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desrtpitti: good morning01:18
* desrt wonders why you are here01:18
larsudesrt, might be a bit early even for pitti01:20
* desrt is hacking on that idea we were talking about at the greek place01:20
* larsu tries to remember which one01:21
desrtthe split-jhbuild-up one01:21
larsuoh, right! How is it coming along?01:21
desrti have a hacky python script so far that uses some tricks to suck the dependency tree out of jhbuild01:22
larsunice01:22
desrtthen for each package with no dependencies it erases the installdir, builds it, and makes a tar of the result (according to the manifest)01:22
desrtthen for the following packages (with deps) it untars only the listed deps, does the build, makes the tar01:23
desrtof course it takes the transitive closure of dependencies...01:23
desrtbut the important part is that each .tar.xz contains only the files from that one module01:23
larsuwill you put the builds up on a server somewhere?01:25
desrtfor end-user usefulness i think i will drop the transitive closure business on the deps and, instead, generate a metadata file for each built module describing the .tar.xz files that you need to unpack, with checksums01:25
desrtya...01:25
desrttrying to figure out how i can set this up to have jobs dispatched to various different servers all sharing the tar directory01:26
desrtand if that will be the same interface as i want users to use01:26
desrtthey're kinda different jobs01:26
larsusounds awesome01:29
larsuneed any help?01:29
desrtmaybe01:29
desrtbest done in person, though01:29
* desrt has no idea when that will be possible, unfortunately :(01:29
larsuwell, we were thinking about visiting you tomorrow01:30
desrtinteresting01:30
larsubut I'm coming down with a bit of a cold myself :)01:30
desrtyou probably caught mine :p01:30
larsuya, already blamed you in my head01:30
desrt(or tiffany's, since we discuss transitivity)01:30
larsuheh01:30
larsulet us know if you're up to it01:31
desrti tend to feel much better in the mornings than i do later in the day01:31
desrtso it could work01:31
desrtwhat was your overall impression of that work area today, btw?01:32
larsunice, but closed at 5pm01:34
desrtouch01:34
larsuat least the lounge area01:34
larsuI think if you rent your own desk/office you get access 24h01:35
larsuat least that's what the website says01:35
larsuthe receptionist wasn't very helpful in that regard (she was new)01:35
desrtwhat are the prices like for that?01:35
larsuhttp://www.workplaceone.ca/availability_R1.html01:36
larsuprivate offices start at 76501:36
larsubut we haven't seen those today01:36
desrtnot too much info on the site either01:37
desrtexcept the strong suggestion that $765 would be for an office suitable for 1 person01:37
larsuwithout a window01:39
larsu:)01:39
larsubut would that place even work for you? It's a fairly long commute, no?01:39
desrtit could work01:39
desrtbut i'd probably need to keep odd hours to avoid the rush01:40
* larsu nods01:40
desrtgoing in the opposite direction means that this problem disappears :)01:40
larsuha01:40
larsuno office there, though :)01:40
* desrt notes another advantage of splitting the build results into separate tarballs: you can take yesterday's tarball of webkit01:49
larsuhaha!01:55
desrtno joke.  seriously a good idea01:56
larsuya, that seems to be the biggest win of the system so far :P01:56
desrtwebkit builds from a tarball so by definition there are no changes since yesterday in the source01:56
desrtand it uses glib, etc. in a way that is unlikely to break with regards to API/ABI issues in the headers01:56
desrt(read: minimally)01:56
larsuit will lead to people never building webkit again, though :D01:57
larsus/will/might01:57
larsuand maybe that's not such a bad idea ...01:57
desrtya01:57
desrtmaybe the kyoto protocol would have been a success if this had been invented earlier01:57
larsulol01:58
desrti don't know if you know about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kyoto_protocol_parties_and_2012-2020_commitments.svg01:58
desrtpretty shameful01:59
larsuhm, sad02:00
larsuwell, at least I'm not a citizen02:00
ritzrobert_ancell , sweet, thank you :)03:31
robert_ancellritz, ?03:31
ritzuser selection patch03:31
robert_ancellritz, oh, np03:32
