[00:18] bug 1117365 [00:18] bug 1117365 in Kubuntu PPA "plasma-desktop 4.10 crashes immediately on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1117365 [00:20] 0.0 [00:20] no backtrace [00:20] also I think a user installed plasmoid is broken [00:20] triggering a bug in plasma === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [01:46] Riddell: didn't we fix bug 1086840 like ages ago? [01:46] bug 1086840 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Raring) "Missing bookmarks.xml error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086840 [04:55] apachelogger: We did, but then it came back. [05:04] Riddell: ok === Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine [05:23] ::workspace-bugs:: [1077196] klipper does not save contents from closed windows @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077196 (by ill) === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [06:55] apachelogger: ack [07:02] apachelogger: I think we should put that in the experimental PPA for all Kubuntu Devs to try out [07:03] btw digikam was tagged [07:07] apachelogger: trololol [07:07] apachelogger: no revisions pushed to bzf [07:07] *bzr [07:09] afiestas: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/user-manager/scratch-master/view/head:/src/lib/accountmodel.cpp#L34 , synchronous dbus calls? === Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine [08:40] * popey tickles Riddell with bug 1117895 [08:40] bug 1117895 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "Please sync Kdenlive 0.9.4-1 (universe) from Debian Experimental" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1117895 [08:51] popey: mmm ... requires a test build on armhf [09:04] hello everyone [09:05] shadeslayer: good evening [09:05] hi [09:16] shadeslayer: why does it require a test build on arm specifically? [09:19] apachelogger: hmm I've a feeling I might have done a workaround for bug 1086840 rather than a fix [09:19] bug 1086840 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Raring) "Missing bookmarks.xml error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086840 [09:30] Riddell: because cmake doesn't find opengles [09:30] and there's a patch for that [09:31] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/666638/ [09:40] Riddell: so .. can't be sync'd , needs merging :) [09:42] ☹ [09:43] should be easy enough [09:44] one should add a notifcation helper hook in kdenlive that installs the libav extra plugins [09:44] it's kinda useless without most of the encoders === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:45] good morning btw. :) [09:46] hey yofel :) [09:49] Riddell: plasma-mobile is still stuck in proposed [09:49] any ideas why? === emma is now known as em [09:54] shadeslayer: nope but we hvae load of stuff stuck in proposed today [09:54] well [09:54] plasma-mobile was uploaded quite some time ago [09:54] and I thought it was stuck because of declarative-plasmoids [09:54] but since that's been uploaded .... [09:55] shadeslayer: a problem in kubuntu-active which depends on language-selector-kde which no longer exists [09:55] I fixed that [09:55] but there's another issue with kubuntu-meta on powerpc [09:56] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/raring_probs.html [09:56] nothing there too [09:57] out of date on powerpc: kubuntu-active, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-full (from 1.267) [09:57] really, there's your problem [09:58] oh ... uh ... okay [09:58] where did you find that? [09:58] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [09:59] ahh [09:59] you can follow the logic a bit through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [09:59] I was looking at the wrong file [10:12] ug "Start in 20 hours" powerpc needs to be dropped [10:16] heh, it's community supported [10:16] for them old Macbook Pro's [10:18] but with the new -proposed system it affects everyone [10:41] Riddell: hooray for workarounds :P [10:41] shadeslayer: oh, I thought I had pushed [10:42] apachelogger: nope [10:42] shadeslayer: but yeah, I also was expecting it to go into experimental [10:42] apachelogger: yeah makes sense imho [10:42] while you're pushing, why not setup the recipe as well [10:42] so I can continue looking at GObject introspection and QMetaObject [10:43] hm [10:43] can't push [10:43] don't have my key with me [10:44] push it later on this evening then, I don't think