[00:00] <bin_bash> ^
[00:00] <bin_bash> quicker than me
[00:00] <fbdystang> backing it up
[00:00] <JennyBlueBird> Senjai, this is like back in the days when somebody showed me aptitude whiel I was using apt-get
[00:00] <fbdystang> Senjai: is that done in the regular instance or in the live cd instance?
[00:00] <Senjai> fbdystang: replace username and /mount/point with the username you want to own the dir, and mount point where its mounted
[00:00] <Senjai> fbdystang: whatever
[00:01] <Senjai> fbdystang: are you logged in as root on the cd?
[00:01] <krabador> how can i create an ubuntu live with working proprietary ati drivers?7
[00:01] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: lol, Im kinda new to the linux scene, just a fast learner
[00:01] <fbdystang> Senjai: hehe let me go check, it is on the server downstairs :)
[00:01] <ccvvcc> im trying to list .tar.gz "tar -zvft bla.tar.gz" i get tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label'  options list
[00:02] <escott> fbdystang, you should not be changing the owner of the root inode of your / filesystem
[00:02] <joshlegs> join ##club-ubuntu
[00:02] <JennyBlueBird> Senjai, hah, somebody just showed it to you I bet
[00:02] <joshlegs> oops
[00:02] <JennyBlueBird> Ok, now why do I have 30 firefox processes :S
[00:02] <Senjai> JennyBlueBird: no, as I have fresh eyes, I was on the hunt for new software. initiated people have settled with what they have.
[00:03] <Senjai> fbdystang: listen to escott actually.
[00:03] <escott> fbdystang, its not clear what you are trying to accomplish so its hard to know what is appropriate
[00:03] <Senjai> escott: then again escott, this is an auxillary drive.
[00:03] <Senjai> escott: hes not booting from it
[00:03] <Senjai> escott: its a backup
[00:04] <escott> Senjai, when did he say that?
[00:04] <fbdystang> ok it shows ubuntu@ubuntu at the live cd terminal
 fbdystang, what is your objective in copying it over
 fbdystang: sudo chown username /mount/point
 ^
 quicker than me
[00:04] <Senjai> <-- e11bits (~e11bits@koln-5d8103c0.pool.mediaWays.net) has quit (Quit: Good night and good luck)
[00:04] <FloodBot1> Senjai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 backing it up
[00:05] <Senjai> Sorry for the accidental post
[00:05] <Senjai> I meant the hotkey to auto pastebin it
[00:05] <escott> Senjai, ok. missed that response
[00:05] <fbdystang> I am trying to update my system with a few servers running on it. It currently has 11.04 and I would like to update. I would like to copy over my HD to a connected SATA RAID for backup in case I make stuff go wonky on the update
[00:05] <Senjai> escott: np! its always good to have many opinions anyway.
[00:05] <ccvvcc> im trying to list .tar.gz "tar -zvft bla.tar.gz" i get tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label'  options list
[00:06] <kalib> how to auto star a service with ubuntu?
[00:06] <Senjai> fbdystang: as long as you dont mess with the boot partition, chown username /dir/ or sudo chmod 111 /dir/ should work
[00:06] <sam___> hey I need to uninstall xbmc and all its plug ins in it. I used sudo apt-get remove xbmc and then I used sudo apt-get --purge remove xbmc. after reinstalling the programs the addons are still there . im lost need help
[00:07] <ccvvcc> google update-rc.d
[00:07] <sam___> sorry i used autoremove
[00:07] <daftykins> sam___: ask in #xbmc or google their wiki
[00:07] <fbdystang> Senjai: will that permenantly change the owner? Or just for the Live cd session?
[00:07] <kalib> ccvvcc: I tried update-rc.d mysql defaults
[00:07] <kalib> it's correct?
[00:08] <Senjai> fbdystang: it will change it permenantly until you change it back
[00:08] <Senjai> fbdystang: which you can do afterwards
[00:08] <Senjai> fbdystang: not the best way of doing things
[00:08] <Senjai> fbdystang: but it'd work
[00:08] <fbdystang> Senjai: I don't think that would work because I have a lot of different server files with differenct owners on them, would it change all those over as well?
[00:09] <Wug> hello #ubuntu
[00:09] <Senjai> fbdystang: shouldn't be recursive
[00:09] <ccvvcc> kalib, thats correct.
[00:09] <angryTarsiER> Hi Folks !
[00:09] <Senjai> fbdystang: check the man pages
[00:09] <Senjai> fbdystang: to make sure
[00:09] <fbdystang> Senjai: Is there a better way?
[00:10] <Wug> So I'm trying to install ubuntu from an iso without burning a disk, and I'm able to successfully boot from the iso, but it's ignoring the toram option and locking the drive the iso is on
[00:10] <ccvvcc> kalib, i hope you used sudo
[00:10] <Senjai> fbdystang: doing it while logged into the system
[00:10] <Senjai> fbdystang: and copying it over
[00:10] <Senjai> fbdystang: lol
[00:10] <Senjai> fb you should be able to copy anything with sudo
[00:10] <Senjai> fbdystang: i dont know what the issue is
[00:10] <Wug> I had to fiddle with the grub command line, let me pastebin what I think I used
[00:10] <ccvvcc> you can copy sudo with sudo!
[00:10] <fbdystang> Senjai: can I do that while logged into the same hd that I am booting from?
[00:11] <Senjai> fbdystang: your not changing any files, you're copying them
[00:11] <Senjai> so yes
[00:11] <Senjai> fbdystang: ignore the /proc/ files though
[00:11] <fbdystang> Senjai: OK, that would be a cool ninja trick, how is that done?
[00:11] <Senjai> with the cp command
[00:11] <Senjai> !cp | fbdystang
[00:11] <Senjai> No entry
[00:11] <Senjai> :/
[00:12] <Senjai> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_cp.htm
[00:12] <Senjai> You would need to use the -R flag.
[00:12] <fbdystang> Senjai: would gknautilus let me copy the entire hd over if I am logged into it for boot?
[00:13] <Senjai> fbdystang: why wouldnt it
[00:13] <Senjai> fbdystang: dont copy anything from /proc
[00:13] <Senjai> fbdystang: and you should be fine
[00:13] <fbdystang> So copy everything and delete /proc?
[00:13] <Senjai> fbdystang: dont delete proc
[00:14] <ttyX> why touch /proc at all
[00:14] <Senjai> fbdystang: dont touch it
[00:14] <Senjai> fbdystang: proc is where your processes are.
[00:14] <Senjai> fbdystang: its a fake filesystem
[00:14] <Senjai> fbdystang: ignore it
[00:14] <Senjai> fbdystang: Ubuntu populates it and cleans it up as the computer is run
[00:15] <fbdystang> yikes, let me see if I understand correctly. I login to my computer just like normal NOT live cd. Then I gksudo nautilus and copy my main hd over to my mapped SATA RAID. It should work and give no problems.
[00:15] <Wug> I think I had used a command like this to boot: http://pastebin.com/ZQmayBgr
[00:16] <Wug> not 100% sure
[00:16] <rigid> is there a way to get a list of recently installed packages?
[00:16] <Senjai> fbdystang: no offence, but if you need a graphical interface to do everything, Linux/GNU at its current state is probably not for you.
[00:16] <Wug> but I did that and it booted, I gathered from the kernel output that it was in fact loading the iso into memory
[00:17] <fbdystang> Senjai: hehe, i can do command line, I just do not want to change ALL the permissions back if I live cd
[00:17] <Wug> but when it finally dropped me into the GUI, the disk was in use and unmountable
[00:17] <Senjai> fbdystang: cp is the command line
[00:17] <Senjai> cp -R
[00:17] <daftykins> fbdystang: you're going to want to copy preserving permissions etc.
[00:17] <fbdystang> exactly, how do I type that in?
[00:17] <Senjai> fbdystang: i gave you a link, did you look at it
[00:18] <fbdystang> let me go back :)
[00:18] <Senjai> fbdystang: IM not going to give you EVERY answer, thats not how linux rolls. Ill help you figure out the problem.
[00:19] <fbdystang> Senjai: :)
[00:19] <Wug> nobody's ever tried to do this before?
[00:19] <Wug> wouldn't be such a damn problem if the iso for 12.10 fit on a cd
[00:20] <bin_bash> it's that big o.O
[00:21] <Tex_Nick> rigid : synaptic has a history function ... file/history
[00:21] <Wug> its like 780MB or something
[00:21] <bin_bash> jeez
[00:21] <JennyBlueBird> isn't there an alternate netinstall ?
[00:21] <Wug> should've left libreoffice calc out of it
[00:21] <bin_bash> !bloat
[00:21] <parabyte> Wug, be even better if it fit on 1.44mb floppies
[00:21] <JennyBlueBird> :P
[00:21] <parabyte> :)
[00:21] <dr_willis> !netinstall
[00:21] <rigid> Tex_Nick: i found dpkg.log but thanks :)
[00:22] <Senjai> Wug: most people just get a thumbdrive. its not expensive, or hard. Your making it really hard on yourself otherwise'
[00:22] <Tex_Nick> rigid : ahhh great :)
[00:22] <bin_bash> Senjai, some computers can't boot from that :P
[00:22] <Wug> Senjai: screw hardware
[00:22] <Senjai> bin_bash: fair enough.
[00:22] <Wug> this shouldn't be hard.  it really shouldn't be.  its 2013
[00:22] <Wug> I've got the booting part down
[00:22] <bin_bash> Wug, are you using a mac
[00:22] <Wug> no.
[00:22] <ttyX> optical media is dying anyways
[00:22] <fbdystang> Senjai: OK, cp -R should work, but how do I type a destination that is a mapped raid?
[00:23] <C_Clear> hey Dr. Willis pleasure to see you again. trying to followup on the media player question from last nite
[00:23] <dr_willis> any pc that cant boit from usb. due to age.. id guess wont run 12.10 well
[00:23] <bekks> fbdystang: Create a partition and filesystem on it, and mount it. Then copy data on it.
[00:23] <fbdystang> Senjai: better spoken, where does a mapped raid reside on directory tree?
[00:23] <Wug> im running ubuntu 12.04
[00:23] <bin_bash> dr_willis, it has nothign to do with age. the crapbook firmware won't boot from usb
[00:23] <Senjai> fbdystang: Your going to have to do some research
[00:23] <Wug> i brought a CD along because I thought it would fit but it doesnt
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: That's dependent on about a zillion things though.
[00:24] <bin_bash> dr_willis, I have a 2011 macbook pro. won't boot from USB
[00:24] <Senjai> fbdystang: from the sounds of things you dont understand how linux really works
[00:24] <Wug> my flash drives are all occupied with important things
[00:24] <Senjai> fbdystang: check out the linux system administrators guide on tldp.org
[00:24] <bin_bash> Wug, use the netinstall then
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I had a 2001 Gateway that wouldn't boot from USB and it runs Lubuntu 12.10 like a charm./
[00:24] <ttyX> install ubuntu server then
[00:24] <dr_willis> yu got a broke mac siunds like
[00:24] <ttyX> you can install gui afterwards
[00:24] <ttyX> :P
[00:24] <bin_bash> dr_willis, nope. I didn't. you just don't know what you're talking about.
[00:24] <Wug> I need to repartition.
[00:25] <bin_bash> Wug, install gentoo
[00:25] <Wug> I can't upgrade live, I dont have enough disk space
[00:25] <daftykins> Wug: use alternate install disc / net install
[00:25] <dr_willis> bin_bash: whatever theb
[00:25] <parabyte> your telling someone in a ubuntu chat room to install Gentoo
[00:25] <parabyte> lol
[00:25] <Wug> parabyte: its called trolling
[00:25] <ttyX> install arch its gentoo only better
[00:25] <bin_bash> parabyte, only because he didn't listen to me saying "use the netinstall"
[00:25]  * Wug flashes bin_bash's bios with gentoo
[00:25] <Apes> Arch linux is much easier than Gentoo. Use it instead.
[00:25] <whjms> forget gentoo. try lfs!
[00:26] <parabyte> actually i prefer anything based on debian
[00:26] <bin_bash> forget lfs, use suicide linux!
[00:26] <ttyX> then install debian
[00:26] <whjms> heh
[00:26] <sam___> using autoremove and apt-get purge --remove doesnot remove all configuration files and addons. how remove software with all its branches?
[00:26] <bin_bash> one wrong command? BOOM rm -rf
[00:26] <parabyte> lol Ubuntu debian same thing really
[00:26] <sam___> have this problem with two different softwares
[00:26] <bin_bash> parabyte, ubuntu is debiant with moar bloat
[00:26] <ttyX> parabyte: no they aren't
[00:26] <Wug> ok here's the magic im looking for
[00:26] <parabyte> i prefer Ubuntu on my desktop due to the more upto date media packages
[00:27] <C_Clear> Hey; been having problems watching videos on my media players. Got this error message in the sytem log after the last time the screen went blank on me: Could not open the following files:
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/Xorg.1.log: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/Xorg.1.log': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/user.log: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/user.log': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/lpr.log: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/lpr.log': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/mail.info: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/mail.info': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/mail.warn: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/mail.warn': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/daemon.log: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/daemon.log': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/debug: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/debug': No such file or directory
[00:27] <FloodBot1> C_Clear: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/messages: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/messages': No such file or directory
[00:27] <C_Clear> /var/log/pm-suspend.log: Error when getting information for file '/var/log/pm-suspend.log': No such file or directory
[00:27] <bin_bash> holy shit
[00:27] <parabyte> the error message is in the text you pasted
[00:27] <parabyte> if you cannot work that out
[00:27] <bin_bash> !give C_Clear pastie
[00:28] <parabyte> you should not use ubuntu or any computer
[00:28] <parabyte> any os
[00:28] <somsip> !helpful | parabyte
[00:28] <BeaBB> My Laptop isnt suspending when i close the my laptop, need help!(wm: i3)
[00:28] <somsip> parabyte: that sort of comment is not helpful.
[00:28] <Wug> why isn't there a way to install ubuntu with one functioning computer, one functioning linux installation, and zero additional hardware?
[00:28] <parabyte> somsip, neither is pasting whole bunch of nonsense into a chat room
[00:28] <Wug> why is there this mandatory icky flash drive thing
[00:28] <bin_bash> Wug, NET. INSTALL.
[00:28] <bin_bash> good god.
[00:29] <somsip> parabyte: Then please try to show yourself to be more helpful than others
[00:29] <C_Clear> parabyte that was great any helpful advice other than admonishment ?
[00:29] <bin_bash> C_Clear, lrn2pastebin
[00:29] <BeaBB> My Laptop isnt suspending when i close the laptop, need help!(wm: i3)
[00:29] <Apes> C_Clear: What does "ls -l /var/log" show?
[00:29] <Wug> bin_bash: that would have a requirement of a CD or flash drive, wouldnt it?
[00:29] <parabyte> C_Clear, maybe use tab auto complete in bash to find what your looking for
[00:29] <parabyte> maybe search?
[00:29] <Wug> like I said, I can't do it live; I need to repartition.
[00:29] <parabyte> locate command?
[00:29] <parabyte> lots of options to try
[00:29] <bin_bash> Wug, how are you going to repartition without a livecd?
[00:29] <bin_bash> praytell
[00:30] <bin_bash> does ubuntu use systemd yet?
[00:30] <parabyte> bin_bash, Ram Disk install of Ubuntu
[00:30] <parabyte> :P
[00:30] <Wug> bin_bash: well, the documentated option (that doesn't actually work) of loading an iso into memory would be cool
[00:30] <bekks> bin_bash: no, it doesnt.
[00:30] <bekks> bin_bash: ubuntu uses upstart
[00:31] <Apes> Upstart has all the cons of SystemD and all the Pros of SysV init.
[00:31] <Wug> my specific question if you'll recall is what I'm doing wrong with my grub commands that's preventing toram from working properly
[00:31] <BeaBB> My Laptop isnt suspending when i close the laptop, need help!(wm: i3)
[00:31] <bin_bash> Apes, oh that sounds lovely
[00:31] <bin_bash> BeaBB, did you try googling it
[00:31] <BeaBB> yes
[00:31] <bin_bash> it's in a config file somewhere
[00:32] <bin_bash> you can use gnome-tweaK-TOOLS if you want
[00:32] <bin_bash> http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[00:32] <bin_bash> but instead of nothing it would be suspend
[00:33] <bin_bash> :P
[00:33] <C_Clear> Apes; typed in the "ls -1/var/log" and got this: ls -1/var/log
[00:33] <C_Clear> ls: invalid option -- '/'
[00:33] <bin_bash> that's because
[00:33] <bin_bash> it's ls -l /var/log
[00:33] <dr_willis> C_Clear:  its an l nit a 1
[00:34] <bin_bash> and there's a space between l and /
[00:34] <BeaBB> bin_bash: th
[00:34] <BeaBB> x
[00:34] <bin_bash> np
[00:34] <bin_bash> I live to serve
[00:36] <C_Clear> got a result. any particular line or just the whole thing ?
[00:38] <dr_willis> do the files exist it was saying are missing?
[00:39] <fbdystang> Does nautilus allow copying and preserving ownership attributes like cp -P does?
[00:40] <hyprvx> Hello, I turned off Wireless on my laptop for a second and now I can't turn it back on, claims to be "disabled by hardware". There is no physical hardware switch, I run 12.04 with Gnome 3.
[00:40] <dr_willis> fbdystang: not that ive seen.
[00:40] <fbdystang> nuts :(
[00:40] <hyprvx> Restarting was my first try, and that didn't help.
[00:40] <Apes> C_Clear: Rerun it as "ls -la /var/log" and put it in gist.github.com
[00:41] <C_Clear> No. I don't think so. there is a xorg.0 showing but not  xorg.1
[00:42] <elky> whut?
[00:43] <Tex_Nick> for the past few weeks my isp bandwidth gradually drops off to about 10% between about 6:00 PM & 11:00 PM ... before i contact them i would likt to have a log of up & down speeds to provide them with ... anyone know of an off-the-shelf solution to test up & down speed every 15 minutes or so and log it ... i'm considering scripting something in bash but would don't want to do it if something already exists
[00:43] <Wug> Tex_Nick: iptraf might have the ability to do that
[00:43] <Wug> in order to get a reliable reading you'd need to run it on your router
[00:43] <Wug> which would be all kinds of not fun
[00:44] <hyprvx> Hello?
[00:44] <Wug> hyprvx: post make and model of laptop
[00:44] <hyprvx> wug: Dell Inspiron Mini 1018
[00:44] <hyprvx> inb4 netbooks suck
[00:45] <C_Clear> here you go Apes:  anonymous / gist:cad90d14d7717436c527
[00:45] <Tex_Nick> Wug : lol i understand ... i'll take a look at it though for reference at least ... thanks :-)
[00:45] <joshlegs> hyprvx, that happens  a lot for me. i have to restart sometimes3 or 4 times to get it working
[00:45] <joshlegs> i'd give it a couple more goes
[00:45] <brightknight> What multiping isnt packaged for ubuntu?
[00:45] <bin_bash> hyprvx, what's your problme?
[00:45] <brightknight> I need some network tools.
 Hello, I turned off Wireless on my laptop for a second and now I can't turn it back on, claims to be "disabled by hardware". There is no physical hardware switch, I run 12.04 with Gnome 3.
[00:46] <bin_bash> oh that sucks
[00:46] <joshlegs> seems to happen frequently for me on 12.04
[00:46] <bin_bash> which network manager do you use
[00:46] <Wug> hyprvx: have you tried fn+f2
[00:46] <hyprvx> bin_bash: Standard GNOME/Ubuntu
[00:47] <bin_bash> hyprvx, i don't use gnome. what network manager do you use?
[00:47] <hyprvx> wug: nothing happens
[00:48] <joshlegs> hyprvx, try restarting a couple more times. my guess is that it will fix in a bit.
[00:48] <Wug> hyprvx: supposedly that's the "hardware switch" for that model of laptop
[00:48] <brightknight> joshlegs: check bios
[00:48] <brightknight> joshlegs: or double check the function keys
[00:49] <joshlegs> fn+f2 doesnt usually help
[00:49] <joshlegs> but that is the hardware key for me too
[00:49] <joshlegs> bios might do something but ill have to check that some other time
[00:49] <hyprvx> bin_bash: the network manager is the default one
[00:49] <bin_bash> ok nevermind
[00:50] <dr_willis> !info rfkill
[00:50] <dr_willis> tried rfkill?
[00:51] <hyprvx> rfkill seems to do nothing at first
[00:52] <bigchuck1988> quick question.. if anybody can answer. -- there was a really simple script that you could add to SSH. basically you had to telnet to SSH and type in a password, before it added you to the SSH allow
[00:52] <bigchuck1988> anybody know the name of that script?
[00:53] <hyprvx> dr_willis: no idea how to use rfkill properly
[00:54] <Apes> C_Clear: You just need to post the URL for the gist :) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cad90d14d7717436c527
[00:55] <Apes> C_Clear: Your permissions seems fine. Those files are just genuinely missing.
[00:55] <C_Clear> Sorry about that If it isn't already apparent I'm new at this
[00:55] <C_Clear> so should I manually create logs or do something else to solve the problem of missing files ?
[00:56] <BillyZane> hi
[00:56] <BillyZane> When I go in to my home folder, I can't my network. However, I am able to connect to a computer on my network VIA VNC, thus there is communication
[00:57] <BillyZane> on my other computer, which is running windows 7, i can't see this computer on the network
[00:57] <hyprvx> bin_bash , dr_willis , joshlegs , and wug: nothing has worked to this point yet, any other things I could try?
[00:57] <bin_bash> well
[00:57] <bin_bash> you could reinstall the OS
[00:58] <joshlegs> i wouldnt do that
[00:58] <Wug> that seems ... excessive
[00:58] <joshlegs> ive literally had to restart 5 ties before to get it working
[00:58] <bin_bash> sounds like a problem wiht ubuntu
[00:58] <bin_bash> could try a different distro
[00:58] <joshlegs> ^
[00:58] <Wug> hyprvx: can you manually reload the driver
[00:58] <joshlegs> i think it's a bug
[00:59] <hyprvx> wug, joshlegs, and bin_bash: this driver came with Ubuntu
[00:59] <hyprvx> also dr_willis: the rfkill command seems to be useless
[00:59] <bin_bash> hyprvx, that means nothing. reload it.
[00:59] <hyprvx> reload, restart the process or just reinstall the driver?
[01:01] <hyprvx> aka does reloading the driver mean reinstalling or restarting the process?
[01:02] <apb1963__> how much hard drive space do I need to install Ubuntu?  I'm trying to create a virtual machine and then install Ubuntu.  Can I do it in 5GB?
[01:02] <aleksandar> yes
[01:02] <hyprvx> apb1963__: it will be limited but it will fit
[01:02] <bigchuck1988> apb1963: if you thin provision, it shouldnt matter.
[01:02] <joshlegs> apb1963__, i think 8 would probably be sufficient
[01:02] <SirClueless> so, my entire Gnome desktop just froze, anyone know how to debug that?
[01:02] <joshlegs> amazon ec2 instances default to 8, and ubuntu servr goes on there with room to spare
[01:03] <SirClueless> maybe a graphics driver issue
[01:03] <anon-01> SirClueless: Did you try rebooting it
[01:03] <joshlegs> ^
[01:03] <bigchuck1988> anybody? there was a simple script. sshd deny'd all and  when connections came into SSHD it would forward to the script for a password to add IP to hosts.allow. anybody know the name?
[01:03] <SirClueless> anon-01: i'm 100% sure that will fix it for a few hours
[01:03] <apb1963__> so 10 GB should be more than enough yes?  i want to load asterisk  & freepbx on it.
[01:03] <SirClueless> but this happens a lot
[01:03] <joshlegs> SirClueless, could be kernel issue. mine seemed to totally freeze a lot
[01:04] <anon-01> SirClueless: Ah, so it is not just a one time issue.
[01:04] <joshlegs> then the kernel updated and it hasnt done it since the kernel update before last
[01:04] <anon-01> Does anybody know how to make a loopback audio adapter on Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:04] <aleksandar> So guys, I am running most of my applications through x-forwarding my server. So how do I open a magnet link on my CLIENT to open a new torrent on my SERVER transmission?
[01:04] <SirClueless> i'm curious if there's a way to figure out what is wrong? i am talking to you guys from TTY #2
[01:04] <hyprvx> if it makes a difference, Network Settings always claims to have Airplane Mode on whenever I open it
[01:04] <SirClueless> TTY #1 has a movable mouse, but everything else is frozen
[01:04] <anon-01> I am trying to pipe the output of SDR# (a radio program) to audacity
[01:05] <anon-01> SirClueless: TTY has a mouse?
[01:05] <SirClueless> well, the graphical environment comes up when i hit ctrl+alt+f1
[01:05] <anon-01> that is odd.
[01:05] <fbdystang> How do I change user on command line in live cd?
[01:05] <SirClueless> and it's frozen
[01:05] <anon-01> fbdystang: use su to change user.
[01:06] <fbdystang> thats it? huh!
[01:06] <anon-01> fbdystang: but what user do you want to change to? It's a live cd.
[01:06] <hyprvx> FIRE FIRE
[01:06] <anon-01> fbdystang: you are normal, or root (for this: sudo -s
[01:06] <BillyZane> so like...
[01:07] <SirClueless> is there any way to, like, inspect running programs to find the bug?
[01:07] <BillyZane> i can't see my network
[01:07] <fbdystang> anan-01: thanks
[01:07] <anon-01> fbdystang: you are welcome
[01:07] <hyprvx> FIRE FIRE FIRE
[01:07] <anon-01> hyprvx: WHAT??????
[01:07] <SirClueless> i think it's just the unstable SNA acceleration with the Intel HD 4000
[01:07] <hyprvx> anon-01: nobody seemed to be responding
[01:07] <BillyZane> When I go in to my home folder, I can't see my network. However, I am able to connect to a computer on my network via VNC. How can I browse my network again?
[01:08] <BillyZane> is it possible to browse your network through terminal?
[01:08] <xangua> !patience | hyprvx
[01:08] <fbdystang> anon-01: I want to copy files and retain permissions. But it is on a 2nd drive that has permissions. So I need to be that user to cp to it
[01:09] <anon-01> BillyZane:  If you want to scan for hosts, use nmap. Else, just remember the machine name.
[01:09] <oldschool> hi does anyone know of a good program to use in ubuntu to make password protected file or folders
[01:09] <anon-01> fbdystang: neat.
[01:10] <PPPT> no wireless and wifi on ubuntu 10.04. can you help. google doesnt.
[01:10] <Ben64> PPPT: you should upgrade to 12.04
[01:10] <BillyZane> anon-01: if I know the machine name, do I just type it in to terminal?
[01:10] <PPPT> no
[01:10] <PPPT> i live 10.04
[01:10] <PPPT> like*
[01:10] <Ben64> PPPT: support ends in 2 months
[01:10] <anon-01> oldschool: Do you want to restrict access to a list of users (in which case you can use built in file permissions), or do you want to encrypt (in which case use GPG for files or [something] for full disk encryption)
[01:11] <PPPT> yes
[01:11] <PPPT> ben64, i know. but i still enjoy it, whilst i can..
[01:11] <anon-01> BillyZane: what service do you want to connect to on the server? SAMVA? CIFS? SSH? VNC?
[01:11] <anon-01> BillyZane: or do you just want to list the services available?
[01:11] <Ben64> PPPT: then get a wireless card that is supported
[01:11] <BillyZane> BillyZane: I was able to use VNC. What I want to do is browse my files and watch a movie
[01:12] <BillyZane> err
[01:12] <BillyZane> anon-01
[01:12] <PPPT> ben64, funny thing is that wired internet doesnt work at all too
[01:12] <anon-01> BillyZane: what server and os are you running on the server machine?
[01:12] <BillyZane> anon-01: I am able to VNC, but when I click on my file browser, there's usually a network tab. that tab is not there right now
[01:12] <anon-01> BillyZane: actually, just what is the os?
[01:12] <Ben64> PPPT: then how have you been using it for the past 3 years
[01:12] <anon-01> BillyZane: What is the OS on the server?
[01:12] <BillyZane> the OS is windows 7
[01:12] <bin_bash> windows 7 on a server?
[01:12] <BillyZane> this computer's OS is ubuntu 12.10
[01:12] <hyprvx> update: trying suggestions on the wiki and forum don't work at all
[01:13] <anon-01> BillyZane: Ah, you are trying to connect over windows file server, yes?
[01:13] <PPPT> ben64, on another laptop, that was older than the current one...
[01:13] <hyprvx> rfkill still lists hard and soft blocks on both
[01:13] <oldschool> anon-01 i just want to be able to password protected file or folders in ubuntu
[01:13] <BillyZane> anon-01: i'm not sure, but i think that sounds about right. I want to browse my files and watch a movie
[01:13] <Ben64> PPPT: then... get a new network card too?
[01:14] <anon-01> oldschool: for what? private files (dont tell me whats in them.)? comany data? to protect everything?
[01:14] <PPPT> no ithink it might be something to do with the drivers. been googling about downloading them and installing them offline..
[01:14] <anon-01> anon-01 do you need to enumerate (list) the share names from ubuntu, or just mount it?
[01:14] <Ben64> PPPT: yeah its probably drivers, which is why i said to get a card that is supported
[01:15] <anon-01> err, oldschool do you need to enumerate (list) the share names from ubuntu, or just mount it?
[01:15] <PPPT> it is standard one...
[01:15] <oldschool> anon-01 yeah comany data
[01:15] <PPPT> the wireless is atheros, works fine in xbuntu
[01:15] <anon-01> oldschool: ah. just you on the machine?
[01:15] <gdeeble> Just curious, does anyone have a decent tutorial about setting up Lirc Mouse Daemon with LXDE as the environment that they could share with me. I've been trying to find anything with that and I'm coming up short. :(
[01:15] <Ben64> PPPT: theres no difference from xubuntu to ubuntu, you must be doing something strange
[01:15] <PPPT> nope
[01:16] <BillyZane> anon-01: I did not have nmap installed, I just installed it. Going over the way to use it
[01:16] <anon-01> BillyZane: Try: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-can-i-scan-for-samba-shares-876721/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[01:16] <PPPT> i tried ubuntu 10.04 on my pc too, i cannot get wired internet at all, eventhough eth0 is present.
[01:16] <anon-01> BillyZane: nmap is not what you need
[01:16] <BillyZane> anon-01: thank you
[01:16] <Ben64> PPPT: you must be doing something strange then
[01:16] <BillyZane> ohh
[01:16] <hyprvx> I found a card which IS supported by Ubuntu by default, plugged it in, and Network Settings refuses to let me turn it on
[01:16] <anon-01> BillyZane: you already know what service to connect to: SAMBA
[01:17] <PPPT> ben64, i dont really. anyone any idea about getting .deb for atheros wifi and also get some audio too..
[01:17] <anon-01> BillyZane: I gave you a link for enumerating (listing) the share names on your server (win7), and one for mounting the shares.
[01:17] <anon-01> oldschool: Is it just you on the machine you want the protected files on?
[01:17] <BillyZane> anon-01: ok, i'll look in to it. thank you
[01:18] <anon-01> BillyZane: You're welcome. Glad to help.
[01:18] <oldschool> anon-01 no i want them to be password protectedon on the machine and even if i move them let say to my windows machine i still want them to be password protected
[01:18] <escott> !info gpg | oldschool
[01:19] <bin_bash> Where does canonical get these ridiculous names from?
[01:19] <anon-01> oldschool: For that, use GPG (even if you have to download it yourself), however, it will have to be used on each individual file.
[01:20] <escott> !info gnupg | oldschool
[01:20] <fbdystang> anon-01: whats the password for root on the live cd?
[01:20] <Ben64> fbdystang: use sudo
[01:20] <PoolShark_> hello
[01:20] <anon-01> fbdystang: probably not set. instead, use sudo -s instead of su -
[01:21] <fbdystang> sudo cd ?
[01:21] <anon-01> or, if you insist on su, use sudo su -
[01:21] <fbdystang> to change directory?
[01:21] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : lol ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[01:21] <Ben64> don't use sudo su
[01:21] <anon-01> fbdystang: run sudo -s
[01:21] <bin_bash> Ben64, why not
[01:21] <oldschool> anon-01 ok thanks
[01:21] <Ben64> sudo -i if you really need to be root
[01:21] <anon-01> fbdystang: you will get root shell
[01:21] <escott> anon-01, fbdystang sudo -i is a bit better than sudo -s
[01:21] <Ben64> bin_bash: because its bad
[01:21] <oldschool> ubottu ok thanks
[01:21] <PoolShark_> "because I said so" :p
[01:22] <marahin> "it's bad, mmkay"
[01:22] <marahin> ;)
[01:22] <fbdystang> escott thanks
[01:22] <anon-01> oldschool: What I would do - reinstall with 12.10. Enable full disk encryption. This will secure almost all files on the computer. if you shut off, will need ppass on boot
[01:22] <anon-01> escott: what is the difference
[01:22] <hyprvx> Airplane mode stays on even when I turn it off
[01:22] <dr_willis> it may or may not give a proper bash enviroment
[01:22] <anon-01> ooldschool: your weolcom
[01:22] <bin_bash> Ben64, why?
[01:22] <fbdystang> escott: yea what is the difference?
[01:22] <bin_bash> Ben64, su - is better
[01:22] <anon-01> dr_willis: ill try to remember that
[01:22] <Ben64> bin_bash: no, its not
[01:22] <bin_bash> yes it is
[01:22] <dr_willis> su -   will NOT work on ubuntu
[01:22] <C_Clear> So just wanted to follow up on a question I asked earlier. after the last time my video froze this error message came up in the system log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1618456/  Any way to create the missing files or is there another solution or problem that needs to be addressed ?
[01:23] <anon-01> bin_bash, Ben64, dr_willis you will need sudo su -. that should work
[01:23] <Ben64> it's been explained countless times in this channel, use "sudo -i" if you must, don't use sudo su
[01:23] <bin_bash> su - is better than sudo su, imo
[01:23] <escott> anon-01, fbdystang sudo -i will run a login shell and replace environment variables, sudo -s will just exec the shell with root privs. if you have something in your $PATH it will stay in your path with sudo -s. thats undesirable generally
[01:23] <anon-01> bin_bash, Ben64, dr_willis: i just tested it
[01:23] <dr_willis> anon-01:  and we are baack to 'use sudo -s' like you shoiuld be
[01:23]  * PoolShark_ grabs the popcorn
[01:23] <dr_willis> anon-01:  and  the enviroment settings may or may not be what you intended....
[01:24] <anon-01> bin_bash, Ben64, dr_willis: OK. THanks
[01:24] <fbdystang> escott: great explanation :)
[01:24] <oldschool> anon-01 ok thanks
[01:24] <anon-01> Does anybody know how to do a loopback adapter for audio?
[01:25] <adamk> anon-01: Define "loopback adapter"
[01:25] <PoolShark_> I just log in as root if I need to be root
[01:25] <Ben64> PoolShark_: that isn't recommended either
[01:25] <escott> anon-01, fbdystang ill note that this is different on fedora systems... theirs are setup for a su usage and it seems that on fedora sudo su - is better than sudo -i for those systems
[01:25] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  direct logging in as root - is also disabled in ubuntu
[01:25] <xyl> sudo passwd -u root
[01:25] <bin_bash> dr_willis, you can enable it if you want though
[01:25] <Ben64> xyl: please don't suggest that
[01:26] <dr_willis> bin_bash:  and thats explicity NOT reccomended or supported by Ubuntu or this channel
[01:26] <PoolShark_> of course it's not recommended
[01:26] <escott> xyl, those who know how to do that don't need to ask. those who don't know would end up shooting themselves in the foot if they did. thats why we dont tell people
[01:26] <bin_bash> dr_willis why is that? Because the users are stupid?
[01:26] <anon-01> adamk: I set source program to output to $loopback_adapter (like its a speaker). That output is then sent to Audacity, which uses  $loopback_adapter like a mic to recieve the information that was sent from the source program.
[01:26] <xyl> why?if you want to login with root
[01:26] <dr_willis> the proper method is to use sudo as needed
[01:27] <Ben64> i don't understand what is so hard about sudo, why do so many people want to be root all the time
[01:27] <adamk> anon-01: configure pulseaudio to load module-null-sink (I think it's in /etc/pulse/default/pa, just commented out by default).
[01:27] <iceroot> there is no single reason to login as root directly instead of using sudo
[01:27] <PoolShark_> yep
[01:27] <bin_bash> If you're the only one using a system, and someone gets access to your acount via your password, Ben64, then they automatically have root access.
[01:27] <anon-01> admk: thanks, ill try
[01:27] <dr_willis> proper practice and habbits help insure a stable ssytem
[01:27] <adamk> anon-01: Restart PA, then use pavucontrol to direct the output to the null device, and configure audacity to record from the monitor of that null audio device.
[01:28] <anon-01> adamk: pavucontrol?
[01:28] <PoolShark_> ensure
[01:28] <PoolShark_> State Farm insures my system. I ensure the stability of it.
[01:28] <adamk> anon-01: Nice utility to selecting audio devices and volume levels in PA.
[01:28] <iceroot> bin_bash: if you are the only one on a system and using a root-shell directly, normally you will ask here "how to fix my system because i killed something because i am root" or "why am i hacked because i execute everything as root"
[01:28] <bin_bash> iceroot, only if you're a retard
[01:28] <bin_bash> in which case
[01:28] <anon-01> adamk: how do I load a module?
[01:28] <iceroot> bin_bash: not using root directly is a protection for the normal user
[01:28] <bin_bash> you deserved whatever you did
[01:29] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: hear hear
[01:29] <adamk> anon-01: Just uncomment the line in /etc/pulse/default.pa that mentions module-null-sink and restart pulseaudio.
[01:29] <iceroot> bin_bash: you are free to do with your system what you want but we dont support/suggest a root-shell
[01:29] <bin_bash> Look, if you don't learn the proper way to use root, then you shouldn't use linux at all. depending on sudo entirely is like using crutches
[01:29] <Ben64> everyone should drop the attitude. if you don't like how ubuntu uses root, then don't use it, and don't suggest it here
[01:29] <anon-01> admk: ocka, thanks
[01:29] <iceroot> Ben64: +1
[01:31] <dr_willis> sudo is another bit of protection to the security layers in place.
[01:31] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : have a look at ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:32] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, sudo apt-get purge sudo
[01:32] <Ben64> bin_bash: stop
[01:32] <iceroot> bin_bash: you have a support question? or just stupid trolling?
[01:32] <bin_bash> iceroot, I've been helping people, fyi
[01:33] <iceroot> bin_bash: i just see trolling but ok
[01:33] <Ben64> not in recent memory
[01:34] <escott> !danger
[01:34] <Tex_Nick> !kidding | bin_bash
[01:35] <Ben64> out of 149 lines of text you have typed in this channel,  3 have been constructive
[01:35] <dr_willis> Ben64:   ;) i lost count...
[01:35] <fox_wilson> Ben64: Wow, that was impressive :)
[01:35] <anon-01> !thanks | Ben64
[01:35] <PoolShark_> interesting
[01:36] <anon-01> #oops - wrong invocation
[01:37] <PoolShark_> I need rum
[01:38] <anon-01> http://www.reddit.com/user/rum_rum
[01:38] <anon-01> PoolShark_
[01:38] <PoolShark_> ?
[01:38] <anon-01> read the rum
[01:38] <Ben64> !ot
[01:39] <anon-01> Ben64: ACK
[01:39] <Noont> Hi! I'm trying to upgrade to 13.04, but I've got a problem - do-release-upgrade -d crashes and update-manager -d says 13.04 is available and then retursn with no new versions
[01:40] <Ben64> Noont: #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <anon-01> 13.04?
[01:40] <Noont> Ah, ok
[01:40] <bin_bash> i do have a srs question though
[01:40] <anon-01> Ben64: is 13.04 the dev version?
[01:40] <bin_bash> has anyone had any success getting audio out via the thunderbolt port on macbooks?
[01:41] <Ben64> ubuntu versions are year.month, so 13.04 = 2013.04 = April 2013, which is in the future
[01:41] <anon-01> Ben64: ah.
[01:42] <alanoris> hi
[01:42] <bin_bash> hi
[01:42] <alanoris> i need help
[01:42] <escott> anon-01, and 13.04 will come out probably towards the end of the month. so dont go looking on april 1st
[01:42] <anon-01> alanoris: hi
[01:42] <bin_bash> !ask | alanoris
[01:42] <datsmoida> does it make sense that if my vps has so much processor allotted some program would just hang and not run if it's maxed
[01:42] <anon-01> escott: ACK
[01:42] <alanoris> i can ask question because i can
[01:43] <silvereye> datsmoida, yes
[01:43] <alanoris> how can i find some good porn pictures in my browser? it seems i can not find any there thank you
[01:43] <datsmoida> what is the best thing more processor or ram
[01:43] <PoolShark_> lolwut?
[01:43] <Ben64> alanoris: no, wrong channel, go away
[01:43] <anon-01> !ot | alanoris
[01:43] <bin_bash> loltroll
[01:43] <anon-01> !inappropriate | alanoris
[01:43] <PoolShark_> if you need help finding internet porn, maybe the internet isn't for you haha
[01:43] <bin_bash> !troll | alanoris
[01:43] <silvereye> datsmoida, depends on whether you are out of ram or out of cpu time
[01:44] <datsmoida> how to test
[01:44] <alanoris> and where should i go?
[01:44] <bin_bash> alanoris, how about #care
[01:44] <escott> datsmoida, no single best. depends on what your options are and what you will be using the computer for
[01:44] <alanoris> i search google for pussy but i dont see any there
[01:44] <anon-01> !ot | alanoris
[01:44] <anon-01> !inappropriate | alanoris
[01:44] <datsmoida> using it to run perl scripts and tor
[01:44] <Hoyt> The panel pops up when you press Meta key, what's the name of it?
[01:44] <alanoris> ok childs i ask somewhere else
[01:44] <lundy> how can i put a different wallpaper on each workspace?
[01:45] <alanoris> wtf is ubuntu
[01:45] <Hoyt> the lens or what
[01:45] <Hoyt> Can't remember the jargon
[01:45] <Noont> Hoyt: the dash
[01:45] <fas> alanoris: an operating system
[01:45] <silvereye> datsmoida, "top" in a console window should tell you how much ram is left over and how much cpu time is in use
[01:45] <alanoris> not interested
[01:45] <Hoyt> okay, the dash, how can I install a calculator plugin for it?
[01:45] <fas> alanoris: then leave
[01:45] <anon-01> alanoris: An OS. Like WIndows XP, except with less viruses.
[01:45] <alanoris> i like windows 7 it is best
[01:45] <Hoyt> I mean, instead of putting the name of application, I want to put a formula, i.e 3*3
[01:45] <fox_wilson> alanoris: This is an _ubuntu_ discussion channel.
[01:45] <anon-01> !go_away | alanoris
[01:45] <Hoyt> And get the result
[01:45] <Ben64> don't need to feed the trolls everyone
[01:46] <anon-01> Ben64: ACK
[01:46] <Noont> Hoyt: there's a scope for that, but it's not available for 12.10
[01:46] <anon-01> Ben64: Oops.
[01:46] <lundy> how can i put a different wallpaper on each workspace?
[01:46] <Hoyt> Noont: package name?
[01:46] <Noont> Gimme a second and I'll have it
[01:46] <bin_bash> lundy, I don't think you can
[01:46] <fbdystang> escott: sudo -i, then cp -RP is copying and leaving "root" as the owner. Thus not preserving attributes. What am I doing wrong?
[01:46] <fas> lundy: I think that requires a special program. I don't think it's possible under normal circumstances
[01:47] <lundy> KK google time
[01:47] <fas> lundy: but I'm sure there are programs to allow you to, I just don't know any off the top of my head
[01:47] <datsmoida> Cpu(s):  4.8%us,  4.8%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id, 90.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[01:47] <datsmoida> Mem:    244284k total,   241176k used,     3108k free,      260k buffers
[01:47] <escott> fbdystang, cp -aR
[01:47] <Noont> Hoyt: unity-scope-calculator, you'll need to find a ppa for it or compile/install yourself
[01:47] <datsmoida> must be that 90%
[01:47] <fbdystang> escott: what does the -a do?
[01:47] <escott> fbdystang, -P is not -p. the -P has to do with symlinks. -a is better anyways
[01:47] <datsmoida> it fluctuates between 90 and 98
[01:47] <datsmoida> what is wa
[01:47] <Ben64> fbdystang: from the cp manual, -a, --archive              same as -dR --preserve=all
[01:48] <escott> fbdystang, and  -p                           same as --preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps
[01:48] <fbdystang> got it, thanks guys :)
[01:48]  * anon-01 intends to leave the chanel.
[01:49] <silvereye> datsmoida, so the answer is you have 3 megabytes ram left over and very little free cpu time. You need a faster cpu and more ram. Or a co-processed ethernet card for your vpn
[01:49] <fbdystang> isn't R in the -aR redundant?
[01:49] <Ben64> appears to be
[01:49] <escott> fbdystang, -R is recursive (ie subdirs too)
[01:49] <Ubunt00> i is a newb 2 ubunt2
[01:49] <datsmoida> silvereye - can't i just upgrade to more ram and /or cpu
[01:49] <escott> fbdystang, and in this case -R is the same as -r
[01:49] <datsmoida> or am i blowing it up
[01:49] <datsmoida> my program eventually started, like 5 minutes later
[01:50] <datsmoida> this is just in command line
[01:50] <escott> datsmoida, wa is io-wait time. ie waiting for a packet from a remote server or a file read
[01:50] <Ben64> datsmoida: if i'm reading that correctly, most of your cpu is going to iowait
[01:50] <escott> datsmoida, aka idle
[01:50] <fbdystang> -a == -dpR so the R is redundant in -aR
[01:50] <escott> fbdystang, yes. didn't notice that before but yes
[01:50] <silvereye> datsmoida, no, you need both. 256mb system ram isn't enough to run a vpn, and what kind of cpu do you have?
[01:51] <escott> fbdystang, another one to throw on is -x for one-file-system
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> Ubunt00:  if you have a support question, please ask :)
[01:52] <datsmoida> i am planning to upgrade it
[01:52] <fbdystang> escott: yea I am just reading about the -x, wouldn't work for me since I am jumping filesystems
[01:52] <datsmoida> i don't know, one half core i think, whatever that is
[01:53] <C_Clear> alright off for the nite. thanks for the assistance
[01:53] <bin_bash> Is it against the ubuntu way to boot to runlevel 3?
[01:53] <escott> fbdystang, you are archiving /. why would you be jumping filesystems?
[01:53] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: why wouldn't it be?
[01:53] <dr_willis> ! text
[01:53] <silvereye> datsmoida, there are some ethernet cards that are coprocessed and can do the vpn calculations for the system
[01:53] <bin_bash> PoolShark_, idk. seems a lot of things are.
[01:53] <escott> fbdystang, its most useful for ensuring you dont grap special filesystems like /proc or /sys or ~/.gvfs etc
[01:53] <Tex_Nick> datsmoida:  a half-core cpu @^@
[01:54] <escott> !runlevel | bin_bash
[01:54] <bin_bash> wtf is upstart
[01:54] <Ben64> !upstart
[01:54] <dr_willis> ! manual
[01:54] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: it probably doesn't matter since Debian consolidates 2-5 into the same damn thing
[01:55] <bin_bash> A good troll would be to set someone's init to runlevel 6
[01:55] <bin_bash> so anytime they booted it'd reboot
[01:55] <silvereye> that would be mean
[01:55] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: that used to be a common joke in #linux many many years ago
[01:55] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: we're talking 1995-ish
[01:55] <bin_bash> PoolShark_, yeah I know lol
[01:56] <Ben64> enough with the offtopic, if you have a support question ask it, otherwise be quiet or leave
[01:56] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: "rm -rf /" too
[01:56] <Ben64> !danger
[01:56] <dr_willis> that no longer works I recall
[01:56] <bin_bash> dr_willis, what doesn;t?
[01:57] <escott> and its safe for everyone but bin_bash who likes to login as root
[01:57] <dr_willis> the rm ...... trick
[01:57] <bin_bash> dr_willis, yes, it definitely works. but you have to do --no-preserve root
[01:57] <bin_bash> --no-preserve-root*
[01:57] <fox_wilson> bin_bash: *sigh* that's a very bad idea though
[01:57] <dr_willis> so as I said.. as written it dont work..
[01:58] <bin_bash> dr_willis, it does. It just doesn't remove /everything/
[01:58] <bin_bash> just most things
[01:58] <elky> bin_bash, does it handily tell you this when you try?
[01:58] <bin_bash> elky, idk. I'm not stupid.
[01:58]  * dr_willis go back on topic
[02:00] <chaotix> hey...  what should i format a usb stick to before making a persistant ubuntu usb live usb?
[02:01] <chaotix> ntfs or ext4 or fat?
[02:01] <fox_wilson> chaotix: I believe it's FAT.
[02:01] <dustin> chaotix, you ext4
[02:01] <fox_wilson> dustin: Will ext4 boot though?
[02:01] <phunyguy> why wouldn't it?
[02:01] <dustin> fox_wilson, mine does
[02:01] <bin_bash> chaotix, ext4
[02:02] <chaotix> i just found something that says i should use fat...  i always thought ext4 though
[02:02] <fox_wilson> dustin: Oh wait, I just forgot everything I knew about the boot process. Nevermind
[02:02] <chaotix> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:02] <gelph> that's an interesting question -- the bootloader is partition-level code -- prior to filesystems being loaded, right?
[02:02] <Ben64> !persistence
[02:02] <Tex_Nick> People ... PLEASE be careful what you post here ... your jokes can cause new users to crash their PC's ... might seem funny to you ... not to them :-(
[02:02] <fox_wilson> gelph: I think so.
[02:03] <fox_wilson> I don't believe it's partition-specific, it's the scheme of the partition table that changes the boot sector... right?
[02:03] <Dni> hi, does anybody know how can I turn the gui on and off to free the hardware resources when needed?
[02:03] <gelph> "whoosh" the sound of high-level information flying over our heads
[02:04] <fox_wilson> Dni: What do you mean exactly? As in logging in directly into a console?
[02:04] <phunyguy> Dni, select a different runlevel, but I dont know which off the top of my head
[02:04] <phunyguy> (i think)
[02:05] <bin_bash> Dni, boot to runlevel 3
[02:05] <phunyguy> or sudo service lightdm stop
[02:05] <guideX> what's the chance of getting ubuntu 12.10 to run on my asus eee slate tabletpc?
[02:05] <phunyguy> (Dni)
[02:05] <Dni> Actually I am pretty new to linux era, could you please explain more?
[02:05] <Ben64> bin_bash: we just went over the runlevels, that doesn't work
[02:05] <gelph> Dni: as root: "telinit 3"
[02:05] <bin_bash> Ben64, why doesn't it work?
[02:05] <bin_bash> It should.
[02:05] <Ben64> gelph: doesn't work
[02:06] <Dni> gelph: should I then restart my computer?
[02:06] <phunyguy> Dni, ctrl-alt-f1, then login, and sudo service lightdm stop
[02:06] <phunyguy> thats all
[02:06] <Ben64> !runlevels | bin_bash, Dni, gelph
[02:06] <phunyguy> to get gui back, sudo service lightdm start
[02:06] <bin_bash> welp that's offensive
[02:06] <gelph> <<double face palm>>
[02:07] <Dni> what do you mean by runlevels?
[02:08] <Dni> !ping | phunyguy
[02:08] <Dni> could you please explain a little more
[02:08] <dustin> fox_wilson, my appologies you are correct I found and inserted my live drive it is fat32 it has been a while since I last used it
[02:08] <Ben64> Dni: what are the specs of your computer
[02:08] <gelph> Dni runlevels used to be these incrementing levels of how many things are running, and going back a level or two you'd stop just the display manager, but no longer true
[02:09] <fox_wilson> dustin: Don't worry about it. I'm still curious as to whether or not it would work... the boot process is so confusing sometimes :)
[02:09] <Dni> Ben64: I have Dell Studio 1555 laptop and the fan is always working, I do afraid it will burn soon
[02:09] <phunyguy> errmm...
[02:09] <dustin> fox_wilson, my main drives are all ext4 so I would have to say that it "should" work
[02:09] <phunyguy> Dni?
