[01:47] <mr0wl> hey kscreenlocker isn't working after the KDE 4.10 updates, is there any way to fix it?
[02:04] <mr0wl> apparently there's a bug reported at KDE about this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311050
[02:04] <mr0wl> no resolution yet
[02:37] <markd______> I'm here to vent..  anybody want to listen???  I'm in dependency hell because of kdelibs5-plugins and kdelibs4c2a conflicting...  can someone help me??
[02:37] <markd______> sorry, I know that attitude will not get my far..  but it's been a long day
[02:39] <markd______> here's my errors:  http://pastebin.com/AzvqMdpL
[02:58] <Walzmyn> I updated to KDE 4.10 and rebooted, now my system is crashing before the login
[03:00] <markd______> at the login screen, go to command line by pressing <ctrl + Alt> + F1 or F2
[03:01] <markd______> then to temporarily get you up, you can rename the .kde4 folder to .kde4_old
[03:01] <markd______> then go back to login by <ctrl + alt> + F7
[03:02] <markd______> you will loose all your old settings - looks and themes
[03:02] <markd______> but that's why I'm telling you to do a rename..
[03:03] <markd______> Walzmyn: ?
[03:03] <Walzmyn> markd______: can't even get to login
[03:03] <markd______> do you get a hard crash?
[03:04] <markd______> does ctrl alt f7 do anything?
[03:04] <markd______> *f2
[03:05] <markd______> ok, for some reason it's now <ctrl + alt> + F8 to get back to KDE
[03:06] <Walzmyn> screw it. I'm downloading the iso on my laptop, i'll just reload it
[03:07] <Walzmyn> Long Term Support = stable my ass
[03:07] <markd______> booting with a boot cd, mounting the drive and then doing it from there could help, but it seems like it's more borked than that just KDE
[03:07] <markd______> I'm having the same issues..
[03:07] <markd______> also pissed - actually diff issues..  I'm in dependencies hell
[03:09] <markd______> I think I'll load my ubuntu 12.10 then install kde from there..
[05:17] <ultimate> hi everyone
[05:17] <ultimate> I'm in my company
[05:18] <ultimate> yesterday, IT guy has installed sonic firewall on my windows pc
[05:18] <ultimate> and all my activities have been followed
[05:19] <ultimate> I want to ask you guys if I run a Ubuntu Live Session,can IT guy trace my activities?
[06:04] <bjrohan> I did an upgrade today for KDE 4.10, as well as Chromium and Chrome.  Now the fonts in all browsers, including firefox have changed, the tabs, and the text in the browser like facebook feed. I changed all in Chrome settings, nothing changed. I changed in System Settings, Application Appearance, no changes there reflected in the browsers, any suggestions?
[07:04] <pxc> has anyone here had any luck with the Amarok Nepomuk Collection feature? I'd like to use it but I can't get Nepomuk (the new 4.10 version) to scan all of my music. It seems to neglect nearly all of it
[08:25] <ignerious> how to change new screen locker background??
[09:04] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[09:14] <jackyalcine> wooot! KDE 4.10
[09:16] <gnomefreak> hi phoenix_firebrd
[09:16] <phoenix_firebrd> gnomefreak: hi
[09:37] <mr0wl> what are some good transcoding software available?
[09:44] <phoenix_firebrd> mr0wl: try mobile multimefia converter
[09:45] <phoenix_firebrd> mr0wl: try mobile multimedia converter
[09:49] <mr0wl> phoenix_firebrd: thanks, do you know of any Qt apps?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> what package do i use policy to figure out what versen of kde
[09:54]  * gnomefreak smoke
[09:56] <yofel> gnomefreak: look at the plasma-desktop package for example, or run 'kde4config --version' in konsole
[09:59] <OerHeks> or kde4-config --version
[10:10] <gnomefreak> yofel: do i neede to e in kde to run the command?
[10:11] <yofel> not really, only kdelibs has to be installed
[10:11] <gnomefreak> its not doinf here excpe some crap
[10:11] <gnomefreak> here is the output gnomefreak@Development:~$ kde4config --version
[10:11] <gnomefreak> No command 'kde4config' found, did you mean: Command 'kde4-config' from package 'kdelibs-bin' (main)
[10:12] <gnomefreak> my damn coffee burnt me
[11:06] <ignerious> how to change new screen locker background??
[11:09] <bajhuj> anyalse from BG?
[11:11] <ignerious> how to change new screen locker background??
[11:11] <ignerious> how to change new screen locker background??
