easier
[20:00] <traubisoda> yeah:)
[20:00] <beatmasher> dr_willis,i cant download even hearts game
[20:00] <jrib> yoloyolo: well it's a live cd, so if you can make it to the point where it loads the live environment safely, you could use the command there...
[20:01] <theadmin> beatmasher: 10.10 is not a supported Ubuntu release. The repositories have been closed off.
[20:01] <Zentaur> by the way... how do i tell ubuntu to install only frree software?
[20:02] <theadmin> Zentaur: On the livecd, you could open the "Modes" menu and choose "Free Software Only". As for the repos, simply disable the restricted and multiverse repos.
[20:03] <theadmin> Zentaur: Both will lead to the same result. Although if you don't do the first, then Ubuntu may pull in propretiary drivers for your hardware during the install.
[20:05] <Inoki> Is there anyone who can help with Plank dock?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> !find plank
[20:06] <Zentaur> thanks theadmin
[20:07] <traubisoda> theadmin: work's like a charm! thank you very much!! :)
[20:08] <Zentaur> i must install from the will it install only free software if i choose "only free software" in the modes menu and then i try ubuntu?
[20:08] <Zentaur> i need to install from "try ubuntu"
[20:09] <beatmasher> ok. What release of linux would be best for laptop with sempron 3100+ @1,8Ghz 1gb ram intel chipset graphics
[20:09] <ph1rmw4r3> so my computer is really jacked up now
[20:09] <Nach0z> somethin' little
[20:09] <bizhanMona> HI, i have a PC board running Ubuntu 12.04 . It has two ethernet ports. One port is connected to an uplink switch. The other port is connected to a local switch. I would like to configure the PC as a DHCP server for devices connected to the local switch. How should I configure the Ethernet ports and server as DHCP server? thx
[20:09] <ikonia> !dhcp | bizhanMona
[20:09] <ph1rmw4r3> all i have is the xfce4-panel,
[20:10] <ph1rmw4r3> thats all that was in my script, so is that all thats going to start?
[20:10] <theadmin> Zentaur: Yes, also make sure not to mark the checkmark that's about installing the restricted-extras, that pulls in a whole bunch of propretiary stuff like Flash, MP3 codecs...
[20:10] <ikonia> ph1rmw4r3: why are you doing this if you have no idea what you are doing or trying to do
[20:10] <bizhanMona> ikonia: thanks
[20:11] <ph1rmw4r3> all i wanted was xfce4-panel to auto start at login
[20:11] <ikonia> bizhanMona: out of interest, why are you connected to the uplink port of a switch ?
[20:11] <ph1rmw4r3> so i made a script that starts it, and linked to it via ~/.profile
[20:12] <ph1rmw4r3> and now it works but nothing else works lol
[20:12] <Zentaur> theadmin, where is taht option?
[20:12] <Chat2581> Hi
[20:13] <ph1rmw4r3> hi
[20:13] <bizhanMona> ikonia: oh sorry I miss write. There are two switches, an uplink switch and local switch.  One of the server's port will be connected to one of the ports on the uplink switch and the other ethernet port will be connected to the local switch. I hope this clarifies the configuration ....
[20:13] <ph1rmw4r3> ikonia, where did i go wrong?
[20:14] <theadmin> Zentaur: The second install step, it has "Download updates while installing" and "Install this third-party software". The second one is to be unchecked.
[20:14] <ula-atze> hi all
[20:14] <Zentaur> i don't have the second option
[20:14] <theadmin> Zentaur: Oh, then I guess booting in Free Software mode removes it from the installer. That's clever.
[20:15] <theadmin> Wasn't aware of that
[20:15] <ula-atze> #xbuntu
[20:15] <Zentaur> :) thanks theadmin
[20:15] <Zentaur> you are great
[20:15] <ph1rmw4r3> maybe ubuntu is not for me i suppose yes?
[20:16] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: what are you trying to do?
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> all i want is my panel to auto start on login
[20:16] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: if you want to use xfce, install xubuntu? ;x
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> noo
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> all i want is the panel from it
[20:16] <ph1rmw4r3> and it works
[20:17] <daftykins> so you have a script but it's not working?
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> but i have to start it manualy with the command  xfce4-panel
[20:17] <daftykins> did you chmod +x the script?
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> the script works
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> yeah i chmod 777
[20:17] <ph1rmw4r3> but how to auto start?
[20:17] <daftykins> that's not exactly the way to do that, but ok
[20:18] <daftykins> what's the base distro? a standard ubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:18] <ph1rmw4r3> yesh
[20:19] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: tried running the 'startup applications' program?
[20:19] <daftykins> open the dash, type 'start' and it'll show up
[20:19] <ph1rmw4r3> daftykins, no where can i find that?
[20:20] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: i just said
[20:20] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159887/where-did-the-startup-applications-preferences-program-go
[20:20] <ph1rmw4r3> oh there is no dash
[20:21] <ph1rmw4r3> some one told me to add my script to ~/.profile and now it wont start all the way all i have is the panel i wanted
[20:22] <ph1rmw4r3> is there a command to open the start up apps
[20:22] <guideX> is there something for ubuntu 12.10 mysql in a ui (other than workbench)?
[20:22] <Kion> Hello I renamed a directory, and now Unity will not find any of the files in that folder, is there a command to make unity redo its index or something?
[20:22] <daftykins> ph1rmw4r3: read that website.
[20:22] <ph1rmw4r3> phpmyadmin  is great for sql admin
[20:23] <guideX> hmm in a ui would be nice
[20:23] <guideX> a program or such
[20:23] <guideX> not a webpage or in the terminal if possible
[20:23] <ph1rmw4r3> no its a web ui
[20:23] <ph1rmw4r3> its a web page but it is very nice
[20:23] <hybirdd> have you tried the MySQL workbench?
[20:23] <daftykins> guideX: there's probably a channel for mysql.
[20:24] <guideX> yeah I don't really like the workbench
[20:24] <guideX> I can't figure out how to create a database or restore
[20:24] <guideX> i'm used to like sqlyog or ms management studio
[20:24] <guideX> i'm in mysql, but I can't remember the nickserv login command to identify myself heh
[20:24] <guideX> so I can't speak
[20:25] <guideX> it's like nickserv login user password right?
[20:25] <Tanelt> Hi all, How to use grep command to find a 'String' in a directory but also in sub directories?
[20:25] <hybirdd> if you feel adventurous you can use wine to get sqlyog
[20:25] <daftykins> guideX: /msg nickserv hello
[20:25] <guideX> ug wine, I was hopeing for something native to avoid issues heh
[20:25] <daftykins> Tanelt: "ls -r /path | grep -i <word to search for>" ?
[20:26] <kike_> Hi all
[20:26] <daftykins> guideX: /msg nickserv identify <pass> i think
[20:26] <djzn> is there anything other CD burner for linux with the same feature as Brasero, like splitting one large file in multiple tracks?
[20:26] <hybirdd> correct daftykins
[20:27] <Tanelt> Thanks daftykins
[20:27] <theadmin> djzn: xfburn and k3b are popular alternatives.
[20:27] <kike_> I have a problem trying to make an ISO from the CD-ROM that comes with my children school books... Neither Brasero nor K3B make a 'mountable0 ISO
[20:28] <kike_> any ideas?
[20:28] <djzn> theadmin, K3B does not split audio, does it?
[20:28] <daftykins> kike_: has it got multiple tracks, data and audio?
[20:28] <kike_> should have some kind of _ucking DRM isn't it?
[20:28] <tqrst> Tanelt: grep -R
[20:28] <theadmin> djzn: I am not sure, honestly.
