[00:00] lemme look for an english version [00:00] seems that boot-repair is recommended :D [00:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows === epzil0n is now known as Guest70400 [00:00] yeah [00:01] this time ill just do it under legacy [00:01] legacy is more compatible wit hunder lvie-cd's like tails etc [00:01] so i want it like yours [00:01] im thinking of deleting the recovery partitions and just manually installing w8 [00:01] i do not like pre-installed win-versions [00:01] lots of garbage in there [00:01] exactly [00:02] so i zapped the recovery [00:02] i got technet so i can get a nice clean ISO [00:58] I want to download Xubuntu and dual boot it with my current laptop that has Vista on it [00:59] but i downloaded it and put the file onto a CD and it wont boot from the CD even though i made it Boot from CD first [01:02] xubuntu808: how did you burn it to the CD. It must be burnt as an .iso (burn iso or cd image) not as a data file (burn data files). [01:02] so do i extract the file and just put the .iso file on the CD? [01:04] xubuntu808: download a .iso file. burn the .iso file to a cd. the cd burning program should have options to burn an image (.iso) or data files. select an image or .iso. [01:05] i got the file straight from xubuntu.org. Do i just search for the iso online? [01:07] Actually, i just found it. [01:08] xubuntu808: what file? you should download a file whos name is xubuntu-12.04.1-xxx.iso or xubuntu-12.10-xxx.iso (where xxx is the variant and arcitecture you want) [01:20] ok thanks [01:23] xubuntu808: f y i, by architecture i mean 32 or 64 bit. 32bit=i386, 64bit=amd64, you can always use 32bit (i386) if you are unsure. [01:25] xubuntu808: by variant i mean desktop or ... well, the other variants. (desktop is what most people want.) [03:40] hola [03:41] Is anyone available to help a linux newb? [03:42] Is anyone available to help me out. should be easy [03:43] !ask [03:43] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [03:43] roger_: most people just start out with what their problem is ;) [03:44] oh my bad.. just being friendly [03:44] kk [03:44] it's just how support channels work [03:47] I've got xubuntu with apache2 for a simple LAN web server. I can connect using the IP just fine. Was just wondering what I'd be getting into if I wanted to setup a local domain name (ie. //mywebpage/") instead of using the IP.. I searched a little and saw bind9, but not sure if i'm barking up the wrong tree there [03:48] depends on how complicated you want to make it, if you want it to be discoverable by every system on your lan you can set up bind9 as a dns server and have all systems query that for dns [03:48] if you just need to get to it from one computer, you can just edit /etc/hosts and put some info in there [03:49] I have some test vms on my lan that I don't have in DNS, so I put this in /etc/hosts on my desktop: [03:49] 192.168.42.68 vm1 [03:49] 192.168.42.70 vm2 [03:49] etc [03:49] so I can just acces them by the name "vm1" etc [03:49] yeah from all comps.. so with bind9 i'd be setting up a "zone"? [03:50] yeah, probably a lan zone [03:51] probably want to read a bind9 how-to though :) [03:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html is good [03:51] ok.. great! so if I go slashing my way around installing/setting up bind9 and its goes all wonky, if I remove bind9 that should take me back to my current state? [03:52] well, there are two parts to running a dns server - actually running it on a server and then telling your local computer to use it as the dns server [03:52] /etc/resolv.conf will typically show you your current dns server [03:52] I run my own, so on my network: nameserver 192.168.42.1 [03:53] so you'd have to uninstall bind9, and tell your desktop to stop using it for dns [03:53] ok.. sounds good. [03:54] thank you very much.. [03:54] you're welcome :) good luck [03:55] oh wait [03:56] ahh.. nevermind.. was thinking I could just do etc/hosts instead. But that would only work for one computer [04:00] honestly setting up a dns server is a bit of work, on my wifi lan I still just copy /etc/hosts entries to a few computers [04:01] yeah, I'm think so now too [04:02] ok so.. just to be clear.. you are editing