[04:31] <rodayo> I know that when the ubuntu phone image comes out it'll be very tailored to the galaxy nexus. But I'm guessing I can just go and buy a nexus from my provider and expect to get ubuntu on it with a few button presses. So what exactly would I need to do to the phone to put ubuntu on it? E.g. does the phone need to unlocked?
[05:40] <sbward> Hey, I'm excited about Ubuntu phone and have a few questions about developing apps.
[05:41] <sbward> Will apps be able to run in desktop mode and mobile mode?  Will this require two interfaces to be coded, or possibly even two separate programs?
[06:06] <sbward> Found my answer elsewhere... hmm, dead channel right now :(
[07:39] <arinov> where can i buy phone and how much it costs?
[07:41] <sbward> arinov: the phone isn't on the market yet, you will have to wait :)
[07:41] <arinov> how much time?
[07:41] <arinov> to wait
[07:42] <sbward> i don't know, it's actually pretty early.... sorry
[07:42] <sbward> there will be some sort of open source demo for developers within a few weeks, but no official releases
[07:42] <arinov> and may i pay now and when it will be finished take one?
[07:43] <arinov> or how to buy experemental device for trying?
[07:43] <arinov> and...
[07:43] <arinov> i have HTC One X+
[07:43] <sbward> for one, the OS itself will be free.  canonical is still looking for manufacturers to market for-purchase devices with the OS installed i think.
[07:43] <arinov> maybe i can use mobile ubuntu on it
[07:44] <arinov> dell does not want to made phones on ubuntu?
[07:44] <sbward> eventually you may be able to install it to your HTC One X+, however the first demo was designed for a Samsung Galaxy Nexus only.... in the future many more phones will be supported better
[07:44] <sbward> i don't know about dell
[07:45] <arinov> SGN oriented OS... hmm
[07:45] <sbward> no, it's not SGN oriented.  they're just using it as a reference platform during this VERY early development phase.
[07:46] <arinov> nice
[07:47] <arinov> before linux i use unix (MAC) and i want migrate from iStuffs to free software \ open source
[07:47] <arinov> is there any mailing lists to stay informed when it will be finish
[07:47] <arinov> i mean Uphone
[07:48] <sbward> you can follow the latest news from their website, or from blogs like webupd8 or omgubuntu!
[07:48] <sbward> glad to hear you're coming to FOSS :)
[07:49] <arinov> at home i completely on free\opensource
[07:49] <arinov> early i wanted openmoko
[07:49] <arinov> but project closed
[07:50] <arinov> and ubuntu devices i see very good point
[07:50] <arinov> to use every day
[07:50] <arinov> anyway thanks for answers
[07:50] <arinov> can i stay here to read others?
[07:51] <sbward> of course you can stay!  stay for as long as you want
[07:51] <arinov> ok
[07:51] <sbward> most the people here aren't even at their computers, lol.  they stay here indefinitely.
[07:52] <arinov> it is normal with IRC
[07:52] <sbward> yes indeed.
[07:52] <arinov> different time at all countries and job and wifes and children
[07:52] <sbward> i've been idling in like 30 channels for weeks, lol
[07:53] <sbward> i suppose so
[07:53] <arinov> and 50 causes why it happened
[07:53] <arinov> (c)
[07:55] <arinov> what you think about prise?
[07:55] <arinov> how much cost it will be?
[07:55] <arinov> 1k$?
[07:55] <arinov> 2k$?
[07:55] <sbward> the ubuntu OS will be free
[07:55] <arinov> price
[07:55] <arinov> i mean ubuntu phone
[07:56] <sbward> its up to manufacturers to decide how much they sell phones with ubuntu for, but i think 1k - 2k is too high.  it will probably be much cheaper.
[07:56] <arinov> with ubuntu and support program
[07:57] <arinov> щл
[07:57] <arinov> ok
[14:02] <doomlord>  is it going to be possible to write custom phone UI's like people write alternate window-managers for desktop linux
[14:11] <Andy80> doomlord, using pure QML to build your widget? sure
[14:12] <doomlord> what i also have in mind is the whole look and feel of the phone UI
[14:13] <doomlord> eg if someone in the community wanted to make an exact iphone workalike... or make "expo" on the phone.. etc
[14:13] <doomlord> well thats the original question actually
[14:14] <doomlord> i dont mean phone UI for an app - i mean the whole experience - e.g. in linux I can grab source to an alternate window manager and change .. if i want tiled/tabbed windowing or whatever
[14:15] <doomlord> maybe thats more a thing for ubuntu on the nexus 7
[14:18] <M4rtinK> this is actually a good question
[14:19] <M4rtinK> in most current mobile OSes this is not possible
[14:19] <M4rtinK> so if you don't like how the toplevel OS GUI works - bad luck
[14:20] <M4rtinK> an improvement to this unfortunate situation would be welcome :)
[14:24] <doomlord> i imagine when it comes to screen edges there will be many opinions ... linux solution is anyone can satisfy thhemselves with a fork
[14:24] <doomlord> like with unity vs gnome :)
[14:24] <doomlord> (personally i like unity)
[14:25] <doomlord> as it stands though i'll have way more reasons to use abuntu phone
[14:26] <doomlord> ^to use ubuntu phone rather than not
[17:01] <MostHated> man, wtf an early release or leaked iso or something : (
[22:12] <swehes> hello ppl
[22:13] <swehes> what's the good news?
[22:29] <disharmonic> swehes, there are news?