[20:28] <kike_> no, just Data
[20:28] <tqrst> Tanelt: no need to pointlessly pipe with ls
[20:29] <daftykins> tqrst: my bad
[20:29] <daftykins> the whole world will end now that one extra command got used :'(
[20:29] <daftykins> ;)
[20:29] <daftykins> kike_: i'd try and dd it to an image
[20:29] <tqrst> Tanelt: also, consider using ack instead of grep if you are going to be searching through directories that contain source control metadata (.svn, .git etc)\
[20:29] <tqrst> daftykins: and it will be all your fault :p
[20:30] <daftykins> tqrst: that's some serious pressure
[20:30] <tqrst> daftykins: piping is serious business
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> djzn  i guess this comes close to what you want to do http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq_i18n?s=files&i=split
[20:30] <tqrst> if you use them all up, there won't be any left for anyone
[20:30] <kike_> sorry daftykins but i don't understand "dd"
[20:30] <Dr_willis> kike_,  you sure its a cd and not a dvd?
[20:30] <Tanelt> Thanks for the additional useful information tqrst
[20:31] <Dr_willis> or it may be a dual-data optical disk. music and data
[20:31] <daftykins> kike_: as in, the use of it?
[20:31] <kike_> yes, CD not DVD
[20:31] <Dr_willis> kike_,  so it is an audio cd?
[20:31] <kike_> no, it's only a data CD
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> djzn  there's also this http://danilodellaquila.com/blog/how-to-split-an-audio-.flac-file-using-ubuntu-linux
[20:31] <Dr_willis> then just copy the files from it to a directory.
[20:31] <kike_> just files inside
[20:31] <MartynKeigher> hey, so i just installed ubuntu 12.04 (Desktop) whats the best app to modify the appearance? and resize the launcher icons?
[20:32] <daftykins> kike_: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/write/image.iso
[20:32] <Dr_willis> unless its like a PC game...
[20:32] <daftykins> kike_: where 'cdrom' is your optical device of course
[20:32] <kike_> it's a CD for kids
[20:32] <kike_> those wich comes with school books
[20:32] <Dr_willis> a data cd,,, that does what.... its got programs on  it you run on a windows machine?
[20:32] <kike_> daftykins, will give it a try thanks
[20:33] <sakkemo> the nipple on my Lenovo doesn't seem to work on 12.10, it did on 12.04. Anyone else had the same problem?
[20:33] <kike_> Dr_willis, yes, of course they are programs for windows, some kind of virtual book and utils
[20:33] <Dr_willis> kike_,  then its possible theres also audio tracks on the cd the apps use.
[20:33] <Dr_willis> that can confuse  copy apps.
[20:34] <djzn> MonkeyDust, actually all of that is a workaround. I wanted a feature like Brasero does... split the large flac. However, brasero burns STATIC when you do this.
[20:34] <Dr_willis> dd should be able to copy it.  unless its some really weird protection
[20:34] <kike_> Dr_willis, no, it's not possible. no audio tracks on this cd
[20:34] <kike_> let's go for dd
[20:34] <Dr_willis> if theres no audio tracks.. then just copy the files to a directory. No need to image the whole disk
[20:34] <kike_> :) i'll be back asap
[20:35] <Zentaur> does anybody know how to update the installer while trying ubuntu?
[20:35] <Dr_willis> making a 700mb image thats holding 20mb of a game.. :) is a little overkill
[20:35] <kike_> was thinking in make an image cause it's easier for me to move and/mount in the netbook
[20:36] <Dr_willis> if the game works in wine.. most likely you dont need to mount the iso at all.. just copy the files to a dir.. and run the game from there
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> djzn  i know, that's what i said 'comes close to what you want to do'
[20:36] <kike_> yes.. but it's about 300 MB. both K3B and brasero make the image... but after an "succesfully done" i'm not able to mount or even oper with the archive manager
[20:36] <kike_> promts a weird error
[20:37] <kike_> "/media/kike/SANTILLANA"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/loop0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:37] <kike_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0p1"
[20:37] <kike_> to be more exactly...
[20:37] <daftykins> kike_: i'd personally just mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/image.iso instead of using an archiving prog
[20:38] <Dr_willis> !iso
[20:38] <Dr_willis> thats the generic  'mount failed' error message.
[20:38] <daftykins> ^ that too, if you wanna have it actually work
[20:39]  * daftykins tips his hat to Dr_willis 
[20:39] <djzn> MonkeyDust, I actually don't want to SPLIT the file...
[20:39] <djzn> MonkeyDust, I want to create a cuesheet that goes with it, so its burnable from the cue...
[20:41] <kike_> daftykins, your option for mounting says "Warning [...] seems to be read only" and doesn't mount it :(
[20:42] <daftykins> kike_: see the ubottu message Dr_willis triggered after i said that
[20:43] <kike_> i see... basically the same witout ISO specs... let's try!
[20:44] <kike_> ok, just the same
[20:44] <daftykins> moans it's read only? 0o
[20:44] <Dr_willis> an iso file would get mounted read only,,  yes
[20:45] <daftykins> didn't know it said that
[20:46] <kike_> Dr_willis, looks like it works!
[20:47] <kike_> so, the iso was made well
[20:47] <kike_> it's the mounter wich isn't working?
[20:48] <kike_> I can at least see the files, as it's a windows CD... let's see if Wine can open it!
[20:49] <kike_> Dr_willis, daftykins THANK YOU so much, help me a lot
[20:49] <daftykins> kike_: np :)
[20:50] <kike_> i'll try your mentioned dd option too, just to see how it works (have to take a look at the man dd first:)
[20:52] <Frojdholm> Hi, i just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and i want to move the menu bar down to the window borders instead of having them in the top bar. How would i do that?
[20:53] <Frojdholm> any one know a way to do that?
[20:54] <xangua> Frojdholm: saw a tutorial to doing it in webupd8 a long time ago
[20:54] <Frojdholm> xangua: ok i'll search their site
[20:54] <xangua> by the time 12.04 was released
[20:55] <kike_> Ok, one question daftykins , in order to make the dd, i need to know the dev for my cd-rw USB device
[20:55] <kike_> more /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info says something like sr0
[20:56] <kike_> is /dev/sr0 my usb cd-rw unit? sounks weird, used to hdx and sdx ¿?
[20:56] <histo> kike_: /dev/cdrom
[20:56] <histo> kike_: unless you hvae multiple cdroms
[20:56] <daftykins> kike_: "ls -l /dev/cd*" will probably say that it's cdrom0 / cdrom
[20:57] <budmang> anyone use drivers other then default for their broadcom NIC chipsets? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/bge.4freebsd.html
[20:57] <cloudgeek> MAC os x tool GeekTool , alternative for ubuntu
[20:57] <cloudgeek> is any
[20:58] <kike_> yes!  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 feb  4 21:24 /dev/cdrw -> sr0
[20:58] <cloudgeek> ?
[20:58] <kike_> ant /dev/cdrom too histo
[20:58] <histo> !enter | guide
[20:58] <tb01110100> Is Ubuntu 12.04 unable to write to DVD-R disks?
[20:58] <histo> kike_: yeah /dev/cdrom  is usually a safe bet. It points to the apropriate device
[20:58] <histo> tb01110100: no
[20:59] <histo> budmang: you need firmware for broadcom cards
[20:59] <histo> !bcm | budmang
[20:59] <budmang> histo: Its the BCM57xx series...  its not wifi.
[21:00] <kunji> cloudgeek: Please rephrase your question, I'm not really sure what you're asking
[21:00] <inv3nt0r> Hi everyone. Does anyone here have experience setting up AFP using 'netatalk' ?
[21:01] <Dave77> why is it so difficult for game dev to make their current games for ubuntu/linux?  Is that all there is for 3D OpenGL?
[21:01] <kike_> hmmm that's what i don't like about console... no progress bar! ;) Done  sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/kike/Escritorio/santitest.iso and have to have faith about it's progressing!
[21:01] <BluesKaj> !steam | Dave77
[21:01] <cervO> yes inv3ntor
[21:02] <tb01110100> Is dd able to write an image to a DVD?
[21:02] <tb01110100> !source
[21:02] <inv3nt0r> cervO: I'm trying to get things going on Server 12.04, and have followed a few different guides but fail to connect.
[21:03] <kike_> BTW - hate valve! got a raeon HD4800 and finally can be able to use it using a ppa wich have to downgrade xorg server and STEAM doesn't work with this version og xorg
[21:03] <kike_> i hate them!
