[00:13] Any reason why on my multi monitor setup new windows open on the wrong monitor? [00:14] hmm, active screen follows mouse seems to be a solution === frostbyte is now known as tuomas [00:34] Question - I used to have a hot corner screen edge where I would see all open windows. When I go to set it up, it's grayed out. Why would it be grayed out? [00:41] #blender [01:01] Hi. Anyone here who use custom xkb symbols? [01:13] my screen edges aren';t working. They're selectable, but hot corner doesn't work unless I choose something super basic like show desktop. Any idea hwy? It works on my laptop running the exact same thing - Kubuntu 12.04.1 w/ KDE 4.10 [01:25] anything? [01:25] no? [01:39] i have two laptops. one is mine, one is my friends. i need to transfer my home folder onto her laptop so i can do a complete wipe of my disk and then reinstall ms and kubuntu. i do not have have a wifi router. i have 1 lan connection to the internet. both laptops have wifi, and a lan port and i have a crossover cable. can someone please refer me to a page, or site, or something that can help me transfer the folders? [01:42] ciao [01:55] I just downloaded Ultimate Edition 3.5 is skype offered on it and it if it is where can i locate it [02:05] roasted: /home/roasted/.kde [02:05] you unpacked that and it crashed? [02:05] oh [02:05] wait [02:05] there are some symlinks in .kde iirc [02:06] I think you are intereseted in directories that are not symbolic links there [02:06] generally moving .kde SHOULD work [02:06] at least it does here [02:09] 4.10 users, can you please confirm these two bugs? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314640 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308340 [02:09] KDE bug 314640 in kcm_screensaver "Unable to select color for background in Screen Locker settings" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:09] KDE bug 308340 in general "Text from messages left on unlock screen is not saved in knotes" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === Babbu is now known as Bab === Bab is now known as Babbu === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === daniel_ is now known as MyDadIsVeryRich [02:25] hello === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ [02:25] my dad have a farm with pigs and is very rich [02:25] pigs are the best === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ [02:29] What is the right "Product" option for reporting bugs against plasma-widgets-addons ? [02:29] on bugs.kde.org === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Honoo is now known as FlameReaper === Senjai is now known as Guest45550 === rapidsp is now known as Guest1043 === msx is now known as Guest98825 === aperson is now known as Guest2595 === dale is now known as luckyphuq === emma is now known as em === nosrepa is now known as aperson === Guest45550 is now known as Senjai === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === home is now known as steveoh === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === adrian is now known as Guest57146 === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:33] Hi. I have a bit of an issue with keyboard layouts: I use a customized (fr) xkb symbols file, and since I upgraded to Raring it is not loaded at startup anymore. I have to `setxkbmap fr -variant oss` it manually, and then the keyboard layout applet in the systray won't let me change the layout. [09:36] moorning.. [09:36] Mamarok: hey hey.. [09:37] hey all [09:38] I've ran into a snag with my Kubuntu. After two logins, it just seems to freeze on login. All I see a black screen and a mouse to play with :) [09:41] chakkimatti, did you installed any extra display drivers [09:42] hi [09:43] soee: no === Guest71471 is now known as DaZ [09:48] chakkimatti, what gpu ? [09:49] soee: dunno really :) it's a built-in gpu on an old HP Compaq Dual Core [09:49] I'm using multiple display monitors [10:08] nah [10:10] Trying to remedy my sstartup/login crash/freeze issue on Kubuntuu Quassel - help? [10:12] chakkimatti: maybe #quassel can advise better [10:12] sigh [10:15] how can i print from console? need to analyse a print problem i have.. [10:18] kde 4.10 is absolutely awesome ! [10:18] its just that bity better than 4.9.x [10:19] there is basically no reason for stickinig with 4.9.x [10:20] oh ! [10:20] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10 [10:20] better than 4.9.x how ? [10:21] more shiny, faster ( and the usual slew of new bugs for you to find ) [10:21] the workflow is better, the speed seems slightly better, the screen locker is better, the grouping functions are better... [10:22] no bugs yet (used for 1.5 days home/work now) [10:22] because they're hard to reproduce :P [10:22] nice .. I relly hope I could find KDE4.10 module for slax [10:22] really* [10:22] kde bug 313145 [10:22] KDE bug 313145 in general "Edges and "hiden panels" stop working when System Activity is shown" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313145 [10:22] actually - there was one minor one... (old desktop icon cannot be moved unless you use the bar - ie i can;t just move an old icon by dragging the main