[03:31] <famax8> !tty
[03:31] <famax8> !bass
[03:31] <famax8> !ask
[03:33] <famax8> !potato
[03:34] <famax8> excellent :) this whole forum system works like a swiss clock
[14:53] <crocket> I just chose "Replace windows 7 with ubuntu studio" with LVM option, and it automatically wiped out my SSD.
[14:53] <crocket> How is my SSD formatted now?
[14:53] <crocket> I can't check it now.
[14:54] <zequence> crocket: It probably has one ext4 logical volume partition and a swap partition
[14:54] <zequence> crocket: Did the install fail, or something?
[14:54] <crocket> zequence, It is being installed
[14:54] <crocket> And it sucks.
[14:54] <crocket>  /dev/sda2 ext2 244MB /boot
[14:54] <crocket>  /dev/sda3 118GB lvm
[14:55] <crocket> ext2 and 244MB for /boot?
[14:55] <crocket> It's a disaster.
[14:55] <crocket> I need at least 5GB for /boot
[14:55] <zequence> crocket: Are you saying you didn't do any manual paritioning, and yet you got this partition layout?
[14:56] <crocket> zequence, yes
[14:56] <zequence> crocket: Which release?
[14:56] <crocket> zequence, I thought it would let me partition manually.
[14:56] <crocket> 12.10
[14:56] <crocket> 12.10 ubuntu studio 64bit
[14:57] <crocket> 224MB for /boot is just ridiculous.
[14:57] <zequence> crocket: If the install goes through, you can always just remove the /boot partition in /etc/fstab
[14:57] <zequence> And move stuff
[14:57] <zequence> I think it should work anyway
[14:58] <crocket> zequence, ext2 is lame, too
[14:58] <crocket> It's also an SSD.
[14:58] <zequence> We'll need to do some testing on that. That's of course not meant to happen
[14:58] <zequence> It's probably not a Ubuntu Studio specific issue either
[14:59] <zequence> Well, the fun is over for today. Time to go home
[14:59] <crocket> ext4 is stable.
[15:21] <crocket> hmm
[15:55] <crocket> showtime
[16:28] <baskak> 	hi. how do i turn OFF artificial spatilization when using usb multichannel audio interface? in the "sound settings" window it manifests itself as "analog surround 7.1" profile, which is inadequate (i have 2.0 setup) and it applies some bombastic fx and virtual channels to the stereo?
[16:34] <baskak> also i have no input.
[16:36] <baskak> and jack doesn't start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1617082/
[16:47] <baskak> more info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1617109/
[16:56] <zequence> baskak: Make sure pulseaudio is not actively streaming audio when you start jack
[16:56] <zequence> baskak: Kill jackdbus before attempting again: killall -9 jackdbus
[16:56] <zequence> The interaction between jack and pulseaudio is a little buggy
[16:57] <zequence> baskak: Actually, even smarter would be to have PA set to use your internal device, and start jack only with the usb
[16:57] <baskak> zequence: okay, i will, but how about regular use with usb?
[16:57] <zequence> baskak: You should be able to set PA for a stereo profile, I think
[16:57] <baskak> zequence: only if it's internal chip
[16:58] <baskak> zequence: if usb, there's only this fake surround profile available
[16:58] <zequence> baskak: Ah, then you might need some alsa wizardry to make that happen.
[16:58] <zequence> Or, PA wizardry
[16:58] <baskak> perhaps you are wizards, ubuntustudioers :)
[16:59] <zequence> I haven't done a lot of alsa configuration, ro PA configuration.
[16:59] <zequence> Could be it's possible to force stereo somehow
[17:00] <baskak> zequence: btw. what is this fake surround for? it tries to put all channels (with reverbs) into two physical channels if it detects it's a multichannel device?
[17:00] <zequence> baskak: How many channels?
[17:01] <zequence> on the device, I mean
[17:01] <baskak> zequence: device has 8 outs
[17:02] <zequence> baskak: I'm pretty sure this is a alsa config problem. PA can only read a 8 channel interface. It doesn't know what else to do with 8 channels
[17:02] <zequence> The problem is in the config for that card, specifically
[17:02] <baskak> and specifically with 12.10, cause with 12.04 i had no problem
[17:02] <zequence> Oh?
[17:02] <zequence> That's weird
[17:03] <zequence> baskak: What's the device called?
[17:03] <baskak> yes. i only had to config alsamixer, which shows all the physical and virtual inputs kind of crossconnected
[17:03] <baskak> m-audio fast track ultra
[17:04] <baskak> 12.04 had no "analog surround" profile forced on it
[17:04] <baskak> *and outputs
[17:05] <zequence> baskak: How's the latency on that device? Are you ever able to get it very low?
[17:05] <zequence> Just curious. Haven't ever used it.
[17:06] <baskak> zequence: on linux? can't tell you now, but as i remember it was okay
[17:06] <baskak> this was not present on 12.04 http://imgur.com/QujeEcm
[17:07] <baskak> should i talk with #pulseaudio people?
[17:09] <zequence> baskak: Sorry, baskak. Can't tell you what the problem is from what I know. You could ask about it on #pulseaudio. And, I think it would be good to make a bug report about it, in fact
[17:10] <baskak> zequence: all right, thanks!
[19:12] <SonikkuAmerica> (Kind of a relevant question) I installed Ubuntu Studio 12.10 under Wubi (using the Xubuntu 12.10 trick). Now that Ubuntu Studio will be included in Wubi for 13.04, should I continue to use the trick and just update to 13.04 that way, or dump this install for the real Wubi come the 13.04 release?
[19:14] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: That's really up to you, I think. The only real downside I know about Wubi is really slow disk access. But, I guess you're afraid to mess up your Win install?
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, I kind of like my Windows install taking up my whole hard drive (partitioning is messy + there's unmovable space prohibiting my from shrinking my NTFS)
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> *me
[19:15] <zequence> Not sure if the slow disk access only concerns the linux "parition". Might be that the access to the ntfs partition(s) is ok
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I have virtually no problems running Studio 12.10; it runs as fast as Windows does
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> under Wubi
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Thanks though.
[21:20] <UnWorldly> are there people still working actively on zynaddsubfx
[21:20] <UnWorldly> the mailing list has been silent for 2 months
[21:26] <Unit193> http://zynaddsubfx.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=zynaddsubfx/zynaddsubfx;a=summary indicates it's not too dead.
[21:30] <UnWorldly> yeah, 2 months
[21:32] <Unit193> That's not really that old.
[21:38] <lucas_> hi, i get a d-bus error when i watch a youtube video and then fire up qjackctl. Apparently I should kill pulseaudio and then restart jackd. I'll do it gladly, but is there a more permanent way to solve it? Thanks.
[21:39] <lucas_> 12.10 here.
[22:45] <zym0> Anyone knows how i can install java runtime envoirment? I need it to install a printer-driver but i can't figure out how to get it working...