[05:17] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:32] <barrydk> Good morning everyone
[05:32] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[05:34] <barrydk> Hoe gaan dit vanmore
[05:37] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[05:37] <Kilos> waar kruip mazal weg barrydk ?
[05:50] <nuvolari> o/ more more 
[05:50] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[05:50] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[05:50] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[05:50] <nuvolari> mornings barrydk, Tonberry, jrgns 
[06:07] <jrgns> morning Kilos, nuvolari, all
[07:05] <inetpro> goeie more Kilos
[07:05] <inetpro> and good morning everyone else
[07:05] <Kilos> more inetpro 9mm
[07:06] <inetpro> hmm... ek het vergeet om te kyk
[07:06] <Kilos> baie donner bliksem
[07:06] <Kilos> haha
[07:06] <inetpro> maar daar was nie baie nie
[07:07] <Kilos> nee baie is 50mm of meer
[07:07] <Kilos> in my drome
[07:07] <inetpro> ai
[08:29] <barrydk> Hi kilos nee jong dit gaan bietjie rof hier met ons kry nie kans om bietjie rustig te raak en bietjie te gesels nie. 
[08:30] <barrydk> Morning nuvolari 
[10:02] <Kilos> Maaz, lunch today
[10:02] <Maaz> Spinach, tomato and onion on toast
[10:02] <Kilos> Maaz, toast
[10:02] <Maaz> Oh well, there will be the same on bread for you toothless wonders
[10:02] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[10:02]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:03] <Kilos> inetpro, coffeeeeeee
[10:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:06] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:06] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[10:08] <inetpro> ai!
[10:08] <Kilos> too late
[10:08] <inetpro> Kilos: did you make lunch for us?
[10:10] <Kilos> yeah
[10:22] <Kilos> wat is die engelse woord vir bredie soos in boontjie bredie
[10:34] <Kilos> i member something like breedy/bredie/bready but cant find a spelling for it
[10:35] <barrydk> Isnt it a stew??
[11:01] <Kilos> not really its a mix of beens and potatoes or tomato and potatos etc
[11:01] <Kilos> ill go nind an english/van der merwe word book
[11:01] <Kilos> find
[11:03] <Kilos> hmm says ragoutout stew
[11:03] <Kilos> ragout
[11:07] <Symmetria> heh, anyone been watching the ITU mess?
[11:07] <Symmetria> and their attempts to destroy the freedom of the Internet?
[11:45] <inetpro> Symmetria: no, what can you tell?
[11:58] <inetpro> Kilos: bredie = stew
[11:58] <inetpro> Kilos: did you enjoy your stew?
[12:03] <Kilos> methunk stew gotta have meat in
[12:05] <inetpro> Kilos: not necessarily 
[12:05] <Kilos> yeah man. stew without meat is weird
[12:06] <Kilos> vegetable stew
[12:06] <Kilos> eew
[12:06] <Kilos> i spose you  can use some oxo oxtail cubes for some meaty flavour
[12:08] <inetpro> in german it's calle a "Eintopf" = one-pot-dish
[12:08] <inetpro> called*
[12:09] <inetpro> strange how something get's a different connotation in another language
[12:13] <inetpro> Maaz: define stew
[12:13] <Maaz> inetpro: Stew \Stew\, v. i. To be seethed or cooked in a slow, gentle manner, or in heat and moisture. [1913 Webster], Stew \Stew\, n. [OE. stue, stuwe, OF. estuve. See {Stew}, v. t.] 1. A place of stewing or seething; a place where hot bathes are furnished; a hothouse. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  As burning Aetna from his boiling stew Doth belch out flames.
[12:13] <Maaz> --Spenser. [1913 Webster]  The Lydians were inhibited by Cyrus to use any armor, and …
[12:14] <tonberryE352> eintopf looks like a c error code
[12:17] <jrgns> tonberry: lol
[12:17] <inetpro> ai!
[12:29] <Kilos> lol
[13:57] <jrgns> cheers all
[14:16] <nlsthzn> heads up, I got my head out of my *** and did some updates on the report... So far I have IRC meetings for December and January... if there is anything else please update or let me know :p https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/
[14:17] <inetpro> nlsthzn: well done!
[14:18] <inetpro> nlsthzn: oh and thanks
[14:18]  * nlsthzn finds it difficult to get motivated to do linuxy stuff when I am on Windows mostly...
[14:18] <nlsthzn> inetpro, I do so little and even that I don't do on time :/
[14:18] <nlsthzn> but thanks for the thanks :)
[14:18] <inetpro> ai!
[14:19] <nlsthzn> that seems to be the new catch phrase on this channel
[14:25] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn you a good boy at times
[14:26] <Kilos> hehe
[14:26] <Kilos> huis toe inetpro 
[14:26] <inetpro> Kilos: hoekom? Is daar nog reen?