[02:10] <gelph> Dni there's a big deal about controlling cpu intensity and throttling it back when not needed, maybe you don't have that going
[02:10] <Dni> phunyguy: would you please explain a little more.
[02:10] <Ben64> Dni: check to see if cpu scaling is working (if the cpu clocks itself down when idle to save power and temperature)
[02:10] <phunyguy> explain what? They said runlevels didnt work
[02:10] <Dni> Ben64: how can I check that?
[02:10] <Ben64> phunyguy: i think he means about lightdm service
[02:11] <Dni> Ben64: Actually when no program is running the fan is also working with lots of noise. before I did not have such experience.
[02:11] <Ben64> Dni: "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz" will show the current cpu speed
[02:11] <phunyguy> Dni, pay attention to Ben64.  He is dependable.
[02:11] <Ben64> like mine says 800mhz now
[02:11] <phunyguy> sounds like you have deeper seeded issues.
[02:12] <Ben64> but it will go up to 2700mhz when called for it
[02:12] <Dni> Ben64: both are 2800.000
[02:12] <Ben64> what cpu?
[02:12] <phunyguy> yeah Dni, throttling isn't working for you
[02:12] <Dni> phunyguy: Thanks
[02:12] <PoolShark_> hrmmm... that returns 6 measurements... which one is correct?
[02:12] <gelph> all 6?
[02:12] <Ben64> PoolShark_: that means you have 6 cores
[02:12] <Dni> Ben64: It is intel
[02:12] <Ben64> Dni: you might have to enable it in the bios
[02:12] <dr_willis> hexa-coer
[02:13] <Dni> Ben64: What should I enable?
[02:13] <PoolShark_> what timebase is used as a reference to make that measurement?
[02:13] <Ben64> i don't know, every bios isn't the same
[02:13] <Dni> Ben64: I mean the category which I should take a look
[02:13] <Ben64> Dni: yeah, still not sure where it'd be on a dell
[02:13] <dr_willis> power saveing. preformance mode, throtteling
[02:13] <gelph> The cpufreqd and indicator-cpufreq packages come up in my searching
[02:14] <gelph> cpufreqd - fully configurable daemon for dynamic frequency and voltage scaling
[02:14] <dustin> has anyone here used cpu scaling with an OC processor? wondering if it just shows the upped scale or if the throttling is turned off?
[02:14] <Dni> gelph: Should I install these packages?
[02:15] <gelph> no experience with them, but they are the starting point
[02:15] <Dni> Ben64: Any help is highly appreciated, as I have chosen linux recently
[02:15] <gelph> Try this command: apt-cache show cpufreqd
[02:15] <gelph> It shows you the basic info about that package
[02:16] <gelph> It shows you the home page, and hardware requirements
[02:16] <dr_willis> in my bios's ive seen differnt power plans. such as 'power saveing, desktop, gameing' where theý differ in how much they let the cpu throttle down
[02:17] <Dni> gelph: I ran that, and it generated many output
[02:17] <Dni> dr_willis: I have not such thing
[02:23] <rsingh> Hi everybody, I'm looking for some help with keepassx.  I want it to open up a new firefox-trunk tab if Firefox is already running, and if not, I want it to start up the browser when I select "Open URL" in the context menu
[02:24] <gelph> rsingh here are some great command-line arguments to configure keepassx with: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments
[02:24] <Coded1> anyone got the amd catalyst 13.2 beta 3 drivers working?  I tried installing it on 13.04 but it can't seem to find "version.h"
[02:25] <gelph> Coded1 I think you need linux-headers package (half-way guessing)
[02:25] <phunyguy> Coded1, "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[02:25] <phunyguy> without quotes
[02:25] <AlexPearce> minix
[02:26] <phunyguy> Coded1, anything after that you can probably get a better answer in #ubuntu+1
[02:26] <Brewster> hey has anyone managet to get ubuntuone on backtrack?
[02:26] <Brewster> managed*
[02:27] <Ben64> Brewster: we can't support backtrack here
[02:27] <Coded1> ya I installed the headers, I'll give +1 a shot
[02:27] <phunyguy> !backtrack
[02:27] <Brewster> ;c
[02:27] <Brewster> there isn't anyone in #backtrack-linux
[02:28] <phunyguy> Brewster, not our problem.
[02:28] <Brewster> just thought that would be worth pointing out
[02:28] <phunyguy> (sorry, I know that was rough)
[02:28] <Brewster> lol
[02:28] <Brewster> it's fine
[02:28] <bin_bash> you should support backtrack if you support lubuntu or xubuntu or any f the others
[02:28] <phunyguy> well we should be understanding here..
[02:28] <phunyguy> backtrack isnt a supported distro.
[02:29] <Brewster> is there like a git repo that I can compile ubuntuone from source?
[02:29] <phunyguy> Brewster, sorry, cannot discuss any further.
[02:29] <Brewster> *gasp*
[02:29] <Brewster> ubuntuone is part of ubuntu
[02:29] <phunyguy> yes, and installs on ubuntu without a compile.
[02:29] <Ben64> backtrack isnt
[02:30] <Brewster> [20:29:11] <Brewster> is there like a git repo that I can compile ubuntuone from source? <- I don't see backtrack in that question
[02:30] <Tex_Nick> Brewster : keep asking in #backtrack-linux ... there are some great guru's that pop in & out of there ờᴗớ
[02:30] <Brewster> haha hillarious
[02:30] <Brewster> there's nobody in there
[02:30] <phunyguy> !ot | Brewster
[02:30] <Ben64> then don't use it
[02:31] <symetrik> oops
[02:31] <Brewster> oh wait what
[02:31] <symetrik> trying to reach #shitOS
[02:31] <symetrik> guess this works
[02:31] <remanifest> gelph: Thanks!
[02:31] <FloodBot1> symetrik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <Brewster> ok thanks
[02:31] <phunyguy> !language | symetrik
[02:31] <symetrik> oh sorry.
[02:32] <symetrik> I meant I was trying to reach #ratherbadOSthatisoverusedbecausepeoplethinkitisgoodforsomethingotherthanmarketingtothelowerIQofourpopulation
[02:32] <symetrik> <3
[02:32] <symetrik> didn't mean to swear
[02:33] <PoolShark_> oh interesting
[02:33] <symetrik> also, 3 messages in a 9 second fragment isn't flooding.
[02:33] <symetrik> I'd advise someone fix your irc bot
[02:33] <remanifest> Ehhh, unfortunately it's still not working
[02:33] <demarco> i just installed 12.10 and i have no wireless connection
[02:33] <MrF> demarco
[02:34] <MrF> You have a laptop yeah?
[02:34] <demarco> yeah
[02:34] <MrF> model/manufact
[02:37] <iron_man> hello
[02:37] <iron_man> is anyone here
[02:37] <fbdystang> no
[02:37] <iron_man> hahah ok
[02:37] <fox_wilson> iron_man: Yes, do you have a question?
[02:37] <bravis> only 1600 or so
[02:37] <fox_wilson> bravis: Indeed :D
[02:38] <iron_man> i just downloaded mIRC and im just trying to find reimu.hakurei
[02:38] <iron_man> he has a server and he chats on x-chat
[02:38] <bravis> setting stuff up back later
[02:38] <iron_man> i dont know how to search for him on here
[02:39] <fbdystang> wanted to thank escott for his genius helping me, but looks like he has already split
[02:39] <fox_wilson> iron_man: If he is on Freenode, then you could try to /msg reimu.hakurei yourmsg. However, please note that this channel is for discussion of Ubuntu, and questions regarding Freenode itself should be directed towards #freenode.
[02:40] <LennaLinux> hello everybody
[02:40] <LennaLinux> I wonder who here knows a bit more about the minix filesystem. Anyone have a link? suggestions?
[02:40] <bazhang> LennaLinux, thats not on topic here
[02:40] <fox_wilson> LennaLinux: perhaps try ##linux?
[02:41] <RustyShackleford> what package is Ubuntu family fonts in?
[02:41] <RustyShackleford> I installed a minimal ubuntu server, and those fonts don't seem to be installed
[02:41] <fox_wilson> RustyShackleford: Looks like ttf-ubuntu-font-family
[02:41] <demarco> hey all, wireless is not working on my dell inspiron 1501, which is a laptop
[02:41] <fox_wilson> RustyShackleford: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/fonts/ttf-ubuntu-font-family
[02:42] <bazhang> !wifi | demarco have a read
[02:42] <MrF> demarco: you will probably need to go find your own wifi drivers
[02:42] <fox_wilson> Wow that bot is useful :)
[02:42] <LennaLinux> bazhang , I know that, I just want help, not that I will develop the subject in this channel
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> LennaLinux:  minix has a channel on freenode #minix ... few ppl there though
[02:43] <AntumDeluge> demarco, did you try going to "Additional Drivers" under "System" in the menu?
[02:43] <LennaLinux> thank you Tex_Nick
[02:43] <MrF> demarco: you'll want to check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975503
[02:44] <bin_bash> Hi Uuni
[02:44] <Uuni> Hi
[02:44] <RustyShackleford> fox_wilson, perfect, thank you
[02:44] <Uuni> whoa
[02:44] <Uuni> RustyShackleford,
[02:44] <RustyShackleford> I was on the web page for Ubuntu Font Family
[02:44] <fox_wilson> RustyShackleford: No problem :)
[02:44] <Uuni> It's me, spenny1515
[02:44] <RustyShackleford> couldnt find the damn package name
[02:44] <Tex_Nick> LennaLinux:  also this might help ... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CEEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minix3.org%2Fdoc%2Fgerofi_thesis.pdf&ei=zBQTUcnMLIz8yAGiqoFA&usg=AFQjCNH-Ux2R2B83Wh8jpTb2zjckRekxHg&bvm=bv.41867550,bs.1,d.b2I&cad=rja
[02:45] <PoolShark_> so here's a strange problem... I have some fortran code that I wrote that does a hybrid moment-method/physical-optics numerical evaluation of scattering analysis, and when I compile it on the ubuntu box I get an interior resonance condition that I don't get on Redhat or Solaris. What's even weirder is that I can get it to work reasonably well on Ubuntu if I limit myself to using only a Gauss-Legendre approach to evaluating the complex integra
[02:45] <bin_bash> Hm. You've tried it with the same parameters on both Redhat and Solaris?
[02:45] <gelph> PoolShark_ if you put your hand over the fan on your computer, does the interior resonance condition get louder or quieter?
[02:45] <Uuni> RustyShackleford, it's me! Spenny1515
[02:45] <Tex_Nick> LennaLinux:  sorry bout the google link ... kinda long :(
[02:46] <fox_wilson> PoolShark_: that wasn't serious was it :D
[02:46] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: Yes, the same parameters... in fact I just tried it with a simple object - a spherical orb...
[02:46] <mojtaba> Hi, I have just installed linux mint on my laptop and when even no program is running, my fan is working very hard and I afraid it will burn. Does anybody know what should I do? (I did not have this problem in win7. :( )
[02:46] <phunyguy> !mint | mojtaba
[02:46] <IdleOne> !mint | mojtaba
[02:47] <bazhang> mojtaba, mint is not supported here
[02:47] <mojtaba> jo
[02:47] <PoolShark_> so there shouldn't have been any special corner singularities or anything that would cause a poorly-conditioned matrix, and in fact a reference solution for an infinite cylinder even comes up resonant on ubuntu... it's really strange
[02:47] <RustyShackleford> Uuni, you must be thinking of a different RustyShackleford
[02:47] <mojtaba> Hi, I have just installed linux mint on my laptop and when even no program is running, my fan is working very hard and I afraid it will burn. Does anybody know what should I do? (I did not have this problem in win7. :( )
[02:47] <RustyShackleford> i don't have this alias on any other sites
[02:47] <fox_wilson> !mint | mojtaba
[02:47] <phunyguy> mojtaba....
[02:47] <bazhang> mojtaba, ??
[02:48] <mojtaba> sorry
[02:48] <LennaLinux> thanks for your help Tex_Nick =) lol, do not worry, the link is very good, thanks again
[02:48] <mojtaba> mistakenly
[02:48] <phunyguy> it happens.  :P
[02:48] <Uuni> Does the name Liam ring any bells?
[02:48] <PoolShark_> nobody has any ideas?
[02:48] <bin_bash> PoolShark_, that's weird. I don't really know.
[02:48] <fox_wilson> PoolShark_: You checked the compressor dvisions and  mainframe node singularities though?
[02:48] <bazhang> PoolShark_, thats no an ubuntu support issue
[02:49] <fox_wilson> PoolShark_: (that was humorous I assume)
[02:49] <fox_wilson> But offtopic :)
[02:49] <bin_bash> PoolShark_, Are you using a straight TE or TM approach or are you using CFIEs?
[02:49] <Tex_Nick> LennaLinux:  np hope you find some good stuff :-)
[02:50] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: it's a CFIE, so I would not expect to see the inherent interior resonance problem that comes from the straight TE approach... but in any case, what is perpexing is why this would happen on ubuntu and not solaris or redhat
[02:51] <IdleOne> PoolShark_: bin_bash I don't know what you two are talking about but you need to take it elsewhere please.
[02:51] <bin_bash> PoolShark_, that sure is odd. perhaps a kernel issue?
[02:51] <bazhang> bin_bash, thats enough.
[02:51] <bin_bash> jeez sorry
[02:51] <PoolShark_> bin_bash: I'm thinking maybe something wrong with whatever libraries are included with ubuntu
[02:51] <bin_bash> i was just trying to help
[02:51] <bazhang> PoolShark_, take it elsewhere
[02:51] <PoolShark_> bazhang: it's an #ubuntu question
[02:52] <giggazilla> Is there any way to change a filesystem back from ext2 to ext3?  I think fsck changed it from ext2 to ext3
[02:52] <bazhang> PoolShark_, no its not. lets move on
[02:52] <Ben64> giggazilla: you can mount ext3 as ext2
[02:52] <PoolShark_> bazhang: I don't see how a question about #ubuntu libraries is not about #ubuntu
[02:53] <Uuni> prassel, have we met?
[02:53] <symetrik> lol, preventing questions about ubuntu in #ubuntu
[02:53] <bazhang> !ot | Uuni
[02:53] <prassel> Uuni: nope
[02:54] <Uuni> fuck, you! bazhang
[02:54] <Uuni> WHAT THE FUCK?!!
[02:55] <MrF> haha who else saw that comin
[02:55] <bin_bash> I did.
[02:55]  * gelph shakes head
[02:55] <PoolShark_> If you don't know the answer, just say you don't know, but it's not fair to tell me that my ubuntu question is off topic just because nobody knows the answer.... admittedly this is a tough problem to solve, but nevertheless it is something that is unique to ubuntu, so naturally I think it's fair game here
[02:55] <IdleOne> I'm in a good mood folks, don't make me start banning the lot of you. Stick to Ubuntu support, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:56] <PoolShark_> no problem...
[02:57] <bin_bash> Sorry was just trying to help PoolShark_ =/
[02:57] <PoolShark_> I need some help determining what I think might be an issue underlying the developer libraries included with ubuntu 12.04 and the available fortran compiler, because I get different results on ubuntu and its included compilers and libraries than I do in every other distro I have used
[02:58] <jmnoz> hi. Is there a graphical tool for LVM?
[02:58] <MrF> you checked to make sure the compiler is the same version?
[02:58] <etienne> I need help and can't find any in the #ubuntu-beginners channel... I'll paste my question here if you guys don't mind...
[02:58] <etienne> Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.10 and i need to install some package found on this website : http://deve.loping.net/projects/ignoflash/downloads/
 can't seem to find a way to do it...
 Can somebody help me please
 I download the package from the 2nd link... Then I get a .tgz archive, which I extract....
 Then I don't know what to do next.....
[02:58] <FloodBot1> etienne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <Jeremy3D> anyone know if pandora can be played in rhythmbox?
[02:59] <etienne> sorry
[02:59] <gelph> PoolShark_ you may want to look at testing the fortran package http://www.fortran.com/f95ts.html
[03:00] <AntumDeluge> I am unable to use my sound card with more than 1 application at a time. Does anybody have something I can try to fix it. I have tried all kinds of settings with alsamixer, gnome-alsamixer, and xfce4-mixer.
[03:00] <giggazilla> Hmmmm is blkid usually accure about the filesystem type?
[03:00] <PoolShark_> gelph: that'd be nice but I'm using fort77 :)
[03:00] <jmnoz> perhaps system-config-lvm should be installed by default when user has installed LVM partitions. An idea?
[03:00] <PoolShark_> I guess I could try 95
[03:00] <AntumDeluge> My card is: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[03:00] <gelph> PoolShark_ same thing though, find a test suite for it, run it, see if there are bugs
[03:01] <Tex_Nick> Jeremy3D:  is supported by ad banners ... i would suspect that you need to play it from browser ... if not would be interesting :-)
[03:01] <Jeremy3D> tru Tex_Nick i just love my stations but love seeing the band thru ubuntu
[03:04] <Tex_Nick> Jeremy3D:  hmmm just found a link on how to play Pandora with VLC ... might be of use to you ... http://www.techyv.com/questions/how-use-vlc-listen-pandora
[03:05] <Piotic> Hello, I need some help about the instalation of Ubuntu
[03:05] <Ben64> !details | Piotic
[03:05] <Jeremy3D> Tex_Nick, i'll check it out. i used to use this - https://github.com/mzheng/rhythmbox-pandora
[03:05] <Jeremy3D> but i think it always gav eme problems so i stopped. didn't know if there was somethign comprable
[03:06] <RobBurkeOne> Hi. Is this the right place for a tiny support question?
[03:06] <Ben64> RobBurkeOne: for ubuntu, yes
[03:06] <bazhang> RobBurkeOne, for Ubuntu, yes
[03:06] <jim29> Jeremy3D Pithos works for me
[03:06] <usr13> big minds think alike
[03:07] <Piotic> Well, Im having a problem while is downloading some stuff, it seems to be a problem with NVIDIA drivers or something, in mid of the instalation the screen turns out black and I tried to wait for see something and nothing apears
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> jim29, what version rhythmbox, ubuntu you runnin?
[03:07] <RobBurkeOne> Okay. I am using 12.10 and just tried out the Kubuntu-destop. But after logging in back in unity, my Firefox and Thunderbird still show the KDE theme and color. How do I change this?
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> Tex_Nick, that'd work but i can just play in browser as originally described
[03:07] <gelph> Piotic hit the [Ctrl] key only, maybe screensaver went on
[03:07] <jim29> Ubuntu 12.04 w/ pithos....brings in Pandora
[03:08] <RobBurkeOne> same with libreoffice, btw
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> jim29, i see now. does it display the artist on each desktop (what does that...unity?)?
[03:09] <Piotic> I dont know, I tried to search and found something about some NVIDIA drivers, and it maybe could be that, I have NVIDIA Gforce 6200
[03:09] <gelph> RobBurkeOne the dirty little secret of different desktops is that in your home directory are all the settings that desktop manager used, and to "wipe the slate clean" I've had to fiddle with renaming the .config and other "dot" dirs
[03:09] <RobBurkeOne> actually, almost all gtk apps now show in oxygen style
[03:09] <jim29> yes. on unity
[03:09] <WeThePeople> anybody know how to fix a .ICEauthority file
[03:10] <WeThePeople> or know why it cant update
[03:10] <RobBurkeOne> gelph: So you say that every time I use KDE I have to manually fix it back?
[03:11] <Piotic> What should I do
[03:11] <gelph> RobBurkeOne are you going to be switching back and forth all the time?
[03:11] <gelph> Each time I "make a clean break" with one, I move the settings out of the way because they sometimes overlap in odd ways or conflict
[03:11] <RobBurkeOne> maybe. I wanted to give KDE a try. But I don't want to f*ck up my whole settings
[03:12] <Jeremy3D> jim so far so good. now can i put pithos into my little speaker icon in the top right, where rhythmbox resides?
[03:12] <gelph> RobBurkeOne: not app settings, just desktop manager settings, someone can help me here on all the "dot" dirs like .config
[03:13] <jim29> i just use a desktop icon
[03:13] <Tex_Nick> jim29 : hey thanks for the pithos info & Jeremy3D thanks for posting question :-)
[03:13] <RobBurkeOne> gelph:  Do you have any idea what to change exaclty?
[03:14] <jim29> Tex_Nick...np :)
[03:14] <giggazilla> Hmmmm the superblock appears to be bad on the array
[03:14] <Jeremy3D> Tex_Nick, yea this is great. thanks jim29
[03:14] <gelph> eeeks!  I'm running ubuntu server in VMWare right now, and using cygwin X server to run xchat, don't even have one at the moment
[03:14] <giggazilla> I recreated the partition using testdisk
[03:14] <giggazilla> I just read something on mounting it using an alternate superblock, but it complains
[03:14] <jim29> yeh....love my Pandora and Ubuntu!!
[03:16] <giggazilla> Trying to mount using -t ext3 and no journal found
[03:16] <RobBurkeOne> goodbye!
[03:17] <Jeremy3D> jim29, Tex_Nick : http://ubuntuguide.net/remove-rhythmbox-controls-from-ubuntu-12-04-sound-menu
[03:21] <nearst> hi ppl
[03:21] <Piotic> I
[03:22] <Piotic> Im installing ubuntu right now, but, if it happens again then I should press ctrl?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Piotic, umm, if WHAT happens again?  Restate the issue
[03:23] <phunyguy> Piotic, chat scrolls too fast
[03:23] <Piotic> When Im installing ubuntu, at mid of the installation the screen goes black and I tried to wait if see if something happens, but there was nothing
[03:24] <phunyguy> ...Screensaver?
[03:24] <Piotic> I searched and it seems to be something with NVIDIA drivers of my card
[03:24] <Piotic> Well, I dont really now
[03:24] <phunyguy> Piotic, what is your skill level, and do you have another PC handy?
[03:24] <Piotic> Well, not right now
[03:25] <Piotic> I just now how to boot from a usb, that's all
[03:25] <phunyguy> because I have installed SSH while on the livecd, started the service, and changed the ubuntu password to get loggde in remotely with the -X flag, and launched the GUI install from that...
[03:25] <Piotic> Know*
[03:25] <phunyguy> because I had a similar issue in the past
[03:25] <phunyguy> but it's not for the faint of heart
[03:25] <puff> I'm having a problem with xserver, it appears to crash as soon as I login.
[03:26] <puff> See http://darksleep.com/puff/xorg/xserver
[03:26] <puff> I get to the GUI login screen, I try to login, I get bounced back to the GUI login screen.  In /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old it just says "Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."
[03:27] <dr_willis> try as the guest user yet puff?
[03:27] <phunyguy> puff, that is an issue with your user profile
[03:28] <phunyguy> I am not sure which folders to rename to get a profile going again, cant remember offhand
[03:28] <phunyguy> .config is one of them I am sure
[03:28] <puff> dr_willis: Yeah, logging in as guest usre works fine.
[03:28] <phunyguy> puff, you are on vanilla ubuntu, the text file said?
[03:28] <puff> dr_willis: I've been limping along as guest user for a few weeks, finally got upthe energy to try again :-)
[03:28] <puff> Yes.
[03:29] <jmnoz> how does one configure system fonts in the latest Ubuntu?
[03:29] <nearst> :)
[03:29] <puff> I had installed ubuntu 12.4, installed xfce, but this happens whether I select ubuntu, xubuntu etc, at the login screen.
[03:30] <phunyguy> puff, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080752
[03:30] <WeThePeople> i chmod the .iceauthority file in fluxbox but i still cant login to ubuntu 2d
[03:30] <phunyguy> it cant be that easy, but if so, have at it!
[03:30] <jmnoz> system settings can configure wacom tablets but not system fonts?
[03:30] <puff> phunyguy: Gee, that'd be useufl if I could get X working so I could run firefox :-).
[03:30] <phunyguy> guest account.. ;)
[03:30] <phunyguy> and X is fine
[03:30] <phunyguy> we established that
[03:30] <dr_willis> puff does a newly made user work?
[03:31] <puff> dr_willis: Yes.
[03:31] <dr_willis> so you clean out your problem user settings....
[03:31] <dr_willis> those are the issue
[03:31] <phunyguy> puff, rename /home/user to /home/user.bak
[03:32] <phunyguy> mkdir /home/user
[03:32] <phunyguy> chmod -R user:user /home/user
[03:32] <nearst> usually on /etc/skel/
[03:32] <phunyguy> then login again via lightdm
[03:32] <phunyguy> (GUI)
[03:32] <phunyguy> nearst, it will copy /etc/skel
[03:32] <dr_willis> you could jyst login at console and rename the .config. dir..... as a test
[03:33] <phunyguy> yeah, dr_willis, this was a catch all.
[03:33] <phunyguy> i'm sure there are more dirs though
[03:33] <phunyguy> puff those commands require sudo as well, sorry
[03:33] <dr_willis> normally its .config.   or.   .Xauthority
[03:34] <phunyguy> puff, try what the doctor suggested first, and use mine as a second attempt
[03:34] <dr_willis> login at console as the user.    mkdir backups
[03:34] <puff> phunyguy: I have sudo, no worries.
[03:34] <dr_willis> mv .config backups/config
[03:34] <puff> Weird, I logged in via GUI with the spare account and now the pointer isn't working.
[03:35] <phunyguy> o.O
[03:35] <phunyguy> that is weird.
[03:35] <puff> Killed the spare account's youngest shell.
[03:36] <puff> okay, so...  Ithink it was just taking  forever to finish setting up the X session.
[03:36] <puff> Because it'doing it again with a different spare account.
[03:37] <phunyguy> hehehe
[03:37] <phunyguy> the spare account is a good idea also, because you can just use the new account, copy stuff you need from the old and make it yours, and to preserve permissions on remotely stored stuff, you can change your uid and gid to 1000 again
[03:37] <puff> God I hate unity.
[03:38] <puff> Where *is* everything.  Okay, shouldI bother checking that URL phunyguy pasted?
[03:38] <phunyguy> puff it is up to you on how to proceed
[03:38] <phunyguy> if you are savvy enough, you can make any route work
[03:39] <puff> Well sureit is... you guys can't reach the keys :-).
[03:39] <phunyguy> that last option I mentioned is basically make a new user, copy what you need to it, then delete the old user, and change the new user to 1000:1000
[03:39] <puff> Yeah.
[03:39] <nearst> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:39] <phunyguy> oooh another option>
[03:39] <phunyguy> ?
[03:39] <tgm4883> Is it possible to use only the intel graphics chip on laptops with AMD switchable graphics using the open source drivers in 12.10?
[03:40] <nearst> !ati| tgm4883
[03:40] <phunyguy> tgm4883, as in completely disable the amd chip?
[03:40] <HPChris> hi there I have an HP pavilion g6 model 2244ca, it's came preinstalled with windows 8,  i cannot get the Ubuntu live cd to boot,
[03:40] <tgm4883> phunyguy, yes
[03:40] <phunyguy> disable it in the bios if so
[03:41] <tgm4883> phunyguy, I didn't see an option to do that
[03:41] <phunyguy> !uefi | HPChris
[03:41] <phunyguy> tgm4883, I am afraid that is all I have.
[03:41] <phunyguy> I havent run into that situation uet
[03:41] <phunyguy> yet*
[03:42] <tgm4883> nearst, that page appears to not apply
[03:42] <tgm4883> phunyguy, yea, it's similar to the new nvidia cards
[03:42] <SpaceManiac> so I have ndiswrapper installed but not its kernel module
[03:42] <SpaceManiac> what's the best way to rectify this?
[03:42] <puff> dr_willis, phunyguy:  Okay, so moved .config to ~/backups/dot.config and then tried to login as my main user account, same result.
[03:43] <tgm4883> I can do it with the proprietary drivers, but can't find a way to do it with open source
[03:43] <dr_willis> puff try your other .*  files.  move tgem all uf you want
[03:44] <senoraraton> I'm having a problem, and I think it might be rooted in Ubuntu...  I set my computer up as a DMZ temporarily to test something, and the ports aren't open still.  I disabled ufw, so if my router is not blocking me, and ufw is not blocking me, what else is there?  Anything ubuntu specific?
[03:44] <dr_willis> dont move.   .gvfs.
[03:44] <tgm4883> senoraraton, is something actually listening?
[03:44] <puff> There are 114 .files :-)
[03:44] <nearst> tgm4883, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide, look for ati/intel hybrid
[03:45] <senoraraton> tgm4883 I'm connecting via telnet to localhost, and I ran an online NMAP that states the ports are closed, and the telnet acts as if they are.
[03:45] <dr_willis> I gox like 500
[03:45] <tgm4883> senoraraton, what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:47] <puff> dr_willis: well, that worked.
[03:47] <senoraraton> tgm4883 I'm using tinyfugue(mud client) to connect to a remote server, and then I'm setting up several dummy connections to localhost as psuedo "worlds" with which to disemminate data from the primary client into the secondary windows.  I'm using tmux as a multiplexer.
[03:47] <puff> dr_willis: But now all my configs are gone...
[03:47] <tgm4883> senoraraton, heh, sorry I asked.
[03:48] <chrisc_> Is there any ssh application for ubuntu thats more advanced than terminal? Or are there any keyboard shortcuts for terminal to copy and paste? I find putty on windows easier to use with being able to highlight text and immediately paste it. Anything like this possible on buntu?
[03:48] <tgm4883> senoraraton, but if you've disabled UFW and your router is forwarding the correct ports, and something is listening on that port, then it should all work
[03:48] <puff> dr_willis: I guess now I carefully migrate .files back into my home directory, rebooting every now and then to see if I've broken x.
[03:48] <gnuyoga_> Any suggestions on managing ssh keys / authentication management for large scale system ( more than 100+) servers ? Is ldap a natural choice ?
[03:48] <tonsofpcs> chrisc_: eh, I just use screen everywhere.  ctrl+[ to enter copy mode, arrow around, space to start selection, space again to end it (and copy), ctrl+] to paste
[03:49] <tgm4883> chrisc_, you can highlight text in the terminal and immediately paste it
[03:49] <tonsofpcs>  chrisc_> Is there any ssh application for ubuntu thats more advanced than terminal? Or are there any keyboard
[03:49] <tonsofpcs> example ^
[03:49] <puff> dr_willis: Or I guess I could just doa search algo... move first half of .files back, log out and log back in to test X.  rinse and repeat with remaining files.
[03:49] <tonsofpcs> mouse is slow.
[03:49] <MK`> how do I set my USB headphones as the default in 11.10?
[03:49] <nearst> advance ssh is base on /etc/ssh/sshd_config :)
[03:49] <MrF>  you can use ssh to forward a GUI tonsofpcs
[03:49] <dr_willis> puff:  takes me like 3 min to get unity back how I want..
[03:50] <MrF> for example a file manager or web browser if that's what you're looking for
[03:51] <dr_willis> puff:  I know what most of the settings files are for.  :-D
[03:51] <puff> dr_willis: There are 112... yeesh.
[03:51] <senoraraton> >.<  So it SHOULD work.. Why doesn't it....
[03:51] <dr_willis> woopie doo...
[03:52] <chrisc_> tgm3883: doesn't work for me on xubuntu 12.04
[03:52] <dr_willis>  .compiz is a common breaker  :-D
[03:53] <WeThePeople> how do i reinstall nautilus
[03:53] <dr_willis> ! info nautilus
[03:53] <tgm4883> chrisc_, have you tried middle mouse button click after highlighting?
[03:54] <steven> dsad
[03:56] <dinosaurvskitten> is there a simple way to remap XF86LaunchA to generate shift+insert? I'm on a macbook, and there is no insert key. I would use this to paste in xterm. (I'm open to better ideas)
[03:59] <dr_willis> insert key pastes? never seen that
[03:59] <dinosaurvskitten> shift+insert
[03:59] <dinosaurvskitten> not insert
[03:59] <fish_man> ..
[04:00] <noahmehl> anyone know if this is the room for help with boot time encryption with dm-crypt?
[04:00] <dr_willis> I tend to select then middle click.
[04:00] <dinosaurvskitten> middle click doesn't paste from the same buffer
[04:00] <dinosaurvskitten> I like to use both
[04:03] <senoraraton> Sometimes calling tech support is fun.... Sometimes.
[04:05] <noahmehl> senoraraton: ?
[04:05] <mhs> Hi... Can anybody tell me how to install realplayer in ubuntu 12.10? Please
[04:05] <Guest63398> I am looking for some help with getting 802.1n working on my laptop.  I am currently running 12.1
[04:06] <usr13> Guest63398: iwconfig
[04:06] <senoraraton> I'm having problems with blocked ports.  I disabled UFW and DMZed my computer in my router, and its still not working, so I am talking to the idiots at tech support for my isp JUST in case they have the ports I'm trying to use blocked for some stupid reason.
[04:06] <dr_willis> why do you need realplayer?
[04:06] <bin_bash> mhs, realplayer?
[04:07] <OerHeks> in partner repo there is a x86 realplayer
[04:07] <nearst> brb
[04:07] <puff> dr_willis: So, it looks like the problem file was one of: .Xauthority, .Xauthority-c, .Xauthority-l, .xine, .xsession-errors
[04:07] <Guest63398> usr13.......I only see the current 2.47 freq....not the 5 ghz network
[04:07] <dr_willis> I mentioned .xauthority at the start..  :-D
[04:07] <usr13> Guest63398: And you have dual band WiFi NIC?
[04:08] <Guest63398> Yes....this works with windows 7 on this laptop
[04:08] <dr_willis> no idea why you have several puff
[04:08] <usr13> senoraraton: Did you check to see if the services were accessable to the LAN?
[04:09] <usr13> senoraraton: Before uninsaling UFW and DMZing your PC...?
[04:09] <Guest63398> usr13......lspci shows the wireless controller as Centrino Wireless -N 2200 BGN
[04:09] <dr_willis> the .Xauthority file getting owned by root for some reason.. seems to be a fairly common problem  - keeping users from logging into Xproperly.
[04:09] <mhs> bin_bash, realplayer a kind of audio/video player
[04:09] <puff> dr_willis: There were also several files that were automacially recreated, .config, .cache, .dbus, .emacs.d, .gconf, .gnome2, .gstreamer-0.10, .gvfs, .local.
[04:09] <bin_bash> mhs, yeah for windows
[04:09] <puff> dr_willis: Think I can/should move those back intomy home directory?
[04:10] <usr13> Guest63398: iwlist wlan0 scan   #What does it see?
[04:10] <dr_willis> mhs:  ive not needed to use reaplayer on linux in years...
[04:10] <dr_willis> mhs:  what are you watching that needs it?
[04:10] <dinosaurvskitten> for the record, xmodmap -e "keycode 128 = Insert" works fine to remap
[04:10] <Tex_Nick> mhs : i think VLC will play most real Media (rm) files ?
[04:10] <senoraraton> usr13 I'm to connect to localhost through telnet, but I was under the assumption that it was routed through the router?  At any rate it won't connect.
[04:10] <bin_bash> mhs, there's dozens of better alternatives.
[04:10] <dr_willis> puff if you want ; it shouldent hurt - you know the drill now to clean things out
[04:10] <puff> dr_willis: Good point.
[04:11] <mhs> dr_willis, For online streaming...
[04:11] <dr_willis> mhs:  what site?
[04:11]  * dr_willis cant think of any sites that requlre real player these days
[04:11] <usr13> senoraraton: Yep, it's a safe bet that it is routed through the router.  I think port-forwarding is what you need.
[04:11] <dinosaurvskitten> what is rea[BUFFERING]
[04:11] <bin_bash> you can stream through vlc iirc if it's video and almost any player if it's audio
[04:12] <senoraraton> usr13 I did that, and it didn't work... So I just DMZed myself on my router, sledgehammer approach, and that didnt' work either.
[04:12] <dr_willis> mhs:  yes i know what real player is.. and all about the company...
[04:12] <Guest63398> I am only seeing my 2.4 ghz network.......is there a chance that the ubuntu kernel doesn't have the drivers compiled in?
[04:12] <dr_willis> mhs:  but what site are you trying ot watch that needs realplayer? Just the realplayer site?
[04:12] <mhs> bin_bash, What are the other alternatives,?
[04:12] <bin_bash> Guest63398, can you change your nick so it's easier tohighlight you?
[04:12] <usr13> senoraraton: There are online port scanners you can use.
[04:12] <bin_bash> mhs, for video or audio?
[04:14] <senoraraton> usr13 Been there done that, ran NMAP on a range and they are blocked.
[04:14] <dr_willis> i dont think realplayers native linux client has been updated in years..
[04:14] <Thurin1> You don't need RP...
[04:14] <bin_bash> mhs, mocp, vlc, mpd
[04:14] <Thurin1> You just need RP codecs.
[04:15] <senoraraton> One the tech support note, they lied to me, and I liked them a page on their website showing them they lied to me, and now they are trying to pass me off onto "superior" suport...
[04:15] <usr13> senoraraton: So, why are they blocked?
[04:15] <senoraraton> usr13 Thats what we are trying to fiqure out.:P
[04:15] <Tex_Nick> mhs : vlc plays most types of multimedia ... give it a shot :-)
[04:16] <bin_bash> mpd and mocp are better
[04:16] <daze> my Chromium (chrome://plugins/) says it can play Realplayer9 media using Gecko Media Player 1.0.6
[04:16] <usr13> senoraraton: So what did nmap discover?  (pastebinit)
[04:16] <cfhowlett> mhs, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:16] <Guest63398> lksdjf
[04:17] <senoraraton> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1618698/
[04:17] <spacecase> I'm having an issue where my system will become unresponsive (all I can do is hold down the power button to shut it down) when the display sleeps
[04:17] <spacecase> happens after logging stops, so I have no clue how I should go about diagnosing this
[04:17] <mhs> cfhowlett, I am new to ubuntu. Will you please tell me how to install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:17] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  does that include realplayer ?
[04:18] <Evansch0> how do you find out if your laptop has a 64 bit proccesser on ubuntu ?????
[04:18] <Evansch0> o.o
[04:18] <usr13> senoraraton: So, what do you have listening on those ports?
[04:18] <MartynKeigher> quick Q: very stupid one, but how do i browse the root folder as sudo? all i need to do is copy/paste a file
[04:18] <cfhowlett> mhs Tex_Nick almost certain that RP is included but as I haven't actually seen a RP site in  .... years >>>  anyway, you'd want to login to the admin account and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras   or install via Ubuntu Software Center
[04:19] <OerHeks> Evansch0, open terminal: lscpu
[04:19] <MartynKeigher> the file is within my home folder (if that makes a difference)
[04:19] <Evansch0> OerHeks: ok i will see if that works
[04:19] <senoraraton> usr13 Nothing, I'm trying to telnet into one of them.  I'm trying to telnet localhost 5000
[04:20] <usr13> senoraraton: (When nmap reports "closed", that usually means there is no service listening on that port.)
[04:20] <mhs> cfhowlett, thank you
[04:20]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[04:20] <cfhowlett> mhs, have fun, be safe ...
[04:20] <senoraraton> Maybe I'm really stupid.... Maybe...
[04:20] <mhs> cfhowlett, sure.
[04:20] <senoraraton> The old port scanners used to tell you if you could ACCESS a port...
[04:21] <Evansch0> Architecture:          i686 CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order:            Little Endian CPU(s):                1 On-line CPU(s) list:   0 Thread(s) per core:    1 Core(s) per socket:    1 Socket(s):             1 Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel CPU family:            6 Model:                 15 Stepping:              13 CPU MHz:               1995.156 BogoMIPS:              3990.31 L1d cache:             32K L1i c
[04:21] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  yeah same here ... i've not encountered rm files in a while ... haven't found anything in a while that vlc won't play either ...hey thanks for input though :-)
[04:21] <usr13> senoraraton: Just missing a few bits of info.  That's all.
[04:21] <Evansch0> how do i find out what that means?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, NP amigo
[04:21] <usr13> senoraraton: If a port is blocked, nmap will report "filtered".
[04:21] <mhs> cfhowlett, How configure micromax 3g data dongle in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:21] <tgm4883> senoraraton, how? I was under the impression that there wasn't a difference between a firewall blocking a port and something not listening on a port
[04:21] <cfhowlett> mhs, sorry, over my head.  IDK but ask in channel
[04:22] <tgm4883> although I suppose with a firewall you could reject or drop packets
[04:22] <usr13> senoraraton: but you should first scan the actual LAN IP.
[04:22] <Evansch0> anyone?
[04:22] <tgm4883> Evansch0, looks like it supports both 32 and 64 bit
[04:22] <Evansch0> :O OMG
[04:22] <bin_bash> Evansch0, open a terminal and type uname -r then give me the output
[04:22] <tgm4883> op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[04:23] <tgm4883> I'm guessing that is what that means
[04:23] <MartynKeigher> quick Q: very stupid one, but how do i browse the root folder as sudo? all i need to do is copy/paste a file
[04:23] <Evansch0> kk will do
[04:23] <tgm4883> and that Architecture:          i686
[04:23] <tgm4883> means you are running a 32-bit kernel
[04:23] <bin_bash> MartynKeigher, which file browser are you using
[04:23] <Evansch0> 3.2.0-37-generic-pae
[04:23] <Evansch0> there you are bin
[04:23] <bin_bash> Evansch0, 32bit
[04:23] <MartynKeigher> just the default that comes with 12.04
[04:23] <bin_bash> 3.2? geez.
[04:23] <Evansch0> what
[04:23] <mhs> Please tell me how to configure micromax 3g data card/data dongle in ubnut 12.10?
[04:23] <bin_bash> MartynKeigher, that doesn't help me. i need the name of the file manager
[04:23] <bin_bash> nautilus? thunar? what
[04:24] <Evansch0> what does all those numbers mean?
[04:24] <tgm4883> bin_bash, yea, that is like. 12.04!
[04:24] <bin_bash> Evansch0, it's the kernel version
[04:24] <Evansch0> and
[04:24] <MartynKeigher> sorry i dont know, just the default folder viewer that is on the launcher bar on 12.04 desktop (unity)
[04:24] <Evansch0> what does that mean
[04:24] <bin_bash> MartynKeigher, figure it out or esle I can't help you
[04:24] <bin_bash> Evansch0, it means that's the version of Linux you're using.
[04:25] <Evansch0> :o
[04:25] <bin_bash> is it stupid day or something?
[04:25] <Evansch0> oh
[04:25] <Evansch0> yes :D
[04:25] <dr_willis> defaukt folder viewer is nautilus. but i think its called 'Folder View' in the mime settings
[04:25] <Evansch0> xD jk
[04:25] <usr13> MartynKeigher: Do you see Help or ???
[04:25] <bin_bash> Evansch0, open a terminal and type gksudo nautilus
[04:25] <bin_bash> er
[04:25] <bin_bash> not Evansch0
[04:25] <tgm4883> Evansch0, the -pae gives it away that it's a 32-bit kernel
[04:25] <bin_bash> MartynKeigher, open a terminal and type gksudo nautilus
[04:25] <MartynKeigher> its nautilus
[04:25] <Evansch0> mm damn
[04:25] <Evansch0> i was looking for 64 bit :/
[04:25] <tgm4883> Evansch0, since -pae doesn't exist for 64-bit kernels
[04:26] <bin_bash> -pae allowed 32bit kernels to use 4gb of RAM
[04:26] <Evansch0> would i be able to run 64 bit at all?
[04:26] <bin_bash> no.
[04:26] <tgm4883> Evansch0, well that is just the kernel you are running, not what you are able to run
[04:26] <Evansch0> :(
[04:26] <bin_bash> if you have a 64 bit processor, you can instally 64bit ubuntu
[04:26] <Evansch0> i never tried
[04:26] <bin_bash> you don't just try
[04:26] <Evansch0> but how can i figure out what i can install
[04:27] <bin_bash> you have to make sure you have the right processor
[04:27] <Evansch0> how
[04:27] <bin_bash> what kind of processor do you have
[04:27] <Evansch0> no idea
[04:27] <bin_bash> ...
[04:27] <Evansch0> yah
[04:27] <Evansch0> :/
[04:27] <bin_bash> how...
[04:27] <MartynKeigher> gksudo nautilus worked! thanks
[04:27] <bin_bash> do you not know that
[04:27] <bin_bash> MartynKeigher, no problem
[04:27] <Evansch0> i didnt buy it
[04:27] <bin_bash> okay...
[04:27] <bin_bash> one sc
[04:27] <Evansch0> kk
[04:27] <tgm4883> Evansch0, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'
[04:28] <bin_bash> ^
[04:28] <fbdystang> ^
[04:28] <Evansch0> whaat am i supposed to do with that information tgm
[04:28] <tgm4883> ^
[04:28] <bin_bash> couldn't remember if it was cpuinfo or cpu
[04:28] <tgm4883> Evansch0, run it
[04:28] <tgm4883> bin_bash, I didn't know about lscpu, that is nice
[04:28] <bin_bash> tgm4883, yeah
[04:28] <Evansch0> thx
[04:28] <tgm4883> I'd bet it tells you in there, but I'll read the manpage on it
[04:28] <Evansch0> model name	: Genuine Intel(R) CPU             575  @ 2.00GHz
[04:28] <MartynKeigher> 2nd q: can someone help me create an upstart script.
[04:29] <bin_bash> yeah Evansch0 open a terminal and do lscpu
[04:29] <RiXtEr> model name	: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570   @ 1.66GHz ;)
[04:29] <bin_bash> then give me the architecture line
[04:29] <Evansch0> :D
[04:29] <Evansch0> better xP
[04:29] <Evansch0> Architecture:          i686
[04:29] <tgm4883> yea, it's 64-bit celeron
[04:29] <mhs> How to use 3g data dongle/data card in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:29] <mrsudoer> Does anyone here know of a good how-to for setting up a SSH VNC server on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:30] <MartynKeigher> i need to run the following command manually everytime my pc starts up: nohup dashing start &
[04:30] <fbdystang> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz
[04:30] <Evansch0> i envey you fdb
[04:30] <tgm4883> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3517U CPU @ 1.90GHz
[04:30] <Evansch0> so can i run it?
[04:30] <Evansch0> 64 bit i mean
[04:31] <bin_bash> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2415M CPU @ 2.30GHz
[04:31] <bin_bash> Evansch0, NO
[04:31] <bin_bash> er
[04:31] <bin_bash> no
[04:31] <Evansch0> :/
[04:31] <tgm4883> bin_bash, yes he can?
[04:31] <RiXtEr> thats a chromebook processor :) (that intel atom)
[04:31] <fbdystang> Evansch0 :)
[04:31] <bin_bash> no he can't
[04:31] <Evansch0> ok thanks
[04:31] <bin_bash> tgm4883, it's i686
[04:31] <bin_bash> tgm4883, [23:30:02] <Evansch0> Architecture:          i686
[04:31] <bin_bash> that's 32bit
[04:31] <RiXtEr> bin_bash, thats the arch installed.
[04:31] <fbdystang> no he can't
[04:31] <bin_bash> no, that's the arch of the chip
[04:32] <bin_bash> he quit
[04:32] <tgm4883> bin_bash, why does it list 64-bit under op codes?
[04:32] <OerHeks> Evansch0 you could run 64 bit > http://ark.intel.com/products/55637/Intel-Atom-Processor-N570-1M-Cache-1_66-GHz
[04:32] <RiXtEr> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron_M/Intel-Celeron%20M%20575%20LF80537NF0411M.html
[04:32] <bin_bash> oh he posted the wrong thing :|
[04:33] <Tex_Nick> !boot | MartynKeigher
[04:33] <bin_bash> i was looking at something else
[04:33] <tgm4883> bin_bash, I'll settle this, I have a 64-bit capable netbook running 32-bit precise, give me a sec
[04:33] <bin_bash> tgm4883, I believe you. I misread.
[04:33] <bin_bash> I'm not syaing you'r wrong. I'm saying I was wrong.
[04:33] <chadster1975> after installing the newest nvidia drivers from the software center and resetting my screen has gone low-res and totally lost unity. can anyone help?
[04:33] <tgm4883> lol
[04:34] <tgm4883> "Floating point exception (core dumped)"
[04:34] <tgm4883> from running lscpu
[04:34] <fbdystang> I thought the argument was if you could run 64 on a 32 bit processor, which you can't
[04:35] <vnc786> hi..everyone
[04:35] <tgm4883> fbdystang, I think he wanted to know if he could run 64-bit ubuntu on his processor
[04:35] <mhs> How to install 3g data dongle in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:35] <vnc786> i have 750gb hdd with ext3 fs now i want partition on that but there is some data which i want to preserve how do i do ..?
[04:35] <tgm4883> fbdystang, which is a 64-bit processor
[04:35] <Tex_Nick> MartynKeigher:  /etc/rc.local is where you would place startup scripts
[04:35] <tgm4883> although not a good one
[04:35] <fbdystang> right, i misunderstood
[04:35] <fbdystang> mhs: what brand?
[04:35] <bin_bash> RIP rc.local in systemd
[04:36] <Tex_Nick> MartynKeigher:  or rather a symlink to script
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> i dont see an rc.local
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> i see rc0.1, rc0.2, rc0.3....etc,
[04:37] <mhs> fbdystang, micromax 353g...
[04:37] <RiXtEr> bin_bash, my 64 bit atom doesn't even show an arch line :(
[04:37] <Tex_Nick> MartynKeigher:  it's a hidden file ... ls -a
[04:37] <bin_bash> RiXtEr, FOR SHAME
[04:37] <RiXtEr> ;)
[04:37] <arielsanflo> help
[04:38] <fbdystang> mhs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/214398/how-to-set-up-micromax-353g-wireless-modem-in-12-10
[04:38] <RiXtEr> arielsanflo, can't unless you ask a question.
[04:38] <bin_bash> !help | arielsanflo
[04:38] <bin_bash> this channel needs phrik.
[04:38] <cfhowlett> arielsanflo, details please
[04:38] <bin_bash> he's fallen and he can't get up
[04:38] <arielsanflo> how can increase my disc
[04:39] <bin_bash> what
[04:39] <mhs> fbdystang, thank you
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !details|arielsanflo,
[04:39] <fbdystang> mhs: this one is better: http://imacify.com/2012/10/how-to-configure-micromax-3g-modem-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[04:39] <bin_bash> It's amazing how much I can help people evn though I haven't used Ubuntu in 3 years.
[04:40] <fbdystang> bin_bash: its because you are a linux ninja. I am not, but I know a little about ubuntu
[04:40] <mrsudoer> Guys, I need some input here. Recently I installed KDE over unity which totally effed up my system and caused me to reinstall ubuntu because KDE wasn't removable and everything was a mess. Question is: If I install Gnome (gnome-core, to be exact), will I run into a similar problem?
[04:40] <bin_bash> It's because most of it is generic linux problems
[04:40] <bin_bash> not necessarily ubuntu-specific
[04:41] <bin_bash> wait wait
[04:41] <bin_bash> stop
[04:41] <bin_bash> kde wasn't removable?
[04:41] <bin_bash> what
[04:41] <FloodBot1> bin_bash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <chadster1975> can someone tell me the quick way to pull up the display driver settings?  its like ctrl+alt F4 or something?
[04:41] <tgm4883> yea, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that
[04:41] <bin_bash> chadster1975, depends on your keybindings.
[04:41] <vnc786> i have 750gb hdd with ext3 fs now i want partition on that but there is some data which i want to preserve how do i do ..?
[04:41] <chadster1975> bin_bash: should be default, i havent changed anything
[04:42] <bin_bash> chadster1975, then try google
[04:42] <bin_bash> :)
[04:42] <arielsanflo> i want to increase the space of my disc C
[04:42] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, are you installing ONLY kde or the kubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <tgm4883> chadster1975, I don't think there is a default keybinding to bring up the display driver settings
[04:42] <STMelon> bbiab
[04:42] <mrsudoer> cfhowlett, I'm only installing gnome-core
[04:42] <mrsudoer> ^^^wanting to (haven't yet)
[04:42] <RiXtEr> chadster1975, generally gparted will do what you want, but always backup data first
[04:42] <bin_bash> mrsudoer, you don't like run one DE on top of another. what you have to do is change your xinitrc settings to only run one of them
[04:43] <RiXtEr> sorry that was meant for vnc786
[04:43] <RiXtEr> vnc786, , generally gparted will do what you want, but always backup data first
[04:43] <arielsanflo> because it does not have available space
[04:43] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, I'm going to have to punt this one back into channel.   you SHOULD be able to install / purge any of the desktop environments without risking your system, but ...