there's a huge rush at the moment [10:44] right now checking if perhaps it got autosynced to laptop [10:44] mm okay [10:46] not synced [10:46] will have to wait [10:53] uhm i reading some posts and see that arch servers were down due to high interest in kde upgrades :) [10:53] also kde had some problems ? :> [10:54] Riddell: FYI going to lunch but Didier noted (L)GPL requires LICENSE files, so I submitted https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,47111 to upstream. the current tarball would be fine with just repackaged and added with those. [10:54] qtchooser tarball, that is [10:55] soee: heh :) [10:56] too bad launchpad doesn't provide proper statistics [10:56] it does provide *some* statistics [10:59] Mirv: well spotted [11:34] shadeslayer: it does provide the stats you usually want to know [11:34] the hard part is making them human readable :( [11:34] 2.4G .cache/telepathy/avatars [11:34] :( [11:35] how big is your cache [11:35] here on this laptop [11:35] 1.2M /home/yofel/.cache/telepathy/ [11:35] heh [11:35] lucky you [11:36] ~/.launchpadlib/ is also fun sometimes [11:36] at least if you use our scripts often [11:40] heh [11:55] yofel: Riddell https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47647 < we might want to keep track of that [11:55] Freedesktop bug 47647 in tp-qt "Tp-qt fails to remove temp avatar file" [Normal,New] [11:55] just how much does it cache there to reach 2.4G ? [11:56] alot [11:56] I think I saw 10-15 dupes of each avatar [11:56] *atleast* [11:56] but dolphin got super slow [11:58] you probably don't have enough accounts added :P [11:58] I have 4 of them [11:59] yet another unreproducable support request - bug 1118244 [11:59] bug 1118244 in Kubuntu PPA "add new plasma widget dialog is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1118244 [11:59] I have 450MB in there, nasty [12:05] jr@kubuntu-armhf00:~$ sudo chroot raring/ [12:05] FATAL: kernel too old [12:06] ScottK: your arm machines are fatal [12:06] did someone backport calligra? [12:07] yofel: I've got it compiling here [12:07] ok [12:07] actually just done, compiles without issues [12:07] I'll put it into backports ppa [12:07] for quantal [12:23] Riddell: chroot? why not just do DIST=raring pbuilder --login ? [12:24] I'm curious whether that will work [12:25] hum http://paste.kde.org/666788/ it's using precise [12:26] needs -E [12:26] more like W: /home/jr/.pbuilderrc does not exist [12:26] not sure what the default one looks like [12:26] oh .. uhh [12:27] yofel: I see you have a .pbuilderrc, did you make that yourself or is there some automated way to do it? [12:28] uh... that was originally copied from somewhere else and then self extended [12:28] hm, /etc/pbuilderrc is really plain [12:29] http://paste.kde.org/666806/ [12:29] wfm [12:30] well, you probably have a pbuilderrc [12:30] yep [12:33] bah kde-workspace fail [12:34] /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput2.h:173:22: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef unsigned int BarrierEventID' [12:35] hmm, look fiddly [12:42] I'm getting reports that plasma crashes on startup on Quantal [12:48] do not scare me :) i just upgraded my work machine :) [12:49] well ... idk [12:50] I've asked for a backtrace [12:50] yofel: http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html [12:55] shadeslayer: fun read, thanks :D [12:56] it was fun how he debugged it :D [12:59] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/666830/ [13:01] p.k.o froze my brwoser [13:01] *browser [13:01] heh [13:02] http://i.imgur.com/TXmQLNV.png [13:02] I can scroll in the tiny area where the text is visible [13:02] kde crashes froze some of my ability to work [13:02] note to self: never do major upgrades when working [13:02] :( === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [13:02] Adityab: did you try out any of the RC's? [13:03] shadeslayer: I've also noticed chromium and firefox freezing, so it's not just rekonq which breaks [13:03] :P [13:03] oh fun [13:03] I leave the page open and switch to another tab and it goes bonkers [13:04] shadeslayer: no [13:04] hm [13:04] the new menu stuff seems to be breaking things for you [13:05] maybe i should simply compile all my kde like in the old days, that way i can easily rollback :S [13:05] Riddell, ping [13:05] hi smartboyhw [13:05] smartboyhw: I saw calligra was compiling on amd64 in raring [13:05] and