[14:26] <Kilos> lol @ ai!
[14:26] <Kilos> nog nie maar jy is moeg gewerk nou 
[14:26] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos ... great to be admirable some of the time :p
[14:26] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe't jy geweet?
[14:27] <Kilos> eks n spy onthou
[14:27] <Kilos> net nou val jy van die baiesukkel af
[14:27] <Kilos> soos nuvolari daai tyd
[14:29] <Kilos> 0007
[14:30] <Kilos> licensed to kill and tease
[14:36] <Squirm> hmm
[14:36] <Squirm> dilemma
[14:43] <Squirm> Core i5 with a 24Gb SSD + 500Gb hdd. or Core i7 Sandy Bridge with no SSD and R500 more.
[14:43] <tonberryE352> 24gb?
[14:44] <Squirm> tonberryE352: yep
[14:50] <superfly> Kilos: are you alive?
[14:51] <superfly> it seems not...
[14:59] <inetpro> superfly: I am
[14:59] <inetpro> I think
[15:00] <Squirm> damn, who has a gun?
[15:00] <Kilos> haha yes superfly 
[15:01] <Kilos> was fetching sheep and cooking
[15:03] <Kilos> and trying to get my new maverick to use this 3g to update
[15:04] <Kilos> somewhere i forgot something. can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com 
[15:04] <Kilos> this one has 8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4 as server
[15:05] <superfly> dns
[15:05] <Kilos> s/as/has
[15:06] <Kilos> ai!
[15:06] <Kilos> whats that
[15:06]  * Kilos scratches head
[15:07] <Kilos> this pc is all setup. server works kiff through here
[15:08] <Kilos> oh that ones dns server must be this ones ip right?
[15:09] <Kilos> not the 8.8.8.8 trip
[15:15] <inetpro> yikes!
[15:15]  * inetpro just realised > Next upgrade date: 07 February 2013
[15:15] <inetpro> should start looking for a new phone
[15:16] <Squirm> Kilos: umm
[15:16] <Squirm> not always
[15:16] <Kilos> what then Squirm 
[15:17] <Squirm> Kilos: make "that ones" dns server 8.8.8.8
[15:17] <Kilos> i have never got maverick to share the 3g. only the server and tinycore
[15:17] <Kilos> oh the one that wants to share
[15:18] <Squirm> because if you can ping 8.8.8.8, it means you have internet access. but because you can't ping www.google.co.za means you need to point to a dns server. 8.8.8.8 is googles public dns server
[15:18] <Squirm> does that make sense?
[15:20] <Kilos> yes but it still says unknown host
[15:20] <Kilos> grrr
[15:20] <Kilos> i member this one had that conf prob but nothings been changed since we sorted it
[15:23] <nuvolari> \o/ home time ^_^
[15:23] <Squirm> Kilos: and you restarted networking?
[15:23] <Kilos> remember the sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[15:23] <Kilos> mooi loop nuvolari 
[15:23] <Kilos> oh no
[15:23] <Kilos> i pulled cable
[15:23] <nuvolari> oh oom Kilos, ek sien oom beskinner my :P
[15:23] <Kilos> isnt that same
[15:23] <nuvolari> wat was dit gewees?
[15:23] <Squirm> Kilos: not sure
[15:23] <Kilos> laat my hhor nuvolari 
[15:23] <Kilos> hoor
[15:24] <nuvolari> Kilos | net nou val jy van die baiesukkel af 
[15:24] <nuvolari> Kilos | soos nuvolari daai tyd               
[15:24] <nuvolari> sien nou nou
[15:24] <nuvolari> ek is uit
[15:24] <Kilos> lmga
[15:26] <Kilos> ifdown eth1 dont work there
[15:30] <Kilos> and this one says ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[15:30] <Kilos> that was with sudo
[15:31] <Squirm> ifdown eth0 ?
[15:31] <Kilos> ya i did eth0 here
[15:31] <Kilos> that one shows as eth1
[15:31] <Kilos> in nm
[15:35] <Kilos> im sure we had to tell that one to use this one as the dns server
[15:35] <Kilos> i gonna reboot it
[15:36] <Squirm> Kilos: that may work
[15:36] <Squirm> have you tried it?
[15:36] <Kilos> its rebooting now Squirm 
[15:37] <Squirm> if you're using NetworkManager. right click on the icon, click to Disable Networking
[15:37] <Squirm> then enable it again
[15:37] <Kilos> i tried this ones ip as the dns server yeah but didnt restart the thing
[15:37] <Kilos> ai!
