| chris_ | Anyone any luck with nvidia cards in 13.04 | 01:47 |
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| sirriffsalot_ | What's the difference between the LTS releases and the ones between? | 02:04 |
| sirriffsalot_ | In this case 12.04 and 12.10? | 02:04 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: lots of package versions | 03:05 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: 12.04 is supported (officially by canonnical) for 5 years... 12.10, for 18 months | 03:05 |
| holstein | i believe XFCE had a decent rev going to 12.10 | 03:06 |
| holstein | what am i using? 12.04. and i likely will til the next LTS (on my production machine( | 03:06 |
| holstein | is there any reason *not* to run 12.10? no | 03:06 |
| holstein | i have used/installed/tested 12.10, and its great | 03:07 |
| sirriffsalot_ | holstein: yeah but does the regular updates differ at all from those "lots of package versions" you mentioned? What would be the point of going to 12.10? | 03:11 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: ? | 03:11 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: im not sure i understand | 03:11 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Nvm hehe | 03:11 |
| holstein | think of 12.04 as "frozen" | 03:11 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Aha | 03:12 |
| holstein | it gets updates.. to those versions | 03:12 |
| holstein | for example.. the kernel | 03:12 |
| holstein | you will stay on basically the same kernel version, with security updates with 12.04.. and 12.10 for that matter | 03:12 |
| holstein | the opposite of a "rolling release" | 03:13 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Uhm.. I've got a laptop with raid.. For some reason I can't boot a livecd anymore, it always gets stuck at saying /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 | 03:13 |
| sirriffsalot_ | holstein: got it :) | 03:13 |
| holstein | if you want the "latest and greatest".. you need to upgrade to the latest versions | 03:13 |
| holstein | though, ubuntu is never really considered "bleeding edge" | 03:13 |
| sirriffsalot_ | holstein: latest is usually malfunctional.. | 03:13 |
| holstein | you can all ppa's though | 03:13 |
| holstein | !ppa | 03:13 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 03:13 |
| holstein | you can add* | 03:13 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Yeah :) | 03:13 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: the lastes is tested | 03:13 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: all are tested | 03:13 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: if you experience "malfuntion" that is not due to configuration, its likely due to hardware support | 03:14 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: could be that your raid controller drivers are dropped in the latest kernel | 03:16 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: could be the lowlatency kernel is not supporting your raid controller | 03:16 |
| sirriffsalot_ | holstein: how would I go about resetting this? cause I can't get to the raid configuration any longer.. just goes straight into grub now | 03:17 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Does not allow me to ented raid setup | 03:17 |
| holstein | i dont know anything aoubt your configuration, or what RAID you have, or want, or want to "reset", but i would just use a live CD that works and do what needs to be done | 03:18 |
| sirriffsalot_ | From the one hard-disk that works of the two (I planned to install testing distros on the other hdd) I can boot into, the other I now deleted and made unallocated with gparted.. Now the live image only displays /dev/sda1, and not sdb1 anymore, but still freezes | 03:24 |
| holstein | depends on how your raid is/was setup... | 03:25 |
| holstein | i dont use raid | 03:25 |
| sirriffsalot_ | It wasn't setup, that's the point | 03:26 |
| * holstein shrugs | 03:26 | |
| holstein | if it wasnt/isnt setup, then just redo it | 03:26 |
| sirriffsalot_ | But now for some reason I can't get into the raid setup which by default now that I attempted install onther hard disk, which failed :P | 03:26 |
| holstein | if its a software raid, you'll have to set that up again | 03:26 |
| holstein | if its hardware, then, it should just show up.. but you'll need to know how it is setup | 03:27 |
| holstein | what would i do? disable the raid.. install.. use.. enjoy | 03:27 |
| sirriffsalot_ | It was disabled.. I'll get a slax image up and see if I can boot live with that | 03:27 |
| holstein | was? or is? | 03:28 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Was | 03:28 |
| holstein | if its disabled, then just ignore it.. if its enabled, then you'll need to set it up | 03:28 |
| holstein | if its not setup , then i think that is the point.. | 03:28 |
| sirriffsalot_ | I attempted to install ubuntu studio on one hard disk and now bodhi on the other | 03:30 |
| sirriffsalot_ | I'll try slax and get back to you | 03:30 |
| holstein | cool.. enjoy!.. bodhi is nice | 03:31 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Well let's see if I can make it happen.. :) | 03:32 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Yeah, getting a bit bored with ubuntu studio thb.. no offence | 03:32 |
| sirriffsalot_ | tbh* | 03:34 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Also it seems that ubuntu studio + my computer makes for insane gui latency in A3.. Gonna try other ones to see if it is in fact a distribution problem of some kind, because it's starting to look like it | 03:35 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Hellyea, slax works | 03:48 |
