| _helios_ | Hey is Raring Ringtail going to be better than 12.10? | 02:56 |
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| skp1 | yes. | 02:56 |
| _helios_ | I'm sitting with 12.1064bit and it's pretty stable. | 02:56 |
| _helios_ | I'm downloading the daily build now gonna take a look at it in Virtual Box. | 02:57 |
| IdleOne | it will be 1.94 times better | 03:00 |
| _helios_ | Cool I'll switch to it once I make sure it's gonna be as stable as 12.10 lol | 03:01 |
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| magn3ts | So, say I just installed raring on a Macbook Air... How do I ensure I don't melt my laptop? | 07:12 |
| magn3ts | 12.10 required manual fan control and the ppa isnt available... | 07:12 |
| bazhang | wait for the release, and contact the PPA maintainer about getting a raring version, I suppose | 07:14 |
| magn3ts | Can I test if it will work automatically without just revving it up? | 07:15 |
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| spyzer | hey everyone, i am being affected by this bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pvr-omap4/+bug/1102045 | 07:21 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1102045 in pvr-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Pandaboard ES: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/omap_dri.so missing -> Only software rendering" [Critical,Confirmed] | 07:21 |
| spyzer | so may anyone please help me as in if there is some quick way for me to revert back to a more stable ubuntu version | 07:22 |
| spyzer | ? | 07:22 |
| spyzer | as in what is the quickest path for me to use the driver | 07:22 |
| spyzer | for its capabilities | 07:22 |
| bazhang | spyzer, revert back to 12.10 you mean? | 07:23 |
| spyzer | bazhang, so this bug occurss in 12.10 basically so if i revert to 12.04 that can solve my problem i believe. But are there some huge performance gains between 12.04 and 12.10 | 07:28 |
| spyzer | for OMAP? | 07:28 |
| bazhang | no idea on OMAP performance gains | 07:29 |
| bazhang | ONe way to revert spyzer :: full reinstall | 07:29 |
| spyzer | hmm | 07:33 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:15 |
| SuperMatt | hullo hullo | 12:01 |
| SuperMatt | I've just had an issue with byobu in raring... /usr/sbin/lightdm-session: 59: /usr/bin/byobu-launch: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then") | 12:04 |
| SuperMatt | that was stopping me from logging in to unity/gnome-shell etc | 12:04 |
| Fuzzles | what do you guys think to ubuntu 13.04? | 14:05 |
| Christos | I have a strange issue. Grub2 is not showed at all on boot with ubuntu 13.04. To tell the truth i see nothing other than a pink screen before my desktop. (no splash screen at all). | 14:25 |
| jpds | Christos: Tried holding down shift after the BIOS? | 14:28 |
| Christos | Let me give that a try ;) | 14:28 |
| Christos | I will report back in a sec | 14:28 |
| christos | Thank you for the tip with Shift it works. Now i have an other issue. I get this error while trying to install latest drivers | 14:39 |
| christos | fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers. /lib/modules/3.8.0-5-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system. | 14:39 |
| christos | Latest kernel headers are installed. But version.h is missing | 14:39 |
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| kroson | Hello, is raring ringtail going to come with a new version of xserver? | 16:14 |
| smallfoot- | I have a broken dependency on python3-pyatspi2, anyone else have that too? | 16:48 |
| smallfoot- | nvm, i think synaptic fixed that | 16:48 |
| christos | Hello i would like some help with the installation of radeon proprietary drivers (fglrx) 13.2. The installer complains about missing kernel headers (which i have installed) and also for missing version.h (which is missing and i have no idea why.) | 17:05 |
| ironhalik | did you instell the propr package for your kernel? | 17:06 |
| christos | i believe that everything is correct | 17:06 |
| ironhalik | linux-headers-3.8.0-5-generic? | 17:07 |
| christos | linux-headers-3.8.0-5-generic Yes | 17:07 |
| christos | i am using kernel 3.8.0-5-generic (of course). | 17:07 |
| ironhalik | I had similiar problem with virtualbox-dkms, and installed the wrong package | 17:08 |
| christos | :) Well thats why it seems strange to me and this problem exists on every linux distro | 17:08 |
| christos | i previously had 3.8.0-4-generic. (When i update my kernel the installer almost always complains about missing kernel headers. | 17:09 |
| ironhalik | are you sure you're using the latest kernel? As it turns out, I'm booting into rc5, according to uname -a | 17:10 |
| ironhalik | :> | 17:10 |
| christos | that is the output of uname -a Linux chris-GA-VM900M 3.8.0-5-generic #10-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 18:00:50 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 17:11 |
| christos | i am searching google for alot of time with no results | 17:11 |
| christos | My main problems are gaming and that ubuntu fails to boot many times with pre-installed drivers. | 17:12 |
| christos | ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-5-generic/include/generated/uapi/linux /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-5-generic/include/linux/version.h | 17:19 |
| christos | shouldn't that work :O)? | 17:20 |
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| magn3ts | Any tips on getting UEFI booting working on a Macbook Air? | 17:33 |
| magn3ts | It boots off the NON +mac.iso fine but the installer doesn't seem to setup grub properly. | 17:33 |