a file on remote comps, and not the server? [04:03] roger_: Alternatively, your router may have an interface where you can name your connected computers. If the computers already use the DNS of the router, you'll have nothing else to change. [04:07] can somebody help me, when watching dvd videos on xubuntu my vidoes are yellow and all blurry, what do I need to do? [04:24] Bind9 vs. PowerDNS vs. DNSMASQ? [05:17] hi does any one know how to make the title bar (including close, maximize, etc) button bigger? i tried resizing the .xmp file in the theme folder but it does nothinig === Sadin_ is now known as Sadin [05:49] thank you to the guy who helped me with DNS [05:50] was alot of work but got it going [06:52] hello [06:53] I have a problem with thunar. the network icon on the left side is not there. [06:53] The network is fine, I am able to access it through ctrl+l [06:54] but, the actual network icon has disappeared [06:54] regarding recent changes to my computer settings, i have typed "mv /home/riz/.gtkrc-2.0 /home/riz/.gtkrc-2.0.BAK" in order to resolve an earlier problem regarding the inability to customize my desktop [06:56] BillyZane: I think this is a known bug, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1057610 [06:56] Ubuntu bug 1057610 in thunar (Ubuntu) "trash and network icons don't show up occasionally" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:57] laite: thank you, i'll give it a look [06:57] do you know how to fix the bug? [06:58] unfortunately not :/ [06:58] how annoying [06:58] you know... [06:59] i'm a very recent convert from windows [06:59] and... since moving to ubuntu, i just can't go back to windows [06:59] but one thing I have to say about windows is, it works [07:00] i've encountered so many computer problems the last few weeks, that it's easily more than i've had in years combined [07:00] it seems like the status of no compter problems is an unstable point [07:00] random things just happen for no reason at all. I have no idea how to fix it either [07:00] the more I have used linux the more i´ve seen how windows does not work [07:01] i think that's true for when you're trying to do something [07:01] but if you're trying to do nothing, windows works really well [07:03] BillyZane: For this problem, it seems that I got network icon (never missed it in the first place, heh) back by writing to console 'killall Thunar' (without quotations), and then 'thunar --daemon &' [07:04] *console = terminal emulator [07:04] strange [07:04] ooo interesting [07:04] what happens next? [07:04] i just run thunar again [07:04] profit [07:04] does it work? [07:06] oh, let me try [07:06] one sec [07:07] it did :) [07:07] great! [07:07] u r genius [07:07] what did i just do? [07:07] i think kill all killed all running thunar apps [07:08] but what about thunar -- daemon & [07:08] what is the daemon, what is the & ? [07:09] deamon is linux term for 'background process' (much simplified, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing) if you're really interested) [07:09] the & at the end tells terminal that we want to 'jump out' of that process, so it really goes to background instead of closing when we exit terminal [07:10] ummm [07:10] it *might* also work without --daemon, but it was suggested in bug report I linked so I went with that :) [07:11] my cat's breath smells like cat food [07:11] attaboy =D [07:12] so... [07:12] if we close thunar, it doesn't really close, it just goes to backgorund [07:12] is that right/ [07:13] correct, you can see that by yourself in terminal, try 'pgrep thunar -l' [07:13] why would that correct the problem? didn't kill all close thunar, which in doing so, cause the problem to be fixed? why then would preventing the closing of thunar prevent the problem from happening [07:14] it seems that *restarting* thunar was the key here, perhaps something goes internally wrong at some point due to a bug in non-daemon instance [07:14] daing [07:14] i guess i'll have to accept it [07:15] as I said, it *might* work also without --daemon [07:15] it's no worries, i learned a new command :D [07:15] also, pgrep [07:15] what's that? [07:15] everytime I type man command, i just TL;DR [07:15] i wish there was a simple explanation