[03:31] Hi. I'd like to vote to have Unity not send search data to Amazon by default. [03:31] A number of my friends have been complaining about that being the default setting and are concerned about Ubuntu's direction because of it. [03:34] The addition of: [03:34] Amazon [03:34] and Commercial apps in the Software Center [03:34] has caused concern amongst a lot of people regarding Ubuntu's direction [04:30] uh... [04:30] isn't that only for the shopping lens? [04:30] and I thought that was able to be disabled by hand? [12:38] gosh, voting has opened on that issue, I must have missed the memo [12:39] I vote we close the vote until am election has been announced. [12:50] welcome [12:50] PrincessLuna: hi [12:50] Hi [12:50] PrincessLuna: like you mentioned a banner on the home page would be IMHO a legal problem for Ubuntu/Canonical. [12:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 [12:51] Launchpad bug 1040557 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Fix committed] [12:51] IdleOne: Why? [12:51] AlanBell: I've seen that now [12:51] Samsung could turn around and say Ubuntu is damaging their reputation [12:51] I don't think it would be a legal problem really [12:51] nah, they did the damage themselves [12:52] right, but anyone looking to buy a Samsung laptop may google and land on the Ubuntu website and see "Samsung Sucks" paraphrasing of course [12:52] IdleOne: Not a banner saying "Samsung is bad, boycott Samsung" but rather a notice saying "do not install on Samsung XXX because of bug XXX that may brick the laptop" [12:52] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/22028.html [12:52] They added that info in the release notes which I think is sufficient if someone does a little research [12:53] PrincessLuna: unfortunately you got bit by the bug and found out to late :/ [12:53] I'm pretty sure people will be bricking laptops for years to come because 12.04 is an LTS [12:54] IdleOne: I knew that Ubuntu worked on other ultrabooks with identical specs so I thought it would be safe [12:54] if they do it'll be because they didn't do a little research [12:54] doesn't seem to be a hardware bug though [12:54] other machines with the exact same hardware may not have the same firmware [12:54] to be fair I would completely have fallen into that too and bricked my laptop [12:55] I never check the release notes either [12:56] gotta run out for milk :/ [13:00] I checked the release notes, I think I read that issue but it didn't strike me that it affected that laptop as I was about to install. Wasn't even thinking about it. [13:02] :( [13:02] I think if you send the laptop back they should replace it [13:05] The problem is that he purchased this computer overseas. No warranty on it where I live. [13:06] hmm [13:06] blog it and tweet about it and make a fuss [13:07] lol [13:07] samsung should do a recall for this [13:07] not particularly because it is brickable via installing ubuntu or fedora [13:08] but this means that it is brickable by any software that wants to poke at that bit of memory [13:08] they wont, same as with their phone bugs [13:08] PrincessLuna: seriously though, AlanBell is correct. [13:08] [15:06:47] blog it and tweet about it and make a fuss [13:13] jussi: Haha don't have time for that. I have two options 1) Refund him 2) Give him my thinkpad twist (which is still shipping) when it arrives and use my netbook a bit longer as main computer :(. [13:19] maybe contact a local samsung dealer and ask them what to do [13:19] but blogging it would really be a good idea [13:21] And how would blogging it help? [13:22] unhappy customers making a fuss == possible loss of profits. They would rather give you a free laptop and show the potential customers "what a nice" company they are [13:23] IdleOne: Only problem is that it isn't my laptop! [13:23] I guess you're out of options. [13:23] wait. [13:23] maybe contact a local samsung dealer and ask them what to do [13:25] if it is written up somewhere we can direct a ton of attention on it, from canonical and more importantly samsung [13:25] they really don't like negative publicity [13:26] PrincessLuna: doesn't matter that it isn't your laptop [13:26] in fact that makes it a more interesting story [13:26] you're the voice of the "oppressed " Speak loud so you can be heard! [13:27] or be herded [13:27] Ok got it booting Windows 7. Removed battery and Cmos battery then put them back and its working. That's a relief! [13:28] wasn't that problem at all then [13:28] Now I just have to give it back tomorrow. [13:28] when the samsungs are bricked they are dead [13:29] AlanBell: Really? I read this http://www.anandtech.com/show/6713/samsung-laptops-bricked-by-booting-linux-using-uefi and the last part encouraged me to try this [13:29] ooh, interesting [13:29] that would be a good thing to add to bug 1040557 then [13:29] bug 1040557 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI boot live-usb bricks SAMSUNG 530U3C,np700z5c laptop" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040557 [13:31] Anyway, problem solved. I'm not installing Ubuntu on this. [13:31] fedora too [13:32] hmm [13:32] or don't use uefi mode [13:32] Linux kernels with the samsung driver enabled in general. I'll tell him to use virtualbox if he wants [13:33] AlanBell: Not worth the risk, also if he rests bios/EFI settings to defaults it might re-brick [13:33] resets [13:33] true [13:37] Hopefully my ultrabook won't have these problems. But its a thinkpad so I think it should be safe.