[21:04] <inv3nt0r> cervO: On the Mac client, I can see the server but I am unable to connect with any users... It seems to know when a user does not exist, so it looks like it is attempting authentication
[21:05] <ejv> you hate a company because software which is essentially in alpha doesn't $work? :\
[21:05] <budmang> is there a seperate 12.04LTS room?
[21:05] <inv3nt0r> ejv: They should work faster ;)
[21:05] <bobolopolis> kike_: thats more an issue with the amd legacy drivers than valve
[21:05] <kike_> yes, basically
[21:05] <kike_> I know :(
[21:06] <kike_> i can't understand why a 1GB DDR5 card is LEGACY.
[21:06] <kike_> but it's legacy in windows too and it works there as a charm
[21:06] <ejv> instead of complaining, do something about it, file a report
[21:06] <kike_> hate them all :)
[21:07] <zaven> aaa
[21:07] <kike_> ejv, i read a lot, there is one official workarround and they don't seem to be receptive to requests
[21:07] <kike_> should have to buy a new one
[21:08] <kunji> kike_: I was thinking about trying Steam soon... guess I should expect trouble with my 4870?
[21:08] <kike_> with propietary drivers YES
[21:09] <bel3atar> what's the package name of the default unity theme?
[21:09] <kunji> kike_: Is it just Steam that isn't behaving for you, or is the problem more general?
[21:09] <InFlames> anyone seen a weird issue where the lock screen falsely gives invalid password?
[21:10] <bobolopolis> amd did update the legacy driver with the latest release a few weeks ago, could try installing it directly rather than the older version in the repos
[21:10] <kike_> with the ones that comes with ubuntu worked, but too slow (in a phenom 2 x6 1045)
[21:10] <kike_> at least for me
[21:10] <kike_> not an expert as everyone can see :)
[21:11] <disharmonic> Well the whole point of the legacy driver update was to get better steam compatibility afaik
[21:11] <kike_> kunji, now with the legacy amd drivers installed through ppa (can't remember wich one) it's just steam
[21:12] <kike_> i have no other graphical problem, 3d is able even in vmware
[21:12] <kike_> enabled (excuse my english)
[21:13] <bel3atar> what's the package name of the default unity theme?
[21:13] <kike_> and the point is that the only error seems to be that steam requires a simple and stupid RGB call to somewhere than can be fixed with 10 commands.
[21:13] <kike_> but you have to do it every time you want to play
[21:15] <disharmonic> bel3atar, Ambiance iirc
[21:15] <dforthman> Hello - I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and I don't see any support for L2TP/IPSec VPNs in the connection menu. Every search I've done on Google has nothing useful. Has anyone been able to configure Ubuntu to use a L2TP/IPSec VPN client?
[21:15] <InFlames> my lock screen is all white, my card is an ati 5450
[21:15] <bel3atar> disharmonic: what's the package name so I can get it with apt-get?
[21:15] <nimtz> not sure where's the best place to ask this but here goes, i have a X-less box and I want to globally change the dark blue color to something else? (without using framebuffer console)
[21:16] <dforthman> bel3atar, apt-cache search ambiance
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> dforthman  ubuntu server?
[21:16] <nimtz> s/?//
[21:16] <dforthman> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu Desktop. I want to use the client, not the server.
[21:16] <bel3atar> dforthman: can you please do it for me, I'm not running ubuntu?
[21:16] <disharmonic> bel3atar, light-themes
[21:16] <bel3atar> disharmonic: thanks =)
[21:17] <disharmonic> bel3atar, it's also useful to learn the cmd dforthman  posted
[21:17] <disharmonic> ah right didn't see your other post
[21:18] <kike_> daftykins, dd saved me this one, works like a charm
[21:19] <kike_> ¡made ISO from all book CDs!
[21:19] <dforthman> Also, what happened to the "Online Accounts" that used to be on the top bar? I haven't used Ubuntu in a while.
[21:19] <Triups> Ubuntu 12.10:  How do I set mtu in interfaces file for my nics.  I have tried mtu 9000  but this is ignored.  I could probably do a post-up or pre-up but I would think there would be a proper way
[21:19] <daftykins> kike_: excellent :)
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> dforthman  is this useful http://www.purevpn.com/config/l2tp_ip_ubuntu.php
[21:20] <daftykins> kike_: now they're childproof! ish ;)
[21:20] <dforthman> MonkeyDust, thanks. I'll look over that website now.
[21:20] <kike_> until they know have to do a sudo... yes!
[21:21] <kike_> root quits? lol such a nickname!
[21:22] <daftykins> kike_: means someone is foolishly running their IRC client under root ;) a big no-no!
[21:22] <kike_> first lesson here was : never ever ever connect as root :)
[21:22] <kike_> thougt he/she was some kind of op arround here
[21:23] <Eizcreme> hay
[21:23] <kike_> Hola Eizcreme
[21:23] <Eizcreme> Jemand aus Deutschland?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> !de
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> kike_  an op is smart enough to not use IRC as root
[21:25] <kike_> for sure, just tought about something more about a big EGO, not thought someone could even connect here as a root
[21:25] <_helios_> I think it would be worse to have a SSH sever that allows root acces than using IRC as root lmao
[21:26] <BluesKaj> smarts don't have much to do with it , knowledge is most important
[21:26] <kike_> I can remember IRCap times, i wouldn't like to see something like that in my machine
[21:27] <kike_> but once seen the last java exploit... nothing (propietary at least) is safe :(
[21:29] <chop> does permanently mount samba network folder use more battery?
[21:30] <iceroot> chop: its not mounted permanently, its timeout based and when you want to reach the mount a new connection will be established
[21:31] <civixier> I have a problem with right click in Firefox. Whenever I right click in Firefox, the menu appears for a split second before disappearing again. Using KDE if it's relevant.
[21:31] <chop> iceroot: oh, cool. thanks.
[21:32] <iceroot> how to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[21:32] <knoppix> hello
[21:32] <knoppix> anyone there
[21:32] <iceroot> knoppix: /n
[21:33] <knoppix> hello
[21:34] <knoppix> hello monkey
[21:34] <_helios_> Has anyone ever figured out what the .goutputstream-XLKJDKFJ is all about I have to do a rm .goutputstream* like twice a day now kinda annoying lol
[21:34] <knoppix> um no clue
[21:34] <dforthman> Ok, so I went ahead and turned on the ATI graphics and now I have no menus or icons.
[21:34] <knoppix> try resetting it
[21:35] <knoppix> it might help
[21:35] <Novus> anyone got info of doing dual boot on my android tablet?
[21:36] <knoppix> im having issues trying to copy over knoppix 7.03 to my HDD and i am having issues with it
[21:36] <_helios_> dforthman: you can try this if you don't want to restart push Ctrl+Alt+F1 after you login to the shell type kill -9 -1 it will reset the gui.
[21:36] <dforthman> _helios_, Will it also disable the ATI driver?
[21:37] <_helios_> dforthman: no it will just reset the gui without rebooting
[21:37] <dforthman> I've restarted twice and the GUI still hasn't come back.
[21:37] <dforthman> So it might be an incompatibility with my card.
[21:37] <kike_> _helios_, thanks, i keep this command for the future
[21:38] <kike_> dforthman, something like that happened to me... an i had to uninstall unity and gnome, and the i installed cynnamon
[21:38] <kike_> after that i installed gnome again
[21:38] <_helios_> kike_: np I use it when my gui freezes on stuff
[21:39] <dforthman> I'm just going to go back to the opensource driver haha
[21:39] <_helios_> dforthman: good choice ;)
[21:39] <AHaKuH> can anyone talk me how to write litle script for check is it samba server online and if it is to mount it ... ?
[21:40] <civixier> Ah, never mind, it seems to be one of the plugins causing this.
[21:40] <_helios_> AHaKuH: I never had good luck with SAMBA so I use SSH
[21:41] <AHaKuH> SSH ? is it better _helios_
[21:41] <AHaKuH> ?
[21:41] <kike_> somebody kicked me or just my wifi falled again?