| holstein | well, A3 is A3 | 03:54 |
| holstein | i would look into the kernels and graphics drivers | 03:54 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: yeah, ubuntustudio is a community project, so it really is a boring as you let it be | 03:55 |
| holstein | not you personally, of course, but us... the community | 03:56 |
| sirriffsalot_ | holstein: I've done that mate.. everything | 03:56 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Except what works obviously | 03:56 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: im not saying "in ubuntu" | 03:56 |
| holstein | what im saying is, if you experience a lag in A3, you might want to try live CD's and see if a *totally* different graphics driver renders a different experience | 03:57 |
| holstein | *or*, wait til its not beta | 03:57 |
| holstein | i ran A3 from the avlinux live CD... looked OK | 03:58 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Yeah, trying the same, livecd:P | 03:58 |
| sirriffsalot_ | Avlinux had just the same issue | 03:58 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: what im proposing is.. A3 has the same "issue" | 03:58 |
| holstein | the biggest being, its not out yet | 03:58 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: also, its interesting to note that A3 was ok for me.. pointing at something with A3 and your particular graphics hardware under linux | 04:04 |
| sirriffsalot_ | nvidia does the trick ;) | 04:04 |
| holstein | the biggest difference in AVlinux and ubuntustudio now is just going to be the package versions... and some of the config that AVdoes | 04:04 |
| holstein | sirriffsalot_: well, when you've shopped around, and end up landing on some OS, maybe its ubuntu, maybe not.. keep in mind, A3 is the same everywhere | 04:05 |
| zequence | holstein: Whatever works with -generic will always work with -lowlatency (re: raid stuff) | 13:36 |
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| famax8 | hi? | 22:10 |
| famax8 | anyone here? | 22:10 |
| holstein | !ask | 22:12 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 22:12 |
| holstein | famax8: ^^ | 22:12 |
| famax8 | holstein: hey mate how are you? | 22:15 |
| holstein | famax8: not bad, and you? | 22:20 |
| famax8 | holstein: well i got USt 12.10 crashing with internet is that a known issue? firefox or chrome same problem - chrome i was trying to upload ans firefox nothing special just browsing - never got through the sites just google and it crashes causing blackscreen and forced reboot - the rest works fine ardour still a bit annoying but i did record and i am sorting out remastering | 22:20 |
| famax8 | holstein: im good thanks - hows sunny west coast tho? getting any snow?? ^^ | 22:21 |
| holstein | nah | 22:22 |
| holstein | i use it sometimes in 12.04, and it tested fine in 12.10 | 22:23 |
| holstein | what uploader? some flash uploader? | 22:23 |
| famax8 | eh.. no the one that is in the browser | 22:23 |
| famax8 | nothing added | 22:24 |
| holstein | famax8: you mean, downloader? | 22:24 |
| holstein | famax8: what im asking is, what uploader? some flash applet? | 22:24 |
| holstein | flash is still shaky sometimes, though i never get a black screen | 22:24 |
| holstein | !tty | 22:24 |
| ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | 22:24 |
| famax8 | but the other time it happened it was only browsing not even uploading - only comon point, it happened when i right click and click "open in a new tab" | 22:24 |
| holstein | i would see if you can get to tty next time | 22:24 |
| holstein | look for and apply upgrades | 22:25 |
| holstein | see if you can replicate it with a live session | 22:25 |
| holstein | make a new user and test | 22:25 |
| famax8 | tty? | 22:25 |
| holstein | !tty | 22:26 |
| holstein | that'll get you to a terminal | 22:26 |
| holstein | you can sudo shutdown -h or sudo rebbot | 22:26 |
| holstein | reboot* | 22:26 |
| holstein | this will tell you if x has crashed, or if the system is locked up or what | 22:27 |
| famax8 | holstein: when is black screen? | 22:27 |
| holstein | famax8: you said "it crashes and causes blackscreen" | 22:27 |
| holstein | famax8: i dont get black screens | 22:27 |
| holstein | famax8: if i do, i first try tty | 22:28 |
| famax8 | hols | 22:28 |
| famax8 | holstein: black screen as screen goes all black and i can not do anything i need to physically press the button on the pc to turn it off | 22:28 |
| holstein | famax8: sure.. but you havent tried tty | 22:28 |
| holstein | famax8: when the screen goes black, i try tty | 22:29 |
| famax8 | not at all shall i do it now or when i get that blackscreen? | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: then, i know if its actually locked up and all i can do is hold the powerbutton down | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: ? | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: do what? | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: tty? | 22:29 |
| famax8 | ok so ctrl=alt=f1-6 | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: i suggest trying tty when you think the machine is locked up | 22:29 |
| famax8 | when screen is black | 22:29 |
| famax8 | ok yes thank you :) | 22:29 |
| holstein | famax8: you are assuming that all you can do is hold the powerbutton | 22:29 |
| famax8 | let me try ot crash it again | 22:29 |
| famax8 | because i tried ctrl=alt=del or enter or space only | 22:30 |
| famax8 | argh | 23:24 |
| famax8 | not crashing anymore | 23:24 |
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