ritzhow long before https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-improved-authentication is merged ?03:33
robert_ancellritz, it's not actively being worked on03:37
ritzrobert_ancell  passive auth seems to be it. are you thinking of using plugins or external apps to map against multiple pam stack ?03:54
ritzhope, I am not breaking your workflow03:54
robert_ancellritz, no problem. It's a patch I'd like to work on but never has high enough priority03:54
robert_ancellritz, the idea is you will have a list of passive PAM stacks configured e.g. fingerprint, smartcard and lightdm starts all of those when the greeter appears03:55
robert_ancellthe conversations will still have to be standard PAM, but if the greeter is capabable it can do a better rendering of each method03:56
ritzhmmm04:01
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didrocksgood morning06:12
pittiGood morning06:57
pittidesrt: hey, what's up?06:57
pittidesrt: my proxy is always here :)06:57
didrockshey pitti, how are you?06:57
pittididrocks: quite fine, thanks!06:57
pittididrocks: I'll go back home today06:57
didrocksah, some quiet train hacking session then? :)06:58
pittididrocks: en effet!07:01
didrockspitti: if I have a .crash file from a machine I can't log in (but I can have access to the file), with different arch, but which is using distro packages, can I just download it locally and run apport-bug? this won't really work I'm afraid as I have different version of packages here07:39
RAOFdidrocks: You should be able to run apport-retrace, which should basically pull everything into a chrootish.07:40
didrocksRAOF: working even you I'm on amd64 and the crash is on i386?07:41
RAOFIIRC, yes.07:41
didrockslet's see how it goes :)07:41
didrocksRAOF: hum, I should do something that is not suited: apport-retrace _usr_bin_compiz.1000.crash -o stacktrace07:43
didrocksE: La version « 1:0.9.9~daily13.02.06-0ubuntu1 » indisponible du paquet « compiz » est ignorée07:44
didrockswhich is the locally instealled version07:44
didrocksnot the one the crash was against07:44
RAOFdidrocks: I think you need the -S option, to do the retrace in a sandbox.07:45
* didrocks tries -S system07:46
didrocksah, it's trying to take my ppas though ;)07:47
RAOFYeah. You might want to set up a non-system sandbox if you want a pure environment :)07:47
didrocksRAOF: do you know where I can find a config file example?07:48
RAOFpitti surely has one; I've never tried hard enough to get that working.07:48
didrocksI don't find one in the man07:48
didrockslet's edit to comment the ppas for now :)07:49
pittididrocks: you need to run the apport UI on the affected machine, not on your's; otherwise it'll be worthless07:49
didrockspitti: yeah, but I don't have access to that, so apport-retrace is my last chance?07:49
pittididrocks: or, if you know exactly what's running on that foreign machine, run it in a chroot or sandbox indeed, but that's not very reliable07:50
pittididrocks: apport-retrace it is then, I guess07:50
pittihttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/apport/lp-retracer-config/files has valid configs for all our releases07:50
pitti(which are by and large the correct apt sources)07:51
pittiyou can use those with apport-retrace -S <checkout of above branch>07:51
pittididrocks: oh, and -R07:51
didrockspitti: I don't see where I will be able to tell "please run that on i386 rather amd64 for the sandbox", is that deduced from the .crash file?07:52
pittididrocks: yes, the .crash has an Architecture: field07:53
didrocksok, let's try that07:53
didrocksthanks pitti, RAOF :)07:53
jibelgood morning07:53
didrockssalut jibel!07:54
jibelbonjour didrocks07:54
pittibonjour jibel07:59
jibelbonjour pitti07:59
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* Laney eyes xnox 09:47
LaneyI just got usb-creator-gtk when nothing is plugged in09:48
Laneyit was during a dpkg --configure run09:48
Laneyin which u-c-g was updated(!)09:48
xnoxLaney: ah!09:49
LaneyYOU!09:49
xnoxthanks, I guess it shouldn't start on upgrading....09:49
Laneyhaha09:49
xnoxLaney: i have another question - why do I see lightdm login screen as my wallpaper? and when changing wallpaper nothing changes....09:50
xnox(the whole thing with username input thing and the dotted pattern)09:50
Laneyweird09:51
