[00:18] <yofel> bug 1117365
[00:20] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[00:20] <apachelogger> no backtrace
[00:20] <apachelogger> also I think a user installed plasmoid is broken
[00:20] <apachelogger> triggering a bug in plasma
[01:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: didn't we fix bug 1086840 like ages ago?
[04:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: We did, but then it came back.
[05:04] <Mirv> Riddell: ok
[05:23] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1077196] klipper does not save contents from closed windows @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077196 (by ill)
[06:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ack
[07:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I think we should put that in the experimental PPA for all Kubuntu Devs to try out
[07:03] <shadeslayer> btw digikam was tagged 
[07:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: trololol
[07:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no revisions pushed to bzf
[07:07] <shadeslayer> *bzr
[07:09] <shadeslayer> afiestas: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/user-manager/scratch-master/view/head:/src/lib/accountmodel.cpp#L34 , synchronous dbus calls?
[08:40]  * popey tickles Riddell with bug 1117895
[08:51] <shadeslayer> popey: mmm ... requires a test build on armhf
[09:04] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[09:05] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: good evening
[09:05] <shadeslayer> hi
[09:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why does it require a test build on arm specifically?
[09:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm I've a feeling I might have done a workaround for bug 1086840 rather than a fix
[09:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: because cmake doesn't find opengles
[09:30] <shadeslayer> and there's a patch for that
[09:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/666638/
[09:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so .. can't be sync'd , needs merging :)
[09:42] <popey> ☹
[09:43] <shadeslayer> should be easy enough 
[09:44] <yofel_> one should add a notifcation helper hook in kdenlive that installs the libav extra plugins
[09:44] <yofel_> it's kinda useless without most of the encoders
[09:45] <yofel> good morning btw. :)
[09:46] <shadeslayer> hey yofel :)
[09:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: plasma-mobile is still stuck in proposed
[09:49] <shadeslayer> any ideas why?
[09:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nope but we hvae load of stuff stuck in proposed today
[09:54] <shadeslayer> well
[09:54] <shadeslayer> plasma-mobile was uploaded quite some time ago
[09:54] <shadeslayer> and I thought it was stuck because of declarative-plasmoids
[09:54] <shadeslayer> but since that's been uploaded ....
[09:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: a problem in kubuntu-active which depends on language-selector-kde which no longer exists
[09:55] <Riddell> I fixed that
[09:55] <Riddell> but there's another issue with kubuntu-meta on powerpc
[09:56] <shadeslayer> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/raring_probs.html
[09:56] <shadeslayer> nothing there too
[09:57] <Riddell> out of date on powerpc: kubuntu-active, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-full (from 1.267)
[09:57] <Riddell> really, there's your problem
[09:58] <shadeslayer> oh ... uh ... okay
[09:58] <shadeslayer> where did you find that?
[09:58] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[09:59] <shadeslayer> ahh
[09:59] <Riddell> you can follow the logic a bit through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[09:59] <shadeslayer> I was looking at the wrong file
[10:12] <Riddell> ug "Start in 20 hours" powerpc needs to be dropped
[10:16] <shadeslayer> heh, it's community supported
[10:16] <shadeslayer> for them old Macbook Pro's
[10:18] <Riddell> but with the new -proposed system it affects everyone
[10:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: hooray for workarounds :P
[10:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh, I thought I had pushed
[10:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope
[10:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but yeah, I also was expecting it to go into experimental
[10:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah makes sense imho
[10:42] <shadeslayer> while you're pushing, why not setup the recipe as well
[10:42] <shadeslayer> so I can continue looking at GObject introspection and QMetaObject
[10:43] <apachelogger> hm
[10:43] <apachelogger> can't push
[10:43] <apachelogger> don't have my key with me
[10:44] <shadeslayer> push it later on this evening then, I don't think there's a huge rush at the moment
[10:44] <apachelogger> right now checking if perhaps it got autosynced to laptop
[10:44] <shadeslayer> mm okay
[10:46] <apachelogger> not synced
[10:46] <apachelogger> will have to wait
[10:53] <soee> uhm i reading some posts and see that arch servers were down due to high interest in kde upgrades :) 
[10:53] <soee> also kde had some problems ? :>
[10:54] <Mirv> Riddell: FYI going to lunch but Didier noted (L)GPL requires LICENSE files, so I submitted https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,47111 to upstream. the current tarball would be fine with just repackaged and added with those.