for things [07:16] pgrep allows you to search for active processes by their name (or part of it, quite handy), -l in the end shows correct name on output [07:16] too much to learn! [07:16] =D [07:16] argh, i can't remember every command! [07:17] I'm quite recent convert (~2 years ago), and look at me now =D [07:17] you'll get there :) [07:17] wt.f, why call it pgrep , i guess it's... p grep, process grep, process list! yay! [07:17] indeed! [07:17] also, welcome to linux :) [07:17] well that is actually really logical [07:18] thank you [07:18] it's been a very long time coming [07:18] been using windows for... maybe 15 years now [07:19] it's time to ditch it [07:19] it makes me want to shed a small tear saying that [07:19] but i only have like... well... almost no reason to stay on it now [07:19] except for itunes [07:19] As time goes by you´ll find many reasons to stay in linux :) [07:19] ipad/iphone .. i won't buy another [07:20] oh i have so many reasons to [07:20] i'm amazed by linux all the time [07:20] i wanted to use it because i'm taking a C and java class [07:20] me too :D, been using it on and off for 10 years =) [07:21] i presume you also use xfce then [07:21] is that the best gui? [07:21] i think so, so far [07:21] well I like xfce [07:21] I also use awesome [07:23] ohh [07:23] i hear awesome is the l33t user's environment [07:24] well... yes. It takes some time to get used to [07:24] cinnamon also looks good [07:25] i don't think i'm quite ready for awesome yet [07:27] you should use the desktop you like. [07:27] for sure dude [07:28] you know what blows my mind? [07:28] It is the freedom of choice we have here :) [07:28] what? [07:28] CTRL+Alt+F8 [07:28] =) [07:29] only thing is, it's not doing "it" , i just get a blinking _ [07:29] but i should get an alternative log in right? [07:30] you can start new x session, which goes there [07:30] cant remember how [07:30] you know what CTRL+ALT+F8 is like? it's when they realized the solar system was just a small part of the galaxy [07:30] typing stuff on that screen doesn't do anything, it's bizarre [08:25] hi [08:25] i have a problem [08:25] ping is not working [08:25] yet i can surf the net [08:25] any ideas on how to fix this? [08:27] what are you trying to ping? [08:29] torax, google.com [08:29] torax, pinging the router works [08:35] gmg85: try pinging 173.194.44.50 [08:36] that works [08:38] could be problem with dns server [08:39] torax, is it possible for such a problem to affect a single user? [08:41] torax, [08:42] torax, turned out to be a problem in my dns server settings [08:43] torax, it was working before...i had the wrong ip for one of the dns servers so i guess when the system finally used that ip that's when things went wrong [08:45] :) === emma is now known as em [11:08] when my computer suspends, it isn't locking [11:08] i have the checkbox checked that tells xfce to lock the screen on suspend in the power settings === xenox is now known as moruk === bluesabre_ is now known as bluesabre === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [17:47] hi.. there's somebody? [17:47] !ask [17:47] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [17:48] since the last update of the system amule don't start? some one can help with that problem? [17:57] xubuntu186: sure.. lemme just google "amule" and see what i come up with [18:02] xubuntu186: i would try removing/renaming the config file in your /home directory.. [18:06] xubuntu186: if you have issues with that, and easy way to test is to just make another test user account and try it [18:08] i remove amule, then delete all files in ./amule but not remove Incoming and Temp directories, then install again. Amule start and i don't lose any download [18:08] thank you!!! [18:09] xubuntu186: cheers! [18:45] bizarre evening [18:46] been trying to re-install GRUB forot 2 days (not a really flink komputer guy) [18:46] **for about [18:46] while saving my wife's data from her ubuntu partition [18:47] hopefully the xubuntu install will re-install the bootloader so it doesn't only startup in W*ndows [18:47] and I got the answer back from the immigration dept...my residency case has been rejected [18:48] xubuntu185: grub is just one bootloader option... theres