icon) [10:23] hmmm - bug not effecting me here ... [10:24] did you set the oxygen border to "No Border" [10:24] no - using plastik [10:24] dunno if you can reproduce on Plastik [10:25] I really wish the default theme was changed from air, after chooseing Limux it looks so so so much nicer... [10:25] 'NewLimix' [10:26] I suggest anyone who hasn't already check out that plasma theme... [10:27] *looks it up* [10:27] Kubuntu's default theme is not pretty.... After changing it to 'NewLimux' it even impressed a Mac user. [10:30] theme is - http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=155536 [10:33] yossarianuk: you mean KDE's default theme is not pretty [10:34] shadeslayer: sort of - however I always notice that Arch linux kde seem prettier (out the box) than kubuntus [10:34] and I think arch is pretty much vinilla [10:37] Kubuntu is pretty vanila as well! [10:38] that's one of the hotly contested points :D [10:38] that we ship vanila stuff [10:38] Kubuntu 13.04 looks nice right out of the box :) [10:39] cool - really liking kubuntu now - I used to use it in the kde 3.x days - when 4.0 came out it was unusable.... [10:39] ungtil about 4.2 [10:40] I have convinced everyone in the office to use Kubuntu in the last year.... [10:41] Unity is not actually possible to work with (its o.k for a home system.) [10:48] Can someone help me to change the panel so it's not transparent? I'm having a hard time seeing what programs are open. [10:49] AceKing - changing theme would do it. [10:49] air netbook for example. === DaZ- is now known as DaZ === DaZ is now known as Guest53556 [10:50] yossarianuk: Thank you! that did it [10:52] (although its transparant) [10:52] ignore last comment.. [10:53] hm [10:53] shouldn't happen, the default theme isn't transperent per se [10:58] hi there [10:58] hey yofel , are you there ? [10:59] wing_: what's up? [10:59] i solved a problem got after upgrading kde to 4.10 version [11:00] its related to oxygen style missing after updating process [11:00] To anyone having this issue: delete ~/.config/Trolltech.conf , (credits to archlinux forum :p ) [11:01] heh [11:01] that just sucks [11:01] wing_: can you report a bug on bugs.kde.org? [11:02] yes of course , but please gimme steps to that :) [11:06] wing_: go to bugs.kde.org, make an account, and follow the wizard to report a bug [11:06] wing_: do ask if you get stuck at all [11:06] ok thank you , im going to do it now :) [11:15] hey Riddel, where to post the steps to solve the bug ? [11:15] Hey all [11:15] wing_: in the bug description [11:15] ok thank you :) [11:17] there are alot of fields in there, one of them is called "Steps to reproduce" [11:18] yeah but its just a step to reproduce it : just upgrade from 4.9.5 to 4.10 [11:18] and solution is even simpler just delete a conf file , already filled and sent the report [11:19] thanks all , see ya [11:19] the solution is not simple ;) [11:19] wing_: can you give me the bug number? [11:19] yeah [11:19] 314662 [11:19] thx [11:20] let me know your opinion , is it enough detailed description? [11:20] wing_: looks fine to me [11:20] thank you, gtg see ya all [11:26] hey, anyone else having an issue with kmix not starting after login? [11:26] i'm on KDE 4.10 [11:27] sigh, can you check if you can reproduce the issue with a new user? [11:28] okay, let me check [11:47] hey. I'm running Kubuntu on an old HP Compaq, Intel Dual core, ATI RV515 Radeon X1300 setup and after login Xorg freezes [11:48] black screen and a mouse [11:49] !nomodeset | chakkimatti [11:49] chakkimatti: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [11:53] ubottu: how do i add that to my boot? [11:53] chakkimatti: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:53] haha :D [11:53] good one === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === marco is now known as Guest58013 === Jacky_ is now known as zz_jackyalcine [13:28] does muon handle pinning at all ? === root is now known as Guest33622 === Guest33622 is now known as ilikeapricots [13:32] jussi: the package manger has ->right click-> Lock at current version [13:33] which is guess is a dpkg hold [13:33] yofel: perfect! thanks very much [13:33] (Ive shadeslayer's modified auth handler for ktp and I want to keep it :) :D ) [13:34] heh === ubuntu is now known as Guest54263 [13:55] sigh, the will it start or not game with krunner and dbus based things has resumed; everything works every other boot [14:07] anyone know good working radio shoutcast radio player? [14:16] is there a way to have the im message open when a new message come in? I look online and did not find anything [14:17] help [14:20] elx, just ask your question [14:26] whats the standard java on kubuntu 12.10? === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk [14:30] !info openjdk-7-jre [14:30] openjdk-7-jre (source: openjdk-7): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 7u9-2.3.4-0ubuntu1.12.10.1 (quantal), package size 220 kB, installed size 682 kB [14:30] noaXess: ^ [14:30] !info openjdk-6-jre | There's also this [14:30] There's also this: openjdk-6-jre (source: openjdk-6): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component universe, is