| magn3ts | I'm hopeful that this can be done without using BootCamp/BIOS boot but I'm a bit out of my depth. | 17:34 |
| christos | I know that this is offtopic... But why would you like to install ubuntu on a mac XD? | 17:37 |
| magn3ts | Because I don't like OS X. | 17:41 |
| magn3ts | Ubuntu 13.04 works spectacularly on it. Aside from the non EFI boot. | 17:41 |
| magn3ts | And the 3.8 latest RC kernel broke Thunderbolt hotplugging but I seem to be the only person on the whole internet that even noticed that thunderbolt pci support was added.... so ;P | 17:42 |
| magn3ts | The MBA is just fantastic hardware. If the Carbon X1 from Thinkpad adds a better screen I'll consider switching, but until then it's better than almost anything else I've seen or used. | 17:42 |
| christos | Well as i have heard mac has more games and is more user-friendly. Also arent apple's laptops and phones WAY TOO EXPENSIVE because of Ios and for many things with i infront of their name :)? | 17:43 |
| magn3ts | The MBA has a bit of a premium yes, but honestly, it's worth it when I don't ruin my computer every year and a half from tripping on the power cable and pulling it off the table. | 17:43 |
| magn3ts | I personally don't think OS X is that much more user friendly. As a developer it pisses me off constantly--- not respecting my env vars, having an outdated, signed version of GDB, no proper package manager, no Wayland, etc | 17:44 |
| magn3ts | anyway, I gotta run. I hope to debug EFI and Thunderbolt hotplug when I get back if anyone is interested in throwing me any debug pointers! | 17:44 |
| christos | Well if you are a dev then you can probably should use linux.. | 17:44 |
| christos | Well i know that this isnt the right place to ask but :)... You said you are a developer. So that means you went at college (or whatever) and studied this thing? Is it what you do for living? | 17:49 |
| christos | Because i really have a dilemma If i should choose that as a carrier :P | 17:49 |
| ironhalik | if you like IT stuff, then sure, there's cash in it | 17:55 |
| christos | IT? | 17:55 |
| ironhalik | iformation technology | 17:56 |
| ironhalik | just don't go into it, if you _don't_ like it - there were a lot of people who went into CS because they heard money is good | 17:56 |
| ironhalik | then there was 80% failure rate at programming 101 | 17:57 |
| ironhalik | but if you're running unstable ubuntu by choice, then you're probably ahead of those 80% ;> | 17:58 |
| christos | :) Lol thanks ;) | 17:58 |
| ironhalik | also, calculus | 17:58 |
| christos | Well thanks for the info. | 17:59 |
| christos | Computers are what i like the most.(and english included.) | 17:59 |
| christos | So i believe on of these is what i am going to do in future, | 18:00 |
| christos | one* | 18:00 |
| ironhalik | remember about the math. There's ton of math, calculus, algebra, probability etc | 18:01 |
| christos | Well if i understood correctly probability and calculus (log?) is what i am studing this year at school | 18:02 |
| christos | (Calculus is log and ln and such?) | 18:02 |
| ironhalik | yup | 18:02 |
| ironhalik | and more, much more ;> | 18:02 |
| christos | These are easy i did them the year before :P | 18:02 |
| christos | In greece you study at 16 years old :P | 18:03 |
| christos | you study these* | 18:03 |
| ironhalik | well then, good luck :> | 18:05 |
| christos | Thank you ;)... | 18:05 |
| blaamann | I tried split view in Nautilus. Does not work :-( | 19:06 |
| magn3ts | Also, yeah, I went to school for programming but I taught myself most of it. Ironically I'm going to be working for MS in a few months time. | 19:17 |
| AlecTaylor | hi | 19:21 |
| AlecTaylor | Should we expect many changes between the kernel freeze tomorrow and the second alpha on the 14th? | 19:23 |
| * AlecTaylor wants to upgrade from 12.04 | 19:24 | |
| hggdh | AlecTaylor: they are cummulative -- if you have Raring installed and are doing dist-upgrades, there is no difference. If you download today's image and dist-upgrade, you will have whatever packages there will be next week | 19:27 |
| AlecTaylor | hggdh: But are we talking (estimate if you will) a large download for the alpha 2? | 19:28 |
| AlecTaylor | (doing the upgrade between now and one week from now) | 19:29 |
| hggdh | AlecTaylor: there *might* be some updates, volume unknown (I dist-upgrade every day; the last few days we have had a lot of updates) | 19:30 |
| hggdh | AlecTaylor: remember this is in flux... but, by now, *most* of the updates for next week should already be in. At least as far as KDE is concerned, we just moved to 4.10. | 19:31 |
| hggdh | of course, barring a major bug in some basic dependency, requiring an ABI bump & rebuild of all dependencies... | 19:32 |
| AlecTaylor | hggdh: kk, will wait 3-4 days then upgrade | 20:06 |
| AlecTaylor | Thanks | 20:06 |
| hggdh | welcome | 20:07 |
| magn3ts__ | Looks like cinnamon-settings is broken. | 21:06 |
| magn3ts__ | /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gobject/constants.py:24: Warning: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion `g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed | 21:06 |
| magn3ts__ | import gobject._gobject | 21:06 |
| magn3ts__ | No module named Image | 21:06 |
| magn3ts__ | cinnamon needs to have a dependency on python-imagining | 21:08 |
| magn3ts__ | Is that a known issue? | 21:08 |
| magn3ts__ | Hm, appears it already does... | 21:08 |
| magn3ts__ | never mind, looks like PIL is broke, found the bug report. | 21:10 |
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| magn3ts | bleck, 3.8 rc7 breaks graphics on my MBA (intel hd4000) | 22:50 |
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