[10:54] <Mirv> qtchooser tarball, that is
[10:55] <shadeslayer> soee: heh :)
[10:56] <shadeslayer> too bad launchpad doesn't provide proper statistics
[10:56] <shadeslayer> it does provide *some* statistics
[10:59] <Riddell> Mirv: well spotted
[11:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: it does provide the stats you usually want to know 
[11:34] <yofel> the hard part is making them human readable :(
[11:34] <shadeslayer> 2.4G    .cache/telepathy/avatars
[11:34] <shadeslayer> :(
[11:35] <shadeslayer> how big is your cache
[11:35] <yofel> here on this laptop
[11:35] <yofel> 1.2M    /home/yofel/.cache/telepathy/
[11:35] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:35] <shadeslayer> lucky you
[11:36] <yofel>  ~/.launchpadlib/ is also fun sometimes
[11:36] <yofel> at least if you use our scripts often
[11:40] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: Riddell https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47647 < we might want to keep track of that
[11:55] <yofel> just how much does it cache there to reach 2.4G ?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> alot
[11:56] <shadeslayer> I think I saw 10-15 dupes of each avatar
[11:56] <shadeslayer> *atleast*
[11:56] <shadeslayer> but dolphin got super slow
[11:58] <shadeslayer> you probably don't have enough accounts added :P
[11:58] <shadeslayer> I have 4 of them
[11:59] <yofel> yet another unreproducable support request - bug 1118244
[11:59] <Riddell> I have 450MB in there, nasty
[12:05] <Riddell> jr@kubuntu-armhf00:~$ sudo chroot raring/
[12:05] <Riddell> FATAL: kernel too old
[12:06] <Riddell> ScottK: your arm machines are fatal
[12:06] <yofel> did someone backport calligra?
[12:07] <Riddell> yofel: I've got it compiling here
[12:07] <yofel> ok
[12:07] <Riddell> actually just done, compiles without issues
[12:07] <Riddell> I'll put it into backports ppa
[12:07] <Riddell> for quantal
[12:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: chroot? why not just do DIST=raring pbuilder --login ?
[12:24] <yofel> I'm curious whether that will work
[12:25] <Riddell> hum  http://paste.kde.org/666788/  it's using precise
[12:26] <shadeslayer> needs -E
[12:26] <yofel> more like W: /home/jr/.pbuilderrc does not exist
[12:26] <yofel> not sure what the default one looks like
[12:26] <shadeslayer> oh .. uhh
[12:27] <Riddell> yofel: I see you have a .pbuilderrc, did you make that yourself or is there some automated way to do it?
[12:28] <yofel> uh... that was originally copied from somewhere else and then self extended
[12:28] <yofel> hm, /etc/pbuilderrc is really plain
[12:29] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/666806/
[12:29] <shadeslayer> wfm
[12:30] <yofel> well, you probably have a pbuilderrc
[12:30] <shadeslayer> yep
[12:33] <Riddell> bah kde-workspace fail
[12:34] <Riddell> /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput2.h:173:22: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef unsigned int BarrierEventID'
[12:35] <Riddell> hmm, look fiddly
[12:42] <shadeslayer> I'm getting reports that plasma crashes on startup on Quantal
[12:48] <soee> do not scare me :) i just upgraded my work machine :)
[12:49] <shadeslayer> well ... idk
[12:50] <shadeslayer> I've asked for a backtrace
[12:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html
[12:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: fun read, thanks :D
[12:56] <shadeslayer> it was fun how he debugged it :D
[12:59] <Adityab> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/666830/
[13:01] <shadeslayer> p.k.o froze my brwoser
[13:01] <shadeslayer> *browser
[13:01] <Adityab> heh
[13:02] <shadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/TXmQLNV.png
[13:02] <shadeslayer> I can scroll in the tiny area where the text is visible
[13:02] <Adityab> kde crashes froze some of my ability to work
[13:02] <Adityab> note to self: never do major upgrades when working
[13:02] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:02] <shadeslayer> Adityab: did you try out any of the RC's?