extra. Version 6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.10.1 (quantal), package size 227 kB, installed size 689 kB [14:31] shadeslayer: ok.. needed to switch to openjdk-6, cause Synology DSM (Disk Station Management) won't work with 7 [14:31] okay :) [14:31] don't know why it won't work with 7.. [14:33] shadeslayer: how to switch java versions? there is anything with update alternatives.. [14:33] don't remember [14:33] hmm [14:33] probably [14:33] I don't know enough about it [14:33] !java [14:33] To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [14:34] ah.. ok.. thnks [14:34] sudo update-alternatives --config java [14:35] noaXess: if you need sun java check http://www.webupd8.org/ they have a ppa [14:35] sorry wrong person :) [14:36] Captain_Proton: why not.. maybe i aso test with sun java ;) === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [14:37] some thing just do not work right with openjdk [14:39] anyone know if there a way to have im pop up? [14:39] old toaster popup thing [14:41] LOL the sound in 4.10 remind me of bioshock :D [14:43] ok..s trange... i need icedtea6-plugin with openjdk-7 to get it work in browser.. LOL. [14:43] friday LOL [14:43] seams that the icedtea-7-plugin is buggy [14:43] or other stuff [15:39] we [16:18] hi guys! i'am already installed libreoffice 4.0.0 and i want know how i can install this theme http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Helium+One+For+Libreoffice?content=145950 [16:43] hallo? [16:44] hi [16:44] eigentlich mein erster Versuch mit irc. [16:45] !de [16:45] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [17:20] the fresh out of the box kubuntu 12.10 has an error in the .bashrc file http://bpaste.net/show/2UaNnPaS9mFbtM6BFGO3/ line 105 [17:28] kde 4.10 rocks === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE === Guest53556 is now known as nieDaZ === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [18:23] miebster_atwork: submit a ticket on launchpad then [18:56] So what's the best method for installing Kubuntu + Plasma Active on a Nexus 7, just to use the Ubuntu installer and then install the "kubuntu-active" metapackage? === GabMus_it is now known as GabMus_ [19:20] hello [19:20] i have a big problem with kde 4.10 on kubuntu 12.04 [19:21] after a kubuntu clean installation i decided to add kubuntu backports to install kde 4.10, but it started behaving strangely after i installed the nvidia experimental drivers [19:22] now when i login into a kde session i just see a black screen and the cursor [19:22] i am now writing from an openbox desktop [19:23] GabMus_: will the first thing is delete Xorg.conf in /etc/X11 < I think that will get your display back [19:24] or rename [19:24] ok ill try [19:24] GabMus_: then you can downgrade the Nvidia drive and try that [19:26] ok done [19:26] now what? try to login into kde session or reboot? [19:27] ok ill try to login... later === heath is now known as ybit === ybit is now known as heath [19:28] Most likely is you don't have one of these three things already installed before trying to install the nvidia driver: build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms === GabMus is now known as GabMus_ [19:29] hello [19:29] again [19:29] still not working [19:29] GabMus_: you will need to reboot [19:29] mh [19:30] or restart x [19:30] ok, ill try [19:30] to restart system [19:30] later [19:32] still not working [19:33] I always had that problem with ATI Nvidia always seem to work ok [19:33] still black.. hhmmm [19:33] im using experimental drivers [19:34] GabMus_: Most likely is you don't have one of these three things already installed before trying to install the nvidia driver: build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms [19:34] GabMus_: uninstall them and reinstall stable then recreate the xorg.conf < also see what genii-around said [19:35] wut [19:35] please speak in an easier way [19:35] im not anglophone [19:36] GabMus_: try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop [19:37] er... ok, i'll try [19:37] this is my last hope [19:38] (not last but im getting nervous) [19:38] GabMus_: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms && sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-experimental ( or nvidia-experimental-310 or -304 depending on which one you tried previously to install) [19:38] I find it annoying that nvidia doesn't pull in dkms [19:38] genii-around: the fact he has a login screen suggests that x and the graphics drivers are working [19:39] sounds like plasma-desktop is not working to me [19:39] exactly [19:39] james147: Yes, he removed his xorg.conf at Captain_Proton's suggestion, so it would probably be going to the next driver like vesa or such . [19:39] GabMus_: does alt+f2 launch krunner? [19:40] dunno, im running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop [19:40] so ill try later [19:40] g2g [19:40] later [19:40] ( seeing as there would be no line now saying Driver "nvidia" [19:40] genii-around: I thought the nvidia driver was used even without a xorg.conf these days? === GabMus_ is now known as GabMus_afk [19:40] genii-around: I am not use anything