[11:26] <kosmonaut_> i just wanted to update to KDE4.10 but I get this here: "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/nadia/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found". Is this just true for me?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> nadia?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> dafuq?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> kosmonaut_: are you using mint or sth?
[12:20] <kosmonaut_> shadeslayer: yes ub deed mint
[12:20] <kosmonaut_> shadeslayer: aaah!
[12:20] <kosmonaut_> shadeslayer: now I understand
[12:20] <kosmonaut_> i guess
[12:20] <shadeslayer> kosmonaut_: in which case, a) Wrong channel and b) wrong release name
[12:21] <shadeslayer> you probably want to switch out nadia for quantal/precise
[12:21] <shadeslayer> ( whatever nadia is based on, I don't know )
[12:55] <hzengin> hi folks
[12:58] <hzengin> i installed lastest kubuntu and i am having trouble with my usb wireless dongle. I solved driver issues but there is still a problem. With same computer and same dongle i can connect my home network via wi-fi under windows 8 and signal strength is very good but in kubuntu signal strength is really bad
[12:59] <hzengin> is there any one has an idea?
[13:16] <Peace-> hzengin: driver issue i guess
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:07] <artao> hello
[14:07] <artao> can anyone explain to my WHY Krita 2.6 isn't available EVEN IN the backports PPA ???
[14:07] <artao> WTF!!! :\
[14:08] <artao> get on the fricken ball here Kubuntu. Seriously.
[14:09] <lordievader> artao: Become package maintainer and do the work yourself if this is such a big issue to you.
[14:09] <artao> oh please! what a ridiculous statement
[14:10] <artao> what are the CURRENT package maintainers for then?
[14:10] <artao> "hey user, do it yourself" is no answer
[14:10] <artao> esp. for a distro that's allegedly as simple to use for end-users and Kubuntu is supposed to be
[14:10] <lordievader> artao: My point is the maintainers are busy enough.
[14:11] <tsimpson> because 2.6 was released 2 days ago...
[14:11] <artao> i mean, Krita in the backports repo isn't even past 2.5.2 yet!!! that's ridiculous
[14:11] <artao> maintainers are busy not doing their job?
[14:11] <tsimpson> they are busy packaging KDE
[14:12] <tsimpson> which is what they VOLUNTEER to do
[14:12] <artao> sure .. new KDE was just released ... and THAT'S in there .. of coure .. yet the backports PPA still isn't beyond krita 2.5.2 ... :\
[14:12] <tsimpson> 2.5.94 is in raring
[14:13] <tsimpson> if you want to volunteer to backport and test on it on quantal, go ahead
[14:13] <artao> i'm and end-user, not a maintainer
[14:13] <tsimpson> so?
[14:13] <james147> artao: Almost all the kubuntu packages are volunteers. if you don't like their work then volunteer your self and improve things, there is no point in complaining about them as it just makes them less likley to do what you want. Given they are giving up their own free time to do this.
[14:13] <artao> what you're saying would bake sense if i were running debian or arch
[14:13] <artao> kubuntu is supposed to be end-user-friendly
[14:14] <artao> oh BS!
[14:14] <tsimpson> they can't possibly do everything, that's a completely unreasonable expectation
[14:14] <james147> artao: and it is, user-friendly dose not mean completly up to date to the last second
[14:14] <artao> if the volunteers are that petty they shouldn't be doint it eithr
[14:14] <artao> 2.5.2 is hardly up to the 'last second' even ... that's several months old
[14:15] <tsimpson> as I said, 2.5.94 is in raring
[14:15] <artao> from what I'm reading, it's a known "problem" that Kubuntu backports has not been maintaining an up-to-date krita for some unknown reason
[14:15] <artao> WTF is "raring" ??
[14:16] <BluesKaj> artao, what's the big deal about having the newest krita , does it do something that earlier versions don't do ?
[14:16] <artao> yes. several things
[14:16] <artao> in particular OpenColorIO
[14:16] <tsimpson> raring is the next release, 13.04
[14:16] <artao> also major OpenGL speedups
[14:16] <lordievader> artao: You can allways compile from source.
[14:17] <artao> then i might as well be running arch
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !raring | artao
[14:17] <artao> which, frankly, is beyond my ken
[14:17] <tsimpson> it's up to you, but the volunteers that make Kubuntu possible can't make everyone happy all the time
[14:17] <tsimpson> that's just a fact of life
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[14:18] <tsimpson> they are only a limited number of people, giving a limited amount of their time to support something they care about
[14:18] <artao> backports hasn't been updating krita for awhile apparently
[14:18] <artao> as in several months at least
[14:18] <artao> no one seems to know why
[14:19] <tsimpson> to have a package in backports requires work in backporting the package and testing, that requires man-power which is in limited suply
[14:22] <mr0wl> does anyone know if avconv support multi-cpu to encode videos?
