[00:00] <knome> it will run... smoothly? i suppose that depends what you're going to do and what you think is smooth
[00:01] <iwr> browsing, 8+tabs in chrome, maybe word editor open? :)
[00:03] <pleia2> my netbook is 1.6ghz + 1G of ram and it's quite usable, except for flash videos (tend to end up being a bit choppy)
[00:04] <David-A> iwr: that may work. the biggest memory eater nowadays are web-browsers, both chromium and firefox. but 8 not too heavy tabs should be fine. high-definition video will probably not be smooth with an old graphics card.
[00:05] <iwr> no, its mostly basic work
[00:05] <pleia2> libreoffice will load slowly, but it shouldn't be a problem once it's launched
[00:05] <iwr> excellent
[00:05] <pleia2> (I use it on said netbook for Impress presentations)
[00:05] <iwr> thank you guys for help
[00:22] <genii-around> pleia2: I have a similar spec netbook ( Acer D260 ), I highly recommend some cheap SSD for it. After I swapped the drive without changing anything else, everything just zips along.
[00:24] <pleia2> oh right, mine does have an ssd and I'm sure that helps
[00:27] <Unit193> Hrm, so I'm the only one that has had some issues with 1G ram?  Swapping out was a killer, I optimized firefox and then my kernel also added zswap support which also helped.
[00:31] <genii-around> Unit193: My machine ran like a dog. Out of kubuntu, regular ubuntu, and xubuntu only xubuntu was marginally usable. Kubuntu would take 5-6 minutes to load to a usable desktop. Swapping the drive for an SSD took that down to under a minute. Although I'm mostly using xubuntu and lubuntu on it now, both which zip along. I may bump RAM up to 2G
[00:33] <pleia2> I use chrome (firefox is leaner now, but not good enough)
[00:34] <pleia2> I used the default gnome2 in 8.04 when I first got it, but then switched to xubuntu
[02:01] <al___> Does anyone have any experience trying to load the scanner on an HP8600 all-in-one wireless?
[02:14] <AneX> im on winxp and im about to install xubuntu. after install the only internet connection i have is wifi. will i beable to auto connect to any wifi signal?
[02:14] <AneX> im on old laptop
[02:14] <Unit193> Depends on your chipset.
[02:16] <AneX> im on intel centrino 1.4 ghz
[02:16] <Unit193> What's the wifi card?
[02:17] <AneX> wifi is intel pro/wireless 2200bg
[02:18] <Unit193> AneX: Should be good.
[02:19] <Unit193> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ipw2200
[02:21] <AneX> thx, where in xubuntu will i find wireless connections for future knoledge
[02:21] <Unit193> Right in the panel, may offer you to connect.
[02:22] <AneX> oh ok coo im just sick in tired of windows
[02:23] <AneX> ive used puppy linux and ubuntu before but not xubuntu
[02:23] <Unit193> http://docs.xubuntu.org/internet-networks.html  That may help.
[02:23] <AneX> thx
[02:42] <AneX_> is unetbootin the best program to burn this xubuntu iso to my usb drive?
[02:44] <bazhang> if it works for you, yes
[02:44] <AneX_> aight thx
[02:46] <David-A> AneX_: remember that you may have different options when you right-click and left-click the network icon in the panel
[06:44] <zruty> apt-get is constantly coming back with some error. I tried other sources, but same thing. What can I do? (unable to locate package, or has no installation candidate)
[06:46] <Unit193> And you did apt-get update?
[06:46] <Unit193> Can you paste the exact error, or pastebin if long?
[06:47] <zruty> Oh, bl*st... I knew I forgot something... gee what a beginner's mistake...
[06:47] <zruty> so sorry to bother you!
[06:47] <zruty> But thanks!
[06:48] <Unit193> Sure thing, no problem.
[07:25] <Noskcaj> does anyone actually use the xubuntu twitter account anymore? why can't we have it tweeting daily, a similar issue affects the facebook page
[11:41] <jonas____> good day
[11:41] <jonas____> peeps
[11:41] <jonas____> where is xflock4 in quantal
[11:41] <jonas____> oi
[11:41] <jonas____> ?
[11:41] <knome> !enter | jonas____
[11:42] <jonas____> ok , canyou tell me, where is xflock4 in quantal ?
[11:42] <knome> i don't understand the question
[11:43] <koegs> jonas____: /usr/bin/xflock4
[11:43] <koegs> or "which xflock4" :)
[11:43] <jonas____> alright so in xfce 4.8 there was an app named xflock, that was a small icon used to lock the screen
[11:43] <jonas____> that paclkage is missing in quantal
[11:43] <jonas____> koegs its missing in quantal
[11:43] <jonas____> :S
[11:44] <koegs> nope, i am on quantal right now
[11:44] <knome> jonas____, are you talking about a panel applet?