[04:44] <bin_bash> mrsudoer, don't PM people without their permission. it's rude.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> arielsanflo, how big is your HDD?
[04:44] <mrsudoer> bin_bash, you must be mistaking me for someone else
[04:44] <mrsudoer> thanks cfhowlett for your input
[04:44] <bin_bash> mrsudoer, sorry
[04:45] <chadster1975> tgm4883: i had this problem a few days ago and dr_willis threw it right at me.. i just cant remember now. its like shift=alt f4 or something i just forgot
[04:45] <bin_bash> mrsudoer, in order to run a different DE you should change your xinitrc file so that when you boot it starts the one you want
[04:46] <mrsudoer> bin_bash, you can also specify at the login screen, right?
[04:46] <bin_bash> mrsudoer, idk I don't use a login screen
[04:46] <RiXtEr> mrsudoer, yes
[04:46] <bin_bash> I think it depends on which one you're using
[04:46] <edude03> Hey guys, I have an issue with 12.10, when I boot from the live cd and click "Try Ubuntu" it kicks me out to a terminal
[04:46] <RiXtEr> mrsudoer, for xdm and gdm at the very least, not sure of others.
[04:47] <arielsanflo> how can I increase the space in the C disc?? I have two operative systems and two parts of the disc that are free.
[04:47] <edude03> no error but a blinking cursor, though I can't try anything there either
[04:47] <tgm4883> chadster1975, what irc program do you use?
[04:47] <bin_bash> edude03, did you check the md5sum of the disk before burning it?
[04:47] <bin_bash> s/disk/iso/
[04:47] <cfhowlett> arielsanflo, boot an ubuntu disk, run gparted and resize
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !gparted|arielsanflo,
[04:47] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | edude03
[04:47] <edude03> I did, but I should also mention I wrote it to a USB drive
[04:48] <chadster1975> tgm4883: im using limechat on my mac that is sitting next to my broken ubuntu machine
[04:48] <edude03> OerHeks I was thinking that but thee display isn't corrupt it's just a terminal
[04:48] <tgm4883> chadster1975, any chance that logs to a file?
[04:48] <tgm4883> you could just grep the file
[04:48] <edude03> I'll try anyway
[04:49] <OerHeks> edude03, black screen with blinking cursor that seems to halted the system ? nomodeset could help
[04:49] <edude03> OK trying it
[04:49] <chadster1975> tgm4883: it was about a week ago. i feel like id have better luck goggling like crazy to find it. dr_willis spit it out so fast i assumed it was one of those common things everyone does all the time
[04:50] <bin_bash> chadster1975, maybe it's something he does
[04:50] <bin_bash> but i've never done it
[04:50] <bin_bash> nor heard of it
[04:53] <tgm4883> chadster1975, I've never done it either. If you don't idle in this channel, it might just be easier to "grep dr_willis logfile.log"
[04:53] <tgm4883> a quick google search doesn't turn up anything
[04:53] <bin_bash> ^
[04:54] <mrsudoer> So, I have the ubuntu "Remote Desktop" server working and I have openssh-server working too. How can I access the vnc server through SSH?
[04:55] <edude03> with no modeset it cycles colours
[04:57] <zzxx> hello, I have a peculiar problem..... I am currently watching a video with vlc... this video was downloading in firefox as I was watching it. Then I accidententally cancelled the download (meant to click the one above it) so the file was deleted.... but it is still playing in vlc untill it gets to the end of the file
[04:57] <zzxx> is there any way I can recover the file without having to re download it
[04:57] <zzxx> id rather not redownload as I am on g3 and paying per megabyte
[04:57] <tgm4883> zzxx, does VLC have a File > Save option?
[04:58] <zzxx> (If i can fecover the file I can resume the download)
[04:58] <zzxx> tgm4883: no, not that I saw
[04:59] <zzxx> furthermore if I lsof I can see the file: vlc       7634    jake   21u      REG                7,0 94470416  106605 /home/jake/Downloads/fm6dy66jeyo2.part (deleted)
[05:04] <bsmith093> im running ubuntu quantal, is there a way to get gedit to remember cursor position in the files it has open? it used to, in lucid, and now its only sporadic, im already have session svaer, which is working fabulously ], and this is the final quirk of this upgrade
[05:05] <Tex_Nick> zzxx : what platform/distro are you using
[05:07] <hpuser2323> What USB sound cards are known to work in ubuntu 12.04?
[05:07] <hpuser2323> link to a list of proven usb cards?
[05:07] <bin_bash> zzxx, see if it's in your trash bin
[05:08] <cfhowlett> hpuser2323, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[05:09] <Tex_Nick> hpuser2323:  try this ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[05:10] <hpuser2323> thanks
[05:10] <Tex_Nick> whoops cfhowlett  beat me to it ;-)
[05:10] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, indeed ... but great minds think alike
[05:10] <zzxx> Tex_Nick: ubuntu 12.12
[05:11] <zzxx> bin_bash:  not in the trash
[05:11] <bin_bash> zzxx, dunno then
[05:11] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  you're faster than this ol coot ;)
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, only sometimes :)
[05:12] <zzxx> anyone know where the /proc/pid file is on ubutu?
[05:12] <zzxx> bun*
[05:14] <makara> hi. I messed up my bootloader being greedy. I read an article in hackernews about e4rat and installed it. But apparently Ubuntu already has it's own. So I uninstalled it, but now Ubuntu's loader (forget the name) doesn't run. No 1. No2, I installed BUM to turn off services on system startup and I see openarena-server activated?? I uninstalled OpenArena ages ago, and looking in Synaptic there's nothing there. Any ideas?
[05:15] <cfhowlett> makara, a little knowledge truly is a dangerous thing.  And one problem at a time.
[05:15] <bin_bash> does anyone here use pulseaudio? I've had a problem with audio skipping when playing it (it's seemingly random) 'm using pulseaudio with alsamixer
[05:16] <makara> cfhowlett, truly. Well the first problem is more pressing
[05:16] <Tex_Nick> zzxx : chances are the file is not resumable ... something to keep in mind for the future, if you're concerned bout bandwidth usage ... you might use wget to dl the file ... wget allows file resume on disconnects ... i know it doesn't hepl you now though :(
[05:16] <hatake> why ubuntu 12 fast heat, and how to fix
[05:16] <cfhowlett> bin_bash, also ask that in #ubuntustudio maybe
[05:17] <bin_bash> cfhowlett, tbh I'm not even using ubuntu. I was just wondering if anyone had had the problem
[05:17] <Ben64> if you're not using ubuntu, the question is offtopic
[05:17] <cfhowlett> makara, I'm unfamiliar with e4rat, but I would think re-installing your default bootloader, grub would fix it.
[05:17] <makara> hatake, drivers for your fan not working? what is your hardware?
[05:17] <hpuser2323> bin_bash, have you tested VLC ?  sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !grub|makara,
[05:18] <bin_bash> I have vlc and mpd etc
[05:18] <bin_bash> bu it's so random
[05:18] <hatake> makara, asus k45d
[05:18] <hatake> cpu amd a8-4500m 1.9ghz
[05:18] <hatake> ram 4gb
[05:18] <hatake> vga radeon dual graphics 7640g+7470m 1gb
[05:18] <hatake> makara, how about laptop mode tools
[05:18] <chadster1975> can anyone help me if i have lost my unity tool bar?
[05:19] <makara> cfhowlett, I have grub. Its Ureadahead not working now
[05:20] <zzxx> Tex_Nick: Thanks for the warning, indeed I can resume this one with wget if I recover it. ive checked :)
[05:20] <makara> cfhowlett, its installed, but doesn't do the trick
[05:20] <makara> 5min boottime
[05:20] <makara> maybe more
[05:21] <wrektjet> hey all. i recently upgraed to 12.04 from 11.10 and when using chrome videos which use flash (i believe) such as youtube i get the error "could not load plugin" this does not happen when using firefox for example
[05:21] <Slukehart> test
[05:21] <cfhowlett> makara, can't help with ureadahead
[05:21] <hpuser2323> bin_bash, i also install ubuntu-restricted-extras and ffmpeg. See if they help.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> wrektjet, sudo apt-get install #ubuntu-restricted-extras might help, but there is a known bug with chrome and videos ...
[05:22] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash ...  i had a problem with vlc a few month ago ... sound was distorted on some files ... i ignored it for a while untill another person posted a similar problem using skype & vlc
[05:22] <wrektjet> cfhowlett, the reason i mention firefox working is because i have installed rstriced extras and it has worked previously but no longer so i thought maybe there wasa  new issue
[05:23] <cfhowlett> wrektjet, also enable backports and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <woo> g'night everybody
[05:23] <cfhowlett> wrektjet, to capture any new goodness
[05:23] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : i found this link that solved both our problems ...http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad
[05:25] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : don't know if it applys to your problem ... tis a simple way to see though ... if it doesn't work ... easy to revert
[05:25] <bin_bash> yeah
[05:25] <bin_bash> thanks bro
[05:25] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash np :-)
[05:27] <jason766> what is bin bash?
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> zzxx : sorry was looking round ... good to know ;-)
[05:27] <bin_bash> jason766, it's me
[05:27] <zzxx> Tex_Nick: np.
[05:28] <wrektjet> aha
[05:28] <jason766> wait is that the system?
[05:28] <wrektjet> cfhowlett, just an update i found a thread where someone said they disabled the adobe version and it worked for me
[05:28] <cfhowlett> wrektjet, so simple a solution ...
[05:29] <wrektjet> now i need to fix my partitions which got all mixed up when i tried using this partition manager
[05:29] <wrektjet> so i have to manually mount them every boot and all my files get mixed up. BUT AT LEAST I CAN WATCH THE NHL NOW
[05:30] <apb1963__> what is full path to ifconfig please?
[05:30] <zzxx> for anyone who may care, this worked for me to recover the deleted, but still open video:
[05:30] <zzxx> i found the process id of the running vlc (7634) then went to /proc/7634/fd/ and found a symlink "21" which linked to the deleted file. All I had to do was cp 21 /home/jake/myrecoveredfile
[05:31] <apb1963__> anyone?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> apb1963__, find ifconfig will you
[05:32] <apb1963__> which ifconfig and/or whereis ifconfig should do it :)
[05:32] <peterrooney> apb1963__: apparently, 'ifconfig' is deprecated in favour of 'ip'
[05:32] <cfhowlett> apb1963__, locate ifconfig
[05:32] <apb1963__> got it
[05:32] <apb1963__> thanks
[05:32] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, interestinglyu, that made it worse -.-
[05:34] <jason766> great
[05:36] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : jeeze that's bad ... well don't know what to say ... OH ... did you log out then back in ... you need to do that for the config file to work
[05:36] <hpuser4466> How to fix a dim lcd screen on a laptop?
[05:37] <hpuser4466> Might be a hardware issue as the battery is dead and I
[05:37] <hpuser4466> and i'm running on AC power. Was working fine yesterday. Now it dimmed.
[05:37] <histo> hpuser4466: Have you tried adjusting brightness?
[05:37] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : if it doesn't help, just undo the change you made to the config file
[05:38] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, i rebooted
[05:38] <histo> hpuser4466: for instance my laptop has function keys for backlight brightness controls.
[05:38] <hpuser4466> histo:  yes. tried the Fn + brightness button. Didn't work
[05:38] <bin_bash> and then changed it and then killed/restarted pulse
[05:38] <histo> hpuser4466: Does the onscreen notifier come on when you hit FN+brigthness up button?
[05:39] <histo> hpuser4466: I know on my particular laptop I'm unable to control brightness unless I pass some kernel options at boot. Bug with current kernels that will never be fixed for my hardware.
[05:39] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : ok man ... can't help you then ... sorry
[05:39] <apb1963_> how can I refresh the dhcp address assigned to me?  on windoze,  a simple ipconfig /release and/or plus /renew would do it... what would be the ubuntu equivalent?
[05:40] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  the dhclient command i think
[05:40] <hpuser4466> histo:  Ah, the kernel option sounds interesting. The brightness button shows nothing.
[05:40] <nitin__> hii , i am using apache 2
[05:40] <histo> apb1963_: sudo dhclient -r   will release and sudo dhclient   should renew
[05:41] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, I'm just uninstalling it.
[05:41] <bin_bash> eff this.
[05:41] <nitin__> when i have to open a app, i have to type 127.0.0.1:8000/admin/
[05:41] <histo> hpuser4466: well you'd have to troubleshoot I think there are some command line options with acpi to control brightness you can try first to see if your keymaps are wrong.
[05:41] <nitin__> how to configure the apache 2 so that whaen i type admin
[05:41] <nitin__> it will give the same result
[05:41] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : wait ...; uninstalling what ???
[05:41] <bin_bash> pulseaudio
[05:42] <hpuser4466> histo, thanks i'm looking into it.
[05:42] <histo> nitin__: what like you could type admin and it would link to 127.0.0.1:8000/admin  ??
[05:42] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, pulseaudio
[05:42] <dr_willis> every time ive seen someone uninstall pulse audio.. they seem to end up reinstalling  the whole system later
[05:42] <nitin__> histo: yes
[05:42] <Ben64> dr_willis: I have pulseaudio uninstalled and I'm having a great time
[05:42] <histo> hpuser4466: what model of laptop do you have?
[05:42] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : listen to dr_willis !!!
[05:43] <apb1963_> dr_willis thank you..
[05:43] <nitin__> histo: if i type it should redirect to 127.0.0.1:8000/admin
[05:43] <Ben64> dr_willis, bin_bash: the important thing is to make sure ___not___ to purge pulseaudio
[05:43] <dr_willis> Ben64:  we know how weird you are... ;)
[05:43] <hpuser4466> histo:  IBM Thinkpad R40e.
[05:43] <bin_bash> I don't have anything that depends on it, dr_willis. So, I think it's fine.
[05:43] <apb1963_> histo: thank you thank you thank you :)
[05:43] <bin_bash> I don't need pulseaudio. I just had it for skype to make it easier
[05:44] <histo> hpuser4466: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83965/ubuntu-10-04-cant-adjust-brightness-on-my-lenovo-thinkpad  I found this not sure if it applies
[05:44] <bin_bash> dr_willis, why would anyone do that? it doesn't make any sense. It's just an audio plugin.
[05:45] <Tex_Nick> bin_bsah : i would not do that ... if dr_willis warns against it, you would be wise to listen to him ;-)
[05:45] <histo> hpuser4466: I noticed on mine setting the /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness  value will change brightness. For instance mine ranges from 0-9
[05:46] <bin_bash> Tex_Nick, I know what I'm doing. I chose to install pulseaudio, I can choose to uninstall it.
[05:46] <bin_bash> What a ridiculous claim
[05:47] <dr_willis> are you even running ubuntu?
[05:47] <apb1963_> can someone provide root's standard PATH please?   I can't find sudo or dhclient
[05:47] <dr_willis> apb1963_:   they should be in /sbin/ or /usr/sbin i belive
[05:48] <hpuser4466> bin_bash: Another option is to try  a different sound card that's proven to work with your OS.
[05:48] <hpuser4466> had to do that with some pcs.
[05:48] <bin_bash> hpuser4466, it's a laptop lol
[05:48] <hpuser4466> no use flogging a dead horse as they say
[05:48] <hpuser4466> you can get a usb sound card
[05:48] <aeon-ltd> no guarantees that would work either though
[05:49] <mrsudoer> So, apparently I can't SSH into my ubuntu box until AFTER I've logged in through the GDM login screen. How can I get around this?
[05:49] <apb1963_> dr_willis tried those first already... no luck
[05:49] <bin_bash> hpuser4466, it's also a pulseaudio problem
[05:49] <bin_bash> dr_willis, what in ubuntu depends on pulseaudio?
[05:50] <jason766> well it depends
[05:50] <dr_willis> pulse audio is used by the unity and gnome desktops
[05:51] <bin_bash> I'm not using either.
[05:51] <dr_willis> and i asked are you even using ubuntu....
[05:52] <dr_willis> mrsudoer:  youa re using encrypted home partitions?
[05:52] <bin_bash> dr_willis, you're implying that in order to use ubuntu you have to be using either gnome or unity?
[05:52] <mrsudoer> dr_willis, yes...crap
[05:52] <dr_willis> bin_bash:  you aparently just like to argue when people ask you questions..  have a nice day.
[05:53] <bin_bash> I'm using ubuntu with openbox
[05:53] <mrsudoer> thanks dr_willis. I found a how-to fix here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[05:53] <dr_willis> mrsudoer:  there may be some work arounds - someone as asking a similer thing last week. he was checking out the askubuntu.com site for fixs
[05:53] <dr_willis> mrsudoer:  great.
[05:53] <jason766> see if that will work
[05:53] <apb1963_> can someone provide root's standard PATH please?   I can't find sudo or dhclient or locate....
[05:54] <apb1963_> as simple echo $PATH as root should do it :)
[05:56] <ubuntuguy123> Which version of Ubuntu, 12.04 or 12.10, is preferred for steam compatibility?
[05:57] <sqwishy> Why does the lightdm package seem to depend on unity?
[05:57] <OerHeks> 12.10 ubuntuguy123
[05:57] <Ben64> ubuntuguy123: either really
[05:57] <mrsudoer> brb, going to test this...
[05:57] <ubuntuguy123> OerHeks any idea why game performance is bad in Unity on 12.10?  I'm using the 310 driver.  In XFCE performance is great.
[05:58] <Ben64> ubuntuguy123: because unity
[05:58] <ubuntuguy123> So I should stick with XFCE?
[05:58] <Ben64> yeah or anything else that doesn't use your gpu
[05:58] <dr_willis> or use the steam desktop entry at the login screen  ubuntuguy123
[05:59] <mrsudoer> works now
[05:59] <mrsudoer> thanks :)
[05:59] <jason766> commands for LXTerminal please?
[06:00] <wiggmpk> I am trying to remove a shortcut in the Places menu within Rhythmbox, when I was selecting my music library I accidentally clicked music and moved the mouse and it created a second "Music" location in the left hand navigation "Places", it doesn't appear in Nautilus but it is bother me, any thoughts?
[06:00] <dr_willis> whagt commands  jason766 ?
[06:01] <OerHeks> jason766, default shortcut for Terminal in XUbuntu is super+T or Press Alt+F2, then type xfce4-terminal or xterm to run the terminal.
[06:03] <sqwishy> Why does the lightdm package seem to depend on unity?
[06:04] <apb1963_> seriously?  Nobody can tell me root's standard PATH?
[06:04] <jason766> key in bash
[06:04] <Tex_Nick> bin_bash : we can see you are trying to interact with the channel ... that's good ... however you seem to argue with everyone about their replys ... could i recommend a good read ... http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ... i don't mean that to insult you ... it's just a good read for everyone ... Eric Raymond is one ot the original developers of gnu/linux stuff, an old hacker ... it try to follow his article :)
[06:05] <dr_willis>   /sbin and /usr/sbin  are the 2 special parts  abd
[06:05] <apb1963_> and can you confirm whether that is where sudo and dhclient live please?
[06:05] <dr_willis> nope.. im on my phone
[06:05] <apb1963_> can anyone please?
[06:05] <dr_willis> try  /sbin/sudo  --help
[06:05] <apb1963_> I guess it wasn't installed
[06:05] <dr_willis> or use tab completion
[06:06] <apb1963_> ok, thank you
[06:06] <dr_willis>    /sbin/<tab>
[06:06] <apb1963_> yeah, it's not there
[06:06] <jason766> hi mergrd
[06:06] <mergerd> hai
[06:06] <apb1963_> but thank you
[06:07] <apb1963_> and dhclient ?
[06:07] <jason766> what on earth is that?
[06:07] <dr_willis>   /bin /sbin  /usr/sbin and /usr/bin are the 4 core directories in the paths
[06:07] <mergerd> dsomething host client
[06:08] <mergerd> ?
[06:09] <histo> apb1963_: dhclient wans't installaed?
[06:09] <histo> mergerd: dhclient is used to obtain an ip via dhcp
[06:12] <mrsudoer> Last question of the night :) So, I'm trying to connect to VNC through SSH and when I run the x11vnc (while the remote desktop is sitting at the graphical login screen), I get an error saying "x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue". Any idea on how to get x11vnc to work AT the login screen?
[06:13] <apb1963_> histo: I'm in the middle of an install.  sudo hasn't been installed - I don't know where dhclient lives so I don't know yet. I'm having a network issue that I'm trying to resolve by releasing the ip address that was assigned to my vmware adapter and is causing the install process to fail at the point of getting an IP from DHCP.
[06:13] <fbdystang> How do I run a php script?
[06:13] <dr_willis> mrsudoer:  x11vnc tries to share the current vidible desktop. when you ssh in it sets the display. so its sort of going in a loop.. do you really need to see the 'vidsible' desktop on the vnc server? if not. You can ssh in and run tightvnc or vnc4server instead
[06:14] <histo> open a new terminal and dhclient -r && dhclient
[06:14] <apb1963_> right... it can't find it with the current path set
[06:14] <apb1963_> so I guess it wasn't installed yet either?
[06:14] <histo> apb1963_: echo $PATH
[06:14] <apb1963_> yes
[06:14] <histo> apb1963_: What installer are you using?
[06:14] <dr_willis> if you source /etc/profile i think that will reset the path
[06:14] <apb1963_> "easy install"
[06:15] <Church> mrsudoer: i expanded shellscript that runs remotely as root x11vnc to connect to login manager's xauth with parameter: " -auth /var/run/lightdm/*/*"
[06:15] <histo> apb1963_: Okay what is easy install and where did you get that?
[06:15] <apb1963_> since you haven't heard of it... I have to assume it's part of vmware
[06:15] <Church> mrsudoer: after loging in you should be able on subsequent runs be able to connect normally as user without this parameter
[06:16] <histo> apb1963_: okay yes.  Did it boot to a GUI or a text based installer?
[06:16] <Gumby> hi all.  I am needing to compile a single kernel module after I have patched it.  Is there an easy way to do this so that I dont have to wait for a whole kernel to compile?
[06:16] <mrsudoer> Church, so I should add " -auth /var/run/lightdm/*/*" to my current x11vnc command when I SSH to my remote computer, once (as root). and it should work on subsequent connections?
[06:17] <apb1963_> I guess it's sort of a curses based gui I suppose
[06:17] <apb1963_> it's gui-ish :)
[06:17] <jason766> apb1963_ that's possible
[06:18] <Church> mrsudoer: well, that is what's in my vnc script that runs remote x11vnc / sets up ssh forwarding / runs local vncviewer, if i supply gdm param to script. works for me.
[06:18] <histo> apb1963_: okay and you are getting to a console by hitting alt+f2 through f3 right?
[06:18] <apb1963_> correct
[06:18] <histo> apb1963_: Well int he install if you go back to the menu you should be able to configure the network again.
[06:18] <apb1963_> I get the same failure message
[06:18] <histo> apb1963_: It will walk you through setting it up.
[06:19] <histo> apb1963_: What message is that?
[06:19] <Hackuin> Hey all :]
[06:19] <histo> Gumby: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/x181.html
[06:19] <mrsudoer> Church, sounds like my setup as well :) I'll give it a shot
[06:19] <Gumby> thanks histo, Ill have a read
[06:19] <Hackuin> Does, UCP is dropped?
[06:19] <apb1963_> histo: this one: http://snag.gy/98Bzt.jpg
[06:19] <histo> Gumby: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/rebuilding-a-single-kernel-module-595116/
[06:19] <mrsudoer> Church, the /*/* ...what's the first "*" do? I haven't seen a wildcard like that before..
[06:20] <dr_willis> Hackuin:  what?
[06:21] <Hackuin> Where is Ubuntu certification?
[06:21] <histo> apb1963_: any reason you can use the ubuntu iso file and instlal in vmware?  I'm not really familiar with this easy install or where you got it.  Nor do I know how you ahve vmware setup in regards to networking.
[06:21] <apb1963_> histo: there was another vm at one time and the isp has latched on to the mac.  Hence the bright idea to use dhclient to release the IP so that I can continue with the install and hopefully grasb it back
[06:22] <histo> apb1963_: well dhclient or dhcp3 has to be there for the installer to pull an ip
[06:22] <apb1963_> histo: Yes.  One machine... need two.  vmware is setup for bridging
[06:22] <histo> apb1963_: It's probably something in your settings disable bridging and restart the installer.
[06:23] <apb1963_> well that's certainly true enough... I'm assuming that the installer process is doing what it does to grab the address... problem is, from my ISP's point of view, the address is already assigned.
[06:23] <histo> apb1963_: Wait so you are trying to give the vm an external ip?
[06:23] <anonymousraptr> im having trouble keeping my display from going into suspend. i have changed the settings, but it does it anyway. can anyone help?
[06:23] <apb1963_> histo: yes sir
[06:23] <histo> anonymousraptr: X has a default suspend also I've found. Atleast on my debian box.
[06:24] <histo> apb1963_: does your isp allow you more than one ip? That's pretty unusual unless you have a business class static ip setup.
[06:24] <apb1963_> histo: I requested it, I paid for it.. they gave it to me.  $8 a month with tax and such.
[06:25] <apb1963_> 2 DHCP addresses
[06:25] <anonymousraptr> histo: im not sure if that means i cannot change it?
[06:25] <Fretta> I am trying to use DD utility. Can I use DD utility on a disk that is being used..?
[06:25] <apb1963_> I used to get it free.... then I started asking questions and they said "Hmmm... that's weird... you're not supposed to get 2 addresses..." and so now I pay for it.
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> Fretta: yeah, but it has risks i assume
[06:26] <dr_willis> Fretta:  not a great idea
[06:27] <icloud> i need help with wget, i am trying to download all the sub folders under a url (http://www.fullsack.com/gnnix/base/root/dist/usr/share/themes/Tgc-large/)
[06:27] <Fretta> aeon-ltd dr_willis good to know
[06:27] <rob_p> Fretta: It will bomb out if dd happens to access a sector that is being written to at the same time. Unmount the volume and then do your dd...
[06:27] <apb1963_> histo: So... the vmware guys suggested I clone the mac address already in use since it's been assigned an IP... since I apparently can't release the one in use.
[06:27] <icloud> i am using wget with -r -nd flag, but all i get is file rejected, it still try to traverse the entire tree, how should i avoid this? thanks
[06:27] <Hackuin> anonymousraptr: try molly-guard.
[06:27] <Fretta> rob_p: how could I dd if I only have one disk? should I create another disk using mkfs?
[06:28] <apb1963_> histo: can you tell me the syntax to set the mac address of an interface?
[06:28] <histo> apb1963_: Why not just choose a different mac for the vm and restart it?
[06:28] <apb1963_> I presume it can be done with ip
[06:28] <histo> apb1963_: that would release it.
[06:28] <apb1963_> I don't believe that's possible
[06:28] <histo> apb1963_: be alot easier for you than all this
[06:28] <Fretta> [create another disk] I mean [create another file system] rob_p
[06:29] <rob_p> Fretta: you need an *unmounted* volume, however you accomplish that is up to you
[06:29] <Fretta> rob_p: thanks
[06:29] <apb1963_> histo: as far as I know....vmware synthesizes macs... I don't get a choice.  I will ask though.
[06:29] <rob_p> Fretta: welcome...
[06:31] <apb1963_> histo: [22:27] <Veers> I dunno; I'd be concerned with finding that MAC that the ISP thinks you have apb1963_
[06:31] <histo> apb1963_: ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 hw ether de:ad:be:ef:c0:fe
[06:31] <histo> apb1963_: then bring the interface up ifconfig eth0 up
[06:31] <histo> Fretta: mkfs doesn't create disks
[06:32] <apb1963_> histo: ifconfig was not installed... is it possible to use ip instead, and if so... how?
[06:32] <Fretta> his to [create another disk] I mean [create another file system]
[06:32] <Fretta> histo: ^^^
[06:32] <apb1963_> ip was installed
[06:32] <histo> Fretta: yes and you shouldn't use dd on a mounted filessytem
[06:33] <Tex_Nick> icloud : what url ?
[06:33] <Fretta> histo: got it
[06:33] <icloud> Tex_Nick, http://www.fullsack.com/gnnix/base/root/dist/usr/share/themes/Tgc-large/
[06:33] <Wug> so what the hell is "iso-scan/filename=....." supposed to mean in boot prompts
[06:33] <icloud> Tex_Nick, just trying to grab the large theme since it does not come with xubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <Wug> its not in any man page or online documentation
[06:33] <icloud> Tex_Nick, everything look so small
[06:34] <icloud> Tex_Nick,  so i tried wget -r http://www.fullsack.com/gnnix/base/root/dist/usr/share/themes/Tgc-large -nd -R index.html, and basically wget still try to crawl the entire tree and just print to screen file is suppose to be rejected
[06:35] <Tex_Nick> icloud : hold on checking
[06:36] <mike400hp> hello.. i am hoping that someone might be able to help me
[06:36] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, details please.
[06:36] <mike400hp> I use  ubuntu 12.1 on my laptop  with no problems..
[06:36] <cfhowlett> !details|mike400hp,
[06:36] <mike400hp> I decided to try it on my office desktop
[06:36] <BillyZane> hi
[06:37] <mike400hp> the install took over two hours installing from USB 3 flash drive
[06:37] <cfhowlett> BillyZane, greetings
[06:37] <BillyZane> ty cfhowlett
[06:37] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, what are the specifications of that office computer?
[06:37] <mike400hp> now that it is installed, it runs extremely slow and crashes all the time
[06:38] <mrsudoer> Church, I don't know exactly how that paramter operatres, but it worked for me so thank you :)
[06:38] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, hardware specs???
[06:38] <roger__> mike, specs?
[06:39] <nearst> hi ppl
[06:39] <KI4RO> mike400hp, What make, model etc is the office computer
[06:39] <mike400hp> the office desktop has:.... Intel DX58S02 motherboard, Sixcore Intel processor, 24GB RAM, OCZ SSD, nvidia 660ti
[06:39] <cfhowlett> nearst, greetiings
[06:40] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, with those specs, this thing should be dancing.  did you md5sum verify the iso?
[06:40] <nearst> ty cfhowlett
[06:40] <mike400hp> I'm using the same flash drive that I used for my laptop install and the laptop is fine
[06:41] <roger__> i'm noob but, swapdrive?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> mike400hp,  every so often a question may be directed your way so that we may problem solve.  For best results, answer the questions ...
[06:42] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, with those specs, this thing should be dancing.  did you md5sum verify the iso?
[06:42] <Hackuin> mike400hp: confirm your architecture of lap and your office desktop is same? I did faced long time ago, installing a 32 bit OS on 64 bit system which has high hardware configurations...
[06:42] <KI4RO> !swapdrive : roger__
[06:42] <mike400hp> During the install,  I used the advanced partitioning options.. I removed all the windows partitions on the SSD and told ubunto to use the entire SSD
[06:43] <KI4RO> !swapdrive | roger__
[06:43] <BillyZane> I have a problem with my network. I've so far been able to view the computers on my network with no issues, however, I can no longer view my windows 7 in my network. I was told to use samba, but I feel that it shouldn't be necessary, as I've never needed it before. Regarding recent changes to my computer, I have recently typed: "mv /home/riz/.gtkrc-2.0 /home/riz/.gtkrc-2.0.BAK"
[06:43] <mike400hp> Both are using the 32bit version
[06:44] <roger__> I'd install again using 64-bit, also may have been just a bum install?
[06:44] <roger__> I'm noob though so get 2nd opinion
[06:44] <icloud> Tex_Nick, any luck? i am off to bed soon
[06:44] <histo> BillyZane: open a terminal ctrl+alt+t and type in smbtree hit enter see if it shows your 7 box and it's shares
[06:44] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, yo.  mike.  DID YOU VERIFY THE ISO?
[06:44] <BillyZane> hi histo :)
[06:44] <BillyZane> will do
[06:45] <BillyZane> yes, I can see it
[06:45] <mike400hp> I tried the 64 bit version on my laptop but found that there were a lot of programs that didn't like it
[06:45] <BillyZane> it shows my other computer on there
[06:45] <mike400hp> no i did not verify the iso
[06:45] <icloud> cfhowlett, LOL i don't think he knows what you are talking about
[06:45] <KI4RO> roger__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[06:45] <Church> mrsudoer: you need to be able to connect to x server using x authentification. problem being, that login manager runs as root and only after loging in it launches x server under user account with dropped priviledges with user accessible xauth files. so until you've logged in you need root to get access to those root's yet xauth files.
[06:46] <Hanmac_> hi i looking for a Crosscompile with Multiarch channel ... i want to test if my stuff work on i385
[06:46] <dirtydevil> I connected one TV-out camera to my ubuntu laptop, it is showing as a USB Mass Storage device , I want to get it as /dev/video , can anybody guide?
[06:46] <histo> BillyZane: then you should be able to browse to it with the file browser.  or you can hit ctrl+l in your file browser and smb://nameofcomputer
[06:46] <Hanmac_> i mean i386
[06:46] <Tex_Nick> icloud:  the directory http://www.fullsack.com/gnnix/base/root/dist/usr/share/themes/Tgc-large/xfwm4/ ... contains about 50 files ... you want to get all those files ?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> icloud, thought of that, but I'd prefer to assume he just didn't see my query or didn't want to answer ..
[06:46] <BillyZane> ok, one sec
[06:46] <histo> Hanmac_: there is no i386 ver of ubuntu anymore.
[06:46] <icloud> Tex_Nick, yeah all those files makes one theme
[06:47] <BillyZane> histo: I am there, i can view it!
[06:47] <BillyZane> histo: I just don't understand why the network icon is gone
[06:47] <Hanmac_> histo but i can install i386 packages on a amd64 system
[06:47] <histo> BillyZane: Which network icon?
[06:47] <Ben64> what he means is there isn't anything that runs on i386 anymore
[06:47] <histo> Hanmac_: you mean x86
[06:47] <icloud> Tex_Nick, but wget keeps on crawling the entire dir tree, i like to know how to avoid it
[06:47] <histo> Ben64: yeah and they are dropping i386 from linux kernel in 3.8
[06:47] <BillyZane> histo: in the file manager, on the left side, there was a bar called network, clicking on it let me see my workgroup, and computers attached to it.
[06:47] <mike400hp> I could try making another flash drive for the install and verify the ISO but I think since it worked for my laptop that it would be good
[06:48] <Hanmac_> histro yeah (but you use package:i386 for it)
[06:48] <apb1963_> histo:  No help on using ip to change mac address? Again... ifconfig isn't installed
[06:48] <Ben64> Hanmac_: i don't think you quite get it
[06:48] <Tex_Nick> icloud:  sorry had to run off for a bit ... give me i minute to take care os something
[06:48] <Ben64> Hanmac_: 32bit != i386
[06:48] <BillyZane> histo: i can see you're busy, i'll wait till it cools down
[06:48] <icloud> Tex_Nick, np, thanks for your help
[06:48] <Hanmac_> histo is there an tutorial or channel for crosscompiling with multiarch?
[06:49] <histo> BillyZane: I'm not busy I can handle multiple conversations.
[06:49] <mike400hp> So any other ideas what could be the problem causing slow performance?
[06:49] <histo> BillyZane: what happens when you click network now?
[06:49] <BillyZane> histo: the network icon isn't there
[06:49] <histo> apb1963_: Your problem is with vmware not ubuntu btw.
[06:50] <cfhowlett> mike400hp, you DID install the 64 bit version, right?
[06:50] <Hanmac_> histo & Ben64 the packages are tagged with i386 under ubuntu >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/tiled/download
[06:50] <KI4RO> Hanmac_, http://www.lshift.net/blog/2012/06/17/using-debian-multiarch-for-cross-compiling
[06:50] <mike400hp> no... i used the 32bit. .I'm aware of the 4GB address limit
[06:50] <histo> BillyZane: are you using ubuntu? and which version?
[06:51] <apb1963_> histo: the problem is with my ISP and possibly vmware... however, they suggest cloning the mac address and I would do that if ifconfig were installed.  I'm not trying to lay blame... simply trying to get it to work
[06:51] <BillyZane> histo: the network's integrity is fine. I was able to use VNC earlier. Using your method, I can access it. However, this seems to be a problem purely related to the file manager software not displaying icons.
[06:51] <histo> Hanmac_: are you referring to x86 vs 64bit?
[06:51] <BillyZane> histo: I am using 12.10, and I am using xfce 4.10
[06:51] <histo> BillyZane: ahh so you are using thunar.
[06:51] <BillyZane> yes
[06:51] <apb1963_> histo: I'll assume it can't be done with the ip command.  Thank you anyway you've been  most kind.
[06:52] <histo> BillyZane: I don't have thunar installed to help you troubleshoot what happened to the network shortcut. You can try in #xubuntu they may be of more help.
[06:52] <BillyZane> ok, thank you so much
[06:52] <histo> apb1963_: No issue is your isp most likely or your vmware settings or the stupid easy installer you are using which isn't supported here. Either way it's all way off topic for this room.
[06:53] <Hanmac_> histo yeah i think that is what i mean
[06:53] <apb1963_> histo:  I simply asked how to change the mac address in ubuntu using the ip command.  :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> i thought the ethtool command can do that
[06:54] <histo> apb1963_: What ip command?
[06:54] <lupeng> I sit in my cubicle, here on the motherworld. When I die, they will put my body in a box and dispose of it in the cold ground. And in all the million ages to come, I will never breathe, or laugh, or twitch again. So won't you run and play with me here among the teeming mass of humanity? The universe has spared us this moment.
[06:54] <apb1963_> rumor has it that ifconfig is deprecated and perhaps replaced by "ip"
[06:54] <histo> apb1963_: Oh on the installer
[06:55] <dr_willis> ive never seen that memo on that apb1963_  ;)
[06:55] <apb1963_> histo: no.  It's part of ubuntu and other versions of linux
[06:55] <apb1963_> dr_willis: someone in here mentioned it.
[06:55] <histo> apb1963_: it would be much easier to change the settings of the vm you would have been done 1/2 hour ago
[06:55] <Hackuin> dr_willis: & greeting
[06:55] <apb1963_> dr_willis: ifconfig isn't installed on ubuntu at this point in time and hence part of the problem
[06:56] <dr_willis> hmm... it was installed last time i inatelled 12.10 i thought
[06:56] <dr_willis> !find ifconfig
[06:56] <icloud> Tex_Nick, let's resume tomorrow, off to bed
[06:56] <apb1963_> histo: what settings?  I am unable to change the mac through vmware... as I explained before, they synthesize one and I am unable to choose.
[06:57] <Tex_Nick> icloud : hey man i have a bad problem here ... coyotes scared the goats ... goats broke through fence ... i have to round up thegoats
[06:57] <dr_willis> !info libnet-ifconfig-wrapper-perl
[06:58] <apb1963_> ok guys... yo're both clearly too busy to pay attention to my problem...I get that.  Thank you for trying, I appreciate your patience.
[06:58] <dr_willis> looks like ifconfig may be a wrapper scxript to some other commands now.
[06:58] <dr_willis> i thought you used ethtool to change macs anyway ;)
[06:58] <apb1963_> ethtool is also not installed yet
[06:59] <histo> apb1963_: I'm trying to google your problem. If you could have some patience
[06:59] <apb1963_> histo:  sure.  Thank you
[07:00] <apb1963_> I did find a page on changing the mac, but it involved editing some files having to do with udev and persistance and such.... I was hoping to use ip since it seems a whole lot simpler
[07:00] <apb1963_> But if it can't be done, it can't be done.
[07:01] <apb1963_> ifconfig would have been the way to go... but it's simply not installed yet.
[07:01] <histo> apb1963_: why not trying to specify an ip address manually in the installer?
[07:01] <apb1963_> well that's a thought
[07:02] <apb1963_> a very interesting thought
[07:02] <histo> apb1963_: Or actually trying the ubuntu installer instead of the "easy install"  Perhaps there is a bug with that.
[07:02] <apb1963_> not sure I have a choice on that
[07:02] <histo> apb1963_: You should hit cancel when it's trying to dhcp
[07:03] <histo> apb1963_: and then setup manually Or it should give you the option after dhcp fails
[07:03] <histo> apb1963_: but again thats with the normal ubuntu installer
[07:03] <apb1963_> I like the idea of manually using the ip address they already assigned through dhcp to a different mac... but hmmm... no... that prolly won't work now that I think about it...  wrong mac I imagine
[07:04] <apb1963_> cloning would work... I had elastix installed and it had the exact same problem... but they provided a cloning button that made it simple.
[07:05] <histo> apb1963_: Go in the router and release the other one that got assigned that ip.
[07:05] <apb1963_> I have no router... just a cable modem that doesn't allow me to go into it.
[07:05] <histo> apb1963_: virtualbox you can specify a mac for the virtual adpater. I'm suprised vmware doesn't have this option.
[07:05] <histo> apb1963_: Well then how are multiple ips assinged.
[07:06] <apb1963_> histo: if it exists, the vmware guys aren't talking about it
[07:06] <histo> apb1963_: External ones that is.
[07:06] <histo> apb1963_: I thihnk you really need to check with your ISP that you have multiple ips.
[07:07] <apb1963_> They TOLD me the IPs and their associated macs... one of the macs exists... it's my physical NIC... the other... we're guessing it belonged to the previous VM I had running, and is locked in.
[07:08] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: I only half read what your trying, but why isnt NAT an option?
[07:09] <BillyZane> histo: For your continued education, the problem I had regarding the network icon is a common bug in Thunar. It can be fixed with the following commands: "killall Thunar" and "thunar --daemon &"
[07:09] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: it is... technically.  And is one of the options I plan to try... however, I can only explore one option at a time... currently I'm exploring the "clone mac" option which is apparently running out of steam.
[07:10] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: ok, but can you help me understand your situation? you have a static IP from your ISP?
[07:10] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: dhcp
[07:11] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: what are you trying to accomplish? you have more than 1 machine and no router?
[07:11] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: it's locked onto a previous virtual machine's mac address like a pitbull.
[07:12] <xa0z> Hello, how can I install the kernel headers for 3.4.0  ?
[07:12] <kepler> apb1963_, which modem is it?
[07:12] <apb1963_> kepler: scientific atlanta
[07:12] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: "what" is locked on the MAC addy? the modem?
[07:12] <kepler> did you unplug it completely and plug it in? that normally clears the MAC it is using
[07:12] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: the ip address
[07:13] <apb1963_> kepler: I'm trying to find a software solution first... yours is another option I intend to try.  Just running down the clone mac address from start to finish first.
[07:14] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: can you explain your network infrastructure a little more? you have a modem, connected to what?
[07:14] <apb1963_> by the way... turns out dhclient is in fact installed... however dhclient -r ; dhclient didn't do the job
[07:15] <geniusdouble1> thx
[07:15] <apb1963_> One PC, running XP Pro SP3 connected to a residential cable modem.  VMware Player.  Trying to install ubuntu as a guest OS.
[07:16] <histo> apb1963_: dhclient -r   Just releases an assigned ip.  dhclient by itselt then will renew it after that. However in your instance I dont' believe an ip was ever assigned. You aren't making much sense.
[07:16] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: and the HOST OS (XP) is NOT able to get an IP address? is that correct?
[07:16] <apb1963_> host OS has an IP
[07:16] <histo> apb1963_: Yeah if you have residential cable. You dont' ahve multiple public ips
[07:17] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: but you cant get an IP with the guest? ubuntu?
[07:17] <histo> apb1963_: also you should be able to configure your cable modem via the internal web address for the gateway.
[07:17] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: semi-correct.  My ISP thinks I already have 2 IPs assigned.
[07:17] <kepler> for my router, i use http://goo.gl/5CSCm running pfsense, WAN into one port, LAN out to switch
[07:17] <wiggmpk> histo: depending on the provider thats not entirely true
[07:17] <histo> apb1963_: if you ifconfig /all on your windows box you can find the gateway of your router.
[07:17] <histo> wiggmpk: Residential service with multiple static IPs??? Via who?
[07:18] <histo> sign me up
[07:18] <kernsprog> currently avoiding 12.10 for the simple reason that i can not seem to rid of the little error box that randomly pops up on screen stating and error. especially happens upon system login and boot.
[07:18] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: you'll have to talk to tech support (not the first people you call) for your ISP and have them manually delete the lease. You will probably have to have it escalated and wait 3-4 days
[07:18] <wiggmpk> histo: he said he's using DHCP
[07:18] <kepler> wiggmpk, he hasn't power cycled the modem yet. that'd do it
[07:18] <wiggmpk> histo: residential = DHCP 99.99% of the time
[07:19] <wiggmpk> kepler: not if the lease doesnt expire, but it's possible
[07:19] <histo> wiggmpk: You need to read scrollback. He wants an external ip assigned ot the guest
[07:19] <wiggmpk> histo: I want Fiber speeds too, but chances are it isnt gonna happen with a residential service.. usually its a fluke when you pull more than 1 IP and arent paying for that service
[07:20] <dr_willis> kernsprog:  error box? you mean the 'a system error ahas accord.. do you wan tto report...' thing?
[07:20] <apb1963_> [22:21] <histo> apb1963_: does your isp allow you more than one ip? That's pretty unusual unless you have a business class static ip setup. [22:21] <apb1963_> histo: I requested it, I paid for it.. they gave it to me.  $8 a month with tax and such. [22:22] <apb1963_> 2 DHCP addresses
[07:20] <kernsprog> dr_willis: yes, that.
[07:20] <kernsprog> very annoying.
[07:20] <dr_willis> kernsprog:  rather trivial to disable...
[07:21] <dr_willis> its the apport system/tool
[07:21] <kernsprog> how?
[07:21] <histo> apb1963_: Like I said your ISP needs to drop the lease then
[07:21] <dr_willis> i recall   the proper way at teh askubuntu.com site  i forget the package to remove
[07:21] <dr_willis> !info apport
[07:21] <histo> apb1963_: or you need to use ifconfig to clone the mac of the other box that had the other ip
[07:21] <dr_willis> it might be that one. ;)
[07:21] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: kk, missed that part. I would try kepler's advice and power cycle the modem. if it doesnt work your gonna have to have IT do it
[07:22] <apb1963_> I think it's time to go ahead and take the hardware option and power cycle the modem.
[07:22] <kernsprog> dr_willis: thank you. will check that out.
[07:22] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: is there any particular reason why you HAVE to have an external IP for a guest VM?
[07:22] <apb1963_> histo: they won't do that
[07:22] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: Yes. Planning to install asterisk.
[07:22] <prototype> hey all
[07:23] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: and that requires a WAN facing IP?
[07:23] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: highly preferable, but not required.
[07:23] <jackwu> when new ubuntu  will be released?
[07:23] <prototype> i m beggner i am not able to install ns2 in ubuntu12.4   some one can help me
[07:23] <prototype> ??
[07:23] <dr_willis> whats ns2?
[07:24] <dr_willis> !info ns2
[07:24] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: nat causes all kinds of issues that just go away with a public ip
[07:24] <dr_willis> if its that one..    sudo apt-get install ns2
[07:25] <prototype> thank u freinds for ur kind help i really aperciate
[07:25] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: for a VoIP system?
[07:25] <apb1963_> I'm not optimistic on the  modem power cycling, as the modem doesn't hold the dhcp server...  So I suspect all that will happen is the ip address will simply get reassigned to the same mac address.
[07:25] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: Correct.
[07:26] <apb1963_> wiggmpk: pbx actually would be more correct.
[07:26] <apb1963_> but I could be wrong... which is why I'm happy to  give it a shot
[07:26] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: i think maybe the issues you would have from using NAT might take less time to solve than the time you spent trying to solve your current problem hehe, gluck mate
[07:27] <wiggmpk> apb1963_: now yank that power plug lol
[07:27] <apb1963_> no, NAT is a bear with asterisk... been there.. done that.  it's a nightmare...  you have to worry about not just signaling packets, but audio packets and it's... trust me... this is easier.
[07:29] <apb1963_> another option is to install with nat so as to get everything in stalled...... then switch over to bridged configuration and muck about at that point.  Then I'll have ifconfig installed and everything else.
[07:30] <apb1963_> but cloning at this point in time would have been the preferred option
[07:30] <apb1963_> I thank you all for all of your wonderful suggestions
[07:30] <apb1963_> You're all scholars and gents
[07:30] <wiggmpk> <--- is an idiot =P
[07:30] <apb1963_> see you soon :)
[07:32] <wiggmpk> Alright, lets see if someone can help me with Rhythmbox. If you click browse in preferences to select your library location, on the left hand navi I have 2 instances of "Music" in Places, how do I remove one?
[07:41] <kernsprog> cheers all
[07:42] <`ingsoc> Hello, something keeps changing /etc/resolv.conf. I've added the line 'dns-nameservers ip1 ip2' to /etc/network/interfaces, but those dns servers get pushed down in /etc/resolve.conf. Like it's getting that information from elsewhere or something. Does anyone have any ideas?
[07:44] <psychotropic> ingsoc - Are you using any 3rd party monitoring programs or anything, like ISPConfig?
[07:45] <`ingsoc> psychotropic: I don't think I am. I've got a Debian computer connected to the same network and it doesn't happen there. I've got the feeling I may have set it somewhere in the past that I've forgotten about, but I can't for the life of me remember where/if that's possible.
[07:45] <`ingsoc> psychotropic: It seems to happen as soon as I login.
[07:47] <psychotropic> What's the output of your hosts file?
[07:47] <Ben64> `ingsoc: check in /etc/resolvconf
[07:48] <psychotropic> Also, etc/hosts or etc/hostname perhaps
[07:49] <kepler> do you have dnsmasq disaabled?
[07:50] <kepler> edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf     put # in front of the dnsmasq line, then sudo restart network-manager
[07:52] <`ingsoc> Hmm.
[07:52] <`ingsoc> I'll try that.
[07:52] <`ingsoc> What is the purpose of dnsmasq?
[07:52] <`ingsoc> Or that line anyway.
[07:54] <kepler> it is locally cached dns
[07:54] <kepler> so your dns server would probably end up 127.0.1.1 or something
[07:54] <kepler> if you did nslookup to something before you restarted it
[08:00] <wiggmpk> If anyone can tell me how to correct this http://s835.beta.photobucket.com/user/wiggmpk/media/Untitled-1.jpg.html would be much appreciated
[08:02] <kepler> right click and unlock the panel and right click it and remove it?
[08:02] <wiggmpk> kepler its from within Rhythmbox, when you select your library.. doesnt appear in Nautilus.. Also found the same problem in Gimp, multiple locations declared twice
[08:03] <afidegnum> hello, pls can anyone help me to download this module, ? http://drupal.org/sandbox/bradjmsu/1370844     I have problem running git on my windows PC.
[08:03] <sander> if I install libboost-dev would this install also the .a (static libs) somewhere?
[08:03] <iceroot> afidegnum: we dont support windows pcs
[08:04] <afidegnum> no, I just want to download the file, it's a php file where I supposed to run git on linux
[08:04] <jackwu> there is a tool for paste error form terminal to a web than let me to show others, what is the name of the tool?
[08:04] <kepler> wiggmpk, dont think you cant. looks like a default thing
[08:04] <iceroot> jackwu: pastebinit
[08:04] <wiggmpk> kepler: if I select any location below the last separator and right click it, I have the option to remove or rename, but the middle section is grayed out when I right click.
[08:05] <afidegnum> any hand ?
[08:05] <wiggmpk> kepler: I actually accidentally added the location
[08:05] <iceroot> afidegnum: still dont get what your real question is
[08:05] <iceroot> afidegnum: how to install git on ubuntu? or what is your issue?
[08:05] <afidegnum> I would like to download the file form the posted url via git,
[08:05] <afidegnum> but I can't do it at my end. if you can please help get the file
[08:06] <afidegnum> and transfer it to me
[08:06] <iceroot> afidegnum: and why you cant do it?
[08:06] <iceroot> afidegnum: just install git
[08:06] <afidegnum> I can't run git on my system, I did installed it, but it still have problem
[08:06] <iceroot> afidegnum: and what is this problem?