[14:22] <artao> and krita, being one of THE major painting apps under linux, just isn't important enuf to keep up to date?
[14:22] <artao> as I said .. 2.5.2 is several months old
[14:22] <Torch> artao: i wonder what you're trying to achieve with this discussion
[14:22] <artao> pushing buttons
[14:22] <artao> expressing user-discontent
[14:22] <Torch> artao: we heard you
[14:23] <artao> and don't care .. that much is clear
[14:23] <Torch> artao: i'm not a kubuntu packager. if i was, your little speech here would probably lead to my further frustration
[14:23] <james147> artao: not when you are being hostile like this....
[14:23] <artao> good thing your not then
[14:24] <artao> and stop making excuses for them
[14:24] <artao> it's exceedingly frustrating is all, and it's not the first time
[14:24] <artao> backports is SUPPOSED to be rather "bleeding edge" .. that's WHY i enabled it
[14:24] <Torch> artao: pay someone to package krita if it's so important to you. or wait until someone does it for free.
[14:24] <tsimpson> artao: you've made your point now. unless you want to help, there's no point in continuing
[14:25] <FlameReaper-PC> Actually, Backports isn't.
[14:25] <artao> krita USED to be kept up to date regularly .. now it's not?
[14:25] <Torch> artao: that's what i understood so far from what you say.
[14:25] <FlameReaper-PC> It's not supposed to be a bleeding edge PPA.
[14:26] <artao> lokay, not bleeding maybe but open wound at least
[14:26] <FlameReaper-PC> And no, Krita isn't. At least when its parent package, calligra is concerned.
[14:26] <artao> krita has been seperated from calligra for some time
[14:26] <tsimpson> no, it's part of the same source package
[14:26] <artao> and i was under the ijmpression anyhow that calligra is a base KDE suite
[14:26] <FlameReaper-PC> Which it is.
[14:27] <artao> so it's curious why it's not up to date
[14:27] <FlameReaper-PC> Krita has been always part of Calligra.
[14:27] <FlameReaper-PC> It's just that you are able to install it separately.
[14:27] <artao> exactly
[14:27] <FlameReaper-PC> And for the record, Calligra in the backports are up to version 2.5.4
[14:28] <artao> okay apologists
[14:28] <artao> l8r then
[14:28] <FlameReaper-PC> ... Well, I had the same frustration,
[14:28] <skrite> artao: there are a number of ways to get a newer version of a package.
[14:28] <FlameReaper-PC> ... and built the Krita package out of frustration.
[14:29] <skrite> the first thing i would do is compile it from the source packages.. don't get more up to date that that.
[14:29] <FlameReaper-PC> But I guess I can understand... to have to download the entire Calligra source and configure flags so that it just builds one application from that
[14:30] <FlameReaper-PC> simply doesn't bid well to... quite an audience.
[14:31] <FlameReaper-PC> Especially if the people we're talking to simply can't go anywhere even with a manual.
[14:56] <mokie> hi everyone
[14:56] <mokie> question
[14:56] <mokie> anyone have problems with kde 4.10 on kubuntu 12.10 (backports ppa)?
[14:57] <mokie> im gonna enable it
[14:58] <BluesKaj> mokie, I just upgraded /dist-upgraded 12.10 , and didn't have any problems
[14:59] <skrite> mokie: same here, updated yesterday with the backports ppa, everything is pretty nice.
[14:59] <skrite> no bugs so far
[14:59] <mokie> ok, so i will try
[15:17] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, I've made a deb package using checkinstall -D from a tar.gz package. How can I change the deb package to add the postinst script?
[15:19] <Peace-> ovidiu-florin: you need to learn how to do a proper package
[15:19] <Peace-> checkinstall is not a good stuff
[15:19] <ovidiu-florin> have I done something wronk by doing it like this?
[15:19] <ovidiu-florin> I've tested the package... it work's
[15:20] <BadDesign> Anyone here managed to install PostgreSQL 9.2 on K/Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal?
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> Peace-: what's wrong int my aproach?
[15:23] <Peace-> ovidiu-florin: checkinstall it's good to install a pakacge in your system
[15:23] <Peace-> but not to create a real debian
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> then how should I do it?