[11:44] <jonas____> u have it installed
[11:44] <jonas____> yes that one
[11:44] <knome> jonas____, try adding the action buttons applet and then edit preferences
[11:44] <jonas____> still xflock ain showing in synaptic
[11:44] <knome> jonas____, you should be able to create a lock-button from there
[11:44] <jonas____> fair engouh
[13:28] <donnie> Anyone know of any good, free, WORKING, proxy's?
[13:32] <GridCube> not really, but there is tor, it works for me, just have to be careful with it
[16:28] <badpie> Have any of you ever said a bad word?
[16:31] <koegs> badpie: maybe someone in #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:32] <badpie> I'm in the process of installing Xubuntu and I presumed this channel was there to entertain me while I wait, a very thoughtful service to provide.
[16:33] <koegs> badpie: only for support, #xubuntu-offtopic is meant for chatting
[16:33] <badpie> Ok, sorry.
[16:34] <badpie> Then riddle me this: Ubuntu 12.10 was too much for my netbook, even when i log in with the xfce env. Is Xubuntu going to be any different?
[18:04] <mikodo> sorry, test
[18:26] <tjingboem> it takes a long time before thunar finds my disks. What is happening?
[18:30] <tjingboem> it takes 2 minutes after logging in before i can use Xubuntu. Is this error known?
[18:36] <Noskcaj>  does anyone actually use the xubuntu twitter account anymore? why can't we have it tweeting daily, a similar issue affects the facebook page
[18:41] <TheSheep> Noskcaj: facebook page, seriously?
[18:41] <TheSheep> tjingboem: do you have anything suspicious in dmesg?
[18:51] <tjingboem> don't know - i updated today, yesterday there was no problem
[19:04] <TheSheep> tjingboem: just open a terminal and type 'dmesg' and look at the messages
[19:07] <tjingboem> i see a big difference in time between these 2:
[19:07] <tjingboem> [   22.858009] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[19:07] <tjingboem> [  667.721017] usb 1-3: reset high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd
[19:07] <tjingboem> the rest follows each other very quickly
[19:08] <TheSheep> the most recent ones are at the end
[19:08] <TheSheep> anything that looks like IO errors?
[19:12] <tjingboem> [   10.564980] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[19:13] <TheSheep> tjingboem: that's ok
[19:17] <swiftkick> sup guise
[19:17] <swiftkick> i was just re-running the latest xubuntu installer... which appears to be the same as the latest ubuntu installer
[19:17] <swiftkick> no more mdraid support from the installer?
[19:17] <tjingboem> lots of text, TheSheep. i will disconnect my usb cardreader and reboot - see what happens...
[19:54] <tjingboem> TheSheep - don't know why, but disconnecting the empty cardreader seems to solve problem
[19:56] <TheSheep> tjingboem: fun
[19:57] <tjingboem> :) and :(
[20:08] <dr_dan> hi.  I have acquired a Dell Inspiron e1405  (Intel Core Duo @1.6 Ghz)  with just 1GB of RAM.  is xubuntu 12.10 going to be too slow?
[20:10] <dr_dan> go ahead with answer.  i will brb.
[20:10] <TheSheep> too slow for what?
[20:10] <dr_dan> oh hi!
[20:10] <dr_dan> well its for my 12 year son.  he just wanted a machine for online (web)  games  like miniclips
[20:10] <dr_dan> flash based i think
[20:11] <TheSheep> most should work fine, but some are written in a horrible way and need quite some computing power
[20:11] <dr_dan> yeah i thought so
[20:11] <dr_dan> so should i find a slightly more powerful laptop?
[20:12] <TheSheep> I would give it a try
[20:12] <TheSheep> if you can
[20:12] <dr_dan> the thing is 6 years old i think
[20:12] <dr_dan> ok.   go with 11.10?   or  12.10  verison
[20:12] <dr_dan> or it doesnt matter
[20:12] <TheSheep> my parents are using a worse computer with ubuntu
[20:12] <TheSheep> but they mostly read news and use openoffice
[20:13] <TheSheep> shouldn't matter much
[20:13] <dr_dan> ok.
[20:13] <dr_dan> thank TS
[20:13] <dr_dan> have a good one
[20:13] <TheSheep> good luck
[20:13] <dr_dan> thanks
[20:13] <dr_dan> bye
[20:40] <hhhzzzain> who has libreoffice on their xubuntu?
[20:41] <hhhzzzain> gridcube, do you have libreoffice on your xubuntu?
[20:41] <GridCube> yes
[20:41] <hhhzzzain> which version is it?
[20:42] <knome> hhhzzzain, please don't ping random people
[20:42] <knome> hhhzzzain, even if GridCube replied, it's not good manners
[20:43] <GridCube> good point
[20:44] <hhhzzzain> you just joined so It is a good time to ask.
