[23:36] slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1622593/ [23:38] whee :) [23:39] stgraber: how many extra processes do we have running now, that weren't before? (thinking of memory footprint) [23:39] it's init --user + upstart-event-bridge, and that's it? [23:39] slangasek: should be just two, yeah [23:39] * slangasek nods [23:39] do we expect gnome-session to go away in the near term? [23:40] that'd be more a question for desktop I guess, but I don't think it's going to disappear this cycle and I have my doubt about the next one too [23:44] stgraber: because you don't think we'll have the subprocesses transitioned over, or because you think we still need other features of gnome-session? [23:45] well, I'm not completely sure of what gnome-session actually does. It does seem to spawn a ton of stuff, so we'll basically need to look at every single thing it spawns and translate that into an upstart job [23:46] yeah [23:46] but that's fairly mechanical work [23:46] I'm more concerned about things like the dbus services gnome-session provides [23:47] I'm not sure it actually provides any dbus service itself, it spawns a ton of stuff that do though [23:48] I guess I can do a quick test with just spawning gnome-settings-daemon and compiz myself, see what I miss if I skip gnome-session entirely [23:53] slangasek: with just those two, I'm missing nautilus (no background) and I'm missing all the indicators (not sure what's actually spawning those usually...) [23:54] the rest looks good though ;)