[00:00] <genii-around> dforthman: Did you install using the method described at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide ?
[00:00] <syntroPi> DaemonicApathy, but that doesnt seem to work... weird stuff
[00:01] <syntroPi> DaemonicApathy, maybe something here too http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers/Netgear/WNDR3700/WAN_Setup.htm
[00:01] <dforthman> genii-around, no. i just ran the .run file. I'll give that a shot.
[00:01] <rykuu> I will be right back... gotta get dinner started... keep brainstorming and I will be back momentarily
[00:02] <third> hello anyone have any ideas on no audio with ubuntu 12.04.1 on a gateway 3522gz
[00:02] <R00tk3y> Okay I installed vmware
[00:03] <DaemonicApathy> I'm assuming it's a Minecraft server, from the port. Forwarding for that should be as simple as adding a custom service, selecting the port to forward (25565 for both Start and End), and selecting the device that this applies to.
[00:03] <ikonia> syntroPi: haven't you asked about this before
[00:04] <ikonia> syntroPi: as you didn't want to give people your real servers address ?
[00:04] <rykuu> ok, back
[00:04] <third> hello anyone have any ideas on no audio with ubuntu 12.04.1 on a gateway 3522gz
[00:04] <rykuu> and I did all that Daemonic, but there is still no sign of it working
[00:05] <DaemonicApathy> rykuu: Have you considered that something other than the router may be misconfigured?
[00:05] <syntroPi> rykuu, DaemonicApathy im quite out of ideas, "sudo netstat -tulpen | grep 25565" on server shows its tcp6 open "nmap 192.168.1.5 -p 25565" on other lan pc shows its open, you did forward port 25565 to 192.168.1.5 on your WNDR3700v4 and canyouseeme.org to your external ip shows that port tcp 25565 is closed
[00:05] <ikonia> syntroPi: haven't you asked about this before
[00:05] <ikonia> syntroPi: as you didn't want to give people your real servers address ?
[00:06] <DaemonicApathy> Is this router piggybacked or anything?
[00:06] <syntroPi> ikonia, not me rykuu is trying to set it up, i havent asked before, here port forwarding works flawlessly
[00:07] <ikonia> syntroPi: sorry, someone else asked about this to connect to his local machine and then forward to a remote machine so no-one knew his remote machine address
[00:07] <ikonia> syntroPi: we had a hard time explaining why this was a terrible idea, I wasn' sure if you where the same guy
[00:08] <datsmoida> ikonia - such as TOR
[00:08] <datsmoida> how do i run multiple instances of a program that runs as a service (TOR)
[00:08] <syntroPi> ikonia, sorry never had any routing problems ;-)
[00:08] <DaemonicApathy> Sounds to me like the Netgear is a secondary router, with the primary not set up to forward to it.
[00:08] <syntroPi> that could be it
[00:09] <syntroPi> rykuu, how it your netgear connected to the internet?
[00:10] <rykuu> netgear is hooked up to my modem a Windstream modem
[00:11] <DaemonicApathy> rykuu: Which model?
[00:11] <syntroPi> DaemonicApathy, rykuu well a modem should work on lower protocol level so the netgear does the nat routing here i guess??? isp blocking that ports? possibly? hmmm
[00:11] <rykuu> one sec
[00:12] <rykuu> speedstream 4300
[00:12] <DaemonicApathy> syntroPi, some of the Windstreams support forwarding.
[00:12] <C_Clear> Howdy
[00:13] <DaemonicApathy> rykuu: Assuming a standard setup, go to 192.168.254.254 and forward port 25565 to your Netgear.
[00:13] <syntroPi> http://screenshots.portforward.com/Siemens/SpeedStream_4300/
[00:13] <C_Clear> upgrad ?
[00:14] <syntroPi> DaemonicApathy, this is a double NAT then?
[00:14] <C_Clear> was wondering if I could ask a question pretaining to a 12.04 upgrade?
[00:14] <rykuu> it says webpage it not avaliable
[00:14] <aeon-ltd> C_Clear: ask, don't ask to ask
[00:14] <syntroPi> http://screenshots.portforward.com/Siemens/SpeedStream_4300/Port_Forwarding_Configuration.htm
[00:15] <syntroPi> rykuu, can you see in your netgear which ip that modem uses?
[00:15] <syntroPi> internal ip
[00:15] <syntroPi> oh my
[00:16] <DaemonicApathy> syntroPi: To answer your question, it does seem to be. That's what it sounded like from the start.
[00:16] <C_Clear> No Prob Aeon-ltd just trying to be Polite. Well long story short after upgrading to 12.04 my video driver plays then goes blank after a while. wanted to see if I could reload the video drivers as a solution but kind of a noob and not sure what the proper  "dpkg" command is to do it
[00:16] <rykuu> lemme check, gimme a sec
[00:16] <rykuu> where would I see that?
[00:17] <syntroPi> DaemonicApathy, well port was not open in lan before
[00:17] <syntroPi> not it seems to be
[00:18] <badkarmah> hello!
[00:18] <C_Clear> Ollo
[00:20] <puff> I'm running 12.4 and I am trying to get a new HP 6520 printer/scanner working.
[00:20] <IdleOne> puff HP is well supported on linux, you should be able to just plug it in and have it work.
[00:21] <rykuu> ok, im in the modem
[00:22] <syntroPi> rykuu try here maybe http://screenshots.portforward.com/Siemens/SpeedStream_4300/Port_Forwarding_Configuration.htm
[00:23] <rykuu> ok, I am in the modem port forwarding, I assume I need to forward 25565, but to where
[00:23] <syntroPi> there you should enter ip of your netgear
[00:23] <chaospsychex> is there a 'repair permissions utility' available ? I have done something terrible and I am scared to re-boot
[00:24] <syntroPi> rykuu, but the ip the netgear uses for connecting to the modem
[00:25] <rykuu> whats my netgear IP? would that be the external or the 192.168.1.5 or what?
[00:25] <_helios_> rykuu: that would be the 192.168.1.5
[00:25] <syntroPi> _helios_, thats the servers ip behind the netgear
[00:26] <syntroPi> rykuu, i think its something different
[00:26] <rykuu> it said invalid IP
[00:26] <syntroPi> rykuu, your netgear router has an ip on the lan port it connects to the modem. that should be the correct one i guess
[00:27] <syntroPi> rykuu, whats the modem ip you are on right now?
[00:28] <syntroPi> 192.168.1.254 maybe?
[00:28] <rykuu> one second
[00:28] <rykuu> modem IP is http://192.168.254.254/
[00:29] <syntroPi> hmm well then it _could_ be 192.168.254.1    maybe...
[00:29] <_helios_> rykuu: Are you running the server on Ubuntu?
[00:29] <rykuu> ya
[00:29] <syntroPi> or 2
[00:29] <syntroPi> just a guess
[00:29] <_helios_> rykuu: Goto the server and open a terminal and type ifconfig
[00:30] <puff> IdleOne: Well, when I plugged in the USb cable, it said "Missing printer driver  No printer driver for HP Photosmart 6520 series"
[00:30] <rykuu> ok, I typed that
[00:30] <_helios_> What IP does it give you?
[00:30] <syntroPi> _helios_, the server has 192.168.1.5 behind the netgear nat and thats behind the modem nat
[00:31] <rykuu> which IP am I looking for?
[00:31] <_helios_> inet addr:
[00:31] <syntroPi> the netgear ip connected to your modem. that might be different from that you can reach it in lan
[00:31] <rykuu> in eth0 or lo
[00:31] <_helios_> rykuu: eth0
[00:31] <rykuu> 192.168.1.5
[00:32] <_helios_> rykuu: ok So in your router you need to forward your port to that IP
[00:32] <rykuu> that is done already
[00:32] <syntroPi> _helios_, in netgear router, but that behind the modems nat
[00:33] <rykuu> ya, so what address do I use to forward the modem to the router?
[00:33] <_helios_> rykuu: that will most likely be a mac address or HWaddr
[00:34] <rykuu> so I need to type the mac address in the IP address?
[00:34] <kfizz> For some reason, I can't get an external HD to mount at /Apollo/ and be owned by me -- only root. The directory is owned by me until I mount it, and then root owns it. I have a secondary internal HDD that gets mounted at /MyMedia/ and I am the owner. Fstab and ls -al / here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1614608/
[00:34] <_helios_> rykuu: no, are you in the modem config?
[00:34] <syntroPi> nope thats one proto layer below
[00:35] <rykuu> theres another option I just noticed for the forwarding location, Redirect selected protocol/service to this router.......... ya I am in the modem config
[00:35] <dr_willis> kfizz: what filesystem is on the disk
[00:35] <kfizz> NTFS
[00:36] <kfizz> dr_willis, ^
[00:36] <_helios_> rykuu: There should be somewhere where you can add the MAC address of the hardware connecting if it says IP it will be 192.168.1.255
[00:36] <dr_willis> kfizz: yu need to use tge rght options to get it owned by tge user.  uid=   most likely
[00:36] <syntroPi> rykuu, i think "this router" would mean the modem itself
[00:37] <brightknight> whats that decepticon language looking in my locales?
[00:37] <syntroPi> rykuu, id try 192.168.254.1 or 192.168.254.2 and shoot that canyouseeme.org again
[00:37] <rykuu> sorry, had to save my dinneer from burning
[00:37] <brightknight> whhy did they give me nanobots and plug it into ubuntu.
[00:37] <dr_willis> kfizz:  the ntfs-3g hmpage has examples
[00:38] <kfizz> dr_willis, thanks. I didn't even think about the filesystem being an issue. I'll check that out.
[00:39] <syntroPi> rykuu, i just guess 192.168.254.1 because your modem has 192.168.254.254 and if its using 255.255.255.0 netmask that would be first ip in that range
[00:39] <syntroPi> but maybe it starts at higher number .2 or even more
[00:40] <rykuu> I tried that, it seems to still not work
[00:40] <_helios_> rykuu: if that don't work try 192.168.1.255
[00:41] <rykuu> says it is invalid
[00:42] <brightknight> whats that decepticon language looking in my locales?
[00:43] <rykuu> well I gotta get going... Thanks for the help, I will give Windstream a call later on and see if they can help
[00:43] <syntroPi> rykuu, maybe you can read it from your netgear http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers/Netgear/WNDR3700/Basic_Settings.htm
[00:44] <rykuu> thanks again for your help
[00:44] <rykuu> wish me luck
[00:44] <syntroPi> rykuu its [external ip] > [modem] > [netgear] > [server] and you have to forward it everythere
[00:44] <syntroPi> grml
[00:45] <C_Clear> So any suggestions on how to get my media player from going blank ?
[00:47] <dr_willis> what player and what do you mean by blank...
[00:49] <C_Clear> well it happens in both VLC and Gnome Media Player. I will play a file in a playlist and initially the video works but on the next file i n the play list the video goes away and  the screen is just blank. (white screen for gnome black screen for VLC)
[00:50] <dr_willis> so the video continues to play? you  hear souund? but no  video output?
[00:50] <C_Clear> yes.
[00:51] <C_Clear> on restarting the computer the results repeat. plays fine for a few then goes blank
[00:51] <jakey1> does ls not work on the ubuntu server
[00:51] <dr_willis> a few? so it just randomly happens after a random # of videos?
[00:51] <C_Clear> yes
[00:51] <dr_willis> jakey1:  ls works fine on the server
[00:51] <dforthman> jakey1, ls should work
[00:52] <C_Clear> usually one or two
[00:52] <jakey1> nothing happens
[00:52] <dr_willis> C_Clear:  so just restarting the player does not reset it.?
[00:52] <dr_willis> jakey1:  be les vague....
[00:52] <ikonia> jakey1: you are in an empty directory
[00:52] <jakey1> do i have to manually instal bash
[00:52] <ikonia> jakey1: no
[00:52] <C_Clear> nope. have to restart the computer that usually resets it
[00:53] <dr_willis> C_Clear:  sounds like a video driver issue then
[00:53] <godzirra> Howdy.  Can anyone help me out?  I've installed ubuntu on my macbook (replacing osx) but its now telling me Missing OS, No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key.
[00:53] <jakey1> ikonia, yes
[00:53] <ikonia> jakey1 yes what ?
[00:53] <godzirra> I can boot from the flash drive again and mount the partition any see everything,  Ijust can't boot.
[00:53] <jakey1> yes thats probably it
[00:53] <C_Clear> yes. I wanted to do the dpkg command to reinstall the video drivers but I'm not certain how to go about it
[00:53] <dforthman> godzirra, you installed grub to the wrong location, most likely
[00:53] <tyrog> godzirra: what version of ubuntu?
[00:54] <dr_willis> C_Clear:  reinstalling the same drivers.. should have the exaxt same issue.. since nothing would have changed...
[00:54] <godzirra> tyrog: 12.10
[00:54] <dr_willis> C_Clear:  what is your video chipset?
[00:54] <godzirra> dforthman: How do I get it to the right place?
[00:54] <C_Clear> holdup let me run the command
[00:54] <godzirra> dforthman: It never actually asked me where to install it.  It just sort of did it.
[00:55] <C_Clear> this came up when I ran the lshw command "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[00:56] <tyrog> godzirra: did you download the amd64+mac iso?
[00:56] <godzirra> I didn't even know there was and64+mac iso. :/
[00:56] <godzirra> So no.
[00:57] <tyrog> http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ godzirra the third download should work fine
[00:58] <godzirra> OKay, let me try that one out.  As soon as my internet stops sucking. :/
[00:58] <datsmoida> how do i run multiple instances of a program that runs as a service (TOR)
[01:04] <Phoebus> Night all
[01:08] <theuser> how do i go about stopping ubuntu from automaticaly enabling a keyboard when i plug it in?
[01:09] <C_Clear> tried to lookup the  chipset i mentioned in google. tried the jockey-gtk command as suggested
[01:10] <C_Clear> got "Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed"
[01:10] <ApeShot> I rather foolishly removed myself from all groups.  I have managed to use recovery mode to restore myself to sudo (I'm using Ubuntu 12.10) and a few other obvious ones, but now I'm nagged by the thought I'm missing one or two.
[01:11] <ApeShot> Is there a way to make Ubuntu "fix" my user so that its in all the groups it "should be" in
[01:12] <C_Clear> Also tried to use this  command I came across to update my chipset  "sudo add-apt repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates"
[01:12] <C_Clear> got this result "sudo: add-apt: command not found". Any suggestions ?
[01:13] <tyrog> C_Clear: it is "sudo add-apt-repository"
[01:13] <C_Clear> got it !
[01:14] <C_Clear> let me try again
[01:16] <tyrog> godzirra: what model is your Mac ?
[01:16] <godzirra> tyrog: Its a 9,2
[01:18] <tyrog> godzirra: it should be compatible with ubuntu. Check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro9-2/Quantal
[01:18] <godzirra> Oh, I read that page a lot.
[01:18] <godzirra> I just didn't see there was a specific mac distro.
[01:18] <godzirra> I'm downloading it now.
[01:19] <godzirra> Very, very slowly =p
[01:19] <NandusX> Hello everybody
[01:20] <NandusX> I've in a dead end with my ubuntu 12.10. I'm trying to play an online stream in WMA2 format, using vlc and it claims it doesn't got the necessary codec. Can anyone help me?
[01:20] <Physicist_> What kernel is using the Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:21] <xangua> !info linux lucid | Physicist_
[01:21] <dr_willis> vlc cant do most drm protected streams. NandusX
[01:23] <C_Clear> ok just did the reccommended update video still comes up blank. Should I restart my computer or try something else
[01:23] <NandusX> Ok dr_willis, is there another option instead of vlc to do what I'm trying to?
[01:23] <tyrog> C_Clear: what is your trouble?
[01:23] <Physicist_> my broadband mobile modem is recognized easily by 10.04 (backtrack), The new kernel 3.5.0.23 does not! I can not access internet with ubuntu 12.10 QQ.
[01:24] <dr_willis> NandusX:  no idea. I avoid sites that use wmv
[01:24] <C_Clear> well vlc and gnome media player initially play videos then it shows a blank screen. after playing a video or two the screen goes blank.
[01:24] <Physicist_> Can I, maybe, install an old kernel in the Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:24] <NandusX> Ok dr_willis, thanks anywat
[01:25] <tyrog> C_Clear: Ubuntu 12.10 with regular updates? VLC from the repositories? What's your card model?
[01:25] <tyrog> gfx card
[01:25] <C_Clear> on restart it works fine but repeats the same thing. the chipset is  "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[01:25] <C_Clear> 12.04
[01:25] <C_Clear> vlc from the repositories
[01:26] <_helios_> Physicist_: They might have dropped support for your modem.
[01:26] <tyrog> C_Clear: that's and odd behaviour. Have you updated your drivers, and then did a reboot?
[01:26] <ghargoil> is there a way to make it so that a specific directory from user Alice is always readable and writable by another user Bob?
[01:27] <_helios_> ghargoil: google chown and groups
[01:27] <Physicist_> helios, I did everything and nothing happened. So what?
[01:28] <C_Clear> updated the drivers with the sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates command and then  sudo apt-get update
[01:28] <C_Clear> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. did not restart the computer however
[01:28] <_helios_> Physicist_: They might have dropped support for your device.
[01:28] <tyrog> C_Clear: you need to restart :)
[01:28] <tyrog> then tell if it solved
[01:28] <C_Clear> OK will restart. hopefully it works
[01:29] <C_Clear> speaks again in a few
[01:29] <xangua> you just need to restart x / your user session c tyrog
[01:29] <xangua> mmm he went
[01:32] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:34] <HTT-Bird> ok, which silly goose at Canonical decided that installing a UEFI signed kernel should /not/ install a matching set of files (System.map, config, initramfs, etal)
[01:34] <HTT-Bird> ?
[01:37] <C_Clear> alright tryog. Restarted have some Samurai Jack playing in the background. So far no blank screen. Hopefully I fixed the problem. Thanks for the assistance.
[01:37] <dr_willis>  blame Bill... its always his fault...
[01:37] <Ububegin> I am Desktop recorder to record my GUI software application for demo purposes. So I have managed to hide the top and bottom panels using auto-hide.. I run my GUI from a command shell... Is there a way to make the command shell full screen or remove the *Terminal* heading...
[01:39] <dr_willis> you are recording a gnome-terminal window basically?
[01:40] <Ububegin> No , I will launch a GUI window in QT from the command shell.
[01:41] <tyrog> C_Clear: hope for the best :)
[01:41] <C_Clear> thank you :)
[01:41] <dr_willis> if you are  launching a gui app from a terminal - why do you  want the terminal fullscreen?
[01:42] <Ububegin> dr_willis: hmm, just to hide away my desktop (full of stuff there)
[01:43] <drdeath2013> hey guys, I am new to linux and need help greping a file
[01:43] <dr_willis> so you want the terminal fullscreen... but below your gui app...
[01:43] <Ububegin> dr_willis: If there is a way, to add a nice background to the recording, that would be cool...
[01:43] <drdeath2013> how do I grep a file for all lines beginning with W?
[01:44] <dr_willis> run some imae viewer.. set it below your gui app.. set the gui appp to be always on top..
[01:44] <Ububegin> Imae viewer is it.. is it on synaptic >
[01:44] <dr_willis> drdeath2013:  the regrexp i think is '^W'  or '$W'     theres  a special cahracter for start of line
[01:44] <dr_willis> Ububegin:  use any IMAGE viewer
[01:45] <drdeath2013> dr_willis what is the entire command?
[01:45] <dr_willis> drdeath2013:   grep pattern file
[01:45] <kandinski> where are the sshd logs in ubuntu?
[01:45] <kandinski> I am looking at /var/log/secure, but is there anything else?
[01:45] <saveriom84> ciao
[01:45] <dr_willis> i cant recall most of my regrexp skiills...
[01:46] <dr_willis> no !listing please. ;)
[01:46] <Ububegin> dr_willis: hi, what is this Image viewer ?
[01:46] <saveriom84> ciao
[01:47] <saveriom84> llist
[01:47] <dr_willis> Ububegin:  pick any program that  can view  images...
[01:47] <dr_willis> saveriom84:  no warez here.. move along.
[01:47] <Ububegin> dr_willis: AH... I get it now... Thanks... ;)
[01:48] <dr_willis> saveriom84:  no warez here..  not every channel exists just for warez
[01:48] <drdeath2013> dr_willis: Thank you for the info.
[01:49] <saveriom84> list
[01:49] <dr_willis> !download > saveriom84
[01:49] <escott> drdeath2013, ^ is the beginning of the line $ is the end
[01:50] <dr_willis> escott:  ;) so my memory was not totally wrong.
[01:50] <Crunchcat> !download
[01:50] <Crunchcat> !crunchbang
[01:50] <Crunchcat> Sorry?
[01:50] <dr_willis> that seems  so backwards..   You always have $money    and  $Variables
[01:50] <Crunchcat> Crunchbang is Debian-based now.
[01:50] <drdeath2013> escott: Thank you also for the tip.
[01:50] <dr_willis> Crunchcat:  we dont really care.  its not ubuntu
[01:51] <Crunchcat> But the factoid is wrong.
[01:51] <dr_willis> its also most likely 3+ yrs old
[01:52] <dr_willis> its a generic factoid
[01:53] <dr_willis> im not even sure gnewsense still exists....
[01:55] <gelph> gnewsense is alive and well http://www.gnewsense.org/ but sure it's a lesser distro
[01:55] <dr_willis> these things spring up like danadlions on my lawn... ;)
[01:59] <dforthman> Is there a l2tp vpn client that actually works? i tried the l2tp-ipsec-vpn package, but i can't seem to get it connected.
[02:00] <Node231> anyone here know how to convert base 2 to 2s complement?
[02:01] <dforthman> Node231, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement#Converting_to_two.27s_complement_representation
[02:01] <Relondo> In installed the Kubuntu packages, and now my login screen is the KDE one. How do I revert to Ubuntu login screen?
[02:01] <escott> Node231, if its negative toggle the high bit
[02:02] <Node231> thanks escott
[02:02] <dforthman> Relondo, there should be a "session" switcher at the login prompt. Change it to the one you want.
[02:02] <datsmoida> does upgrading ubuntu update a lot of software repositories automatically ?
[02:02] <Node231> I'm trying to convert 0111 1101 to 2's complement
[02:02] <Node231> I can't seem to figure it out
[02:02] <escott> Node231, so thats unchanged
[02:02] <Relondo> dforthman: I thought session was the DE that I logged into. I want to switch to the Ubuntu login screen
[02:02] <Node231> 2s complement you only have for negatives
[02:03] <escott> Node231, 2s complement just means the high bit means a big negative not a positive
[02:03] <dforthman> Relondo, oh, i see. I read that incorrectly.
[02:03] <Node231> icic thanks escott
[02:03] <Node231> high bit meaning left
[02:03] <Node231> ?
[02:04] <escott> Node231, that would depend on endianess, but in writing yes the left bit
[02:04] <escott> Node231, unless you are in an rtl language... i dont know how they write numbers
[02:04] <Node231> haha
[02:05] <Node231> lost me
[02:05] <dr_willis> to switch login screen managers -->   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   (or ligjhtdm or kdm)
[02:05] <danub> how do i tell if i am running 64 bit or not?
[02:05] <dforthman> Relondo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/138561/reset-to-default-unity-login
[02:05] <escott> Node231, rtl = right to left = tfel ot thgir
[02:05] <danub> uname -a is giving me conflicting results
[02:06] <Relondo> dforthman: Thanks
[02:06] <ikonia> danub: show me the output of uname -a
[02:06] <escott> Node231, but 2s complement with 3 digits the biggest number is 011=3, the smallest is 100=-4 and 111 is -4+2+1=-1
[02:06] <danub> Linux WorkHorse 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[02:06] <Node231> I'm doing 8 bits
[02:06] <ikonia> danub: that is 32bit
[02:06] <ikonia> danub: there is nothing confusing/conflicting in that info
[02:06] <danub> i686 is 64 bit is it not?
[02:07] <dr_willis> theres  no such thing as 64bit pae is there? ;)
[02:07] <ikonia> no
[02:07] <ikonia> 32bit
[02:07] <Node231> for example escott, I'm doing 0111 1101 to 2s comp
[02:07] <tyrog> dr_willis: nope :)
[02:07] <Node231> I know its 0111 1110, but idk how to get there
[02:07] <danub> oh, well nevermind then. i thought i686 was 64 and i386 was 32
[02:07] <ikonia> x86 is 32bit x86_64 is 64bit
[02:07] <danub> i can install rpms yea?
[02:07] <ikonia> danub: no
[02:08] <danub> not even with alien?
[02:08] <escott> Node231, well the first digit is -256. so if you need a negative you start at -256 and then add positives. for a positive you just add positives
[02:08] <dr_willis> danub:  you wan tto risk trashing your ssystem?
[02:08] <ikonia> danub: not really no, as the contents are designed for a different platform
[02:08] <ikonia> danub: only if they have non-os related components, eg: a webpage
[02:08] <Node231> icic, thanks escott
[02:08] <danub> darn. ok, guess building it manually then lol
[02:08] <ikonia> danub: what software do you want ?
[02:09] <danub> java
[02:09] <danub> sun java
[02:09] <ikonia> java is available
[02:09] <ikonia> !java | danub
[02:09] <dr_willis> wwwhy do people onlky think theres rpms for java?
[02:09] <escott> Node231, 1000 0010 is either an unsigned 258=256+2 or a signed -254=-256+2
[02:09] <danub> dr_willis: because thats all that is listed on suns website
[02:09] <ikonia> danub: check that URL out
[02:09] <dr_willis> sun?
[02:10] <dr_willis> its ben oracle for some time now....
[02:10] <wr> on sun's website they also offer a .tar.gz, which is actually a set of precompiled binaries and libraries
[02:10] <tyrog> oracle!
[02:10] <tyrog> are you visiting sun websites from the cache? :)
[02:10] <Node231> thanks escott
[02:10] <wr> same difference, the word "sun" is shorter and less evil
[02:10] <Node231> I wish it specified signed or unsigned
[02:11] <dr_willis> I just used the java from the repos. ;P
[02:11] <dforthman> *
[02:11] <wr> yeah that's openjdk, which i use as well. some apps require sun/oracle java specifically, though.
[02:11] <dforthman> apt-cache search jre
[02:12] <escott> Node231, signed means "using two complement representation" unsigned means "not using two complement" otherwise its just a string of bits. you could look at holes in a piece of paper and say you shakespeare encoded in binary, or you could just see a bunch of holes. what you see is up to you
[02:15] <dr_willis> (2b)||^(2b)  ;)
[02:16] <escott> dr_willis, what is the question?
[02:16] <danub> exit
[02:16] <dr_willis> computer geeksisms for $400  alex!
[02:16] <Sukh> Can u guys please help me i just installed ubuntu  12.10 and there is no dekstop environment or launcher please help!!
[02:17] <escott> Sukh, did you install the server? or is the gui not starting
[02:17] <Sukh> gui
[02:17] <escott> Sukh, what do you see instead of the gui?
[02:17] <dr_willis> theres some annoying bugs where unity or compiz fails to start if the 3d drivers donmt work properly.. but the underlaying X does run
[02:17] <Sukh> only the dekstop wallpaper
[02:18] <Sukh> i can launch terminal
[02:18] <dr_willis> whats your video chipset?
[02:19] <Sukh> amd readon hd i think it is a old computer
[02:19] <Sukh> should i format and install 12.04
[02:20] <DaemonicApathy> I would.
[02:21] <ska> My system uses Upstart now for dbus. But dbus is being run by the user controlling X11.. Is that correct?
[02:22] <isaias> anyone here know C++?
[02:22] <husky_> hello
[02:22] <isaias> hello Husky
[02:23] <husky_> join
[02:23] <bravis> 8-)
[02:23] <root__> h
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> File:///
[02:24] <isaias> Ubuntu is made up of different variations of C, right? C, C#, C++, etc.
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> isaias: yes
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> why do you ask
[02:25] <isaias> I want to learn C++
[02:25] <linuxuz3r> cool
[02:26] <isaias> I know HTML/CSS but thats just styling. I was getting into PhP but got bored of it because I can make a website...then what?
[02:26] <isaias> another website?
[02:26] <dr_willis> take over the world?
[02:26] <isaias> Python would be a good place to start if I want to learn C++, right?
[02:26] <linuxuz3r> what about javascript and jquery?
[02:27] <linuxuz3r> i would get a book to learn c++
[02:27] <evanc> hey folks, I just updated to 12.04 from 10.04 (I know, late to the game) and my computer is a mess. Booting gets a black screen (no xterm) and if I boot into recovery mode, I can get to a root shell but no networking (just hangs). Help?
[02:27] <linuxuz3r> but learn c first
[02:27] <escott> isaias, no python would not be a good place to start learning c++
[02:27] <linuxuz3r> skip c learn c++
[02:28] <isaias> i read everywhere that learning python would help me understand C++ better. should i just jump into C++?
[02:28] <linuxuz3r> yes
[02:28] <astro7> i am starting to learn programming, and i have chosen C++ to start with
[02:28] <astro7> i am also trying to learn Qt
[02:28] <root__> who can help me with backtrack
[02:29] <escott> !backtrack | root__
[02:29] <escott> !ircroot | root__
[02:29] <escott> !rootirc | root__
[02:30] <mark2812> hello who can helb me with backtrack
[02:30] <isaias> what is backtrack?
[02:31] <astro7> didnt backtrack change the name of their distro?
[02:31] <escott> mark2812, #backtrack-linux
[02:31] <bravis> well #backtrack can
[02:31] <mark2812> linus dis
[02:31] <mark2812> ok
[02:31] <mark2812> ok
[02:31] <mark2812> i thaught unbuntu where the same
[02:31] <mark2812> ok thanks
[02:33] <isaias> this is so cool xD. I've been using Ubuntu for months and knew there was a chat, didn't know it would be so populated.
[02:33] <tyrog> isaias: PARTY! xD
[02:34] <somsip> isaias: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic This is the support channel
[02:34] <astro7> or if you use an ubuntu derivative you can come in here and pretend you are using ubuntu and ask your question
[02:35] <somsip> astro7: yes - some people lie to take advantage of other's helpfulness
[02:35] <isaias> and you have no idea how many problems I ran into when starting Ubuntu (well, maybe) xD
[02:36] <somsip> isaias: that's just what the support channel is for. Helping people in that position is what it's for
[02:36] <tyrog> isaias: If you got everything solved, then you learned how to solve your linux problems alone, which is good for "getting into" Linux
[02:37] <Gerowen> If I wanted to start an online blog, what would you guys recommend?
[02:37] <isaias> how do you do that?
[02:37] <isaias> make the text red
[02:37] <somsip> !who | isaias
[02:37] <somsip> isaias: then the client often colors it
[02:38] <astro7> start to type someones screen name, hit tab to complete it...then type message to them
[02:38] <isaias> !who | somsip Thank You! :D
[02:38] <somsip> isaias: nah - like "soms{tab} Thank you!"
[02:39] <bravis> confusion
[02:39] <isaias> somsip: Thank You!
[02:39] <isaias> somsip:  like that?
[02:39] <somsip> isaias: now you're yellow. Well done
[02:39]  * dr_willis sees no red
[02:39] <isaias> somsip: cool. thanks
[02:40] <isaias> dr_willis: is this red?
[02:40] <dem0n> has anyone here used jas-hackberry ubuntu for the allwinner A10 processor?
[02:40] <dr_willis> nope...  its hot pink....
[02:40] <dem0n> i have it installed to my micro sdcard but i am having a bitch of a time getting wifi to work...
[02:40] <tyrog> isaias: like this? xD
[02:40] <isaias> tyrog: yep :D yours is red on mine
[02:41] <bravis> what is the best (relative term) irc chat interface?
[02:41] <somsip> !best | bravis
[02:41] <escott> direct machine-brain interface. thats always the answer to "best"
[02:42] <bravis> lol
[02:42] <isaias> bravis: Try different ones out, pick the one that suits you most.
[02:42] <isaias> hey, ubottu is a bot, am I right? lol
[02:42] <somsip> !bot | isaias
[02:43] <somsip> isaias: though if you want to chat tothe bot, please do it privately
[02:43] <escott> bravis, machine brain interface is still in alpha testing so i wouldn't use it on any brain you cant easily replace
[02:43] <Tex_Nick> lol
[02:43] <isaias> lol
[02:43] <isaias> somsip: cool
[02:44] <isaias> ubottu: hello
[02:44] <isaias> wait
[02:44] <isaias> how do i talk to ppl privately?
[02:44] <isaias> lol
[02:44] <FloodBot1> isaias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <somsip> isaias: /msg bot {command}
[02:44] <phunyguy> !pm | isaias
[02:44] <dr_willis> time to find some irc tutorials
[02:45] <isaias> somsip: wait is this talking privately? or can anyone see this?
[02:45] <dr_willis> freenode homepage should have some
[02:45] <tyrog> and I think ubuntu community has one, or am i wrong?
[02:45] <somsip> isaias: everyone, which is why chitchat is better in #ubuntu-offtopic so it does not confuse people askng for support in here
[02:56] <maden> hi. I'm trying to format my SD card and I get i/o errors. I get this in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/LwVyruF0
[02:56] <maden> I'm unable to format/change anything ont he drive, I can mount / read though...
[02:58] <nimtz> once a connection is shared with ubuntu's utility, is there a way to "bridge" that subnetwork to your main network?
[02:59] <nimtz> (shared using network manager that is)
[02:59] <decci> How to insert RAID driver during the installation time
[02:59] <decci> into Ubuntu 12.04
[03:04] <dr_willis> maden: ive seen sd cards fail in  such a way that they become read only.  you might be a b le to fix it by using 'dd' to zero the card then repartition it.
[03:09] <t0ntin> Hi! Does anyone use free VPN services? Can't get any of them to work.
[03:11] <psusi> t0ntin, a vpn is a bridge between two networks, such as your home computer and the coporate network.. thus, the term "free vpn services" doesn't make sense
[03:12] <dr_willis>  its a bridge to nowhere. ;)
[03:12] <notIronic> psusi:  you could use a vpn service provider to anon your internet traffic
[03:13] <t0ntin> i'm talking about pages like this: http://www.afreevpn.com/ They give you a host name, name and password and you can use the VPN option under "VPN Connections" on Ubuntu. Isn't that how it works?
[03:14] <t0ntin> It keeps telling me that the connection failed
[03:14] <maden> dr_willis: i tried that
[03:14] <dr_willis> maden:  if dd fails to write to the sd.. id assume the sd is failing.
[03:15] <dr_willis> or the write protect switch is on. ;)
[03:15] <tr5> how can i otpimize ubuntu 13.04
[03:15] <tr5> so that it has efficiency like less "bulky" distros
[03:15] <bazhang> tr5 #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[03:16] <psusi> tr5, -EOOVAGUE
[03:16] <ubuntu_> shardaprasad
[03:16] <dr_willis> tr5:  13.04 is still in testing...  so its not optimized at this time..
[03:16] <tr5> ty yall :D
[03:16] <Omen_20> Hi. I keep having an issue with flash video players saying it couldn't load plugin
[03:16] <ubuntu_> I having problem with sysinfo
[03:17] <bazhang> ubuntu_, you mean sudo lshw
[03:17] <ubuntu_> no sysinfo
[03:17] <tr5> what context does -EEOVAGUE go into
[03:17] <Jesterxvii> hey room
[03:18] <maden> lol dr_willis, I also checked that :P
[03:18] <tr5> also i download now 12.10 :D
[03:18] <isaias> anyone know of a C++ or programming channel?
[03:18] <bazhang> !alis | isaias
[03:18] <maden> isaias: ask in #c++
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Please answer
[03:18] <maden> pls respond
[03:19] <bazhang> isaias, also help in #freenode
[03:19] <bazhang> ubuntu_, you never asked a question
[03:19] <Jesterxvii> lol
[03:19] <isaias> bazhang: thank you
[03:28] <IDWMaster> Lately I've been discussing Ubuntu with some of my friends at school and a number of them prefer Debian, mainly because of: a) The unity interface or b) The fact that by default, Unity sends your search data to Amazon when you are just searching for a local program. I was wondering who I would talk to to try and get these defaults changed for new Ubuntu users?
[03:28] <IDWMaster> Personally I like Unity but I don't think search data should be sent to Amazon by default
[03:28] <bazhang> !adlens | IDWMaster
[03:29] <OerHeks> there will be more such shopping lenses in 13.04 :-D
[03:29] <bazhang> IDWMaster, so turn it off
[03:29] <IDWMaster> I know how to disable it in Privacy settings, but my opinion is that it should be disabled by default, because a number of users are complaining about it being enabled by default
[03:29] <IDWMaster> Just a suggestion to change the default option
[03:29] <bazhang> IDWMaster, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[03:31] <godzirra> tyrog: Sadly, the usb drive I made from the iso isn't showing up in my mac.  Not sure why.
[03:31] <tr5> psusi: how do i implement "-EEOVAGUE"
[03:32] <Senjai> godzirra: might not recognize the filesystem you formatted it with
[03:32] <godzirra> I burned the iso to the thumb drive.  It should be whatever file system the iso is.
[03:33] <Senjai> godzirra: no, putting the ISO on a thumb drive does not change the thumb drives filesystem. Unless your burner does it by default
[03:33] <godzirra> I assumed it would.  I'm checking now.
[03:33] <justmmt> hi hi :)
[03:33] <Senjai> hi
[03:34] <Senjai> godzirra: http://guides.macrumors.com/File_systems
[03:35] <godzirra> Senjai: That would cause the mac bios to not recognize a flash drive at all?
[03:35] <godzirra> that seems odd.
[03:35] <dustin> (ubuntu 11.04 64 bit 16Gb ram) is it normal for the system to start using swap space when around 4 Gb of ram is in use? system is also really bogging down when it does this
[03:35] <dr_willis> how did you 'burn'  the iso to the thumbdrive?
[03:35] <Senjai> godzirra: if it can't recognize the filesystem, no
[03:36] <Senjai> godzirra: why did you need to 'burn' an iso anyway?
[03:36] <Senjai> godzirra: FAT32 is a safe bet for all three OS's (in my experience)
[03:36] <tomreyn> dustin: it's normal for it to start using swap space, but it's not normal for it to become slow.
[03:37] <Senjai> dustin: What install are you using
[03:37] <Senjai> dustin: Wubi, or normal
[03:37] <dustin> never used Wubi
[03:38] <dustin> but the system is far from "normal"
[03:38] <tomreyn> dustin: your system is also EOL
[03:38] <tomreyn> !eol | dustin
[03:39] <Senjai> dustin: Wubi is a type of installer. It installs without partitioning and can be slow. Anywho, No idea why its running slow. There is no catch all solution based on the info you provided us
[03:39] <dr_willis> !11.04
[03:40] <godzirra> Senjai:  I had a flash drive laying around and for some reason ubuntu has decided to make their iso bigger than a cd =p
[03:40] <dustin> k system is using 11.04 as a base with mint desktop... 5 drives custom partitioned 3 have swap space
[03:41] <dr_willis> its a dvd iso. now
[03:41] <tomreyn> !mint | dustin
[03:41] <bazhang> dustin MINT?