[21:41] <bel3atar> how do I fix my theme ?? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/image1360010677216513.jpg/
[21:41] <_helios_> AHaKuH: It wont give you access through nautilus like samba but you can do secure transfers and remote connect etc.
[21:42] <AHaKuH> _helios_: i see  but the smb server is at my local net so i do not need secure transfers
[21:42] <AHaKuH> _helios_: i just want to check is it online and if it is to mount it ...
[21:43] <Zentaur> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit crashes when installing and choosing encrypted /home
[21:43] <Zentaur> any idea how to solve it?
[21:43] <anonymous_> hello
[21:43] <TomyLobo> any hibernation involved? :)
[21:43] <_helios_> Zentaur: have you tried without encryption?
[21:44] <Zentaur> yes, it works
[21:44] <Zentaur> but i need to encrypt it
[21:45] <_helios_> Zentaur: why not use full disk encryption?
[21:45] <Zentaur> i need it to be easy, i'm not an expert ;)
[21:46] <_helios_> Zentaur: full disk encryption is easy it's just a option you check when installing,  I've got two machines full disk encrypted and it works good.
[21:46] <jimaji123> Can someone help me install wine so i can download games that are for windows?
[21:47] <_helios_> jimaji123: You should beable to install it through the Ubuntu Software Center
[21:48] <jimaji123> When i try to install it, it gives me a error
[21:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: not this again
[21:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: how many times do you need this explaining to you
[21:48] <jimaji123> Ikonia, its not working at all anymore.
[21:48] <ikonia> it won't work at all for what you want
[21:48] <ikonia> this was explained to you in great detail less than 24 hours again
[21:48] <Zentaur> _helios how do i do that? is it thechackbox when you enter the user, pssw, machine name....?
[21:49] <jimaji123> Ikonia, this morning some other people were helpnig me
[21:49] <_helios_> Zentaur: yes
[21:49] <jimaji123> They said that if i use wine, i get to install stuff that is for windwos.
[21:49] <jimaji123> Windows*
[21:49] <ikonia> that doesn't change anythin
[21:49] <ikonia> anything
[21:49] <ikonia> it will not work
[21:49] <Zentaur> that's what crashes
[21:49] <jimaji123> Ikonia, then why did they say that wine will let me install stuff for windows.
[21:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: I explained this to you yesterday, it is not appropritate for what you want and how you want to use it
[21:49] <_helios_> Zentaur: It's a full disk encryption option and a home folder you don't want to check the home folder option just the full disk.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Ikonia, your not helping me.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Your going over the stuff from yesterday, how about help me.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Im trying to install steam.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: correct because your needs are not compatible with the current solution
[21:50] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: for 12.04 you need to use the alternate iso, the option is not there in the desktop installer
[21:50] <jimaji123> And its not letting me.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: you just said you where trying to install wine
[21:50] <jimaji123> ...
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: now you're trying to install steam less than 20 seconds later
[21:50] <jimaji123> Not anymore.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:50] <jimaji123> Just help me install steam please, and stop being so rude.
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: this was half the prblem yesterday...you don't research/listen and just flit around every 20 seconds
[21:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm not being rude
[21:51] <Zentaur> mmm i'm afraid it is, well if we are talking of the same option
[21:51] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:51] <jimaji123> So, am i suposed to use the ubuntu software center for everything i want to download?
[21:51] <dforthman> Why is it so hard to switch between monitors unless you're streaking your mouse across the two at lightning speed?
[21:51] <ikonia> jimaji123: correct
[21:51] <_helios_> I'll be back
[21:52] <jimaji123> Okay.
[21:52] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:52] <jimaji123> I will search for steam
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: and accept the limitations of the current platform
[21:52] <jimaji123> And ill tell you what happens when i try to install steam, okay?
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam is not ther
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: there was explained to you 10 times yesterday
[21:52] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's a beta produt - you have the URL for how to install it
[21:52] <ikonia> this was explained to you in great detail approxitmatly 10 times less than 24 hours agao
[21:52] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:52] <jimaji123> So how else am i suposed to dl it.
[21:53] <jimaji123> Dont say anything mean just help.
[21:53] <jimaji123> I know its in beta for linux.
[21:53] <jimaji123> But how do i get it.
[21:53] <ikonia> exactly as the URL says
[21:53] <ikonia> as you've been told 10 times
[21:53] <ikonia> READ the url then FOLLOW the instructions
[21:53] <Caldrop> just got here, whats in beta?
[21:53] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: I again strongly advise you to use windows to play windows games
[21:53] <Tex_Nick> jimaji123:  some apps work with wine some don't, here is a list of known apps that do work ... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse%20Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true
[21:53] <jimaji123> Im on steam website right now.
[21:53] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: 12.10 encrypted home directory is different than full disk encryption.  unless they changed the installer recently, 12.04 only shows the encrypted home directory option unless you use the alternate installer
[21:54] <iiulian> Do you know any possibilities to not include the knife in the kitchetn.
[21:54] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:54] <Zentaur> i'll try
[21:54] <ikonia> iiulian: ?
[21:54] <iiulian> ikonia, UPnP
[21:55] <Zentaur> anyway, the option for encrypting my home doesn't work
[21:55] <ikonia> iiulian: what about it ?
[21:55] <Zentaur> there must be a workarround
[21:55] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Im messaging you.
[21:55] <ikonia> Zentaur: you've repeated this many times today
[21:55] <jimaji123> In the other tab
[21:55] <ikonia> jimaji123: I don't want a message outside of this channel from you please.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Ok.
[21:55] <jimaji123> Well, since steam in is beta, cant i download it from the website?
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: you have the steam/valve linux URL
[21:56] <bobolopolis> Zentaur: i've only used the full disk encryption, never used encrypted home so can't really help with that
[21:56] <jimaji123> No.
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: READ it
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: no what ?
[21:56] <jimaji123> Link me.
[21:56] <Zentaur> ok, i'll try full encryption :)
[21:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: no, you gave it to me yesterday, so I know you have it
[21:56] <jimaji123> Was it this? http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[21:56] <ikonia> no
[21:57] <ikonia> !steam |JZ|
[21:57] <ikonia> oops
[21:57] <dforthman> jimaji123, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Install+Steam+on+Ubuntu
[21:57] <Zentaur> runs the machine slower with that kind of encryption?
[21:57] <ikonia> !steam | jimaji123
[21:57] <ikonia> Zentaur: why do you wnat encyption ? really ?
[21:57] <Caldrops> why d you wanna steam on linux? :S
[21:58] <jimaji123> I know its in beta, but cant you still get it?
[21:58] <ikonia> jimaji123: READ the link
[21:58] <jimaji123> I see this.
[21:58] <jimaji123> getting the Steam client onto Linux with full functionality
[21:58] <Caldrops> steams linux list is empty anyone atm so dont go ape installing that
[21:58] <dforthman> jimaji123, all you have to do is read and follow directions, which is the same exact thing you would do if someone were to spell it out for you here.
[21:59] <Zentaur> if my cmputer is stollen i don't want my informtion to be stollen too
[21:59] <ikonia> Zentaur: what sort of information is that sensitive ?
[21:59] <Zentaur> this happened to a friend
[21:59] <Tex_Nick> jimaji123:  /join #ubuntu-steam ... this isn't the proper channel for steam discussion
[21:59] <Zentaur> it is informtion sensitive enough not to say here ;)
[22:00] <jimaji123> But im having problems with installing stuff anywase.
[22:00] <ikonia> I very much doubt that
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: no you are not
[22:00] <ikonia> we went through this yesteday in great detail again
[22:00] <jimaji123> Ikonia yes i am.
[22:00] <jimaji123> When i download something for a website.
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: what can you not install ?
[22:00] <jimaji123> It opens the Archiv manager
[22:00] <ikonia> jimaji123: it opens in archive manager and fails ?
[22:00] <jimaji123> Yes.
[22:00] <ronaldo33> hello.....everyone
[22:00] <iiulian> ikonia, I want to play music from Rhythmbox to my Samsung TV
[22:01] <jimaji123> I am not trolling dude im serious right now.