GAG, plop... [18:48] !grub [18:48] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [18:48] ^^ there are explanations about how to recover grub using a live CD.. thats what i would do [18:49] grub was on the thumb drive, and I accidentaly installed the xubuntu liveCD on this key...thanks bot [18:50] xubuntu185: i asked the bot to link that for you [18:50] takk, holstein [18:50] xubuntu185: grub will be where you install it [18:51] xubuntu185: if you dont have the machine set to boot the USB stick, it will boot the hard drive... which has whatever bootloader it has [20:01] Hey guys. I'm trying to boot the iso directly using EasyBCD, which works fine (it boots) but I get the terminal and this error after the loading screen instead of the installation: "(initramfs) Unable To Find A Medium Containing A Live File System" [20:02] GermainZ: What kind of a terminal? [20:02] The linux shell, with busybox's version at the top. [20:03] Well that's not good at all... [20:03] Weird. [20:03] GermainZ: the live filestystem will be on the live iso.. i would say its not "working fine".. can you just boot a live CD/USB? [20:03] I've never heard of anyone trying to boot an ISO image using EasyBCD... [20:03] holstein, not before a few days. [20:04] Ive been logged out of my desktop and dont know the user name or pass [20:04] SonikkuAmerica, a few people suggested it for Ubuntu online. Not to me, tho. [20:04] xubuntu307: there is a recovery console [20:04] ? [20:04] GermainZ: ? ubuntu online? [20:04] im definitely new [20:04] holstein, if I'm not mistaken, yes. [20:05] holstein: Ubuntu, online. Not online Ubuntu. [20:05] xubuntu307: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword [20:05] I think he meants the ubuntu online forums? [20:05] thank you [20:05] GermainZ: can you just boot a CD or USB? [20:05] holstein, not before a few days. [20:05] GermainZ: ? [20:06] None available ATM and can't get hold of any till a few days [20:06] GermainZ: i dont understand what that means.. you mean, that functionality is broken? [20:06] Some people suggested changing my BIOS from IDE to AHCI, but it's already set to AHCI. [20:07] GermainZ: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124617/easy-bcd-help-dual-boot-win7-and-ubuntu-11-10-add-new-entry-for-ubuntu might be relevant [20:08] holstein, it's booting fine for me. [20:08] GermainZ: cool.. then enjoy! [20:08] GermainZ: i thought you were experiencing an error [20:08] Well, booting as in "no purple screen". [20:08] It is giving me an error. [20:09] GermainZ: ok.. then it is *not* booting fine [20:09] GermainZ: can you use a USB stick to just boot the iso? [20:09] Well, it's not booting at all for that guy, so it is booting for me :P [20:09] I only have my android right now, my USB is back home. [20:10] I could probably try using the microSD, but I'd rather not do that if there's anything simpler. [20:10] GermainZ: i would either look into what easybcd expects you to do to boot ubuntu, or just wait... [20:11] There are just two settings for booting an ISO with EasyBCD and I've tried them both. [20:11] I guess I'll just wait and see if it happens with a live cd [20:12] GermainZ: i have not tried easybcd.. i use a live CD or usb made with unetbootin often [20:12] GermainZ: you could have a bad iso.. [20:12] Installed fine on virtual box. [20:13] GermainZ: then, i would say, the issue is easybcd with ubuntu.. and i am not familiar with easybcd.. you could explore the support avenues specific to easybcd [20:14] Alright, thanks for the help :) [20:19] If I understand correctly, I can use unetbootin to directly boot into the live environment from my hard disk? That's what I was doing with EasyBCD. I'll try it out using unetbootin. [20:34] Just to know which procedure to take ... can xubuntu load itself to RAM? [20:35] If you have enough and use the toram boot option, yes. [20:35] I have 8gb available. Thanks :) [20:35] Heh, I've done it with 2. [20:50] Quick update: it boots fine using unetbootin [20:50] If that's what it's called, not sure :) [20:50] Thanks for the suggestion! [20:56] I can't figure out how to split my windows partition tho... [20:57] Use GParted. [20:58] Can I do that from the installation? [21:00] Installation? You'd