[03:41] <godzirra> dr_willis:  I know.  I just hit putting something that's like 30 megs too big on a dvd =p
[03:41] <Senjai> godzirra: this is the future, nobody uses cd roms anymore. Only dvd or hd. Follow the instructions from the ubuntu website on making a proper thumb drive in mac.
[03:41] <tyrog> godzirra: CD ISOs are dropped, now only DVD
[03:42] <Senjai> !install | godzirra
[03:42] <dr_willis> godzirra: i bet it will. grow every 6 mo
[03:42] <godzirra> Probably.
[03:43] <dustin> tomreyn, so how does the mint desktop (though morphed in my install with gnome) change the back-end that manages ram usage, and thus dismiss my inquiry?
[03:43] <dr_willis> i vote for removeing libreiffice to save space  ;-)
[03:43] <godzirra> Ha.
[03:43] <godzirra> Agreed.
[03:43] <tyrog> dr_willis: libreoffice is ok
[03:44] <Senjai> dustin:the 'back end' as you would call itis the linux kernel, it is the same thing that runs all distros.
[03:44] <dr_willis> remove it.. put steam on by default. ;-)
[03:44] <godzirra> Senjai: I'm doing it again with the universal usb installer.
[03:44] <Senjai> dustin: It allocates where programs ask. If a program asks for too much the kernel doesnt know the difference
[03:44] <tyrog> dr_willis: Oh, agreed with that
[03:44] <godzirra> I did it with another program before.
[03:45] <Senjai> dustin: Anyways, if your running a mint desktop, and that has slowed your computer, this is not the place to ask.
[03:45] <tomreyn> dustin: linux mint is a linu distribution, it's not just a desktop. unless you're referring to something else? the point about linux mint is that it is not ubuntu and thus this is not the place to discuss it, whether or not there are similarities.
[03:46] <dr_willis> plus its eol
[03:46] <tyrog> dustin: Mint has their own support channel. I can tell you that you can just run Xchat from your current setup and you will get there. But support is not here :)
[03:46] <Senjai> plus its eol
[03:47] <Senjai> godzirra: I dont know why you need an installer.
[03:47] <Senjai> godzirra: unles reccomended by the ubuntu site
[03:47] <godzirra> Senjai: I'm following the instructions on the install link you just had the bot send me.
[03:48] <Senjai> godzirra: okay, then go for it :) I dont use mac (and never will) so I dont know what it reccomends for it
[03:48] <godzirra> You can do it via a dvd.
[03:48] <godzirra> I just don't have any laying around. =p
[03:48] <tyrog> dr_willis: steam together with "Now there are no more excuses for the Change!" as highlight feature xD
[03:49] <dr_willis> heh.. and put an icon for that netflix on ubuntu  package on the desktop....
[03:49] <tyrog> Senjai: Also you can buy a mac and not use osx, just like godzirra
[03:49] <Senjai> tyrog: never, I would never support apple
[03:49] <godzirra> I didn't buy a mac...
[03:49] <godzirra> I work for a company that uses macs. :)
[03:50] <tyrog> Senjai: me too. Especially when there are better alternatives. Oh, and cheaper
[03:50] <godzirra> Ha.  Awesome.  So I put the mac ubuntu iso on the thumbdrive as per the instructions on the ubuntu site... I stick it in the mac and get "No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!  boot: "
[03:50] <Senjai> tyrog: better cheaper and more ethical
[03:51] <Senjai> godzirra: wait, like, when your booting?
[03:51] <godzirra> Senjai: Yup.
[03:51] <godzirra> It flashes the syslinux info
[03:51] <godzirra> then says Unknown keyword in configuration file:
[03:51] <tyrog> Senjai: W8, Stallman said Ubuntu is unethical now. Joking xD
[03:51] <godzirra> and some characters Ican't type because I don't recall the ascii map keys for those characters =p
[03:51] <Senjai> tyrog: lol
[03:51] <Senjai> godzirra: google is your friend.
[03:52] <godzirra> u with two dots over it, something that looks like a oc but pushed together, a backwards f and an o with two dots over it =p
[03:52] <godzirra> Not today it isn't. :/
[03:52] <Senjai> godzirra: The point is, dont rely on a mac to do anything right
[03:52] <godzirra> Not helpful. =p
[03:52] <Senjai> godzirra: I tried
[03:52] <godzirra> It ran osx just fine.  I'd just rather use linux.
[03:52] <godzirra> Heh, I appreciate your help.
[03:52] <godzirra> Wasn't trying to sound ungrateful.
[03:52] <Senjai> ik
[03:52] <tyrog> godzirra: It should work then
[03:53] <tyrog> Have you followed the instructions provided above?
[03:53] <godzirra> Interesting.
[03:53] <tyrog> to create the USB stick
[03:53] <godzirra> I did tyrog
[03:53] <godzirra> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128160/trying-to-boot-from-usb
[03:54] <godzirra> Apparently that's not relative anymore.
[03:54] <godzirra> bleh.  brb.  let me find a freaking dvd.
[03:55] <tyrog> godzirra: yea, good old DVDs to the rescue
[03:55] <nimtz> im sharing a connection using ubuntu network manager and it works fine
[03:56] <nimtz> but i cant ping the shared computer from other boxes in my network
[03:56] <nimtz> (it's in a subnet)
[03:56] <nimtz> is there a quick workaround
[03:57] <evon> Question.  I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for a couple weeks (Couldn't get 12.10 working).  I've been having various program crashes, compiz crashing, and libreoffice is completely wonky.  I am wondering if it's my hardware or this version of ubuntu is just glitchy period.  i have an Nvidia card and AMD CPU. has anyone had similar issues?
[03:58] <mugsy_> evon: my compiz crashes all the time too
[03:58] <mugsy_> plus idle cpu is about 20% for compiz
[03:58] <evon> mugsy_ You know why this is?
[03:58] <mugsy_> evon: I don't.. I'm using i915 chipset drivers.. which is different as well
[03:59] <mugsy_> and intel
[03:59] <mugsy_> are you using a laptop?
[03:59] <evon> mugsy_ so you think 12.04 is just glitchy?
[03:59] <evon> mugsy_ desktop
[03:59] <mugsy_> evon: I couldn't say
[03:59] <mugsy_> heh, so our setup is different in almost every way ;)
[04:00] <evon> mugsy_ oh well at least i know that it's not me
[04:00] <evon> mugsy_ been debating whether or not i should upgrade to 12.10
[04:00] <mugsy_> evon: aye
[04:01] <mugsy_> oh ..
[04:01] <mugsy_> I misread your initial post
[04:01] <mugsy_> I'm running 12.10
[04:01] <kingbeast> hey everyone, well I'm just trying to figure out why a lens I added to the dash is still appearing after I uninstalled it?
[04:01] <mugsy_> haha, I guess our setup is really different in every way
[04:01] <evon> mugsy_ lol. I couldn't even get that installed
[04:02] <evon> mugsy_ I kept getting an error whenver i tried. then when i got it installed, I couldn't get the vid card drivers to work
[04:02] <mugsy_> evon: yeah, can't really speak to anything about the nvidia drivers.. sorry
[04:03] <mugsy_> though I do have to manually patch the i915 drivers since they have a bug with the detect external displays interrupt.
[04:03] <mugsy_> guess that patch hasn't made it upstream yet
[04:04] <evon> mugsy_ Damn. Mint is looking nice right now
[04:05] <mugsy_> evon: haha.. naw
[04:05] <mugsy_> kinda like unity on my laptop
[04:05] <evon> mugsy_ lol. well I do like UNITY but I need something that freaking works the way i need it to
[04:06] <tr5> psusi: how do i implement "-EEOVAGUE"
[04:06]  * tr5 new to this :x
[04:07] <godzirra> tr5: That's a very vague question.  What do you mean "implement"?
[04:07] <godzirra> You keep asking the same thing with no context...
[04:07] <tr5> i asked how i could get ubuntu to run faster
[04:07] <godzirra> Still a vague question.
[04:07] <tr5> he responded thru hilightin me n saying -EEOVAGUE
[04:08] <godzirra>  assume he was pointing out in a funny way that your question was vague.
[04:08] <godzirra> I may be assuming incorrectly.
[04:08] <tr5> it MUST be a kernel thinger!
[04:08]  * godzirra sighs.
[04:08]  * tr5 consoles godzirra romantically 8)
[04:09] <godzirra> Sorry, I'm not that kind of thunderlizard.
[04:09] <Senjai> trolling should be a bannable offence in this channel :/
[04:09] <Senjai> Well
[04:09] <Senjai> Kinda
[04:09] <tr5> ok :x
[04:09] <godzirra> lol
[04:09] <Nils_> Hey
[04:10] <Nils_> One question: Where is the native Steam folder?
[04:10] <Nils_> I'm confused by the files in Ubuntu
[04:10] <evon> Nils_ did you install steam with wine or is there linux version of steam now?
[04:11] <Nils_> linux version
[04:11] <evon> nils_ it will be in your home directory most likely. try displaying hidden files
[04:11] <Senjai> Nils_: you shold learn how the filesystem works ;)
[04:11] <tomreyn> file hierarchy system rather
[04:12] <evon> nils_ if its not there i don't know where it is. sorry
[04:12] <godzirra> lmfao.  I burned it to a dvd...  it isn't booting.  wtf.  I'm cursed.
[04:13] <Nils_> Oh wow it was named .steam
[04:13] <Nils_> That's the reason I could't find it
[04:16] <godzirra> Seriously, this is ridiculous.  It successfully burned and verified and I can't boot from it.  lol
[04:19] <TheCrownedFox> Hi! I have a shell script that I want to run once a second as soon as I login in graphically. I already have the 1 second timing down with watch, where can I start up my script?
[04:20] <g0tR00T> tes
[04:21] <john_doe_jr> I created an index.html in htdocs when an a href to another html page stored in a folder named windows....anybody know why I'm getting a 403 error when the a href link?
[04:21] <Ramsrambo> I am running Quantal 12.10 need libcstdc++ for symphony installation How to get this lib ?
[04:22] <dr_willis> TheCrownedFox:   .config/autostart  perhaps
[04:22] <TheCrownedFox> where is that file located?
[04:22] <dr_willis> in your home of course
[04:23] <TheCrownedFox> ah ok, I will try that, thank you.
[04:23] <dr_willis> may be autorun .. i forget
[04:23] <dr_willis> using watch in a script seems..... weird
[04:24] <Ramsrambo>  I am running Quantal 12.10 need libcstdc++ for symphony installation How to get this lib ?
[04:24] <peterrooney> john_doe_jr: check permissions of folder - viz, is the webserver process permitted to see its contents.
[04:25] <bravis_>  
[04:25] <phong_> hi , is there any diff from redhat and ubuntu?
[04:26] <phong_> it seem that ubuntu is nicer look
[04:26] <john_doe_jr> peterrooney: well I chmod -R 777 each of the files
[04:26] <TheCrownedFox> unfortunently, that didn't quite work
[04:26] <peterrooney> phong: greater than the difference between OS 9 and OS X
[04:27] <peterrooney> john_doe_jr: if the web server doesn't have permission to see inside the folder, the permissions on the file do not matter.
[04:27] <Sail> !lubuntu irc
[04:28] <Sail> !lubuntu
[04:28] <john_doe_jr> peterrooney: so chmod but make sure that wwwrun has access to it?
[04:30] <rypervenche> john_doe_jr: Don't use 777
[04:30] <rypervenche> john_doe_jr: 755 for folders, 644 for files.
[04:30] <tonsofpcs> 422
[04:30] <peterrooney> john_doe_jr: yes - chmod o+x folder; chmod -x folder/file
[04:30] <escott> TheCrownedFox, what on earth do you need to do every second?
[04:31] <john_doe_jr> peterrooney: well index.html is working fine and it doesn't belong to apache
[04:31] <TheCrownedFox> I'm using dwm as my window manager, and I want to display the time in seconds in the root window text. all it does is call date and format it
[04:32] <john_doe_jr> rypervenche: it worked!
[04:34] <godzirra> interesting.
[04:34] <godzirra> this is my syslinux.cfg: à¸. F1 à¹.à¸.ืà¹.อà¸.ูวิà¸.ีà¹.à¸.à¹. หรือ กà¸. Escape à¹.à¸.ืà¹.อออกà
[04:34] <jtomasrl> im trying to redirect frow 80 to 8080 using iptables, but on restart the config dont work "sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080"
[04:35] <godzirra> !install
[04:35] <godzirra> Hrm.  That wasn't it.  Crap.  What was that url.
[04:35] <godzirra> ah there it is.
[04:37] <kunji> jtomasri: Yeah, iptables is not preserved on reboot, you should save the configuration, and have it load with a small script called from rc.local or something of that sort.
[04:38] <dr_willis> TheCrownedFox: check out conky
[04:39] <godzirra> Awesome.  my md5sums don't match at all.
[04:39] <godzirra> Downloading again.
[04:40] <TheCrownedFox> while conky does look quite nice, I already have the script running fine when I call it from the terminal. I just need to find a place to put a call to the script on login, as .bashrc only gets called with a terminal is created. I appreciate the help of course.
[04:41] <Jcopacetic> Hello, I was directed here for support is this right?
[04:41] <godzirra> Jcopacetic: If you're looking for help with something about Ubuntu, and you've already googled, then probably.
[04:41] <dr_willis>  so you are starting a little bity xterm window just to spit out the time over and over and over.....
[04:42] <dr_willis> on login .. every script/command/.,desktop file in .confiig/autostart or autorun normally gets ran.. well if you are using gnome/kde/lxde.. not sure about other desktops
[04:42]  * peterrooney wonders why people forget about xclock and oclock
[04:43] <dr_willis> or the fact the bash prompt can display a clock also...
[04:43] <dr_willis> or screen, or byobu
[04:43] <Jcopacetic> I'm running sudo dpkg -l filename.deb to install a driver for the scanner portion of ny canon pixma mp280 printer/scanner. the printer works but the scanner doesn't and when I attempt to intall the .deb files it says they cannot be found,,,,
[04:44] <cortexA9> sorry for the OT, but the daily of kubuntu have kde 4.10 today ?
[04:44] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  try gdebi foo.deb    it will try to pull inn needed packages
[04:44] <kunji> jtomasri: Use iptables-save > <filename> to save the configuration, and cat <filename> | iptables-restore to restore it on boot.  I'm assuming you're familiar with startup scripts, if not, then let us know and someone can help more with that.  At least I think that's how it goes, my memory on that might be a little rusty.
[04:44] <HelloWorld321> Is PGP still considered to be Pretty Good?
[04:45] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  and its   dpkg -i foo.deb   not -l
[04:45] <Jcopacetic> dr_willis: do I run that in the terminal as dkpg -l?
[04:45] <kunji> HelloWorld321: I don't see why not, as far as I know it is.
[04:45] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  gdebi is an alternative to dpkg
[04:45] <jtomasrl> kunji: i'll try
[04:45] <HelloWorld321> kunji: tx.  just hadn't checked in a long time
[04:45] <dr_willis>   -i = install   ;)
[04:46] <kunji> HelloWorld321: No problem ^_^
[04:50] <bravis_> lol
[04:50] <Jcopacetic> dr_willis: Yes i for install makes for sense than l. so I tried it and I it said "dpkg: error processing scangearmp-common_1.60-1_amd64.deb (--install):
[04:50] <Jcopacetic>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:50] <Jcopacetic> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:50] <Jcopacetic>  scangearmp-common_1.60-1_amd64.deb"
[04:51] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  be sure you are spelling its name right and its path..  use tab completion if needed
[04:51] <dr_willis> Case Is imporntant
[04:51] <Jcopacetic> I'm a noob with a headache so I have to ask if I am supposed to put a space  between -i and the file name
[04:51] <dr_willis> You may wan tto pastebin the EXACT command and error messages for the channel to see
[04:51] <makara> help...all I need is to convert a binary file to ascii. It's turning into a circus.
[04:51] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  err... of course you are
[04:52] <dr_willis> dpkg -i  foo.deb
[04:52] <Jcopacetic> figures, well I c & p from the file itself onto the terminal
[04:52] <Sail> any tool which help to design my custo theme?
[04:52] <Sail> *custom
[04:53] <makara> od dumps the file. binary2ascii looks promising but doesn't accept files. GHex gives me ascii, but there's no select all and I have to drag through the whole file before copying. When I try to save to HTML is creates a buffet of files :S
[04:54] <Jcopacetic> dr_willis: is it the directory? I dragged and dropped the file containing the .deb to my home directory and ran cd /home. but it still didn't work
[04:55] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  you man want to spennd an hr reading some bash beginner guides,,,,    and about linux paths..   /home is NOT your users home directory...  /home/yourusername IS
[04:55] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  just 'cd' returns you to your HOME, not /home
[04:56] <dr_willis> use the ls command to LOOK and see what files are where you are at.. dont just guess
[04:57] <TheCrownedFox> dr_willis: thanks for the help anyway, I'll keep looking into it
terminal opens in your home directory by default
[04:58] <dr_willis> or at least it should. ;)  ive seen some cases where it dosent
[04:59] <mhaz> dpkg -i foo.deb
[04:59] <Jcopacetic> ok so I used ls and I found the file, then I ran dpkg on the file and I got this:
[05:00] <Jcopacetic> jcopacetic@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i scangearmp-mp280series-1.60-1-deb
[05:00] <Jcopacetic> dpkg-split: error: error reading scangearmp-mp280series-1.60-1-deb: Is a directory
[05:00] <Jcopacetic> dpkg: error processing scangearmp-mp280series-1.60-1-deb (--install):
[05:00] <Jcopacetic>  subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
[05:00] <Jcopacetic> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:00] <Jcopacetic>  scangearmp-mp280series-1.60-1-deb
[05:00] <FloodBot1> Jcopacetic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <Jcopacetic> sorry
[05:00] <mhaz> what happens if you double click on it in the file manager?
[05:02] <Jcopacetic> it opens in the software center, then when I click install it says something about dependencies. when it finishes I'll tell you
[05:03] <godzirra> wtf?
[05:03] <godzirra> I just redownloaded the imagine again...  I get a different md5, but still not the one that matches the website.
[05:03] <godzirra> Are the md5sums on the site correct?
[05:04] <godzirra> !install
[05:04] <kepler> which image did you get?
[05:04] <dr_willis> hmm,, try a torrent?
[05:05] <mhaz> ok
[05:05] <godzirra> The amd64+mac one
[05:05] <kepler> 12.10 64?
[05:06] <godzirra> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[05:07] <Jcopacetic> it shows this (i hope I used that pastebin right) 1 2 3 4package installation failed  dpkg: error processing /home/jcopacetic/scangearmp-mp280series-1.60-1-deb/packages/scangearmp-common_1.60-1_amd64.deb (--install):  scangearmp-common: 1.60-1 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with scangearmp-common:i386 1.60-1 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed
[05:08] <mhaz> dependency error. where did you get this deb file?
[05:08] <Jcopacetic> here I believe http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100302702.html
[05:09] <kepler> godzirra, md5s match for me
[05:09] <godzirra> Well crap.
[05:09] <godzirra> I guess i can try downloading a third time. :/
[05:09] <kepler> used this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[05:09] <godzirra> At 30 minutes a try. :/
[05:09] <godzirra> Yeah, that's the one I downloaded twice.
[05:09] <kepler> :/ mine was like 30 seconds
[05:10] <godzirra> for 800 megs?
[05:10] <godzirra> My internet has sucked lately. :/
[05:10] <kepler> i am at work, so that is cheating i guess
[05:11] <godzirra> Eh.  9mb/s I guess isn't bad.
[05:11] <godzirra> Yeah, just a little.
[05:11] <kepler> have a couple of 10 gigs coming in, but 1 gig link on my workstation
[05:11] <godzirra> this one at least boots
[05:12] <godzirra> Maybe I spoke too soon.  :/
[05:12] <godzirra> It seems to be hanging at detecting the bluetooth usb host controller.
[05:12] <godzirra> sigh.
[05:13] <dr_willis> it hates you
[05:13] <kepler> ^ that
[05:13] <godzirra> Yeah, no kidding.
[05:13] <kepler> be more gentle with it. if the md5 isn't matching, no telling what's up with it
[05:13] <Ben64> use rsync to fix it
[05:14] <godzirra> Ben64: I didn't know you could do that?
[05:14] <Ben64> totally
[05:14] <dr_willis> thought that was zsync? but ive  not done it in years
[05:14] <godzirra> Is there an rsync for windows? ;p
[05:14] <Ben64> yes
[05:15] <Ben64> or use torrent, that might be easier
[05:15] <Jcopacetic> dr_willis: does this mean it worked? sudo dpkg -i scangearmp-common_1.60-1_i386.deb [sudo] password for jcopacetic:  (Reading database ... 275438 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace scangearmp-common:i386 1.60-1 (using scangearmp-common_1.60-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement scangearmp-common:i386 ... Setting up scangearmp-common:i386 (1.60-1) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now tak
[05:15] <godzirra> I'm downloading the torrent, but its 37 minutes.
[05:15] <harovali> hi, how's a fin way of starting a daemon of mina at startup time? I use to put the command lin in a @reboot line in crontab. In old times, I used to put things in /etc/init.d and ln -s them from ../rcS.2/S40myscript  , f.i.; now I'm pretty lost. Any hint welcome
[05:15] <godzirra> I'm looking for an rsync for windows.
[05:16] <Ben64> godzirra: have the torrent use the file you already downloaded
[05:16] <Ben64> then it'll just grab what is messed up
[05:16] <godzirra> I did.  Its down to 12 minutes now.
[05:16] <mhaz> uninstall scangearmp-common:i386 1.60-1
[05:16] <Ben64> godzirra: well you wouldn't get any better from rsync then
[05:17] <godzirra> Yeah
[05:17] <harovali> there is that 'boot manager' for X application, but it confuses me more than it helps me make things start at startup time
[05:17] <kepler> 12 mins?? the original download missed like 1/3rd of it?
[05:17] <godzirra> Hell if I know.
[05:17] <godzirra> I think its still going through it.
[05:17] <Jcopacetic> lol I just got that package to unpack. So I remove it and then try the other one again?
[05:17] <harovali> I simply need to run a script, namely the one that runs iptables once for each firewall rule
[05:17] <godzirra> I'm down to 9 now.
[05:18] <godzirra> And its going down pretty quickly.
[05:18] <kunji> harovali: Do you need it just for one user, to start when X does?
[05:18] <dr_willis> harovali:  once at boot? use /etc/rc.local
[05:18] <mhaz> don't buy canon. hp is easier
[05:19] <harovali> dr_willis: just as one would do with ye old /etc/init.d and /etc/rcS.2 etc ?
[05:19] <entreri> hey there, what is the shortcut to hide all windows (to show the desktop) ?
[05:19] <harovali> kunji: no, at machine boot
[05:19] <dr_willis> harovali:  for a quick and dirty command. rc.local is easy. or make a upstart service for it..
[05:19] <mhaz> looks like it replaced it. try restarting printer daemon or just logout
[05:19] <dr_willis> entreri:  press and hold the super key to see unity shortcuts
[05:19] <kunji> harovali: go with dr_willis' suggestion then.
[05:19] <harovali> kunji: my mention to X was because there is an application for X that suposedly manages what to run at boottime
[05:20] <harovali> kunji: thanks
[05:20] <Ben64> !who | mhaz
[05:20] <harovali> dr_willis: just putting it there makes it plainly run ? no order or special tricks ?
[05:20] <mhaz> si
[05:21] <entreri> dr_willis: the "windows" key ?
[05:21] <wiggmpk> anyone else having an issue with suspend on 12.04?
[05:21] <dr_willis> harovali:  should.
[05:21] <harovali> dr_willis: thanks
[05:21] <dr_willis> !super
[05:21] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:21] <Ben64> wiggmpk: nope, you're the only person
[05:21] <mhaz> ubuntu=train wreck=out
[05:21] <harovali> is there a plain tutorial as to how to make a startup service with one's own scripts that you know of?
[05:22] <dr_willis> !upstart | harovali
[05:22] <harovali> thanks
[05:22] <dr_willis> the upstart 'cookbook' is the best docs
[05:22] <harovali> thanks x 2
[05:22] <Ben64> upstart isn't very easy to figure out though, but it should work if you read the whole manual, which is like 5200 pages
[05:22] <wiggmpk> Ben64 :P funny
[05:23] <harovali> Ben64: yes I know. I'll put the damn script in /etc/rc.local :-)
[05:23] <Ben64> harovali: i was trying to figure out upstart for a while, gave up
[05:24] <dr_willis> hmm. found the upstart cookbook fairly c;lear
[05:24] <kunji> Ben64: Like the iptables man page?
[05:24] <harovali> Ben64: I almost went crazy reading about systemd and survived, but startup is rather wierd to me (by my prejudices 'standards')
[05:24] <dr_willis> systemd - is going to be so,,,,weird when it eventually gets into ubuntu'
[05:24] <harovali> dr_willis: I'll give the cookbook a fair try, thanks a lot
[05:25] <harovali> dr_willis: I'm running it in arch
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> harovali: kinda have to though, don't you?
[05:26] <harovali> aeon-ltd: I didn't get your sentence , sorry
[05:26] <aeon-ltd> harovali: initscripts being dropped, so you have to use systemd
[05:27] <godzirra> well crap.
[05:27] <harovali> aeon-ltd: yes, that was a very hard to swollow step in arch
[05:27] <godzirra> What md5sum were you guys getting?
[05:27] <harovali> aeon-ltd: ultimately it wasn't horrible
[05:27] <kepler> 7b7c56c74008da7d97bd49669c8a045d  Downloads/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[05:27] <kunji> Hmm, are there any obvious regressions that might occur going to systemd from, is it upstart in use now?
[05:27] <godzirra> Uh..  thats the one I got, but thats not the one in the md5sum file?
[05:28] <godzirra> Crap.  Yes, it was.
[05:28] <godzirra> Nevermind.
[05:28] <kepler> haha
[05:28] <godzirra> I still had the wrong sum the first two times =p
[05:28] <harovali> thanks you all !
[05:28] <kepler> to be honest, i looked at the first 3 and last 3, so i went back to double check
[05:29] <godzirra> I was looking at the server md5 last time
[05:29] <godzirra> Although even looking at the right one, the last time my md5sum was still off
[05:29] <godzirra> we'll see if booting works this time.
[05:29] <harovali> dr_willis: one last question, which component is responsible for running rc.local/* scripts ?
[05:29] <godzirra> Thanks for all your guys help
[05:29] <dr_willis> harovali:  upstart handles them all.. it even relicagtges the sysv bits
[05:29] <dr_willis> replicates
[05:29] <puff> I'm stuck trying to get an HP photosmart 6520 printer/scanner worknig with ubuntu 12.4.
[05:30] <wiggmpk> Every time I attempt to suspend, my screen turns black and then jumps back to my lock screen. Looking through /var/log/pm-suspend.log I only see 2 fails with NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant. After some googling I tried a few scripts (which have worked in the past) in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ with no effect. I tried unloading my wireless driver and disabling network-manager all together prior to suspending with no effect. Any thoughts?
[05:31] <kunji> !details | puff
[05:32] <Jcopacetic> ok so according to my terminal, when I type dpkg -r filename I need super user privileges
[05:32] <Ben64> Jcopacetic: yeah, use sudo
[05:32] <davey486> is there a way to get input from my controller to tell me what keys presses are being sent from it?
[05:32] <godzirra> Indeed you do.
[05:32] <swang1> oo
[05:32] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  you need sudo rights for package management yes
[05:32] <swang1> irc 好了。。
[05:32] <puff> kunji: When I plug it in via USB, it shows up in lsusb output and ubuntu says driver not found.  Searched and found drivers for 6510.  Now it shows up in printers and I can print a test page.  Simple Scan doesn't see it for scanning.  Also, this printer is supposed to support wireless, so I'd like to get that working.
[05:32] <singharkirat> hey everyone!
[05:33] <singharkirat> is there ubuntu available for ibm-powerpc
[05:33] <singharkirat> ?
[05:33] <singharkirat> please its urgent
[05:33] <godzirra> This still seems to hang right after it finds the bluetooth usb host controller
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> !ppc
[05:33] <puff> singharkirat: Probably... what did the almighty google say?
[05:33] <dr_willis> pppc  linux can be rather... problematic ive found
[05:34] <kunji> puff: I'm no expert in printers.  You could check the output of scanimage -Lv though
[05:34] <godzirra> So whats weird is regular ubuntu (not the mac one specifically) installs and runs just fine on my macbook...
[05:34] <Jcopacetic> thats embarrassing, we I removed scangearmp-mp280series:i386 1.60-1. should I remove all of the .debs I've unpacked?
[05:34] <godzirra> Its just the boot problem I'm having.  As in it doesn't boot.
[05:34] <Jcopacetic> related to my scanner that is...
[05:34] <singharkirat> puff: i am getting for apple, not ibm
[05:34] <aeon-ltd> godzirra: using refit?
[05:34] <dr_willis> Jcopacetic:  unpacked? You mean Installed?
[05:35] <aeon-ltd> singharkirat: see the link the bot posted
[05:35] <puff> kunji: Cool, will try that.
[05:35] <dr_willis> singharkirat:  whats the exact pc you have?
[05:35] <godzirra> aeon-ltd: I was originally using refit and it worked fine, but I blew away the mac partition which took refit with it.  Now I get the "No boot device" error.
[05:35] <Jcopacetic> well my terminal unpacked them but sure
[05:35] <godzirra> aeon-ltd: I assumed installing grub would work.  I was incorrect.
[05:35] <DSteele> hi
[05:36] <davey486> dr_willis: is there something like xev that isn't part of the xserver package?
[05:36] <singharkirat> its ibm poerpc server
[05:36] <ubuntu_> Test.  Please Ignore...
[05:36] <singharkirat> aeon-ltd: link please..
[05:36] <davey486> I've been looknig but can't find anything
[05:36] <dr_willis> davey486:  not that ive ever noticed
[05:36] <davey486> k thanks
[05:37] <puff> kunji: Hm, scanimage -Lv says not found, but also suggests using sane-find-scanner, which reports seeing the scanner.  So maybe not SANE-supported.
[05:37] <davey486> do you know of anything like that for win xp?
[05:37] <aeon-ltd> !ppc | singharkirat
[05:37] <singharkirat> ubottu:
[05:37] <singharkirat> ubottu: thanx..
[05:38] <godzirra> aeon-ltd: Any ideas how to do this without a mac partition?
[05:38] <eoliva> I'm having problems with Intel Series 7/C210 chipset and my sound is not working, I tried a lot of things: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=98cdb628090699b07d5eea844b19c725668f7706
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> godzirra: not a clue, unless there is some kind of refit install livecd
[05:38] <kunji> puff: Maybe, all I know about it is that if the scanimage command had found it, then it should be working, so we've definitely confirmed there is a problem, unfortunately I don't even have a stab at a solution.
[05:40] <harovali> yet another question: if I put an interface definition in /etc/network/interfaces , can I be confident that it will be processed at boot time without NetworkManager clash?
[05:40] <datsmoida> is there any reason to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 ?
[05:40] <dr_willis> you want the 12.10 features
[05:40] <godzirra> aeon-ltd: Good call.  Didn't even think of that.  Trying it now.
[05:41] <agent> Willis, I wanted to do that but, i was waiting to read more about what problems are occuring
[05:41] <dr_willis> you newd newer kernal..
[05:41] <grahamcracker> i have 12.04 and 12.10 i dont even know the difference except 12.10 is buggier..
[05:41] <datsmoida> lol gr8
[05:41] <agent> I've only just corrected wireless in 12'04 on my netbook. I was waiting beofr I tried 12.10
[05:42] <datsmoida> what are these features
[05:42] <grahamcracker> 12.10's sidebar is cooler too
[05:42] <dr_willis> newer kernel. newer drivers..
[05:42] <datsmoida> cmon
[05:42] <datsmoida> it's still buggy right
[05:42] <datsmoida> dem bugs
[05:42] <dr_willis> life is buggy
[05:42] <datsmoida> don't need it
[05:43] <dr_willis> 12.04 has bugs also
[05:43] <datsmoida> it works fine
[05:43] <agent> later when I know what I'm dong more maybe.
[05:43] <datsmoida> y i need more
[05:43] <datsmoida> more bugs
[05:43] <dr_willis> newer kernel. newer drivers........
[05:43] <kunji> grahamcracker: Personally I've experienced fewer bugs with 12.10, mainly in the case of wireless devices
[05:43] <datsmoida> cmon ..
[05:43] <dr_willis> is the main reason
[05:43] <godzirra> Wireless was wicked easy to setup for me on 12.10
[05:43] <godzirra> I've not tried 12.04 though.
[05:44] <dr_willis> i got wireless thats fully linus supported. no hassles
[05:44] <grahamcracker> kunji yeah i tried 12.04 and 12.10 on my desktop and 12.10 actually used my usb wireless receiver
[05:44] <datsmoida> well now it's illegal to crack a phone, so
[05:44] <agent> for wireless i did an upgrade and played with bios.  It broke a few times.
[05:44] <kunji> godzirra: It mostly was for 12.04 as well, but there was a kernel update that made one of my devices jam the entire wireless band if it came under heavy load, it wasn't fun
[05:44] <godzirra> Doh.
[05:44] <grahamcracker> but 12.04 kept using the one onboard
[05:44] <superear> 13.04 every app went slow ,why?
[05:45] <grahamcracker> 12.04 on my laptop is just fine though
[05:45] <grahamcracker> -o000000/[p'''''''qw23r4444|
[05:45] <grahamcracker> sorry
[05:45] <grahamcracker> i was wiping my keyboard
[05:45] <FloodBot1> grahamcracker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <cocomo> how can i know the package version before installing it through sudo apt-get install?
[05:46] <godzirra> aeon-ltd: If I'm using refit, I don't need grub or anything right?  Do I neven need the partition mounted in /boot ?
[05:46] <superear> i love unity!!!
[05:47] <godzirra> I can boot refit with a livecd, but I can't figure out how to reinstall it from that live cd.  I think I need to install it to an hfs+ partition
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> godzirra: i've found this but this user used quite an old macbook http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5166788&postcount=21
[05:48] <godzirra> Thanks, let me read up.
[05:48] <kunji> cocomo: Umm, I think the simulation will tell you, I might be wrong though
[05:48] <dr_willis> !version
[05:49] <ubuntuw1204> want to share printer from windows vista to ubuntu pls help
[05:49] <Gnea> !printer | ubuntuw1204
[05:50] <cocomo> kunji: i just added a repository for jdk now i want to install it but am affraid that sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk might install jdk from ubuntu repository!
[05:52] <cocomo> if i add a repository for packages that might also be present in official repo how can i install packages from repo i manually added?
[05:53] <godzirra> cocomo: man apt-get
[05:54] <timfrost> cocomo: update the sources with 'sudo apt-get update', then use 'apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jdk' to see which repository will be ised
[05:54] <timfrost> cocomo: s/ised/used/ :)
[05:55] <ubuntuw1204> Gnea: how can i completely remove samba
[05:56] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  why do you need to?
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info samba
[05:57] <cocomo> timfrost: ty
[06:00] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: actually i want to reinstall samba
[06:01] <dr_willis> apt has a reinstall option
[06:01] <timfrost> cocomo: look for the 'Candidate:' line, which will show the preferred version (eg, for boinc-client on quantal, I get 'Candidate: 7.0.27+dfsg-5ubuntu0.12.04.1', which is in quantal-updates/universe
[06:01] <dr_willis> but why do you expet to gain by it?
[06:02] <dr_willis> but what  do you expet to gain by reinstalling  it?
[06:04] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: i have edited smb.conf file without backing it up
[06:05] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: also edited some files with gadmin-samba now i am confused... what to do
[06:05] <dr_willis> !find smb.conf
[06:06] <dr_willis> i think the smb.conf is in samba-common
[06:06] <wiggmpk> ubuntuw1204: /usr/share/samba/smb.conf should work for you mate
[06:06] <dr_willis> purge/reinstall that - to get back an original
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> then make a backup copy so you don't have to do it again
[06:07] <prakashbs> Hi Friends.. Can some one help me in understanding the license for Virtualization.. I want to use Microsoft VMs on Linux Hypervisor..
[06:09] <prakashbs> Hi Friends.. Can some one help me in understanding the license for Virtualization.. I want to use Microsoft VMs on Linux Hypervisor..
[06:10] <Ben64> prakashbs: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, might want to ask in ##windows
[06:10] <aeon-ltd> prakashbs: dude it's only been 2 minutes, and this is not vm support
[06:22] <giggazilla> Anyone good with partition recovery?
[06:23] <val_ramos> Hello.  I am new to ubuntu and am loving it.  However, I've been struggling to get the nvidia experimental 310.14 driver to install successfully on my copy of 12.10.  Appreciate any help.
[06:24] <jason766> call the nearest customer service center
[06:24] <Speficicity> Is there any particular reason the texlive package with ubuntu is 3 years old? =\
[06:24] <Speficicity> Although I guess that has to do more with debian's packaging?
[06:24] <mickeythewolf> anyone know how to solve the usb drive can't be format problem
[06:25] <mickeythewolf> i got a usb drive that show empty but on property it show half of the drive is available
[06:25] <mickeythewolf> and it also can not be format
[06:26] <jason766> that means your drive is experiencing a problem
[06:26] <OerHeks> mickeythewolf, what kind of usb drive, U3 ?
[06:26] <mickeythewolf> thumbdrive
[06:26] <DSteele> mickeythewolf: sounds like a problem I had b4 when the jumper pins were in the wrong position
[06:26] <mickeythewolf> flash drive
[06:26] <giggazilla> I had software raid using the onboard intel ich9 and one drive failed.  While the intel rapid storage software rebuilt the drive my second array doesn't show any data
[06:26] <giggazilla> It had an ext3 filesystem on it.
[06:27] <jason766> throw your usb away then
[06:27] <jason766> buy a new one
[06:27] <mickeythewolf> who got any solution ?
[06:28] <woo> Any support for 13.04 yet?
[06:29] <woo> mickeythewolf: did you try gparted?
[06:29] <timfrost> woo: support in 13.04 of what?
[06:29] <iceroot> woo: #ubuntu+1
[06:30] <mickeythewolf> no one got solution ?
[06:30] <woo> timfrost: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) && ty | iceroot
[06:31] <giggazilla> jason766: It's not a usb drive. lol.  I was part of a raid array.
[06:31] <woo> mickeythewolf: did you try gparted? or partition magic?
[06:32] <mickeythewolf> i tried ubuntu disk management
[06:32] <dr_willis> dd to zero the usb. then repartion it...