[15:23] <Peace-> ovidiu-florin: i know how to build a package for a simple script but i suggest to search on the wiki
[15:24] <ovidiu-florin> Peace-: using dpkg --build ?
[15:25] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Take a look at "dh_make" and "debuild".
[15:26] <Peace-> ovidiu-florin: this is my how to for scripts but like said from lordievader dh_make http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/how-to-create-a-debian-for-a-dolphin-service-menu-with-a-bash-script-and-upload-it-on-launchpad/
[15:26] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Since I don't really understand them myself I cannot really be of assitance any further.
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> before I got to checkinstall I've researched about how to make package.. and the simplest and Debian recommended way I've found is usign dpkg --build
[15:28] <tsimpson> dpkg --build is for building a package, not creating one
[15:28] <Peace-> ovidiu-florin: read that link i have sent you
[15:29] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[15:29] <Peace-> you will learn how to do a debian package for script
[15:29] <Peace-> then you can learn more with dh:make
[15:30] <Captain_Proton> stupid question I lost the main menu and connect optiom in KRDC. How do I get them back?
[15:30] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: try with CTRL M
[15:31] <jackyalcine> If I wanted to make my own LightDM KDE theme, I'd just copy and edit what's under /usr/share/kde4/apps/lightdm-kde-greeter/themes/, no?
[15:31] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: thanks that worked :)
[15:31] <Peace-> jackyalcine: there is even your local directory
[15:32] <Peace-> jackyalcine: basically yes
[15:32] <jackyalcine> interesting, thanks!
[15:32] <lordievader> jackyalcine: Isn't there a sub-folder in there for every theme?
[15:34] <jackyalcine> yup, but only classic and userbar for now
[15:35] <Captain_Proton> one more ? i like to make the window key launch the run command but when I try it give me meta+ is there a way to hack it?
[15:35] <_markd_> hi..  I'm having dependency issues with kdelibs5-plugins and kdelibs4c2a - error messages here: http://pastebin.com/AzvqMdpL
[15:36] <lordievader> Captain_Proton: You can, but in the process the meta becomes a different key, so it can no longer be used for different combinations.
[15:36] <lordievader> Captain_Proton: I'm talking about a work-around, haven't seen a better way yet.
[15:37] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: there is a program to do tat
[15:37] <Peace-> wait a moment
[15:37] <Captain_Proton> lordievader: your talking about remaping the keyboard right?
[15:37] <lordievader> Captain_Proton: Indeed I am ;)
[15:37] <_markd_> I have no idea how to fix it as apt-get -f install does not fix it, and I don't know what to uninstall to get things back
[15:37] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ksuperkey?content=154569&PHPSESSID=346a5fbcca288d8082e524d481ebfa04
[15:38] <Captain_Proton> lordievader: I guess it will be better in the long run to alt+f2
[15:38] <Peace-> ksuperkey is good
[15:42] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: kool thanks I will install it
[15:43] <jackyalcine> okay, how do I test my theme?
[15:43] <jackyalcine> I've run lightdm-kde-greeter and got the greeter, but I don't know how to tell it what theme to use.
[15:47] <jackyalcine> op, forget it
[15:47] <jackyalcine> Google is my best friend :)
[15:47] <Peace-> jackyalcine: try to create a new session
[15:48] <_markd_> can someone help me with dependency issues??
[15:49] <Peace-> _markd_: kde version kbuuntu version
[15:50] <jackyalcine> Peace-: lightdm --test-mode :)
[15:51] <Peace-> jackyalcine: btw there is a channel for lightdm
[15:51] <Peace-> jackyalcine: i have asked directlu to the developer
[15:52] <_markd_> kubuntu 12.04 - just upgraded to 4.10 yesterday, now I have issues..  actually the upgrade never finished
[15:53] <_markd_> errors in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/AzvqMdpL
[15:54] <genii-around> _markd_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-plugins_4%3a4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1_amd64.deb
[15:54] <Peace-> _markd_: have you ppa too ?
[15:55] <Peace-> genii-around: :) i will add this to my aptk service menu
[15:55] <_markd_> not sure what you mean by ppa??  I have several sources installed yes
[15:55] <Peace-> _markd_: when you upgrade kde disable ppa first
[15:55] <Peace-> _markd_: i mean external ppa
[15:56] <Peace-> ppa btw are dangerous expecially those that are not from kubuntu team
[15:56] <_markd_> ok..