[13:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I've also noticed chromium and firefox freezing, so it's not just rekonq which breaks
[13:03] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:03] <shadeslayer> oh fun
[13:03] <shadeslayer> I leave the page open and switch to another tab and it goes bonkers
[13:04] <Adityab> shadeslayer: no
[13:04] <shadeslayer> hm
[13:04] <shadeslayer> the new menu stuff seems to be breaking things for you
[13:05] <Adityab> maybe i should simply compile all my kde like in the old days, that way i can easily rollback :S
[13:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ping
[13:05] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw 
[13:05] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I saw calligra was compiling on amd64 in raring
[13:05] <Riddell> and I uploaded it to backports ppa for quantal
[13:06] <smartboyhw> Riddell, compiled and succeeded:)
[13:06] <Riddell> yay
[13:06] <smartboyhw> However powerpc is still building:P
[13:06] <Riddell> grr, powerpc is really annoying me
[13:06] <Riddell> it's holding back the whole of 4.10
[13:06]  * yofel passes Riddell a cup of coffee
[13:06] <Riddell> well that and kde-workspace
[13:06] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell, now.... Any packaging to play?:P
[13:07] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you could backport calligra to precise
[13:07] <shadeslayer> Adityab: you can still rollback btw
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell, k
[13:07] <Riddell> I've no interest in backporting to precise but it seems to be fashionable
[13:07] <smartboyhw> fashionable (LOL)
[13:07] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you could also test 4.10 on quantal and see if you get the crash Adityab is having
[13:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell, er sorry I am on Raring:P
[13:08] <yofel> shadeslayer: that article reminds me a bit of me debugging kile back then. Not as weird an issue, but fun too
[13:08] <yofel> shadeslayer: but on topic, I still blame my t510's hard freezes on ASPM. But turning it off simply isn't an option :/
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Adityab is using Qt5 from the edgers PPA
[13:08] <Riddell> yofel: I had a cup of coffee already, the strong stuff, maybe that's the problem :)
[13:09] <yofel> heh
[13:09] <shadeslayer> this one https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta1
[13:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: umm
[13:09] <shadeslayer> I'm not exactly sure if that would cause issues
[13:09] <Adityab> beta1
[13:09] <yofel> it *shouldn't*
[13:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that /shouldn't/ matter
[13:10] <shadeslayer> right
[13:10] <Riddell> but it has a bad smell about it indeed
[13:10] <Adityab> I added that ppa a long long time ago...
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Adityab: would it be possible to purge that PPA?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> and can you check if you can reproduce the crash with a new user?
[13:10] <yofel> smartboyhw: that's what VM's are for ;)
[13:10] <shadeslayer> so that we can confirm it's not some plasmoid that's causing the crash
[13:10] <Adityab> yeah
[13:10] <Riddell> especially since the crash is in QtScript, maybe some runtime stuff going on there
[13:11]  * Adityab tries both
[13:11] <shadeslayer> try without removing the Qt5 ppa :)
[13:11] <Adityab> shadeslayer: not just some plasmoid, as i said, ksysgyard also crashes
[13:11] <smartboyhw> yofel, you do know my bandwidth isn't great:P
[13:11] <shadeslayer> oh right
[13:11] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: ec2 ftw
[13:11] <yofel> smartboyhw: good point :/
[13:11] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, yeah ec2 ftw!
[13:11] <shadeslayer> install KDE on quantal on EC2 , upgrade, vnc :D
[13:11] <Adityab> lol
[13:11]  * Adityab logs out
[13:13]  * smartboyhw is creating a pbuilder-dist precise to build on:P
[13:13] <smartboyhw> I mean for calligra backport
[13:14] <Riddell> just ask if you need an ec2
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Riddell, probably yes:P
[13:15] <Riddell> smartboyhw: precise high cpu?
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Riddell, good choice
[13:16] <smartboyhw> Riddell, just asking: Where do you put your calligra backport for precise into?