[06:33] <timfrost> woo:as iceroot indicated, general support of 13.04(Raring Ringtail) is in #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <woo> timfrost: oh ya im there
[06:35] <woo> mickeythewolf: dr_willis is < woo.  I would also check out fdisk, gparted and testdisk
[06:35] <woo> dr_willis > woo
[06:35] <woo> sry
[06:36] <vnc786> i am running rsync and want to allocate 50% CPU currently i have done renice to -20 but can't see cpu usage high... its still low..
[06:37] <mugsy_> vnc786: perhaps the rsync process is not bound by cpu?
[06:38] <iceroot> vnc786: its a bad idea to set something to -20, specially when it is very io-itensive
[06:38] <kunji> vnc786: Disk or network transfer rates are much more likely the cause, but we don't know your hardware setup
[06:38] <iceroot> vnc786: and the main bottleneck will be %wa (io)
[06:39] <vnc786> i am just transfering from sata hdd to sata hdd
[06:41] <vnc786> iowait is 39.93 how abt that..
[06:41] <iceroot> vnc786: and the main bottleneck will be %wa (io)
[06:42] <iceroot> vnc786: have a look at "ionice" to adjust priority for io-tasks (with the wrong usage you can easily kill the system)
[06:42] <vnc786> iceroot: cpu0 95  cpu1 95
[06:43] <iceroot> vnc786: i dont get what you really want to know. we have told you how to adjust the priority using "ionice"
[06:43] <vnc786> iceroot: cpu0 95  cpu1 95 --->%wa(io)
[06:43] <iceroot> vnc786: and the main bottleneck will be %wa (io)
[06:43] <iceroot> vnc786: what is your real question?
[06:44] <iceroot> vnc786: and with %wa of 95, the system should be already nearly dead
[06:46] <fedor> hi there, i am desperate, pls help. I took all the steps i found in the net to make flash work with my webcam but to no avail. that just impossible for me. When i use streaming sites the picture in my webcam is greened i tried using some instructions posted in the net, but again that's useless. could you help
[06:46] <W|cKeD> i'm still having a problem with my wireless in ubuntu 10.04 for dell inspiron 1545
[06:47] <W|cKeD> any help?
[06:47] <vnc786> iceroot: here is the scenario  the sda header is making noice nearly it is damage but can access data. now i running systemrescuecd  and copying to new hdd through rsync ..but from last 2 hour it is still copying a single iso..
[06:48] <iceroot> vnc786: and what is your support-question?
[06:50] <vnc786> can i make rsync more faster by giving priority
[06:51] <iceroot> vnc786: and the main bottleneck will be %wa (io)
[06:51] <iceroot> vnc786: no
[06:51] <dr_willis> vnc786: ddrescue may be a better way to copy/recover from failing hard drives
[06:51] <iceroot> vnc786: rsync is waiting ( %wa(it)) for your hdd to deliver/write the data
[06:52] <W|cKeD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1615241/ <---- can someone help in this? network unclaimed....what will i do to make it work? i got ubuntu 10.04 here
[06:52] <vnc786> iceroot: please have a look at top  http://pastebin.com/aJajqAxj
[06:52] <iceroot> vnc786: the main problem is rsync is acting on a higher level, when you are using dd (or ddrescue) its working on low-level and does not to the complete repairing when something is broken
[06:53] <iceroot> vnc786: rsync will try to reread something when there are ioerrors, dd will ignore those errors
[06:53] <iceroot> vnc786: but ioerror means "file is broken"
[06:54] <dr_willis> !info fsarchiver
[06:55] <dr_willis> fsarchiver has verify and recover  options i recall
[06:55] <woo> W|cKeD: what os version?
[06:55] <W|cKeD> woo, ubuntu 10.04 distro and i got dell inspiron 1545
[06:56] <vnc786> iceroot: the issue is on sda(old sata) all data is on different partitions (logical) and now i m putting all that data on single hdd (750gb)..is there any better way to do that ...
[06:59] <woo> W|cKeD: means there is no wireless driver for that card
[06:59] <ubuntuw1204> i have a router and a printer want to share printer over router am using ubuntu 12.04  paste.ubuntu.com/1615393/
[07:00] <woo> W|cKeD: I am checking fourms and seems there are two ways to go about it 1. port the driver over to your machine 2. install linux-backports.  wish i could help more
[07:01] <ubuntuw1204> printer and scan over wifi router
[07:01] <woo> W|cKeD: did you try 'Additional Drivers'?
[07:01] <W|cKeD> how can i port the driver to the machine? sorry bro still learnin stuffs hmmm for the backports i already did using package manager still not working
[07:02] <W|cKeD> yup that's what i did awhile ago no luck...
[07:08] <njh_> I'm trying to get ubuntu to boot on an aspire s7
[07:08] <njh_> it boots perfectly from usb stick
[07:09] <njh_> but no matter what I try I can't get past "no bootable device insert boot disk" from the uefi or legacy loader
[07:09] <njh_> any suggestions?
[07:10] <ubuntuw1204> i have a router and a printer want to share printer over router am using ubuntu 12.04  paste.ubuntu.com/1615393/
[07:10] <W|cKeD> woo, still there bro? got dc
[07:10] <ubuntuw1204> linuxtech:
[07:10] <giggazilla> So I booted the ubuntu rescue remix live cd and mount one of the original partitions and located my fstab file.
[07:10] <njh_> the disk is raid, which might be my problem, although I have successfully created an efi partition and run efibootmgr
[07:11] <ubuntuw1204> AaaA:
[07:11] <ubuntuw1204> abi_:
[07:11] <ubuntuw1204> ada
[07:11] <abi_> Ubuntuw1204
[07:11] <abi_> ubuntuw1204
[07:11] <giggazilla> Looks like the soft raid array I need to recover is /dev/mapper/isw_cdbcbbccgc_Stuff2, but /dev only lists a isw_cdbcbbccgc_Stuff?
[07:12] <ubuntuw1204> abi_: i have a router and a printer want to share printer over router am using ubuntu 12.04  paste.ubuntu.com/1615393/
[07:12] <Ben64> !patience | ubuntuw1204
[07:13] <Ben64> ubuntuw1204: also, don't ping random people in the channel
[07:13] <ubuntuw1204> Ben64: Ok sir, sorry!
[07:19] <Ben64> ubuntuw1204: theres a driver on the page you linked to for the printer
[07:20] <W|cKeD> !seen woo
[07:20] <giggazilla> Hmmm.... so testdisk found the missing partition on the second array
[07:20] <njh_> giggazilla, are you booting from raid?
[07:20] <giggazilla> I'm guessing it's a Primary partition and not primary bootable
[07:21] <giggazilla> njh_: I'm using the onboard intel ich9 chipset
[07:21] <W|cKeD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1615241/ <---- can someone help me on this? i got dell inspiron 1545 ubuntu 10.04
[07:21] <giggazilla> lost a drive and it recovered the first array fine, then booted into windows to rebuild the second array, but doesn't show any data.
[07:21] <giggazilla> testdisk shows the partition and even the files still on it.
[07:22] <Ben64> !details | W|cKeD
[07:22] <giggazilla> I want to write the partition to it and not screw my other array up, but the starting block seems to be beyond the other partitions so I'm good?
[07:24] <W|cKeD> Ben64, sir, i tried to activate my broadcom STA driver but i got an error message and here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1615672/
[07:26] <W|cKeD> so i tried this command and got this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1615241/ i'm using dell inspiron 1545 32bit ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-21-generic
[07:26] <Ben64> I'm not seeing an error message. you might want to try a 12.04 or 12.10 live cd and see if it works there
[07:26] <W|cKeD> is there a cure to make my wireless recognizable?
[07:27] <dr_willis> cure wiuld be getting some working drivers installed
[07:28] <dr_willis> a newer ubuntu may wirk better for ta.
[07:30] <ubuntuw1204> Ben64: I have the driver. There is a usb port in the router i connect the printer to that port. i am able to use the printer in windows but on ubuntu it doesn't show up..
[07:31] <antonio_> I'm about to install Handbrake...Its saying that certain programs are going to be removed..for example gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, k3b, etc.  is this safe?
[07:31] <flintser> W|cKeD: did you try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:31] <njh_> antonio_, yes
[07:32] <antonio_> ok..
[07:32] <njh_> in general you can always just reinstall them
[07:32] <njh_> apt won't let you uninstall important things
[07:32] <njh_> (well it will tell you)
[07:32] <antonio_> damn..can't install
[07:32] <antonio_> "handbrake-gtk:i386: Depends: libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 but it is not going to be installed
[07:32] <flintser> W|cKeD: and it seemed that those bcm43 and b43 drivers were blacklisted?
[07:33] <antonio_> is someone trying to get a broadcom to work?
[07:33] <antonio_> I found a super simple solution that worked for me last night
[07:37] <issa> Hello
[07:37] <issa> evrybody
[07:37] <issa> i have a big problem with my web server ubuntu
[07:37] <issa> i m using ubuntu 12.04 and i have curl 7.22
[07:38] <issa> and i need to upadate the curl so how i can do that please ?
[07:38] <Wulf> issa: how is curl related to your webserver?!
[07:38] <Wulf> curl is a client, webserver is a server
[07:39] <antonio_> anyone able to get Handbrake installed on 12.10?
[07:39] <issa> Wulf, curl 7.22.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.22.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.3./1.23 librtmp/2.3
[07:39] <Wulf> antonio_: apt-get install handbrake
[07:39] <dr_willis> antonio_: i think i did.. a few mo back.
[07:39] <issa> Wulf, i need to use a php program who need curl 7.23+
[07:39] <Wulf> issa: gcc-4.7.real (Debian 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2
[07:40] <Wulf> issa: then go and install a newer version
[07:40] <dr_willis> !info curl
[07:41] <issa> i can use the quantal deb on my ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:41] <Wulf> issa: you can at least try
[07:41] <Wulf> issa: if it does not work, recompile it
[07:41] <issa> easy to say
[07:41] <dr_willis> look for a ppa for a newer version
[07:42] <dr_willis> is a better idea. ir look in backports
[07:42] <dr_willis> !backports
[07:43] <issa> ok thanks
[07:43] <issa> i will t ry today, see u later thanks
[07:50] <linse_> anyone uses thunderbird ?
[07:51] <linse_> want to setup mail account manually
[07:51] <Wulf> linse_: I don't. Is it any good?
[07:51] <linse_> Yes its oke
[07:51] <Wulf> well, it certainly sounds more mighty than "mutt"
[07:52] <linse_> But now i want to add another mail domain and have troubles
[07:52] <linse_> You are right,but Iam not a pro
[07:53] <ubuntuw1204> linse_: whats the trouble?
[07:53] <linse_> And deal with another os also
[07:53] <linse_> can not configure out how to setup a mail account manual
[07:53] <Wulf> "edit" / "accounts"?
[07:53] <Wulf> or something like that
[07:53] <linse_> oke slowwwwwly
[07:54] <linse_> no,starts with "new "I guess
[07:55] <linse_> already tryed search engines ,but Iam on 12.04 and not on windw
[07:55] <NOVA_> alsdkjf
[07:56] <tnud> Hi, is the a log for the wired network interfaces? I'm having an issue where my connection seemingly resets for a split second now and then. It's almost like the connection is turned on and off
[08:02] <linse_> had a good idea
[08:03] <linse_> and could setup something
[08:08] <helmut_> hi
[08:10] <silv3r_m00n> why netbook got ethernet, wifi, usb ports, on windows xp, I put in usb internet stick into usb, and then in network settings clicked "allow other users over network to use the internet connection" so other users over lan (on ethernet port) can use the internet connection, the netbook became a router basically, how can I do this same thing on ubuntu ?
[08:17] <iceroot> !ics | silv3r_m00n
[08:17] <iceroot> tnud: /var/log/syslog
[08:19] <kirthan> hi
[08:19] <silv3r_m00n> iceroot: let me check
[08:19] <Nakakaul> hello!
[08:20] <tnud> RIght, so this is my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1615741/
[08:21] <tnud> When this happens, the IRC bot that I'm running disconnects in a way I can't recover atm. What is this? Can I stop it? Should I stop it?
[08:23] <flintser> use static ip?, tnud
[08:23] <john_doe_jr> Does anyone know why png files won't display on my apache server even though I have the full path to them?
[08:24] <tnud> Is it enough to set that in the router settings flintser, or should I change something in ubuntu too?
[08:24] <kewel> how long should it take nickserv to send me my registration email?
[08:24] <flintser> tnud, in server, use static ip outside dhcp range.
[08:25] <flintser> !interfaces | tnud
[08:25] <flintser> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/interfaces.5.html
[08:27] <iceroot> john_doe_jr: display? apache is not displaying pictures, that is part of the browser
[08:28] <flintser> john_doe_jr: can you paste the part of your html where the png is?
[08:36] <tnud> flintser, is this event triggered even if the new IP is the same?
[08:36] <tnud> as in.. does it restart the adapter?
[08:38] <adam_> hello @ all I've got problems to get a Gamepad running under Ubuntu 12.10. It's the Logitech G13
[08:39] <adam_> i cant get the drivers to run
[08:40] <flintser> tnud service networking restart
[08:40] <flintser> or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:40] <tnud> ?
[08:41] <tnud> Is there a scheldued event to restart the connection?
[08:41] <flintser> it should only restart when told so
[08:41] <flintser> as in service networking restart
[08:43] <tnud> oh, right. Well I guess I'll be checking the syslog when this happens in the future
[08:43] <tnud> It seems to be only affecting this damn irc bot though, so I might just get the creator of it to fix it :P
[08:44] <kepler> could tcpdump and watch the traffic
[08:50] <ketan985> Anyone know alternate of m/monit
[08:51] <yijg> hey
[08:56] <isaias> how can i add a pdf to my sidebar?
[08:56] <isaias> nvm, google :P
[08:57] <qkit> guys, how can i check my dns setting in ubuntu 12.04
[08:59] <JBonline> :-?
[09:01] <klawd> hi! can i get a little help with my audio? i just can't get any sound
[09:02] <JBonline> !ff
[09:02] <JBonline> !ubuntu
[09:02] <JBonline> !mint
[09:02] <JBonline> !kubuntu
[09:03] <klawd> hi! can i get a little help with my audio? i just can't get any sound
[09:04] <isaias> klawd: did you try and update?
[09:04] <klawd> update what?
[09:04] <klawd> my system?
[09:04] <klawd> i'm up to date as far as i can tell
[09:04] <isaias> klawd: System Update
[09:06] <klawd> so yeah, i'm up to date. still no sound
[09:06] <isaias> klawd: open up your Dash Home and check for updates. if not, look for the drivers provided by your sound card's company
[09:06] <roger21> !poweroff
[09:07] <roger21> when i shutdown, should i use poweroff, halt or something else
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> roger21: does "halt" work?
[09:07] <OerHeks> klawd, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[09:08] <roger21> or shutdow... can't test now :o
[09:08] <flintser> "shutdown now" i use that usually
[09:09] <isaias> I use shutdown
[09:09] <klawd> OerHeks: gonna go through that, thanks
[09:11] <klawd> my soundcard shows up in aplay -l twice: as digital and as analog. is it possible that pulseaudio sends the output to the digital but not the analog jack?
[09:11] <flintser> you can choose the output from the sound applet
[09:11] <klawd> "sound applet"?
[09:11] <klawd> i use xfce
[09:12] <flintser> xubuntu? i dont know about that very much
[09:13] <klawd> aaaah nice.
[09:13] <klawd> i found the pulseaudio config gui thingy
[09:13] <klawd> works now :)
[09:14] <flintser> yep thought of that too, i just don't know what to call it in xfce, maybe its applet too
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> can someone please help me setup networking printing from ubuntu 12.04 lts to a windows NT x86
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[09:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i've tried multiple tutorials i can connect to it but when i try to print a test-page it says it's in queue an nothing happens
[09:20] <flintser> correct drivers in ubuntu? my printer needed extra drivers, generic didn't work
[09:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i have printed a test-page from windows and says the driver name and full printer name
[09:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i get confuse when i get deep into stuff
[09:21] <flintser> what printer do you have
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> HP LaserJet 2300 Series PCL 6
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Driver name: UNIDRV.DLL
[09:22] <Wiz_KeeD> Data file: hp23256.gpd Driver version: 6.00 Environment: Windows NT x86
[09:23] <flintser> try to install hplib-gui
[09:23] <Wiz_KeeD> apt-get install hplib-gui?
[09:23] <flintser> it is hplip sorry
[09:23] <flintser> but yes try that
[09:24] <flintser> apt-get install hplip-gui
[09:24] <Wiz_KeeD> well i have all the drivers searched from the internet here when i configure the drivers
[09:24] <Wiz_KeeD> can't i choose one from here?
[09:24] <flintser> where?
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> when i select the printer click forward it automatically searches for drivers
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> i see all manufacturers, go to HP then LaserJET 2300
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> and i see a bunch of them then
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> Series hpcups 3.12.2 pcl2, hpcups
[09:25] <Wiz_KeeD> i get lost here
[09:25] <flintser> if it finds the correct one why not
[09:26] <flintser> i thought you already tried that :)
[09:26] <Wiz_KeeD> i don't know the last one, i got to the model
[09:26] <rslick> do you use use system-config-printer
[09:26] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah but there are multiple drivers for this printer
[09:26] <rslick> ?
[09:26] <gribouille> hi
[09:26] <flintser> select pcl6 one
[09:26] <Giles> Hello, Where can I go to troubleshoot problems with cdparanoia?
[09:26] <Free-Info> Hola Free-Boot-Info
[09:26] <Free-Boot-Info> Hola, que quieres?
[09:26] <Free-Info> Pollas Free-Boot-Info
[09:26] <Free-Boot-Info> Lo siento, solo tengo XoXo, te sirve?
[09:26] <Free-Info> No Free-Boot-Info
[09:26] <Free-Boot-Info> Entonces; Adios! :)
[09:26] <Free-Info> Adios Free-Boot-Info
[09:26] <FloodBot1> Free-Info: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <gribouille> I'm looking for a program that lists the id3 version 2.4 tags
[09:27] <Free-Info> sorry, a test only
[09:27] <Free-Info> :D
[09:27] <Wiz_KeeD> no pcl6 here flintser
[09:27] <rslick> wiz esti ro?
[09:27] <Wiz_KeeD> da, de ce?
[09:27] <rslick> abia am instalat network printer
[09:28] <flintser> hmm i get a little confused now too... what do you have there?
[09:28] <Ben64> Free-Info: don't do that stuff here
[09:28] <rslick> cu system-config-printer
[09:28] <Free-Info> ok ;)
[09:29] <Wiz_KeeD> there are a few
[09:29] <flintser> but what
[09:30] <Wiz_KeeD> i used the recommended one and i got Idle - Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[09:30] <riqdiiz> Hi all .can a compaq p3 use a 12volts dc car battery?
[09:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't copy paste and typing would take a lot, nothing with pcl6
[09:31] <flintser> well that error does not indicate driver problem
[09:31] <flintser> rather in your networking
[09:32] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't show up so far...damn
[09:33] <Wiz_KeeD> this is a loosing battle, i can't do it
[09:33] <daincredibleholg> hi
[09:34] <daincredibleholg> I'm trying to write a upstart config for a tomcat, the template I am using is from here: https://gist.github.com/witscher/2924017, i just add an additional var CATALINA_BASE and this is the problem, this is not recognized. has anybody experiences with this?
[09:37] <gribouille> I'm looking for a program that lists the id3 version 2.4 tags of an MP3 file
[09:37] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: losing*
[09:37] <histo> gribouille: have you tried searching the software center?
[09:38] <gribouille> no
[09:38] <histo> gribouille: searching for mp3 tag maybe a good start
[09:38] <Wiz_KeeD> It says Idle - Rendering completed
[09:38] <histo> or id3
[09:38] <Wiz_KeeD> yet nothing happened
[09:38] <jn98> #konos
[09:38] <Ben64> jn98: no
[09:39] <histo> riqdiiz: yes but it's offtopic
[09:40] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: what are you trying to do?
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> histo, network printing from ubuntu 12.04 lts 32 bit to windows NT x86 printer
[09:42] <riqdiiz> I thi  using a 12volts dc car battery?
[09:42] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: are you using cups?
[09:42] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: there is a driver for yoru printer built in.
[09:42] <Ben64> riqdiiz: we can't help you with that, sorry
[09:42] <histo> riqdiiz: yes you can power a computer with a 12v car battery.
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah i think it's something related to cups histo
[09:43] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: Which cups driver are you using?
[09:43] <histo> !cups | Wiz_KeeD
[09:45] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i find out histo ?
[09:45] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: How do you find out what?
[09:45] <duanedesign> Wiz_KeeD:  Command History
[09:46] <duanedesign> ?
[09:46] <Wiz_KeeD> the cups driver
[09:46] <Wiz_KeeD> duanedesign?
[09:46] <melty> lol
[09:48] <duanedesign> Wiz_KeeD: what printer?
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> HP LaserJet 2300 Series PCL 6 duanedesign
[09:48] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: if you get "Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME" you should check the connection/printer-name in cups setting again
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> TakeItEZ, how do i do that?
[09:48] <duanedesign> their is the package  -  http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/printer-driver-gutenprint
[09:48] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: follow the directions from cups
[09:49] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: from ubottu sorry
[09:49] <histo> !cups > Wiz_KeeD
[09:49] <duanedesign> Wiz_KeeD: according to http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php   that printer is supported, i think, by that driver
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> so i run that deb duanedesign ?
[09:50] <TakeItEZ> best choice usually is hpijs/hplip driver for HP printers
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Says here a later version is already installed
[09:50] <duanedesign> what version of Ubuntu ?
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> 12.04 LTS 32bit
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I think teamviewer would be the best choice in this kind of problem lol
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll add it again, maybe send a screenshot
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Add new printer -> Network Printer -> Find Network Printer -> Host 10.1.0.3 -> Find ... Searching ...
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Found two printers
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Windows Printer Via SAMBA -> Select HP laserjet -> Forward
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Searching for drivers...Select printer from database / Provide PPD file / Search for a printer driver to download
[09:55] <Wiz_KeeD> Now what? :))
[09:55] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: from database
[09:55] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes sir...HP
[09:55] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: manuf HP - printer "laserjet 2300"
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> It's just selectboxes
[09:56] <histo> Wiz_KeeD: select your model hp laswerjet 2300
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> so i got HP, forward and i get models
[09:56] <histo> !manual | Wiz_KeeD
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> LaserJet 2300
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> And i have 11 drivers
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: in the driver-selection, is there any hplip/hpijs "recommended" driver shown?
[09:57] <Wiz_KeeD> only one saying HP LaserJET 2300 - CUPS + Gutenprint v5.2.8-pre1[en]
[09:57] <Wiz_KeeD> TakeItEZ, there is one hpijs pcl3, 3.12.2[en]
[09:57] <Ben64> so its physically connected to the windows computer and youwant to print over the network from the ubuntu computer?
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> yes Ben64 that is correct
[09:58] <Ben64> are you able to print from a different computer over the network?
[09:58] <flintser> got an idea, is windows sharing correctly configured and are the computers on same workgroup
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> yes, from a windows configured one
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i check my workgroup in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Wiz_KeeD> Now what :-s
[09:59] <flintser> if you want gui install system-config-samba
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> not really
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> so which driver should i pick...
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> Print test page queue 17 Printer state IDle and nothing
[10:02] <ExpressAM> ñâÿòàÿ êîðîâà
[10:03] <ZDroid> Hi!
[10:03] <ExpressAM> hi
[10:03] <ZDroid> How to install KDE 4.10 on precise?
[10:03] <Ben64> ExpressAM: this channel is for english only, and you might want to get a client that supports proper encoding if you wish to use your native language.
[10:03] <ZDroid> i have unity, but want to try other
[10:03] <ExpressAM> Ben64, okay. np
[10:04] <DJones> !kde | ZDroid (Not sure which is the current version), but this should help,
[10:04] <ZDroid> ok, but without kubuntu-desktop?
[10:05] <ZDroid> kde-full or kde-plasma-desktop?
[10:05] <ZDroid> What to chose?
[10:05] <Ben64> ZDroid: kde
[10:05] <phoenixsampras> morning, Unity is going down....
[10:05] <phoenixsampras> dont like kde
[10:05] <raddy> Is it possible to start a native installation through wubi?
[10:06] <ZDroid> yes
[10:06] <raddy> how
[10:06] <ZDroid> you can chose your lang
[10:06] <duanedesign> Wiz_KeeD:  looks like this driver might support your printer http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[10:06] <Ben64> oh, kde package doesn't exist anymore
[10:07] <ZDroid> raddy: Were you looked to some chose menus?
[10:07] <OerHeks> raddy no. native you should start a native install tru dvd or usb
[10:07] <ZDroid> lol
[10:07] <Ben64> ZDroid: kde-plasma-desktop
[10:07] <ZDroid> OerHeks: that changed? o.O
[10:07] <raddy> okk
[10:07] <ZDroid> i installed U11.10 on 1 computer with serbian
[10:07] <OerHeks> ZDroid, it was never possible to start a native install tru wubi
[10:07] <ZDroid> xD
[10:07] <ZDroid> lol
[10:08] <histo> !notunity | ZDroid
[10:08] <ZDroid> i know histo
[10:12] <Guest19085> !nick vincent81
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> Guest19085  it's /nick not !nick
[10:13] <Vincent81> thanks i've not used irc for a long time
[10:14] <vnc786> i have created pendrive multiboot using iso from (pendrivelinux.com) i m able to boot ubuntu12.04 64bit but i am not able to boot systemrescuecd it gives "files not found" and "you need to load kernel first" i have got this http://askubuntu.com/questions/141940/how-to-boot-live-iso-images thread but how do i do on usb
[10:15] <jakey1> I have 2 computer with ubuntu 12.04, how do I ssh between them?
[10:15] <DJones> !ssh | jakey1
[10:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok now step 2
[10:16] <DJones> jakey1: You need to ssh server on the machine you want to ssh to, then on the client run ssh ip-address-of-machine-you-want-to-ssh-to
[10:16] <jakey1> thanls
[10:17] <jakey1> thanks
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> I found out the printer had some sort of error and if i manually confirmed on it it printed the 20 test pages i sent
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> but every time i try to pring something i have to go there and confirm it by button
[10:17] <DJones> jakey1: Have a look at the link that ubottu gave, thats a good starting point for ssh
[10:17] <DJones> Pretty much walks you through how to get it set up
[10:17] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: try using a different driver then
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> So it's the driver still
[10:17] <Wiz_KeeD> yet work when i print out
[10:18] <pybe> Having an issue with unmet deps http://pastebin.com/KsKXtujc
[10:18] <pybe> any ideas?
[10:20] <Ben64> pybe: check line 9?
[10:21] <pybe> lmao how the hell did i miss that
[10:23] <pybe> Ben64: thanks /boot is full
[10:23] <pybe> doh
[10:24] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get autoclean should fix that
[10:24] <Wiz_KeeD> TakeItEZ, using samba means it's trying to print through the windows server and i should try to do it directly?
[10:25] <graydon> hey is anyone here familiar with lxde or similiar guis?
[10:26] <datsmoida> i use gnome classic with no effects
[10:26] <datsmoida> anyone know how to address the issue of a program running as a service in ubuntu
[10:26] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: you might connect the printer directly and test, but i'd first try a different driver
[10:26] <datsmoida> and then i'm running a 2nd instance of it ..
[10:26] <datsmoida> and how to restart the 2nd instance ?
[10:26] <datsmoida> the program is TOR
[10:27] <DJones> graydon: It might be worth asking in #lubuntu, a lot of people probably use lxde here, but Lubuntu uses lxde by default
[10:27] <graydon> cool. so im on a netbook, so the standard ubuntu 12 gui is too heavy for my system. i switched to lxde and its very fast now, but i want to be able to search my applications like you can with the unity toolbar
[10:28] <graydon> is that possible?
[10:28] <dr_willis> hmm. unity ran ok on my 2 netbooks
[10:28] <Vincent81> i'm on a netboot and run kde frine
[10:28] <Vincent81> fine*
[10:28] <graydon> well mine is only 1gb ram
[10:29] <Vincent81> mine aswell with atom 1,66Ghz
[10:29] <dr_willis> same here. ;-)
[10:29] <dr_willis> or i may be thunking of my older netbook. i got 2
[10:29] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok it tries to use Tray 1 instead of Tray 2, that's all there it other than that it's golden
[10:30] <Vincent81> i wich way is it slow
[10:30] <dr_willis> there may be some docks with a dash like feature
[10:30] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: check printer-settings, you might change the tray-setting there
[10:30] <graydon> dunno why mine was so laggy, but it was unbearable. anyways can i add some kind fo plugin to search applications, or possibly add the unity toolbar to a different gui like lxde??
[10:30] <dr_willis> dident notice mine being slow.. but uts been months sunce i last used ir
[10:31] <Wiz_KeeD> How come the windows stations can use tray 2 automatically?
[10:31] <jakey1> How do you ssh in the terminal into another ubuntu machine, it s one line of code i remember
[10:31] <TakeItEZ> Wiz_KeeD: ask hp/ms
[10:32] <dr_willis> jakey1:  ssh server
[10:32] <TakeItEZ> jakey1: ssh user@hostname
[10:32] <brotherBox> jakey1, ssh user@host
[10:32] <jakey1> thanks
[10:32] <dr_willis> lwarn     ssh --help
[10:33] <dr_willis> learn.. ;-)
[10:33] <jakey1> haha yes
[10:33] <dr_willis> mostcommands --help
[10:33] <pybe> ok so fixed the full /boot issue but still left with unmet dep http://pastebin.com/Rijez48t tried autoremove and -f install but not getting anywhere
[10:33] <Ben64> also "man <command>
[10:34] <Ben64> ignore that quote
[10:35] <Ben64> pybe: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep -i linux-image"
[10:36] <graydon> so does anyone know if i can add unity dashboard to different guis?
[10:37] <graydon> .j lxde
[10:38] <simon_q> 12:04 and nsupdate automatically updateing dns anybody ?
[10:38] <pybe> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/DV8cDeq5
[10:40] <Ben64> pybe: try removing and reinstalling linux-image-server
[10:41] <dr_willis> graydon: doubtfull. its a compiz plugin
[10:41] <dr_willis> vnc786:  i just use the multiboot tools at the pendrive linux site
[10:42] <graydon> thanks dr willis
[10:43] <jithu> hii
[10:43] <pybe> Ben64: can you reinstall the meta package using dpkg? becasue apt is non functioning because of the unmetdeps
[10:43] <KeyboardNotFound> are you suggest to use antivirus on linux ?
[10:44] <vlt> KeyboardNotFound: Usually not.
[10:44] <dr_willis> i thought lubuntu had some netbook interface with like a dash ui.. never used it however..
[10:44] <karolina612> ..a,,b
[10:44] <vnc786> dr_willis: do u know how do i modify grub entry in order to systemrescuecd i have got one thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/141940/how-to-boot-live-iso-images can u look at this ..
[10:44] <Ben64> pybe: dpkg -r linux-image-server
[10:45] <jakey1> What happens if the computer are not on the same network?
[10:45] <jakey1> how do i ssh then
[10:45] <Ben64> same way
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> jakey1: ssh user@host
[10:45] <dr_willis> vnc786: you can setup grub to boot iso files. each distro needs different options.
[10:45] <jithu> can anyone suggest webcam effect software?
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> jakey1: it makes no difference where the 2nd machine is, you just need a network-route to it
[10:46] <jakey1> cool
[10:46] <pybe> Ben64: ok but what then?
[10:46] <TheGrey> o/ is it basically impossible to run a speaker test on a headphones? I keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/sqnF35J8
[10:47] <Ben64> pybe: then apt shouldn't complain anymore and you can finish installing the kernel(s) you want
[10:47] <jrib> jithu: cheese
[10:47] <jithu> how can i install cheese?
[10:47] <jakey1> whats the program i need to view things remotley x11?
[10:47] <vnc786> dr_willis: so can u tell me how do i do update-grub because i m usb
[10:47] <Yizi> i want to add a new user to ubuntu server and assign /var/www/domain.com as their home directory
[10:47] <DJones> jithu: sudo apt-get install cheese
[10:48] <jithu> k jones
[10:48] <pybe> Ben64: no, still the same, still cant use apt, -f install and autoremove still fail
[10:48] <jrib> Yizi: use adduser (read its man page).  What is your question?
[10:48] <Ben64> Yizi: you should use apache conf to have the domain hosted in their normal /home/<user> directory
[10:48] <onon> did someone here know the tittyfuck putty mod?
[10:48] <Yizi> so /var/www is not a good place?
[10:49] <Yizi> I assumed it would be more secure
[10:49] <jakey1> whats the program i need to view things remotley in the terminal?
[10:49] <Yizi> @jakey1 puty
[10:49] <Yizi> putty
[10:49] <jrib> onon: this channel is for ubuntu support, mind your language here
[10:49] <jakey1> not putty
[10:49] <Ben64> Yizi: nah, its kind of strange to have a home directory in /var
[10:49] <onon> oh sry
[10:49] <jakey1> its x11 or something
[10:49] <Yizi> thanks ben
[10:50] <Ben64> jakey1: vnc? x forwarding?
[10:50] <melty> lol
[10:50] <dr_willis> !ssh | jakey1
[10:50] <jithu> which is the best dowloader like idm in windows?
[10:51] <Ben64> !best | jithu
[10:52] <jithu> which downloader have multithreading?
[10:52] <Ben64> aria2c
[10:52] <Ben64> probably others too
[10:53] <AppleJuice> jithu, A download program does not need to be multithreaded to be good.
[10:54] <jithu> i want to increase downloading speed
[10:54] <onon> use putty
[10:54] <jithu> #ubuntu-bots
[10:55] <jithu> quit
[10:56] <vlt> Hello. I’m trying out Ubuntu running the install ISO from an USB drive. Perfectly fine. Is there a way to save the settings and changes like (conf) files in ~/ or installed programms to an or the very same USB stick to have them at the next boot?
[10:56] <Vincent81> jakay1 try searching nx server of freenx
[10:57] <KeyboardNotFound> is ubottu is opensource bot ?
[10:58] <AppleJuice> vlt, Hi. Yes, I used NetBootin to make a live usb disk and checked the "Persistence" option so any changes to the live cd are kept.
[10:58] <Vincent81> vlt i think is't saved for u
[10:58] <sini> how do i into le haxing?
[10:59] <Boakamxe> you le leet into xDDD 9f;ag ubuntu
[11:00] <onon> i like le ubuntu
[11:00] <Boakamxe> le ubuntu is leet xDDDD
[11:00] <AppleJuice> vlt, The program is called unetbootin. I see now there is a additional standart program on my ubuntu pc which provides the same feature (persistence)
[11:00]  * sini le hacks away
[11:01] <Boakamxe> Freenode, AKA "reddit, the IRC network"
[11:01] <Boakamxe> Is full of normal hipsters
[11:01] <Ben64> Boakamxe: stop
[11:02] <Yizi> need a expert advice on web server (ubuntu) should i host the virtual hosts in /var/www or home/username ?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> Yizi  #ubuntu-server
[11:04] <Jpmh> I run a number of public access computers in coffee shops using xubuntu - I use really old/cheap hardware  = what is the difference that I would see if I changed to lubuntu?
[11:05] <vlt> AppleJuice, Vincent81: Thanks
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Jpmh  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[11:06] <vlt> How do I switch between multiple instances of the same programm (gnome-terminal in this case)?
[11:07] <vlt> (Alt+Tab doesn’t do what I expected)
[11:07] <odyssey4me> ctrl-tab ?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> vlt  alt-esc ?
[11:07] <vlt> odyssey4me: Nope
[11:07] <vlt> odyssey4me: negative
[11:07] <vlt> MonkeyDust: ^
[11:08] <Jpmh> MonkeyDust: ty - what I really meant was - what will I notice different as an admin/maintained and what if anything will my users who use ONLY firefox notice
[11:09] <jakey1> it was ssh yourname@example.com -X
[11:09] <Ben64> Jpmh: firefox works the same on every desktop environment
[11:09] <jrib> Jpmh: might be lighter ram-wise. Set it up on one of your computers and see
[11:10] <Jpmh> Ben64: ty
[11:11] <Jpmh> jrib: is it just the desktop that makes it lighter or is there more?
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> Jpmh  try a live cd or usb to experience the difference
[11:12] <jrib> Jpmh: the default programs just use less ram.  It's just openbox with some theming I believe
[11:13] <root_> q
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> !rootirc | root_
[11:14] <justmmt> hi :o)
[11:14] <yaraju> hi :o)
[11:14] <yaraju> Anyone here familiar with unity, 12.04 and Alacarte?
[11:14] <ejcweb> Recently I've noticed the fan on my laptop running noisily all the time in Ubuntu. Can anyone suggest how I can go about diagnosing this?
[11:15] <justmmt> how to search a file in a folder but not recursively. do not care abour my grammar please
[11:15] <Jpmh> so guys will the wifi drivers that are in ubuntu and xubuntu be available for my coffee shops where I need to be wifi connected?
[11:15] <xiphi> I require assistance...
[11:15] <DJones> !ask | xiphi
[11:15] <Vincent81> ejcweb try searching lm-sensors
[11:15] <jakey1> is it possible to ssh into a virtual machine on a host?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> jakey1  yes
[11:16] <Vincent81> :D
[11:16] <jakey1> cool
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Jakee`_, of course
[11:16] <yaraju> I just installed 12.04 LTS and despite following a bunch of forums, I find that adding a menu item to Alacarte doesn't make it show up in a Dash search.
[11:16] <jrib> justmmt: you want to search the contents of a single file?
[11:16] <Vincent81> a VM is just another computer
[11:16] <xiphi> How do I make 12.10 faster? It was running fine for the first day or so... Now it's really laggy.
[11:16] <yaraju> (I'm trying to add Eclipse) Does anyone know how I could get this to work?
[11:16] <Boakamxe> Obviously drivers
[11:16] <cfhowlett> xiphi,  speak up and don't spare the details
[11:17] <xiphi> ... Everything lags.
[11:17] <Vincent81> corrupt harddisk
[11:17] <xiphi> I seriously doubt that.
[11:17] <nirvanah> why 11.04 is not LTS
[11:17] <Ben64> ram and swap are full
[11:18] <Ben64> !lts | nirvanah
[11:18] <ggherdov> Hi all. I have the unpleasure of being behind an HTTP proxy, and find myself in the need of adding a repo with "add-apt-repository ppa:(...)" What is the config file where I can tell apt about my proxy? as a side note, I have already successfuly set the proxy at  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy , but apparently it's not enough
[11:18] <floridsdorf> hi
[11:18] <DJones> nirvanah: LTS are released every 2 years, 10.04 followed by 12.04
[11:19] <yaraju> Is there a different place I should ask #unity questions?
[11:19] <vlt> MonkeyDust, odyssey4me: I found out. Hold the Alt key while the terminal icon is highlighted.
[11:20] <jrib> ggherdov: « apt-config -dump » on pastebin
[11:20] <ggherdov> jrib: coming...