[15:57] <yan> Hi. I just installed kubuntu through the alternate cd with an encrypted system. i have done this before and it works. but now when i sync my backup to my new (ssd) hdd, i get an error that some (akregator) file names are too long. this seems to be related to the encryption with ecryptfs:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/344878 but until today, i was sure that the encryption used was dm-crypt/luks. has that changed?
[15:58] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: I am not sure if you can help on this, but when I try to rebind ksuperkey to to alt+f2 i receive "Runs as a daemon unless --debug flag is set"
[15:58] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: I am copy and pasting right for the app page
[15:59] <Peace-> wait a moment
[16:00] <_markd_> will do that..
[16:00] <_markd_> thanks
[16:00] <_markd_> is the kubuntu-ppa backports OK?
[16:04] <markd____> lost my connection in between, so did not get the response if you sent one..  is the kubuntu-ppa backports a good ppa to keep?
[16:04] <Peace-> markd____: yes
[16:04] <markd____> thanks
[16:04] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: mmm i am testing
[16:05] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: ok with alt f1 it works here
[16:06] <Peace-> now i will try with another stuff
[16:07] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: cool thnaks. i am doing it right? ksuperkey -e 'Super_L=Alt_L|F2'
[16:07] <Captain_Proton> that for the website
[16:08] <Captain_Proton> from*
[16:10] <yan> is it possible that if i selected "encrypt my home folder" on install, it is encrypted twice? once through ecryptfs and then through dm-crypt/lvm?
[16:12] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: mmm i can't set it too
[16:12] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: mm this strange
[16:14] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: I will compile it and see if that helps
[16:14] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: i will just do this ... change the alt f2 shortcuts
[16:14] <Peace-> to alt f1 :D
[16:14] <Peace-> it should work as you want
[16:15] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: lol :D ok
[16:18] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/07/plasma-desktopXX2156.png
[16:19] <Captain_Proton> Peace-: hey what widget are you using to make the running icons like that?
[16:19] <Peace-> icontask
[16:20] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: just install my plasma panels collection
[16:20] <Captain_Proton> do I have to download it?
[16:20] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: nope
[16:20] <Peace-> icontask is on the kde standard stuff
[16:20] <Peace-> btw i did sudo apt-get install plasma-widget* :D i have space
[16:21] <Captain_Proton> Cool thanks again I found it
[16:22] <Captain_Proton> It has been along time away from KDE. I need to get use to it
[16:22] <Peace-> Captain_Proton: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collections?content=155726  this is a collections of pannels but you can do even manullay
[16:22] <Peace-> manually
[16:25] <ovidiu-florin> Is there any chance I can get the Johnny Castaway screensaver  on my kubuntu?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, I believe it will run , but only in wine , don't think it's been ported to linux
[17:01] <skaet> Riddell,  put a placeholder up for Alpha2 release notes last night following the pattern from Alpha1.    Bit worried if there are enough folks around to test Alpha 2 next week as well as 12.04.2 though in parallel.
[17:02] <Riddell> thanks skaet
[17:02] <Riddell> skaet: you know you're welcome in #kubuntu-devel ? :)
[17:03]  * skaet heading there for this.  :)
[17:38] <gerlos> hello everyone!
[17:43] <gerlos> last week I upgraded my kubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10, and today I upgraded KDE to 4.10 from kubuntu-backports pps
[17:43] <gerlos> ppa
[17:44] <gerlos> now I've got an error with italian localization
[17:45] <Peace-> gerlos: e reinstalllale
[17:45] <Peace-> gerlos: reinstall the localization deb
[17:45] <gerlos> when I go to "system languages" in systemsettings I got this message: "the service system languages does not provide an interface kcmodule with keyword language-selecto/language-selector.py
[17:49] <gerlos> Peace: reinstalled them, it works fine, but keep seeing the same error in systemsettings
[17:50] <Peace-> gerlos: mmm dunno i am italian but i use english all the time
[17:52] <gerlos> Peace-: I am Italian too,
[17:52] <Peace-> well i knew it
[17:53] <gerlos> localization seems working fine everywhere, the annoying thing is that once in a while appears that window from systemsettings, telling me about that error
[17:55] <Peace-> gerlos: ok i re-read tyour problem
[17:55] <Peace-> gerlos: that seems to be a problem with the kcm module that is missing
[17:56] <gerlos> Peace-: I see. Any hint on how to find and restore it?
[17:57] <Peace-> gerlos: mmm i dunno because there  could be a problme with python version too
[17:57] <Peace-> gerlos: wait a moment i will ask
[17:58] <gerlos> Peace-: thanks
[17:58] <Peace-> gerlos:  kcmshell4 --list | grep langua
[17:59] <Peace-> gerlos: gives you empty ooutput ?