[22:01] <ikonia> jimaji123: did I, I did I not explain this to you yesterday
[22:01] <DeadWeasel> I setup my 12.04 for RDP, but I got a Connection Refused message, can't get in. (port is correctly forwarding to my local IP)
[22:01] <jimaji123> When it opens the archive manager and it fails.
[22:01] <jimaji123> Then i cant get it.
[22:01] <iiulian> ikonia, in my phone I can select the device where to output the music but I cannot from my PC
[22:01] <jimaji123> Why does it fail??
[22:01] <DeadWeasel> ay ideas how to get rdp working from outside my network?
[22:01] <ikonia> jimaji123: did I not explaint to you, you where trying to open non-archives in archive manager and you should download it to your hard disk ?
[22:02] <jimaji123> Okay ikonia
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <jimaji123> When it installed it opens in the ubuntu software center
[22:02] <Caldrops> well deadweasel u prolly want to fwd ports on the active network u wanna rdp into
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <jimaji123> And this part is the problem
[22:02] <jimaji123> Ikonia wait.
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:02] <klaus__> moritz_89
[22:02] <jimaji123> It opens in the ubuntu software center and i says " Wrong architecture i386
[22:02] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:03] <DeadWeasel> Caldrops: the ports are correctly forwarded, I was rdping into my win7 machine fine, then I switched to ubuntu, made sure IP was same, and can't get in after doing setup tasks.
[22:03] <jimaji123> Why does it say wrong architecture i386 ikonia.
[22:03] <ikonia> jimaji123: did that happen yes/no
[22:03] <jimaji123> No.
[22:05] <No_One> Hello.. I have a clean and formatted usb drive, but my laptop says invalid system disk
[22:06] <No_One> just the iso is on the drive
[22:06] <bekks> No_One: Thats not a bootable USB drive.
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: How did you create the drive?
[22:07] <No_One> ?
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: Sorry.
[22:07] <No_One> ._.
[22:08] <jhutchins_wk> No_One: The system is trying to boot from a disk that does not have a boot image.  Where is the bios trying to boot from?  What are you trying to do?
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> i need a wallpaper changer like it's build in windows 7
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> for ubuntu
[22:08] <szx> will it work if I compile a c++ binary  on Ubuntu 12.10 and run it on 8.04 with 12.10's libstdc++ ?
[22:08] <vice_> hello
[22:08] <NeoMatrix55> hello
[22:09] <vice_> where are you from?
[22:09] <raven_> hi
[22:09] <b0t> Saludos, alguien por aqui?
[22:09] <NeoMatrix55> I start to love ubuntu....great os especially sequrity
[22:09] <No_One> jhutchins_wk, I have a usb flash drive cruzer micro, and I downloaded the iso to the flash/usb drive and tried restarting, going into boot menu and using the usb setting, and it spit out that it was an invalid disk
[22:10] <raven_> CVLC - how to increase the buffer size / caching time for streams?
[22:10] <b0t> English? or Spanish?
[22:10] <xangua>  http://www.iloveubuntu.net/master-your-wallpapers-variety-and-slidewall-ubuntu-software-center NeoMatrix55 i use varietywhen i am bored :P
[22:10] <iceroot> NeoMatrix55: the most important part is that it is free software (as in free speech)
[22:10] <NeoMatrix55> I'm from Lithuania
[22:10] <pepperjack> !es > b0t
[22:10] <b0t> Ok
[22:10] <mechanism> hello! it is possible to share user's home folder on separate partition with ubuntu? so I wanna mount this hdd to ubuntu as home and share same user folder between ubuntu and mac os
[22:11] <TomyLobo> [23:08:41] <szx> will it work if I compile a c++ binary  on Ubuntu 12.10 and run it on 8.04 with 12.10's libstdc++ ?
[22:11] <TomyLobo> there's a term for what you will go through if you try that
[22:11] <TomyLobo> library hell
[22:11] <mechanism> I meant current home directory belongs to mac system
[22:11] <bekks> TomyLobo: That will most likely just break your 8.04, when you're going to use a newer libstdc++
[22:12] <pepperjack> mechanism: I'm not aware of any problems with this.  an nfs share?
[22:12] <szx> no I mean if I just copy the single libstdc++.so and use LD_LOAD_LIBRARY
[22:12] <pepperjack> mechanism: that's commonly done
[22:12] <bekks> szx: Why dont you compile a static binary then?
[22:12] <mechanism> so it's doable. thanx a lot
[22:12] <xmlnewbi> so i just got vhosts working on my Ubuntu server. although when i go to my server IP adress in a browser I get one of my folder sites. my default doesnt have a dir so I dont know why it would do that. I want to put a small admin page for it
[22:13] <lolcat> My ubuntu is complaining on unmet dependencies for mysql-server, how do I make it ignore the error and remove the crap?
[22:13] <Tex_Nick> !who
[22:13] <mechanism> I wasnt sure if ubuntu wanna deal with user home directory formatted in mac filesystem
[22:13] <No_One> jhutchins_wk, this is what it looks like in my drive
[22:13] <No_One> http://prntscr.com/rl4vj
[22:13] <scott_puopolo> anyone want to give me some pointers on using modprobe??
[22:14] <pepperjack> mechanism: well as long as it's a shared folder you'll use nfs or samba as the protocol.  Im honestly not sure wha the default fs of osx is but ubuntu wont care.  you're talking about a network share right not dual boot?
[22:14] <mechanism> i'm talking about dual boot
[22:15] <scott_puopolo> i 'upgraded' to 12.04...i don't always understand why items that used to work in previous versions don't work in newer versions
[22:17] <FergusL> why isn't libavutil updated in Ubuntu's repos ?
[22:18] <Django> hi
[22:18] <scott_puopolo> anyway, i'm trying to get my wireless to stay working, i figured out how to disable a conflicting driver and use a working driver, stop and start networking to pick up the working driver, but i would like to make this a permanent change
[22:18] <No_One> anyone that wants to put input on my problem is free to help
[22:19] <scott_puopolo> should be easy for someone versed in modprobe i believe
[22:19] <xmlnewbi> 42
[22:20] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Probably just put bad driver name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  and good module name in /etc/modules
[22:23] <guideX> is there a way to improve performance with ubuntu 12.10/unity? the animations are VERY slow
[22:23] <guideX> it's like watching paint dry
[22:23] <kunji> scott_puopolo: I'm not really familiar with using modprobe, but the man page looks helpful
[22:23] <guideX> sometimes I just reset the vm instead of waiting for the animations to finish
[22:23] <sunsetlover> hey guys, i just installed steam and i want to uninstall it , so how can i uninstall
[22:23] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  what is the function of modprobe.d folder?
[22:24] <scott_puopolo> kunji: thanks for the tip, i have been reading it but i'm seeing redundant locations and wasn't sure which area to use
[22:24] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Wen te system detects hardware it goes there first to see if there are certain drivers over overs it sould load, or ones to blacklist if there is certain hardware combinations or quirks.
[22:25]  * genii-around smashes on his "H" key for a minute to loosen it up
[22:25] <xangua> guideX: virtual machine¿ why are you using unity on it¿ better try xfce or kde without efects
[22:25] <scott_puopolo> i'm trying to learn the hierarchy of which folders are looked at and in which order
[22:25] <guideX> but I wish to run unity...
[22:25] <kunji> scott_puopolo:modprobe.d has it's own manpage :P
[22:25] <guideX> isn't there a way to run it without the animations?
[22:26] <lampthor> coucou :)
[22:26] <scott_puopolo> does anyone kunji, genii-around, know of a good reference for understanding which folders / files are read in what order?
[22:27] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Sorry, not offhand.
[22:28] <dtmbmw325i> my hdmi suddenly stopped working. I am using the standard ubuntu 12.10 display manager with an intel i915 video card. Where can I start troubleshooting this?
[22:28] <julian-dephiki> it's not often that I come in here to ask questions.  My php installation on my webserver is somehow setting it's path to just "/bin
[22:28] <julian-dephiki> "
[22:29] <julian-dephiki> any one have any ideas where this is set normally.