[08:06] <wiggmpk> kepler: i tried removing ~/.local/share/rhythmbox  and ~/.cache/rhythmbox  and it didnt work, so the link is saved somewhere else
[08:07] <iceroot> wiggmpk: its a gtk thing, all gtk apps will use this settings
[08:07] <kepler> wiggmpk, yeah, i just added my home and music, can't figure out how to get rid of them
[08:07] <iceroot> wiggmpk: gimp, rythmbox, firefox and so on should all use it
[08:07] <wiggmpk> kepler: oh buddy, and I have OCD badly lol
[08:07] <afidegnum> it runs, hang off and close, it create the file folder with no content. except a readme file and .git file
[08:07] <wiggmpk> iceroot: any clue where this info is saved? cause this will literally make me reinstall ubuntu (OCD)
[08:08] <makara> afidegnum, what's the url? let me try
[08:09] <afidegnum> git clone http://git.drupal.org/sandbox/bradjmsu/1370844.git expiring_private_file_link
[08:09] <iceroot> wiggmpk: sorry dont know
[08:10] <makara> afidegnum, I get a folder with a readme.txt file
[08:10] <wiggmpk> iceroot: any idea what you call something like this? for googleing purposes
[08:10] <makara> afidegnum, what are you trying to do? where did you get the url
[08:10] <iceroot> wiggmpk: gtk file dialog bookmarks
[08:10] <wiggmpk> iceroot: thanks mate
[08:10] <afidegnum> yes, makara here is the original link http://drupal.org/sandbox/bradjmsu/1370844
[08:11] <wiggmpk> iceroot: would they be verbatim across all applications that use it? because gimp vs rhythmbox are different
[08:12] <iceroot> wiggmpk: dont know if rythmbox is gtk too but imo all gtk apps should be affected which are using the gtk dialog
[08:13] <makara> afidegnum, try find another plugin. No commit since 2011. Looks dead
[08:14] <afidegnum> hmm, ok
[08:14] <gac> afidegnum: also, if you read the README, it tells you to check out one of the other branches
[08:14] <gac> so have a look at the manual for git-branch, and work out how to check out what you actually need :)
[08:15] <afidegnum> ok, let me check
[08:15] <gac> hmm, although there doesn't seem to be any other branches...
[08:16] <somsip> afidegnum: if you are looking for other branches in a newly cloned repo: 'git branch -a'
[08:16] <crack> = =hello
[08:16] <gac> somsip: ah, that's why I couldn't see them, i forgot the -a
[08:16] <gac> new git user, haven't quite figured it out yet ;)
[08:17] <afidegnum> somsip: ok, working on it,
[08:17] <crack> = =有木有人。
[08:17] <somsip> !zh | crack
[08:17] <tcope> having issues installing grub2 on a 12.10 system with linux raid on /dev/md0p1  /boot .. when running update-grub it returns grub-probe error cant find physical vol (NULL) .. did not have this issue with prev distros has any one else experienced this and is and found a solution ?
[08:17] <somsip> afidegnum: gac: np
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !cn|crack,
[08:18] <crack> hello，我不想说英文，你们说中文把。
[08:19] <prologic> Heya all. I cannot find information on this; Regarding the upcoming Ubuntu Phones (in Oct) -- Will they come with Compiz Fusion and eZoom for accessibility for the vision impaired (with suitable gestures?)?
[08:19] <Ben64> !phone | prologic
[08:19] <prologic> ben1066, yes thank you - I said I cannot find the information I'm looking for
[08:20] <crack> what？
[08:20] <cfhowlett> crack, english only in this channel ...
[08:21] <dr_willis> prologic:  look at the  artical on the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog site... it may not come with either. ;)
[08:22] <dr_willis> prologic:  no official info has really been released yet.
[08:22] <prologic> dr_willis, like I said - read/googled, etc - cannot find what I'm looknig for
[08:22] <crack>  = =,my english is so bad
[08:22] <prologic> can't even find any decent information on Ubuntu Phone + Accessibility
[08:22] <prologic> I guess I'm going to have to ask Canonical themselves
[08:22] <dr_willis> prologic:  then no one knows.  since nothing has been released
[08:22] <Hutu_Ry> ...
[08:22] <prologic> yeah
[08:23] <prologic> thought maybe some of you might have some inside info :)
[08:23] <dr_willis> supposed to be this month for the code release.  ;) personally i will belive in it.. when i see it in the stores....
[08:23] <cfhowlett> prologic, this is NOT the phone info channel.  please go where your were directed for best results.  It's there for uyou.
[08:23] <dr_willis> crack:  what is your native language?
[08:24] <prologic> cfhowlett, dont' be rude - I'm only have a conversation - sharing what little we know
[08:24] <Hutu_Ry> ...
[08:24] <kepler> !off-topic
[08:24] <crack> chinese
[08:24] <dr_willis> !zn
[08:25] <sander> if I install libboost-dev would this install also the .a (static libs) somewhere?
[08:25] <dr_willis> heh..  what was that factoid...
[08:25] <Hutu_Ry> hi ... MR. crack...
[08:25] <dr_willis> sander:  i think so,
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !cn|crack,
[08:25] <DamienCassou> hi, I have i915 Intel graphics card on Ubuntu 12.10. My game uses libGL and it looks like it uses Mesa which is slow. Can I get better performances?
[08:25] <crack> yes
[08:26] <sander> dr_willis, I don't see any libboost_system.a in /usr/lib any idea where they should live?
[08:26] <dr_willis> sander:  try 'sudo updatedb'  then 'locate libboost'
[08:26] <crack> <Hutu_Ry>hello
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[08:31] <apb1963_> If anyone's interested... my network issue has been resolved
[08:31] <dr_willis> you used the Dinomite? ;)
[08:31] <kepler> apb1963_, what did it?
[08:31] <Tex_Nick> prologic : have a look at this ... http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com/msg06259.html
[08:32] <apb1963_> vmware guys suddenly remembered how to change the mac address
[08:32] <Tex_Nick> whoops ... he's gone
[08:33] <apb1963_> so... the problem was ultimately that my ISP is caching my MAC address.... and refused to do anything about it since I had both IP's already assigned.
[08:34] <histo> sander: find / -iname "libboost*" 2>/dev/null
[08:34] <apb1963_> Thank you once again, to all that had suggestions.
[08:35] <apb1963_> this is the kind of thing that would cause a lesser man to go buy a bunch of guns and take hostages
[08:36]  * cfhowlett heard a *ping* alarm go off at NSA monitoring ...
[08:36] <apb1963_> lol
[08:36] <apb1963_> I said "lesser man"
[08:37] <apb1963_> Now I must go nurse my headache.
[08:37] <apb1963_> have a good night all
[08:38] <Tex_Nick> too much rage nowdays :(
[08:39] <MindSpark> rage? did I enter the wrong channel?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> oh good its nice and quiet in here :)
[08:40] <peterrooney> Being reasonable normally proves ineffective against systematic incompetence.
[08:40] <gnomefreak> MindSpark: what channel were you looking for?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> can we please keep the channel for support and all offtopic to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <MindSpark> this one :). But you know, when ubuntu started, it was about "Linux for human beings" and all that stuff. Now the first message that popped up when I joined was "too much rage nowadays"
[08:42] <MindSpark> gnomefreak: agreed
[08:42] <Hutu_Ry> ...
[08:44] <makara> the lesser man...
[08:45] <dr_willis> 'rage  against the virtual machine'
[08:45] <Tex_Nick> MindSpark:  i posted that ... and gnomefreak is right, it was off-topic ... regarded a parting message by a user
[08:46] <wiggmpk> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[08:46] <wiggmpk> oops.... wrong box
[08:46] <MindSpark> Tex_Nick: ah ok :) was just trying to understand what it was about
[08:47] <cfhowlett> wiggmpk, type carefully ...
[08:48] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: ?, stupid touchpad on my laptop... palm of my hand hits it sometimes and switches where im typing
[08:48] <Hutu_Ry> ...
[08:48] <cfhowlett> wiggmpk, there's a setting in mouse/keypad to modify such behavior
[08:49] <dr_willis> Hutu_Ry:  is ther a support question you wish to ask?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> i never got used to using a touchpad, my fingers are too big, it does its own thing so i use a mouse
[08:50]  * gnomefreak wsa wondering what "..." means
[08:50] <dr_willis> ...---...  ;)
[08:50] <gnomefreak> s/wsa/was
[08:50] <dr_willis> perhaps hes just shy.
[08:51] <gnomefreak> see your point
[08:51] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: aye, but im like laying down, so I pressed it before I was typing and wasnt really looking at 'where' I was typing till I heard the bleep sound.. jupiter "usually" just disables my touchpad when I login, but I think I broke it
[08:53] <nav_> please guide me about bandwith management
[08:53] <nav_> i m using 12.04
[08:54] <dr_willis> and what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[08:54] <nav_> please guide me about bandwith management
[08:54] <dr_willis> and what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> nav_, might want to take this to #ubuntu-server ????
[08:57] <Tex_Nick> !details | nav_
[08:57] <nav_> thanks for reply
[08:58] <sunsetlover> hello every one
[08:58] <nav_> i am using ubuntu server 12.04
[08:58] <sunsetlover> please i need to know how to change the cursor color
[08:58] <nav_> i want to manage the bandwith of internet to a particular ip in my network
[08:59] <dr_willis> sunsetlover:  i normally just use differnt cursor themes. Im not sure of a way to just change its color. without a new theme
[09:00] <dr_willis> theres several cursor themes in the repos.
[09:00] <gnomefreak> there are curser packages in the archive and im pretty sure one or two of them can change color
[09:00] <cfhowlett> I thought he meant at the CLI
[09:01] <bloodriver> sunlover: I like 'Flatbed cusors'
[09:02] <Nahiyan> I don't have a seperate /boot partition and I get this error on grub-install: "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB  on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."
[09:02] <Nahiyan> I'm trying to install on a GPT HDD, on BIOS (no EFI). I chrooted to its root partition and still, same thing
[09:02] <Nahiyan> I've already made a 4MB partition with the grub_bios flag starting at 1M, ending at 5M
[09:02] <Nahiyan> Any help?
[09:02] <Tex_Nick> nav_:  cfhowlett probably pointed you in the right direction ... /join #ubuntu-server
[09:03] <erikja> !shortcut
[09:03] <funhouse> Hi there, just trying to do upgrade/update and getting this error-> Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main apparmor amd64 2.7.102-0ubuntu3.4 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Nahiyan, I had to kill the boot partition of a HDD that previously had a hackintosh on it ... GPT
[09:04] <funhouse> Any ideas?
[09:04] <wiggmpk> I lost the ability to hold ALT and use the mouse to grab a window to reposition it, any idea where this setting is?
[09:04] <Nahiyan> funhouse, sounds like it can't download it..
[09:04] <cfhowlett> funhouse, redirect your software sources .. that mirror may be down
[09:04] <dr_willis> wiggmpk:  weird. I thought it was a feature of X.. i wasent even sure it could be disabled. ;)
[09:05] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: seems everything hates me tonight
[09:05] <Nahiyan> funhouse, try $ wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  precise-security/main apparmor amd64 2.7.102-0ubuntu3.4
[09:05] <Nahiyan> umm
[09:05] <Nahiyan> replace the spaces with dashes
[09:06] <cfhowlett> Nahiyan, http://johnlewis.ie/converting-to-gpt-in-ubuntu/
[09:06] <bloodriver> They come in black, white, blue, green, and orange.  Sizes are small, regular, large, and huge
[09:07] <funhouse> Nahiyan: thank you.
[09:07] <funhouse> cfhowlett: thank you.
[09:09] <Nahiyan> funhouse, then do $ dpkg -GR -i ~
[09:10] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: apparently the default is set to <Super> from the newer Gnome 3 packages in Ricoz Testing PPA, used dconf-editor to switch it back
[09:10] <funhouse> Nahiyan: oh wait, the file is 404
[09:10] <Nahiyan> funhouse, sorry, bad URL
[09:11] <Nahiyan> funhouse, download the 2 packages with wget
[09:11] <Nahiyan> funhouse, copy the URLs exactly
[09:13] <Tex_Nick> wiggmpk:  CompizConfig Settings Manager ... Window Managemment ... move window ???
[09:15] <gnomefreak> what does "dpkg -GR -i ~" do
[09:15] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: I havent used ccsm in a long time. in dconf-editor is org > gnome > desktop > wm > preferences ---->  mouse-button-modifier
[09:17] <jnhghy> Hi, I need to have a cronjob that will modify another conjob file. for example: I will have a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/ that will run a script. this script needs to modify a file in /etc/cron.monthly/ my question is: what script can I use? will python have access to write in /etc/cron/ by default? or do I need to change the user running python?
[09:18] <makara> wiggmpk, while we're on the subject, when I'm in VirtualBox pressing alt often opens unity launcher. How can I turn this off and still keep the alt+mouse drag functionality?
[09:19] <cherice_> irc.geeknode.net
[09:19] <gnomefreak> i alwas hated cron but its because i never did anything to cron
[09:19] <ikonia> cherice_: ?
[09:19] <geopack> Hi everyone, I have issues with my graphics driver, the card is an ATI  RV370
[09:19] <geopack> nothing is displayed in glxgears
[09:20] <wiggmpk> makara: your trying to use alt+mouse drag on the guest OS?
[09:20] <OerHeks> gnomefreak, see man dpkg > dpkg -GR -i = -G Don't install a package if a newer version of the same package is already installed -- R = recusivly -- -i = install
[09:20] <makara> wiggmpk, no, in the host. I just don't want to turn off the setting for it
[09:21] <wiggmpk> makara: and does ALT typically open the unity launcher when your not in VBox? I used Unity for 20mins when it first came out, I just think its garbage
[09:22] <geopack> anyone ? I'd like to run google earth but it stops on the splash screen, I think it's related to my graphics driver since glxgears opens an empty black window... Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
[09:22] <makara> wiggmpk, yes. Is there any way to turn it off entirely?
[09:22] <makara> wiggmpk, I use docky instead
[09:22] <wiggmpk> makara: so every time you press ALT it opens the Unity menu?
[09:23] <makara> wiggmpk, right
[09:23] <flintser> maybe you can remap the alt key to not open unity and use different key or key combination instead
[09:24] <wiggmpk> makara: check under keyboard shortcuts in system preferences
[09:24] <flintser> i mean the unity "menu" or is it called dash or what...
[09:24] <sunsetlover> guys, thank you for your replay, but i need the way to change the cursor color because i'm new in ubuntu and i don't know how to use it
[09:25] <moonraker> hi
[09:25] <makara> got it
[09:25] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:26] <wiggmpk> makara: find it?
[09:26] <moonraker> can anyone suggest a gui for iscsi client??
[09:27] <makara> wiggmpk, ccsm > unity plugin > key to show the HUD
[09:27] <makara> never saw it before
[09:27] <wiggmpk> makara: HUD! thats what they called it.. Heads up Display or something catchy like that
[09:27] <gnomefreak> i set some item is ccsm but they dont work at all
[09:28] <makara> like what?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> like cube and wobbley windows
[09:28] <makara> serves you right then :)
[09:28] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:28] <wiggmpk> lol
[09:28] <gnomefreak> i really want the cube but i never had it work
[09:28] <wiggmpk> gnomefreak: do you have more than one desktop(s) enabled?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> wiggmpk: no
[09:29] <wiggmpk> gnomefreak: or "workspaces" rather
[09:29] <gnomefreak> just one
[09:29] <moonraker> any thoughts on iscsi gui.......??
[09:29] <gnomefreak> moonraker: sorry never heard of it
[09:29] <Tex_Nick> wiggmpk:  out of curosity ... i just scrolled up, following thread on moving window ... were you saying that super+primary was your setting ?
[09:29] <wiggmpk> then you have a cube... just 1 side though lol, you need at least 4 workspaces (horizontal) for the cube to work
[09:30] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: Super + Right Mouse click to move windows yes.. as opposed to Alt
[09:30] <gnomefreak> wiggmpk: sorry i do have 4 but im only using 1
[09:30] <mhs> Hello everybody
[09:30] <moonraker> gnomefreak: thanks for that
[09:30] <wiggmpk> gnomefreak: did you map a key to "activate" the cube?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> mhs: hi
[09:30] <KeyboardNotFound> mhs: hello ;)
[09:31] <KeyboardNotFound> !topic | Ken_S
[09:31] <KeyboardNotFound> Ken_S: sorry error
[09:31] <mhs> gnomefreak, where are you from?
[09:31] <KeyboardNotFound> !topic | KeyboardNotFound
[09:31] <mhs> KeyboardNotFound, Where are you from?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> mhs: north carolina in the usa
[09:31] <moonraker> gnomefreak: found ref to kiscsiadm which works on kde  but no mention of it working on ubuntu 12.10 unity...
[09:31] <gnomefreak> i cant spell today
[09:32] <Tex_Nick> wiggmpk:  ahhh ok ... i just wanted to make a note ... what distro/de are you using ?
[09:33] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: Ubuntu 12.04 amd64 Gnome Shell 3.5.4
[09:33] <Tex_Nick> wiggmpk:  ok thanks man :)
[09:34] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: np
[09:35] <marcreichelt> Hi!
[09:35]  * gnomefreak doessnt see theneed to run gnome shell <i have used it alot> but Gnome3 is almost the same 
[09:35] <marcreichelt> I installed Tomcat7 on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine, and it appears correctly with all runlevels 2-5 in sysv-rc-conf. But it doesn't get started when the server is started. What could be the problem here?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> hi marcreichelt
[09:38] <marcreichelt> and it starts correctly if I run 'sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat7 start' manually
[09:39] <BeLeKy> !ping me
[09:39] <BeLeKy> fuck
[09:39] <dr_willis> pong
[09:39] <flintser> marcreichelt: as a workaround couldnt you use login script? or startup
[09:39]  * BeLeKy slaps dr_willis around a bit with a large trout
[09:39] <BeLeKy> help
[09:39] <BeLeKy> i need bnc
[09:40] <dr_willis> so install it?
[09:40] <BeLeKy> ew
[09:40] <dr_willis> I use znc here.
[09:40] <Tm_T> BeLeKy: first, please see the channel topic, and try behave well while being in ubuntu channels
[09:40] <cfhowlett> BeLeKy, please adhere to the acceptable language standards ... this is a family friendly channel.
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Thank you.
[09:40] <BeLeKy> need
[09:41] <marcreichelt> flintser, there should be no workaround - it's a server, it should be server-like
[09:41] <BeLeKy> ?
[09:41] <KeyboardNotFound> https://lwn.net/Articles/536527/ <- Ubuntu bug ( firefox )
[09:41] <seanw95> I get this error when trying to install graphics drivers "NVIDIA driver install - Error: Unable to find the kernel source "
[09:41] <seanw95> can someone help
[09:41] <marcreichelt> flintser, and it's already in the runlevels - but I can't find it in the boot.log, so I suspect it to be a different error
[09:41] <dr_willis> !info bnc
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !ask|seanw95,
[09:42] <kepler> seanw95, do sudo apt-get install linux-source
[09:42] <seanw95> I have no network on my linux machine
[09:42] <histo> marcreichelt: sudo update-rc.d tomcat defaults
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> seanw95  wifi or cable?
[09:42] <seanw95> I've had a very problemeatic experience with networking..
[09:42] <kepler> seanw95, get access
[09:42] <seanw95> and ethernet straight to my router
[09:42] <seanw95> nto so simple kepler
[09:43] <seanw95> when I treid to debut with a few users over the past few days
[09:43] <marcreichelt> histo: it writes ' System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/tomcat7 already exist.'
[09:43] <kepler> what's goin gon with it?
[09:43] <histo> seanw95: which nvidia drivers are you trying to install and where did you obtain them.
[09:43] <seanw95> my gnome just crashes with white lines all over my screen
[09:43] <histo> marcreichelt: then it should be starting on boot.
[09:43] <marcreichelt> histo, it's not
[09:43] <battlehands> Hi guys, It's just my luck that I'm having trouble before I even start doing what I want to do.  I'm on Step IV of this documentation, and I'm having problems with it's last step.  http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/bundler-v0.4-manual.html  Finally, copy the approximate nearest neighbors (ANN) shared library at BASE_PATH/lib/libANN_char.so to a location in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or add BASE_PATH/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  
[09:43] <seanw95> When i type certain things in terminal
[09:43] <histo> marcreichelt: sudo status tomcat7
[09:43] <seanw95> and tjhe nvidia site
[09:43] <battlehands> but I don't know how to add it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:43] <battlehands> please advise
[09:43] <histo> marcreichelt: are you able to start it with the init script?
[09:43] <marcreichelt> histo, it's no upstart job
[09:43] <seanw95> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.40-driver
[09:43] <marcreichelt> classic init
[09:43] <kepler> seanw95, why don't you have internet?
[09:43] <marcreichelt> histo, yes
[09:44] <histo> seanw95: what type of nvidia card do you have?
[09:44] <BeLeKy> wewewewew
[09:44] <histo> marcreichelt: and it's not throwing an error or exiting after you start it that way?
[09:44] <seanw95> I have no idea, I've been told I need drivers for my chipset and it's abit of a fuss with an Nforce chip
[09:44] <seanw95> Geforce 7025 / Nforce 630a
[09:44] <marcreichelt> histo, no - and it works in the browser after it has been started
[09:45] <marcreichelt> I believe the init script doesn't get called at boot
[09:45] <histo> marcreichelt: rc-status --all
[09:45] <seanw95> I've been following a guide on your forums but i've hit a dead end with the kerbel thing
[09:45] <seanw95> kernal*
[09:45] <kepler> do you have the sources on whatever medium you installed from?
[09:45] <marcreichelt> histo, command not found
[09:45] <histo> marcreichelt: nvm rc-status is not there by default.
[09:45] <histo> marcreichelt: well first of all you should be using upstart not init
[09:45] <flintser> seanw95: histo: is the package available on the installation media?
[09:46] <marcreichelt> histo, it's the default tomcat7 package
[09:46] <marcreichelt> so that which comes with Ubuntu
[09:46] <seanw95> How can I check? I have a USB with bootable ubuntu 12.10
[09:46] <histo> unless tomcat hasn't been converted yet.
[09:46] <marcreichelt> histo, right :)
[09:47] <histo> marcreichelt: Isn't it set to start by default after installing the default package?
[09:47] <kepler> go to the ubuntu software center and check which sources it is using
[09:47] <marcreichelt> histo, as I wrote earlier, it is configured to start in runlevels 2 to 5
[09:47] <marcreichelt> so yes, it is
[09:48] <marcreichelt> but it doesn't start automatically
[09:48] <kepler> seanw95, ubuntu software center > edit > software sources > see if the usb thing is checked
[09:48] <histo> marcreichelt: can  you pastebin the init script for tomcat
[09:48] <root> hello
[09:48] <histo> !root | root
[09:48] <histo> Guest20637: Why areyou using irc as root big no no
[09:49] <kepler> sudo -i
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Guest20637, bad idea.  bad.
[09:49] <seanw95> kepler: Where is edit in the softeastr vrnyrt?
[09:49] <Guest20637> hello
[09:49] <kepler> seanw95, at the top
[09:49] <kepler> just a menu option
[09:49] <Guest20637> need help
[09:50] <histo> marcreichelt: cat /etc/init.d/tomcat7 | pastebinit
[09:50] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest20637,
[09:50] <marcreichelt> histo, http://pastebin.com/qeN3JyKU
[09:50] <seanw95> kepler: software centre? or sources. I can't find it in centre
[09:51] <flintser> Guest20637: /quit and dont use sudo or su when starting your client
[09:51] <fruitFly> is btrfs the future? might it be worth learning?
[09:51] <kepler> in software center, there should be an option to look at settings or preferences, then choose sources
[09:51] <seanw95> Oh, I see it
[09:51] <seanw95> in other software?
[09:51] <fruitFly> is btrfs the future? might it be worth learning??
[09:51] <cfhowlett> fruitFly, do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[09:52] <histo> marcreichelt: is there links in /etc/rc1.d/  for tomcat?
[09:52] <histo> marcreichelt: ls -l /etc/rc1.d/
[09:52] <kepler> yes, under other software
[09:52] <flintser> seanw95: open software center and it should be on the top bar under "edit" or "preferences" or something similiar
[09:52] <marcreichelt> histo, yes: 'K08tomcat7 -> ../init.d/tomcat7'
[09:52] <kepler> check that, then apt-get update, and apt-get install linux-source  --- not sure if it will be present on the install medium though
[09:52] <histo> marcreichelt: what about S08???
[09:53] <kepler> aside from that, is being offline a choice, or you can't get it online?
[09:53] <histo> marcreichelt: should be in /etc/rc2.d/
[09:53] <seanw95> I have no top bar along the top of any window
[09:54] <histo> seanw95: are they maximized windows?
[09:54] <marcreichelt> histo, S92tomcat7 -> ../init.d/tomcat7
[09:54] <seanw95> Nopr
[09:54] <histo> seanw95: What type of nvidia card do you have?
[09:54] <kepler> you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list  -- remove the # from the line for your usb stick
[09:54] <histo> seanw95: lspci | grep VGA will show you
[09:54] <seanw95> Geforce 7025 / Nforce 630a is the model but i'll do that for you
[09:55] <histo> seanw95: Ewww do you have one of those dual adapter pcs with intel and nvidia
[09:55] <marcreichelt> in rc2.d
[09:56] <flintser> seanw95: it the menu appears on the top "task bar" if using unity
[09:56] <flintser> only if you hover mouse over it though...
[09:56] <seanw95> Aaah that is where it confused me flintster
[09:56] <auronandace> fruitFly: what do you mean worth learning? what is there to learn, its a filesystem, you use it
[09:56] <seanw95> and histro I'm not quite sure
[09:57] <ASHER1> Hello i need please guide about install Cpanle in ubuntu version 10.04 where i can find this please?
[09:57] <OerHeks> seanw95, gforce 7025 needs the old 173 driver
[09:57] <fruitFly> auronandace: I'm new to linux, is btrfs the future and should I start using it now?
[09:57] <seanw95> It's onboard
[09:57] <histo> marcreichelt: sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat7 restart
[09:57] <marcreichelt> histo, maybe the software to start non-upstart jobs is missing?
[09:58] <histo> marcreichelt: Do you get an error using that command?
[09:58] <dr_willis> fruitFly: if you are new... stck to the defaults
[09:58] <auronandace> fruitFly: don't use it on production systems, it isn't ready yet
[09:58] <erikja> ubuntu 12.04.1 want thunderbird shortcut on desktop. right click under appliactions->internet->thunderbird give not the wanted option ?
[09:58] <ASHER1> someone ?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> fruitFly  no, not if you're new, stick to the defaults to get used to linux
[09:58] <cfhowlett> fruitFly, this is looking suspiciously like trolling and is offtopic.  you know better.
[09:58] <histo> fruitFly: stick with ext4
[09:58] <seanw95> This is the correct driver I just checked the supported products
[09:58] <NetFlam> Hi all!
[09:58] <marcreichelt> histo, no, it all works
[09:58] <seanw95> 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a
[09:58] <histo> seanw95: Do you see an intel chipset in lspci also?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> NetFlam, greetings
[09:58] <marcreichelt> status, restart, stop, start...
[09:58] <histo> marcreichelt: what version of ubuntu areyou using?
[09:59] <marcreichelt> 12.04 64bit
[09:59] <histo> marcreichelt: dpkg -l | grep upstart    will show you if upstart is installed should be ii
[09:59] <ASHER1> someone is have guide install Cpanel in ubuntu 10.04?
[09:59] <dr_willis> !cpanel
[09:59] <marcreichelt> histo, upstart is installed
[09:59] <ASHER1> yes
[09:59] <Tex_Nick> fruitFly:  please don't take polls in the channel ... everyone has their different opinion on any given subject ... please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:59] <cfhowlett> ASHER1, 10.04 desktop is end of life in a few months ...
[10:00] <seanw95> Everything is NVIDIA expect for my soundcard
[10:00] <Lynxx> how do i install zlib on ubuntu 12.10... im trying to install bahamut ircd.. and it wont let me because i need that file?
[10:00] <roger_> !cpanel
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> ASHER1  don't struggle with 10.04, it will soon be !eol
[10:00] <marcreichelt> histo, which log should tell me which services have been started on boot?
[10:00] <erikja> !shortcut
[10:00] <dr_willis> !find zlib
[10:00] <histo> marcreichelt: That's really bizare.  You may want to check in #ubuntu-server according to what you are telling me it should be starting. Unless it's erroring out. You'd have to check in /var/log
[10:00] <kepler> seanw95: are you offline by choice, or having issues getting online?
[10:01] <seanw95> Unfortunately no
[10:01] <marcreichelt> histo, okay, thanks a lot!
[10:01] <seanw95> I've struggled to troubleshoot it and been here at random periods over the past few days
[10:01] <ASHER1> !cpanel
[10:01] <OerHeks> !info cpanel
[10:01] <ASHER1> :\ no install cpanel in ubuntu|?
[10:01] <ASHER1> !info cpanel
[10:02] <roger_> !info cpanel
[10:02] <dr_willis> !find cpanel
[10:02] <flcl> hello sj!
[10:02] <ASHER1> !find cpanel
[10:02] <dr_willis> not in the default repos it seema..
[10:02] <seanw95> flintster: no my install media is not in there
[10:02] <Alocer> how can i add a value to LS_COLORS ?
[10:02] <auronandace> !msgthebot | ASHER1
[10:02] <kepler> seanw95: im still not clear. are you offline by choice, or having trouble getting online?
[10:03] <seanw95> Having issues
[10:03] <kepler> lets figure that out then
[10:03] <kepler> do lspci | grep Ethernet
[10:03] <dr_willis> Alocer: modify it in your. bashrc or  .profile
[10:03] <seanw95> Nothing comes back
[10:03] <Tex_Nick> ASHER & roger : please don't tease the bot ... ubottu won't answer the same key for a bit once it has been triggered :-)
[10:03] <fruitFly> how to access ntfs on my ext 4?
[10:04] <Ankur_Agarwal> hi i am trying to build debian package
[10:04] <seanw95> Nope I lie
[10:04] <histo> marcreichelt: I just thought of something. 08 sounds kind of low. So perhaps it's trying to start before another daemon that it needs. Like does it require apache to be running? And what is apache set at in rc?
[10:04] <seanw95> NVIDIA corporation MCP61 ETHERNET rev a2
[10:04] <root_lance> hello
[10:04] <Alocer> dr_willis, should i use " set $LS_COLORS = $LS_COLORS + var1 " ?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> root_lance, greetings
[10:04] <auronandace> !fstab | fruitFly
[10:04] <kepler> ok, so it sees it. hat is good
[10:04] <kepler> do ifconfig
[10:04] <kepler> do you have eth0 ?
[10:04] <root_lance> Anyone help me install skype
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Ankur_Agarwal, maybe try #debian ???
[10:05] <dr_willis> Alocer: bash basics..   you export variables like that
[10:05] <auronandace> !skype | root_lance
[10:05] <Ankur_Agarwal> i am using git-buildpackage. I am getting errors. i have added log at http://pastebin.com/S0KNzJez. please help
[10:05] <cfhowlett> root_lance, sudo apt-get install skype or use the software center ..
[10:05] <Alocer> ty dr_willis
[10:05] <seanw95> how do I check kepler
[10:05] <kepler> do "ifconfig"
[10:05] <Ankur_Agarwal> at #debian somebody told me to try at ubuntu
[10:05] <Lynxx> geez idk which zlib packae to download
[10:05] <Lynxx> :\
[10:05] <kepler> eth0 should be listed there. probably eth0 and l0
[10:05] <kepler> lo*
[10:06] <seanw95> yes listed
[10:06] <kepler> does it have an inet addr?
[10:06] <histo> marcreichelt: in the man page for update-rc.d they expalin the intervals for starting and stoping if you search for NN
[10:07] <dr_willis> Lynxx: use the package manager to install them.
[10:07] <seanw95> only inet6
[10:07] <Lynxx> yeah i was looking through it.. but really which ones do i need.. theres a couple... idk if i should download them all or not
[10:07] <seanw95> I need to manually configure my settings
[10:07] <kepler> why?
[10:07] <Lynxx> i checked the configure script of the program im trying to install and it doesnt specify
[10:08] <SAngeli> Hi, I see a lot of unusual HD activities on my ubuntu server. Is there a way to find out who is using it? what command can I run from console to see?
[10:08] <marcreichelt> histo, it's ./rc1.d/K08tomcat7, but ./rc2.d/S92tomcat7
[10:08] <seanw95> DHCP issuies
[10:08] <flcl> privmsg sj123 : aaa
[10:08] <SAngeli> Also, is this the correct channel for ubuntu server?
[10:08] <marcreichelt> K is okay with 08
[10:08] <dr_willis> Lynxx: you could have allready installed them in the time you have been asking....
[10:08] <kepler> turn dhcp back on and we'll go from there
[10:08] <cfhowlett> SAngeli, who
[10:08] <flcl> how to write private message to someone?
[10:08] <seanw95> my desktop has a reserved address
[10:08] <cfhowlett> flcl, ask permission first
[10:08] <seanw95> my DHCP doesn't work
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> flcl  first ask if you can, then type /msg [nickname]
[10:08] <seanw95> on my router..never has even when turned on
[10:09] <kepler> ok
[10:09] <kepler> what is your router address?
[10:09] <seanw95> 192.168.0.1
[10:09] <auronandace> seanw95: dhcp has never worked on your router?
[10:09] <kepler> manually set your address to 192.168.0.25, subnet mask 255.255.255.0
[10:09] <kepler> gateway 192.168.0.1
[10:09] <marcreichelt> histo, I have a rc2.d/S20jenkins - and that just starts fine
[10:10] <histo> marcreichelt: what is jenkins?
[10:10] <Phazorx> morning
[10:10] <kepler> dns can use google public dns for the time being, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[10:10] <seanw95> should I use the GUI or command line to congifure?
[10:10] <marcreichelt> (and is also no upstart job)
[10:10] <kepler> gui should be fine
[10:10] <root_lance> thanks it's working
[10:10] <marcreichelt> histo, http://jenkins-ci.org/
[10:10] <kepler> once you get that in there, try and ping 192.168.0.1
[10:10] <marcreichelt> not important ;)
[10:10] <seanw95> auronandace: Yeah, it messed up my xbox so I turned it off and started to manually configure, easier for me to be honest
[10:11] <kepler> seanw95: that is weird. ive always used dhcp, with multiple xbox's, and ps3, and other junk
[10:11] <hpuser4466> How do I enable hardware buttons on IBM Thinkpad R40e  (Volume Up/Down, Fn+Brightness).
[10:11] <Alocer> dr_willis, sry to bother if i override ~/.dir_colors  will the default values still used or they will be override ?
[10:11] <Lynxx> ty dr_willis
[10:12] <Lynxx> you're always a lot of help :)
[10:12] <kepler> seanw95: either way, lets get you online, and worry about dhcp later if you want to go that route again
[10:12] <BeLeKy> ew
[10:12] <BeLeKy> aw
[10:12] <seanw95> Okay. inputting now
[10:12] <dr_willis> Alocer: ive not messed with it in years. do no idea
[10:12] <Alocer> ty dr_willis
[10:12] <histo> marcreichelt: what's your current runlevel?
[10:12] <histo> marcreichelt: runlevel    will tell you
[10:12] <seanw95> ps, are you sure about the netmask
[10:12] <seanw95> should it be 255.255.255.0 ?
[10:13] <kepler> yeah
[10:13] <kepler> 99% of the time, at least
[10:13] <histo> seanw95: yes
[10:14] <stupidBYdefault> hello all.. need some little help... I.. excidently restart the comp, while updates installs.. and.. now allways download freeze
[10:14] <histo> Alocer: try moving it first
[10:14] <Alocer> histo, always have a backup yes tnx for reminding ;)
[10:14] <stupidBYdefault> and... I need someone on prvt if interested of talk about linux
[10:14] <seanw95> I can't click save?
[10:14] <kepler> what other fields are there to fill out?
[10:15] <seanw95> Oh I had extra blank spaced underneath nevermind
[10:15] <seanw95> wired says connection established
[10:15] <histo> stupidBYdefault: you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:15] <seanw95> what do you want me to ping
[10:15] <angs> I am executing a command as root but I get permission denied error. what can I do about? "root@ubuntu:/etc/openvpn/2.0# ./vars            bash: ./vars: Permission denied"
[10:15] <kepler> router ip
[10:15] <kepler> 192.168.0.1
[10:15] <Sberla> hello
[10:15] <histo> seanw95: ping router ip then 8.8.8.8
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Sberla, greetings
[10:16] <histo> angs: is vars executible?
[10:16] <marcreichelt> histo, runlevel is 2
[10:16] <seanw95> unreachable
[10:16] <marcreichelt> as I say, it's all okay
[10:16] <dr_willis> angs: be sure its executable
[10:16] <kepler> do ifconfig again, see if eth0 got the address
[10:16] <marcreichelt> just tomcat7 is stupid...
[10:16] <angs> histo, dr_willis: thank you, it was not executable
[10:16] <Sberla> hi I want to know because they are producing ubuntu for Mobile
[10:16] <ASHER1> hmm someone know where i can find install this for ubuntu
[10:16] <ASHER1> http://www.buildajoomlawebsite.com/the-basics/joomla-25/6-database-installation-control-panel
[10:16] <histo> marcreichelt: That's bizare  it must be trying to start before something else it needs.  Did you install apache via the repos aswell or on your own?
[10:16] <Sberla> is only for architecture arm?
[10:17] <seanw95> yeah it's all there
[10:17] <seanw95> I can't see a gateway in there but
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !phone|Sberla,
[10:17] <marcreichelt> histo, no apache
[10:17] <marcreichelt> just tomcat itself
[10:18] <kepler> seanw95: since you are manually assigning addresses, what are your current settings?
[10:18] <seanw95> do you know the hwaddr
[10:18] <kepler> like, on the machine that you are on now
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> marcreichelt  ubuntu server?
[10:18] <ASHER1> ?
[10:18] <seanw95> is that the mac address
[10:18] <kepler> hwaddr is your MAC address
[10:18] <histo> ASHER1: not sure which panel they are using but mostlikely you cpanel or you can just use phpmyadmin really easy for db's
[10:18] <marcreichelt> MonkeyDust, sort of
[10:18] <seanw95> Right they don't match up on my router settings
[10:18] <seanw95> two seconds
[10:18] <Alocer> ty dr_willis ,
[10:18] <marcreichelt> netinstall with server software
[10:18] <ASHER1> i have phpmyadmin
[10:18] <kepler> you're restricting by MAC?
[10:18] <ASHER1> but i need this for install web
[10:18] <marcreichelt> but as of now everything runs fine, and everything is set up
[10:18] <Alocer> if want to mess with ls command colors try man dir_colors
[10:18] <histo> ASHER1: then you can create your joomla database in there.
[10:19] <seanw95> It's how it identifies each device
[10:19] <histo> marcreichelt: gotcha
[10:19] <marcreichelt> without tomcat7
[10:19] <ASHER1> i know but i need this control panel for guide
[10:19] <sunsetlover> send the file again guys
[10:19] <kepler> im not sure what you mean. you're allowing access to only certain MACs, or trying DHCP reservation for certain MACs?
[10:20] <demarco> hey all, im trying to install a wireless driver on my laptop and having issues. is anyone familiar with ndiswrapper?
[10:20] <histo> marcreichelt: yeah maybe you should file a bug that's just wierd behavior.
[10:20] <seanw95> reservation for certain macs
[10:20] <histo> seanw95: then you need to use dhcp to do reservation for certain macs
[10:21] <kepler> is there a particular reason you're doing that?
[10:21] <marcreichelt> histo, but at least there *has* to be something! At least in the logs!
[10:21] <seanw95> DHCP is turned on but I never use it to assign addresses
[10:21] <marcreichelt> I don't believe it's a bug...
[10:21] <kepler> so you have DHCP on, but all your devices are statically configured?
[10:22] <seanw95> Should the mac address on ubuntu match up with the address in my router
[10:22] <seanw95> yes correct
[10:22] <sunsetlover> guys, who send me the cursor theme, please send it again
[10:22] <kepler> i dont know how you have it set up. but i assume once you match them, it should work
[10:23] <stupidBYdefault> any1copy?
[10:23] <kepler> it sounds like you have some kind of restriction on which MACs work. otherwise, statically assigning in the dhcp range should still work, regardless of MAC
[10:23] <hpuser4466> What is a USB sound card that is KNOWN/PROVEN to work in ubuntu or Lubuntu 12.04 ???
[10:24] <hpuser4466> looking at the alsa wiki doesn't reveal much inforomation about usb audio devices.  I see plenty on ebay for sale, but i want to get one compatible with ubuntu.
[10:24] <histo> seanw95: If you want to do address reservation. YOu take your mac address from your network card and place that in your routers config. Along with the ip you want ot assign to that mac. Then you set that computer to DHCP. It will pull the reservered address from the router. The other option is to manually specify an IP outside of your routers DHCP range just to avoid conflicts. for instance if it hands out
[10:24] <histo> x.x.x.100-150 set a machine at x.x.x.151
[10:25] <histo> !hcl | hpuser4466
[10:25] <kepler> it is just easier to use dhcp though, unless you *need* something to stay the same IP for some reason
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> hpuser4466:  see if this helps ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[10:25] <kepler> either way, how are we looking after adding your MAC?
[10:25] <seanw95> I've done that histro
[10:26] <seanw95> automatic DHCP or automatic DHCP addresses only
[10:26] <seanw95> Done that, and will I need to restart?
[10:26] <kepler> shouldn't have to
[10:26] <kepler> ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[10:27] <hpuser4466> Yes i looked at the wiki hardware support but it's lacking info on USB/External audio devices.  What about all those cheap usb devices on ebay?  I see no info about their chipsets.
[10:27] <seanw95> unreachable
[10:27] <kepler> what are the network settings for the machine that you are currently on?
[10:27] <kepler> use everything the same, but change the last octet in the IP
[10:27] <hpuser4466> How am I supposed to change the audio device on my laptop?
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> hpuser4466:  also www.newegg.com is far better than ebay for purchasinh hardware
[10:28] <seanw95> on ubuntu?
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> purchasing ^
[10:28] <seanw95> so change..25 to...20. On the router as well?
[10:28] <histo> seanw95: sudo dhclient -r    will release your current ip and sudo dhclient   will get a new one now that you have your routers settings setup for address reservation. Or you can reboot.
[10:29] <histo> hpuser4466: in lubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:29] <kepler> statically assigning should always work, unless filtering the MAC
[10:29] <kepler> what is the IP of the computer you are using now?
[10:29] <seanw95> histro: my termainl isnt responding after that
[10:29] <histo> hpuser4466: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14077/how-can-i-change-the-default-audio-device-from-command-line
[10:29] <seanw95> Local or WAN
[10:30] <kepler> local
[10:30] <seanw95> I'm on my laptop at the moment
[10:30] <histo> seanw95: after what?
[10:30] <kepler> the wan should only be on your router
[10:30] <seanw95> histro - dhclient
[10:31] <kepler> you have your laptop statically assigned?
[10:31] <seanw95> Yes
[10:31] <seanw95> x.x.x.09
[10:31] <kepler> windows?
[10:31] <seanw95> Win8
[10:31] <kepler> open cmd prompt and do ipconfig /all
[10:31] <kepler> it'll give you all the info you need, just make sure you change the last number in your IP
[10:31] <Tex_Nick> hpuser4466:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008658%20600011978&IsNodeId=1&name=USB ... shows some USB sound cards ... with good specifications
[10:31] <kepler> when you assign it to ubuntu
[10:32] <seanw95> This is what i've been using
[10:32] <seanw95> i'll double check though
[10:32] <root_lance> how do i pls install a program on acd?
[10:32] <Ben64> root_lance: acd?
[10:33] <dr_willis> on  acd   means what root_lance ?
[10:33] <kepler> think he means burn to a cd?
[10:33] <histo> seanw95: you can hit ctrl+c to stop it if it hasn't errored out the sudo dchclient &   to run it in the background. It should be grabbing an ip now.
[10:34] <histo> root_lance: brasero is the default cd burning application
[10:34] <root_lance> yes
[10:34] <dr_willis> yes what?
[10:35] <dr_willis> !burn
[10:35] <crocket> On ubuntu studio, ibus-hangul doesn't change the ibus tray icon when it's enabled.
[10:36] <root_lance> dvd
[10:36] <seanw95> histro - everything has gone to shit now DHCP enabled on ubuntu
[10:36] <seanw95> doesn't even say I'm connected to my wired network
[10:36] <kepler> head back to network manager and set it statically again
[10:37] <Ben64> root_lance: it would help a lot more if you'd say more than one word at a time
[10:37] <kepler> what router are you using (just curious, probably not important)
[10:38] <flintser> hpuser4466: http://dx.com/p/usb-virtual-7-1-channel-external-sound-card-adapter-59077 i can tell you that it works
[10:39] <Phazorx> using gnome shell with dual screens etup here, but experiencing an issue - part of application visual area on secondary screen does not register clicks for some reason, any clues on why and how to fix that?
[10:39] <kepler> phaedra: open up the screen settings, and where you can re-order the monitors, make sure the top and bottom edges line up
[10:39] <dr_willis> Phazorx:  same res on both monitors?
[10:40] <kepler> ^ better opening question
[10:40] <Phazorx> dr_willis: yup, idenical monitors
[10:40] <dr_willis> Phazorx:  Hmm.. Was guessing some deadzone quirk.. but guess not.
[10:40] <Physicist> My chipset is not recognized by airmon-ng.. Any suggest?
[10:40] <kepler> get a new chipset!
[10:40] <dr_willis> !info airmon-ng
[10:40] <histo> Physicist: Is it not supported possibly?
[10:41] <Phazorx> dr_willis: if it maters - it's an area of ~100 pixesl on left most edge (closest area of secondary monitor to primary physically)
[10:41] <dr_willis> Phazorx:  so about 100 pixles right btween the 2 monitors.
[10:41] <seanw95> Sorry about that my IRC Disconected
[10:41] <Phazorx> it does seem to be only screen and not app dependant
[10:41] <Physicist> I am using a notebook, with integrated wi-fi!
[10:41] <Phazorx> dr_willis: well you can say that
[10:42] <histo> Physicist: Not all cards can be put in monitor mode
[10:42] <root_lance> I just have a watch tower library on a DVD is like a dictionary but i can't install it pls help me.
[10:42] <dr_willis> Phazorx:  but an app sitting there. or across both monitors. you can still click in.. but not the desktop. and this is gnome-shell?
[10:42] <Physicist> histo, Can I chnge that?
[10:42] <kepler> seanw95: any luck?
[10:42] <seanw95> Not being detected in my routers attached devices
[10:42] <dr_willis> !wine | root_lance
[10:42] <seanw95> :|
[10:43] <kepler> it wouldn't be if it isn't dhcp
[10:43] <cfhowlett> root_lance, wine MIGHT work but no guarantees
[10:43] <kepler> but can you ping the router now?
[10:43] <histo> Physicist: not unless you are writing your own drivers
[10:43] <seanw95> no
[10:43] <histo> Physicist: Why are you trying to crack wifi anyways?
[10:43] <root_lance> okwould try
[10:43] <Physicist> My chipset is "unknown".. Maybe I need a router.
[10:43] <kepler> what are the network settings on your laptop?
[10:43] <Physicist> In my college!! :/
[10:43] <seanw95> pastebin?
[10:43] <Phazorx> using gnome shell, correct... if app is on secondary screen, maximised or not does not seem to matter
[10:44] <kepler> yeah
[10:44] <Physicist> histo, what mean writing?
[10:44] <Phazorx> if an app is windowed and does not include that area, then app works normally
[10:44] <crackme> = =和多了
[10:44] <crackme> = =喝多了。
[10:44] <FloodBot1> crackme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <dr_willis> sounds like a gnome shell bug Phazorx
[10:44] <histo> Physicist: What kind of card do you have? lspci  will show you the chipset
[10:44] <cfhowlett> crackme, english only in this channel.  sorry.
[10:45] <stupidBYdefault> ANY 1 !!! HOW CAN I FIX UPDATES.. IT INSTALLS OVER AND OVER...
[10:45] <Phazorx> dr_willis: i take it it's not something common and hasnt been discussed here?
[10:45] <histo> stupidBYdefault: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a   ?
[10:45] <seanw95> I can't copy anything in my command prompt
[10:45] <seanw95> hmm
[10:45] <daze> ctrl+shift+c / ctrl+shift+v
[10:45] <Physicist> histo, look that!
[10:45] <Physicist> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Complex 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9641 00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1714 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Port 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Port 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Process
[10:45] <seanw95> ignore thaty
[10:45] <kepler> highlight it, then hit enter to copy
[10:46] <stupidBYdefault> NO... DONT NOW how..
[10:46] <dr_willis> Phazorx:  gnome shell is constantly getting updated. the default g shell in ybuntu is ki d of old.
[10:46] <histo> Physicist: Look at he the network controller don't paste it here.
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !shout|stupidBYdefault,
[10:46] <Physicist> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series] 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) 04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5209 (rev 01)
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> stupidBYdefault  turn off caps please
[10:46] <stupidBYdefault> yes.. i apologize
[10:46] <crackme> I drank too much, I'm sorry, I'm in the wrong channel, I want into the ubunutu Chinese Channel
[10:46] <Ben64> !pastebin | Physicist
[10:46] <histo> stupidBYdefault: open a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+t and type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !patience|stupidBYdefault,
[10:46] <histo> !bcm | Physicist
[10:46] <dr_willis> bbl. gotra run home
[10:47] <seanw95> kepler ; http://pastebin.ca/2311455
[10:47] <Physicist> histo, got it! Thanks.
[10:47] <crackme> Which is your country?
[10:47] <stupidBYdefault> histo???
[10:47] <histo> Physicist: you need firmware for that card to work. Please follow the instructions from ubottu for broadcom
[10:47] <root_lance> Pls how do i download youtube videos?
[10:47] <stupidBYdefault> it ask 4 pass... stop
[10:48] <histo> stupidBYdefault: enter your admin password
[10:48] <Physicist> histo, Ok!
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> root_lance  use clive
[10:48] <cfhowlett> root_lance, get a browswer plugin for that
[10:48] <stupidBYdefault> got non
[10:48] <stupidBYdefault> just mine
[10:48] <kepler> seanw95: paste your ifconfig on ubuntu?
[10:48] <Ben64> seanw95: um, you know this is ubuntu support, not windows support
[10:48] <histo> stupidBYdefault: enter yours
[10:48] <stupidBYdefault> did..
[10:48] <seanw95> ben - yes.
[10:48] <stupidBYdefault> stopt
[10:48] <kepler> Ben64: i asked him for it, to troubleshoot a network problem
[10:48] <histo> stupidBYdefault: the user you specified during install is the admin password
[10:48] <Ben64> kepler: oh
[10:48] <histo> stupidBYdefault: finished or stopped?  Like is it back at a prompt?
[10:48] <stupidBYdefault> that suppoused to be me ?
[10:49] <stupidBYdefault> am.. just new line
[10:49] <stupidBYdefault> like i would press enter in word
[10:49] <Tex_Nick> Physicist:  http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers ... might help you ... i use a linksys wusb54G v4 dongle for aircrack ... works great ... also #backtrack-linux ... might provide more help
[10:49] <histo> stupidBYdefault: New line with prompt? please pastebin what's int he terminal
[10:49] <histo> !paste | sutpi
[10:49] <stupidBYdefault> Physicist, what is that about??
[10:49] <histo> !paste | stupidBYdefault
[10:49] <kepler> seanw95: do you have ifconfig showing the correct info for eth0 again?
[10:50] <crackme> = =靠，我晕了，你们能私密我吗？
[10:50] <seanw95> kepler : https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBiMAWh0dHBzOi8vcHVibGljLmJuMS5saXZlZmlsZXN0b3JlLmNvbS95MXBsM054T3ZTNDlfX3EweXlLeTctN01jcE4wTk9JZ1Z3dmlvWC1mU3pzVURRclZ1T3dKZmVCYktCQXNVZjhNNWtxcTcyUWJGYnVGR0ZNbFpJSWVwazY1dy8zNy5qcGc_cHNpZD0xFAQWABIA&s=pmQqpRKM0VomGzvYVCpmQx8YzIL1eMu05kaC_GvYMAE
[10:50] <root_lance> Would clive download youtube videos automatically?
[10:50] <seanw95> that's my ifconfig output
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> stupidBYdefault  people are trying to find out what you are doing, what's on your screen and what goes wrong
[10:50] <stupidBYdefault> how can i let them see freely?