[17:59] <gerlos> no
[18:00] <Peace-> gerlos:  kcmshell4 language
[18:00] <gerlos> PEace-: here's the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1621647/
[18:02] <Peace-> gerlos: did you tried the command i sent you ?
[18:03] <gerlos> Peace-: yes, pasted the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1621647/
[18:03] <Peace-> gerlos: no not that one
[18:03] <Peace-> [19:00] <Peace-> gerlos:  kcmshell4 language
[18:04] <gerlos> sorry, missed it
[18:04] <gerlos> it works
[18:04] <Peace-> gerlos: i guess it's a problem with python
[18:05] <Peace-> gerlos: i mean it load the module to choose language and all ?
[18:06] <gerlos> actually, it's the third item in the locale sidebar giving me that error (I suppose it is "system languages" in English)
[18:07] <gerlos> The first one works fine: I can choose my language, and if I push it to the first place it changes locale for all the apps
[18:07] <Peace-> gerlos: can you try with a new user ?
[18:07] <gerlos> I'll create a new one
[18:11] <gerlos> created new user and su'ed me from a terminal, got the same result
[18:11] <gerlos> maybe should I try a full login?
[18:11] <Peace-> su'ed?
[18:12] <Peace-> gerlos: you can start a new session without close this one
[18:16] <gerlos> I'm back: got same error, and saw also a notification from apport about an "internal error", caused by systemsettings
[18:17] <Peace-> gerlos: mmm  i will tell yoou what you should do ... try to ask here #kubuntu-devel
[18:17] <Peace-> gerlos: but not now i guess everybody are gone
[18:18] <Peace-> gerlos: tomorrow you could get some answers but you cantry even now
[18:18] <gerlos> ok, I'll try, many thanks!
[18:25] <sbalmos> Wanted to pop in and see... Under KDE 4.10 that was just released, the notification panels and the borders of the Kicker are completely transparent. Makes it hard to read the notifications. Is this intended or a bug?
[18:28] <mandoguit> sbalmos:   don't really know as I haven't been using kde for that long but I ended up turning off transparency and that made things even worse (black background so that nothing could be read).....finally ended up turning off all desktop effects until such a time as I feel motivated to explore further.  ;-)
[18:29] <disharmonic> sbalmos, are you using the default theme?
[18:29] <disharmonic> you could try changing the colour sheme
[18:29] <sbalmos> disharmonic: Yes.
[18:29] <sbalmos> disharmonic: One moment. Working over VNC (which isn't bad, just slightly laggy
[18:32] <wing__> hi there
[18:33] <disharmonic> does the x-updates ppa have s3tc and floating point textures enabled or do i need edf=gers for that?
[18:33] <disharmonic> edgers that is
[18:34] <disharmonic> sry, wrong window :P
[18:34] <wing__> i think packages in ppa are still works in progress
[18:35] <wing__> as of now package manager reported me bad signature on files downloading
[18:35] <sbalmos> meh, looks like it's kind of intended. Maybe I'll just keep Air for Netbooks as my theme. That seems to be okay. Normal Air has the odd (to me) transparency
[18:35] <wing__> Someone got missed Oxygen theme after upgrading to 4.10 ?
[18:37] <yofel> sbalmos: no, they're not intended to be *completely* transparent
[18:37] <yofel> sbalmos: they should be at worst ~75% transparent if blur doesn't work
[18:38] <yofel> sbalmos: but theck the plasma theme settings if the panel isn't set to something else.
[18:38] <yofel> *check
[18:38] <yofel> wing__: they're  not really work in progress. If you get a key error either you don't have the key or the cache refresh failed. Refreshing the cache again might help there
[18:40] <wing__> i clean cache and tried several times the upgrade command but it reports a hash mismatch
[18:41] <disharmonic> sbalmos, i use slim glow personally with obsidian coast as my colour theme. Though i do dislike bright colours
[18:41] <yofel> odd, maybe the server messed up. You can run 'sudo apt-get check' to regenerate the local cache anyway with the old files
[18:41] <wing__> thanks for the tip , im trying it right now
[18:42] <yofel> might not help with the signature though.
[18:42] <sbalmos> argh. This is getting fun. The notification popup is okay now. But Kicker's search box / username and borders are still completely transparent
[18:43] <yofel> o.O
[18:43] <wing__> still same , it could be related to server, i got that error weeks ago but solved after a couple hours.