I uploaded it to backports ppa for quantal [13:06] Riddell, compiled and succeeded:) [13:06] yay [13:06] However powerpc is still building:P [13:06] grr, powerpc is really annoying me [13:06] it's holding back the whole of 4.10 [13:06] * yofel passes Riddell a cup of coffee [13:06] well that and kde-workspace [13:06] Riddell, yeah [13:07] Riddell, now.... Any packaging to play?:P [13:07] smartboyhw: you could backport calligra to precise [13:07] Adityab: you can still rollback btw [13:07] Riddell, k [13:07] I've no interest in backporting to precise but it seems to be fashionable [13:07] fashionable (LOL) [13:07] smartboyhw: you could also test 4.10 on quantal and see if you get the crash Adityab is having [13:08] Riddell, er sorry I am on Raring:P [13:08] shadeslayer: that article reminds me a bit of me debugging kile back then. Not as weird an issue, but fun too [13:08] shadeslayer: but on topic, I still blame my t510's hard freezes on ASPM. But turning it off simply isn't an option :/ [13:08] Riddell: Adityab is using Qt5 from the edgers PPA [13:08] yofel: I had a cup of coffee already, the strong stuff, maybe that's the problem :) [13:09] heh [13:09] this one https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta1 [13:09] shadeslayer: umm [13:09] I'm not exactly sure if that would cause issues [13:09] beta1 [13:09] it *shouldn't* [13:09] shadeslayer: that /shouldn't/ matter [13:10] right [13:10] but it has a bad smell about it indeed [13:10] I added that ppa a long long time ago... [13:10] Adityab: would it be possible to purge that PPA? [13:10] and can you check if you can reproduce the crash with a new user? [13:10] smartboyhw: that's what VM's are for ;) [13:10] so that we can confirm it's not some plasmoid that's causing the crash [13:10] yeah [13:10] especially since the crash is in QtScript, maybe some runtime stuff going on there [13:11] * Adityab tries both [13:11] try without removing the Qt5 ppa :) [13:11] shadeslayer: not just some plasmoid, as i said, ksysgyard also crashes [13:11] yofel, you do know my bandwidth isn't great:P [13:11] oh right [13:11] smartboyhw: ec2 ftw [13:11] smartboyhw: good point :/ [13:11] shadeslayer, yeah ec2 ftw! [13:11] install KDE on quantal on EC2 , upgrade, vnc :D [13:11] lol [13:11] * Adityab logs out [13:13] * smartboyhw is creating a pbuilder-dist precise to build on:P [13:13] I mean for calligra backport [13:14] just ask if you need an ec2 [13:15] Riddell, probably yes:P [13:15] smartboyhw: precise high cpu? [13:15] Riddell, good choice [13:16] Riddell, just asking: Where do you put your calligra backport for precise into? [13:17] s/precise/quantal [13:17] LOL [13:19] smartboyhw: should be compiling away in kubuntu-ppa/backports [13:20] OK [13:22] smartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-107-22-114-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com [13:22] smartboyhw: that's one of the really expensive ones so run poweroff when you're done [13:22] Riddell, ok [13:25] Riddell, how does an actual ec2 price from? [13:26] smartboyhw: huh? [13:26] smartboyhw: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ [13:26] shadeslayer, yep [13:26] cheap computing power [13:26] thx [13:27] smartboyhw: $0.085 US an hour for the normal 1 CPU 32 bit ones, this one seems to be $0.69 an hour for 4CPU 64 bit one [13:27] Wow [13:27] smartboyhw: you can see a countier in the corner with byobu, green text on grey [13:28] Ooh [13:28] it's cheap for occational uses like this, it gets very expensive if you leave them on all the time [13:29] shadeslayer, as it turns out: I need credit cards for registration on AWS:P [13:31] smartboyhw: I didn't need any changes on quantal so with luck you can compile and it'll just work [13:32] waa, I can't recreate the kde-workspace failure :( [13:32] I'll try a rebuild and see if it's fixed itself [13:32] smartboyhw: yes, however, the micro instance is free for a year [13:32] they don't charge you [13:32] shadeslayer, oh [13:32] but you still need a valid credit card [13:33] http://aws.amazon.com/free/ [13:33] Hi all [13:33] shadeslayer, which I don't [13:33] hey BluesKaj [13:33] smartboyhw: heh :) [13:33] Hiyo BluesKaj [13:33] ask your parents? [13:34] hi shadeslayer, smartboyhw [13:34] smartboyhw: but seriously, you don't need to buy your own instance ;) [13:34] as long as it's Kubuntu packaging work Kubuntu can provide instances [13:35] shadeslayer, ok [13:35] I've not tried a micro one, but presumably it's not good enough to compile on [13:37] Riddell, thought of something: I need to add my GPG key so that I can upload to ppa right? [13:37] smartboyhw: yeah you can either do that but then you need to make sure to kick me off first (and it means trusting amazon which not everyone likes to do) [13:37] or you can just do debsign -R [13:37] which is probably more sensible [13:37] Riddell, ah [13:38] Riddell, wait I should use small letter R right? [13:39] I forget, man debsign is your friend [13:39] lol [13:40] yep -r === dantti|2 is now known as dantti_laptop === Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine [14:15] Riddell, hmm do I run debsign -r in my host computer or the ec2? [14:20] smartboyhw: on your local machine [14:21] it uses scp to download the .changes and .dsc files and signs them and uploads again [14:24] shadeslayer: Ok, I trashed some plasma and friends' config files and it worked [14:24] and... no crashes so far [14:25] but then my firefox freezes completely from time to time [14:26] Riddell, how come debsign -r wants to sign the key for Kubuntu Developers? [14:27] Ah anyway found a solution [14:31] firefox has been acting up here lately too , freezing up for no apparent reason ..can't find anything in th elogs [14:33] BluesKaj: I'm finding flash and the plugin-container start chewing up resources until it's at like 98% then the flash plugin crashes and it frees up again. [14:34] genii-around, i removed the alernative flashplugin and went with the libflashplayer.so that used in previous kubuntus and it seems to help [14:35] Riddell, now how do I upload calligra from ec2 to ppa? Do I have to kick you out and add gpg key? [14:36] ok , gotta reboot afte rthe big upgrade on 13.04 [14:37] Adityab: huzzah [14:37] Adityab: as for FF freezing, same thing with chrome [14:37] on raring [14:38] oic [14:50] libreoffice 4.0 :) [14:50] soee, good news [14:50] shadeslayer, maybe you can help me on the message above? [14:50] hm? [14:51] so in the future we might have caligra, libreoffice and ms office :) [14:51] errr whut [14:51] did you export the right variables [14:51] DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME [14:51] shadeslayer, no no no I mean how to upload to PPA from ec2:P [14:51] oh? [14:51] yes yes [14:51] check the most recent entry in debian/changelog [14:52] what does it say? === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [14:54] shadeslayer, no there is a gpg key issue with that [14:54] smartboyhw: make sure your name and email are used in the top most entry and those should be the same as the ones in your GPG key [14:55] smartboyhw: can you give me the exact error output? [14:55] shadeslayer, it is. But don't forget, I'm using ec2 [14:55] I mean, how to import my gpg key in [14:55] doesn't matter [14:55] you don't need to [14:55] !? [14:55] just run debsign -r ubuntu@ec2-address-whatever:~/path/to/source.changes [14:55] Checking signature on .changes [14:55] gpg: Signature made Thu 07 Feb 2013 02:33:22 PM UTC using RSA key ID 079D2C23 [14:55] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [14:55] shadeslayer, I did [14:56] and what does that result in? [14:56] you need to run debsign from your own machine [14:56] not the ec2 [14:56] shadeslayer, I did [14:56] okay, can you pastebin the error then? [14:56] the whole thing that happens after you run debsign [14:56] smartboyhw: put DEBSIGN_KEYID=2EC0A9FF into ~/.devscripts with *your* key id [14:56] yofel, ok [14:56] that'll force debsign to use it [14:57] unless debsign -r has some other weird behaviour [14:57] oh ... I thought he said that his name/email was fine in the changelog? [14:57] shadeslayer: does it actually read that when remote signing? [14:57] (no idea) [14:57] yes [14:57] hm [14:57] well [14:58] I can't say for sure [14:58] but it should [14:58] I've never tried without my dot files :D [14:58] Ah anyway, let me upload the -l10n package first [14:58] me neither as I always force my key no matter whose changelog entry it is [14:58] *nod* [14:58] hehe [14:58] "debsign mimics the signing aspects (and bugs) of dpkg-buildpackage(1). " [14:59] lol === jono is now known as Guest81910 [14:59] hahaha [14:59] Ah anyway, maybe I should just prepare the package in my host.... [14:59] If raring works precise shouldn't not work [15:00] smartboyhw: it's generally advised