[10:50] <Ben64> !cn | crackme
[10:50] <kepler> weird that you're getting rx and tx errors
[10:50] <kepler> are you using a crossover cable?
[10:51] <Physicist> Text_Nick: I do not have a router. Only the integrated in notebook!
[10:51] <histo> stupidBYdefault: you copy and paste the text to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <kepler> do you have another cable you can test with?
[10:51] <histo> stupidBYdefault: and then give us the link
[10:51] <stupidBYdefault> am... hitsto??
[10:51] <histo> kepler: he's probably wifi with no firmware
[10:51] <stupidBYdefault> can u teach me step by step?? i am... kind a blond
[10:51] <stupidBYdefault> histo?
[10:52] <seanw95> Yeah sure
[10:52] <kepler> his lspci showed an nvidia nic, they don't make wireless adapter as far as i know
[10:52] <seanw95> Workes fine in windows but i'll grab one
[10:52] <Physicist> Text_Nick: Thank you, Very useful..
[10:52] <histo> stupidBYdefault: Put mouse in upper corner of the text in terminal window and drag down towards the bottom right.  Release button text should be hilighted. Then right click and select copy.  Then open a browser and go to paste.ubuntu.com  and right click and paste the text.
[10:52] <stupidBYdefault> am.,, shit..
[10:52] <histo> stupidBYdefault: How do you not know hwo to copy and paste?
[10:53] <stupidBYdefault> long story..
[10:53] <Physicist> Thank you all friends..
[10:53] <Ben64> histo: pastebinit might be easier?
[10:53] <histo> never used a computer?
[10:53] <stupidBYdefault> dont know what to copy?
[10:53] <Tex_Nick> Physicist:  ok, well a usb wifi adapter doesn't requier a router ... but i just scrolled up ... looks like histo gave you the info you needed :)
[10:53] <histo> Ben64: yea but trying to fix apt-get at the moment so they're not going to be able to install pastebinit
[10:53] <Ben64> oh, never saw the original problem
[10:54] <stupidBYdefault> with linux.. never.. before.. just games
[10:54] <stupidBYdefault> am.. histo?
[10:54] <flintser> histo: i think stupidBYdefault is using shell and stuf to connect here so maybe it is a troll or maybe he was setup by someone. i think troll ;D
[10:54] <stupidBYdefault> can on prvt?
[10:54] <histo> !pm | stupidBYdefault
[10:55] <stupidBYdefault> yes but.. people speak over my stupidity in public.. dont like that
[10:55] <histo> stupidBYdefault: we all started somewhere.
[10:55] <cfhowlett> stupidBYdefault, *said with a smile*  deal with it.
[10:56] <histo> stupidBYdefault: People in here understand. I was just suprised that someone hasn't used a computer before. and copied and pasted before.
[10:56] <stupidBYdefault> look.. i just need someone to help me fix damn updates.. before i loose sens for linux..
[10:56] <histo> stupidBYdefault: we are trying to help you.  in a terminal sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:56] <kepler> seanw95: do you have a WAN addr going directly to your PC? what is acting as your router?
[10:57] <Ankur_Agarwal> when i tried sudo cowbuilder --create. I got error. The log of this error is at http://pastebin.com/8rM4bMrg. Please help
[10:57] <stupidBYdefault> look.. not all of peopele are from slovenia... here is nothing to copy and definitly nothing good to paste :)
[10:57] <cfhowlett> stupidBYdefault,  in the linux world YOU are the system admin.  we can help but YOU will do the heavy lifting.  Patience and a willingness to learn will help a lot
[10:57] <histo> !sl | stupidBYdefault
[10:57] <stupidBYdefault> STOP...
[10:57] <Tex_Nick> stupidBYdefault:  just a thought ... <stupidBYdefault> yes but.. people speak over my stupidity in public.. dont like that ... you might try a new nick
[10:58] <elky> stupidBYdefault, people are trying to help you while others are waiting. Please be polite and follow their instructions, or move aside.
[10:58] <Ben64> !si
[10:58] <histo> Ben64: nice how'd you find the country code so quickly?
[10:58] <stupidBYdefault> hm.. a different nick.. would not be the honest one...
[10:58]  * cfhowlett *bite cheek mode <on>
[10:58] <Ben64> histo: google
[10:59] <aleks3> who is from Russia?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[10:59] <histo> cfhowlett: lol
[10:59] <seanw95> kepler, what did you say
[10:59] <kepler> what is acting as your router?
[11:00] <stupidBYdefault> i got terminal windows open... i typed in allredy till now.. following: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[11:00] <seanw95> what do you mean kepler
[11:00] <stupidBYdefault> it ask for pass... i entered.. nothing happend.. just new row
[11:00] <histo> kepler: did you ever figure out what card he is using?
[11:00] <kepler> is it another computer, or like, a linksys router?
[11:00] <kepler> histo: it is an nvidia NIC
[11:01] <Ankur_Agarwal> has anybody used cowbuilder
[11:01] <histo> stupidBYdefault: a new black row or a row like username@computername:~$
[11:01] <histo> stupidBYdefault: with a blinking cursor?
[11:02] <histo> !anybody | Ankur_Agarwal
[11:02] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  ;-)
[11:02] <stupidBYdefault> no... just tim@zion
[11:02] <jarco> Hello, since there is no channel for xxxterm I will ask here. How do I get back in command mode (for clicking links with the keyboard) after having entered input in an input field?
[11:03] <histo> stupidBYdefault: okay now try to update
[11:03] <Ankur_Agarwal> when i tried sudo cowbuilder --create. I got error. The log of this error is at http://pastebin.com/8rM4bMrg. Please help
[11:03] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:03] <stupidBYdefault> ha ha ha
[11:03] <cristian_c> I run the suspension, but when I resume, things are not much working, for example chromium
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> jarco  you mean ctrl-alt f7 ?
[11:03] <stupidBYdefault> sorry.. comment on starting the questions...
[11:03] <cristian_c> I can't open it, and if I launch it from terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[11:04] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, greetings
[11:04] <cristian_c> I've found that 00:02.1 is the video out, but nothing else :(
[11:04] <histo> stupidBYdefault: What you aren't making any sense. What is your native language?
[11:04] <stupidBYdefault> before 32 updates.. now 34..
[11:04] <jarco> MonkeyDust, ctrl + alt + f7 doesn't do anything here
[11:04] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[11:04] <histo> stupidBYdefault: in a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> jarco  what do you mean by "get back in command mode (for clicking links with the  keyboard)"
[11:04] <Ankur_Agarwal> ubottu When i tried sudo cowbuilder --create. I got error. The log of this error is at http://pastebin.com/8rM4bMrg. Please help
[11:04] <seanw95> kepler : ?
[11:05] <stupidBYdefault> slovenian i am from slo.. but.. i teach my self on every step.. so.. dont send me back..
[11:05] <kepler> seanw95: no luck with a new cable?
[11:05] <seanw95> Nope
[11:05] <jarco> In xxxterm you can enter Commands with your keyboard. But in some cases I just can't seem to get out some input windows so I cannot enter commands. Pressing escape doesnt seem to work sometimes
[11:06] <histo> stupidBYdefault: We tried recomending a slovenian room. Wouldn't it help talking to people in your native tongue. It's difficult to understand your english.
[11:06] <stupidBYdefault> soory.. will try better..
[11:06] <sunsetlover> guys, i still have the same problem, i can not change the cursor color, i change it by mistake and i want to restore it to default color
[11:06] <kepler> so based on the network settings you're using that are working, the IP/subnet mask/gateway in your ubuntu machine *should* work. im not sure why you're getting rx errors or overruns. do you have it manually set to auto/auto?
[11:06] <histo> jarco: What does get out some input windows mean?
[11:06] <stupidBYdefault> Package operation failed
[11:06] <stupidBYdefault> The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[11:07] <histo> seanw95: use a different port on your router
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> installArchives() failed: Reading changelogs... 2%%
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> Reading changelogs... 5%%
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> Reading changelogs... 8%%
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> Reading changelogs... 11%%
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> Reading changelogs... 14%%
[11:07] <stupidBYdefault> Reading changelogs... 17%%
[11:07] <FloodBot1> stupidBYdefault: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07]  * histo senses the begining of the end
[11:07]  * MonkeyDust too
[11:07] <jarco> histo, I meant out of an input box. like where you get asked for your username. It also happens when selecting an option (radiobutton)
[11:07] <nearst> hi ppl
[11:08] <kepler> it could be a driver thing, because a few pings shouldn't cause overruns
[11:08] <jarco> hi nearst
[11:08] <histo> jarco: with xterm???
[11:08] <jarco> histo, with xxxterm
[11:08] <jarco> :)
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> stupidBYdefault  first try to get used to ubuntu basics
[11:09] <QTD> Hi all the other day I decided to play around with the new graphics diagnostics tool in 12.10 and so I checked everything and now ubuntu wont boot I just get the recovery options menu that does not work by the way. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to go about changing those settings back through a terminal?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> stupidBYdefault  and learn how to copy/paste
[11:09] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: he had no problem copy/pasting into the channel :|
[11:09] <stupidBYdefault> crap..
[11:09] <MMMM> ...
[11:10] <seanw95> kepler : still nothing
[11:10] <seanw95> unreachable
[11:10] <histo> jarco: does it allow hinting like other vim browsers by hitting f
[11:10] <QTD> oops
[11:10] <histo> jarco: then you can select a field and manipulate it.
[11:10] <jarco> QTD, This will probably be a bad way to do it but i useually just move my x configuration to another name with mv and then it will boot again
[11:10] <histo> jarco: or some use gi to start an insert int he first text box on a page. That's just my guess
[11:11] <crocket> d
[11:11] <kepler> seanw95: sudo server network-manger stop
[11:11] <jarco> histo, it does. Its just that sometimes I cant get it anymore because the input windows seems to hae forced me out of command mode somehow
[11:11] <kepler> then start
[11:11] <histo> jarco: press esc
[11:12] <nearst> whats up
[11:12] <QTD> Hi all the other day I screwed with all the settings in that new graphics diagnostics tool in ubuntu 12.10 and now ubuntu wont boot. Is there awary to put the options back in the terminal?
[11:12] <jarco> histo, thats what normally works yes. But in some cases (google maps by example) it doesn't work
[11:12] <seanw95> command not found kepler
[11:12] <jarco> QTD, This will probably be a bad way to do it but i useually just move my x configuration to another name with mv and then it will boot again
[11:12] <kepler> oops
[11:12] <kepler> sudo service network-manager stop
[11:12] <kepler> not server
[11:13] <kepler> then start
[11:13] <kepler> well, sudo service network-manager start, that is
[11:13] <seanw95> Done
[11:13] <QTD> Cool jarco thanks heeps! Any way that works is a good way
[11:13] <kepler> ifconfig eth0 show correctly?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> jarco, you can boot nomodeset and then reconfigure iirc
[11:13] <seanw95> still unreachable
[11:14] <jarco> QTD, change the name only. You might need it back :)
[11:14] <nearst> ya. always try with nomodeset on grub
[11:14] <kepler> what if you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[11:14] <nearst> seanw95, why unreachable? route -n? cat /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:14] <QTD> Sure and thanks again
[11:14] <jarco> QTD, read what the others write
[11:15] <jarco> they have better ideas then me
[11:15] <jarco> they are givving you tips
[11:15] <jarco> directed to me
[11:15] <demarco> can anyone help me with wireless driverss all the guides i find on ubuntus site are dated
[11:15] <histo> I need sleep peace out fools
[11:15] <QTD> Oops I didn't them thanks again
[11:15] <jarco> histo, thx for the help mate. I ll try to figure out WHY its not working in some cases first and then perhaps ask again
[11:16] <Ben64> !rootirc | rootlance
[11:16] <seanw95> nearst : what do you mean?
[11:16] <kepler> seanw95: run "route -n" and pastebin
[11:16] <seanw95> Two secs
[11:16] <demarco> so i am using ndiswrapper but lsmod says its not founf help
[11:16] <Tex_Nick> !details | demarco
[11:17] <rootlance> How do i search for an instaLLED SOFTWARE/
[11:17] <kepler> forgot the machine isn't online, so gotta take a picture
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> rootlance  apt-cache policy
[11:17] <lhavelund> 1~/win 13
[11:17] <Tex_Nick> rootlance:  use software center / installed software
[11:18] <seanw95> route -n   : https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBiMAWh0dHBzOi8vcHVibGljLmJuMS5saXZlZmlsZXN0b3JlLmNvbS95MXBhdUVmeVpJOHU2ZTQzaXJsQVBueGlfWHVBQ21lU0huYjY2OHdyMjBiMDdoeFNZWjVPZWdObEFFZjItbklLeDNVMjU0d0lWQUpDWThYbVFMZlpkekVDZy8zOC5qcGc_cHNpZD0xFAQWABIA&s=YChirhKKR_jD9DI67mRgIJebvANZ47knrvi6M2QdLfw
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !paste|seanw95,
[11:19] <seanw95> I can't pastebin it.
[11:20] <demarco> i have a problem with using wireless driver ndiswrapper using ubuntu 12.10, when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper i get FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. this is after doing a ndiswrapper -i
[11:20] <stupidBYdefault> jarco?
[11:20] <jarco> yes?
[11:20] <stupidBYdefault> how did u chane jarco-afk to jarco?
[11:20] <kepler> the route -n is right
[11:20] <stupidBYdefault> change
[11:20] <kepler> there is something else going on
[11:20] <jarco> with /nick jarco :)
[11:21] <seanw95> kepler: nearst: https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBiMAWh0dHBzOi8vcHVibGljLmJuMS5saXZlZmlsZXN0b3JlLmNvbS95MXBhdUVmeVpJOHU2ZTQzaXJsQVBueGlfWHVBQ21lU0huYjY2OHdyMjBiMDdoeFNZWjVPZWdObEFFZjItbklLeDNVMjU0d0lWQUpDWThYbVFMZlpkekVDZy8zOC5qcGc_cHNpZD0xFAQWABIA&s=YChirhKKR_jD9DI67mRgIJebvANZ47knrvi6M2QdLfw
[11:21] <nearst> seanw95, try sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> thanx
[11:21] <seanw95> okay
[11:21] <kepler> seanw95: try: sudo ufw disable
[11:21] <kepler> then ping again
[11:22] <seanw95> I don't understadn what you mean after the crocodiles nearst
[11:22] <seanw95> kepler - done
[11:22] <kepler> ping work?
[11:22] <seanw95> Still unreachable
[11:23] <kepler> nearst: i think dnsmasq is running anyway, so not sure adding that would help
[11:23] <seanw95> its showing on my routers connected devices now
[11:23] <tanveer_> i need help
[11:23] <KeyboardNotFound> !tail
[11:23] <Tex_Nick> demarco : you'll need to specify your adapter chipset ... be aware though ... ndiswrapper can be the devil to manage
[11:24] <nearst> kepler, maybe.
[11:24] <kepler> seanw95: ping again?
[11:24] <wiggmpk> is there a list generated by ppa-purge of the packages that get removed? or downgraded?
[11:24] <seanw95> ping my router?
[11:24] <kepler> yeah
[11:24] <kepler> can you ping your router from your windows machine?
[11:24] <jrib> wiggmpk: I assume that at some point it generates a list, y es
[11:24] <iceroot> wiggmpk: apt-get will show that list
[11:24] <seanw95> ping 192.168.0.1 -c5
[11:24] <seanw95> am I pinging correwctly?
[11:24] <kepler> yeah
[11:25] <SolarisBoy> sure
[11:25] <wiggmpk> iceroot: had to do some recovery from TTY1 and there were a lot of packages, im looking for maybe a log?
[11:26] <tanveer_> i need help
[11:26] <Thor> tanveer_: can you please provide more info, eg. what is the issue, what did you expect and ubuntu version?
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> hey folks - are there any utilities for customizing the default initramfs, EG adding packages etc.
[11:27] <seanw95_> did anyone say something
[11:27] <tanveer_> thor: latest ubuntu how do i run a ".run" rile type
[11:27] <tanveer_> file type*
[11:27] <kepler> seanw95: nope. did pinging work after your router saw the machine?
[11:27] <Thor> tanveer_: chmod +x <file> && ./<file>
[11:27] <tanveer_> i am trying to install the latest AMD GRaphics card driver on linux
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> im aware of doing things manually - copying in the binary and any dependant lib files - is there any way to do it in a more automatic method? like "debootstrapish"?
[11:27] <Ben64> !ati | tanveer_
[11:28] <Ben64> tanveer_: i don't think its recommended to do so manually
[11:28] <tanveer_> Ben64: Without this driver I have no sound
[11:28] <Ben64> video card... sound?
[11:28] <tanveer_> yes through HDMI
[11:28] <seanw95_> Nope
[11:29] <tanveer_> I had this problem 2 months almost, no one has been able to resolve it
[11:29] <Ben64> tanveer_: well look at the link the bot gave, it will show how to install the proprietary driver
[11:29] <Thor> tanveer_: as ben said, follow the guide from ubottu, doing it manually is not simple
[11:29] <kepler> not sure what can be going on. maybe a driver issue? addressing is correct.
[11:29] <kepler> give it a reboot and try one more time?
[11:29] <seanw95_> What about modprobing forcedeth?
[11:30] <kepler> if you want
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> seanw95_: whats in arp -an ?
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> oops kepler .
[11:31] <kepler> SolarisBoy: seanw95_ is having network issues
[11:31] <tanveer_> am i meant to get  2:9.010-0ubuntu5
[11:31] <tanveer_> The Raring Ringtail (active development)
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> yea just noticed that - was following my last log :shrugs:
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> is there any disconnection in arp seanw95_ ? 'arp -an'
[11:32] <kepler> im at a loss. he is using 192.168.0.0/24, 192.168.0.1 gateway, route -n is right. but getting rx errors/overruns
[11:32] <tanveer_> Ben64: fglrxinfo: command not found
[11:32] <yukiryoko> hi
[11:32] <kepler> has 192.168.0.25 statically assigned with 255.255.255.0 subnet mask
[11:32] <usr13> SolarisBoy: it's just -a
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> i want -n to avoid dns resolution
[11:32] <kepler> usr13: n makes it show IP, not hostname
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> but you can use -a only if you want..
[11:32] <usr13> kepler: Oh?
[11:33] <seanw95_> What do you mean solarisboy ?
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> seanw95_: the command "arp -an" when you type it what si the out output?
[11:34] <SolarisBoy> also ethtool/mii-tool to check the state of the interface and what it thinks it's connected to when you get a chance.
[11:34] <Ben64> tanveer_: if you're on 13.04, support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <tanveer_> im on 12.10
[11:34] <Ben64> then why are you talking about raring ringtail
[11:34] <tanveer_> i dont know which one to download
[11:35] <kepler> SolarisBoy: dont think ethtool is installed by default, and he can't get online. his install source was usb which he doesn't have anymore
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> mii-tool should be there then
[11:35] <Ben64> tanveer_: just follow the link i gave you
[11:35] <tanveer_> i am
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> same diff though its deprecated
[11:35] <Ar_> when i down load i getan error message that there is a file missing.
[11:35] <Tex_Nick> tanveer : 12.10 is quantal
[11:35] <AndIrc_5> hi, can someone please help on how to have my scanner to work with xsane.? brsane2 mfc-640cw
[11:35] <tanveer_> ok but i want to use the latest AMD drivers the one on repos is older
[11:35] <kepler> good to know
[11:35] <Bollebib> sorry to jump in like this
[11:35] <Bollebib> I have a problem
[11:35] <Bollebib> I recently installed an ununtu derivative (mint) on a drive,next to my windows partition. I think I installed grub OVER my windows boot info.
[11:35] <Bollebib> I can still see and access my windows as a loaded partition,but even though there is an entry for windows in grub,it just doesn't open.
[11:35] <Bollebib> how can I repair the boot proces for windows
[11:35] <Bollebib> hope you can help
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> i guess ultimately my point is you should also check under the ip layer to ensure there is no pyhsical or MAC disruptions occuring
[11:36] <FloodBot1> Bollebib: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <usr13> kepler: arp -n
[11:36] <Ben64> tanveer_: we can't support that, but you can try the PPA here... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[11:36] <tanveer_> ok
[11:36] <seanw95> sorry
[11:36] <seanw95> i got DC'd
[11:36] <tanveer_> ok does any one know how to change my boot loader "first option"
[11:36] <seanw95> did yous ay something solarisboy ?
[11:36] <tanveer_> i want it to high light windows
[11:36] <tanveer_> instead of ubuntu as first
[11:36] <bazhang> Bollebib, mint is not supported here
[11:37] <Bollebib> yeah but it's not really a mint problem is it?
[11:37] <bazhang> Bollebib, its not an ubuntu issue
[11:37] <SolarisBoy> seanw95_: was just asking if you have checked the output of "arp -an" or "arp -n" the difference is only the output format but you should check if everything is properly in "connected state"
[11:37] <crackme> = =
[11:37] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Bollebib
[11:37] <Bollebib> mmmhh,if you say so then
[11:37] <Bollebib> I just thought deleting a bootinfo was kind of universal
[11:38] <bazhang> !cn | crackme
[11:38] <tanveer_> Why is all my results "amazon products" how do I disable this amazon ...
[11:38] <tanveer_> why has ubuntu got amazon search integrated
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> if oyu have any ARP flaws/disruptions ip won't work right or won't work at all - also use mii-tool or ethtool (if available to you) to check the link state of your interface assuming it's not wireless or anything
[11:38] <Ar_>  when i download i get an error message that there is a file missing. how can I fix this?
[11:38] <bazhang> !adlens | tanveer_
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> seanw95: ^
[11:38] <tanveer_> ok doing it now
[11:39] <seanw95> what do you mean conected state
[11:39] <SolarisBoy> did you run the command?
[11:40] <tanveer_> i still have amazon... i just removed it
[11:40] <anmol1224> Anyone help me>
[11:40] <tanveer_> i did "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping"
[11:40] <bazhang> anmol1224, ask a question
[11:40] <anmol1224> Pleae help me its urgent.
[11:40] <seanw95> yes
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> do you see any IP/ARP mapping in a state of "disconnected"?
[11:41] <speckmade1> we've got a problem with wireless networking - seems like we've got it two times on two (probably not-so-different) machines.
[11:41] <anmol1224> I have a problem installing ubuntu 64 bit on my machine
[11:41] <bazhang> anmol1224, give us the whole issue, on a single line
[11:41] <speckmade1> on each machine system is fully encrypted
[11:42] <crackme> bazhang, hello
[11:42] <bazhang> crackme, this is not the chat channel
[11:42] <seanw95> Its not returning anythingf
[11:42] <crackme> bazhang, i'm from china
[11:42] <speckmade1> and after /boot ran out of disk space WLAN connect fails
[11:42] <anmol1224> I install the ubuntu 64 bit ISO file on a pendrive. after booting from it it automatically shut downs
[11:42] <bazhang> !ot | crackme
[11:42] <cfhowlett> anmol1224, what's the issue?
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> seanw95: ping your gateway with a count of maybe 5 and then do it again this simply means the table is empty
[11:42] <bazhang> anmol1224, installed how
[11:43] <speckmade1> we fixed the /boot space problem alright - but Wifi connection doesn't get a IPv4 address anymore.
[11:43] <crackme> bazhang, what's mine?
[11:43] <bazhang> crackme, stop chatting here.   #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, NOT here
[11:44] <crackme> bazhang, sorry,what's meaning
[11:44] <Tex_Nick> tanveer : have you logged out & the back in ?
[11:44] <speckmade1> both got Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and a Broadcom Wireless card
[11:44] <crackme> bazhang, why?
[11:44] <bazhang> crackme, its support only.  not chat.
[11:44] <cfhowlett> crackme, this channel is for ubuntu support.  please respect that.
[11:44] <test__> what would be more expensive a laptop with14" or one with 15.6" with the same specs?
[11:44] <bazhang> test__, ask in ##hardware
[11:45] <tanveer_> Tex_Nick:  not yet il restart but i want to change boot priority
[11:45] <test__> bazhang, tried..
[11:45] <speckmade1> doesn't seem to be a problem with the wireless accesspoint - it fails with several.
[11:45] <bazhang> test__, then #ubuntu-offtopic its offtopic here
[11:45] <test__> bazhang, and trying.. :P
[11:45] <crackme> bazhang, Sorry, I think I know, I use english
[11:45] <cfhowlett> test__, then take a field trip to your computer store and do some research
[11:45] <roland> Hi. Has anyone come across a small version of expect program? Something that's small enaugh to fit in embedded device?
[11:45] <speckmade1> assigning an IP address by hand works.
[11:45] <crackme> cfhowlett, Sorry, I think I know, I use english
[11:46] <bazhang> speckmade1, its impossible to read when you break up your posts like that. try all on ONE line
[11:46] <speckmade1> bazhang: hm - I stopped doing that because of always hitting max line length.. :-/
[11:46] <cfhowlett> roland, there's a version in the main repo for 12.04
[11:47] <crackme> hello,everybody
[11:48] <stupidBYdefault-> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <stupidBYdefault-> [sudo] password for tim:
[11:48] <stupidBYdefault-> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:48] <stupidBYdefault-> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[11:48] <anmolsingh> help me please
[11:48] <roland> cfhowlett: well I use standard expect on PC but, looking for something smaller for embedded system...
[11:49] <cfhowlett> roland, ok.  I'd suggest you look directly at the package maintainer's site for such info.
[11:49] <bazhang> anmolsingh, how did you copy the iso to the usb stick
[11:49] <Tex_Nick> anmolsingh:  you need to ask a question for help
[11:50] <anmolsingh> i copied it to usb stick with universal usb installer
[11:50] <bazhang> anmolsingh, and did you md5 the iso prior to doing that
[11:50] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, so NOT unetbootin?  not sure that merely copying makes it a bootable media
[11:51] <anmolsingh> How to know that whether my laptop is capable of runing ubuntu 64 or not?
[11:51] <Ben64> check the cpu model
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> anmolsingh  sudo dmidecode| grep 64
[11:52] <test__> stupidBYdefault-, do have synaptic open or do you install any other software?
[11:52] <anmolsingh> intek core i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20 ghz
[11:53] <anmolsingh> oops sorry its intel
[11:53] <Ben64> that supports 64bit
[11:53] <Bollebib> I have tried on mint-help but there is no one there.I am not trying to spam,just want a bit of help.
[11:53] <Bollebib> I have used ubuntu before,it's the EXACT same proces
[11:53] <bazhang> Bollebib, not here
[11:53] <Bollebib> so the solution should be same
[11:53] <cfhowlett> Bollebib, sorry.
[11:54] <Bollebib> well ,can't you just say how you would solve it for ubuntu?
[11:54] <anmolsingh> Is there any software which can install the ubuntu directly to a partition of the hard disk in windows?
[11:54] <lhavelund> anmolsingh: Not supported, no.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, windows installer will do that aka wubi
[11:54] <bazhang> !wubi > anmolsingh
[11:54] <lhavelund> Wubi, however, is not supported.
[11:55] <Bollebib> I can't acces windows,that is the problem
[11:55] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, further wubi is for testing only not for long-term installation.
[11:55] <Bollebib> but I can access it from the loaded drives
[11:55] <Bollebib> as I could in ubuntu
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Bollebib, ##windows
[11:55] <Ben64> Bollebib: maybe a mint problem, maybe a windows problem, either way its not an ubuntu problem
[11:56] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, consider virtualbox ?
[11:56] <Bollebib> I beg to differ,because it's due to the exact same option you can choose at installation
[11:56] <Bollebib> where you install your grub
[11:56] <stupidBYdefault> nice info from slovenian channels - sudo su -
[11:56] <stupidBYdefault> rm - rf /
[11:56] <Bollebib> it's that option that made this problem
[11:56] <Ben64> !danger
[11:56] <Bollebib> and that is exact same in ubuntu
[11:56] <Tex_Nick> Bollebib:  when you joined #mint-help ... did you first switch to the irc.spotchat.org server
[11:57] <Bollebib> yes
[11:57] <cfhowlett> stupidBYdefault, stop that mess.
[11:57] <Bollebib> no one there,and a guiy said he was weiting since yesterday for an answer
[11:57] <Bollebib> *guy
[11:57] <Ben64> then... why use mint?
[11:58] <Tex_Nick> !funny | stupidBYdefault
[11:58] <Bollebib> to try it out,see if it has nice defaults
[11:58]  * cfhowlett thinks ... most  - entertaining -  channel - EVER
[11:58] <Tex_Nick> hehe
[11:58] <anmolsingh> one more problem, i also try to boot the ubuntu from a dvd, but my bad luck it stucks on the boot screen
[11:58] <Bollebib> but I don't wanna spam
[11:58] <Bollebib> I just think it's a cross platform problem
[11:59] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, did you verify the iso?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, and how exactly did you create the dvd?
[11:59] <anmolsingh> yes, i even check every folder inside disk. Everything is ok
[12:00] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, ummm, no.  That's not what I meant.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|anmolsingh,
[12:00] <Tex_Nick> Bollebib:  which part of "not jhere" dou not understand ?
[12:00] <Tex_Nick> here*
[12:00] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, you REALLY need to do this.  It will answer so many questions ...
[12:00] <anmolsingh> What is this?
[12:00] <Bollebib> well then I have an other install,that is ubuntu
[12:01] <Bollebib> that has that exactr same problem
[12:01] <Bollebib> so how would you repair windows boot on ubuntu
[12:01] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, you need to verify the integrity of the download.
[12:01] <Ben64> Bollebib: stop playing around
[12:01] <anmolsingh> how?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|anmolsingh,    read the link
[12:02] <SepWeb> Hallo guys
[12:02] <anmolsingh> md5sum
[12:02] <Bollebib> you call it playing,I want help
[12:02] <Bollebib> you are damaging the ubuntu name from where I stand..
[12:02] <cfhowlett> SepWeb, greetings
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Bollebib, asked and answered.  Please take mint to mint and windows to windows
[12:02] <SepWeb> My Ubuntu has a display problem.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !details|SepWeb,   please
[12:03] <SepWeb> Ubuntu is not displaying some text
[12:03] <anmolsingh> Is there any software for ubuntu for managing iPhone?
[12:03] <Ben64> !iphone
[12:03] <Ben64> not sure how updated that is though
[12:03] <Bollebib> so I'll go and install ubuntu
[12:03] <Bollebib> when I come back in an houre will you finally help me?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Bollebib, yes
[12:04] <speckmade1> On two probably (nearly?) identical machines (Asus Eee PC, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, full disk encryption) with Broadcom wifi (model 4313) connecting to wifi fails because we don't get an IPv4 address anymore. On both we've had to fix a full /boot partition before the fail.
[12:04] <speckmade1> It fails with several accesspoints; assigning an IP address by hand works; with wired connections there's no problem getting an address; dhclient eth1 keeps going forever, dhclient eth0 is an instant success.
[12:06] <speckmade1> oh - and with Knoppix the problem doesn't show up
[12:06] <cfhowlett> speckmade1, same installation media for the two laptops?
[12:07] <speckmade1> unsure, very much possible.
[12:07] <speckmade1> network install, initiated from USB with mini.iso
[12:07] <rockcket> hi
[12:07] <rockcket> excuse me
[12:07] <cfhowlett> rockcket, greetings
[12:07] <kzar> Have SSH running on a server that's hooked up directly to the internet with an ip address and no local network. Guy there is able to ssh from local term to server's external ip OK. When we try and ssh from our machines we get login prompt but credentials are rejected. We have denyhosts installed and otherwise default ubuntu sshd settings. Any ideas?
[12:07] <rockcket> i used startup disk creator to create bootable usb for 12.04.1 iso
[12:08] <rockcket> now when i restart computer it doesnt do anything, just opens the grub thing and i select 11.04 and loads it
[12:08] <SepWeb> cat /etc/*release says DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[12:08] <rockcket> whats up ?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> kzar, if no answer here, ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:08] <kzar> cfhowlett: Thanks OK
[12:08] <SepWeb> sorry must change to windows CANNOT see anything
[12:08] <cfhowlett> rockcket, 11.04?  are you sure?
[12:09] <rockcket> i enabled usb boot in bios
[12:09] <rockcket> after that it just shows Boot Error once with cursor
[12:09] <rockcket> i hit enter and brings grub
[12:09] <rockcket> cfhowlett: yes
[12:09] <rockcket> i am on 11.04 and trying to upgrade to 12.04
[12:09] <Tex_Nick> Bollebib:  may i pm you ?
[12:09] <Bollebib> if you wish
[12:09] <rockcket> so what am i doing wrong
[12:09] <Ben64> rockcket: you can upgrade, you don't need to reinstall
[12:09] <cfhowlett> rockcket, you have to change the bios to boot from the USB
[12:10] <rockcket> cfhowlett: yes there was an option, <USB Boot>
[12:10] <rockcket> i enabled it
[12:10] <rockcket> after that i get Boot error on boot
[12:10] <rockcket> and it gets stuck there
[12:10] <rockcket> i hit enter and it loads grub with option for me to choose 11.04 ubuntu
[12:10] <rockcket> i choose it and it loads desktop
[12:10] <rockcket> Ben64: my upgrade manager says 11.10
[12:10] <Ben64> might want to try making the usb again, also.... don't use enter as punctuation
[12:10] <cfhowlett> rockcket, if you're booting from the USB you should not see grub at all...
[12:10] <Ben64> rockcket: 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[12:11] <rockcket> as i said, it gives a screen where it gets stukc saying Boot Error. i hit enter there because it gets stuck. then it shows grub
[12:11] <rockcket> Ben64: i think fresh installation to 12.04 will be quicker ?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> rockcket, so the USB is not booting then.  as for why you're installed OS fails ...
[12:11] <Ben64> it will be faster, yes
[12:12] <rockcket> so what should i do now cfhowlett ?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> rockcket, I'd suggest a clean 12.04 install
[12:12] <rockcket> thats what i am trying to do
[12:12] <Ben64> check the md5 of the iso, and use unetbootin to make a new usb
[12:12] <cfhowlett> rockcket, download 12.04, md5sum verification then use startup disk creator to make a boot USB ... unetbootin works too
[12:13] <rockcket> or am i doing it wrong ? i am trying to do clean 12.04 install. so i downloaded iso, used startup disk creator to burn into usb and now restarded computer
[12:13] <beaky> hello
[12:13] <cfhowlett> rockcket, you still have the iso you downloaded?  run the md5sum on that iso
[12:13] <SepWeb> http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3159/hfbtwlnq_png.htm
[12:13] <cfhowlett> beaky, greetings
[12:13] <beaky> do I ever need to defrag linux?
[12:13] <anmolsingh> md5sum are different !!! What it mens
[12:13] <cfhowlett> beaky, conventional wisdom says no
[12:14] <beaky> ah
[12:14] <kzar> beaky: Depends on filesystem but generally no
[12:14] <rockcket> Ben64: cfhowlett : this ?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, your downloaded iso md5sum doesn't say what it should?  Means the download was scrambled and do it again
[12:14] <rockcket> $ md5sum ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso  06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d  ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:14] <kzar> beaky: I never have
[12:14] <labsin> Rockcket: Did you get some lines like 'starting from USB'? Maybe note the errors you get.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> rockcket, assuming your system runs 64 bit, yes
[12:14] <SepWin> can someone help me? I posted a Link to the problem.
[12:15] <rockcket> labsin: i just get 'Boot Error' and then the cursor blinks and it gets stuck
[12:15] <SepWin> one third of the Firefox displayed site is unusable
[12:15] <rockcket> cfhowlett: ok so what next?
[12:15] <anmolsingh> md5sum for ubuntu 64 bit 12.10?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, fwiw, a common error.  please download via torrents
[12:16] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, personally, I say ALWAYS run md5sum on downloaded OS's but I'm strange that way ...
[12:16] <SepWin> also Save Button and Close Button in Programms are not readable
[12:16] <cfhowlett> rockcket, you still have the iso you downloaded then?
[12:16] <anmolsingh> my connection speed is about 24 kbps. How much time will it take to download again?
[12:16] <SepWin> i did not installed the Linux but I have to fix the problem
[12:16] <rockcket> cfhowlett: yes ofcourse
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|rockcket,    instructions and how to ...
[12:17] <beaky> why don't linux filesystems need defragging compared to windows?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, via torrents?  who knows, but it's better/safer than direct download
[12:18] <cfhowlett> beaky, linux has superior self-maintenance compared to windows
[12:18] <Ben64> anmolsingh: you can use the torrent to fix the iso you already have
[12:18] <rockcket> cfhowlett: do you want me to check my iso's hash here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ? yes it exists
[12:18] <anmolsingh> What is the speed of download via torrent?
[12:18] <rockcket> or am i getting it wrong ?
[12:18] <Ben64> anmolsingh: as fast as you can get it
[12:18] <nearst> aw. im getting sick with my windows atm. cant wait to boot my box back
[12:18] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, unknown.  start the torrent and read the feedback
[12:18] <cfhowlett> rockcket, correct
[12:18] <anmolsingh> i could not understand? Explain me.
[12:18] <rockcket> ok and now ?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, "it depends".
[12:19] <cfhowlett> rockcket, run the md5sum.  If things check out, proceed to the next step
[12:20] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, you asked for download speed.  Too many factors for any of us to predict ...
[12:20] <rockcket> it matches cfhowlett
[12:20] <rockcket> the next step there is burn to cd
[12:20] <rockcket> but i want to do from usb drive
[12:20] <cfhowlett> rockcket, then do a USB.
[12:20] <nearst> torrent speed base on peers and u bandwidth as well
[12:20] <rockcket> i did with startup disk creator
[12:20] <rockcket> i said that already :(
[12:21] <cfhowlett> rockcket, ok.  reading multiple threads ...
[12:21] <rootlance> What is the uses of  EtherApe?
[12:21] <Ben64> rockcket: get unetbootin, and do it again
[12:21] <cfhowlett> rockcket, i'd say attempt to reinstall.  NOte: usb does fail often and without much in the way of warning alerts ...
[12:22] <bazhang> !info etherape | rootlance
[12:22] <rockcket> i dont know how to use unetbootein
[12:22] <anmolsingh> if I pause and resume a ubuntu iso file again and again, which is too common in on my internet connction. Will there be any impact on the file after it get download completely.
[12:22] <rockcket> is there a tutorial on that cfhowlett ?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> rockcket, pretty much the same as startupdiskcreator ...
[12:22] <Ben64> rockcket: its very easy
[12:22] <cfhowlett> rockcket, there is ... wait
[12:22] <rockcket> oh it has gui
[12:22] <rockcket> ok
[12:22] <rockcket> i thought it is ocmmand line tool
[12:22] <rockcket> i did apt-get :)
[12:23] <savagecroc> i have root:rw- to /etc/postgresql/9.2/main,  root:--x on /etc/postgresql/9.2 and /etc/postgresql  .. why can't i sudo 'echo' > /etc/postgresql/9.2/main/postgresql.conf
[12:23] <FlowRiser> anmolsingh, you can always check the md5 sum file if you are unsure a dl completed right
[12:23] <savagecroc> i get permission denied
[12:23] <Ben64> i've had problems booting from usb drives, unetbootin has the highest success for me, so thtats why i'm recommending it
[12:23] <FlowRiser> anmolsingh, or just use the torrent way of downloading :D
[12:24] <rockcket> Ben64: trying
[12:24] <Ben64> savagecroc: | sudo tee /etc/postgresql/9.2/main/postgresql.conf
[12:24] <cfhowlett> rockcket, see the tutorial   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/
[12:24] <savagecroc> also if i sudo bash, cd /etc/postgresql/9.2/main, i can touch bla already
[12:24] <anmolsingh> i want to tell you while downloading the ubuntu 64 bit file on iphone it take days.
[12:24] <Ben64> savagecroc: btw, don't do sudo bash
[12:24] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, do NOT download the iso via iphone!
[12:25] <marcreichelt> ahhhh, histo - I got it!!
[12:25] <savagecroc> Ben64: that sudo tee command just hangs
[12:25] <marcreichelt> it was a simple weird problem
[12:25] <savagecroc> Ben64: what's the alternative?
[12:25] <rockcket> Ben64: cfhowlett : so this is writing to the USB ?
[12:25] <anmolsingh> but i am forced to do so.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, torrents have download verification and error correction.  direct download does not
[12:25] <cfhowlett> rockcket, correct
[12:26] <rockcket> ok fine
[12:26] <Ben64> savagecroc: use that after echo, like "echo 'test' | sudo tee /tmp/testfile"
[12:26] <jacou_> hi
[12:26] <Ben64> savagecroc: sudo -i if you really need a root shell
[12:26] <cfhowlett> jacou_, greetings
[12:26] <anmolsingh> best torrent client and free (without ads)
[12:26] <rootlance> Can i hack facebook with backtrack R53?
[12:26] <SolarisBoy> rtorrent
[12:26] <marcreichelt> histo, the init.d script *did* indeed get called correctly - but the script didn't recognize the 'JAVA_HOME' variable I added in /etc/environment
[12:26] <marcreichelt> I had to write it manually into /etc/default/tomcat7... :/
[12:26] <bazhang> rootlance, thats offtopic here and in this network
[12:27] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, transmission is the default torrent client in ubuntu
[12:27] <joners> anyone be able to assist with a linux noob trying to send some email from an ubuntu server to a WS2k8r2 smtp relay?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> root_lance  backtrack and hacking are unsupported here
[12:27] <anmolsingh> Currently I'm on windows.
[12:27] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, bittorrent is pretty good on win
[12:28] <rockcket> wow
[12:28] <rootlance> Need a video player
[12:28] <cfhowlett> joners, if not here, try in #ubunt-server
[12:28] <rockcket> unetbootein was MUCH faster than startup disk
[12:28] <rockcket> rebooting
[12:28] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[12:28] <rockcket> brb guys :)
[12:28] <bazhang> !players | rootlance
[12:28] <Ben64> rockcket: gl
[12:28] <savagecroc> Ben64: that worked
[12:28] <savagecroc> care to enlighten me why?
[12:28] <anmolsingh> Once i get Ubuntu on machine. I will kick Windows out of my life forever.
[12:29] <Ben64> savagecroc: because if you do "sudo echo 'stuff' > /path/to/a/file" the > lowers the permissions back to your user
[12:29] <savagecroc> Ben64: wow, ok i didn't know that
[12:29] <anmolsingh> What do you recomment to do? Dual boot ubuntu with windows or only ubuntu?
[12:29] <Ben64> yeah its not intuitive
[12:30] <Ben64> anmolsingh: whatever works best for you
[12:30] <savagecroc> Ben64: with the sudo -i.. why's that better than sudo bash? what does it do differnetly?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, up to you.
[12:30] <anmolsingh> Sorry for my bad English.
[12:30] <cfhowlett> anmolsingh, no apologies needed.
[12:30] <Ben64> savagecroc: sets the environment correctly
[12:30] <anmolsingh> What means apologies?
[12:30] <savagecroc> isin't the environment stuff set by /etc/suoders?
[12:31] <crazybrain> How to set proxy address while setting up mobile broadband?
[12:31] <savagecroc> or it doesn't execute /etc/profile if you call sudo bash?
[12:31] <crazybrain> I mean how can i insert proxy like in Mobile phones
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !proxy
[12:31] <Ben64> sudo kind of keeps your environment but elevates privileges, its kind of hard to explain
[12:32] <crazybrain> cfhowlett: no i want to implement these settings to use internet for free using my mobile phonee
[12:32] <Ben64> crazybrain: off topic for this channel
[12:32] <crazybrain> Access point name : rcomwap
[12:32] <crazybrain> proxy Address : 10.239.221.22
[12:32] <crazybrain> Port port : 8080
[12:32] <crazybrain> Homepage : m.google.com
[12:32] <FloodBot1> crazybrain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <savagecroc> Ben64: ok.. take your word for it :) and start using -i instead
[12:32] <cfhowlett> crazybrain, sorry, can't help with that
[12:32] <crazybrain> like this
[12:33] <Buck> I'm trying to install mysql-server on my fresh 12.04 install, but I just cannot make it happen. These are the errors I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1620108/ <-- how can I fix it? I tried purging, editing /status, reconfiguring, install -f, nothing helps
[12:33] <crazybrain> do you know any tool or something?
[12:33] <clfs> - -
[12:33] <rootlance> Is there any chat room for linux?
[12:33] <savagecroc> Ben64: thanks for all the cool new tips
[12:34] <cfhowlett> rootlance, ##linux
[12:34] <Ben64> savagecroc: no problem
[12:36] <Ben64> Buck: what command are you running to install it
[12:37] <cgtdk> I am thinking about replacing my huge Nvidia GTX 580 with a smaller, old (2011) ATI graphics card I just realized I had. I'm assuming that switching is not as easy as shutting down, replacing the graphics card, and rebooting and then everything magically works. How should I go about this?
[12:37] <bazhang> cgtdk, ask in ##hardware
[12:38] <cgtdk> bazhang: It's actually more of a Linux question than a hardware question. Specifically, I was thinking about drivers.
[12:38] <jacou__> So cold!
[12:38] <cgtdk> The video cards work fine, it's the software I'm worried about.
[12:39] <Ben64> you can't have both ati and nvidia drivers installed at a time, you should completely remove nvidia stuff before putting the ati in
[12:39] <root_lance> I need a video webcam to open my webcam pls?
[12:39] <cgtdk> Ben64: All right. So I should install the ATI driver and remove the Nvidia driver before I replace the graphics card?
[12:39] <bazhang> !webcam > root_lance
[12:40] <Buck> Ben64: sudo apt-get install myqsl-server
[12:41] <twisted`> Hi, what could cause the LVM devices not to appear in /dev after reboot?
[12:41] <twisted`> lvscan etc all recognises it
[12:41] <twisted`> but the devices are not in /dev
[12:42] <labsin> cgtdk: I think your system will fall back on the fallback video drivers. Then remove the nvidia, reboot and install the ati driver. I think that's the safer way
[12:42] <cgtdk> labsin: thank you for the advice
[12:45] <zilkomaa> You guys know how to get smooth desktop and youtube video play without screen tearing?
[12:45] <zilkomaa> I have a gtx 680
[12:45] <ouyes> HI all, I get windows7 and ubuntu, but the bootloader grub was installed in my usb disk, if I want to boot into ubuntu I have to insert my usb disk and change the boot option, it is very unconvient, do you know anyway I can make the dual boot work on the hdd?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> zilkomaa, on chrome?
[12:45] <cgtdk> zilkomaa: Did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[12:45] <zilkomaa> cfhowlett: yes
[12:45] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: did you only reboot or did you move disks to a new system?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> ouyes, reinstall grub to the HDD
[12:45] <zilkomaa> cfhowlett: i did the ppa install
[12:45] <cfhowlett> zilkomaa, old bug.  don't use chrome ...
[12:45] <twisted`> SolarisBoy: reboot :)
[12:46] <zilkomaa> cfhowlett: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:46] <zilkomaa> cfhowlett: ah ok..
[12:46] <iceroot> !grub | ouyes
[12:46] <iceroot> ouyes: the first link
[12:46] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: and what device is missing exactly under dev?
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> the dm-* device?
[12:47] <twisted`> SolarisBoy: well when I set it up I had the VG in /dev but now after reboot it's gone
[12:47] <ouyes> iceroot, that is the problem, I use a laptop with the ufei boot,
[12:47] <twisted`> but I now found it under /dev/mapper/vgname-lvname
[12:47] <cfhowlett> well, all, gtg.  This has been a MOST entertaining channel tonight!
[12:47] <twisted`> so it's ok I guess
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: thats where is belongs =)
[12:47] <labsin> Zilkomaa not don't use chrome. Go tho chrome://plugins inside chrome and disable /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so and install flash plugin from the ubuntu repo
[12:47] <twisted`> yeah just that LVM showed me fancy smancy /dev/vgname/lvname
[12:47] <iceroot> !uefi | ouyes
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: that should be a link to the dm-* devices
[12:48] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: that should also be there afaik but that path uses the folder (vgname) and the volume as a link to the dm-* file
[12:48] <labsin> Zilkomaa: which ppa? The one I had is now outdated
[12:49] <zilkomaa> labsin: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[12:50] <anmolsingh> What is difference between Ubuntu 12.10 and ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: still weird though if what you say actually happend the devices dissapeared and reappered - without any other change
[12:51] <twisted`> SolarisBoy: they were not in mapper before
[12:51] <twisted`> and I got in back in /dev/vgname/lvname when I did a rename
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> ahh you renamed them
[12:51] <_helios_> anmolsingh: 12.10 has some new features while 12.04 is Long Term Support
[12:51] <labsin> You'd be better of to install nvidia-experimental-310 after deleting the nvidia-current. This one is from the ubuntu repo and is even a later version. This is the one that is recomended for Steam
[12:52] <anmolsingh> What they are? Can you name a few?
[12:52] <zilkomaa> labsin: Do you mean from synaptic?
[12:52] <labsin> yes
[12:52] <CQ> anyone here get keefox to work? its driving me nuts... teh instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040113 don't seem to be complete
[12:53] <zilkomaa> labsin: Ok, damn..i forget that synaptic procc totally it installs all the needed packages too its good..
[12:53] <crazybrain> is there any room which is related to mobile phones?
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> seems you did extra things - the 2 links under mapper and the folder named as the volume group are pretty standard
[12:54] <labsin> You can also go to additional softwar in the software sources
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> those defaults can be overridden (where to place those links/files) however that would imply it was done when they were created
[12:54] <labsin> Zilkoma: whitch verion are you running?
[12:54] <crazybrain> Guys is there any room related to Samsung mobile ???
[12:55] <zilkomaa> labsin: 12.04
[12:55] <zilkomaa> labsin: 12.04 32b
[12:55] <SolarisBoy> lvscan wouldn't change anything it would just tell you what lv's were found - only something like vgchange -aly would actually create missing links and device nodes and stuff - then that would imply that maybe you moved or attached a new disk to another system - so its weird twisted`
[12:55] <PrincessLuna> Has anyone managed to install Ubuntu on the small Ultrabook cache ssd's?
[12:55] <PrincessLuna> Referring to msata cache drive 24GB
[12:56] <ouyes> iceroot, You have installed on sda6 a Linux version which is not EFI-compatible. It is probably incompatible with your computer.
[12:56] <ouyes> iceroot, boot-repair told me that
[12:56] <iceroot> ouyes: sorry luckily i dont own a UEFI device so i dont know how to handle it
[12:56] <labsin> zilkomaa: Then just open a terminal and run: `sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current` and afterward do `sudo apt-get install nvidia-experimental-310`and you'll have one of the latest drivers.
[12:56] <iceroot> !alis | crazybrain
[12:57] <ouyes> iceroot, thanks a lot
[12:59] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  i've installed it on a 32GB micro smb ... would think you could do it ... 24GB would work anyway ... as long as you don't load it up with apps
[12:59] <zilkomaa> labsin: Ok, thanks man
[12:59] <labsin> Zilkomaa: for the youtube issues, run: `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer` then go to chrome://plugins/ inside chrome and disable the /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so and enable the /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so. The one that Chrome packs is quite buggy
[13:00] <amit111> hi! Urgent problem here.. My home partition is probably corrupted or something.. I am not able to login. Also using ext2fsd in windows; home partition is not getting mounted. please help!!!!!!!
[13:00] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: But will it boot as the ultrabook cache msata SSD (PCIE card) is normally used for caching recent programs and windows boot files
[13:00] <ouyes> Hi all, I get a dual boot problem here is the information from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/1620281/, I use ufei boot, but every time I see no grub, but directly into windows?
[13:01] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: The system has a 500GB hdd also. I was thinking of installing / on ssd /home and /var on HDD and Windows 8 (caching disabled) on HDD
[13:01] <labsin> amitlll: boot from a live distro and see if you can mount it there
[13:01] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  i can't answer that ... someone else here might be able to though
[13:02] <anmolsingh> how to download ubuntu via torrent
[13:02] <hzengin> i installed lastest kubuntu and i am having trouble with my usb wireless dongle. I solved driver issues but there is still a problem. With same computer and same dongle i can connect my home network via wi-fi under windows 8 and signal strength is very good but in kubuntu signal strength is really bad
[13:02] <hzengin> is there any one has an idea?
[13:03] <labsin> PrincessLuna: I thought it was best to make your partitions first and then run the installer in such a case.