[15:37] <Kilos> i forgot about that
[15:38] <Kilos> w0000t
[15:39] <Kilos> ty ty
[15:39] <Kilos> ok it works with 8.8.8.8 as dns
[15:41] <Squirm> cool
[15:41] <Squirm> bbl, food
[15:41] <Kilos> enjoy
[16:07] <Kilos> hey drussell ludo Mezenir 
[16:08] <Mezenir> hey kilos
[16:41] <Kilos> you home superfly ?
[16:41] <Kilos> hows the family?
[16:41] <superfly> ya, got home about an hour ago
[16:42] <superfly> they're doing fine
[16:42] <Kilos> good send regards for me
[16:42] <superfly> will do
[16:44]  * drussell waves to Kilos 
[16:45] <maverick> hehe 2 pcs here through same 3g
[16:46] <Guest4336> aw
[16:46] <Guest4336> toods
[16:52] <not_found> night all... sleepy time
[16:52] <Kilos> sleep tight nl
[16:52] <Kilos> nottoo
[16:52] <Kilos> ai!\
[16:53] <Kilos> hmm... xrandr can only go down not up
[16:54] <Kilos> above what it sees as max screen resolution that is
[16:59] <Kilos> hi theblazehen you well
[16:59] <Kilos> been missing hey
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <theblazehen> hi kilos yes and you
[17:12] <Kilos> good ty
[17:12] <Kilos> dont miss meeting night on the 18th hey
[17:21] <theblazehen> ok sure
[17:33] <smile> hi :)
[17:33] <Kilos> hi smile 
[17:33] <Kilos> :-P
[17:33] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <smile> Kilos: do you know how many wikipedia mails I've received today? :p
[17:34] <Kilos> well duh! how should i know that?
[17:34] <Kilos> i cant smell so far
[17:34] <smile> Kilos: no? well, that sucks :P
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:34] <smile> I have received over 100 mails :o
[17:34] <Kilos> in one day?
[17:34] <smile> yeah
[17:34] <smile> :p
[17:34] <Kilos> ouch
[17:34] <smile> yesterday 60+
[17:35] <smile> :p
[17:35] <smile> I have many articles that I follow
[17:35] <smile> and for every edit I receive an email
[17:35] <smile> A bot checked for dead links today & yesterday
[17:35] <smile> in many articles which are on my follow list
[17:35] <smile> :p
[17:36] <Kilos> thats a clever bot
[17:36] <smile> yeah :) it checks for 404 errors
[17:36] <smile> or time out errors
[17:36] <smile> :p
[17:37] <smile> I thought that the articles were in a good shape
[17:37] <smile> but there are many dead links
[17:37] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:37] <smile> some date from 2005 while others are just recently "dead"
[17:37] <Kilos> cant you delete them or something
[17:39] <smile> yeah, we can fix them :)
[17:39] <smile> first we search the website
[17:39] <smile> if the link has changed
[17:39] <smile> otherwise, we check the internet archive at www.archive.org
[17:40] <smile> if that fails, we try to find another source on another website
[17:40] <Kilos> are these links in wikipedia
[17:40] <smile> if that fails too, we delete the link / put it in comments for later
[17:40] <smile> well, they are external links
[17:40] <smile> so not to another wiki page
[17:41] <Kilos> pointing to other sires for info kinda thing?
[17:41] <smile> but to other, external sources (other than wikipedia websites)
[17:41] <smile> yes :)
[17:41] <smile> for example, the official site can change.. the address
[17:41] <Kilos> ah fix them so i dont waste data
[17:41] <Kilos> hehe
[17:41] <smile> or they can delete an article
[17:41] <smile> hehe, Kilos :)
[17:44] <Kilos> hey smile you happy on ubuntu?
[17:44] <smile> yeah very
[17:44] <Kilos> better than that funny thing you used hey
[17:45] <Kilos> told you so
[17:45] <smile> but I deleted apport-gtk and apport Kilos ;)
[17:45] <smile> they stalk me too much
[17:45] <smile> compiz crashed, yea fun
[17:45] <smile> :)
[17:45] <Kilos> who
[17:45] <smile> the bug reporting tool is called apport
[17:45] <smile> :p
[17:45] <Kilos> oh
[17:46] <smile> I applied some Unity fixes though. For minimising windows i just click on the icon of the opened program
[17:46] <smile> omgubuntu.co.uk tip
[17:46] <Kilos> did you look at the tweaks
[17:47] <Kilos> i dont like anything with omg in it
[17:47] <smile> what kind of tweaks, Kilos? :)
[17:47] <smile> omgubuntu is cool ;)
[17:48] <Kilos> there is a unity tweaks or something
[17:48] <Kilos> your friend
[17:48] <smile> There is Ubuntu Tweak and Compiz config manager
[17:48] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/unsettings-a-comprehensive-tweaking-tool-for-unity
[17:49] <smile> and MyUnity
[17:49] <smile> will try, Kilos
[17:49] <Kilos> my myunity dont work
[17:49] <Kilos> says im in 2d so dunno wassup this nvidia card
[17:50] <smile> myunity does work here, but it has little options
[17:53] <Kilos> all i used it for was for making fonts bigger so i can see them
[17:53] <smile> unsettings works, Kilos :)
[17:53] <smile> oh I see.
