[05:17] morning superfly and others [05:32] Good morning everyone [05:32] hi barrydk [05:34] Hoe gaan dit vanmore [05:37] goed dankie en self [05:37] waar kruip mazal weg barrydk ? [05:50] o/ more more [05:50] hi oom Kilos [05:50] lo nuvolari [05:50] hi jrgns [05:50] mornings barrydk, Tonberry, jrgns [06:07] morning Kilos, nuvolari, all [07:05] goeie more Kilos [07:05] and good morning everyone else [07:05] more inetpro 9mm [07:06] hmm... ek het vergeet om te kyk [07:06] baie donner bliksem [07:06] haha [07:06] maar daar was nie baie nie [07:07] nee baie is 50mm of meer [07:07] in my drome [07:07] ai [08:29] Hi kilos nee jong dit gaan bietjie rof hier met ons kry nie kans om bietjie rustig te raak en bietjie te gesels nie. [08:30] Morning nuvolari [10:02] Maaz, lunch today [10:02] Spinach, tomato and onion on toast [10:02] Maaz, toast [10:02] Oh well, there will be the same on bread for you toothless wonders [10:02] Maaz, coffee on [10:02] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [10:03] inetpro, coffeeeeeee [10:06] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [10:06] Maaz, ty [10:06] You are welcome Kilos [10:08] ai! [10:08] too late [10:08] Kilos: did you make lunch for us? [10:10] yeah [10:22] wat is die engelse woord vir bredie soos in boontjie bredie [10:34] i member something like breedy/bredie/bready but cant find a spelling for it [10:35] Isnt it a stew?? [11:01] not really its a mix of beens and potatoes or tomato and potatos etc [11:01] ill go nind an english/van der merwe word book [11:01] find [11:03] hmm says ragoutout stew [11:03] ragout [11:07] heh, anyone been watching the ITU mess? [11:07] and their attempts to destroy the freedom of the Internet? [11:45] Symmetria: no, what can you tell? [11:58] Kilos: bredie = stew [11:58] Kilos: did you enjoy your stew? [12:03] methunk stew gotta have meat in [12:05] Kilos: not necessarily [12:05] yeah man. stew without meat is weird [12:06] vegetable stew [12:06] eew [12:06] i spose you can use some oxo oxtail cubes for some meaty flavour [12:08] in german it's calle a "Eintopf" = one-pot-dish [12:08] called* [12:09] strange how something get's a different connotation in another language [12:13] Maaz: define stew [12:13] inetpro: Stew \Stew\, v. i. To be seethed or cooked in a slow, gentle manner, or in heat and moisture. [1913 Webster], Stew \Stew\, n. [OE. stue, stuwe, OF. estuve. See {Stew}, v. t.] 1. A place of stewing or seething; a place where hot bathes are furnished; a hothouse. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] As burning Aetna from his boiling stew Doth belch out flames. [12:13] --Spenser. [1913 Webster] The Lydians were inhibited by Cyrus to use any armor, and … [12:14] eintopf looks like a c error code [12:17] tonberry: lol [12:17] ai! [12:29] lol [13:57] cheers all [14:16] heads up, I got my head out of my *** and did some updates on the report... So far I have IRC meetings for December and January... if there is anything else please update or let me know :p https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/ [14:17] nlsthzn: well done! [14:18] nlsthzn: oh and thanks [14:18] * nlsthzn finds it difficult to get motivated to do linuxy stuff when I am on Windows mostly... [14:18] inetpro, I do so little and even that I don't do on time :/ [14:18] but thanks for the thanks :) [14:18] ai! [14:19] that seems to be the new catch phrase on this channel [14:25] ty nlsthzn you a good boy at times [14:26] hehe [14:26] huis toe inetpro [14:26] Kilos: hoekom? Is daar nog reen? [14:26] lol @ ai! [14:26] nog nie maar jy is moeg gewerk nou [14:26] thanks uncle Kilos ... great to be admirable some of the time :p [14:26] Kilos: hoe't jy geweet? [14:27] eks n spy onthou [14:27] net nou val jy van die baiesukkel af [14:27] soos nuvolari daai tyd [14:29] 0007 [14:30] licensed to kill and tease [14:36] hmm [14:36] dilemma [14:43] Core i5 with a 24Gb SSD + 500Gb hdd. or Core i7 Sandy Bridge with no SSD and R500 more. [14:43] 24gb? [14:44] tonberryE352: yep [14:50] Kilos: are you alive? [14:51] it seems not... [14:59] superfly: I am [14:59] I think [15:00] damn, who has a gun? [15:00] haha yes superfly [15:01] was fetching sheep and cooking [15:03] and trying to get my new maverick to use this 3g to update [15:04] somewhere i forgot something. can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com [15:04] this one has 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 as server [15:05] dns [15:05] s/as/has [15:06] ai! [15:06] whats that [15:06] * Kilos scratches head [15:07] this pc is all setup. server works kiff through here [15:08] oh that ones dns server must be this ones ip right? [15:09] not the 8.8.8.8 trip [15:15] yikes! [15:15] * inetpro just realised > Next upgrade date: 07 February 2013 [15:15] should start looking for a new phone [15:16] Kilos: umm [15:16] not always [15:16] what then Squirm [15:17] Kilos: make "that ones" dns server 8.8.8.8 [15:17] i have never got maverick to share the 3g. only the server and tinycore [15:17] oh the one that wants to share [15:18] because if you can ping 8.8.8.8, it means you have internet access. but because you can't ping www.google.co.za means you need to point to a dns server. 