[13:04] <PrincessLuna> labsin: I know, but would Ubuntu work on the small ssd drive (that is intended for windows 8 caching only)
[13:04] <labsin> yes
[13:04] <amit111> anmolsingh: http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrents
[13:04] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  you could re-partition your 500 hdd drive, if it has enough free spacwe ... install ubuntu as a dual boot
[13:05] <anmolsingh> thanks amrit
[13:05] <labsin> PrincessLuna: my / partition is 17.8 GiB and i have only used 8.5Gib
[13:05] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick:  labsin I know I could but I was thinking of the performance benefit of the ssd so I would like to use that for /
[13:06] <amit111> anmolsingh: I would recommend this http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=01933b87a8a450c3a88df2349587400aa0f6b71e   THis is a link for Linux Mint. or Zorin Os
[13:06] <anmolsingh> but i want ubuntu
[13:07] <amit111> labsin: I am able to access it now.. But not able to login to ubuntu
[13:07] <twisted`> SolarisBoy: agreed but I was just helping someone over SSH on a Linaro box so...
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> twisted`: i see ;>
[13:07] <labsin> amitlll: Do you know wat you did before it didn't boot?
[13:08] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  i think there is a lot of hype regarding ssd vs hdd performance ... i'm using both and don't really notice the difference
[13:08] <IdleOne> anmolsingh: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[13:09] <labsin> Tex_Nick: Startup is a huge difference as it reads a lot of data
[13:09] <Tex_Nick> ssd boots much faster ... oncesystem is up though ... one hdd seems as good as ssd
[13:09] <learningLinux> similar to my smartphone, is it possible to have linux automatically connect to the    strongest wifi signal?
[13:10] <Tex_Nick> labsin:  yeah but what's 30 extra seconds amounto for boot
[13:10] <nearst> learningLinux, usually it do
[13:10] <zilkomaa> Any ideas why i cannot install win7 from usb anymore? It gave me this - device error: cd/dvd device driver missing, it works fine in my another pc. After i booted from win7 dvd it installed just fine..
[13:11] <zilkomaa> I thought it was corrupted copy but like i said it worked my other pc..weird stuff
[13:11] <labsin> Tex_Nick: For me, nothing... I don't use them.
[13:11] <fruitFly> wut r the advantages of a /home?
[13:12] <labsin> amit111: If you can mount your /home from the live cd, then there is nothing wrong with it. You chould look it elsewere. If your /home is on a seperate partition, then you can just install ubuntu again using the same user and pw.
[13:13] <learningLinux> nearst   Usually it do??   Good grammer anyway,  you can set it to automatically connect to a connection.  That doesn't mean it is the strongest one.
[13:13] <fruitFly> I have 230GB free.. wut u think about my partitions: 4-8GB swap (i have 4GB of ram may upgrade), 1GB boot, 20GB / and 200GB /home???? or should / be bigger?
[13:13] <labsin> You don't need the boot partition
[13:14] <fruitFly> labsin: what's the harm
[13:14] <labsin> It's only necesary if you're Ubuntu is on a file system that grub can't handle
[13:14] <Ben64> provides no benefit, and if you ever run out of room on /boot, stuff will break
[13:14] <nearst>                    3
[13:15] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  back to you're question ... you would probably have problems with the windoze cache ... i would think ... someone will probably chime in on that
[13:16] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: If I get ubuntu on the ssd, I would obviously disable the win cache. No need for that as I use windows only for visual studio
[13:16] <labsin> fruitFly: If you only wich to install Ubuntu, look into the LVM patitioning.
[13:16] <androidappme> Hi everyone
[13:17] <androidappme> I need an urgent help
[13:17] <zilkomaa> labsin: Do you know how to get default menu in 12.04? Do i have to get theme for that?
[13:17] <androidappme> Can someone help me? Where can I find the daily iso of Ubuntu 13.04 for 64bit Intel?
[13:17] <labsin> PrincessLuna: And does Windows 8 complain if you move it's partition?
[13:18] <Ben64> androidappme: doesn't sound urgent, 13.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, and you can easily find the iso using google
[13:18] <PrincessLuna> labsin: Windows is on the HDD, I can reinstall it whenever I want on a new partiton
[13:18] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  in that case you would probably be good to go ... as long as bios will allow you to boot the device
[13:18] <fruitFly> labsin: what's wrong with my partitions?
[13:19] <labsin> PrincessLuna: I thought in case of an OEM Windows.
[13:19] <labsin> zilkomaa: How do you mean?
[13:19] <zilkomaa> labsin: Do you remember the oldschool ubuntu x-windows menus?
[13:19] <androidappme> Can you help me get the iso link for Intel 64bit? I saw AMD 64bit? Is that it?
[13:19] <Ben64> androidappme: yes
[13:19] <ikonia> androidappme: that's it
[13:20] <zilkomaa> labsin: Where all the installed procs are.
[13:20] <labsin> fruitFly: It looks good. I'd do it the same appart for the /boot. It doesn't do a thing more on another partition
[13:20] <androidappme> Ok. Thanks. Is there any download manager you would recommend?
[13:20] <ikonia> androidappme: web browser ?
[13:20] <PrincessLuna> labsin: It can still be reinstalled. For windows 8, as long as you have installation media the key is in the bios, so it automatically inserts the key and lets you use any retail media of same edition to reinstall windows
[13:20] <zilkomaa> labsin: Now we have this Dash thing..
[13:21] <labsin> zilkomaa: they are on /opt and /etc
[13:21] <androidappme> Yes, I tried but iso doesn't download completely. It shows 700 MB but when I put it on my usb and boots it, it gives me some missing error
[13:21] <fruitFly> labsin: so why not make a /boot? what's the harm?
[13:21] <labsin> zilkomaa -/etc i mean /usr
[13:21] <ikonia> androidappme: is this ubuntu 13.04 you are asking about
[13:21] <androidappme> Yes
[13:21] <ikonia> androidappme: right #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel
[13:21] <ikonia> not this one
[13:22] <androidappme> Ok thanks everyone. Have a nice day
[13:22] <zilkomaa> labsin: okok brb just re-installed nvidia drivers sudo reboot :D
[13:22] <labsin> fruitFly: because it's just a partition more with space unused and it could do serious harm if it ran out of room and it is just as stable when it's on the / partition. But you can do it anyhow. Why not :)
[13:22] <androidappme> Thanks everyone . Have a nice day
[13:22] <ikonia> androidappme: you said that
[13:23] <androidappme> Yes lol
[13:25] <labsin> zilkomaa: you can install another desktop environment. Most have a stable repo to install on Ubuntu so you can choose whitch one on login.
[13:28] <PrincessLuna> How can I get a UEFI system to boot Ubuntu with secureboot on?
[13:28] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  what pc are you using
[13:29] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: Haven't got it yet but plan to install on a thinkpad ultrabook
[13:29] <auronandace> !uefi | PrincessLuna
[13:30] <labsin> zilkomaa: To get the old Ubuntu, run `sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback`
[13:31] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  be aware that there have been some recent problems with uefi on,  i think it was a samsung device where ubuntu bricked the pc
[13:32] <labsin> Tex_Nick: Was fixed I think
[13:32] <wdp> Tex_Nick, you're right. It's with recently delivered samsung devices.
[13:32] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: I know, I bricked my teacher's Samsung ultrabook unknowingly very recently.
[13:32] <wdp> Tex_Nick, and it's happening with linux in general - not just ubuntu.
[13:32] <Tex_Nick> labsin:  yeah you're probably right ... i know they were working on it fast & furious
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:33] <labsin> Tex_Nick: they ended up just deleting the driver that caused the bug.
[13:34] <Tex_Nick> wdb : yeah ... right there ... thanks for elaborating
[13:34] <PrincessLuna> labsin: Tex_Nick Even though it was fixed the 12.10 and 12.04 images still have this problem as you can't update the media that has already been published unless you use a daily image
[13:35] <soee> hi, how can i start keyring daemon ?
[13:36] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  ok ... good to know you know about it :)
[13:37] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  out of curosity ... what kind of GPA will you make ... after bricking the teachers box ? ... just kidding ờᴗớ
[13:37] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: I learnt after bricking a laptop that wasn't mine. I was pretty scared but then removing cmos battery and laptop battery fixed it.
[13:37] <labsin> It was even a driver from Greg Kroah-Hartman writen on code he got from Samsung themself https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/h7FjkQKZHKT
[13:39] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  we're not talking bout that kind of bricking ... this issue requires a motherboard replacement
[13:40] <labsin> And the ppl with bricks got replacements from Samsung I think.
[13:40] <kalib> hello guys, I used adduser to create a user, but now this user doesn't have a "home" dir and also on terminal just shows me "$". doesn't show me the directory where I am and not even the "TAB" works to complete commands. What should I do?
[13:40] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  this new issue breaks the bios/cmos chip
[13:41] <labsin> you need adduser -s
[13:41] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: I can assure you it stopped after booting the Kubuntu liveusb. You do not actually have to replace the motherboard. Disconnecting both cmos and main battery fixes it. Disconnecting only cmos (which is what others tried) does not work.
[13:41] <labsin> type `man adduser` for more info
[13:41] <Tex_Nick> labsin:  yeah most did ... heard of a few that haven't yet for some reason
[13:41] <kalib> labsin: so, I need to remove and add again the same user?
[13:41] <labsin> And afterward you also nee to ad a password to is
[13:41] <labsin> Yes
[13:41] <kalib> ok..
[13:42] <PrincessLuna> Tex_Nick: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6713/samsung-laptops-bricked-by-booting-linux-using-uefi I tried the fix described here but had to do the additional step of removing ultrabook battery
[13:42] <labsin> it's not adduser -s
[13:42] <labsin> wait a bit
[13:43] <kalib> labsin: ok
[13:43] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  hey thanks for the link i'll have a look
[13:44] <Tex_Nick> the subject is kinda getting off topic for this channel though
[13:44] <labsin> it's `sudo adduser -m <username>`
[13:44] <kalib> thanks. ;]
[13:45] <labsin> then run `sudo passwd <username>` and choose a pwd
[13:46] <labsin> kalib: don't forget to add the passwd or you can't use it
[13:47] <labsin> Kalib: actually you can also just do it from "users and accounts" in settings.
[13:47] <kalib> labsin: ok. any specific way to remove the user? or just userdel will do it?
[13:48] <labsin> deluser
[13:49] <kalib> ok
[13:51] <Climbin> hi
[13:51] <labsin> hello
[13:52] <Tex_Nick> PrincessLuna:  that was a good read, thanks for it ... you must be much younger that me ... i'm 3 Hrs older that water ... my eyes no longer permit me to work on lappy's, havetrouble even finding the screws... still do good with desktops & mainframes though @^@
[13:54] <MikeH> How is Ubuntu's ZFS support?
[13:54] <Wolfpup> dose any one here do encodeing on Ubuntu
[13:54] <ThinkT510> !zfs | MikeH
[13:54] <kalib> labsin: strange.. # adduser -m dtoti
[13:54] <kalib> Unknown option: m
[13:55] <mikylover> ciao a tutti
[13:55] <mikylover> !list
[13:56] <jrib> kalib: I don't think you used "adduser" originally.  You probably used "useradd" instead.  Just do "adduser USERNAME"
[13:56] <labsin> kalib: just open dash, search users and accounts.
[13:56] <kalib> labsin: worked. thanks
[13:57]  * Wolfpup guesses no one here is realy paying attention
[13:58] <Wulf> Wolfpup: I only saw your spelling mistakes
[13:59] <labsin> Wolfpup: encodeing?
[13:59] <Wolfpup> yes
[13:59] <Wulf> Wolfpup: it's spelled "encoding"
[14:00]  * Wolfpup is still trying to wake up
[14:00] <Wolfpup> please see this topic for reference -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113242
[14:01] <lost_RD> Anybody have any experience installing Ubuntu on HP ML350 G6? I know it's been done on G8 and G5 but I can't find any success stories about the G6.
[14:01] <hello> <- thought that the internet would inspire a spelling revolution
[14:01] <Wulf> hello: it did.
[14:02] <_methods> lost_RD: don't see why it wouldn't work on that
[14:02] <hello> come to think of it, ur right
[14:02]  * Wolfpup is running xubuntu 12.04 on a older Compaq CQ70 series laptop
[14:03] <lost_RD> _methods: Installation fails, I didn't see anything that explained why either
[14:03] <_methods> what version?
[14:03] <Wolfpup> lost_RD what is the cCP
[14:03] <Wolfpup> CPU *
[14:03] <labsin> Wolfpup: so you wan't do automate the script?
[14:04] <Wolfpup> yes labsin
[14:04] <Wolfpup> automate/more generic is how i want the script
[14:05] <lost_RD> _methods: 12.10, perhaps I should try something less new?
[14:05] <Wolfpup> as the script is now i have to edit for each epsiode i want to encode
[14:05] <_methods> lost_RD: desktop or server?
[14:05] <Wolfpup> plus it is not getting the fonts from the mkv and 'installing' them
[14:05] <lost_RD> Wolfpup: I'm not overly sure and would have to check the hardware physically (I was given it minus documentation)
[14:06] <lost_RD> _methods: Server
[14:06] <Wolfpup> lost_RD if your useing the i386 on an amd based system then you mthe amd versionight need to try
[14:07] <_methods> lost_RD: Raid array?
[14:07] <igama> Hey :)
[14:07] <Wolfpup> lost_RD if your useing the i386 on an amd based system then you might need to try  the amd version
[14:08] <Wolfpup> dang touch pad on my lappy
[14:08] <lost_RD> Wolfpup: I didn't see an amd version on the download page, I think it's running Xeon though
[14:09] <lost_RD> _methods: Uhh... yes? I'm new to this. There are multiple HDDs installed in the case.
[14:09] <igama> Wolfpup lost_RD that has nothing to do with it, what matters is if it is 64bits are 32bits ( don't think about intel / amd )
[14:09] <_methods> well are you sure it's booting from the array you installed to?
[14:09] <rootlance> Help me to download youtube videos pls/
[14:10] <sfsf32> since ubuntu has born in africa and its name is a zulù word, is slavery involved in the making of ubuntu?
[14:10] <lost_RD> _methods: It doesn't complete the install
[14:10] <_methods> lost_RD: what does it say and where does the install stop?
[14:10] <rootlance> how can i download youtube videos?
[14:11] <Wolfpup> lost_RD look here -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[14:11] <lost_RD> _methods: I'll have to get back to you on that, it's been a while since I last tried. I'll try everything that has been mentioned tomorrow and report back.
[14:12] <iceroot> rootlance: have a look at "youtube-dl" which is in the repos
[14:12] <lost_RD> Wolfpup: Ahh thanks, I'll give that a go
[14:13] <_methods> lost_RD: did it say anything like could not open device at /dev/ipmi0.......
[14:13] <Wolfpup> lost_RD on the page i just posted it list both the i386(32bit) and AMD64( for 64bit systems)
[14:14] <_methods> lost_RD: or did it throw up a panic?
[14:14] <IdleOne> rootlance: FloodBot1 and FloodBot2 are not real people, they will not respond to your private messages.
[14:14] <lost_RD> _methods: I don't recall any specific errors, just that the installation could not be completed. Was there a log somewhere that I could have read?
[14:15] <lost_RD> Wolfpup: Yep, dling both now. Thanks!
[14:17] <Wolfpup> lasbin i had orginaly started out trying to use mplayer as a 'frame server' for x264 but that was not working at all
[14:18] <labsin> I C
[14:18] <labsin> What do you have now
[14:19] <labsin> What doesn't the lines do?
[14:22] <Wolfpup> labsin i do not have a line(s) for extracting the fonts( those are stored in the mkv as attachments) to $HOME/.fonts and i have to manually edit the file creating the file name for the sub track and if the video file had any 'special' charecters in the file name the encode will fail
[14:22] <labsin> mkvextract attachments shoeld be able to do it
[14:23] <labsin> http://linux.die.net/man/1/mkvextract
[14:27] <Wolfpup> labsin i need the script to find out how many of those fonts there are in the file because the number can change between epsodes
[14:27] <labsin> So you need to run mkvmerge --identify
[14:27] <labsin> mkvmerge --identify <the file>
[14:28] <Wolfpup> but i need it doing it in a script not manualy each time
[14:28] <labsin> I know
[14:29] <labsin> Can you do it manually?
[14:29] <Wolfpup> that is where im stumped
[14:29] <labsin> If you can doe it manually from the command, then you can do it automaticly.
[14:30] <labsin> Can you run mkvmerge --identify on such a file quick?
[14:30] <crocket> I installed xchat on ubuntu 12.10, but it doesn't have any menu on the top.
[14:30] <crocket> Whatis wrong?
[14:31] <labsin> Crocket: isn't it in the menu on the top top top of the window?
[14:31] <crocket> labsin : There is no menu in xchat.
[14:32] <labsin> crocket: do you mean like Setting, windows, help, ...?
[14:32] <crocket> labsin, yes
[14:32] <Wolfpup> please forgive the spam that is comeing vvvvvvv
[14:32] <crocket> I can't see the menu.
[14:32] <labsin> Ik does with me...
[14:32] <Wolfpup> Track ID 1: video (V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC) Track ID 2: audio (A_AAC) Track ID 3: subtitles (S_TEXT/ASS) Attachment ID 1: type 'application/x-truetype-font', size 75156 bytes, file name 'Caxton_Book_BT.ttf' Attachment ID 2: type 'application/octet-stream', size 5872144 bytes, file name 'DFKKS9.TTC' Attachment ID 3: type 'application/octet-stream', size 5754084 bytes, file name 'KaiC_0.ttc' Attachment ID 4: type 'application/x-truetype-font'
[14:32] <crocket> labsin : What's wrong with my ubuntu installation?
[14:32] <crocket> What's the version of your ubuntu?
[14:32] <Wolfpup> labsin that is the output
[14:33] <Wolfpup> i have some mkv's that have over a dozen fonts in them
[14:33] <OerHeks> crocket, the file/edit menu is on the top panel, this is called 'global menu'
[14:34] <hillary> Give me a command to completely remove aptana studio from my system 12.04 ubuntu
[14:35] <labsin> So you see here that the Id of the first is ID1 so you can run: `mkvextract attachments <file> 1:Caxton_Book_BT.ttf
[14:35] <labsin> Can you test that
[14:35] <Alpo\> hello
[14:35] <crocket> OerHeks, The global menu is missing in my xchat.
[14:35] <crocket> What's wrong?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> hillary: depends how you installed it
[14:36] <Wolfpup> lasbin the mkv i just did has 11 attachements but some mkv's i have have any where from 0 to 24 fints in them
[14:36] <hillary> ThinkT510, i installed it manualy
[14:36] <Alpo\> the "system program problem" message window doesn't show up in alt-tab list. Is this dependent on my config or is it a bug?
[14:36] <ThinkT510> hillary: then you will need to remove it manually
[14:37] <hillary> no terminal command?
[14:37] <labsin> But can you extract it the way I proposed? I don't have mkv's to test with. Ones you have a series of commands that work, you can find how to get a list of them etc...
[14:37] <ThinkT510> hillary: notice the amount of details you provided
[14:38] <hillary> ThinkT510,  sorry i meant a terminal command to remove it
[14:39] <Pici> hillary: You need to be more specific about how you installed it before we can do that.
[14:39] <ThinkT510> hillary: likewise, notice the details you provided: installed manually
[14:39] <Wolfpup> another part of my problem is that the files have '[' and other 'special' charecters in them as well which can cause issues so i need to gen a cleaned file name
[14:40] <hillary> i downloaded it manualy then install
[14:40] <ThinkT510> hillary: by doing...
[14:40] <labsin> you can get them out easily with a simble `ls` a `grep` and a mv
[14:41] <Pici> hillary: how? did you say a magic word? did you click something? did you type a command? what command?
[14:41] <labsin> hillary - most of the times you must do the exact same as to install it, but replace `install` with `remove`
[14:42] <hillary> Pici, ThinkT510  let me retrive the command please
[14:43] <hillary> ThinkT510,  when i download i use "sudo unzip Aptana_Studio.zip -d /opt"
[14:43] <mirkogandi> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:44] <crocket> OK
[14:44] <crocket> In unity, the global menu is displayed on the top of the screen instead of xchat.
[14:44] <ThinkT510> hillary: then you need to rm whatever is in /opt that has to do with aptana_studio
[14:44] <mirkogandi> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:45] <labsin> Does it have a shortcut in the dash?
[14:45] <hillary> ThinkT510,  ok let me try
[14:45] <Pici> mirkogandi: can we help you with something?
[14:45] <labsin> Wolfpup: I'm going to react on you post on ubuntuforms with wat I found so far.
[14:45] <msween00> hey so i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my new laptop that shipped with win8, wanted to set up a dual boot, but there's no window 8 entry in grub, i tried doing an update-grub but it doesn't find it. i can see all my windows files, i don't know why it won't find it. something I'm missing?
[14:46] <ThinkT510> !uefi | msween00
[14:46] <tvw> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 yesterday. Today I installed VirtualBox 4.2 from the sources provided by Oracle. How do I make the VirtualBox-Icon appear in the dash?
[14:47] <Wolfpup> ok labsin im also going to put the informating that i just generated there as well
[14:47] <msween00> ThinkT510: the ubuntu installation works.. just can't get windows booted..?
[14:48] <setrex> I stupidly uninstalled network-manager on my machine and now I can't get networking to work again. How should I proceed?
[14:49] <setrex> (I tried downloading the .deb from another machine and doing dpkg -i network-manager…deb but my wireless doesn't start working again.)
[14:50] <ThinkT510> setrex: sudo service networking restart
[14:51] <kishen> hey guys how do i uninstall ubuntu 12.04 and install windows 8 via usb?
[14:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey everyone! Big problem: I can't install Ubuntu 12.04 alongside Windows 8 (ubiquity keeps crashing at about the time zone select screen). I've tried every flavor in the house and they all crash at that point. What to do?!
[14:51] <theadmin> Is there a channel for Ubuntu One? I have a question that relates only to One. Basically it doesn't work on Windows XP even though the site says it should.
[14:52] <Tex_Nick> kishen:  oh man not in this channel please :(
[14:53] <kishen> Tex_Nick Sorry bro
[14:53] <labsin> Kishen: NON buy Windows 8. :D
[14:53] <xangua> theadmin: #ubuntuone :P
[14:53] <labsin> Kishen: You don't have to uninstall Ubuntu
[14:53] <ThinkT510> !one | theadmin
[14:53] <theadmin> xangua: Fair enough :D
[14:53] <hillary> ThinkT510,  Thanks i have managed by use of "root@hillary-ESPRIMO-Mobile:/opt# rm -r Aptana_Studio_3"
[14:53] <labsin> Kishen: I think you will get the option to use the whole drive when you install Win8
[14:53] <setrex> ThinkT510, Trying that I get crashes
[14:54] <kishen> labsin: how do i do that?
[14:54] <labsin> Don't know
[14:54] <OerHeks> theadmin, maybe this answer is helpfull, http://askubuntu.com/a/156608
[14:54] <ThinkT510> hillary: why are you root?
[14:54] <labsin> How have you bought Win8? It's not free
[14:54] <Pici> kishen: If you're just replacing Ubuntu, you don't need to uninstall it.  Just install over it.  The folks in ##windows can help you with that.
[14:55] <kishen> labsin: i downloaded from the net
[14:55] <kishen> Pici: how do i do that?
[14:55] <Pici> kishen: /join ##windows
[14:55] <Pici> kishen: ask them
[14:55] <kishen> Pici: Thank you
[14:56] <hillary> ThinkT510, opt is in the filesytem and i thought it requires super privilleges. Any mistake?
[14:56] <setrex> Any other ideas on how I could potential get my wireless networking running again?
[14:56] <atul>  /join #c
[14:56] <ThinkT510> hillary: why aren't you using sudo?
[14:56] <setrex> I tried rebooting. No wireless networks are shown
[14:57] <hillary> ThinkT510,  sure you are right because even sudo could have ax
[14:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Never mind, got it working (with --no-migration-assistant)
[14:57] <Wolfpup> labsin i change the file sturcture section of my orginal post to the information from mkvextract --identify
[14:58] <hillary> ThinkT510,  could have asked password. Thank for your advice
[14:58] <mirkogandi> ciao
[14:58] <hillary> ThinkT510,  at least am learning a lot.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> hillary: yes learning is good, a root prompt is hardly ever needed
[14:59] <labsin> Wolfpup ok tnx
[14:59] <theadmin> OerHeks: Nope, those files don't exist in my installation, that's for an older version though so I guess...
[14:59] <setrex> A shame "repair installation" is not available
[15:00] <Wolfpup> labsin the example there has 11 attachments but some will have more and some will have less
[15:01] <setrex> does anyone happen to know what happens to network-manager configuration files when it is uninstalled in favor of connman? perhaps I can restore those config files
[15:02] <compdoc> setrex, networking screwed up?
[15:02] <setrex> compdoc, yes
[15:02] <labsin> You can pipe this to grep "application/x-truetype-font" and you have only the lines with the fonds
[15:02] <compdoc> have you added nics, or changed hardware?
[15:03] <compdoc> setrex ^
[15:03] <setrex> compdoc, what I did was, stupidly to install "connman" which uninstalled network-manager
[15:03] <xangua> setrex: last time i tried connman didn't work for me, if by configuration files you mean reinstall network manager, you can reinstall it if you have a live cd with you
[15:03] <compdoc> I never install network-manager, so it does work without it
[15:04] <setrex> xangua, I downloaded and reinstalled network-manager via another computer, but it still won't work
[15:04] <setrex> xangua, how can I install it back from the lived (used USB boot live)
[15:04] <dkrj> Hi everyone, I could use a little help debugging my network interface. I am able to ping my gateway and other machines but then it just times out and after a short while it comes back with more responses.
[15:05] <xangua> setrex: via another computer¿
[15:05] <setrex> xangua, I downloaded .deb files and transferred via USB and dpkg -i them
[15:05] <xangua> setrex just mark the cd/dvd as source in Software Center>Edit>Sources
[15:05] <setrex> xangua, okay Will try that. Thanks
[15:06] <xangua> setrex: and those files were¿ was it from the same ubuntu release¿
[15:06] <reflex__> k
[15:06] <setrex> xangua, I think so, but I might be wrong
[15:06] <setrex> xangua, will try the "CD" ones
[15:08] <tvw> How does Unity decide, which applications it shows to the user in the dash?
[15:08] <roger21> hey, when i have un uexpected system freeze (not x, don't have x) what log can i check?
[15:09] <roger21> (i mean after hard reboot)
[15:13] <compdoc> roger21, with a hard freeze, the system has no way to write to the logs
[15:14] <roger21> weel should i check the last logged thing like maybe as a possible source of a problem?
[15:14] <^raykelo^> hola a todos
[15:15] <setrex> xangua, I might have screwed up something when I used dpkg -i on the packages
[15:18] <Prufrock> Hi all
[15:19] <setrex> "apt-cache show network-manager" now points to the .deb I used and not the version on the livecd. Is this possible to fix?
[15:19] <BadDesign> Anyone here managed to install PostgreSQL 9.2 on K/Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal?
[15:19] <labsin> Wolfpup, Have you tried to extract the ttf's already?
[15:19] <Prufrock> I know some of you might not like to hear this, but the LibreOffice version that is included in Ubuntu is extremely obnoxious! :(
[15:20] <Wolfpup> yes but it faild cause i tried to one line batch them
[15:20] <theadmin> Prufrock: And what's that supposed to mean? It's the same libreoffice as anywhere.
[15:21] <Wolfpup> labsin uploading three ls.txt file to the fourm
[15:22] <nick07> hell, how do i start my ubuntu 12.10 without monitor attached?
[15:22] <nick07> *hello
[15:22] <naru> #glugpesce
[15:22] <Prufrock> theadmin, Well, I really don't what's the matter with it, but I'm trying to get some work done here and it's making me want to punch the screen..!! ><
[15:23] <setrex> all I get now when trying to install packages is a lot of "requires installation of non trusted packages" messages
[15:23] <Wolfpup> labsin i just finished the post to the topic
[15:24] <nick07> ubuntu 12.10 doesnt start and login if monitor is not found, anyone a solution?
[15:24] <theadmin> nick07: It starts. What doesn't start is X, the graphical environment.
[15:24] <nick07> yes, i'm sorry
[15:25] <nick07> Is there a way to start X?
[15:25] <Nach0z> startx
[15:26] <DX099> hello. My computer ungracefully shut down and I want to know why. On Windows, in the logs, you can see if it was a power failure or something like. But on Ubuntu, syslog isn't that verbose... How to find out ?
[15:27] <nick07> is there a way to automaticly start x without monitor attached
[15:27] <labsin> Wolfpup: does running `mkvextract attachments <file> 1:` on one of the files ressult in a ttf in that folder?
[15:27] <helmut_> hi
[15:28] <Nach0z> nick07: you could set up a crontab to do the startx command. setting the time to "@reboot" instead of the normal "10 * * * *" kinda stuff, will make it run when the computer turns on.
[15:28] <naru> hi..
[15:30] <theadmin> Nach0z: Correction: When the cron daemon starts or restarts.
[15:31] <canihojr> buenas
[15:31] <belgianguy> what PPA is libreoffice part of?
[15:31] <nick07> another question, when i share a folder in ubuntu 12.10, the other machine (windows or linux) ask permission with name and password, but my password doesnt work
[15:31] <belgianguy> or does it come with the default Ubuntu PPA's?
[15:31] <aboudreault> where is the ldap configuration file in ubuntu system?
[15:31] <theadmin> belgianguy: It's not in a PPA, it's in the default Ubuntu repos.
[15:32] <Nach0z> theadmin: ah huh. well either way, that's normally at boot time
[15:32] <techojabber> hi ya
[15:32] <belgianguy> ah thanks theadmin, so 4.0 will come by automatically then?
[15:33] <theadmin> belgianguy: Updates on Ubuntu don't quite work this way, I'm afraid -- Ubuntu usually only provides security updates, no major updates, Mozilla software being the only exception. This is to avoid stuff suddenly changing.
[15:33] <theadmin> belgianguy: Users don't like changes most of the time
[15:33] <techojabber> ok lets chat
[15:34] <STMelon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[15:34] <STMelon> sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <STMelon> sudo apt-get install libreoffice libreoffice-gnome
[15:34] <STMelon> ^^^^ updated libreoffice
[15:34] <belgianguy> STMelon: I'd say do a purge first, no?
[15:34] <belgianguy> or will it really update my 3.6.x
[15:34] <STMelon> it will
[15:34] <Wolfpup> labsin -> nError: Invalid attachment ID/file name specification in argument '1:'.
[15:34] <naru> #glugpesce
[15:34] <belgianguy> STMelon: thanks!
[15:37] <techojabber> ok
[15:37] <nearst> hi ppl
[15:38] <STMelon> belgianguy: read this 1st though, it may conflict with the older office version
[15:38] <STMelon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132837/how-do-i-install-the-latest-stable-version-of-libreoffice
[15:38] <belgianguy> STMelon: ah, good to know, will read up on that first
[15:39] <STMelon> 4.0 is still alpha, so no guarantees to it's stability
[15:41] <techojabber> i just install zorin os 6
[15:41] <belgianguy> STMelon: the site of LO says 4.0 has arrived, and it was RC3 a few days ago
[15:41] <lolla76> !list
[15:41] <techojabber> but it will not update
[15:42] <DJones> techojabber: You'll need to ask in the zorin support channels, this is Ubuntu support only
[15:42] <Coded1> I have a pirated version of the linux kernel if anyone wants it
[15:42] <Coded1> it's a really early beta
[15:42] <FlowRiser> Coded1, why pirate it ? isn't it already free ? O.o
[15:42] <techojabber> name of channel
[15:43] <FlowRiser> Coded1, oooh
[15:43] <DJones> !alis > techojabber
[15:43] <mAniAk-_-> running 12.10 on a lenovo x230 laptop. having issues with the network-manager applet menu, after some uptime i cant click any menus in it anymore, nothing happens, any ideas?
[15:43] <Coded1> :)
[15:44] <Coded1> is it possible to overclock a radeon 7000 series GPU in linux/ubuntu?
[15:45] <STMelon> belgianguy: one thing that happened when i upgraded my libreoffice, it installs libreoffice base as well, which in turn installed openjdk6 and icedtea browser plugin
[15:45] <STMelon> whith all the java exploits and insecurities, i was not happy
[15:45] <belgianguy> STMelon: ouch, that's indeed unwanted
[15:45] <STMelon> coded1: you cant warez something thats freely given
[15:45] <belgianguy> almost as annoying as Oracle's persistance on including Ask
[15:46] <Coded1> STMelon: it was a bit of a joke
[15:46] <STMelon> yea rofl, even if you click no for the ask toolbar, in the windows registry, you'll find an ASK key
[15:46] <Coded1> more of a byte
[15:46] <Coded1> :)
[15:46] <craig___> How do I ask dpkg/apt which package provides /usr/bin/$file ?
[15:46] <belgianguy> STMelon: it's as if Oracle really wants people to disband Java
[15:46] <tvw> Wow! What desktop do you use on 12.04? Unity brings my productivity down to zero! I thought I give it a try, but after 12 hours I am completely pissed.
[15:46] <STMelon> belgianguy: so for me, im using the default 12.04 buntu libreoffice version
[15:46] <jrib> craig___: dpkg -S
[15:46] <belgianguy> STMelon: well I was really curious about 4.0
[15:47] <craig___> jrib: Thanks
[15:47] <STMelon> java, these days isnt really used as much as it was
[15:47] <belgianguy> and am a bit the "living on the edge" kinda guy :p
[15:47] <retentiveboy> configure script for a kernel module I'm trying to build/use is looking for /usr/module/(uname -r)/source.  What package provides this?
[15:47] <jrib> craig___: if you need to do this a lot, consider using dlocate which will be quite a bit faster
[15:47] <belgianguy> STMelon: well Android has some use for it
[15:47] <STMelon> yea i like bleeding edge too, but ive found the stable versions seems to do the trick for me these days
[15:47] <belgianguy> I bet that doesn't make Larry Ellison happy
[15:48] <L3top> tvw: I use KDE.
[15:48] <L3top> tvw: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:48] <tvw> I see. I used Gnome2 on 10.04 I was very pleased with it.
[15:48] <WolfpupL> labsin check pm
[15:49] <craig___> jrib: also a good idea, thanks.
[15:49] <gray--> anyone recommend any docs to read regarding Ubuntu kickstarting?  i've got the installer to load, partitions the disks, but fails when trying to install the system.  the syslog doesn't give a great deal away sadly
[15:49] <L3top> There is an unofficial flavor called gnome remix which will give you gnome 2 or 3 on 12.10
[15:49] <L3top> tvw: ^
[15:50] <L3top> tvw /join #ubuntu-gnome
[15:50] <setrex> does anyone know how to make a flash memory created with unetbootin into an apt-source?
[15:51] <STMelon> <- actually likes unity, i disabled apport, whoopsie, removed the music,video lens, disabled the guest acct. yadda yadda .. few more tweaks
[15:51] <STMelon> and it runs pretty sweet here
[15:52] <setrex> STMelon how long have you been using it for?
[15:52] <STMelon> unity? 3 or 4 months
[15:53] <STMelon> i come from opensuse then mint
[15:53] <STMelon> figured if im using a buntu base OS, i'd rather be just buntu
[15:53] <STMelon> plus unity is different
[15:53] <STMelon> i like change
[15:53] <STMelon> gnome,kde, balh
[15:53] <L3top> setrex: you would want to auto-mount it, and add-          deb file:/path/to/mount_point ./ to the top of /etc/apt/sources.list... then create Package files...    pushd /path/to/mount_point; dpkg-scanpackages -m . /dev/null | tee Packages | gzip -c > Packages.gz; popd
[15:53] <STMelon> blah*
[15:54] <setrex> L3top, glorious, thanks
[15:54] <galbak0> does opensuse still use the suse file structure?
[15:54] <L3top> setrex: you will need some dpkg dev package I think... one second
[15:54] <STMelon> btrfs?
[15:54] <setrex> L3top, do you also happen to know how to get rid of all traces of something installed with dpkg -i?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> galbak0  better ask in their channel
[15:54] <galbak0> yah, just an idle query lol
[15:55] <L3top> setrex: It should still be visible to apt... you should be able to purge it.
[15:55] <setrex> hmm ok
[15:57] <L3top> setrex: I think you need the build-essentials package to get dpkg-scanpackages
[15:58] <setrex> ok
[15:58] <canihojr> hi
[15:59] <godzirra> Can anyone help me figure out why my udev rule isn't working?  http://pastebin.com/wWJSaxRz is a copy of the rule and the udevadm output.
[15:59] <Nedz> Hello :)
[15:59] <canihojr> litle question, on liveUSB i can view plymouth without problems but wen i finish my install, i dont view more....  :( some idea?? (bad english, im spanis sorry!)
[16:00] <Nedz> can anyone help with a system not booting up properly ?
[16:00] <vmachine> can some assist me in the commands to replicate the permission on ownership of this   drwxrwxr-x  2 root bind 4096 Jan 31 16:49 zones
[16:01] <setrex> Actually leaning towards complete wipe and reinstall
[16:02] <belgianguy> STMelon: thanks, installation succesful :) looks quite nice
[16:02] <STMelon> np
[16:11] <nearst> fglrx-legacy really broken atm :(
[16:18] <alami> .10
[16:19] <alami> hello after install update on my ubuntu 12.10 i can|t see the side bar and the dock on left side
[16:20] <User001> I have W7 and Ubuntu dual booted, but last night deleted my Linux partition. Now when I boot up it goes into Rescue Mode, how can I boot the C: drive from GRUB?
[16:20] <ThinkT510> User001: reinstall the windows bootloader, help in ##windows
[16:20] <pongeboll> ciao
[16:21] <daze> yeah, boot windows from the cd, go to rescue section and press "fix boot issues" :)
[16:21] <pongeboll> !list
[16:21] <User001> I don't have a CD drive on this computer, and I've never managed to repair windows from a USB
[16:21] <nearst> User001, incase u install in sda, just setup(hd0,0), best practice by using livecd
[16:22] <User001> nearst, setup is an unknown command.
[16:22] <nearst> User001, use livecd then.
[16:23] <alami> after install update i cant see the dash on the left and close minimize bar
[16:24] <User001> Does Ubuntu Server on unetbootin have a 'LiveCD' option?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> User001  server is an installer, not a live cd
[16:25] <nearst> u can chroot and grub-install, but in advance mode im guess.
[16:27] <User001> Can I do it from 'Execute a shell' on the unstaller?
[16:28] <formerflyboy> I installed 12.04 using Wubi and have been using it for a few months, setting up everything the way I want it and am ready to dump Winbloze for good. Is it possible to backup all my Linux info so that after wiping the drive for a Linux only install I can restore from the backup and have only minor tweaking to get things running again or am I going to have to reinstall and setup all the software all over again?
[16:28] <alami> anu support here_
[16:28] <marahin> no.
[16:29] <nearst> thereis a lot of backup feature in ubuntu. u also can backup your current image as iso and run it on usb for installation
[16:29] <OerHeks> formerflyboy, if you remove windows, ypu also remove wubi/ubuntu.
[16:30] <OerHeks> nearst +1
[16:30] <g-wiz> halllooo
[16:30] <nearst> User001, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[16:31] <BluesKaj> formerflyboy, http://popey.com/blog/2009/07/16/migrating-from-wubi-to-full-ubuntu-install/
[16:31] <formerflyboy> OerHeks: I realize that. I'm assuming that I can't just backup the entire Linux folder in Windows and use it to somehow restore my files, programs, server settings, etc. once I've installed Ubuntu...??
[16:31] <g-wiz> anyone have a good book to read for Ubuntu CLI?
[16:31] <ikonia> g-wiz: ubuntu cli = Linux cli = any book
[16:32] <formerflyboy> BluesKaj: thanks for the link....reading it now
[16:32] <nearst> read man im guess, im still refer man sometime :)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !console | g-wiz
[16:32] <dtcrshr> formerflyboy: I may be wrong, but I think that if you copy your /home folder into somewhere else, and after a clean install create an user with the same name and overrite the /home/user with your latest content most of the things you set up wold go back
[16:32] <dtcrshr> but installed software, system configuration files I dunno
[16:32] <BluesKaj> dtcrshr, http://popey.com/blog/2009/07/16/migrating-from-wubi-to-full-ubuntu-install/
[16:33] <nearst> formerflyboy, try look for remastersys application. it make your backup as your iso
[16:33] <dtcrshr> BluesKaj: bingo
[16:33] <dtcrshr> formerflyboy: ^^
[16:33] <BluesKaj> dtcrshr, :) ...let's hope that works for him
[16:33] <pongeboll> ciao
[16:33] <pongeboll> !list
[16:35] <anonymousraptr> i am having problems setting my screen to not go into suspend mode in ubuntu 12.10
[16:36] <nearst> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-suspend-and-hibernation-problem-for-laptops.html
[16:36] <sidney_> My installation of 10.04 freezes on boot @ a black screen with cursor how can I fix this
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | sidney_ 10.04 will be !eol in 8 weeks from now
[16:38] <g-wiz> sweet thanks BluesKaj
[16:38] <metaphysician> Why does tumblerd always keeps crashing?
[16:38] <nearst>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[16:39] <sidney_> 8 weeks. has anyone forked 12.04 to something like gnome2
[16:39] <unhuman> hi
[16:39] <unhuman> i noticed that i do not have postfix installed on my server
[16:39] <anonymousraptr> nearst: does it matter that its a PC and not a laptop?
[16:40] <unhuman> i am able to send emails from my ubuntu server, but i dont have postfix installed, so i wonder where i could possible change those settings?
[16:40] <john__> I have 2 SSD and 4 HD's. I want me hd's to turn off after 5 minutes inactivety but not the ssd's how do i do that?
[16:41] <nearst> anonymousraptr, afaik. it same. unless u need specific power module like lbm thinkpad :) . worth to try.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> sidney_  fallback looks much like gnome2
[16:42] <modgod> im trying to install mtop and I'm running into this warning message Warning: prerequisite Curses 0 not found.
[16:42] <modgod> Warning: prerequisite DBD::mysql 0 not found.
[16:42] <modgod> Warning: prerequisite DBI 0 not found.
[16:42] <modgod> Writing Makefile for mtop
[16:42] <modgod> Writing MYMETA.yml
[16:42] <FloodBot1> modgod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <modgod> how do I resolve this Warning: prerequisite Curses 0 not found. ?
[16:43] <sidney_> MonkeyDust thanks I'll give it a try
[16:44] <anonymousraptr> nearst: if im reading that page correctly it's trying to enable suspend mode. im trying to prevent my screen from ever going into suspend. i want it on 24/7. :)
[16:44] <g-wiz> what is the Ubuntu equivalent of .exe ?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> g-wiz  there is no such thing
[16:45] <g-wiz> Ok
[16:45] <BluesKaj> formerflyboy, sorry , that url isn't what I meant, this a better appraoch . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[16:45] <g-wiz> what is a common form that applications come in?
[16:45] <g-wiz> Just trying to understand the folder structure and where programs are stored in Ubuntu
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> g-wiz  start in /usr/bin
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> (bin = binary)
[16:46] <formerflyboy> BluesKaj: ok, got that one, too...
[16:46] <g-wiz> yeah I went in there it looks like these are programs
[16:46] <BluesKaj> formerflyboy, the previous one looks clunky and old
[16:46] <g-wiz> I recognize chown
[16:46] <g-wiz> that is a terminal command for changing ownership right?
[16:46] <Krustyklimber> hi, I'm having trouble with my update manager, for the last few days when I start-up... I get an error that says I am not connected to the internet, but clearly I am connected
[16:47] <formerflyboy> BluesKaj: Probably is older...it mentions a migration tool in the works but they didn't use it....
[16:47] <genii-around> john__: You can make an /etc/hdparm.conf file with something like /dev/sda {spindown_time = 60}      as contents... (put a line for each of the drives you want to do this and of course use their proper /dev designations)
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ok ...gotta go push some snow ....the benefits of living in "The Great White North" :)
[16:47] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: try ifconfig and check your network settings
[16:48] <Krustyklimber> how do I try that?
[16:48] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber:  open your terminal and type "ifconfig"
[16:48] <Krustyklimber> ok
[16:49] <Krustyklimber> ok now what?
[16:50] <Bijoux> Hi there. Have some general questions about using ubuntu on an Apple ibook G4 power pc. Can anyone help? Thanks
[16:51] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber:  if you're using a wireless adapter the data under wlan0 should tell you if you are connected and have errors or not.
[16:51] <Nedz> can anyone help with a system not booting up properly ?
[16:51] <gray--> in kickstarting, how do i tell the client where to find the iso?  i'm trying to use 'url --url http://192.168.0.10/ubuntu/iso', but i can now see in the syslog, a request is made to 91.189.19.13. this server doesn't have a connection to the internet....
[16:51] <Bijoux> I haven't bought ubuntu yet, I want to know if it work or will I have the same problems with adobe flash that I am getting now.
[16:52] <gray--> seems like kickstarting with ubuntu's a dark art....
[16:52] <anonymousraptr> Bijoux: ubuntu is free
[16:52] <Krustyklimber> errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:813 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[16:52] <g-wiz> so the /dev folder is what holds hardware configurations?
[16:52] <genii-around> Bijoux: You might want to enquire in the #ubuntu-ppc channel
[16:53] <gray--> g-wiz: it's a list of the hardware, probably not accurate to say it holds configuration
[16:53] <xangua> Bijoux: flash sucks in linux, fact
[16:53] <g-wiz> ok cool
[16:53] <gray--> it's a reference of the hardware, a way to address it
[16:53] <g-wiz> oh right I get it
[16:53] <cozby> hi, does anyone know how to apply _just_ security updates?
[16:53] <cozby> via apt-get
[16:53] <cozby> I feel like this is major flaw in the apt program
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> g-wiz  http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[16:54] <cozby> with yum you can do something like yum update --security
[16:54] <g-wiz> thank you MonkeyDust
[16:54] <Bijoux> thank you genii-around. I'll ty there.
[16:54] <cozby> and have only security updates applied
[16:54] <Krustyklimber> I wouldn't be chatting with y'all if I wasn't connected to the internet
[16:54] <cozby> is there a apt equivalent?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> cozby  there's dpkg - what's wrong with apt?
[16:54] <cozby> MonkeyDust: well, I can't find a way to just apply security updates
[16:55] <cozby> there's no apt equivalent to yum update --security
[16:55] <cozby> that.. I know of?
[16:55] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: sorry, i have 5 diff systems in front of me. sometimes i assume people are having problems with their ubuntu system while chatting using a windows or osx machine.
[16:55] <cozby> maybe you do
[16:55] <Krustyklimber> oh I see... nope I only run ubuntu 12.04
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> cozby:  if you only want security updates you should disable the -updates repository and pull in just the -security repository, but i highly advise you accept all updates, including those in -updates
[16:56] <g-wiz> wow thanks a lot MonkeyDust this guide is awesome
[16:56] <alami> i can't chroot with live cd into my system because my system is new the the live cd
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> cozby:  because sometimes -updates gets stability updates, not just security updaes
[16:56] <g-wiz> this is exactly what I've been looking for
[16:56] <alami> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[16:56] <alami> any help
[16:57] <cozby> TheLordOfTime: interesting...  is there a resource the explains how to toggle kinds of repositories
[16:57] <genii-around> cozby: You can just make an alternate sources.list file with just the security repositories then use apt-get -c <alternate-file>
[16:57] <llutz> cozby:http://serverfault.com/a/282518
[16:57] <gray--> does this work: # aptitude -t quantal-security upgrade   ??
[16:58] <nitin__> what is the alternative of nokia ovi suite..??
[16:58] <Krustyklimber> details of error... Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_24.0.1312.68-r180326_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.228.98 80]
[16:58] <cozby> llutz: interesting. thanks I'll give that a shot
[16:58] <TheLordOfTime> gray--:  aptitude doesn't handle multiarch well, so its falling out of use.
[16:58] <gray--> I think i like genii-around's approach the best
[16:58] <gray--> :)
[16:59] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: you may need to purge your chrome ppa and reinstall chrome from there. experts, what do you say?
[16:59] <rymgas> hi,
[16:59] <rymgas> I have Oracle sql Developer
[16:59] <rymgas> I lounch it from terminal like this
[16:59] <rymgas>        ./sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh
[16:59] <rymgas> and then each time I have to write full path to jdk
[16:59] <FloodBot1> rymgas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <rymgas>       /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-oracle
[16:59] <llutz> genii-around: apt-get -c  is for alternate apt.conf, not sources.list, isn't it?
[17:00] <nitin__> how to connect my nokia phone to download the maps
[17:00] <g-wiz> is there an alternative to Microsoft Access for Ubuntu?
[17:00] <Krustyklimber> ok here's what I just did... I un-checked the google chrome update and all the rest of the updates loaded
[17:00] <nearst> awesome, my ubuntu running on phone, using arm kernel
[17:00] <g-wiz> Oh I read an article last night that Microsoft will be porting Office over to Ubuntu in 2014
[17:00] <ShaneO^> Hi guys is there a way to install ubuntu remotely as a main os?
[17:00] <Krustyklimber> so... purge my what? I don't know what ppa means
[17:01] <joshu> If I want to create a thin client OS of Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 how would I go about doing this?
[17:01] <nearst> joshu, try netinstall :)
[17:02] <rymgas> hi, I have OracleSQLDeveloper and i lounch it like this ./sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper.sh       and then each time i have to write full path to jdk
[17:02] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber:  when you installed chrome you did it using the terminal, right?  used a command like "wget".. blah blah?
[17:02] <rymgas> how can I do it shorter?
[17:03] <Krustyklimber> no I am not a terminal kinda user, I am a GUI kinda user... I went to google and downloaded  it
[17:03] <Krustyklimber> my mouse is my friend, my keyboard isn't lol
[17:03] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: you are going to want to start getting familiar with terminal. there are simply things you just cant do with just gui.
[17:04] <root_> hi all
[17:04] <rymgas> hi
[17:04] <rymgas> can someone help me?
[17:04] <joshu> nearst ok I will look at that. I know there are commercial and open source solutions that build off of ubuntu, but I have noticed that they contain to many limitations in terms of hardware support. What I ideally would want is to retain the hardware compatibility of Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ and customise the UI
[17:04] <Krustyklimber> how does one use the terminal if they don't speak terminal, ya know?
[17:05] <syntroPi> !ask | rymgas
[17:05] <disputin> with their fingers
[17:05] <Krustyklimber> when I downloaded chrome... I didn't even know there was a terminal....
[17:06] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: you learn slowly, piece by piece with patience. its all good.
[17:06] <disputin> so if you want to do something in a terminal, google can help
[17:06] <melty> lol
[17:06] <Krustyklimber> yeah with patience, and you guys!
[17:06] <disputin> so if you want to download a file google: download file cli
[17:07] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/167728/how-do-i-remove-google-chrome-which-is-not-starting-anymore
[17:07] <nearst> joshu, foss rulez
[17:07] <syntroPi> Krustyklimber, did you try to launch it from a terminal and look for error messages?
[17:07] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: that steps you thru purge of chrome
[17:07] <Krustyklimber> ok thanks... I don't even use chrome
[17:08] <nearst> /usr/bin/google-chrome
[17:08] <Krustyklimber> I dunno how to launch anything from the terminal
[17:08] <syntroPi> apropos chrome: does anyone know where in the sources the tabs graphics is located? hopefully as svg or so?
[17:08] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: according to the error you are getting on boot its chrome that is causing it. time to read the link i gave you and just follow it. no worries.
[17:09] <rymgas> I want to launch OracleSqlDeveloper from Launcher, but I can only start it form terminal and then type the full pathname to JDK, how? :)
[17:09] <Krustyklimber> okay going to the link, and going to follow it :)
[17:09] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: ctrl+alt+t gets you to terminal
[17:09] <Krustyklimber> yeah that much I know... :P
[17:10] <Krustyklimber> I have a terminal open
[17:10] <nearst> use locate in terminal much easier
[17:11] <joshu> nearst yes I agree! Do you still suggest that I look at netinstall which is mini.iso, right?
