| knome | what do you all think of adding super+V as s shortcut for pavucontrol (v as volume) | 11:44 |
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| bluesabre | How often does that need to be opened? | 11:50 |
| knome | since pulseaudio makes it possible, one might want to mute a single application | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | ah, true | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | it would be cool if they added individual volume controls to the sound indicator or something | 11:53 |
| knome | or change the levels per speaker | 11:53 |
| knome | or possibly access recording stuff | 11:53 |
| davmor2 | knome: do you not have a sound indicator which has a sound settings? Personally I would link super+v to a video player/mm player that you use v for video kinda thing | 11:53 |
| bluesabre | But, we do have the sound indicator only two clicks away | 11:53 |
| knome | davmor2, nope | 11:54 |
| knome | is there an exo-open for mediaplayer? | 11:54 |
| knome | or exo wrapper or whatever that's called :) | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | nope | 11:56 |
| bluesabre | unless you're using it to launch a file | 11:56 |
| bluesabre | WebBrowser, MailReader, TerminalEmulator, FileManager are the exo-open applications | 11:56 |
| pjotr_ | Hello, I have a feature request for Xubuntu. | 14:20 |
| pjotr_ | Currently, Xubuntu is being identified as Ubuntu, in the Grub menu. Which may cause confusion on a multiple boot system. Can this be changed in Xubuntu 13.04, so that Grub calls Xubuntu by it's proper name, in the Grub menu? | 14:21 |
| pjotr_ | mr_pouit: maybe you know the answer? | 14:24 |
| pjotr_ | I've filed a bug report for this, against xubuntu-default-settings: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1115271 | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1115271 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu is being called Ubuntu in the Grub menu" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| pjotr_ | It's a small bug of course, but even papercuts are worth repairing.... It helps making Xubuntu even better. :-) | 14:32 |
| micahg | hrm, I have to try adjusting the precise ISO sizes aga | 16:44 |
| micahg | *again | 16:44 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: ah, we should discuss about that for raring at some point (we bump the limit or just end up with only en_US and no app on amd64 ;-) | 19:55 |
| micahg | precise is the big problem ATM, raring I think I can fix | 19:57 |
| knome | micahg, mr_pouit: i think bumping the ISO size for R+ is fine, but i'd like to keep precise CD sized | 20:01 |
| knome | micahg, mr_pouit: or opt-out of more point releases for P if there's no way to keep it CD sized | 20:02 |
| micahg | if we didn't inherit the backport kernel stuff in precise, we'd be fine | 20:02 |
| knome | right | 20:02 |
| knome | how much is that? | 20:02 |
| knome | i think we might have opted-out of that too | 20:02 |
| micahg | no, we got it | 20:03 |
| knome | yes, but i think somebody asked me if we want it... | 20:03 |
| micahg | I did | 20:03 |
| micahg | I didn't do anything about it yet | 20:03 |
| knome | right :) | 20:03 |
| knome | no problem | 20:03 |
| knome | actually i don't think it's too bad if it looks like we can't keep CD size | 20:03 |
| knome | we already have a release that's CD sized, people can use that an upgrade in the worst case scenario | 20:04 |
| knome | we should formally decide to move to a 1GB USB ISO on the next meeting, if that's what the majority of the team wants | 20:04 |
| ochosi | +1 | 20:05 |
| knome | i think it's more realistic to have that as a goal for 14.04 | 20:05 |
| micahg | well, I think we should keep the default install useful, but minimal | 20:06 |
| knome | yes | 20:06 |
| knome | if ubuntu keeps adding stuff that makes us lose most of the applications, that's not good | 20:07 |
| micahg | actually, we could create a xubuntu-full or xubuntu-minimal seed | 20:07 |
| knome | ...and ship several ISO's ? | 20:07 |
| micahg | depending on how we want the ISO | 20:07 |
| ochosi | micahg: wouldn that be lots of work? | 20:07 |
| ochosi | 't | 20:07 |
| micahg | no, just a metapackage in the archive for experience | 20:07 |
| ochosi | oh | 20:07 |
| ochosi | i thought 2 iso-sizes | 20:07 |
| knome | i'm all for -minimal and -full if somebody is willing to work on it | 20:07 |
| knome | well i thought 2 iso-sizes as well | 20:07 |
| ochosi | yeah, we discussed minimal and full before | 20:08 |
| knome | -desktop == -full | 20:08 |
| knome | imo | 20:08 |
| micahg | nah, the desktop seed will be a subset or superset of the new one | 20:08 |
| knome | aha | 20:08 |
| ochosi | question is whether it isn't less work to publish instructions on how to make xubuntu-minimal from ubuntu-server isos than actually pushing those isos | 20:08 |
| knome | micahg, theoretically, how much work would two iso sizes be (if not counting the testing load) | 20:08 |
| micahg | ochosi: well, there's always the netboot ISO, that should be used instead of server | 20:09 |
| micahg | knome: twice the testing, not much else | 20:09 |
| knome | right | 20:09 |
| knome | if we get our testing working, that might be possible then | 20:09 |
| knome | not sure if we want to do that, but good to know | 20:09 |
| micahg | to add a meta package to the archive is easy enough | 20:10 |
| knome | to maintain... :) | 20:12 |
| knome | but yeah, that's what i thought | 20:12 |
| micahg | nah, each file will be listed in one place | 20:13 |
| micahg | s/file/package/ | 20:13 |
| ochosi | micahg: have you dealt with package-sets like edubuntu used to have them (or still has them) yet, so that users can choose in ubiquity whether they want to install -desktop or only -minimal? | 20:14 |
| micahg | nah, maybe xnox can help with that | 20:15 |
| micahg | I thought that required ubiquity hacking | 20:15 |
| micahg | that also would require us to use the larger ISO size | 20:15 |
| ochosi | why that? | 20:16 |
| micahg | in edubuntu's case, I believe the squashfs's coexist on the image | 20:16 |
| knome | i believe that's the case | 20:16 |
| ochosi | hmm | 20:16 |
| ochosi | then that's not really helpful for our case | 20:17 |
| knome | we want to discuss with stgraber if we want something like that | 20:19 |
| ochosi | yeah, but if it doesn't help the iso-size issue, i'd rather postpone it | 20:20 |
| knome | sure | 20:20 |
| knome | probably doesn't | 20:20 |
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