[22:29] <scott_puopolo> genii-around: that's ok, so you think it looks at modprobe file to see what should be added to the kernel?
[22:29] <ikonia> julian-dephiki: php.ini ?
[22:29] <julian-dephiki> Can't seem to find it in there, ikonia
[22:29] <j`ey> how can I turn on "universe" in 12.04?
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> julian-dephiki: php.ini or mods-available php5.conf
[22:30] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Normally it would be something like udev sees something, then looks in it's rules to see what the usual driver and devicename is... then it looks at modprobe.d to see if there's some special exception for your hardware before it actually loads something
[22:31] <kunji> scott_puopolo: Seems like it will use all configuration files in modprobe.d, I don't think the order matters
[22:31] <dtmbmw325i> j`ey, open software center and go to edit. Look for sources on that menu and left click it. You can choose what you want on the first tab
[22:31] <nOStahl> hi all, i have an .xsession-errors file in my home dir that is 238.9 GIGS! and rising
[22:32] <Twisted_Pleasure> Ha! You're screwed.
[22:32] <Twisted_Pleasure> Hope you have a back-up =P
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> O?
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> Oh look!  There's a manpage for modprobe.d!
[22:32] <Nach0z> lol
[22:32] <scott_puopolo> ok, don't hate on me but i'm used to Haiku / BeOS method which uses a system hierarchy as the base and then uses whatever it uses under the /home/config as a supercede to the system config
[22:32] <raven_> i need a simple bash endless loop with 1 second delay - how would that look like?
[22:32] <jrib> nOStahl: you should read it and see why it's so big
[22:32] <sliva> hey guys does anyone have any idea why my microphone input is too quiet ?
[22:33] <jrib> raven_: look into "sleep"
[22:33] <nOStahl> I can't open a text file 239 gigs big
[22:33] <raven_> jrib, do you know the syntax for the loop function?
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> scott_puopolo: I doubt we will. What's the problem?
[22:33] <jrib> raven_: for i in 1 2 3; do echo $i; done
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: I think I would probably kill X, remove the file, then restart X and see what's populating it.
[22:33] <nOStahl> ran tail on it,  PM Authentication deferred - ignoring client message
[22:34] <jrib> nOStahl: you can use head and tail to investigate the beginning and end of it
[22:34] <raven_> jrib 123?
[22:34] <sliva> is there anything i can do about it ?
[22:34] <jrib> raven_: whatever you want to loop over
[22:34] <julian-dephiki> oh, it's a bug
[22:34] <julian-dephiki> time to report that shit!
[22:34] <jrib> raven_: you can also use while...
[22:34] <jrib> !cli | raven_
[22:34] <Twisted_Pleasure> Open it with "less"
[22:34] <DeadWeasel> Anybody recommend a encryption cli/gui for 12.04?
[22:34] <DeadWeasel> I need to import keys and whatnot
[22:34] <jrib> DeadWeasel: gpg? seahorse?
[22:35] <Twisted_Pleasure> ss64.com/bash/
[22:35] <scott_puopolo> i can read the manpages but i'm looking for the flow..which file(s) are read in which order?  if there is a manpage or a web reference that documents this, just point me in that direction
[22:35] <jrib> scott_puopolo: what context?
[22:35] <kunji> sliva: Maybe, have you tried the stuff in the graphical mixer?  Also have your tried alsamixer?
[22:35] <Twisted_Pleasure> ss64.com/bash/ Might do the trick
[22:36] <sliva> kunji: just tried both :)
[22:36] <sliva> pulseaudio and alsamixer
[22:36] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: Are you running vnc?
[22:36] <sliva> not really much better
[22:36] <nOStahl> yes
[22:36] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: Files in /lib/udev/rules.d are read and processed in numerical order.
[22:36] <scott_puopolo> jrib: hardware init, modprobe, overriding default system init behavior
[22:36] <colonelqubit> The LibreOffice package in 12.04 LTS is 3.5.4.2. The LO QA team tells me that even 3.5.7 is EOL. Any idea on when we'll see a bump to 3.6? Are the maintainers waiting for 4.0 to drop?
[22:37] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  thank you for that
[22:37] <sliva> is there anything else worth trying ?
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> nOStahl: Something is not configured properly, or it may be a bug.  Toss the message into google.
[22:37] <ikonia> colonelqubit: I do not believe you will see a jump
[22:37] <nOStahl> k
[22:37] <nOStahl> ty
[22:38] <sliva> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998
[22:38] <sliva> looks to be a popular problem :)
[22:38] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: You can do your own rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/   as well
[22:38] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Generally files are either concatenated or parsed in the same order that the directory listing is read, which is alphabetical.  It depends on what's reading them.   Linus isn't one program that does things the same way all the time.
[22:38] <colonelqubit> ikonia: That sounds crazy to me. 12.04 will have support for the next 5 years -- is it going to be stuck using the LO 3.5 branch the entire time?
[22:38] <xangua> colonelqubit: you can try the libre office ppa (on your own) if you wish to use a recent one
[22:38] <ikonia> colonelqubit: I believe so yes
[22:38] <colonelqubit> xangua: Sure, I'll do that.
[22:39] <colonelqubit> xangua: So the official ubuntu policy is: If you want something newer that LO 3.5, you need to upgrade your distro?
[22:39] <jrib> !sru | colonelqubit
[22:39] <colonelqubit> I just want to know so I can tell users who ask LO for information
[22:39] <kunji> sliva: Hmm, anything after that starts to get kind of messy, but you could try.  I haven't read it yet, but this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Line_Input.2BAC8-Microphone_Troubleshooting
[22:41] <scott_puopolo> ok all, not looking to be spoonfed, just looking for opinions on how it's normally done, hearing that it varies from distro to distro is 'disturbing'
[22:41] <raven_> jrib, do you know how to close cvlc on any error? because without closing cvlc the script does not make sense... :)
[22:41] <jrib> raven_: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[22:42] <colonelqubit> xangua: How supported are the PPAs? (you break it, you get to keep both pieces?)
[22:42] <jrib> scott_puopolo: we don't know what "it" is in your sentence
[22:42] <kunji> colonelqubit: It might not use the 3.5 branch the whole time, it's pretty rare for them to do a major version update on a LTS release, but it is not entirely unheard of.
[22:42] <scott_puopolo> jrib:  sorry, i was looking above for some help with the proper use of modprobe
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Not from distro to distro as much as from daemon to daemon.
[22:43] <colonelqubit> kunji: Given the development pace of LO, 3.5 is already pretty outdated
[22:43] <xangua> colonelqubit: ppa's are supported by the ones who maintain them
[22:43] <raven_> jrib, i need to record a stream using cvlc but sometimes the stream link disappears for 3 seconds. setting caching up and http-reconnect did not prevent the recording to stop so i at least try to restart the recording
[22:43] <DeadWeasel> can someone help me out with seahore-nautilus?  i installed it but can't find the right key to import
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Have you read the relevant man pages?
[22:43] <colonelqubit> kunji: 4.0 fixes a lot of things in 3.5. In just 2 years, 3.5 will basically be a dinosaur
[22:44] <scott_puopolo> i have a wireless chipset that was working in previous versions but was not working in 12.04
[22:44] <jrib> raven_: I'd ask the #vlc channel how to best approach that
[22:44] <colonelqubit> I don't expect the LO QA team to do anything more than tag and file bugs for that branch
[22:44] <raven_> jrib, i do already
[22:44] <DeadWeasel> anybody know a good channel for helping with encryption?
[22:44] <jrib> DeadWeasel: #math?  What is your actual question?
[22:44] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  that's just it,  i'm not exactly sure where to modify so i'm not sure which to read;  i did read modprobe.d, modprobe.conf
[22:45] <ClientAlive> ubotu "ubuntu-desktop"
[22:45] <ClientAlive> how do I do ubotu?
[22:45] <sliva> kunji: tnx i will give it a try
[22:45] <kunji> colonelqubit: Yeah, but the intent is for it to be super stable, so in a general sense even when the old version isn't as good, upgrading could break the workarounds that people have been using.  I would indeed recommend not using the LTS release if you want more recent versions.
