=== zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === valorie is now known as 77CAAL7QO === jono is now known as Guest51 === emma is now known as em === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine [05:59] apachelogger, ping [06:45] correct me if i wrong but inside system settings -> interface style i should have oxygen style available ? [07:15] i can't run systemsettings [07:15] got this message in terminal: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. [07:15] any idea what can be wrong ? [07:21] ::workspace-bugs:: [1119097] plasmoidviewer binary missing from package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119097 (by juancarlospaco) [07:23] mmm [07:34] what would be the command to complatly reinstall kde* stuff basicly full desktop [07:34] as there is no oxygen style for windows, systemsettings do not work [07:37] if i try to remove kubuntu-desktop shouldnt it remove also kde related packages ? === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [08:23] ::workspace-bugs:: [1119097] plasmoidviewer binary missing from package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119097 (by juancarlospaco) [08:33] soee: completely removing kde should work by removing libkdecore5 [08:33] why does kubotu keep echo'ing that bug [08:35] soee: what release are you on? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:36] btw netrunner people report issues with kmahjongg [08:36] on quantal [08:36] any reports like that in Kubuntu? [08:36] yofel, quantal, i had to remove .config and .kde to make oxygen them work here on my work machine [08:36] wth [08:36] but i cant sun systemsettings on my user account [08:36] shadeslayer: not heard of any, what sort of issue? [08:37] http://forums.netrunner-os.com/showthread.php?tid=736&pid=1058#pid1058 [08:37] is what I was linked to [08:37] I'm still downloading the ISO [08:37] and then have to upgrade @_@ [08:37] shadeslayer: haven't heard of any issues with kmahjongg. But soee is the 2nd person I know that has oxygen issue [08:37] s [08:37] I hate release days [08:37] broken configs ftw [08:38] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2013-February/023921.html [08:38] maybe that's what's causing issues? [08:39] fun [08:39] Adityab: ^ Potentially cause of your bug [08:42] Riddell: I /think/ it might be because something was not published and the user ran apt-get update a bit too soon [08:43] shadeslayer: that forum doesn't mention kmahjongg [08:47] shadeslayer: they're installing from kubuntu-ppa/backports onto quantal presumably? [08:48] the kubuntu-ppa/backports repo is enabled for Netrunner by default afaik [08:51] yeah, so we need to be careful to double check what goes in there, netrunner users are not the sort who will take kindly to being used as guinea pigs [08:51] true, nor will Kubuntu users [08:51] but I'm not sure what can be changed, it was checked and the probably was probably just archive scew during copying [08:51] the problem [08:51] yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well [08:52] I just need to confirm [08:54] Hey Riddell [08:54] morning smartboyhw [08:55] Riddell, good now I will copy the calligra backport from the experimental PPA to backports PPA [08:55] The build finished 11 min ago [08:56] damn the amd64 build didn't start (LOL) [08:56] At least i386 worked [08:56] smartboyhw: yeah need to wait for amd64 [08:56] smartboyhw: also did you install it and run it? [08:57] Riddell, you mean in Raring or Precise ? [08:57] smartboyhw: well either but you're working on precise just now [08:59] powerpc is sitll holding back the universe in raring :( [08:59] Riddell, what? Even calligra in raring was completed.... [09:00] And moved to raring-release [09:00] smartboyhw: just because it compiles doesn't mean it installs and just cos it installs doesn't mean it runs [09:00] that all needs tested [09:01] Riddell, I know. Will be testing it [09:01] Well at least installing works [09:02] Yes it works!!!! [09:03] what does? [09:04] works and flow [09:04] smartboyhw: you've got a precise install to run it on? [09:04] Riddell, testing on raring now. Will get a precise install to test [09:05] smartboyhw: oh cools [09:05] smartboyhw: you can install to a chroot and run it from there with a little magic [09:05] you can also run it from an ec2 over vnc [09:05] Riddell, at the same time I could test a 12.04.2 live image! [09:06] oh yes you could [09:06] that would be most handy [09:06] That's my