[13:17] <smartboyhw> s/precise/quantal
[13:17] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:19] <Riddell> smartboyhw: should be compiling away in kubuntu-ppa/backports
[13:20] <smartboyhw> OK
[13:22] <Riddell> smartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-107-22-114-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[13:22] <Riddell> smartboyhw: that's one of the really expensive ones so run poweroff when you're done
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ok
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Riddell, how does an actual ec2 price from?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: huh?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
[13:26] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, yep
[13:26] <shadeslayer> cheap computing power
[13:26] <smartboyhw> thx
[13:27] <Riddell> smartboyhw: $0.085 US an hour for the normal 1 CPU 32 bit ones, this one seems to be $0.69 an hour for 4CPU 64 bit one
[13:27] <smartboyhw> Wow
[13:27] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you can see a countier in the corner with byobu, green text on grey
[13:28] <smartboyhw> Ooh
[13:28] <Riddell> it's cheap for occational uses like this, it gets very expensive if you leave them on all the time
[13:29] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, as it turns out: I need credit cards for registration on AWS:P
[13:31] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I didn't need any changes on quantal so with luck you can compile and it'll just work
[13:32] <Riddell> waa, I can't recreate the kde-workspace failure :(
[13:32] <Riddell> I'll try a rebuild and see if it's fixed itself
[13:32] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: yes, however, the micro instance is free for a year
[13:32] <shadeslayer> they don't charge you
[13:32] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, oh
[13:32] <shadeslayer> but you still need a valid credit card
[13:33] <shadeslayer> http://aws.amazon.com/free/
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:33] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, which I don't
[13:33] <shadeslayer> hey BluesKaj
[13:33] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: heh :)
[13:33] <smartboyhw> Hiyo BluesKaj 
[13:33] <shadeslayer> ask your parents?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer, smartboyhw
[13:34] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: but seriously, you don't need to buy your own instance ;)
[13:34] <shadeslayer> as long as it's Kubuntu packaging work Kubuntu can provide instances
[13:35] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, ok
[13:35] <Riddell> I've not tried a micro one, but presumably it's not good enough to compile on
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, thought of something: I need to add my GPG key so that I can upload to ppa right?
[13:37] <Riddell> smartboyhw: yeah you can either do that but then you need to make sure to kick me off first (and it means trusting amazon which not everyone likes to do)
[13:37] <Riddell> or you can just do debsign -R
[13:37] <Riddell> which is probably more sensible
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ah
[13:38] <smartboyhw> Riddell, wait I should use small letter R right?
[13:39] <Riddell> I forget, man debsign  is your friend
[13:39] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:40] <shadeslayer> yep -r
[14:15] <smartboyhw> Riddell, hmm do I run debsign -r in my host computer or the ec2?
[14:20] <Riddell> smartboyhw: on your local machine
[14:21] <Riddell> it uses scp to download the .changes and .dsc files and signs them and uploads again
[14:24] <Adityab> shadeslayer: Ok, I trashed some plasma and friends' config files and it worked
[14:24] <Adityab> and... no crashes so far
[14:25] <Adityab> but then my firefox freezes completely from time to time
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, how come debsign -r wants to sign the key for Kubuntu Developers?
[14:27] <smartboyhw> Ah anyway found a solution
[14:31] <BluesKaj> firefox has been acting up here lately too , freezing up for no apparent reason ..can't find anything in th elogs 
[14:33] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I'm finding flash and the plugin-container start chewing up resources until it's at like 98% then the flash plugin crashes and it frees up again.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> genii-around, i removed the alernative flashplugin and went with the libflashplayer.so that used in previous kubuntus and it seems to help 
[14:35] <smartboyhw> Riddell, now how do I upload calligra from ec2 to ppa? Do I have to kick you out and add gpg key?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta reboot afte rthe big upgrade on 13.04 
[14:37] <shadeslayer> Adityab: huzzah
[14:37] <shadeslayer> Adityab: as for FF freezing, same thing with chrome
[14:37] <shadeslayer> on raring
[14:38] <Adityab> oic
[14:50] <soee> libreoffice 4.0 :)
[14:50] <smartboyhw> soee, good news
[14:50] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, maybe you can help me on the message above?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> hm?