[17:11] <anonymousraptr> krustykimlber: then in term type "sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable"
[17:12] <nearst> joshu, ya. mini.iso / netinstall allow u install ubuntu in minimal and install your own package
[17:12] <anonymousraptr> krustykimlber: if you do not plan on using chrome anyway, then thats all you have to do.  reboot and see if you still get the error
[17:12] <nearst> sudo apt-get remove --purge google-chrome
[17:13] <godzirra> Can anyone help me figure out why my udev rule isn't working?  http://pastebin.com/wWJSaxRz is a copy of the rule and the udevadm output.  Its not creating the symlink, so I assume its not matching the rule.
[17:13] <joshu> nearst and if I choose the mini.iso 12.04 does that mean that it supports the same hardware as the full desktop os or do i have to add drivers etc?
[17:14] <nearst> each ubuntu release base on lsb-release -a
[17:14] <nearst> brb
[17:16] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber: nearst is right. "sudo apt-get remove --purge google-chrome" will work better than what i said. his clears the whole kaboodle.
[17:18] <alami> http://pastebin.com/f3kVRhyu hello i have a Problem after installing update
[17:18] <alami> i can see the dash
[17:19] <adamk> alami: Remove the fglrx driver and try again.
[17:20] <alami> adamk: i can't chroot my system becouse it's x86_64
[17:20] <nearst> whynot?
[17:20] <alami> and the live cd is x86
[17:20] <adamk> alami: I didn't say anything about chrooting...
[17:20] <Krustyklimber> sudo apt-get remove --purge google-chrome didn't work
[17:21] <alami> adamk: i 'm now with live cd
[17:21] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber: same exact error on boot?
[17:22] <Krustyklimber> E: Command line option 'p' [from -purge] is not known.
[17:22] <alami> adamk: and with the other system i can 't do anything also with guest session
[17:22] <adamk> alami: Well if that's the only way you know to remove the fglrx driver, then get an x86_64 live CD.  But you could also try booting into single user mode, or even hitting control+alt+f2 to switch to another console after X attempts to start.
[17:22] <adamk> Or if you have ssh installed, you could log in from another machine.
[17:22] <syntroPi> alami, you cant change the running kernel. if its x86 then you stay x86
[17:23] <nearst> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:23] <alami> adamk: ok i will try so i havn't see also any rescu mode on 12.10
[17:23] <L3top> alami: can you ssh into it?
[17:23] <alami> L3top: nope
[17:23] <alami> :S
[17:24] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: are you sure you typed it correctly? sounds like you may have left a space in there. the command will work if typed correctly
[17:24] <Krustyklimber> yeah I probably typo'ed it
[17:24] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: copy and past it directly from nearst's post if you have doubt
[17:24] <alami> i thing with conntorl+alt+F1
[17:25] <Krustyklimber> I cannot paste into the terminal... that's what I tried the first time, so I typed it
[17:25] <sfan5> i have trouble booting the ubuntu 12.10 installer disc on my laptop with nvidia optimus
[17:25] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber:   sudo apt-get remove --purge google-chrome
[17:26] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber: you cant use ctrl+c to copy and paste no..  use the right click of your mouse instead
[17:26] <shad0w1e> is anyone experienced with using the linux-generic-lts-quantal kernel on Ubuntu 12.04? Is it safe for a production system?
[17:26] <Krustyklimber> yeah it did paste, but it didn't work
[17:27] <Krustyklimber> Virtual packages like 'google-chrome' can't be removed
[17:27] <nearst> fglrx driver work well on precise, quantal and raring need ppa. mine also broke too. use ppa atm
[17:27] <syntroPi> anonymousraptr, maybe he would want to do something like "sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.*" after he purged it?
[17:27] <xangua> shad0w1e: it is safe to use the kernel provided by oficial ubuntu repositories
[17:28] <shad0w1e> xangua: it's in the official repo however it needs to be manually added to menu.list
[17:28] <nearst> usually safe and stable for each release
[17:28] <xangua> Shadowcat: it is not in the oficial repository of ubuntu 12.04
[17:30] <anonymousraptr> krustyklimber: did you get what syntroPi suggested?  try that "sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.*"
[17:30] <syntroPi> well after he purged it
[17:30] <Krustyklimber> do I need the period and asterisk?
[17:31] <nearst> Krustyklimber, ya. its a wildcard
[17:31] <syntroPi> Krustyklimber, i think you should do the purge first
[17:31] <joshu> nearst with mini.iso I would need to install a GUI, right? I did some googling and came up with lxde, fxce etc...I would then need to add any drivers such as ati fglxr etc
[17:31] <jkyle> is there a hardware referral page somewhere that lists pc's by ubuntu support?
[17:31] <Krustyklimber> I dunno how to purge it... sorry I'm so not good at this
[17:31] <xangua> syntroPi: Krustyklimber i think you should stop trying to fix a non existent problem :)
[17:31] <shad0w1e> xangua: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/security/linux-generic-lts-quantal
[17:31] <anonymousraptr> syntropi: we tried to guide him through the purge but he had trouble with that.
[17:32] <xangua> shad0w1e: that is what is called a third party repository, use it if you want, you are on your own
[17:32] <Krustyklimber> xangua I though that 25 updates failing to update was a problem ;)
[17:32] <ioria> jkyle: you mean hardware supported by ubuntu ?
[17:33] <jkyle> found a certified hardware page, that's a start
[17:33] <nearst> joshu, usually fglrx use jockey or additional hardware feature. if u want to install default desktop manager, just run apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop and choose any from list
[17:33] <bond_> hi, can anybody tell me about 11th  field in /proc/diskstats? The documentation says that it is weighted # of milliseconds spent doing I/Os. Is it like # of milliseconds spent in a second?
[17:33] <ioria> jkyle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[17:33] <OerHeks> shad0w1e, that kernel is in Repository:: main >>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux-meta-lts-quantal/3.5.0.23.30
[17:33] <xangua> Krustyklimber: anonymousraptr the problem is google need to fix his repository, not you
[17:34] <anonymousraptr> Krustyklimber: the error you provided only mentioned chrome. i had no idea you had multiple failures.
[17:34] <xangua> OerHeks: is it in proposed/unsuported or something¿
[17:34] <jkyle> ioria: thanks! I'm particularly looking for a mini-pc format
[17:34] <aartist> what should be the emacspeak server on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[17:34] <jkyle> we thought aobut mac mini's, but not certain how supported they are
[17:34] <nearst> bond_, is I/O your harddisk
[17:34] <Krustyklimber> at first I had 25 that failed, now it's down to just google chrome
[17:34] <alami> i'm back i have remove gflrx and i still have the same Problem
[17:34] <OerHeks> xangua, no, according to the info it is just the regular kernel, AFAIK
[17:34] <bond_> yes nearst
[17:35] <adamk> alami: Pastebin a new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:35] <alami> i can't see the dash and the close minimize button
[17:35] <xangua> OerHeks: last time i heard, precise uses linux 3.2
[17:35] <Krustyklimber> ok I don't use chrome anyways, and I can live with the update manaher telling me chrome won't update
[17:36] <Pici> xangua: kernels are being backported to 12.04 because it is an LTS.  Its a new thing.
[17:36] <syntroPi> anonymousraptr, maybe "sudo apt-get  -f install" could remove some apt errors?
[17:36] <shad0w1e> OerHeks: so it is safe to run that kernel in production? Is that from an official ubuntu repo?
[17:37] <OerHeks> xangua my bad, it is the precise-proposed, so shad0w1e did add a ppa
[17:37] <Krustyklimber> ok... I dunno what we did, but it just updated chrome, y'all are the best... I dunno what I'd do without you... sorry for any frustration I may have caused
[17:37] <fruitFly> I have 230GB free space; How does this sound: 1GB /boot, 4-8 GB swap (I have 4 GB ram I might upgrade), 20GB / and 190GB /home?!
[17:37] <nearst> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[17:37] <Pici> OerHeks: no, its in precise-updates
[17:37] <OerHeks> shad0w1e, i wouldn't recommend a ppa in production
[17:37] <alami> adamk: paste.ubuntu.com/1621566
[17:37] <punky> Can anyone help creating multiboot usb drive including ubuntu?
[17:38] <Pici> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise
[17:38] <bond_> any answer nearst?
[17:38] <bazhang> fruitFly, thats a very generous /boot , but otherwise spot on
[17:38] <syntroPi> punky, if using windows you may want to look at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[17:39] <xangua> punky: i use this http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[17:39] <nearst> bond_, its base on your harddisk activities. maybe its mounts ?
[17:39] <shad0w1e> Mine says its from us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precist-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[17:39] <Krustyklimber> thanks again, I gotta restart... have a great day! :)
[17:40] <alami> adamk: have you get the link
[17:40] <nearst> multibootusb from web8
[17:40] <bond_> nearst: "Field 11 -- weighted # of milliseconds spent doing I/Os" How does harddisk activities make difference on the question I asked?
[17:41] <punky> I used grub4dos and get boot sequence from CD's loopback.cfg, so it boots but missed language selection part, but I need it
[17:41] <xangua> Pici: so i need to enable backport to obtain it, or will eventually be a stable update¿
[17:42] <Pici> xangua: no, its not a backport in that sense. Its in the normal repos.
[17:42] <Pici> xangua: I don't know why they're doing it that way.
[17:43] <anonymousraptr> punky: grub4dos is kind of doing it the hard way compared to unetbootin or the universal usb installer.
[17:43] <nearst> bond_, im not too sure. http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/iostats.txt mention about /etc/fstab
[17:43] <Kion> how do I upgrade to libreoffice 4.0 in Ubuntu?
[17:44] <joshu> ok nearst thanks for your help. i will do some more research and try to wrap my head around how to do what i want. i'll probably be back with more questions ;)
[17:44] <xangua> Kion: go to libreoffice web and download it (remove the current libreoffice before installing it)
[17:45] <nearst> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html
[17:45] <bankofamerica> Hey guys :D
[17:45] <anonymousraptr> xangua: wont using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade do that w/o having to uninstall what kion already has?
[17:45] <Kion> xangua: I thought it was via a ppa, if I do that, will it integrate well with the OS?
[17:46] <johannesbodannes> Hey, I've got an Ubuntu 10.04 server and I'm trying to upgrade my distribution to gain access to some packages that are missing from this distribution's repository. I attempt a do-release-upgrade, and I get a WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[17:46] <bankofamerica> Any tips on using OpenBox? I suck at it.
[17:46] <punky> xangua, syntroPi, thanks for links, will learn
[17:46] <anonymousraptr> xangua: im asking because im not sure myself.
[17:46] <bankofamerica> Any tips on using OpenBox? I suck at it.
[17:46] <johannesbodannes> Then I keep going and I get a bunch of 404 Not Found errors
[17:46] <bazhang> bankofamerica, dont repeat so quickly
[17:47] <bankofamerica> My bad.
[17:47] <Nach0z> johannesbodannes: maybe try -p? >__>
[17:47] <nearst> try with do-release-upgrade -c
[17:47] <Nach0z> no idea lol
[17:47] <bankofamerica> Favorite WMs?
[17:47] <johannesbodannes> OK nearst, I'll do that now
[17:47] <punky> anonymousraptr, can unetbootin boot into hiren's ?
[17:47] <Ferazel> Hi, I'm a Ubuntu newbie, but I have a full /boot partition and I'm trying to clean up some old kernels but I'm getting the following. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1621601/ - Is there another way to cleanup my /boot?
[17:47] <johannesbodannes> nearst: It gives me "New release 'maverick' available."
[17:48] <Kion> xangua: If I install theh .deb from Libreoffice I am afraid that I will never get updates as it did not install from the apt system right?
[17:49] <genii-around> Heh, Maverick ...new?
[17:49] <anonymousraptr> punky: hirens is listed as one of liveboot images it can handle
[17:49] <DaemonicApathy> Ferazel, remove the unused kernels first.
[17:49] <xangua> Kion: you are not getting any new release of libreoffice via apt/oficial repositories anyways
[17:49] <nearst> johannesbodannes, ya. 10.04-lucid, 10.10 is maverick
[17:49] <anonymousraptr> punky: its listed under "other non-linux based sofware"
[17:50] <nearst> unless u wanna jump from 10.04 to 13.04 :D
[17:50] <johannesbodannes> Er, that is quite a significant jump. Is that practical?
[17:50] <nearst> ima do that. from karmic to raring. lol
[17:50] <Kion> xangua: Good point, although we get it every 6 months at least with the new ubuntu versions.
[17:51] <bean> Ferazel: http://www.mariusv.com/boot-is-full/ seems to descrive how to do it
[17:51] <TechSmurf> Hey folks. I currently run all of my routing, dhcp, and dns via one box for a network with ~70 devices. Load is not even a slight issue, but redundancy is... if the box goes down pretty much everything on the network goes with it. Setting up a second failover router is a definite possibility, but is there a preferred way to provide these services using separate boxes or dedicated solutions?
[17:51] <johannesbodannes> The problem I'm facing is that I'm trying to compile certain things on my server that won't compile becaue the libraries ubuntu offers at 10.04 are so lamentably out of date
[17:51] <Agent> Yes!
[17:52] <nearst> it happen. :)
[17:52] <jrib> johannesbodannes: 10.04 was released in 2010
[17:52] <Guest56269> Stop asking me questions
[17:52] <Operator> Hello Govnah!!!!
[17:52] <Guest56269> Operatorfag
[17:52] <Operator> Stinky Bookworm
[17:52] <Guest56269> Shut the fuck up
[17:52] <bond_> hi, can anybody tell me about 11th  field in /proc/diskstats? The documentation says that it is weighted # of milliseconds spent doing I/Os. Is it like # of milliseconds spent in a second?
[17:52] <johannesbodannes> jrib: Yep. But the libraries which I'm trying to use have completely changed since then : (
[17:52] <Operator> go wash off your hate
[17:52] <jrib> johannesbodannes: you shouldn't upgrade to 10.10; if you want to upgrade, upgrade to 12.04
[17:52] <nearst> !language
[17:52] <Guest56269> They see me trollin'
[17:53] <johannesbodannes> jrib: How do I opt to upgrade to 12.04 instead?
[17:53] <Operator> they hatin
[17:53] <bazhang> Operator, stop it
[17:53] <jrib> bazhang: I have to leave, you'll be around?
[17:53] <bazhang> jrib, sure
[17:53] <jrib> bazhang: thanks
[17:53] <jrib> johannesbodannes: check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make sure it's set for Prompt=lts
[17:54] <johannesbodannes> Alright, thanks
[17:54] <johannesbodannes> I'll try that
[17:54] <melty> lol
[17:54] <Ferazel> bean DaemonicApathy - I appreciate it, the dpkg --remove seems to be working.
[17:54] <bean> good good
[17:54] <nearst> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/ubuntu-10-04-12-04-upgrade-how-well-does-it-go
[17:55] <johannesbodannes> jrib: Ah, it wasn't! And now things are working fine? Thank you
[17:56] <pybe> TechSmurf, just seperate the functions and have min 2 dns servers
[17:56] <impulze> when using gstreamer (gst-launch) with lamemp3enc my presets aren't considered, any ideas why?
[17:57] <nihil_2013> I've lost the ability to adjust my screen brightness, probably since a big package update. Running 12.04LTS, was before. Got Xfce, GNOME, KDE, Unity. Tried multiple tools. Any ideas?
[17:57] <TechSmurf> pybe: In my dinky little environment, taking 6u of rack for this isn't a wonderful option ;)
[17:58] <DaemonicApathy> nihil_2013: What is your preferred DE?
[17:58] <pybe> TechSmurf, lol 6u
[17:58] <pybe> TechSmurf, i have 15 servers runninging in 2u
[17:58] <nihil_2013> Xfce4 DaemonicApathy, though I sometimes use Gnome3 these days.
[17:59] <pybe> TechSmurf, use vms
[17:59] <skp1> hi i just installed libreoffice 4.0 from the deb rfiles on the website, but when i start libreoffice i get the odl version, how can i fix this?
[17:59] <TechSmurf> I'm not about to virtualize the routers or dhcp... dns maybe
[17:59] <skp1> *old version
[17:59] <xangua> skp1: did you uninstall libreoffice before installing the new one¿
[17:59] <pybe> TechSmurf, which ever type takes your fancy, personally I like vmware
[18:00] <skp1> xangua: no
[18:00] <TechSmurf> Oh, no, I love vmware, don't get me wrong
[18:00] <Anonymous_> Anonymous
[18:00] <xangua> skp1: well there you have, remove everything and do it again
[18:00] <skp1> xangua: how do i do that?
[18:00] <TechSmurf> but dhcp is one of the first things I want up and running on a cold boot of the rack
[18:00] <TechSmurf> and esxi takes effing forever to boot
[18:00] <xangua> skp1: with the software center, synaptic, apt, however you want
[18:01] <pybe> TechSmurf, you shutdown your servers?
[18:01] <bankofamerica> Anyone here a member of Hackforums?
[18:01] <TechSmurf> pybe: crap happens.
[18:01] <bazhang> !ot | bankofamerica
[18:01] <DaemonicApathy> nihil_2013: I'd suggest installing xbacklight to control the brightness for xfce.
[18:01] <pybe> TechSmurf, like what? a bomb?
[18:01] <skp1> xangua: do i have to remove each package seperately or is there one package i can select that willr emove them all?
[18:01] <TechSmurf> like a thunderstorm knocking our utility power out longer than the UPS can deal with.
[18:02] <fruitFly> bazhang: how large should my boot be then?
[18:02] <pybe> TechSmurf, get a generator
[18:02] <xangua> skp1: you have to remove all
[18:02] <bazhang> fruitFly, 500mb at the most I would say. you could go with one gig if you wish
[18:02] <canihojr> hi
[18:02] <fruitFly> bazhang: what if I want to download a zfs kernel or some other shit, I don't mind being a little liberal*
[18:02] <TechSmurf> pybe: Wish that were an option... but either way this is now a little far removed from my question :)
[18:03] <DaemonicApathy> skp1: sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:03] <canihojr> howto install propietary drivers for nvidia cards? under synaptic?? pls
[18:03] <bazhang> fruitFly, even so, kernels are not much space
[18:03] <xangua> skp1: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html
[18:03] <skp1> xangua: when i try dpkg --remove libre* it tells me to pipe it through more or less, how do i do that?
[18:03] <fruitFly> are all boot home and / logical partitions?
[18:04] <bazhang> canihojr, for what card
[18:04] <pybe> TechSmurf, yeah my bad, put dhcp on any old box just make sure that you have regular backups or a hot spare vm the rest
[18:04] <xangua> DaemonicApathy: you seem like a clean fanatic :)
[18:04] <DaemonicApathy> xangua: copypasta, just didn't bother to edit that out.
[18:04] <canihojr> bazhang, for nvidia gtx 560
[18:04] <TechSmurf> hmm... vm hot spare would be a good option!
[18:04] <bazhang> canihojr, probably nvidia-current then from the software center
[18:05] <canihojr> bazhang, i dont have software center, only synaptic, im using ubuntu gnome remix, and i dont look "hardware drivers".... ty, i try this packet
[18:06] <bazhang> canihojr, should be the same package name
[18:06] <fruitFly> should all boot home and / logical partitions? I have 2 windows primaries now, I am dual booting
[18:06] <pybe> TechSmurf, but def seperate routing, dhcp/dns and have a 2nd dns
[18:07] <llutz> fruitFly: doesn't matter
[18:07] <gray--> is there a way to enable a more verbose logging whilst trying to do a kickstart/preseed build?
[18:07] <gray--> there's either a bug report about sometihing being broken, or a bug report at the end of this
[18:07] <gray--> or a blog
[18:07] <DaemonicApathy> UEFI removed the limit of 4 primary partitions, right?
[18:07] <gray--> to tell everyone that this is the way to do it
[18:08] <llutz> DaemonicApathy: gpt does
[18:08] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ok.
[18:08] <skp1> xangua: could you please look at this?
[18:08] <skp1> http://pastebin.com/2bvjZ3cA
[18:09] <xangua> skp1: did you already read the blog entry on how to install libreoffice4¿
[18:09] <fruitFly> I have 4GB of ram and might upgrade to 8GB is 6GB swap alright or should I go with 8?
[18:09] <skp1> i've already installed it
[18:10] <xangua> (12:03:20) xangua: skp1: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html again
[18:10] <llutz> fruitFly: if you don't want to use hibernation/suspend-to-disk you don't need taht much swap at all
[18:10] <skp1> i will resd it though
[18:10] <cslewis272013> op
[18:10] <beowulf2> anyone know good software for showing the frequency of sound? i want to check my ability to hold a note.
[18:10] <vmachine> If i have 3 public dns servers for my domain. what determines which of the server responds to client queries?
[18:11] <fruitFly> llutz: I do hibernate.. I have 4GB of Ram might upgrade but might not, I was thinking 4-8?
[18:12] <llutz> fruitFly: if you hibernate you need swap >= RAM
[18:12] <fruitFly> I was told I should put / on a primary partition... why? Why not just make everything logical?
[18:12] <skp1> xangua: im getting this output when i try to purge libreoffice
[18:12] <llutz> fruitFly: ask the one who told you. it doesn't matter primary vs logical
[18:12] <skp1> http://pastebin.com/2bvjZ3cA\
[18:13] <Pici> beowulf2: fmit is one.  apt-cache search tune instrument seems to bring up a bunch.
[18:13] <xangua> Once Again skp1 http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html
[18:14] <DaemonicApathy> skp1: The command suggested is "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*"
[18:15] <skp1> DaemonicApathy: http://pastebin.com/2bvjZ3cA
[18:15] <xangua> ...
[18:16] <DaemonicApathy> skp1: I am not blind.
[18:16] <faflatas> Hello - Does anyone know how to change the default sound card with also - without rebooting?
[18:16] <beowulf2> cheers Pici
[18:17] <skp1> when i try to ru libreoffice i get the old version, why is that?
[18:17] <beowulf2> didn't know i could apt-cache search :)
[18:17] <osu> hi guys
[18:17] <osu> can someone tell me how to remove ownership in debian?
[18:17] <bazhang> #debian osu
[18:17] <osu> i did use chown user:group /folder/folder
[18:18] <osu> how to remove this now
[18:18] <DaemonicApathy> Change to a different owner.
[18:18] <Pici> osu: this is #ubuntu, you want #debian
[18:18] <kostkon> faflatas, in ubuntu?
[18:18] <xangua> skp1: because you did not uninstall it and neither are reading the link for the instructions or reading what DaemonicApathy has been told you to fix it for 10 minutes
[18:18] <llutz> osu: chown otheruser:othergroup folder
[18:18] <osu> ubuntu is based on debian and i use ubuntu
[18:18] <osu> :)
[18:18] <kostkon> !debian | osu
[18:18] <kostkon> :/
[18:19] <osu> hmm change owner
[18:19] <osu> ok got it thnx
[18:19] <kostkon> osu, this is an ubuntu only support channel
[18:19] <osu> yes and i use ubuntu :)
[18:19] <llutz> osu: you cannot "remove owner/group" all files have to have an owner/group
[18:19] <gray--> are there any other more specialised #ubuntu channels?
[18:20] <DaemonicApathy> gray--: Such as?
[18:20] <fruitFly> Someone told me / should be a primary partition? WHY?! is that necessary? I have 2 primary windows already?
[18:20] <llutz> fruitFly: ask the one who told you. it doesn't matter primary vs logical
[18:20] <disharmonic> hey
[18:20] <skp1> xangua: synaptic says the old versions are all uninstalled
[18:20] <osu> yea i got it how to do it thanks again
[18:20] <DaemonicApathy> fruitFly: It can be either Primary or Extended. Extended wouldn't make sense.
[18:20] <Pici> gray--: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[18:20] <faflatas> kostkon : lubuntu - alsa
[18:20] <gray--> DaemonicApathy: i have an issue which no-one seems to be able to comment on.  i mean, there's no obligation to help of course, just a bit frustrated having spent about 10 hours on this issue :)
[18:20] <kostkon> faflatas, :|
[18:21] <disharmonic> Is there a way to force apt to replace all packages from a PPA with versions in my current repos even if it thinks the versions from the removed ppa are newer?
[18:21] <gray--> Pici: thank you
[18:21] <xangua> disharmonic: you want to remove a ppa and the packages provided¿
[18:22] <gray--> DaemonicApathy: (and wondering if there's another place that i might be able to throw my problem at)
[18:22] <disharmonic> xangua, yes
[18:23] <DaemonicApathy> gray--: I didn't notice you were already asking about your issue. I know literally nothing about kickstart/preseed builds...
[18:23] <xangua> !ppa-purge | disharmonic
[18:23] <fruitFly> DaemonicApathy: llutz can you only have 1 extended? I have 2 primaries so does that mean I should create a a primary root and make the rest of the space extended and make the rest logical partitions inside of that?
[18:23] <gray--> DaemonicApathy: no probs, thanks anyhow, it seems to be documented in a fairly poor way.  I've never contributed back, perhaps this is a subject i can get involved in
[18:23] <llutz> fruitFly: 1 extended (special kind of primary) which can hold lots of logical drives
[18:24] <disharmonic> xangua, cheers
[18:24] <gray--> DaemonicApathy: (once my problem is solved, that is)
[18:25] <llutz> fruitFly:  just go and create logical drives for all linux-partitions, it doesn't matter, linux doesn't care about primary/logical.
[18:26] <fruitFly> llutz: can I create an extended and still leave free space?
[18:26] <djmitche> in something like http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pst9rYL2cQI/TblLGS_ja3I/AAAAAAAAAyI/BJznH2Rxi_U/s1600/Screenshot-4.png , what is the name for the icon area on the left and the menus on top?
[18:26] <misterswag> ubuntu 12.04; is it ok to stop mysql, move database to drive with more space, ln -s /var/lib/mysql target and start up db again?
[18:26] <djmitche> they're not appearing for me, and I'm trying to google for why :/
[18:26] <llutz> fruitFly: yu can but its not recommended to do.
[18:27] <DaemonicApathy> djmitche: The launcher panel and app panel, respectively.
[18:27] <skp1> what's the syntax for piping the output of dpkg --remove libreoffice* through less or more?
[18:27] <djmitche> thanks!
[18:27] <belgianguy> where are the Unity launcher icons located?
[18:27] <fruitFly> llutz: why?
[18:27] <belgianguy> or where are they defined?
[18:28] <llutz> fruitFly: if you later create a primary in the free space (you cannot create a 2nd extended there), some systems might be confused because partitions are nicht in the right order (secter->partition.nr)
[18:28] <llutz> are not*
[18:28] <Nedz> can anyone help with a system not booting up properly ?
[18:29] <mib_mib> hey guys - how do i check the ports that are currently being used on my computer?
[18:29] <llutz> fruitFly: and it makes no sense not to use the full diskspace for an extended
[18:29] <Pici> mib_mib: netstat -tan
[18:29] <DaemonicApathy> belgianguy: Iirc, they are normally in /usr/share/applications
[18:29] <belgianguy> ah, thanks DaemonicApathy !
[18:30] <Nedz> can anyone help with a system not booting up properly ? (Willing to pay for support)
[18:30] <fruitFly> llutz: I have 230GB free space and 2 primary windows partitions... make 1 extended with the rest but should I leave space withing the extended incase I want to do something else... what could I do?
[18:30] <DaemonicApathy> Nedz, please provide more details.
[18:30] <Nedz> I have an Ubuntu 12.04 on a XenCenter
[18:31] <Nedz> it's booting up
[18:31] <Nedz> but when it does
[18:31] <Nedz> sometimes it checks for errors
[18:31] <Nedz> on the drive
[18:31] <skp1> what's the syntax for piping the output of dpkg --remove libreoffice* through less or more?
[18:31] <Pici> !enter
[18:31] <DaemonicApathy> Put as much as you can on one line please, Nedz.
[18:31] <llutz> fruitFly:  just create the extended with logical drives for all linux-partitions, you don't need to use the full exteded-space, just leave some empty for future-use
[18:31] <fruitFly> llutz: i only have 230gb... wut could I do if I left maybe 30GB?
[18:32] <Nedz> and then it won't start up. so I would have to restart a couple of times. after a few restarts I will get the proper gui desktop
[18:32] <DaemonicApathy> Anyway Nedz, you should be able to skip a disk check if you believe it's alright.
[18:32] <llutz> fruitFly: i don't know your usage, why do you think you'll need some free space at all?
[18:32] <fruitFly> llutz: maybe if I wanna install a diff distro?
[18:32] <Nedz> yes, I tried that as well , but the thing is . it will do it all over again the next time I will restart the computer.
[18:32] <_raven_> hi
[18:32] <_raven_> do you know about any commandline mastering tool which is able to receive and transmit streams from/to an icecast server?
[18:32] <fruitFly> llutz: I guess i dnt need free space then
[18:33] <llutz> fruitFly: then keep some space in reserve
[18:33] <Nedz> sometimes will just boot into shell. and then I'll have to restart a couple of times to get the gui.
[18:33] <DaemonicApathy> Nedz, you can use this thread to check what frequency your fsck is set to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300477
[18:34] <fruitFly> llutz: can i seriously use another distro with 30GB? can I point it to my /home etc? I dnt have that much space and am trying to get an idea if it makes sense to elave any at all... I'm thinking not]
[18:34] <Nedz> no. it tries to boot and then it says it cannot mount /tmp so I wait but nothing happens.
[18:34] <syntroPi> Nedz, what does "ls -l /forcefsck"  produce
[18:34] <disharmonic> does the x-updates ppa have s3tc and floating point textures enabled or do i need edgers for that?
[18:34] <Nedz> only reboot until it actually works solves this.
[18:35] <syntroPi> Nedz maybe check for messages in "dmesg"?
[18:36] <ioria> Nedz: you wait... how much ?
[18:36] <llutz> fruitFly: it may be handy to have a spare 25-30GB partition for upgrade-installations/backup or testing purposes, but if you don't have the space or aren't sure about what you really want... just forget it
[18:36] <belgianguy> argh, LibreOffice 4.0 now has different icons in the Dash than in the Launcher
[18:37] <belgianguy> the Dash ones are the newer ones, I'd like to have those in the launcher as well, what files would I need to edit?
[18:37] <xangua> belgianguy: did you remove the previous libreoffice before installing 4¿ did you restart your user session¿
[18:37] <fruitFly> llutz: upgrade like upgrading the distro?
[18:38] <fruitFly> llutz: when there is a new release?
[18:38] <belgianguy> xangua: I did remove it, but I don't think I logged off yet
[18:38] <llutz> fruitFly: parallel installation of a new version before you might break your existing install
[18:39] <xangua> belgianguy: or jsut remove the icons from the launcher, open the dash and drag the launchers from there
[18:39] <fruitFly> llutz: what do you mean by upgrade, parallel install? creating a new /boot?
[18:40] <fruitFly> llutz: I'm a noob
[18:40] <Crunchcat> One question: On Xfce, where should I add the "setxkblayout -option compose:menu" line?
[18:40] <fr0stbyt3> what is good tutorial to learn the command line?
[18:40] <Crunchcat> I tried adding it on the .xinit and it doesn't work.
[18:41] <Crunchcat> *setxkbmap
[18:41] <belgianguy> xangua: the dragging works, but the icon changes to the old version :/
[18:41] <llutz> fruitFly: tbh, just install your stuff and get some experience. let  some 30GB free inside the extended, maybe you use it some day.
[18:42] <xangua> belgianguy: no idea then, sorry
[18:42] <disharmonic> does the x-updates ppa have s3tc and floating point textures enabled for Intel GPUs or do i need edgers for that?
[18:42] <skp1> how do i pipe the output of dplg --remove through more or less?
[18:43] <fruitFly> llutz: so... 1GB /boot 8GB swap 20GB / and 190GB /home........all logicals in my extended
[18:43] <fruitFly> llutz: ?
[18:43] <llutz> fruitFly: you don't need a /boot
[18:44] <fruitFly> llutz: can't it be useful for somethings as well? how cold it hurt to make a /boot?
[18:44] <syntroPi> skp1, maybe something similar to  "dpkg --remove WhatEva 2>&1 | grep whateva"
[18:45] <Nedz> here is the dmesg
[18:45] <llutz> fruitFly: it doesn't hurt, it just has no benefits in most cases
[18:45] <Nedz> http://pastebin.com/xZuJaw0z
[18:45] <llutz> fruitFly: why do you think its usefull for you?
[18:45] <sfan5> is it possible to boot the ubuntu 12.04 installer with an option to disable nouveau
[18:46] <fruitFly> llutz: in case i wanna install a custom kernel... idk... maybe it could come in handy?
[18:46] <llutz> fruitFly: no need for sep /boot just for custom kernel
[18:47] <skp1> is there anyway to remopve multiple packages with dpkg without specifying each package?
[18:47] <llutz> fruitFly: don't make too complex, keep it simple, get fun
[18:48] <syntroPi> Nedz, something aroind 3.67 is causing problems "EXT4-fs (xvdb1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem"
[18:48] <fruitFly> llutz: so r u saying NO NEED for a /boot.... NONE?!... NOT USEFUL AT ALL?!?!?!
[18:48] <llutz> fruitFly: no
[18:48] <llutz> fruitFly: i said: it just has no benefits in most cases
[18:48] <llutz> fruitFly: and stop caps
[18:48] <fruitFly> ok so add the boot to /home?
[18:48] <fruitFly> llutz: ?
[18:48] <raptr> what is a good way to test my nvidia drivers are installed correctly?
[18:48] <llutz> whatever
[18:49] <kostkon> raptr, in terminal:  glxinfo | grep vendor
[18:49] <fruitFly> llutz: how do I make an extended?
[18:49] <Nedz> ok
[18:50] <ioria> fruitFly: you stretch it
[18:50] <syntroPi> Nedz, seems to be from previous restart then it says "[    3.704273] EXT4-fs (xvdb1): recovery complete"
[18:50] <kostkon> raptr, or in your system preferences, select the about the system option
[18:50] <llutz> fruitFly: gparted
[18:51] <syntroPi> Nedz, whats the content of /etc/fstab ?
[18:51] <raptr> ksotkon: i was thinking more in the line of a benchmark utility.
[18:52] <disharmonic> Would you guys consider the x-edgers ppa suitable for daily use?
[18:53] <raptr> i should have asked is there a good benchmark app to test my nvidia drivers?
[18:54] <fruitFly> llutz: ioria so 8GB swap... is 20GB / big enough?! and and 172GB /home?
[18:54] <skp1> im having some trouble installing libreoffice 4.0, i forgot to remove the old libreoffice first, i just installed all the .debs that come off the website, now whe i try to purge libreoffice* like instructed on the websitre i get this output http://pastebin.com/9pU7FA1g
[18:54] <kostkon> raptr, the simplest of all is the glxgears. you could see how many fps you are getting there.
[18:55] <Nedz> syntroPi - http://pastebin.com/Fuu769b0
[18:55] <raptr> kostkon: i found a partial answer with "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p"
[18:55] <ioria> fruitFly: i have dual boot on 40G with 700 mb and 1g swap
[18:55] <llutz> fruitFly: i'd use 25.34567GB / and 175.92038GB /home :)  it is up to you, seems fine
[18:56] <sfan5> is it possible to disable certain kernel modules in the kernel args
[18:57] <llutz> sfan5: blacklist the module if you don't want it being loaded
[18:57] <syntroPi> Nedz, hmm is that xvdb1 and sda1 the same disk "UUID=ee750728-cd9b-4b8a-b895-6174a5c310f7"? seems to be like that
[18:57] <sfan5> llutz: i need to boot the ubuntu live-cd without using nouveau..
[18:58] <fruitFly> llutz: I wanna hibernate so... 4GB swap... 26GB / and 170GB home?
[18:59] <syntroPi> Nedz, and maybe you want to add something like "allow_other,_netdev" to your smb mount. But thats not cause of your problem which i cant find there so far...?
[18:59] <fruitFly> I wanna hibernate so... 4GB swap... 26GB / and 170GB home? llutz
[18:59] <llutz> sfan5: not sure, try "nouveau.blacklist=1"
[19:00] <Nedz> syntroPi - it's a XenServer. so the disks are from a repository.
[19:00] <Nedz> syntroPi- I can comment out the smb to ruleout it causes problems . this started after an upgrade from a previous version. it worked just fine before.
[19:00] <syntroPi> Nedz, since your /tmp has no extra mount it lives on root disk i think. /tmp will be cleared at bootup everytime.
[19:01] <sfan5> llutz: that seems to work, thank you
[19:01] <syntroPi> Nedz, i dont think its causing problems here, just saw it trying to mount before it can connect in the dmesg therefore the "_netdev"
[19:02] <pat> xrdp issues - Need to be able to login to host from same lan (Win7 => 12.10) when the host has not auto logged in. Using win7 rdp.
[19:02] <fruitFly> llutz: I wanna hibernate so... 4GB swap... 26GB / and 170GB home?
[19:02] <llutz> fruitFly: you already got all info you need, decide yourself
[19:02] <skp1> im having some trouble installing libreoffice 4.0, i forgot to remove the old libreoffice first, i just installed all the .debs that come off the website, now whe i try to purge libreoffice* like instructed on the websitre i get this output http://pastebin.com/9pU7FA1g
[19:03] <fruitFly> llutz: thanks
[19:03] <syntroPi> Nedz, i suspect something else is causing your problems, but unfortunately i dont know what that could be
[19:04] <Nedz> syntroPi - :( thank you so much for trying
[19:05] <syntroPi> Nedz, maybe has something to do with [    0.000000] You might have to change the root device from /dev/hd[a-d] to /dev/xvd[a-d] in your root= kernel command line option
[19:05] <Nedz> syntroPi - how do i do that ?
[19:06] <syntroPi> Nedz, you can see what the command line is with "cat /proc/cmdline "
[19:06] <syntroPi> its the line grub invokes the kernel with
[19:06] <Willdude123> How can I get subdirectories up 1 level?
[19:07] <Nedz> syntroPi - returns : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-37-generic root=UUID=ee750728-cd9b-4b8a-b895-6174a5c310f7 ro quiet splash
[19:07] <Willdude123> Like if I had /home/sdgfd/ASDf.zip and wanted to move it to /home/ASDf.zip
[19:07] <syntroPi> Nedz, ok looks good i think
[19:08] <syntroPi> Nedz, it uses UUID to prevent that problem the dmesg hint was pointing to
[19:08] <syntroPi> hmmm
[19:09] <Nedz> syntroPi I'll restart
[19:09] <Nedz> syntroPi and tell you what it says.
[19:09] <syntroPi> good luck
[19:11] <alexalex> anybody here?
[19:12] <pat> Bump - xrdp issues - Need to be able to login to host from same lan (Win7 => 12.10) when the host has not auto logged in. Using win7 rdp.
[19:12] <Nedz> syntroPi - loads into shell right now . and then says "failed to add entry for user gs2." copyright info and then you have one mail.
[19:12] <Nedz> syntroPi I'll try to reboot again I suppose :(
[19:13] <ello_govna> Just saw a headline about some guy living with MS and I totally commiserated with his pain until I realized they weren't talking about Microsoft...
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> hello guys. Is the NVIDIA driver version 173 older or newer than the version current?
[19:14] <syntroPi> Nedz, hum did you change anything before reboot?
[19:14] <Nedz> only the smb
[19:15] <syntroPi> Nedz, i suspect your ext4 root partition has some errors it cant fix online (while running from it).  http://pastebin.com/PKN8n5KE
[19:17] <chrisan> could someone kick me in the right direction with my xorg conf? all of my bars are stacked: http://i.imgur.com/u4AvdBu.jpg  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1621882/
[19:17] <syntroPi> but fortunately i never had to fix ext4 so unfortunately i dont know exactly how to do that. but i would try to boot from exact same version "uname -a" boot medium (usb or cd/iso) and try to fix the ext4 and recheck it offline from there
[19:17] <Nedz> syntroPi - ok what would be the best way to fix those. load an external livecd?
[19:18] <syntroPi> Nedz, yes but i dont know how exactly, maybe someone who did that could give you better help?
[19:20] <Nedz> syntroPi - very well. once again. thanks alot. I'll try my luck later maybe someone else would be able to sort it out.
[19:20] <syntroPi> Nedz, there is something going wrong with this "[   30.894810] blkfront: barrier: empty write xvdb op failed" and "[   30.894815] blkfront: xvdb: barrier or flush: disabled" therefore it remounts ro
[19:21] <syntroPi> maybe even xen and the block device config? idk...
[19:21] <Nedz> syntroPi - http://lzone.de/blkfront+barrier+empty+write+xvda+op+failed whats this
[19:22] <syntroPi> Nedz, maybe " reboot until you get a writable filesystem and add "barrier=0" to the mount options of all your local filesystems." would help
[19:23] <Nedz> syntroPi - i add it in the fstab ?
[19:23] <cesar_>  oolaa quien eres?
[19:24] <Guest38729> ola
[19:24] <pat> BUMP - xrdp issues - Need to be able to login to host from same lan (Win7 => 12.10) when the host has not auto logged in. Using win7 rdp.
[19:24] <Guest38729> hello
[19:25] <syntroPi> Nedz,  you would add this in /etc/default/grub file GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and do "sudo update-grub" to update your boot config. but be _CAREFULL_ with those changes and read about them so you know what you are doing
[19:25] <Guest38729> como funciona esto???? -_-
[19:25] <syntroPi> Nedz, oop sorry
[19:25] <syntroPi> Nedz, my wrong yes in fstab
[19:26] <Guest38729> if you tead this,please answer me
[19:26] <syntroPi> Nedz, forget about the grub thing
[19:26] <syntroPi> Guest38729, check
[19:29] <syntroPi> Nedz, but when adding this you cant use the extra security regarding fs consistency coming from write barriers (afaik make sure "atomic" write ops are actually commited to hw until next begin)
[19:31] <Wug> what does the iso-scan/filename kernel option do? where is it documented?
[19:31] <Resisty> Hello, I'm having some problems with a user calling adpasswd and getting permissions errors for his own account. Has anybody seen this kind of thing before or know which channel would be more appropriate for this question?
[19:33] <Wug> Resisty: is that the active directory password changer thing?
[19:33] <Resisty> Wug: yep, came with centrifydc
[19:33] <Resisty> Googling the "error" doesn't really come up with anything and there's no #centrify channel. :/
[19:39] <jhutchins_wk>  Resisty http://centrify.com
[19:41] <Super_Dog> Anybody getting this Huge ".xsession-errors.old" log filling up their hard drive?
[19:42] <jhutchins_wk> Super_Dog: Yup, lots of people.
[19:42] <Super_Dog> See a lot of stuff on this.  What's the best fix if you wish to opine?
[19:42] <Guest99164> yoloswag
[19:43] <Guest99164> i apologize
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> Super_Dog: There's been discussion of limiting the size of the file.  As long as you're not in danger of filling up your disk in a single day you could always manage it with logrotate, but it seems obvious to me that the solution is to fix whatever is generating the errors.
[19:45] <Super_Dog> I have filled up the 80GB partition quickly with this error a number of times already...  Very annoying...
[19:45] <Super_Dog> Literally have a 10GB Ubuntu install and this file swells up to 80GB in no time...
[19:48] <kbee> can someone help me remap a single key on my keyboard please? I found the community howto but its incredibly complicated ... does it really have to be??
[19:50] <Super_Dog> man... I've never even bothered looking at this .xsession-errors file before.  Is all this stuff really serious or just normal ubuntu behavior?
[19:51] <LanaMayla> well what do you mean by serious?
[19:52] <nibbler> i'm running digikam in gnome, but my tooltips are in white letters on light blue background. i followed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299607 but whatever i do in "settingsmanager" does not take any effect. in gnome i can not change much of the appearance. but if i switch from the default theme to high-contrast and back, its fixed. untill i restart digikam. any hints?
[19:52] <ioria> kbee: maybe you need extra packages
[19:52] <kbee> ioria: is there a program for this sort of thing?
[19:53] <ioria> kbee: i don't know your specific problem, but usually you need xev and xmodmap
[19:53] <syoutsey> is it possible to 'cat' a file with no newline at the end?
[19:53] <Super_Dog> Well.  I'd have to let you see the file I guess.   I'm IRC'ing from this machine so it's not a terminal situation what I see in the .xsession-errors file I guess..
[19:55] <skp1> is there any way to remove multiple packages with dpkg without specifying each package?
[19:55] <fidel> skp1: i doubt that - based on what rule should that work?
[19:56] <skp1> fidel: wiukdcards
[19:56] <kbee> ioria: thanks, Ill look into xmodmap, it was mentioned in some forum post too. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions is crazy complex!
[19:56] <skp1> wildcards
[19:56] <fidel> skp1: apt eats wildcards
[19:56] <LanaMayla> for being efficient, I like to see what is consistently throwing errors
[19:56] <skp1> fidel: i knwo but apt isnt working
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> skp1: That only works if the packages are related by name, to some extent.
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> skp1: so why aren't we fixing apt?
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> hello, I have a Pc game pad with usb plug, it's apparently not recognized by Lubuntu - how can I check what's wrong (it didn't come with Linux drivers)?
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> It's a Saitek rumble pad 480
[19:57] <fidel> skp1: i would focusing on fixing apt first too - if possible
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> skp1: What's wrong with apt?
[19:58] <skp1> OMG weird, it;s working now. musta been the devil hehe.
[19:58] <ioria> kbee: try this, it looks less complex : http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys
[19:59] <skp1> fidel: SonikkuAmerica jhutchins_wk nm
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> skp1: Leaves me wondering what the problem was. Probably the dpkg handle was locked.
[19:59] <skp1> -shrug-
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> bennypr0fane: This thread might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928293
[20:02] <kbee> ioria: single command to remap a key, brilliant! thanks!!
[20:03] <ioria> kbee: you're wellcome
[20:05] <jiffe98> any idea why I am seeing files such as '-????????? ? ?   ?          ?            ? 29Fcci09k69HxlMGEdGJSWYjS2Taj7xl' even after I fsck the filesystem?
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: What filesystem?
[20:05] <Bilge> Is there somewhere to see which version of Debian each version of Ubuntu is based off?
[20:05] <jiffe98> jhutchins_wk: ext4
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> jiffe98: Did you _repair_ the filesystem or just check it?
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> Bilge: I don't think it's a 1:1 relationship.
[20:06] <vlj> hi
[20:07] <vlj> does ubuntu 12.04 ships with a 1.12 xorg ?
[20:08] <jiffe98> jhutchins_wk: fsck -y good enough?  it shows a number of things fixed
[20:10] <skp1> can someone help me? i've just installed libreoffice 4.0 using dpkg but it doesnt show up in the dash..
[20:10] <skp1> can soeone help me?
[20:11] <MrSaku> Whats difference between nigger and barrel of shit? its the barrel hhaahaha@!
[20:14] <devestator> im also getting this error on the cl ~$ The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:14] <devestator> sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common
[20:15] <s3r3n1t7> When im doing apt-get update, the downloads go real quick. However, the Reading package lists step is slower than a bull without legs. Is there a fix around anyone would like to share? :)
[20:15] <jiffe98> if I run fsck twice in a row, the second time it shows no problems, but if I mount the filesystem and ls -la that directory again and then umount and fsck again it finds errors
[20:19] <Peyam> hi
[20:19] <Peyam> How do I expand the backround wallpaper to dual monitor
[20:20] <lfreeway> clear
[20:20] <TheSov> god i really have to get rid of this 7.x box
[20:20] <delinquentme> im wanting to search my entire system for a file called mod_passenger.so ... howdo?
[20:20] <delinquentme> locate isn't working .. and I'm derping with find ... better option?
[20:21] <lfreeway> hellow, does anyone has a how-to fix byobu's keys under 12.04?
[20:21] <TheSov> find -name "mod_passenger.so"
[20:21] <TheSov> ?
[20:21] <c[_]> can someone help me? i've installed libreoffice 4.0 but it doesnt show up in the dash
[20:30] <xomrk> hi how to get position x y to conky . i want put conky in specifict place
[20:34] <flintser> yes
[20:34] <waksman> can i ask a question please
[20:34] <flintser> bye
[20:35] <silvereye> yes, you may
[20:35] <DaemonicApathy> Good question.
[20:36] <llutz> xomrk: http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html   see "alignment, gap_x, gap_y"
[20:38] <silvereye> so what was the question you would like to ask
[20:39] <xomrk> ok but chow i chceck where on screen is example 150 630
[20:41] <WolfpupL> i need a little help with a regex line
[20:43] <silvereye> WolfpupL : please explain?
[20:43] <WolfpupL> this command echo "[Hatsuyuki-Hadena]_Ao_no_Exorcist_-_24_[1280x720][3AFA2BF9].mkv" | sed "s/^\[[^]]*\][_ ]\([^[]*\)[ _].*$/\1/"
[20:44] <WolfpupL> gives me -> Ao_no_Exorcist_-_24
[20:44] <WolfpupL> while i want [Hatsuyuki-Hadena]_Ao_no_Exorcist_-_24_ instead
[20:45] <jiffe98> \1 is giving you what you have inside the parentheses
[20:46] <WolfpupL> i want to remove this part of the file name only -> [1280x720][3AFA2BF9].mkv
[20:46] <ninny> Hey all, just installed ubuntu core on a little headless server. Quick question. Is it wise for me to setup a normal user now to run everything off (with sudo) and avoid root access?
[20:47] <silvereye> WolfpupL : maybe if you put [Hatsuyuki-Hadena] inside something else besides square brackets?
[20:47] <angs> how can I convert a rpm file to deb by using alien?
[20:47] <WolfpupL> files come that way as that is a subgroups name
[20:48] <silvereye> WolfpupL : the square brackets appear to be what is getting it cut
[20:48] <jiffe98> sed "s/^\(\[[^]]*\][_ ][^[]*[ _]\).*$/\1/"
[20:48] <jiffe98> you just need to move the \(\)
[20:48] <fidel> ninny: there is nothing wrong on that idea ;)
[20:49] <ninny> thanks fidel, just wondering if that is the right (read safest) thing to do.
[20:49] <ninny> I mean it's just going to sit there, no user access
[20:49] <tim__> Anyone have any ideas - I have a wireless music player that cuts in and out when I have the wireless card in my laptop enabled?  I've tried changing channels on the router but no help.
[20:49] <ninny> so I'm fine with root (with password)
[20:50] <silvereye> tom__ don't they have wireless cards that operate on completely different bands?
[20:50] <silvereye> tim__ don't they have wireless cards that operate on completely different bands?
[20:53] <tim__> silvereye - I have no idea.  It started all of a sudden.  Had never been a problem.  One day I came in and the laptop could identify my network but not connect.  I assigned it a static IP address and it connected but now it interferes with the music player which also connects wirelessly.
[20:54] <silvereye> tim__ : is the music player getting a static address too, or is it getting dhcp?, there might be a conflict
[20:54] <tim__> I tried assigning it a static channel yesterday but it didn't seem to help.
[20:55] <tim__> silvereye - 192.168.2.25 is the music player   192.168.2.88 is the laptop.
[20:55] <silvereye> I don't know. It might be simpler to set it back to the way it was so that the music player is ok, and then fix the wifi situation
[20:56] <daftykins> tim__: is the wireless music player, playing music from your laptop?
[20:57] <tim__> daftykins - no it's designed to connect wirelessly to my router and play Pandora or other internet stations.
[20:57] <daftykins> oh right
[20:57] <daftykins> tim__: do you know whether the laptop and player are both 802.11g or n or?
[20:57] <tim__> the laptop is N the music player is G
[20:58] <silvereye> tim__ is your wireless router able to do both bands at the same time?
[20:58] <tim__> silvereye - yes
[20:59] <tim__> They both worked perfectly for a year until Monday.
[20:59] <jhutchins_wk> tim__: flaky router
[20:59] <ninny> I have no text editor installed on ubuntu core
[20:59] <ninny> no nano
[20:59] <ninny> no vi
[20:59] <ninny> etc
[20:59] <tim__> Jhutchins_wk - Maybe.  I could try a factory reset on the router.
[20:59] <FloodBot1> ninny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:59] <ninny> anyway of removing a line of a text file?
[21:00] <silvereye> tim__ have any of your nearby neighbors gotten themselves a wifi router?
[21:00] <tim__> I've tried power cycling the router but it didn't help
[21:00] <s3r3n1t7> ninny, you could head the file for length of file - 1, pipe to temp file, then replace?
[21:00] <tim__> silvereye - could be I don't see any new networks when I scan though.
