[09:47] <xnox> ochosi: micahg: package-sets / tasksel is in the d-i. The maximum "optional" features that ubiquity can install is drivers/3rd party software, language-packs, -updates during install.
[09:47] <xnox> the rest is indeed manual ubiquity hacking.
[09:49] <ochosi> xnox: ah, thanks, good to know
[19:57] <len-1304> bluesabre, Catfish (in 13.04) works very nicely. When will it make it to the main repos?
[19:57] <knome> most probably before release
[19:57] <len-1304> knome, I just don't want to add it to our seeds and have another bug reported :)
[20:00] <bluesabre> len-1304, Ideally after there's been some additional time for testing on it since its a new rewrite (and I expect regressions somewhere) :)
[20:00] <knome> bluesabre, that reminds me to remind you to fix the testcases
[20:01] <bluesabre> knome, oh yeah
[20:01] <bluesabre> whats the link to that again :)
[20:01] <micahg> feature freeze is a month away
[20:01] <knome> bluesabre, the sandbox is at http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/
[20:02] <knome> micahg, that should be plenty enough of time
[20:03] <bluesabre> I might do the new release next week some time.  While I'm waiting for bug reports on that, I'll finish up the menu-enhanced menulibre
[20:04] <bluesabre> also, glad to hear its working well in raring now
[20:05] <knome> micahg, we should look at team delegation and related stuff at some point, to be able to have "xubuntu-developers"
[20:06] <len-1304> bluesabre, it is much faster than the gnome search in nautilus was.... before they removed it.
[20:06] <micahg> knome: you mean upload rights>
[20:06] <bluesabre> excellent :D
[20:06] <len-1304> As soon as you release we will add it to our seeds.
[20:07] <bluesabre> len-1304, sounds great!
[20:07] <knome> micahg, yes, that
[20:08] <knome> micahg, and to be able to approve new members ourself
[20:08] <micahg> knome: if you have someone interested, the DMB can grant it, I'm not in favor of xubuntu dev delegation right now, maybe if there were more members
[20:08] <knome> micahg, i can't remember the whole discussion, but iirc, ScottK definitely thought we should have that, even if we didn't have a big team
[20:10] <micahg> knome: I think it's important, I just don't think we're there yet, we have 2 devs ATM AIUI, doesn't make for much of a policy
[20:11] <micahg> by all means though, if there's someone that's interested, we should train them and work on getting them upload rights
[20:11] <knome> and we have bluesabre, who should be a developer with uploading rights soon or later
[20:11] <knome> sooner*
[20:11] <knome> well that ^
[20:11] <knome> that's even in our blueprints for this cycle.
[20:12] <Unit193> I'm learning a little packaging if that counts, sill a ways to go.
[20:13] <knome> i've built a package once as well if that counts :P
[20:13] <micahg> knome: he's never had a sponsored upload into the archive, it would be quite a while before we can grant him rights
[20:13] <knome> but no, i don't want to have upload rights
[20:13] <knome> micahg, let's get started. he has things he should upload
[20:13] <knome> micahg, this is a long-term goal that i'd like to achieve before 14.04
[20:14] <pleia2> knome: yours defintely don't count
[20:14] <micahg> knome: that's achievable
[20:14] <knome> pleia2, haha! it worked!
[20:14] <knome> micahg, great :)
[20:14] <pleia2> :)
[20:14] <knome> wait, we have a meeting on thursday? huhu
[20:14] <knome> :)
[20:15] <knome> again not sure how my participation works
[20:15] <pleia2> oh right, I should put that on the calendar
[20:15] <pleia2> tha
[20:15] <pleia2> r
[20:16] <knome> tar? :P
[20:16] <pleia2> there!
[20:18] <knome> oh!
[20:18] <knome> i need to talk to you about a thing
[20:18] <knome> will PM
[22:08] <knome> sent a mail to everybody in the xubuntu team, please read/react asap :)
[22:16] <GridCube> knome, times in doodle are utc?
[22:16] <knome> doesn't it say so?
[22:17] <GridCube> oh... yes, sorry :)
[22:17] <knome> good
[22:21] <knome> GridCube, mr_pouit: cheers
[22:21] <GridCube> ;)
[22:46] <micahg> 21:00 seems to be the winner
[22:46]  * micahg disappears
[22:47] <knome> hehe, hf
[23:29] <maddernick> iso sizes mmhmm
[23:29] <maddernick> i dont think that many people even have cd-burners anymore