other then intel for awhile, but I that jockey pull that in? [19:41] Captain_Proton: I have found it doesn't, unfortunately [19:41] I think it use the open source one "can think of the name now" [19:42] * Nouveau [19:44] From what I read it does well if you are not running games but for compiz and kwin it should work just fine === GabMus_afk is now known as GabMus [19:44] ok === GabMus is now known as GabMus_ [19:44] ill try loggin in now [19:44] later [19:46] hello, I managed to break my kubuntu 12.10 GUI by installing kde 4.10 [19:46] I have to say 4.10 is great it fix alot of the crash I use to get [19:46] ok, im on kde, i used alt+f2 and apprunner launched [19:46] I use "Air" Theme and since upgrading to KDE 4.10 I no longer have blur - it seems [19:46] but still no desktop and no panels [19:46] How can I make sure I have blur? [19:47] kwin seems to work fine, im afraid plasma is not working [19:47] system settings> Desktop effects> all effects [19:48] Captain_Proton: "verwischen"? [19:48] guys? [19:48] so, whenever I boot into kubuntu I get a white screen [19:48] I can access tty through ctrl+alt+f1 [19:48] any clues on how I should proceed? [19:49] ecks i suggest you to install openbox to have at least a desktop [19:49] GabMus_: funny thing is, networking is broken too [19:49] GabMus_: can you launch dolphin [19:49] Captain_Proton: well that one doesn't have any effect, it's already activated - maybe kwin recently thinks that my nvidia driver is not capable while it is? [19:49] Captain_Proton: yes [19:49] i can launch everything [19:50] please pm me, since i will get afk soon [19:50] and want to monitor the conversation [19:50] any help on fixing networking through commandline? :) [19:50] or join #help-GabMus_ [19:50] GabMus_: well if you do not have any custom stuff just delete .kde in you home folder that should get you back to stock [19:50] I'll login in again - someKDE stuff just updated [19:50] i can also use the terminal for that [19:50] rm -r .kde [19:51] GabMus_: yup :) [19:51] done [19:51] reloggin later [19:53] still nothing [19:53] okay, blur works again - I just logged in again - probably fixed by some patches I just got [19:53] GabMus_: Wow [19:54] what? [19:54] is it so strange? [19:54] a friend of mine has the same problem [19:54] ill try with old nvidia driver... maybe it works [19:55] this is freaking me out [19:56] meh [19:56] g2g again [19:56] please keep writing on the other channel [19:56] #help-GabMus_ [19:56] GabMus_: I dont think that the problem. You can try. I would check and see system settings> Desktop effects> advance and see what type compsizing type you are using [19:57] really, now ill go [19:57] later === GabMus_ is now known as GabMus_away [20:10] /nick GabMus [20:10] im back [20:10] aaand [20:10] i have to reboot [20:26] I'm having the problem that my workspace switcher is unaligned every time I log in - I have to remove it and add it again every time I log in. Anyone experiencing the same with KDE 4.10? [20:30] thechef: system settings> Startup and shutdown > Session Management > On Login chosse (Start with and emapty session) [20:30] thechef: try that [20:34] Captain_Proton: thanks - will try [20:36] Captain_Proton: didn't help.. [20:36] I have to go now [20:36] ciao [20:47] what's happening homeboys? :) === kronos is now known as Guest66181 [21:22] salve [21:22] c'è qualcuno online che può aiutarmi? [22:06] great... installing kde 4.10 completely broke the GUI of kubuntu 12.10 :< [22:21] it is in itself the GUI === paolo is now known as faLUCE === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === DaZ- is now known as DaZ === DaZ is now known as Guest34984 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen === emma is now known as em === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [23:27] So, ah... KDE 4.10 is pretty close to ugly [23:29] Walzmy_: that is a matter of opinion :) but it is flexible enough to make it look how ever you want, some configurations out there are just dam sexy :) [23:30] james147: well, I've been looking for two days and I can't make my taskbar so I can see anything, it and several other plasmoids are clear so the text is unreadable [23:30] james147: and all my plasmoids now have this ugly white box around them [23:30] Walzmy_: thats not the default ^^ [23:31] Walzmy_: it should look like this:http://img.netupd8.com/kde-4.10-wallpaper_fulldesk.png.png [23:32] Walzmy_: What happens if you create a new user? does it also look bad on them? [23:32] james147: emm, lemme see === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [23:36] james147: looks right with new user [23:36] Walzmy_: I suggest you try resetting plasma-desktops settings by renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* [23:37] then restart plasma-desktop (kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 1; plasma-desktop) or logout and back in [23:37] james147: ok [23:38] james147: thanks, I gotta go take care of kids === richard is now known as Guest80020 [23:44] ciao === kronos is now known as Guest92515 [23:44] c'è qualcuno on che potrebbe aiutarmi? === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_