[20:44] <pleia2> hhhzzzain: do you have a specific problem/question in mind? a lot of us install libreoffice on xubuntu but it's hard to know how to help if you don't ask ;)
[20:44] <pleia2> and knowing what version of Xubuntu you're running and ask about is helpful too
[20:44] <hhhzzzain> my question: which version of libreoffice is the lastest using the ubuntu software centre + updates?
[20:44] <GridCube> LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
[20:45] <knome> hhhzzzain, possibly true, but it doesn't make pinging random people good manners.
[20:45] <pleia2> hhhzzzain: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice
[20:47] <hhhzzzain> really, if you are idle, make you status idle, otherwise don't expect people to know that you are busy.
[20:47] <GridCube> hhhzzzain, its not like that, but please dont enter to an argument here
[20:47] <pleia2> hhhzzzain: that's not really how it works :)
[20:47] <GridCube> lets just all move on please
[20:48] <pleia2> hhhzzzain: the link I gave gives current versions for recent versions of ubuntu, does that answer your question?
[20:49] <hhhzzzain> yes (but it is also listed if you go to ubuntu software centre). I wanted to know that through "check for updates" it will update to 3.6.5 (current version on the website).
[20:50] <pleia2> yes
[20:51] <hhhzzzain> so the current version on ubuntu is 3.6.5?
[20:51] <hhhzzzain> or 3.6.2?
[20:52] <hhhzzzain> so I should download from libreoffice directly?
[20:52] <hhhzzzain> to get 3.6.5?
[20:52] <pleia2> hhhzzzain: I'm going to assume you're on 12.04?
[20:52] <hhhzzzain> 12.10
[20:53] <pleia2> ok, then according to the site I linked the current version available for 12.10 is 3.6.2
[20:53] <pleia2> not 3.6.5
[20:53] <pleia2> looks like 3.6.5 hasn't been packaged yet, not even for 13.04
[20:54] <pleia2> it may need more testing, or has bugs the developers want to see fixed before packaging it, or many other reasons :)
[20:55] <pleia2> if you absolutely need 3.6.5 and don't mind that it hasn't been accepted by ubuntu developers yet, I suppose you could download it from libreoffice's site, but I tend to recommend sticking with the current version with your release for the best experience stability, etc wise
[20:55] <hhhzzzain> I would have answered this myself if I knew: the most updated ubuntu packages immediately appears in ubuntu software centre. (I thought there was a delay).
[20:56] <pleia2> they first go into a "proposed" repository where developers and contributors can test them
[20:56] <pleia2> so that's the delay
[23:53] <dydzEz2__> didnt someone here have a thinkpad x1 carbon
[23:53] <koegs> yes
[23:53] <dydzEz2__>  ah yes it was you koegs
[23:53] <dydzEz2__> do you have dual boot with your windows 8 setup
[23:54] <dydzEz2__> wondering if you installed xubuntu under UEFI (secure boot off though) and then used boot-repair
[23:54] <koegs> nope, i am not using uefi
[23:55] <koegs> i have dualboot win8 and xubuntu, but not uefi
[23:55] <dydzEz2__>  ah ok
[23:55] <dydzEz2__> but you had to use boot-repair right?
[23:55] <koegs> boot-repair?
[23:56] <dydzEz2__> oh wow you didnt? it just fixed up grub, i had to use it. i installed it a first time on legacy and when i would go into grub and hit w8 it wouldnt work
[23:57] <koegs> hm, i had win7 first, then xubuntu, at some point later i have remove win7 and installed win8
[23:57] <dydzEz2__> oh so you dont have like lenovo's win 8 recovery thing
[23:57] <koegs> after that i have reinstalled grub with the live-cd
[23:57] <dydzEz2__> oh you did that i see
[23:57] <koegs> noppe
[23:57] <dydzEz2__> you used the live-cd to fix up grub
[23:57] <dydzEz2__> you just did it manually eh?
[23:57] <koegs> yeah, had to, because win8 overwrote grub
[23:57] <dydzEz2__> yeah
[23:58] <koegs> but that is just a matter of minutes
[23:58] <dydzEz2__> boot-repair worked under uefi, i think imma setup it under legacy so alll live-cd's will be easier to work around
[23:58] <dydzEz2__> is there a forum post on how you did it exactly, if boot-repair doesn work
[23:58] <koegs> yeah, did not want to read uefi docs and how-tos, i am good with legacy :D
[23:59] <koegs> i can give you the german ubuntuusers wiki :D
[23:59] <dydzEz2__> yeah
[23:59] <dydzEz2__> ill just translate on chrome or something
[23:59] <dydzEz2__> and work it out
[23:59] <dydzEz2__> thanks