[14:51] <soee> so in the future we might have caligra, libreoffice and ms office :)
[14:51] <shadeslayer> errr whut
[14:51] <shadeslayer> did you export the right variables
[14:51] <shadeslayer> DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME
[14:51] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, no no no I mean how to upload to PPA from ec2:P
[14:51] <smartboyhw> oh?
[14:51] <shadeslayer> yes yes
[14:51] <shadeslayer> check the most recent entry in debian/changelog
[14:52] <shadeslayer> what does it say?
[14:54] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, no there is a gpg key issue with that
[14:54] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: make sure your name and email are used in the top most entry and those should be the same as the ones in your GPG key
[14:55] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: can you give me the exact error output?
[14:55] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, it is. But don't forget, I'm using ec2
[14:55] <smartboyhw> I mean, how to import my gpg key in
[14:55] <shadeslayer> doesn't matter
[14:55] <shadeslayer> you don't need to
[14:55] <smartboyhw> !?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> just run debsign -r ubuntu@ec2-address-whatever:~/path/to/source.changes
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Checking signature on .changes
[14:55] <smartboyhw> gpg: Signature made Thu 07 Feb 2013 02:33:22 PM UTC using RSA key ID 079D2C23
[14:55] <smartboyhw> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[14:55] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I did
[14:56] <shadeslayer> and what does that result in?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> you need to run debsign from your own machine
[14:56] <shadeslayer> not the ec2
[14:56] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer,  I did
[14:56] <shadeslayer> okay, can you pastebin the error then?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> the whole thing that happens after you run debsign
[14:56] <yofel> smartboyhw: put DEBSIGN_KEYID=2EC0A9FF into ~/.devscripts with *your* key id
[14:56] <smartboyhw> yofel, ok
[14:56] <yofel> that'll force debsign  to use it
[14:57] <yofel> unless debsign -r has some other weird behaviour
[14:57] <shadeslayer> oh ... I thought he said that his name/email was fine in the changelog?
[14:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: does it actually read that when remote signing?
[14:57] <yofel> (no idea)
[14:57] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:57] <yofel> hm
[14:57] <shadeslayer> well
[14:58] <shadeslayer> I can't say for sure
[14:58] <shadeslayer> but it should
[14:58] <shadeslayer> I've never tried without my dot files :D
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Ah anyway, let me upload the -l10n package first
[14:58] <yofel> me neither as I always force my key no matter whose changelog entry it is
[14:58] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[14:58] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:58] <shadeslayer> "debsign  mimics  the  signing  aspects  (and  bugs) of dpkg-buildpackage(1). "
[14:59] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:59] <yofel> hahaha
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Ah anyway, maybe I should just prepare the package in my host....
[14:59] <smartboyhw> If raring works precise shouldn't not work
[15:00] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: it's generally advised to get comfy with working on remote servers
[15:00] <yofel> uh, precise is quite different from quantal actually
[15:00] <yofel> be careful
[15:00] <yofel> but then again
[15:00] <yofel> digikam worked fine on precise but broke in quantal
[15:00]  * shadeslayer goes back to looking at qtwebkit
[15:00] <smartboyhw> yofel, so I upload calligra-l10n to the main backports one or the beta backport PPA?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> them scripts don't work
[15:01] <smartboyhw> *one -> PPA
[15:01] <yofel> smartboyhw: main backports as it's a stable release
[15:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, thought of something: I will compile source for calligra (for precise) into my own PPA, if it works I will simply copy the package to the Kubuntu Backports PPA
[15:05] <yofel> yeah, you can do that. Use our staging PPA if you don't want to do any custom config to your PPA
[15:05] <yofel> as you'll probably have to make it depend on the backports one (at least for precise that might be a good idea with backported KDE and Qt and what not)
[15:06] <yofel> with precise's main Qt you'll need to change some setting I believe
[15:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, ah:P
[15:06] <yofel> that I_HAVE_PATCHED_QT thing or what that was
[15:07] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:09]  * shadeslayer rages at qtwebkit for being so arcane
[15:12] <smartboyhw> **** I got the version number wrong, I typed in ~ubuntu12.04.1 instead of ~ubuntu12.04.2 in calligra-l10n precise backport
[15:13]  * yofel wonders when qt5 is going to end up in experimental...