to get comfy with working on remote servers [15:00] uh, precise is quite different from quantal actually [15:00] be careful [15:00] but then again [15:00] digikam worked fine on precise but broke in quantal [15:00] * shadeslayer goes back to looking at qtwebkit === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:00] yofel, so I upload calligra-l10n to the main backports one or the beta backport PPA? [15:01] them scripts don't work [15:01] *one -> PPA [15:01] smartboyhw: main backports as it's a stable release [15:04] yofel, thought of something: I will compile source for calligra (for precise) into my own PPA, if it works I will simply copy the package to the Kubuntu Backports PPA [15:05] yeah, you can do that. Use our staging PPA if you don't want to do any custom config to your PPA [15:05] as you'll probably have to make it depend on the backports one (at least for precise that might be a good idea with backported KDE and Qt and what not) [15:06] with precise's main Qt you'll need to change some setting I believe [15:06] yofel, ah:P [15:06] that I_HAVE_PATCHED_QT thing or what that was [15:07] LOL [15:09] * shadeslayer rages at qtwebkit for being so arcane [15:12] **** I got the version number wrong, I typed in ~ubuntu12.04.1 instead of ~ubuntu12.04.2 in calligra-l10n precise backport [15:13] * yofel wonders when qt5 is going to end up in experimental... [15:13] fabo: anything holding it up? [15:14] "The current copyright is huge: 12637 lines. I have reviewed it but there still could be errors." [15:14] smartboyhw: nobody will care about that... [15:14] from http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/q/qtwebkit/qtwebkit_2.2.1-5/changelog [15:14] lol [15:14] smartboyhw: that's mostly just to match the output of backportpackage [15:14] even 12.04 would've been fine [15:14] yep ^ [15:15] ok has anyone generated qtwebkit tarballs in the past? [15:15] shadeslayer: I wonder how the poor soul that wrote it was ^^ [15:15] *who [15:15] :D [15:15] not one single person [15:15] sou;s [15:15] *souls [15:15] note that the calligra one is mostly invalid syntax ^^ [15:15] Riddell: I can log into them fine. [15:19] Hrm, as anyone looked into packaging the KDE version of http://sflphone.org/ for our repos? (there is a PPA it seems, but only the gnome version in the repos) [15:20] lol [15:58] smartboyhw: hi, did you solve it? [15:58] ScottK: I'm logged in I just can't create a new raring chroot [15:58] OK. [15:59] Let me see. [16:00] Riddell: What happens if you copy over home/kitterma/pbuilder/raring-base.tgz into your directory and then do pbuilder update? [16:01] Riddell, solve what? [16:01] smartboyhw: uploading to PPA? [16:01] Riddell, only -l10n [16:01] using ec2 is a bit of difficulty when uploading [16:02] smartboyhw: what's the issue? [16:02] Riddell, GPG keys [16:03] smartboyhw: you didn't work debsign -r ? [16:03] smartboyhw: you didn't work out debsign -r ? [16:04] Riddell, not that part [16:04] The uploading [16:04] Riddell, anyway will try it tmr, got more time. [16:04] I am starting my holidays!!!! [16:05] ScottK: this is probably showing my limited use of pbuilder but I'm doing something wrong http://paste.kde.org/666914/ [16:08] hmm, that guy gives up too easily :( === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [16:14] Riddell: I generally use pbuilder-dist, so pbuilder-dist raring update [16:14] See if that works. [16:17] mm that's doing something === jessie_ is now known as jessie === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [17:03] skaet: what's that you say? you put up a placeholder for Alpha2? [17:03] you're a bit worried if there are people to test alpha2 and 12.04.2? [17:04] Riddell, for the release notes; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/Alpha2/Kubuntu [17:05] but yes, am a bit worried about running the alpha 2 in parallel wiht 12.04.2 from a test perspective [17:05] rather testing perspective. [17:05] good news is we have some new ninjas recently, would be good to get them into testing mode [17:06] excellent! :) [17:06] will some focus on 12.04.2 and others on 13.04 alpha 2? [17:07] that seems one way to do it [17:07] other ideas are welcome :) [17:08] I think we'll just have to see what fits best with the time people can give, I'll put out a call that we have a big testing week coming up [17:08] skaet: one issue is we don't have any UEFI stuff on our images [17:08]