[00:59] <mhall119> the news is apps
[03:48] <sirajperson> Howdy, is anyone here?
[03:52] <DaemonicApathy> Not really.
[03:55] <sirajperson> Has anybody here heard when it is being released?
[03:55] <sirajperson> Or better yet, does anyone have an image they would like to share?
[04:01] <DaemonicApathy> sirajperson: April.
[04:06] <sirajperson> so, any news on where to get a beta image? Torrent? Anything? シ
[04:07] <DaemonicApathy> No idea.
[22:18] <AlanBell> do we think October is accurate/realistic? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/02/06/217237/ubuntu-smartphone-shipping-in-october
[22:21] <ajalkane> AlanBell: I'd wager only canonical knows how far their system is... I don't think it's impossible.
[22:21] <AlanBell> ajalkane: well of course, but the october date is apparently a quote from an interview with sabdfl
[22:22] <ajalkane> The link you gave claims it's from mister Shuttleworth
[22:22] <AlanBell> !sabdfl
[22:22] <ajalkane> ah I see... he should know shouldn't he :P
[22:23] <AlanBell> you would think, but he isn't infalable :)
[22:23] <ajalkane> Judging by that comment he's confident the core of Ubuntu will be ready by that time, with the resources of Canonical
[22:24] <ajalkane> As we know, many of the "core" apps are done community. This implies that whatever is ready by the community by that time gets included, and rest will become available later as updates.
[22:25] <ajalkane> * don by
[22:25] <ajalkane> * done by
[22:25] <AlanBell> yeah, 13.10 seems optimistic for that
[22:25] <ajalkane> Well it all depends how rapidly the community gets stuff done.
[22:27] <ajalkane> In mobile space things move rapidly so I hope there is some urgency in getting things into usable shape, and refinements are done later. Basic prioritizing.
[22:27] <AlanBell> I hope things are done properly instead
[22:28] <ajalkane> These are two separate issues. You can do things properly but without everything including kitchen sink. And you can try to do everything including kitchen sink improperly.
[23:04] <AlanBell> wonder if it is two english speaking markets
[23:05] <AlanBell> or if the translations story is fully baked, I guess QML has translations built in at some level
[23:09] <ajalkane> Qt has it's own localization system
[23:09] <ajalkane> But Ubuntu uses the GNU gettext