[15:13] <yofel> fabo: anything holding it up?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> "The current copyright is huge: 12637 lines. I have reviewed it but there still could be errors."
[15:14] <yofel> smartboyhw: nobody will care about that...
[15:14] <shadeslayer> from http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/q/qtwebkit/qtwebkit_2.2.1-5/changelog
[15:14] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:14] <yofel> smartboyhw: that's mostly just to match the output of backportpackage
[15:14] <yofel> even 12.04 would've been fine
[15:14] <shadeslayer> yep ^
[15:15] <shadeslayer> ok has anyone generated qtwebkit tarballs in the past?
[15:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: I wonder how the poor soul that wrote it was ^^
[15:15] <yofel> *who
[15:15] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:15] <shadeslayer> not one single person
[15:15] <shadeslayer> sou;s
[15:15] <shadeslayer> *souls
[15:15] <yofel> note that the calligra one is mostly invalid syntax ^^
[15:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I can log into them fine.
[15:19] <jussi> Hrm, as anyone looked into packaging the KDE version of http://sflphone.org/ for our repos? (there is a PPA it seems, but only the gnome version in the repos)
[15:20] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:58] <Riddell> smartboyhw: hi, did you solve it?
[15:58] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm logged in I just can't create a new raring chroot
[15:58] <ScottK> OK.
[15:59] <ScottK> Let me see.
[16:00] <ScottK> Riddell: What happens if you copy over home/kitterma/pbuilder/raring-base.tgz into your directory and then do pbuilder update?
[16:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell, solve what?
[16:01] <Riddell> smartboyhw: uploading to PPA?
[16:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell,  only -l10n
[16:01] <smartboyhw> using ec2 is a bit of difficulty when uploading
[16:02] <Riddell> smartboyhw: what's the issue?
[16:02] <smartboyhw> Riddell, GPG keys
[16:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you didn't work debsign -r ?
[16:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you didn't work out debsign -r ?
[16:04] <smartboyhw> Riddell, not that part
[16:04] <smartboyhw> The uploading
[16:04] <smartboyhw> Riddell, anyway will try it tmr, got more time.
[16:04] <smartboyhw> I am starting my holidays!!!!
[16:05] <Riddell> ScottK: this is probably showing my limited use of pbuilder but I'm doing something wrong http://paste.kde.org/666914/
[16:08] <Riddell> hmm, that guy gives up too easily :(
[16:14] <ScottK> Riddell: I generally use pbuilder-dist, so pbuilder-dist raring update
[16:14] <ScottK> See if that works.
[16:17] <Riddell> mm that's doing something
[17:03] <Riddell> skaet: what's that you say?  you put up a placeholder for Alpha2?
[17:03] <Riddell> you're a bit worried if there are people to test alpha2 and 12.04.2?
[17:04] <skaet> Riddell,  for the release notes;   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/Alpha2/Kubuntu
[17:05] <skaet> but yes,  am a bit worried about running the alpha 2 in parallel wiht 12.04.2 from a test perspective
[17:05] <skaet> rather testing perspective.
[17:05] <Riddell> good news is we have some new ninjas recently, would be good to get them into testing mode
[17:06] <skaet> excellent!  :)
[17:06] <skaet> will some focus on 12.04.2 and others on 13.04 alpha 2?
[17:07] <Riddell> that seems one way to do it
[17:07] <skaet> other ideas are welcome :)
[17:08] <Riddell> I think we'll just have to see what fits best with the time people can give, I'll put out a call that we have a big testing week coming up
[17:08] <Riddell> skaet: one issue is we don't have any UEFI stuff on our images
[17:08] <Riddell> I'd like to get a laptop with UEFI on to test but I don't know how to get one with UEFI
[17:09] <Riddell> it doesn't seem to be an advertised feature, can't think why
[17:10] <skaet> Riddell,  wondering if its worth pinging balloons to see if he has some volunteers with the right hardware willing to help?