[18:44] <wing__> is there a way to have oxygen style back ? since the half upgrade its missing :(
[18:44] <yofel> what's still stopping the upgrade?
[18:45] <yofel> the theme itself is the kde-style-oxygen package. If that's what's really broken
[18:46] <wing__> it looks successful upgraded, no error report, but oxygen style isnt present now although the package is installed
[18:46] <disharmonic> wing__,  try sudo apt-get install kde-style-oxygen
[18:47] <yofel> wing__: what do you have instead?
[18:47] <wing__> already installed, if it will not remove whole kde i could try reinstalling
[18:47] <disharmonic> ah, it's installed
[18:47] <wing__> its CDE now as default but i changed in plastic style since i didnt like that
[18:47] <yofel> you can use 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-style-oxygen'
[18:47] <yofel> hm
[18:48] <wing__> it cant be reinstalled :(
[18:49] <yofel> why not?
[18:49] <wing__> thats the error , i try now with sudo apt-get remove that-package and reinstall manually
[18:49] <yofel> ah, that won't work
[18:49] <yofel> what you can use is:
[18:50] <yofel> sudo dpkg -r --force-depends kde-style-oxygen; sudo apt-get install -f
[18:51] <wing__> it removed some stuffs and installed an old version of oxygen 4.8.5
[18:51] <wing__> i try ur command now
[18:52] <yofel> hm, can you pastebin what 'apt-cache policy kde-style-oxygen' says?
[18:52] <wing__> nothing to do same error like before
[18:52] <wing__> yeah gimme 1 sec and i paste it
[18:53] <wing__> here the link http://pastebin.com/u8EvZm7s
[18:54] <yofel> hm... and you're looking for which version?
[18:54] <wing__> latest one from 4.10 release
[18:54] <wing__> i added related
[18:54] <yofel> is kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled?
[18:55] <wing__> yes
[18:55] <disharmonic> looks like your apt cache is messed up
[18:55] <yofel> ok... then let's try to completely reset the cache
[18:55] <yofel> 'sudo apt-get clean' and 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*'
[18:56] <yofel> and 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*'
[18:56] <yofel> then apt-get update should fetch everything fresh
[18:58] <wing__> ok
[18:58] <wing__> 1 sec pls
[18:59] <wing__> updating index
[18:59] <wing__> here again problem with hash
[19:00] <wing__> thanks for the effort helping , i give up for now and try again later
[19:00] <wing__> hoping in better luck with server
[19:00] <yofel> hm, weird :/
[19:01] <wing__> maybe wrong built packages or messy servers
[19:01] <yofel> the packages are fine, they work here. It's just odd that you're getting an archive error
[19:02] <wing__> i dunno whats wrong as far as i understand it downloads from server both packages and checksums
[19:02] <wing__> then compare them
[19:02] <yofel> yeah, which it does fine here.
[19:03] <wing__> for process to fail  you require to get corrupted packages
[19:03] <disharmonic> maybe the hash key on your end got corrupted somehow?
[19:03] <yofel> disharmonic: nah, this is just the package list file checksum
[19:04] <yofel> (or otherwise his apt-cache output wouldn't be missing)
[19:04] <yofel> *unless* he added the wrong PPA
[19:05] <wing__> ì re-added ppa repository and got a new message from apt-cache policy
[19:05] <wing__> is it useful to you to read it ?
[19:06] <wing__> here the pastbin http://pastebin.com/GipamXzN
[19:07] <wing__> i reinstalled it , it went fine
[19:07] <wing__> i need to restart plasma or reboot my pc to have oxygen in the appeareances menu?
[19:10] <wing__> solved hash issue too
[19:10] <wing__> i give it a reboot and back here to report
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> hello guys. Is the NVIDIA driver version 173 older or newer than the version current?
[19:17] <wing__> nothing to do , successfully installed the package but oxygen style still missing
[19:18] <wing__> thanks for your help , i give up now ,. i wait for an update later
[19:18] <wing__> thanks byebye
[19:24] <genii-around> For some reason now I want to do the Gangham Style song but sing Oxygen Style instead
[19:25] <mandoguit> meds time then! ;-)
[19:26]  * BluesKaj heads out to the mailbox
[19:28] <todi>  i will install an apache server how have i to search in muon??
[19:59] <todi> hi does anyone know how the apache server is called in muon??