[21:01] <ninny> let me look into it
[21:01] <ninny> it's the 4th line
[21:01] <silvereye> maybe a router reset will fix things, or just changing a obscure setting in it
[21:01] <ninny> is there no way of just removing that line?
[21:01] <ninny> or is there another text editor that might be installed in ubuntu core?
[21:02] <s3r3n1t7> ninny, you could install every text editor you like ... apt should be there
[21:02] <silvereye> ninny : which editor are you using?
[21:02] <tim__> silvereye - I was on chat with Belkin for over an hour.  The last suggestion was the reset but I haven't tried it yet.
[21:02] <ninny> none
[21:02] <krabador> how can i watch silverlight stuff on ubuntu???
[21:02] <krabador> :)
[21:02] <ninny> I'm trying to get apt-get setup as we speak
[21:02] <ninny> the first thing I'll do is install nano :)
[21:02] <ninny> and ping..
[21:02] <ninny> but I can't until I get this sorted
[21:02] <acovrig> I have a large file I don't want to download again, however, the md5 sums don't match, is there any way to have sftp fix the file (I have the original on a sftp server)?
[21:02] <s3r3n1t7> ninny, download the .deb and install by hand? probably tons easier ...
[21:02] <s3r3n1t7> wget is there yeh?
[21:02] <ninny> hmmm
[21:02] <silvereye> emacs is also good, for a full featured editor
[21:03] <ninny> no wget
[21:03] <tim__> oh well.  Thanks for the thoughts all.
[21:03] <ninny> one sec I'm going to make a new file
[21:03] <s3r3n1t7> ninny, links? (the text browser)
[21:03] <krabador> i installed moonlight, on the mono website, and mono-complete on ubuntu 13.04, later i installed "microsoft codecs" on "properties if moonlight plugin on the website
[21:03] <krabador> but nothing
[21:04] <escott_> krabador, what silverlight stuff do you want to watch
[21:04] <krabador> escott, http://www.serviziopubblico.it/live
[21:05] <BluesKaj> krabador, netflix?
[21:05] <escott_> krabador, thats not going to mean much to me. what i am getting at is that many places use silverlight to use the silverlight drm in which case it just wont work with moonlight
[21:05] <krabador> BluesKaj, not, it's a tv program
[21:06] <krabador> escott, tell me only if you can watch it , or you too are with blank screen
[21:06] <genii-around> !pastebin > john__
[21:06] <escott_> krabador, i dont have mono installed on this system
[21:07] <krabador> escott, ok, thanx the same
[21:07] <escott_> krabador, i tried it once to watch the boston marathon... flash would have been an improvement
[21:07] <BluesKaj> krabador, escott's post is right , moonlight doesn't work in place of slverlight
[21:07] <escott_> which isn't a criticism of mono itself but of whatever junk MSFT gave the BAA to try and serve the content
[21:07] <krabador> BluesKaj, ok, but in the site, clicking on silverlight pic, i linked on moonlight
[21:08] <nanashiRei> Hi, i'm currently configuring an old Notebook of mine to pose as portable Desktop and Development environment. Now i wonder, this machine is pretty slow (2x 1.7 GHz), can i shutdown the graphical user interface temporarily?
[21:08] <nanashiRei> I have ssh and sudo all setup
[21:08] <escott_> nanashiRei, sudo service lightdm stop
[21:08] <nanashiRei> let's see
[21:08] <coolpro2121> How do access command line in Empathy?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> krabador, no matter
[21:09] <escott_> coolpro2121, empathy is not a terminal emulator
[21:09] <krabador> BluesKaj, ok, then for drm silverlight, no hope on linux?
[21:10] <coolpro2121> escott_, how do I get to use commands for NickServ?
[21:10] <nanashiRei> escott_: perfect. thanks a lot.
[21:10] <escott_> krabador, none. all the algorithms are there, but none of the keys
[21:10] <BluesKaj> krabador, unfortunately not
[21:10] <silvereye> nanashiRei; a duel core 1.7 ghz isn't really so slow you can't use a gui. maybe if you switched to a lighter-weight window manager like xfce (making it xubuntu)?
[21:10] <woo> coolpro2121: /msg NickServ help
[21:10] <krabador> escott, BluesKaj , great :)
[21:10] <coolpro2121> woo: where? where do I find the window to enter commans on Empathy?
[21:10] <escott_> coolpro2121, you just /msg NickServ whatever
[21:10] <krabador> escott, BluesKaj , really thanx
[21:11] <woo> coolpro2121: im using irssi
[21:11] <coolpro2121> escott_ where is the window?
[21:11] <woo> coolpro2121: its a private message to NickServ then just type help
[21:11] <BluesKaj> krabador, unless you can find a version of the show posted on  website that will play in flash
[21:11] <coolpro2121> woo: where is the window of NickServ?
[21:11] <woo> coolpro2121: idk i use crtl+->
[21:12] <BluesKaj> the server textbox , woo
[21:12] <labsin> krabador: there is a package with a custon firefox for windows version that runs in wine that can acces netfix etc on ubuntu
[21:12] <krabador> labsin, interesting...
[21:12] <krabador> labsin, tell me more
[21:13] <labsin> Is it a specific site or just silverlight?
[21:13] <labsin> you have this: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html
[21:14] <ShapeShifter499> Hi
[21:15] <ShapeShifter499> How do I have a service run after boot?  I tried putting it in rc.local but that didn't seem to work
[21:15] <silvereye> ShapeShifter499 : you could try putting it in inetd.conf
[21:16] <silvereye> if it's a net service
[21:16] <ShapeShifter499> silvereye: also in etc?
[21:16] <silvereye> yes
[21:16] <melty> lol
[21:17] <ShapeShifter499> silvereye: it's called iodine, the service is named iodine, ip-over-dns
[21:17] <ShapeShifter499> Service is iodined
[21:18] <silvereye> ok, as long as it's a net service, inetd may be able to start it
[21:18] <sidney_> If I reinstall without formatting my home partition are my programs left intact?
[21:18] <ShapeShifter499> Hmm I'll try that and reboot
[21:19] <xangua> sidney_: unless your home is in a separate partition, no
[21:19] <xangua> sidney_: ooh programs, defenively no
[21:19] <xangua> sidney_: if you mean configuration, and have a partition for home, configuration is left
[21:20] <t4b> sidney_, but you can generate a list of installed programs and reinstall all of them from that list. Search in Synaptic.
[21:20] <sidney_> I tried the nomodset boot option but still get a black screen
[21:22] <grendal-prime> hey is there anyway to disable the unity appmenu.
[21:22] <sidney_> t4b the system is non bootable at present
[21:22] <grendal-prime> its making my older customers crazy...well crazyer
[21:23] <sidney_> t4b I was thinking of installing 12.04 to get it back up
[21:24] <xangua> grendal-prime: lots of quides in this blog http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[21:26] <DrGrov> Good evening. Running 12.04 and having some Java issues. I think I have not installed Java before and would urgently need it to work. Thankful for any help provided.
[21:26] <hxm> i just did sudo rm -rf ~ by mistake
[21:28] <the_drow> hi guys I tried to get rid of my password using passwd -d and now I can't log in for some reason.
[21:28] <escott_> the_drow, because you need a password
[21:29] <the_drow> escott_: but Ubuntu lets the root user to be passwordless when it is installed
[21:30] <the_drow> escott_: anyway, how do I recover my account?
[21:30] <bizhan_> hi Does ubuntu 12.04 supports btrfs file system? thx
[21:31] <hxm> the_drow: cant you log with root user?
[21:31] <escott_> the_drow, the root user is not passwordless. the root user has a password that cannot be matched by any password
[21:31] <the_drow> hxm: now, I'm an idiot. It was the root user
[21:31] <the_drow> I mean, it was the only user who has root access
[21:31] <s3r3n1t7> When im doing apt-get update, the downloads go real quick. However, the Reading package lists step is slower than a bull without legs stuck in glue. Is there a fix around anyone would like to share? :)
[21:32] <escott_> bizhan_, yes but the filesystem is not production ready
[21:32] <DrGrov> Or perhaps I should ask that which Java should I install? =)
[21:32] <hxm> the_drow: but can you run ubuntu at safe mode and log as console with root user? or did you delete the root's password
[21:32] <bizhan_> escott_: thanks for your replay, will you know in what time frame it may be ready? Thx
[21:33] <escott_> bizhan_, hard to say. i would wait for some substantial improvement in fsync performance
[21:34] <hxm> the_drow: if you cant log with root, i could run  the option recovery mode in grub, then choose the option root (Drop to root shell prompt), then type: mount -o rw,remount /, and then try passwd
[21:35] <hxm> and type a new password
[21:36] <sliva> hey guys im writing a script to capture the output of the current value of xgamma
[21:36] <sliva> but i cant get it
[21:36] <sliva> to store in a variable
[21:36] <silvereye> how are you trying to capture?
[21:37] <sliva> i tried
[21:37] <sliva> xgamma echo $?
[21:37] <sliva> and it prints out 0
[21:37] <sliva> which is the return value
[21:37] <sliva> and
[21:37] <sliva> xg=$(xgamma) echo $xg
[21:38] <silvereye> oh, I thought you meant you were trying to capture the screen output for some xgamma value
[21:38] <sliva> no just the current value
[21:38] <sliva> it prints on the console but i cant get the string in a variable programmaticaly
[21:39] <sliva> xg=$(xgamma) echo $xg   just store nothing in the variable
[21:39] <silvereye> it should say what xgamma value is being used, in your xorg.0.log file, but you'll probably need to grep for it
[21:40] <sliva> silvereye: it prints out the value on console if you just enter xgamma
[21:40] <DrGrov> I am using Google Chrome and there I need Java for identifying myself to my webbank. Any good hints on which package to install?
[21:40] <sliva> but doesnt store it in the variable as program output
[21:40] <silvereye> so "xgamma > file.dat" doesn't work?
[21:41] <sliva> nope
[21:41] <sliva> thats the weird part
[21:41] <sliva> it clearly prints smtn on the console
[21:41] <sliva> but its not the output nor the return value
[21:41] <sliva> it prints: -> Red  0.600, Green  0.600, Blue  0.600
[21:42] <sliva> what does -> mean ? stderr?
[21:43] <silvereye> " > file.dat" would send std output to file.dat
[21:43] <DrGrov> I have read what the security issues are with Java but I desperately need it for banking/identifying myself as me for a job application.
[21:43] <skjoedt> Is there a way to use the 'scale' effect (Super+W) on a separate type of application only? (such as terminal windows only)?
[21:44] <Apes> sliva, try: xg=$(xgamma 2>&1)
[21:44] <labsin> DrGrov: It is only the browser propretary java client
[21:45] <sliva> Apes: tnx that got it :)
[21:45] <sliva> it was stderr after all
[21:45] <DrGrov> labsin: Ah okay. I have some issues getting past the "initializing Java" when I am trying to sign in. I freeze somehow.
[21:45] <sliva> but to print the current value via stderr...pretty weird
[21:45] <DrGrov> labsin: What should I actually do to get it running?
[21:45] <sliva> Apes: that you very much
[21:45] <Apes> sliva: You're welcome
[21:45] <STMelon> DrGrov: http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en oracle java installation, use the right side for a repo and auto updates)
[21:45] <sliva> silvereye: thank you very much for your help and time as well!
[21:45] <labsin> DrGrow The one for Linux is icedtea
[21:46] <silvereye> you are welcome
[21:46] <DrGrov> STMelon: Looking into it now.
[21:47] <DrGrov> STMelon: So that will provide me Java and further updates as well?
[21:47] <histo> sliva: you could try redirecting the output filtering out stderr with 2>/dev/null
[21:48] <sliva> histo: but wouldnt that ignore the output...im actually interested in that value
[21:48] <sliva> it's prolly just a problem bug
[21:48] <DrGrov> STMelon: Does it matter where in /etc/apt/sources.list I put it?
[21:48] <labsin> DrGrow There is however also the Java-applet from oracle themself that come with the jdk
[21:49] <datsmoida> my lithuanian vps support is awesome
[21:49] <DrGrov> labsin: Ah okay. If I follow what STMelon wrote I should be good. I could remove it easily afterwards, yes+
[21:49] <DrGrov> The source and updates that is?
[21:50] <silvereye> just had the weirdest system warning message - "microuptime() went backwards"
[21:50] <histo> sliva: if you jsut want to redirect stdout?
[21:50] <histo> sliva: or you want stderr also?
[21:50] <ninny> ok I have ubuntu core installed, I can't use ping as it's not installed yet
[21:51] <ninny> not sure if I have an internet connection
[21:51] <ninny> any other way of telling?
[21:51] <UNGNightmare> guys I am trying to install java sdk in ubuntu 12.0 and I just fail, anybody can give me a hand?
[21:51] <sliva> histo: i want to store it in the variable and got it already
[21:51] <datsmoida> isn't java insecure now
[21:51] <histo> ninny: You have to have ping or trace or some sort of ip tools installed
[21:51] <datsmoida> f java
[21:52] <sliva> Apes solution worked
[21:52] <STMelon> yea you can, and unlike openjdk, it wont install opnejdk7 when you remove openjdk6
[21:52] <histo> sliva: oh okay sorry
[21:52] <ninny> no trace
[21:52] <ninny> no ping
[21:52] <sliva> histo: no problem
[21:52] <Apes> ninny: You could use telnet, eg telnet www.google.com 80
[21:52] <sliva> histo: thank you very much for your help as well
[21:52]  * root passes out the popcorn
[21:52] <STMelon> personally, i dont have java installed, it's to insecure. if a website requires java, i dont use it
[21:52] <DrGrov> STMelon: Should I also install the suggested packages?
[21:52] <ninny> no telnet :)
[21:52] <ninny> no apt-get
[21:52] <histo> ninny: How exactly did you install this system?
[21:52] <escott_> silvereye, your clock went backwards
[21:52] <ninny> haha
[21:52] <ninny> it's a cubox
[21:52] <ninny> ubuntu core install
[21:52] <FloodBot1> ninny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <STMelon> yea
[21:53] <DrGrov> STMelon: Okay :) I just need it for a brief moment for a work application so I am identified.
[21:53] <ninny> so it's literally the bare bones of ubuntu
[21:53] <labsin> DrGrov: Installing icedtea is the securest
[21:53] <labsin> it's the Open Variant of the java-web-applet
[21:53] <Apes> ninny: Write a c program that opens a socket and connects to google's website.
[21:53] <STMelon> i would question your bank why they need java, when half if not the whole world knows how insecure it is ....
[21:53] <DrGrov> Sorry, having some issues following the discussion without highlighting my name
[21:53] <STMelon> or at least bring it to their attention
[21:54] <silvereye> escott_ : I guess so, but this is the first time that's ever happened. Is it a sign of hardware problems?
[21:54] <STMelon> haha sory DrGrov
[21:54] <histo> ninny: Core install has apt and pint
[21:54] <histo> ninny: ping
[21:54] <labsin> DrGrov: sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin
[21:54] <ninny> histo: mine doesn't seem too
[21:54] <UNGNightmare> I need java to do developing so I don't care about security^^ I did download the .tar.gz here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[21:54] <escott_> silvereye, not really.
[21:54] <DrGrov> STMelon: Yeah, I will actually give them a call and say it is a huge vulnerability. I only use the webbased text version without Java when I do banking. But in this case it is the work provider, the government, that require some type of identification.
[21:54] <UNGNightmare> but now I don't have any idea how to install it :D
[21:54] <Apes> ninny: Try /sbin/ping
[21:54] <DrGrov> STMelon: No worries :)
[21:54] <ninny> agh, thanks apes
[21:55] <histo> ninny: Again how did you install?  So you path is jacked up
[21:55] <DrGrov> Okay, then I go and remove the additional repository I just put in
[21:55] <escott_> silvereye, clocks drift. not a big deal unless you are running a high frequency trading shop. just make sure ntp is installed
[21:55] <STMelon> DrGrov: and yes it will update
[21:55] <Apes> histo: /sbin just isn't in the path by default
[21:55] <STMelon> DrGrov: remove the repo and type in terminal sudo update-sun-jre -v remove
[21:56] <DrGrov> STMelon: Sure, will do. How about the GPG key I added to confirm the repo?
[21:56] <STMelon> also remove the gpg key DrGrov
[21:56] <DrGrov> STMelon: So I should go with the icdeatea-plugin for now as labsin suggests and then after remove it?
[21:57] <STMelon> no
[21:57] <STMelon> use the oracle one that will install with the repo
[21:57] <ninny> Apes: nah nothing of use there either
[21:57] <STMelon> you will fight openjdk6 and 7 when you try to remove either or
[21:57] <sidney_> I even get a black screen when booting to a live cd
[21:57] <kenperkins> how do people address dns caching in your ubuntu servers
[21:57] <STMelon> remove openjdk6, it install openjdk7
[21:57] <Apes> ninny: Sounds like your install is hosed.
[21:57] <ninny> I'll jump back to cubox and see if there's any help there as this is a bit out of the scope of general ubuntu use, I understand that.
[21:57] <STMelon> remove openjdk7 it installs openjdk6
[21:57] <Apes> You could try /usr/sbin/ping, but I doubt it's there
[21:58] <labsin> the openjdk doesn't have any security issues on 7. Only compability
[21:58] <DrGrov> STMelon: So I accidentally removed the right repo I just added? Haha =)
[21:58] <ninny> apes: nah just user add etc
[21:58] <DrGrov> STMelon: Well, I put back the repo again then :)
[21:59] <wuyi> hello, can anyone help with recovery of raid partition using ubuntu? I can't mount it
[21:59] <labsin> And OpenJDK doesn't include a web-applet or om i wrong?
[21:59] <STMelon> labsin:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2024003
[22:00] <STMelon> should do research abit, if one has the exploit so will openjdk
[22:00] <sakkemo> is there any usable utility (something like wicd) for usb mobile broadband modem, or do I need to install network-manager (along with gnome)?
[22:00] <STMelon> DrGrov: just follow that link i gave you, should install pretty easy
[22:00] <STMelon> DrGrov: and then to remove it is just as easy
[22:01] <DrGrov> STMelon: Sure, will do. I asked for the GPG key again but it froze. I hope it has it.
[22:01] <STMelon> DrGrov: sudo tp-get update, it should give a warning if the key is not there
[22:01] <STMelon> apt*
[22:02] <labsin> STMelon: it seems the 7 is closer to the closed source than 6.
[22:02] <DrGrov> STMelon: It worked well. It had the key already the first time I added the repo and accidentally deleted the repo even before I used it haha =)
[22:03] <solars> hey, is there an audio equalizer for ubuntu? can't find one
[22:03] <DrGrov> STMelon: It keeps suggesting packages for me now when I want to install update-sun-jre. Should I take them from Synaptic instead than a terminal?
[22:03] <STMelon> labsin: the point being openjdk6 had/has vulnerabilities as well, since it is now openjdk7, blackhats concentrate on oracle/openjdk 7 .. but 6 .. (java is java) still is inseucre
[22:03] <STMelon> i always used the terminal
[22:04] <DrGrov> STMelon: Ok, I will do it as well.
[22:04] <STMelon> right down or screenshoot, the packages it installs
[22:04] <sidney_> solars pulse has a system wide eq
[22:04] <solars> sidney_, how can I access it?
[22:04] <STMelon> DrGrov: thats what i did, and then went back in synaptic after i removed .. to see if they wrre removed as well
[22:05] <DrGrov> STMelon: It is installing, huge load of text :)
[22:05] <STMelon> yip lol
[22:05] <DrGrov> STMelon: Okay, got it. Now I shall test it to see whether it works.
[22:06] <STMelon> since oracle java is no longer a mainstream repo for linux, that link is the from a good source for the oracle version of java, for linux
[22:06] <sidney_> solars, it has to be installed
[22:06] <sidney_> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html
[22:06] <STMelon> although I do not even have java installed.. rather be safe than sorry
[22:06] <DrGrov> STMelon: Okay, I will just keep it then until I have it fixed and then quickly remove it.
[22:07] <STMelon> chances of getting exploited, well might be slim, also depends on the sites you visit, and if so, make sure you trust those sites
[22:08] <sidney_> could an update cause ubuntu to boot to a black screen even the live cd?
[22:09] <STMelon> even though linux has few viruses out there, it is not bullet proof, i run bitdefender for unices, rkhunter, and chkrootkit
[22:09] <STMelon> browser: i usually have no script
[22:10] <DrGrov> STMelon: Java worked out well now. Now it is just the question why it keeps taking so long for me to actually get into my government's database where I apply for the position.
[22:10] <silvereye> sidney_ ubuntu drivers do write to the hardware, so if the update had a malfunctioning driver it could corrupt your machine nvram making dutre boot difficult
[22:11] <silvereye> sidney_ I meant future booting difficult
[22:12] <DrGrov> STMelon: It worked, just acting a bit sluggish haha
[22:12] <sidney_> silvereye I'm not sure if it was an update or my nephew did something while I was away
[22:12] <STMelon> lol
[22:12] <nova_> hi
[22:12] <STMelon> could be server load to the website your connecting to
[22:12] <sidney_> even the 12.04 live cd fails to boot
[22:12] <STMelon> maybe a peak moment DrGrov
[22:13] <silvereye> ubuntu 11.1 was able to permanently kill the harddrive I tried to install it to
[22:13] <silvereye> ubuntu 11.1 was able to permanently kill the harddrive I tried to install it to11.10
[22:13] <silvereye> 11.10 not 11.1
[22:15] <Seven_Six_Two> I have nfs exports from my server that recently stopped working (ubuntu 12.04). Has there been a change in the past few weeks that might be likely culprit?
[22:16] <Ben64> silvereye: ubuntu doesn't kill hard drives
[22:16] <histo> Seven_Six_Two: working here.
[22:17] <nova_> hi does any on have a 8350 fx or fx 8cpu?  I think Ubuntu is using my CPU incorrectly.
[22:17] <_goxxsy_> !ping me
[22:18] <nova_> ?
[22:18] <Pici> nova_: why would you think that?
[22:18] <Seven_Six_Two> interesting. I haven't mounted on my other  computers, but they're on a different subnet than the boxee (what I'm trying to mount exports on)
[22:18] <maheanuu> hello to all, and I am having a problem after an upgrade on 12.04, I have lost my microphone for about the zillionth time and cannot seem to find out where it went or the drivers etc....  Can someone give me a series of instructions to diag the problem and affect the repairs in the terminal..
[22:19] <histo> Seven_Six_Two: NFS appears to be workign here.
[22:19] <histo> maheanuu: Drivers for a microphone?
[22:19] <nova_> Compering it to windows 8 witch i should not do ( -_- ) performance is a bit different ?
[22:19] <histo> maheanuu: Is your sound working otherwise?
[22:19] <histo> !english
[22:20] <tgm4883> nova_, sounds subjective
[22:20] <maheanuu> histo, Yes it is but no mike for Ubuntu and it was working absolutely wunnerful before the upgrade
[22:20] <Seven_Six_Two> histo, you don't happen to be using a boxee box too do you? (alliteration +10!)
[22:20] <histo> maheanuu: check and see if it's muted.
[22:21] <histo> Seven_Six_Two: Nope.
[22:21] <maheanuu> histo,I did and it isn't
[22:21] <silvereye> maheanuu : is this a usb microphone? or one plugged into an audio port on a sound card?
[22:21] <maheanuu> silvereye, i am using a Toshiba Satellite Notebook
[22:22] <UNGNightmare> following problem: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file
[22:22] <UNGNightmare> any ideas?
[22:22] <maheanuu> silvereye, built in above the monitor
[22:22] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what did you try to do?
[22:22] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 only java -version
[22:23] <silvereye> maheanuu : "lsusb" should tell you if it is a usb mic"
[22:23] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, 64-bit java on 32-bit ubuntu?
[22:23] <maheanuu> Silvereye, the mike is an integral part of the computer
[22:23] <crazy> slt
[22:23] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 well that could be it ^^, how would I get a 32-bit versions of java?
[22:23] <nova_> any one have an idea of how a 8-core CPU is differing in performance on Ubuntu
[22:24] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, where did you get java to begin with?
[22:24] <silvereye> maheanuu : integral or not, it's either connected by usb internally or connected to a sound card internally, and it's important to know which for trying to correct the problem
[22:24] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[22:24] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: lol fail mom
[22:24] <maheanuu> silvereye, just ran lsusb and it aint there
[22:24] <s3r3n1t7> nova_, you shouldnt notice any difference in performance unless you are using some very heavy multithreaded software (which i doubt if you dont know if you do)
[22:24] <maheanuu> I know that it isn't a USB mic
[22:24] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, which one did you download, i586 or x64?
[22:25] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html
[22:25] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, that is a URL to a webpage, not a download
[22:25] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: took the -x64.tar.gz ...
[22:25] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the output of 'uname -a'
[22:25] <tgm4883> on the command line
[22:25] <maheanuu> silvereye, it isn't listed hang on I will do a cut and paste
[22:26] <syntroPi> maheanuu, try "alsamixer"
[22:26] <silvereye> maheanuu : if you assume that it's internally connected to the laptop's sound card, then using "alsamixer" might let you activate it
[22:26] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: time and i686
[22:26] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, bammo, 64-bit java on 32-bit Ubuntu
[22:26] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, you need to download the x86 version
[22:27] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 lol I thought that would be even higher -.-
[22:27] <nova_> s3r3nit7 , its kind of odd in how it uses all CPU cores
[22:27] <tgm4883> eg, jdk-7u13-linux-i586.tar.gz
[22:27] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: thank you very much!
[22:27] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, well to be fair, you didn't read all of the instructions that you linked to ;)
[22:27] <tgm4883> specifically
[22:27] <tgm4883> tar -xvf jdk-7u2-linux-i586.tar.gz (32bit)
[22:27] <tgm4883> tar -xvf jdk-7u2-linux-x64.tar.gz (64bit)
[22:28] <syntroPi> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[22:28] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, yw
[22:28] <maheanuu> sivvereye, it is listed and I am going to give you the paste in a couple of seconds
[22:28] <maheanuu> Silvereye http://paste.ubuntu.com/1622399/
[22:29] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 I did, but I had no idea if I have 32 or 64 bit ^^ now I know ty!
[22:29] <maheanuu> silvereye,I tried alsa mixer last night and no joy
[22:29] <syntroPi> C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like Sound Device
[22:29] <LantzR> pbuilder ?: do you run pbuilder under your profile or as root?
[22:31] <silvereye> ok, so it is a usb sound card connected internally to the mic
[22:32] <maheanuu> silvereye, yes, I missed that on my quick readthru the first time sorry bout that
[22:32] <nova_> Is using Apache2 a security issue in Ubuntu ? if its on a live desktop "distro 64-bit"  and as well online.
[22:33] <maheanuu> silvereye, somedaze I feel that I am getting a little too old for this but I refuse to quit
[22:33] <t0ntin> hi, all! I'm trying to connect to a free VPN, but I get an error notification that says that the connection to the VPN failed. I have tried several VPN logins from different sites. Any ideas?
[22:33] <Lockzi> Hey guys, I have a problem... I am running ESXi with the harddrive on a SAN connected through iSCSI. The issue is that my Virtual Machine (Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS) is full. df -h 0 bytes... Also, I have extended this machine so many times that I have /dev/sda1 2 3 4 5 6. The question is if I can somehow merge all the physical volumes when I am using LVM?
[22:33] <dingo> hey guys, i have my computer hooked to my large tv. the problem is the command line text is very small, due to the high resolution. How can i make the text bigger and easier to read from a distance? also, i have no gui, this is ubuntu 12.04 server.
[22:33] <silvereye> maheanuu : if this happened on an update, then probably the latest cm106 is broken
[22:34] <silvereye> latest cm106 driver
[22:35] <maheanuu> silvereye, as I said, the system was fine until I came back from an upgrade and tried to call my nephew in France on Skype when I had just finished talking to him before the upgrade
[22:35] <nova_> hi is the any known issues with ruining Apache2 server on Ubuntu desktop ?
[22:36] <topper4125> can anyone tell me if this machine would be good for 12.04 LTS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883256198
[22:36] <silvereye> maheanuu : sometimes newer driver version adds extra bugs which were not there before, the driver becomes broken even if it was previously working
[22:36] <nova_> hi is the any known issues with ruining Apache2 server on Ubuntu desktop ?
[22:36] <litropy> topper4125, yes.
[22:36] <fox_wilson> nova_: As in will the server immediately crash? No.
[22:37] <syntroPi> nova_, if noone here knows one it still wouldnt mean there arent any
[22:37] <fidel> !repeat | nova_
[22:37] <Ben64> topper4125: you should build your own and save a couple hundred dollars
[22:37] <nova_> OK sorry every-one ^-^
[22:37] <fidel> nova_: its always a good advice to have the latest version of an app - i guess using a non-updated live-cd might be a disadvantage at this point
[22:37] <silvereye> maheanuu : you may need to somehow revert to the previous driver
[22:38] <fidel> and as always - there is no bug-free software ...so issues might arise over time
[22:38] <nova_> fidel , so i need the latest version and if i get PHP i need ver.5
[22:39] <Ben64> !lamp | nova
[22:39] <fidel> nova_: with latest i mean - keep it updated over time - not staying with an old release
[22:40] <dingo> hey guys, i have my computer hooked to my large tv. the problem is the command line text is very small, due to the high resolution. How can i make the text bigger and easier to read from a distance? also, i have no gui, this is ubuntu 12.04 server.
[22:40] <fidel> using a live-cd sounds for a longer time sounds like 'not installing updates' or am i wrong here?
[22:40] <maheanuu> silvereye, I am thinking the same thing, but there doesn't seem to be a way back from this morass I am in at present, or at least I have not been able to find it, you must forgive me, I am pushing 75 (Mar 7) and I still am in the learning phase, I will NEVER quit
[22:41] <silvereye> maheanuu : I don't personally know how to revert to previous driver, perhaps someone else here does
[22:41] <nova_> fidel , oh OK thank you for answering my questions :-)
[22:42] <maheanuu> Used to be a field engineer for Sperry Univac, and love the digital field, I just find that it gets more difficult the older I get as my learning curve is beginning to flatten out
[22:42] <fidel> nova_: to break it down- what is your plan with this lamp-setup? running a lamp server for a long time - sharing content to the internet?
[22:42] <fidel> and why are you considerung using a live-cd for it?
[22:42] <uplinx> howdy, so, i want to set up a virtual resolution for my xsession, i would like it to be 5120x1024 anyone have any advice on how to achieve this?
[22:43] <silvereye> dingo, does the text become smaller part way through the boot process?
[22:43] <maheanuu> silvereye, thanks for your help and I will stick around and see if someone can possibly show me what I need to do to figure this out
[22:45] <int_ua> does oem-config create a user not in a sudo group? My friend just bought a netbook with xubuntu preinstalled and the user was created right in the store without giving her a root password.
[22:45] <dingo> silvereye: havent watched the boot process for some time. but i dont think so no.
[22:45] <dingo> silvereye: im due for  a reboot right now, just by chance
[22:45] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: sorry to bother you again, but it's still telling the same, could it be, that there is something left over from before? ^^
[22:46] <maheanuu> exit
[22:46] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the output of 'ls /usr/bin/java'
[22:46] <tgm4883> sorry
[22:46] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the output of 'ls -l /usr/bin/java'
[22:46] <Synthead> I just put a ton of fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/google-webfonts.  I ran fc-cache -vf, but none of the fonts are seen by applications.  fc-cache showed ~1300 fonts in that directory.  what am I missing?
[22:47] <woo> bye
[22:47] <syntroPi> dingo maybe VESA-modes would help "vga=" in cmdline for kernel from grub, but probably there is easier way
[22:47] <syntroPi> like fontsize or sth like that
[22:47] <syntroPi> dingo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/173220/how-do-i-change-the-font-or-the-font-size-in-the-tty-console
[22:47] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[22:48] <dingo> syntroPi: thanks,  i never put the tty part in my google searches, maybe that was my problem, i will look into this link.
[22:48] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, and you went though that guide?
[22:49] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 yes: but twice already (64-bit then 32-bit) and sudo update-alternatives --config java won't get me what it should
[22:54] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the output of 'ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java'
[22:54] <escott_> uplinx, xrandr should be able to set that up for you
[22:54] <t0ntin> It's my first time connecting to a VPN. I get an error message saying "the VPN connection failed." Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:54] <maheanuu> I am trying to get to the Ubuntu chat site, but I don't believe that this is it?  can someone direct me?
[22:54] <silvereye> this is it
[22:54] <daftykins> maheanuu: for support this is it. what are you looking for?
[22:54] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: any ideas?
[22:54] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the output of 'ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java'
[22:55] <maheanuu> I have a sound problem, I did an upgrade and lost my mic last night and nothing I have done can bring it back
[22:55] <wbf> I need help. Make is not working
[22:55] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java
[22:55] <wbf> I'm getting the modpost not found error
[22:56] <abyss42> I am running django on my ubuntu VM, when i run my dev server, i want to access it from another computer, in the same network, how do i do it?
[22:56] <topper4125> maheanuu, if you're looking for support this is it, if you're looking for off topic talk #ubuntu-offtopic, and if you're looking for developers, try #ubuntu-discuss
[22:56] <daftykins> wbf: you'd be better off with a programming language channel than here for answering that.
[22:56] <daftykins> topper4125: bit late.
[22:56] <kaendfinger> Anyone here willing to help out with a major app project for Ubuntu?
[22:56] <syntroPi> maheanuu, did you search in dmesg for it?
[22:56] <topper4125> oops
[22:56] <wbf> daftykins: which channel?
[22:57] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, what about when you run 'sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java" 1'
[22:57] <tgm4883> err
[22:57] <tgm4883> sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java" 1
[22:57] <silvereye> syntroPi : it was a dm106 usb sound device builtin to their laptop
[22:57] <maheanuu> syntroPi:  not sure about dmesg will go to terminal and see what that has to offer
[22:57] <dingo> my screen size stayed the same all through the boot. the link provided didnt change anything. I keep searching for 'resolution' and 'text size' but the result arent very good. ideas on other keywords?
[22:57] <silvereye> syntroPi : it was a cm106 usb sound device builtin to their laptop
[22:57] <daftykins> wbf: i have no idea on channels for languages, but i don't know what language the program you're compiling is in either - C at a guess
[22:57] <syntroPi> yes
[22:57] <unhuman> hey, how can i found out how php sends email from my ubuntu server?
[22:57] <paws-> in my /etc/rc.local i have su -c root startx but its not logging me in automatically... why is that?
[22:58] <wbf> daftykins: it's the linux KERNEL.
[22:58] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: no message or error after that
[22:58] <kaendfinger> What's a Application/Package related channel?
[22:58] <syntroPi> maheanuu, silvereye but maybe "dmesg" complaints about something related to that cm106 usb sound card
[22:58] <daftykins> wbf: try a kernel channel then
[22:58] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, you said something was wrong when you did 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' right? what was wrong?
[22:59] <daftykins> wbf: actually this may be of use:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[22:59] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: it says: THere is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java) : /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java; Nothing to configure.
[22:59] <maheanuu> syntroPi:I have the dmesg readout and it is a nightmare, now all I have to do is figure it out....
[23:00] <syntroPi> maheanuu, can you paste the output from your dmesg in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give the link here?
[23:00] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, out of curiosity, what happens if you do '/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java -version'
[23:01] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: cannot execute binary file ^^
[23:01] <sotomoss> hi guy
[23:01] <lunatic^> what can i install to test my 3d?
[23:02] <daftykins> lunatic^: glxgears
[23:02] <escott_> lunatic^, what do you want to test?
[23:02] <lunatic^> just see my drivers working, fps, etc
[23:02] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: could there be still somthing 64-bit left? ^^
[23:02] <syntroPi> glxinfo | grep direct
[23:02] <escott_> lunatic^, performance or existence
[23:02] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, how about 'file /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java'
[23:03] <lunatic^> existence i suppose
[23:03] <lunatic^> isn't there a open source game on the repo :)
[23:03] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: EFL 64-bit LSB executable D:
[23:04] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, so at least we know it's the wrong one :)
[23:04] <syntroPi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/games/
[23:04] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: how do I get rid of it now? ^^
[23:04] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what about 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/java'
[23:04] <escott_> lunatic^, there are various games, but depending upon your cpu you could run some with software rendering and not be entirely sure what you are running
[23:05] <lunatic^> it's a gaming pc
[23:05] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java
[23:05] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, perfect
[23:05] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, so should be easy enough to get rid of
[23:05] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, Did you do all the unzipping from your Download dir?
[23:06] <UNGNightmare> home dir
[23:06] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: home dir
[23:06] <syntroPi> id go with those webpud8 repo since it will update it aswell (horrible sec on java)
[23:06] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, do you still have java stuff in your home dir?
[23:06] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: yes
[23:07] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, any java directories or just files?
[23:07] <maheanuu> syntroPi: here is part of it do you need it all?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1622526/
[23:08] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: lol nah that files are gone, should I unzip again?
[23:08] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, not yet
[23:08] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: there is just the .tar.gz left
[23:08] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, just one?
[23:08] <syntroPi> maheanuu, yes the whole output of dmesg: "dmesg > /tmp/dmesg" "gedit /tmp/dmesg" copy&paste and provide link
[23:08] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, what is the filename of that one?
[23:08] <wbf> can someone give me a precompiled modpost?
[23:08] <wbf> because the LFS people say "If it's ubuntu we don't support it."
[23:09] <maheanuu> syntroPi: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1622532/
[23:09] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: jdk-7u13-linux-i586.tar.gz
[23:09] <syntroPi> thats not all
[23:09] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, unzip that one, but don't move the directory yet
[23:09] <syntroPi> maheanuu, starts with [0000]
[23:10] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, first do 'sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0'
[23:10] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, that will delete the 64-bit version of java you have installed
[23:11] <Cool1> hello
[23:11] <Cool1> can someone give me some assisitance? I am setting up my first IRC server but having problems connecting my client to my server
[23:11] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: all done :)
[23:12] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, ok, so now go though that guide starting with the 'sudo mv' command
[23:12] <datsmoida> does running a lot of SSH sessions use a lot of CPU/ram ?
[23:12] <daftykins> Cool1: your best bet is to ask for support in a channel for the IRC server you're using, just because it's Ubuntu doesn't exactly relate...
[23:12] <Cool1> okay thanks!
[23:12] <daftykins> datsmoida: use 'top' to find out
[23:13] <jilebedev> Hello. How can I uniquely identify a physical hard drive that is a part of a RAID1 array in ubuntu? blkid gives the same 'universaliy unique' identifier for the two mirrored partitons.
[23:13] <datsmoida> i am using top and my CPU is at like 98"%
[23:13] <datsmoida> even though i just tripled my ram
[23:13] <datsmoida> but i do have like 20 SSH sessions going
[23:13] <syntroPi> maheanuu,  "dmesg > /tmp/dmesg" "gedit /tmp/dmesg" copy&paste and provide link
[23:13] <jrib> datsmoida: what process does top show using the cpu?
[23:14] <datsmoida> top - 15:14:04 up  2:39, 22 users,  load average: 0
[23:14] <datsmoida> Tasks: 104 total,   1 running, 103 sleeping,   0 st
[23:14] <datsmoida> Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.5%id,  0.0%wa
[23:14] <datsmoida> Mem:    759304k total,   389168k used,   370136k fr
[23:14] <datsmoida> Swap:  1048572k total,        0k used,  1048572k fr
[23:14] <datsmoida> 99.5% ?
[23:14] <jrib> datsmoida: that's idle
[23:14] <STMelon> thats idle
[23:14] <wbf> please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <datsmoida> lol oh
[23:15] <datsmoida> wbf - ok np
[23:15] <DrGrov> STMelon: Okay, got it done. Now how to remove this Java? :)
[23:15] <datsmoida> jrib - thx
[23:15] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883: sudo update-alternatives --config still says the same as before but java -version is working so I think everything is fine?
[23:15] <Acibi> Does anyone know if there is major difference between the LibreOffice we can find on the ubuntu repo and the .deb that we can download on libreOffice.org?
[23:15] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, yep sounds good :)
[23:16] <STMelon> DrGrov: sudo update-sun-jre -v remove
[23:16] <DrGrov> STMelon: PM'ed you.
[23:16] <UNGNightmare> tgm4883 you are todays hero! thank you!
[23:17] <tgm4883> UNGNightmare, yw
[23:20] <guideX> is it possible to run call of duty black ops + steam under 12.10?
[23:20] <guideX> and if so, how does it play?
[23:20] <maheanuu> syntroPi: I hope this is what you want http://paste.ubuntu.com/1622550/
[23:20] <tgm4883> guideX, no, it might be possible under Wine
[23:20] <paws-> in my /etc/rc.local i have su -c root startx but its not logging me in automatically... why is that?
[23:20] <tgm4883> guideX, but I'm assuming you are asking about the steam linux client
[23:20] <ShapeShifter499> sometimes my ssh service seems slow even though I'm ssh-ing over local network, why?
[23:21] <jrib> paws-: that's an awful idea
[23:21] <tgm4883> ShapeShifter499, high server load?
[23:21] <paws-> jrib: i need it..
[23:21] <jrib> paws-: why?
[23:21] <ShapeShifter499> its my own personal server
[23:21] <ShapeShifter499> noting barely runs on it
[23:22] <jrib> ShapeShifter499: you mean you type and it's slow to show up?
[23:22] <ShapeShifter499> yes
[23:22] <jrib> ShapeShifter499: can be an issue on the client if you're downloading/uploading a lot
[23:22] <paws-> jrib: couze its a server and i am tired of always logging in and typing password... and im the only one that has physical access to to it
[23:22] <ShapeShifter499> jrib, yes
[23:23] <tgm4883> paws-, a ubuntu server?
[23:23] <jrib> ShapeShifter499: you could check out mosh maybe
[23:23] <paws-> yes tgm4883
[23:23] <tgm4883> paws-, with a gui installed?
[23:23] <paws-> yes :)
[23:23] <jrib> paws-: what are you doing that requires so much password entry?
[23:23] <tgm4883> paws-, and I'm assuming you don't want the gui running all the time
[23:24] <ShapeShifter499> jrib, mosh?
[23:24] <paws-> my question is why isnt the rc.local responding to that...
[23:24] <jrib> ShapeShifter499: http://mosh.mit.edu/
[23:24] <jrib> paws-: because your syntax is wrong.  And you are doing something not recommended at all.
[23:24] <histo> paws-: How are you trying to login automatically?
[23:24] <paws-> i understand its not the smartest thing but quiet frankly security is not my issue
[23:25] <paws-> histo: when i boot the computer its in the terminal
[23:25] <jrib> paws-: I don't see why you can login as a regular user.  If you need to do a series of tasks with sudo, just use "sudo -i" and you'll have a root shell
[23:25] <jrib> s/can/can't
[23:25] <histo> paws-: Why don't you autologni your user and then startx .  I can explain how i'm doing it on my box hooked to my tv
[23:26] <ShapeShifter499> jrib, thanks I'll try that
[23:27] <mattwj2002> what is ltsp?
[23:27] <histo> paws-: In my /etc/inittab Change you rfirst tty to  1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f paws tty1 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
[23:27] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, linux terminal server project
[23:27] <mattwj2002> huh?
[23:27] <mattwj2002> is that the server version?
[23:27] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, no. Why do you want to know
[23:28] <mattwj2002> I was looking at some documentation and it mentioned it
[23:28] <histo> paws-: then in your ~/.bash_profile You need to add a script that if x isn't running it will startx
[23:28] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, the server version is..... "ubuntu server"
[23:28] <mattwj2002> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[23:29] <histo> paws-: Something like if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ]; then startx fi
[23:29] <histo> Would work
[23:29] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, yes, I know what LTSP is
[23:29] <mattwj2002> so would you mind sharing?
[23:29] <uplinx> anyone know of a virtual resolution tututorial?
[23:30] <dreamer000> How can I install libxml-sax-perl in precise? It conflicts with installed perl.
[23:30] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, do you know what a terminal server is?
[23:30] <mattwj2002> yes
[23:30] <compdoc> virtual resolution? as in?
[23:30] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, then LTSP is the project for a Linux Terminal Server
[23:30] <mattwj2002> ok
[23:30] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, http://www.ltsp.org/
[23:31] <histo> paws-: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-auto-login-and-startx-without-a-display-manager-in-debian.html
[23:31] <paws-> histo: thanx i am doing what you told me...
[23:31] <mattwj2002> thanks tgm4883
[23:31] <jrib> paws-: I strongly urge you not to.
[23:31] <histo> paws-: yeah no need for su
[23:31] <jrib> paws-: at least not as root.
[23:32] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, sorry, i've been working all day on getting a windows 7 VM updated :/
[23:32] <histo> jrib: Why he wants to auto login a user.
[23:32] <mattwj2002> tgm4883: no worries...I just got done with a hard day's worth of work too
[23:32] <jrib> histo: he's trying to auto-login as root into X
[23:32] <mattwj2002> I am a bit brain dead too
[23:32] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:32] <histo> jrib: Yeah, that's why I told him how to do it as a uer.
[23:32] <histo> s/uer/user/
[23:33] <mattwj2002> I do have a simple question
[23:33] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, shoot
[23:33] <Acibi> Anyone have an idea why an extension would load on the libreoffice from Ubuntu repo and fail when loading on LibreOffice installed from .deb??
[23:33] <mattwj2002> what is recommended for a server 12.04 or 12.10?
[23:33] <ShapeShifter499> jrib, the system I'm ssh-ing into is acting as my wifi router, could bad dhcp settings cause issues?
[23:33] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, Depends on the usage
[23:33] <wbf> I'm getting the modpost not found error (yes asking here now due to LFS saying ubuntu isn't LFS.
[23:33] <mattwj2002> good point
[23:33] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:33] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, generally, I suggest 12.04, as it's supported longer
[23:34] <histo> mattwj2002: I would use LTS which is 12.04
[23:34] <mattwj2002> right
[23:34] <jrib> histo: which is fine.  Though 1) I would just use lightdm and 2) Does the /etc/inittab method work with upstart?
[23:34] <mattwj2002> okay cool
[23:34] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, but there are cases to use 12.10, for instance, if the software you want to run isn't available/doesn't support 12.04
[23:34] <histo> jrib: He doesn't even have display maanger from the sound of it. Since it's a server install.
[23:35] <mattwj2002> I just want to build a simple server
[23:35] <mattwj2002> not even really production
[23:35] <jrib> histo: yet he has startx ;)
[23:35] <jrib> ShapeShifter499: I don't know
[23:35] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, if the hardware supports 12.04, I'd go 12.04
[23:35] <mattwj2002> thanks tgm4883
[23:35] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:35] <tgm4883> mattwj2002, that is what I do for our servers at work
[23:36] <tgm4883> 12.04 VMs
[23:36] <mattwj2002> nice!
[23:36] <histo> jrib: Upstart may be an issue. If so I would edit /etc/init/tty1.conf
[23:36] <otura> for some odd reason Kompozer isn't in 12.10 repositories and no ppa, what's the alternative?
[23:37] <mattwj2002> ubuntu is definitely nice and well documented
[23:38] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:39] <histo> otura: http://alternativeto.net/software/kompozer/
[23:39] <histo> mattwj2002: somethings are
[23:39] <mattwj2002> true
[23:39] <tgm4883> otura, for info on why  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer/+bug/1065547
[23:39] <mattwj2002> better than a lot of OSes
[23:39] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:44] <otura> tgm4883: oh wow, I forgot how much developing for any distro sucks. 2 year old software doesn't work. worse than iOS.
[23:44] <tgm4883> otura, not entirely sure what you are getting at (Updating windows has made me tired today)
[23:45] <otura> tgm4883: no sable ABI's anywhere except the POSIX standard itself
[23:45] <otura> s/sable/stable
[23:46] <tgm4883> otura, sorry, I was under the impression that it was removed because nobody wants to maintain it anymore (for the last 2 years)
[23:47] <tgm4883> otura, granted we're talking about Komposer, a WYSIWYG HTML editor, which from my experiencing dealing with web designers, they hate WYSIWYG HTML editors
[23:47] <marjinal1st> hi, i'm looking for a calendar/task software. what do you recommend for it, especially looking good under 12.10 and unity?
[23:49] <Jess11> I am setting up my first IRC server using ubuntu... I am undecided about which IRC to use any suggestions?
[23:49] <otura> tgm4883: oh but ofcourse! because web designers hate it, surely everyone must hate it as well! or should! just as with debian stable, why would anyone want new software. that's insane! /s
[23:49] <marjinal1st> asking again, i'm looking for a calendar/task software. what do you recommend for it, especially looking good under 12.10 and unity?
[23:50] <Physicist> How to install steam on 10.04??
[23:50] <otura> marjinal1st: Evolution combined with GNOME3
[23:50] <marjinal1st> anything else?
[23:50] <nibbler> i dislike evolution a lot and so prefer thunderbird
[23:50] <histo> !best | marjinal1st
[23:51] <tgm4883> otura, that comment asside, the software isn't being maintained anymore, so perhaps you should direct your anger at the developers of Komposer?
[23:51] <Physicist> The only one steam package available is i386, and my system doesn't accepted it!
[23:51] <jxcl> Does anyone know how long it will take before the official ubuntu repositories update to LibreOffice 4.0?
[23:52] <tgm4883> Physicist, works on my 64-bit system
[23:52] <tgm4883> Physicist, I  just did 'dpkg -i steam.deb' then 'apt-get -f install'
[23:52] <histo> jxcl: Repos don't update like that.
[23:52] <marjinal1st> actually i don't wanna install gnome 3 and other typical gnome software. happy with unity and thunderbird. just need an calendar/task software looking good on 12.10 and unity
[23:52] <otura> tgm4883: I'm not angry, I'm just slightly amused.
[23:52] <jxcl> histo: what do you mean?
[23:53] <histo> jxcl: Meaning it probably won't be updated until the next version of ubuntu. The software in the repos is only fixed for security reasons and bug fixes.  Other than that the version stays the same. You could check in backports if you need a newer version
[23:53] <Physicist> tmg4883. Ok.. I will try right now!
[23:53] <histo> !backports | jxcl
[23:53] <tgm4883> otura, well I just skimmed the bug report, it doesn't build on Quantal and nobody wants to maintain it. Sounds like a good reason to not have it in Quantal to me
[23:53] <jxcl> histo: thank you
[23:55] <slnls> Hi, I have a dataloss because of an apparent bug in nautilus. Trying to move files from one to another tab in nautilus, but move them back to the original tab gives an error and after clicking "abort" the files are GONE. for good
[23:55] <histo> slnls: What version of ubuntu?
[23:56] <histo> slnls: And is there a question in there?
[23:56] <slnls> 12.04. Where are my files?
[23:56] <tgm4883> slnls, link to bug report?
[23:56] <histo> slnls: have you tried looking in the directories in terminal?
[23:56] <Physicist> tmg4883. Wrong architecture i386..
[23:57] <tgm4883> Physicist, we're talking the steam linux client right?
[23:57] <Physicist> tmg4883. Wrong architecture i386..  my system is 64 amd too!
[23:57] <histo> Physicist: You should be able to install it.
[23:57] <tgm4883> Physicist, downloaded from http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb  ?
[23:57] <Physicist> tmg4883. yes.
[23:57] <histo> Physicist: Double click it. What error do you get?
[23:57] <tgm4883> Physicist, what version of Ubuntu?
[23:57] <Physicist> 10.04
[23:58] <tgm4883> Physicist, it doesn't support 10.04?
[23:58] <tgm4883> Physicist, it supports 12.04
[23:58] <tgm4883> which is a pretty large difference
[23:58] <slnls> OK, I found the files. but still. this is not supposed to happen. I dont have a bug report yet. How should I?
[23:58] <tgm4883> slnls, do you have steps to reproduce?
[23:58] <histo> !bug | slnls
[23:58] <Physicist> so i have to upgrade my system.. than install steam..
[23:59] <alami> i want to run a package only with typing his name at any time on terminal i have to add symlink?
[23:59] <Physicist> I like 10.04!
[23:59] <histo> Physicist: What error are you getting?
[23:59] <L3top> slnls: if nautilus crashed... didn't the crash handler pop up asking to submit something?
[23:59] <Physicist> isto, wrong architecture!
[23:59] <Physicist> only that.
[23:59] <tgm4883> histo, he's getting an "invalid architecture" error from dpkg since he's trying to install a 32-bit package on a 64-bit os