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| etienne | Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.10 and i need to install some package found on this website : http://deve.loping.net/projects/ignoflash/downloads/ | 02:32 |
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| etienne | can't seem to find a way to do it... | 02:33 |
| etienne | Can somebody help me please | 02:33 |
| etienne | I download the package from the 2nd link... Then I get a .tgz archive, which I extract.... | 02:36 |
| etienne | Then I don't know what to do next..... | 02:37 |
| bookpage | If a process has a user max stack size set, does it immediately get allocated the total amount of memory for its stack? | 02:46 |
| bookpage | i.e. if it had 10MB max stack size, then created 3 children, would they all have 10MB stacks too, and it would use 40MB of memory? | 02:47 |
| etienne | @bookpage I'm waiting for an answer for 10 minutes... Doesn't seem to have activity here at all... | 02:48 |
| etienne | maybe you can help me! | 02:48 |
| etienne | Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.10 and i need to install some package found on this website : http://deve.loping.net/projects/ignoflash/downloads/ | 02:48 |
| etienne | <etienne> can't seem to find a way to do it... | 02:48 |
| etienne | <etienne> Can somebody help me please | 02:48 |
| etienne | <etienne> I download the package from the 2nd link... Then I get a .tgz archive, which I extract.... | 02:48 |
| etienne | <etienne> Then I don't know what to do next..... | 02:48 |
| etienne | REPOST...PLEASE HELP! Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.10 and i need to install some package found on this website : http://deve.loping.net/projects/ignoflash/downloads/ | 02:52 |
| etienne | can't seem to find a way to do it... | 02:52 |
| etienne | Can somebody help me please | 02:52 |
| etienne | <etienne> I download the package from the 2nd link... Then I get a .tgz archive, which I extract.... | 02:52 |
| etienne | Then I don't know what to do next..... | 02:52 |
| etienne | So is there another channel or way to get help? | 02:55 |
| Unit193 | etienne: It's generally not recommended to isntall stuff outside of the repo, but you can try #ubuntu | 02:56 |
| etienne | Thanks! | 02:57 |
| WeThePeople | anybody know how to fix a .ICEauthority file | 03:12 |
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| albert_ | I have an arch question but the arch room isn't working for me | 16:58 |
| albert_ | and they just hate on me for being a nube when I ask questions anyway, so maybe here is better, if someone knows Arch | 16:58 |
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| Unit193 | Arch isn't supported here, no. | 17:00 |
| raub | Phryq: is it arch-specific or Linux in general? | 17:01 |
| Phryq | I don't know. I edited visudo the other day, and it broke my ability to run sudo | 17:01 |
| Phryq | or to 'su' | 17:01 |
| raub | That could be bad | 17:02 |
| Phryq | well, not exactly, only seems my ability to run the pacage manager as su - root is broken. | 17:02 |
| raub | But su should not be affected by sudo IMHO | 17:02 |
| Phryq | if I could edit visudo in the gui, then I think I can fix it | 17:02 |
| raub | Do it command line | 17:03 |
| Phryq | but being ultra nube, I only know how to type 'visudo' into a terminal, and don't really know how to edit it after doing that | 17:03 |
| raub | visudo is either running pico/nao or vi | 17:03 |
| raub | er nano | 17:03 |
| Phryq | (which is why I plan to switch to lubuntu after I fix this problem. I don't have time to learn Arch anymore). | 17:03 |
| Phryq | can I find visudo in a directory? like in Dolphin? | 17:04 |
| raub | the file visudo edit is called sudoers | 17:04 |
| raub | As in /etc/sudoers in both ubuntu and centos | 17:05 |
| Phryq | thanks | 17:05 |
| raub | But, root should not be affected by it AFAIK | 17:05 |
| Unit193 | export EDITOR=nano then do it, otherwise I'd recommend you looking at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo or maybe try ##linux ? | 17:05 |
| Phryq | I got into the Arch channel, but as usual they simply call me stupid for not knowing how to work linux. Don't know why Arch users are like that. | 17:06 |
| raub | Arch community expects people to know Linux well before using it | 17:06 |
| raub | Ubuntu likes to say it is Linux for the people | 17:07 |
| raub | so its community is more positive towards beginners | 17:07 |
| Phryq | ah. Ya, I think I should've started with Ubuntu in order to learn without being hated on. I think that Lubuntu is also relatively fast | 17:08 |
| raub | Also, ubuntu tends to work on whatever intel/amd-based box you are running out of the box | 17:08 |
| raub | Case in point: a girl I know has a X61 laptop. She spent like months trying to get it running properly on Windows 7 (tablet pressure stuff). Pen worked right from the get goin on ubuntu | 17:09 |
| Phryq | 12.10 is the newest, right? | 17:11 |
| raub | AFAIK, yeah | 17:11 |
| Phryq | ok, so I can't open sudoers without being root | 17:12 |
| raub | You will get it installed and up and running much faster than arch | 17:12 |
| Phryq | but when I open it in terminal I get errors | 17:12 |