Laneydid you disable icons on desktop?09:51
ogra_i think seb128 dropped the wallpaper plugin from g-s-d09:51
ogra_so if your nautilus doesnt run nothing will repaint the desktop09:51
LaneyI've heard of that causing no wallpaper i.e. black09:51
Laneybut I suppose it could cause this09:51
ogra_depends on the buggyness of your graphics driver :)09:52
Laneyxnox: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons09:52
popeyi got the ubuntu core installer popup too on upgrade09:53
xnoxfalse09:54
Laneywe should probably make sure that the *tweak* programs stop letting you tweak that key09:54
Laneyxnox: set it true09:54
xnoxLaney: gosh my desktop is a mess09:55
xnoxLaney: but yeah i have wallpaper now.09:55
* xnox kind of wishes it still worked without showing icons09:55
Laneyyou could also re-enable the background gsd plugin09:55
popeyhmm.. can't help thinking this dialog could be a touch more useful... http://popey.com/~alan/updater.png  ☹09:55
popeyfirst thoughts are "which one?" "why?" and "how do i fix it?"09:56
Laneydid you get to report it to errors?09:56
popeyno09:56
Laneyem pea tea09:56
popeyjust that dialog09:56
* popey pokes mpt with a stick09:56
popeympt: http://popey.com/~alan/updater.png what do I do with this information?09:57
mpthuh wuh09:59
mptpopey, oh dear. That's not supposed to happen. If the wiki was responding I might be able to tell you what is supposed to happen.10:00
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Laneyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Handling_uninstallable_updates ?10:02
LaneyI don't see a design for when updates are statically installable but fail for some other reason10:03
mptLaney, yeah, that's for when Ubuntu knows ahead of time that they aren't installable10:03
mptbut there are many reasons an update might fail after starting10:03
mptThis is more the realm of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwarePackageOperations#Errors_common_to_installations_and_updates10:03
Laneyoho10:04
mptBut then, we don't know exactly what the problem was here, which is the problem in the first place :-)10:04
mptpopey, please report a bug, including the error from the relevant log file if you know it10:04
mptHow to tell the bug is fixed: The string "The installation or removal of a software package failed." should no longer be present in the code10:05
mptbecause it's too generic to be useful10:06
popeyok10:06
xnoxLaney: how to enable the plugin in g-s-d? (or has it been dropped upstream as well)10:09
Laneyno10:10
LaneyI forget the key name10:10
seb128hey desktopers10:10
Laneyhey seb128, nice hangout ;-)10:10
seb128Laney, thanks ;-)10:10
Laneyxnox: look at the ubuntu-settings diff which disabled it or browse in dconf-editor10:10
xnoxLaney: ok, thanks.10:11
Laneyorg.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background enabled true or something like that10:11
seb128xnox, gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true10:11
Laneyman, I was close10:11
seb128;-)10:11
Alastair1yeah, thanks seb128. how would i get involved with the development of Ubunut Phone? i've already got Qt installed to develop FOR it but i'd love to be able to at least browse the source tree10:12
seb128Alastair1, you will need to wait a bit until the dev images are published to have access to the code of the system itself10:13
ogra_wait until end of month10:13
ogra_it is still dressing up before it goes to the public, be patient and give it some time ;)10:14
Alastair1looking forward to it. thanks for all the hard work so we can have a choice, @everyone-in-here :)10:14
Alastair1i'm not impatient (much...), i just didn't want to be missing out on anything. i've got my galaxy nexus waiting to be flashed (and hoping it continues onto the nexus 4)10:15
czajkowskiseb128: good interview10:26
seb128czajkowski, thanks ;-)10:27
* mlankhorst waves to czajkowski 10:27
* Laney waves goodbye to gnome-media10:32
xnoxLaney: why does ubuntu-desktop explicitly depends on gstreamer 0.10 stack?11:14
Laneysome default sinks11:14
xnoxLaney: but that's keeping 0.10 stack on the CDs.11:15
Laneysoon they go11:15
xnoxalso bluez-gstreamer seems to still keep 0.10 stack.11:15
Laneylibpurple and sessioninstaller still do too11:15
Laneyand that11:15
xnoxah, ok.11:15
