[03:59] <guest-2uz4bz> Hello
[04:01] <cfhowlett> guest-2uz4bz, greetings.
[04:04] <guest-2uz4bz> I'm hyaving a bit of a problem
[04:04] <cfhowlett> guest-2uz4bz, state the issue with details please
[04:05] <guest-2uz4bz> I just installed studio 12.10 , and all of a sudden there is some kind of boot loop at the login screen, so I'm using the guest acc now
[04:05] <guest-2uz4bz> I mean login loop
[04:06] <cfhowlett> guest-2uz4bz, so you can't login at all then?
[04:07] <guest-2uz4bz> I can login using the ctrl+alt+f1, but not with the normal gui
[04:09] <cfhowlett> guest-2uz4bz, see the link ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-12-10-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[04:14] <guest-2uz4bz> chown username:username .Xauthority
[04:14] <guest-2uz4bz> I put this into the terminal?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> guest-2
[04:15] <guest-2uz4bz> yes?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> yes.  reboot into single user mode and do the fix
[04:39] <testing> I'm the same one from before
[04:39] <testing> the guest
[04:39] <testing> My "fix"
[04:39] <cfhowlett> testing, restate your issue.  we don't remember
[04:39] <testing> I was in a login loop
[04:40] <cfhowlett> testing, ah yes. remembering now ...
[04:41] <testing> as I was saying, my "fix" was just to make a new account (this one) and just scrapping the old one
[04:41] <cfhowlett> testing, nicely done.  I take it everything works properly now?
[04:42] <testing> It seems to, I logged in and out a few times before this and its fine!
[04:44] <cfhowlett> testing, hats off to you, Sir.
[04:45] <testing> Thank you good sir.
[04:45] <cfhowlett> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/WeSaluteYou.gif
[17:36] <damianos> While I'm not new to linux, I am a total newb when it comes to linux audio production. I just installed 12.10 into vmware fusion to play around with it. My sound is all messed up. It's a slow distorted stutter and it's system wide. Any tips on configuring 12.10 in a VMware VM?
[17:37] <holstein> damianos: i wouldnt expect to use JACK in vm
[17:37] <holstein> i would just run the live CD
[17:37] <damianos> That's a bummer. I can't save any work that way
[17:38] <holstein> damianos: ?
[17:38] <holstein> damianos: you save it where ever you like
[17:38] <holstein> damianos: you can literally save it to the same exact place you are saving now, if you like
[17:39] <holstein> damianos: the "bummer" is, you cant expect JACK to work well on virtual hardware
[17:39] <holstein> you can elaborate as to what your needs are though, ,since JACK might be overkill for your purposes
[17:39] <holstein> could be that you could just add the pacakges to the current distro you are using
[17:41] <damianos> I'm on a mac and use linux VMs for a web development server. I unfortunately don't have a dedicated box for this right now
[17:42] <holstein> damianos: you can run the live CD on the intel mac
[17:42] <holstein> damianos: you can run JACK and some of the other software on OSX natively
[17:42] <holstein> damianos: its not a limiation, nor an issue with JACK.. its more a limitation of the virtual hardware
[17:42] <damianos> Oh I know
[17:43] <damianos> VMware has been a pain
[17:43] <holstein> damianos: i personally dont suggest using jack with internal sound cards, much less fake ones
[17:43] <damianos> mouse issues too
[17:43] <damianos> ok then
[17:43] <holstein> damianos: well, virtualization in general.. though, i usually use virtualbox
[17:43] <holstein> damianos: but,, the live CD should give you a decent experience to test with
[17:43] <damianos> ok so generally VM's are a no go when it comes to ALSA and JACK
[17:44] <damianos> actually, I have an old Pentium D board sitting on a shelf. Maybe I can recycle some parts and put it on that
[17:45] <holstein> damianos: jack.. just jack
[17:45] <holstein> damianos: i woud try it.. you might not get great performance, but you could see what is capable
[17:46] <holstein> OR, reboot the mac holding down the C key and try it there.. saving the work to a USB stick, or the hard drive
[17:46] <holstein> sibelius is "self contained" though, and doesnt "require" any more midi/audio applications
[17:47] <holstein> ^^ sorry.. wrong window
[17:47] <damianos> lol I figured
[17:47] <damianos> actually low powered is good for me
[17:48] <holstein> might be for you.. but for content creation, you might want more
[17:48] <holstein> i use jack on a netbook
[17:48] <holstein> i have realistic expectations
[17:48] <holstein> i set the latency high, and i dont edit on it