[11:20] <jrib> ggherdov: « apt-config dump » on pastebin
[11:21] <vlt> I’m still trying ubuntu from install iso.  How can I make ctrl+alt+l work?
[11:22]  * yaraju heads over to #ubuntu-unity
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> vlt  that's your second keyboard question - are you sure the keyboard is ok?
[11:22] <vlt> MonkeyDust: Yes. The first question was solved too ;-)
[11:23] <justmmt> jrib, yep, and not inside all the folder which are inside
[11:23] <vlt> MonkeyDust: ctrl+alt+l doesn’t work from the shutdown menu either.
[11:23] <ggherdov> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/3XbDFYlVZ3qVQYoWBpl9/ I just removed a couple of passwords.
[11:23] <jrib> justmmt: just "grep search_pattern /path/to/file"
[11:24] <jrib> ggherdov: hmm, that seems ok
[11:25] <jrib> ggherdov: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy try just using http_proxy to see if that at least works.  Then we can try to think more about why apt.conf method isn't working
[11:25] <Ben64> because add-apt-repository is a python script
[11:28] <jrib> ggherdov: what exactly is failing?
[11:28] <ggherdov> jrib: ok thanks. Ben64 yep.
[11:28] <ggherdov> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/4A6ARlKrfBi3UpgMTEVE/
[11:29] <ggherdov> cannot resolve launchpad.
[11:29] <raven> which file contains start commands for user?
[11:29] <jrib> ggherdov: ah. Setting http_proxy is probably enough
[11:30] <ggherdov> jrib: it's already in place. both $http_proxy and $https_proxy have the right value. I use tinyproxy to manage everything.
[11:32] <ggherdov> jrib: i.e. , if I do "curl launchpad.net" , I get the HTML back (code 200 I mean)
[11:32] <jrib> ggherdov: hmm, maybe the python library ignores the http_proxy environment, which is sad :/
[11:32] <sini> i am haxor nao
[11:33] <justmmt> jrib, I meant, it's a file what I search, inside folder00, but I don't want to search inside folder00/otherFolders, just folder00
[11:33] <sini> anyone need haxor
[11:33] <sini> $200 an hour
[11:33] <jrib> justmmt: give the path to the file then
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> sini  wrong channel
[11:33] <ggherdov> jrib: exactly, the bottleneck is urllib2 from python. looking into that. thank you again.
[11:33] <jrib> sini: stop.  Not here please
[11:33] <raven> how to autostart command line tools in usermode on text systems?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> sini  and it's hax0r, not haxor
[11:34] <peter__e> greetings, I'm having trouble getting a ZTE MF821D mobile modem to work in Precise, it only appears as a wired connection in nm-applet
[11:34] <jrib> ggherdov: you could work around it if you want.  Just add the ppa directly to your sources.list and then follow the instructions on getting the PPAs key (they're on launchpad).  Hopefully you can fetch the key fine through the proxy...
[11:34] <ggherdov> jrib: that's good news, thanks.
[11:34] <jrib> raven: give an example
[11:34] <jrib> ggherdov: see here: https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/
[11:35] <beboj> hi, I hvae issue my beep command dosent work
[11:35] <melty> lol
[11:35] <vlt> Any idea how to make ctrl+alt+l work in tryout mode?
[11:35] <ggherdov> jrib: ok
[11:36] <sini> sosry didn't mean anithax
[11:36] <jrib> ggherdov: and here are the instructions https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware (just follow the old instructions for pre 9.10 to avoid using add-apt-repository).  I'd also suggest filing a bug if you determine that it's ignoring http_proxy
[11:36] <ggherdov> jrib: great
[11:37] <lpanebr> hello, sorry if this is not the place for this. I am on a notebook with dual graphics Intel(integrated) and Radeon HD 6400M. I have ubuntu 12.04 installed . After the last xorg system update I am stuck in 2D graphics mode in unity.  Any idea how should I approach this?
[11:37] <sini> i just rly need haxjob ya know?
[11:37] <sini> my mom stopped giving me lunch money
[11:38] <Boakamxe> Yup, Reddit, the IRC network
[11:38] <dr_willis> Meow?
[11:38] <melty> lol
[11:38] <peter__e> lpanebr, can you still access AMD Catalyst Control Center?
[11:39] <jrib> ggherdov: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/53146/how-do-i-get-add-apt-repository-to-work-through-a-proxy It seems like it's because sudo sanitizes your environment and removes the proxy.  You can try "sudo -i", then set http_proxy, then try add-apt-repository (no sudo)
[11:39] <lpanebr> peter__e: I do not have it installed. It never worked. I was happy using the integradet Intel driver.
[11:39] <ggherdov> jrib: uhm... checking
[11:40] <jrib> ggherdov: and also see bug #516032 :)
[11:40] <ggherdov> jrib: :-)
[11:40] <vnc786> how to run update-grub2 on usb ?
[11:40] <peter__e> lpanebr, ok...  know for sure that at least the latest stable release of Catalyst supports GPU switching
[11:41] <peter__e> lpanebr, so that rules out your Radeon at least
[11:41] <peter__e> lpanebr, and I have very little experience with intel's stuff, sorry
[11:41] <lpanebr> peter__e: yes, I guess it does. I's gotta be something with the Intel integrated..
[11:43] <lpanebr> peter__e: do you recommend installing the catalist?
[11:44] <peter__e> lpanebr, I recommend using what you think is best for you :P  only suggested Catalyst 13.1 because I know it supports GPU switching
[11:44] <nearst> hi ppl
[11:45] <peter__e> lpanebr, if you install Catalyst manually you have to be careful with some stuff... like checking for kernel and xorg updates, because you'd need to uninstall catalyst frt, install the upgrade and reinstall catalyst everytime
[11:46] <peter__e> frt -> first*
[11:46] <nearst> whats up?
[11:46] <lpanebr> peter__e: hmm..  thanks for the tip
[11:46] <beboj> how  beep command get to work?
[11:47] <nearst> beep?
[11:47] <peter__e> lpanebr, np... also there is a dkms package you might need to install too for HDMI to work
[11:47] <dr_willis> beboj:  which beep command? the 'pc speaker module' is normally blacklisted and under X apps that 'beep' normally use the pulse audio system beep
[11:48] <lpanebr> peter__e: do you know what is that package?
[11:50] <peter__e> lpanebr, hang on
[11:51] <nearst> why my sudo lshw -C video output is *-display UNCLAIMED ?
[11:52] <roger21> boboj, yeah you need to add a module, add pcspkr in /etc/modules
[11:52] <peter__e> lpanebr, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?75650-AMD-Catalyst-12-11-Beta-11-Released-For-Linux&p=299825#post299825
[11:53] <dr_willis> beboj:  then theres some old X bugs that kept some system beeps from working even if the pc spkr was not blacklisted.. :) Then ya got systems like the one om on now.. it dosent even have a pc speaker as far as  i can tell.
[11:53] <beboj> yeah I see :)
[11:54] <beboj> its only for mutt to get work notifier
[11:54] <nearst> brb
[12:03] <yermandu> Good mornig linuxers
[12:03] <knoppix> :-)
[12:03] <lekremyelsew> I installed a Wireless Access Point to my home network and it works fine, but it is not password protected. How do I change the password on it?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> yermandu, greetings
[12:04] <nibbler> lekremyelsew: log in to its IP/Webpage and use the manu
[12:05] <yermandu> Let me know, its possible using free ways watch vimeo, youtube, html5 videos in browser like firefox
[12:05] <yermandu> i mean not using adobe flash
[12:05] <lekremyelsew> nibbler, it's a separate device from my router, so I don't know how to find the web interface
[12:05] <cfhowlett> yermandu, yes that's what html5 was meant to enable
[12:06] <dr_willis> thers flash downloader plugins yermandu  you an use to download the videos.. then watch with somthing else.. if needed
[12:07] <yermandu> cfhowlett, i haved tryed six month ago but no success, now i will reformat my pc but i really want try use free plugins
[12:07] <cfhowlett> yermandu, do you have the restricted extras?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> yermandu, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:08] <yermandu> cfhowlett, no i havent add no one repository, hmmm let try, this take a long while
[12:09] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:09] <cfhowlett> yermandu, that should fix most of your multimedia codec issues ...
[12:10] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, thnx
[12:10] <beads> quick question, semi related. i recently switched from windows to ubuntu. i noticed right when i switched, that i was masturbating more frequently, and it even resulted in chafing. my question is, is there any way to heal the now open sores on my phallus?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> beads, stupid is as stupid does.  Now bugger off and take your nonsense with you.
[12:11] <Ben64> i guess tonight is troll night?
[12:11] <Boakamxe> It's worse, he started to have a waifu
[12:11]  * cfhowlett is sorry if I was a bit snappish, but it's just a little much to endure such criminal stupidity at times.  Probably why I've never been invited to be a channel mod ...
[12:14] <Boakamxe> Trolling is an art, m8
[12:15] <Boakamxe> I recently switched from windows to ubuntu, I noticed that I started watching anime more often and more frequently visited reddit and 9gag, how can I aquire battletoads to fix my problem?
[12:15] <sini> how make waifu in linux
[12:15] <sini> i cant into python
[12:16] <Boakamxe> import waifu
[12:16] <DJones> Boakamxe: Stop that
[12:16] <ry|an> i reckon you need to use perl
[12:16] <CookieM> maybe they are ms-sent trolls?
[12:17] <ry|an> python is for virgin nerds who cant have waifus
[12:17] <brotherBox> :(
[12:17] <PrincessLuna> Hi, my teacher saw Kubuntu running on my computer and asked me to install it on his ultrabook. I attempted to boot a liveusb, the computer froze and I powered off. Now the computer won't switch on. The computer is a Samsung 530U3C. Is this related. I thought hardware cannot be damaged using software apart from perhaps overclocking.
[12:18] <Boakamxe> You need to import warfrogs.py
[12:18] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Theres a known bug i saw mentioned the other day with some Samsung Laptops.. but i dident catch the details
[12:18] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, overclocking would definitely crash it.  software?  unlikely but not impossible
[12:18] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, it was UEFI but there was a patch?
[12:19] <dr_willis> i dont recall..
[12:19] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, possible UEFI would cause this failure
[12:19] <DJones> PrincessLuna: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html
[12:19] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: I does not start at all, and yes it is a UEFI system
[12:19] <dr_willis> I thought there was some Possible Bricking of some make laptops by the install process..
[12:19] <dr_willis> ;) thats it.
[12:20] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, dr_willis yep on the newer UEFI equipped laptops
[12:20] <sini> I tried deleting system32 but my computer is still alive?
[12:20] <sini> how do i kill it in linux?
[12:20] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: DJones  Anyway to get it working again?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> sini, system32 is  a windows folder.  Why are you killing it with linux?
[12:21] <Ben64> cfhowlett: ignore that, it's just a troll
[12:21] <sini> id cfholett thats my problem
[12:21] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, Samsung + uefi + brick + linux are the search terms...
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Ben64, thanx
[12:21] <DJones> PrincessLuna: Sorry, I don't know about fixing, I just remembered the article
[12:22] <ivotkl> Hello everyone.
[12:22] <cfhowlett> ivotkl, greetings
[12:24] <PrincessLuna> Since it isn't my laptop, it kind of looks like I bricked it. And myself I'm in a tight spot saving for university so I really want to avoid having to pay for the damage. I really didn't expect such a bug could exist
[12:24] <eightiesk> I have a GTX650 with a 32 inch sony tv with hdmi, the screen res is too large for the screen and it stays that way no matter what i do, how can i configure this to work properly?
[12:24] <dr_willis> PrincessLuna:   all we really know about it is at the urls given above.
[12:24] <Ben64> eightiesk: define "too large"
[12:25] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, if it's any comfort, this was/is considered a bug of "nuclear" importance.  a fix is/was forthcoming
[12:25] <eightiesk> Ben64: the panels are offscreen
[12:26] <Ben64> eightiesk: do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[12:26] <eightiesk> I do
[12:26] <DJones> PrincessLuna: Just searching, as far as I can see, the laptops have to be sent back to samsung for a warranty repair
[12:26] <Ben64> eightiesk: nvidia-settings should let you fix that then
[12:27] <eightiesk> where though, all the settings I've tried do the same
[12:27] <eightiesk> weither i do 720 or 1080
[12:27] <eightiesk> same results
[12:27] <Ben64> eightiesk: could be the tv's overscan setting
[12:28] <PrincessLuna> DJones: It isn't my laptop so I don't really know. Maybe I should just insist that it is defective hardware and Ubuntu cannot brick a laptop. But then if he tries to install Ubuntu himself I'm in trouble
[12:28] <Arty-on-knoppix> ... or when he reads same articles... :-)
[12:28] <eightiesk> Ben64: overscan?
[12:29] <Boakamxe> get a monitor
[12:29] <Ben64> eightiesk: yeah, kind of out of the scope of this channel but hdtvs usually have overscan by a few percent. there should be a setting somewhere to turn it off
[12:29] <Boakamxe> Or use 1360x768 until you get one
[12:29] <Berat> selam
[12:30] <eightiesk> Boakamxe: the limitation is I do not have the room for a tv and a moniter
[12:30] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, give him a loaner, wait for the fix and repair and return at a later date.
[12:30] <Boakamxe> Mount the TV behind the monitor
[12:30] <Boakamxe> You can thank me later
[12:31] <eightiesk> Where is the xconf file?
[12:31] <Ben64> usually there isn't one
[12:31] <eightiesk> >.>
[12:31] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: And how would I repair it?
[12:31] <eightiesk> then what does x read now ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, as I said, there is no fix for this yet that I can see.  Apparently that is still weeks away.  If and when, download the new fix, inject and, hopefully, boot as normal ...
[12:33] <jakey1> how do i port forward on ubuntu
[12:33] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, or go the route of so many others and return the device to samsung for a replacement
[12:33] <mround> hello
[12:33] <eightiesk> Do you thing a dvi to hdmi converter would be better?
[12:33] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Besides I only own one computer; an old netbook. I'm not in the best financial situation. But if there is no alternative I have to compensate
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !port
[12:34] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna,  I feel for you. Best to show him the documented cases and help him to submit his return to samsung perhaps?
[12:34] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: The problem is the computer does not even start, no fans or anything so how would one update its firmware
[12:34] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, that I don't know ...
[12:34] <ivotkl> Thank you cfhowlett. I'm trying to recover a drive, I've used testdisk but MarkPhelps @ ubuntuforums advised me he usually uses windows programs for windows drives. You can find more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112074 or here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/hardware-peripherals/194674-stormy-hdd-drive-ntfs-fat16-lba-not-working.html.
[12:34] <mround> When using maas and juju an I right in saying that each charm deployed to a node will mean that node will only have a single machine on?
[12:34] <Boakamxe> Is the boot order correct?
[12:35] <Boakamxe> Are you booting from the flash drive?
[12:35] <DJones> PrincessLuna: As far as I can see, the only solution is to return the laptop to Samsung for repair
[12:35] <guang_> can ubuntu10.04 be used to share local network with my android phone?
[12:35] <guang_> i have tried many times by google.but it seems does not work
[12:36] <AxForest> is your phone rooted?
[12:36] <guang_> no
[12:36] <SwedeMike> guang_: when you say local network, do you mean it has Internet connectivity and you want to use that on the phone?
[12:36] <AxForest> hm idk with root u can use samba
[12:36] <ivotkl> I'm not sure, what do you mean Boakamxe?
[12:36] <Boakamxe> ?
[12:37] <SwedeMike> guang_: if that is what you want, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[12:37] <guang_> SwedeMike:yes.
[12:38] <Ben64> eightiesk: you should check the overscan setting first
[12:39] <ivotkl> I'm back, I installed XChat here too as web interface was not very "eye-friendly"
[12:39] <PrincessLuna> If the samsung brick issue has been there for so long, they should have put a banner on the *buntu websites!
[12:39] <eightiesk> Ben64:  there is no settign I just checked
[12:39] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, it's not just ubuntu, but you're right...
[12:40] <ironhalik> is thee any way to check time since laptop is on battery? Since AC was disconnected?
[12:40] <Ben64> eightiesk: what tv?
[12:40] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: what model
[12:40] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, and samsung is not totally faultless as they neglected to send out an advisory
[12:40] <eightiesk> KDL-32L4000
[12:40] <eightiesk> sony
[12:40] <PrincessLuna> Ben64: Samsung 530U3C
[12:41] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, ben64 the exact model that was first publicly reported with the issue
[12:41] <cfhowlett> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html
[12:42] <Anonymous_> Wonseok
[12:42] <Ben64> eightiesk: on sony tvs its called "full pixel"
[12:43] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: :(
[12:43]  * PrincessLuna is never installing Ubuntu for someone again without doing research.
[12:43] <eightiesk> Maybe time for a New tv I fear
[12:43] <eightiesk> or to start using VGA
[12:43] <Ben64> eightiesk:  Menu, Picture & Display, Display Area, Full Pixel.
[12:43] <eightiesk> without sound...
[12:44] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: i hate how all the manufacturers and microsoft swore up and down that secureboot and uefi won't cause any problems
[12:44] <eightiesk> It doesn't have that option...
[12:45] <eightiesk> How would I set a custom resolution?
[12:45] <brotherBox> Install gentoo
[12:46] <armhn> (join #ubuntuusers
[12:46] <AppleJuice> Well, thats custom alright.
[12:46] <armhn> ups :)
[12:47] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: PrincessLuna https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#QuantalQuetzal.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Installation
[12:47] <eightiesk> !nvidia
[12:47] <IdleOne> PrincessLuna: Good idea to do that research in the future :)
[12:47] <Ben64> eightiesk: theres a harder way to change overscan from the computer http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=106650.0
[12:48] <PrincessLuna> IdleOne: All the same, for something that important, a website banner would be more helpful though it would damage the reputation of ubuntu, linux and samsung
[12:49] <IdleOne> PrincessLuna: this is probably a better discussion for #ubuntu-discuss
[12:49] <AlanBell> PrincessLuna: it is in the release notes, which is the right place for it, but yes, this does damage the reputation of Samsung and I think they are doing returns on it
[12:56] <guang_> SwedeMike:the article does not fit my me.i connect to the internet by ppp0,but i want to my android phone to connect the internet.
[13:01] <David_BT5> Hello Guys. any one here ?
[13:02] <odyssey4me> David, yes - most lurk and pop in once in a while
[13:02] <SwedeMike> guang_: why do you feel it doesn't apply to you?
[13:03] <BlouBlou> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04; Do LTS updates usually work fine? Or will I have to reinstall my whole OS?
[13:03] <David_BT5> oh hey Guys ^_^
[13:03] <David_BT5> @Blou : i updated my ubuntu to 12.04 , and it worked fine. there's no need to install a new OS
[13:04] <narcos> Hi all. Does anyone have experience setting up a SSL based IRC server?
[13:04] <guang_> SwedeMike:it assume that the internet is connected by wireless card,not eth0.
[13:04] <setra> Hi, can somebody help me with having 2 networks joined on a ubuntu machine as router?
[13:04] <escott> !ics | setra
[13:04] <SwedeMike> guang_: it has a part where it describes internet connected to eth0, ppp0 etc as well.
[13:04] <BlouBlou> David_BT5: Great.
[13:05] <David_BT5> there's a way to Do it . airbase-ng ...it works ..no ?
[13:07] <datsmoida> can you run your own voip setup on a vps ?
[13:07] <BlackNarcissus> Hey all. I'm trying to diagnose a Toshiba Satellite P200 latop with 12.04 and latest kernel installed. It shuts down randomly. I suspect a overheating/power management issue but some help would be appreciated. It has an ATi radeon card with proprietary fglrx installed. Thanks.
[13:08] <David_BT5> Hello BlackNarcissus :
[13:08] <David_BT5> I have had the same Problem
[13:08] <David_BT5> but with backtrack 5
[13:08] <David_BT5> i installed the 32x bits version
[13:08] <BlackNarcissus> Hello David_BT5
[13:08] <David_BT5> my computer kept  crashing
[13:09] <David_BT5> and it shuts down randomly.
[13:09] <David_BT5> after my researches , i found that
[13:09] <David_BT5> i had to install the 64x bits version
[13:09] <David_BT5> and not the 32x
[13:09] <David_BT5> another thing
[13:09] <David_BT5> when i also have Ati VGA card
[13:09] <David_BT5> (HP laptop)
[13:09] <chrbo> hi, is there a way to reboot the live-cd without having to press ENTER in the end?
[13:10] <David_BT5> @Chrbo : try to open the terminal and type : reboot. and then ctrl + alt + delete
[13:10] <David_BT5> but i don't find any positive point from running a linux from a live CD
[13:10] <David_BT5> installing it is much much better
[13:10] <David_BT5> and it gives you a great experience.
[13:11] <chrbo> David_BT5: I used ubuntu to install a custom linux, but I am not where the computer is right now.
[13:11] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: So you're saying installing a 64bits distro could solve this ?
[13:11] <chrbo> David_BT5: I need to ensure that the computer is actually booting without anyone touching it
[13:11] <David_BT5> black : yes. ( the same problem happened with me )
[13:12] <David_BT5> @chrbo :
[13:12] <David_BT5> when you install it
[13:12] <David_BT5> it won't ask you for anything anymore/
[13:12] <David_BT5> (remove the CD and Click on enter)
[13:12] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: Ok, I will look into it. Thanks.
[13:12] <David_BT5> besides, you will be able to save everything.
[13:12] <David_BT5> @black : are you running any additional Programs on your Dist. ?
[13:13] <chrbo> David_BT5: I used the livedisk to install gentoo. now I am 50km away and I want to boot into that installation, so I want to skip the warning about removing the cd. it's a notebook drive, so it won't pull the cd back in
[13:13] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: It's a default install.
[13:13] <AppleJuice> chrbo, Who put the live cd in?
[13:13] <David_BT5> @Chrbo : ubuntu 12.02 TS right ?
[13:14] <chrbo> AppleJuice: me, a couple of days ago
[13:14] <David_BT5> @black : Okay , when it turns off
[13:14] <David_BT5> put your hand on the back of your Laptop
[13:14] <David_BT5> is it Hot ?
[13:14] <David_BT5> if not , then You must consider Updating your VGA drivers
[13:14] <David_BT5> there are 2 main problems for that Crash
[13:14] <David_BT5> 1- VGA drivers
[13:14] <David_BT5> 2- Wrong architecture 32x or 64x bits
[13:14] <AppleJuice> chrbo, So, the computer is now still on?
[13:15] <AppleJuice> With the disc inside it?
[13:15] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: I already suspect an overheating issue but lm-sensors doesn't give me readings for the ATI graphics. CPU temperature is fine and physically it doesn't seem very hot.
[13:15] <David_BT5> @chrbo : Install a fresh Copy mate > i GDM is much better that the KDE version
[13:16] <David_BT5> @Black : oh I see. Then Check your VGA drivers
[13:16] <frewt> recently my friend bought a used laptop and it had ubuntu installed.. are there new computers in stores with ubuntu pre installed now?
[13:16] <David_BT5> warning :
[13:16] <narcos> Basically, what this guy is asking - http://askubuntu.com/questions/235456/ubuntu-12-04-lts-ssl-irc-unable-to-build-with-openssl
[13:16] <David_BT5> the last time i updated them on Backtrack ... my OS went crazy
[13:16] <chrbo> AppleJuice: yes, it is on and the disc is inside. but the bios is set to boot from hdd. my only concern is, that when i use reboot, the live-disc will say: "remove cd and press enter to reboot" - I need to get around that
[13:16] <datsmoida> anyone ever used asterisk ?
[13:16] <David_BT5> frewt : Toshiba and HP Laptops come with a Linux
[13:16] <David_BT5> (not all the models)
[13:17] <frewt> wow that is awesome
[13:17] <David_BT5> hey GUYS
[13:17] <David_BT5> have you ever tried
[13:17] <sini> can you guise also into debian?
[13:17] <David_BT5> blackBuntu ?
[13:17] <sini> nobody is on #tails
[13:17] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: I installed the latest fglrx from the repo, the ATI card is recognized and the fan works. It's quite puzzling.
[13:18] <David_BT5> BlackNarcissus : Does your laptop shutdown suddenly ? does it Stuck somewhere ?
[13:18] <sini> im having trouble logging into my facebook
[13:18] <David_BT5> Sini ; what's happening tell me.
[13:18] <David_BT5> maybe i can help.
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: the ivr software?
[13:18] <AppleJuice> chrbo, Do you have a local live cd to test anything?
[13:18] <sini> it just won't into facebook and my boyfriend is hella mad about it
[13:18] <sini> im using usb
[13:18] <DJones> sini: This is Ubuntu support, not facebook support
[13:18] <datsmoida> SolarisBoy - yes
[13:18] <chrbo> AppleJuice: I can download and burn it to test it
[13:18] <datsmoida> i have some questions on it
[13:19] <datsmoida> u ever use it ?
[13:19] <AppleJuice> chrbo, You dont have to burn. You could flash to usb or use virtualbox.
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: yes but im sure you'll get better answers in #asterix if it's open
[13:19] <David_BT5> @AppleJuice : what's the point from a Live-Linux ?
[13:19] <chrbo> AppleJuice: I guess I will just try to http://blog.mohammadzadeh.info/index.php/howto-force-a-immediate-reboot
[13:20] <sini> djones i know but i think its linux problem not facebook problem
[13:20] <sini> idk why linux cant into facebook
[13:20] <AppleJuice> chrbo, That might work.
[13:20] <David_BT5> sini : what's happening exactly ?
[13:20] <brotherBox> Buy a mac.
[13:20]  * SolarisBoy on my facebook now on "linux"
[13:20] <fish_man> #ubuntu-cn
[13:20] <David_BT5> @appleJuice : a live-Linux only works well , if you just want to test it. !
[13:21] <David_BT5> otherwise , there's no need to launch a live-Linux
[13:21] <SolarisBoy> it could work well as a mobile OS too if you dont want to install to multiple hard drives
[13:21] <BlackNarcissus> David_BT5: Yes, it shuts down randomly, and suddenly. I am testing it right now, doing intensive 3d or video.
[13:21] <AppleJuice> David_BT5, I was referring to chrbo issue about rebooting a livecd without interruption.
[13:21] <donnie> Any chance of getting a proxy that actually works? I'm sick of connection fails, and dropped connections
[13:21] <AppleJuice> David_BT5, He could try to reboot in a virtualbox.
[13:22] <AppleJuice> David_BT5, To see
[13:22] <AppleJuice> David_BT5, If it works
[13:22] <sini> I am clicking the login button and nothing is happening
[13:22] <David_BT5> man yeah , but I'm just Saying .. a live-Linux sucks
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> no it doesn't =(
[13:22] <AppleJuice> David_BT5, I concur.
[13:22] <sini> feels batman
[13:22] <David_BT5> @Sini ; oh i got you
[13:22] <datsmoida> SolarisBoy - can you jcan you run your own voip from a vps without some special phone network connectivity subscription ?
[13:22] <David_BT5> install a new browser
[13:22] <David_BT5> check your Java
[13:22] <chrbo> AppleJuice: worked like a charm
[13:22] <David_BT5> settings
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: no you will need a public circuit to do that
[13:23] <AppleJuice> chrbo, Thats great. I will remember that trick.
[13:23] <David_BT5> Any  Hacker Here ?
[13:23] <David_BT5> i need a professional One.
[13:23] <David_BT5> we can make a  DEAl
[13:23] <brotherBox> David_BT5, sini is a hacker
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: they have hosted asterix which they spin up in VM's at colo's which already have their circuits installed and you can use that for hosting your voip
[13:23] <datsmoida> SolarisBoy  - how do i get that
[13:23] <DJones> David_BT5: Thats offtopic
[13:23] <datsmoida> oh i see
[13:23] <datsmoida> how hard is it to set up ?
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: check on the asterix website they offer it there as well
[13:23] <sini> haxing is always on topic
[13:24] <sini> i can hack anything
[13:24] <David_BT5> @brotherBox hahahahah LOL
[13:24] <datsmoida> so then i can generate phone calls with it ?
[13:24] <David_BT5> i see
[13:24] <sini> just having trouble with fb :(
[13:24] <David_BT5> Sini : oh you can't login to FB
[13:24] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: super easy web based and you can get a guy to walk you throgh it - datsmoida yes assuming your soft phone are config'd properly
[13:24] <David_BT5> are you a hacker
[13:24] <David_BT5> well , tell me then
[13:24] <David_BT5> how can you see the tables in a website, infected with the SQL injection vulnerability ?
[13:24] <brotherBox> b&
[13:25] <donnie> No one knows about proxy for me?
[13:25] <sini> nigga i would tell you but you're obviously fbi
[13:25] <David_BT5> nope I'm not Fella.
[13:25] <brotherBox> oshit
[13:25] <SolarisBoy> !language
[13:25] <David_BT5> @Sini : i'm a hacker too.
[13:25] <David_BT5> but i need someone to work with me
[13:25] <David_BT5> since it takes a lot of time
[13:25] <David_BT5> i need someone to work on Metasploit and Armitage
[13:25] <David_BT5> I work on PHP , HTML , cracking
[13:25] <David_BT5> and finding exploits.
[13:25] <SolarisBoy> php is an exploit
[13:26] <datsmoida> is that ivr hosting ?
[13:26] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: correct
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> in where they do the ivr stuff and provide a interface to customization and you setup your softphones to point to their voice gateways etc
[13:27] <narufreak> Hi, newer Ubuntu user here and i wanted to ask a question real quick.  For some reason my screen keeps "blinking" every 5-10 seconds, for no apparent reason, anyone have a clue why?
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> datsmoida: paid service ofcourse but afaik it's not very expensive and they have plans and stuff - you get ssh access web access and other types of admin capabilities for your asterix instance
[13:28] <BlackNarcissus> Hey all. I'm trying to diagnose a Toshiba Satellite P200 latop with 12.04 and latest kernel installed. It shuts down randomly. I suspect a overheating/power management issue but some help would be appreciated. It has an ATi radeon card with proprietary fglrx installed. Thanks.
[13:28] <frewt> narufreak, I'm no expert but maybe change the monitor model
[13:28] <datsmoida> then i can generate phone calls with it ?
[13:28] <erupter> guys does anyone know how can I manipulate stdout to intercept any libs' output in my own code before it goes to the console and without source access?
[13:29] <frewt> in ubuntu
[13:30] <datsmoida> how cheap should i be able to get the hosting and ivr
[13:31] <datsmoida> if i want to make like a 100k calls a month or so
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:32] <escott> erupter, how is this not a basic bash redirection question
[13:34] <phiq> bwho
[13:34] <hillary> am unable to install android development tools (ADT) in aptana studio. How can i
[13:36] <hillary> Am using ubuntu 12.04
[13:36] <brotherBox> Yeah what about Benghazi anyway
[13:37] <datsmoida> i mean if i want my VPS to make phone calls, i have to set up VOIP on an IVR host, right ?
[13:38] <hillary> can anybody guide me please?
[13:38] <AppleJuice> hillary, What goes wrong?
[13:39] <Night-hacks> I removed xubuntu-desktop but i still see xubuntu splash while booting and turning off ?
[13:40] <Night-hacks> does anybody knows how to remove that ?
[13:40] <AppleJuice> Night-hacks, Try sudo update-grub2
[13:40] <AppleJuice> If that does not work, try looking in /boot for the image and remove it.
[13:41] <hillary> AppleJuice, it give error message.http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616635/
[13:41] <Pici> !plymouth | Night-hacks this should point you in the right direction
[13:42] <Night-hacks> Thanks
[13:42] <Ben64> Night-hacks: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:42] <Pici> Ben64: lightdm probably isn't what is showup up on boot and shutdown
[13:43] <Ben64> oh, maybe i read that incorrectly
[13:44] <AppleJuice> hillary, I cant find on Aptana's website support for Android. It seems to be designed for web development. Why dont you use ADT Bundle? : https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[13:45] <dforthman> Has anyone been able to get a L2TP/IPSec VPN to actually connect? I keep getting 300 and 500 errors.
[13:45] <hillary> AppleJuice, ok let me try that
[13:47] <Guest30815> hello I've big time issues with grub, i cloned ubuntu to new ubuntu partition, deleted old partiton, ended up in grub resuce, using live usb, ran boot repair, still it doesnt boots, although boot repair says success but it's not, see the log- http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616627/
[13:47] <lesshaste> is there a font installer for true type fonts?
[13:47] <erupter> escott because I need to do that in c++
[13:48] <DJones> !fonts | lesshaste
[13:48] <lesshaste> DJones, thanks .. I realise that what I want was probably in msttcorefonts
[13:49] <lesshaste> DJones, but I see that I have ttf-mscorefonts-installer intalled.. does that actually include fonts and if so, how can I list them?
[13:49] <DJones> lesshaste: Installing the ttf-mscorefonts-installer should get you the fonts as far as I'm aware
[13:49] <escott> erupter, still dont understand the question. what does c++ have to do with anything
[13:50] <erupter> escott, you asked me why it was not a basic bash question, I told you I don't use bash.
[13:50] <erupter> or rather: bash is the underlying shell, but I need to control it from code
[13:51] <escott> erupter, seems silly to be trying to do redirection from c++, but presumably you just setup the redirected filedescriptors and then execve your program
[13:51] <Guest30815> hello I've big time issues with grub, i cloned ubuntu to new ubuntu partition, deleted old partiton, ended up in grub resuce, using live usb, ran boot repair, still it doesnt boots, although boot repair says success but it's not, see the log- http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616627/
[13:51] <mcb_2> Hi all, i have the following problem I have tried the #squid channel and #Debian channel, but no one anwsered: Squid works fines using internet LINK1, but machines that are in the "tcp_outgoing_address" acl that uses internet LINK2, can not access some sites. I made a static route using LINK2 to a site that the problem occur  and i can connect to it in port 80 by telnet, so i am certain that LINK2 has no problem connecting to the site, per si. It is only squi
[13:52] <erupter> escott, maybe it seems silly, but I want to have a neater output. since my program makes use of a lot of libraries which print to the shell, I want to wrap a curses window around all that output to keep it controlled
[13:52] <Guest30815> hello I've big time issues with grub, i cloned ubuntu to new ubuntu partition, deleted old partiton, ended up in grub resuce, using live usb, ran boot repair, still it doesnt boots, although boot repair says success but it's not, see the log- http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616627/
[13:54] <Guest30815> hello I've big time issues with grub, i cloned ubuntu to new ubuntu partition, deleted old partiton, ended up in grub resuce, using live usb, ran boot repair, still it doesnt boots, although boot repair says success but it's not, see the log- http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616627/
[13:54] <dforthman> Guest30815, maybe you need to reinstall Grub? sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  # Example: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[13:55] <Guest30815> dforthman, didn't helped
[13:55] <Guest30815> see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1616627/
[13:55] <Ben64> Guest30815: you don't need to repeat yourself every minute. 20 minutes would be fine.
[13:55] <escott> erupter, im sure you could do that by scripting screen or the like
[14:00] <capoderra> question: if I want to install Windows 7 in Virtualbox, and I don't want to connect the internet through Windows, then I don't need to install SP1 or any updates, right?
[14:02] <capoderra> anyone?
[14:03] <Ben64> capoderra: really not an ubuntu question
[14:04] <capoderra> no, not really an ubuntu question.
[14:04] <OerHeks> capoderra,  you better ask in ##windows
[14:06] <killer> how do i enable 256-colorrs in terminal ubuntu 12.04
[14:11] <ton111111> guys
[14:11] <dr_willis> killer:  you mean in gnome-terminal in X? or the consoles?
[14:11] <ton111111> I try to get on windows 8 and i get error: disk (hd0,gpt1) not found.
[14:11] <ton111111> what should i do
[14:12] <killer> dr_willis : in d gnome-terminal
[14:13] <sarthor> HELP, Trying to ssh to one of my ubuntu-server installed machine 1 from ubuntu installed machine 2, I am not able to ssh , the message says, "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". while I can ssh from other computers.
[14:13] <ton111111> guys
[14:13] <ton111111> I try to get on windows 8 and i get error: disk (hd0,gpt1) not found.
[14:13] <ton111111> :O
[14:14] <dr_willis> killer:  what are you using that even needs 256 colors in gnome-terminal?
[14:14] <killer> dr_willis: a vim theme
[14:15] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1090344  killer
[14:15] <ton111111> anyone?
[14:15] <dr_willis> TERM=xterm-256color vim
[14:15] <dr_willis> ;0
[14:15] <ton111111> :L
[14:16] <ton111111> dr_willis can u help at all?
[14:16] <ton111111> dr_willis: can u help at all? Whats wrong with it? :(
[14:16] <dr_willis> ton111111:  i dont use windows 8.. seems its trying to boot a disk thats not there any more.
[14:16] <ton111111> :O
[14:16] <dr_willis> the error is comming from the windows bootloader?
[14:16] <ton111111> how?!
[14:16] <dr_willis> how what?
[14:17] <chrisan> Any win7 converts here? Wondering if there is window management similar to win+left / win+right key snapping
[14:17] <dr_willis> is GRUB giving the error? or is it going to windows and windows giving the error...
[14:17] <ton111111> grub
[14:18] <ton111111> it is there
[14:19] <killer> dr_willis: thanx
[14:20] <seanw95> I'm brand new to linux and need some help with this " http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/nfe.4freebsd.html "
[14:21] <Romantique> cc
[14:21] <ton111111> :L
[14:21] <lukecarrier> seanw95, nobody can help unless you tell them what the issue is ;)
[14:21] <seanw95> Lukecarrier: The link pretty much explains it..
[14:22] <seanw95> I don't understand anything on that page in all honest
[14:22] <seanw95> someone said I needed to do that
[14:22] <seanw95> to fix my wired network...cause it needs drivers
[14:22] <auronandace> seanw95: can you pastebin lsmod?
[14:23] <lukecarrier> seanw95, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7727245&postcount=2
[14:23] <lukecarrier> seanw95, I think this thread may be of use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230493
[14:24] <seanw95> I'm reading it but it makes very little sense to me
[14:24] <seanw95> I know what I'm doing and can do near anything within windows environment however I need to get used to linux
[14:24] <lukecarrier> seanw95, I'm at work, I can't hold your hand ;)
[14:25] <seanw95> just follow the thread?
[14:26] <dr_willis> Thread seems clear to me.. ;)
[14:26] <dr_willis> determind the exact mcp## you got.
[14:26] <dr_willis> seems the nfe module has been replaced by the 'forcedeth' module
[14:28] <dexter_> facebook
[14:30] <ton111> I really
[14:30] <ton111> need help :(
[14:30] <lukecarrier> ton111, with what?
[14:30] <ton111> error: unknown command 'drivemap' error: invalid EFI filepath
[14:30] <ton111> When i try to launch win 8
[14:31] <cfhowlett> ton111, #windows for windows support
[14:31] <lukecarrier> cfhowlett, that's a grub issue
[14:31] <ton111> Its not win support
[14:31] <mhs> How to install realplayer in ubuntu 12.10
[14:31] <lukecarrier> ton111, google it
[14:31] <ton111> its grub
[14:31] <ton111> I did
[14:31] <mhs> ?