Laneyisn't germinate output just great?11:16
xnoxit has a lot of information =) but one can get cross-eyed if starring too long at it.11:17
xnox(clearly it should be -> xml -> dot -> pretty bubbles)11:17
* xnox likes bubbles11:17
Laneyi find it quite readable11:17
Laneyyou're looking at the table?11:17
xnoxI was looking at rdeps output.11:18
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.raring/all11:18
didrocksxnox: I see as for ogra the "Ubuntu Core Installer" randomly, without the nexus attached11:18
Laneyhe's been trolled for that one already :-)11:18
didrocks(and no device listed in the device list)11:18
ogra_not my fault !11:18
xnoxdidrocks: yes, it pops up on upgrading usb-creator. sorry about that.11:18
didrocksogra_: come on, you want your image to be installed everywhere!11:18
ogra_indeed, thats *our* secret cabal ;)11:19
didrocksxnox: ok, at least, you know when it happens, let's pray for a fix :)11:19
didrocksogra_: heh11:19
Laneyis start on usb-device-added not enough?11:20
xnoxLaney: postinstall does unconditional start by default (e.g. all services should be started after installation....)11:21
Laneyoho11:21
Laney--noscripts!11:22
ricotzcyphermox, hi :), fyi, the libnm-gtk-dev package needs to depend on gir1.2-nmgtk-1.011:43
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nessitahello everyone! I was wondering if someone may help me understand why a package is failing to build for Lucid in LP, when the same package builds fine in my machine using pbuilder-lucid build. The build log is https://i130559809.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/130559809/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.django-oauth-backend_0.2.2_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz?token=80cfbbad688f8a69fe039491c7c15399 and the debian/ dir is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-isd12:10
seb128nessita, hey, how are you?12:11
nessitahola seb128! so long :-)12:11
nessitaI'm pretty good, doing server stuff mostly for ubuntu single sign on and ubuntu pay12:11
seb128indeed, good to see that you are still around ;-)12:12
nessita:-)12:12
seb128nessita, it that build log from a ppa?12:12
nessitaseb128, yes, for this https://launchpad.net/~canonical-isd-hackers/+archive/ppa12:13
seb128nessita, the issue is12:13
seb128"After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied:12:13
seb128python-all(inst 2.6.5-0ubuntu1 ! >= wanted 2.6.6-3)|python-support(missing)"12:13
nessitaseb128, right, but python-support *is* available in Lucid, I checked12:13
nessitaso why is not installing it?12:13
Laneydobey asked that question yesterday12:13
nessitayeah, he was helping me12:14
Laneyit's a bug with alternate build-depends12:14
nessitaLaney, hi, btw12:14
Laneygreetings!12:14
nessitaLaney, any known workaround?12:14
seb128nessita, change the python-all (>= 2.6.6-3) | python-support to just be python-support on lucid I guess...12:15
nessitaseb128, ack, will do then12:16
LaneyI suppose some dep chain changed and that python-support used to be pulled in indirectly12:16
LaneyI would indeed have different source packages12:16
nessitaseb128, Laney, thanks a lot for the info, will apply that approach12:16
Laneyif you make a different bzr branch for each release it should be quite trivial to merge and upload whenever you need to12:17
seb128nessita, yw!12:17
Laneynessita: I can't see that PPA btw ;-)12:20
chrisccoulsondidrocks, i've figured out your tb hang now12:21
didrocks\o/12:22
didrocks\o/12:22
didrocks\o/12:22
didrockschrisccoulson: sweet! not too difficult one?12:22
chrisccoulsondidrocks, not sure yet. i'll have a go at fixing it this afternoon12:22
didrocksgreat ;)12:23
nessitaLaney, hum, weird... I thought it was open12:23
chrisccoulsondidrocks, so, basically, there's an IMAP thread waiting on a blocking read from a stream, and the socket transport thread which is feeding it gets shut down first12:27
chrisccoulsonso the IMAP thread waits forever12:27
didrocksah, makes sense12:28
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Laneypitti: when you upload glib, are the rdep tests automatically triggered or is that something you manually kick off?15:06
Laney(about to upload .7)15:06
LaneyI'll upload & block it anyway15:13
pittiLaney: they are triggered automatically15:20