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[18:45] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping
[18:51] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:59] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos pong
[18:59] <Maaz> inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:02] <magespawn> good evening all
[19:03] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[19:04] <magespawn> hey i see Kilos is off to bed already
[19:05] <inetpro> magespawn: yep he's an earlybird
[19:05] <inetpro> likes to catch all the worms before us
[19:06] <magespawn> lately last week was up late
[19:06] <inetpro> so what else is up in #ubuntu-za land?
[19:10] <tumbleweed> superfly: hi
[19:11] <inetpro> hi tumbleweed
[19:12]  * inetpro wondering whether it will be worth waiting for the GALAXY S IV
[19:13] <superfly> tumbleweed: what is the current state of 13.04? Is it stable-ish?
[19:13] <tumbleweed> superfly: apprently it's been the most stable development release ever
[19:14] <tumbleweed> but I don't run Ubuntu on my day-to-day machines any more, so that's not first-hand
[19:14] <inetpro> superfly: I've also heard others raving about it... but not on the KDE side yet
[19:15] <tumbleweed> we've solved archive installability by running a briteny (the program Debian uses to manage unstable -> testing)
[19:15] <superfly> inetpro: apparently KDE 4.10 is made of awesomesauce
[19:15] <tumbleweed> (but we don't do the 10 day aging thing, or block migration if there are RC bugs, like Debian)
[19:16] <inetpro> superfly: what are you running now?
[19:16]  * inetpro is still on KDE 4.8.5
[19:17] <superfly> inetpro: 4.9.4
[19:18] <inetpro> will be very interesting to see the significance of my next upgrade
[19:18]  * inetpro planning to stick with the LTS
[19:19] <superfly> tumbleweed: don't supposed there's an easy way to migrate Kubuntu -> Debian KDE (without reinstalling)?
[19:19] <tumbleweed> no
[19:22] <inetpro> superfly: you think there are many KDE developers back on Debian yet?
[19:24] <Symmetria> hahahahaha oh man, networking meetings ftw, apparently there there was a brawl at nanog
[19:27] <Symmetria> people now in jail and shit
[19:29] <magespawn> tumbleweed: what are you using on your daily then?
[19:30] <tumbleweed> magespawn: debian testing/unstable/experimental mix
[19:30] <smile> bye :)
[19:31] <inetpro> nag smile
[19:31] <smile> dankie inetpro, jy ook
[19:31] <Symmetria> geek meetings are so much more fun when people start punching each other
[19:31] <inetpro> superfly: seems to me debian is still on 4.8.4 even on unstable
[19:33] <magespawn> tumbleweed: thought for a second you were going to say something like fedora or suse etc
[19:34] <superfly> inetpro: that's why you do what tumbleweed does :-)
[19:34] <inetpro> ai!
[19:35]  * inetpro can't afford to chase the bleeding edge
[19:35] <inetpro> it's a never ending race
[19:36] <magespawn> besides stability is a requirement to do other work
[19:36] <inetpro> but I should perhaps try Debian at some stage this year
[19:36] <inetpro> been a very long time since I last tried it
[19:40] <magespawn> is there a big differance between that and ubuntu?
[19:58] <magespawn> sorry inetpro that was for you^
[19:58] <inetpro> magespawn: oh
[19:58] <inetpro> inetpro: well I would not know
[19:58] <inetpro> yet
[19:58] <inetpro> been a very long time since I last tried it
[19:58] <magespawn> i see
[19:58] <inetpro> :-)
[19:59] <inetpro> the difference should not be significant
[20:00] <inetpro> ubuntu is after all based on debian
[20:00] <magespawn> might give it a go, time permitting
[20:01] <inetpro> yeah, that's always the problem
[20:01] <inetpro> if you are young and full of energy you should most certainly try multiple distros
[20:01] <inetpro> it's a very good learning exercise
[20:02] <Vince-0> just watched Ubuntu Q&A with Jono Bacon and he likes Megadeth
[20:02] <magespawn> whats young? but i still like to try many distros anyway
[20:02] <inetpro> whatever that may be
[20:07] <inetpro> magespawn: well you are still young anyway
[20:15] <magespawn> comparatively i suppose lol
[20:47] <magespawn> good night all
[20:52]  * Squirm stretches
[20:53] <Squirm> late at work tonight