[14:31] <ton111> no help there
[14:31] <cfhowlett> lukecarrier, ah.  ok.  thanks.
[14:31] <Seanw95> Someone was helping me before
[14:31] <lukecarrier> :p
[14:31] <FloodBot1> ton111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <Seanw95> luke!
[14:32] <Seanw95> I did sudo modprobe forcedeath
[14:32] <Seanw95> I got "FATAL : module forcedeath not found
[14:32] <Seanw95> :(
[14:32] <lukecarrier> Seanw95, check your typing
[14:32] <mindbreaker> hey guys, has anyone experience with using ubuntu on a lenovo s400 notebook? are there any problems?
[14:32] <Seanw95> Hmmm
[14:32] <simon_q> sean95 stick if_nfe_load="YES" in the loader.conf file use a texteditor like vi
[14:33] <simon_q>  
[14:33] <cfhowlett> mindbreaker, don't know the model number, but my last lenovo laptop install couldn't have been smoother.
[14:33] <simon_q>  /crapbuster
[14:33] <Seanw95> Oh I feel like a little idiot now luke! :|
[14:34] <lukecarrier> Seanw95, everyone has to start somewhere, I'll let you off
[14:34] <Seanw95> Should I re-login or restart ubuntu after this?
[14:35] <myrrdin> can someone take a look at http://paste2.org/p/2832157 and tell me if they see anything that's stopping xserver from launching? Just updated ubuntu 12.04 and now it only boots to tty1? I've tried everything I've found on the forums and nothing seems to work.
[14:35] <mindbreaker> hmmm .. okay, but it depends on the hardware :/
[14:35] <fabian___> Anyone ever run into the issue where you hit ctrl+r but after typing the first character it just freezes, and you cant search any further?
[14:35] <lukecarrier> Seanw95, nope, it's dynamic; the driver will load immediately
[14:36] <mhs> Can anybody tell me, how to install and configure realplayer in ubuntu 12.10? Please
[14:36] <makara-> hi. I messed up my bootloader being greedy. I read an article in hackernews about e4rat and installed it. But apparently Ubuntu already has it's own. So I uninstalled it, but now Ubuntu's loader (forget the name) doesn't run. No 1. No2, I installed BUM to turn off services on system startup and I see openarena-server activated?? I uninstalled OpenArena ages ago, and looking in Synaptic there's nothing there. Any ideas?
[14:36] <Anubosd> ommmmmmg
[14:37] <Confoozed> Hi folks - I am in a bit of a bind - my /boot partition is full, and I have tried apt-get remove-ing old linux images to clear up space, but no dice - it still bounces me back out with a suggestion to do an apt-get -f install.  I try that, but it then complains about unmet dependencies: linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.0.0-30-server but it is not going to be installed
[14:37] <t0n1111> how do i uninstall ubuntu??
[14:37] <Horus`> t0n1111: OK EPIC NOOB SPOTTED
[14:37] <brotherBox> sudo rm -rf /
[14:37] <myrrdin> erase the partition :-P
[14:37] <Nach0z> lol
[14:37] <Confoozed> can someone point me at some docs about how to make apt-get remove the packages, or how to (safely) fix up the full /boot disk? :/
[14:38] <Horus`> TOO MUCH NOOOBS RAAA
[14:38] <Seanw95> Lukecarrier: Still not working :(
[14:38] <Nach0z> t0n1111: are you referring to the wubi installer?
[14:38] <t0n1111> Im on windows 8 with oher on i want ubuntu gone
[14:38] <Nach0z> Confoozed: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[14:38] <myrrdin> I'm still stuck, can't get xserver to start to save me wee little life
[14:38] <Confoozed> it seems like I am stuck in a loop - can't update kernel image, but can't remove the old packages either :)
[14:38] <melty> lol
[14:38] <Seanw95> Wired network disconnected- you are now offline
[14:38] <Confoozed> Nach0z: ok - thanks.  Much appreciated.
[14:39] <crocket> Is https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115 fixed in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:39] <crocket> I'm trying to install ubuntu studio 12.10 on my zenbook.
[14:39] <Confoozed> Alas - no dice.  Still dumps me out with an error about unmet dependencies :(
[14:40] <myrrdin> perhaps someone could side me in a direct chat, I can't tell who anyone is responding to in here...
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:40] <myrrdin> I'm just trying to get some help with getting xserver to start :)
[14:41] <brotherBox> You tried startx?
[14:41] <Nach0z> Confoozed: unmet dependencies? did you get stuck in the middle of a dist upgrade or something?
[14:41] <myrrdin> I've tried everything on the forums, ctr/alt/f7, starting lightdm, nothing is working
[14:41] <myrrdin> and yes, startx freezes
[14:41] <Confoozed> Nach0z: yes - because my boot partition is full :/
[14:41] <Confoozed> so now I am stuck in a loop - cannot purge old linux images, cannot install new linux image
[14:42] <Nach0z> oh. dang. yeah, I've never stuck /boot in a separate partition myself, so I can't say I have a helluva lot of experience there.
[14:42] <Confoozed> can I "safely" purge the one that is going to be installed to then clean out the /boot
[14:42] <Confoozed> :/
[14:42] <Confoozed> Nach0z: oh  well - thanks anyhow.  I will keep looking.
[14:42] <brotherBox> Confoozed, can you boot from a usb stick? If so, you could try to remove old kernels to get a bit of space
[14:42] <Confoozed> brotherBox: alas, this is a remote machine.
[14:42] <brotherBox> Which makes stuff a lot easier...
[14:43] <Nach0z> sorry hombre
[14:43] <rackor> Confoozed: is it an option of backup up data and going for a full reinstall?
[14:43] <mhs> Nobody know how to install realplayer in ubuntu?
[14:44] <Confoozed> rackor: not really - no.
[14:46]  * Confoozed wonders if deleting the lost+found file in there would work...
[14:46] <crocket> hmm
[14:46] <crocket> I just chose "Replace windows 7 with ubuntu studio" with LVM option.
[14:46] <crocket> And it automatically wiped out my solid state drive.
[14:47] <crocket> What the hell?
[14:47] <bipul> Hi Good evening to all.
[14:48] <raub> If I have a machine connected to 3 different vlans, getting ips for each of them using dhcp, how do I specify the default route?
[14:48] <bipul> Well while runing Network simulation-2 with emulation in my Ubuntu 12.04, i am getting this error , i don't know why :( http://oi45.tinypic.com/1zqac10.jpg Please help me i will be very thank full to you.
[14:48] <mindbreaker> mhs: add the medibuntu repo and install the realplayer
[14:48] <raub> Just putting a gateway entry in the desired interface does not seem to cut the mustard
[14:48] <Confoozed> AHA! dpkg to the resuce :)
[14:48] <Confoozed> also, rescue.
[14:49] <dfgdfgdg> hello, I have the password for an email adress, say a@b.com, how do normally login to the mail if there is no prompt at the website b.com ?
[14:50] <brotherBox> dfgdfgdg, SMTP?
[14:51] <dr_willis> makes me wonder how you got the password for the address... ;)
[14:51] <Jpmh> dfgdfgdg: and brotherBox and pop3 or imap
[14:51] <Seanw95> Can someone help me with manual network configuration?
[14:51] <dfgdfgdg> is there a way to figure out which ?
[14:52] <dr_willis> the site should say
[14:52] <mindbreaker> Seanw95: where's the problem?
[14:52] <Confoozed> ok - that was very scary, but seems to have worked :D  i used dpkg --remove and that worked.  *phew*
[14:52] <Confoozed> thanks for your suggestions all.
[14:52] <Jpmh> dfgdfgdg: what do u really want to do - send or receive or both
[14:52] <Seanw95> I've been having networking issues for the past...days. I've finally got forcedeth driver working
[14:52] <Seanw95> DHCP doesn't work on ubuntu for me
[14:53] <Seanw95> so I've had to manually input my network configuration
[14:53] <Seanw95> but when I ping my router it's unreachable
[14:53] <dfgdfgdg> both
[14:53] <Jpmh> dfgdfgdg: then you need both smtp and pop3 or imap
[14:54] <mindbreaker> SeanW95: is the interface up?
[14:54] <OerHeks> dfgdfgdg, maybe they use something like mail.b.com ?
[14:54] <Jpmh> dfgdfgdg: do you have legitimate access to this account?
[14:54] <brotherBox> Use google tl s
[14:54] <Seanw95> I don't know what you mean or how to check
[14:54] <Seanw95> but it said connection established
[14:54] <brotherBox> *to search for mail b.com
[14:54] <gvo> dfgdfgdg: try this:  telnet b.com 25  If you get a connection then there's probably a pop server there.
[14:54] <Seanw95> eth0?
[14:55] <Jpmh> gvo: pop is usually at 110 - smtp at 25
[14:55] <gvo> zOops  sorry you are right
[14:55] <mindbreaker> what does ifconfig say?
[14:56] <Seanw95> Do you want the paste of it?
[14:56] <mindbreaker> are you able to ping your own ip address?
[14:56] <bipul> Well while runing Network simulation-2 with emulation in my Ubuntu 12.04, i am getting this error , i don't know why :( http://oi45.tinypic.com/1zqac10.jpg Please help me i will be very thank full to you.
[14:56] <Seanw95> the same desktops?
[14:56] <Seanw95> Yes
[14:57] <mindbreaker> okay, well, paste your config file and the ifconfig output
[14:57] <Seanw95> How do I find the config file?
[14:57] <mindbreaker> i mean this file: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:58] <bharath> while I am building webkit , my laptop is overheating , even jupiter was installed ,but my latop is overheating and it shutdowns , is there any solution for this?
[14:59] <auronandace> bharath: jupiter?
[14:59] <bharath> auronandace, yes we can on power saving mode with that
[15:00] <Seanw95> mindbreaker : ifconfig - https://public.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pF1_OoftzpFPi8G3WKgibCVRa6uarSExZKKc1KgtMxeVzQbsXb4lxtfjM-nDG5Tp2913tM-nqokG3HuLSfRdUFw/32.jpg?psid=1
[15:00] <bharath> auronandace, I am using ubuntu 12.10
[15:00] <Seanw95> mindbreaker: config file - https://public.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pIu7WGypPn4X8tHelKVYqOaeiq1WLYfTNWQsiHPxrgTZoCCf35EAoUrqw9ev_RO0Ttw8HoXp5Z-MU5r43eORtPA/33.jpg?psid=1
[15:02] <Seanw95> test
[15:04] <mindbreaker> did you do your network config with the graphical network manager?
[15:04] <Seanw95> Yes
[15:05] <Seanw95> Well I just input the ip adress, subnet mask and gateway
[15:05] <mindbreaker> why does your dhcp not work?
[15:05] <Seanw95> I don't know...In windows its fine
[15:05] <Seanw95> when I'm on linux it goes all tits up
[15:05] <Seanw95> I reserved my NIC's mac address its own IP to make things easier
[15:07] <mindbreaker> what's with sudo ifdown, sudo ifup?
[15:07] <mindbreaker> sudo ifdown eth0
[15:07] <mindbreaker> sudo ifup eth0
[15:07] <neil098> hi guys, i need help with my ubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. what's happening is all the windows including the menus turned blank white and it goes back to normal after rebooting my netbook. happens everytime.
[15:08] <Seanw95> Shall I execute that command in terminal?
[15:08] <mindbreaker> yes
[15:08] <BiPolah> Does the 64-bit 12.10 minimal image support UEFI?
[15:08] <escott> BiPolah, it should
[15:08] <BiPolah> escott, alright thanks I thought so. I'm just having trouble trying to get it to boot in a VM
[15:09] <Seanw95> for ifdown I got " interface eth0 not configured"
[15:09] <Seanw95> for ifup "ignoring unkown interface eth0=eth-"
[15:10] <mindbreaker> can you configure your network in the config file i sent to you .. i'll send you a config example
[15:11] <neil098> hi guys, i need help with my ubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. what's happening is all the windows including the menus turned blank white and it goes back to normal after rebooting my netbook. happens everytime.
[15:11] <mindbreaker> http://pastebin.com/Lri5gbUn
[15:12] <Seanw95> Put all that into my config file?
[15:12] <mindbreaker> yes
[15:12] <tapas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[15:12] <Seanw95> Sorry if it feels like your holdingmy hand...really new to linux and i appreciate it.
[15:12] <tapas> if i follow that advice will extra packages be uninstalled?
[15:12] <Seanw95> do i delete what was there before?
[15:12] <tapas> i.e. dpkg --set-selection < installed_software
[15:13] <mindbreaker> no, only pasting below
[15:13] <eriknewb> Does Ubuntu supply virtualbox images?
[15:13] <mindbreaker> and after that, you have to execute "sudo service networking restart" in terminal
[15:13] <jakey1> how do i check my computers performancefrom the terminal
[15:14] <tapas> eriknewb: afaik not ready made.. but it's easy to install in virtualbox
[15:14] <eriknewb> I found some on another site, but im wondering about official images
[15:14] <eriknewb> tapas: really how so?
[15:14] <eriknewb> I thought VB required images
[15:14] <tapas> eriknewb: DL an ubuntu iso image.
[15:14] <eriknewb> Can I just boot off like any othe3r VM?
[15:14] <eriknewb> Im used tyo vmware, sorry
[15:14] <tapas> eriknewb: then create a virtual machine.. mount the iso and install it
[15:14] <Seanw95> mindbreaker :the document is read only
[15:14] <eriknewb> oh, just like any other VM then
[15:14] <eriknewb> thanks
[15:15] <eriknewb> Like I said, im used to vmware and qemu, I thought vbox only uised premade images or something
[15:15] <mindbreaker> type this for write access: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[15:15] <OerHeks> eriknewb, http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/
[15:15] <tapas> eriknewb: np.. finding the dialog to mount the image is maybe a bit tricky in VB, though they have improved it a lot over previous versions..
[15:16] <jakey1> anyone
[15:16] <eriknewb> tapas: nah i know where it is
[15:16] <eriknewb> OerHeks: thanks for tyhat, that saves me the install time
[15:16] <eriknewb> Soi i will just use that, actually, the kubuntu one
[15:16] <Seanw95> Typed what you said
[15:16] <eriknewb> I just need to make sure there is an x64 one
[15:16] <Seanw95> ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error
[15:17] <OerHeks> eriknewb, x86 only
[15:17] <neil098> hi guys, i need help with my ubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. what's happening is all the windows including the menus turned blank white and it goes back to normal after rebooting my netbook. happens everytime.
[15:17] <eriknewb> Cause even though its not gonna be using 5GB of ram, the thing im going to be biilding requires 64bit libs
[15:17] <Seanw95> something about gnome settings deamon
[15:17] <eriknewb> OerHeks: wtf? wow
[15:17] <neil098> please help
[15:17] <eriknewb> I found another site with x64
[15:17] <eriknewb> But its 12.04 newest
[15:17] <mindbreaker> after restarting networking service?
[15:17] <tapas> neil098: try a window manager without compositing
[15:18] <tapas> neil098: it might be your 3d gfx driver
[15:18] <Seanw95> yes
[15:18] <eriknewb> im just gonna do a clean install inside vbox then
[15:18] <tapas> e.g. use kde and press alt-shift-f12
[15:18] <tapas> which disables compositing..
[15:18] <Seanw95> Shall I send the error report and continue?
[15:18] <mindbreaker> yes
[15:18] <tapas> neil098: possibly it can be disabled in gnome, too.. but i don't use that *shudder*
[15:18] <OerHeks> eriknewb, that is the fastest way, clone it after install to keep a fresh copy
[15:19] <Seanw95> How would i go about restarting gnomw
[15:19] <Seanw95> gnome, seeing as my desktop is now gone
[15:19] <tapas> different question: is there a ppa that has qt 5.0.0 for 12.04 LTS?
[15:19] <Seanw95> Oh, my terminal has crashed too
[15:20] <mindbreaker> there is a problem with your graphic driver :/
[15:20] <neil098> i am not really familiar with those, any help guiding me through
[15:21] <crocket> hmm
[15:21] <Seanw95> Oh no what do I do?
[15:21] <mindbreaker> simply restart your computer, than the config should still exist
[15:21] <crocket> ubuntu studio is disappointing because its GUI is ancient.
[15:21] <crocket> It even uses xscreensaver.
[15:21] <Seanw95> Okay will do that now
[15:22] <mindbreaker> and then look at the ifconfig output
[15:22] <mindbreaker> if there is eth0 with a configured ip address
[15:23] <Seanw95> How do I check eth0 output
[15:24] <mindbreaker> ifconfig
[15:25] <Seanw95> mindbreaker: what am I looking for
[15:26] <mindbreaker> i hope you use an ethernet cable? :D
[15:26] <mindbreaker> if there is an ip address on interface eth0
[15:26] <mindbreaker> 192.168.0.3
[15:27] <Seanw95> inet addr 192.168.0.3
[15:27] <liza> can anybdy help me there
[15:27] <tempnanner> hello everyone, I recently updated our server to the latest LTS and apache is now throwing up index.php" is smaller than min_uid all over the place
[15:27] <tempnanner> Ive change the own to www-data still no luck
[15:27] <mindbreaker> okay, are you sure, that your gateway is 192.168.0.1
[15:28] <Seanw95> Yes. Checked router settings
[15:28] <mindbreaker> do you have more than one nic inside your computer?
[15:28] <Seanw95> Only one
[15:29] <Seanw95> update
[15:29] <Seanw95> int he top corner where the networking bit is, wired network and underneath it says device not managed
[15:29] <Seanw95> It didn't before
[15:30] <tempnanner> anyone have any idea?
[15:30] <molgrum> i cannot find my wireless in ubuntu 12.10, i dual boot win 7 and there's no problem in windows. i use broadcom network card on my laptop
[15:30] <yeahwhatever> molgrum: which chipset?
[15:31] <molgrum> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[15:31] <molgrum> Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[15:32] <yeahwhatever> molgrum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11993/how-do-i-install-bcm4312-wireless-drivers
[15:32] <molgrum> i have the STA installed
[15:32] <molgrum> i have had contact with my wifi before, now i don't
[15:33] <yeahwhatever> uh, so it was working earlier?
[15:33] <molgrum> yep
[15:33] <molgrum> for several months
[15:33] <yeahwhatever> Did you get a kernel update recently?
[15:34] <Seanw95> mindbreaker:  ?
[15:34] <molgrum> hmm not sure, i always update security and recommended
[15:34] <mindbreaker> it sounds curious .. i think there is another problem, coz dhcp doesn't work too
[15:35] <resno> i have a friend that encrypted his os and is trying to get the stuff out now. he thinks he may have encrypted it again. heres what he's done http://askubuntu.com/q/251233
[15:35] <Seanw95> I know windows + ubuntu use a different kernel but I can't seem to think why it works in windows not ubuntu
[15:36] <erik49> is there a good way to tell why my ubuntu server rebooted in the middle of the night?
[15:36] <mindbreaker> try sudo dhclient
[15:36] <resno> erik49: check your logs
[15:36] <molgrum> mindbreaker, me?
[15:36] <erik49> anything in particular to look for?
[15:36] <mindbreaker> oh and before, change the config file
[15:37] <resno> possible reasons are numours really
[15:37] <mindbreaker> no, SeanW95
[15:37] <erik49> can you name a few?
[15:37] <Seanw95> Well thanks for the help anyway
[15:37] <Seanw95> I'll continue my quest
[15:38] <mindbreaker> http://pastebin.com/FchEKhMh
[15:40] <Dave77> is it possible to partition an uSD card with gparted?
[15:40] <Seanw95> does that go in networkmanager.conf?
[15:41] <EffeGi> Hi
[15:46] <neil098> hi guys please help. the windows of my ubuntu 12.04 are blank white. as well as the menus. it happens every now and then.
[15:46] <belgianguy> where can I find out where a "which <binary>" is set?
[15:46] <belgianguy> it's the wrong one
[15:46] <isaias> eenode
[15:47] <belgianguy> and it's not in ~/.bashrc or /etc/environment
[15:47] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[15:48] <tobiasBora> I'd like to configure my keyboard to insert the symbol "∃" when I hit "menu + E".
[15:48] <neil098> hi guys please help. the windows of my ubuntu 12.04 are blank white. as well as the menus. it happens every now and then.
[15:48] <tobiasBora> Do you know how I could do it ? (in graphic mode (I'm under KDE), or in console)
[15:48] <tobiasBora> Thanks
[15:49] <llutz> belgianguy: "which" searches $PATH for the app and gives first match. so reorder PATH if oyu don't like it or call the binary with full path
[15:49] <belgianguy> llutz: thanks!
[15:54] <escott> Dave77, i thought the standard for micro SD was set at FAT. you can probably partition but it might not work in other systems
[15:55] <mindbreaker> after restarting service networking, gnome disappears .. syslog says, there are nouveau driver problems. what can i do?
[15:55] <jali_f> so guys, is there any real reason why plugging in a charger makes my mouse jittery?
[15:55] <jali_f> is that like a physics thing with the capacitors and electricity?
[15:56] <Eagleman> When i install sshguard from scratch ( also configured the iptables ) and edit the default of 40 login attempts in /etc/defaults/sshguard to 4, and then start the program and try to login 4 times nothing gets blocked. No rules get added to the iptables chain sshguard and nothing happens in auth.log ( except that the program started ) with ps aux | grep sshguard i can see the program is running.
[15:56] <Eagleman> Any idea what is going wrong?
[15:56] <escott> jali_f, wired mouse?
[15:56] <jali_f> escott: nope trackpad
[15:56] <jali_f> and what's hilarious is I've tested it
[15:56] <neil098> need help guys, my ubuntu windows are playing up. everything is white. even the menus are white.
[15:56] <jali_f> its totally 100% plugging it in lol
[15:57] <escott> jali_f, laptops will do weird things to reduce energy usage on battery. it might probe the device for updates less often on battery which would reduce responsiveness. perhaps your sensitivity settings are just too high
[15:58] <escott> jali_f, or as you said there could be an electrical problem in the power supply somewhere. or the electrons coming out of the wall socket could be spinning the wrong way... ive heard thats a problem :-P
[15:59] <liza> hlw people can anybdy help me a stupid man cm in my private without my  permission and abusing with bad wrd can tell me how to getout him from my private
[15:59] <Eagleman> When i install sshguard from scratch ( also configured the iptables ) and edit the default of 40 login attempts in /etc/defaults/sshguard to 4, and then start the program and try to login 4 times nothing gets blocked. No rules get added to the iptables chain sshguard and nothing happens in auth.log ( except that the program started ) with ps aux | grep sshguard i can see the program is running.
[15:59] <Eagleman> Any idea what is going wrong?
[15:59] <neil098> need help guys, my ubuntu windows are playing up. everything is white. even the menus are white.  it happens every now and then. the only to get everything working is rebooting my pc
[16:00] <designbybeck__> So GIMP 2.8.4 is out, but Ubuntu Software Center has 2.8.2, what is Ubuntu's process on these kinds of releases? Does Ubuntu only update their software center every 6 months cycle? Just curious.
[16:00] <Pici> !latest
[16:01] <liza> plzzzzzz help me guyssssss
[16:02] <Pici> liza: What?
[16:02] <designbybeck__> liza: what room?
[16:02] <liza> hlw people can anybdy help me a stupid man cm in my private without my  permission and abusing with bad wrd can tell me how to getout him from my private
[16:03] <phoenixsampras> finally it happened UNITY Crashed!!
[16:03] <Pici> liza: I don't understand what you are asking.
[16:03] <liza> pici you know hindi
[16:04] <Pici> liza: no
[16:04] <liza> ok
[16:04] <Dave77> is it possible in ubuntu to move the window close/maximize to the right, instead of the current top left?
[16:04] <Pici> liza: if you need help blocking someone on IRC, ask in #freenode
[16:04] <yeahwhatever> Kyon karega?
[16:04] <designbybeck__> Dave77: you might try UbuntuTweak
[16:04] <Dave77> ty
[16:04] <liza> pici thanks for help me
[16:05] <yeahwhatever> liza: Mujhe aati hai
[16:05] <neil098> need help guys, my ubuntu windows are playing up. everything is white. even the menus are white.  it happens every now and then. the only to get everything working is rebooting my pc
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> neil098, more info.  What version of Ubuntu?
[16:06] <neil098> @phunyguy_work i am using ubuntu 12.04
[16:06] <brightknight> Ubuntu come in do you read me?
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> brightknight, lima charlie
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> , over
[16:07] <liza> yeahwhatever: plz help me koi stupid mere private me baar baar aakr mujhe bohot bura bol ra h mai use kaise bhagaau use wnha se plz help me
[16:07] <brightknight> How may I rearrange buttons on the launcher?
[16:07] <phunyguy_work> neil098, is there something specific that triggers it?
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> brightknight, click and hold the button to "grab" it and then move to your desired location
[16:08] <neil098> nope, it just happens randomly
[16:08] <yeahwhatever> liza: You are in just one channel, I cannot possibly dream of which other "private" channel you are talking about
[16:08] <Ecila>  #anarchists join!
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> !ot | Ecila
[16:08] <ChallengerX> liza :  gandi kuttiya ... daffa ho haramzadi maa chuda apni
[16:09] <yeahwhatever> Hahahahaha
[16:09] <brightknight> phunyguy_work:  it is moving all buttons in a block as if it is scrolling
[16:09] <Ecila> !guideline
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> brightknight, before you move the mosue, click and hold.
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> it will grab the button
[16:09] <jali_f> escott: sensitivity isn't an issue though. doing research apparently thats the first thing that comes up. when testing it myself on my computer, changing the sensitivity did not improve responsiveness
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> brightknight, hover over the button, then click and hold without moving, you will see
[16:10] <brightknight> phunyguy_work: its grabbing the whole of them as a block, obviously if i do not click and hold the mouse pointer only moves
[16:10] <nearst> hi ppl
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> brightknight, you arent listening to me
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> DO NOT MOVE IT
[16:10] <jali_f> escott: I tried to be as scientific about it as possible without doing full fledged statistics since I know this might just be an issue with my model
[16:10] <tobiasBora> Nobody knows how I could create a shortcut with menu key and an alphanumeric key ?
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> just click and hold, and watch the icon get grabbed by the pointer
[16:10] <Kion> How do I get rid of the guest account on my ubuntu box?
[16:10] <brightknight> phunyguy_work: got it have to wait a second for the button to "pop out"
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> yes.  :)
[16:11] <baskak> hi. how do i turn OFF artificial spatilization when using usb multichannel audio interface? in the "sound settings" window it manifests itself as "analog surround 7.1" profile, which is inadequate (i have 2.0 setup) and it applies some bombastic fx
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> baskak  what audio program?
[16:11] <jali_f> escott: basically I tried my touchpad without the power in (great smooth response), then with the power in (terrible). Also same thing happened in different outlets. Also tried to reduce sensitivity, then I realized the sensitivity on my touchpad is superlow
[16:12] <W|cKeD>  /msg NickServ identify 2212436Joser
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> neil098, I apologize, not sure how to troubleshoot that issue
[16:12] <jali_f> haha Wicked
[16:12] <neil098> @phunyguy_work nope, nothing seems to trigger it. it just happens randomly.
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> neil098, what video hardware?
[16:12] <jali_f> escott: I also did research and apple laptops have the same issue with their power sources
[16:13] <Ecila> #anarchism on Undernet
[16:13] <baskak> MonkeyDust: regardless. i'm talking about system settings
[16:14] <baskak> it has some controls like "distance", which doesn't make sense and even work with flaws
[16:14] <phunyguy_work> neil098, see if bug #990069 applies
[16:15] <neil098> @phunyguy_work not sure this is just a netbook samsung n100 Intel® IGD x86/MMX/SSE2
[16:15] <ClientAlive> my laptop won't wake up. It's the 2nd time this has happened and I had to hard boot it the first time. What's going on with that? Do I have something misconfigured? Also, I keep getting these error messages when the o/s is running talking about an internal error.
[16:15] <escott> jali_f, seems you know more about this than me
[16:16] <nearst> ClientAlive, try boot with nomodeset option in kernel
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> neil098, check otu that bug and see if the symptoms are the same.  If so, you can subscribe to that bug to follow t
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> it*
[16:16] <ClientAlive> nearst: how do I do that?
[16:17] <nearst> ClientAlive, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:17] <ClientAlive> nearst: ok. thx
[16:18] <jali_f> escott: nah bro. I am just very intrigued as to why this happens and whether this can be improved with a bug fix or its just something with the hardware that I need to replace
[16:18] <baskak> MonkeyDust: screengrab: http://imgur.com/QujeEcm. what sense does it make?
[16:18] <neil098> @phunyguy_work need exact link to the bug please
[16:19] <neil098> @phunyguy_work sorry all ok
[16:19] <jali_f> escott: my model is also a asus k55. I'm interested in finding out whether or not its a new BIOS issue. these new comps all have them and honestly this doesn't happen on my old comps.
[16:19] <jali_f> escott: or maybe an intel? the computers I see so far all have intel i-family processors
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> baskak  i guess that's polish? - i don't know what's funny about those settings - guess you better specify your hardware and what you have tried before you came here
[16:20] <Dave77> how do I see all the programs installed in a menu in ubuntu? I had 9.04 installed.. now tried 12.10 and its different.
[16:20] <ClientAlive> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <- says: "This how to applies to ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10."  Does it apply to 12.04 then? or no.
[16:20] <jirido> Haloj! I got a little problem with wine and need to update after adding repository.. But i get this faults .. ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found and some more but i find no one in sources.list that contains the word slicer witch is what differs the problem child from the rest.. can sources be added from other place i need to look?
[16:20] <nearst> ClientAlive, same
[16:20] <ClientAlive> ok
[16:20] <ClientAlive> :)
[16:21] <nearst> for the hardware, try look at hardinfo
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> jirido  ppa's are not supported here, better contact the maintainer
[16:21] <nicofs> I might have conflicting graphics drivers - I just added a new repo and updated them... how do I make sure the old ones are completely gone?
[16:21] <neil098> @phunyguy_work i dont think that's the issue with mine
[16:21] <CarlFK> Is there a way to set "do not automatically connect to any networks, I want to pick then from network manager."  ?
[16:21] <neil098> @phunyguy_work all windows turn white but the one i have opened before that works
[16:22] <jirido> MonkeyDust, but are they all in sources.list ?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> jirido  did you put them there?
[16:22] <neil098> @phunyguy_work menus all are white, even the shutdown dialog box is white]
[16:22] <nearst> in /etc/apt/souce.list or /etc/apt/source.list.d/
[16:23] <ClientAlive> nearst: one of the things it mentioned is: "...to work around various ACPI BIOS issues." <- Does that mean that a more proper way to fix some problems is to first try to configure settings in BIOS then kernel boot params as a 'plan B' ?
[16:23] <jirido> MonkeyDust, I dont know but is it the only place apt looks?
[16:23] <ClientAlive> just trying to understand well enough do things the best way
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !info slice | jirido
[16:23] <nearst> for hardware/driver issue. try boot with nomodeset option in grub and use jockey to install 3rd party driver
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> jirido  and if you remove the ppa from the sources?
[16:25] <jirido> MonkeyDust, ill try that
[16:25] <phunyguy_work> neil098, wish I could help further
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> jirido  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[16:25] <baskak> MonkeyDust: yes, it's polish. hardware: m-audio fast track ultra. it's not "funny" perhaps, but it's completely irrelevant and flawed. all i want is direct stereo signal to two outputs (1 and 2) where my speakers are connected. i had it no problem with it on 12.04. now there's some reverb added, some reverbed virtual channels (side l, side r and center) added to outputs 1 and 2 (why?), and...
[16:25] <baskak> ...controls for balance and "distance" are entangled (moving one moves the another). also i have NO analog surround 7.1 setup. how do i change this profile? there are no other options.
[16:25] <nearst> ClientAlive, u got your grub menu? or that bios problem
[16:26] <baskak> it's hyperfrustrating
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> baskak  maybe the people in #ubuntustudio are familiar with your issue
[16:26] <jhutchins_wk> jirido: apt may also look in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[16:27] <baskak> so please excuse my mindstate.
[16:27] <baskak> ;)
[16:27] <baskak> MonkeyDust: thx, i will ask
[16:27] <ClientAlive> nearst: well, right now, I'm trying to understand the more general way things work (in general), then I think I'd like to try and find my graphics card (or other hardware devices) in some list where it says what issues may exist with it. This is iimportant to me. I'd really like to fix the issues in a proper and good way, with understanding. :)
[16:28] <RealKillaz> Hi there..
[16:28] <RealKillaz> I've tried to upgrade with sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:28] <nearst> ClientAlive, try hardinfo for your hardware detail
[16:28] <RealKillaz> but just bumped into a dpkg error
[16:29] <RealKillaz> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of vim:
[16:29] <RealKillaz> so vim and vim-tiny can not finsihed processing
[16:29] <ClientAlive> nearst: yes, I know how to find what hardware I have but I wonder if there is some information on the internet that details what problems that specific device encounters with linux.
[16:29] <nearst> RealKillaz, try with apt-get install --fix-missing
[16:30] <RealKillaz> nearst, what should I install?
[16:30] <RealKillaz> vim and vim-tiny?
[16:30] <jirido> MonkeyDust, Now it looks better.. :) i took them away in synaptic. Thank you!
[16:31] <nawaf> how to set autoindent permanently in vi
[16:31] <RealKillaz> nearst, You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[16:31] <RealKillaz> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:31] <RealKillaz> nearst, looks like it has been fixed...
[16:31] <nearst> ClientAlive, usually ppl use askbuntu/blog of ubuntuforum for ubuntu specific problem
[16:32] <crocket> I have ibus 1.4.1 on ubuntu studio 12.10, and when ibus-hangul is in use, the ibus icon doesn't assume the shape of a flag.
[16:32] <crocket> What's wrong with ibus on ubuntu?
[16:32] <ClientAlive> nearst: oh, ok. Good idea. The thread says nVidia cards have the black screen issue sometimes. I think mine is nVidia but I'll check it with hardinfo first.
[16:33] <ClientAlive> thx
[16:34] <nearst> ClientAlive, lspci -nn | grep VGA
[16:34] <ClientAlive> cool. I'm installing hardinfo via ssh now (and realized just now that I can safely reboot over ssh too  :)
[16:36] <nearst> ya
[16:36] <Malsasa> Anybody has tested KDE 4.10?
[16:36] <ClientAlive> nearst: Can hardinfo report the wrong information or could I be misunderstanding what I'm seeing?
[16:37] <jirido> An other problem i have now is that i want to update wine from 1.5.23 to 1.5.4 after adding wine repository but apt says i already have the latest.. I have a problem with .. "/c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string" when trying to install .net4 with newly loaded winetrix. #wine is invite only fortunatly :p
[16:37] <ClientAlive> nearst: It appears the cpu I paid so much for is not really the cpu that's in the machine
[16:37] <ClientAlive> wtf!!
[16:37] <erikja> !graphics
[16:37] <erikja> !nvidia
[16:37] <nearst> try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:40] <hilo> How do I set the size of the /dev/ram# devices? Seems like they are 64MiB by default. I just need a sub 1MiB ramdisk for passing some sensitive arguments around.
[16:40] <nicofs> I might have conflicting graphics drivers - I just added a new repo and updated them... how do I make sure the old ones are completely gone?
[16:40] <nearst> hilo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[16:40] <nearst> hilo, sory
[16:40] <nearst> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[16:41] <nomodeset> Which packag i have to install to get php interpreter?
[16:41] <nomodeset> thanks in advance
[16:41] <Pici> nomodeset: for cli usage?
[16:42] <ClientAlive> I have a brand new lappy (like 3 weeks old from HP). I ordered the Intel i7-3820QM cpu @ 2.7 GHz (to 3.7 GHz with turbo boost) with it but hardware info reports "Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor"
[16:42] <Pici> nomodeset: php5 or php5-cli, depending on what you want.
[16:42] <ClientAlive> Am I misunderstanding this information or did a different processor get put in my new machine than what I ordered?
[16:42] <DX099> hello, I'm trying to sync Ubuntu One but the part where it's retrieving data from the cloud never ends...
[16:42] <nomodeset> Pici: I need to execute something like: $php script.php
[16:43] <nomodeset> I've already install and i used it as apache renderer, but i need in console now
[16:44] <Pici> nomodeset: php5-cli then
[16:44] <nomodeset> i've installed php5 but it does not allow me execute $php
[16:44] <nomodeset> Pici: let me check tnaks
[16:44] <nomodeset> thanks
[16:44] <bouke> hi
[16:45] <nomodeset> Pici: Yeah, master, thanks again!
[16:47] <erikja> !nvidia
[16:47] <erikja> !nvidia
[16:47] <erikja> !graphics
[16:48] <erikja> !ati
[16:50] <bouke> how is the new blackberry ?
[16:51] <bouke> hello
[16:51] <nicofs> How do I find out what graphics driver I am actually using? How do I get rid of obsolete ones?
[16:53] <njh_> nicofs, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:53] <bouke> does anyone know how to uninstall the mac os x lion theme ?
[16:54] <JeyKeu> Today I installed Ubuntu via a usb flash disk. I had windows 8 previously. After installation, I have lost my D E partitions. Any help willl be greatly appriciated
[16:54] <usr13> nicofs: You only need to get rid of third party graphics drivers, (or proprietary ones), the others are built-in.
[16:54] <nicofs> usr13, i need the proprietary drivers for steam to run...
[16:55] <JeyKeu> I'm in deep triuble!!!
[16:55] <philinux> nicofs: system settings and look at additional drivers
[16:55] <usr13> nicofs: What display adapter do you have?
[16:55] <usr13> nicofs: lspci | pastebinit
[16:56] <nicofs> usr13, GeForce 9600 GT
[16:56] <punky> JeyKeu, did you install on C partition or re-partitioned your drive?
[16:57] <usr13> nicofs: I suggest you download and install from nvidia.com
[16:57] <irqq> any experts about MegaCli here?
[16:57] <nicofs> philinux, it is set to what it should... the latest proprietary - and yet I'm having issues I shouldn't have...
[16:57] <JeyKeu> it asked whetehr i want to get rid of windows and i checked that box
[16:57] <irqq> ... or what channel I could go to?
[16:57] <philinux> nicofs: what are the issues?
[16:58] <usr13> nicofs: 64bit or 32?
[16:58] <SunilJoshi> Hi, After install graphics driver i was not able to use unity desktop
[16:58] <nicofs> usr13, i googled my issues and others have reported conflicting driver issues after installing from nvidia.com - 64bit
[16:58] <punky> ok, and what about partitions?
[16:59] <nicofs> philinux, "Required OpenGL extension "GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode" is not supported."
[16:59] <JeyKeu> I dont see them, i can see 640gb in gpart
[16:59] <usr13> nicofs: SO uninstall the one you have now first.