normally do it before, I'd think. You can't resize the active partition. [21:02] Mhm.. I didn't see the load to ram option [21:03] You won't see it, in the section where it asks you if you want to Try Xubuntu without installing or install Xubuntu, you hit F6 then type it in. [21:03] Ah, thank you. [21:04] Should have checked that in the docs first [21:09] I can't access that screen using unetbootin... I can either try directly try or install directly. Can I do it from the terminal? [21:12] GermainZ|Phone: Hit e on Try. [21:19] Unit193, should I add a new line or edit an existing one? [21:19] GermainZ|Phone: Edit. [21:19] Which line should I edit? "boot"? [21:19] You should see "quiet splash" add a space and toram [21:20] "quiet splash toram" [21:20] Ah yes, but it's not alone [21:21] "kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/xubuntu.seed boot=Casper quiet splash --" [21:21] Should I still add toram to it after the --? [21:22] Yeah, add before. [21:23] Thanks, it's loading now. Any way to check if it's indeed loaded, other than seeing if I can partition? [21:24] Desktop will pull up after it copies over to the RAM. [21:33] Still loading. [21:37] Is it normal for it to take more than 15 minutes? [21:39] Is it at the Xubuntu plymouth screen? (Screen with Xubuntu, and a scroller going back and forth.) [21:39] Correct, with blue background. [21:41] Oh, it just loaded. I suppose I'm to impatient :) [21:43] That's a long time to wait, the one with 2G didn't have that issue but it'd also depend on the processor and flash drive speed. [21:43] Well I still can't split /dev/sda2 [21:44] Why is that? [21:45] How do you normally do it? [21:45] The minus button erases it, and "New partition table" erases all my partitions. [21:45] I use gparted, have to shrink the one partition first. [21:47] It's a separate live cd? Can I use it directly from the live xubuntu? [21:48] It's a tool in settings manager. [21:49] Oh, thanks. I searched for it using application finder but I suppose it doesn't look for system toola [21:49] Tools* [21:49] I dunno, I don't use it. :P [21:50] Mhm, can't unmount partition because it's busy.. [21:50] Swap in use? [21:51] free shows 0 for swap, so I suppose not [21:55] GermainZ|Phone: you can see what have files opened on the device with: lsof /dev/sdXX (e.g. lsof /dev/sda2) (possibly with sudo before) === emma is now known as em [21:56] I'm trying that but I'm getting an error [21:57] What error? Could maybe check `mount` too. [21:57] GermainZ|Phone: swapon -s will show if a swap area is used (even if 0 bytes are swapped, a swap may be defined) [21:57] Can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/xubuntu/gvfs [21:57] No swap area is used [22:11] Oh well.. How do I check toram is in effect? [22:13] This should make typing faster ... Logged in from the live installation. [22:14] Tried sudo swapoff -a to make sure, still can't unmount /cdrom... which is sda2 [22:16] sudo umount /cdrom -l [22:16] That did it :) [22:28] so does xubuntu not support UEFI Secure boot? [22:28] but ubuntu does? [22:45] dydzEz2, If that is true, you can just install Ubuntu, Install XFCE (4.10, instead of 4.8, so upgrade :) ) and then uninstall Unity.... [22:49] god im thinkiing of just installing w8 old school, i really dont care for uefi and secureboot [22:54] uefi and secureboot are a conspiracy from M$ to keep people in windows... I say fight 'em as long as possible ;) [22:58] How long does resizing a ~700gb partition take? It's been running for the last hour ... [22:59] depends on how full it was, if it was freshly formatted, that would be a little long, if it was pretty full, you might be better than half way there... maybe. [23:00] Around half of it is empty. And half full, obviously :P [23:04] did you defrag before you did the partitiion? [23:04] I use Diskeeper, it had a very low fragmentation level. [23:05] Like, barely one little red bar. [23:05] ah.. k... its probably going as fast as it can then [23:06] Any way at all to predict when it'll finish? It's getting late and I'm afraid the power might go off for a while ... and the battery probably won't last long with this kind of usage. [23:09] really no idea... [23:12] Thanks anyway :)