[22:45] <ClientAlive> !ubotu
[22:45] <ClientAlive> !ubotu ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <ikonia> ClientAlive: what do you want ot know
[22:45] <DeadWeasel> jrib - i created my keys, copied the entire folder output by pgp, now i'm trying to import into ubuntu.  It doesn't seem to see what I want to import
[22:45] <ClientAlive> "<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu ubuntu-desktop"
[22:46] <kunji> colonelqubit: I can't speak on Ubuntu's official policy though, I, and most others in here, are just other users and are not representative of Ubuntu by and large.
[22:46] <jrib> DeadWeasel: what doesn't seem to see what you want to import?  How are you trying exactly?
[22:46] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: Basically either one can be used.  modprobe.d exists so that packages can drop files there rather than trying to edit modprobe.conf.
[22:46] <ClientAlive> ikonia: when I try to get rid of evince it tells me it has to also remove "ubuntu-desktop" <- this sounds bad to me but I really don't know what it is
[22:46] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | ClientAlive
[22:46] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's a metapackage, it won't cause damage removing it, but I'd advise not removing it unless you have to
[22:47] <DeadWeasel> using ubuntus "Password and Keys" I went to File>import
[22:47] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  so these files are merged at startup?
[22:47] <phunyguy> So I have XChat installed, with the indicator plugin, and it seems to open a new xchat instance when I select it from there... is this STILL a bug?
[22:47] <colonelqubit> kunji: Okay, maybe I'll talk to the ubuntu guy who works on LO
[22:47] <DeadWeasel> anyone know what the private key is named by default?
[22:47] <jrib> !who | DeadWeasel
[22:47] <kunji> colonelqubit: Yeah, that would be good ^_^
[22:47] <tekk> hi guys, i've installed 12.04 server on several mac mini core i7 late 2012's in the past few days…. trying the same today on a core i5 late 2012 is giving me issues…. it just goes into a "blinking" prompt after selecting the disc… and the efi boot just doesn't work at all
[22:47] <ClientAlive> ikonia: is there any way to get rid of evince (preferrably entirely) that you would suggest?
[22:47] <tekk> anyone know any issues with that specific mac mini?
[22:48] <jrib> DeadWeasel: did you mean gpg when you said "pgp"?
[22:48] <kunji> !details | DeadWeasel
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> yes
[22:48] <ikonia> ClientAlive: why do you want to get rid of it
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> jrib yes
[22:48] <ClientAlive> ikonia: That's really all I need to do (I use okular and I'm tired of fighting with ubu about default applications)
[22:48] <ikonia> ClientAlive: remove it then
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> jrib i'm afraid I failed to get my private key
[22:48] <ClientAlive> ikonia: but ubuntu-desktop. will I lose features if ubuntu-desktop goes?
[22:49] <DeadWeasel> jrib any idea what it might be called?
[22:49] <jrib> DeadWeasel: I don't know what the gui program expects but I believe your secret key is saved to ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg
[22:49] <ClientAlive> ikonia: if I reinstall ubuntu-desktop will it bring evince back in with it?
[22:49] <ikonia> ClientAlive: correct
[22:50] <ClientAlive> ikonia: to which of the 2 questions?
[22:50] <ClientAlive> ikonia: both?
[22:50] <DeadWeasel> jrib, good, I have that.  but "Passwords and Keys" in 12.04 LTS desktop doesn't see it when I navigate to the folder.
[22:50] <ikonia> ClientAlive: if you re-install ubuntu-desktop it will re-install evince
[22:50] <guideX> is there a way I can ssh into the ubuntu box I have? it won't connect for some reason
[22:50] <guideX> I have no firewall or anything
[22:50] <k1l_> guideX: ssh server running?
[22:50] <jhutchins_wk> scott_puopolo: What are you actually trying to do?
[22:50] <guideX> I do not know, how do I check
[22:50] <jrib> DeadWeasel: I don't know what that program expects
[22:51] <ClientAlive> ikonia: ok. so what does ubuntu-desktop bring in? What do I lose if I take that off the system?
[22:51] <DeadWeasel> it picks up  .key and .asc  mebbe i need to convert somehow?  jrib
[22:51] <cxlxkin> hello everybody
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, nothing!
[22:51] <genii-around> guideX: If you try telnetting to port 22 it should say something.
[22:52] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: err... yeah, bs
[22:52] <DeadWeasel> !details | DeadWeasel
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> guideX: Did you install the ssh server?
[22:52] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: sorry, but I call bs
[22:52] <ClientAlive> I'll look it up
[22:52] <jrib> DeadWeasel: what does help → about say for the name of that  program?  I'll try to open it here
[22:52] <ClientAlive> thx
[22:52] <guideX> I did not ddo anythign extra to get ssh running, I do not know how
[22:52] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk:  i have a wireless chipset that used to work until i upgraded to 12.04; i read in ubuntuforums how to use b43legacy under fwcutter; this works, but i need to make it permanent.
[22:52] <jrib> !ssh | guideX
[22:52] <guideX> it's just so painfully slow, i'm looking for an alternate way to get to it
[22:52] <tekk> right… i've just created an ubuntu-spin-off from one of the core i7 mac mini's as an ISO and using ubiquity install
[22:52] <tekk> works nicely :)
[22:53] <tekk> installing on the i5 now… i'll host it somewhere for everyone else
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, good luck with the Google-fu, it'll confirm what I said. You don't lose a thing. :)
[22:53] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk: 12.04 was using 'wl' as default for my wireless chipset but it didn't work, my attempt to use b43legacy was being 'blocked' by 'wl'
[22:54] <raven_> how to close cvlc on 404 error?
[22:54] <guideX> so no way to get ssh on it or
[22:54] <scott_puopolo> jhutchins_wk: so i'm trying to learn how to blacklist 'wl', enable 'b43legacy', and make these changes permanent (which files do i alter)
[22:54] <jrib> guideX: did you read the guide that ubottu sent you?  It tells you how to enable ssh access
[22:55] <guideX> lokl this guide is huge
[22:56] <scott_puopolo> i can do it manually at each startup but i'm trying to make the change take affect permanently (will help me to understand process also)
[22:56] <guideX> why must everything be so complex :(
[22:56] <genii-around> scott_puopolo: I believe I explained if you put wl in /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf  and put b43legacy in /etc/modules that this should work, without having to know about how udev is working underneath
[22:56] <guideX> every time I need to do something there's another 10 page guide to read
[22:57] <jrib> scott_puopolo: please realize that unless you are having a conversation with someone (by prefixing what you say with their nick) that you should assume we have a 0-line memory
[22:57] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: Hey, if that's true then FANTASIK! I love it. But it really doesn't make logical sense. Why would they make it for nothing? Anyhow, I'm trying seeing what I can find and if you can confirm it would be appreciated. You deff. get an apology if you can prove me wrong.
[22:58] <scott_puopolo> genii-around:  thank you so much for this; i think i was using a file called modprobe-b43legacy.conf but it didn't seem to work, i will try your suggestion!
[22:58] <jrib> guideX: what page are you reading exactly?
[22:58] <guideX> configuring
[22:58] <guideX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[22:59] <jrib> guideX: why don't you start with the install instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive, I was talking in terms of "it doesn't remove any packages that might already exist on the system." :)
[23:01] <scott_puopolo> jrib, genii-around, jhutchins_wk:  thank you all for your help!
[23:02] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: ok. But perhaps it provides some functionality that I might not like to lose. So I'm seeing some component of it called ubuntu-recommends -> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-meta_1.267/changelog <- where it appears it's being used to group applications they want to come with a default install (tying things togeter). I'm wondering if that is a file which can be edited to disconnect
[23:02] <ClientAlive> ubuntu-desktop from particular application then can remove the app without effecting ubuntu-desktop.