[17:48] <damianos> I'm looking to put together an appliance for guitar processing
[17:48] <holstein> just track... in the field.. since its small
[17:48] <holstein> damianos: you'll want a nice card
[17:48] <holstein> damianos: low latency
[17:48] <damianos> I have an maudio firewire solo kicking around
[17:48] <holstein> damianos: you wont do that with *any* internal sounc card
[17:49] <holstein> sound*
[17:49] <holstein> damianos: i use a firewire devcie
[17:49] <holstein> device*
[17:49] <holstein> you'll want to set something up and start tweaking
[17:49] <holstein>  you'll want to hang in #opensourcemusicans
[17:49] <holstein> having done what you are trying to do.. i dont do it
[17:49] <damianos> yes but I can still test my Pd patches and just have Pd generate the tones. That would at least eliminate the need for round trip
[17:50] <holstein> damianos: nah,.. its about the time when you hit the string, and the sound card "proecesses" it, and spits it out
[17:51] <holstein> doing *no* precessing at all in the box. it still has to pull it in analog, and convert it to digital, and convert it back, and spit it out
[17:51] <damianos> well here is my plan. Have a pd patch with fiddle to process incoming signal and send the midi through jack to trigger linux sampler
[17:51] <holstein> damianos: sure
[17:51] <holstein> damianos: and you *can*
[17:51] <holstein> damianos: you'll need a nice card, and a fast machine
[17:51] <damianos> even for just 4 channels?
[17:52] <holstein> damianos: set it up and test.. with the live CD
[17:52] <holstein> damianos: i use 8 at a time typically
[17:53] <damianos> are there maudio firewire drivers around? Last time I checked a couple of years ago there was nothing except for the delta series
[17:54] <holstein> damianos: i typically read and search, and trust nothing i read or search
[17:54] <holstein> i plug it in, and test with a live CD
[17:55] <holstein> i save reciepts
[17:55] <holstein> damianos: i would literally get it out.. fire up the live CD.. open up JACK and seclect the firewire driver and see
[17:55] <holstein> also, the chipset.. the agere chipsets the macs usually use are awful
[17:55] <holstein> i have texas instruments chipsets that i have researched and tested
[17:56] <holstein> http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list
[17:56] <holstein> a kernel update, or JACK.. or ffado, and the device that worked could break
[17:56] <holstein> or, become fully functional
[17:57] <holstein> i typically test with an AVLinux live CD and the ubuntustudio liveCD's... i like to see different alsa/JACK/ffado/kernel versions running on that particual hardware
[17:58] <damianos> well it says on the site you linked that my firewire device "reported to work"
[17:59] <holstein> damianos: cool.. thats typically a good sign
[17:59] <damianos> I think I'll slap that motherboard into a box in here and check
[17:59] <holstein> that means you can usually make it work
[17:59] <holstein> damianos: the issue is.. if you plug it in and it doesnt work... who can do anything about it?
[17:59] <holstein> maudio wont
[17:59] <damianos> there is also a creative audigy2zs in there in the PCI slot
[17:59] <holstein> ffado cant
[17:59] <holstein> we cant either.. so, i usualy just fire it up and try firsthand
[17:59] <damianos> I don't care about that
[18:00] <holstein> damianos: the creative is more for playback.. not content creation
[18:00] <holstein> damianos: i put it onpar with an internal sound card.. but it wont hurt to try it
[18:00] <damianos> in the long run I'll be using one of these… http://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/usbstreamer
[18:00] <holstein> i dont trust usb hardware wither
[18:00] <holstein> either*
[18:01] <damianos> What I'd like to use the creative card for is the midi interface and the firewire port
[18:01] <holstein> some use them for exactly what you are trying though... with pd.. over in #opensourcemusicians
[18:32] <_raven_> hi
[18:32] <_raven_> do you know about any commandline mastering tool which is able to receive and transmit streams from/to an icecast server?
[22:21] <Guest63673>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
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[23:40] <holstein> al4nc4ds: i think that would be appropriate in an offtopic channel
[23:48] <al4nc4ds> damn command. /ame
[23:48] <holstein> al4nc4ds: ?
[23:49]  * al4nc4ds help
[23:49] <holstein> al4nc4ds: i suppose what im getting at is, please refrain from linking images in the channel.. or irrelevant items...
[23:50] <al4nc4ds> ok no worries