plan [09:17] signing off:P [09:26] welcome back smartboyhw :) [09:26] Riddell, yeah. Sorry I had to reboot. Now resuming the download of the precise imag [09:26] *image [09:27] Phew, the 4-day calligra work is going to an end:P [09:27] until their next release :) [09:28] Riddell, yeah (LOL0( [09:30] Phew it flew fast , 93% download [09:31] Riddell: get the powerpc build rescored [09:31] or maybe you can rescore it yourself? [09:31] shadeslayer: I don't think I can do that [09:31] I'm not elite enough [09:31] :D [09:31] #launchpad then [09:32] but [09:32] hm sec [09:32] 1.268 is done [09:32] for powerpc as well [09:32] what is 1.268? [09:33] wasn't kubuntu-meta holding back everything? [09:33] and now it's kde-workspace [09:34] yeah I fixed kubuntu-meta [09:34] and I fixed kde-workspace except it's still held back on powerpc [09:34] right [09:34] but there's a few more that are waiting for rebuilds on !powerpc [09:36] hmm there's a new calligra-transitional from debian that needs investigated [09:37] calligra-transitional!? [09:39] yeah [09:39] a bunch of dummy packages [09:39] need to work out if we already have those or what [09:41] Riddell, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra-transitional/+index [09:42] yes, that's the one [09:42] it should probably just be deleted [09:42] hmm [09:42] from what I recall [09:42] we have koffice transitional packages in calligra itself [09:43] or atleast we had them [09:43] or sth [09:43] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-veromix needs removal and blacklisting as well [09:43] shadeslayer, I think we *had( them [09:43] It doesn't exist now [09:43] shadeslayer: can you file a bug for that and ping me to process? [09:43] according to apachelogger, it's useless, and takes up memory and does not work on raring [09:44] Riddell: for Veromix? [09:44] or for Calligra? [09:44] shadeslayer: plasma-widget-veromix [09:44] roger [09:45] oh wait [09:45] there's a 0.18.3 [09:45] maybe that works [09:45] shadeslayer, want me to package? [09:46] smartboyhw: check if it can be sync'd ( seems likely ) and then check if it works in raring [09:46] with python3 [09:46] shadeslayer, good [09:47] seems like it might just work with Python 3 [09:48] yeah [09:49] shadeslayer, actually it IS synced already [09:49] errr [09:49] oh right [09:49] wrong pacakge [09:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/veromix [09:50] it's called veromix [09:50] right [09:50] doesn't work though [09:53] wot [09:53] libnepomukquery-perl_4.10.0-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb: deb contents timestamp check failed: E:read, still have 1297 to read but none left [09:54] mm, that doesn't sound good [09:58] okay, kmajhong-data is problematic [09:58] super hard to copy this error over VNC [09:59] grrr [09:59] launch a brower in the vnc session and pastebin it? [10:00] yeah [10:02] shadeslayer: kdegames-mahjongg-data ? [10:03] no, just kmahjongg-data [10:04] N: Unable to locate package kmahjongg-data [10:04] Is the job of a Kubuntu Tester to find bugs on unreleased versions of Kubuntu, or is there more to the job? [10:04] http://paste.kde.org/667298/ [10:05] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kmahjongg-data_4%3a4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): [10:05] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kmahjongg/layouts/Vi.desktop', which is also in package kmahjongg 4:4.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 [10:05] dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) [10:05] !info kmahjongg-data quantal [10:05] Package kmahjongg-data does not exist in quantal [10:05] O_O [10:05] hum, so new in 4.10 [10:05] and overlapping files [10:05] damn, why didn't we spot this? [10:06] probably because none of us had kmajhongg installed? [10:07] I did test upgrades of kde-full but maybe not on quantal or something [10:10] Riddell: are you fixing it or should I? [10:11] or maybe one of our new ninjas ;) [10:13] I'm still diagnosing it and I need to have a shower cos I can't fix packages while smelly [10:13] shadeslayer: so go ahead else I'll get it when I'm clean [10:18] Riddell: youll never be as clean as when you went to sauna :D [10:23] Riddell: seems like kmajhongg-data just needs a breaks/replaces on kmajhongg [10:26] shadeslayer: got time for a quick PM? [10:27] sure [10:29] what a busy day :@ [10:30] shadeslayer: user-manager will have to wait till tomorrow it appears [10:30] apachelogger: sure [10:30] well .. not sure when the file got moved [10:30] so I guess it'll have to be versioned as 4.10-0ubuntu1 [10:39] kubotu: shadeslayer ++ [10:39] :D [10:47] shadeslayer: yep I confirm that's an issue, are you onto it or shall I look at it? [10:48] Riddell: almost done actually, feel free to fix for Quantal/Precise [10:48] I'm uploading for raring [10:48] jussi: there's nothing like standing naked in a nordic forest to get you clean [10:48] shadeslayer: just a replace/breaks old kmahjongg ? [10:48] yep [10:48] ok I'll do the backports [10:48] Riddell: :D its even better when you can go jump in the snow for a bit... [10:49] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/667322/ [10:49] shadeslayer: hmm [10:50] shadeslayer: 4:4.10-0ubuntu2 should be 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu2 no? [10:50] @_@ [10:50] dat 0 [10:50] will fix [10:50] * Riddell learns a new indian swear word [10:51] :P [10:51] clearly I've not had enough coffee [10:51] http://paste.kde.org/667328/ [10:51] better? [10:53] maybe also change that ubuntu3 [10:54] I would yes [10:55] yeah, done, and wth, kmahjongg already built on amd64 and i386 [10:55] that was fast [11:08] uploaded to precise and quantal [11:08] thx :) [11:12] * shadeslayer is sad that our upgrade process still sucks [11:13] * shadeslayer needs to write a script that automagically tests upgrades [11:13] automate _ALL_ the things [11:15] Hey all [11:15] There seems to be bug with the Desktop Effects Settings utility in 13.04, if I want to report a bug should this be to the systemsetting package or the kwin package? [11:18] hi lordievader [11:18] lordievader: yeah that's kwin [11:18] lordievader: you asked about testing too? [11:18] no it's not - we don't have bugs [11:18] Riddell: Thank you. [11:18] lordievader: ok it it's kwin it's your imagination :) [11:19] :-D [11:19] lordievader: we need testers for new candidate kubuntu release images, but also for new and updated packages [11:20] lordievader: want to be added to the !testers call? [11:20] kde bug 314662 [11:20] lordievader: we'll have double image testing next week, alpha 2 and 12.04.2 [11:20] KDE bug 314662 in general "Oxygen Style Missing After Upgrade" [Minor,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314662 [11:20] Riddell: Yes, sounds nice. [11:20] yofel: this upgrade has been fun [11:20] !testers [11:20] Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan [11:20] shadeslayer: "upgrade" ? [11:20] hehe [11:20] ubottu: no testers is help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan [11:21] ubottu: no testers is help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader [11:21] hehehe [11:21] :D [11:21] The kwin bug I seem to have is that keyboard shortcuts made in the Desktop Effects settings are not saved. [11:21] ok ,ok :) [11:21] Riddell: clearly ubottu is rebelling [11:21] enoufg [11:21] shadeslayer: he needs to be told of his place [11:21] Riddell, 13.04 images ? [11:22] soee: not yet but next week [11:22] alpha 2 [11:22] so you calling testers for? :) [11:23] oxygen style isn't missing here , just upgraded [11:24] BluesKaj: please comment on kde bug 314662 [11:24] KDE bug 314662 in general "Oxygen Style Missing After Upgrade" [Minor,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314662 [11:29] ::workspace-bugs:: [1119312] Desktop Effects keyboard shortcuts not saved @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119312 (by lordievader) [11:30] soee: just to add lordievader to the call for now [11:31] interrupted my morning coffee [11:31] oh now now this is no welcome to give to lordievader [11:31] ok ,reported my findings at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314662 [11:31] KDE bug 314662 in general "Oxygen Style Missing After Upgrade" [Minor,Unconfirmed] [11:32] !testers | Riddell [11:32] Riddell: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [11:32] BluesKaj: did you upgrade from 4.9.5 ? [11:33] no shadeslayer , not directly , upgraded from 4.9.98 [11:33] BluesKaj: you might want to mention that :) [11:33] jussi: now you disturbed everyone's morning coffee [11:33] because there seem to be issues when upgrading from 4.9.5 to 4.10 [11:33] too late already posted it [11:34] Riddell: oh well, I probably should have sent it to your PM [11:34] BluesKaj: post another comment? :P [11:37] Have to say the new default wallpaper looks really sweet! [11:39] hey, there's your test images! [11:39] !testers [11:39] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [11:39] ah wallpaper, i would like to see nice looking plymounth or whatever it is called before i die :) [11:42] ok posted my experience with upgrading to 4.10 [11:42] soee: lol, never happens [11:42] altho i have a differnt bug [11:43] make one [11:43] BluesKaj: posted where? [11:43] haven't posted it yet , Riddell ..been trying to solve it [11:44] Riddell: it might be nice to use something like "!testers | please test XXXXXXX" removing the need to either read back or ask what needs testing [11:45] user management crashes with the orphaned modules error/popup dialog [11:45] !testers | please test Precise 12.04.2 images [11:45] please test Precise 12.04.2 images: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [11:45] I don't think anyone will be having their morning coffee today [11:45] well , I'm at home so , definitely am [11:45] Riddell: I would hope most of them have had it... or if not, there is a scene similar to the coffee scenes in "top gun" :P [11:46] it ias already 12.45 how can i think about morning coffee ;) anyway i dont drink coffee [11:47] it's 6;47 AM , here , I shoul d go back to bed [11:48] Maybe a stupid question, but where can I get the Precise 12.04.2 image? [11:49] lordievader: iso.qa.ubuntu.com should have the links [11:49] lordievader: and don't worry about asking stupid questions, they're usually not stupid [11:49] Riddell: Thank you :) [11:50] Riddell: The idea is to test the live cd right? Or also an install of the live-cd? [11:51] lordievader: yep live and install [11:51] various ways of installing too [11:51] the test cases should be listed on iso.qa.ubuntu.com [11:52] Riddell: Ah yes, I saw after I asked you. [11:52] hm, talking about userconfig [11:53] ScottK: I get http://paste.kde.org/667400 even with python 3.3 in raring. PyKDE bug? [11:54] the broken part is the return value of ki18n [11:54] or it's ki18n crashing. As "aboutdata.addAuthor(ki18n("Sebastian Kügler".encode('UTF-8')), ki18n("Developer"), "sebas@kde.org", "http://vizZzion.org")" works fine [11:56] you'd have thought python 3 would put an end to that nonsense [11:57] well. As long as you use python string it works fine. But removing the ki18n call gives this: http://paste.kde.org/667406 [11:58] so this is really mostly pykde's fault [11:59] ok , my bug has already been reported 67 times , no need for further duplication . bug #247830 [11:59] bug 247830 in buglog-data "[testbug] auto-created by python-launchpad-bugs" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247830 [12:00] kde bug 247830 [12:00] KDE bug 247830 in general "SystemSettings crash when opening a module which requires authorization [KCModule::setNeedsAuthorization]" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247830 [12:00] hm. I don't get a crash. But that the module doesn't work is known [12:01] if someone wants to try the quick-and-dirty py3 port of userconfig it's here: lp:~yofel/+junk/userconfig-kde4-python3 [12:02] it doesn't quite work though [12:04] yofel, my situation has the use rmanagement dialog error about orphaned KCM modules and userconfig/userconfig.py [12:05] BluesKaj: yeah, that's about what you should see [12:05] it's trying to call the python3 version of userconfig - which doesn't exist [12:05] so no point in reporting it further [12:07] BluesKaj: what should work is simply running "kdesudo python /usr/share/kde4/apps/userconfig/userconfig.py" in krunner. Ignore the crash on exit. (I hope that doesn't affect the functionality) [12:10] yofel, no difference , same error on user management [12:10] hm [12:11] not that i need it atm , guess i could always add a user or group in the terminal [12:17] actually I'm quite happy with the way 13.04 is running so far [12:28] yay [12:28] after removing QVariant's lp:~yofel/+junk/userconfig-kde4-python3 is kinda usable [12:38] well, not really, but it starts at least === pascal is now known as Guest14715 [12:40] Plasmate 1.0-beta is out. Will this be packaged for Kubuntu Backports/beta? [12:40] beta sounds reasonable [12:41] I asked about a plasmate package some weeks ago and was told as long as there is no official release it would not be packaged. W00t now it finally happened :-) [12:42] http://terietor.gr/2013/02/08/plasmate-1-0-beta1-is-out/ [12:42] yes [12:42] Guest14715: great [12:42] indeed [12:42] Guest14715: want to learn packaging? :) [12:43] Riddell: Thanks, but no. I do a lot of bug-reports though :-) [12:44] Guest14715: good excuse, we'll let you off with that :) [12:44] :-) === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_jackyalcine [13:09] agateau: you are a wizard! Seriously, I cant thank you enough for this awesomeness that is gwenview [13:10] jussi: hey, thanks :) [13:11] agateau: I use it lots :) [13:11] agateau: one thing that would be awesome, is if someone integrated gwenview and skanlite together [13:11] jussi: there is a kipi plugin for skanlite, though I don't use it [13:12] oh? wow, Ill have to try it [13:13] Riddell, OK.... [13:13] Will download an 12.04.2 amd64 ISO [13:17] Just found something interesting: The release date for Ubuntu 12.04.2 is on valentine's day!!!?!?!? [13:20] so we have to make it something people will love [13:20] lol [13:22] hehe [13:23] agateau: where would one find that plugin? seems Im not having any on this install... [13:23] you need the kipi-plugins package [13:23] then it should be in "plugins > import" [13:24] installing now, thanks [13:25] Riddell, does that mean we have to test 13.04 Alpha 1 and 12.04.2 LTS at the same period? [13:25] smartboyhw: yep [13:25] Grrrr [13:28] agateau: looks great, thanks! [14:01] Riddell, I am testing the amd64 image [14:01] smartboyhw: groovy [14:01] Riddell, groovy? [14:01] very [14:01] It might be a good chance to finally test if calligra works on Precise [14:01] yeah good idea [14:02] Riddell: I'm testing the 12.04.2 amd64 image too, saw a bug, checking now if I can reproduce it. [14:06] Yes, reproduced. The installer crashed on the manual partitioning if the installer is started from the "Try Kubuntu" option. [14:07] backtrace plz [14:08] erk [14:08] lordievader: file a bug please and attach /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/* [14:09] Riddell: Will do. [14:10] Riddell: On bugs.kde.org or on launchpad? [14:11] lordievader, launchpad [14:11] lordievader: on launchpad against ubiquity [14:17] Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu says "Download the Kubuntu installer to create your own installation CD." [14:18] Oh :) [14:19] oh you're here as well :D [14:19] sorry am about to run off for the afternoon [14:20] For few years now :P [14:20] haha :D [14:20] :D [14:20] I've never seen you say a single sentence here :P [14:20] Lol [14:21] silent finnish type... :P [14:22] * jussi huigs skfin [14:22] the most dangerous type [14:22] perhaps [14:23] * skfin doesn't know about "huiging" but hugs jussi [14:23] jussi: 0.6 isn't that far away [14:23] end of March [14:23] pesh [14:23] thats ages :P? [14:24] you clearly live in an alternate universe [14:25] why yes, yes I do! :P === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [14:57] hm, the last qt4 upload has multiarch issues it seems [15:02] ah no, i386 is just completely lagging behind [15:03] s/lagging behind/stuck in NEW/ [15:03] yofel meant: "ah no, i386 is just completely stuck in NEW" === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk [15:48] user-manager should be ready to be packaged [15:48] still it does not create/remove users but edit works well :) [15:48] create/delete should come shortly [15:48] afiestas: apachelogger packaged it [15:48] but forgot to push it [15:48] he said he'll do it tomorrow [15:49] shadeslayer: it is in kde:user-manager now [15:49] afiestas: awesome [15:49] the import will need to be fixed though === mck182|afk is now known as mck182 [15:56] huzzah, more stuff I can upload [16:02] lol for a second their i read raring as raging. [16:02] oxygen-fonts to kubuntu is raging [16:05] LOL [16:09] turns out you also read in as is [16:32] Since I updated to raring Wednesday, my touchpad is behaving as per the default config instead f my own and the "Touchpad" kcm module won't load. Anyone else has this kind of issues? [16:32] synaptiks is broken [16:33] Evpok: you want to run synaptiks from krunner or a terminal [16:33] and then keep it running [16:33] let me rephrase part of that sentence, the synaptiks kcm accessed via systemsettings is broken [16:34] Oh, sweet, thanks you [16:39] something else: the keyboard layout loading is behaving strangely. I use a custom /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr. It used to be loaded a startup before raring. Now at startup, the default fr symbol file is used instead. When I `setxkbmap fr -variant oss`, my custom file comes back, but it blocks the keyboard layout applet in the system tray. [16:41] hmm ... possibly #ubuntu-x would know more [16:46]