[20:01] <BluesKaj> todi, try apache2 , it
[20:01] <BluesKaj> 's ametapackage
[20:02] <todi> if i search for apache2 i didn't find anything
[20:02] <todi> thats the problem
[20:04] <BluesKaj> todi, make sure you have all the repositories including the canonical partners enabled in muon
[20:05] <BluesKaj> except for the cdrom , of course
[20:07] <todi> i have found it now. the thing is that there are two ways to install programms. i used the programm administration and not the package administration. last time i used ubuntu and there i think it is the same
[20:07] <todi> thanks for your help:-)
[20:09] <BluesKaj> todi, you can also use the konsole/terminal , sudo apt-get install apache2
[20:11] <todi> BluesKaj, i know that this is possible but i prefer the gui to install it
[20:11] <todi> *UI
[20:33] <Captain_Proton> I change by window theme and k something crash now I have no windows bottons. What do I need to restart to get them back?
[20:44] <Wizard> Probably this was asked 100 times today, is there a KDE 4.10 ppa for Kubuntu 12.10 or 12.04? :)
[20:45] <Torch> Wizard: it's right on kubuntu.org's start page ;-)
[20:45] <Wizard> LOL
[20:45] <Wizard> No kidding :)
[20:45] <lordievader> I believe it is even in the topic of this channel.
[20:46] <Wizard> :O
[20:46] <Wizard> I'm sorry then.
[20:46] <lordievader> Hehe no worries :P
[20:46] <Wizard> And it is available for 12.04 too :>
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> hello world. My laptop died while updatting my kubuntu 12.10 because of the low battery. When I turned it back on, and logged in, I can see just the wallpaper, no pannels and I can't right click. I tried to finishe the updates form tty1. No change. I tried to restore the defauld workspace by mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old, this didn't help eighter. Any ideeas?
[21:33] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: I would suggest ctrl-alt-f1  then login at console, do sudo apt-get -f install
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> genii-around: no dependency's are unmet
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> aptitude would have notified me about that when I finished the updates from tty1
[21:37] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: I would suggest to use apt-get instead. Perhaps in this case: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update && sudo sync      ... then just to make sure you have what you're supposed to for kubuntu to work:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> genii-around: wouldn't that break the settings for all the users?
[21:39] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: It won't install anything in any user's home directory.
[21:41] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: At any rate, this why to use apt-get and not aptitude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768
[22:10] <roasted> Question - KDE is heavily heavily customizable. So customizable that I began to wonder, is there a way for me to somehow package all of my GUI oriented settings (widgets, widget settings, menu settings, theme, icon set, etc) into a package and somehow easily deploy that to my laptop to have an identical environment?
[22:21] <Quintasan> roasted: you can just copypaste your /home/<username>/.kde directory
[22:22] <roasted> Quintasan: oh, really? ALL KDE configs are in there?
[22:22] <roasted> Quintasan: if that's the case, I'll tarball it and put it on my owncloud server so I can grab it anywhere. :D
[22:22] <Quintasan> all your personalised settings are ther
[22:22] <Quintasan> there*
[22:22] <roasted> Quintasan: I was not aware. Thanks!
[22:26] <Quintasan> roasted: No problem
[22:37] <mum> hello all
[22:45] <thelionroars> Hi mum
[22:45] <thelionroars> I know they left, I just had to say it...
[22:46] <thelionroars> doesn anyone know when Libre Office 4 will hit the repos?
[22:46] <DarthFrog> If it does, it'll probably be in backports.
[22:49] <amichair> I just ran an apt-get upgrade on 12.10 with kubuntu ppa, and getting unmet dependency errors: http://pastebin.com/nTa11ppQ
[22:49] <amichair> some sort of mix between kde 4.9.5 and 4.10 - can anyone help resolve this?
[23:05] <avihay> anyone has any problems with the new screen locker?
[23:08] <avihay> amichair: I had to remove some of the marble packages to upgrade. also try using synaptic, it shows you some of the errors more clearly
[23:09] <amichair> avihay: is this a bug in packaging, or something wrong on my system?
[23:09] <avihay> I wouldn't know
[23:14] <thelionroars> lol
[23:15] <thelionroars> just installed LO4 from the site, and removed 3.6
[23:15] <thelionroars> it looks kind of ugly
[23:53] <roasted> Quintasan: didn't work as I expected
[23:53] <roasted> but I admittedly may have goofed
[23:54] <roasted> I accidentally extracted the kde.tar.gz to my home dir while actively running kde. After that things began freezing and crashing.
[23:54] <roasted> I ended up having to restore it via liveusb, but even then I booted up and most of my settings were non existent.