8.8.8.8 is googles public dns server [15:18] does that make sense? [15:20] yes but it still says unknown host [15:20] grrr [15:20] i member this one had that conf prob but nothings been changed since we sorted it [15:23] \o/ home time ^_^ [15:23] Kilos: and you restarted networking? [15:23] remember the sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf [15:23] mooi loop nuvolari [15:23] oh no [15:23] i pulled cable [15:23] oh oom Kilos, ek sien oom beskinner my :P [15:23] isnt that same [15:23] wat was dit gewees? [15:23] Kilos: not sure [15:23] laat my hhor nuvolari [15:23] hoor [15:24] Kilos | net nou val jy van die baiesukkel af [15:24] Kilos | soos nuvolari daai tyd [15:24] sien nou nou [15:24] ek is uit [15:24] lmga [15:26] ifdown eth1 dont work there [15:30] and this one says ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" [15:30] that was with sudo [15:31] ifdown eth0 ? [15:31] ya i did eth0 here [15:31] that one shows as eth1 [15:31] in nm [15:35] im sure we had to tell that one to use this one as the dns server [15:35] i gonna reboot it [15:36] Kilos: that may work [15:36] have you tried it? [15:36] its rebooting now Squirm [15:37] if you're using NetworkManager. right click on the icon, click to Disable Networking [15:37] then enable it again [15:37] i tried this ones ip as the dns server yeah but didnt restart the thing [15:37] ai! [15:37] i forgot about that [15:38] w0000t [15:39] ty ty [15:39] ok it works with 8.8.8.8 as dns [15:41] cool [15:41] bbl, food [15:41] enjoy [16:07] hey drussell ludo Mezenir [16:08] hey kilos [16:41] you home superfly ? [16:41] hows the family? [16:41] ya, got home about an hour ago [16:42] they're doing fine [16:42] good send regards for me [16:42] will do [16:44] * drussell waves to Kilos [16:45] hehe 2 pcs here through same 3g === maverick is now known as Guest4336 [16:46] aw [16:46] toods [16:52] night all... sleepy time [16:52] sleep tight nl [16:52] nottoo [16:52] ai!\ [16:53] hmm... xrandr can only go down not up [16:54] above what it sees as max screen resolution that is [16:59] hi theblazehen you well [16:59] been missing hey [16:59] i go eat [16:59] hi kilos yes and you [17:12] good ty [17:12] dont miss meeting night on the 18th hey [17:21] ok sure [17:33] hi :) [17:33] hi smile [17:33] :-P [17:33] hehe [17:33] Kilos: do you know how many wikipedia mails I've received today? :p [17:34] well duh! how should i know that? [17:34] i cant smell so far [17:34] Kilos: no? well, that sucks :P [17:34] lol [17:34] I have received over 100 mails :o [17:34] in one day? [17:34] yeah [17:34] :p [17:34] ouch [17:34] yesterday 60+ [17:35] :p [17:35] I have many articles that I follow [17:35] and for every edit I receive an email [17:35] A bot checked for dead links today & yesterday [17:35] in many articles which are on my follow list [17:35] :p [17:36] thats a clever bot [17:36] yeah :) it checks for 404 errors [17:36] or time out errors [17:36] :p [17:37] I thought that the articles were in a good shape [17:37] but there are many dead links [17:37] hmm... [17:37] some date from 2005 while others are just recently "dead" [17:37] cant you delete them or something [17:39] yeah, we can fix them :) [17:39] first we search the website [17:39] if the link has changed [17:39] otherwise, we check the internet archive at www.archive.org [17:40] if that fails, we try to find another source on another website [17:40] are these links in wikipedia [17:40] if that fails too, we delete the link / put it in comments for later [17:40] well, they are external links [17:40] so not to another wiki page [17:41] pointing to other sires for info kinda thing? [17:41] but to other, external sources (other than wikipedia websites) [17:41] yes :) [17:41] for example, the official site can change.. the address [17:41] ah fix them so i dont waste data [17:41] hehe [17:41] or they can delete an article [17:41] hehe, Kilos :) [17:44] hey smile you happy on ubuntu? [17:44] yeah very [17:44] better than that funny thing you used hey [17:45] told you so [17:45] but I deleted apport-gtk and apport Kilos ;) [17:45] they stalk me too much [17:45] compiz crashed, yea fun [17:45] :) [17:45] who [17:45] the bug reporting tool is called apport [17:45] :p [17:45] oh [17:46] I applied some Unity fixes though. For minimising windows i just click on the icon of the opened program [17:46] omgubuntu.co.uk tip [17:46] did you look at the tweaks [17:47] i dont like anything with omg in it [17:47] what kind of tweaks, Kilos? :) [17:47] omgubuntu is cool ;) [17:48] there is a unity tweaks or something [17:48] your friend [17:48] There is Ubuntu Tweak and Compiz config manager [17:48] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/unsettings-a-comprehensive-tweaking-tool-for-unity [17:49] and MyUnity [17:49] will try, Kilos [17:49] my myunity dont work [17:49] says im in 2d so dunno wassup this nvidia card [17:50] myunity does work here, but it has little options [17:53] all i used it for was for making fonts bigger so i can see them [17:53] unsettings works, Kilos :) [17:53] oh I see. [18:29] inetpro, ping [18:45] tumbleweed: ping [18:51] night all. sleep tight [18:59] Maaz: tell kilos pong [18:59] inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [19:02] good evening all [19:03] hi magespawn [19:04] hey i see Kilos is off to bed already [19:05] magespawn: yep he's an earlybird [19:05] likes to catch all the worms before us [19:06] lately last week was up late [19:06] so what else is up in #ubuntu-za land? [19:10] superfly: hi [19:11] hi tumbleweed [19:12] * inetpro wondering whether it will be worth waiting for the GALAXY S IV [19:13] tumbleweed: what is the current state of 13.04? Is it stable-ish? [19:13] superfly: apprently it's been the most stable development release ever [19:14] but I don't run Ubuntu on my day-to-day machines any more, so that's not first-hand [19:14] superfly: I've also heard others raving about it... but not on the KDE side yet [19:15] we've solved archive installability by running a briteny (the program Debian uses to manage unstable -> testing) [19:15] inetpro: apparently KDE 4.10 is made of awesomesauce [19:15] (but we don't do the 10 day aging thing, or block migration if there are RC bugs, like Debian) [19:16] superfly: what are you running now? [19:16] * inetpro is still on KDE 4.8.5 [19:17] inetpro: 4.9.4 [19:18] will be very interesting to see the significance of my next upgrade [19:18] * inetpro planning to stick with the LTS [19:19] tumbleweed: don't supposed there's an easy way to migrate Kubuntu -> Debian KDE (without reinstalling)? [19:19] no [19:22] superfly: you think there are many KDE developers back on Debian yet? [19:24] hahahahaha oh man, networking meetings ftw, apparently there there was a brawl at nanog [19:27] people now in jail and shit [19:29] tumbleweed: what are you using on your daily then? [19:30] magespawn: debian testing/unstable/experimental mix [19:30] bye :) [19:31] nag smile [19:31] dankie inetpro, jy ook [19:31] geek meetings are so much more fun when people start punching each other [19:31] superfly: seems to me debian is still on 4.8.4 even on unstable [19:33] tumbleweed: thought for a second you were going to say something like fedora or suse etc [19:34] inetpro: that's why you do what tumbleweed does :-) [19:34] ai! [19:35] * inetpro can't afford to chase the bleeding edge [19:35] it's a never ending race [19:36] besides stability is a requirement to do other work [19:36] but I should perhaps try Debian at some stage this year [19:36] been a very long time since I last tried it [19:40] is there a big differance between that and ubuntu? [19:58] sorry inetpro that was for you^ [19:58] magespawn: oh [19:58] inetpro: well I would not know [19:58] yet [19:58] been a very long time since I last tried it [19:58] i see [19:58] :-) [19:59] the difference should not be significant [20:00] ubuntu is after all based on debian [20:00] might give it a go, time permitting [20:01] yeah, that's always the problem [20:01] if you are young and full of energy you should most certainly try multiple distros [20:01] it's a very good learning exercise [20:02] just watched Ubuntu Q&A with Jono Bacon and he likes Megadeth [20:02] whats young? but i still like to try many distros anyway [20:02] whatever that may be [20:07] magespawn: well you are still young anyway [20:15] comparatively i suppose lol [20:47] good night all [20:52] * Squirm stretches [20:53] late at work tonight