| raub | That is to be expected. You need to be able to do su - and know the root pw | 17:12 |
| Phryq | well my arch is installed and running mostly, but I want to be able to run virtual machines, and instal some other things, and many things are a huge pain to do | 17:13 |
| raub | FYI, even on ubuntu you need to be nice to the sudoers file | 17:13 |
| Phryq | ya, I thought I was being careful but appreantly not. . . | 17:14 |
| Phryq | haha | 17:14 |
| raub | Happens with everyone | 17:14 |
| Phryq | ok, so from terminal, if I want to run sudoers file, I can't simply CD to the directory and type 'sudoers' right? | 17:15 |
| Phryq | I have to open a program? I tried opening Kwrite, but it gives me an error | 17:15 |
| raub | FYI, if you want to run virtual machines I would probably pick kvm(libvirt+qemu) or virtualbox. There is agood info on setting them up int he ubuntu wiki | 17:16 |
| raub | sudoers is a file. You would need an editor to look into it, like vi, nano, or whatever. | 17:16 |
| raub | But, if you do not have permissions you can't open it | 17:17 |
| Phryq | ok. I tried both KVM and virtualbox in Arch; each had different problems. I was about to instal VMware but gave up as I had to compile it from the AUR | 17:17 |
| Phryq | actually, I can open it using visudo, so maybe I should simply use that route | 17:18 |
| raub | I have run both in ubuntu; it is too easy to set them up | 17:18 |
| Phryq | but I can't make a '#' sign in visudo | 17:18 |
| Phryq | awesome | 17:18 |
| Phryq | which is faster? KVM? | 17:18 |
| raub | In the virtualbox site there are specific docs just to make it work in ubuntu | 17:18 |
| raub | Hmmm, probably. But in real life I think virtualbox is more convenient | 17:19 |
| raub | Specially if you want to create a vm and send to a friend running something else (windows, osx etc) | 17:20 |
| raub | Phryq: I do not know what editor arch is using for visudo. Maybe vi? | 17:21 |
| Phryq | I think | 17:21 |
| Phryq | it's an editor inside the terminal | 17:21 |
| raub | I know very little of arch; I use ubuntu at work and for my personal laptop. And centos for my home server. | 17:22 |
| holstein | Phryq: there is a root recovery terminal in the recovery kernel at boot | 17:24 |
| raub | holstein: I do think he would be happier running ubuntu as the host OS and then playing with arch in a vm. | 17:25 |
| holstein | happy is a matter of opinion | 17:26 |
| holstein | the tools are pretty much the same.. i would go with which one fits needs best | 17:26 |
| Phryq | I just want to fix my sudoers file, so I can instal unetbootin, so I can put ubuntu onto a flash drive, rawr! | 17:26 |
| Phryq | maybe there's an easier way to run unetbootin | 17:26 |
| holstein | Phryq: you can use the root recovery console | 17:26 |
| Phryq | how do I do that? | 17:26 |
| holstein | Phryq: you choose the recovery kernel i mentioned.. at boot.. | 17:27 |
| Phryq | Ah, my computer doesn't boot like that | 17:27 |
| holstein | Phryq: you boot the recovery kernel instead of the normal kernel.. choose "root shell" or whatever it is | 17:27 |
| Phryq | I start with a terminal, log into root | 17:27 |
| Phryq | then I run lxdm | 17:27 |
| raub | If oyu log into root, | 17:27 |
| holstein | Phryq: you have grub and ubuntu.. so you have a recovery kernel | 17:27 |
| holstein | Phryq: this is pre-x... pre login | 17:27 |
| Phryq | I'm running arch, not ubuntu | 17:28 |
| raub | But, if he can login as root, he can edit the file | 17:28 |
| raub | pre-x | 17:28 |
| holstein | Phryq: im sure there is something similar.. a recovery console.. you can always edit what you broke from a live CD as well | 17:28 |
| holstein | KVM and virtualbox are really quite different | 17:28 |
| holstein | KVM is a bare metal hypervisor.. virtualbox is for virtualizing a "machine" | 17:29 |
| holstein | again, one might fit your needs better than the other.. or be faster for some certain tasks | 17:30 |
| Phryq | I could edit sudoers with kwrite, right?? | 17:31 |
| holstein | Phryq: you edit a text file with a text editor | 17:31 |
| Phryq | I need it for 2 things. 1 to run a music notation program, which requires lots of audio/midi | 17:31 |
| holstein | Phryq: kwrite is one of those.. so is nano.. gedit.. | 17:31 |
| holstein | Phryq: it? | 17:31 |
| Phryq | and 2 to run Tails, so that I can look up things from my highly censored country | 17:31 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio runs great live.. so does AVLinux | 17:31 |
| * holstein is a music professional | 17:32 | |
| holstein | again, the applications are mostly the same,, if not exactly the same.. really depends on if you need/want arch or ubuntu | 17:32 |
| Phryq | Ah. I used to run Ubuntu studio, back in version 9 | 17:33 |
| Phryq | 9.04 | 17:33 |
| holstein | 1 music notation program does *not* require lots of audio/midi | 17:33 |
| Phryq | I tried all the notation programs. None met my needs. Musescore was closest, but I couldn't make it work | 17:33 |
| holstein | heres one that runs in the browser http://www.noteflight.com/login requiring only a browser on the local machine | 17:33 |
| holstein | Phryq: you chose not to use it | 17:33 |