[16:59] <punky> Did anyone installed ubuntu from multibuut flash?
[17:00] <nicofs> usr13, how? obviously something like apt-get purge... but purge what?
[17:00] <JeyKeu> sorry, not getting ur question?
[17:00] <punky> JeyKeu, seems like you destroyed other parts so you need some recovery software like EasyRecovery. also, a great LiveCD (ubuntu-based, heh) named CAINE saved me after RAID destruction
[17:01] <JeyKeu> so i need another gigantic hdd to store those files?
[17:01] <JeyKeu> oh gosh
[17:01] <usr13> nicofs: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*idia*
[17:02] <BadKarMah> Does anyone know how to setup a local network install with Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:02] <nicofs> philinux, I was able to get rid of that error by adding a repo (ubuntu-x-swat), but after rebooting, the error was back. I assume that at some point there are conflicting drivers... I just don't know where to start sorting that out
[17:02] <BadKarMah> I use to extract the Alternate CD ISO to build a network installer
[17:02] <punky> JeyKeu, yes, or through network.
[17:02] <usr13> nicofs: and then  apt-get remove or purge nvidia-what-ever
[17:03] <usr13> nicofs: Or myabe just nvidia*
[17:03] <JeyKeu> so CAINE is better in ur experience/opinion?
[17:03] <MartynKeigher> hey, i just installed 12.04.1 server and im a cli
[17:03] <MartynKeigher> *at a clie
[17:03] <MartynKeigher> how do i get into the GUI?
[17:03] <dgbaley27> Hey. Are the regular repositories precise,quantal,etc completely immutable after a release has been made, so that all updates go in -updates or -security?
[17:03] <bazhang> MartynKeigher, server is cli
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> MartynKeigher  server has no GUI by default, you have to install it
[17:03] <punky> JeyKeu, it's a just an ubuntu live with a massive recovery utils bundled
[17:03] <MartynKeigher> ah!
[17:04] <MartynKeigher> off to gogole i go!
[17:04] <MartynKeigher> *google
[17:04] <usr13> nicofs: And then, I'd restart the Xserver in order to get back on the OpenSource driver and go from there. Looks like this is what you need: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html
[17:04] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to edit my ip address permanently.  Is /etc/network/interfaces still the place ot do it?  I see an tface br0 in there, but have no idea what that might be.
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> MartynKeigher  if you want a GUI, better use the desktop iso
[17:04] <usr13> nicofs: ... or just reboot ...
[17:04] <JeyKeu> testdisk, i heard good in recovery
[17:05] <MartynKeigher> is the desktop Unity on server too, or gnome?
[17:05] <JeyKeu> sothere is no undoingmy ubuntu install?
[17:05] <nicofs> usr13, I have *-current, *-experimental and *-settings... i guess settings is the little tool i use to change my settings... ubuntu will default to built-in drivers if i just remove all nvidia stuff?
[17:05] <punky> JeyKeu it also appear in caine :-)
[17:05] <JeyKeu> I think this is a BIG flow in ubuntu installer. they should have warned my twice or something
[17:05] <BadKarMah> so 12.10 does not have Alternate ISOs anymore, does anyone know how to setup a local network install that's just big enough for "Ubuntu Desktop" , can I extract the Ubuntu Live CD and automate Ubiquity and use my existing preseed file??
[17:05] <JeyKeu> ok
[17:05] <usr13> nicofs: Yea, that might be part of the problem.  Just remove nvidia*
[17:06] <alterfi> Hey guys is there a problem with registering a nick on free node I can't seem to get it to get it tob work "/msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com"
[17:06] <jrib> alterfi: ask #freenode
[17:06] <bazhang> alterfi, ask in #freenode
[17:06] <alterfi> Thanks will do
[17:06] <usr13> nicofs: nvidia-settings will be re-installed anyway when the new software from nvidia.com is installed.
[17:07] <nicofs> philinux, usr13 rebooting... back in a sec
[17:08] <JeyKeu> I think ubuntu community should take the responsibility
[17:09] <robby_> yo
[17:09] <BadKarMah> anyone?
[17:09] <usr13> JeyKeu: responsibility for ___________________ ?
[17:09] <Note> Hi guys, does anyone know whether a 512MB Ubuntu server is big enough memory to run a very small web server and a znc?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> Note  #ubuntu-server
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> Hi, After installing graphics driver i was not able to use unity desktop
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> $ lspci | grep VGA
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[17:11] <JeyKeu> usr13: today i installed ubuntu via usbflash diskto switch from win8. the installer didnt wan me that it will delete my all three partitions which contain imporatnt data
[17:12] <JeyKeu> wan => warn*
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> JeyKeu  and your backups?
[17:13] <JeyKeu> i wasnt here if i had backups
[17:14] <usr13> JeyKeu: That's not Ubuntu's fault.  You are supposed to know what partitions can be discarded (and which ones need to be kept).
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> JeyKeu  always have backups of important files
[17:14] <craigbass1976> Where is network information stored?  I thought it was in /etc/network/interfaces, but mine has no ip info in it.  I'm set to static, so I thought I'd see the 192 stuff in there
[17:14] <JeyKeu> awarning is must
[17:14] <usr13> JeyKeu: Any time you re-partition a hard drive, you need to do backups first.
[17:15] <usr13> JeyKeu: We are sorry for your loss but not much we can do about it.
[17:15] <JeyKeu> sir i know all that stuff but right now i need to get myself out of this mess
[17:16] <GTFr0> hey, I need some help with MAAS, can I get help for it in here?  (MAAS channel seems dead...)
[17:16] <nicofs> usr13, back among the living... will install nvidia stuff now...
[17:17] <usr13> nicofs: Looks like this is what you need: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html
[17:18] <nicofs> usr13, thanks for your support :)
[17:19] <Guest67326> ohhh
[17:19] <Guest67326> hiiii
[17:20] <cakesoap> where can i find out how the ext4 file system works?
[17:21] <Guest67326> hi
[17:21] <Guest67326> cakesoap
[17:21] <Guest67326> i can hel
[17:21] <Guest67326> help
[17:21] <Guest67326> OWHHHHHHHH
[17:21] <Guest67326> WOWW
[17:21] <FloodBot1> Guest67326: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <karr> join #fsmk
[17:22] <cakesoap> what was that?
[17:22] <Guest67326> mohhh
[17:22] <Tex_Nick> cakesoap:  see if this helps ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[17:22] <usr13> craigbass1976:  Try: /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[17:23] <Eagleman> When i install sshguard from scratch ( also configured the iptables ) and edit the default of 40 login attempts in /etc/defaults/sshguard to 4, and then start the program and try to login 4 times nothing gets blocked. No rules get added to the iptables chain sshguard and nothing happens in auth.log ( except that the program started ) with ps aux | grep sshguard i can see the program is running.
[17:23] <Eagleman> Any idea what is going wrong?
[17:23] <jbroome> Eagleman: are you doing your test from localhost or an outside machine?
[17:23] <uberamd> Can anyone tell me why an transfer on gigabit ethernet over SFTP goes at 50MB/sec but over NFS it goes at 15MB/sec and dstat is reporting 98% util on the NFS server's sda?
[17:23] <usr13> craigbass1976: or  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[17:24] <Eagleman> jbroome my ubuntu server
[17:24] <craigbass1976> usr13, still no.  THere's a mac address there.
[17:24] <usr13> craigbass1976: But if you are using network-manager to handle that stuff for you, I don't see the need to tinker with the conf file.
[17:25] <usr13> craigbass1976: What exactly do you need to find?
[17:25] <jbroome> Eagleman: that doesn't really answer my question
[17:25] <usr13> craigbass1976: What is your end goal?
[17:25] <Guest67326> usr13 hhi
[17:25] <craigbass1976> usr13, I'm trying to figure out what someone else has done to their box (12.10), and looking on mine (12.04) to see what to tell them.  I've got a static ip, and so do they.  I'm just trying to see where that's set so I can just do it in vi.
[17:26] <Eagleman> jbroome outside machine on my network
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest67326  did you have a support question?
[17:26] <usr13> craigbass1976: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/what-ever
[17:26] <Guest67326> Eagleman hi
[17:26] <usr13> craigbass1976: ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/  #And try to determine which file it is.
[17:27] <craigbass1976> usr13, wow.  These used to be way more intuitive...
[17:27] <Tex_Nick> cakesoap:  you might also have a look at ... https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[17:27] <jbroome> Eagleman: http://www.sshguard.net/docs/faqs/#does-not-work
[17:27] <Eagleman> jbroome i dont really see why that matters?
[17:27] <Guest67326> hii Tex_Nick'
[17:28] <bazhang> Guest67326, this is NOT the chat channel
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest67326  this is not the place to say hi and wow and ohw
[17:28] <Eagleman> jbroome, yeh i tried that. didnt helped me
[17:28] <jbroome> Eagleman: I don't know about sshguard, but I was guessing it had an exception for localhost, and maybe LAN ip addresses.  if you were testing from localhost or your lan, that might explain why it wasn't working.
[17:28] <usr13> craigbass1976: It can be. Just uninstall network-manager ;)
[17:28] <Tex_Nick> Guest67326:  hey, how goes it :)
[17:28] <nomodeset> MonkeyDust: why
[17:28] <Eagleman> the only whitelist it has is 127.0.0.1
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> nomodeset  why what?
[17:29] <nomodeset> MonkeyDust: "this is not the place to say hi and wow and ohw"
[17:30] <Guest67326> hiiii
[17:30] <Pici> !offtopic | nomodeset Guest67326
[17:30] <maymann> Hi, I have a question regarding openconnect - is this the right place to ask about this ?
[17:31] <nomodeset> Pici: thanks
[17:33] <usr13> maymann: Maybe.  Ask your question and see...
[17:34] <craigbass1976> usr13, and I don't see a gateway in that file.  And I had no idea network-manager can be removed with no adverse effects...
[17:35] <Eagleman> When i install sshguard from scratch ( also configured the iptables ) and edit the default of 40 login attempts in /etc/defaults/sshguard to 4, and then start the program and try to login 4 times nothing gets blocked. No rules get added to the iptables chain sshguard and nothing happens in auth.log ( except that the program started ) with ps aux | grep sshguard i can see the program is running.
[17:35] <Eagleman> Any idea what is going wrong?
[17:36] <Guest67326> hiii
[17:36] <GTFr0> ok, MAAS question:  I'm having problems with nodes being stuck on "commissioning".  It doesn't seem to be an oath time-skew problem (added ntpdate in the cloud-init script to run on startup).  Any other ideas what it might be?  The nodes are HP Proliant DL380e Gen8 servers with intel i350-T4 onboard ethernet
[17:36] <usr13> maymann: apt-cache showpkg openconnect  #May tell you what you need to know.
[17:36] <maymann> usr13: I need to configure VPN connection to Cisco ASA (windows clients use AnyConnect with company cert+Radius authentication). I have got now a test-cert, but am unsure how to configure the VPN connection in Network-manager with openconnect plugin (I am able to chose OpenConnect type from Network-Manager)...
[17:37] <usr13> craigbass1976: The only adverse effect is that you would need to edit /etc/network/interfaces to set up your network connection.
[17:37] <moikkajd> hi
[17:38] <Guest67326> hi
[17:38] <Guest44333> hey guys  i have a question i hope you can help me
[17:38] <Guest67326> moikkajd
[17:38] <Guest67326> hi
[17:38] <Guest67326> heklp
[17:38] <usr13> maymann: I don't know, but there *is* a package called network-manager-openconnect
[17:38] <jbroome> Guest67326: yes?
[17:38] <Myrtti> Guest67326: did you have a Ubuntu support question or problem?
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> 1ask | Guest44333
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | Guest44333
[17:39] <maymann> usr13: yes this I have installed
[17:39] <maymann> usr13: when I connect it tells me:
[17:39] <Guest44333> listen I'm trying to install jabbered in ubuntu however i keep receiving this error
[17:39] <Guest44333> Couldn't find required libidn installation
[17:39] <usr13> maymann:  I see:  network-manager-openconnect network-manager-openconnect-gnome libopenconnect-dev & openconnect
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest44333, what's this "jabbered" thing you speak of? I can't find it.
[17:40] <AlanBell> Guest44333: you can install jabberd with sudo apt-get install jabberd2 and it will pull in all the dependencies
[17:40] <purplerain> hai. which driver i should install for bcm4313, i tried the proprietary wl but the connections is really slow, and if im using brcmsmac driver it won' detect any connections at all.
[17:40] <Guest44333> listen I'm trying to install jabberd14 in ubuntu however i keep receiving this error
[17:40] <Guest44333> its jabberd14
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> !find jabberd
[17:41] <usr13> Guest44333: How about jabberd2 ?
[17:41] <Guest44333> its required to install jabberd14 jabbered 2 its a different project
[17:41] <AlanBell> Guest44333: where did you get it from? what installation instructions are you following (sudo apt-get install libidn2-0 might fix your issue)
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest67326  then it may be outside the scope of this support channel
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest6733  then it may be outside the scope of this support channel
[17:42] <Eagleman> When i install sshguard from scratch ( also configured the iptables ) and edit the default of 40 login attempts in /etc/defaults/sshguard to 4, and then start the program and try to login 4 times nothing gets blocked. No rules get added to the iptables chain sshguard and nothing happens in auth.log ( except that the program started ) with ps aux | grep sshguard i can see the program is running.
[17:42] <Eagleman> Any idea what is going wrong?
[17:43] <Tex_Nick> Guest44333:  some libidn packages can be found in Synaptic
[17:43] <Guest44333> http://jabberd.org/1.4/doc/adminguide
[17:43] <maymann> usr13: is installed,not libopenconnect-dev - this is not available it seems
[17:43] <AlanBell> Tex_Nick: synaptic!! we haven't used that for a while
[17:44] <Guest44333> the messahe that i receive is this
[17:44] <Guest44333>  Couldn't find required libidn installation
[17:44] <maymann> usr13: this is in /var/log/syslog when i try to connect
[17:44] <usr13> Eagleman: What is your end goal? (Why did you not use the package manager?)
[17:44] <maymann> usr13: Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> Starting VPN service 'openconnect'... Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN service 'openconnect' started (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openconnect), PID 2529 Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN service 'openconnect' appeared; activating connections Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN plugin state changed: 1 Feb  6
[17:44] <Guest44333> when i try to install via the package that i've downloaded
[17:44] <Eagleman> usr13, i did use apt-get install sshguard
[17:45] <Tex_Nick> AlanBell : out of curosity ... why not ?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest44333  the version you want to use, is not supported here
[17:45] <AlanBell> Guest44333: ok, so you are installing the upstream tarball directly, this isn't a debian package so it doesn't have dependency information in it, so you need to install various dependencies
[17:45] <maymann> usr13: Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> Starting VPN service 'openconnect'... Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN service 'openconnect' started (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openconnect), PID 2529 Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN service 'openconnect' appeared; activating connections Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN plugin state changed: 1 Feb  6
[17:45] <AlanBell> Tex_Nick: software center is the new GUI for package installation
[17:45] <maymann> usr13: 4]: <info> VPN connection 'CPHVPN' (Connect) reply received. Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <warn> VPN connection 'CPHVPN' failed to connect: 'No VPN secrets!'. Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <warn> error disconnecting VPN: Could not process the request because no VPN connection was active. Feb  6 18:38:26 netbook NetworkManager[474]: <info> Policy set 'GreatSuccess' (eth1) as default for IPv4 rou
[17:45] <Eagleman> usr13, i did use apt-get install sshguard, the end goal is to ban IP addresses at 4x wrong entered credentials
[17:46] <maymann> usr13: ok NetworkManager[474]: <info> VPN service 'openconnect' disappeared
[17:46] <AlanBell> Guest44333: generally sudo apt-get install <thing it asks for > <tab><tab> will give you the package names, so sudo apt-get install libidn<tab><tab> for example
[17:46] <usr13> Eagleman: How about man sshguard or http://www.sshguard.net/docs/man/sshguard/ ?
[17:46] <jrib> Eagleman: not an answer to your question, but you could consider denyhosts or fail2ban as alternatives
[17:46] <AlanBell> Guest44333: that might get it a bit further but you will need to repeat that process with different dependencies until it starts up
[17:47] <Tex_Nick> AlanBell : i realize that, however synaptic will sometimes provide solutions that software center doesn't :)
[17:47] <XtremeWiz> Hi everyone. My system's sound goes muted every time I restart. I have to go to alsamixer and disable 'automute' to get sound back. Any idea why this is happening?
[17:48] <usr13> Eagleman: Sorry I missunderstood when you said "When i install sshguard from scratch".
[17:48] <AlanBell> Guest44333: incidentally jabberd14 used to be in debian and ubuntu but was dropped in debian bug 650105
[17:48] <Eagleman> usr13 it should work out of the box right?
[17:49] <makara-> hi. I messed up my bootloader being greedy. I read an article in hackernews about e4rat and installed it. But apparently Ubuntu already has it's own. So I uninstalled it, but now Ubuntu's loader (forget the name) doesn't run. No 1. No2, I installed BUM to turn off services on system startup and I see openarena-server activated?? I uninstalled OpenArena ages ago, and looking in Synaptic there's nothing there. Any ideas?
[17:49] <usr13> Eagleman: I would suppose so, yes, but I don't know, (I have no experience with sshguard)(yet).
[17:50] <usr13> Eagleman: What about jrib's suggestion?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> XtremeWiz  install dconf-editor, open it and go to com > canonical > indicator > sound
[17:50] <Eagleman> usr13 i tried fail2ban but it seems to complicated, sshguard is not any better at the moment
[17:51] <XtremeWiz> MonkeyDust: Thanks, let me try. sudo apt-get install dconf-editor ?
[17:51] <jrib> Eagleman: personally, I use denyhosts.  Should work out of the box
[17:51] <usr13> Eagleman: They're probably both too complicated for me ;)
[17:52] <Wizek> Deja-dup only copies files, or is it smart about it and only backs up those that changed lately? (like git)
[17:53] <usr13> jrib: Well, I suppose sshguard writes iptable rules on the fly.  Right Eagleman ?
[17:53] <Eagleman> it does usr13 but the writing part fails
[17:53] <usr13> Eagleman: It'd be nice to see what it's doing as it's doing it.  I wonder if there is some sort of debug mode?
[17:54] <usr13> Eagleman: Does it do any logging?
[17:54] <Eagleman> usr13 so far i've only found a starting and stopping log line in auth.log
[17:55] <Eagleman> But i've just locked myself out of my server, did something wrong with my new testing iptables. Auto reset should kick in each 10 minutes
[17:56] <notk0> hello at random times synclient stops working, restarting fixes the issue
[17:56] <usr13> Eagleman: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/iptables*  ?
[17:56] <alterfi> Hey guys is there a good channel I could get on for help trubleshooting wireless card in ubuntu
[17:56] <usr13> Eagleman: Oh, never mind....
[17:56] <Eagleman> usr13, will reset the tables mannually, brb
[17:57] <delarge> hi there, I have a IBM with a CPU Intel Xeon @ 3.17 GHz x 4 (quad core) with a Ubuntu 12.10 installed just a few minutes ago ( without any extra package installed) and watching the system monitor I see the 4 CPU btween he 50% and 100% of usage.  For this reason, i suppose, the OS works slowly
[17:59] <delarge> what can be the problem?
[17:59] <delarge> alterfi: #linux-wireless maybe
[17:59] <pooltable> hi help on viedo card select ?
[17:59] <Eagleman> usr13, i am logged in aigan
[18:00] <maymann> Any recommendations to setting up a strict+secure interactive ssh gateway
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maymann  first s in sh means secure
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maymann  first s in ssh means secure
[18:01] <maymann> MonkeyDust: yes, but this can still be bruteforced if opened to Internet->Inside
[18:02] <pooltable> from nvida 650 and amd 7770?
[18:02] <alterfi> Thanks
[18:02] <pooltable> what is best ?
[18:02] <Jpmh> maymann: operate on a non tandard port number reduces number of attempt to access
[18:03] <maymann> MonkeyDust: In my earlier company "someone" had setup a interactive SSHGW, so it asked destination_host and destination_user
[18:04] <Eagleman> Is sshguard bugged when i get it out of the normal repository's ?
[18:04] <maymann> Jpmh: yes, but thinking more like e.g pfsense with SSHGuard+some interactive tool - maybe something even very easy to setup
[18:04] <pooltable> what is better ?from nvida 650 and amd 7770?
[18:05] <maymann> know it is perhaps off-topic, but anyways...
[18:05] <bindi> any portable cli torrent clients?
[18:06] <nownot> I'm having issues with my rtl8111/8168b network. it downloads really slow and sometimes just decides to stop all traffic all together. I've installed the r8168 drivers but lsmod shows 0 in the Used By column. any ideas?
[18:06] <Jpmh> maymann: my systems use standard ssh with a non-standard port and secondary authentication performed by the shell for the users
[18:07] <maymann> Jpmh: I assume this is Internet->Internal. I need this to work also Internal->Internet
[18:08] <ioria> bindi: i use aria2, i don't know if it's portable :-)
[18:08] <Jpmh> maymann: yes even internet-internet
[18:08] <guest98389> My system time keeps changing after I change it back, how can I stop it from changing>
[18:08] <bindi> ioria: by portable i mean something that doesn't need root to install
[18:09] <Jpmh> guest98389: time zone?
[18:09] <maymann> Jpmh: ok thanks
[18:09] <Dave77> what DVB tv software is there for ubuntu?
[18:10] <ioria> bindi: i think that all the apps require sudo command .. but you can download the source, compile, and instead of installing, using it from the src folder
[18:10] <guest98389> Jpmh, how do I change my time zone? I'm pretty sure I set it to the correct one during install
[18:10] <SunilJoshi> Hi, how can i retain the brightness and contrast of my laptop, i am using ubuntu 12.10. Everytime i restart... it comes back to full brightness mode
[18:10] <bindi> ioria: trying that atm
[18:10] <Jpmh> guest98389: pls set a real id so we can respond more easily
[18:12] <rsingh> Can anyone help me with setting up the custom browser command?  I want for it to open my browser (firefox-trunk) if it's not open, or if it is open, open the selected URL in a new tab
[18:12] <rsingh> (in keepassx)
[18:12] <MaynardWaters> hello i have a 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB SATA RAID Controller (rev 09) with 2 drive on it. I am trying to install ubuntu server 12.04, the installation goes fine until it tries to install grub... at that point grub is unable to install anywhere.  can anyone offer me any suggestions, please
[18:13] <Jpmh> rsingh: this is not a ubuntu question but one for your browser
[18:13] <L3top> MaynardWaters: What kind of RAID (if any) have you setup?
[18:13] <nownot> I'm having issues with my rtl8111/8168b network. it downloads really slow and sometimes just decides to stop all traffic all together. I've installed the r8168 drivers but lsmod shows 0 in the Used By column. any ideas?
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> L3top: i used the ubuntu defaults
[18:14] <MaynardWaters> it was "striped"
[18:14] <rsingh> Jpmh: Yeah, I just figured there'd be a lot of people using both Firefox and keepassx here
[18:14] <ClientAlive> My new lappy runs super hot all the time. Could there be a problem with some settings or with power mangement or something?
[18:14] <L3top> MaynardWaters: What is the current state of the install? Is it up? Can we bang commands at it?
[18:15] <MaynardWaters> L3top: i have been able to boot from a usb
[18:15] <MaynardWaters> i have a ubuntu desktop running on it currently 32 bit, the install is 64
[18:15] <L3top> Ok... lets boot it up and see what: sudo fdisk -l        says MaynardWaters
[18:15] <MaynardWaters> so we can try things... i could also boot again from the install disk and attempt the recover option, you tell me which you think is better and Ill do it
[18:16] <L3top> What is the current OS on it?
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> when i did that while trying to install it gave no useful info
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> when i do that right now
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> it obviously sees the live external usb
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> and it sees each of the raid devices individually
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> on sda it shows 3 partitions
[18:16] <MaynardWaters> 1,2,5
[18:17] <MaynardWaters> 1 linux, 2 extended, 5 unknown
[18:17] <MaynardWaters> sdb doesnt have a valid parition table
[18:17]  * MaynardWaters is concerned some of his later efforts may have re-wiped the install... 
[18:18] <L3top> Ok... so it is trying to install to just one of the disks. Your raid controller SHOULD have its OWN setup, in which you specify the options. I would expect it to be seen as a single drive... but RAID is not a strong area for me.
[18:18] <MaynardWaters> perhaps i should start again from scratch.... and let you know when i get back to the grub errors?
[18:18] <theuser> hi
[18:18] <MaynardWaters> L3top: that sounds like a lot of stuff which needs to be loaded prior to the bootloader
[18:18] <L3top> Yes... tell me... when you get to post screen from the bios MaynardWaters... do you have a specific option to enter RAID setup?
[18:18] <theuser> I read that multiseat support is improved in 12.10?
[18:19] <theuser> What exactly does that mean?
[18:19] <MaynardWaters> L3top: will reboot and report back.
[18:19] <L3top> k
[18:19] <theuser> I've been unable to find more elaborate info about what exactly is improved
[18:19] <nedbat> I'm trying to limit a user's resource with pam_limits.so, and a .conf in /etc/security/limits.d.  It works when I su as that user, but not when I sudo -u as that user.  Am I right?
[18:21] <MaynardWaters> L3top: bios reports 3 SATA Operation options: 1 RAID Autodetect/AHCI  2 RAID Autodetect ATA  3 RAID On
[18:22] <MaynardWaters> currently set to 1
[18:22]  * MaynardWaters thinks RAID On is possibly a better choice
[18:22] <L3top> Try 2. if that doesn't gel try 3.
[18:22] <L3top> I would try 2 first.
[18:23] <MaynardWaters> good deal
[18:23] <ClientAlive> My new lappy runs super hot all the time. Could there be a problem?
[18:25] <pat__> Need some help with xrdp. Using a windows 7 box to connect on my lan, I need to enlarge my screen on the win7 box. Is quite small. Have it set to Full Screen in my win rdp.
[18:26] <phoenixsampras> ClientAlive: coz ubuntu sucks handling the power supply, i have suspend and hibernate problems
[18:26] <ClientAlive> phoenixsampras: I see
[18:27] <Nick07> I need to know howto make my ubuntu 10.10 start and login without monitor
[18:27] <theuser> ClientAlive, Make sure nothing is blocking the fanven on the bottom and dise
[18:27] <ClientAlive> well I wish I could sort it out bc it's pretty imprtant not to let my new $1600 peice of equipment do that  :p
[18:27] <xangua> !eol | Nick07
[18:27] <ClientAlive> theuser: I will look for any packaging that may have been missed. I try to be carful of that when I'm using it.
[18:28] <Nick07> I need to know howto make my ubuntu 12.10 start and login without monitor
[18:28] <MaynardWaters> L3top: its hung on Retrieving grub-installer
[18:28] <theuser> ClientAlive, if you get a laptop cooler make sure it actually blows on the right spots and allow proper clearance for air circulation
[18:28] <theuser> Some laptops have way too short legs
[18:28] <theuser> feet
[18:29] <theuser> ClientAlive, Some laptops have too short rubber feet so they will suffocate the cpu fan, sitting on a flat table
[18:29] <MaynardWaters> ClientAlive: i have put a laptop up on "rails" to allow much better air circulation below
[18:30] <theuser> ClientAlive, MaynardWaters, thats not a bad idea
[18:30] <theuser> or somehow prop it up in the back just to give the fan some space to suck easier
[18:30] <ClientAlive> theuser: I can see throught the vents and nothing seems to be obstructing them. I was hoping to avoid the expanse of a cooler. I'd like to check for configurations, boot options, whatnot to be sure that is all dialed in. No, this one has feet but only about 1/8 inch off the ground.
[18:31] <theuser> ClientAlive, what model/brand?
[18:31] <grahamcracker> whats the best window manager
[18:31] <ClientAlive> MaynardWaters: All else failing - yes
[18:31] <mapc77> Hey guys I'm trying to install jabberd14 in ubuntu
[18:31] <DJones> !best | grahamcracker It depends what suits you,
[18:31] <mapc77> and I'm getting this
[18:31] <ClientAlive> the it's an HP dv7t-7200 quad
[18:31] <mapc77>  Couldn't find required libidn installation
[18:31] <Aleksander> Hello. Can you explain my why exactly is Canonical replacing xorg? I don't get it.
[18:31] <grahamcracker> ok
[18:31] <grahamcracker> ok bot
[18:32] <ClientAlive> theuser: sorry: it's an HP dv7t-7200 quad
[18:32] <mapc77> any suggestion?
[18:33] <pat__> BUMP - Need some help with xrdp. Using a windows 7 box to connect on my lan, I need to enlarge my screen on the win7 box. Is quite small. Have it set to Full Screen in my win rdp.
[18:33] <iceroot> Aleksander: its not only canocial which will replace xorg
[18:33] <MaynardWaters> L3top: i am at the point where i am going to partition the disks again
[18:33] <theuser> ClientAlive, this one: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6702&review=hp+envy+dv7+dv7t
[18:33] <MaynardWaters> I want to choose guided- use entire disk
[18:33] <iceroot> Aleksander: its just because xorg is very old and there are better solutions
[18:33] <MaynardWaters> but i alove hace choises to do that and set up LVM
[18:33] <MaynardWaters> or manual
[18:34] <MaynardWaters> going to choose use entire disk, unless you suggest otherwise, L3top
[18:34] <Aleksander> iceroot, who else? and what will Weyland change for enduser?
[18:34] <L3top> that works for me MaynardWaters
[18:35] <g0tcha> hey guys, i have user1 with a directory called folder1, how can i give pemission to user2 to folder1 owned by user1 ?
[18:35] <ClientAlive> theuser: looks like it: mine...  i7-3820 cpu, nvidia geforce gt650m (fwiw)
[18:35] <wolftune> so I want to get my Apple Magic Trackpad to work with Ubuntu. I saw the wiki.ubuntu page, and a couple times I got it to work. Is it necessary to turn the Mac off first?
[18:35] <iceroot> Aleksander: have a look at google for details about wayland. i guess every distro will change to wayland in the next 5 years
[18:35] <theuser> ClientAlive, Try to prop it up another cm in the back
[18:35] <wolftune> oh by "got it to work" I mean it showed in the list, but I never had it function
[18:35] <ClientAlive> theuser: ok
[18:35] <jbroome> wolftune: i imagine the trackpad would need to be paired with only one machine for it to work
[18:35] <ClientAlive> theuser: is there any way to see the fan speed and check it against spec?
[18:35] <iceroot> Aleksander: the complete network-stack from xorg will be replaced, there are new composer technics, it will allow something like "ssh -X" in a usefull way
[18:36] <theuser> ClientAlive, make sure you don't block air vents when you doing so.... defeating the purpos
[18:36] <wolftune> jbroome: ok
[18:36] <MaynardWaters> L3top: it plans on making part 1 ext4 and part 5 swap.... nothing else noted
[18:36] <iceroot> Aleksander: but it will be a big change and needs some time
[18:36] <iceroot> Aleksander: maybe the biggest change in the last 10 years related to GNU/Linux
[18:37] <Aleksander> iceroot, I understud, I just haven't found what'll it give to endusers
[18:37] <Aleksander> understood*
[18:37] <iceroot> Aleksander: performance
[18:38] <Aleksander> iceroot, noticeable change?
[18:38] <anonymousraptr> where would i go to ask if a model of asus laptop will work with ubuntu?
[18:39] <xangua> !hardware | anonymousraptr
[18:39] <iceroot> Aleksander: for the normal useage you will not see a big difference
[18:39] <iceroot> Aleksander: its the same like hal/udev, the enduser (normal user) will not see the difference
[18:39] <usr13> Aleksander: I think it's all supposition at this point. Right iceroot ?  I haven't tried it, have you?
[18:39] <iceroot> usr13: yes i tried it with 12.04
[18:40] <usr13> iceroot: Ok, well carry on... (good to know)...
[18:40] <g0tcha> i need some help with folder permissions, i have user1 with a directory called folder1, how can i give pemission to user2 to folder1 owned by user1 ?
[18:40] <usr13> (it's not just hear-say).
[18:40] <wolftune> I get a timeout trying to connect my bluetooth apple trackpad
[18:40] <Aleksander> iceroot, usr13 thank you
[18:40] <iceroot> usr13: but still not very usefull because alot of stuff is missing. e.g. gtk was not build against wayland so there was a complete rebuild needed and only basic things were working at my tests
[18:40] <wolftune> it shows in the list but timeout and not actually fully connecting
[18:40] <anonymousraptr> xangua: if it is so new that it is not listed on the certified hardware list, but the model previous worked?  example: asus k55a not listed, but asus k54 is?
[18:41] <theuser> ClientAlive, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/jupiter-light-weight-power-and-hardware-control-applet.html
[18:41] <modgod> i want to install mtop but i keep getting warning:preset Curses?type of messages
[18:41] <modgod> some for DBD and DBI not being found too
[18:41] <modgod> how do I resolve this?
[18:41] <andre> ola
[18:42] <guideX> if I know about a glitch with gftp, should I report it here or?
[18:42] <ClientAlive> theuser: cool. Also, I see a couple tools for monitoring and/or settings for fan speed and other things. Seems like somthing to make a good choice about though  :p
[18:42] <iceroot> !bug | guideX
[18:43] <guideX> ubuntu-bug gftp "When a file already exists on the target ftp server, and I choose to overwrite, the contents of the file do not get over-written, but the ftp client reports that the file is overwritten"
[18:43] <guideX> ?? ubuntu-bug gftp "When a file already exists on the target ftp server, and I choose to overwrite, the contents of the file do not get over-written, but the ftp client reports that the file is overwritten"
[18:44] <guideX> hmm .. did I do it right?
[18:44] <iceroot> guideX: "ubuntu-bug packagename" on your local shell, not here
[18:44] <guideX> oh ok
[18:44] <guideX> on my shell?
[18:44] <guideX> in the terminal?
[18:44] <iceroot> guideX: yes
[18:44] <guideX> ah ok
[18:44] <usr13> modgod: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:44] <theuser> ClientAlive, unless you have a panasonic tough book.... never cool your computer with cold beer
[18:45] <ClientAlive> theuser: ha ha  :)
[18:46] <jemadux> do you know any program or command to understant which program uses my connection for download or upload ?
[18:46] <modgod> usr13: I have version 12.04
[18:46] <modgod> i just set up the server a few days ago to be web ready, but i'm use to centos5.5 so ubuntu is still new to me
[18:49] <compdoc> modgod, did you select LAMP during the install?
[18:49] <ClientAlive> theuser: so I installed jupiter to check it out. I opened dash, found it, and clicked the icon to launch. I get a window pops up (which has been going on for some time now anyway) that says: "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced and internal error."
[18:50] <theuser> ClientAlive, Did you try 12.10?
[18:51] <ClientAlive> theuser: I'd rather have an LTS version (though I hear Ubuntu is phasing the scheme out).
[18:52] <nedbat> I'm trying to limit a user's resource with pam_limits.so, and a .conf in /etc/security/limits.d.  It works when I su as that user, but not when I sudo -u as that user.  Am I right?
[18:52] <jey> how do I disable the bullshit bash completion that tries to be intelligent but just gets in the fucking way all the time? I just want the normal behavior where it just completes paths without trying to guess what I'm doing and refusing to complete paths
[18:52] <compdoc>  phasing out LTS would be a mistake
[18:52] <MaynardWaters> L3top: back to the boot loader install prompt
[18:52] <MaynardWaters> default /dev/mapper failed
[18:52] <theuser> ClientAlive, for desktop  i favour just sticking with the freshest version, but wait a few weeks to a month from the release date to upgrade
[18:52] <Pici> jey: enough with the cursing.
[18:52] <MaynardWaters> during the partitioning i saw /dev/mapper/isw_bhciaffgai_ARRAY
[18:52] <MaynardWaters> im going to try that location
[18:53] <L3top> MaynardWaters: please explain what you mean by boot loader install prompt? You mean you rebooted and you are back at the installer menu? If so, remove the media and reboot.
[18:53] <L3top> media = cd/dvd/usb drive you isntalled from
[18:53] <MaynardWaters> L3top: after chaning the Raid config in the bios i started a fresh install
[18:53] <MaynardWaters> then i got the the grub install part
[18:54] <MaynardWaters> which is where it has continually failed in the past
[18:54] <MaynardWaters> i have now entered the /dev/mapper/isw_ from above, because I saw that during the partitioning part
[18:54] <MaynardWaters> it appears to have correctly installed grub and completed the installation
[18:54] <MaynardWaters> will try a reboot now and see if it can boot
[18:55] <L3top> excellent. Make sure you eject whatever install medium you used
[18:55] <MaynardWaters> yes!
[18:55] <MaynardWaters> thanks L3top i should have thought about trying different bios configs
[18:56] <MaynardWaters> L3top: ++ Hero of the day
[18:56] <L3top> !yay
[18:58] <sliva> hey guys i'm having problems getting unity webapps to work
[18:58] <ClientAlive> if I click "details" in the window that says: "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced and internal error." I get: "http://i.imgur.com/v9ES4S6.png" <- shows some details. This Error has been occuring sometimes ever since I installed Ubuntu a week ago.
[18:58] <sliva> they work on 12.10 amd64 firefox right?
[18:58] <ClientAlive> What can I do?
[19:01] <sliva> do i need a firefox plugin/addon or smtn ?
[19:01] <ClientAlive> I removed jupiter but what to do about the original problem?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> sliva  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong
[19:02] <Dino1003> Hello All, just installed 12.10 32 BIT and it is running surprisingly slow! any good reviews on the 64 bit version? operable with most day to day software?
 : No I didn't select LAMP during install. I installed everything individually
[19:02] <modgod> apt-get mysql, apache2
[19:03] <modgod> etc
[19:03] <sliva> MonkeyDust: i followed this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/unity-webapps-available-in-ubuntu-1210.html
[19:03] <sliva> how ever when i visit the page (for example facebook) nothing happens
[19:03] <sliva> it installs ok
[19:04] <compdoc> modgod, I always choose OpenSSH, LAMP, Print server, and Samba from that install screen. Works like a charm
[19:06] <daddyjoseph97> requisite preamble - google not being a friend today, no solutions seem relevant to this problem; I've been trying a bunch of slimming solutions for ubuntu 12.10 however with lxde. openbox, fluxbox, wow... forgot all the others, well same issue happens: menus of all sorts (including 'official dialogues' like verifying shutdown, logout, etc) are mostly offscreen and I can't find a solution to fix this problem.  I have been tryin
[19:07] <sliva> MonkeyDust: do you got any idea what that could be ?
[19:07] <modgod> compdoc: but if I alreayd have a server set up with a client looking at the website for review, will doing an "apt-get install lamp " break and overide anything?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> sliva  no, i don't use firefox or webapps myself
[19:07] <daddyjoseph97> anyone know about this issue or some useful phrases or names of the concepts that would give info to use now and I can bookmark for the future?