pittiLaney: thanks for prepping the update!15:20
Laneyexcellent15:20
Laneyhow can I know which ones are relevant?15:20
pittiLaney: you mean which failures belong to glib?15:23
pittiLaney: right now, probably best to look at the currently failing set, and compare with tomorrow's15:24
pittiLaney: or look at all failed tests and check which started failing since today15:24
* kenvandine does the mhr3 fixed the dee leak dance!15:28
Laneypitti: fair enough - I thought there might be a log file which says "glib upload detected; triggering foo bar baz"15:29
pittiLaney: actually there is such a file (jibel would know the details), but I'm not sure we are using that already as the britney integration isn't being used yet15:30
tkamppeterpitti, do you know about debugging aptdaemon? You remeber perhaps that I have asked you about problems with a signature key for printer driver packages some days ago. Therefore I have reported bug 1116503 now. Can you perhaps hve some idea to solve the problem?15:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 1116503 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "Problems installing package signature from Python script" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111650315:32
jibelLaney, there is such a file but the other way around: "triggering blah because glib upload detected"15:33
pittitkamppeter: you can run "sudo aptd -rd" to run it in the foreground and get debugging output15:34
pittitkamppeter: I'll look at the bug, but can't do it right now (very low bandwidth in the train)15:34
Laneyjibel: ah cool - can I look at it somehow?15:35
Laney(I have VPN-fu if that's required)15:36
pittithat's running on lillypilly, isn't it?15:37
Laneyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/130637958/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.glib2.0_2.35.7-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:42
Laneygosh15:42
chrisccoulsonhmmm, do i bow to pressure and turn on gstreamer support in firefox?15:43
pittiLaney: some tests are a tad unstable; last time I needed to retry the armhf build once or twice15:43
pittialright, need to go AFK, almost home; cu tomororw!15:44
* Laney will retry15:44
Laneydem cosmic rays15:44
Laneychrisccoulson: as long as it's using 1.0 ;-)15:44
chrisccoulsoni could turn it on for every release except 13.04 ;)15:45
tkamppeterpitti, thanks, I will try this command.15:52
attentechrisccoulson: hey, do you know what's the correct bzr branch for chromium-browser? lp:chromium-browser seems really out of date15:52
mitya57attente: I believe it's lp:~cmiller/chromium-browser/ppa-chromium-browser.raring.stable, but qengho knows better16:00
attentemitya57: thanks16:01
attenteqengho: is ^ correct?16:01
tkamppeterpitti, here is the output of "sudo aptd -rd": http://paste.ubuntu.com/1621333/ while I do the Python commands of the initial description of the bug in another terminal, with both the short and the long version of the key ID. Also with the long version it complains that short versions are not supported any more.16:11
seb128chrisccoulson, those leaks you fixed in libdbusmenu ... did you have small testcases or would it be hard to write some?16:25
jibelLaney, sorry was otp. it's running on lillypilly, I must have written some doc somewhere, 1 second16:26
tkamppeterpitti, using the full key fingerprint instead of the 8-character key ID seems to work.16:26
jibelLaney, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~auto-package-testing-dev/auto-package-testing/trunk/view/head:/doc/adt-britney.md16:27
jibelLaney, the format of the request file is described line 93 with an example line 11116:27
Laneyjibel: aha, and where can I find the file?16:28
seb128bdrung, hey, did you finish the libreoffice 4 review for sponsoring? is it good to go or are there things that need fixing?16:29
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ricotzseb128, hi16:51
seb128ricotz, hey16:52
ricotzseb128, do you have a moment to sponsor this http://paste.debian.net/plain/232471 ?16:52
seb128cyphermox, ^16:53
seb128ricotz, it's a cyphermox's package ;-)16:53
ricotzright ;), if he is around16:53
cyphermoxyeah, will do16:53
ricotzcyphermox, thanks, it is a bit broken currently16:53
bdrungseb128: i was busy with RL stuff. it's on my list as first item for some days. i will look into it now.17:21