| holstein | Phryq: again, musescore works great, *if* it meets your needs | 17:34 |
| holstein | still, no notation editors require much... most dont even pull in JACK | 17:34 |
| holstein | we dont need to debate any of that though... nor what is "better".. you just say what you need, and a volunteer can help you get there | 17:35 |
| Phryq | ya, I don't think I need a lot of what studio offers atm. I don't need a real time kernel | 17:37 |
| Phryq | though having jack etc. settup is convinient | 17:37 |
| Phryq | but I've already downloaded Lubuntu, and my connection is too slow to download another right now | 17:38 |
| holstein | Phryq: i dont think you need it either | 17:40 |
| holstein | Phryq: i dont agree that the music notation editor requires a lot of audio/midi | 17:40 |
| holstein | Phryq: what im saying is, *if* it does, or you think it does, you can always use a live CD | 17:40 |
| holstein | thus, taking advantage of the ubuntustudio ecosystem while maintaining the above stance "i dont need a lot of what studio offers" | 17:41 |
| holstein | you wont have anything installed locally | 17:41 |
| holstein | Phryq: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Boot_Debugging#Repairing_with_Arch_live-cd | 17:41 |
| Phryq | I use Sibelius as my notation on windows. When I use it, there is a ridiculous amount of overhead. | 17:43 |
| Phryq | I go poweruser to the extreme with that program | 17:43 |
| holstein | Phryq: as far as i know, its windows only | 17:44 |
| holstein | Phryq: there is nothing about linux/ubuntu that is preventing sibelius from being written for linux | 17:44 |
| holstein | sibelius is "self contained" though, and doesnt "require" any more midi/audio applications | 17:47 |
| Phryq | ya, I wish Sibelius were written for liiinux | 17:48 |
| Phryq | appearently version 5 works ok through Wine, but not 7 | 17:48 |
| Phryq | 5 would be ok if it were 64 bit | 17:48 |
| holstein | i find it easier when folks dont use any software, rather than coming to linux with a work flow they are used to | 17:53 |
| holstein | i *know* musescore can do what you want.. but you are used to sibelius | 17:53 |
| holstein | and thats fine, but if you had no experience with sibelius, you would just use musescore, and figure it out | 17:54 |
| holstein | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1124 | 17:54 |
| Phryq | can musescore use vsts? | 18:02 |
| holstein | Phryq: the creator of *any* of those vst's you are asking about can make them compatible/useable in linux/ubuntu | 18:03 |
| holstein | Phryq: musescore can connect with anything JACK can... which is most all native applications | 18:04 |
| holstein | i assume you are trying to route musecore to instruments | 18:04 |
| holstein | KXstudio has done lots of work to get windows vst support in a nice ubuntu based distro | 18:05 |
| holstein | i personally dont bother with windows software in linux | 18:05 |
| holstein | you can always export the project and import the midi data into windows | 18:05 |
| holstein | Phryq: the short answer is.. musescore can use any vst's it is allowed to use | 18:06 |
| Phryq | ok | 18:06 |
| Phryq | I know reaper in linux through wine can use many windows vsts | 18:07 |
| Phryq | I wonder if musescore could do the same | 18:07 |
| holstein | Phryq: again.. any vst's its allowed to use | 18:07 |
| holstein | you also dont have to "wonder".. you can fire up a live CD and know | 18:07 |
| holstein | i personally dont bother | 18:07 |
| holstein | you can also ask in #kxstudio | 18:07 |
| holstein | i think those guys know what from the windows vst's can work | 18:08 |
| holstein | i know 32bit is easier, if not manditory | 18:08 |
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| Atlantic777 | Hi guys! It seems that the link "join now" ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam ) on this page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam ) doesn't work. | 23:45 |
| Atlantic777 | I'm logged in on launchpad and I keep getting this message: Invalid OpenID transaction | 23:46 |
| Atlantic777 | Is it only me or the link is wrong/broken somehow? | 23:46 |
| holstein | Atlantic777: "join us" ? | 23:48 |
| Atlantic777 | holstein: sorry, I pasted the wrong link https://login.launchpad.net/pWfXlTTFK1CH4DRb/+decide | 23:49 |
| Atlantic777 | it's actually "join now" | 23:49 |
| Atlantic777 | in getting started section | 23:49 |
| holstein | Atlantic777: ok.. i see the error. where is the link? | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | Launchpad can be known to be cranky, but I'd try either another browser, or clearing the cache/cookies. | 23:51 |
| Atlantic777 | holstein: in the getting started section of the Beginners Team main wiki page. | 23:51 |
| holstein | Unit193: are you looking at it? | 23:53 |
| holstein | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam#Getting_Started | 23:53 |
| holstein | i dont want to lock anyone out... | 23:53 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners I think he's talking about the join button there? | 23:55 |
| holstein | Atlantic777: that should do it... thanks for the heads up! | 23:58 |
| Atlantic777 | Oook. Thanks. :) | 23:59 |
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