[19:07] <compdoc> modgod, not even sure thats an option for apt-get, but worth a try I guess
[19:09] <modgod> compdoc:  i'm doing everything from the command line. I just don't want to break anything if its not broken already. If it was for personal use thats one thing, but I don't want to expiernent on server containing websites for client review
[19:10] <compdoc> modgod, try asking in ##linux too. maybe someone has the experience
[19:11] <compdoc> modgod, or the ubuntu-users mailing list
[19:11] <nearst> hi all
[19:12] <pat__> Bump - Any XRDP Heros out there? Need some help with xrdp. Using a windows 7 box to connect on my lan, I need to enlarge my screen on the win7 box. Is quite small. Have it set to Full Screen in my win rdp.
[19:12] <usr13> modgod: Is this a fresh install?
[19:13] <usr13> modgod: Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:13] <nearst> pat__, try use remmina
[19:13] <usr13> modgod: Have you done updates?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:14] <pat__> nearst: To connect from a win7 client?
[19:15] <nearst> ...
[19:17] <nedbat> if I try to install "timelimit", I'm told it can't be authenticated, how can I get apt-get (or another part of apt) to show me why?
[19:17] <modgod> usr13: I don't think I have
[19:17] <RocketLauncher> Oh god I can't mofve my mouse someone help me
[19:17] <ravur> how to setup two NIC cards attached to two different internet providers to provide fault tolerance?
[19:17] <RocketLauncher> It's a touchpad
[19:17] <RocketLauncher> I loaded gnome-settings-daemon and I'm using MATE, which is a Gnome 2 fork
[19:17] <RocketLauncher> i loaded gnome-settings-daemon because it has my media keys working fine and i'm lazy
[19:18] <modgod> usr13, sorry i meant to say Ubuntu 12.10
[19:23] <swiftkick> sup guise
[19:23] <swiftkick> i was just re-running the latest xubuntu installer... which appears to be the same as the latest ubuntu installer
[19:23] <swiftkick> no more mdraid support from the installer?
[19:34] <jonascj> hi everyone. I have a problem with vim (and maybe gnome-terminal). I have tried to get the solarized color theme to work (http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized) but compared to this screenshot http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized/img/screen-c-dark.png I have a darker background behind characters. What might cause VIM to put a different background behind characters?
[19:36] <kbrosnan> jonascj: not sure if ubuntu uses 256 color xterm by default yet. might be stuck with the 16 color for right now
[19:37] <jonascj> kbrosnan: so you think the background color glitch is caused by the number of available colors?
[19:38] <Tex_Nick> jonascj:  if you don't get an answer here you might try asking in #vim
[19:38] <kbrosnan> jonascj: it is a possiblity. i may be completely wrong though.
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> jonascj  from the help file: "The terminal emulation can only use 16 colors at a time to draw text. The color palette specifies these 16 colors. Applications that run in the terminal use an index number to specify a color from this palette."
[19:44] <jonascj> thanks everyone. I'll look into the number of colors in the terminal used by ubuntu and check #vim if I cannot figure it out
[19:47] <cristian_c> hi
[19:48] <cristian_c> I run the suspension, but when I resume, things are not much working, for example chromium
[19:49] <cristian_c> I can't open it, and if I launch it from terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[19:49] <cristian_c> I've found that 00:02.1 is the video out, but nothing else :(
[19:49] <cristian_c> how can I solve it?
[19:51] <hillary> Is there ubuntu certification or it is the same as linux certification?
[19:51] <hillary> Need to know all linux certifications
[19:53] <iceroot> hillary: ask for example the guys from LPI
[19:53] <iceroot> hillary: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> hillary  certified soft/hardware : http://www.ubuntu.com/partners
[19:54] <krabador> hi people, i would build an ubuntu live with working ati catalyst inside
[19:55] <krabador> i only want to know if ubuntu customization kit can do it
[19:55] <ozone> trying to install 12.04.1.lts on existing server. install completes but no network.  Can ping loopback and static IP but not gateway.  All network settings for eth0 are correct.  any ideas?
[19:55] <krabador> because remastersyst can0t.
[19:55] <jiffe98> any idea why ntpdate would run faster on older versions of ubuntu?
[19:56] <hillary> iceroot, MonkeyDust : thank you  for the informations
[19:56] <jiffe98> my machines running 10.10 run it in about a second or less, 11.10+ are more like 10 seconds
[19:56] <gaffington> Anyone know how to get window placement with hotkeys (Ctrl+Alt+Numpad[1-9]) to work in Gnome Classic on Ubuntu 12.10?
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> jiffe98  consider upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10
[19:56] <jey> how do I get Unity to assign a number to all running? for example, xchat has an icon in the dock/launcher thing, but for some reason doesn't have a number associated with it
[19:57] <jiffe98> MonkeyDust: I have machines of several versions including 12.04 and 12.10, 11.10-12.10 are giving me problems
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> jiffe98  it's because they are !eol
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> ah, 12.10
[19:58] <jiffe98> the machines running 8.04 and 10.10 both run ntpdate fine
[19:59] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a way to fix a broken Ubuntu 12.10 on my netbook? When I boot up I get the message that Ubuntu is in low graphic mode and no keys work anymore.
[20:00] <ozone> trying to install 12.04.1.lts on existing server. install completes but no network.  Can ping loopback and static IP but not gateway.  All network settings for eth0 are correct.  any ideas?
[20:00] <ozone> .
[20:02] <nimo> ozone, try this nmap command to study network environment: > nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 | grep scan
[20:03] <nimo> ozone, change the ip network to yours and the correct mask
[20:03] <ozone> I'll try it thanks!
[20:04] <gurjeet> After yesterday's update, my DNS lookups are slowed down to a crawling speed!!! :( It takes 18 seconds for one lookup!!
[20:04] <jiffe98> when I tcpdump I am seeing 4 packets being sent, in older versions of ubuntu each is sent in quick succession, in newer versions it seems there is a second+ delay between each one being sent
[20:04] <gurjeet> If I use the IP address directly, everything is snappy!!
[20:04] <gurjeet> I am on 12.04
[20:05] <LiquidDemocracy> It says your graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will need to configure these yourself.
[20:05] <LiquidDemocracy> What do I do?
[20:05] <nimo> ozone,  oh gosh maybe you need to install nmap first, and you are not connected to the internet :(
[20:05] <gurjeet> Any pointers on how should I go about diagnosing the DNS slowdown.
[20:06] <jiffe98> and if I copy /usr/sbin/ntpdate from a 10.10 machine to a 12.04 machine it works fine
[20:07] <jiffe98> so there's something up with the newer versions of ntpdate
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> jiffe98  report it as a !bug and add your solution
[20:09] <Gateway69> simple question, how can you boot a new ubuntu server image, and have it execute some scripts you want after boot up.. ? aka like a script outside of the image that it loads and runs, is this possible?
[20:14] <Zey> /mode $me +x
[20:15] <jhutchins_wk> Gateway69: Something like a firstboot script?
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: ipv6?
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> gurjeet: Same question - although I thought that had been fixed for a while.
[20:18] <Gateway69> jhutchins_wk : yea.. lets say i have a script that says build me a haproxy server, then another script that says build me db server, so we can automate our stack to launch, a new image, update all software on the server, install what we need and configure files
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> Gateway69  ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:18] <gurjeet> jhutchins_wk: Looks like my Cisco VPN client did something funny to /etc/resolv.conf
[20:19] <Gateway69> I think linode does this with what they call stackscripts
[20:19] <Gateway69> ok
[20:19] <Aeyoun> Hi. If anyone has experience with the ufw/iptables and allowing outgoing multicast connections, I’d apappreciatet if you could assist me with configuration. I posted the details and configuration on http://askubuntu.com/q/252101/18339
[20:20] <gurjeet> jhutchins_wk: removing/emptying the /etc/resolv.conf fixed the issue.
[20:21] <andril> hello all
[20:21] <andril> we need that Mobile OS
[20:21] <gurjeet> Now I want to know the command-line that is used to launch a program when I click on an icon in Dash
[20:22] <jiffe98> jhutchins_wk: no this is all ipv4
[20:23] <gurjeet> I click on an icon in Dash, and that used to launch a program. Now clicking on that icon refuses to launch that program. SO I want to extract the comand-line to start the same program with same options.
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: When they started enabling ipv6 by default in the kernel, DNS lookups would try that first and time out.  This made lookups when only ipv4 was available very slow until you disabled ipv6.
[20:24] <erikja> !nvidia
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: It could be that your later copies of ntpdate are trying ipv6 first and waiting for that to time out before trying ipv4.
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: Also, how are you supplying the host for ntpdate to contact?
[20:25] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[20:26] <rainbowwarrior> hi , I am having problems with update manager it keeps saying connection failed check your internet connection when I am connected to the net and I am using Ubuntu 12.10 anyone else having this problem please ?
[20:26] <jiffe98> jhutchins_wk: via commandline, by hostname and IP, doesn't matter
[20:27] <rainbowwarrior> never mind its working now , thank you
[20:28] <adam_> hi does anybody know how to set up a joystick in wine??
[20:28] <m_tadeu> hi...how can I change the default gcc version?
[20:29] <TheBondX> hello, i can't install mono-complete package in Debian
[20:29] <TheBondX> i get the following error http://pastie.org/6081897
[20:29] <xangua> TheBondX: /join #debian
[20:30] <adam_> are you running ubuntu TheBondX
[20:31] <theadmin> TheBondX: You can't install deb packages with apt-get, use sudo dpkg -i package.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:31] <meelu> I tried to assign an ipv6 /64 block, i could ping the ips locally but can't ping externally
[20:32] <jiffe98> disabling ipv6 doesn't seem to help
[20:32] <adam_> just doubleclick the downloaded file and choose to run with ubuntu software center
[20:33] <gurjeet> To answer my own question: look for .desktop file that matches your icon under /usr/share/applications/ or $HOME/.local/share/applications/
[20:36] <seanw95> Why does my wired network work in virtualbox but not standalone on its own partition?
[20:37] <xentity1x> Can anyone help setup a static ip in ubuntu
[20:37] <theadmin> seanw95: Virtualbox uses a pseudo-network adapter that always works in any recent system. Your actual one, however, may not be supported for some peculiar reason...
[20:37] <theadmin> xentity1x: Graphical interface or command-line?
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: Sorry, it was worth a try (and part of goog practice anyway if you're not using it.)
[20:37] <xentity1x> theadmin, i suppose either would work ok
[20:37] <theadmin> xentity1x: Eh, I mean your system, is it GUI or CLI?
[20:37] <seanw95> theadmin: could you assist me?
[20:37] <xentity1x> theadmin, gui
[20:37] <meelu> anyone know whats up with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1617811/
[20:37] <meelu> ipv6 setup btw
[20:38] <twobitsprite> does ubuntu server with commercial support put a paywall in front of the apt repos like how rhel does it with the rhn yum repos?
[20:38] <Chosi> hey there, there's a customer that is having trouble getting his dual monitor setup in 10.04 working. he's on 2x nvidia quadro 600 - is there anything known broken with this setup? i'd just like to know what i'm into when i try to fix it tomorrow
[20:39] <theadmin> xentity1x: Okay, click the Network Manager icon in the bottom and then Edit Connections (or open up "network connections" in the settings), then choose your connection and click Edit,  go to the IPv4 Settings tab (or IPv6 settings if you got lucky :P) and choose Method = Manual. Then enter your configuration and click "Apply".
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> meelu: Simply configuring ipv6 on your endpoint is not enough to enable it throughout the route.
[20:39] <xentity1x> theadmin, thanks simple enough
[20:40] <seanw95> theadmin: could you private message me please?
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> meelu: Is that address valid with your ISP?  Is your router capable of managing ipv6 routing?
[20:41] <theadmin> seanw95: Sorry, I really don't know how to fix an unsupported wired network adapter. Never's happened to me before.
[20:41] <seanw95> According to everyone i've tried to speak to over the past 5 days
[20:41] <seanw95> it should work out of the box
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: We try to keep support in the channel so others can contribute and benefit.
[20:41] <theadmin> seanw95: Yes, it should... What kind of a network is it? Plain ethernet or is there some sort of PPPoE, PPTP or whatnot?
[20:42] <meelu> jhutchins_wk: I got an ipv6 address block /64 from my server provider, he gave Gateway details, including Nameservers 1&2 and Netnetmask
[20:42] <seanw95> it's a Nforce 630a chipset.... Straight ethernet from my motherboard to router/modem
[20:42] <seanw95> what do you mean jhutchins_wk
[20:42] <theadmin> Oh, I had a problem with an NForce before. Dunno, it somehow fixed itself in a later release.
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> meelu: You should be able to get it working then.
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> meelu: Which release is it?
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: in channel as opposed to PM.
[20:43] <seanw95> So I should just...wait and hope for the best
[20:43] <meelu> jhutchins_wk, i just followed a guide on google Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: You might also ask in #vbox.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: I did not understand what your question was.
[20:44] <seanw95> It works fine in virtualbox
[20:44] <seanw95> I partitioned my HDD so I could dual boot ubuntu, it doesn't work there
[20:44] <axisys> i have a hp nc6320 laptop.. but the wifi led button does not work
[20:44] <axisys> no wifi.. modprove ipw2200 wokred
[20:44] <axisys> worked*
[20:44] <axisys> but how to get a network interface up?
[20:45] <theadmin> axisys: Well, first things first, do you see any networks in Networkmanager? Can you do an "iwlist wlan0 scan" or an "iwlist eth1 scan"?
[20:46] <kompa> ciao
[20:46] <seanw95> One quick question, 12.04 of 12.10 ?
[20:47] <fully_human> seanw95: Depends on what you want.  12.04 has better support but 12.10 has more features.
[20:47] <bin0> hi im having trouble installing the correct nvdia driver. Im on lubuntu 12.10 card is NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x. what is the correct driver?
[20:47] <fully_human> I'm using 12.04 right now and doin' just fine.
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> meelu: See if http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/ is any help.
[20:47] <axisys> theadmin: ~# iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:47] <axisys> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[20:47] <fully_human> bin0: Are you using jokey?
[20:47] <axisys> # iwlist eth1 scan
[20:47] <axisys> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[20:47] <fully_human> *jockey
[20:47] <axisys> theadmin: ^
[20:47] <bin0> fully_human: it gives me an error wioth typelib
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: Please do an lspci -nn and paste the eight character pciid of the network card.
[20:48] <bin0> and doesnt find any driver
[20:48] <seanw95> fully_human: I'm new to linux and trying to get a general feel for it and learn bacis in terminal & whatnot. Would the features REALLY affect me?
[20:48] <theadmin> axisys: ...Hm. Do you see your network device with "lspci | grep -i net"?
[20:48] <Shadowcat> hey guys
[20:48] <Shadowcat> got a really nice error
[20:48] <Shadowcat> I belong to a group that has full permissions to a directory
[20:48] <fully_human> seanw95: I would suggest burning both live onto a CD.
[20:48] <seanw95> jutchins_wk: Okay. I'll just have to boot into ubuntu and webIRC back here on my laptop
[20:48] <Shadowcat> I still cannot create files in that directory
[20:49] <fully_human> bin0: What are you running?
[20:49] <axisys> theadmin: # lspci | grep -i net
[20:49] <axisys> 02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
[20:49] <seanw95> Thanks fully_human =]
[20:49] <fully_human> bin0: What command, program...?
[20:49] <fully_human> seanw95: No prob.
[20:49] <bin0> i just reinstalled nouveau but its slow and has the wrong resolutuion
[20:50] <theadmin> axisys: Hm, okay, so that's not the module you're looking for. Do you have a Ethernet connection available? If so, we could search for a driver for your wireless adapter
[20:50] <bin0> fully_human: i ran apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia settings
[20:50] <axisys> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1617853/ ipw in dmesg
[20:50] <bin0> fully_human: nvidia-settings tells me the driver isnt in use though
[20:50] <meelu> jhutchins_wk: Thanks i saw that guide before but couldn't follow it through, got confused because it only mentions using one ip, thanks
[20:50] <axisys> theadmin: i do
[20:50] <fully_human> bin0: I got my graphics driver working with jockey.  Open up a terminal type "sudo apt-get install jockey jockey-gtk"  Run jockey-gtk and install the recommended driver they list.  Reinstall.
[20:50] <theadmin> axisys: Okay, open up Jockey ("Additional Drivers"), does it find anything?
[20:50] <axisys> theadmin: i am using a different laptop for this
[20:50] <theadmin> Oh.
[20:50] <axisys> theadmin: Jockey?
[20:50] <fully_human> To other folks...why did Ubuntu remove jockey by default?
[20:51] <Salve> How do I download kernel 3.5-rc2? I can't find it anywhereplace. :::)
[20:51] <theadmin> axisys: It's an Ubuntu app that searches for drivers for your hardware
[20:51] <theadmin> Salve: Unsupported kernels are unsupported.
[20:51] <theadmin> ...long cat is long
[20:51] <axisys> is the the ubuntu logo on the top left corner?
[20:51] <Salve> theadmin: but, does it exist?
[20:51] <bin0> fully_human: jockey-gtk package installed only the terminal verison
[20:51] <axisys> ok.. let me type jockey, see what I find
[20:52] <Salve> theadmin: google returns nadda
[20:52] <bin0> fully_human: no idea why
[20:52] <theadmin> Salve: It may exist, check kernel.org for details. But, the only kernels supported by Ubuntu are those which are in the Ubuntu repositories and that's it
[20:52] <WeThePeople> what is the command to launch the app where i can change proxies?
[20:52] <fully_human> bin0: Did you install jockey as well?
[20:52] <fully_human> bin0: Just plain "jockey" as well as "jockey-gtk"?
[20:52] <bin0> fully_human:that package wasnt found, only the one withgtk
[20:53] <bin0> im useing lubuntu maybe thats the problem?
[20:53] <thisboy> !seen w4sp
[20:53] <thisboy> ig
[20:53] <thisboy> * oh
[20:53] <Salve> theadmin: perfect, thanks
[20:53] <thisboy> anybody seen w4sp lately though?
[20:53] <theadmin> !ot | thisboy
[20:53] <fully_human> bin0: jockey-common and jockey-gtk, sorry about that.
[20:54] <trism> bin0: the interface formerly know as jockey was moved to software-properties-gtk in 12.10
[20:54] <theadmin> fully_human: You realise APT does depndency resolution, right? This isn't Slackware. So you could simply install jockey-gtk and everything else'd be pulled in as necessary
[20:55] <fully_human> theadmin: Ah, okay... :-) Didn't work for me when I did it, but thanks.
[20:56] <bin0> trism: fully_human well in software-properties-gtk is nothing to be found about propietary drivers
[20:57] <axisys> theadmin: installing jockey
[20:58] <fully_human> bin0: right.  I think trism is saying you should enable "Independent" repository under "Software Sources."
[20:59] <fully_human> bin0:
[20:59] <fully_human> Oops..stupid thumb pressed ENTER.
[20:59] <bin0> fully_human: its enabled
[20:59] <trism> fully_human: nope, saying that the "Additional Drivers" stuff is on a separate tab in that app now instead of a separate jockey-gtk app
[20:59] <trism> bin0: what is the output of: dkms status;
[21:00] <bin0> trism: i found that tab too but its empty
[21:00] <roger21> i got some weird encoded character in the man page on console though may local is en_US.UTF-8 ... what font should i use and how do i set that?
[21:00] <fully_human> trism: Ah, thanks...I have 12.04.  :-)  Guess you can take it from here.
[21:00] <bin0> fully_human: nvidia-current, 304.43, 3.5.0-23-generic, i686: installed
[21:00] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: [10de:03f3]
[21:00] <bin0> trism: nvidia-current, 304.43, 3.5.0-23-generic, i686: installed
[21:01] <trism> bin0: looks fine, have you rebooted between installing the driver? have you tried nvidia-settings?
[21:01] <bin0> trism: nvidia-settings says: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[21:01] <bin0> trism: yes rebooted varios times
[21:02] <bin0> trism: i also tried the given command proposed in nvidia-settings
[21:02] <trism> bin0: ahh, you might need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; if you didn't use the Additional Drivers stuff to install the nvidia driver
[21:02] <trism> bin0: though actually shouldn't matter in 12.10
[21:02] <bin0> trism: i did that already
[21:03] <trism> bin0: what does: /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like? or any errors in dmesg?
[21:03] <trism> bin0: is the nvidia module listed in lsmod?
[21:04] <axisys> theadmin: found smartlink modem
[21:04] <tjbiddle> Hey guys. Quick opinion: Any problem with running apt-get update via cron? I use Puppet to manage a few servers, and deploy in-house applications with debian packages, but having Puppet execute apt-get update before a run every time marks the servers as "changed" even though a new package may not be available.
[21:04] <axisys> theadmin: probably wont help with my ipw2200
[21:04] <axisys> theadmin: right?
[21:04] <bin0> trism: its not listed in lsmod, should i modprobe it?
[21:04] <theadmin> tjbiddle: APT has a built-in unattended upgrade feature, see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[21:04] <trism> bin0: is nouveau listed?
[21:04] <theadmin> axisys: Guess not
[21:05] <tjbiddle> theadmin: I'll look into that. I just want to update the repo/package information though, not upgrade automatically
[21:05] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: [10de:03f3]
[21:05] <MoPac2> Anybody here know about issues with keyboard language layout in the LUKS cryptsetup access screen? I have a password character that is in a different place depending on the language layout, and Ubuntu seems to be using a different default on that screen
[21:05] <theadmin> tjbiddle: Ah, I see, didn't realise that. Well just run apt-get update with cron I guess,that should be totally safe -- upgrading packages on the other hand is not
[21:06] <axisys> theadmin: btw, setting -> software resources -> additional drivers works too instead of installing jockey ..
[21:06] <bin0> trism: no nouveau ist listed either now
[21:06] <theadmin> axisys: Must be new in 12.10, I'm on 12.04 so I was unaware of that.
[21:06] <axisys> I saw the same drivier not acitvated before getting jockey installed
[21:06] <axisys> theadmin: synergy :-)
[21:06] <trism> bin0: alright then, may try modprobing it and restarting x, though weird that it isn't there already
[21:06] <axisys> theadmin: so ipw2200 is already in lsmod
[21:07] <axisys> theadmin: so what am I missing?
[21:07] <bin0> trism: shell i modprobe nouveau or nvidia-current?
[21:07] <trism> bin0: nvidia
[21:07] <bin0> trism: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[21:07] <tjbiddle> theadmin: Awesome, just wanted to double check. Thanks! (The unattended-upgrades looks cool btw, although I don't think I'd use it)
[21:08] <theadmin> axisys: I dunno, what is that module anyway?  What is your network adapter?
[21:08] <trism> bin0: ahh there's the problem, one moment let me look up the device, is it a fairly new card?
[21:08] <bin0> no its rpetty old
[21:08] <bin0> nvidia gforce4 4200
[21:08] <bin0> trism:
[21:09] <trism> bin0: ahh, you know, might be too old for the newer drivers
[21:09] <axisys> theadmin: el.com:  ipw2200_linux_1_0_0.tgz
[21:09] <axisys> http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/index.htm
[21:09] <axisys> theadmin: intel centrino 2200 N for Desktop
[21:09] <hilo> How do I set the size of the /dev/ram# devices? Seems like they are 64MiB by default. I just need a sub 1MiB ramdisk for passing some sensitive arguments around.
[21:09] <bin0> trism: it was running fine some ubuntu-versions ago... well if so how do i revert to the nouveau correctly then?
[21:09] <alterfi2> Amy one know of a good book to read on how to work with Linux?
[21:10] <axisys> theadmin: this says I need to install fw.. but it only comes with this kernel
[21:10] <axisys> http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/clients/HP_whitepaper_Mobiles_Linux_062205.pdf
[21:10] <theadmin> hilo: mount -t tmpfs -o size=1M tmpfs /tmp/ramdisk
[21:10] <theadmin> hilo: /tmp/ramdisk must exist before  that, of course
[21:10] <trism> bin0: should just need to purge nvidia-current and remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:11] <bin0> trism: simply delete the conf file?
[21:11] <trism> bin0: yes
[21:11] <trism> bin0: ahh yeah, on the supported cards list it seems to be listed under the 96 legacy driver which I don't think works with newer xorg
[21:11] <theadmin> axisys: Okay, well, I'm out of ideas, sorry. I also have a Centrino network adapter but it works right out of the box
[21:12] <theadmin> axisys: Try loading iwlwifi
[21:13] <bin0> trism: okay i deleted the file, purged nvidia-current now i will modprobe nouveau and restart x. hope it works
[21:13] <axisys> [ 1606.957813] iwlwifi: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, in-tree:
[21:13] <axisys> [ 1606.957821] iwlwifi: Copyright(c) 2003-2012 Intel Corporation
[21:13] <axisys> theadmin: loaded.. then what?
[21:13] <bin0> trism: fully_human thaks for your help, if i cant get the correct resolution from nouveau i will b back in a minute
[21:14] <hilo> theadmin, can you point me in the direction of some instructions on creating /tmp/ramdisk
[21:14] <theadmin> axisys: Well, try to scan for networks again
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> Seanw95_: Sorry, wandered off.
[21:14] <theadmin> hilo: Uh, it's any directory. Empty folder.
[21:14] <theadmin> hilo: Preferably with 777 permissions so that any user can access it.
[21:14] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: No problems, can you try help me or are you busy
[21:14] <axisys> theadmin: tried it.. no go..i think i need to find a way to enable the wifi button.. it is turned off
[21:15] <theadmin> axisys: Ah, the button... Does "sudo rfkill unblock all" do anything?
[21:15] <jhutchins_wk> Seanw95_: THat's your PCI Bridge chipset, need the pciid of the network card.
[21:15] <carlom61> hi guys, is there anybody so kind and patient that can help me in private 5 mins with some Terminal commands? please
[21:15] <Seanw95_> That is
[21:15] <Seanw95_> It's all the same
[21:15] <theadmin> carlom61: The general rule is t o always ask your question in the channel so that anyone who knows can help.
[21:16] <axisys> theadmin: did not help.. i wonder if it disabled at the bios
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> !pm
[21:16] <carlom61> yeah I know theadmin but those would be dumb questions :(
[21:16] <theadmin> axisys: Heh, could be, worth to check
[21:16] <theadmin> carlom61: This isn't #gentoo :P We don't mind newbies
[21:17] <hilo> theadmin, awesome thanks
[21:17] <bin0_> trism: hey im back, nouveau is now listex in lsmod but i cant get the correct resolution
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> Seanw95_: THere's a seperate id for the network adaptor.  If you can't find it just pastebin the whole output of lspci -nn and I'll see if I can.
[21:18] <jhutchins_wk> carlom61: If you're right, then there will be eager new channel members who will feel good about being able to answer them.  If they're subtler than you think, the more experienced guys can chip in.
[21:19] <carlom61> alright then thanks. I'm trying to edit a file in /etc/postfix/sasl a newly created file to complete the Postfix installation. The problem is that I get Permission Denied when trying to save it using visual or Terminal
[21:19] <roger21> i got some weird encoded character in the man page on console though may local is en_US.UTF-8 ... what font should i use and how do i set that?
[21:19] <theadmin> carlom61: sudo nano /etc/postfix/sasl
[21:19] <theadmin> carlom61: Need sudo to be able to edit system-wide configs and such.
[21:19] <jhutchins_wk> carlom61: Need to edit it as root.
[21:19] <Shogoot> is there any way to do apt-get update but spesifying the ip to do it from? I have a DNS problem and i need to resintall my resolvconf files.... but as i got the dns problem apt-get update just gives me the unable to resolve host error
[21:19] <bin0_> trism: is there a way to add more resolutuions to the menu where i usually choose from?
[21:19] <theadmin> carlom61: For a graphical editor, gksudo gedit /etc/postfix/sasl
[21:19] <carlom61> and why I get Access Denied when "su root" ?
[21:19] <caleress> hey guys im trying to set global xgamma and xbacklight, they run in the script but where can i set them globally ?
[21:20] <theadmin> carlom61: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[21:20] <theadmin> carlom61: It's for security reasons.
[21:20] <carlom61> alright
[21:20] <caleress> if i understand correctly xorg.conf is deprecated ?
[21:20] <theadmin> caleress: No, just unrequired. It's still read if it exists, though.
[21:20] <trism> bin0_: what's the output of: xrandr; ?
[21:21] <bin0_> javier@javier-desktop:~$ xrandr xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm    1024x768       61.0*     800x600        61.0      640x480        60.0
[21:21] <caleress> theadmin: do you have a sample of how the file is susposed to look like ?
[21:22] <theadmin> caleress: Uhmm... Nope
[21:22] <caleress> heh great :)
[21:22] <caleress> is this even the right place to change this settings ?
[21:23] <trism> bin0_: hmm, I'm not really sure, might just be a limitation of nouveau with that card
[21:23] <bin0_> but it was working some time ago
[21:23] <bin0_> well ill try to figure it out
[21:24] <jhutchins_wk> caleress: try X --configure
[21:24] <theadmin> Anyway, I'm off for today.
[21:24] <caleress> Fatal server error: Unrecognized option: --configure
[21:25] <caleress>  :)
[21:25] <jhutchins_wk> caleress: Sorry, I think you need sudo, X needs to not be running, and it's -configure
[21:26] <carlom61> can I delete files/folders using gedit?
[21:26] <Xtz_Fuz> no..
[21:26] <caleress> so I gotta kill X first ?
[21:26] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: two minuites
[21:26] <Shogoot> is there any way to do apt-get update but spesifying the ip to do it from? I have a DNS problem and i need to resintall my resolvconf files.... but as i got the dns problem apt-get update just gives me the unable to resolve host error
[21:27] <huttan> Shogoot: can you pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf pls?
[21:27] <carlom61> so how do I delete files/folders in /etc/ using visual graphical?
[21:28] <Shogoot> i dont have it. as i did purge it from my system on a recomendation to solve another thing
[21:28] <Shogoot> that is why im tring to update directly from the source and not relying on the dns...
[21:29] <jhutchins_wk> caleress: ... well, I suppose you can tell X to use another display...
[21:29] <civixier> Anyone in here that have made a syntax color config file for nano? It keeps messing up my quotes. If I write "hello" test "hello" the whole row goes to that color, when only the "hello" parts should do it.
[21:29] <orazio> ciao
[21:30] <orazio> come si va
[21:30] <huttan> Shogoot: i think those are behind loaders, what repos u using?
[21:30] <huttan> Shogoot: i guess i can resolve it for ya heh :)
[21:31] <Shogoot> huttan, i dont know what spesific repos i got. its a quite fresh install of ubuntu server. the latets
[21:32] <huttan> Shogoot: /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: You don't need to reinstall the resolv.conf file.  As installed it's blank.
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: Are you using DHCP or a static configuration?
[21:33] <roger21> i don't understand, i put all:all in hosts.deny and nothing in hosts.allow it blocks my incomming ssh but not my the apache requests
[21:34] <Shogoot> jhutchins_wk, static.... heres my sources.list http://pastebin.com/f8x3eRKj
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: Hello?
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: Ok, do you know what your nameserver addresses are?
[21:34] <bean> roger21: you should be using iptables or UFW for some sort of firewall, not hosts.deny
[21:34] <Shogoot> jhutchins_wk, no
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: If it were dhcp you would get them from the server.
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> Shogoot: Ok, you need to find out from your ISP, but for now just try adding the line nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolv.conf
[21:35] <Shogoot> jhutchins_wk, im trying to set up a homefileserver and that is my im using static
[21:35] <roger21> bean, doesn't host.deny blocks incomming connections?
[21:35] <bean> roger21: one would think that it would, but it's not the smartest or most used solution
[21:36] <roger21> ok
[21:36] <pippo> !list
[21:36] <Shogoot> jhansonxi, ok. namersrver 8.8.8.8 added
[21:36] <Xtz_Fuz> יש פה ישראלים?
[21:36] <tubaguy50035> I have two installs of haproxy on different machines, each has "tek-lin-lb1.domain.com" and "tek-lin-lb2.domain.com" in their /etc/hostname respectively.  When I start haproxy on the first machine, I have to set it's name to "tek-lin-lb1" in the peers section, where I have to set "tek-lin-lb2.domain.com" on the second one.  Any reason that might be?
[21:36] <bean> roger21: it also depends on what is in your /etc/hosts.allow
[21:37] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: Here it is http://snag.gy/zv5zB.jpg
[21:37] <roger21> nothing
[21:37] <pippo>  /msg ubottu !bot
[21:37] <Seanw95_> That's my lspci -nn
[21:37] <bean> tubaguy50035: because /etc/hostname doesn't matter when it comes to actual DNS names of hosts, i'd guess
[21:38] <chrish1> I have a problem with ubuntu-server, cobbler and automated install
[21:38] <btemp> what would be a cute LVM setup gui?
[21:38] <tubaguy50035> bean: Hmm...  The /etc/hosts files are the same except for IP addresses and "1" and "2" flipped...
[21:38] <chrish1> the network interface that is connected to the internet is different than the one that i pxe boot from
[21:38] <bean> tubaguy50035: still, some services rely on DNS and don't really care about /etc/hosts, though I'm not sure exactly how haproxy works
[21:39] <Shogoot> jhansonxi, you still there? :)
[21:39] <chrish1> i tried d-i netcfg/choose_interface select eth1 in the preseed file but it still does not configure eth1 and tries to use eth0 to access the package archive, which fails
[21:40] <ivali> I am running ubuntu server (clean install). Flushed iptables cand disabled ufw.Can it be something else that is blocking me certain ports (135,139,445, 1433 etc.) or should i talk to my ISP?
[21:41] <Shogoot> jhutchins_wk, ok. namersrver 8.8.8.8 added
[21:42] <qualia> How do I add --nocursor option of Xorg to .xinitrc
[21:42] <Seanw95_> jhutchins_wk: Here it is http://snag.gy/zv5zB.jpg like you asked my lspci -nn
[21:42] <carlom61> guys sorry for asking: what's the command in Terminal for deleting files/folders in /etc/?
[21:43] <qualia> or is there a better way to disable touchpad
[21:44] <away> carlom61, sudo rm /etc/whatever
[21:44] <away> if it's a folder, use -r
[21:44] <qualia> carlom61, rm -rf /etc/*
[21:44] <jrib> carlom61: STOP DO NOT DO THAT
[21:44] <carlom61> holding on
[21:44] <qualia> carlom61, don't listen to him do it
[21:44] <axisys> how to check the batter status from cli?
[21:44] <qualia> breaking things is good
[21:44] <escott> !danger
[21:45] <jrib> carlom61: do not delete things in /etc.  What are you trying to do?
[21:45] <carlom61> I guess that command would have deleted * from root dir etc
[21:45] <gustav_> <3
[21:45] <away> carlom, no, but everything in /etc
[21:45] <away> including important files like sudoers etc.
[21:45] <carlom61> trying to delete an incorrectly created dir and file in postfix subdir of etc
[21:46] <jrib> carlom61: what exactly?
[21:46] <carlom61> so its gonna be sudo rm etc/postfix/the_dir_to_be_Removed
[21:46] <away> sudo rm -r /etc/dirname
[21:46] <carlom61> ah ok -r for dir
[21:46] <bean> if its an empty dir you can do
[21:46] <bean> rmdir
[21:47] <Seanw95_> Can someone help me install a graphics driver?
[21:48] <Seanw95_> Anyone?
[21:49] <auronandace> Seanw95_: did you sort out your ethernet in the end?
[21:50] <Seanw95_> No, however I'm having problems with my grahics everytime i type certain commands in terminal my screen goes all fuzzy and i can't see anything
[21:50] <Seanw95_> So this needs addressing first
[21:50] <auronandace> Seanw95_: what certain commands?
[21:51] <Seanw95_> Restarting networking
[21:51] <Seanw95_> trying to modprobe forcedeth
[21:52] <Tammuz> hi every1
[21:52] <qualia> Hi, I need to disable TOUCHPAD/mouse module in XORG completely, anything related to cursors, the drivers are horrible and i don't need it for now. What would be the easiest way
[21:52] <NetFlam> Hi!
[21:52] <NetFlam> Can i help anyone?
[21:55] <Seanw95_> Can someone help me downloading and installing a driver? https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/982710
[21:56] <roger21> ok aparently apache just don't care about hosts.allow/deny (APACHE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT!)
[21:58] <DeadWeaselX> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64:  Trying to torify applications.  Don't know how to point /etc/tsocks.conf to my instance of tor?
[21:58] <graydon> hey so im sure you guys have heard this question before because i thnk its a known bug, but i cant get empathy to work in LXDE. it tells me i need to add an account but in order to do it i have to manually enter gnome-control-center credentials, even when i do that it still just says network error and i cant do anything with it. so how do i fix it?
[21:58] <Pici> roger21: thats nice, but please mind the language. Thanks.
[21:59] <jrr> I'm trying to install libssl-dev:i386 on my 64-bit 12.10 system, and it seems to be mutually exclusive with libssl-dev
[21:59] <roger21> you're not fun
[21:59] <roger21> you don't know about the honneybadger!
[21:59] <jrr> apt wants to remove a whole bunch of things
[21:59] <Eagleman> What do i need to do in my iptables to allow dns bind9 ( it only acts as a cache ) to work ( all my clients need to be able to use dns )
[22:01] <seanw95> can someone help me install these drivers? https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/982710
[22:02] <seanw95> can someone help me install these drivers? https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/982710
[22:02] <DeadWeaselX> anyone have experience with tsocks?
[22:03] <SirClueless> hi guys, i just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04 and now my unity taskbar and dock are gone
[22:03] <tqrst> can someone please help me make gnome-panel display the keyboard layout indicator? It used to do it on an older ubuntu install. Not sure why it doesn't do it any more. gnome-control-panel shows that I have 2 layouts (en-US and canadian multilingual).
[22:05] <fbdystang> Hi, I am running 11.04 ubuntu. How do up upgrade without losing everything?
[22:05] <SirClueless> can anyone help? my unity is borked, and i can't run programs
[22:05] <tqrst> the keyboard shortcuts to switch layout don't work either, regardless of which one I set
[22:05] <isaias> SirClueless: You need to download it again, i think
[22:05] <Osakasa^> SirClueless, write "unity restart" and shutdown terminal
[22:05] <Apes> Does upstart allow you to replace cron yet?
[22:06] <thccookie> SirClueless, i think you must go to the settings window, and then find "behavior" options, and show
[22:06] <isaias> SirClueless: try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580857
[22:06] <thccookie> hide and show... behavior
[22:06] <Pici> Apes: its not meant to replace cron. its designed to be a replacement for sys v init.
[22:06] <SirClueless> i cannot seem to do any of those things, because i can't launch graphical programs
[22:07] <Apes> Pici: That is incorrect, I am afraid.