[23:02] <jroo> i just installed last night linux lite and i noticed that my internet is much slower than ubuntu is there a way to speed it up
[23:02] <jrib> jroo: this channel is for ubuntu support, not sure what linux lite is
[23:02] <jroo> ok
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ClientAlive: That it won't. If it sees a metapackage dependency disappears, there goes ubuntu-desktop, but you don't lose anything else other than the app. That's because ubuntu-desktop is a METAPACKAGE.
[23:05] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: cool. by chance do you have some link I can understand what a meta package is? I know what meta data is (conceptually) but not sure how it is applied in a real system. I'm intersted.  :)
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> A metapackage is just a symbolic link to other packages (kind of like incorporations in Solaris)
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> And yes, don't hate on me for having used Solaris/OpenIndiana before. :)
[23:06] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: oh, nevermind. I found something -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[23:06] <ClientAlive> thank you sir
[23:07] <bel3atar> widad-charai: choufi ch7al ta3 lbachar lay7fed
[23:08] <bel3atar> everybody welcome widad-charai
[23:08] <ClientAlive> SonikkuAmerica: So what is this guy doing when he says "Removed rarian-compat from desktop": http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-meta_1.267/changelog
[23:08] <ClientAlive> As in "removed from..."
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> That just means they dropped the rarian libraries from being a dependency for that package.
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> It's needed for other stuff, so if you happen to install said other stuff, the rarian libraries (librarian) will be installed with other stuff.
[23:10] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses.
[23:10] <widad-charai> the photo is here [23:12] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses. the photo is here [23:12] <DeadWeasel> ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop:   when I move something to ~/.gnupg/   how does it know where to look?
[23:12] <widad-charai> need help plz i have a problem with my ubuntu. i'll join a photo. and in my empathy, it refuses to launch "My acount" i want to add an account but it refuses.  plz responce in private.
[23:13] <larst> Hi all
[23:17] <bel3atar> widad-charai: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1067901
[23:18] <bel3atar> widad-charai: try installing gnome-control-center-signon
[23:19] <randypopabawa> Hey. Anyone had luck installing Ubuntu on a laptop preloaded with Windows H8?
[23:19] <bel3atar> widad-charai: u there?
[23:20] <widad-charai> yes i'm here but someone help me
[23:20] <randypopabawa> I've tried disabling Secure Boot and switching to CSM, Legacy, all of them.
[23:20] <randypopabawa> No luck
[23:20] <widad-charai> wait
[23:20] <bel3atar> widad-charai: try installing gnome-control-center-signon
[23:20] <randypopabawa> It just hangs at the Ubuntu loading screen
[23:20] <bel3atar> widad-charai: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center-signon
[23:21] <skp1> where are fonts located?
[23:21] <bel3atar> skp1: /usr
[23:22] <genii-around> skp1: Also ~/.fonts
[23:24] <francesca> Hi, new here! I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 mini.iso (non-PAE) and have been asked  “Wireless ESSID and eth1”. How do I find these informations?
[23:26] <randypopabawa> anybody?
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> randypopabawa: What?
[23:28] <Shaan> hey guys what would the command be to create a file and write a text basicly i want to create a file.txt and write
[23:28] <Shaan> "perlworld" in it
[23:28] <jrib> Shaan: echo perlworld > file.txt     (WARNING: if file.txt exists in the current directory already, it will be destroyed)
[23:28] <Shaan> okay cool thanks jrib :)
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Echo? Not cat?
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> No, wait: cat is concatenate
[23:29] <francesca> nick idefix
[23:30] <randypopabawa> Secure Boot help
[23:30] <randypopabawa> Trying to install Ubuntu on a system that came with 8
[23:31] <mandoguit> idefix:   I see you made it OK  :)
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> randypopabawa, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:33] <ForSpareParts> Anyone know how to get a "slide-in" animation for Guake in 12.10? The compiz plugins that used to do it have been phased out.
[23:35] <roasted> I'm having a brain fart. I remember someone telling me about an rsync command that continually runs all of the time, thereby making the source and destination operate in a mirrored fashion. I thought it was async or something like that, but I can't remember. Anybody know what I'm referring to offhand?
[23:38] <kiwi37021> .
[23:39] <Muelli> hm. dunno roasted. but it probably uses inotify then. Maybe that'll help you find your thing.
[23:40] <Shaan> jrib: lets say i wanted to go to the next line and write another word there too then?
[23:40] <jrib> Shaan: you can append to a file with: echo foobar >> file
[23:41] <Shaan> oh perfect thank you
[23:42] <pewter_tao> did ubuntu just change a bunch of stuff from /usr/local/bin to /usr/bin?
[23:43] <jrib> pewter_tao: no.  Apt should never be touching /usr/local/bin
[23:44] <pewter_tao> tnx :)
[23:45] <roasted> Is there a way to run rsync as a daemon so it'll continually sync source to destination 247?
[23:47] <JPeterson> how do i apply the change after editing /var/spool/cron/crontabs/user manually? (not through crontab -e)
[23:49] <gustav_> JPeterson: sudo service crontab restart
[23:49] <gustav_> JPeterson: Edit with crontab -e. Not manually.
[23:49] <JPeterson> doesnt make a difference
[23:49] <gustav_> What difference? You are doing things without defined behaviour.
[23:50] <JPeterson> so your point is ignorance is bliss?
[23:51] <JPeterson> link me to your stack exchange account
[23:52] <JPeterson> gustav_:
[23:52] <phunyguy> one would think that crontab -e is easier...
[23:52] <phunyguy> why not use it?
[23:53] <JPeterson> gustav_ link me to your stack exchange account because i'm now curious about the insight present in your messages there regarding your opinion about knowing how things work
[23:53] <phunyguy> unless you are editing for a different user?
[23:53] <gustav_> JPeterson: If you want to know how crontab works I suggest you look at the source.
[23:53] <JPeterson> good point, didnt think of that
[23:53] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[23:53] <JPeterson> gustav_: the link
[23:53] <fxhp> Anyone have a decent partman recipe for small device (20G) vms
[23:53] <JPeterson> to your stack exchange account
[23:53] <fxhp> ?
[23:54] <xiaclo> I have a really strange issue with logrotate, for some reason /var/lib/logrotate.status is showing a file as rotated even though it isn't.  Running logrotate manually obviously says it doesn't need rotating, and logrotate -f works as expected.  Any ideas what could be causing it to not rotate or falsely update the status?
[23:55] <JPeterson> gustav_: the link
[23:55] <JPeterson> gustav_: whats your top three reupations on stack exchange?
[23:55] <JPeterson> by site
[23:55] <phunyguy> JPeterson, this probably isn't the place for that
[23:55] <JPeterson> it is now because gustav has spoken
[23:55] <phunyguy> no it isn't.
[23:56] <JPeterson> if speaking its reasonable that there exist a way to determine of knowledge exist
[23:56] <capoderra> question: if the graphics isn't recognized while using a live USB, does that mean it won't work when I install Ubuntu?
[23:56] <k1l_> JPeterson: stop that.
[23:56] <phunyguy> capoderra, depends on the hardware
[23:57] <capoderra> Nvidia GeForce m... i think 330
[23:57] <JPeterson> it's uncalled for to ask for the http://askubuntu.com/ rating for a person that gives a retarded answer?
[23:57] <phunyguy> are you in LiveUSB now?
[23:57] <phunyguy> capoderra, ^^^
[23:57] <capoderra> yes
[23:57] <phunyguy> capoderra, 12.10?
[23:57] <JPeterson> it seems like that opinion would demand a reasoned discussion
[23:57] <k1l_> JPeterson: yes it is. last time now: drop that and stick to the issue or leave the channel
[23:57] <Eth0Z> heya
[23:57] <capoderra> 12.10
[23:57] <phunyguy> JPeterson, it may, but this isn't the place for the discussion.
[23:58] <phunyguy> capoderra, go into software sources via the dash
[23:58] <capoderra> done
[23:58] <phunyguy> then additional drivers tab
[23:58] <phunyguy> see if anything comes up for graphics.
[23:59] <capoderra> Hmm? what additional drives tab?
[23:59] <phunyguy> installation probably wont be possible, but it may tell you that one is available, and if so, you would have working graphics after an install of the OS, then an install of the restricted drivers