seb128bdrung, thanks17:21
robert_ancellseb128, hey, so that lightdm issue only occurs if you've enabled a login timeout. I'm not sure if that happened manually for those people or updating from GDM added it in19:44
seb128robert_ancell, hey, I figured that out, it's all sorted, I got cjwatson to move unity-greeter to precise-updates as well19:44
robert_ancellseb128, ta19:45
seb128yw19:45
jbichaLaney: there's no way we can prevent people from disabling desktop icons (in fact, Ubuntu GNOME ships that way), we could just patch the tools so that they also turn on that g-s-d plugin20:44
jbichaI'm wondering for ubuntu-gnome-default-settings if we should explicitly override the ubuntu-settings overrides20:45
thumperI seem to have two "System Settings > Appearance" icons, one works, the other doesn't...21:05
thumperhow can I remove the not working one?21:05
jbichathumper: that's weird, what version of gnome-control-center do you have installed and what desktop are you using?21:09
thumperjbicha: I'm running unity with the unity team PPA21:10
thumper 1:3.4.2-0ubuntu19 of gnome-control-center21:10
thumperjbicha: I've had the extra one for a while...21:10
thumperbut it annoys me...21:11
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labsinIs there a Ubuntu calendar and other standard apps in the making? The current solution of using evolution as a calendar for displaying in the timeanddate and thunderbold for e-mail is a bit weird.21:20
jbichathumper: the latest gnome-control-center version is 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu12, maybe you need to do a dist-upgrade?21:21
thumperjbicha: for quantal or raring?21:27
thumperjbicha: I'm just on quantal21:28
jbichathumper: oh I thought I was in the #ubuntu+1 channel, maybe try uninstalling gnome-control-center-unity?21:30
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jbichaI didn't realize there was a PPA where you could run raring's Unity on top of quantal :|21:31
thumperjbicha: hmm... I thought that may have been the cause of the problem21:35
thumperso... how do I go about removing the PPA and going back to what is in the standard quantal repositories?21:37
jbichatry something like sudo ppa-purge ppa:unity-team/staging21:39
seb128thumper, echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP?21:43
thumperseb128: Unity21:43
seb128thumper, ls .local/share/applications21:44
thumperfacebook, googleplus, mimeapps.list, sublime21:45
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seb128thumper, strace -f gnome-control-center background 2>&1 |grep gnome-background-panel.desktop -> pastebin?21:46
seb128thumper, I'm putting a beer on /usr/local21:48
seb128;-)21:48
thumperhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1622306/21:48
thumperseb128: does that mean I get a beer?21:49
seb128thumper, seems so :p21:49
thumperperhpas UDS21:49
thumperif I'm there...21:49
seb128yeah21:49
thumperit is oakland again isn't it?21:50
seb128thumper, do you have gnome-control-center-unity installed?21:50
seb128thumper, it's supposed to be, we didn't get confirmation yet though21:50
thumperseb128: yep, 1.2bzr11pkg0quantal021:50
thumperI've heard from high quality sources that it is...21:50
thumperbut I've not had official confirmation either21:51
seb128thumper, ok, so that's your issue, uninstall that package21:51
thumperseb128: I don't need it?21:51
seb128thumper, in raring we moved the unity's appearance to that package and unpatched gnome-control-center21:52
seb128but in quantal it's still in g-c-c21:52
seb128so it's duplicated for you21:52
thumperseb128: was a little frustrated when I got the new unity that removed workspaces, but the control centre I had didn't have the setting to enable it21:52
thumperah...21:52
thumperbut I'm guessing that my unity requres it?21:53
thumperas it is from the staging ppa?21:53
thumpersuch is the hazards of running the trunk I guess21:53
seb128thumper, it's only a recommends21:53
thumperok21:54
thumperseb128: thanks, looks good now21:55
jbichaseb128: https://uds.ubuntu.com/ says Oakland21:55
thumperbugger...21:56
thumperUDS is on the same week as my daughters camp21:56
thumperschool camp21:56
thumpercan't be a camp dad :(21:56
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