[22:07] <Osakasa^> SirClueless, ctrl+alt+t opens terminal
[22:07] <SirClueless> Osakasa^: didn't work for me
[22:07] <bean> Pici: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/ReplaceCron
[22:08] <Osakasa^> try alt+F2
[22:08] <Pici> Apes: Then I'm mistaken.  The experts are over in #upstart if you want to ask them.
[22:08] <thccookie> SirClueless,  damn it... if your ubuntu have another graphicall interfaces when you log in? like lxde, xfce...
[22:08] <SirClueless> Osakasa^: nothing happens on alt+f2
[22:08] <thccookie> SirClueless, try install one of them with terminal, and login with different graphic session
[22:08] <thccookie> and fix error
[22:09] <fbdystang> Hi, I am running 11.04 ubuntu. How do up upgrade without losing everything?
[22:09] <thccookie> fbdystang, kernel upgrade or version?
[22:09] <SirClueless> thccookie: sudo apt-get install xfce is unough to do that?
[22:10] <fbdystang> thccookie: version i think, what is the difference?
[22:10] <thccookie> fbdystang, if yiu upgrade kernel, you dont lose settings and stuff
[22:10] <thccookie> bud if you update version, it's new system
[22:11] <thccookie> SirClueless, just search on google "install xfce to ubuntu"
[22:11] <SirClueless> thccookie: i am installing xfce4 package now, will reboot and let you know how it goes
[22:11] <fbdystang> thccookie: It appears my version is end of life. I have a few servers running on it, how do I upgrade?
[22:11] <SirClueless> thccookie: i can't google, can't run a browser
[22:12] <Pinguy-User> Hello I have downloaded and installed PinguyOS12.10 beta onto a usb drive and need to know how to install it to an external drive
[22:12] <thccookie> SirClueless, wait i found tutorial for you, because i forgot.. too many stuffs in my head, real madness
[22:13] <thccookie> fbdystang, dont risk then, you lost data!
[22:13] <SirClueless> thccookie: i ran sudo apt-get install xfce4
[22:13] <SirClueless> that seemed to work, rebooting now
[22:13] <SirClueless> will let you know how it goes
[22:14] <Pinguy-User> I have multiple partitions on my netbook, and need to have it work on my external drive without conflicting with the other partitions on the other harddrive
[22:14] <auronandace> Pinguy-User: pinguy isn't supported here
[22:14] <fbdystang> thccookie: can I upgrade to 11.10 and then to the newest version?
[22:14] <Eagleman> I cannot seem to get DNS working on my windows machines with my current iptables, any idea what i did wrong http://pastebin.com/jQgN8p42 ?
[22:15] <parabyte> any good documentation on ssh login screen's?
[22:15] <bin_bash> Has anyone here had any luck getting audio out to work with the thunderbolt port on apple macbooks?
[22:15] <thccookie> fbdystang, yes you can
[22:15] <parabyte> im using startx on console instead of a graphical X login system
[22:15] <parabyte> im trying to make my linux system 1990's style
[22:15] <parabyte> wondered anyone got any tips
[22:15] <bin_bash> parabyte, the man page?
[22:15] <thccookie> fbdystang, but you realy need to back up all of you data
[22:15] <thccookie> first,
[22:16] <thccookie> you loose data, you know that
[22:16] <parabyte> bin_bash, man page's are my Religious Scriptures
[22:16] <parabyte> lol
[22:16] <fbdystang> thccookie: without losin data? I can backup data, but I cannot backup servers settings. will server settings be lost?
[22:16] <Krustyklimber> can anyone explain how to print, using Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:16] <thccookie> no, server settings not be lost if you save config-s
[22:17] <bin_bash> Krustyklimber, first you should install the drivers for your printer. then you should print.
[22:17] <thccookie> try save hole folder /home
[22:17] <thccookie> and restore etc and share
[22:17] <thccookie> in new system
[22:17] <Krustyklimber> I installed the drivers... I just can't figure out how to send a pdf file to the printer
[22:17] <thccookie> sorry my english is bad
[22:18] <Krustyklimber> I open pdf reader, but there's no option for printing
[22:18] <SirClueless> so xfce4 works, though, my second monitor is misconfigured now
[22:18] <carlom61> is there any quick way I can put a localhost/file.txt over the internet, how?
[22:18] <auronandace> Krustyklimber: ctrl+p?
[22:18] <bin_bash> carlom61, upload it to pastebin
[22:18] <Krustyklimber> wow am I really that stupid? :P
[22:18] <SirClueless> brb, relogging into unity again
[22:19] <thccookie> SirClueless, go to settings, behavior, hide and show
[22:19] <thccookie> brb
[22:19] <carlom61> uhm, no I want it to be run in localhost
[22:19] <Krustyklimber> I was looking for something to click on... still not used to having to type commands... thanks
[22:20] <carlom61> so I guess I gotta give out my IP
[22:20] <bin_bash> ctl-p is not a command
[22:20] <bin_bash> it's a keyboard shortcut
[22:20] <auronandace> Krustyklimber: i assume it would be under file > print too
[22:21] <SirClueless> is there a way to force a relog? like restarting the dm or something?
[22:21] <Krustyklimber> hmmm I don't see file print
[22:21] <bin_bash> well ctl-p
[22:21] <bin_bash> should work
[22:21] <Krustyklimber> and it does... thanks again
[22:22] <thccookie> Krustyklimber, just go screenshoot and print :)
[22:22] <Eagleman> I cannot seem to get DNS working on my windows machines with my current iptables, any idea what i did wrong http://pastebin.com/jQgN8p42 ?
[22:22] <Krustyklimber> a screenshot of 16 pages won't work ;)
[22:23] <thccookie> one by one :)
[22:23] <SirClueless> thccookie: so i can get a graphical environment up now, what was the next step in your advice?
[22:23] <Krustyklimber> that sounds complicated... but thanks for the advice
[22:23] <Krustyklimber> I liked havinf a printer icon to click though :)
[22:24] <Krustyklimber> *having
[22:24] <bin_bash> You should really not rely on the GUI so much
[22:24] <bin_bash> This is why most linux users say that Ubuntu teaches bad habits
[22:24] <thccookie> SirClueless, did you mess up .gl files or play with you graphicall driver?
[22:24] <Krustyklimber> I shouldn't, but I am not very computer literate
[22:24] <bin_bash> Then why are you using Linux?
[22:24] <Tex_Nick> Krustyklimber:  also you can right-click on the toolbar ... choose "more tools" ... then find and enable print ... should give you a printer icon to click
[22:25] <SirClueless> thccookie: yes, the update removed fglrx as part of upgrading
[22:25] <thccookie> SirClueless, go to sudo apt-get update -f
[22:25] <Gumby> !nvidia
[22:25] <Krustyklimber> I click the prineter icon, from there Tex, and I couldn't find the document I want to print... just a confusing set of "menus"
[22:26] <SirClueless> thccookie: done
[22:26] <carlom61> how can I make a localhost/whatever.file public providing somebody direct URL?
[22:27] <bin_bash> carlom61, you have to have a public_http directory
[22:27] <bin_bash> with dns setup
[22:27] <bin_bash> and a webserver
[22:27] <bin_bash> and port forwarding
[22:28] <carlom61> cant I simply use my direct public IP?
[22:28] <bin_bash> sure, if the port is forwarded
[22:28] <genii-around> carlom61: Yes, if your router is set to forward port 80 to your internal machine
[22:28] <carlom61> I suppose so yes
[22:29] <carlom61> altough I reckon it's not set as such by default, right
[22:29] <Krustyklimber> thanks again folks, have a great day
[22:29] <bin_bash> carlom61, no. you have to set it to forward
[22:29] <Chosi> hey there, there's a customer that is having trouble getting his dual monitor setup in 10.04 working. he's on 2x nvidia quadro 600 - is there anything known broken with this setup? i'd just like to know what i'm into when i try to fix it tomorrow
[22:30] <fbdystang> What all do I need to backup to upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 then newer?
[22:31] <bin_bash> fbdystang, you should be able to just apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:31] <bin_bash> but if you want
[22:32] <bin_bash> you should backup your entire /home directory unless you're smart and put it on its own partition
[22:32] <fbdystang> bin_bash: I am running a few servers like samba and others, and I don't want to lose settings.
[22:32] <carlom61> so in the Port Forwarding / Port Triggering menu of the router I'd add a service HTTP for forwarding to....?
[22:32] <bin_bash> fbdystang, then back up the config files for those
[22:32] <bin_bash> seems pretty self-explanatory, no?
[22:33] <genii-around> fbdystang: dist-upgrade does not increment from 11.04 to 11.10 for instance. You require to do do-release-upgrade for that.
[22:35] <fbdystang> bin_bash: I have one of the servers running in var/www so just copying /home wont copy everything. I have a bigger SATA drive on raid connected so I can backkup whatever I need to. I just don't know where all the stuff is to backup. Is it possible to copy an entire hd if I am running on it?
[22:35] <bin_bash> no
[22:35] <bin_bash> you have to boot into a live environment
[22:35] <genii-around> carlom61: First you should probably set the router to set the same LAN number to your machine every time by it's mac address. Then do the port forwarding to that specific IP.
[22:36] <fbdystang> Ah yes, then I can completely back it up, thanks bin_bash
[22:36] <bin_bash> np
[22:36] <bin_bash> fbdystang, yeah make sure if you have anything in /etc that you need or whateve that you back it up
[22:36] <bin_bash> you can always use rsync to back it up, which imo, is the best utility
[22:36] <bin_bash> rsync -av source dest
[22:37] <Apes> rsync doesn't actually make true backups, but it could be good enough
[22:37] <dlam> this may be a weird question,  but i have a remote computer with eth0 and eth1,  when i SSH to an IP in /etc/hosts on etho0, it hands
[22:37] <fbdystang> bin_bash: what other folders could have important stuff?
[22:37] <bin_bash> fbdystang, uhhh all of them? I don't know what you consider important
[22:37] <dlam> *it hangs,   but for the hostname binded to eth1, i connect normally
[22:37] <dlam> anyone know what to check?
[22:37] <bin_bash> Apes, what's wrong with rsync?
[22:37] <Apes> dlam: ssh -vvv
[22:38] <genii-around> dlam: Whichever interface is brought up last becomes your default route
[22:38] <fbdystang> bin_bash: can you explain briefly what rsync can do?
[22:38] <Apes> bin_bash: There is an in depth article about it I can try to dig up if you want. But the short of it is that rsync doesn't handle a lot of edge cases.
[22:38] <bin_bash> fbdystang, man rsync
[22:38] <bin_bash> Apes, I'd like to read it
[22:38] <dlam> kk
[22:38] <escott> Apes, name one
[22:39] <Apes> escott: Sparse files
[22:39] <SirClueless> hi all, i'm still having trouble with unity after a 12.10 upgrade: no taskbar, dock or alt+f2 run menu, not even a graphical terminal when i hit ctrl+alt+t
[22:39] <DeadWeasel> well crud.  apparently if you torify an IRC app you get immediately banned from the server for RNBL bs
[22:39] <DeadWeasel> amazing
[22:39] <DeadWeasel> figures too
[22:40] <escott> Apes, man rsync | grep -- -S
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> seanw95: Your Nvidia MPC61 Ethernet controller uses the native forcedeth driver and should work with the stock kernel.
[22:40] <fbdystang> bin_bash: Thanks, so it will sync with an external hardrive?
[22:41] <bin_bash> yep
[22:41] <fbdystang> ok cool :)
[22:41] <SirClueless> can anyone help figure out why unity is broken after 12.10 upgrade?
[22:42] <tcstar> hey all have a ubuntu server and setting up a cronjob...  trying to set it up to mail the output, but need specific people with external email addresses(gmail particularly).. so i created 3 aliases in my postfix.. and added | mail -s "PostDates Processed" layton,robert,micah   at the end of my crontab -- will that work?
[22:42] <Ben64> SirClueless: graphics driver
[22:43] <escott> tcstar, keep in mind that cron does not run processes in shell, and it may not source your normal environment
[22:44] <tcstar> it works on another cronjob that is sent to 1 person -- so that portion i know is correct...  its just when i add in the 2nd and 3rd person to be mailed i'm not sure about
[22:44] <SirClueless> Ben64: i have an ATI hybrid graphics card, but from my /var/log/Xorg.0.log it appears I am just properly using my Intel HD4000
[22:45] <bin_bash> where's a good place to get gtk3 themes
[22:45] <jrib> escott: doesn't cron execute each job using /bin/sh?
[22:45] <SirClueless> Ben64: is there a way to figure out what is stopping unity from loading?
[22:45] <xangua> bin_bash: GNOME-LOOK.ORG
[22:45] <bin_bash> thanks
[22:45] <xangua> sorry for the caps
[22:45] <Ben64> SirClueless: i don't know about ati or dual gpu stuff, but thats almost always the reason unity doesn't work
[22:45] <Ben64> SirClueless: check the logs
[22:46] <bin_bash> IT'S OKAY, I FORGIVE YOU, xangua :p
[22:46] <escott> jrib, no
[22:46] <SirClueless> Ben64: which logs? my xorg logs look clean
[22:46] <Ben64> all of em
[22:47] <jrib> escott: "The entire command portion of the line, up to  a  newline  or character,  will  be  executed by /bin/sh or by the shell specified in the SHELL variable of the crontab file." (man 5 crontab)
[22:47] <SirClueless> what do you recommend to do to fix this?
[22:47] <Ben64> easy way would be to not use unity
[22:48] <escott> jrib, hmmm a lot of things break when you try to use pipes.. i always assumed it was a straight execve
[22:48] <SirClueless> is 12.10 just not as tested as 12.04 or something?
[22:48] <jrib> escott: ah, yes I try to keep cron lines very simple for exactly that reason :P
[22:48] <SirClueless> because things were fine before the upgrade
[22:48] <Ben64> SirClueless: 12.10 got rid of unity2d
[22:49] <SirClueless> ahh, so you think the problem is that i *never* had unity3d running
[22:50] <carlom61> is there anybody expert on closed source unified NVIDIA drivers install who already knows how to resolve the issue with the disappearance of Unity ecc right after latest drivers have been installed?
[22:50] <SirClueless> that's possible, i think there was one point where i compiled the latest ATI driver from source and it worked with Unity3d, but then Ubuntu released the -experimental-9 driver which I installed but that didn't work
[22:50] <Ben64> SirClueless: yeah on 12.04 you probably had unity 2d going, and now its trying 3d but not working for.... some reason
[22:50] <SirClueless> i will try compiling the AMD drivers from source again
[22:51] <Ben64> carlom61: what version ubuntu
[22:51] <carlom61> 12.10
[22:52] <Ben64> read up what i've been saying to SirClueless
[22:52] <carlom61> I do install prop drivers thereafter I cant see anything else than the display background and cant restore Unity
[22:52] <carlom61> ah ok
[22:52] <Ben64> maybe your drivers aren't actually in use?
[22:53] <carlom61> now I have Nouveau and they do work perfectly
[22:53] <Ben64> nouveau isn't nvidia
[22:54] <escott> jrib, i always just call out to a script as a best practice... i guess i've confused a best practice with a necessity
[22:54] <genii-around> tcstar: I think you're probably better off to do mail -u <your-username> -t fred@wherever, tina@wherever, etc@wherever -S "Subject"
[22:54] <carlom61> yeah I know, I need to keep those opensource drv as the Nvidia break my ubuntu :)
[22:54] <Ben64> how are you installing nvidia?
[22:55] <carlom61> nvidia current
[22:56] <tcstar> k -- i setup a cron to email myself 3 times -- so if it doesn't work i'll try your method genii-around
[22:56] <genii-around> tcstar: I'm pretty sure if you don't use the -u <your-username>  the email will probably seem to originate from root@your-box-name
[22:57] <SirClueless> Ben64: so even the source AMD drivers don't work any more
[22:57] <SirClueless> Ben64: is there a unity log?
[22:58] <SirClueless> actually scratch that, i forgot to run aticonfig after reinstalling drivers, reboot
[23:00] <jirido> could anyone tell me why firefox mainwindow dont come around when i alt tab between my windows? and what i could do about it.. Im on 12.04. sometimes it goes down besides the clock but at oter times it is on the bar like the rest of windows.. firefox filegetter shows all ok.. i
[23:01] <schweegi> hello. how can i remove a submitted text in ubuntus pastebin?
[23:01] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: What variant of 12.04?
[23:01] <TheLordOfTime> schweegi:  afaik you can't remove it.
[23:02] <nemo> So, I want the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085392
[23:02] <nemo> I'm concerned about enabling all of proposed tho
[23:02] <genii-around> schweegi: Hopefully it doesn't contain any personal information.
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> schweegi: You don't.
[23:02] <nemo> wondering if that's risky for chromebook-arm, and how long it might be in proposed (maybe I can just wait)
[23:02] <schweegi> TheLordOfTime: How long is it saved?
[23:02] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, lubuntu
[23:03] <TheLordOfTime> schweegi:  no clue,
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: Do you have a window list on your LXDE panel?
[23:03] <SirClueless> oh heavens, i think i entered the twilight zone
[23:03] <schweegi> genii-around: true, there some personal information in it :(
[23:03] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, yes
[23:03] <SirClueless> fragments of my desktop are overlaying my TTY2
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: And Firefox doesn't show up there when you minimize it?
[23:03] <doomsayer> Has anyone else been having uninstall issues? I keep getting "ordinal not in range(128)" when I try and reinstall ubuntu.
[23:03] <schweegi> can i contact canonical to delete it?
[23:04] <genii-around> schweegi: I'm trying to find out if there are any steps which can be taken
[23:04] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, no then it goes beside the clock
[23:04] <schweegi> genii-around: thanks :) sorry for my poor english.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: Well I don't use LXDE. I'm probably going to need a screenshot of what happens.
[23:05] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, really anoying
[23:05] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, the icon is between networkmanager and the clock
[23:06] <genii-around> schweegi: I think the most immediate thing to do is probably email webmaster@ubuntu.com explaining your mistake
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: That means it showed up in Workspace Switcher.
[23:07] <doomsayer> I am having issues reinstalling ubuntu, can someone please help? :)
[23:07] <schweegi> genii-around: it's not my mistake, a friend send me his error log which contains personal information about him :( thank you, i try email the webmaster :)
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: Try right-clicking your LXDE panel and selecting "Add..." Then add a "Window List"
[23:07] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, i dont really know what you mean but if u mean the one one change desktops with i dont think i have it on the bar/ ok
[23:08] <genii-around> schweegi: You may also want to visit #canonical-sysadmin and if you ask them nicely they may have someone handy who can remove it immediately.
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> doomsayer: It sounds like something wasn't done in Unicode (UTF-8) or got corrupted on your ISO image.
[23:10] <doomsayer> Seems logical. How would I go about repairing that?
[23:10] <adam__> does anybody know how to setup joysticks in wine??
[23:10] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: The "Window List" is the place where you can see what windows you have in that workspace. (Like the Windows taskbar)
[23:10] <schweegi> genii-around: thank you very much for your help :)
[23:10] <andreb> hi all
[23:10] <andreb> anyone here using postifx..
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> doomsayer: Good question. My best guess is to re-download your ISO and write it to a disc or make a new USB image from it
[23:11] <andreb> any time i edit my main.cf option smtp_sasl_password_maps
[23:11] <andreb> and save it
[23:11] <andreb> and do postfix reload the changes are removed from the file
[23:11] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, yes i did and now its two windowlists and the watch and that is in middle and all windows are on both but firefox still dont show on alt tab around :(
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: Oh, you had one before; my bad. Get rid of the one you just added. Did Firefox prematurely shut itself down?
[23:12] <doomsayer> SonikkuAmerica: I am currently trying to install Mint via a live CD but wubi is getting in the way. I wish to just completely remove ubuntu out of the way but the uninstall keeps running in to errors.
[23:12] <jirido> No
[23:13] <Ben64> doomsayer: we can't help you with mint
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> doomsayer: It won't uninstall from Windows?
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Mint isn't his problem. Wubi getting in the way of Mint4Win is.
[23:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: He's got bad code in Wubi.
[23:13] <doomsayer> What Sonikku said is correct.
[23:14] <doomsayer> And I cannot boot into ubuntu.
[23:14] <Ben64> well then uninstall it from windows
[23:14] <doomsayer> Ben64: I am trying but I cannot get past wubi.
[23:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: He can't; "ordinal not in range" is blocking him from uninstall.
[23:15] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, no it has been stable but as i dont want to update it to loose all pluggins that dont keep up with the high updaterate it might be in a state where it has asked to update and i have denied and it still want to restart.. It could be somthing like that could it?
[23:15] <SonikkuAmerica> doomsayer: Try opening Explorer, browsing to your C: drive and deleting the "ubuntu" folder.
[23:15] <Ben64> then...... use windows to fixmbr, and delete ubuntu
[23:15] <Ben64> make sure to fixmbr or you can't boot windows anymore
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: It could be. But I can't really diagnose problems with Firefox. I use Chrome.
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> doomsayer: If you have Windows Vista or later, use "bootrec /fixmbr"
[23:16] <doomsayer> Thank you. the fixmbr was confusing me.
[23:17] <Tex_Nick> schweegi:  something to cinsider in the future ... if you use pastebin.com you/he can specify an expiration time
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: Try logging out and back in, start Firefox, and minimize it. See if it happens again.
[23:18] <Tex_Nick> consider ^
[23:19] <jirido> Ok
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: I'll be back, I have to plug in my laptop.
[23:19] <iRy--> anybody know how to configure a joystick in wine
[23:20] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica,  Ok Thanks. i guess its this update thing.. i dont know why it want to restart as i dont update it..?? hm
[23:21] <jirido> i restart it to check
[23:22] <jirido> sonikkuamerika i did restart it to check and now it works..
[23:22] <JennyBlueBird> hi guys, I'm trying to find my GPU temperature for an nVidia card, but none of the usual ways seem to report it
[23:22] <JennyBlueBird> nvclock, nvidia-settings and lmsesnors all fail to display it
[23:22] <JennyBlueBird> any ideas ?
[23:22] <Ben64> what card
[23:22] <JennyBlueBird> 9600 GSO
[23:22] <JennyBlueBird> GeForce
[23:23] <Tex_Nick> iRy : if you don't get an answer here, you might try #winehq
[23:23] <Ben64> dunno, it should be working
[23:23] <bin_bash> How much RAM do you guys typcally use after ~4 hours of usage?
[23:23] <JennyBlueBird> if I run nvclock -T  I get:   Error: failed to mmap PMC
[23:24] <jrib> bin_bash: 32 MB.  What's your real question?
[23:24] <bin_bash> that is my real question
[23:24] <Ben64> jrib: thats pretty good
[23:24] <jrib> Ben64: server :)
[23:24] <bps> JennyBlueBird: for lm-sensors did you run "sensors-detect" first
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: I'm back.
[23:25] <iRy--> thx Tex_Nick but nobody is answering there too that why i thought i will try here
[23:25] <bin_bash> jrib, what do you have running on there?
[23:25] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : about the same as the first few minutes of usage ờᴗớ
[23:25] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, and how much is that?
[23:25] <jrib> bin_bash: lighttpd, znc, and some python...
[23:26] <JennyBlueBird> bps, yea, and it just gives me cpu and motherboard data
[23:26] <JennyBlueBird> no GPU
[23:28] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash i don't think we understand your issue
[23:28] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, I don't think you're undetstanding the question
[23:28] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, thanks for the energy and care sweet! it was what i suspected
[23:28] <TheLordOfTime> bin_bash:  your question isn't descriptive enough to allude to why you're asking.
[23:29] <bin_bash> TheLordOfTime, the question is literally a survey question
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: What was?
[23:29] <Tex_Nick> bin_bashthat's obvious :)
[23:29] <TheLordOfTime> !survey | bin_bash
[23:29] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[23:29] <TheLordOfTime> bleh whatever
[23:29] <TheLordOfTime> bin_bash:  this probably isn't the best place to have a poll/survey.
[23:30] <bin_bash> I'm eally just trying to compare. I feel like my system is using a fuckload of RAM
[23:30] <jirido> That it waited to restart even i said not to update.. maybe a update of some add-ons.. or whom knows.. :)
[23:30] <TheLordOfTime> !language | bin_bash
[23:30] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, That it waited to restart even i said not to update.. maybe a update of some add-ons.. or whom knows.. :)
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[23:30] <nemo> bin_bash: I think the amount of ram things on your system use depends a great deal on the amount of memory available
[23:30] <jirido> yeahh :)
[23:30] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: 9600GS? desktop card? maybe it's too new for the standard ways to do it.
[23:30] <nemo> bin_bash: Firefox for example will use more memory for caching if you have a huge amount of memory, but hardly any at all on my raspberry pi
[23:31] <Coded1> anyone tried installing the latest amd catalyst 13.2 beta 3 drivers?  The install fails looking for version.h for me
[23:31] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, I would have though nvidia-settings would do it at least
[23:31] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, but yea, maybe
[23:31] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, though it is a few years
[23:31] <jirido> SonikkuAmerica, But thanks anyway and good night and good luck with helping out here tonight !
[23:31] <TheSov> does anyone know where i could find the failed login attempts on ssh, its not in my /var/log/syslog
[23:31] <nemo> bin_bash: on my system where I have 16GiB of RAM, 12½GiB are in use, but 10½GiB of that is caching - so pretty much just letting stuff load fast
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> jirido: You're welcome.
[23:32] <nemo> bin_bash: which ofc isn't a waste of RAM at all
[23:32] <nemo> bin_bash: the other 2GiB are mostly minecraft servers ;)
[23:32] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash ust "system Monitor" to see what process's are usint the memory
[23:32] <Tex_Nick> use ^
[23:32] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: tried the terminal 'nvidia-settings -q gpucoretemp' ?
[23:33] <bin_bash> nemo, I've got 4gb and with firefox and everyhting I'm using 737mb, but in a few minutes it'll quickly climb to over 1gb
[23:33] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, yea, it prints 3 blank lines
[23:33] <TheLordOfTime> bin_bash:  where're you getting your "used" numbers from?
[23:33] <jrib> bin_bash: ram is there to be used, "unused ram is wasted ram" is the linux motto
[23:34] <jrib> !ram | bin_bash
[23:35] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, yeah I have htop. firefox is the worst, wicd, xchat, pdigin, X
[23:35] <bin_bash> the usual
[23:35] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: are you worried about its' heat or were you just curious?
[23:36] <bin_bash> jrib, that's not the linux motto.
[23:36] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, it does overheat some times and I'm trying to see how hot it runs for games and things where it does not
[23:36] <jrib> bin_bash: sure it is; it's one of them
[23:36] <bin_bash> jrib, no. It is not.
[23:37] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, I mean I know it likely bails at about 95C , but I'm curious if it is always very close or if its just certain things that push it over the top
[23:37] <jrib> bin_bash: not literally, no.
[23:37] <chrisan> can I install ubuntu 12.10 to harddrive from a 12.04 live cd i made a while back?
[23:37] <TheLordOfTime> bin_bash:  htop doesn't reliably show the amount of *actual* ram used.  Did you look at free -m ?
[23:37] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: yeah i see nvidia.com says the max is 105 C for that card. maybe invest in an aftermarket heatsink+fan assembly?
[23:38] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, tbh it seems as if theres only one game that causes it to overheat, which it REALLY should not since other more demanding ones work fine
[23:38] <genii-around> chrisan: Yes, using debootstrap
[23:38] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : firefox can gobble some memory ... right now my firefox is using 243 MiB
[23:38] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, so I suspect really messed up rendering code
[23:38] <bin_bash> yeah firefox is horrible, Tex_Nick
[23:38] <chrisan> ty genii-around
[23:39] <genii-around> !debootstrap | chrisan
[23:39] <chrisan> sweet thx
[23:40] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: some just use cards badly, yeah
[23:40] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : as jrib pointed out though ... that's what memory is for
[23:40] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, but on boot I shouldn't be using like 300mB that's riduclous
[23:40] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: have you ever used it under Windows to read temps there?
[23:40] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, 2nd favourite explanation I have is FUCK YOU NVIDIA AND YOUR BROKEN DRIVERS!
[23:40] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, don't run windows :)
[23:41] <jrib> JennyBlueBird: please mind your language here
[23:41] <JennyBlueBird> oh , sorry
[23:41] <JennyBlueBird> I mean, even if the code is bad, the driver should not even let the card get that hot, should it ?
[23:42] <jrib> bin_bash: 300 MB of 4 GB?  I honestly would not be concerned.  It's totally dependent on the applications you use.  Use htop to track down what's using the most ram and decide if it's not worth it or if there is some bug that makes it use more ram than it should.  Unless you're hitting swap, I wouldn't worry at all about it
[23:42] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: it'll get close to their maximum then either downclock or crash the game
[23:42] <jhutchins_wk> bin_bash: No, you should be using all of your RAM on boot.
[23:42] <bin_bash> jhutchins_wk, wat
[23:42] <jhutchins_wk> Yup.
[23:42] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, it brings down the card as it is
[23:42] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : that's probably about what this box is using immediately after boot
[23:43] <bin_bash> jhutchins_wk, are you retarded
[23:43] <jrib> bin_bash: have you taken some time to read the links ubottu gave you about how ram is used on ilnux?
[23:43] <escott> bin_bash, do you leave the lights on when nobody is in the room?
[23:43] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, black screen, can't get it back without shutting comp down and letting it cool for a while
[23:43] <Ben64>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[23:43] <Ben64> Mem:          7985       7858        127          0        295       5146
[23:43] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, power cycling the PSU dosn't do it either. I literally just have to wait for it to cool when it happens.
[23:43] <Ben64> bin_bash: you don't need the attitude, jhutchins_wk is correct
[23:43] <bin_bash> ...
[23:44] <daftykins> JennyBlueBird: daym!
[23:44] <JennyBlueBird> daftykins, yea, I'm starting to think I need to try older drivers or something
[23:44] <escott> bin_bash, ram is like a light you cannot turn off. if its on you might as well put someone in the room and use it.
[23:44] <JennyBlueBird> but as I remember the last gen drivers were not exactly rock solid either
[23:45] <bin_bash> escott, sure, if I'm playing minecraft or compiling code
[23:45] <bin_bash> but at idle it shouldn't use much
[23:45] <Ben64> no, all the time. read up on how linux uses memory
[23:45] <Ben64> it is very well documented
[23:45] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, it caches harddrive access, check the +/- buffers line, it gives a better idea of how much is actually used
[23:45] <genii-around> JennyBlueBird: Are you using something like nvclock to control the fan?
[23:45] <KaiSforza> you guys are obviously misunderstanding WHICH used memory bin_bash is talking about.
[23:46] <JennyBlueBird> genii-around, no, this started before I even installed it
[23:46] <escott> bin_bash, i dont care what you are doing. you are spending money powering that ram. the kernel uses it because to not use it would be a waste.
[23:46] <JennyBlueBird> genii-around, and it's only in Heroes of Newerth :/
[23:46] <JennyBlueBird> genii-around, all other games, even more intensive ones, work ok
[23:46] <JennyBlueBird> and turning graphics settings down doesn't resolve the issue
[23:46] <jhutchins_wk> KaiSforza: No, bin_bash doesn't understand memory management in linux.  It's not like you get better MPG if you don't use the RAM.
[23:46] <JennyBlueBird> so I assume it is some combination of weirdo rendering code and bad drivers
[23:46] <MartynKeigher> hey guys...whats the quick way to enable ssh on a ubuntu desktop?
[23:46] <jrib> !ssh | MartynKeigher
[23:47] <genii-around> JennyBlueBird: Ah, OK. Yeah, sounds just like some freak combination of app and driver or so
[23:47] <escott> bin_bash, that 5146 cached can be discarded at any time, but it speeds things up if you happen to hit something in the cache. what you want to ask is free+cached. if that is small you are running out of memory
[23:48] <zenloop> Hey guys, I have a quick question about repositories and ubuntu.  I am using chef to install my machines and I have fixed the version numbers. I am using a ton of oneiric repositories (oneiric oeiric-{backports|updates} with components main restricted univers multivers,  problem is that packages seem to no longer be available.  It is like a new version has moved into main and the older version disappears.  Is there a component for old
[23:48] <zenloop> releases?
[23:48] <krabador> if casper disables proprietary graphic drivers, how can i build a livecd with working ati drivers?
[23:48] <escott> bin_bash, ie the second line of free -m. ignore the first line entirely
[23:48] <KaiSforza> jhutchins_wk: sometimes people use /tmp as a ram disk. I do. it uses 4G on my system, so i sometimes i can't use 8G of ram in total, i only can use 4-5. your preconception on what ram usage should look like is just for ubuntu, not for every type of linux. Yes, ram caches and buffers, and that is okay, but the actual used ram shouldn't be full.
[23:48] <krabador> must i install properly ubuntu on a usb pendrive?
[23:48] <jrib> zenloop: that's how the repositories work, old versions aren't kept around in a component
[23:48] <bin_bash> escott, yes, I use conky to report free -m
[23:49] <k1l> bin_bash: did you know about: linuxatemyram.com ?
[23:49] <zenloop> @jrib: so is the only solution to host my own repository of ubuntu?
[23:49] <KaiSforza> bin_bash: also, 380M of ram used is not a lot.
[23:49] <bin_bash> KaiSforza, on boot it is
[23:49] <k1l> bin_bash: it explains what free displays and what is the sense of that
[23:49] <zenloop> @jrib: is there another repository I can reference?
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> KaiSforza: I've been running Linux since about 1995, I've managed six different distributions professionally, and I've probably been working with computers since before bin_bash's parents were born.
[23:49] <Senjai> krabador: no, you should install it improperly
[23:49] <Senjai> xD
[23:50] <bin_bash> that seems doubtful
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> I've written more documentation that he's read.
[23:50] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : are you experiencing system problems that lead you to suspect memory problems?
[23:50] <krabador> Senjai, perfect, how can i build a bootable live ubuntu with working ati driver inside?
[23:50] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, not especially. Once over 2gb of RAM is being used though, the system slows down considerably
[23:51] <jhutchins_wk> bin_bash: I've played Gravity Wars (Asteroids) loaded onto a PDP1 from paper tape.  Round CRT, no keyboard.
[23:51] <Senjai> jhutchins_wk: uhmm, stop with the appeal to ethos please. 'Credentials' dont mean anything
[23:51] <Peyam> Hi, How does outlook work on ubuntu?
[23:51] <Senjai> Peyam: it doesn't. Ubuntu doesn't use outlook. Outlook is a microsoft product
[23:51] <bin_bash> jhutchins_wk, that's great. One day, when my children ask me "What's a cool story?" I'll tell them all about you and then say "Now, kids. That's a cool story."
[23:52] <Senjai> bin_bash: dont poke at his ego anymore. It might pop and cause a tsunami
[23:52] <k1l> bin_bash: as long as there is no swap used that ram usage shouldnt slow the system dosn
[23:52] <bin_bash> LOL Senjai
[23:52] <k1l> *down
[23:52] <jrib> zenloop: oneiric-updates and oneiric-security are where you are going to be getting new versions.  I believe the plain "oneiric" should not be touched.  Having said that, you generally want to get things from -security and those versions *can* change
[23:52] <xangua> Peyam: outlook.com works well on any browser
[23:52] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : that would be a cpu usage issue i would think ... again look at "system monitor" to see what process's are eating the cpu
[23:52] <dydzEz2__> anyone here have a thinkpad x1 carbon
[23:52] <bin_bash> k1l, yeah I'm not real sure why. doesn't really matter though. cpu is fine. but RAM is high at that point
[23:53] <k1l> bin_bash: and i dont see the actual issue besides you dont like the technically correct answers
[23:53] <Peyam> xangua: hahah I can too go directly to gmail.com
[23:53] <Peyam> Senjai: I ment on wine
[23:53] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, does it swap ?
[23:53] <xangua> !appdb | Peyam
[23:53] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, yeah I have swap on
[23:53] <jrib> zenloop: with your current strategy, how are you going to ensure security updates?
[23:53] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, I meant, does it actually start to swap a lot when you have high memory usage ?
[23:53] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, yea
[23:53] <Senjai> Peyam: you'd have to go to #winhq, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not a WINE support channel ;)
[23:54] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, yea ok, that's not just the buffers and cache then
[23:54] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, does it do this just sitting idle you say ?
[23:54] <JennyBlueBird> because if so then something in that system is leaking
[23:54] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, no, it usually doesn't go that high, but I do suspect that firefox is leaking
[23:54] <daftykins> FF is terrible for it
[23:55] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, heh, firefox is kinda infamous for it
[23:55] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, when using minecraft or other java applications, I expect high RAM usage because, well, java
[23:55] <bin_bash> it just seems like if I have 4gb it shouldn't slow
[23:55] <Peyam> Senjai: it is still an ubuntu issue.
[23:55] <k1l> bin_bash: that swapping is making it slow
[23:55] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, top will tell you what is using it
[23:55] <Senjai> Peyam: It is not an ubuntu issue
[23:56] <Senjai> Peyam: it is a wine issue. Ubuntu doesnt suppoort wine, Ubuntu supports what Ubuntu comes with
[23:56] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, running any plugins in firefox or just the vanilla browser ?
[23:56] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, script-blocking plugins and stuff like that.
[23:56] <k1l> bin_bash: and how many tabs?
[23:56] <bin_bash> k1l, never more than 10.
[23:56] <JennyBlueBird> bin_bash, well I dunno, just run top and check what is using it I guess
[23:56] <k1l> bin_bash: well look into top what is using the ram
[23:57] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: htop ftw xD
[23:57] <bin_bash> ^
[23:57] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : sometimes plugin-container drags my system down BAD ... it;s something firefox uses ... i kill it and the system comes back up to norm ... you might keep an eye on it when system bogs
[23:57] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, yeah usually i endup killing plugin-container
[23:57] <bin_bash> but sometimes I just hve to kill X and then restart it
[23:57] <JennyBlueBird> Senjai, htop ? is this some new fancy thing that will make me feel old for not knowing about it ?
[23:58] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: its top on steriods, check it out with apt-get install htop
[23:58] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: you won't regret it
[23:58] <bin_bash> htop is awesome
[23:58] <daftykins> bin_bash: try using a clean FF profile for a bit
[23:58] <bin_bash> it's colored
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> ah yea, that is kinda neat
[23:58] <bin_bash> daftykins, that might be a good idea
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> same hotkeys ?
[23:58] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: ye
[23:58] <SirClueless> can anyone help debug my graphics driver? i'm trying to just ignore my hybrid graphics card and use my integrated one
[23:58] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: also addds some others.
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> oooooooh
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> that mennu
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> :D
[23:58] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: Ikr
[23:58] <JennyBlueBird> ty :)
[23:59] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: anytime
[23:59] <bin_bash> JennyBlueBird, lol
[23:59] <fbdystang> bin_bash: OK I am using a live cd to copy my hd over to another SATA RAID drive. When I mount the RAID drive, it does not allow me the option to write to it and that it is owned by root. How do I copy the HD over?
[23:59] <escott> fbdystang, what is your objective in copying it over
[23:59] <Senjai> fbdystang: sudo chown username /mount/point