[17:10] <Riddell> yeah that's an idea
[17:12] <Riddell> meh I uploaded calligra backport to raring instead of quantal, head fail
[17:14]  * Riddell out to LUG
[20:42] <soee> any of you niticed problems and error messages with keyring after upgrate to 4.10 ?
[20:45] <jessie> What kind of error messages?
[20:47] <soee> when trying to clone some git repos, or using smartgit 
[20:47] <soee> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/soee/keyring-P0HEam/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[20:47] <soee> there was no such problem before upgrade
[20:52] <genii-around> soee: Not noticing that. I did a clone on the quassel repo just earlier.
[20:52] <PaulW2U> soee: that's bug  #932177
[20:56] <jessie> Oh, nice. I have experienced that at times too.
[20:56] <jessie> Though not with git.
[21:03] <soee> PaulW2U, ok thank you
[21:15] <rdieter> soee, jessie : let me save you some trouble, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665961
[21:15] <rdieter> there's an upstreamed patch there
[22:15] <Quintasan> FOR CHRISTS SAKE
[22:15] <Quintasan> can anyone tell me how the hell do I share a damn freaking printer over a network?
[22:59] <amichair> howdy, can anyone tell what's up with these unmet kde 4.10 dependencies? http://pastebin.com/nTa11ppQ
[23:13] <yofel> amichair: that happens when running what?
[23:13] <amichair> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (on 12.10)
[23:14] <amichair> when I try the -f, I get what I think is bug #1100622
[23:15] <yofel> ah yeah, overwrite errors would cause broken dependencies
[23:15] <amichair> hmm... versions different than the bug, but otherwise look similar
[23:16] <amichair> "trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5ubuntu2"
[23:18] <ScottK> amichair: You should remove kdelibs4c2a.  KDE3 is way obsolete.  We should also breaks/replaces kdelibs4c2a, but you don't want that anymore.
[23:18] <yofel> hm, that file has been there since 4.9.95 though. I guess nobody noticed
[23:18] <yofel> ScottK: I'll do it
[23:19] <yofel> *SIGH*
[23:19] <yofel> whoever uploaded kde to raring didn't push the release
[23:19] <yofel> that's *NOT* automatic
[23:19] <amichair> I don't know how it got there, though this system has been on upgrades for several years
[23:20] <amichair> maybe ancient leftover
[23:20] <yofel> ancient leftover
[23:20] <yofel> it's not like anything would remove it usually
[23:20] <amichair> then that's a bug in the upgrade path :-)
[23:21] <yofel> hard to say. It should be marked obsolete and proposed for cleanup usually
[23:22] <amichair> ok, removed it, now it's amarok-engine-xine, guarddog and ksensors showing errors coz they need it
[23:23] <amichair> do they have modern replacements?
[23:24] <yofel> xine is unsupported, but I don't know about the rest
[23:25] <amichair> so maybe being left behind is an amarok upgrade bug. I'll remove that one.
[23:25] <yofel> Riddell: as you signed the packages I guess you ran the upload script. Could you please push the bzr commits and tags?
[23:25] <Riddell> yofel: what what?
[23:25] <yofel> Riddell: kde branches are all UNRELEASED
[23:26] <Riddell> oh tsk yeah I forgot that
[23:32] <amichair> hmmm... I try removing amarok-engine-xine or ksensors, but they don't get removed
[23:36] <yofel> Riddell: thanks 
[23:38] <Riddell> pushed!
[23:38] <amichair> does kde have a firewall gui app?
[23:39] <Riddell> amichair: kubuntu doesn't generally need one
[23:40] <yofel> there was one in the wild I believe, but nothing we have packaged
[23:40] <yofel> use gufw
[23:42] <amichair> why would kubuntu not need a firewall? sometimes ports get open, and you don't want them exposed to outsiders...
[23:44] <amichair> so... I'm trying to remove kdelibs4c2a and those that depend on it (amarok-engine-xine guarddog ksensors), but they don't get removed...
[23:45] <yofel> try 'sudo dpkg -r --force-depends kdelibs4c2a', then apt-get install -f
[23:49] <amichair> yofel: great, that seems to have unclogged it - thanks!